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Speaker 1: When you're a guest in my home, you gotta come

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Speaker 2: I already had too much stuff, So how did you dare.

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Speaker 3: To surbey me?

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Speaker 4: Welcome to I said, no gifts. I'm Richard Wineker. My

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Speaker 4: life is in shambles. Where you know, we're recording here

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Speaker 4: amidst the rain disaster that I've been living through the

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Speaker 4: you're going to feel that throughout the episode. You're not

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Speaker 4: going to be comfortable. You're not going to be at ease,

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Speaker 4: so just please bear with me. We have to talk

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Speaker 4: to today's guest, and it's he's kind of making history

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Speaker 4: on the podcast. He's the first guest to return for

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Speaker 4: a full episode. Unbelievable. It's who knows how this happened.

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Speaker 4: It's Jeff Loveness.

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Speaker 3: Great to be back in the cage with you. Bridger

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Speaker 3: can't stay why?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: How, I mean, where is the damage?

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Speaker 1: Where?

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Speaker 3: Because I've been here before, doesn't look too different? He's

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Speaker 3: flee seen you readers, that's why he want I mean,

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Speaker 3: you've seen all the gofundmes, the.

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Speaker 4: Vigil Send donations wherever you can. I have a mailing address,

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Speaker 4: I've got Patreon. If you've got church groups driving trucks

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Speaker 4: here to drop offs, I'll take whatever, in whatever form.

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Speaker 4: I'm grateful for any donation, anything you can offer. Okay,

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Speaker 4: So the flooding is in my office, my back office.

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Speaker 4: Oh slash man cave.

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Speaker 3: Well you're right, Well, yeah, we got we have new

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Speaker 3: guy moves to talk about. The last episode was all

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Speaker 4: Terry Hatcher, there were several celebrities that I'm kind of

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Speaker 3: You gotta stop putting your PlayStation five's there, Yeah, just

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Speaker 4: Well, I'm running a business. I'm scalping them on eBay

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Speaker 4: and no, but it was flooding and I bought a

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Speaker 4: Small shut down about every four minutes, so when you're

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Speaker 4: It was very bad, and I refused to break it

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Speaker 4: They do not allow this man to return a single

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Speaker 4: me my money saving nightmare.

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Speaker 3: No, I'm the same way. Don't You always get like

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Speaker 4: Damn it now I thought two of them.

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Speaker 3: I can't get the small town kid out of me,

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Speaker 4: It really, I mean, it's every element of my life,

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Speaker 4: my life. I'm essentially Joe, but you commit what happened

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Speaker 3: But myself, so it's not your fault. Like they also

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Speaker 4: Feels desperate?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, well, I feel actually desperate on your end. I

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Speaker 4: end of the heavy lifting of this movie, right, and

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Speaker 4: despite my best efforts, they're now going to release the movie.

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Speaker 3: You've been waging a campaign against ant maneing everything I can,

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Speaker 3: weeks after this episode releases, when is It's Bridger? This

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Speaker 3: Every male celebrity seems to be wearing like a weird

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Speaker 3: You know me, I'm minimalistic, I'm simple. Part of me

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Speaker 4: This is a very glove focused podcast. I can definitely

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Speaker 4: I mean, it's it's about eleven am on a Sunday

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Speaker 4: Growing up your church. Would you dress up to go

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Speaker 3: No? No, it was like it was like Noracal rural

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Speaker 4: It's awful, little monster. Oh boy, I'm just remembering now

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Speaker 3: And man in the wast quantomania problem, that's the biggest

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Speaker 4: every good boy deserves fudge.

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Speaker 4: Or something, Every good boy deserves sponge. It's a good

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Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, And it's fun. I did realize like writing

439
00:21:24,880 --> 00:21:28,760
Speaker 3: these kind of movies, like superhero movie scores are pretty

440
00:21:28,800 --> 00:21:31,080
Speaker 3: like elemental and simple in a fun way. It's like

441
00:21:31,119 --> 00:21:34,280
Speaker 3: you kind of know how a Batman score goes. You're Superman,

442
00:21:34,720 --> 00:21:38,200
Speaker 3: and so it's fun just to write really dog shit

443
00:21:38,440 --> 00:21:41,120
Speaker 3: versions of superhero themes to you that you'll never show anyone.

444
00:21:41,480 --> 00:21:44,040
Speaker 3: But it's like, hmm, that's my little Cane the Conqueror

445
00:21:44,080 --> 00:21:47,280
Speaker 3: theme just for me. It gets you and I found it.

446
00:21:47,359 --> 00:21:49,359
Speaker 3: It gets me into the mode where I'm now writing

447
00:21:49,400 --> 00:21:53,280
Speaker 3: a movie with like fifty characters. I'm like, oh, it's

448
00:21:53,320 --> 00:21:56,560
Speaker 3: my little uh I feel like theme here, like I

449
00:21:56,920 --> 00:21:59,120
Speaker 3: noodle it out. I'm like, that's just for us.

450
00:22:00,280 --> 00:22:03,360
Speaker 4: I think Marvel should like there was the Snyder cut,

451
00:22:03,359 --> 00:22:06,240
Speaker 4: there should be the Loveness score of ant Man, or

452
00:22:06,320 --> 00:22:08,240
Speaker 4: you should score the entire film on the piano.

453
00:22:08,320 --> 00:22:10,400
Speaker 3: Half of is me just messing up and going fuck

454
00:22:11,280 --> 00:22:16,400
Speaker 3: trying over again, like get the c Sharp run.

455
00:22:17,480 --> 00:22:19,280
Speaker 4: I think the fans have got to start a campaign

456
00:22:19,359 --> 00:22:19,560
Speaker 4: for that.

457
00:22:19,680 --> 00:22:22,320
Speaker 3: You really should write Avengers like with me, I want

458
00:22:22,359 --> 00:22:26,160
Speaker 3: you to take the wheel, Like what carte blanche two

459
00:22:26,240 --> 00:22:29,320
Speaker 3: billion dollar franchise? What do you want your Avengers movie

460
00:22:29,359 --> 00:22:30,560
Speaker 3: to be about. How's it opened?

461
00:22:30,640 --> 00:22:34,840
Speaker 4: Well, I famously have said that I want a superhero movie,

462
00:22:35,400 --> 00:22:38,239
Speaker 4: whether it's The Avengers or Spider Man or the X Men.

463
00:22:38,280 --> 00:22:40,720
Speaker 4: It's just like a day they go to the mall. Yeah,

464
00:22:40,960 --> 00:22:44,240
Speaker 4: just like we see what each hero does, what store

465
00:22:44,320 --> 00:22:49,000
Speaker 4: they dive into? Uh, suggesting outfit ideas? Maybe you know,

466
00:22:49,119 --> 00:22:50,240
Speaker 4: fight in the food court.

467
00:22:50,520 --> 00:22:53,800
Speaker 3: What is Beast up to? What does Kelsey grammar Beast?

468
00:22:54,119 --> 00:22:56,680
Speaker 4: Well, he would be furious that b Dalton has shut down.

469
00:22:56,800 --> 00:22:59,920
Speaker 3: Of course he's the smart one. Yeah, yeah, exactly. I

470
00:23:00,119 --> 00:23:02,280
Speaker 3: know my case this is I'm pitching myself to write

471
00:23:02,280 --> 00:23:07,199
Speaker 3: the Avengers. I know, superheroes. That would probably be for

472
00:23:07,240 --> 00:23:10,640
Speaker 3: me such a pleasant movie to watch. Just watch these

473
00:23:10,720 --> 00:23:12,200
Speaker 3: characters interact with each other.

474
00:23:12,640 --> 00:23:18,000
Speaker 4: No thrills, no fear, no thrill, just simple simple plan

475
00:23:18,080 --> 00:23:20,600
Speaker 4: of going to the mall and being friends.

476
00:23:20,760 --> 00:23:26,680
Speaker 3: Yeah. Is that asking too much? Not an? I mean it,

477
00:23:25,920 --> 00:23:31,680
Speaker 3: it's terrifying, Bridget I don't know. I'm in the stage

478
00:23:31,720 --> 00:23:34,199
Speaker 3: now where like i don't know what to do. Like

479
00:23:34,280 --> 00:23:37,960
Speaker 3: I'm sitting there and I'm like, we've made about fifty

480
00:23:38,000 --> 00:23:41,240
Speaker 3: of these like what if. Yeah, I guess the world

481
00:23:41,280 --> 00:23:43,879
Speaker 3: could be in trouble. That could be I mean, what

482
00:23:44,040 --> 00:23:45,160
Speaker 3: characters are still a lot?

483
00:23:45,240 --> 00:23:47,040
Speaker 4: Well, you you probably can't even reveal.

484
00:23:47,480 --> 00:23:50,679
Speaker 3: I'll reveal everything, any truly, any spoiler you want right now.

485
00:23:50,720 --> 00:23:52,840
Speaker 3: I want to get eyeballs on this podcast.

486
00:23:52,920 --> 00:23:56,520
Speaker 4: Man, you want Eiger launching you into space?

487
00:23:56,600 --> 00:23:58,199
Speaker 3: Yep? Oh please? Yeah?

488
00:23:58,560 --> 00:24:01,320
Speaker 4: I mean I assume Spider Man is still alive.

489
00:24:01,800 --> 00:24:03,680
Speaker 3: He's around. Yeah, yeah, I think he's you know, he

490
00:24:03,920 --> 00:24:05,640
Speaker 3: he went through a big deal in his movie. He's

491
00:24:05,640 --> 00:24:07,840
Speaker 3: still around. I think everyone's on the table. I mean,

492
00:24:08,359 --> 00:24:11,520
Speaker 3: like Iron Man died, he's gone. I assume he costs

493
00:24:11,560 --> 00:24:15,240
Speaker 3: fifty million dollars to get so he's gone. Captain America

494
00:24:15,400 --> 00:24:17,720
Speaker 3: is like a hundred or something. He was, he was

495
00:24:17,760 --> 00:24:20,920
Speaker 3: a little old guy. I guess he's off the table. Okay,

496
00:24:21,080 --> 00:24:23,280
Speaker 3: I think everyone else is more or less around. No. No,

497
00:24:23,960 --> 00:24:26,120
Speaker 3: Scarlett Johanson is she's bowed out and.

498
00:24:26,160 --> 00:24:28,639
Speaker 4: She's bout out. Did she die or she.

499
00:24:28,240 --> 00:24:31,040
Speaker 3: She got thrown off? She threw her she jumped off

500
00:24:31,040 --> 00:24:31,439
Speaker 3: a cliff.

501
00:24:31,480 --> 00:24:33,280
Speaker 4: I jumped off a cliffs, so we don't know where

502
00:24:33,280 --> 00:24:34,360
Speaker 4: she could still be mid air?

503
00:24:34,480 --> 00:24:38,200
Speaker 3: Oh well, I think she hit pretty hard. I think

504
00:24:38,240 --> 00:24:42,760
Speaker 3: she's gone. Okay, the Purple Thanos Purple, I know what

505
00:24:42,760 --> 00:24:45,679
Speaker 3: his name is I'm acting. I'm acting. Here we go

506
00:24:45,800 --> 00:24:48,760
Speaker 3: cool guy, Yeah, cool guy, Jeff No, I think it's open.

507
00:24:48,800 --> 00:24:50,640
Speaker 3: You know, it's all open, and uh there's a lot

508
00:24:50,640 --> 00:24:52,960
Speaker 3: of different versions of the Jonathan Major's guy, so you

509
00:24:53,040 --> 00:24:54,679
Speaker 3: got to figure out where to go with him. But

510
00:24:54,800 --> 00:24:56,199
Speaker 3: uh so, honestly jump in.

511
00:24:56,440 --> 00:25:00,720
Speaker 4: Because Chance Captain America like fixes a sprinkler system or

512
00:25:00,800 --> 00:25:01,520
Speaker 4: we see.

513
00:25:02,840 --> 00:25:06,879
Speaker 3: Spider Man thrifting. Honestly, yeah, I would love that for

514
00:25:06,960 --> 00:25:09,240
Speaker 3: Spider Man. That's kind of his thing, like he's gotten

515
00:25:09,280 --> 00:25:11,320
Speaker 3: too high tech with these new ones. Yeah, I write

516
00:25:11,400 --> 00:25:11,720
Speaker 3: him down.

517
00:25:11,760 --> 00:25:15,000
Speaker 4: He goes to uh Goodwill and it's just looking for

518
00:25:15,040 --> 00:25:15,720
Speaker 4: something fun.

519
00:25:17,160 --> 00:25:19,080
Speaker 3: I would love to get you in one of these

520
00:25:19,119 --> 00:25:21,440
Speaker 3: like we had, Like it's it's doable, Like I want

521
00:25:21,480 --> 00:25:23,000
Speaker 3: to get you as like a guy who's like really

522
00:25:23,080 --> 00:25:25,359
Speaker 3: annoyed Spider Man in line.

523
00:25:25,200 --> 00:25:29,280
Speaker 4: I absolutely want to be just obliterated by a super villain.

524
00:25:29,520 --> 00:25:31,639
Speaker 3: Oh that did I tell you? Like I guess I

525
00:25:31,640 --> 00:25:34,439
Speaker 3: can say this like I was in ant Man getting

526
00:25:34,560 --> 00:25:37,840
Speaker 3: killed by Moda and I got cut from the movie

527
00:25:38,240 --> 00:25:41,000
Speaker 3: because it was like it just didn't fit in the

528
00:25:41,040 --> 00:25:41,880
Speaker 3: flow what we had.

529
00:25:42,000 --> 00:25:44,000
Speaker 4: Can you say, like what sort of character you were?

530
00:25:44,480 --> 00:25:46,880
Speaker 3: I was like, I think I can much to say,

531
00:25:46,920 --> 00:25:49,960
Speaker 3: Like I'll be vague, I guess like Modoc is a big,

532
00:25:50,240 --> 00:25:52,040
Speaker 3: big head, he's a floating guy. He's kind of a

533
00:25:52,119 --> 00:25:54,400
Speaker 3: he's an old villain, but he's very dumb and very

534
00:25:54,400 --> 00:25:56,560
Speaker 3: goofy looking, And so I wrote him as like this

535
00:25:56,640 --> 00:25:59,840
Speaker 3: sort of Kevin Klein in a fish called Wanda, or

536
00:25:59,880 --> 00:26:05,119
Speaker 3: like remember that Simpsons episode Homer's Enemy with Frank Grimes,

537
00:26:05,160 --> 00:26:07,960
Speaker 3: just like this guy who cannot win and is trying

538
00:26:08,000 --> 00:26:10,880
Speaker 3: his best, but just like, dude, you're a big floating head,

539
00:26:10,920 --> 00:26:13,080
Speaker 3: it's not gonna work out for you. So basically I

540
00:26:13,080 --> 00:26:15,639
Speaker 3: play like a stormtrooper, like a little henchman who like

541
00:26:16,000 --> 00:26:18,399
Speaker 3: clearly hates working for this guy. And like it's just

542
00:26:18,440 --> 00:26:21,280
Speaker 3: one of those scenes. Was it like take her away,

543
00:26:21,440 --> 00:26:24,840
Speaker 3: like that's what I'm doing, Like I don't work for you.

