1 00:00:15,436 --> 00:00:24,036 Speaker 1: Pushkin. Hey everyone, Today we're revisiting one of the early 2 00:00:24,196 --> 00:00:29,316 Speaker 1: great episodes of Broken Record with legendary producer Nile Rogers. 3 00:00:29,836 --> 00:00:31,756 Speaker 1: Over the course of me more than half a century 4 00:00:31,756 --> 00:00:35,476 Speaker 1: long career, Nile Rogers has played his signature guitar on, written, 5 00:00:35,596 --> 00:00:38,836 Speaker 1: or produced some of the greatest dance songs of all time, 6 00:00:39,036 --> 00:00:42,676 Speaker 1: including Dana ross As I'm Coming Out, Daft Punks, Get Lucky, 7 00:00:42,796 --> 00:00:46,356 Speaker 1: and Madonna's Like a Virgin. Back in fall of twenty eighteen, 8 00:00:46,476 --> 00:00:48,276 Speaker 1: now I met up with Bruce Hellum at the same 9 00:00:48,316 --> 00:00:51,596 Speaker 1: New York City recording studio where thirty five years earlier, 10 00:00:51,796 --> 00:00:55,436 Speaker 1: Now recorded the Let's Dance Album with David Bowie. But 11 00:00:55,556 --> 00:00:58,996 Speaker 1: this time around, Nile brought his famed disco funk band 12 00:00:59,076 --> 00:01:02,236 Speaker 1: Chic to the interview to perform live renditions of their 13 00:01:02,276 --> 00:01:07,876 Speaker 1: classic hits, including Lafreak, Good Times and Everybody Dance. So 14 00:01:07,956 --> 00:01:09,996 Speaker 1: all the music you will hear in today episode was 15 00:01:10,036 --> 00:01:15,036 Speaker 1: recorded live one take, just for us. In between performances, 16 00:01:15,156 --> 00:01:18,356 Speaker 1: Nile shares exhilarating stories from his life, including how he 17 00:01:18,396 --> 00:01:21,876 Speaker 1: found salvation as a young jazz guitarist whose teenage mom 18 00:01:22,036 --> 00:01:25,876 Speaker 1: struggled with heroin addiction. Nil also talks about the night 19 00:01:25,956 --> 00:01:28,556 Speaker 1: he played old James Brown tunes with Prince and Rolling 20 00:01:28,636 --> 00:01:31,756 Speaker 1: Stones guitarist Ron Wood at a small club in London, 21 00:01:32,196 --> 00:01:34,676 Speaker 1: and Nile explains what it was like going out clubbing 22 00:01:34,676 --> 00:01:39,276 Speaker 1: with Madonna as her star was exploding in the mid eighties. 23 00:01:42,076 --> 00:01:45,236 Speaker 1: This is broken record liner notes for the digital age. 24 00:01:45,476 --> 00:01:49,156 Speaker 1: I'm justin Mitchman. Here's Bruce Edlam and Nile Rodgers from 25 00:01:49,196 --> 00:01:53,356 Speaker 1: New York City's Power Station studio in twenty eighteen. That's 26 00:01:53,356 --> 00:01:56,076 Speaker 1: the original guitar. Yeah, this is it. You still only 27 00:01:56,196 --> 00:01:58,556 Speaker 1: use one guitar? This is it? I only use one guitar. 28 00:01:58,916 --> 00:02:02,556 Speaker 1: Do you only have one? Now? I have two hundred? Okay? 29 00:02:02,756 --> 00:02:07,436 Speaker 1: Do you have nice hollow bodies? Mainly I have. I's 30 00:02:07,436 --> 00:02:10,996 Speaker 1: going to make sure de Angelico d Pristos L five 31 00:02:12,196 --> 00:02:14,516 Speaker 1: Super four hundreds. But this one was when did you 32 00:02:14,556 --> 00:02:19,516 Speaker 1: buy that nineteen seventy three? Wasn't it wasn't an expensive one? 33 00:02:19,556 --> 00:02:21,396 Speaker 1: You put on a no, it's cheap. I didn't, actually, 34 00:02:21,796 --> 00:02:25,556 Speaker 1: So I traded my jazz guitar and they gave me 35 00:02:25,596 --> 00:02:29,236 Speaker 1: this and three hundred dollars. So if in nineteen seventy 36 00:02:29,276 --> 00:02:32,196 Speaker 1: to be imagine giving me three hundred dollars plus a strat, 37 00:02:33,196 --> 00:02:35,556 Speaker 1: like what was the jazz guitar worth in those days? 38 00:02:35,556 --> 00:02:39,036 Speaker 1: Who I mean, even though it's a strat, it's not 39 00:02:39,076 --> 00:02:42,356 Speaker 1: like any other strat. Yeah, it's light, it's a feather. 40 00:02:42,476 --> 00:02:45,916 Speaker 1: It's thinner than anything you've ever seen. It's the nineteenth 41 00:02:46,156 --> 00:02:49,156 Speaker 1: strat that they made in nineteen fifty nine. Look at 42 00:02:49,196 --> 00:02:51,476 Speaker 1: Look at the difference, and just look at look at 43 00:02:51,476 --> 00:02:54,196 Speaker 1: the thickness. So the head stock there, just check it 44 00:02:54,236 --> 00:02:55,676 Speaker 1: out at that, you can see it all the way 45 00:02:55,716 --> 00:02:59,596 Speaker 1: from there. Look at this, Yeah, this one. You can 46 00:02:59,716 --> 00:03:01,556 Speaker 1: big hands though you don't need a you don't need 47 00:03:01,596 --> 00:03:04,996 Speaker 1: a thin Wow, No, I got small hands? You do? 48 00:03:05,316 --> 00:03:08,036 Speaker 1: Oh man, Jesus, you ever see real guitar players like 49 00:03:08,036 --> 00:03:11,916 Speaker 1: these guys like Steve Vy and Ship and Hendrix. Like 50 00:03:12,436 --> 00:03:15,436 Speaker 1: for me when I'm when I'm playing classical guitar, I 51 00:03:16,036 --> 00:03:19,476 Speaker 1: really have to to get this stretch in certain pieces 52 00:03:19,996 --> 00:03:22,356 Speaker 1: that that's a big deal for me. I have my 53 00:03:22,556 --> 00:03:25,036 Speaker 1: finger way down here. Most classical guitar players can still 54 00:03:25,596 --> 00:03:27,636 Speaker 1: you can still see some of their thumb. But me, 55 00:03:28,756 --> 00:03:32,996 Speaker 1: you still practice classical. Not really, there's no point. But 56 00:03:33,156 --> 00:03:37,956 Speaker 1: I just did an orchestral version Let's dance, And I 57 00:03:38,116 --> 00:03:42,916 Speaker 1: had an idea of playing classical guitar, but it felt 58 00:03:42,916 --> 00:03:45,956 Speaker 1: better to have Bully singing with the strings. Was amazing. 