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Speaker 1: right back on the air again. Good afternoon, everybody, John Murphy,

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Speaker 1: Steve Tasker. It is one bill slide presented by a

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Speaker 1: lot of health company from one Bill's Drive, Orchard Park,

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Speaker 1: NFL Welcome. Thanks for joining us, John Murphy. Here Steve

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Speaker 1: you know, that's a long time with a guy. We're

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Speaker 1: gonna talk about the Steelers, all these issues with the

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Speaker 1: d d Kik Kabalas. She's coming up from the NFL

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Speaker 1: Network at one o'clock today, Jason Lakhan at two, I

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Speaker 1: want to talk a lot about quarterbacks into particular, the

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Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills quarterback. Today. This is a Twitter poll topic

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Speaker 1: and a show topic that we have previewed extensively over

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Speaker 1: the last week or so. I'm gonna give Steve credit

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Speaker 1: for this one, especially if it doesn't work out then

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Speaker 1: well especially it's already working out come on, already working

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Speaker 1: out simple question. We've discovered those are the simplest show topics, simpler,

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Speaker 1: the better, the best show topics, the simple ones. And

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Speaker 1: here it is is Josh Allen the guy. Let us

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Speaker 1: sink in it's profound. Is Josh Allen the guy for

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Speaker 1: the Buffalo Bills. That's our Twitter poll, that's our topic today.

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Speaker 1: You can weigh in on the telephone line eight h

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Speaker 1: three h five fifty toll free one eight eight eight

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Speaker 1: five fifty two five fifty. You can vote on our

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Speaker 1: Twitter poll. We'll give you those early results that are

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Speaker 1: just a thumbs up tweets, not just a thumbs up

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Speaker 1: thumbs down. Let me let you explain it, because you've

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Speaker 1: you're sort of the father of this Twitter pole topic

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Speaker 1: today today's show topic. What do you mean is Josh

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Speaker 1: Allen the guy? Because you know that's what people are

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Speaker 1: going to think about. What does it mean when we

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Speaker 1: say he is the guy. Well, here's the thing, and

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Speaker 1: obviously it's early in his career, and we saw some

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Speaker 1: growth in him as a rookie, and he've got people

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Speaker 1: around the country and we do it every day. We

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Speaker 1: kind of take a poll about who's talking about the

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Speaker 1: players in the league, particularly the young ones coming into

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Speaker 1: this next year. And Josh Allen, Baker Mayfield, Josh Rosen,

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Speaker 1: Sam Darnold, Lamar Jackson, all of these guys who were

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Speaker 1: drafted this past year, particularly in the first round, they're

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Speaker 1: all getting thumbs up thumbs down from guys around the country.

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Speaker 1: And it's interesting because you and I know, you can

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Speaker 1: tell a lot of guys just look at the statistics,

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Speaker 1: statistics and make the call that's it. They didn't look

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Speaker 1: they didn't watch the games, they weren't in the building, obviously,

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Speaker 1: they just look at his final statistics of the season

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Speaker 1: and say, yeah, he's just not good enough, that's not

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Speaker 1: good enough, and they miss what Josh Allen did during

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Speaker 1: the regular season. So here's the thing. It is early

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Speaker 1: in his career. We still don't know everything we're going

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Speaker 1: to know about him that we will a few years

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Speaker 1: down the road. But here's the question. Is Josh Allen

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Speaker 1: the guy for the Buffalo Bills. You got to say yes, absolutely,

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Speaker 1: he is, he probably is, he's probably not, or no,

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Speaker 1: he's not. And we we structured the answers very very

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Speaker 1: carefully because we didn't want to give you an out.

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Speaker 1: You gotta pick. And of course we talked to mostly

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Speaker 1: Bills fans here on this show. There's there you can

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Speaker 1: tell no sense. There ain't no Cincinnati Bengal fans on

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Speaker 1: this loop, right, so uh And eighty nine percent of

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Speaker 1: the respondence to this point, out of almost a thousand votes,

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Speaker 1: say yes or probably is. Forty five percent say yes absolutely,

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Speaker 1: forty four percent percent say probably, and then of course

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Speaker 1: eight percent say probably isn't, and only three percent say no,

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Speaker 1: and a three percent of saying no. I'm surprised by

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Speaker 1: the whole pole. I gotta say by the early results. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I would vote probably is. And I felt good, really

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Speaker 1: good about Josh after the season finale against the Miami game.

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Speaker 1: And I think during the play by play game play

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Speaker 1: by play broadcast at that game, I said something playing

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Speaker 1: on the air, like, here's your quarterback, Josh Hanley, because

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Speaker 1: I do believe that he probably is Chris Brown came

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Speaker 1: on the show a couple of weeks before that I

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Speaker 1: can't remember which Bills game it was, and said, we

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Speaker 1: have our guy, and I appreciate Chris's opinions on this.

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Speaker 1: He is as close an observer as you will find

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Speaker 1: when it comes to the Buffalo Bills. But forty five

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Speaker 1: percent say absolutely that surprises me because I'm not there.

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Speaker 1: I'm in the probably range forty four percent there, which

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Speaker 1: is almost tied with yes, Absolutely. I think he's trending

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Speaker 1: towards being the guy for the Buffalo Bills, and I'm

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Speaker 1: surprised based on what we read nationally, based on you know,

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Speaker 1: we have just had a guest yesterday talking about Josh Ellen,

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Speaker 1: Mike Lay, who said, yeah, the numbers were not good.

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Speaker 1: He doesn't do this. Accuracy is still an issue. But

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Speaker 1: only eleven percent say he's either not the guy or

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Speaker 1: probably not. That surprises me based on what we hear

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Speaker 1: from around the country. I also think Steve, as you said,

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Speaker 1: you know, we got people making observations about Josh Allen

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Speaker 1: from a farm. Maybe you don't see every game, see

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Speaker 1: every play. You also got people voting in our poll

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Speaker 1: who do see every Bill's game. Do see every play

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Speaker 1: that johsh Allen make and see him doing some incredible

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Speaker 1: things like diving for the end zone or jumping over

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Speaker 1: a linebacker in Minnesota, and that colors it too. Those

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Speaker 1: are people who might ignore the deficiencies in Josh Allen's game.

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Speaker 1: They might kind of shrug off the fact that he

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Speaker 1: is not the most accurate pastor and say, yeah, he

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Speaker 1: could be more accurate, but look at him jump over

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Speaker 1: bar the linebacker in Minnesota, right, I mean, so you

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Speaker 1: get a little bit both. We're gonna you know, I

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Speaker 1: knew we knew that this poll would be waded towards

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Speaker 1: favorable for Josh, but I'm surprised that it is that favorable,

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Speaker 1: with a combination of eighty nine percent of respondents saying

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Speaker 1: yes they believe Josh Allen is the guy. Where would

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Speaker 1: you vote if you were voting him? And it is earlier.

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Speaker 1: The only reason I say I would say like you,

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Speaker 1: I say, probably is. But I'm leaning towards absolutely he is.

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Speaker 1: And I know this too. Barring anything unforeseen like injury

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Speaker 1: and all of that stuff, he's gonna be the guy

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Speaker 1: for the next handful of years because he's shown so

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Speaker 1: much promise now and I do have a lot of

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Speaker 1: faith in the coaching staff that's here and the culture

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Speaker 1: they're building around him, and the effort they're going to

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Speaker 1: put forth to make him into a better player, and

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Speaker 1: the things that stick with me, and I say it

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Speaker 1: time after time when we get into this is this

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Speaker 1: I saw more improof and listen, let's face it, he

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Speaker 1: had more improvements to make than guys like Baker Mayfield

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Speaker 1: and Sam Darnold. Those guys came in a little more polished.

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Speaker 1: Josh Rosen did too, although he was on a struggling

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Speaker 1: team in Arizona that couldn't do anything around him a

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Speaker 1: little bit like Josh, but Donald and Mayfield were thought

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Speaker 1: to be a little bit more polished than Josh. Josh

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Speaker 1: played at Wyoming. There was much more. There's many a

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Speaker 1: lot more he had to learn than and he had

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Speaker 1: to be exposed to that Sam Donald and Baker Mayfield

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Speaker 1: and Josh Rosen had already experienced and been through. And

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Speaker 1: I think the way he handled it early in the

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Speaker 1: season and the leaps and bounds that he made during

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Speaker 1: the regular season really give me a lot of optimism.

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Speaker 1: That last game against the Dolphins. Now you can granted

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Speaker 1: the Dolphins had taken it out of gear a little bit,

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Speaker 1: but they hung forty two points on him, and he

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Speaker 1: completed sixty four percent of his passes. That's significantly more

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Speaker 1: than he ever did up to that point, and it

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Speaker 1: was a concerted effort to do just that. I've never

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Speaker 1: seen Josh Allen as an inaccurate quarterback. I have seen

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Speaker 1: him as a quarterback with a low completion percentage. And

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Speaker 1: the reasons for that low completion percentage wasn't that he

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Speaker 1: was an inaccurate quarterback. It was that he chose to

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Speaker 1: make throws that were very difficult to complete. And then

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Speaker 1: the last game, as we saw him make other decisions

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Speaker 1: in his game coming into it, he just decided he

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Speaker 1: was going to do that. And that ability to make

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Speaker 1: that decision and have that big a jump in his

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Speaker 1: production is startling to me, and I think it's going

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Speaker 1: to be I thought it was a really learning thing

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Speaker 1: and a real testament to what he can do when

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Speaker 1: he makes decisions right. So that he just decided, I

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Speaker 1: think they as a team is an offense said hey,

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Speaker 1: we need we need to look at shorter passes here

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Speaker 1: for Miami. We need this is our best way to win.

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Speaker 1: This is the element of our offensive missing, Josh, take

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Speaker 1: the checkdown passes, go ahead, take those, make the short passes.

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Speaker 1: I think he was coached into that. I think he

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Speaker 1: almost said that to us on the show. I don't

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Speaker 1: think he made a unilateral decision I'm going to throw short.

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Speaker 1: That's exactly I agree with you. But here's my pointmur

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Speaker 1: The low completion percentage in the weeks before that wasn't

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Speaker 1: because he was inaccurate, is because he wasn't taken easy completions.

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Speaker 1: And he didn't do it at Wyoming, and he certainly

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Speaker 1: wasn't doing it in his early time here in Buffalo.

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Speaker 1: He was pushing the ball down the field. He was

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Speaker 1: a handful, particularly with giving his legs, and he was

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Speaker 1: using those early on, and he used him continually. He

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Speaker 1: led the team in rushing. For goodness sakes, It's not

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Speaker 1: the perfect thing to do. But I do think I

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Speaker 1: do think this. The fact that they coached that out

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Speaker 1: of him, and particularly for that game, says to me, well,

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Speaker 1: let's do it every week. Let's complete sixty five percent

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Speaker 1: of our passes every week maybe, and then if you

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Speaker 1: do that, then what happened to your inaccuracy? An inaccurate

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Speaker 1: quarterback never becoming accurate. Well, it's blown out of the

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Speaker 1: water because he was an accurate quarterback trying to make

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Speaker 1: difficult throws that were the percentages were against. He wasn't

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Speaker 1: taken checked downs, He wasn't taken the screen passes, the

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Speaker 1: whip screens, the bubble screens, you know, the shovel passes

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Speaker 1: that count as a completion, and he never They didn't

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Speaker 1: do that. He was pushing the ball down the field

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Speaker 1: on more occasions than other teams were, and then when

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Speaker 1: they decided they were going to do it the other way,

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Speaker 1: he flipped the switch and all of a sudden, he

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Speaker 1: is a sixty four or sixty five completion guy. And

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Speaker 1: that's what I that's my optimism and this Twitter poll saying, yeah,

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Speaker 1: you know what, if he can do that week to week,

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Speaker 1: he probably is the guy. Well I need to see more, right.

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Speaker 1: I think they're looking for versatility from Josh and in

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Speaker 1: the offense, can you do this, can you do that?

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Speaker 1: I think that's what they look for most of the season.

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Speaker 1: Once they got him ready to play, and I think

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Speaker 1: they realized in the Miami game that yeah, he can

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Speaker 1: take the checkdown pass, he can take the easy pass,

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Speaker 1: he can throw that complete it and have a better

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Speaker 1: complete your percentage. I think that's good moving forward. And

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Speaker 1: he scored five times. He was through for three and

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Speaker 1: ran for two in the last game of the season.

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Speaker 1: The guy was a wrecking crew. He was a one

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Speaker 1: man ricking crew, and he had to be. He had

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Speaker 1: no You know, they need an offensive line, they need

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Speaker 1: more wide receivers, and they need a running game. He

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Speaker 1: didn't have any of that, how you know. So you

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Speaker 1: look at all of that and see this guy start

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Speaker 1: to flex his muscles as you know, the ultimate weapon

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Speaker 1: like Cam Newton esque, and it's got to give you

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Speaker 1: a sense that, you know what, I think we got

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Speaker 1: our guy. Well, let's see what do you think is

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Speaker 1: Josh Allen the guy for the Buffalo Bills. Simple question

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Speaker 1: on the table today, our Twitter poll, our show topic.

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Speaker 1: You can ring us up, let us know what you

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Speaker 1: think eight oh three oh five fifty or toll free

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Speaker 1: one eight eight eight five fifty two five fifty. You

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Speaker 1: can do it on Twitter. You can vote in our

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Speaker 1: Twitter poll more than a thousand of you have so far,

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Speaker 1: or you can leave us a note on Twitter on

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Speaker 1: the tweet sheet. We might read it for you. It's

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Speaker 1: Josh Allen the guy said, well, question, let us know

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Speaker 1: what you think. Steve and I just getting rolling. It

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Speaker 1: Bill's Driving. This is Buffalo Bill's Radium. Yes, it's not

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Speaker 1: the same as it used to do, right Murph, that's right, Steve,

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Speaker 1: Welcome back to the show where our conversation continues. Conversation continues.

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Speaker 1: Conversation is about the guy. Is Josh the guy? Is

641
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Speaker 1: he the guy? I think so? But there ain't nobody

642
00:31:32,160 --> 00:31:33,720
Speaker 1: else is going to be the guy that's on the

643
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Speaker 1: roster right now. I mean Josh is the guy, and

644
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Speaker 1: that the question is are we all going to be

645
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Speaker 1: happy about it in five years, ten years? That's the

646
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Speaker 1: real question when nobody's gonna be able to answer. What

647
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Speaker 1: do you think? Is Josh Allen the guy? That's our

648
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Speaker 1: question today. Let's get you want? Are you wanna try

649
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Speaker 1: a phone call? Yeah? You think I'll work this week?

650
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Speaker 1: Eric in Connecticut? Hello, Eric? Are you there? Yeah? I bet?

651
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Speaker 1: I know we all talk about Josh's physical capabilities, but

652
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Speaker 1: the one thing that I really love about Josh is

653
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Speaker 1: his mental makeup. So I have a friend, I heard

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Speaker 1: football guy, but he's not really a Bills fans always

655
00:32:10,400 --> 00:32:12,960
Speaker 1: comes to me to questions, so he's asking about Josh

656
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Speaker 1: and how he's like. And one thing, you know, we

657
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Speaker 1: always compare to other players when it comes to mental makeup.

658
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Speaker 1: He only really reminds me of he's such a competitor

659
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Speaker 1: on the field, really intends a great leader, but right

660
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Speaker 1: when he gets off the field, he's always cool, calm, collected.

661
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Speaker 1: He's great on interviews, really likable. He's never gonna say

662
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Speaker 1: something bad to get together, team matters, steppers over his feet.

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Speaker 1: He really reminds me of like Russell Wilson, that same

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Speaker 1: intense competitor on the fielding a leader, but then he

665
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Speaker 1: always really says the right things off the field, and

666
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Speaker 1: even at a young age. It's really exciting how we

667
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Speaker 1: can be used but you know the real phase of

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Speaker 1: the team. Yeah, that's it's an interesting comparison, and that's

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Speaker 1: I think it's a positive comparison too. I mean, obviously,

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Speaker 1: Russell Wilson is a guy a lot of people respect

671
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Speaker 1: on and off the field. Everybody you know he's a

672
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Speaker 1: great football player. But he's by all accounts and I've

673
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Speaker 1: met and spoken with him, he is a great guy.

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Speaker 1: Seems like exactly what you what. He comes off as

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Speaker 1: as being he's genuine and down to earth and Josh

676
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Speaker 1: and I spoke with him this last weekend for a

677
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Speaker 1: minute and he's just you know, he is that guy.

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Speaker 1: He's a real uh a country kid who's you know,

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Speaker 1: just kind of a little bit gali gee Chucks still

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Speaker 1: at this point in his career. Um, but I think

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Speaker 1: when you look at it and all when you talk

682
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Speaker 1: to him and when you hear what the coaches say

683
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Speaker 1: about him, he's highly intelligent, which is speaks to why

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Speaker 1: he has improved so quickly. Uh. He picks things up

685
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Speaker 1: pretty fast. And that's here. He does fit in here.

686
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Speaker 1: And you know, I and you know, we were talking

687
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Speaker 1: about the Sabers earlier and I got I got away

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Speaker 1: with it. Yeah. The reason I'm invested him a I

689
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Speaker 1: you know, I moved here from someplace else and now

690
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Speaker 1: this is my home and it has been for thirty

691
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Speaker 1: plus years. And I'm kind of a Buffalo guy now right,

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Speaker 1: maybe I would like to think, right right exactly, I'm

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Speaker 1: an honor rary maybe sort of Tomorrow's Twitter pole. He

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Speaker 1: Steve Buffalo guy. I'm a candidate for being a Buffalo guy.

695
00:34:06,000 --> 00:34:08,399
Speaker 1: So I'm a bum buffalo, want to be guy. Yeah,

696
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Speaker 1: and Josh Allen is kind of that type of person.

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Speaker 1: He's he wants to be good, wants to be a

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Speaker 1: good person. You know, he wants he doesn't you know,

699
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Speaker 1: he's he put his arms around the town. He loves

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Speaker 1: it here. Um the kind of guy you want to

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Speaker 1: cheer for. And that's been a big plus towards that

702
00:34:31,880 --> 00:34:33,839
Speaker 1: we've seen. Even in the last couple of weeks, we've

703
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Speaker 1: seen his teammates come and tweet about him. He had

704
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Speaker 1: that autograph thing where he signed to Jalen Ramsey and

705
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Speaker 1: we haven't even mentioned that on the show too much,

706
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Speaker 1: but his teammates came out and said, yeah, man, that's

707
00:34:45,960 --> 00:34:50,560
Speaker 1: my guy. He love he love it. So he does

708
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Speaker 1: remind me a lot of in a lot of positive ways,

709
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Speaker 1: about a lot of guys I've seen across the years

710
00:34:56,120 --> 00:34:59,799
Speaker 1: I've I've the only thing he has negatively that's going

711
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Speaker 1: to gainst him is his lack of experience, and he's

712
00:35:01,800 --> 00:35:03,680
Speaker 1: getting that in a big hurry. There's Josh, you having

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Speaker 1: the guy. What do you think. Let's go to Steve

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Speaker 1: in Ohio. Hello Steve, Welcome to the show. Hey guys,

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00:35:09,120 --> 00:35:12,840
Speaker 1: Hey Steve A John, how are you doing great? Good

716
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Speaker 1: h I want to take this a little different take

717
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Speaker 1: on this. I was chomping at the bit when this

718
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Speaker 1: was the topic. Good topic. We'll give it to Seve. Yeah,

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00:35:22,719 --> 00:35:25,600
Speaker 1: he has to be, Thank you, Steve. He has to

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Speaker 1: be the guy. And here's this take I want to make.

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Speaker 1: There's no way he can't be. You know, Murphy, I

722
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Speaker 1: bought my seasons in eighty three. Wow, the seats like

723
00:35:35,840 --> 00:35:39,960
Speaker 1: like picking a melon. Yeah, you know, Jim. And then

724
00:35:40,480 --> 00:35:44,120
Speaker 1: then we had seats for eleven twelve years. In the

725
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Speaker 1: great years from then to before, Josh, you would pick

726
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Speaker 1: up a Mario Williams here and there you could fill

727
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Speaker 1: some seats. You go back and forth, you can all

728
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Speaker 1: the way back to Blood Cellars keep coming up. But

729
00:35:57,320 --> 00:36:01,279
Speaker 1: now your season ticket holders of actually, but a lot

730
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Speaker 1: of fans that are a little older. All of a sudden,

731
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Speaker 1: if he's not the guy being his legacy mcdermot's legacy

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Speaker 1: to a lesser extent maybe, or to that extent, the

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Speaker 1: Pagoula legacy and the organization. He just fade a comment

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Speaker 1: about Steve. You you counting buffalo, You've lived in the city,

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Speaker 1: and Jim pushes it that carries a lot of weight

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Speaker 1: with us that love you guys. And now, if Josh

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Speaker 1: isn't the guy, no pleasure, Josh. But if he's not

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Speaker 1: the guy, it's gonna be very hard or you're gonna

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Speaker 1: see the ceat emptying out like I haven't seen since

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Speaker 1: eighty three and eighty four. So I really think he's

741
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Speaker 1: the guy checks off all the bottom. The last thing

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Speaker 1: I'll say. If he does check off all the boxes,

743
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Speaker 1: you're phototype. We know that heart, strength, the attitude, the confidence.

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Speaker 1: But they must be betting there. They are betting everything on. Yeah,

745
00:36:54,400 --> 00:36:56,920
Speaker 1: they with the team. So that's it. That's my point. Yeah,

746
00:36:56,920 --> 00:36:58,799
Speaker 1: it's good point, Stephen Ohio. And I think you're right

747
00:36:58,840 --> 00:37:02,080
Speaker 1: about the fact that Brandon Bean and Sean McDermot are

748
00:37:02,120 --> 00:37:06,200
Speaker 1: tied into him deeply. And if Josh is not the guy,

749
00:37:06,480 --> 00:37:08,759
Speaker 1: that will go on their account, right, that will go

750
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Speaker 1: on their resume. That's important. But the only thing I

751
00:37:11,320 --> 00:37:13,400
Speaker 1: would disagree with you, Stephen Ohio, is and I'd like

752
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Speaker 1: to get Stephen orchard Park sitting next to me his

753
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Speaker 1: reaction to this if he is not, which is kind

754
00:37:19,600 --> 00:37:21,480
Speaker 1: of weird to think that way, But if he is not,

755
00:37:22,200 --> 00:37:25,399
Speaker 1: you're saying people will season ticket holders will abandon the team.

756
00:37:25,440 --> 00:37:27,719
Speaker 1: You know, people have predicted that sort of thing for

757
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Speaker 1: decades and it doesn't happen. I think it's an incredible

758
00:37:30,560 --> 00:37:34,200
Speaker 1: testament to the devotion and love that this fan base

759
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Speaker 1: has for the NFL and for this franchise in particular,

760
00:37:37,360 --> 00:37:39,200
Speaker 1: so that if it doesn't work out for Josh, and

761
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Speaker 1: all signs are it is going to work out, I'd

762
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Speaker 1: have a hard time telling you that would be the

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Speaker 1: end of it, that people would abandoned the team. Would

764
00:37:45,560 --> 00:37:50,520
Speaker 1: there be slippage, probably, but these fans have never really

765
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Speaker 1: abandoned this franchise through some pretty dark times over the

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Speaker 1: last couple of decades. I don't know that that would happen. Yes,

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00:37:56,480 --> 00:37:58,400
Speaker 1: I hope it wouldn't, and I don't see any evidence

768
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Speaker 1: that it would. I don't think it would listen. There's

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Speaker 1: a lot of gray area between being turning out to

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Speaker 1: be Tom Brady and turning out to be somebody like

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Speaker 1: Jake Locker who played for the first round draft, played

772
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Speaker 1: for a while, and then retired after three or four

773
00:38:12,960 --> 00:38:14,440
Speaker 1: years because he was getting beat up, you know. And

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Speaker 1: what's that mean to say he's the guy, right? I

775
00:38:17,680 --> 00:38:19,680
Speaker 1: mean it's Tom Brady. Yeah, doesn't mean it could be

776
00:38:19,840 --> 00:38:21,919
Speaker 1: just the guy that gets us to the next level

777
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Speaker 1: of playing for a super Bowl. Again, multiple occasions are

778
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Speaker 1: in the playoffs in multiple years. There's a difference between

779
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Speaker 1: being a guy that goes to the playoffs like like

780
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Speaker 1: Andy Dalton and a guy that goes to the playoffs

781
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Speaker 1: like you know, Ben Roethlisberger or Aaron Rodgers. You know,

782
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Speaker 1: are they the guy that gets them there? Or are

783
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Speaker 1: they just a complimentary piece. I mean, there's a lot

784
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Speaker 1: of gray area, and the guy just means that to me,

785
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Speaker 1: Let's face it, at the very least, being the guy

786
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Speaker 1: means you're gonna be a quarterback that they're not trying

787
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Speaker 1: to replace year after year after year after year of

788
00:38:55,960 --> 00:38:58,160
Speaker 1: year you have a long stretch where it's your team

789
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Speaker 1: and they're not even thinking about out replacing you. They

790
00:39:01,239 --> 00:39:03,320
Speaker 1: may switch the guys behind you, they might get a

791
00:39:03,360 --> 00:39:05,920
Speaker 1: better backup or what it may change coaches or according

792
00:39:06,080 --> 00:39:08,880
Speaker 1: but they've got a guy and and and the very

793
00:39:08,960 --> 00:39:11,280
Speaker 1: bottom line for me would be a guy like Andy Dalton,

794
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Speaker 1: um even better. I like Andy Dalton better, like Ryan Tannehill.

795
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Speaker 1: Guys like that, you're not really trying to That's the base, right,

796
00:39:19,160 --> 00:39:25,160
Speaker 1: That's the that's bedrock of being the guy. Yeah, you're right, Dalton,

797
00:39:25,440 --> 00:39:27,800
Speaker 1: You're just you're not trying to replace him. You know

798
00:39:27,920 --> 00:39:30,560
Speaker 1: you could get better, but you know it's he's you know,

799
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Speaker 1: he's not the reason you're not getting deeper. Maybe he

800
00:39:34,200 --> 00:39:35,480
Speaker 1: is once you, but he's not the reason you're not

801
00:39:35,520 --> 00:39:37,400
Speaker 1: getting the playoffs. You know what I'm saying. He's not

802
00:39:37,440 --> 00:39:40,480
Speaker 1: the reason you're not competitive. You're not getting outplayed at

803
00:39:40,520 --> 00:39:42,960
Speaker 1: that position week after week after week after week. And

804
00:39:43,120 --> 00:39:44,920
Speaker 1: here's the thing that gets me is why I think

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Speaker 1: Josh really is the guy. And it's and it has

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Speaker 1: a little bit to do with Sean McDermott, Brandon Bean

807
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Speaker 1: and Murphy. You can speak to this too. What do

808
00:39:51,880 --> 00:39:55,840
Speaker 1: you I think there's a lot of faith in Josh

809
00:39:56,600 --> 00:40:00,919
Speaker 1: from the guys who see him every day. McDermott, Day Bowl,

810
00:40:01,360 --> 00:40:06,560
Speaker 1: Brandon Bean, the quarterbacks coach, and all these guys teammates,

811
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Speaker 1: they see him every day and they think he's the guy.

812
00:40:10,320 --> 00:40:13,960
Speaker 1: To me, that says a lot. Well, I think what

813
00:40:14,080 --> 00:40:17,000
Speaker 1: you were saying also is reflected. And sometimes we'll have

814
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Speaker 1: media guests, national media guests who don't see him every

815
00:40:19,920 --> 00:40:22,919
Speaker 1: day and don't hold him in the same they don't

816
00:40:22,920 --> 00:40:24,680
Speaker 1: even look at him. They look at numbers man. Yeah,

817
00:40:24,800 --> 00:40:26,239
Speaker 1: but they don't hold him in the high regard that

818
00:40:26,280 --> 00:40:28,360
Speaker 1: people to see him every day. That's a really good point, Steve.

819
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Speaker 1: People who are around him and people who see him

820
00:40:30,440 --> 00:40:33,160
Speaker 1: work every day practice, and who have been around the league,

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Speaker 1: they've seen other guys. They think, yeah, he's the guy.