544
00:26:24,960 --> 00:26:27,760
Speaker 3: Like I was taking her down the hallway like just

545
00:26:27,800 --> 00:26:29,639
Speaker 3: like talking back and then he blows me up with

546
00:26:29,680 --> 00:26:32,679
Speaker 3: his uh horn. My god, the dream, it was a

547
00:26:32,920 --> 00:26:34,520
Speaker 3: it was a it was the best day I had

548
00:26:34,640 --> 00:26:38,840
Speaker 3: hunt set. I died like twenty times, screamed, I squealed,

549
00:26:39,400 --> 00:26:43,920
Speaker 3: and eventually, you know, filmmaking is sacrifice. Didn't didn't work?

550
00:26:44,000 --> 00:26:46,119
Speaker 4: Did they have wires attached to you get pulled up

551
00:26:46,160 --> 00:26:47,520
Speaker 4: into the air and it was.

552
00:26:47,640 --> 00:26:50,639
Speaker 3: Very low fi. I did ah, and then I walked

553
00:26:50,640 --> 00:26:53,320
Speaker 3: away to the side and hunkered down in a corner.

554
00:26:53,600 --> 00:26:56,840
Speaker 3: You can see me in the corner. And Modoc is

555
00:26:56,840 --> 00:27:00,920
Speaker 3: a big like plastic mold, like a gray He mouled

556
00:27:01,200 --> 00:27:03,840
Speaker 3: that a guy was hired. His name is Mark. He

557
00:27:04,000 --> 00:27:08,000
Speaker 3: was like the Modot operator. He would just carry this

558
00:27:08,160 --> 00:27:10,840
Speaker 3: gigantic head around that was probably forty pounds.

559
00:27:11,720 --> 00:27:15,040
Speaker 4: He's kind of the guy who played Darth Vader. Basically, yes,

560
00:27:15,080 --> 00:27:17,840
Speaker 4: who played Darth the Prowse David prows or something. I

561
00:27:17,880 --> 00:27:19,840
Speaker 4: think his name is big British guy. And does he

562
00:27:19,920 --> 00:27:21,639
Speaker 4: ever act in anything else?

563
00:27:21,800 --> 00:27:24,440
Speaker 3: He tried? Did you ever see the footage of Vader

564
00:27:24,480 --> 00:27:27,320
Speaker 3: before James Earl Jones? No, it's just a big British

565
00:27:27,359 --> 00:27:32,439
Speaker 3: guy does not work. Even Vader's like acting in those movies,

566
00:27:32,440 --> 00:27:34,320
Speaker 3: like his hand acting. He's always like you could tell

567
00:27:34,320 --> 00:27:36,760
Speaker 3: it's not a great actor doing a little He's always

568
00:27:36,760 --> 00:27:40,960
Speaker 3: like pointing at people and like clunkily moving around.

569
00:27:41,920 --> 00:27:46,480
Speaker 4: Oh boy, well, I mean speaking of villains and not

570
00:27:46,640 --> 00:27:48,080
Speaker 4: following the rules, this.

571
00:27:47,960 --> 00:27:48,520
Speaker 3: Sort of thing.

572
00:27:48,960 --> 00:27:51,919
Speaker 4: You were on this podcast, Like I said, I was

573
00:27:52,240 --> 00:27:56,520
Speaker 4: maybe ten months ago. You're a close friend. You're aware

574
00:27:56,560 --> 00:28:00,000
Speaker 4: of what happens on this podcast. Last year, you brought

575
00:28:00,080 --> 00:28:04,560
Speaker 4: a gift, you brought some Caprice son, you brought Da

576
00:28:04,640 --> 00:28:06,320
Speaker 4: Vinci code on CD.

577
00:28:06,840 --> 00:28:08,040
Speaker 3: Did you finds? How was it?

578
00:28:08,040 --> 00:28:10,720
Speaker 4: It was excellent? It was excellent.

579
00:28:10,760 --> 00:28:11,920
Speaker 3: How was the performance?

580
00:28:11,960 --> 00:28:12,000
Speaker 2: Like?

581
00:28:12,040 --> 00:28:14,240
Speaker 3: Did he do lots of voices? Did he jump around?

582
00:28:14,840 --> 00:28:18,560
Speaker 4: I would say, too many voices? It became confusing, But

583
00:28:18,680 --> 00:28:21,159
Speaker 4: the message was always clear. Something's going on with the

584
00:28:21,160 --> 00:28:23,320
Speaker 4: Catholic Church. It goes all the way to the top.

585
00:28:23,440 --> 00:28:29,040
Speaker 4: Something's not right here. But you know I I worked

586
00:28:29,040 --> 00:28:31,879
Speaker 4: through whatever that was with you. Right, I thought we

587
00:28:31,880 --> 00:28:35,400
Speaker 4: were on good terms. I invited you back to the podcast,

588
00:28:35,440 --> 00:28:39,160
Speaker 4: thinking maybe maybe this is the time. Right, he's repented,

589
00:28:39,800 --> 00:28:42,400
Speaker 4: he's he's corrected his behavior.

590
00:28:42,480 --> 00:28:46,320
Speaker 3: Look, Bridgert, let's be honest. I felt like shit. We

591
00:28:46,360 --> 00:28:48,760
Speaker 3: didn't speak for a year. There was after the taping.

592
00:28:48,840 --> 00:28:51,600
Speaker 3: You were furious. You yoed at me, Yoda analyst. I've

593
00:28:51,640 --> 00:28:55,400
Speaker 3: never seen rage come out that way. You were crying,

594
00:28:55,440 --> 00:28:57,360
Speaker 3: I mean like you just lost control.

595
00:28:57,640 --> 00:28:59,600
Speaker 4: Well it was a it was a moment for me.

596
00:29:00,160 --> 00:29:02,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, and I and I kind of internalized that.

597
00:29:02,200 --> 00:29:05,000
Speaker 3: I did a lot of work, you know, I kind

598
00:29:05,000 --> 00:29:07,320
Speaker 3: of fucking blamed myself for a lot of it. I

599
00:29:07,360 --> 00:29:10,960
Speaker 3: didn't know work. Yeah, and uh, honestly, I felt horrible

600
00:29:11,040 --> 00:29:13,600
Speaker 3: and I thought, well, I really ruined Bridger's show. I

601
00:29:13,640 --> 00:29:15,800
Speaker 3: really heard him. Then I thought, how do you make

602
00:29:15,880 --> 00:29:19,440
Speaker 3: up for hurting someone? What do you do? Right? You

603
00:29:19,480 --> 00:29:23,040
Speaker 3: get him a gift? Oh? Interesting? But on the drive

604
00:29:23,080 --> 00:29:29,120
Speaker 3: over here, I realized, Jeff, you've done it again. You

605
00:29:29,240 --> 00:29:32,680
Speaker 3: got this guy a gift. And so this is me

606
00:29:33,080 --> 00:29:35,760
Speaker 3: falling on my ass basically because this is this is

607
00:29:35,760 --> 00:29:38,360
Speaker 3: a piece offering of anything. But now I can see

608
00:29:38,360 --> 00:29:40,120
Speaker 3: just the veins coming back in your head.

609
00:29:40,400 --> 00:29:43,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, well, I mean the podcast is clearly called. I

610
00:29:43,080 --> 00:29:45,640
Speaker 4: said no gifts. We had the the you know, the

611
00:29:45,680 --> 00:29:49,280
Speaker 4: blow up last year, there was the no talking this settlement,

612
00:29:49,960 --> 00:29:53,680
Speaker 4: several settlements h and I continue to threaten more suits.

613
00:29:54,240 --> 00:29:57,000
Speaker 4: My team of lawyers is always, you know, brainstorming, cooking

614
00:29:57,080 --> 00:29:57,800
Speaker 4: up new ideas.

615
00:29:57,840 --> 00:30:01,520
Speaker 3: You have story credit on Quantumania. Now basically you come

616
00:30:01,600 --> 00:30:06,360
Speaker 3: up right alongside my name's I don't think it hurts,

617
00:30:06,480 --> 00:30:08,520
Speaker 3: It does hurt. It was a lot of work on them.

618
00:30:08,960 --> 00:30:14,400
Speaker 4: I also got wardrobe by but you know, the pain

619
00:30:14,520 --> 00:30:17,400
Speaker 4: doesn't end. And now the wound has been ripped open.

620
00:30:18,160 --> 00:30:21,720
Speaker 4: You're gonna tank the ratings again of the podcast, I mean,

621
00:30:21,880 --> 00:30:24,760
Speaker 4: may be canceled after this episode. You can you know,

622
00:30:24,800 --> 00:30:28,360
Speaker 4: it's a death by a thousand cuts. You have this

623
00:30:28,400 --> 00:30:31,360
Speaker 4: gift here for me. You showed up just you're you

624
00:30:31,440 --> 00:30:36,600
Speaker 4: were drenched in sweating, breathing, so heavily obviously panicked. But

625
00:30:36,960 --> 00:30:38,760
Speaker 4: should I open this gift here on the podcast?

626
00:30:39,720 --> 00:30:41,640
Speaker 3: I think we owe it to the listener. Yeah, I think,

627
00:30:41,800 --> 00:30:42,560
Speaker 3: you know, to ourselves.

628
00:30:42,640 --> 00:30:46,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, just to be you know, honest and true to

629
00:30:46,760 --> 00:30:47,680
Speaker 4: what's happening here.

630
00:30:47,720 --> 00:30:48,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think so.

631
00:31:04,440 --> 00:31:06,760
Speaker 4: Okay, Well, it's in a brown box. You're always bringing

632
00:31:06,800 --> 00:31:09,120
Speaker 4: me a gift in a shoe box. How many shoes

633
00:31:09,160 --> 00:31:09,720
Speaker 4: do you own?

634
00:31:09,920 --> 00:31:15,600
Speaker 3: Not enough? I wear maybe two. And I'll sometimes think, like,

635
00:31:15,640 --> 00:31:17,360
Speaker 3: you know, Jeff, shake it up, get like I get

636
00:31:17,360 --> 00:31:20,400
Speaker 3: this and I never wear it, and I've I don't

637
00:31:20,400 --> 00:31:22,600
Speaker 3: think it's bad, it's I gave it away.

638
00:31:22,720 --> 00:31:24,720
Speaker 4: Okay, Well, it's in a shoebox. I'm going to open

639
00:31:24,720 --> 00:31:28,000
Speaker 4: it here. It's a brown shoebox. This time we're opening

640
00:31:30,360 --> 00:31:35,880
Speaker 4: and I'm finding a what has clearly been opened a

641
00:31:35,920 --> 00:31:40,400
Speaker 4: box of beor charcoal deep cleansing porestrips Is this a

642
00:31:40,440 --> 00:31:41,720
Speaker 4: comment on my pores?

643
00:31:41,920 --> 00:31:44,680
Speaker 3: Is this what's happening here? Well, first of all, let

644
00:31:44,760 --> 00:31:47,120
Speaker 3: me some value size. Also, you're lucky there was anything

645
00:31:47,160 --> 00:31:49,960
Speaker 3: in the goddamn box. Do you know what I thought

646
00:31:50,040 --> 00:31:53,680
Speaker 3: of coming here, doing a little bit on your show,

647
00:31:54,520 --> 00:31:58,040
Speaker 3: embarrassing you, handing you over the box and having you

648
00:31:58,160 --> 00:32:02,000
Speaker 3: open it to show nothing. I had it all planned out, Bridger,

649
00:32:02,480 --> 00:32:05,600
Speaker 3: I had it all planned out, ratings through the fucking roof,

650
00:32:06,600 --> 00:32:07,920
Speaker 3: and then I thought, you know, I had to look

651
00:32:07,960 --> 00:32:10,960
Speaker 3: at myself. He's a friend. Don't tank him like that,

652
00:32:11,240 --> 00:32:13,920
Speaker 3: don't go for the jugular. What's something he could use?

653
00:32:13,920 --> 00:32:15,880
Speaker 3: So this is a gift, it's also a cry for help.

654
00:32:16,240 --> 00:32:17,080
Speaker 3: Look at your nose.

655
00:32:17,120 --> 00:32:19,320
Speaker 4: Look at the blackheads they are coming out.

656
00:32:19,440 --> 00:32:22,640
Speaker 3: They're just unleashed. Was it on my bathroom sync? On

657
00:32:22,680 --> 00:32:25,720
Speaker 3: the way I was driving here? Perhaps? Did I need

658
00:32:25,800 --> 00:32:28,640
Speaker 3: one or two myself?

659
00:32:28,640 --> 00:32:31,720
Speaker 4: You ripped one off in the rear view mirror. You

660
00:32:31,800 --> 00:32:33,640
Speaker 4: knew there was gonna be a photo for the podcast.

661
00:32:33,680 --> 00:32:34,960
Speaker 4: You had to get rid of your pores.

662
00:32:35,160 --> 00:32:38,480
Speaker 3: Red carpet ready? You want to have poors next to

663
00:32:38,480 --> 00:32:40,280
Speaker 3: Michelle Phifer on the red carpet? My man?

664
00:32:40,520 --> 00:32:44,400
Speaker 4: No, I mean speaking of a red carpet. I haven't

665
00:32:44,440 --> 00:32:48,080
Speaker 4: gotten at the invitation. You're keeping me from Michelle. You're

666
00:32:48,120 --> 00:32:50,920
Speaker 4: keeping me let's just say it. Mario Lopez is gonna

667
00:32:50,920 --> 00:32:53,080
Speaker 4: be there. What Why are you trying to stop me

668
00:32:53,120 --> 00:32:53,920
Speaker 4: from meeting Mario?

669
00:32:55,000 --> 00:32:56,800
Speaker 3: Man, that's actually a good quest. Man. I would love

670
00:32:56,840 --> 00:32:58,000
Speaker 3: to meet Mario Lopez.

671
00:32:58,720 --> 00:33:01,400
Speaker 4: I saw Mario Lopez several times at the Grove because

672
00:33:01,400 --> 00:33:02,760
Speaker 4: he used to broadcast live.

673
00:33:02,640 --> 00:33:05,200
Speaker 3: From right Why why don't they? I mean, they should

674
00:33:05,200 --> 00:33:08,560
Speaker 3: be there. He's not allowed to leave the ground, you man,

675
00:33:08,640 --> 00:33:10,440
Speaker 3: wouldn't that be the Do we ever talk about this?

676
00:33:10,560 --> 00:33:14,440
Speaker 3: Like the perfect writing job would be like writing prompter

677
00:33:14,640 --> 00:33:17,560
Speaker 3: copy for entertainment tonight in like two thousand and four.

678
00:33:18,320 --> 00:33:20,920
Speaker 4: Nothing we've spoken about this. I can't to put to

679
00:33:21,000 --> 00:33:23,560
Speaker 4: put words in Mary Heart's mouth. Yeah yeah, I mean,

680
00:33:23,680 --> 00:33:25,400
Speaker 4: I mean she was gone in two thousand.

681
00:33:25,520 --> 00:33:30,880
Speaker 3: Was Superman and now the horse that killed Christopher Reeve.

682
00:33:31,080 --> 00:33:35,200
Speaker 3: It's at it again, just to do like all the

683
00:33:35,360 --> 00:33:37,080
Speaker 3: set visits and like all.

684
00:33:37,760 --> 00:33:41,719
Speaker 4: Oh, it's a I grew up on entertainment tonight.