59 00:03:46,076 --> 00:03:48,996 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, it's unbelievable. I want to ask you about 60 00:03:49,036 --> 00:03:53,596 Speaker 1: all the songs, but let's start with Let's Dance. I 61 00:03:53,636 --> 00:03:55,196 Speaker 1: want you to tell me about the first time you 62 00:03:55,276 --> 00:04:00,196 Speaker 1: heard the song. Yeah, the very first time David played 63 00:04:00,716 --> 00:04:04,436 Speaker 1: Let's Dance for me. He walked into my bedroom. We 64 00:04:04,516 --> 00:04:09,596 Speaker 1: were in Switzerland, and I believe that he had said 65 00:04:09,716 --> 00:04:12,316 Speaker 1: he had just written it the night before, and he 66 00:04:12,636 --> 00:04:20,836 Speaker 1: um walked into the studio and he played something, um, 67 00:04:20,956 --> 00:04:23,076 Speaker 1: something that sounded like that. You know. I was like, 68 00:04:24,036 --> 00:04:27,796 Speaker 1: and I was like, that was and he was into it, 69 00:04:29,316 --> 00:04:33,516 Speaker 1: um and um. He had the lyrics as well well. 70 00:04:33,516 --> 00:04:38,876 Speaker 1: He just he was singing very um, true to it, 71 00:04:38,916 --> 00:04:42,076 Speaker 1: like he knew what it was. He was singing, Um, 72 00:04:42,196 --> 00:04:48,116 Speaker 1: it's almost hard for me to do it. Um. What 73 00:04:48,196 --> 00:04:56,516 Speaker 1: was he doing? No, I did that. That's what he said. 74 00:04:56,516 --> 00:05:11,476 Speaker 1: He's going, let's stand on the radio nothing something like that. 75 00:05:11,796 --> 00:05:18,476 Speaker 1: Way that's up your face. And then I asked him 76 00:05:18,476 --> 00:05:21,236 Speaker 1: if I could do an arrangement. So I fooled around 77 00:05:21,276 --> 00:05:27,796 Speaker 1: with it and I was going and I knew that 78 00:05:27,836 --> 00:05:29,996 Speaker 1: he liked jazz, so I could put in the jazzy 79 00:05:30,076 --> 00:05:32,516 Speaker 1: chord and I could tell that he would like it 80 00:05:32,596 --> 00:05:35,076 Speaker 1: right away. But then when I moved it from A 81 00:05:35,236 --> 00:05:39,196 Speaker 1: minor up to B flat, it actually had a different vibe. 82 00:05:39,196 --> 00:05:42,676 Speaker 1: It got it got brighter in like and funkier sounding. 83 00:05:42,716 --> 00:05:46,276 Speaker 1: So I started going, you can already hear it like. 84 00:05:50,156 --> 00:05:52,756 Speaker 1: Oh and by the way, when I started playing it, 85 00:05:52,836 --> 00:05:57,996 Speaker 1: I only imitated his just for a few bars. I 86 00:05:58,036 --> 00:06:07,636 Speaker 1: started going, but that still sounded dark. So then I 87 00:06:07,676 --> 00:06:30,876 Speaker 1: moved it up and oct him when I went. But 88 00:06:30,996 --> 00:06:33,756 Speaker 1: because of the whole disco sucks back backlash, I didn't 89 00:06:33,756 --> 00:06:37,996 Speaker 1: want to do chucking on David Poley's album, So you 90 00:06:38,116 --> 00:06:41,356 Speaker 1: ended up slowing it down after that, Um yeah, and 91 00:06:41,516 --> 00:06:45,396 Speaker 1: only playing like So, if you hear the demo that 92 00:06:45,436 --> 00:06:48,116 Speaker 1: I did in Switzerland, I'm chucking. I'm actually playing, you know. 93 00:06:54,836 --> 00:06:57,916 Speaker 1: When you hear the original demo, I'm doing then Rogers thing. 94 00:06:58,276 --> 00:07:01,716 Speaker 1: But when we got to America, I made a conscious 95 00:07:01,716 --> 00:07:05,196 Speaker 1: decision not to do that and had the horns sort 96 00:07:05,236 --> 00:07:08,596 Speaker 1: of doubling me and giving it some punch. And when 97 00:07:08,796 --> 00:07:12,436 Speaker 1: Bow and I walked into the studio, Um, Bob Clearmontain 98 00:07:12,636 --> 00:07:16,516 Speaker 1: was getting the different delays that he was going to 99 00:07:16,676 --> 00:07:19,916 Speaker 1: use on the various instruments on the drums, so we 100 00:07:19,956 --> 00:07:23,316 Speaker 1: wound up having a multi tap delay happening on the guitar. 101 00:07:23,756 --> 00:07:28,836 Speaker 1: So even though all I played was the rhythm that 102 00:07:28,916 --> 00:07:48,396 Speaker 1: you here, winds up sounding something like what the song now, 103 00:07:48,876 --> 00:07:52,396 Speaker 1: Let's Dance. As many fans, it has one very famous 104 00:07:52,436 --> 00:07:55,516 Speaker 1: fan who always wanted to play with you. Um, oh 105 00:07:55,636 --> 00:08:00,356 Speaker 1: my god, Prince is that? Oh my god? Yeah? So 106 00:08:00,516 --> 00:08:03,796 Speaker 1: um for years, I mean, I can't even tell you 107 00:08:03,836 --> 00:08:07,636 Speaker 1: how many years, maybe since the first time I met 108 00:08:07,716 --> 00:08:12,476 Speaker 1: Prince Um. He had asked me to play Let's Dance 109 00:08:12,556 --> 00:08:16,876 Speaker 1: live together somewhere. So we had played live together in 110 00:08:17,076 --> 00:08:22,396 Speaker 1: London at a little club in Camden, and we did 111 00:08:22,436 --> 00:08:25,596 Speaker 1: not play Let's Dance that night, I'm positive of that. 112 00:08:25,956 --> 00:08:30,196 Speaker 1: We played a bunch of James Brown's songs and maybe 113 00:08:30,236 --> 00:08:33,636 Speaker 1: the Ohio Players and some funk songs. When I walked 114 00:08:33,636 --> 00:08:36,316 Speaker 1: into the club, he was playing with Ron Wood and 115 00:08:36,436 --> 00:08:38,676 Speaker 1: I don't know what they were playing. I don't remember. 