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Speaker 1: Frand Dable's seen Tom Brady, you know, Sean McDermott, seemed

823
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Speaker 1: seen Cam Newton, these other you know, these coaches have

824
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Speaker 1: been around really good quarterbacks and really bad quarterbacks, and

825
00:40:45,920 --> 00:40:48,759
Speaker 1: all of those guys to me, and I have asked

826
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Speaker 1: him specifically, but I know what they'd say, But they

827
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Speaker 1: seem to think, yes, this is our this is our guy.

828
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Speaker 1: You know that we wouldn't. In fact, at this point,

829
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Speaker 1: it'd be interesting to know if they wouldn't have switched.

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Speaker 1: They would if they had to do over again. They

831
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Speaker 1: want him again, you know what I mean, If they

832
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Speaker 1: had to pick between Baker Mayfield, Sam Darnold, you know,

833
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Speaker 1: Joshua all these guys, I don't know, if they wouldn't

834
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Speaker 1: might pick him again if they were number one in

835
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Speaker 1: the draft. Good point, you know what I mean? Yeah,

836
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Speaker 1: and I don't I can't say that as I'm released.

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Speaker 1: Question just occurred to me, so I'm going on last

838
00:41:19,200 --> 00:41:21,560
Speaker 1: year on the show, I said it they liked Sam

839
00:41:21,760 --> 00:41:23,640
Speaker 1: Arnold and Josh Allen knowing that they wouldn't get a

840
00:41:23,640 --> 00:41:26,360
Speaker 1: crack at Baker Mayfield. But to your point, if you

841
00:41:26,560 --> 00:41:29,320
Speaker 1: asked him now, which of the three they might go

842
00:41:29,440 --> 00:41:32,759
Speaker 1: to Josh instead of Baker Mayfield, I certainly think they

843
00:41:32,880 --> 00:41:35,960
Speaker 1: probably would have instead of Sam Arnold. Yeah. Hey, on

844
00:41:36,080 --> 00:41:37,719
Speaker 1: the Twitter poll, is Josh Allen the guy for the

845
00:41:37,760 --> 00:41:41,879
Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills? Edward Christian tweets this in on the tweet sheet.

846
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Speaker 1: He needs to get more accurate and could be great

847
00:41:44,040 --> 00:41:46,360
Speaker 1: if he does. History is not on his side with that,

848
00:41:46,960 --> 00:41:49,800
Speaker 1: and almost never do quarterbacks like Allen improve their accuracy.

849
00:41:49,920 --> 00:41:52,600
Speaker 1: But he shows so many intangibles in leadership that he

850
00:41:52,680 --> 00:41:54,920
Speaker 1: did better than I thought he would in year one. Okay, Yeah,

851
00:41:55,000 --> 00:41:57,799
Speaker 1: see he and I disagree with Edward, and I've been

852
00:41:57,840 --> 00:42:00,279
Speaker 1: saying it all the game. I don't think Josh is

853
00:42:00,280 --> 00:42:03,000
Speaker 1: an inaccurate quarterback. I think he's a quarterback with a

854
00:42:03,600 --> 00:42:07,440
Speaker 1: lousy or a bad completion percentage. There are other reasons

855
00:42:07,520 --> 00:42:10,239
Speaker 1: for that other than his ability when he throws the

856
00:42:10,280 --> 00:42:12,160
Speaker 1: ball it doesn't go in the right spot. One of

857
00:42:12,200 --> 00:42:14,839
Speaker 1: the reasons is and the main one is he never

858
00:42:14,960 --> 00:42:18,359
Speaker 1: takes the easy completion. He did that in the week

859
00:42:18,480 --> 00:42:21,239
Speaker 1: seventeen of the Dolphins game and completed sixty five percent

860
00:42:21,320 --> 00:42:24,600
Speaker 1: of his passes. He just tries to make the throws

861
00:42:24,680 --> 00:42:27,520
Speaker 1: that are difficult to make all too often that can

862
00:42:27,600 --> 00:42:30,800
Speaker 1: be coached. It's not that he doesn't is not accurate.

863
00:42:31,680 --> 00:42:34,120
Speaker 1: It's that he's trying to make difficult throws too often.

864
00:42:34,160 --> 00:42:36,239
Speaker 1: Plus he doesn't have that much help around him, so

865
00:42:36,400 --> 00:42:38,640
Speaker 1: that does That goes into that as well. But I

866
00:42:38,760 --> 00:42:41,520
Speaker 1: think it's more a mindset for Josh than it is

867
00:42:41,600 --> 00:42:44,880
Speaker 1: his inaccuracy that makes his completion percentage stay low. Tweet

868
00:42:44,920 --> 00:42:47,480
Speaker 1: sheet from Brian Cook is Josh Allen the guy for

869
00:42:47,520 --> 00:42:50,439
Speaker 1: the Bills? Brian Cook says, probably the only reason I'm

870
00:42:50,440 --> 00:42:52,239
Speaker 1: still on the fence is because I want to see

871
00:42:52,280 --> 00:42:54,880
Speaker 1: it before I'm all in. He has the physical attributes,

872
00:42:54,920 --> 00:42:58,960
Speaker 1: he has all the intangible boxes checked, including work, ethic, intelligence,

873
00:42:59,080 --> 00:43:01,400
Speaker 1: competitive fire. It's pet but I just don't want to

874
00:43:01,400 --> 00:43:03,399
Speaker 1: be let down again. I'm still at ninety percent. There's

875
00:43:03,480 --> 00:43:05,319
Speaker 1: some of that going around. People just have been burned

876
00:43:05,360 --> 00:43:06,719
Speaker 1: before they feel and they don't want to be let

877
00:43:06,800 --> 00:43:08,799
Speaker 1: down again. I guess you noticed this too. He's he's

878
00:43:09,120 --> 00:43:12,640
Speaker 1: he's look at look at our look at our Twitter poll.

879
00:43:14,719 --> 00:43:17,560
Speaker 1: Eighty nine percent of the people are right saying yeah,

880
00:43:17,680 --> 00:43:21,080
Speaker 1: probably or at least yes. So he is exactly where

881
00:43:21,160 --> 00:43:24,680
Speaker 1: our Twitter respondents are on the positives. Joy is Jess

882
00:43:24,800 --> 00:43:26,279
Speaker 1: the guy for the Bills. That's what we're talking about.

883
00:43:26,320 --> 00:43:28,879
Speaker 1: We'll continue that discussion when we come back. John Murphy,

884
00:43:28,920 --> 00:43:31,439
Speaker 1: Steve Tasker, One Bill's Live, presented by Collat of Health

885
00:43:31,800 --> 00:43:34,479
Speaker 1: from One Bill's Drive. And this is Buffalo Bill's Radio.

886
00:43:47,400 --> 00:43:50,480
Speaker 1: One Bill's Live from One Bill's Drive. John Murphy, Steve Tasker,

887
00:43:51,200 --> 00:43:54,239
Speaker 1: coming here from our one Buffalo studio. We started out

888
00:43:54,280 --> 00:43:57,000
Speaker 1: the show talking about the Savers and you said you

889
00:43:57,160 --> 00:43:59,960
Speaker 1: traded text with Thurman. I didn't realize they got a

890
00:44:00,000 --> 00:44:01,640
Speaker 1: shot a Therman on the game last night. Is it

891
00:44:01,760 --> 00:44:04,080
Speaker 1: what made you think? It's pretty funny if you can

892
00:44:04,200 --> 00:44:06,960
Speaker 1: if you're watching on a game. Was still good when

893
00:44:07,000 --> 00:44:09,920
Speaker 1: they showed him the first time, he looked. Yeah, his

894
00:44:10,040 --> 00:44:14,160
Speaker 1: rubbing his temples like he was in pain. And it's

895
00:44:14,200 --> 00:44:16,320
Speaker 1: gonna be a meme, I'm sure for Bills fans, because

896
00:44:16,800 --> 00:44:20,120
Speaker 1: or Savers fan right right, And I texted him, I said,

897
00:44:20,120 --> 00:44:24,560
Speaker 1: how how good were your seats? And he said, uh,

898
00:44:25,480 --> 00:44:27,319
Speaker 1: they were good for the first three periods, they were

899
00:44:27,400 --> 00:44:29,840
Speaker 1: really good. Now they're not so good for them. He

900
00:44:29,960 --> 00:44:33,439
Speaker 1: doesn't look happy. He's like me though, he's invested. Yeah,

901
00:44:33,560 --> 00:44:35,480
Speaker 1: they can't. You can't bail on him just because it's

902
00:44:35,480 --> 00:44:37,400
Speaker 1: a bad stretch man. You gotta kind of hang in.

903
00:44:38,440 --> 00:44:41,000
Speaker 1: Is Josh Allen the guy for the Buffalo Bills? What

904
00:44:41,120 --> 00:44:44,160
Speaker 1: do you think? Eighth three fifty to three, one eight

905
00:44:44,280 --> 00:44:47,760
Speaker 1: eight five fifty two five fifty Chuck and Clarence go ahead,

906
00:44:47,800 --> 00:44:52,080
Speaker 1: chuck around the air. Yes, I think Josh he's the guy.

907
00:44:52,600 --> 00:44:56,360
Speaker 1: Probably That's where I am too. I think he is.

908
00:44:57,760 --> 00:45:00,480
Speaker 1: I've seen everybody back to rich Stadium, which by the way,

909
00:45:00,480 --> 00:45:04,759
Speaker 1: I still call it rich Stadium, and sure, as soon

910
00:45:04,840 --> 00:45:07,440
Speaker 1: as he walked in, I went, oh my god. And

911
00:45:07,640 --> 00:45:09,600
Speaker 1: then of course as he went on the field we

912
00:45:09,680 --> 00:45:13,000
Speaker 1: saw him perform. You say, wow, this guy's built like Kelly,

913
00:45:13,239 --> 00:45:17,800
Speaker 1: he moves like Thurman. Seems to be the guy. But

914
00:45:17,960 --> 00:45:20,880
Speaker 1: until I get a line in front of him, until

915
00:45:20,960 --> 00:45:23,879
Speaker 1: we see him look over the line and be able

916
00:45:23,920 --> 00:45:26,800
Speaker 1: to assess what's going on in defense and make those throws,

917
00:45:27,360 --> 00:45:29,440
Speaker 1: maybe get us to level one, which, of course just

918
00:45:29,560 --> 00:45:32,839
Speaker 1: the playoffs. See how he performs. He'll really be the one.

919
00:45:32,880 --> 00:45:35,160
Speaker 1: If he gets us into the playoffs and then performs

920
00:45:35,520 --> 00:45:37,680
Speaker 1: in the playoffs, of course, then you are the one.

921
00:45:37,840 --> 00:45:39,000
Speaker 1: You know, once you can do that. There's a lot

922
00:45:39,040 --> 00:45:42,160
Speaker 1: of great quarterbacks out there have great regular seasons and

923
00:45:42,520 --> 00:45:45,120
Speaker 1: just can't perform in the big ones. So I guess

924
00:45:45,160 --> 00:45:47,839
Speaker 1: we're probably looking if I look long term, that would

925
00:45:47,880 --> 00:45:50,839
Speaker 1: be the one if if you gotta sets far. But yeah, well,

926
00:45:50,880 --> 00:45:53,719
Speaker 1: and look, we know what we're asking for here, Chuck.

927
00:45:53,760 --> 00:45:56,080
Speaker 1: We're asking for people to make a projection based on

928
00:45:56,200 --> 00:45:58,680
Speaker 1: what they saw from year run without a playoff spot,

929
00:45:59,000 --> 00:46:02,520
Speaker 1: without a great surrounding cast, then yeah, I mean, if

930
00:46:02,600 --> 00:46:05,080
Speaker 1: he does get a great offensive line, he'll he'll look better.

931
00:46:05,400 --> 00:46:07,520
Speaker 1: If he does win a big playoff game, he'll look better.

932
00:46:07,600 --> 00:46:09,600
Speaker 1: But we're looking for a projection from what you've seen

933
00:46:09,680 --> 00:46:12,120
Speaker 1: so far. And you're saying you think so right, That's

934
00:46:12,160 --> 00:46:14,920
Speaker 1: why I am too. I really do, I really do.

935
00:46:15,080 --> 00:46:17,719
Speaker 1: He's a real pup. By the way, you are a

936
00:46:17,760 --> 00:46:22,560
Speaker 1: Buffalo guy, So tell Murphy, don't see your membership card? Yes, right,

937
00:46:23,080 --> 00:46:27,239
Speaker 1: you know the secret handshake? No, no, I know you're Steve,

938
00:46:27,360 --> 00:46:31,040
Speaker 1: You're a more Buffalo guy than I am. I'm I'm

939
00:46:31,080 --> 00:46:34,359
Speaker 1: with you, and I think I'm probably more optimistic than

940
00:46:34,520 --> 00:46:37,160
Speaker 1: a lot of people, are more sure of it than

941
00:46:37,160 --> 00:46:39,640
Speaker 1: a lot of people are. Because you mentioned all the reasons.

942
00:46:39,680 --> 00:46:41,640
Speaker 1: You want to see him with some weapons. You want

943
00:46:41,680 --> 00:46:43,680
Speaker 1: to see him do this with a better offensive line

944
00:46:43,680 --> 00:46:46,319
Speaker 1: and better running game, better wide receivers, you know they

945
00:46:46,520 --> 00:46:49,279
Speaker 1: everybody's wanting a tight end and free agency when he

946
00:46:49,360 --> 00:46:52,040
Speaker 1: loves Charles Clay. Listen, he did all this without any

947
00:46:52,040 --> 00:46:55,280
Speaker 1: of that stuff. He looked like he scored five touchdowns

948
00:46:55,320 --> 00:46:59,239
Speaker 1: against the Fins by himself, not by himself. But you

949
00:46:59,280 --> 00:47:01,480
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. I mean, he's through for three

950
00:47:01,600 --> 00:47:05,960
Speaker 1: and ran for two. Yeah, he's the guy. He's the guy.

951
00:47:06,000 --> 00:47:09,560
Speaker 1: He did it in an NFL game. He's the guy.

952
00:47:09,719 --> 00:47:11,759
Speaker 1: And I know that he's gonna Things are gonna get Yeah,

953
00:47:11,800 --> 00:47:13,440
Speaker 1: things are gonna get better when he's got guys. But

954
00:47:13,880 --> 00:47:16,640
Speaker 1: you've seen guys like Aaron Rodgers be the main reason

955
00:47:16,719 --> 00:47:18,960
Speaker 1: a team gets into the playoffs and the reason and

956
00:47:19,040 --> 00:47:20,880
Speaker 1: you're saying take him to the next level Level one

957
00:47:20,960 --> 00:47:22,680
Speaker 1: is get into the playoffs. But you want to see

958
00:47:22,719 --> 00:47:25,800
Speaker 1: him get deep. Listen, it takes a great player and

959
00:47:26,080 --> 00:47:29,120
Speaker 1: great players around him to go deep into the playoffs.

960
00:47:29,719 --> 00:47:32,279
Speaker 1: It takes a great team playing great to go deep

961
00:47:32,360 --> 00:47:35,160
Speaker 1: into the playoffs. Even if Josh Allen turns out to be,

962
00:47:35,680 --> 00:47:38,640
Speaker 1: you know, best guy in franchise history, he's gonna need

963
00:47:38,719 --> 00:47:40,600
Speaker 1: help if he gets into the playoffs to go deep.

964
00:47:41,120 --> 00:47:44,160
Speaker 1: We all know that that's so don't think that you're

965
00:47:44,200 --> 00:47:47,879
Speaker 1: only gonna say he's the guy when he gets deep

966
00:47:47,920 --> 00:47:50,160
Speaker 1: into the playoffs. And because listen, it's not going to

967
00:47:50,200 --> 00:47:52,400
Speaker 1: be just him that gets there. It was him a

968
00:47:52,520 --> 00:47:55,239
Speaker 1: lot of him offensively speaking this year that made this

969
00:47:55,360 --> 00:47:59,040
Speaker 1: team interesting to watch. And it was his ability to

970
00:47:59,040 --> 00:48:01,080
Speaker 1: get the ball to Robert Foster that has kind of

971
00:48:01,400 --> 00:48:06,239
Speaker 1: made us think, hey, Robert Foster might be able to play. So, yeah,

972
00:48:06,600 --> 00:48:08,920
Speaker 1: it's gonna get better when he gets better players around him.

973
00:48:09,000 --> 00:48:12,600
Speaker 1: What about him that's doing what he did without great

974
00:48:12,600 --> 00:48:15,200
Speaker 1: players around him? See the guy, Josh the Guy will

975
00:48:15,239 --> 00:48:18,400
Speaker 1: continue that discussion when we come back. Addi Ki Kabwalla

976
00:48:18,480 --> 00:48:20,640
Speaker 1: of the NFL Network schedule to join this text hour

977
00:48:20,680 --> 00:48:22,719
Speaker 1: as well. Come on back. We got one hour down,

978
00:48:22,760 --> 00:48:24,880
Speaker 1: two to go. It is One Bill's Live presented by

979
00:48:24,960 --> 00:48:28,279
Speaker 1: Kalida Health from One Bill's Drive. This is Buffalo Bill's Radio,

980
00:48:38,160 --> 00:48:42,960
Speaker 1: Buffalo Hills Radio Network Sports. We've got the update from

981
00:48:43,000 --> 00:48:45,640
Speaker 1: One Bills Drive. The Buffalo Sabers road trip continues in

982
00:48:45,719 --> 00:48:48,200
Speaker 1: Florida to morrow night. Last night, Savers lost on the

983
00:48:48,239 --> 00:48:51,600
Speaker 1: Florida Panthers four to two, Kael and Vladimir Subaka scoring

984
00:48:51,640 --> 00:48:53,960
Speaker 1: for Buffalo. The Panthers got three goals in a two

985
00:48:54,000 --> 00:48:56,360
Speaker 1: and a half minute spanned early in the third period.

986
00:48:56,520 --> 00:48:59,319
Speaker 1: Savers wrap up the road trip tomorrow in Tampa. They

987
00:48:59,360 --> 00:49:02,880
Speaker 1: played the Lightning Faceoff seven thirty in Tampa. UB's football

988
00:49:02,920 --> 00:49:06,399
Speaker 1: schedule for twenty nineteen came out today after ten wins

989
00:49:06,520 --> 00:49:08,400
Speaker 1: last year and a berth in a Bowl game. The

990
00:49:08,480 --> 00:49:10,840
Speaker 1: Bulls announced they'll kick off their campaign at home against

991
00:49:10,920 --> 00:49:14,360
Speaker 1: Robert Morris on Thursday, August twenty ninth, and then the

992
00:49:14,480 --> 00:49:17,200
Speaker 1: UB travels depend State September seventh, the fourth time the

993
00:49:17,239 --> 00:49:19,839
Speaker 1: Bulls on the Nitney Lions will meet. Both will stay

994
00:49:19,840 --> 00:49:22,759
Speaker 1: in the road play at Liberty University September fourteenth, and

995
00:49:22,880 --> 00:49:25,160
Speaker 1: they close out the non conference portunity of their schedule

996
00:49:25,239 --> 00:49:28,120
Speaker 1: September twenty first, wearing their home against Temple. The remaining

997
00:49:28,160 --> 00:49:31,160
Speaker 1: eight games of the season against Mid American Conference foes.

998
00:49:31,520 --> 00:49:33,680
Speaker 1: The Bulls final three games of the season will be

999
00:49:33,800 --> 00:49:38,319
Speaker 1: weeknight contests played on National Colovision. College Basketball Tonight at

1000
00:49:38,360 --> 00:49:40,840
Speaker 1: the Riley Center. The Red Hot Bonnies of Saint Bonaventure,

1001
00:49:41,040 --> 00:49:42,719
Speaker 1: winners of three or their last four or five of

1002
00:49:42,760 --> 00:49:46,479
Speaker 1: their last seven, home against LaSalle. The Bonnies now seven

1003
00:49:46,520 --> 00:49:49,239
Speaker 1: and five in league play, eleven and fourteen overall. The

1004
00:49:49,280 --> 00:49:52,520
Speaker 1: Bonnies seven pm. Tip off tonight at the Riley Center.

1005
00:49:52,560 --> 00:49:54,839
Speaker 1: The Big National Game Tonight. It's the number one team

1006
00:49:54,880 --> 00:49:56,640
Speaker 1: in the country. Duke at home against the number eight

1007
00:49:56,680 --> 00:49:59,239
Speaker 1: team in the country, North Carolina. First matchup of the

1008
00:49:59,280 --> 00:50:02,800
Speaker 1: season between these two long time rivals. Nine o'clock hipoff

1009
00:50:02,840 --> 00:50:05,400
Speaker 1: on ESPN. Duke, who has not lost a game in

1010
00:50:05,440 --> 00:50:08,680
Speaker 1: more than a month, home against North Carolina. NFL News.

1011
00:50:08,719 --> 00:50:12,719
Speaker 1: Adam Feeling, a two time pro bowler, is cautiously optimistic

1012
00:50:12,760 --> 00:50:15,320
Speaker 1: about a new deal with the Minnesota Vikings. His agent

1013
00:50:15,400 --> 00:50:17,640
Speaker 1: says they hope to hammer out a deal this offseason,

1014
00:50:17,880 --> 00:50:19,600
Speaker 1: but he would not hold out to try to force

1015
00:50:19,680 --> 00:50:22,400
Speaker 1: the Vikings hand. The Bengals are gonna interview lou and

1016
00:50:22,480 --> 00:50:25,840
Speaker 1: a Rumo for their vacancy a defensive coordinator. He is

1017
00:50:25,880 --> 00:50:28,759
Speaker 1: the Giants defensive backs coach, considered the front runner to

1018
00:50:28,840 --> 00:50:31,319
Speaker 1: land the gig. He is going to be interviewed by

1019
00:50:31,600 --> 00:50:36,080
Speaker 1: the new coach of the Cincinnati Bengals, Zach Taylor. That's

1020
00:50:36,120 --> 00:50:38,640
Speaker 1: the update from One Bill Strive, John Murphy, Steve Casker

1021
00:50:39,120 --> 00:50:41,719
Speaker 1: in our One Buffalo studio. Thanks for tuning in. We

1022
00:50:41,840 --> 00:50:43,839
Speaker 1: got a guest on the line, one of our favorite guests.

1023
00:50:43,880 --> 00:50:46,480
Speaker 1: He joined us on the Subway Fresh State Hotline. National

1024
00:50:46,520 --> 00:50:50,000
Speaker 1: correspondent for NFL Network, contributor to NFL Media, former Wall

1025
00:50:50,040 --> 00:50:52,719
Speaker 1: Street Journal reporter on the Business of Sports. Happy to

1026
00:50:52,760 --> 00:50:54,440
Speaker 1: have a d d kN Kablalah on the line with us,

1027
00:50:54,440 --> 00:50:56,920
Speaker 1: add John Murphy, Steve Tasker here in Buffalo. Thank you

1028
00:50:57,040 --> 00:50:59,640
Speaker 1: very much. It is my pleasure. But can I just

1029
00:50:59,719 --> 00:51:02,520
Speaker 1: say that when I said I would do anything that

1030
00:51:02,640 --> 00:51:07,040
Speaker 1: Steve Tasker asked me to do, I was told the

1031
00:51:07,120 --> 00:51:12,080
Speaker 1: Tasker is only okay. Yeah, I'm only okay. That's my

1032
00:51:12,239 --> 00:51:14,960
Speaker 1: reputation here. I'm just I'm kind of okay, you know.

1033
00:51:15,120 --> 00:51:16,719
Speaker 1: And I was trying to do you a favorite, Steve.

1034
00:51:16,800 --> 00:51:18,719
Speaker 1: I was just blowing you up as big as I could.

1035
00:51:19,200 --> 00:51:21,400
Speaker 1: You know, Steve is as nice to me as anybody

1036
00:51:21,440 --> 00:51:25,200
Speaker 1: I've ever met, and it was yeah, Steve's okay, Yeah exactly.

1037
00:51:25,320 --> 00:51:28,279
Speaker 1: That's well, you know, what can I do. I need

1038
00:51:28,320 --> 00:51:30,719
Speaker 1: all the help I can get, and I appreciate your

1039
00:51:30,800 --> 00:51:33,000
Speaker 1: willingness to at least aid in my effort to make

1040
00:51:33,040 --> 00:51:37,400
Speaker 1: people think I'm less than a jerk. Well, you know,

1041
00:51:37,600 --> 00:51:39,799
Speaker 1: it feels like we all have people in our lives

1042
00:51:39,880 --> 00:51:42,360
Speaker 1: to keep our heads small, that occasionally we need the

1043
00:51:42,440 --> 00:51:47,120
Speaker 1: people to tell the truth. Yeah, yeah, exactly. I appreciate that,

1044
00:51:47,239 --> 00:51:50,200
Speaker 1: and we appreciate you coming on. It seems like you

1045
00:51:50,320 --> 00:51:52,880
Speaker 1: guys down in Pittsburgh are the center of attention in

1046
00:51:52,920 --> 00:51:56,560
Speaker 1: a very quiet time of year. The dramas continues to

1047
00:51:56,680 --> 00:52:00,160
Speaker 1: swirl around the Steelers. I mean, Antonio Brown is to

1048
00:52:00,200 --> 00:52:03,560
Speaker 1: get traded, is he not? There's some talk now it's

1049
00:52:03,600 --> 00:52:05,560
Speaker 1: been reported that a lot of people think, no, he's

1050
00:52:05,600 --> 00:52:07,600
Speaker 1: going to stay right where he isn't because he's going

1051
00:52:07,640 --> 00:52:09,759
Speaker 1: to be impossible to trade. What's your take on the

1052
00:52:10,040 --> 00:52:14,440
Speaker 1: Antonio Brown's situation. Well, you know, I talked to a

1053
00:52:14,560 --> 00:52:17,200
Speaker 1: high level member of the organization this morning who said

1054
00:52:17,719 --> 00:52:19,400
Speaker 1: that it was made very clear to him when he

1055
00:52:19,480 --> 00:52:22,680
Speaker 1: met with Art Rooney that he needs to stop hurting

1056
00:52:22,719 --> 00:52:25,399
Speaker 1: his trade value, but the way he's behaving right now,

1057
00:52:25,600 --> 00:52:30,040
Speaker 1: the social media truth serum that he seems to have

1058
00:52:30,400 --> 00:52:33,160
Speaker 1: or truth as he seems it, and not helping his

1059
00:52:33,239 --> 00:52:35,759
Speaker 1: cause in any way, and that the Steelers are absolutely

1060
00:52:35,880 --> 00:52:39,239
Speaker 1: not going to be held hostage by his antics or

1061
00:52:39,320 --> 00:52:42,520
Speaker 1: his behavior, and if they don't get what they feel

1062
00:52:42,640 --> 00:52:47,480
Speaker 1: is fair value, then he's not moving. So there's that.

1063
00:52:47,800 --> 00:52:50,239
Speaker 1: It only takes one suitor. Now, Look, they got a

1064
00:52:50,280 --> 00:52:54,080
Speaker 1: third round pick for Martavis Bryant when it was widely

1065
00:52:54,200 --> 00:52:57,719
Speaker 1: expected that Martavis Bryant was going to be facing or

1066
00:52:57,800 --> 00:53:01,759
Speaker 1: it was widely rumored he would be a long suspension.