685
00:33:42,040 --> 00:33:45,720
Speaker 3: They actually this is not even like I legitimately like

686
00:33:45,920 --> 00:33:48,440
Speaker 3: they did a little like et behind the scenes for

687
00:33:48,520 --> 00:33:50,560
Speaker 3: Quantu mat like for a man you're kidding. And I

688
00:33:50,720 --> 00:33:52,760
Speaker 3: was like it did get me like a rush of like,

689
00:33:52,840 --> 00:33:57,200
Speaker 3: oh my god, like I made a movie like it's

690
00:33:57,200 --> 00:34:00,000
Speaker 3: got the little et logo and they just show the trailer.

691
00:34:00,000 --> 00:34:03,120
Speaker 3: They're basically but it's like with someone talking over. It'd

692
00:34:03,120 --> 00:34:05,520
Speaker 3: have to send that to me. An it really was

693
00:34:05,600 --> 00:34:09,480
Speaker 3: like that, and like back at like back home, like

694
00:34:09,560 --> 00:34:12,480
Speaker 3: movies ten it's like this might be on like the

695
00:34:12,560 --> 00:34:15,880
Speaker 3: cups of soda, like they might have Oh my god,

696
00:34:15,960 --> 00:34:19,319
Speaker 3: like a movie on a cup of soda, Like I

697
00:34:19,440 --> 00:34:20,960
Speaker 3: that is, I've reached the peak.

698
00:34:21,160 --> 00:34:23,319
Speaker 4: Do you know what I noticed in one of those

699
00:34:23,400 --> 00:34:26,640
Speaker 4: pre movie things recently, you know where they show customers

700
00:34:26,719 --> 00:34:29,120
Speaker 4: or whatever. Of course, someone was drinking out of a

701
00:34:29,280 --> 00:34:32,279
Speaker 4: sprite cup. I've never seen that in the wild. It

702
00:34:32,320 --> 00:34:35,520
Speaker 4: was a green No, it was a green cup branded sprite.

703
00:34:35,520 --> 00:34:37,279
Speaker 3: They're trying to make it. Yeah yeah, no, no, no, no,

704
00:34:37,160 --> 00:34:39,200
Speaker 3: no no no. It was just like the movie add

705
00:34:39,239 --> 00:34:41,480
Speaker 3: before when like, yeah, couples are eating popcorn and the

706
00:34:41,480 --> 00:34:43,719
Speaker 3: guy like throws his soda in the air.

707
00:34:43,920 --> 00:34:46,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, And I couldn't. I was distracted through the entire

708
00:34:46,880 --> 00:34:48,479
Speaker 4: movie thinking about that sprite cup.

709
00:34:48,560 --> 00:34:51,560
Speaker 3: It is weird. I don't know. I would love to

710
00:34:51,560 --> 00:34:53,520
Speaker 3: see one in the wild. I do like a movie

711
00:34:53,600 --> 00:34:56,719
Speaker 3: theater sprite. There is like a nice cleansing value to it. Yeah,

712
00:34:56,880 --> 00:34:59,640
Speaker 3: I have never seen it. They have not earned the right.

713
00:34:59,719 --> 00:35:00,239
Speaker 3: That's a coke.

714
00:35:00,560 --> 00:35:03,479
Speaker 4: No, that's it's always a coke, Always a coke.

715
00:35:03,960 --> 00:35:04,280
Speaker 3: Okay.

716
00:35:04,280 --> 00:35:07,080
Speaker 4: So I've got these charcoal deep cleansing poor strips.

717
00:35:07,120 --> 00:35:07,839
Speaker 3: I haven't used one.

718
00:35:07,880 --> 00:35:11,040
Speaker 4: I love these, Actually, I haven't used them in over

719
00:35:11,120 --> 00:35:13,719
Speaker 4: a decade. You know, my skin is flawless. I'm kind

720
00:35:13,760 --> 00:35:16,719
Speaker 4: of famous. I'm glowing. People are trying to find out

721
00:35:16,760 --> 00:35:19,759
Speaker 4: how I do it, but I'm always It's almost like

722
00:35:19,800 --> 00:35:21,600
Speaker 4: a little craft you get to do it.

723
00:35:21,680 --> 00:35:24,600
Speaker 3: Is I like, now that I'm getting older, like I

724
00:35:24,640 --> 00:35:26,640
Speaker 3: like a strip. I like a thing you can put

725
00:35:26,640 --> 00:35:30,120
Speaker 3: on yourself and rip away. It does feel like the

726
00:35:30,239 --> 00:35:34,920
Speaker 3: right amount of sadism and like disgusting, little kid like

727
00:35:35,000 --> 00:35:38,000
Speaker 3: you just slowly take it off and then you break

728
00:35:38,040 --> 00:35:40,359
Speaker 3: the strip. You can't even get them no strip off.

729
00:35:41,960 --> 00:35:43,160
Speaker 4: It becomes kind of a plaster.

730
00:35:43,320 --> 00:35:43,440
Speaker 2: Yeh.

731
00:35:43,480 --> 00:35:47,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, so you've you've been molded.

732
00:35:48,239 --> 00:35:50,440
Speaker 4: I mean this one, these ones I'm a little worried

733
00:35:50,440 --> 00:35:52,279
Speaker 4: about because you know, the usual ones are kind of

734
00:35:52,280 --> 00:35:54,879
Speaker 4: a band aid beige and when you pull it off

735
00:35:54,880 --> 00:35:56,440
Speaker 4: you see the black heads, which I think is a

736
00:35:56,480 --> 00:35:57,200
Speaker 4: little reward.

737
00:35:57,280 --> 00:35:59,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, of course, it's like, oh, you're so disgusted this

738
00:36:00,640 --> 00:36:03,040
Speaker 3: dark light or something. It's like all black, but you

739
00:36:03,040 --> 00:36:05,680
Speaker 3: can still see the poor. You can say, I would

740
00:36:05,719 --> 00:36:08,040
Speaker 3: even say they're like stars and the night or oh

741
00:36:08,080 --> 00:36:11,160
Speaker 3: it's interesting black strip and these little wet white specs.

742
00:36:11,280 --> 00:36:13,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, And I guess it's not we should be, you know,

743
00:36:13,160 --> 00:36:15,640
Speaker 4: because this is a science based podcast.

744
00:36:15,640 --> 00:36:16,360
Speaker 3: It's not the poor.

745
00:36:16,400 --> 00:36:18,520
Speaker 4: It's whatever the hell is going on inside the poor,

746
00:36:18,560 --> 00:36:22,560
Speaker 4: the dirt, the grime, the build up of the human body.

747
00:36:22,640 --> 00:36:26,120
Speaker 3: This is one of those atrocious science blog. I fucking

748
00:36:26,200 --> 00:36:29,600
Speaker 3: love science. Those guys they make you want to cut

749
00:36:29,640 --> 00:36:34,880
Speaker 3: funding for science, all those little BBC nerds doing little jokes.

750
00:36:36,480 --> 00:36:38,879
Speaker 4: Yes, this is a science blog. And I guess it's

751
00:36:38,880 --> 00:36:41,000
Speaker 4: a blackhead. I'm just getting to it. It's a blackhad.

752
00:36:41,080 --> 00:36:41,960
Speaker 4: Is that what we call them?

753
00:36:42,160 --> 00:36:42,640
Speaker 3: I think so?

754
00:36:43,080 --> 00:36:47,400
Speaker 4: Uh, And I love to do it and I'm excited

755
00:36:47,440 --> 00:36:50,000
Speaker 4: to try it for the first time, maybe as an adult.

756
00:36:50,040 --> 00:36:51,560
Speaker 4: I think the last time was probably as a teen.

757
00:36:51,920 --> 00:36:53,719
Speaker 4: We got like a deep cleanse coming up. Then I've

758
00:36:53,719 --> 00:36:55,800
Speaker 4: got an extremely deep cleanse, and I wonder what the

759
00:36:55,920 --> 00:36:57,680
Speaker 4: charcoal does do we believe in charcoal?

760
00:36:58,040 --> 00:37:01,960
Speaker 3: I don't I think. I mean, I remember charcoal being

761
00:37:02,239 --> 00:37:05,799
Speaker 3: bad and you like bite into it. I don't like

762
00:37:06,280 --> 00:37:08,200
Speaker 3: I think bit into it. I don't know. They have

763
00:37:08,320 --> 00:37:10,600
Speaker 3: like a a barbecue or you would like have it,

764
00:37:10,719 --> 00:37:12,880
Speaker 3: or you would smell it like And now suddenly charcoal

765
00:37:12,960 --> 00:37:14,520
Speaker 3: is like a luxury item.

766
00:37:14,320 --> 00:37:15,400
Speaker 4: No longer a briquette.

767
00:37:15,480 --> 00:37:18,200
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, I feel leave charcoal in the past, but

768
00:37:18,960 --> 00:37:19,680
Speaker 3: it didn't stop me.

769
00:37:19,800 --> 00:37:22,600
Speaker 4: But they've got it in toothpaste. Now they've got it

770
00:37:22,640 --> 00:37:23,120
Speaker 4: for face.

771
00:37:23,480 --> 00:37:25,719
Speaker 3: Are we sure that's healthy? Right?

772
00:37:25,840 --> 00:37:28,000
Speaker 4: It feels to me like something that should be left

773
00:37:28,040 --> 00:37:29,200
Speaker 4: in a mine or something.

774
00:37:29,480 --> 00:37:33,800
Speaker 3: Isn't it? Yes? What it? Actually? What is it? Compressed? Ash?

775
00:37:33,840 --> 00:37:38,480
Speaker 3: You're the science blogger. Well, let's just for this little

776
00:37:38,560 --> 00:37:43,560
Speaker 3: uh a little British doctor who quips for the science blog.

777
00:37:43,880 --> 00:37:45,480
Speaker 3: I'm here to learn about fusion.

778
00:37:46,640 --> 00:37:49,000
Speaker 4: I've been listening to another podcast called Rumble Strip.

779
00:37:49,040 --> 00:37:49,719
Speaker 3: Have you heard of this?

780
00:37:49,760 --> 00:37:49,880
Speaker 2: Oh?

781
00:37:49,920 --> 00:37:50,399
Speaker 3: What is that?

782
00:37:50,520 --> 00:37:54,239
Speaker 4: It's this woman in Vermont just as interviewing people around town.

783
00:37:54,800 --> 00:37:58,000
Speaker 3: That's it. Oh that's fun, fantastic, like old like public

784
00:37:58,040 --> 00:37:59,400
Speaker 3: access radio kind of stuff.

785
00:37:59,520 --> 00:38:02,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, she's just talking to you know, an old farmer

786
00:38:02,280 --> 00:38:06,680
Speaker 4: or whatever, and kind of about whatever. They're twenty thirty

787
00:38:06,760 --> 00:38:09,239
Speaker 4: minutes long. It's so terrific. I can't recommend it enough.

788
00:38:09,360 --> 00:38:12,719
Speaker 3: There was this old show called like Strangers or something

789
00:38:12,760 --> 00:38:15,920
Speaker 3: on NPR. Again I'm not going very far off the

790
00:38:15,920 --> 00:38:18,560
Speaker 3: bush like NPR, but like it was a similar thing

791
00:38:18,600 --> 00:38:21,200
Speaker 3: where like she would just ask you to send something

792
00:38:21,239 --> 00:38:24,040
Speaker 3: in tell the story of your life, oh like fifteen minutes.

793
00:38:24,680 --> 00:38:26,839
Speaker 3: And I was like, this is great. It's like it's

794
00:38:26,920 --> 00:38:29,520
Speaker 3: open access, you know, send in stuff. But like every

795
00:38:29,560 --> 00:38:32,280
Speaker 3: once in a while you'd get just a great little story. Wow,

796
00:38:32,320 --> 00:38:33,719
Speaker 3: and then she'd talk to them at the end of

797
00:38:33,760 --> 00:38:36,600
Speaker 3: it and like, yeah, just you know, everyone has a story, man,

798
00:38:36,680 --> 00:38:39,000
Speaker 3: everybody's got to say. It is kind of the theme

799
00:38:39,000 --> 00:38:41,760
Speaker 3: of Man in the Wass quantal Mania. Everyone has a story.

800
00:38:43,160 --> 00:38:47,160
Speaker 4: It's a very very slow movie. People are walking out.

801
00:38:47,600 --> 00:38:50,439
Speaker 4: Let's just say, people, you've got to have a lot

802
00:38:50,480 --> 00:38:55,160
Speaker 4: of patience for this movie. No, that's not I mean,

803
00:38:55,200 --> 00:38:57,360
Speaker 4: I haven't. Let's I mean, I've been saying over and

804
00:38:57,360 --> 00:38:59,359
Speaker 4: over that I've seen the movie. I simply haven't.

805
00:38:59,400 --> 00:39:02,680
Speaker 3: It's a thrill, right, it's a real ride. I actually

806
00:39:02,760 --> 00:39:05,200
Speaker 3: am without like I'm getting kind of excited now, Like

807
00:39:05,239 --> 00:39:07,360
Speaker 3: I you know, you know, if you like superhero movies

808
00:39:07,440 --> 00:39:09,040
Speaker 3: or whatnot, and it's up to you if you like

809
00:39:09,120 --> 00:39:11,759
Speaker 3: those or not. But I don't know, man, I think

810
00:39:11,760 --> 00:39:14,799
Speaker 3: it's kind of fun. I think delight and like as

811
00:39:14,960 --> 00:39:17,319
Speaker 3: as a comedy writer or whatever, like I got so

812
00:39:17,520 --> 00:39:20,040
Speaker 3: tired of like there just weren't a lot of big

813
00:39:20,160 --> 00:39:23,560
Speaker 3: comedy movies out or like or they're all too quippy,

814
00:39:23,719 --> 00:39:26,080
Speaker 3: or like TV comedies. Obviously they're great, but like a

815
00:39:26,120 --> 00:39:29,040
Speaker 3: lot of them just feel like writers writing to other writers,

816
00:39:29,120 --> 00:39:33,320
Speaker 3: you know, like writers writing for Twitter. And I wanted

817
00:39:33,480 --> 00:39:35,320
Speaker 3: I just had the thought of, like I'm writing like

818
00:39:35,360 --> 00:39:38,560
Speaker 3: a big movie that like people don't really know what

819
00:39:38,560 --> 00:39:42,080
Speaker 3: it's gonna be, and like can I write secretly like

820
00:39:42,360 --> 00:39:45,080
Speaker 3: dumb and Dumber or like that style of joke where

821
00:39:45,080 --> 00:39:48,800
Speaker 3: it's like it's not trying to be ironic or taking

822
00:39:48,840 --> 00:39:50,520
Speaker 3: like a little quip or it's not trying to be

823
00:39:50,560 --> 00:39:52,680
Speaker 3: a little like something that you want to screenshot as

824
00:39:52,680 --> 00:39:55,360
Speaker 3: a meme, Like what just like a dumb, funny joke

825
00:39:55,440 --> 00:39:58,000
Speaker 3: that like I would love if I was ten, or

826
00:39:58,040 --> 00:40:00,000
Speaker 3: like I would still think was funny if I was old,

827
00:40:00,239 --> 00:40:04,360
Speaker 3: but like like like Princess Bride or like dumb and

828
00:40:04,440 --> 00:40:06,840
Speaker 3: Dummer or like Steve Martin movies, like they just have

829
00:40:07,040 --> 00:40:10,040
Speaker 3: like gags and I kind of miss just gags.