116 00:08:39,236 --> 00:08:42,796 Speaker 1: I was really pretty high in those days, but they 117 00:08:42,796 --> 00:08:45,596 Speaker 1: were probably playing the blues or jamming on a popular 118 00:08:45,676 --> 00:08:47,876 Speaker 1: rock song Sunshine or Your Love or something like that. 119 00:08:48,356 --> 00:08:52,356 Speaker 1: And then when I walked in, Prince said, whoa, now, Rogers, not, 120 00:08:52,476 --> 00:08:54,956 Speaker 1: this man has the funk. And he gave me his 121 00:08:55,036 --> 00:08:57,396 Speaker 1: guitar and he sat down on the keyboards and we 122 00:08:57,476 --> 00:09:00,036 Speaker 1: just jammed for like I don't even know how long, 123 00:09:00,276 --> 00:09:02,596 Speaker 1: but that felt like one of the most amazing nights 124 00:09:02,596 --> 00:09:07,116 Speaker 1: of my life. And I remember calling the concierge at 125 00:09:07,116 --> 00:09:09,876 Speaker 1: my hotel and asked him if they had purple roses. 126 00:09:10,276 --> 00:09:12,596 Speaker 1: I didn't know if there was, if there was anything 127 00:09:12,596 --> 00:09:15,756 Speaker 1: as a purple rose, if they existed, So I said, 128 00:09:16,076 --> 00:09:18,436 Speaker 1: figure out a way to make them purple, either spray 129 00:09:18,476 --> 00:09:20,756 Speaker 1: paint them or put food coloring in them and send 130 00:09:21,636 --> 00:09:24,156 Speaker 1: I don't know, I was pretty absurd in those days. 131 00:09:24,596 --> 00:09:27,556 Speaker 1: I may have sent like a hundred purple roses to 132 00:09:27,836 --> 00:09:31,836 Speaker 1: Prince's room. Nice. That's crazy, But you ended up playing 133 00:09:31,876 --> 00:09:37,436 Speaker 1: the song, yeah, eventually. So years later he tricked me 134 00:09:37,476 --> 00:09:41,996 Speaker 1: a couple of times. We both were living sort of 135 00:09:41,996 --> 00:09:44,796 Speaker 1: in Turks and Cacos a bit. He bought a house 136 00:09:44,836 --> 00:09:49,236 Speaker 1: down there and I was part of a resort project, 137 00:09:49,756 --> 00:09:53,196 Speaker 1: and one New Year's Eve we played and oh it 138 00:09:53,276 --> 00:09:56,916 Speaker 1: was cool, and John bon Jovie came when John got 139 00:09:56,956 --> 00:09:59,676 Speaker 1: his start here, so John bon Jovi and Prince came 140 00:09:59,676 --> 00:10:01,716 Speaker 1: to the show, and Prince said to me, oh, wow, 141 00:10:01,756 --> 00:10:03,716 Speaker 1: tonight is the night. Now I'll get the play Let's 142 00:10:03,716 --> 00:10:06,116 Speaker 1: stance with you in the band. So we set up 143 00:10:06,116 --> 00:10:08,516 Speaker 1: to set up his amp and everything, did the whole 144 00:10:08,596 --> 00:10:10,396 Speaker 1: sound check. We're ready for Prince to come out and 145 00:10:10,436 --> 00:10:13,716 Speaker 1: play New Year's Eve. The places crowded, everybody's having a 146 00:10:13,756 --> 00:10:16,676 Speaker 1: good time, and we're doing our thing. And I get 147 00:10:16,676 --> 00:10:18,596 Speaker 1: into the middle of the setting. I say, ladies and gentlemen, 148 00:10:19,556 --> 00:10:21,836 Speaker 1: we have a special guest coming out tonight. I think 149 00:10:21,876 --> 00:10:25,516 Speaker 1: you're gonna love this, Prince, and I introduced him and 150 00:10:25,676 --> 00:10:28,076 Speaker 1: the band. We're just standing there, no print. He doesn't 151 00:10:28,076 --> 00:10:31,276 Speaker 1: come out, and I keep introducing him. I go, Prince. 152 00:10:31,796 --> 00:10:35,356 Speaker 1: I don't know if I started screaming press because I 153 00:10:35,476 --> 00:10:38,836 Speaker 1: knew it was there, and someone told me that he 154 00:10:38,956 --> 00:10:43,316 Speaker 1: actually ran and hid because he wouldn't come out. So 155 00:10:43,876 --> 00:10:45,876 Speaker 1: after a while we just said to hell with him. 156 00:10:45,876 --> 00:10:47,996 Speaker 1: We played the song, and then at the end of 157 00:10:48,076 --> 00:10:50,356 Speaker 1: the night, I didn't even ask him. Maybe I asked 158 00:10:50,436 --> 00:10:52,116 Speaker 1: him why he didn't come out or something I don't 159 00:10:52,116 --> 00:10:54,276 Speaker 1: even remember, but we wound up playing. It was great, 160 00:10:54,276 --> 00:10:56,516 Speaker 1: everybody had a good time, but I was embarrassed as hell. 161 00:10:57,076 --> 00:11:00,476 Speaker 1: So now fast forward a year or two later and 162 00:11:00,636 --> 00:11:04,676 Speaker 1: we're playing a show with him at the Superdome in 163 00:11:04,836 --> 00:11:08,436 Speaker 1: Louisiana in New Orleans, and he told us that he 164 00:11:08,476 --> 00:11:10,556 Speaker 1: was going to come out. Now we're in front of 165 00:11:10,596 --> 00:11:14,116 Speaker 1: like seventy thousand people, and I'm not going to be 166 00:11:14,236 --> 00:11:17,436 Speaker 1: this idiot and make the same mistake again. And ladies 167 00:11:17,476 --> 00:11:19,916 Speaker 1: and gentlemen, we have a special guest for you tonight, Prince. 