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Speaker 1: The volume. This week on Prime Cutch Chad Millman, Sharper Square,

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Speaker 1: John Middlkoff on Brandon Staley's big flaw Are the Lions

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Speaker 1: legit NFC contenders and my top takes of the week

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Speaker 1: Jim Harbaugh and he's done this in his entire career,

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Speaker 1: will send messages and I know he burns hot. I

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Speaker 1: know he's not perfect. I know he wears people out.

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Speaker 1: I have said, everybody speeds on the four or five

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Speaker 1: in a maserati taunting law enforcement. Did Michigan go over

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Speaker 1: the top? Appear so? But you can't convince me a

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Speaker 1: nineteen ninety four rule that none of you knew is

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Speaker 1: suddenly embezzlement and forfeit wins and fire the coach. The

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Speaker 1: other thing that jumped out to me is find me

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Speaker 1: the great college football coaches that have been and pristine.

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Speaker 1: Want to go back and look at some of the

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Speaker 1: methods of Bear Bryant or Barry Switzer or would he

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Speaker 1: Hayes Jimmy Johnson was polarizing Blunkeye fans, Urban Meyer, really

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Speaker 1: great coach Nick Saban. They wear people out, they're tough.

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Speaker 1: I mean Pete Carroll one of the great college football coaches.

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Speaker 1: Ever when he left there was all sorts of NCUBA

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Speaker 1: issues around the program. So I'm not looking for pristine Okay.

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Speaker 1: In the NFL, coaches have to deal with wacko, impulsive,

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Speaker 1: deal with needy donors Los Angeles phone book, thick, nc

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Speaker 1: Kids are emotional, They come from all different backgrounds. I

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Speaker 1: think Jim Harball, you see his coaches crying on the

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Speaker 1: sideline in riches. Coaches in which is players elevates young

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Speaker 1: people's lives, and I think that's such an important part

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Speaker 1: of college football, coaching, basketball, men's, women's, whatever, it is

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Speaker 1: enriching their lives. But if you're looking for pristine, wrong business.

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Speaker 1: Our churches aren't pristine, Okay. Wall Street's not, Silicon Valley's not.

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Speaker 1: College sports is not a lot of handouts, Folks. For

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Speaker 1: years and years they were paying players. Now they are

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Speaker 1: legally right. That's why it's so balanced now because not

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Speaker 1: just the SEC is paying players. The idea that Jim

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Speaker 1: Harbaugh is the bad guy in all this, all of

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Speaker 1: The Big Ten sees itself as like, you know, either

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Speaker 1: tradition filled universities, Penn State, Michigan, Ohio State, Wisconsin. But

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Speaker 1: it's really become a two team conference. Penn State doesn't

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Speaker 1: And I think Big Ten fans think by adding Michigan, Washington, Oregon, USCUCLA,

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Speaker 1: Oregon have as good at coaches as maybe they've ever had,

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Speaker 1: and they are Ohio State. You're adding two Ohio states

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Speaker 1: to the conference. I don't think Big Ten fans get this.

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Speaker 1: Every time Washington has had an elite coach, Don James

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Speaker 1: they lost on like a sixteen to seventeen game winning

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Speaker 1: perfect time for Jim Harbaugh exit if he wins a

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Speaker 1: it our way, that Michigan football, power football, regardless of

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Speaker 1: I think Peyton was in charge of fix the culture,

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Speaker 3: That's what separated Belichick for twenty years. His players always

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Speaker 3: And you watch Brandon Staley like are players intimidated by

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Speaker 1: told you, you know, if you think about that, that's like, well,

425
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Speaker 1: hell if GoF had mobility, maybe like a top eight quarterback.

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Speaker 2: Right.

427
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Speaker 1: So I watched Stroud and I'm just like, I'm sold.

428
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Speaker 1: I mean today was just like that last drive. It's like, man,

429
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Speaker 1: I am sold on him.

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Speaker 3: Well, you and I have been talking about it all

431
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Speaker 3: season long. The separating factor what makes guys have success

432
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Speaker 3: that are drafted high or not their ability to layer

433
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Speaker 3: those throws. It's not the Brett faarv seventy yard on

434
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Speaker 3: a rope, you know, into double coverage. Most guys can't

435
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Speaker 3: do that. Can you layer the throw over an underneath

436
00:23:41,280 --> 00:23:43,800
Speaker 3: the fender, whether it's a corner or a linebacker, and

437
00:23:43,840 --> 00:23:45,640
Speaker 3: then a safety behind him and put it in there.