830
00:40:10,239 --> 00:40:12,160
Speaker 4: I love a gag and I'm like, we don't have

831
00:40:12,200 --> 00:40:12,719
Speaker 4: gags on it.

832
00:40:12,920 --> 00:40:15,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, and like you know, I think it turned out

833
00:40:15,440 --> 00:40:18,080
Speaker 3: pretty well. Again, you never know, but like I'm kind

834
00:40:18,120 --> 00:40:20,760
Speaker 3: of proud of like it's so it's got weird gags.

835
00:40:20,840 --> 00:40:24,440
Speaker 4: Oh, I'm so excited hoofy characters. And you met Michelle Pfeiffer.

836
00:40:24,480 --> 00:40:27,279
Speaker 4: I did, Yes, yes, lovely. It's actually great, Like she

837
00:40:27,640 --> 00:40:30,080
Speaker 4: actually is quite funny. I think, like, oh, you're kidding,

838
00:40:30,719 --> 00:40:32,960
Speaker 4: Like you have to get her rhythm because you know,

839
00:40:33,000 --> 00:40:35,120
Speaker 4: you don't expect her to be this like comedic actress.

840
00:40:35,640 --> 00:40:38,719
Speaker 4: But once you found that, to me, it's like she's

841
00:40:38,760 --> 00:40:40,759
Speaker 4: like such a high status, Like you don't want to

842
00:40:40,760 --> 00:40:43,080
Speaker 4: embarrass yourself in front of Michelle Pfiffer, but then you

843
00:40:43,080 --> 00:40:45,719
Speaker 4: can use that. It's like, oh, if Michelle Pfeiffer cut

844
00:40:45,800 --> 00:40:48,680
Speaker 4: you down, it would be the most devastating that you've.

845
00:40:48,520 --> 00:40:50,960
Speaker 3: Ever heard razor tongue. Yeah, just like, oh, you're not

846
00:40:51,000 --> 00:40:53,280
Speaker 3: a man, you're a little boy. Get out of here.

847
00:40:53,440 --> 00:40:56,200
Speaker 3: Like she so like she does have a few like

848
00:40:56,400 --> 00:40:58,840
Speaker 3: quick hits in the movie that always got laughs in

849
00:40:58,880 --> 00:41:01,319
Speaker 3: the test screening, and I was like, oh, Michelle Fiber

850
00:41:01,400 --> 00:41:01,960
Speaker 3: is pretty good.

851
00:41:02,080 --> 00:41:04,319
Speaker 4: We've got to user and more comedy. Yeah, let's have

852
00:41:04,360 --> 00:41:05,800
Speaker 4: a Fifer revival.

853
00:41:05,920 --> 00:41:08,480
Speaker 3: I really there's no time, but like I really wanted

854
00:41:08,520 --> 00:41:11,600
Speaker 3: to recut the trailer to be like a nineteen ninety

855
00:41:11,600 --> 00:41:14,879
Speaker 3: three erotic thriller. I was like, you realize, like, wait,

856
00:41:14,920 --> 00:41:18,920
Speaker 3: the movie does have Michael Douglas and Michelle Peifer in it, like,

857
00:41:19,560 --> 00:41:21,360
Speaker 3: and they're married to each other in the movie. So

858
00:41:21,440 --> 00:41:24,040
Speaker 3: I just wanted to add of context take like a

859
00:41:24,120 --> 00:41:27,520
Speaker 3: wife's betrayal, like dann it, what are you doing? Like

860
00:41:27,640 --> 00:41:31,759
Speaker 3: just that hoardy Michael Douglas, Like the movie was foggy,

861
00:41:32,200 --> 00:41:35,120
Speaker 3: like everything was steamed in the movie, Like I love

862
00:41:35,160 --> 00:41:37,600
Speaker 3: a ninety four VHS erotic thriller.

863
00:41:37,320 --> 00:41:40,800
Speaker 4: That really was kind of the golden age of erotic thrillers.

864
00:41:40,840 --> 00:41:43,839
Speaker 3: Just incredible. Ever, and like people went to see him,

865
00:41:44,000 --> 00:41:46,920
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, they made two hundred million dollars, do they?

866
00:41:47,000 --> 00:41:49,200
Speaker 4: I mean, what was the last erotic thriller that was?

867
00:41:49,320 --> 00:41:52,000
Speaker 4: Couldn't tell you, Yeah, I couldn't couldn't tell even think

868
00:41:52,040 --> 00:41:52,359
Speaker 4: of one.

869
00:41:52,480 --> 00:41:53,880
Speaker 3: I'll tell you the next one. Those ant men are

870
00:41:53,880 --> 00:41:56,640
Speaker 3: the wast quantu mania there there was so much sex

871
00:41:56,680 --> 00:41:58,719
Speaker 3: with horny as hell that the area people. I mean,

872
00:41:58,840 --> 00:42:01,319
Speaker 3: you can do anything theater. Let me just say I'm

873
00:42:01,320 --> 00:42:06,759
Speaker 3: giving you permission go to the theater. No rules, enjoy yourself.

874
00:42:07,120 --> 00:42:11,200
Speaker 4: Fits a dark room. Uh, facial care. Do you have

875
00:42:11,280 --> 00:42:12,400
Speaker 4: any type of routine?

876
00:42:13,239 --> 00:42:15,280
Speaker 3: No, I just kind of throw a lot of goop

877
00:42:15,400 --> 00:42:18,120
Speaker 3: and see what happens. A lot of experiments I've been trying.

878
00:42:18,280 --> 00:42:21,520
Speaker 3: I realized, like, Okay, I like, you know, I'm not

879
00:42:21,680 --> 00:42:23,960
Speaker 3: I'm not old, but also not young. It's like I'm

880
00:42:24,040 --> 00:42:26,040
Speaker 3: thirty three. It's like I got I should maybe like

881
00:42:26,800 --> 00:42:29,560
Speaker 3: start doing things to take care of myself. Don't know

882
00:42:29,600 --> 00:42:32,360
Speaker 3: what to do, And I got like a goop I

883
00:42:32,440 --> 00:42:34,120
Speaker 3: try to put on the morning. What is the goop

884
00:42:34,280 --> 00:42:38,240
Speaker 3: for moisturizing? Oh no, I'm moisturizing. I think, yeah, yeah,

885
00:42:38,320 --> 00:42:40,919
Speaker 3: there's to soften the skin. And maybe there's a night

886
00:42:40,960 --> 00:42:42,239
Speaker 3: goop that you put on as well.

887
00:42:43,200 --> 00:42:45,120
Speaker 4: We're who's recommending you these goops?

888
00:42:45,239 --> 00:42:48,000
Speaker 3: Oh? The algorithm on like the side of Instagram. It's

889
00:42:48,000 --> 00:42:52,359
Speaker 3: like man cream or I'm sure it's just like the

890
00:42:52,400 --> 00:42:57,839
Speaker 3: most disgusting jelly that put somewhere. Uh yeah, Like men

891
00:42:57,880 --> 00:43:00,120
Speaker 3: are very insecure, and I think we don't like to

892
00:43:00,200 --> 00:43:03,320
Speaker 3: admit it or something, so like every jail, every cream

893
00:43:03,440 --> 00:43:06,680
Speaker 3: is like made for those camping guys, or the manification

894
00:43:06,880 --> 00:43:10,560
Speaker 3: of like beauty products is so embarrassing. I honestly would

895
00:43:10,600 --> 00:43:13,359
Speaker 3: love to felt taken care of and be tender.

896
00:43:13,239 --> 00:43:15,799
Speaker 4: Right, and I'm happy to get a moisturizer out of

897
00:43:15,800 --> 00:43:16,760
Speaker 4: a beige.

898
00:43:17,320 --> 00:43:20,759
Speaker 3: Happy box or what have you. Be a man, embrace it, like, yeah, yeah,

899
00:43:20,800 --> 00:43:21,600
Speaker 3: take care of your.

900
00:43:21,480 --> 00:43:24,200
Speaker 4: Skin, yes, but I think we all should be doing

901
00:43:24,239 --> 00:43:26,560
Speaker 4: a little more care with our faces. I don't know

902
00:43:26,640 --> 00:43:28,080
Speaker 4: your your skin is flawless.

903
00:43:28,400 --> 00:43:31,000
Speaker 3: Thank you so much. You're an eligible bachelor? Would you

904
00:43:31,000 --> 00:43:35,000
Speaker 3: say that? Do we still have eligible bachelors? So I'm

905
00:43:35,000 --> 00:43:37,319
Speaker 3: still a confirmed bachelor too. Like the guy who just

906
00:43:37,400 --> 00:43:40,360
Speaker 3: sworn it all off and don't ask any more questions.

907
00:43:42,239 --> 00:43:46,239
Speaker 3: He loves the show. He loves the show biz, I don't. Yeah,

908
00:43:46,280 --> 00:43:47,600
Speaker 3: I got to get better at that. I think I've

909
00:43:47,880 --> 00:43:51,439
Speaker 3: I'm slowly working through I think my internal stuff at

910
00:43:51,480 --> 00:43:54,160
Speaker 3: like my you know, attachment, all that stuff. This is

911
00:43:54,160 --> 00:43:58,840
Speaker 3: a relationships podcast, it is now. Yeah, I want to

912
00:43:58,880 --> 00:44:01,520
Speaker 3: meet somebody, and I also so like I wanna I

913
00:44:01,560 --> 00:44:04,720
Speaker 3: got I think I'm very uncomfortable being paired with someone.

914
00:44:04,880 --> 00:44:08,160
Speaker 3: I always get very it's a weird I don't know

915
00:44:08,360 --> 00:44:11,040
Speaker 3: what it is, but I feel so nervous being like

916
00:44:11,120 --> 00:44:14,880
Speaker 3: attached to someone. Oh, okay, the partnership, ask, I don't know, I.

917
00:44:14,920 --> 00:44:17,680
Speaker 4: Was about that. That's making you so flighty.

918
00:44:17,840 --> 00:44:20,680
Speaker 3: I really don't know. And it's like an a rational thing,

919
00:44:20,760 --> 00:44:22,840
Speaker 3: like I feel like I need to escape or that

920
00:44:22,920 --> 00:44:26,279
Speaker 3: I'm trapped, or like I'm trying. I don't. I'm listening

921
00:44:26,320 --> 00:44:29,879
Speaker 3: to a lot of those Esther Parrelle podcasts. She's pretty great.

922
00:44:29,960 --> 00:44:32,920
Speaker 3: What is it? What's that one called? Oh where she

923
00:44:33,000 --> 00:44:35,120
Speaker 3: would begin? Yeah? Yeah, I just I love I mean,

924
00:44:35,160 --> 00:44:36,880
Speaker 3: if I was a better impressionist, I would love to

925
00:44:36,920 --> 00:44:39,160
Speaker 3: do like an ester pair or I would love to

926
00:44:39,160 --> 00:44:42,640
Speaker 3: play Esther Peril's like dog shit boyfriend on the episode

927
00:44:42,640 --> 00:44:44,680
Speaker 3: who like comes in and it's just mean to her

928
00:44:44,800 --> 00:44:49,399
Speaker 3: or like talks over She's like clearly in a bad relationship.

929
00:44:50,000 --> 00:44:53,880
Speaker 3: She's a fraud, but I'm working on it. It's like

930
00:44:53,920 --> 00:44:56,799
Speaker 3: I think that just means I'm uncomfortable with myself. It

931
00:44:56,880 --> 00:44:58,759
Speaker 3: might and so it's like I need to you know,

932
00:44:58,840 --> 00:45:00,759
Speaker 3: It's it's that cliche, like you need to be more

933
00:45:00,800 --> 00:45:03,960
Speaker 3: comfortable with yourself and then someone else can be there.

934
00:45:04,080 --> 00:45:06,640
Speaker 3: But hmm, if I'm not comfortable, Jeff, no one else

935
00:45:06,680 --> 00:45:07,759
Speaker 3: is gonna be want to be around you.

936
00:45:07,880 --> 00:45:11,080
Speaker 4: Well, let let me sell you to you. You know

937
00:45:11,120 --> 00:45:14,040
Speaker 4: how to play the piano, you've got flawless skin, you're

938
00:45:14,040 --> 00:45:18,600
Speaker 4: a world traveler, You've got a big Hollywood hit. I mean,

939
00:45:19,000 --> 00:45:21,799
Speaker 4: the listener has got to What if listeners comfort Jeff?

940
00:45:21,840 --> 00:45:24,839
Speaker 3: What if? I mean I thought about this, like, what

941
00:45:24,920 --> 00:45:28,319
Speaker 3: if I killed the superhero mate? Would that be a

942
00:45:28,360 --> 00:45:29,480
Speaker 3: blessing or a curse?

943
00:45:29,520 --> 00:45:29,600
Speaker 2: Like?

944
00:45:29,640 --> 00:45:33,000
Speaker 3: What if I killed Superhero movies? That would be incredible

945
00:45:33,080 --> 00:45:39,960
Speaker 3: if those gags were real bad. Yeah, it's like the

946
00:45:40,960 --> 00:45:42,520
Speaker 3: it's like a government fall.

947
00:45:43,920 --> 00:45:44,000
Speaker 4: That.

948
00:45:44,480 --> 00:45:47,000
Speaker 3: Like I was sitting there like on set one day,

949
00:45:47,040 --> 00:45:49,160
Speaker 3: I'm like, I don't know how much of the budget

950
00:45:49,160 --> 00:45:51,000
Speaker 3: even what you know, these movies are like two hundred

951
00:45:51,080 --> 00:45:53,640
Speaker 3: million dollars And I was just thinking, like I wrote

952
00:45:53,680 --> 00:45:58,200
Speaker 3: this like on my couch. They're in COVID, and I'm like,

953
00:45:58,640 --> 00:46:00,400
Speaker 3: I don't think I should tell anyone that I like

954
00:46:00,520 --> 00:46:00,920
Speaker 3: wrote this.

955
00:46:01,640 --> 00:46:04,719
Speaker 4: Last It's weird when like a movie or TV show

956
00:46:04,760 --> 00:46:07,640
Speaker 4: gets made. During the process, everyone's like there's so much

957
00:46:07,680 --> 00:46:10,640
Speaker 4: money being poured into it and everyone's excited, but there's

958
00:46:10,640 --> 00:46:12,880
Speaker 4: always a chance that it doesn't do well.

959
00:46:12,960 --> 00:46:16,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly, I and like that, but I I not

960
00:46:16,239 --> 00:46:18,120
Speaker 3: to you know, I gotta get better at selling stuff too.

961
00:46:18,120 --> 00:46:21,399
Speaker 3: There's always like, but I actually, this actually is kind

962
00:46:21,400 --> 00:46:23,960
Speaker 3: of a fun moment because like you don't know, like

963
00:46:24,040 --> 00:46:25,759
Speaker 3: it's it's about two weeks.

964
00:46:25,480 --> 00:46:28,920
Speaker 5: Before you're dreading that moment and it's like this like

965
00:46:29,239 --> 00:46:33,000
Speaker 5: thrill of like I think it's pretty good, but you

966
00:46:33,080 --> 00:46:34,799
Speaker 5: never know, and it's like, oh, is this gonna be

967
00:46:34,800 --> 00:46:35,680
Speaker 5: like an ishtar thing?