168 00:11:20,116 --> 00:11:21,756 Speaker 1: And then he doesn't come out. And I'm standing in 169 00:11:21,756 --> 00:11:23,796 Speaker 1: front of seventy thousand people and he doesn't come out. 170 00:11:24,076 --> 00:11:26,396 Speaker 1: At least at the resort was only about two hundred, 171 00:11:26,996 --> 00:11:30,156 Speaker 1: so I didn't I didn't introduce him, even though we 172 00:11:30,196 --> 00:11:32,236 Speaker 1: went through the same steps we did sound check. He 173 00:11:32,276 --> 00:11:35,436 Speaker 1: had his am there in the whole bit. So when 174 00:11:35,436 --> 00:11:37,156 Speaker 1: we get into the part of the song where Ralph 175 00:11:37,236 --> 00:11:40,196 Speaker 1: tells the whole crowd to jump, Jump, Jump, I'm standing 176 00:11:40,196 --> 00:11:42,276 Speaker 1: on the stage and I'm jumping up and down, and 177 00:11:42,316 --> 00:11:46,476 Speaker 1: then I hear this crowd like, give this loud roar wow, 178 00:11:46,796 --> 00:11:50,596 Speaker 1: And I look to my left and there's Print jumping 179 00:11:50,716 --> 00:11:53,036 Speaker 1: with me, jumping up and holding his hand up in 180 00:11:53,076 --> 00:11:56,076 Speaker 1: the air, and the crowd freaks out. And then we 181 00:11:56,196 --> 00:11:58,196 Speaker 1: go into the next bit and he takes over and 182 00:11:58,236 --> 00:12:02,156 Speaker 1: starts sewing and it's just killing. It's so good. So 183 00:12:02,316 --> 00:12:04,156 Speaker 1: he did a little bit of like the sort of 184 00:12:04,196 --> 00:12:06,436 Speaker 1: Stevie ay Vaughan kind of thing, but then he went 185 00:12:06,476 --> 00:12:09,156 Speaker 1: into like just chucking with me, and that's what I 186 00:12:09,276 --> 00:12:11,556 Speaker 1: got nuts. And you can go online and see it. 187 00:12:11,556 --> 00:12:14,796 Speaker 1: It's on YouTube. It's so great. We'll have more with 188 00:12:14,876 --> 00:12:21,956 Speaker 1: Bruce Headlam and Nile Rodgers after the break. We're back 189 00:12:21,996 --> 00:12:49,356 Speaker 1: with Bruce Headlam, Nile Rodgers and Cheek. Now. I looked up, 190 00:12:49,476 --> 00:12:51,596 Speaker 1: and this is for the music nerds out there. I 191 00:12:51,636 --> 00:12:56,316 Speaker 1: looked up the chords to Everybody Dance, and it's a 192 00:12:56,436 --> 00:13:00,476 Speaker 1: C minor seventh, B flat eleven, B flat eleven. I 193 00:13:00,516 --> 00:13:02,196 Speaker 1: should let you tell the chords. You know, the chords 194 00:13:02,916 --> 00:13:05,956 Speaker 1: C minus seven, B flat eleven to C eleven A 195 00:13:06,116 --> 00:13:09,476 Speaker 1: flat major seven. Now this chord, you can spell it 196 00:13:09,596 --> 00:13:13,116 Speaker 1: a number of ways. I like to think of it 197 00:13:13,596 --> 00:13:16,276 Speaker 1: as a minor seven with a raise five, or a 198 00:13:16,676 --> 00:13:22,556 Speaker 1: minor a minor seven flat thirteen, but most people would 199 00:13:22,556 --> 00:13:25,196 Speaker 1: probably call it a D minor eleven with an A 200 00:13:25,356 --> 00:13:29,636 Speaker 1: in the base. UM to a B flat eleven, And 201 00:13:29,676 --> 00:13:33,796 Speaker 1: the reason for that is because um, I wanted to 202 00:13:33,796 --> 00:13:42,396 Speaker 1: have this chromatic movement. So right, so it goes to 203 00:13:42,676 --> 00:14:24,236 Speaker 1: everybody dances, do do do do? Clap your hands. Okay, 204 00:14:24,276 --> 00:14:26,916 Speaker 1: you're a serious jazz guy. Yeah, nobody else would do 205 00:14:26,916 --> 00:14:28,956 Speaker 1: it that way. I don't do do do? You do 206 00:14:29,036 --> 00:14:31,036 Speaker 1: all your songs that way? It is it that kind 207 00:14:31,076 --> 00:14:33,836 Speaker 1: of chording I like to think. So, I mean, look 208 00:14:33,836 --> 00:14:35,756 Speaker 1: at Let's dance? How cool that is? I mean that's 209 00:14:36,436 --> 00:14:39,636 Speaker 1: um that. I guess that's somewhat of a trademark of mine, 210 00:14:39,716 --> 00:14:45,756 Speaker 1: putting different types of jazzy chords and cool voicings. Um 211 00:14:45,756 --> 00:14:48,676 Speaker 1: in pop songs, you know, look at Diana Ross and 212 00:14:48,836 --> 00:14:51,316 Speaker 1: I'm Coming Out and all that stuff. And you also, 213 00:14:51,596 --> 00:14:53,956 Speaker 1: was everybody dance the first time? You used to break down? 214 00:14:54,836 --> 00:15:00,916 Speaker 1: And um, no, breakdowns were actually quite common in our 215 00:15:00,996 --> 00:15:05,596 Speaker 1: live shows. Um, it was just the first time I 216 00:15:05,756 --> 00:15:08,476 Speaker 1: did it when I was recording and I was the boss. 217 00:15:09,476 --> 00:15:11,636 Speaker 1: Every other time that I recorded, I was not the boss, 218 00:15:11,676 --> 00:15:14,316 Speaker 1: so I didn't have any control of it. Yeah, And 219 00:15:14,476 --> 00:15:16,356 Speaker 1: was that from jazz? Like breaking it down like that 220 00:15:16,396 --> 00:15:18,596 Speaker 1: head kind of rebuilding? That's an R and B thing. 221 00:15:18,676 --> 00:15:20,996 Speaker 1: It's a it's an R and B disco thing. It's 222 00:15:21,036 --> 00:15:23,236 Speaker 1: a common R and B move. You would hear a 223 00:15:23,276 --> 00:15:25,396 Speaker 1: lot of R and B bands breakdown and go now 224 00:15:25,436 --> 00:15:27,476 Speaker 1: I want to talk to ladies for me, or I 225 00:15:27,516 --> 00:15:29,356 Speaker 1: want to talk to you, or like Earth when and 226 00:15:29,396 --> 00:15:31,236 Speaker 1: Fire when you hear them say pop, I want to 227 00:15:31,276 --> 00:15:33,356 Speaker 1: talk to you about things I see every day, you know, 228 00:15:33,356 --> 00:15:36,556 Speaker 1: and they break down on the record. It's all about 229 00:15:37,276 --> 00:15:39,316 Speaker 1: So it was very common in R and B to 230 00:15:39,396 --> 00:16:24,796 Speaker 1: do that. I want to talk a bit about good times. 