1067
00:53:02,239 --> 00:53:07,000
Speaker 1: So the Steelers aren't going to misrepresent anything. Kevin Colbert

1068
00:53:07,080 --> 00:53:10,239
Speaker 1: has a fabulous reputation for being about as honest as

1069
00:53:10,280 --> 00:53:14,120
Speaker 1: anyone can be. He's always had the philosophy that these

1070
00:53:14,160 --> 00:53:16,320
Speaker 1: are the trade partners that he'll always need. It's not

1071
00:53:16,360 --> 00:53:18,000
Speaker 1: like he's selling a house and he can lie and

1072
00:53:18,080 --> 00:53:20,840
Speaker 1: never see these people again. He will be honest. But

1073
00:53:20,960 --> 00:53:23,000
Speaker 1: the Steelers aren't going to walk away from one of

1074
00:53:23,040 --> 00:53:25,600
Speaker 1: the single most dynamic players in the NFL, one of

1075
00:53:25,680 --> 00:53:29,080
Speaker 1: the single most productive wide receivers in the NFL, just

1076
00:53:29,280 --> 00:53:31,400
Speaker 1: for the sake of walking away from him. Have you

1077
00:53:31,440 --> 00:53:34,560
Speaker 1: spoken anybody? Bug? Let me stop, let me interrupt you

1078
00:53:34,640 --> 00:53:37,440
Speaker 1: for just one second. The flippart is, how is he

1079
00:53:37,640 --> 00:53:40,879
Speaker 1: possibly going to repair these bridges? Because he pretty much

1080
00:53:40,920 --> 00:53:43,960
Speaker 1: went nuclear this weekend, right, And I was going to

1081
00:53:44,000 --> 00:53:46,440
Speaker 1: ask you, what do you think the going price is

1082
00:53:46,520 --> 00:53:49,560
Speaker 1: for Antonio Brown? What one if none of this drama

1083
00:53:49,640 --> 00:53:52,239
Speaker 1: had happened, If he was a great guy and he

1084
00:53:52,360 --> 00:53:55,160
Speaker 1: came quietly to the Steelers after the season and he'd

1085
00:53:55,200 --> 00:53:58,000
Speaker 1: played Week seventeen and had all gone and he'd said, listen,

1086
00:53:58,120 --> 00:54:00,320
Speaker 1: I'm not going to play for you ever again unless

1087
00:54:00,320 --> 00:54:02,399
Speaker 1: you and I want to be traded, or I will

1088
00:54:02,440 --> 00:54:04,080
Speaker 1: not show up for training. You know, if he'd put

1089
00:54:04,160 --> 00:54:06,640
Speaker 1: him into the corner, what would be the going rate then,

1090
00:54:06,719 --> 00:54:09,160
Speaker 1: as opposed to what it is now. I don't think

1091
00:54:09,160 --> 00:54:11,160
Speaker 1: it's out of the realm of possibility to get a

1092
00:54:11,239 --> 00:54:14,239
Speaker 1: one for him. I mean, look, this is an off year,

1093
00:54:14,400 --> 00:54:16,359
Speaker 1: this is a down year. This is a year where

1094
00:54:16,400 --> 00:54:19,120
Speaker 1: we constantly talked about how the chemistry with Ben and

1095
00:54:19,280 --> 00:54:21,520
Speaker 1: him were bad, and he still led the league with

1096
00:54:21,560 --> 00:54:25,160
Speaker 1: fifteen touchdowns. I mean, no matter what you say about him,

1097
00:54:25,200 --> 00:54:30,080
Speaker 1: the guy's work ethic is absurd and ridiculous. He will

1098
00:54:30,320 --> 00:54:33,600
Speaker 1: always fight for every yard, He will always claw for

1099
00:54:33,719 --> 00:54:36,600
Speaker 1: every ball. The reason that Ben Roethlisberger has thrown such

1100
00:54:37,200 --> 00:54:40,000
Speaker 1: ridiculous passes his way, it's because he knows that Brown

1101
00:54:40,120 --> 00:54:41,839
Speaker 1: is going to do everything he can to catch the ball,

1102
00:54:41,920 --> 00:54:43,839
Speaker 1: and if he doesn't, he'll make sure nobody else does.

1103
00:54:44,400 --> 00:54:48,520
Speaker 1: So there's certainly value. Is he thirty one? Yes, But

1104
00:54:48,640 --> 00:54:51,120
Speaker 1: again I'm going to say it again, he works harder

1105
00:54:51,440 --> 00:54:54,120
Speaker 1: than anybody else I have ever been around, and that

1106
00:54:54,239 --> 00:54:58,000
Speaker 1: includes James Harrison. I don't think it's you just need

1107
00:54:58,120 --> 00:55:01,560
Speaker 1: one person to give you a one. That's it. And

1108
00:55:02,000 --> 00:55:04,480
Speaker 1: ideally that's what they're looking for. Maybe it's a two

1109
00:55:04,560 --> 00:55:06,640
Speaker 1: in a player, maybe it's a two in a low

1110
00:55:06,719 --> 00:55:08,840
Speaker 1: round pick. I don't think they're doing it for a

1111
00:55:08,960 --> 00:55:12,120
Speaker 1: three that one. Really don't. Indeede that one trade partner

1112
00:55:12,200 --> 00:55:16,080
Speaker 1: is going to have to ignore his age, his sabotage

1113
00:55:16,120 --> 00:55:18,160
Speaker 1: of the Steelers season at the end of the year,

1114
00:55:18,560 --> 00:55:21,640
Speaker 1: his kind of difficult contractual situation, and how much money

1115
00:55:21,640 --> 00:55:23,759
Speaker 1: it would cost him. I mean, that's a lot to

1116
00:55:23,840 --> 00:55:25,640
Speaker 1: ask for a team to kind of put all that

1117
00:55:25,760 --> 00:55:28,640
Speaker 1: aside just because the guy said good years And now look,

1118
00:55:28,719 --> 00:55:32,400
Speaker 1: I mean, the way his contract is is structured right

1119
00:55:32,440 --> 00:55:35,160
Speaker 1: now actually actually doesn't cost that much. I mean, you're

1120
00:55:35,160 --> 00:55:37,319
Speaker 1: really talking about twelve or thirteen million dollars a year

1121
00:55:37,360 --> 00:55:40,120
Speaker 1: for the next three years, which considering a production what

1122
00:55:40,280 --> 00:55:43,200
Speaker 1: wide receivers generally get is not that upsturd There's that

1123
00:55:43,360 --> 00:55:47,200
Speaker 1: piece up until even Art Rooney said, I mean, I personally,

1124
00:55:47,239 --> 00:55:50,080
Speaker 1: guys feel that this year was ridiculous. And if you

1125
00:55:50,200 --> 00:55:53,480
Speaker 1: want me to run through every single incident that Antonio

1126
00:55:53,520 --> 00:55:56,120
Speaker 1: Brown was involved with going back to OTAs, it would

1127
00:55:56,120 --> 00:55:58,719
Speaker 1: take the rest of our interview, but you can google it.

1128
00:55:58,800 --> 00:56:01,120
Speaker 1: I mean, it's a series of things. But even Art

1129
00:56:01,160 --> 00:56:03,280
Speaker 1: Rooney said it wasn't a distraction to the team until

1130
00:56:03,280 --> 00:56:05,960
Speaker 1: the last week of the season. I think what has

1131
00:56:06,000 --> 00:56:09,680
Speaker 1: to happen here is if the Steelers are truly genuinely honest,

1132
00:56:09,760 --> 00:56:13,120
Speaker 1: and if a team really does it's due diligence, you

1133
00:56:13,280 --> 00:56:16,440
Speaker 1: will see that there were a lot of mitigating circumstances

1134
00:56:16,600 --> 00:56:20,840
Speaker 1: this year. And the question becomes, is Antonio Brown truly

1135
00:56:20,960 --> 00:56:25,759
Speaker 1: a horrible person, a horrible human, or was he really

1136
00:56:25,920 --> 00:56:29,120
Speaker 1: just triggered this year by a series of circumstances. And

1137
00:56:29,200 --> 00:56:32,200
Speaker 1: if he has taken out of those circumstances, does he

1138
00:56:32,320 --> 00:56:35,080
Speaker 1: go back to being the Antonio Brown that up until

1139
00:56:35,120 --> 00:56:37,640
Speaker 1: a couple of years ago is what we absolutely knew,

1140
00:56:37,680 --> 00:56:42,960
Speaker 1: which was an incredibly hardworking, totally productive, constantly smiling young man.

1141
00:56:43,200 --> 00:56:46,680
Speaker 1: And I talked to someone who coached him for a

1142
00:56:46,760 --> 00:56:49,239
Speaker 1: long time yesterday and he said that he still really

1143
00:56:49,320 --> 00:56:52,160
Speaker 1: believes in Antonio. And he said the issue with Antonio

1144
00:56:52,280 --> 00:56:55,560
Speaker 1: is that he just needs loved. He needs to feel respected,

1145
00:56:55,800 --> 00:56:58,239
Speaker 1: he needs to feel appreciated. And I can tell you

1146
00:56:58,400 --> 00:57:00,839
Speaker 1: very confidently he didn't have either of this year from

1147
00:57:00,960 --> 00:57:03,160
Speaker 1: the people that he most needed it from. Yeah, but

1148
00:57:03,280 --> 00:57:05,120
Speaker 1: you certainly know who I'm talking about. Yeah. And I

1149
00:57:05,239 --> 00:57:06,919
Speaker 1: was going to say that that would leave it open

1150
00:57:07,000 --> 00:57:09,919
Speaker 1: to trying to pick out landing spots. And I'm trying

1151
00:57:09,920 --> 00:57:12,359
Speaker 1: to decide, would it take a team that has an

1152
00:57:12,480 --> 00:57:15,759
Speaker 1: established quarterback who can get Antonio Brown the ball and

1153
00:57:16,680 --> 00:57:19,360
Speaker 1: give him the catches that he desires, or if he

1154
00:57:19,520 --> 00:57:22,320
Speaker 1: goes to a team that doesn't throw the football well,

1155
00:57:23,480 --> 00:57:26,000
Speaker 1: or somebody else's the number one receiver or something like

1156
00:57:26,160 --> 00:57:28,880
Speaker 1: of that nature where he has to share the ball,

1157
00:57:29,200 --> 00:57:31,320
Speaker 1: would he go into the tank similar to what he

1158
00:57:31,400 --> 00:57:34,480
Speaker 1: did in Pittsburgh. And by what you said just a

1159
00:57:34,560 --> 00:57:36,720
Speaker 1: moment ago, you don't think that would be a problem.

1160
00:57:36,760 --> 00:57:39,720
Speaker 1: If he went to a team that wasn't as prolific

1161
00:57:39,800 --> 00:57:41,840
Speaker 1: as the Steelers, he'd be okay as long as they

1162
00:57:41,920 --> 00:57:45,280
Speaker 1: loved him. Well, maybe a little bit. But this is

1163
00:57:45,320 --> 00:57:48,520
Speaker 1: also where he's being unbelievably shortsighted, because let's be honest,

1164
00:57:48,560 --> 00:57:50,560
Speaker 1: if you've seen and Steve, you know that's because you've

1165
00:57:50,560 --> 00:57:55,000
Speaker 1: seen him up close. I don't know that anybody improvises

1166
00:57:55,640 --> 00:57:57,760
Speaker 1: to as much success or to as great of a

1167
00:57:57,880 --> 00:58:01,240
Speaker 1: degree as Ben Roethlisberger and Antonio Round. How many times

1168
00:58:01,280 --> 00:58:05,080
Speaker 1: have you seen Antonio Brown triple covered Ben Roethlisberger has

1169
00:58:05,160 --> 00:58:07,640
Speaker 1: no business throwing him the ball, and somehow they make

1170
00:58:07,720 --> 00:58:09,880
Speaker 1: up something on the flies of all goes Brown's way.

1171
00:58:10,240 --> 00:58:14,360
Speaker 1: Let's star happening with anybody else at nine years of

1172
00:58:14,520 --> 00:58:18,560
Speaker 1: chemistry that the two of them have some happ I mean, gosh, Steve,

1173
00:58:18,640 --> 00:58:20,120
Speaker 1: how many times have you watched the two of them

1174
00:58:20,120 --> 00:58:22,080
Speaker 1: and said, what the hell is he thinking throwing him

1175
00:58:22,120 --> 00:58:24,480
Speaker 1: the ball? And then how the hell did he catch

1176
00:58:24,560 --> 00:58:28,120
Speaker 1: that ball? I mean, seriously, right, doesn't that happen? Absolutely?

1177
00:58:28,560 --> 00:58:30,720
Speaker 1: Ben is going to the Hall of Fame for plays

1178
00:58:30,760 --> 00:58:34,680
Speaker 1: like that, seriously, And Antonio has made Ben look so

1179
00:58:34,800 --> 00:58:38,000
Speaker 1: good by catching balls like that. Even if Antonio is

1180
00:58:38,040 --> 00:58:41,160
Speaker 1: with Tom Brady, there is no way Tom Brady is

1181
00:58:41,200 --> 00:58:44,880
Speaker 1: putting up with Antonio improvising the way he is improvised

1182
00:58:45,200 --> 00:58:48,000
Speaker 1: here in Pittsburgh. I mean, you will catch Ben Roethlisberger

1183
00:58:48,000 --> 00:58:50,120
Speaker 1: when he's miked up or whatever, every so often saying

1184
00:58:50,160 --> 00:58:52,880
Speaker 1: that ab okay abe, just run the route as it's

1185
00:58:52,920 --> 00:58:55,080
Speaker 1: called like occasionally, just do what you're supposed to do.

1186
00:58:55,520 --> 00:58:57,840
Speaker 1: And you heard Ben say that this year about Juju

1187
00:58:58,200 --> 00:59:00,920
Speaker 1: when he's praising Juju and thing, I wish I threw

1188
00:59:01,000 --> 00:59:03,080
Speaker 1: the ball? Did you do four straight times after that

1189
00:59:03,200 --> 00:59:05,640
Speaker 1: pick in Denver to end the game? He also said

1190
00:59:05,640 --> 00:59:08,320
Speaker 1: of Juju, he said, he's always where you expect him

1191
00:59:08,360 --> 00:59:10,760
Speaker 1: to be, exactly when you expect him to be there.

1192
00:59:11,360 --> 00:59:14,480
Speaker 1: And if you don't think that that's in marked contrast Tantonio,

1193
00:59:15,240 --> 00:59:17,240
Speaker 1: I mean, it's a it's a it's the pros and

1194
00:59:17,280 --> 00:59:19,640
Speaker 1: the cons and it's their magic. It's their magic, and

1195
00:59:19,680 --> 00:59:23,480
Speaker 1: it's also their frustration with that. Go ahead, I'm going

1196
00:59:23,560 --> 00:59:24,960
Speaker 1: to take you to another way, But go ahead, you

1197
00:59:25,000 --> 00:59:27,320
Speaker 1: want to finish that point, please ADDI no, no, no, no,

1198
00:59:27,600 --> 00:59:30,800
Speaker 1: I mean there's I could I clearly obviously get quite

1199
00:59:30,880 --> 00:59:34,160
Speaker 1: riled up about this, And yeah, well, here's the thing,

1200
00:59:34,440 --> 00:59:36,760
Speaker 1: Steve and I were marveling at your sense of perspective

1201
00:59:36,800 --> 00:59:39,280
Speaker 1: a tweet that you put out late yesterday just about

1202
00:59:39,280 --> 00:59:41,960
Speaker 1: where the Steelers were going into the twenty seventeen season

1203
00:59:42,240 --> 00:59:44,240
Speaker 1: and where they are now. Can you kind of recap

1204
00:59:44,280 --> 00:59:46,240
Speaker 1: your thoughts on that, just how everything has changed for

1205
00:59:46,280 --> 00:59:49,640
Speaker 1: the Pittsburgh Steelers over the last couple of seasons. Now, okay,

1206
00:59:49,680 --> 00:59:52,280
Speaker 1: so if you recall in twenty sixteen, I would actually

1207
00:59:52,360 --> 00:59:54,720
Speaker 1: argue that the year that was sort of the biggest

1208
00:59:54,800 --> 00:59:58,120
Speaker 1: disappointment with two thousand and fifteen, they went to Denver

1209
00:59:58,360 --> 01:00:01,440
Speaker 1: in the second round of the playoffs. They didn't have

1210
01:00:01,480 --> 01:00:04,000
Speaker 1: Antonio Brown because Vantes Perfect had knocked him out, they

1211
01:00:04,000 --> 01:00:06,720
Speaker 1: didn't have Levion Bell, they didn't have D'Angelo Williams. They

1212
01:00:06,960 --> 01:00:10,600
Speaker 1: went up to Denver and should have won that game

1213
01:00:10,680 --> 01:00:13,480
Speaker 1: had they not had a late fumble by you know,

1214
01:00:13,640 --> 01:00:16,560
Speaker 1: a third string running back, and then Ben Roethlisberger also

1215
01:00:16,680 --> 01:00:20,200
Speaker 1: had a late not great move, but by all right,

1216
01:00:20,320 --> 01:00:22,880
Speaker 1: they could have won that game with essentially their C

1217
01:00:23,080 --> 01:00:25,640
Speaker 1: team in Denver, and Denver of course won the Super

1218
01:00:25,680 --> 01:00:27,760
Speaker 1: Bowl that year. But then fast forward to the next year,

1219
01:00:28,000 --> 01:00:29,920
Speaker 1: they take it one step further. They go to the

1220
01:00:29,960 --> 01:00:33,640
Speaker 1: AFC Title Game. Levion Bell, however, turns up lame. You know,

1221
01:00:33,760 --> 01:00:37,040
Speaker 1: a couple plays in, He's got a groin problem. Singings

1222
01:00:37,040 --> 01:00:39,880
Speaker 1: don't go right for the Steelers. If you recall Chris Hogan,

1223
01:00:40,000 --> 01:00:43,120
Speaker 1: just to absolutely tomp rading, Chris Hogan completely picked apart

1224
01:00:43,160 --> 01:00:45,840
Speaker 1: their Zoe defense. They lose in the AFC Title Game.

1225
01:00:46,200 --> 01:00:49,040
Speaker 1: But now you come to twenty seventeen. This is a

1226
01:00:49,080 --> 01:00:50,880
Speaker 1: team that arguably has one of the top two wide

1227
01:00:50,920 --> 01:00:53,080
Speaker 1: receivers in the game at Antonio Brown, as one of

1228
01:00:53,120 --> 01:00:55,080
Speaker 1: the arguably top two running backs in the game in

1229
01:00:55,160 --> 01:00:57,600
Speaker 1: Levion Bell, has a top five offensive line, has a

1230
01:00:57,680 --> 01:01:00,280
Speaker 1: two time Super Bowl winning quarterback in Ben Roethlis and

1231
01:01:00,360 --> 01:01:04,040
Speaker 1: has a defense that is absolutely littered with first round picks,

1232
01:01:04,280 --> 01:01:09,680
Speaker 1: and potentially an absolute game changer in linebacker at Ryan Shazier.

1233
01:01:10,000 --> 01:01:12,000
Speaker 1: And by the way, they were coming off an appearance

1234
01:01:12,040 --> 01:01:14,800
Speaker 1: in the AFC Title Game. Three consecutive years they've gotten

1235
01:01:14,800 --> 01:01:16,400
Speaker 1: to the first round of the playoffs, in the second round,

1236
01:01:16,440 --> 01:01:19,919
Speaker 1: then the AFC Title Game. It looked like this team

1237
01:01:20,040 --> 01:01:26,360
Speaker 1: was absolutely poised for Super Bowl number seven. Since then,

1238
01:01:27,680 --> 01:01:30,160
Speaker 1: Levian Bell has sat out an entire year said I'd

1239
01:01:30,240 --> 01:01:32,440
Speaker 1: rather not play for you than show up. I'm turning

1240
01:01:32,520 --> 01:01:34,680
Speaker 1: my back on fourteen and a half million dollars rather

1241
01:01:34,720 --> 01:01:37,800
Speaker 1: than play for you. Antonio Brown has said I want out.

1242
01:01:37,960 --> 01:01:40,480
Speaker 1: I don't want any part of this. And the Steelers

1243
01:01:40,920 --> 01:01:44,160
Speaker 1: have not won a playoff game. They were upset at

1244
01:01:44,280 --> 01:01:48,040
Speaker 1: home by the Jacksonville Jaguars last year, and this year,

1245
01:01:48,080 --> 01:01:49,800
Speaker 1: of course, you know, they didn't even make the playoffs.

1246
01:01:50,080 --> 01:01:54,240
Speaker 1: I mean, think about that turn, how quickly life changed,

1247
01:01:54,880 --> 01:01:57,600
Speaker 1: and losing Shazier, I'm not going to minimize that. Of

1248
01:01:57,720 --> 01:02:00,640
Speaker 1: course that affected things, but they also added is as well.

1249
01:02:01,160 --> 01:02:05,240
Speaker 1: Joe Hayden completely um stabilized that secondary to some degree.

1250
01:02:05,240 --> 01:02:07,240
Speaker 1: They had a big fat free agent signing in Margat

1251
01:02:07,280 --> 01:02:09,439
Speaker 1: Burnett last year. At safety, they have a first round

1252
01:02:09,520 --> 01:02:14,320
Speaker 1: corner and already Burns. You know this isn't he was,

1253
01:02:15,120 --> 01:02:17,920
Speaker 1: but you know that entire defense seve it's full of

1254
01:02:17,960 --> 01:02:21,480
Speaker 1: first rounders. But Duprie is a first rounder at outside linebacker, TJ.

1255
01:02:21,600 --> 01:02:23,440
Speaker 1: Watt is the first round pick. Cam Hayward is a

1256
01:02:23,480 --> 01:02:26,600
Speaker 1: first round pick. Jefntoa is a also up front is

1257
01:02:26,640 --> 01:02:29,040
Speaker 1: a second round pick. Already Burns a corner as the

1258
01:02:29,080 --> 01:02:31,720
Speaker 1: first round pick. These are a lot of picks that

1259
01:02:33,440 --> 01:02:37,000
Speaker 1: at this point in their career, two three, four years in,

1260
01:02:37,960 --> 01:02:42,320
Speaker 1: you're thinking this should be a completely dominant defense. I

1261
01:02:42,400 --> 01:02:45,240
Speaker 1: don't know. I mean, that's that's a whole other It's

1262
01:02:45,280 --> 01:02:49,400
Speaker 1: just I'm marveled at the fact that I really thought

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Speaker 1: the last few years that the way my job works, guys,

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Speaker 1: just personally, the way my job works is I'm a

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Speaker 1: national correspondent. I'm kind of regionally deployed because we all

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Speaker 1: live all the NFL that reporters live in different cities,

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Speaker 1: so we cover different regions. And the last few years

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Speaker 1: I haven't traveled much because the expectation with sort of

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01:03:07,400 --> 01:03:09,720
Speaker 1: the Steelers are so good and people care about the Steelers.

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Speaker 1: That's it. But the shoots in the matter is is

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Speaker 1: the last few years, I haven't traveled much because it's

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Speaker 1: been drama, drama, drama every single week. Yeah, I was

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Speaker 1: going to ask you about the reasons for their decline

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Speaker 1: or the surprising, you know, almost fall off a cliff.

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Speaker 1: You're right, they were playoffs, playoffs, championship game and then

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Speaker 1: poised with all this talent, and we've had this kind

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Speaker 1: of sideways conversation in Buffalo. We've got a head coach

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Speaker 1: in Sean McDermott who really puts a lot of stock

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Speaker 1: in culture. And for what you're telling me is that

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Speaker 1: the culture in Pittsburgh has dragged down the talent level

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Speaker 1: to a point where they can't even get in the playoffs?

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Speaker 1: Is there how much that falls on Mike Tomlin? Well,

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Speaker 1: if you, let's just quote him, because at the end

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Speaker 1: of the season, I asked him exactly that question and

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Speaker 1: he said all of it. He said it is his

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Speaker 1: job to set the tone, to set the culture to

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Speaker 1: that all of that comes back to him. So let's

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Speaker 1: see if there changed, does he take owner shake? Here's

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Speaker 1: mine Now, I wasn't here for all of this. The

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Speaker 1: first year that I moved here was I covered the

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Speaker 1: New York Giants, who wasn't super Bowl under Tom Coughlin

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Speaker 1: for the second time in twenty twelve, and then I

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Speaker 1: moved to Pittsburgh. That was right when the Steelers were changing.

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01:04:23,160 --> 01:04:29,040
Speaker 1: So their previous teams were full of self motivated, self

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Speaker 1: starting professionals. James Ferrier, Larry Foote, Why Paula Malu, Brett Keisel,

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Speaker 1: Hoke smith Ward, all of these guys were pros. That's

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Speaker 1: the only way that you can describe them. They came

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Speaker 1: to work. You didn't have to tell them you need

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Speaker 1: to show up to a meeting, you need to be

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Speaker 1: at a walkthrough. This is the time that we're sitting down.

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Speaker 1: I mean, can you imagine having to tell Larry Foote, hey,

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01:04:54,160 --> 01:04:56,120
Speaker 1: the meetings at two o'clock, make sure you're not late.

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01:04:56,480 --> 01:04:59,520
Speaker 1: Can you imagine having to tell Heine's word, there's a walkthrough.

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01:04:59,640 --> 01:05:02,200
Speaker 1: Please sure that you show up to the walkthrough. I mean,

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01:05:02,280 --> 01:05:05,760
Speaker 1: these were grown ups, they were professionals. And my first

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01:05:05,800 --> 01:05:08,040
Speaker 1: two years in Pittsburgh, the Steelers went eight and eight

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Speaker 1: both years, and it was I felt largely because they

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Speaker 1: had no veterans. It says if they moved on from

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01:05:15,480 --> 01:05:19,320
Speaker 1: everybody right away and there was no carryover, there was

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Speaker 1: no older guy in the locker room to sort of

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Speaker 1: teach the younger guys this is how you go about

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Speaker 1: your business. And there was instead the young Money Crew

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Speaker 1: at wide Receiver, Emmanuel Sanders, Mike Wallace, and Antonio Brownlet

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Speaker 1: just think about that. Think about a group within the

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Speaker 1: Pittsburgh Steelers organization calling themselves the Young Money Crew, and

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Speaker 1: that in itself is sort of jarring. So things changed

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Speaker 1: and Mike Tomlin, who has many, many, many fabulous traits

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Speaker 1: that make him one of the league's most successful coaches,

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Speaker 1: is also a guy that you know, doesn't really feel

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Speaker 1: it's his job to ride herd in the way that

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Speaker 1: a Tom Cofflin or Bill Belichick does. You know, he

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Speaker 1: feels like, you're grown ups up, do your job. But

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Speaker 1: the flip side to that is when there's not repercussions

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01:06:05,040 --> 01:06:07,640
Speaker 1: or censure for not showing up, then why should you

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01:06:07,680 --> 01:06:12,560
Speaker 1: have to show up? And so you're racked by guys

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Speaker 1: not showing up the meeting's not coming to walk through Facebook,

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01:06:15,400 --> 01:06:19,400
Speaker 1: living from a postgame winning locker room, having meltdowns on

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Speaker 1: the sideline with a coach not coming to a meeting, etcetera, etcetera, etcetera.

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Speaker 1: And you know, if you look at the Patriots. I

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Speaker 1: just had this conversation actually with a player on the

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Speaker 1: Steelers yesterday. He would probably say, and you, guys, Stephen Jay,

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01:06:38,640 --> 01:06:40,360
Speaker 1: you may know this better than me, But he said,

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Speaker 1: they're probably at least three or four teams that they

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Speaker 1: faced this year that were more talented than the New

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Speaker 1: England Patriots. But the New England Patriots finished the top

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01:06:52,680 --> 01:06:56,080
Speaker 1: of the league yet again because they are the absolute

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Speaker 1: best at not treating anybody differently. If Tom Brady gets

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01:06:59,640 --> 01:07:02,200
Speaker 1: yelled at, if Tom Brady is expected to work his

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01:07:02,320 --> 01:07:04,880
Speaker 1: tail off, how does anybody else not work his tail off?

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01:07:05,280 --> 01:07:10,000
Speaker 1: How does anybody else get away with crappy behavior? Right?