968
00:46:35,800 --> 00:46:38,960
Speaker 3: There's this like have you just so wildly over? Like

969
00:46:39,000 --> 00:46:40,920
Speaker 3: are you too deep? But I don't know. I think

970
00:46:40,920 --> 00:46:43,239
Speaker 3: I'm willing to bet. Like I think Jonathan Major's like

971
00:46:43,320 --> 00:46:45,880
Speaker 3: brings it in a way that is like he's just

972
00:46:45,960 --> 00:46:48,640
Speaker 3: fun to watch. And then like I think it's goofy

973
00:46:48,680 --> 00:46:51,120
Speaker 3: and fun. Paul Rudd is great, Like, yeah, we'll see,

974
00:46:51,120 --> 00:46:51,520
Speaker 3: we'll see.

975
00:46:51,560 --> 00:46:54,160
Speaker 4: Well, I feel like after your appearance on this podcast,

976
00:46:54,360 --> 00:46:58,719
Speaker 4: I mean it's gonna get the bump clicks through. Yeah,

977
00:46:59,080 --> 00:47:01,560
Speaker 4: that movie does nothing to worry about. After the release

978
00:47:01,600 --> 00:47:07,320
Speaker 4: of this episode, Avatar watch out, Jeff, I have a look,

979
00:47:07,400 --> 00:47:09,000
Speaker 4: I don't want to steer us away from this, but

980
00:47:09,200 --> 00:47:13,239
Speaker 4: there's I want to do something, something a little unconventional,

981
00:47:13,280 --> 00:47:15,680
Speaker 4: something that hasn't happened on this podcast. Before I'm going

982
00:47:15,719 --> 00:47:17,239
Speaker 4: to stand up, I'll be right back on.

983
00:47:18,200 --> 00:47:24,080
Speaker 3: Wow. Okay, he's moving. My god, Jeff, I have a

984
00:47:24,120 --> 00:47:27,560
Speaker 3: gift for you, oh, Bridger.

985
00:47:28,440 --> 00:47:30,720
Speaker 4: Yeah, I uh, there's a card here.

986
00:47:31,200 --> 00:47:33,520
Speaker 3: Oh and this is for this is for on air.

987
00:47:33,600 --> 00:47:37,759
Speaker 3: This is on air. I knew something was up.

988
00:47:38,080 --> 00:47:41,080
Speaker 4: I felt there was an electricity in the air, you know,

989
00:47:41,239 --> 00:47:43,840
Speaker 4: I mean, I thought I have to put up a

990
00:47:43,880 --> 00:47:46,680
Speaker 4: defense this time. I have to protect myself. Okay, so

991
00:47:46,760 --> 00:47:49,399
Speaker 4: this is this is actually a U and I said,

992
00:47:49,400 --> 00:47:51,920
Speaker 4: no gifts card kind of tacky if maybe can be

993
00:47:51,960 --> 00:47:52,760
Speaker 4: purchased online.

994
00:47:52,880 --> 00:47:56,320
Speaker 3: So okay, so this is branded content.

995
00:47:56,400 --> 00:47:58,680
Speaker 4: Okay, okay, these are the only cards I had in

996
00:47:58,719 --> 00:48:02,560
Speaker 4: my house. But yeah, I wrote a card for.

997
00:48:02,480 --> 00:48:05,680
Speaker 3: You, thinking of you and now hopefully you're thinking of me.

998
00:48:05,800 --> 00:48:09,040
Speaker 3: Otherwise the money I spent on this card was wasted. Okay, excellent,

999
00:48:09,160 --> 00:48:12,840
Speaker 3: excellent card, Jeff. Now I'm giving you a gift. I

1000
00:48:12,840 --> 00:48:16,160
Speaker 3: can do whatever I want. It's my podcast, yours, Bridger.

1001
00:48:16,520 --> 00:48:19,040
Speaker 3: This is like when an axe swings in and kills me.

1002
00:48:20,920 --> 00:48:23,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, I thought of why not get Jeff a gift?

1003
00:48:24,239 --> 00:48:25,960
Speaker 3: Would you like to open it here on the podcast.

1004
00:48:26,000 --> 00:48:29,080
Speaker 3: I would love to. Bridger, Oh, thank you so much. Uh,

1005
00:48:33,280 --> 00:48:36,480
Speaker 3: this is something we've talked about. It's called Seize the Moment,

1006
00:48:36,600 --> 00:48:40,760
Speaker 3: America's challenge in a one superpowered world. Bye best selling

1007
00:48:40,880 --> 00:48:44,800
Speaker 3: author Richard Nixon. And you know what, great picture of

1008
00:48:44,840 --> 00:48:47,160
Speaker 3: Nixon on the back. Excellent picture of our favorite author.

1009
00:48:47,880 --> 00:48:51,640
Speaker 4: I was at the Glendale Goodwill as I do, kind

1010
00:48:51,640 --> 00:48:54,680
Speaker 4: of browsing a few weeks ago, and I came across

1011
00:48:54,719 --> 00:48:55,240
Speaker 4: this book.

1012
00:48:56,480 --> 00:48:57,000
Speaker 3: Was shocked.

1013
00:48:57,040 --> 00:49:00,560
Speaker 4: I mean, I didn't realize that Richard Nixon was, uh

1014
00:49:01,000 --> 00:49:02,200
Speaker 4: a best selling author.

1015
00:49:02,239 --> 00:49:05,400
Speaker 3: And you open the book. In the first couple of pages,

1016
00:49:05,440 --> 00:49:08,160
Speaker 3: it says other books by I'm looking at right now.

1017
00:49:08,200 --> 00:49:11,759
Speaker 3: He's written eight other books and one is called No

1018
00:49:11,840 --> 00:49:17,360
Speaker 3: More Vietnam's which that's a pretty good idea. Nixon whose

1019
00:49:17,360 --> 00:49:17,880
Speaker 3: idea was.

1020
00:49:17,880 --> 00:49:22,520
Speaker 4: That, yeah, this book, Like I haven't read anything else

1021
00:49:22,560 --> 00:49:25,560
Speaker 4: other than that. But like, at a cursory glance, you

1022
00:49:25,560 --> 00:49:28,080
Speaker 4: would almost think that he had never been president, that

1023
00:49:28,120 --> 00:49:30,520
Speaker 4: he was just a best selling author like a John Grisham.

1024
00:49:31,440 --> 00:49:34,759
Speaker 3: Yes, that is to me the funniest era of like

1025
00:49:34,800 --> 00:49:39,120
Speaker 3: the now this just instant like ever present celebrity that

1026
00:49:39,120 --> 00:49:41,600
Speaker 3: everyone has to have, Like Bill Clinton is writing like

1027
00:49:41,640 --> 00:49:44,480
Speaker 3: political thrillers, that's right, and Hillary Clinton is doing it

1028
00:49:44,520 --> 00:49:46,320
Speaker 3: and like the hair Prince Harry has to do like

1029
00:49:46,360 --> 00:49:49,640
Speaker 3: a memoir that makes everyone like him less. Like you

1030
00:49:49,680 --> 00:49:53,680
Speaker 3: don't have Obama's hosting like a National Parks documentary. You

1031
00:49:53,719 --> 00:49:56,080
Speaker 3: simply don't have to do jobs away from gen k.

1032
00:49:59,040 --> 00:49:59,160
Speaker 1: Uh.

1033
00:49:59,520 --> 00:49:59,719
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1034
00:50:00,239 --> 00:50:03,120
Speaker 4: The Clinton's co writing those books is anytime a book

1035
00:50:03,200 --> 00:50:06,120
Speaker 4: is written by two people, I'm like, that's a bad book.

1036
00:50:06,239 --> 00:50:08,319
Speaker 3: You should write a book, Bridger, I mean I said no.

1037
00:50:08,520 --> 00:50:11,480
Speaker 4: With Hillary Clinton, she and I get together and write

1038
00:50:11,520 --> 00:50:11,920
Speaker 4: a thriller.

1039
00:50:11,960 --> 00:50:14,400
Speaker 3: I can talk my friend. There was that viral clip

1040
00:50:14,440 --> 00:50:17,600
Speaker 3: going around about like Hillary's talking like a French mime

1041
00:50:17,719 --> 00:50:20,640
Speaker 3: or something. For a while, my friend was on that show.

1042
00:50:20,880 --> 00:50:24,400
Speaker 3: Her name is Natalie Paliminez. She's like a great improviser comedian.

1043
00:50:24,719 --> 00:50:26,920
Speaker 3: She'd have her on the show to live with her

1044
00:50:27,160 --> 00:50:29,560
Speaker 3: a long time ago. Yeah, yeah, roommate for a long time.

1045
00:50:29,719 --> 00:50:33,319
Speaker 3: She like lassoed into this thne of like you do

1046
00:50:33,360 --> 00:50:35,640
Speaker 3: clown work, right, Yeah, I guess a little bit. Okay,

1047
00:50:35,640 --> 00:50:39,799
Speaker 3: come be with Hillary Clinton and this French clown. She

1048
00:50:39,840 --> 00:50:42,920
Speaker 3: had no idea she had to sign all these nbash

1049
00:50:43,880 --> 00:50:46,000
Speaker 3: and I think like that's maybe the most random jobs.

1050
00:50:46,000 --> 00:50:48,439
Speaker 3: Like you get flown to Paris to do clown work

1051
00:50:48,480 --> 00:50:51,560
Speaker 3: with Hillary Clinton and guess what, she's not a natural.

1052
00:50:53,440 --> 00:50:56,120
Speaker 4: That's fascinating. So I feel like I just saw a

1053
00:50:56,120 --> 00:50:58,360
Speaker 4: bit of the clip. What happened, I don't know. I

1054
00:50:58,400 --> 00:50:59,040
Speaker 4: can't tell you.

1055
00:50:59,480 --> 00:51:03,600
Speaker 3: I think she was trying to make some connection between

1056
00:51:04,480 --> 00:51:08,400
Speaker 3: gutsy women, gutsy women, and the act of clowning something.

1057
00:51:08,400 --> 00:51:10,400
Speaker 4: Now there aren't there aren't a lot of women clowns

1058
00:51:10,520 --> 00:51:13,239
Speaker 4: or well, I don't know that anyone to ask for

1059
00:51:13,280 --> 00:51:13,799
Speaker 4: any of that.

1060
00:51:14,040 --> 00:51:15,200
Speaker 3: There's not a lot of clowns.

1061
00:51:15,239 --> 00:51:18,399
Speaker 4: In general, clowning is coming back in a big way.

1062
00:51:18,480 --> 00:51:21,600
Speaker 4: Clown a lot of clowning, that's true. People love to clown,

1063
00:51:22,160 --> 00:51:25,759
Speaker 4: the physical act of clowning. But yeah, I thought I

1064
00:51:25,760 --> 00:51:27,640
Speaker 4: would get you this book. You love you know, I

1065
00:51:27,680 --> 00:51:32,120
Speaker 4: love Nixon. You love Nixon. You're a Nixon apologist.

1066
00:51:31,640 --> 00:51:32,200
Speaker 3: To the end.

1067
00:51:33,000 --> 00:51:33,279
Speaker 4: Do you know what?

1068
00:51:33,600 --> 00:51:35,319
Speaker 3: You know? He did more to prevent World War Three

1069
00:51:35,360 --> 00:51:40,440
Speaker 3: than anyone? I would say, Well, look, opening up relations

1070
00:51:40,440 --> 00:51:44,200
Speaker 3: with MAOIs China, cooling things with the Brezhnev era of

1071
00:51:44,239 --> 00:51:46,720
Speaker 3: the Soviet Union. I mean, we take the seventies for granted.

1072
00:51:46,760 --> 00:51:48,600
Speaker 3: He you know, we were out the pressure cooker in

1073
00:51:48,640 --> 00:51:52,960
Speaker 3: sixty nine, and didn't he start the EPA probably yeah, no, no,

1074
00:51:53,239 --> 00:51:55,319
Speaker 3: And he wanted to do he wanted to do like

1075
00:51:55,320 --> 00:51:57,160
Speaker 3: a basic income thing that never came off.

1076
00:51:57,160 --> 00:52:01,320
Speaker 4: Okay, obviously Nixon has his down sat can't name one.

1077
00:52:01,280 --> 00:52:03,920
Speaker 3: No, no, But like looking he is this sort of

1078
00:52:03,960 --> 00:52:08,560
Speaker 3: like broken American figure that like no one likes him.

1079
00:52:08,600 --> 00:52:11,320
Speaker 3: He tried so hard and just made it worse and worse.

1080
00:52:11,880 --> 00:52:15,759
Speaker 3: A monstrous person obviously, just a terrible guy. But uh,

1081
00:52:16,200 --> 00:52:18,080
Speaker 3: it is funny looking back and like, oh wow, he

1082
00:52:18,120 --> 00:52:22,000
Speaker 3: actually like did something. Nixon had a vision that never

1083
00:52:22,040 --> 00:52:22,840
Speaker 3: got realized.

1084
00:52:23,080 --> 00:52:25,160
Speaker 4: It's weird to me to think that he like lived

1085
00:52:25,200 --> 00:52:27,480
Speaker 4: into the like the nineties. Like it's weird to think

1086
00:52:27,520 --> 00:52:30,359
Speaker 4: about Richard Nixon existing in the nineties because you only

1087
00:52:30,360 --> 00:52:31,799
Speaker 4: think about him in the seventies.

1088
00:52:31,880 --> 00:52:33,840
Speaker 3: Have you seen interviews with him in like the nineties.

1089
00:52:33,880 --> 00:52:36,879
Speaker 4: No, there he does one entertainment tonight.

1090
00:52:37,360 --> 00:52:39,040
Speaker 3: Half of this is a bit, but half of it

1091
00:52:39,080 --> 00:52:42,120
Speaker 3: is like there's some like Nixon wisdom at the very

1092
00:52:42,239 --> 00:52:44,439
Speaker 3: end of his life where he just talks about how

1093
00:52:44,480 --> 00:52:49,480
Speaker 3: empty like success is and how empty, oh like the retirement.

1094
00:52:49,719 --> 00:52:51,239
Speaker 3: He's like, you know, just the I can't do a

1095
00:52:51,320 --> 00:52:54,680
Speaker 3: Nixon impression be like, oh, you know, the palm beaches

1096
00:52:54,719 --> 00:52:57,160
Speaker 3: and the and the watering holes of the world are

1097
00:52:57,200 --> 00:53:01,520
Speaker 3: full of such empty, empty people. I'm like, there's this feeling.

1098
00:53:01,680 --> 00:53:03,759
Speaker 3: God d Nixon. He was like, He's like, the only

1099
00:53:03,800 --> 00:53:09,000
Speaker 3: time that matters is purpose, fight, the struggle. I'm like, oh, Nixon, Okay,

1100
00:53:09,040 --> 00:53:12,320
Speaker 3: come down Nixon. But there was a moment of grace.

1101
00:53:12,360 --> 00:53:15,160
Speaker 3: There was like this man truly has lived, lived the

1102
00:53:15,200 --> 00:53:16,120
Speaker 3: American century.