231 00:16:24,916 --> 00:16:28,436 Speaker 1: You said in an interview once that all your songs 232 00:16:28,476 --> 00:16:32,116 Speaker 1: are nonfiction, absolutely, and they're often about things that you 233 00:16:32,196 --> 00:16:35,956 Speaker 1: want to see happen. Can you tell me what good times? Yes? 234 00:16:36,556 --> 00:16:42,076 Speaker 1: So when we wrote Good Times in America, at the time, 235 00:16:42,116 --> 00:16:46,516 Speaker 1: we were in the midst of the greatest financial recession 236 00:16:46,676 --> 00:16:50,116 Speaker 1: since the Great Depression. We had gas rationing, you know, 237 00:16:50,236 --> 00:16:53,316 Speaker 1: I mean if you lived in New York State, I remember, 238 00:16:53,396 --> 00:16:56,076 Speaker 1: if you're a license plate ended with an even number, 239 00:16:56,116 --> 00:16:57,996 Speaker 1: you can get gas on a certain day or an 240 00:16:57,996 --> 00:17:04,316 Speaker 1: odd number a different day. So times were sort of hard, 241 00:17:05,036 --> 00:17:08,556 Speaker 1: and we thought, well, what other period in American history 242 00:17:09,196 --> 00:17:12,796 Speaker 1: seemed to feel like that? And we went wow, you know, 243 00:17:13,636 --> 00:17:16,636 Speaker 1: the Roaring twenties and the you know, the the Great 244 00:17:16,636 --> 00:17:19,596 Speaker 1: Depression and that sort of jazz era and the whole 245 00:17:19,636 --> 00:17:23,156 Speaker 1: thing about dance marathons, and that's why we came up 246 00:17:23,156 --> 00:17:25,316 Speaker 1: with the whole yas y'alls the thing on dance, dance dance. 247 00:17:25,476 --> 00:17:28,476 Speaker 1: The whole concept of the first few Chic albums was 248 00:17:28,516 --> 00:17:33,796 Speaker 1: all jazz era stuff and h on risque. When we 249 00:17:33,796 --> 00:17:37,276 Speaker 1: finally did Good Times, we were confident enough in our 250 00:17:37,316 --> 00:17:41,396 Speaker 1: band to now sort of expose our formula to the world. 251 00:17:42,076 --> 00:17:47,396 Speaker 1: So the lyrics to Good Times were sort of ripped 252 00:17:47,436 --> 00:17:51,876 Speaker 1: off from Al Jolson and the song that they used 253 00:17:51,916 --> 00:17:58,796 Speaker 1: to sing after Prohibition when they were happy Day and 254 00:17:58,836 --> 00:18:03,796 Speaker 1: then time and any dang about quarter to night. So 255 00:18:03,876 --> 00:18:08,636 Speaker 1: we go, happy, happy Days are here again. Right, that 256 00:18:08,796 --> 00:18:11,436 Speaker 1: was we start right with it. So we are obvious 257 00:18:14,196 --> 00:18:27,676 Speaker 1: again times. Right, let's get together, Let's do it again. 258 00:18:30,436 --> 00:18:42,436 Speaker 1: Because Good Times came out at a particular political time 259 00:18:42,956 --> 00:18:45,636 Speaker 1: because the Disco Sucks movement had come they had the 260 00:18:46,116 --> 00:18:50,276 Speaker 1: riot in Chicago. Yeah, um, summer of seventy nine. What 261 00:18:50,316 --> 00:18:52,676 Speaker 1: did that feel like for you? Well, it was really 262 00:18:52,676 --> 00:18:57,116 Speaker 1: interesting because it was sort of like a biphasic kind 263 00:18:57,156 --> 00:19:00,196 Speaker 1: of feeling because when we found out about it, we 264 00:19:00,196 --> 00:19:04,556 Speaker 1: were on an airplane flying from Europe back to America. 265 00:19:04,796 --> 00:19:09,476 Speaker 1: So it happened while we were away, and we didn't 266 00:19:09,476 --> 00:19:11,556 Speaker 1: think of ourselves as a disco band. I mean, listen 267 00:19:11,636 --> 00:19:15,356 Speaker 1: to every chic album. We have ballads, everyone has an instrumental. 268 00:19:15,436 --> 00:19:19,436 Speaker 1: It's always a jazzy, you know type of thing. The 269 00:19:19,636 --> 00:19:22,876 Speaker 1: Diana Ross album is incredibly As far as the composers, 270 00:19:23,276 --> 00:19:26,316 Speaker 1: I gotta say that that's really unique. There's nothing I've 271 00:19:26,356 --> 00:19:29,796 Speaker 1: ever written that sounds like that before or after. That 272 00:19:29,916 --> 00:19:33,036 Speaker 1: was purely written for Diana Ross. I mean, you listen 273 00:19:33,076 --> 00:19:35,916 Speaker 1: to a song like I'm coming Out, and I mean 274 00:19:36,076 --> 00:19:43,116 Speaker 1: I have a fanfare in there. I mean, we're When 275 00:19:43,156 --> 00:19:45,836 Speaker 1: we first saw Diana Ross, Bernard walked with me and said, wow, 276 00:19:45,836 --> 00:19:48,556 Speaker 1: look at that. She's like our black queen. So I 277 00:19:48,636 --> 00:19:51,876 Speaker 1: kept that in my head and when I wrote that fanfare, 278 00:19:52,836 --> 00:19:54,996 Speaker 1: I said to Diana, I said, look, you know, like 279 00:19:55,036 --> 00:19:57,196 Speaker 1: when the President of the United States walked walks in 280 00:19:57,196 --> 00:19:59,756 Speaker 1: the room, they go dad, Hail to the Chief. I said, 281 00:19:59,796 --> 00:20:04,596 Speaker 1: this is your fanfare. And I told her, I says, 282 00:20:04,636 --> 00:20:07,876 Speaker 1: you will never start a show without this song ever 283 00:20:08,196 --> 00:20:10,636 Speaker 1: the rest of your life. And now we see thirty 284 00:20:10,636 --> 00:20:12,676 Speaker 1: five years later, I was right. She would never start 285 00:20:12,756 --> 00:20:15,076 Speaker 1: to show without playing out Coming Out at the beginning 286 00:20:15,076 --> 00:20:17,836 Speaker 1: of her show. Although one of your most famous songs, 287 00:20:18,476 --> 00:20:21,996 Speaker 1: the Freak, is actually about being rejected at a disco. Correct, 288 00:20:22,876 --> 00:20:25,916 Speaker 1: Can you tell that story quick? Yeah? So our first song, 289 00:20:25,996 --> 