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01:07:10,480 --> 01:07:11,920
Speaker 1: I mean, it makes a lot of sense when you

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01:07:12,040 --> 01:07:15,440
Speaker 1: when you put it that way, and it's worked for them,

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01:07:15,480 --> 01:07:18,480
Speaker 1: and a lot of teams try and and here in

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01:07:18,520 --> 01:07:20,760
Speaker 1: Buffalo they're trying to do that exact same thing of

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01:07:20,840 --> 01:07:23,840
Speaker 1: putting everybody on that level where they're all held accountable

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01:07:23,880 --> 01:07:25,640
Speaker 1: by the guys in the locker room. And I agree

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01:07:25,640 --> 01:07:28,600
Speaker 1: with you, and help your locker room gets you more

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01:07:28,640 --> 01:07:31,400
Speaker 1: wins than a talented locker room. But I gotta ask

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Speaker 1: you this. Here in Buffalo, we're looking at the Pittsburgh

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01:07:34,880 --> 01:07:36,760
Speaker 1: Steelers and they've had a lot of success. They also

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01:07:36,800 --> 01:07:38,840
Speaker 1: have some guys that are leaving, Antonio Brown's being one

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01:07:38,880 --> 01:07:40,880
Speaker 1: of them. There's also a tight end that you have

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01:07:41,040 --> 01:07:43,560
Speaker 1: named Jesse James, who might be a free agent. Tell

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Speaker 1: us about him, because Buffalo is in them in the market.

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01:07:48,280 --> 01:07:51,240
Speaker 1: He is a kid or young man. I should call

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01:07:51,400 --> 01:07:56,400
Speaker 1: the kid constantly surprises you know, he's been written off

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01:07:56,880 --> 01:07:59,480
Speaker 1: in so many different ways. Oh he's really skinny. Oh

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01:07:59,600 --> 01:08:02,560
Speaker 1: he's not very fast. Oh he can't block, Oh he

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01:08:02,680 --> 01:08:06,000
Speaker 1: can't do this, And yet he always comes up with

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01:08:06,360 --> 01:08:09,640
Speaker 1: a play when you need him. He sink back to

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Speaker 1: that touchdown that should have been a touchdown against the

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Speaker 1: New England Patriots two years ago in December that ultimately

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01:08:16,080 --> 01:08:19,240
Speaker 1: changed the catch role. He's a guy that fights and

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01:08:19,400 --> 01:08:22,559
Speaker 1: clause for everything that he gets, and every single time

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Speaker 1: that he's been written off here, he's still produced somehow someway.

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Speaker 1: He's a very hard worker. He's a really good locker

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Speaker 1: room guy. He's someone that people enjoy as a teammate.

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Speaker 1: He's someone that Ben Roethlisberger has clearly created a connection

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Speaker 1: with and thought of and personally, I tell you, every

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Speaker 1: single one of my interactions is positive with him. I

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Speaker 1: think he's a good guy. I think he would be

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Speaker 1: a good get and I think that you would get

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01:08:46,720 --> 01:08:48,840
Speaker 1: at him and sort of say, well, he's not as

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01:08:48,880 --> 01:08:50,760
Speaker 1: big as this one and he's not as fast as

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01:08:50,800 --> 01:08:53,280
Speaker 1: that one, and Kenny actually do this, and he'll just

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01:08:53,320 --> 01:08:56,559
Speaker 1: surprise you with his productivity. Some guys just produce. They

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Speaker 1: just produce. That's it, and you can't really explain it.

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Speaker 1: Did thank you for this. You're right in the middle

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01:09:02,160 --> 01:09:04,400
Speaker 1: of one of the most interesting teams in the NFL

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01:09:04,560 --> 01:09:06,599
Speaker 1: right now, the Pittsburgh Steelers. I know that's not you're

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01:09:06,840 --> 01:09:08,400
Speaker 1: the only team you cover, but we thank you for

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01:09:08,520 --> 01:09:10,200
Speaker 1: kind of enlightening us on what's going on with that

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01:09:10,280 --> 01:09:12,960
Speaker 1: interesting Well. I certainly appreciate it, but I'll tell you this,

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01:09:13,080 --> 01:09:15,120
Speaker 1: I really hope that they come things down because I

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01:09:15,240 --> 01:09:19,320
Speaker 1: found a white hair a little while. I'm not blaming

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01:09:19,400 --> 01:09:22,599
Speaker 1: it on my husband, I'm blaming it on the Steelers probably,

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01:09:22,600 --> 01:09:24,679
Speaker 1: and it's probably more accurate to do that as well. Thanks.

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Speaker 1: All right, take care, guys. Thanks Ddi kink about a

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Speaker 1: NFL Network national correspondence. She joined us from Pittsburgh right

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01:09:32,280 --> 01:09:34,240
Speaker 1: in the middle of the turmoil with the Steelers. She

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01:09:34,360 --> 01:09:36,720
Speaker 1: joined us on the Subway Fresh Tank hotline presented by

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Speaker 1: Subway Restaurants proudably proud to be locally owned and operated.

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Speaker 1: It is such a different scenario to have the Pittsburgh

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01:09:44,960 --> 01:09:47,000
Speaker 1: Steelers surrounded by that much drama, you know. And she

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01:09:47,800 --> 01:09:49,400
Speaker 1: put it in perspective where they were a couple of

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01:09:49,439 --> 01:09:53,920
Speaker 1: years ago, excellent gunning for Super Bowls. One of the

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01:09:54,040 --> 01:09:55,920
Speaker 1: things when she described it that way, where they were

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Speaker 1: twenty sixteen going into twenty seventeen. What I took from

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Speaker 1: Metsy was, well, that's what it looks like when the

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Speaker 1: super Bowl window is closing. It has closed for the Steelers,

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01:10:05,080 --> 01:10:08,439
Speaker 1: wouldn't you say? With Bell gone and Brown probably soon

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01:10:08,520 --> 01:10:11,719
Speaker 1: to follow. Their offensive line is still very good, although

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01:10:11,800 --> 01:10:14,880
Speaker 1: one of their offensive lineman is a free agent, Ben

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01:10:15,080 --> 01:10:18,280
Speaker 1: is still very productive. They've still got Juju Smith Schuster.

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01:10:20,640 --> 01:10:22,479
Speaker 1: They've still got a lot of guys on their defense

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01:10:22,520 --> 01:10:26,479
Speaker 1: that can really play. So they're no. I don't think

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Speaker 1: they're going anywhere. Certainly, you can say what you want

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Speaker 1: about Antonio Brown and Levion Bell. They played well without

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Speaker 1: Levion Bell this year. I think they'll upgrade their running

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01:10:33,680 --> 01:10:35,880
Speaker 1: back spot this year in the off season, and I

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01:10:35,960 --> 01:10:41,040
Speaker 1: think they'll probably plug in another wide receiver and stay

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Speaker 1: productive with Ben Roethlisberger throwing it. So I know, I don't.

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Speaker 1: I don't think their window is closed at all. I think,

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Speaker 1: in fact, I think they may have a step forward

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Speaker 1: this year. Net year. I think the Browns might have

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01:10:52,479 --> 01:10:54,160
Speaker 1: something to say about that. But what do we what

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01:10:54,360 --> 01:10:58,960
Speaker 1: do we make of Roethlisberger's role? Clearly, Antonio Brown and

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01:10:59,040 --> 01:11:01,519
Speaker 1: Roethlisberger were it odds this year, and I think Addie

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01:11:01,680 --> 01:11:04,320
Speaker 1: pretty much indicated that that is the source of Brown's

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Speaker 1: issues this year. Maybe there are others as well. We

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Speaker 1: talked about the headstrong quarterbacks that you mentioned, you know,

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Speaker 1: the way Peyton Manning was, the way dam Marino was.

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Speaker 1: But that's going on right now with what you believe

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01:11:16,080 --> 01:11:19,040
Speaker 1: is a really talented Pittsburgh roster. What if anything, can

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01:11:19,200 --> 01:11:22,040
Speaker 1: Tomlin and Kevin Colbert the GM do about that? Can

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01:11:22,080 --> 01:11:24,160
Speaker 1: they rain in Ben and say, hey, you gotta be

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01:11:24,479 --> 01:11:26,439
Speaker 1: a better teammate for these guys. You need these guys.

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01:11:26,479 --> 01:11:28,320
Speaker 1: I wonder if that's I don't know, a path that

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01:11:28,400 --> 01:11:32,000
Speaker 1: they might pursue you. Maybe I think more so listen

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01:11:32,160 --> 01:11:34,479
Speaker 1: and I'll tell you this. Ben doesn't mind the drama.

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01:11:35,040 --> 01:11:38,040
Speaker 1: He doesn't mind being the center of attention. He likes

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01:11:38,080 --> 01:11:40,519
Speaker 1: being a quarterback of the Pittsburgh Steelers. He was talking

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Speaker 1: about retiring and then when it really got down to it,

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01:11:42,560 --> 01:11:43,800
Speaker 1: and he thought what it's going to be like when

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01:11:43,840 --> 01:11:46,720
Speaker 1: he's not the quarterback of the Pittsburgh Steelers. I'll tell

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01:11:46,720 --> 01:11:49,800
Speaker 1: you this, I've told you this a hundred times. Murphy

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01:11:50,000 --> 01:11:52,360
Speaker 1: rarely ends well for the great ones that right there,

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01:11:53,200 --> 01:11:56,360
Speaker 1: Ben Roethlisberger in Pittsburgh. I have a hard time seeing

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01:11:56,439 --> 01:11:59,000
Speaker 1: that end. Well, so are we approaching that end? Is

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01:11:59,040 --> 01:12:02,040
Speaker 1: that what you're saying? Well, I think nah, he can

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01:12:02,120 --> 01:12:04,160
Speaker 1: still play. I think he can. As long as he

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01:12:04,200 --> 01:12:06,640
Speaker 1: can play, it's good. You don't want it to end.

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01:12:07,080 --> 01:12:09,600
Speaker 1: But when it gets the point where they think, or

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01:12:09,680 --> 01:12:11,960
Speaker 1: somebody the perception is there's a lot of better options

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01:12:12,000 --> 01:12:15,160
Speaker 1: than Ben Roethlisberger, then it's gonna get ugly because Ben's

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01:12:15,160 --> 01:12:17,120
Speaker 1: not going to give that team to anybody else. He's

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01:12:17,120 --> 01:12:19,200
Speaker 1: certainly not going to give to Mason Rudolph their fifth

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01:12:19,280 --> 01:12:21,840
Speaker 1: round draft pick last year. He's not handing it or

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01:12:21,920 --> 01:12:25,160
Speaker 1: their third round draft pick. He's when they drafted that

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01:12:25,240 --> 01:12:29,720
Speaker 1: kid last year, Mason Rudolph. Ben Roethlisberger gripped it tight. Yeah,

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01:12:29,880 --> 01:12:31,320
Speaker 1: he was not gonna let it go. And I think

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01:12:31,640 --> 01:12:33,560
Speaker 1: maybe a little bit bit of this drama has to

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01:12:33,640 --> 01:12:35,920
Speaker 1: do with that. It is. I'm telling you, that is

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01:12:35,960 --> 01:12:38,000
Speaker 1: one quarterback who's a great one who it may not

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01:12:38,200 --> 01:12:40,320
Speaker 1: end well for in Pittsburgh. That's one of those guys

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01:12:40,360 --> 01:12:42,120
Speaker 1: that I've alluded to in a number of occasions, and

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01:12:44,320 --> 01:12:46,439
Speaker 1: I think they're gonna have to pry the football out

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01:12:46,479 --> 01:12:50,439
Speaker 1: of his hand. I look forward to that to watch that.

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Speaker 1: We thank indeed to kick a while from NFL and

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Speaker 1: ever for joining us. Steve and I coming back in

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Speaker 1: a moment. We're wanting to talk about Buffalo's quarterback and

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01:12:56,880 --> 01:12:58,360
Speaker 1: want to get more of your thoughts on that good

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01:12:58,400 --> 01:13:02,040
Speaker 1: conversation so far. Twitter poll more than seventeen hundred votes

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Speaker 1: so far, and it's a simple one. Is Josh Allen

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01:13:04,600 --> 01:13:06,960
Speaker 1: the guy for the Buffalo Bills. What do you think?

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01:13:07,080 --> 01:13:09,600
Speaker 1: Vote on Twitter? Sending a tweet, we may read it

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01:13:09,680 --> 01:13:11,640
Speaker 1: on the tweet sheet or give us a call at

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Speaker 1: eight three fifty toll free one eight eight eight by

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Speaker 1: fifty two five fifties. Josh Allen the Guy coming back

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Speaker 1: with more. One Bill's Live presented by Collida Health from

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Speaker 1: One Bills Drive. This is Buffalo Bills Radio. If you

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Speaker 1: think we talked about the Steelers too much that last week,

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Speaker 1: that last time, it was a steady diet of Steelers

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Speaker 1: the last week or so, we've talked a lot of

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Speaker 1: the Steelers are making news. You know, it's a wrong

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Speaker 1: kind of news. It's a kind of wrong kind of

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Speaker 1: is interesting form. You know, guys like us because you

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Speaker 1: got it's fun to talk about a train wreck, especially

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Speaker 1: where there's never a train wreck. There's a train wreck

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Speaker 1: that they are never a dumpster fire man. They seemed

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Speaker 1: like a hot mess. Ben's getting called out by his

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Speaker 1: teammates for being a bad teammate. You got guys just

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Speaker 1: tweeting out, going and going to meet with the owner.

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Speaker 1: Kevin Colbert. The GM said today they're gonna try to

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Speaker 1: trade Antonio Brown, but will not give him away. He said,

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Speaker 1: it's the trade does not benefit the Steelers. They won't

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Speaker 1: trade him. Okay, he says, Antonio Brown will not dictate

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Speaker 1: where he goes in a possible trade. But there are

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Speaker 1: teams they preferred not to trade him too. And that's

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Speaker 1: and that's chapter one. Chapter two is two reasons Steelers

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Speaker 1: are not going to franchise tag Leveon Bell. The fourteen

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Speaker 1: point five million dollars price tag is one reason, and

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Speaker 1: the other reason is the fact that James Connor and

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Speaker 1: Jalen Samuels were good. They don't need him, not for

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Speaker 1: fourteen point five I got it, and I get it too.

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Speaker 1: And he got to think about Levion Bell. He pat

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Speaker 1: literally walked away from fourteen point five million dollars last

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Speaker 1: year because he wanted to be a free agent, and

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Speaker 1: he's going to be a free agent. Now will he

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Speaker 1: ever get that fourteen point five back? The question is

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Speaker 1: he may get you know whatever, twenty five million dollars

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Speaker 1: guaranteed this year or in a two year, a four

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Speaker 1: year deal, or a four year deal worth eighty whatever

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Speaker 1: he wants. I don't know what it's going to be.

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Speaker 1: But would he have gotten it had he played this

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Speaker 1: year in Pittsburgh, had been a free agent at the

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Speaker 1: end of the year anyway, plus he would had the

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Speaker 1: fourteen million in his pocket. The question is would he

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Speaker 1: have made it through healthy? And if the Steelers knew

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Speaker 1: they were going to use him or I mean lose him,

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Speaker 1: would they have given him the football four hundred and

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Speaker 1: ninety seven times, you know, like run him into the

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Speaker 1: ground and made him worthless on the market. We've talked

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Speaker 1: about the Steelers a lot. We use a lot of

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Speaker 1: Steelers clips on the show. If you watch on MSG

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Speaker 1: you can see the video and the one we just

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Speaker 1: showed one of my favorites. It's Levian Bell. I wonder

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Speaker 1: if we can replay it. The front end of this

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Speaker 1: first eight seconds or so, Levian Bell is on the

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Speaker 1: sidelines yelling something, and Kevin Colbert is standing off right

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Speaker 1: to the side of him. Colbert's got to look on

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Speaker 1: his face like, get this guy out of here. If

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Speaker 1: we can show it again, just tell me if you

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Speaker 1: can read the Look at that's Kevin Colbert in the

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Speaker 1: black fast Now look at him. Watch his face as

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Speaker 1: Leabimbell's yelling right next to him. Yeah, he's like okay,

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Speaker 1: He's like, yeah, I just gonna stand here. I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: stand here. I'm not gonna acknowledge that. Yeah, I think

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Speaker 1: we talk about the Steelers too much, but that's where

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Speaker 1: it's It's unusual the drama in the league right now

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Speaker 1: as to wait for the combine to get here, right

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Speaker 1: and these they got to listen. They got two superstar

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Speaker 1: players that are getting that are pulling the ripcord on

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Speaker 1: that organization. Yes, a well respected organization. Yes, And you

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Speaker 1: asked add the question, I don't want to talk about

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Speaker 1: the Steelers rest of the afternoon. But Mike Tomlin has

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Speaker 1: a role to play here. Add almost indicated Tomlin doesn't

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Speaker 1: even acknowledge that he is in charge of didn't she

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Speaker 1: almost say he doesn't in charge of him? He took

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Speaker 1: chemistry and and uh and you know, trying to put

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Speaker 1: together a culture there. He took over a team that

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Speaker 1: didn't need that. They need it now. And I would

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Speaker 1: say this, if Tomlin wants to remain coach of the

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Speaker 1: Pittsburgh Steelers, what the third in the last one hundred

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Speaker 1: and fifty years or whatever, he better jump up and

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Speaker 1: start establishing his role. And this is what I'm doing

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Speaker 1: to create this culture, to restore restore the culture that

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Speaker 1: we used to have here. I don't know if he's

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Speaker 1: doing it, He's got to do it. He should be

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Speaker 1: doing it behind closed doors today this week. She did

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Speaker 1: say though, after the season they were she asked him

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Speaker 1: what role, you know, this culture thing had to do

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Speaker 1: and where it falls and what he role he took.

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Speaker 1: He said, it's all my fault. It is. He took

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Speaker 1: complete responsibility for the flame out around Levion Bell and

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Speaker 1: Antonio Brown. He says it's all his fault. Ultimately, it's

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Speaker 1: the head coach's job to get all his players pulling

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Speaker 1: in the same direction, and Tommy couldn't do that. And

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Speaker 1: I think he's working in a unique situation with a

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Speaker 1: quarterback who makes that difficult for him just by the

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Speaker 1: way he is with his teammates, So there's a lot

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Speaker 1: of cohesion that goes away because Ben is the quarterback there.

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Speaker 1: But you can't bench Ben. I mean, the guy is

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Speaker 1: a phenomenal player and he's been there for one two

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Speaker 1: Super Bowls, and it's just you gotta work around around it.

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Speaker 1: And Tomlin is probably doing his best to work around it.

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Speaker 1: But there's absolutely no down with you, Murph. He's got

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Speaker 1: to do something different this year than he has done

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Speaker 1: in the past couple of years, starting soon. All right,

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Speaker 1: enough about the Steelers Bills. Josh see the guy. That's

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Speaker 1: our question of the day, our talk with the topic

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Speaker 1: of the day. It's a Twitter poll that surprises me

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Speaker 1: in terms of the way it's playing out. Our Twitter

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Speaker 1: responded so far, and there's more than a thousand of

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Speaker 1: them so far, almost two thousand. When we asked the question,

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Speaker 1: is Josh Allen the guy for the Bills? Ninety percent

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Speaker 1: of our respondents think he is, forty eight percent say

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Speaker 1: yes absolutely, and forty two percent say he probably is.

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Speaker 1: Only eight percent say Josh Allen is probably not the guy,

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Speaker 1: three percent say no he is not. Let's hear from

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Speaker 1: you eight oh three oh five fifty toll free one

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Speaker 1: eight eight eight five fifty two five fifty Tom calling

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Speaker 1: from the west side. Tom, go ahead, you're on the

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Speaker 1: air with us. Good afternoon, gentlemen. I would say yes, absolutely,

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Speaker 1: And here's why. He's got the heart to win, the

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Speaker 1: desire to win. He'll do anything to win, and he's

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Speaker 1: smart enough to learn. Now. Being what he played in college,

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Speaker 1: they're asking him to do things that he didn't do,

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Speaker 1: so they need to coach him up first of all,

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Speaker 1: doesn't They need to build the offense around him, and

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Speaker 1: the offensive line is number one, but it's not because

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Speaker 1: of him throwing the long ball. You got to give

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Speaker 1: the receivers time to get down the field to catch

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Speaker 1: his long ball. Out of the above, there you go, time.

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Speaker 1: I mean, there's a lot of what a lot in there.

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Speaker 1: What you said, and whether I agree with every specific

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Speaker 1: thing or not, you're on the right track. I think

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Speaker 1: the offensive line has got to get fixed. Job one,

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Speaker 1: without question. There's too many spots up there that need

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Speaker 1: to play better, or to be upgraded, or to be

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Speaker 1: coached up better, whatever you want to say. However you

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Speaker 1: want to say it, however, they're going to get it done.

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Speaker 1: Their offensive line needs to be much better than it was.

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Speaker 1: A year ago, needs to play better or be different.

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Speaker 1: So and if that happens, Josh Allen absolutely will get better.

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Speaker 1: The wide receivers will absolutely get better. Lashawn McCoy will

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Speaker 1: I have a better year, and his backup and his

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Speaker 1: running mate will also be better. So all of that

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Speaker 1: stuff goes into that pot. And Tommy, you hit it

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Speaker 1: right on the head. I agree with you, and looking

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Speaker 1: for improvement. Look, new quarterbacks coach, new offensive line coach,

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Speaker 1: new receivers coach, the three integral areas where they really

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Speaker 1: got to get better. Charlie, I'm the line from Atlanta. Hello,

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Speaker 1: Charlie Welking to the show. Hey guys, Um, so I

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Speaker 1: was calling in to talk about the culture topic. And

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Speaker 1: I'm not going to hurt on the Steelers because, like

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Speaker 1: you said, we talked about it quite a bit. But right, um,

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Speaker 1: But so, I mean, I just think it's really interesting topic.

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Speaker 1: And you know, for all the scrutiny that the Bill's

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Speaker 1: got for the first eight weeks last year about you know,

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Speaker 1: trusting the process and culture because you know, when we're

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Speaker 1: getting blown out left and right, you know, because we're

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Speaker 1: deployed a talent a lot of areas. You know, the

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Speaker 1: Steelers with the past eighteen months, I think are a

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Speaker 1: good example of how important culture is to winning button

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Speaker 1: um outside. So what I want to talk about is

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Speaker 1: to so the culture of the team effects outside the

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Speaker 1: locker room and not as fan. One of my good

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Speaker 1: friends down here, Uh, he's from Pittsburgh Warner Race, and

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Speaker 1: he's a Steelers fan. You know, we watched a lot

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01:21:07,160 --> 01:21:09,040
Speaker 1: of football together this year and he was just getting

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01:21:09,080 --> 01:21:12,559
Speaker 1: crushed about what was happening. Uh, you know, for his team,

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Speaker 1: for his hometown team. It's not not not exactly why

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01:21:15,680 --> 01:21:18,880
Speaker 1: they're not not exactly that they were losing, but because

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Speaker 1: of why they were losing, because their best players were

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01:21:20,840 --> 01:21:23,360
Speaker 1: giving up on each other, given up on the team,

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Speaker 1: their coaches, and the in the fan base. And you know,

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Speaker 1: I thought about, you know, how the culture the Bills

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Speaker 1: throughout my lifetime as a Bills fan has affected me.

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Speaker 1: And you know, I'm twenty eight years old, so most

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Speaker 1: of my time as the fan was during the drought.

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01:21:36,000 --> 01:21:38,920
Speaker 1: So I saw plenty of losses. But that being said,

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Speaker 1: you know, it wasn't for me. It wasn't hard to

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Speaker 1: you know, insistently cheer on the team because you know,

1645
01:21:44,600 --> 01:21:47,320
Speaker 1: we had guys like you know, Fred Jack, Andy Wayne was,

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01:21:47,400 --> 01:21:49,800
Speaker 1: Ryan fis Patrick, you know guys that you know, it

1647
01:21:49,960 --> 01:21:51,960
Speaker 1: definitely did plenty of good things on the field, but

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Speaker 1: they were just they were a good guys. They played

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Speaker 1: their hearts up for each other, for the coaches, you know,

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Speaker 1: they you know, they cared about the fan base. And

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01:22:00,280 --> 01:22:03,360
Speaker 1: you know, even though I uncompetent in our current coaching

1652
01:22:03,400 --> 01:22:05,320
Speaker 1: staff in our front office to get things right. And

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01:22:05,880 --> 01:22:07,759
Speaker 1: you know, I definitely don't want to go through another

1654
01:22:07,800 --> 01:22:10,960
Speaker 1: seventeen years drought of the playoff the button um. You know,

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Speaker 1: I just I like what what we're building here. You know,

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01:22:14,560 --> 01:22:16,080
Speaker 1: one of the great things I like about listening to

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01:22:16,080 --> 01:22:18,559
Speaker 1: the show is you guys have all the players come

1658
01:22:18,600 --> 01:22:20,680
Speaker 1: on and just listen to them talking. They're just you know,

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01:22:21,439 --> 01:22:23,519
Speaker 1: they're good guys. They have good heads on their shoulders.

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Speaker 1: You know, they care about each other, They care about

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Speaker 1: their their coaching staff, the fan base. And you know,

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01:22:28,360 --> 01:22:30,200
Speaker 1: just me as a fan, you know that that stuff

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01:22:30,280 --> 01:22:32,120
Speaker 1: matters to me. You know, it matters who like not

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01:22:32,240 --> 01:22:35,200
Speaker 1: just the team I'm rooting for, but who I'm rooting for. Um.

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Speaker 1: And I'll wrap it up with, uh, you know, I

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Speaker 1: think us Steve, you yourself and a lot of your

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Speaker 1: teammates from back to the day, even though I was

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Speaker 1: too young to root for you guys on the field.

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Speaker 1: I think the fact that you and you know, Andre

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Speaker 1: Reid and Thurman Thomas, guys like you have stuck around

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01:22:50,720 --> 01:22:53,479
Speaker 1: way after you were done playing here, long after you

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01:22:53,520 --> 01:22:56,280
Speaker 1: know the Bills, you know company, and you still care

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01:22:56,320 --> 01:22:58,519
Speaker 1: about you know, the fan base, the community of the city.

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01:22:58,560 --> 01:23:00,800
Speaker 1: I mean, you know that stuff. I mean, that's what

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01:23:01,720 --> 01:23:03,799
Speaker 1: you know. Being a Bills fan is all about fulfilled

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01:23:03,840 --> 01:23:05,800
Speaker 1: youth pride, and I really care about that stuff. So

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Speaker 1: I'll let you guys give your feedback, all right, Charlie, Thanks,

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Speaker 1: I appreciate it. Thanks for the call. A lot in there. Yeah,

1679
01:23:13,280 --> 01:23:16,439
Speaker 1: but he's right, and that there is an element, although

1680
01:23:16,479 --> 01:23:20,160
Speaker 1: I can't say that that it out at Trump's winning

1681
01:23:20,600 --> 01:23:24,320
Speaker 1: for fans. I think there's a whole generation of people

1682
01:23:24,360 --> 01:23:28,840
Speaker 1: who grew up between nineteen ninety nine and twenty and eighteen, who,

1683
01:23:28,920 --> 01:23:32,120
Speaker 1: in their formative years or in their whole life went

1684
01:23:32,200 --> 01:23:35,800
Speaker 1: through a team and a time in the franchise history

1685
01:23:35,840 --> 01:23:38,000
Speaker 1: where that's all that you were left to cheer for

1686
01:23:38,200 --> 01:23:40,360
Speaker 1: was the good guys, right right, the guys you really

1687
01:23:40,400 --> 01:23:42,200
Speaker 1: liked cheer for the guys you had an affection for,

1688
01:23:42,479 --> 01:23:45,880
Speaker 1: you know, Ryan Fitzpatrick, Freddy Jackson, guys like that, you know,

1689
01:23:46,000 --> 01:23:50,760
Speaker 1: Kyle Williams, Guys who you knew were genuine great guys,

1690
01:23:50,840 --> 01:23:53,599
Speaker 1: Buffalo guys who kind of adopted the city and had

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01:23:53,640 --> 01:23:57,880
Speaker 1: the city adopt them. And and that was really the

1692
01:23:57,960 --> 01:24:00,360
Speaker 1: extent of what you had to cheer for during that time.

