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Speaker 1: and after the cook out, some of her friends were

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Speaker 1: decided not to. She was going to go back to

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Speaker 1: the student housing at Georgetown University. She had an internship,

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Speaker 1: very very intelligent young woman. Witnesses told police that they

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Speaker 1: saw a man following her and that was the last

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Speaker 1: time that anyone seen her alive before she was brutally murdered.

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Speaker 1: She was raped, and she was beat to death Nancy

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Speaker 1: with a seventy three pound rock. Her body was found

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Speaker 1: in a wooded area alongside the road, so she was blushing,

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Speaker 1: dim with dead with a seventy three pound rock. You

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Speaker 1: are correct. I'm taking a look at her photo, Christine

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Speaker 1: Mercillon right now, it's at crime online dot com, and

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Speaker 1: she's just gorgeous. She's got her whole life in front

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Speaker 1: of her. Now I'm looking at the rock and it's

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Speaker 1: covered in her blood. Ashley Willcott, It's such a brutal

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Speaker 1: and such an elementary murder to just pick up a

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Speaker 1: it's it's such a brutal way to do it, and

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Speaker 1: there's no empathy, there's no compassion. It's a crime of

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Speaker 1: opportunity and they pick up and do whatever they can

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Speaker 1: with that rock. But it also to me indicates such

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Speaker 1: an extreme amount of rage, hatred, all of the emotions

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Speaker 1: And this girl with everything before her biochemist, a congressional fellow,

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Speaker 1: walking home from a friend's to cook out and murdered.

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Speaker 1: I mean leavi Page. Georgetown is one of the most

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Speaker 1: desirable areas in DC, and the local news there when

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Speaker 1: this happened in the late nineties were interviewing people and

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Speaker 1: they didn't expect this to happen there because it is

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Speaker 1: a very sought after place to live in the DC

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Speaker 1: metro area. In DC. You know, it took more recent

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Speaker 1: developments in technology and the advent of public genealogy services

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Speaker 1: to crack this case. Explain how it was crack, Cloyd Steiger. Well,

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Speaker 1: they recovered DNA. I imagine they had rape kids and

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Speaker 1: is they have to take raw DNA and reprocess in

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Speaker 1: what's called SNP or snap DNA, which is a different

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Speaker 1: FDRs WITH'SINCODAS, so they're not compatible. And that's what all

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Speaker 1: these genealogy services use. And so they run it through.

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Speaker 1: They're looking for certain markers and they can go they

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Speaker 1: score each marker and they have to have like a

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Speaker 1: who are likely distant cousins and to get as close

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Speaker 1: three or four possibles, and then it's up to the

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Speaker 1: police to go either voluntary assets for people for a

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Speaker 1: with konus. Doctor Bethany Marshall, do you believe that this

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Speaker 1: is his only murder victim? Why or why not? I

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Speaker 1: he seems to have all the markings of a serial killer.

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Speaker 1: He puts an enormous amount of energy into his activities.

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Speaker 1: He spends hours looking for victims. He seems to have

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Speaker 1: a certain type young women who are out jogging, walking,

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Speaker 1: the things we know about serial killers, Nancy, is that

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Speaker 1: they can pop up and then go underground for months

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Speaker 1: of the reasons this happens is that they have prolific

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Speaker 1: fantasy lives, so they can often satisfy themselves with their

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Speaker 1: of a sudden it breaks over into the urge to kill. Also, Nancy, briefly,

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Speaker 1: that rock, a seventy three pound rock covered with blood. Usually,

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Speaker 1: when you ask me about the emma of the perpetrator,

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Speaker 1: I have all kinds of thoughts. But all I could

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Speaker 1: and put the towel over her head and then bludgeoned her.

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Speaker 1: And I cannot imagine what a brutal scene that was

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Speaker 1: LEVI Page. These rapes and martyr occurred over years of time,

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Speaker 1: how many years do we know he was at work

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Speaker 1: So first victim was in nineteen ninety one and the

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Speaker 1: last victim was in nineteen ninety nine, the young woman

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Speaker 1: So about ten years. I have a strong reason to

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Speaker 1: suspect DNA's going to link him to other rapes and murders.

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Speaker 1: Ashley Wilcot with a DNA evidence stacking up against him

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Speaker 1: was the worst that can happen to him for rapes

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Speaker 1: and murders in DC, it is going to be life

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Speaker 1: without paroles. So most states allow capital punishment. However, the

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Speaker 1: District of Columbia is one state that specifically does not.

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Speaker 1: As of nineteen seventy two. We wait as justice unfolds.

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Speaker 1: Nancy Grace signing off goodbye friend,