1103
00:53:16,360 --> 00:53:18,160
Speaker 4: Was this on a book press tour.

1104
00:53:18,280 --> 00:53:21,520
Speaker 3: I think it was like some nineties like Sunday Morning

1105
00:53:21,640 --> 00:53:24,960
Speaker 3: Show and he died like two days later. Okay. It

1106
00:53:25,000 --> 00:53:27,000
Speaker 3: was one of his last interviews where he just like

1107
00:53:27,320 --> 00:53:29,760
Speaker 3: said this harrowing thing about the American dream.

1108
00:53:29,800 --> 00:53:33,839
Speaker 4: Then the final words with Richard Nixon, well fascinating. Well,

1109
00:53:33,880 --> 00:53:34,960
Speaker 4: I just thought I would get you that.

1110
00:53:35,320 --> 00:53:37,600
Speaker 3: Lovely thank you. I love getting gifts.

1111
00:53:37,760 --> 00:53:39,919
Speaker 4: I went to the Goodwill, and I like, I had

1112
00:53:39,960 --> 00:53:43,040
Speaker 4: seen that a few weeks ago, and I thought, maybe

1113
00:53:43,080 --> 00:53:44,960
Speaker 4: they'll still have it. But I did see some other things.

1114
00:53:45,000 --> 00:53:47,560
Speaker 4: I'll tell you the other things I considered. First, there

1115
00:53:47,600 --> 00:53:50,400
Speaker 4: was a book called Home by Ellen DeGeneres, which she

1116
00:53:50,480 --> 00:53:54,960
Speaker 4: kind of guides you through how to decorate your home good. Yes, yeah,

1117
00:53:55,040 --> 00:53:57,520
Speaker 4: famous interior decorator. Then this was a kind of a

1118
00:53:57,560 --> 00:54:00,360
Speaker 4: sad thing to see. It was a thing welcome to

1119
00:54:00,400 --> 00:54:02,640
Speaker 4: our drive through baby shower, thank you for coming. So

1120
00:54:02,640 --> 00:54:05,560
Speaker 4: I think it was kind of a pandemic baby shower.

1121
00:54:05,600 --> 00:54:08,440
Speaker 4: It's kind of a They made a book like, they

1122
00:54:08,480 --> 00:54:11,200
Speaker 4: made sign, a beautiful cute sign. I don't I don't

1123
00:54:11,239 --> 00:54:15,440
Speaker 4: know why someone would buy that at this point. Let's

1124
00:54:15,480 --> 00:54:17,680
Speaker 4: see here there was a sign that said, sometimes a

1125
00:54:17,680 --> 00:54:19,800
Speaker 4: glass of wine with a friend is all the therapy

1126
00:54:19,840 --> 00:54:22,920
Speaker 4: you need. There was a photo of a couple on

1127
00:54:22,960 --> 00:54:25,759
Speaker 4: their fiftieth anniversary. We don't know what happened there.

1128
00:54:26,360 --> 00:54:28,920
Speaker 3: Ever seen again? And that was it.

1129
00:54:29,000 --> 00:54:31,040
Speaker 4: But I ultimately had to settle on.

1130
00:54:31,520 --> 00:54:33,400
Speaker 3: You would write with Mixon. Also, I just like that

1131
00:54:33,440 --> 00:54:36,680
Speaker 3: he's writing all these political books about like who's out there,

1132
00:54:36,680 --> 00:54:39,160
Speaker 3: like you know what, who's going to make in decisions?

1133
00:54:40,040 --> 00:54:42,520
Speaker 3: Richard Nixon? Him back in the chair.

1134
00:54:42,880 --> 00:54:45,520
Speaker 4: It's also fun to imagine him sitting down at a typewriter,

1135
00:54:46,200 --> 00:54:47,520
Speaker 4: just click clacking away.

1136
00:54:47,600 --> 00:54:52,160
Speaker 3: What if it's really good? It's a page turn sentences.

1137
00:54:52,200 --> 00:54:53,359
Speaker 3: He has a Steinbeck.

1138
00:54:53,920 --> 00:54:57,239
Speaker 4: I hope that this turns you politically. Yeah, we was.

1139
00:54:57,280 --> 00:55:00,520
Speaker 3: Married to Joan Didion for a couple of years. What Joan,

1140
00:55:00,640 --> 00:55:02,279
Speaker 3: I just want to say, I messed up and I

1141
00:55:03,960 --> 00:55:04,799
Speaker 3: miss you every day.

1142
00:55:07,280 --> 00:55:09,279
Speaker 4: Okay, well it's time to play a game. Of course,

1143
00:55:09,440 --> 00:55:11,680
Speaker 4: last time we played Gift Master. I think it's only

1144
00:55:11,880 --> 00:55:14,319
Speaker 4: fair that today we play Gift or a Curse. Oh right, yes,

1145
00:55:14,640 --> 00:55:16,879
Speaker 4: I need, of course a number between one and ten

1146
00:55:16,920 --> 00:55:17,160
Speaker 4: from you.

1147
00:55:18,120 --> 00:55:20,640
Speaker 3: Last time, I believe I did seven. Ooh, lucky number.

1148
00:55:20,719 --> 00:55:23,440
Speaker 3: This time, let's go, Let's go three. Okay.

1149
00:55:23,440 --> 00:55:26,160
Speaker 4: With the number three, I will begin calculating, and you,

1150
00:55:26,200 --> 00:55:28,640
Speaker 4: of course have the mic for a minute to recommend, promote,

1151
00:55:28,680 --> 00:55:29,680
Speaker 4: do whatever you want anyway.

1152
00:55:29,800 --> 00:55:33,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, hey, they're Marvel fans. I'm talking about at Maan

1153
00:55:33,640 --> 00:55:38,960
Speaker 3: in the Wasp Quantum Mania in theaters February seventeenth. That's

1154
00:55:38,960 --> 00:55:41,279
Speaker 3: about it. It's kind of put that on a few

1155
00:55:41,920 --> 00:55:46,200
Speaker 3: reaction VIDs if you want tweet that around am in

1156
00:55:46,280 --> 00:55:47,960
Speaker 3: of the Wasp February coming out.

1157
00:55:48,000 --> 00:55:50,520
Speaker 4: We've got to get to the theater otherwise Jeff's career

1158
00:55:50,560 --> 00:55:51,120
Speaker 4: will be over.

1159
00:55:51,160 --> 00:55:53,120
Speaker 3: The movies are back. That's the important thing.

1160
00:55:54,800 --> 00:55:57,120
Speaker 4: Okay, Gift to a Curse. I name three things. You

1161
00:55:57,239 --> 00:55:58,600
Speaker 4: tell me if they're a gift or a curse, and

1162
00:55:58,680 --> 00:56:02,000
Speaker 4: why and and of course there are correct answers. You

1163
00:56:02,040 --> 00:56:04,720
Speaker 4: can lose, you can win, you can be a middling

1164
00:56:04,800 --> 00:56:09,080
Speaker 4: sixty six percent. There are several things zero. You can

1165
00:56:09,120 --> 00:56:12,640
Speaker 4: be a total zero. Let's see what happens. Okay, First up,

1166
00:56:12,680 --> 00:56:16,520
Speaker 4: this is a listener suggestion from someone named Sarah Gift

1167
00:56:16,560 --> 00:56:19,920
Speaker 4: or a curse cooking videos where the chef takes bites

1168
00:56:19,960 --> 00:56:23,239
Speaker 4: of the finished dish and we're forced to watch them eat.

1169
00:56:24,440 --> 00:56:26,560
Speaker 3: This is tough because this kind of hits close to

1170
00:56:26,600 --> 00:56:30,759
Speaker 3: the BBC like quippy science person for me, like it's

1171
00:56:30,760 --> 00:56:35,479
Speaker 3: not about you. But then again, on the flip side bridge,

1172
00:56:35,480 --> 00:56:37,560
Speaker 3: you're like when you watch a travel on a food show,

1173
00:56:37,600 --> 00:56:39,959
Speaker 3: you need that shot of them being like, oh that's good,

1174
00:56:40,120 --> 00:56:42,319
Speaker 3: Like you need that's why you watch the show. You

1175
00:56:42,360 --> 00:56:44,840
Speaker 3: see like Bordain kind of open up a bit. I

1176
00:56:44,920 --> 00:56:47,399
Speaker 3: wanna say, curse though, if it's a video and it's

1177
00:56:47,400 --> 00:56:52,240
Speaker 3: a guy in their home, curse Jeff wrong. It's a gift.

1178
00:56:52,600 --> 00:56:54,800
Speaker 4: I have to see the person eat that. I can't

1179
00:56:54,880 --> 00:56:56,799
Speaker 4: have somebody guide me through a recipe and then not

1180
00:56:56,880 --> 00:57:00,640
Speaker 4: try it. What the these suspicion I'll have that recipe?

1181
00:57:00,840 --> 00:57:03,040
Speaker 3: Who do I trust? Yeah, it's going in the trash, right.

1182
00:57:03,480 --> 00:57:06,360
Speaker 4: I need to see the emotion there. I need to

1183
00:57:06,400 --> 00:57:09,080
Speaker 4: see I need to see them satisfied with the dish.

1184
00:57:09,400 --> 00:57:12,160
Speaker 4: Otherwise it feels like there's no ending to the story.

1185
00:57:12,239 --> 00:57:14,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, you're right. I beefed it. I messed up. I

1186
00:57:14,520 --> 00:57:15,360
Speaker 3: talk myself out of it.

1187
00:57:16,480 --> 00:57:18,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, of course, nobody likes to see somebody

1188
00:57:18,600 --> 00:57:21,560
Speaker 4: else eat or hear someone joy themselves if you enjoy

1189
00:57:21,600 --> 00:57:25,480
Speaker 4: themselves in general. I mean, that's a true hell, but

1190
00:57:25,600 --> 00:57:29,120
Speaker 4: I think it's necessary. I would be very suspicious of

1191
00:57:29,160 --> 00:57:32,200
Speaker 4: a video where someone makes a dish and then kind

1192
00:57:32,280 --> 00:57:37,680
Speaker 4: of pushes it aside. What's happening there, it's unfortunately for everyone.

1193
00:57:37,720 --> 00:57:42,760
Speaker 4: It's a gift. So zero so far. Number two. This

1194
00:57:42,800 --> 00:57:45,760
Speaker 4: is from someone named Eden. Gift or a curse when

1195
00:57:45,840 --> 00:57:49,360
Speaker 4: someone ends an email or message with the phrase more

1196
00:57:49,400 --> 00:57:49,800
Speaker 4: to come.

1197
00:57:54,040 --> 00:57:57,600
Speaker 3: We're both in the industry, so this could mean good things.

1198
00:57:57,920 --> 00:58:00,920
Speaker 3: This could mean I mean, I love when the agents

1199
00:58:00,920 --> 00:58:05,040
Speaker 3: are pumped. There's more to come, more to come? Ah, oh,

1200
00:58:05,200 --> 00:58:07,480
Speaker 3: I mean Bridger. Now I doubt myself.

1201
00:58:07,680 --> 00:58:10,240
Speaker 4: I don't know I've got you exactly where I want.

1202
00:58:12,640 --> 00:58:15,560
Speaker 3: Well, I mean, okay, I'll stop dancing around. You need

1203
00:58:15,560 --> 00:58:17,080
Speaker 3: to make a choice. I'm gonna you know, I'm gonna

1204
00:58:17,080 --> 00:58:19,680
Speaker 3: say curse. It's a curse because email is a bad

1205
00:58:19,720 --> 00:58:21,760
Speaker 3: for you. If you didn't talk more, I don't want

1206
00:58:21,760 --> 00:58:23,360
Speaker 3: to know. I would rather than call me on the

1207
00:58:23,400 --> 00:58:26,040
Speaker 3: phone time. What's going on? Okay, there's more to come.

1208
00:58:28,120 --> 00:58:33,280
Speaker 4: Jeff, Right, Look, there are just other ways to say

1209
00:58:33,320 --> 00:58:36,960
Speaker 4: more to come. There are these phrases throughout email that

1210
00:58:37,160 --> 00:58:40,200
Speaker 4: just get copy and pasted. Jeff is so relieved right now,

1211
00:58:40,360 --> 00:58:42,360
Speaker 4: he's got a chance he might survive.

1212
00:58:44,040 --> 00:58:44,240
Speaker 3: More.

1213
00:58:44,480 --> 00:58:46,720
Speaker 4: Yeah, give you a call or tell me what's coming.

1214
00:58:47,160 --> 00:58:49,520
Speaker 4: Don't leave these I mean this is actually kind of

1215
00:58:49,520 --> 00:58:52,600
Speaker 4: related to the eating thing. I need these cleared, the

1216
00:58:52,600 --> 00:58:56,360
Speaker 4: climate cuts. Yeah, I need things to be told and finished.

1217
00:58:56,720 --> 00:58:59,960
Speaker 4: I can't have these dangling things happening in my life.

1218
00:59:00,000 --> 00:59:03,600
Speaker 4: I'm I'm uncertain about everything already. So this is a curse.

1219
00:59:04,080 --> 00:59:05,520
Speaker 4: The phrasing of it's so annoying.

1220
00:59:06,200 --> 00:59:10,720
Speaker 3: You didn't try your best? Oh no, you may, I'm like, really.

1221
00:59:12,880 --> 00:59:15,800
Speaker 4: Did an excellent job. This is a perfect suggestion, Eden, right,

1222
00:59:15,960 --> 00:59:17,520
Speaker 4: I mean, Eden, you've got a career, and.

1223
00:59:17,560 --> 00:59:19,680
Speaker 3: It shows weakness is what it shows. More to come,

1224
00:59:19,800 --> 00:59:20,200
Speaker 3: more to come.

1225
00:59:20,840 --> 00:59:22,880
Speaker 4: It shows that this person doesn't have they didn't bring

1226
00:59:22,920 --> 00:59:24,760
Speaker 4: the full dish and have what it takes. You have

1227
00:59:24,800 --> 00:59:28,560
Speaker 4: what it takes. They're falling apart. We can't trust them. Okay,

1228
00:59:28,600 --> 00:59:31,000
Speaker 4: so you've gotten one out of two so far. Here's

1229
00:59:31,040 --> 00:59:34,240
Speaker 4: one more. This is not a listener suggestion, which is

1230
00:59:34,320 --> 00:59:37,280
Speaker 4: rare gift or a curse? Deep discounts on the brands

1231
00:59:37,320 --> 00:59:42,240
Speaker 4: you trust.

1232
00:59:42,440 --> 00:59:45,360
Speaker 3: You know a lot of thoughts swirling around my head

1233
00:59:45,400 --> 00:59:48,240
Speaker 3: right now. I'm gonna go with the gut. Maybe it's wrong,

1234
00:59:48,320 --> 00:59:51,000
Speaker 3: Maybe you'll burn me. Maybe you know your your little

1235
00:59:51,000 --> 00:59:55,280
Speaker 3: fans will throw tomatoes at the screen. Quantumania. I'm gonna

1236
00:59:55,280 --> 00:59:57,560
Speaker 3: say it's a gift because every once in a while,

1237
00:59:57,600 --> 01:00:00,640
Speaker 3: when your brand throws you a bone, they don't let

1238
01:00:00,680 --> 01:00:03,360
Speaker 3: you down. They say, hey, we're here for you. These

1239
01:00:03,520 --> 01:00:06,280
Speaker 3: Hawaiian rolls got a little banged up backstage. We're going

1240
01:00:06,360 --> 01:00:08,880
Speaker 3: to put them here in the manager Ben at Ralphs

1241
01:00:08,920 --> 01:00:11,439
Speaker 3: like that to me is a gift. It's I will

1242
01:00:11,480 --> 01:00:14,800
Speaker 3: take that for thirty cents, Thank you very much. To me,

1243
01:00:14,880 --> 01:00:17,640
Speaker 3: it's a gift. Now you know, open the flood.