1693
01:24:02,479 --> 01:24:04,519
Speaker 1: But let me tell you something, It would have you

1694
01:24:05,600 --> 01:24:07,479
Speaker 1: most of well every single one of you, would have

1695
01:24:07,520 --> 01:24:09,040
Speaker 1: kicked all that to the curve if you'd just got

1696
01:24:09,080 --> 01:24:11,439
Speaker 1: to the playoffs, you know, every other year, every you know,

1697
01:24:11,520 --> 01:24:13,640
Speaker 1: two out of every three years or two out of

1698
01:24:13,680 --> 01:24:17,080
Speaker 1: every four years, something like that, you would have kicked

1699
01:24:17,080 --> 01:24:18,280
Speaker 1: it all to the curve for a chance to go

1700
01:24:18,360 --> 01:24:20,120
Speaker 1: to the playoffs and win it all. I mean, but

1701
01:24:20,520 --> 01:24:24,160
Speaker 1: because winning will trump all of that. Although one of

1702
01:24:24,200 --> 01:24:26,080
Speaker 1: the things I say about this culture thing now, Murph,

1703
01:24:26,360 --> 01:24:29,920
Speaker 1: is one of the reasons I believe they're building the

1704
01:24:30,000 --> 01:24:31,800
Speaker 1: team the way they are building it is because once

1705
01:24:31,840 --> 01:24:34,200
Speaker 1: they get to where they want to be, they believe

1706
01:24:34,240 --> 01:24:36,840
Speaker 1: it's going to be sustainable year after year after year.

1707
01:24:36,920 --> 01:24:40,240
Speaker 1: It's not going to be this roller coaster that that

1708
01:24:40,400 --> 01:24:43,200
Speaker 1: you've seen other teams and this one too be part

1709
01:24:43,240 --> 01:24:46,200
Speaker 1: of I Agree a break. We're back with more One

1710
01:24:46,240 --> 01:24:50,040
Speaker 1: Bills Live, presented by Callida Health. This is Buffalo Bills Radio.

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01:25:11,720 --> 01:25:13,560
Speaker 1: Welcome back to One Bill's Live. I'm John Murky. This

1712
01:25:13,560 --> 01:25:16,880
Speaker 1: is Steve Tasker. We're just laying out, playing out for

1713
01:25:16,960 --> 01:25:18,880
Speaker 1: a segment. We had about five minutes. Will lay out.

1714
01:25:19,600 --> 01:25:21,719
Speaker 1: Uh is Josh the guy? It's a pretty simple question.

1715
01:25:21,800 --> 01:25:24,479
Speaker 1: We got Jason lock on Fura from CBS Sports coming

1716
01:25:24,520 --> 01:25:25,960
Speaker 1: up a little bit after two to talk about it.

1717
01:25:26,040 --> 01:25:28,000
Speaker 1: But I like this topic, Steeve. I like this Twitter

1718
01:25:28,040 --> 01:25:31,600
Speaker 1: poll even now. Typically typically, and I think this is

1719
01:25:31,640 --> 01:25:34,320
Speaker 1: the Tasker rule. The measure of a great Twitter poll

1720
01:25:34,520 --> 01:25:37,880
Speaker 1: is how close the balloting is. Yeah, this is not

1721
01:25:38,040 --> 01:25:42,439
Speaker 1: the case today, and I think and I get it.

1722
01:25:42,520 --> 01:25:45,280
Speaker 1: We talked to Bill's fans, and Bill's fans are on board.

1723
01:25:45,320 --> 01:25:46,720
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, what are you gonna say? I mean,

1724
01:25:46,760 --> 01:25:50,400
Speaker 1: they're they teeter on the positive because they like their

1725
01:25:50,439 --> 01:25:52,000
Speaker 1: team and they want to think the best about it.

1726
01:25:52,080 --> 01:25:54,600
Speaker 1: So ninety percent of the people who respond say he

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01:25:54,680 --> 01:25:57,240
Speaker 1: at least probably is, if not absolutely. But I have

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01:25:57,360 --> 01:25:59,920
Speaker 1: to confess, based on doing the show, which we do

1729
01:26:00,120 --> 01:26:02,280
Speaker 1: every day, I thought that it would be more of

1730
01:26:02,320 --> 01:26:05,000
Speaker 1: a close vote. I thought that there were some elements

1731
01:26:05,040 --> 01:26:07,920
Speaker 1: of Bills fans who thought, I don't know about Josh.

1732
01:26:08,800 --> 01:26:11,200
Speaker 1: He's okay, I'm not there, but I thought there would

1733
01:26:11,200 --> 01:26:12,960
Speaker 1: be more people like that. We hear that on the show,

1734
01:26:13,000 --> 01:26:15,880
Speaker 1: We hear that a lot from media people, even some

1735
01:26:16,040 --> 01:26:18,479
Speaker 1: local media people are in that camp, and that's fine.

1736
01:26:18,720 --> 01:26:21,479
Speaker 1: I just thought it's not reflected at all in today's Twitter.

1737
01:26:21,520 --> 01:26:23,880
Speaker 1: I believe what my eyes tell me. And when he

1738
01:26:24,040 --> 01:26:26,080
Speaker 1: took over that team after he came back from his

1739
01:26:26,120 --> 01:26:32,000
Speaker 1: little elbow tweak, his presence in the huddle was transformative

1740
01:26:32,160 --> 01:26:36,400
Speaker 1: for the entire team. That's a little come on, transformative.

1741
01:26:36,400 --> 01:26:39,200
Speaker 1: It was. They were a completely different team to watch

1742
01:26:39,400 --> 01:26:43,840
Speaker 1: when he was taking snaps at quarterback. They were competitive

1743
01:26:43,920 --> 01:26:47,320
Speaker 1: offensively for the more so competitive offensively than they had

1744
01:26:47,360 --> 01:26:50,080
Speaker 1: been even when Tyrod Taylor was in the mix at

1745
01:26:50,120 --> 01:26:52,760
Speaker 1: starting quarterback that first year he came over, and they

1746
01:26:52,800 --> 01:26:56,080
Speaker 1: had a really pretty good offensive year, a solid offensive year.

1747
01:26:56,600 --> 01:26:59,880
Speaker 1: I don't know where they ranked on Tyrod's first season,

1748
01:27:00,000 --> 01:27:04,960
Speaker 1: but this this offense. When Josh stepped up and started playing,

1749
01:27:06,280 --> 01:27:08,080
Speaker 1: you just couldn't wait to see the guy play because

1750
01:27:08,120 --> 01:27:09,760
Speaker 1: you could see him getting better and better and better,

1751
01:27:09,800 --> 01:27:11,960
Speaker 1: and that meant, you know, then they plugged in Robert

1752
01:27:12,040 --> 01:27:14,120
Speaker 1: Foster and all of a sudden, okay, and I let's see, Wow,

1753
01:27:14,240 --> 01:27:16,880
Speaker 1: this is even better. Right, let's watch him play. Then

1754
01:27:16,920 --> 01:27:18,880
Speaker 1: it was you know, all this stuff started having and

1755
01:27:18,960 --> 01:27:21,040
Speaker 1: he and you can think back to all those games.

1756
01:27:21,240 --> 01:27:24,000
Speaker 1: It seemed like every game Josh started there was some

1757
01:27:24,200 --> 01:27:26,640
Speaker 1: sort of signature play that was like, hey, did you

1758
01:27:26,720 --> 01:27:28,599
Speaker 1: see that? You need more than that? And I would say, oh,

1759
01:27:28,640 --> 01:27:31,960
Speaker 1: I think you overstate the improvement. Right. He came back

1760
01:27:32,040 --> 01:27:34,960
Speaker 1: against Jacksonville, they won that game. He played well. At Miami,

1761
01:27:35,040 --> 01:27:38,080
Speaker 1: they scored a total of seventeen points. That that was

1762
01:27:38,160 --> 01:27:40,160
Speaker 1: not a you know, the lose to Miami as bad

1763
01:27:40,200 --> 01:27:42,760
Speaker 1: as Miami was. Um, they scored twenty three and lost

1764
01:27:42,800 --> 01:27:46,759
Speaker 1: to the Jets. Here they scored fourteen somehow beat Detroit

1765
01:27:47,040 --> 01:27:48,880
Speaker 1: and they scored twelve and lost to New England. The

1766
01:27:48,920 --> 01:27:51,360
Speaker 1: big production against Miami in the finale. Look, they were

1767
01:27:51,439 --> 01:27:54,240
Speaker 1: not an offensive powerhouse even when Josh came back. And

1768
01:27:54,360 --> 01:27:56,200
Speaker 1: I think that that goes to the point they didn't

1769
01:27:56,200 --> 01:27:58,599
Speaker 1: ever run game well. A lot going on the offensive

1770
01:27:58,640 --> 01:28:02,760
Speaker 1: line was bad. They They're receiving core was depleted and

1771
01:28:02,880 --> 01:28:05,200
Speaker 1: not playing well. So I just think you're overstating a

1772
01:28:05,320 --> 01:28:07,400
Speaker 1: little bit how good the offense was when Jess came back.

1773
01:28:07,439 --> 01:28:09,719
Speaker 1: In fact, I think you're overstating a lot. Wait a minute,

1774
01:28:09,720 --> 01:28:12,479
Speaker 1: When I did just say, I said, more fun to watch,

1775
01:28:12,720 --> 01:28:16,920
Speaker 1: it was more competitive. Um, let's face it. When he

1776
01:28:17,040 --> 01:28:20,360
Speaker 1: wasn't in there, they started two guys that weren't even

1777
01:28:20,400 --> 01:28:22,439
Speaker 1: on the team two weeks prior to their first start.

1778
01:28:22,960 --> 01:28:26,200
Speaker 1: They started four guys overall for the entire year. The

1779
01:28:26,280 --> 01:28:28,439
Speaker 1: guy they started was the opening day starter got cut

1780
01:28:28,720 --> 01:28:30,840
Speaker 1: as soon as they were made it possible for him

1781
01:28:30,840 --> 01:28:34,680
Speaker 1: to be cut. Um. So you know, you look at

1782
01:28:34,720 --> 01:28:36,120
Speaker 1: where they were at the beginning of the year, and

1783
01:28:36,200 --> 01:28:37,960
Speaker 1: it was a debacle in the first couple of weeks,

1784
01:28:38,040 --> 01:28:40,080
Speaker 1: remember in House, and and then when he took over

1785
01:28:40,120 --> 01:28:43,599
Speaker 1: and got it into Minnesota, then you kind of started

1786
01:28:43,600 --> 01:28:46,200
Speaker 1: to say, okay, well, okay, see we're not We're not

1787
01:28:46,280 --> 01:28:48,439
Speaker 1: an atrocity. You know, at least he gives us a

1788
01:28:48,520 --> 01:28:52,840
Speaker 1: chance to be competitive. Yeah, I just six in Green Bay.

1789
01:28:52,840 --> 01:28:56,160
Speaker 1: I mean right, yeah, I mean they weren't a competitive team,

1790
01:28:56,200 --> 01:28:58,920
Speaker 1: but I thought they were compelling to watch, and a

1791
01:28:58,960 --> 01:29:02,960
Speaker 1: lot of it wasn't Josh. Maybe not when I say transformative.

1792
01:29:03,439 --> 01:29:06,200
Speaker 1: That doesn't mean transformative in a statistical sense, but certainly

1793
01:29:07,520 --> 01:29:11,559
Speaker 1: the attitudes were transformed. Fun to watch, oh my gosh, everything, well,

1794
01:29:11,640 --> 01:29:14,160
Speaker 1: yeah they were. How unfun were they to watch Opening

1795
01:29:14,280 --> 01:29:16,839
Speaker 1: Day in Baltimore and rain storm when they got crushed

1796
01:29:17,240 --> 01:29:23,000
Speaker 1: forty seven to what three? Yes, exactly forty seven to three.

1797
01:29:23,680 --> 01:29:27,559
Speaker 1: How unfun was that? That un It was so unfun.

1798
01:29:28,040 --> 01:29:31,360
Speaker 1: And then at the end of the season it was

1799
01:29:31,439 --> 01:29:34,320
Speaker 1: everything but unfun. It was a blast to watch those guys.

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01:29:34,360 --> 01:29:38,080
Speaker 1: It's seventeen points or fourteen points, six points, whatever it was.

1801
01:29:38,680 --> 01:29:40,880
Speaker 1: They were fun. And like I said, there was always

1802
01:29:40,880 --> 01:29:44,200
Speaker 1: that one moment in every game they played with him

1803
01:29:44,240 --> 01:29:47,519
Speaker 1: in there that was like, wow, look at that guy.

1804
01:29:47,680 --> 01:29:50,720
Speaker 1: You know what I mean? The hurtling game in Minnesota,

1805
01:29:51,040 --> 01:29:53,439
Speaker 1: the throw at Jacksonville when he when he stood in

1806
01:29:53,479 --> 01:29:55,320
Speaker 1: the pocket and let it go. He thought he'd waited

1807
01:29:55,360 --> 01:29:57,479
Speaker 1: too long. You put me in position of pocon holes.

1808
01:29:57,479 --> 01:30:00,240
Speaker 1: In Josh's rookie season, which is I don't like him

1809
01:30:00,240 --> 01:30:01,800
Speaker 1: because I think he was outstanding, but he did not

1810
01:30:01,840 --> 01:30:04,200
Speaker 1: play well at Green Bay See. I did not play well.

1811
01:30:04,560 --> 01:30:07,000
Speaker 1: He didn't play well. I can't remember. They beat Tennessee

1812
01:30:07,080 --> 01:30:10,040
Speaker 1: by a point Um, you know he got hurt of

1813
01:30:10,080 --> 01:30:13,160
Speaker 1: Houston was not playing great in that game either. Um. Yeah,

1814
01:30:13,280 --> 01:30:14,880
Speaker 1: the cigares you played that game was when he got

1815
01:30:14,960 --> 01:30:17,280
Speaker 1: hurt and he made a nice throw. I just don't

1816
01:30:17,320 --> 01:30:19,400
Speaker 1: want you to overstate it. It was fun for sure,

1817
01:30:20,000 --> 01:30:23,439
Speaker 1: they were competitive at times. They got better as the

1818
01:30:23,479 --> 01:30:26,000
Speaker 1: season went along, but I don't I don't want to

1819
01:30:26,040 --> 01:30:28,000
Speaker 1: overstate it and say the offense was good last year.

1820
01:30:28,000 --> 01:30:31,160
Speaker 1: It was not. I said they were transformed when he

1821
01:30:31,240 --> 01:30:34,800
Speaker 1: got in the huddle, slightly from where it now they were.

1822
01:30:34,920 --> 01:30:40,479
Speaker 1: They didn't become great, but they did they Okay, they

1823
01:30:40,560 --> 01:30:45,000
Speaker 1: went from yet awful? Was they went from a dumpster fire? Yes,

1824
01:30:45,280 --> 01:30:47,679
Speaker 1: to oh wow, this is kind of fun to watch.

1825
01:30:47,960 --> 01:30:51,839
Speaker 1: That's a long jump. Maybe it is. Frank and Webster,

1826
01:30:51,960 --> 01:30:53,880
Speaker 1: get us out of this. Frank, we're getting bogged down.

1827
01:30:53,960 --> 01:30:59,280
Speaker 1: And Frank, what do you think? All I do think

1828
01:31:00,479 --> 01:31:03,519
Speaker 1: Josh Allen is a quarterback of the future. You know,

1829
01:31:03,600 --> 01:31:08,880
Speaker 1: I want to obviously see next year. Um. I tried

1830
01:31:08,960 --> 01:31:12,000
Speaker 1: calling you guys uh last week, but the phones were

1831
01:31:12,040 --> 01:31:18,120
Speaker 1: on the blank. But wanted to ask specifically about Jonah Williams,

1832
01:31:18,360 --> 01:31:24,160
Speaker 1: the offensive tackle from Alabama that's uh supposed to be

1833
01:31:24,240 --> 01:31:30,280
Speaker 1: a once in a decade offensive lineman, and I hope

1834
01:31:30,360 --> 01:31:33,000
Speaker 1: that we pick them at nine because I think it

1835
01:31:33,120 --> 01:31:36,360
Speaker 1: all starts with a big guys up front. I agree

1836
01:31:36,880 --> 01:31:39,840
Speaker 1: with what you were saying yesterday, Steve, one hundred percent

1837
01:31:40,640 --> 01:31:46,720
Speaker 1: that um that uh you know, it's uh, we need

1838
01:31:46,840 --> 01:31:53,800
Speaker 1: to address the offensive line immediately. And just with just

1839
01:31:53,960 --> 01:31:57,200
Speaker 1: with last year, you know when we lost Eric Wood

1840
01:31:57,320 --> 01:32:01,479
Speaker 1: and Courty Glenn and uh, we're incognito. I mean we

1841
01:32:01,800 --> 01:32:05,960
Speaker 1: couldn't run a lick. And also it seemed to me

1842
01:32:06,160 --> 01:32:10,120
Speaker 1: that Josh Ellen only had like one point two seconds

1843
01:32:10,240 --> 01:32:13,040
Speaker 1: to get rid of the ball before he was, you know,

1844
01:32:13,320 --> 01:32:16,439
Speaker 1: under pressure. And I don't know if you guys know

1845
01:32:16,560 --> 01:32:22,120
Speaker 1: anything about Jonah Williams South Alabama, but several draft boards

1846
01:32:22,240 --> 01:32:25,320
Speaker 1: got us picking him at nine. Yeah, I can see that.

1847
01:32:25,439 --> 01:32:27,760
Speaker 1: I don't know much about him and I haven't. I

1848
01:32:27,800 --> 01:32:30,920
Speaker 1: saw Alabama played, but I didn't focus on him. I

1849
01:32:31,040 --> 01:32:32,880
Speaker 1: know he's highly regarded one of the top tackles. I

1850
01:32:33,520 --> 01:32:36,280
Speaker 1: think there's a lot of love for the Bills with

1851
01:32:36,720 --> 01:32:38,960
Speaker 1: Dalton Risner, who was at the Senior Bowl. And I

1852
01:32:39,040 --> 01:32:40,920
Speaker 1: think that because I kind of witnessed some of that

1853
01:32:41,400 --> 01:32:44,120
Speaker 1: and talked to Risner about it. He did an interview

1854
01:32:44,160 --> 01:32:45,640
Speaker 1: with US at the end of the Senior Bowl, saying, now,

1855
01:32:45,880 --> 01:32:48,639
Speaker 1: he did have meeting time with the Bills and mobile

1856
01:32:48,880 --> 01:32:51,160
Speaker 1: Dalton Risner is a pretty good tackle. I think maybe

1857
01:32:51,240 --> 01:32:54,040
Speaker 1: more of a right tackle candidate from Kansas State. But yeah,

1858
01:32:56,400 --> 01:32:59,599
Speaker 1: they have I do think they're gonna pick an offensive

1859
01:32:59,640 --> 01:33:02,600
Speaker 1: lineman with early picks in this draft, whether it's the

1860
01:33:02,640 --> 01:33:04,880
Speaker 1: first pick or not. I think that's really what they're

1861
01:33:04,880 --> 01:33:07,559
Speaker 1: gonna look at for their first couple of picks. Steve, Oh. Yeah,

1862
01:33:07,680 --> 01:33:09,800
Speaker 1: And it doesn't mean they're actually and get him. He

1863
01:33:09,880 --> 01:33:12,360
Speaker 1: six five, three hundred and one pounds. He's born in

1864
01:33:12,479 --> 01:33:17,439
Speaker 1: nineteen ninety seven. He's obviously big enough. I don't know

1865
01:33:17,560 --> 01:33:19,639
Speaker 1: that much about him either. But here's the thing as well,

1866
01:33:19,880 --> 01:33:21,599
Speaker 1: you don't know for sure if the Bills are gonna

1867
01:33:21,760 --> 01:33:23,360
Speaker 1: gonna pick it nine. We were talking about this today,

1868
01:33:23,360 --> 01:33:25,280
Speaker 1: and we're gonna get a ton of mock drafts. Every

1869
01:33:25,320 --> 01:33:29,760
Speaker 1: website's got him, every expert's got him. They're an absolute

1870
01:33:29,800 --> 01:33:34,240
Speaker 1: waste of time because the draft order, although it's set,

1871
01:33:34,720 --> 01:33:36,439
Speaker 1: is not going to stay where it is, and once

1872
01:33:36,520 --> 01:33:38,439
Speaker 1: you make one trade up above where you thought you

1873
01:33:38,479 --> 01:33:41,240
Speaker 1: were gonna pick, it's all off the hook. Anyway, so,

1874
01:33:41,400 --> 01:33:43,160
Speaker 1: I mean, I get it. It's a great way to

1875
01:33:43,280 --> 01:33:45,320
Speaker 1: keep a thumbnail on what each team kind of needs

1876
01:33:45,360 --> 01:33:47,639
Speaker 1: and what they're looking for. Certainly the Bills are looking

1877
01:33:47,680 --> 01:33:50,000
Speaker 1: for offensive lineman. But here's the thing as well, we

1878
01:33:50,080 --> 01:33:52,200
Speaker 1: don't even know who they're gonna sign in free agency.

1879
01:33:52,560 --> 01:33:54,960
Speaker 1: That's also going to have a big effect on who

1880
01:33:55,040 --> 01:33:57,960
Speaker 1: they draft coming up on draft Day. Their hope is,

1881
01:33:58,200 --> 01:34:01,040
Speaker 1: like every other team, that they can fill enough holes

1882
01:34:01,160 --> 01:34:04,080
Speaker 1: with quality players in free agency so that when the

1883
01:34:04,200 --> 01:34:08,160
Speaker 1: draft comes, no matter what position is available, the best

1884
01:34:08,320 --> 01:34:10,320
Speaker 1: guy on the board is the one they can take.

1885
01:34:10,560 --> 01:34:13,439
Speaker 1: Whether he's a safety or running back, whether he's a

1886
01:34:13,840 --> 01:34:17,360
Speaker 1: tight end, a wide receiver, linebacker, defensive tackle, edge rusher,

1887
01:34:18,640 --> 01:34:21,880
Speaker 1: or an offensive tackle, whatever it is, they want to

1888
01:34:21,960 --> 01:34:24,240
Speaker 1: just take the guy that is absolutely sure fire the

1889
01:34:24,320 --> 01:34:26,720
Speaker 1: best NFL player on the board left, no matter what

1890
01:34:26,840 --> 01:34:28,560
Speaker 1: position he takes. That's where they hope to get in

1891
01:34:28,640 --> 01:34:31,519
Speaker 1: free agency. And if they're able to do that, they

1892
01:34:31,560 --> 01:34:34,439
Speaker 1: don't need an offensive tackle so much. There may be

1893
01:34:34,520 --> 01:34:36,640
Speaker 1: something else they need better, or a guy who's a

1894
01:34:36,680 --> 01:34:39,719
Speaker 1: better player at his position than Jonah Williams, the offensive

1895
01:34:39,760 --> 01:34:42,679
Speaker 1: tackle from Alabama. Is it his So that's where you're

1896
01:34:42,720 --> 01:34:45,960
Speaker 1: looking at Frank and I get it. Everybody's starting to

1897
01:34:46,040 --> 01:34:48,680
Speaker 1: turn their eyes on these young players, but you have

1898
01:34:48,920 --> 01:34:52,000
Speaker 1: to wait and see what happens in free agency to

1899
01:34:52,160 --> 01:34:55,519
Speaker 1: know exactly maybe where the glaring depth still is on

1900
01:34:55,640 --> 01:34:58,800
Speaker 1: the team, It may be different than where it is today.

1901
01:34:59,120 --> 01:35:01,840
Speaker 1: Jason Locom from CBS Sports dot Com is coming up

1902
01:35:01,840 --> 01:35:04,000
Speaker 1: in the next hour. We're gonna turn our attention to

1903
01:35:04,120 --> 01:35:06,559
Speaker 1: some of these young players, these draft prospects next week

1904
01:35:06,800 --> 01:35:08,519
Speaker 1: when we take the show on the road again. We're

1905
01:35:08,520 --> 01:35:12,720
Speaker 1: going to Indianapolis, Indiana, at the Downtown Convention Center for

1906
01:35:12,840 --> 01:35:16,560
Speaker 1: the NFL Scouting Combine next Wednesday, Thursday Friday. Will be

1907
01:35:16,600 --> 01:35:19,799
Speaker 1: there a week from today Wednesday, February twenty seventh through Friday,

1908
01:35:19,880 --> 01:35:23,080
Speaker 1: March first three shows Steve and I from Downtown Indie.

1909
01:35:23,120 --> 01:35:25,040
Speaker 1: One Bills Live on the Road at the Scouting Combine

1910
01:35:25,280 --> 01:35:28,280
Speaker 1: starting next Wednesday, coming back with more One Bills Live

1911
01:35:28,479 --> 01:35:31,080
Speaker 1: from One Bills Drive and this is Buffalo Bills Radio.

1912
01:35:42,360 --> 01:35:47,080
Speaker 1: Falo Bills Radio Network stories updates have the update coming

1913
01:35:47,200 --> 01:35:49,519
Speaker 1: from One Bill's Drive, but not much news coming out

1914
01:35:49,560 --> 01:35:52,040
Speaker 1: of One Bill's Drive. Sabers in the news a little bit.

1915
01:35:52,120 --> 01:35:54,400
Speaker 1: Sabers lost their third in a row last night. With

1916
01:35:54,479 --> 01:35:57,719
Speaker 1: the four to two loss to the Florida Panthers in Sunrise, Florida.

1917
01:35:57,800 --> 01:36:01,960
Speaker 1: Sabers GM Jason Botrell asked today whether coaching changes on

1918
01:36:02,080 --> 01:36:05,120
Speaker 1: the table. He said, no, no coaching change on the table.

1919
01:36:05,160 --> 01:36:07,360
Speaker 1: He says, our management staff is looking very hard over

1920
01:36:07,400 --> 01:36:09,800
Speaker 1: the next week to make moves. If it happens, great,

1921
01:36:09,840 --> 01:36:11,720
Speaker 1: If not, then we're looking over the next couple of

1922
01:36:11,800 --> 01:36:15,160
Speaker 1: months to make moves. The NFL NHL trade deadline is

1923
01:36:15,320 --> 01:36:17,840
Speaker 1: next Monday. By the way, the Instagrams will have a

1924
01:36:17,920 --> 01:36:19,560
Speaker 1: five hour show. Steve and I will not be on

1925
01:36:19,600 --> 01:36:21,759
Speaker 1: the air next Monday to make way for the NHL

1926
01:36:21,800 --> 01:36:24,479
Speaker 1: trade deadline. Sabers wrapping up their road trip in Florida

1927
01:36:24,479 --> 01:36:27,559
Speaker 1: tomorrow night in Tampa face off schedule for seven thirty

1928
01:36:27,600 --> 01:36:29,720
Speaker 1: after the loss third in a row four to two

1929
01:36:30,120 --> 01:36:33,719
Speaker 1: last night for the Sabers in Sunrise, Florida. UB Bulls

1930
01:36:33,760 --> 01:36:36,920
Speaker 1: have their twenty nineteen football schedule out today. They open

1931
01:36:36,960 --> 01:36:39,960
Speaker 1: at home against Robert Morris on Thursday, August twenty ninth,

1932
01:36:40,720 --> 01:36:43,840
Speaker 1: and then they travel to Penn State on September seventh,

1933
01:36:43,880 --> 01:36:46,600
Speaker 1: fourth time, the Bulls will play the Nitney Lions. Following that,

1934
01:36:46,720 --> 01:36:50,799
Speaker 1: you be on the road again at Liberty University September fourteenth,

1935
01:36:51,080 --> 01:36:53,519
Speaker 1: and then one more non conference game at home September

1936
01:36:53,560 --> 01:36:56,080
Speaker 1: twenty first against Temple. The rest of their eight games

1937
01:36:56,080 --> 01:36:58,880
Speaker 1: against min American conference foes. Final three games of the

1938
01:36:58,920 --> 01:37:01,559
Speaker 1: season for the UB foot Ball Bulls will be weeknight

1939
01:37:01,640 --> 01:37:05,160
Speaker 1: games played on national television. College Basketball. Tonight, Saint Bono

1940
01:37:05,200 --> 01:37:06,840
Speaker 1: Dutch your home with the Riley send their seven o'clock

1941
01:37:06,880 --> 01:37:09,360
Speaker 1: tip off against LaSalle. They've won three of their last

1942
01:37:09,400 --> 01:37:11,240
Speaker 1: four or five of the last seven. Saint Bono Dutcher

1943
01:37:11,479 --> 01:37:14,120
Speaker 1: hopes to keep that momentum going tonight against the La

1944
01:37:14,200 --> 01:37:17,480
Speaker 1: Salle Explorers and the big national game tonight Duke in Carolina.