00:20:30,476 Speaker 1: Everybody Dance, was the real sort of super cool club 290 00:20:30,556 --> 00:20:34,956 Speaker 1: song on our first album. Even though Dance Dance Dance 291 00:20:35,116 --> 00:20:38,636 Speaker 1: was popular and was big on the radio and was 292 00:20:39,316 --> 00:20:42,916 Speaker 1: platinum twelve inch, I mean it was huge, it was 293 00:20:43,036 --> 00:20:48,396 Speaker 1: Everybody Dance that really secured our vibe as a cool, hip, 294 00:20:48,476 --> 00:20:52,876 Speaker 1: underground dance group. And so Grace Jones had heard Everybody 295 00:20:52,956 --> 00:20:55,436 Speaker 1: Dance and she was a fan of that song, and 296 00:20:55,556 --> 00:20:59,836 Speaker 1: she was thinking about having these two young new producers 297 00:21:00,156 --> 00:21:03,756 Speaker 1: do what would then be her next album. She said 298 00:21:03,796 --> 00:21:07,796 Speaker 1: that the only way we could truly understand her artistically 299 00:21:07,956 --> 00:21:10,236 Speaker 1: is to see her live show. Then we really would 300 00:21:10,356 --> 00:21:13,516 Speaker 1: understand who Grace Jones is. But the problem was we 301 00:21:13,556 --> 00:21:15,996 Speaker 1: had only spoken to her that one time. We never 302 00:21:16,076 --> 00:21:19,036 Speaker 1: met her. We were on the phone. So Grace has 303 00:21:19,036 --> 00:21:21,996 Speaker 1: a very unique accent. She's the only one on earth 304 00:21:22,036 --> 00:21:24,956 Speaker 1: that sounds like that, and she says, so darling. But 305 00:21:25,116 --> 00:21:27,076 Speaker 1: you go to the back door and you tell them 306 00:21:27,076 --> 00:21:29,436 Speaker 1: your personal friends of miss Grace Jones, and they would 307 00:21:29,476 --> 00:21:32,516 Speaker 1: let you in so we did that with that accent, 308 00:21:33,116 --> 00:21:36,516 Speaker 1: and the guy slams the door in our faces. And 309 00:21:36,556 --> 00:21:39,036 Speaker 1: while he's slamming the door, he's going, oh, fuck off, 310 00:21:39,516 --> 00:21:41,396 Speaker 1: and we said no, no, no, no no, no, we're kicking 311 00:21:41,436 --> 00:21:43,556 Speaker 1: the door again because now we had to be above 312 00:21:43,596 --> 00:21:45,716 Speaker 1: the level of the music. Now once we finally got 313 00:21:45,716 --> 00:21:48,516 Speaker 1: his attention, so we wanted to get him before he 314 00:21:48,676 --> 00:21:51,516 Speaker 1: walked away from the door. So we kicked really hard 315 00:21:51,716 --> 00:21:54,796 Speaker 1: and he said, you know, he reiterated what he had said, 316 00:21:54,796 --> 00:21:57,396 Speaker 1: I told you the f off, so we knew we 317 00:21:57,396 --> 00:21:59,196 Speaker 1: weren't going to get in. It was New Year's Eve 318 00:21:59,436 --> 00:22:05,356 Speaker 1: seventy seven going into seventy eight, and we were walking 319 00:22:05,396 --> 00:22:08,196 Speaker 1: back to my apartment, which is on fifty second Street 320 00:22:08,196 --> 00:22:10,636 Speaker 1: between eight and nine, and to get there we had 321 00:22:10,676 --> 00:22:13,396 Speaker 1: to pass a liquor store, so we bought two bottles 322 00:22:13,396 --> 00:22:15,476 Speaker 1: of damper On, which in those days we called it 323 00:22:15,556 --> 00:22:19,116 Speaker 1: rock and roll mouthwash. We bought two bottles of DP 324 00:22:19,836 --> 00:22:21,876 Speaker 1: and went to my house and we downed them so 325 00:22:21,956 --> 00:22:25,756 Speaker 1: fast we got really light headed, and we turned his 326 00:22:26,356 --> 00:22:45,596 Speaker 1: rejection phrase f off into shriek out. We went, oh, well, 327 00:22:45,636 --> 00:22:47,516 Speaker 1: when we first wrote it, we wrote a whole song 328 00:22:48,036 --> 00:22:52,556 Speaker 1: using the original lyric and thinking of every situation where 329 00:22:52,556 --> 00:22:57,756 Speaker 1: the appropriate response would be fuck up. So we're playing no, no, 330 00:22:58,036 --> 00:23:00,676 Speaker 1: if a cab driver cuts you off, don't, don't fuck up. 331 00:23:03,316 --> 00:23:05,236 Speaker 1: And I remember saying, if your mother asked you to 332 00:23:05,276 --> 00:23:08,956 Speaker 1: do homework, fuck up. And we were into, were laughing, 333 00:23:09,116 --> 00:23:12,756 Speaker 1: feeling great, and then finally my partner Bernard's I'm a man, 334 00:23:13,476 --> 00:23:16,676 Speaker 1: you notice is happening and I'm like a Bernard. You know, 335 00:23:16,956 --> 00:23:19,796 Speaker 1: this is two years before hip hop. We can't get 336 00:23:19,876 --> 00:23:22,556 Speaker 1: you know, a radio record on the radio that's got 337 00:23:22,596 --> 00:23:27,916 Speaker 1: the F bomb in it. But somehow we wound up 338 00:23:28,156 --> 00:23:57,396 Speaker 1: with freak up. We have to take a quick break 339 00:23:57,516 --> 00:24:00,236 Speaker 1: right here, but we'll be right back with Bruce Headlam 340 00:24:00,316 --> 00:24:06,956 Speaker 1: and Nil Rogers. We're back with Bruce Headlam, Nil Rogers 341 00:24:07,156 --> 00:24:11,676 Speaker 1: and Chic. You mentioned that you and Bernard didn't see 342 00:24:11,676 --> 00:24:14,836 Speaker 1: yourselves as stars as frontman and you saw a chic 343 00:24:14,956 --> 00:24:19,156 Speaker 1: very much as this organization. Yes, you've built this incredible career, 344 00:24:19,196 --> 00:24:22,756 Speaker 1: You've had hits literally in every decade since you started 345 00:24:23,716 --> 00:24:28,396 Speaker 1: by being this great collaborator. Why does collaboration seem to 346 00:24:28,476 --> 00:24:31,356 Speaker 1: mean more to you than being the front man? Because 347 00:24:31,796 --> 00:24:36,036 Speaker 1: as a composer, I write for ensembles. That's what I hear. 348 00:24:37,236 --> 00:24:39,996 Speaker 1: The only time I could ever think of writing a 349 00:24:39,996 --> 00:24:47,476 Speaker 1: composition that was actually recorded and performed for either a soloist, 350 00:24:48,196 --> 00:24:52,116 Speaker 1: a solo instrument, or maybe a duet. It's just for films. 