1244
01:00:17,440 --> 01:00:22,600
Speaker 4: Gates, Jeff, How could I sit here on my own

1245
01:00:22,680 --> 01:00:26,160
Speaker 4: podcast where I talk about NonStop how I'm trying to

1246
01:00:26,160 --> 01:00:29,000
Speaker 4: save money and ruining my own life and say that

1247
01:00:29,200 --> 01:00:31,840
Speaker 4: deep discounts on the brands I trust are a curse.

1248
01:00:32,440 --> 01:00:36,240
Speaker 4: It's a gift, of course, of course, a gift. Anytime

1249
01:00:36,280 --> 01:00:38,520
Speaker 4: I get a deep discount on a brand I trust

1250
01:00:39,240 --> 01:00:42,840
Speaker 4: is that day is a gift, and my life continues

1251
01:00:43,160 --> 01:00:46,120
Speaker 4: for at least until I get another deep discount to

1252
01:00:46,160 --> 01:00:46,680
Speaker 4: be a gift.

1253
01:00:46,720 --> 01:00:49,480
Speaker 3: Now, when it's a brand you don't trust, are you hesitant?

1254
01:00:49,560 --> 01:00:51,240
Speaker 3: Do you say, like, I can't trust this brand.

1255
01:00:51,040 --> 01:00:53,920
Speaker 4: That's a curse, because I like the trap is set right.

1256
01:00:54,360 --> 01:00:56,560
Speaker 3: However, when's the last time you opened your heart to

1257
01:00:56,600 --> 01:00:58,960
Speaker 3: a new brand and you're like, well, I'll give him

1258
01:00:58,960 --> 01:01:03,800
Speaker 3: a shot, And like the Bure charcoal deep cleansing por strips,

1259
01:01:04,680 --> 01:01:06,440
Speaker 3: you know, maybe there's something there that you didn't realize.

1260
01:01:07,800 --> 01:01:12,480
Speaker 4: Less and less, as I grow old, I trust less brands.

1261
01:01:12,560 --> 01:01:14,280
Speaker 3: You calcify, you harden your hearse.

1262
01:01:14,360 --> 01:01:17,280
Speaker 4: I've found the brands that I trust, and I live

1263
01:01:17,360 --> 01:01:20,280
Speaker 4: with them and I rely on them. So when a

1264
01:01:20,320 --> 01:01:23,920
Speaker 4: new brand pops up, I panic, all right, But if

1265
01:01:23,960 --> 01:01:26,400
Speaker 4: there's a I mean, if there is a deep discount there,

1266
01:01:26,880 --> 01:01:29,000
Speaker 4: it's an opportunity to experiment.

1267
01:01:29,360 --> 01:01:33,160
Speaker 3: Absolutely ironically enough, this is the theme of quantum Mania,

1268
01:01:34,520 --> 01:01:37,520
Speaker 3: about like you know what, when's the last time you

1269
01:01:37,640 --> 01:01:40,040
Speaker 3: just went and saw a fun movie? Man, when's the

1270
01:01:40,080 --> 01:01:41,960
Speaker 3: last time he took your little cousin to a movie?

1271
01:01:42,720 --> 01:01:45,400
Speaker 3: You see him squeal and holler ant man goes big

1272
01:01:45,440 --> 01:01:47,760
Speaker 3: and small. He learns to let go a few things too.

1273
01:01:48,120 --> 01:01:51,200
Speaker 4: Okay, you know, does he save big at a like

1274
01:01:51,280 --> 01:01:53,120
Speaker 4: a fire sale or anything?

1275
01:01:53,240 --> 01:01:55,480
Speaker 3: He gets free coffee when part of the movie he

1276
01:01:55,520 --> 01:01:58,680
Speaker 3: gets he gets like discounts at Basking Robbins. Okay, there

1277
01:01:58,720 --> 01:02:02,640
Speaker 3: and he gets it's free coffee. But the old guy

1278
01:02:02,640 --> 01:02:06,880
Speaker 3: thinks he's Spider Man. Yeah, thrown in his face and

1279
01:02:07,040 --> 01:02:10,480
Speaker 3: spoiled in the trailers, and Robbins is making a big comeback.

1280
01:02:10,880 --> 01:02:13,560
Speaker 3: I guess they didn't pay us anything we wanted to

1281
01:02:13,600 --> 01:02:17,720
Speaker 3: work with that it was not a branding. I went deep,

1282
01:02:18,080 --> 01:02:20,320
Speaker 3: like I just want to use Basking Robins. I love

1283
01:02:20,360 --> 01:02:22,120
Speaker 3: Basking Robins. Hey, they're here to stay. Man, that is

1284
01:02:22,120 --> 01:02:24,800
Speaker 3: a brandy dress speaking.

1285
01:02:24,440 --> 01:02:28,120
Speaker 4: Of Okay, two out of three I can't remember. Yeah,

1286
01:02:28,240 --> 01:02:30,040
Speaker 4: last time we played Gift Masters, so you just won

1287
01:02:30,120 --> 01:02:33,640
Speaker 4: by uh the nature of the game. Today, you lost

1288
01:02:33,960 --> 01:02:37,160
Speaker 4: but didn't lose terribly right, Yeah, Okay, we have to

1289
01:02:37,240 --> 01:02:40,520
Speaker 4: answer a listener question. This is called I said no

1290
01:02:40,600 --> 01:02:44,120
Speaker 4: emails people right into I said, no gifts at gmail

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Speaker 4: dot com. My listeners, you know, we we say this

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01:02:47,720 --> 01:02:50,720
Speaker 4: every week. They've got problems, they their lives are out

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01:02:50,720 --> 01:02:56,200
Speaker 4: of come screaming to you, lawn voicemails forty five minute.

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01:02:56,840 --> 01:03:02,200
Speaker 4: My voicemail inbox is more than full of this. These

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01:03:02,200 --> 01:03:04,600
Speaker 4: are calls that should probably be rooted to nine one one,

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01:03:05,520 --> 01:03:08,240
Speaker 4: and they're looking to me. So we get these emails

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01:03:08,240 --> 01:03:10,680
Speaker 4: and we try to answer the questions the best we can.

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Speaker 3: Will you help me? Of course?

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Speaker 4: Okay, this says let's see this. We're gonna read this one.

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01:03:18,440 --> 01:03:20,400
Speaker 4: Dear Bridge, are an exceptional guest.

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01:03:20,680 --> 01:03:21,000
Speaker 3: That's you.

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01:03:21,560 --> 01:03:23,800
Speaker 4: All the plants in my home are fake. My husband

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01:03:23,880 --> 01:03:27,080
Speaker 4: and I know our limitations and abilities. Keeping nonverbal mystery

1304
01:03:27,080 --> 01:03:29,800
Speaker 4: greens alive does not fall within our shared skill set.

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Speaker 3: Okay.

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01:03:30,960 --> 01:03:34,320
Speaker 4: My in laws, while very nice, do not always consider

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01:03:34,360 --> 01:03:37,360
Speaker 4: the recipient when giving a gift. Okay, so maybe not

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01:03:37,520 --> 01:03:40,600
Speaker 4: very nice. This past Christmas, we received a beautiful and

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Speaker 4: unique cactus from my sister in law Sil. I'm seeing

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01:03:44,240 --> 01:03:46,720
Speaker 4: a lot of sil bil. This feels new to me.

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01:03:46,760 --> 01:03:48,800
Speaker 3: What is sil? Sister in law? Oh, I see it?

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01:03:48,880 --> 01:03:51,960
Speaker 4: This new acronym that feels new to me. Sister in

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01:03:52,040 --> 01:03:54,320
Speaker 4: law and her partner, who works with plants for a

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01:03:54,360 --> 01:03:56,760
Speaker 4: living and is passionate about them, so they got the

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Speaker 4: cactus from them. Okay, While delighted to receive the cat

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01:04:00,280 --> 01:04:02,440
Speaker 4: I'm more concerned about the fact that I've been handed

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01:04:02,480 --> 01:04:04,680
Speaker 4: not just an obligation, but what also seems to be

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01:04:04,720 --> 01:04:07,200
Speaker 4: some sort of test. Not only must we keep this

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01:04:07,240 --> 01:04:10,959
Speaker 4: cactus healthy, but we have to master basic cactus care.

1320
01:04:11,520 --> 01:04:13,720
Speaker 4: If we fail to care for a plant that survives

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01:04:13,800 --> 01:04:16,640
Speaker 4: drought and blazing sun, we will deeply hurt the gift givers.

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01:04:16,840 --> 01:04:19,160
Speaker 4: I like the gift givers, which is special because I,

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01:04:19,240 --> 01:04:21,640
Speaker 4: like so few people on this earth. We're learning a

1324
01:04:21,640 --> 01:04:25,520
Speaker 4: lot about this person. The details we've gotta pull back.

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01:04:26,680 --> 01:04:28,800
Speaker 4: I did not oh, this person says, I did not

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Speaker 4: ask for any of this. I feel you there. All

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01:04:32,360 --> 01:04:35,240
Speaker 4: of this sounds like simple anxiety. But sadly I followed

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01:04:35,280 --> 01:04:39,800
Speaker 4: plant partners instructions and the cactus is starting to turn brown.

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01:04:40,200 --> 01:04:42,640
Speaker 4: It's as if it knows that I'm the one caring

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01:04:42,680 --> 01:04:44,760
Speaker 4: for it. My sister in law and the plant partner

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01:04:44,800 --> 01:04:48,360
Speaker 4: are coming for a month visit in six months. Good Lord,

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01:04:48,960 --> 01:04:52,120
Speaker 4: I have already taken detailed photos and measured the height

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Speaker 4: and width of the cactus. Should I need to buy

1334
01:04:54,400 --> 01:04:57,040
Speaker 4: a new one right before they get there? Any suggestions

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01:04:57,080 --> 01:04:58,480
Speaker 4: and how do I prevent this sort of thing in

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Speaker 4: the future. I do not want any more chores. Thank

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01:05:01,520 --> 01:05:06,200
Speaker 4: you kind regards Sabrina. They them, Sabrina has I mean,

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01:05:06,280 --> 01:05:10,120
Speaker 4: speaking of chores, has just made me read a novel

1339
01:05:10,680 --> 01:05:13,680
Speaker 4: or at least a bare minimum a novella. Yeah, yeah,

1340
01:05:13,680 --> 01:05:19,200
Speaker 4: a thriller, I mean absolute patrio. What does Sabrina do

1341
01:05:19,240 --> 01:05:19,880
Speaker 4: in this situation?

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01:05:20,080 --> 01:05:23,680
Speaker 3: Don't I feel Sabrina? Just from the email, I feel

1343
01:05:23,680 --> 01:05:25,880
Speaker 3: maybe there's a lot of anxiety going on there. Maybe

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01:05:25,880 --> 01:05:29,120
Speaker 3: Sabrina needs to feel in control. I have this neighbor

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01:05:29,520 --> 01:05:33,240
Speaker 3: that grew up with called Cherry, lovely woman, decent, caring woman,

1346
01:05:34,000 --> 01:05:36,640
Speaker 3: always in trouble, but always a problem, always jumping around.

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01:05:36,800 --> 01:05:38,520
Speaker 4: Cherry was always in trouble, always.

1348
01:05:38,280 --> 01:05:40,120
Speaker 3: A half Oh no, no, it was just always like something

1349
01:05:40,200 --> 01:05:43,920
Speaker 3: was always going wrong. Oh, Cherry, you just got to

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01:05:43,960 --> 01:05:47,200
Speaker 3: calm down. And so I think cactuses. I don't know

1351
01:05:47,280 --> 01:05:50,480
Speaker 3: much about him, cartoonishly easy to take care of though,

1352
01:05:50,560 --> 01:05:52,200
Speaker 3: right like he just kind of water and it's in.

1353
01:05:52,120 --> 01:05:55,520
Speaker 4: The kind of a famous plant for needing nothing.

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01:05:55,560 --> 01:05:57,480
Speaker 3: Can't you just kind of like water it once a week,

1355
01:05:57,560 --> 01:06:00,919
Speaker 3: leave it alone, and then don't buy a placement. Don't

1356
01:06:00,920 --> 01:06:03,840
Speaker 3: do the sitcom thing of buying a new dog. Own

1357
01:06:03,920 --> 01:06:06,080
Speaker 3: up and say, you know, the cactus died and I'm sorry.

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01:06:06,320 --> 01:06:08,640
Speaker 3: She works with plants. She'll spot a fake a mile away.

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Speaker 4: This is what I'm thinking about, Sabrina. And tell me

1360
01:06:11,680 --> 01:06:15,520
Speaker 4: if I'm wrong. Sabrina is a people pleaser, yeah, and

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01:06:15,840 --> 01:06:21,960
Speaker 4: is so worried about sil and partner's feelings. I think

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01:06:22,000 --> 01:06:25,880
Speaker 4: that Sabrina, they've got to just say, come on over

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01:06:26,000 --> 01:06:28,680
Speaker 4: and rub their face in the dead plant. Yes, you

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01:06:28,760 --> 01:06:31,640
Speaker 4: gave this to me. There's there's no reason to try

1365
01:06:31,640 --> 01:06:32,280
Speaker 4: to make them happen.

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01:06:32,320 --> 01:06:35,000
Speaker 3: See something you like. And because if.

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01:06:34,920 --> 01:06:39,960
Speaker 4: Let's say Sabrina gets a new replacement, a body double

1368
01:06:40,480 --> 01:06:43,439
Speaker 4: the sister in law and brother or whoever.

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Speaker 3: And they'll spot it. They'll spot it.

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01:06:44,440 --> 01:06:46,280
Speaker 4: No, they're not going to spot it. What if they're tricked?

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Speaker 4: Next year they're giving Sabrina another plant?

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Speaker 3: Oh the cycle continues.

1373
01:06:49,800 --> 01:06:51,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, yes, I mean I'm guilty of a lot of

1374
01:06:51,720 --> 01:06:52,480
Speaker 4: these behaviors.

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01:06:52,600 --> 01:06:54,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, it sounds like Sabrina just needs to get real.

1376
01:06:55,080 --> 01:06:57,200
Speaker 4: Sabrina's got to get real with the people in their life.

1377
01:06:57,560 --> 01:06:59,800
Speaker 3: She use that as like your catch phrase for your

1378
01:06:59,800 --> 01:07:04,400
Speaker 3: inn and the show, get real. I like it. It's

1379
01:07:04,440 --> 01:07:06,280
Speaker 3: Bridger get real.

1380
01:07:06,840 --> 01:07:06,880
Speaker 2: No.

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01:07:07,080 --> 01:07:10,400
Speaker 4: I think Sabrina's big thing here is let it die.