1945
01:37:17,880 --> 01:37:21,080
Speaker 1: It's an acc huge matchup the top ranked Duke Blue

1946
01:37:21,080 --> 01:37:23,599
Speaker 1: Devils against eighth frank North Carolina. They able to play

1947
01:37:23,640 --> 01:37:27,280
Speaker 1: at Cameron Indoor Stadium. Tip off nine o'clock tonight at

1948
01:37:28,600 --> 01:37:31,559
Speaker 1: Duke University of Carolina and Duke And one sad note

1949
01:37:31,600 --> 01:37:34,600
Speaker 1: from baseball, Former Dodgers pitching great Don Nuncombe died. The

1950
01:37:34,640 --> 01:37:37,920
Speaker 1: announcement came yesterday after a lengthy illness. He was ninety

1951
01:37:37,960 --> 01:37:40,400
Speaker 1: two years old. One of the first African American pitchers

1952
01:37:40,439 --> 01:37:43,360
Speaker 1: in Major League Baseball, joined the Brooklyn Dodgers in nineteen

1953
01:37:43,439 --> 01:37:47,160
Speaker 1: forty nine. Don Knucombe passed away yesterday. That's the update

1954
01:37:47,400 --> 01:37:50,040
Speaker 1: from One Bill's Drive. John Murphy seve tasker in our

1955
01:37:50,080 --> 01:37:52,759
Speaker 1: one Buffalo studio, here to talk football when it seems

1956
01:37:52,760 --> 01:37:54,439
Speaker 1: like there's not a whole lot to talk about in football.

1957
01:37:54,439 --> 01:37:55,760
Speaker 1: We've got a good guest that I was gonna get

1958
01:37:55,760 --> 01:37:58,240
Speaker 1: things going. Frequent guest on the show. Happy to have him.

1959
01:37:58,439 --> 01:38:02,640
Speaker 1: CBS Sports, NFL Insider contributor to NFL Today. Happy to

1960
01:38:02,720 --> 01:38:06,240
Speaker 1: have Jason Lacanfa on the subway fresh take outline. Hello, Jason,

1961
01:38:06,320 --> 01:38:08,680
Speaker 1: John Murphy's deep tasker up here in Buffalo. Thank you

1962
01:38:08,720 --> 01:38:11,240
Speaker 1: for joining us today. Hey, how's it going, guys? Good?

1963
01:38:11,880 --> 01:38:13,599
Speaker 1: Can I ask you a baseball question? I know you're

1964
01:38:13,600 --> 01:38:16,560
Speaker 1: a bit yeah, yeah, just any I was kind of

1965
01:38:16,640 --> 01:38:19,360
Speaker 1: moved today by don nucom and obviously a little bit

1966
01:38:19,439 --> 01:38:21,040
Speaker 1: younger than his era, but I know he was an

1967
01:38:21,080 --> 01:38:23,560
Speaker 1: important figure in Major League Baseball history back in the

1968
01:38:23,640 --> 01:38:28,800
Speaker 1: Jackie Robinson era. Wasn't he absolutely? Absolutely? Um? And unfortunately

1969
01:38:29,479 --> 01:38:31,840
Speaker 1: um it. You know, it was only what a week

1970
01:38:31,960 --> 01:38:34,160
Speaker 1: or so ago that we lost Frank Robinson as well,

1971
01:38:34,240 --> 01:38:38,360
Speaker 1: and that's sort of greatest generation. I think we really are,

1972
01:38:38,520 --> 01:38:42,280
Speaker 1: unfortunately now being able to count on one hand. Um,

1973
01:38:42,479 --> 01:38:45,360
Speaker 1: in some cases some of these icons still left, and

1974
01:38:45,640 --> 01:38:48,479
Speaker 1: people who paid such a very real price to simply

1975
01:38:48,600 --> 01:38:52,080
Speaker 1: pursue our athletic goals at a time when um, there

1976
01:38:52,120 --> 01:38:55,519
Speaker 1: were countless reasons why people you know, found to exclude

1977
01:38:55,600 --> 01:39:00,920
Speaker 1: people based on race and other factors as well. Um.

1978
01:39:01,040 --> 01:39:02,880
Speaker 1: So yeah, I mean, I hope people take the time

1979
01:39:02,920 --> 01:39:04,960
Speaker 1: to go back, and you know, I try to get

1980
01:39:05,080 --> 01:39:08,920
Speaker 1: my young sons to read up on on these individuals.

1981
01:39:09,000 --> 01:39:13,000
Speaker 1: Sadly sometimes too late, but a lot of institutional knowledge

1982
01:39:13,080 --> 01:39:15,559
Speaker 1: and a lot of tremendous people who fought a very

1983
01:39:15,640 --> 01:39:19,960
Speaker 1: real fight, unfortunately no longer with us. Steve's gonna kill

1984
01:39:20,000 --> 01:39:22,400
Speaker 1: me for asking you one more baseball question, But I'm

1985
01:39:22,439 --> 01:39:24,920
Speaker 1: thinking with your you know, you're you're a Baltimore guy.

1986
01:39:24,960 --> 01:39:27,640
Speaker 1: You must have crossed passed with Frank Robinson a lot

1987
01:39:27,760 --> 01:39:30,479
Speaker 1: over the years, right, I did. I did several times.

1988
01:39:30,560 --> 01:39:32,760
Speaker 1: In fact, when I was a kid, Um, a lot

1989
01:39:32,840 --> 01:39:34,679
Speaker 1: of times I would take the bus out to Memorial

1990
01:39:34,760 --> 01:39:38,080
Speaker 1: Stadium and we'd get there early like noon and wait

1991
01:39:38,160 --> 01:39:40,080
Speaker 1: for the players and managers and stuff as they got

1992
01:39:40,120 --> 01:39:42,800
Speaker 1: to the ballpark, you know, to get baseball cards. Signed

1993
01:39:42,800 --> 01:39:45,880
Speaker 1: and stuff like that. And Frank was the Oriole skipper

1994
01:39:45,920 --> 01:39:49,080
Speaker 1: for a while and he would invariably bust our chops

1995
01:39:49,120 --> 01:39:50,920
Speaker 1: on the way into the ballpark. You know, why aren't

1996
01:39:50,920 --> 01:39:53,760
Speaker 1: you knuckleheads in summer school? I know you can't get pass. Yeah,

1997
01:39:53,760 --> 01:39:55,840
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, good nature stuff. But he would,

1998
01:39:56,040 --> 01:39:58,120
Speaker 1: you know, usually take the time to say something. And

1999
01:39:58,240 --> 01:40:00,680
Speaker 1: there were more than one occasion where one of the

2000
01:40:00,720 --> 01:40:02,760
Speaker 1: clubhouse kids would come out and say, hey, go to

2001
01:40:02,840 --> 01:40:05,040
Speaker 1: the will call window, you know, and there'd be tickets

2002
01:40:05,160 --> 01:40:08,400
Speaker 1: left for some of us from Frank, or there were

2003
01:40:08,520 --> 01:40:10,600
Speaker 1: you know, some of the kids out there had, you know,

2004
01:40:10,800 --> 01:40:13,280
Speaker 1: less means than others. And there were many times when

2005
01:40:13,720 --> 01:40:15,840
Speaker 1: a clubhouse kid would come out with a bunch of

2006
01:40:15,880 --> 01:40:17,960
Speaker 1: baseball pants and bats and stuff, and all of a

2007
01:40:17,960 --> 01:40:20,479
Speaker 1: sudden would be handed to a particular kid out there,

2008
01:40:20,600 --> 01:40:22,240
Speaker 1: And that was Frank. And he was never a guy

2009
01:40:22,240 --> 01:40:25,040
Speaker 1: who wanted to be seen as soft or seen as

2010
01:40:25,200 --> 01:40:28,360
Speaker 1: lovey dovey or cute and cuddley. And after all he

2011
01:40:28,600 --> 01:40:31,479
Speaker 1: went through, you can understandably think why he was hard

2012
01:40:31,520 --> 01:40:33,560
Speaker 1: and to some degree the way he was, but I

2013
01:40:33,600 --> 01:40:35,560
Speaker 1: also knew he had a really good heart. And for

2014
01:40:35,640 --> 01:40:37,679
Speaker 1: every story about the time he didn't sign an autograph

2015
01:40:37,720 --> 01:40:40,120
Speaker 1: for somebody, or he wasn't you know, he wasn't in

2016
01:40:40,160 --> 01:40:42,479
Speaker 1: the best mood. I know. He did a whole lot

2017
01:40:42,520 --> 01:40:45,240
Speaker 1: of things for a lot of people. And this is

2018
01:40:45,280 --> 01:40:47,680
Speaker 1: a man who when he got to Baltimore could not

2019
01:40:47,840 --> 01:40:50,040
Speaker 1: get a house anywhere after being traded for the Reds

2020
01:40:50,080 --> 01:40:51,840
Speaker 1: because no one would rent to him and no one

2021
01:40:51,880 --> 01:40:54,240
Speaker 1: would sell to him in any neighborhood. Brooks Robinson had

2022
01:40:54,280 --> 01:40:57,000
Speaker 1: to literally go around and tell realtors, the team's not

2023
01:40:57,040 --> 01:40:59,080
Speaker 1: going to do business with you guys anymore unless you

2024
01:40:59,160 --> 01:41:00,800
Speaker 1: help this man find in the house in the area

2025
01:41:00,880 --> 01:41:02,960
Speaker 1: he wants to live in. That's not that long ago,

2026
01:41:03,080 --> 01:41:05,280
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, in nineteen sixty six, it's right,

2027
01:41:05,400 --> 01:41:07,759
Speaker 1: not that long ago. I got a good Frank Rabinson

2028
01:41:07,800 --> 01:41:09,920
Speaker 1: story that I will spare you. Jason Ka Steve's giving

2029
01:41:09,960 --> 01:41:13,640
Speaker 1: me dirty story where we're gonna go trudge me. I

2030
01:41:13,680 --> 01:41:17,120
Speaker 1: won't cut this conversation. Well, I'll tell you I am

2031
01:41:17,160 --> 01:41:19,680
Speaker 1: one encounter with Frank Robinson. It was great. He was

2032
01:41:19,760 --> 01:41:22,800
Speaker 1: managing the Rochester Red Wings. In my senior year at

2033
01:41:22,840 --> 01:41:25,800
Speaker 1: Syracuse University, Uh, we didn't I didn't go to a

2034
01:41:25,800 --> 01:41:27,840
Speaker 1: lot of classes. My second semester senior year. But we

2035
01:41:27,880 --> 01:41:30,759
Speaker 1: went to Syracuse Chiefs games. Frank Robinson, as a manager,

2036
01:41:30,800 --> 01:41:33,280
Speaker 1: would coach third base. We had an ongoing dialogue me

2037
01:41:33,320 --> 01:41:35,519
Speaker 1: and my buddies during the course of an entire weekend

2038
01:41:35,560 --> 01:41:38,040
Speaker 1: of games. He was fantastic. I thought, this is this

2039
01:41:38,160 --> 01:41:39,240
Speaker 1: is a future I don't think he was in the

2040
01:41:39,240 --> 01:41:40,280
Speaker 1: Hall of He might have been in the Hall of

2041
01:41:40,320 --> 01:41:42,479
Speaker 1: Fame by then. He was a future Hall of Famer

2042
01:41:42,479 --> 01:41:44,599
Speaker 1: who was just talking to a bunch of college kids

2043
01:41:44,760 --> 01:41:46,679
Speaker 1: on every time he was in and out of the dugout.

2044
01:41:46,720 --> 01:41:49,040
Speaker 1: Just a wonderful man. I really loved him. He spent

2045
01:41:49,200 --> 01:41:51,880
Speaker 1: parts of seven decades in Major League baseball, from the

2046
01:41:51,960 --> 01:41:54,080
Speaker 1: time he was a minor leaguer until at the end

2047
01:41:54,120 --> 01:41:56,160
Speaker 1: when he was still working for the league office. Parts

2048
01:41:56,200 --> 01:42:00,240
Speaker 1: of seven decades associated with professional baseball. That's don't believing, Steve.

2049
01:42:00,280 --> 01:42:04,439
Speaker 1: You better ask Jason about football. No, it's interesting. No.

2050
01:42:05,200 --> 01:42:07,880
Speaker 1: I find a history awesome, and I think it's something

2051
01:42:07,960 --> 01:42:09,640
Speaker 1: that we were far too We get caught up in

2052
01:42:09,680 --> 01:42:12,160
Speaker 1: too much in the in the moment, and everything now

2053
01:42:12,320 --> 01:42:14,200
Speaker 1: is the best and the greatest, and we forget some

2054
01:42:14,320 --> 01:42:17,400
Speaker 1: of the great, really great human beings that have that

2055
01:42:17,520 --> 01:42:19,960
Speaker 1: have shaped sport in our country, not only on the

2056
01:42:20,040 --> 01:42:24,240
Speaker 1: field but outside the lines. And I unfortunately it's still

2057
01:42:24,280 --> 01:42:27,240
Speaker 1: going on even today and in decades to come, we'll

2058
01:42:27,520 --> 01:42:30,080
Speaker 1: mention some names like that some kids today, We'll mention

2059
01:42:30,240 --> 01:42:33,040
Speaker 1: names um that are prevalent in the game today in

2060
01:42:33,120 --> 01:42:37,320
Speaker 1: future generation. So it's it's on one's hand, it's unfortunate

2061
01:42:37,400 --> 01:42:38,920
Speaker 1: that it still goes on, but on the other hand,

2062
01:42:39,640 --> 01:42:41,880
Speaker 1: the fact that sooner or later it does come around

2063
01:42:41,920 --> 01:42:43,880
Speaker 1: and we get it right, yep, Jason, let me get

2064
01:42:43,880 --> 01:42:46,400
Speaker 1: you into football here and tell we got an interesting

2065
01:42:46,439 --> 01:42:48,880
Speaker 1: Twitter poll today, and you know, we evaluate the Bills

2066
01:42:48,880 --> 01:42:51,479
Speaker 1: twenty eighteen season look ahead to twenty nineteen. Steve and

2067
01:42:51,520 --> 01:42:53,160
Speaker 1: I decided that a lot of it comes down to

2068
01:42:53,560 --> 01:42:57,240
Speaker 1: what fans think about Josh Allen. And we're asking people today,

2069
01:42:57,680 --> 01:43:00,920
Speaker 1: is Josh Allen the guy from your perspective, in nationwide

2070
01:43:01,000 --> 01:43:04,120
Speaker 1: NFL perspective? Is Josh Allen the guy for the Buffalo Bills?

2071
01:43:04,160 --> 01:43:06,160
Speaker 1: And you can interpret that anyway you want. I think

2072
01:43:06,240 --> 01:43:09,559
Speaker 1: he's certainly the guy to continue investing several more seasons

2073
01:43:09,640 --> 01:43:13,080
Speaker 1: in until you absolutely no, I mean not everybody is

2074
01:43:13,120 --> 01:43:15,160
Speaker 1: going to jump on the scene the way and Andrew

2075
01:43:15,240 --> 01:43:18,920
Speaker 1: luck did. The way you know Deshaun Watson did, the

2076
01:43:19,040 --> 01:43:22,200
Speaker 1: way that Patrick Mahomes did, the way a Baker Mayfield did.

2077
01:43:22,320 --> 01:43:25,719
Speaker 1: I know it seems to be happening more now than previously.

2078
01:43:25,840 --> 01:43:28,759
Speaker 1: But but to Steve's point about maintaining a historical prism,

2079
01:43:29,000 --> 01:43:31,040
Speaker 1: when you look through the history of the game, you

2080
01:43:31,160 --> 01:43:34,200
Speaker 1: know that that happens maybe once or twice a decade.

2081
01:43:34,400 --> 01:43:36,960
Speaker 1: I can give you Troy Aikman's rookie stats. I can

2082
01:43:37,000 --> 01:43:39,080
Speaker 1: give you Peyton Manning's rookie stats. You know what I mean.

2083
01:43:39,120 --> 01:43:40,800
Speaker 1: I can give you Dan Faux rookie stats. I can

2084
01:43:40,880 --> 01:43:44,200
Speaker 1: give you, you know, John Elway's rookie stats. That's more

2085
01:43:44,320 --> 01:43:48,280
Speaker 1: than norm So I think he needs, like most kids,

2086
01:43:48,400 --> 01:43:51,040
Speaker 1: time and especially from the program he came from, and

2087
01:43:51,680 --> 01:43:54,120
Speaker 1: and you know what he was asked to do versus

2088
01:43:54,240 --> 01:43:57,439
Speaker 1: what he'll be asked to do when he's a full fledged,

2089
01:43:57,520 --> 01:44:01,240
Speaker 1: experienced NFL starting quarterback. There's there's just a natural learning

2090
01:44:01,320 --> 01:44:04,360
Speaker 1: curve and an EBB and a flow to all this.

2091
01:44:04,720 --> 01:44:06,760
Speaker 1: And you can't get caught up in what happened in

2092
01:44:06,880 --> 01:44:09,839
Speaker 1: Cleveland this year, in Kansas City this year, or Houston

2093
01:44:09,960 --> 01:44:11,840
Speaker 1: last year. And you know what I mean, I think

2094
01:44:11,880 --> 01:44:14,840
Speaker 1: that's everybody's norm, so I think there is plenty of

2095
01:44:14,960 --> 01:44:18,120
Speaker 1: clay to mold there. I think he is one of

2096
01:44:18,200 --> 01:44:22,280
Speaker 1: the better athletes in this league already. I think it's

2097
01:44:22,360 --> 01:44:24,560
Speaker 1: kind of like the situation here involved Lamar Jackson, that

2098
01:44:24,600 --> 01:44:26,600
Speaker 1: you know what he can do running the football, you

2099
01:44:26,680 --> 01:44:30,439
Speaker 1: know what some of the issues are with accuracy, and

2100
01:44:30,760 --> 01:44:33,479
Speaker 1: you know having in Josh's case, harness that arm at

2101
01:44:33,520 --> 01:44:37,840
Speaker 1: times and unleash it at others. But you know, again,

2102
01:44:37,880 --> 01:44:39,600
Speaker 1: I'll compare it to Lamar. It's not like he was

2103
01:44:39,640 --> 01:44:41,600
Speaker 1: getting every single rep in the off season. It was

2104
01:44:41,600 --> 01:44:43,200
Speaker 1: all about getting him ready for Week one, you know

2105
01:44:43,200 --> 01:44:45,400
Speaker 1: what I mean. This is really his first full off

2106
01:44:45,439 --> 01:44:47,920
Speaker 1: season where you're not splitting the reps three ways and

2107
01:44:48,080 --> 01:44:51,240
Speaker 1: you're not trying to figure out when to finally kind

2108
01:44:51,280 --> 01:44:54,080
Speaker 1: of put him in the deep end and make it

2109
01:44:54,200 --> 01:44:57,160
Speaker 1: shackle free and go play against the best defenses in

2110
01:44:57,240 --> 01:44:59,519
Speaker 1: the world at this time. You know, well, obviously hadn't

2111
01:44:59,560 --> 01:45:01,160
Speaker 1: draft him at this time last year, but even being

2112
01:45:01,240 --> 01:45:04,400
Speaker 1: out there for OTAs and stuff. I mean, it's not

2113
01:45:04,600 --> 01:45:07,160
Speaker 1: like he was getting It was all about his development,

2114
01:45:07,240 --> 01:45:10,200
Speaker 1: and now it's all about his development. So I would

2115
01:45:10,240 --> 01:45:14,000
Speaker 1: look for progress this year. I don't I'm not looking

2116
01:45:14,040 --> 01:45:15,960
Speaker 1: for the finished product this year and then I think

2117
01:45:16,120 --> 01:45:18,719
Speaker 1: year three that's when you want to have a winning

2118
01:45:18,800 --> 01:45:21,160
Speaker 1: quarterback on your hands. But I was intrigued by a

2119
01:45:21,200 --> 01:45:23,479
Speaker 1: lot of what I saw. You can understand why they

2120
01:45:23,600 --> 01:45:26,960
Speaker 1: made the investment they made, but you know, well obviously

2121
01:45:27,160 --> 01:45:29,479
Speaker 1: there's there's still some you know, fair amount of progress

2122
01:45:29,520 --> 01:45:31,519
Speaker 1: that needs to be made. Yeah, I want to ask

2123
01:45:31,600 --> 01:45:34,000
Speaker 1: you too about guys around the league. So, since Buffalo

2124
01:45:34,120 --> 01:45:36,560
Speaker 1: seems to haven't, like you, I mean maybe maybe not

2125
01:45:36,720 --> 01:45:40,000
Speaker 1: has their franchise quarterback, are there surprises around the National

2126
01:45:40,040 --> 01:45:43,519
Speaker 1: Football League of guys as the free agent market looms

2127
01:45:43,600 --> 01:45:46,280
Speaker 1: coming up? Are there surprises around the league that might

2128
01:45:46,320 --> 01:45:48,400
Speaker 1: get franchised or is it pretty much cut and dried

2129
01:45:48,479 --> 01:45:52,679
Speaker 1: for most of the teams. Yeah, I don't think there'll

2130
01:45:52,720 --> 01:45:56,160
Speaker 1: be somebody totally off the radar who who gets it

2131
01:45:56,320 --> 01:45:59,240
Speaker 1: at this point. You know, look, we know that we

2132
01:45:59,280 --> 01:46:01,840
Speaker 1: talked about backs and there's never enough of them to

2133
01:46:01,880 --> 01:46:04,000
Speaker 1: go around, and then there's never enough guys to go

2134
01:46:04,080 --> 01:46:06,760
Speaker 1: around who get after the quarterback, right, So I mean

2135
01:46:06,920 --> 01:46:10,519
Speaker 1: the DeMarcus Lawrence is the d Fords. Um, you know,

2136
01:46:10,720 --> 01:46:13,400
Speaker 1: a guy like Grady Jarrett who can collapse the pocket

2137
01:46:13,479 --> 01:46:16,160
Speaker 1: from the interior. You know, I have a hard time

2138
01:46:16,520 --> 01:46:19,760
Speaker 1: with seeing teams, you know, even let let them go. Um,

2139
01:46:19,880 --> 01:46:21,720
Speaker 1: those are guys you got to try to keep in

2140
01:46:21,800 --> 01:46:24,240
Speaker 1: the building at all costs, even if in the case

2141
01:46:24,280 --> 01:46:28,160
Speaker 1: of DeMarcus Lawrence it requires a second straight tag to

2142
01:46:28,320 --> 01:46:31,000
Speaker 1: do so. You know, Ziggions is a great pass rusher,

2143
01:46:31,040 --> 01:46:33,160
Speaker 1: but they franchise him last year they game seventeen million.

2144
01:46:33,360 --> 01:46:35,000
Speaker 1: He was hurt more than he's not. You know, are

2145
01:46:35,040 --> 01:46:36,840
Speaker 1: they going to give the Lions where they are as

2146
01:46:36,880 --> 01:46:39,040
Speaker 1: a program right now? Twenty one twenty two million? The

2147
01:46:39,120 --> 01:46:41,760
Speaker 1: ziggy ansa next year? No, but I bet he still

2148
01:46:41,840 --> 01:46:44,799
Speaker 1: does pretty decently on the free agent market just because

2149
01:46:44,880 --> 01:46:46,639
Speaker 1: of supplying demands. So I think there'll be a few

2150
01:46:46,680 --> 01:46:50,280
Speaker 1: offensive linemen, some kickers, um, Nick Foles is the one quarterback,

2151
01:46:50,439 --> 01:46:53,719
Speaker 1: and then these pass rushers. Um. You know, teams. Teams

2152
01:46:53,720 --> 01:46:55,679
Speaker 1: are gonna fight and claw to keep them from hitting

2153
01:46:55,720 --> 01:46:59,080
Speaker 1: the market. Gonna get tagged. I think you will at

2154
01:46:59,080 --> 01:47:01,000
Speaker 1: the end of the day for that reason. Now, it

2155
01:47:01,080 --> 01:47:03,479
Speaker 1: could be a precursor to a trade. I do not

2156
01:47:03,680 --> 01:47:06,720
Speaker 1: believe it'll be a springboard towards a record, you know,

2157
01:47:07,160 --> 01:47:11,439
Speaker 1: a market setting contract. I don't really know. That they're

2158
01:47:11,520 --> 01:47:14,320
Speaker 1: willing to go there, you know, the kind of commitment

2159
01:47:14,360 --> 01:47:17,280
Speaker 1: it would take you three years worth of guaranteed money

2160
01:47:17,320 --> 01:47:19,479
Speaker 1: to secure him. I think they're kind of more like,

2161
01:47:19,600 --> 01:47:21,280
Speaker 1: let's rent them for another year. We got to get

2162
01:47:21,320 --> 01:47:24,280
Speaker 1: over the hump, and he's had some injury concerns and

2163
01:47:24,800 --> 01:47:27,840
Speaker 1: we may have to recalibrate our entire defense in a year,

2164
01:47:27,920 --> 01:47:30,280
Speaker 1: But for right now, we want them, and then let

2165
01:47:30,400 --> 01:47:34,120
Speaker 1: value emerges over the next few months and there's a

2166
01:47:34,160 --> 01:47:37,280
Speaker 1: trade to be made. You never know, but come July fifteenth,

2167
01:47:37,920 --> 01:47:39,960
Speaker 1: if he's not traded, do I think he signs a

2168
01:47:40,040 --> 01:47:42,479
Speaker 1: long term deal before that franchise deadline to do so?

2169
01:47:43,400 --> 01:47:46,439
Speaker 1: I wouldn't bet on it. We're with Jason lock On

2170
01:47:46,520 --> 01:47:49,960
Speaker 1: for a CBA Sports NFL Insider NFL Today contributor. Got

2171
01:47:50,080 --> 01:47:52,120
Speaker 1: a post up on CBA sports dot com, Jason in

2172
01:47:52,200 --> 01:47:54,799
Speaker 1: which you kind of take a look at a preview

2173
01:47:54,840 --> 01:47:57,840
Speaker 1: of NFL free agency now coming up March thirteenth. Posting

2174
01:47:57,960 --> 01:48:00,200
Speaker 1: one up the other day, you say it's likely. I

2175
01:48:00,320 --> 01:48:02,280
Speaker 1: believe you're saying that it's like you did, Leon Bell

2176
01:48:02,360 --> 01:48:06,840
Speaker 1: gets a transition, you're going to get transitioned. I absolutely did.

2177
01:48:08,120 --> 01:48:10,280
Speaker 1: People very much in the know and Pittsburgh had been

2178
01:48:10,320 --> 01:48:12,640
Speaker 1: telling me for months that they've been talking to the

2179
01:48:12,800 --> 01:48:17,040
Speaker 1: NFL Management Council about this, and that was their preferred strategy. Now,

2180
01:48:17,120 --> 01:48:21,120
Speaker 1: I think the problem became the Antonio Brown situation spirals

2181
01:48:21,200 --> 01:48:24,599
Speaker 1: so far out of control to a point where Ownership's like, Okay,

2182
01:48:24,640 --> 01:48:26,400
Speaker 1: we got to get him out of the building as

2183
01:48:26,479 --> 01:48:28,519
Speaker 1: soon as we can get him to the NFC, you know,

2184
01:48:28,600 --> 01:48:30,400
Speaker 1: and let's try to get a first round pick for him.

2185
01:48:30,640 --> 01:48:33,160
Speaker 1: They're gonna take a twenty plus million dollar cap hit

2186
01:48:33,240 --> 01:48:36,280
Speaker 1: to do that if they transition Levion Bell and they

2187
01:48:36,320 --> 01:48:39,120
Speaker 1: don't have a trade ready to go, you know, already

2188
01:48:39,160 --> 01:48:41,880
Speaker 1: signed Field delivered the moment the league lead ear starts

2189
01:48:41,960 --> 01:48:45,320
Speaker 1: in March thirteenth. Now you're carrying him at fifteen million,

2190
01:48:45,840 --> 01:48:49,200
Speaker 1: your ability to do anything in free agency is really

2191
01:48:49,280 --> 01:48:52,160
Speaker 1: compromised there. They never have much cap space to begin with.