351 00:24:52,356 --> 00:24:55,476 Speaker 1: I can coming to America write this queue where they 352 00:24:55,476 --> 00:24:57,836 Speaker 1: go the Royal Penis is clean, your Highness, and it's 353 00:24:57,836 --> 00:25:02,116 Speaker 1: just like a pan flute, you know, pan flute and harp. 354 00:25:03,476 --> 00:25:06,356 Speaker 1: And then in the movie called Soup for One, I 355 00:25:06,636 --> 00:25:10,316 Speaker 1: do this thing called Tavern on the Green and it's 356 00:25:10,396 --> 00:25:16,596 Speaker 1: just me playing classical guitar along with a Yamaha CSAD 357 00:25:16,716 --> 00:25:19,916 Speaker 1: synthesizer with my keyboard player. But those are the only 358 00:25:19,996 --> 00:25:22,836 Speaker 1: duets that I've ever really recorded. Everything else is for 359 00:25:22,996 --> 00:25:25,356 Speaker 1: a bunch of a room full of people. But in 360 00:25:25,396 --> 00:25:28,836 Speaker 1: your autobiography, which I'm going to recommend everybody because it's 361 00:25:29,756 --> 00:25:33,076 Speaker 1: it really is this incredible life story and it is 362 00:25:33,276 --> 00:25:36,036 Speaker 1: it's sort of James Baldwin and Charles Dickens wrote a 363 00:25:36,076 --> 00:25:39,796 Speaker 1: book together. It may start to approach your You know, 364 00:25:39,836 --> 00:25:43,196 Speaker 1: you had a very you come back to this a 365 00:25:43,316 --> 00:25:48,276 Speaker 1: very lonely life. Yeah, you're around your parents or your 366 00:25:48,316 --> 00:25:51,236 Speaker 1: stepfather and your mother, whom you love dearly, but who 367 00:25:51,276 --> 00:25:53,956 Speaker 1: would send you on bus rides across the country by yourself, 368 00:25:54,236 --> 00:25:57,476 Speaker 1: who often left you alone. And they were heroin attics. 369 00:25:57,516 --> 00:26:00,916 Speaker 1: I mean they were in pursuit of their number one love. 370 00:26:01,956 --> 00:26:04,316 Speaker 1: And when when someone first tuned your guitar and you 371 00:26:04,396 --> 00:26:07,436 Speaker 1: played I think a day Day life, right, and you 372 00:26:07,516 --> 00:26:09,396 Speaker 1: thought I'm going to be Were you thinking I want 373 00:26:09,436 --> 00:26:10,636 Speaker 1: to be a star? I want to be up on 374 00:26:10,756 --> 00:26:15,036 Speaker 1: snow No, no, no no. Prior to that, I had 375 00:26:15,076 --> 00:26:18,796 Speaker 1: only really played classical music, so I just wanted to 376 00:26:18,836 --> 00:26:20,516 Speaker 1: be part of a symphony orchestra. I used to play 377 00:26:20,516 --> 00:26:22,916 Speaker 1: the clarinet, which is funny now because if I tried 378 00:26:22,916 --> 00:26:26,276 Speaker 1: to play the clarinet it would probably sound hysterical. But 379 00:26:27,036 --> 00:26:28,916 Speaker 1: my dream when I was a kid was to be 380 00:26:28,956 --> 00:26:31,396 Speaker 1: a part of Maybe that's what it's all about it 381 00:26:31,436 --> 00:26:33,356 Speaker 1: because I've always wanted to be part of an orchestra, 382 00:26:33,436 --> 00:26:36,516 Speaker 1: to be part of an organization, and because in a 383 00:26:36,516 --> 00:26:40,756 Speaker 1: big symphony orchestra, basically you could hide, but you know 384 00:26:40,836 --> 00:26:43,116 Speaker 1: every now and you might get a great solo, you know. 385 00:26:43,916 --> 00:26:47,396 Speaker 1: So that was sort of my dream growing up. I 386 00:26:47,476 --> 00:26:50,436 Speaker 1: wanted to emulate my biological father, who was always just 387 00:26:50,876 --> 00:26:54,036 Speaker 1: a percussionist with bands. He was never like the guy 388 00:26:54,076 --> 00:26:57,636 Speaker 1: out front, like Tito point there or something. But you 389 00:26:57,756 --> 00:27:01,116 Speaker 1: like that sense of anonymity, yeah, because it was the 390 00:27:01,156 --> 00:27:05,836 Speaker 1: way that I never felt attractive or anything like that. 391 00:27:06,916 --> 00:27:10,356 Speaker 1: And when you looked at stars, stars were always like 392 00:27:10,396 --> 00:27:13,236 Speaker 1: you know, they walk into the room. You know. I 393 00:27:13,276 --> 00:27:15,556 Speaker 1: remember I used to walk into a club with Madonna. 394 00:27:15,676 --> 00:27:18,356 Speaker 1: Now I'm born in New York, knew every club owner 395 00:27:18,556 --> 00:27:21,636 Speaker 1: in town, and I'd walk into a club with Madonna 396 00:27:21,716 --> 00:27:24,996 Speaker 1: and she was relatively unknown, and people go, hey, who's 397 00:27:24,996 --> 00:27:26,676 Speaker 1: that girl with Now who's that girl? You hear it 398 00:27:26,796 --> 00:27:29,436 Speaker 1: then like who's that girl? Who's that girl? Now? Who's 399 00:27:29,476 --> 00:27:33,476 Speaker 1: that girl? And she was unknown, but that's because she 400 00:27:33,556 --> 00:27:35,836 Speaker 1: was a star. She felt like a star from the 401 00:27:35,876 --> 00:27:37,956 Speaker 1: moment you met her. She you know, they just have 402 00:27:38,156 --> 00:27:41,036 Speaker 1: that thing, Bowie, it's a star. He walks in the 403 00:27:41,116 --> 00:27:45,156 Speaker 1: room