1382
01:07:10,680 --> 01:07:14,480
Speaker 4: Do your best, but definitely let it die. And then

1383
01:07:14,520 --> 01:07:17,040
Speaker 4: they're going to show up in six months, And I

1384
01:07:17,080 --> 01:07:19,000
Speaker 4: mean by then, the plan is going to be rotting.

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01:07:19,280 --> 01:07:22,280
Speaker 4: It's going to be probably covered in mold. Uh, and

1386
01:07:22,320 --> 01:07:25,000
Speaker 4: it'll be a real like in your face, yes, spider

1387
01:07:25,000 --> 01:07:29,080
Speaker 4: webs inside of it. Something's going on, some sort of

1388
01:07:29,120 --> 01:07:33,480
Speaker 4: creature has made the cactus is home uh, and the problem.

1389
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Speaker 3: Will be solved. I think so.

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01:07:35,040 --> 01:07:38,720
Speaker 4: I think we've solved Sabrina's problem in a big way. Sabrina,

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01:07:39,280 --> 01:07:41,760
Speaker 4: do not write back, Do not write in again.

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Speaker 3: I do you have time for one more? Or I

1393
01:07:44,160 --> 01:07:46,240
Speaker 3: would do another? I would love Oh I love this.

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01:07:46,320 --> 01:07:48,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, okay, this says oh, I love getting it through

1395
01:07:48,720 --> 01:07:52,680
Speaker 4: you know weed whacking, you know deer bridger and wise

1396
01:07:52,720 --> 01:07:54,000
Speaker 4: but disrespectful guest.

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Speaker 3: Okay.

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01:07:54,720 --> 01:07:59,160
Speaker 4: My beloved mother is turning seventy five this year. Happy birthday, Mom.

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01:07:59,240 --> 01:08:01,640
Speaker 4: I'd love to do something meaningful for her. She is

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01:08:01,720 --> 01:08:04,040
Speaker 4: my best friend and has always been there. For me,

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01:08:04,320 --> 01:08:07,240
Speaker 4: The issue is that she doesn't need or want any

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01:08:07,320 --> 01:08:10,760
Speaker 4: more things. Money is no issue for her, but it

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01:08:10,840 --> 01:08:13,120
Speaker 4: is for me. So if I spend too much, I

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01:08:13,160 --> 01:08:16,080
Speaker 4: know she'll be unhappy. She doesn't like parties, so throwing

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01:08:16,120 --> 01:08:18,439
Speaker 4: a party is out of the question. We live many

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01:08:18,479 --> 01:08:21,160
Speaker 4: states apart, but I can travel to her. She's very

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01:08:21,200 --> 01:08:24,840
Speaker 4: active and enjoys kayaking, golf, yoga, going to the beach

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01:08:25,240 --> 01:08:28,160
Speaker 4: and walking. Is there any kind of experience we could

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01:08:28,200 --> 01:08:30,400
Speaker 4: do together that won't break the bank? She lives in

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01:08:30,439 --> 01:08:34,479
Speaker 4: New England. If that helps, thanks so much, Morgan. So

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01:08:34,560 --> 01:08:37,400
Speaker 4: Morgan is saying, first of all, she's best friends with

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Speaker 4: a seventy five year old.

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01:08:39,600 --> 01:08:42,280
Speaker 3: Is also her mom an active woman. Yeah, the whole

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01:08:42,280 --> 01:08:45,960
Speaker 3: situation is pretty pathetic. It sounds like she doesn't have

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01:08:45,960 --> 01:08:46,760
Speaker 3: any cash.

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01:08:47,520 --> 01:08:51,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, Morgan's strapped for cash and the mom figure is

1417
01:08:51,760 --> 01:08:53,559
Speaker 4: kind of making her feel less than.

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01:08:53,880 --> 01:08:56,160
Speaker 3: So Mommy's got a lot of money and Morgan doesn't.

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01:08:56,280 --> 01:08:59,480
Speaker 3: And Mommy's got one foot out the door already. Basically,

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01:09:00,040 --> 01:09:04,479
Speaker 3: I'm thinking, take mommy's kayak habit, let's go whitewater kayaking.

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01:09:04,960 --> 01:09:08,719
Speaker 3: Mommy has an accident. Morgan, Now you've got some cash.

1422
01:09:09,800 --> 01:09:13,400
Speaker 4: Killing your best friend is never a bad idea, never

1423
01:09:13,439 --> 01:09:16,439
Speaker 4: a bad idea. I mean, I think that Morgan seventy

1424
01:09:16,479 --> 01:09:18,320
Speaker 4: five is kind of a milestone. It's one of these things.

1425
01:09:18,360 --> 01:09:19,719
Speaker 4: It's almost a miles.

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01:09:19,880 --> 01:09:22,759
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a big one. But if you die, it's okay.

1427
01:09:23,200 --> 01:09:26,080
Speaker 3: If but it's sad, but like you know, it's you've reached.

1428
01:09:26,200 --> 01:09:27,640
Speaker 3: You've reached like the safe point in the.

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01:09:27,640 --> 01:09:30,640
Speaker 4: Game seventy five. Yeah, you like for it to not

1430
01:09:30,680 --> 01:09:32,759
Speaker 4: be sad anymore. You've got to get into your nineties.

1431
01:09:32,880 --> 01:09:34,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, oh oh oh is that true?

1432
01:09:34,360 --> 01:09:34,559
Speaker 2: Now?

1433
01:09:34,800 --> 01:09:37,320
Speaker 3: I would think so. I fear the burden like when

1434
01:09:37,400 --> 01:09:41,040
Speaker 3: you're when you're like old old, and like I feel

1435
01:09:41,080 --> 01:09:43,960
Speaker 3: bad for like old women in horror movies. Now there's

1436
01:09:44,200 --> 01:09:46,559
Speaker 3: there's at least like five movies I've seen where there's

1437
01:09:46,600 --> 01:09:49,320
Speaker 3: just like a naked old woman and right, and the

1438
01:09:49,360 --> 01:09:53,040
Speaker 3: point of it is like disgusting. That's so unfair. I

1439
01:09:53,080 --> 01:09:56,960
Speaker 3: feel so bad. I just saw one like yesterday, what

1440
01:09:57,040 --> 01:10:02,759
Speaker 3: was it, x or Per that had like Jenna Ortega

1441
01:10:02,840 --> 01:10:04,960
Speaker 3: and like me a goth or something, but like the

1442
01:10:05,000 --> 01:10:09,400
Speaker 3: whole point of it was like this disgusting old You're

1443
01:10:09,400 --> 01:10:12,960
Speaker 3: making such a good point, Barbarian, Yes, the Witch, all

1444
01:10:13,040 --> 01:10:15,439
Speaker 3: that stuff there's always just like an old naked lady

1445
01:10:15,800 --> 01:10:17,920
Speaker 3: and like she did, she's she's an old actor, Like

1446
01:10:18,840 --> 01:10:21,760
Speaker 3: where are our disgusting grandpa? She's in the makeup chair

1447
01:10:21,840 --> 01:10:25,280
Speaker 3: for eight hours, like doing the mystique works.

1448
01:10:25,800 --> 01:10:28,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's so, I mean that is such a good point. Yeah,

1449
01:10:28,439 --> 01:10:31,080
Speaker 4: you I mean have just dismantled modern horror in a

1450
01:10:31,160 --> 01:10:36,880
Speaker 4: huge way that elevated horror. They should all be ashamed.

1451
01:10:37,000 --> 01:10:37,599
Speaker 3: Yeah, they should.

1452
01:10:38,160 --> 01:10:39,559
Speaker 4: That's truly shameful.

1453
01:10:39,600 --> 01:10:39,920
Speaker 3: Morgan.

1454
01:10:39,960 --> 01:10:42,280
Speaker 4: You've really opened a door here that you didn't expect

1455
01:10:42,280 --> 01:10:46,400
Speaker 4: to but kill your mother. Yes, it's time, Morgan. I

1456
01:10:46,439 --> 01:10:51,000
Speaker 4: mean I think for seventy five whitewater kayaking seems dangerous.

1457
01:10:51,479 --> 01:10:53,519
Speaker 4: Maybe you build up to that though, though you do,

1458
01:10:54,040 --> 01:10:56,360
Speaker 4: you know, like a nice day of golf and yoga,

1459
01:10:57,680 --> 01:11:00,599
Speaker 4: then like we're doing our treat day and then we're

1460
01:11:00,600 --> 01:11:01,520
Speaker 4: gonna go kayaking.

1461
01:11:01,800 --> 01:11:04,240
Speaker 3: But here's the thing. Golf is like a social activity

1462
01:11:04,240 --> 01:11:06,880
Speaker 3: that's gonna give her mom a lot of chances to

1463
01:11:06,920 --> 01:11:07,719
Speaker 3: make little quips.

1464
01:11:07,760 --> 01:11:11,320
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, and you know, Caddy, let's just be honest.

1465
01:11:11,240 --> 01:11:16,160
Speaker 3: Little remarks finances. Maybe the people she'd like, that's uh,

1466
01:11:16,600 --> 01:11:18,720
Speaker 3: I think you're opening She hadn't told us anything about

1467
01:11:18,760 --> 01:11:19,080
Speaker 3: her mom.

1468
01:11:19,439 --> 01:11:22,040
Speaker 4: But I will say to counter that, Morgan, she's on

1469
01:11:22,120 --> 01:11:26,280
Speaker 4: the golf course. Mom's being so mean to her. She's

1470
01:11:26,520 --> 01:11:29,240
Speaker 4: she's building up the feeling of wanting, because when she

1471
01:11:29,320 --> 01:11:31,639
Speaker 4: kills her, she'll have she won't question it for a moment.

1472
01:11:31,800 --> 01:11:32,479
Speaker 3: Yes, a rage.

1473
01:11:32,600 --> 01:11:35,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, she'll be boiling at that point.

1474
01:11:35,360 --> 01:11:37,760
Speaker 3: That's so true. Like if you're taking someone out onto

1475
01:11:37,800 --> 01:11:40,639
Speaker 3: the river to kill, you've got hours of guilt. You've

1476
01:11:40,640 --> 01:11:42,400
Speaker 3: got hours of like, am I actually gonna do it

1477
01:11:42,479 --> 01:11:44,880
Speaker 3: or not? Like oh you know, you you shake. But

1478
01:11:44,960 --> 01:11:49,000
Speaker 3: if you let her just prick and prick and prick

1479
01:11:49,120 --> 01:11:50,920
Speaker 3: and prick, then you can just it's a crime of

1480
01:11:51,000 --> 01:11:51,519
Speaker 3: pass right.

1481
01:11:51,560 --> 01:11:53,360
Speaker 4: No matter how much fun you have in that kayak,

1482
01:11:53,400 --> 01:11:55,720
Speaker 4: you'll be mad. You will be mad at her, and

1483
01:11:55,760 --> 01:11:57,880
Speaker 4: you won't be able to forgive her. And then she

1484
01:11:58,000 --> 01:12:01,360
Speaker 4: drowns or gets dashed against a rock or something, and

1485
01:12:01,400 --> 01:12:05,320
Speaker 4: then all of your problems are completely solved more. I'm

1486
01:12:05,360 --> 01:12:09,000
Speaker 4: so glad, Morgan wrote in New England is kind of

1487
01:12:09,040 --> 01:12:10,720
Speaker 4: a vague description.

1488
01:12:10,800 --> 01:12:12,160
Speaker 3: We don't quite know where she's living.

1489
01:12:12,280 --> 01:12:16,600
Speaker 4: It's Maine, it's Massachusetts, it's what else qualifies as New England, Vermont.

1490
01:12:16,520 --> 01:12:19,519
Speaker 3: Yeah, Rhode Island, that area. I just don't like that

1491
01:12:19,560 --> 01:12:22,200
Speaker 3: area of the world very much. Oh interesting, I love Well,

1492
01:12:22,240 --> 01:12:25,440
Speaker 3: that's unfair, that's unfair. I think I just feel insecure

1493
01:12:25,479 --> 01:12:26,759
Speaker 3: around those college gifts.

1494
01:12:27,320 --> 01:12:29,960
Speaker 4: I mean, if you're spending all your just kind of

1495
01:12:30,520 --> 01:12:31,799
Speaker 4: wandering around Harvard.

1496
01:12:33,040 --> 01:12:35,879
Speaker 3: But you know, the leaves, the fall leave, that is beautiful.

1497
01:12:35,960 --> 01:12:36,120
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1498
01:12:36,160 --> 01:12:39,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, the national parks are great, Akadia and Maine. Hiking

1499
01:12:39,320 --> 01:12:39,760
Speaker 3: around the.

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01:12:39,720 --> 01:12:43,559
Speaker 4: Leaves, maple syrup, all kinds of things. You've got to visit.

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01:12:43,600 --> 01:12:47,240
Speaker 4: This is This podcast is sponsored by New England. Visit

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01:12:47,320 --> 01:12:52,280
Speaker 4: New England today. Okay, we answered two questions perfectly. We've

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Speaker 4: given each other gifts that we'll hold on to for well,

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Speaker 4: I'm going to use these to kind of help myself

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Speaker 4: get ready for public viewing.

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Speaker 3: I will remove my black heads three at a time,

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Speaker 3: raw all over my face, eyebrows.

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Speaker 4: I'm so happy you could return, Jeff.

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Speaker 3: This was a delight. I didn't know I was the

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Speaker 3: first returning guest. I'm like, now I'm like a staple

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Speaker 3: of the show.

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Speaker 4: Or a friend of the show, the first friend of

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Speaker 4: the show. We don't have a lot of friends on

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Speaker 4: the show, mostly enemies. We're making a lot of enemies,

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Speaker 4: so for someone to return is a rare thing, and

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Speaker 4: the listener's thrilled. I'm thrilled on a lease was uneasy,

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Speaker 4: nervous the whole time, nervous the whole time. But thank

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Speaker 4: you for being here.

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Speaker 3: Thank you so much.

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Speaker 4: And listener, we've come to the end of the podcast.

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Speaker 4: I mean, you've lived through history. What a day you're having.

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Speaker 4: Hopefully this energizes you to do something I don't know, whatever,

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Speaker 4: you do something with your life, something with your life,

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Speaker 4: you touch a little pig.

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Speaker 5: Ah.

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Speaker 4: This is the end of the podcast. Move on, I love.

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Speaker 3: You, goodbye.

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Speaker 4: I said, No Gifts is an exactly right production. It's

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Speaker 4: produced by our dear friend Annalise Nelson, and it's beautifully

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Speaker 4: mixed by Leona Squilatchi. And we couldn't do it without

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Speaker 4: our guest booker Patrick Kottner. The theme song, of course,

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Speaker 4: could only come from miracle worker Amy Mann. You must

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Speaker 4: follow the show on Instagram at I said no Gifts,

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Speaker 4: I don't want to hear any excuses. That's where you

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Speaker 4: get to see pictures of all these gorgeous gifts I'm getting.

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Speaker 4: And don't you want to see pictures of the gifts?

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Speaker 3: The I invit? Did you hear.

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Speaker 1: Funa man, myself perfectly clear. When you're a guest, Tom,

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Speaker 1: you gotta come to me empty. And I said, no gifts.

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Speaker 2: Presence is presents enough. I already had too much stuff.

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Speaker 2: So how do you dare to surbey me?