2192
01:48:52,560 --> 01:48:57,719
Speaker 1: So ultimately, after this meeting with Antonio Brown and his agent,

2193
01:48:58,160 --> 01:49:00,240
Speaker 1: you know, then they continue to meet with owners ship

2194
01:49:00,320 --> 01:49:04,000
Speaker 1: and basically the Rooney's you know, don't want to cut

2195
01:49:04,040 --> 01:49:06,040
Speaker 1: off their nose despite their face. And it's hard enough

2196
01:49:06,080 --> 01:49:08,519
Speaker 1: to make one, you know, blockbuster deal in this league

2197
01:49:08,760 --> 01:49:11,320
Speaker 1: and get true value. Let alone try to make two

2198
01:49:11,520 --> 01:49:14,479
Speaker 1: and one. That's is complicated as Bell trying to trade

2199
01:49:14,560 --> 01:49:16,240
Speaker 1: him off a transition tag where he's going to have

2200
01:49:16,280 --> 01:49:18,000
Speaker 1: to agree to a new contract, you know, have the

2201
01:49:18,360 --> 01:49:21,040
Speaker 1: basis of a new contract already in place with another team.

2202
01:49:21,400 --> 01:49:25,120
Speaker 1: So ultimately they backed away from from, you know, something

2203
01:49:25,200 --> 01:49:28,759
Speaker 1: that they had been planning for for quite some time. Jason,

2204
01:49:28,800 --> 01:49:31,559
Speaker 1: I got a thing. I tell you. We've been talking

2205
01:49:31,560 --> 01:49:34,200
Speaker 1: a lot about the AAF on our show. It's been

2206
01:49:34,760 --> 01:49:36,720
Speaker 1: kind of competitive, and for me, it's drawn me in

2207
01:49:36,800 --> 01:49:38,680
Speaker 1: a little bit. And we know that they just got

2208
01:49:38,720 --> 01:49:40,519
Speaker 1: an infusion of cash, so they're gonna be around for

2209
01:49:40,520 --> 01:49:43,600
Speaker 1: a little while longer. One thing that came out of

2210
01:49:43,640 --> 01:49:45,559
Speaker 1: our time at the Super Bowl a couple of weeks ago,

2211
01:49:45,600 --> 01:49:47,880
Speaker 1: we got a chance to talk to Don Yee, who

2212
01:49:48,040 --> 01:49:49,439
Speaker 1: is if for those of you who don't know, is

2213
01:49:49,520 --> 01:49:53,840
Speaker 1: the agent for Tom Brady. He and and maybe one

2214
01:49:53,880 --> 01:49:57,120
Speaker 1: other Maybe it's maybe standing Cronky. I think maybe behind

2215
01:49:57,360 --> 01:50:01,320
Speaker 1: a new league yet another. Yeah, football league. It's not

2216
01:50:01,439 --> 01:50:04,320
Speaker 1: the XFL, it's not the AAF, but it's a league

2217
01:50:04,400 --> 01:50:08,080
Speaker 1: that's made up of basically, what are high school players

2218
01:50:08,160 --> 01:50:10,519
Speaker 1: that don't want to go to college. Yeah, it'll be

2219
01:50:10,640 --> 01:50:12,800
Speaker 1: I actually did a You can go to CBS Sports

2220
01:50:12,840 --> 01:50:14,760
Speaker 1: dot com. I did a long interview with Don Yee

2221
01:50:15,320 --> 01:50:17,479
Speaker 1: shortly after the Super Bowl. I think I think the

2222
01:50:18,000 --> 01:50:22,040
Speaker 1: article came out maybe a week ago today. It's called

2223
01:50:22,160 --> 01:50:24,560
Speaker 1: Pac Pro. It'll be four teams, all based in the

2224
01:50:24,640 --> 01:50:29,080
Speaker 1: southern California area near LA, and basically what they're trying

2225
01:50:29,120 --> 01:50:32,800
Speaker 1: to do is create a viable marketplace for Look, let's

2226
01:50:32,920 --> 01:50:35,479
Speaker 1: let's let's look at the quarterback at Clemson, right, Lawrence.

2227
01:50:35,520 --> 01:50:37,280
Speaker 1: He's got to stay in school three years, even though

2228
01:50:37,600 --> 01:50:39,720
Speaker 1: right now he'd be the first overall pick if he

2229
01:50:39,760 --> 01:50:42,519
Speaker 1: could declare right now. So let's say he plays next year.

2230
01:50:42,760 --> 01:50:46,200
Speaker 1: The Pac Pro League aims to start around July, June

2231
01:50:46,280 --> 01:50:48,240
Speaker 1: or July of twenty twenty. So let's say he plays

2232
01:50:48,280 --> 01:50:51,600
Speaker 1: out next year. And now he's sitting there playing a ballgame. No,

2233
01:50:51,720 --> 01:50:53,559
Speaker 1: And I gotta stay healthy a whole another year before

2234
01:50:53,600 --> 01:50:55,360
Speaker 1: I can finally go in the draft. And I'm not

2235
01:50:55,400 --> 01:50:57,240
Speaker 1: going to get a dime, and I can't license my

2236
01:50:57,320 --> 01:50:59,920
Speaker 1: likeness and I can't sign an autograph for five buck

2237
01:51:00,200 --> 01:51:02,400
Speaker 1: and I don't even own my own name. Well, boy,

2238
01:51:02,560 --> 01:51:06,160
Speaker 1: Don Yee's gonna give me whatever. Seventy five thousand dollars

2239
01:51:06,240 --> 01:51:08,800
Speaker 1: to play in a season that will only be six

2240
01:51:08,960 --> 01:51:11,519
Speaker 1: or eight games, and every practice is going to be

2241
01:51:11,600 --> 01:51:13,080
Speaker 1: open to the NFL, and it's gonna be like the

2242
01:51:13,160 --> 01:51:15,640
Speaker 1: Senior Bowl. Every single day out there. They're gonna have

2243
01:51:15,680 --> 01:51:18,760
Speaker 1: a training camp. NFL teams can be out there, watch

2244
01:51:18,840 --> 01:51:21,559
Speaker 1: every practice. It'll be individualized, one v one. They're going

2245
01:51:21,600 --> 01:51:24,759
Speaker 1: to minimize the trauma and the duress and the reps

2246
01:51:24,800 --> 01:51:26,880
Speaker 1: that these kids get. And then you're going to play

2247
01:51:26,920 --> 01:51:29,679
Speaker 1: these games. And in the meantime, he can sell T shirts.

2248
01:51:29,960 --> 01:51:32,800
Speaker 1: He can you know, he can sell his marketing rights

2249
01:51:32,840 --> 01:51:35,680
Speaker 1: for several million dollars. He can start collecting all of that.

2250
01:51:36,120 --> 01:51:38,519
Speaker 1: The league will pay for him to finish his education,

2251
01:51:38,840 --> 01:51:41,240
Speaker 1: and the league will obviously pay him cash in terms

2252
01:51:41,320 --> 01:51:45,599
Speaker 1: of a contract, and the league will provide insurance. If

2253
01:51:45,680 --> 01:51:47,960
Speaker 1: that catches on. You could have a whole bunch of

2254
01:51:48,000 --> 01:51:50,840
Speaker 1: the twenty twenty one, twenty two year old kids who decide, hey,

2255
01:51:50,960 --> 01:51:53,400
Speaker 1: that might make more sense than for me than playing

2256
01:51:53,439 --> 01:51:55,760
Speaker 1: out another season and hoping I don't get hurt in

2257
01:51:55,800 --> 01:51:58,959
Speaker 1: a college situation. So yeah, that league is very intriguing

2258
01:51:59,040 --> 01:52:02,920
Speaker 1: to me. And they aim to hire a commissioner in

2259
01:52:02,960 --> 01:52:06,880
Speaker 1: the coming weeks. They're close to getting a television deal

2260
01:52:07,320 --> 01:52:11,439
Speaker 1: and again they aim to launch next spring. Jason, I'm

2261
01:52:11,439 --> 01:52:13,439
Speaker 1: gonna go back to the alliance for a second. And

2262
01:52:13,560 --> 01:52:17,000
Speaker 1: Steve mentioned the two hundred fifty million dollar cash infusion.

2263
01:52:17,320 --> 01:52:19,120
Speaker 1: Do we view that as a good sign, like, look,

2264
01:52:19,160 --> 01:52:21,640
Speaker 1: this guy believes in them enough to throw that money in,

2265
01:52:21,840 --> 01:52:23,920
Speaker 1: or I mean I looked at it like, holy cal

2266
01:52:23,960 --> 01:52:27,439
Speaker 1: they almost missed a payroll. Yeah, yeah, and they're trying

2267
01:52:27,479 --> 01:52:29,519
Speaker 1: to couch it like, oh, you know, this guy I

2268
01:52:29,600 --> 01:52:31,559
Speaker 1: wanted in for a long time. I'd be lying if

2269
01:52:31,600 --> 01:52:34,720
Speaker 1: I told you I knew the particulars of that I got.

2270
01:52:34,800 --> 01:52:38,120
Speaker 1: I got my hands full with the NFL, But I

2271
01:52:38,360 --> 01:52:41,120
Speaker 1: think I would look at a glass half full. I

2272
01:52:41,160 --> 01:52:44,560
Speaker 1: mean two hundred and fifty millions. I mean that's you know,

2273
01:52:44,720 --> 01:52:46,720
Speaker 1: it's hard to go through that money that quickly. Now,

2274
01:52:46,760 --> 01:52:48,640
Speaker 1: I do know they're very ambitious in terms of what

2275
01:52:49,160 --> 01:52:51,719
Speaker 1: they're giving out in terms of the insurance for that league,

2276
01:52:51,920 --> 01:52:54,680
Speaker 1: you know, players and coaches and some of the benefits

2277
01:52:55,520 --> 01:53:00,479
Speaker 1: and the stipends. It's it was a significant undertaking, but

2278
01:53:00,680 --> 01:53:03,320
Speaker 1: that should keep them afloat for a while. You know,

2279
01:53:03,640 --> 01:53:06,240
Speaker 1: it better or worse. It at least we're talking about

2280
01:53:06,280 --> 01:53:09,360
Speaker 1: the league. Right. It kept them in the news and

2281
01:53:09,520 --> 01:53:12,600
Speaker 1: the product hasn't been half bad. So I have to

2282
01:53:12,680 --> 01:53:14,960
Speaker 1: look at it as a positive that, whether it was

2283
01:53:15,720 --> 01:53:18,800
Speaker 1: perilous times or not, to get one individual to come

2284
01:53:18,920 --> 01:53:22,320
Speaker 1: up with that much cash on the spot tells you

2285
01:53:22,479 --> 01:53:25,439
Speaker 1: maybe you're onto something. Yeah, one last question for you, Jason,

2286
01:53:25,520 --> 01:53:27,880
Speaker 1: back to the NFL and free agency. We're three weeks

2287
01:53:27,920 --> 01:53:30,639
Speaker 1: away from the opening of the free agent market. Who's

2288
01:53:30,640 --> 01:53:33,519
Speaker 1: going to be the biggest or the first big name

2289
01:53:33,600 --> 01:53:34,800
Speaker 1: to go. Do you think who's going to be the

2290
01:53:34,880 --> 01:53:40,080
Speaker 1: most sought after free agent? Well, I guess if we

2291
01:53:40,240 --> 01:53:45,120
Speaker 1: if we take we take the franchise guys out of it,

2292
01:53:45,360 --> 01:53:49,559
Speaker 1: I mean, I think Brandon Graham's going to be. All

2293
01:53:49,600 --> 01:53:52,000
Speaker 1: these other pass rushers get tagged. I think Brandon Graham

2294
01:53:52,040 --> 01:53:54,920
Speaker 1: of the Eagles is going to go somewhere before free

2295
01:53:54,960 --> 01:53:57,320
Speaker 1: agency even officially starts. He's going to have a fourteen

2296
01:53:57,400 --> 01:54:00,719
Speaker 1: million dollars a year contract on his hands in somewhere.

2297
01:54:01,680 --> 01:54:04,080
Speaker 1: You know. I think a wide receiver like Tyro Williams

2298
01:54:04,080 --> 01:54:06,680
Speaker 1: are the Chargers who stuck behind some supreme talent there

2299
01:54:07,040 --> 01:54:09,160
Speaker 1: but would be a number one in some places and

2300
01:54:09,280 --> 01:54:12,200
Speaker 1: certainly a number two anywhere. I think we saw receivers

2301
01:54:12,240 --> 01:54:14,160
Speaker 1: do really well in free agency the last few years.

2302
01:54:14,520 --> 01:54:16,080
Speaker 1: I think he hits it out of the park. And

2303
01:54:16,120 --> 01:54:18,880
Speaker 1: I mean, look, Levian Bell that deal. I don't think

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01:54:18,920 --> 01:54:20,599
Speaker 1: he's going to get fifty million in the first two

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Speaker 1: years like he wants. But that's one that I think

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01:54:23,120 --> 01:54:25,200
Speaker 1: will be done, you know, during that you know, non

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01:54:25,320 --> 01:54:28,280
Speaker 1: tampering period of time, the two or three days before

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01:54:28,320 --> 01:54:31,479
Speaker 1: the league year officially opens. And some of these offensive

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01:54:31,560 --> 01:54:35,320
Speaker 1: linemen as well, you know John James with the Dolphins,

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01:54:35,640 --> 01:54:37,840
Speaker 1: he's going to be in position to cash in and

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01:54:38,000 --> 01:54:40,520
Speaker 1: then both pay. The Patriots don't put a tag on

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01:54:40,800 --> 01:54:43,120
Speaker 1: Trent Brown. I mean after the season he had a

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01:54:43,200 --> 01:54:46,280
Speaker 1: young left tackle with that upside. I mean he saw

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01:54:46,560 --> 01:54:48,680
Speaker 1: Nate Soldier get fifteen million a year last year. I

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01:54:48,760 --> 01:54:51,840
Speaker 1: think this kid, you know, probably eclipses that somewhere. And

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01:54:51,960 --> 01:54:54,200
Speaker 1: Trey Flowers of the Patriots will do very well out

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01:54:54,200 --> 01:54:57,440
Speaker 1: there as well. Jason, thanks for this, Thanks for coming

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Speaker 1: on with us. We appreciate thank you for talking baseball

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01:54:59,280 --> 01:55:02,160
Speaker 1: with us. Anytime you guys got my number you want

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01:55:02,160 --> 01:55:04,680
Speaker 1: to chat ball, I'm here. Thanks Thanks season. I got

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Speaker 1: four a CBS Sports NFL Insider, NFL Today contributor joined

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01:55:08,520 --> 01:55:12,000
Speaker 1: us on the subway Fresh Take hotline. Subway Eat Fresh.

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Speaker 1: Is that alrighty? We talked Frank Robinson, look at Jason

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01:55:15,560 --> 01:55:18,160
Speaker 1: is mister sports in Baltimore, right, And I knew. I

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01:55:18,160 --> 01:55:20,000
Speaker 1: don't know how we got on, well because don nucom

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01:55:20,080 --> 01:55:22,680
Speaker 1: I read that story and I thought, yeah, that's he

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01:55:22,840 --> 01:55:25,440
Speaker 1: was a significan figure. Then I got to Jason knowing

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01:55:25,480 --> 01:55:28,160
Speaker 1: that he knows baseball and Frank Robinson. I'm telling you nine.

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01:55:28,200 --> 01:55:30,160
Speaker 1: It had to be April of nineteen seventy eight. Frank

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01:55:30,240 --> 01:55:34,520
Speaker 1: Robinson is the manager of the Rochester Red Wings at

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01:55:34,560 --> 01:55:36,800
Speaker 1: the time, coming off of stint as manager of the

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01:55:36,840 --> 01:55:41,640
Speaker 1: Cleveland Indians, the first African American manager in Major League history.

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01:55:42,040 --> 01:55:44,400
Speaker 1: He was not yet in the Hall of Fame, inducted

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01:55:44,400 --> 01:55:45,800
Speaker 1: to the Hall of Fame in nineteen eighty two. I

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01:55:45,880 --> 01:55:48,360
Speaker 1: just look it up. But a major figure. I mean

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01:55:48,440 --> 01:55:50,560
Speaker 1: he played on World Series teams with the Baltimore Orioles.

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01:55:50,600 --> 01:55:52,840
Speaker 1: You know, Frank Robinson, Oh, of course, Crown winner. He

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01:55:52,920 --> 01:55:54,880
Speaker 1: was great. I would could not have been nicer to

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01:55:55,360 --> 01:55:58,920
Speaker 1: three or four knucklehead college seniors sitting there. You know

2340
01:55:58,960 --> 01:56:01,840
Speaker 1: how April manor baseball. Nobody's in the ballpark, right, that

2341
01:56:01,960 --> 01:56:03,480
Speaker 1: was us. We were the only put into the ballpark

2342
01:56:03,640 --> 01:56:05,480
Speaker 1: for one weekend, and he couldn't have been nicer to us.

2343
01:56:05,520 --> 01:56:07,720
Speaker 1: Came over, you know, in between innings and talk to us.

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01:56:07,760 --> 01:56:09,080
Speaker 1: You know, what are you guys doing. You're going to school,

2345
01:56:09,080 --> 01:56:10,640
Speaker 1: you finish, you're gonna graduate, all got oh that kind

2346
01:56:10,640 --> 01:56:12,720
Speaker 1: of yeah, it's great. Yeah, he's one of the few

2347
01:56:14,120 --> 01:56:18,400
Speaker 1: baseball guys that I would recognize out and about. You

2348
01:56:18,440 --> 01:56:20,320
Speaker 1: know what I mean, the baseball guys you kind of

2349
01:56:20,320 --> 01:56:22,560
Speaker 1: teaseier to recognize him because they don't wear face masks

2350
01:56:22,600 --> 01:56:24,080
Speaker 1: and helmets, and you kind of see them all the time,

2351
01:56:24,120 --> 01:56:26,040
Speaker 1: you see them on TV, and you recognize Frank Robinson,

2352
01:56:26,120 --> 01:56:28,200
Speaker 1: a guy who has been around for so long, like

2353
01:56:28,480 --> 01:56:32,160
Speaker 1: like he said, what seven decades, seven decades around baseball.

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01:56:32,320 --> 01:56:35,000
Speaker 1: I would recognize him or would have recognized him. And

2355
01:56:35,080 --> 01:56:37,280
Speaker 1: that's a great story he told too, about Brooks Robinson

2356
01:56:37,720 --> 01:56:39,440
Speaker 1: going around Baltimore trying to find him a house. It

2357
01:56:39,520 --> 01:56:42,240
Speaker 1: wasn't that long, realtors, No, and Baltimore was kind of

2358
01:56:42,280 --> 01:56:45,920
Speaker 1: an edgy Southern type sitting back in the seventies. Anyway,

2359
01:56:46,000 --> 01:56:48,760
Speaker 1: thanks to Jason joining us on the subway, fresh Stake Highline,

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01:56:49,040 --> 01:56:52,320
Speaker 1: presented by subway restaurants, probably locally owned and operated. And

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01:56:52,440 --> 01:56:54,440
Speaker 1: thanks to Steve for indulging me. Let's me talk to

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01:56:54,640 --> 01:56:56,800
Speaker 1: some guys about baseball. I don't know why, don't get

2363
01:56:56,880 --> 01:57:01,160
Speaker 1: used to good point. We're coming back with more One

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Speaker 1: Bill's Live from One Bill's Drive. This is Buffalo Bills Radio.

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Speaker 1: Back to the show, John Murphy, Steve Chatter. Here. I

2366
01:57:23,560 --> 01:57:27,520
Speaker 1: just gave Steve a crash course in Baltimore Orioles nineteen

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01:57:27,600 --> 01:57:31,360
Speaker 1: seventies history during the break. And what didn't not impress yea?

2368
01:57:31,440 --> 01:57:35,440
Speaker 1: I was four twenty game ers World Series. It's the Mets.

2369
01:57:35,560 --> 01:57:38,000
Speaker 1: I mean they were they were specialties. Was riveted with

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Speaker 1: my attention. Anyway, welcome back to the show, John Murphy,

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01:57:40,920 --> 01:57:43,520
Speaker 1: Steve Task. We're talking about the twenty nineteen Buffalo Bills

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01:57:43,720 --> 01:57:46,160
Speaker 1: and the twenty eighteen Buffalo Bills. Our Twitter poll today

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01:57:46,440 --> 01:57:48,600
Speaker 1: I find riveting. We've got a lot of response and

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01:57:48,840 --> 01:57:52,080
Speaker 1: it surprised me the uh, the way this Twitter poll

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01:57:52,160 --> 01:57:54,360
Speaker 1: is played out. I didn't know that Bills fans were

2376
01:57:54,440 --> 01:57:57,040
Speaker 1: this soul on Josh Allen. Let me say that it's

2377
01:57:57,120 --> 01:57:58,960
Speaker 1: Josh Allen, the guy for the Buffalo Bills. That was

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01:57:59,000 --> 01:58:01,640
Speaker 1: our Twitter question today. We got more than twenty one

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01:58:01,720 --> 01:58:05,200
Speaker 1: hundred responses, and forty eight percent say yes, he absolutely

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01:58:05,360 --> 01:58:08,160
Speaker 1: is the guy. Forty two percent say yeah, he probably is.

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01:58:08,680 --> 01:58:11,160
Speaker 1: If you're keeping scoring home. That's ninety percent feel pretty

2382
01:58:11,160 --> 01:58:14,360
Speaker 1: good about Josh Allen. Eight percent say he probably is not,

2383
01:58:15,040 --> 01:58:16,960
Speaker 1: and to only two percent say no, he is not.

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01:58:17,040 --> 01:58:18,720
Speaker 1: I would have voted with the forty two percent he

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01:58:18,800 --> 01:58:21,320
Speaker 1: probably is because it's only one year, right, what do

2386
01:58:21,400 --> 01:58:25,160
Speaker 1: you have thirteen starts? I would want more evidence. Yeah,

2387
01:58:25,280 --> 01:58:27,640
Speaker 1: he had twelve starts. He was out for four games.

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01:58:27,880 --> 01:58:32,480
Speaker 1: Well starts, Yeah, that's right. One he didn't start. Yeah,

2389
01:58:32,560 --> 01:58:35,360
Speaker 1: so eleven starts. They were three and three in their

2390
01:58:35,440 --> 01:58:40,520
Speaker 1: last six. Like I said, and I made the when

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01:58:40,520 --> 01:58:42,520
Speaker 1: I was getting carried away maybe a little bit. I

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01:58:42,640 --> 01:58:44,720
Speaker 1: said he was when he came back from his injury,

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01:58:45,320 --> 01:58:47,640
Speaker 1: when he took over and started playing, he was transformative.

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01:58:47,680 --> 01:58:50,560
Speaker 1: And it wasn't transformative in a statistical or production sense,

2395
01:58:50,600 --> 01:58:53,920
Speaker 1: but man, oh man, the attitude about this team was transformed.

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01:58:54,480 --> 01:58:58,480
Speaker 1: They and I think there's no question that a lot

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01:58:58,480 --> 01:59:00,320
Speaker 1: of people were on board with him, and no matter

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01:59:00,360 --> 01:59:01,840
Speaker 1: what the bills do, the people, you know, some people

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01:59:01,880 --> 01:59:03,480
Speaker 1: are always going to be on board with it. No matter,

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01:59:03,600 --> 01:59:06,120
Speaker 1: as as our twitter pool indicates, there's always a small

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01:59:06,120 --> 01:59:07,760
Speaker 1: percies they're gonna be like, no matter what they do,

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01:59:07,840 --> 01:59:10,600
Speaker 1: it's not gonna work. But by the same token, when

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01:59:10,680 --> 01:59:13,640
Speaker 1: he came back in and started to play, I think

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01:59:13,840 --> 01:59:15,680
Speaker 1: you got to tip your at least, even if you're

2405
01:59:15,680 --> 01:59:17,400
Speaker 1: a critic at Josh Allen, you got to tip your

2406
01:59:17,480 --> 01:59:21,440
Speaker 1: hat to how he won a lot of people over

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01:59:21,720 --> 01:59:24,480
Speaker 1: during the course of this last season, particularly that second half,

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01:59:24,520 --> 01:59:28,560
Speaker 1: when he came back and played. The improvement he made,

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01:59:28,600 --> 01:59:30,680
Speaker 1: the games that he put together, the plays that he made,

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01:59:31,080 --> 01:59:33,000
Speaker 1: the way the team looked with him in the huddle,

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01:59:33,040 --> 01:59:35,040
Speaker 1: the way they acted, and the things they said about him,

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01:59:35,560 --> 01:59:40,240
Speaker 1: It's hard to imagine it going, um, well, I don't nobody,

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01:59:40,360 --> 01:59:44,040
Speaker 1: no other quarterback in recent history has made a splash

2414
01:59:44,160 --> 01:59:47,040
Speaker 1: like that and had the great feedback that he's had

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01:59:47,200 --> 01:59:48,920
Speaker 1: this point of his career. Are you backing off your

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01:59:48,960 --> 01:59:54,560
Speaker 1: transformative state now? It was which somebody it's not complimentary, Steve,

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01:59:54,720 --> 01:59:59,360
Speaker 1: go ahead, He gave Humber tweets and really transformative. Three wins,

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01:59:59,400 --> 02:00:02,080
Speaker 1: three losses, including a one point win over the Mighty Lions.

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02:00:02,640 --> 02:00:05,800
Speaker 1: This is from Gabe Humber, he says, Homer, Steve Gabe

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02:00:05,880 --> 02:00:07,680
Speaker 1: must not have been watching the first couple of weeks

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02:00:07,720 --> 02:00:09,880
Speaker 1: of this season to think that they're the same team

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02:00:09,960 --> 02:00:12,280
Speaker 1: at the end of the season. If they weren't transformed

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02:00:12,320 --> 02:00:15,040
Speaker 1: into a competitive team the last part of the season,

2424
02:00:15,080 --> 02:00:17,160
Speaker 1: the last six games of the season, you weren't watching

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02:00:17,520 --> 02:00:22,440
Speaker 1: because it was I'm not saying they turned into a

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02:00:22,520 --> 02:00:25,560
Speaker 1: great offense, but they were transformed, particularly by the with

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02:00:25,680 --> 02:00:29,320
Speaker 1: the attitude that they that people had about them and

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02:00:29,520 --> 02:00:33,720
Speaker 1: the way they played. They weren't great offensively, but man,

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02:00:33,800 --> 02:00:36,440
Speaker 1: oh man, were they different than when they started? Oh

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02:00:36,520 --> 02:00:39,160
Speaker 1: my gosh, are you kidding me? They were? They scored

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02:00:39,240 --> 02:00:44,040
Speaker 1: three points on opening Day three. Yeah, they were horrible.

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02:00:44,360 --> 02:00:46,080
Speaker 1: It was like it was a huge slap in the

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02:00:46,160 --> 02:00:47,480
Speaker 1: face for a lot of people. It was like, oh

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02:00:47,560 --> 02:00:51,240
Speaker 1: my gosh, no way. And they weren't that at the

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Speaker 1: end of the season. So I will stand by transformative

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02:00:56,040 --> 02:00:57,680
Speaker 1: that I didn't say they turned into a great thing.

2437
02:00:57,760 --> 02:01:00,920
Speaker 1: I'm saying they were different than they were before. Are very,

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02:01:01,080 --> 02:01:02,880
Speaker 1: very different than they were before. What do you think,

2439
02:01:02,960 --> 02:01:04,720
Speaker 1: Josh Allen to see the guy that's got a call

2440
02:01:04,800 --> 02:01:08,120
Speaker 1: here from Alex in Niagara Falls. Hello, Alex, welcome, you're

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02:01:08,160 --> 02:01:13,120
Speaker 1: on the air with its Hello, Uh, I was just

2442
02:01:13,120 --> 02:01:17,760
Speaker 1: wanting to talk about go ahead. I was I was thinking,

2443
02:01:17,880 --> 02:01:20,760
Speaker 1: you know, he's a good fit, you know, with like

2444
02:01:20,840 --> 02:01:22,480
Speaker 1: the offense that they had this year, I think he

2445
02:01:22,560 --> 02:01:25,640
Speaker 1: did amazing. You know, you lose three your starting offensive linemans.