and like wow, they just you know, you could 404 00:27:45,236 --> 00:27:47,756 Speaker 1: feel it, so I knew. I never It's funny. I 405 00:27:47,796 --> 00:27:50,396 Speaker 1: always laugh. I say, you know, if I walk into 406 00:27:50,436 --> 00:27:52,836 Speaker 1: a room with Lady Gaga, people go, oh my God, 407 00:27:52,836 --> 00:27:55,396 Speaker 1: there's Lady God. Then he go wow God, Then he go, 408 00:27:55,436 --> 00:28:00,596 Speaker 1: hey Nile, you want to be the Hey Nile guy. 409 00:28:00,796 --> 00:28:03,196 Speaker 1: I like being here now, so like I've done, you know, 410 00:28:03,276 --> 00:28:06,676 Speaker 1: maybe almost like uh, I mean I heard the other 411 00:28:06,756 --> 00:28:10,116 Speaker 1: day they said like fifteen thousand, eight hundred and eight 412 00:28:10,156 --> 00:28:15,156 Speaker 1: recording something insane but still like walking through. Hey, n man, 413 00:28:15,196 --> 00:28:20,996 Speaker 1: are you doing? I think think Fran might beat me 414 00:28:21,076 --> 00:28:25,036 Speaker 1: up if you guys go any farther. Um and I 415 00:28:25,076 --> 00:28:26,796 Speaker 1: would stay here all day. We only have one more 416 00:28:26,836 --> 00:28:28,756 Speaker 1: song to talk about that Daft Punk. But I think 417 00:28:28,796 --> 00:28:36,516 Speaker 1: we're okay. All right. That was unplugged. That was just fantastic. 418 00:28:37,076 --> 00:28:39,236 Speaker 1: Thank you. Bruce and Nile didn't have time to talk 419 00:28:39,276 --> 00:28:41,876 Speaker 1: about the Daft Punk song Get Lucky that Nile played 420 00:28:41,916 --> 00:28:45,236 Speaker 1: on and co wrote, but Chic did perform it for us. 421 00:28:45,676 --> 00:29:01,076 Speaker 1: So here it is in its entirety, like the legend 422 00:29:03,076 --> 00:29:27,196 Speaker 1: the fan all lives with beginning, what keeps the planet spinning, 423 00:29:27,356 --> 00:29:47,876 Speaker 1: the fall from the beginning because came to far to 424 00:29:48,476 --> 00:30:09,276 Speaker 1: give star right by and come to die. She's I'm 425 00:30:09,316 --> 00:30:12,276 Speaker 1: back to the Sun. I'm a fun back to get home. 426 00:30:12,716 --> 00:30:17,196 Speaker 1: She's a fun night fun, I'm a mom dage. We're 427 00:30:17,196 --> 00:30:20,876 Speaker 1: a found night to the sun. Were mount again down 428 00:30:21,916 --> 00:30:26,996 Speaker 1: night Mine run night together, Lucky, We're up fun nice again. Up, 429 00:30:27,516 --> 00:30:30,916 Speaker 1: We're up fum nice again. Luck, We're ubout Night get 430 00:30:31,036 --> 00:30:53,316 Speaker 1: lucky night together, Lucky bag and no river my shucket 431 00:30:53,636 --> 00:30:59,436 Speaker 1: keep funking man, Yeah, what is the time to la? 432 00:31:01,276 --> 00:31:10,196 Speaker 1: If you want to leave my wet come by to 433 00:31:10,476 --> 00:31:28,276 Speaker 1: give far And I'm a fun song. She's a fun 434 00:31:28,996 --> 00:31:34,036 Speaker 1: fun from a fun fun light of the sun. I'm 435 00:31:34,076 --> 00:31:36,716 Speaker 1: a fun night to get song with a fun night 436 00:31:36,836 --> 00:31:39,596 Speaker 1: for the fun or up fun night to get lucky 437 00:31:39,996 --> 00:31:42,716 Speaker 1: from my fun night to get lucky. We're up fun 438 00:31:42,756 --> 00:31:45,756 Speaker 1: night to get lucky. We're up one night to get lucky, 439 00:31:46,116 --> 00:32:24,636 Speaker 1: grow up on lack to get lucky. Ship she to 440 00:32:24,916 --> 00:32:42,276 Speaker 1: get back the sun from a pumack. So she's a 441 00:32:42,436 --> 00:32:46,876 Speaker 1: funda for the fun about sometime lucky. We're up that 442 00:32:47,036 --> 00:32:51,036 Speaker 1: of the sun, were up the son. We're up back 443 00:32:51,116 --> 00:32:55,116 Speaker 1: of the fun. We're upun back together. We're un night 444 00:32:55,196 --> 00:32:59,276 Speaker 1: to gel lucky. We're up lucky. We're upun back to 445 00:32:59,396 --> 00:33:03,436 Speaker 1: get lucky. We're up gel lucky. We're up night to 446 00:33:03,516 --> 00:33:06,756 Speaker 1: get lay sure up night to get lovey for a 447 00:33:06,876 --> 00:33:11,516 Speaker 1: full night to get laughing my lucky. We're fun to 448 00:33:11,596 --> 00:33:14,796 Speaker 1: get lucky. We're a fun time to get lucky. We're 449 00:33:14,916 --> 00:33:17,516 Speaker 1: up fun time to get lucky. We're up found time 450 00:33:17,596 --> 00:33:20,316 Speaker 1: to get lucky. We're U found time to get lucky. 451 00:33:20,676 --> 00:33:23,636 Speaker 1: We're found time to get lucky. We're a found night 452 00:33:23,716 --> 00:33:28,436 Speaker 1: to get lucky. We're fun time to geen, come too 453 00:33:28,596 --> 00:33:36,876 Speaker 1: far to get up who we are? So let's raise 454 00:33:36,956 --> 00:33:51,356 Speaker 1: the bar in the car to start. Thanks to now 455 00:33:51,476 --> 00:33:54,396 Speaker 1: Rogers for the incredible stories and Too Chic for the 456 00:33:54,516 --> 00:33:58,996 Speaker 1: performances we heard now Rogers on guitar and vocals, Ralph 457 00:33:59,156 --> 00:34:03,116 Speaker 1: Roll on drums, Kim Davis and Flami on vocals, Rich 458 00:34:03,196 --> 00:34:06,676 Speaker 1: Hilton and Russell Graham on keyboards, and Steve Janowski and 459 00:34:06,796 --> 00:34:09,596 Speaker 1: Brendan Wright on horns. Than You Year all of our 460 00:34:09,636 --> 00:34:12,516 Speaker 1: favorite Chic and now Rogers produced songs on a playlist 461 00:34:12,556 --> 00:34:15,916 Speaker 1: at broken Record podcast dot com. 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