2446
02:01:25,960 --> 02:01:27,520
Speaker 1: You know, you have an aging running back in with

2447
02:01:27,560 --> 02:01:29,840
Speaker 1: Sean McClure and he has, you know, not so great

2448
02:01:29,840 --> 02:01:31,440
Speaker 1: your years. I think he did great, you know, in

2449
02:01:31,520 --> 02:01:33,160
Speaker 1: his first rookie year, and I think it's you know,

2450
02:01:33,320 --> 02:01:34,720
Speaker 1: this is like the floor and you could all go

2451
02:01:34,840 --> 02:01:36,840
Speaker 1: up from there. Yeah. I agree with There's a lot,

2452
02:01:37,040 --> 02:01:38,360
Speaker 1: a lot to be said for that. And I think

2453
02:01:38,440 --> 02:01:40,680
Speaker 1: there's no question he was the most exciting offensive player

2454
02:01:40,760 --> 02:01:44,120
Speaker 1: during the season. UM, and the performance he put on

2455
02:01:44,160 --> 02:01:48,320
Speaker 1: in Week seventeen really left me, at least and probably

2456
02:01:48,360 --> 02:01:51,000
Speaker 1: a lot of other people really wanting more. The guy

2457
02:01:51,320 --> 02:01:54,800
Speaker 1: through for three and ran for two touchdowns. UM, that's

2458
02:01:54,840 --> 02:01:57,160
Speaker 1: a pretty fun day to watch for for a quarterback

2459
02:01:57,240 --> 02:01:59,440
Speaker 1: who you're trying to decide whether he's your guy or not.

2460
02:02:00,040 --> 02:02:03,560
Speaker 1: When he hangs five touchdowns on UM, it's pretty easy

2461
02:02:03,600 --> 02:02:07,000
Speaker 1: to get behind that bandwagon. Anything else, Alex, He's gone okay.

2462
02:02:07,280 --> 02:02:09,760
Speaker 1: NFL True and False brought to you by Yancey's Fancy

2463
02:02:10,240 --> 02:02:12,720
Speaker 1: New York's artists and cheese. You ready to go? M

2464
02:02:13,560 --> 02:02:17,160
Speaker 1: you're the judge here true false, Let's go. Franchise tag

2465
02:02:17,360 --> 02:02:20,040
Speaker 1: is a scam. Time to kill it. That is a

2466
02:02:20,160 --> 02:02:23,920
Speaker 1: headline written on esp Nation by Adam Styles. Franchise tag

2467
02:02:24,040 --> 02:02:26,080
Speaker 1: is a scam. Time to kill it, Steve, you can

2468
02:02:26,160 --> 02:02:28,040
Speaker 1: go first with it. Is absolutely time to kill it.

2469
02:02:28,840 --> 02:02:30,560
Speaker 1: It's no, there's no reason to have it on there.

2470
02:02:30,640 --> 02:02:33,440
Speaker 1: These these teams know now how to handle a cap,

2471
02:02:33,560 --> 02:02:35,600
Speaker 1: how to manage the cap. It was a reaction to

2472
02:02:35,920 --> 02:02:39,120
Speaker 1: some uncertain waters in the future about free agency, how

2473
02:02:39,160 --> 02:02:41,640
Speaker 1: it was gonna work out, and it was a way

2474
02:02:41,720 --> 02:02:45,879
Speaker 1: for ownership to get out of the pressure of signing

2475
02:02:46,200 --> 02:02:48,720
Speaker 1: their most who they thought was their most important player.

2476
02:02:48,720 --> 02:02:51,600
Speaker 1: For instance, it was it was about John Elway giving

2477
02:02:51,680 --> 02:02:55,040
Speaker 1: getting the Broncos a chance to get him signed. You

2478
02:02:55,120 --> 02:02:57,880
Speaker 1: know what, you don't shouldn't. You don't deserve that you

2479
02:02:58,000 --> 02:02:59,760
Speaker 1: signed him to a deal. When that deal is up.

2480
02:03:00,000 --> 02:03:02,400
Speaker 1: The deal is up, and so I think this franchise

2481
02:03:02,440 --> 02:03:05,640
Speaker 1: stuff should go away, and teams should be forced under

2482
02:03:05,640 --> 02:03:08,360
Speaker 1: the terms of the present contract to set up their

2483
02:03:08,440 --> 02:03:13,080
Speaker 1: next contract without having a whole year of a cookie

2484
02:03:13,120 --> 02:03:16,200
Speaker 1: cutter salary to give the guy, no matter how high

2485
02:03:16,200 --> 02:03:18,560
Speaker 1: it is. Let let the market speak for itself. It'll

2486
02:03:18,560 --> 02:03:20,120
Speaker 1: open up the league a little more. And I think

2487
02:03:20,160 --> 02:03:21,880
Speaker 1: it's time for it to go away. I would say

2488
02:03:21,920 --> 02:03:24,320
Speaker 1: true as well. Is it a scam? No, but it's

2489
02:03:24,360 --> 02:03:27,360
Speaker 1: not used the way it originally was used, and I

2490
02:03:27,400 --> 02:03:29,200
Speaker 1: don't think it's used and anywhere near the way it

2491
02:03:29,280 --> 02:03:31,560
Speaker 1: was originally intended. You know, you go back to the

2492
02:03:31,760 --> 02:03:35,600
Speaker 1: early nineties when this version of free agency came about,

2493
02:03:35,680 --> 02:03:37,360
Speaker 1: and our buddy Bill Polian had a lot to do

2494
02:03:37,920 --> 02:03:40,520
Speaker 1: with the way free agency was set up. The franchise

2495
02:03:40,560 --> 02:03:42,960
Speaker 1: tag was kind of an insurance policy for teams just

2496
02:03:43,080 --> 02:03:46,360
Speaker 1: that like the Bills or the Broncos, and we don't

2497
02:03:46,400 --> 02:03:49,280
Speaker 1: want to lose our franchise quarterback. That's why the name

2498
02:03:49,400 --> 02:03:51,960
Speaker 1: is the franchise tag, quite frankly, because there were certain

2499
02:03:52,040 --> 02:03:54,280
Speaker 1: players the teams would identify as they get you know,

2500
02:03:54,360 --> 02:03:57,360
Speaker 1: it protects them. He is our franchise. We don't want

2501
02:03:57,360 --> 02:03:59,840
Speaker 1: to lose them. So you have the franchise tag set up,

2502
02:04:00,200 --> 02:04:02,120
Speaker 1: you know, parameters of how much money it would take

2503
02:04:02,160 --> 02:04:04,000
Speaker 1: to tag him and keep them for one year. But

2504
02:04:04,080 --> 02:04:06,360
Speaker 1: it's not used that way anymore. It really isn't. It's

2505
02:04:06,480 --> 02:04:09,200
Speaker 1: used now as a Steve set. It's a negotiating tool.

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02:04:09,400 --> 02:04:12,680
Speaker 1: Let's tag him this year, franchise tag, war, transition tag,

2507
02:04:12,960 --> 02:04:14,840
Speaker 1: and then we'll maneuver around and maybe we'll tag him

2508
02:04:14,840 --> 02:04:16,840
Speaker 1: again next year. Yeah, get rid of crazy. I don't

2509
02:04:16,840 --> 02:04:18,120
Speaker 1: think they should be able to do it. And I

2510
02:04:18,360 --> 02:04:21,200
Speaker 1: and it's it's not fair. That's all there is to it.

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Speaker 1: Part two, NFL two or false Jadeveon Clowney will be

2512
02:04:24,760 --> 02:04:28,400
Speaker 1: the top free agent this offseason. It's false. I think

2513
02:04:28,440 --> 02:04:32,040
Speaker 1: so too. He's gonna get franchised. I think, as unfair

2514
02:04:32,080 --> 02:04:35,360
Speaker 1: as that sound, it is, it is unfair or resigned. Yeah,

2515
02:04:35,760 --> 02:04:37,360
Speaker 1: he's not going to be to get tagged and then

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02:04:37,400 --> 02:04:39,800
Speaker 1: negotiations start in earnest. He is not going to be

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02:04:39,920 --> 02:04:41,960
Speaker 1: a free agent, So I don't think he'll be the

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02:04:42,000 --> 02:04:44,120
Speaker 1: first free agent sign for that reason. I agree. I

2519
02:04:44,160 --> 02:04:47,160
Speaker 1: think he's a foundational player for the Houston Texans, who

2520
02:04:47,680 --> 02:04:50,000
Speaker 1: you know, now have their window open right for a

2521
02:04:50,080 --> 02:04:53,680
Speaker 1: Super Bowl run, as unlikely as it may seem, when

2522
02:04:53,720 --> 02:04:55,280
Speaker 1: are they going to be better than they are being

2523
02:04:55,440 --> 02:04:57,040
Speaker 1: than they have been the last year or so? And

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02:04:57,160 --> 02:05:00,280
Speaker 1: here's the thing. With a healthy JJ wild JJ doesn't

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02:05:00,280 --> 02:05:05,040
Speaker 1: stay healthy, and Jadevian has battled had battled injuries early

2526
02:05:05,080 --> 02:05:07,960
Speaker 1: in his career, but you can't count on JJ Watt

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02:05:08,000 --> 02:05:10,640
Speaker 1: being there. And he didn't have the same kind of

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02:05:10,760 --> 02:05:12,640
Speaker 1: year this last year as he has had in the past.

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02:05:12,760 --> 02:05:14,920
Speaker 1: At least he didn't make a splash like he has

2530
02:05:15,040 --> 02:05:17,800
Speaker 1: and that's a guy that was three time MVP Defensive MVP.

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02:05:17,960 --> 02:05:23,240
Speaker 1: So Clowney is absolutely a must for the Texans going forward.

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02:05:23,280 --> 02:05:27,480
Speaker 1: I think they'll tie him up. One more from NFL

2533
02:05:27,560 --> 02:05:31,320
Speaker 1: true or false. Going back into NFL history, Paul Kraus's

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02:05:31,760 --> 02:05:34,480
Speaker 1: eighty one career interceptions is a record that will not

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02:05:34,600 --> 02:05:38,040
Speaker 1: be broken. Eighty one picks from nineteen sixty four through

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02:05:38,160 --> 02:05:41,480
Speaker 1: nineteen seventy nine. Paul krausse Minnesota Viking, played two hundred

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02:05:41,520 --> 02:05:44,720
Speaker 1: ten games, eighty one interceptions, ran back three of him

2538
02:05:44,760 --> 02:05:47,400
Speaker 1: for touchdowns. I'll go first. I think that's true. There's

2539
02:05:47,400 --> 02:05:50,600
Speaker 1: nobody even close who is active. Steve rod Woodson, who

2540
02:05:50,720 --> 02:05:53,920
Speaker 1: retired in two thousand and three, is third with seventy

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02:05:53,920 --> 02:05:57,400
Speaker 1: one interceptions. Dick Knight Train Lane is fourth. I mean

2542
02:05:57,800 --> 02:06:02,840
Speaker 1: the numbers, there's nobody close. Charles Woodson sixty five career

2543
02:06:02,880 --> 02:06:06,920
Speaker 1: interceptions he's fifth ed read eight sixty four career interceptions.

2544
02:06:06,960 --> 02:06:10,960
Speaker 1: He retired six years ago. Nobody active, who's even closer

2545
02:06:11,080 --> 02:06:13,360
Speaker 1: getting close to it. It's a different game now. Teams

2546
02:06:13,400 --> 02:06:15,600
Speaker 1: would put it up back in the day when Krause

2547
02:06:15,720 --> 02:06:18,000
Speaker 1: was playing eighty one career interceptions, they would put it

2548
02:06:18,120 --> 02:06:19,880
Speaker 1: up deep and a guy like Paul Kraus would sit

2549
02:06:19,960 --> 02:06:22,000
Speaker 1: back there and make a play, get the pick. No,

2550
02:06:22,320 --> 02:06:25,280
Speaker 1: it will it is, yes, true, it is a record

2551
02:06:25,360 --> 02:06:28,720
Speaker 1: that will not be broken. I would say never, say never.

2552
02:06:29,840 --> 02:06:32,520
Speaker 1: The league is getting more and more pass happy. You

2553
02:06:32,600 --> 02:06:34,880
Speaker 1: get a guy who's short stuff. It's a great guy,

2554
02:06:34,960 --> 02:06:37,400
Speaker 1: who's a great player, who stays around for a long

2555
02:06:37,480 --> 02:06:40,040
Speaker 1: time on a great defense, it could happen. I'm gonna

2556
02:06:40,120 --> 02:06:44,040
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna say never. Never. Rod Woodson was close.

2557
02:06:44,800 --> 02:06:46,920
Speaker 1: If you give him ten away, if you give him

2558
02:06:47,000 --> 02:06:51,480
Speaker 1: one more pick or point eight more interceptions per year

2559
02:06:51,520 --> 02:06:55,240
Speaker 1: in his career, he would pass it. So I would

2560
02:06:55,280 --> 02:06:59,480
Speaker 1: say I wouldn't put it out of reach. Now there's

2561
02:06:59,560 --> 02:07:03,440
Speaker 1: nobody active even Oh, nobody's going to get close active.

2562
02:07:03,760 --> 02:07:05,520
Speaker 1: I agree with you there, but I would say never,

2563
02:07:05,600 --> 02:07:07,600
Speaker 1: say never. I mean, that's why they keep those things.

2564
02:07:08,000 --> 02:07:10,400
Speaker 1: I'm looking again down the list. Oh, it's a long,

2565
02:07:10,760 --> 02:07:13,520
Speaker 1: it's a Most of the guys on that list are

2566
02:07:13,880 --> 02:07:16,960
Speaker 1: completely out of the league. There's six these seventies players. Yeah, right,

2567
02:07:17,720 --> 02:07:20,080
Speaker 1: for a reason. People don't play the game the same way. Yeah,

2568
02:07:20,200 --> 02:07:22,120
Speaker 1: there you go. NFL two or false brought to you

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02:07:22,200 --> 02:07:24,960
Speaker 1: by Yancey's Fancy New York's artists and Cheese. Want to

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02:07:24,960 --> 02:07:28,240
Speaker 1: squeeze in one more call here, Chris and Myrtle Beach. Hello, Chris,

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Speaker 1: go ahead, you'round the ear afternoon, guys, how y'all doing dood? Yeah?

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02:07:34,120 --> 02:07:35,640
Speaker 1: So I just want to, you know, kind of agree

2573
02:07:35,680 --> 02:07:38,520
Speaker 1: with Steve. I think that towards the end of the

2574
02:07:38,640 --> 02:07:42,000
Speaker 1: year from the beginning was a complete hundred and eighty

2575
02:07:42,040 --> 02:07:44,840
Speaker 1: degree turn. You know, I went to the home I

2576
02:07:44,920 --> 02:07:46,760
Speaker 1: tried to go to the home opener every year, so

2577
02:07:46,840 --> 02:07:48,760
Speaker 1: I went to the home opener this year, and I

2578
02:07:48,960 --> 02:07:50,560
Speaker 1: was devastated that I had to go. I had to

2579
02:07:50,600 --> 02:07:53,200
Speaker 1: spend all this money, you know. I know Josh was playing,

2580
02:07:53,280 --> 02:07:55,760
Speaker 1: but it was still his first ever start. And then

2581
02:07:55,800 --> 02:07:57,840
Speaker 1: we got into the middle of the season where we're like,

2582
02:07:57,960 --> 02:08:00,280
Speaker 1: oh my gosh, what are we even doing this here?

2583
02:08:00,360 --> 02:08:02,640
Speaker 1: Can it be next year already? And then when Josh

2584
02:08:02,760 --> 02:08:05,360
Speaker 1: came back. I was finding myself trying to find tickets

2585
02:08:05,400 --> 02:08:07,280
Speaker 1: to go to one of the last home games because

2586
02:08:07,280 --> 02:08:10,320
Speaker 1: I wanted to see this kid play. He is, you know,

2587
02:08:10,440 --> 02:08:12,880
Speaker 1: he's definitely the answer for the future. But when it

2588
02:08:12,960 --> 02:08:14,320
Speaker 1: comes down to it, you know, I just wanted to

2589
02:08:14,440 --> 02:08:17,640
Speaker 1: let Steve know that I agree with Steve and uh

2590
02:08:18,000 --> 02:08:19,360
Speaker 1: and that's where I stay and hope you guys to

2591
02:08:19,400 --> 02:08:20,800
Speaker 1: have a good rest of your agree with Steve that

2592
02:08:20,880 --> 02:08:27,400
Speaker 1: he was transformation, afformative, trans transfer, transformative, not yeah the

2593
02:08:27,480 --> 02:08:30,880
Speaker 1: one that Steve just said. Thank you right on the money, Chris,

2594
02:08:31,000 --> 02:08:35,040
Speaker 1: Thanks for your call. Callback anytime. See Murf. I wasn't

2595
02:08:35,240 --> 02:08:38,120
Speaker 1: look I'm like anti Josh Allen sure him yet he's not.

2596
02:08:38,360 --> 02:08:41,120
Speaker 1: I don't agree with your assertion that he was transformative

2597
02:08:41,200 --> 02:08:43,880
Speaker 1: last year. That's all I'm saying. You're not anti Josh,

2598
02:08:43,920 --> 02:08:48,680
Speaker 1: you're anti Steve. That's very true. Over the course of

2599
02:08:48,760 --> 02:08:53,680
Speaker 1: this last season, he transformed that offense for the Buffalo Bills. Absolutely,

2600
02:08:53,840 --> 02:08:56,800
Speaker 1: my I'll stand by that. The more I talk from

2601
02:08:56,840 --> 02:08:59,520
Speaker 1: where they were and all the stuff they went through.

2602
02:09:00,880 --> 02:09:04,720
Speaker 1: Derek Anderson twelve days into his career in Buffalo. Matt

2603
02:09:04,800 --> 02:09:09,440
Speaker 1: Barkley eleven days into his Buffalo career. Both those guys

2604
02:09:09,520 --> 02:09:12,600
Speaker 1: having to start games Matt Barkley transformed him and from

2605
02:09:12,840 --> 02:09:16,840
Speaker 1: from when Matt when Josh came back the next week,

2606
02:09:18,400 --> 02:09:20,880
Speaker 1: everything changed for that offense. They were fun to watch,

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02:09:20,960 --> 02:09:23,600
Speaker 1: you were intriguing. Josh was getting better week by week.

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02:09:23,960 --> 02:09:27,200
Speaker 1: It was come on, you gotta yeah it was. No,

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02:09:27,640 --> 02:09:29,920
Speaker 1: I don't agree he was transformed. Oh yeah, I agree

2610
02:09:29,960 --> 02:09:32,440
Speaker 1: he was better. He got better every week. I'm excited

2611
02:09:32,480 --> 02:09:36,560
Speaker 1: about his I didn't say he was transformed. I say

2612
02:09:36,600 --> 02:09:39,440
Speaker 1: the attitude and the offense from where it started to

2613
02:09:39,520 --> 02:09:42,200
Speaker 1: where it ended up was transformed. How do you account

2614
02:09:42,240 --> 02:09:45,120
Speaker 1: for twelve points at New England and seventeen points at

2615
02:09:45,200 --> 02:09:47,600
Speaker 1: Miami and lots to the Dolphins. I'm gonna tell you.

2616
02:09:47,600 --> 02:09:49,800
Speaker 1: You're ready to help me to hear it. They scored

2617
02:09:49,880 --> 02:09:53,720
Speaker 1: three points on opening day three and they were at

2618
02:09:53,760 --> 02:09:56,120
Speaker 1: the end of the game they scored. Yeah, it's four

2619
02:09:56,240 --> 02:10:01,480
Speaker 1: times better. That's transformative. Win. I win. We're back to

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02:10:01,520 --> 02:10:05,000
Speaker 1: the morning One Bill's Live from One Mill's Drive. This

2621
02:10:05,120 --> 02:10:27,080
Speaker 1: is Buffalo Bills Radio Plus. How we wrap up the show.

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Speaker 1: the Buffalo Bills. Add Kinkabuada of the NFL Network joined

2626
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Speaker 1: us earlier today. She is based in Pittsburgh. She's right

2627
02:10:42,000 --> 02:10:45,000
Speaker 1: in the midst of covering that crazy meltdown with the

2628
02:10:45,040 --> 02:10:48,600
Speaker 1: Pittsburgh Steelers Antonio Brown, Levy on Bell Everything Else. Add

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02:10:48,720 --> 02:10:51,400
Speaker 1: kin Kabadda talked to us about the Antonio Brown situation

2630
02:10:51,520 --> 02:10:55,520
Speaker 1: earlier today. Well, you know, I talked to a high

2631
02:10:55,600 --> 02:10:58,520
Speaker 1: level member of the organization this morning who said that

2632
02:10:58,640 --> 02:11:00,440
Speaker 1: it was made very clear to him when he met

2633
02:11:00,480 --> 02:11:03,560
Speaker 1: with Art Rooney that he needs to stop hurting his

2634
02:11:03,640 --> 02:11:06,400
Speaker 1: trade value. But the way he's behaving right now, the

2635
02:11:07,160 --> 02:11:11,200
Speaker 1: social media truth theorem that he seems to have or

2636
02:11:11,280 --> 02:11:13,920
Speaker 1: if true as he seems it, and not helping his

2637
02:11:14,040 --> 02:11:16,560
Speaker 1: cause in any way, And that the Steelers are absolutely

2638
02:11:16,640 --> 02:11:20,000
Speaker 1: not going to be held hostage by his antics or

2639
02:11:20,080 --> 02:11:23,280
Speaker 1: his behavior. And if they don't get what they feel

2640
02:11:23,400 --> 02:11:28,040
Speaker 1: is fair value, then he's not moving. Would be interesting, Stephen,

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02:11:28,040 --> 02:11:30,400
Speaker 1: I'll talk about that. If Antonio Brown does not move,

2642
02:11:30,800 --> 02:11:32,960
Speaker 1: what does that look like next year for the Pittsburgh's

2643
02:11:32,960 --> 02:11:35,920
Speaker 1: Eiler Also on the show today Jason lack On fora

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02:11:36,320 --> 02:11:39,480
Speaker 1: of CBS NFL coverage. Jason lack On for We got

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02:11:39,560 --> 02:11:42,800
Speaker 1: him involved in today's Twitter poll, Josh Allen, they see

2646
02:11:42,840 --> 02:11:45,680
Speaker 1: the guy for the Bills. Here's what Jason Lackhon for

2647
02:11:45,800 --> 02:11:49,360
Speaker 1: I had to say an answer to that. I think

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02:11:49,400 --> 02:11:52,200
Speaker 1: there is plenty of quay to mold there. I think

2649
02:11:52,320 --> 02:11:55,960
Speaker 1: he is one of the better athletes in this league

2650
02:11:56,120 --> 02:11:59,480
Speaker 1: already and now it's all about his development. So I

2651
02:11:59,480 --> 02:12:03,280
Speaker 1: would look for progress this year. I don't. I'm not

2652
02:12:03,400 --> 02:12:05,360
Speaker 1: looking for the finished product this year, and then I

2653
02:12:05,440 --> 02:12:08,080
Speaker 1: think year three that's when you want to have a

2654
02:12:08,120 --> 02:12:10,760
Speaker 1: winning quarterback on your hands. But I was intrigued by

2655
02:12:10,760 --> 02:12:12,960
Speaker 1: a lot of what I saw. You can understand why

2656
02:12:13,040 --> 02:12:15,800
Speaker 1: they made the investment they made, but you know, well,

2657
02:12:16,240 --> 02:12:19,120
Speaker 1: obviously there's still some you know, fair amount of progress

2658
02:12:19,120 --> 02:12:22,360
Speaker 1: that needs to be made. Well, they paying customers, the

2659
02:12:22,400 --> 02:12:24,960
Speaker 1: fancier of the Bills think he's on the right track. Obviously.

2660
02:12:25,040 --> 02:12:27,440
Speaker 1: Our Twitter poll today it was pretty simple, is Josh

2661
02:12:27,520 --> 02:12:29,760
Speaker 1: aving the guy for the Buffalo Bills? And on Twitter

2662
02:12:30,160 --> 02:12:33,360
Speaker 1: on the poll, forty eight percent said yes, absolutely, he's

2663
02:12:33,400 --> 02:12:36,240
Speaker 1: the guy. Forty two percent said yeah, it probably is.

2664
02:12:37,320 --> 02:12:40,400
Speaker 1: Eight percent he's probably not two percent said no, so

2665
02:12:40,680 --> 02:12:43,440
Speaker 1: ninety percent approval reading. I'm surprised by that. That's all

2666
02:12:43,440 --> 02:12:45,320
Speaker 1: I'm saying. Two I want to hear from the two percent.

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02:12:46,440 --> 02:12:48,200
Speaker 1: There's no way. What do they see that made him

2668
02:12:48,200 --> 02:12:51,960
Speaker 1: think he's not? I mean certainly that because we have

2669
02:12:52,000 --> 02:12:53,760
Speaker 1: this conversation we talked about her in the show. There's

2670
02:12:53,760 --> 02:12:56,360
Speaker 1: all these people that that just look at the numbers

2671
02:12:57,680 --> 02:13:00,160
Speaker 1: and don't see what you and I saw and what

2672
02:13:00,320 --> 02:13:04,000
Speaker 1: me and when I'm gushing about about this transformative superpower

2673
02:13:04,080 --> 02:13:06,400
Speaker 1: that Josh Allen brought it, right, So you gotta go

2674
02:13:06,480 --> 02:13:08,960
Speaker 1: back there, right right? So wrong, you go back right,

2675
02:13:09,080 --> 02:13:12,320
Speaker 1: so you know this transformative force that he became for

2676
02:13:12,400 --> 02:13:17,720
Speaker 1: this Bill's office, right, nobody, but you know what I mean,

2677
02:13:17,880 --> 02:13:19,800
Speaker 1: they didn't see the improvement that we saw every withe

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02:13:19,880 --> 02:13:22,120
Speaker 1: They didn't notice that the week seventeen he had a

2679
02:13:22,160 --> 02:13:27,120
Speaker 1: sixty five or sixty four plus percentage completion percentage. Uh.

2680
02:13:28,720 --> 02:13:30,920
Speaker 1: They didn't see the tangible things that we saw week

2681
02:13:30,960 --> 02:13:35,160
Speaker 1: to week that made him so intriguing and his future

2682
02:13:35,280 --> 02:13:37,480
Speaker 1: even more optimistic for all of us. So I I

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02:13:37,720 --> 02:13:40,160
Speaker 1: you know, there's always national people that say I is

2684
02:13:40,200 --> 02:13:41,480
Speaker 1: what he is, He's not going to do anything. I

2685
02:13:41,520 --> 02:13:45,080
Speaker 1: think he's intriguing, I think he's um fun to watch.

2686
02:13:45,320 --> 02:13:47,440
Speaker 1: I think he is the future of the franchise, the

2687
02:13:47,520 --> 02:13:50,440
Speaker 1: immediate future especially. I'm pretty I feel pretty good about

2688
02:13:50,480 --> 02:13:56,320
Speaker 1: Josh Allen. Pretty good, pretty good, Pretty do your feelings

2689
02:13:56,440 --> 02:13:59,000
Speaker 1: haven't been transformed? No, that is the word of the day.

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02:13:59,280 --> 02:14:03,720
Speaker 1: The season was transformed. Transformational is the word of the

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Speaker 1: today's show. Thank you. We'll have a word tomorrow as well.

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Speaker 1: I want to thank our production assistants, George Blast, Jeff Colton,

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Speaker 1: Nick Thomas Homalder, Kelly Rude, j j Teredo, Kevin Kargis,

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02:14:12,720 --> 02:14:15,200
Speaker 1: James robol Our, producer Jay Harris. We are back tomorrow

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Speaker 1: with another great show, transformational show Tomorrow at twelve noon,

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Speaker 1: make sure you join us One Bill's Live, presented by

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