438
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Speaker 3: And a lot of guys can't. Most guys can't, and

439
00:23:47,760 --> 00:23:50,399
Speaker 3: most guys can't consistently do it. This guy does it

440
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Speaker 3: with the East and let's face it with a Thursday

441
00:23:53,240 --> 00:23:57,760
Speaker 3: night game with Bryce on display. And this when I

442
00:23:57,880 --> 00:24:00,359
Speaker 3: got out of football and went to radio, started to

443
00:24:00,359 --> 00:24:02,879
Speaker 3: go into a lot of baseball games and basketball games.

444
00:24:03,480 --> 00:24:05,960
Speaker 2: And I knew this being so many NFL games, but.

445
00:24:05,960 --> 00:24:09,399
Speaker 3: The importance of size in pro sports, that the outliers

446
00:24:09,440 --> 00:24:12,080
Speaker 3: of small guys is so small, like Steph Curry is

447
00:24:12,080 --> 00:24:14,359
Speaker 3: considered a small guy. Steph Curry six's four and now

448
00:24:14,359 --> 00:24:17,560
Speaker 3: he's jacked, but he's not that small. He's not Isaiah Thomas.

449
00:24:17,600 --> 00:24:19,120
Speaker 3: You know, he's not as small as you think.

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Speaker 1: Listen, I'm I'm I'm six to two. I'd be like

451
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Speaker 1: the fifth tallest president in the history of the country.

452
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Speaker 1: And I've been around Steph Curry twice. He's bigger than

453
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Speaker 1: me and fifteen pounds heavier.

454
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Speaker 3: I remember going to Giants baseball games seeing Hunter Pence

455
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Speaker 3: and Madison Bumber on the size of these guys. And

456
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Speaker 3: you see Bryce Young I just don't see how that's

457
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Speaker 3: gonna work. He is so small, that's one thing to

458
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Speaker 3: be Kyler Murray small, but he's two hundred and twenty

459
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Speaker 3: pounds and he's faster than every guy on the field,

460
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Speaker 3: so he has things that he can hang his hat on.

461
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Speaker 2: Even today, I'm watching some of his highlights.

462
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Speaker 3: I don't know if he's one hundred percent, but he's

463
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Speaker 3: still faster than every one in the Atlanta Falcons. Bryce

464
00:24:55,840 --> 00:24:57,840
Speaker 3: is not that fast, doesn't have a great arm anyways,

465
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Speaker 3: one hundred and seventy pounds, and when von Hargrave or

466
00:25:01,680 --> 00:25:04,280
Speaker 3: some of these defensive linemen fall on you, there's no

467
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Speaker 3: way to just get back up. You watch DJ Straud,

468
00:25:06,080 --> 00:25:09,440
Speaker 3: He's big, he can move, and throwing is the easiest

469
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Speaker 3: part of this game. It just comes like, I don't

470
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Speaker 3: even think it's that debatable. I'm not trying to We're

471
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Speaker 3: only in November. The Texans wouldn't even pick up their

472
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Speaker 3: phone call if they try to do a trade, And

473
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Speaker 3: how would Carolina not have a redo on that?

474
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Speaker 2: And is that just David Temper forcing it?

475
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Speaker 3: Because I'd say the Houston Texans, who also really like

476
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Speaker 3: Bryce Young, sometimes you need a little luck.

477
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Speaker 2: Hell, the Chargers would have taken to a he's on

478
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Speaker 2: your team, that's all that matters. They should be.

479
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Speaker 3: Doing cartwheels that this guy, the way it all played out,

480
00:25:36,720 --> 00:25:39,960
Speaker 3: fell to them, because I don't see any chance Bryce

481
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Speaker 3: Young could be like a.

482
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Speaker 2: Quarter of as good as this guy. Well.

483
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Speaker 1: And also, Ohio State has a history. Think how great

484
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Speaker 1: Ohio State football's had and they've never had a great

485
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Speaker 1: NFL quarterback. And part of that is because Ohio State,

486
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Speaker 1: outside of Michigan, has significantly better talent than everybody in

487
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Speaker 1: their conference. Alabama's great even during their run, LSU, Georgia stacked,

488
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Speaker 1: Texas and m didn't have the coach stacked Ohio State

489
00:26:04,520 --> 00:26:07,560
Speaker 1: faces one game a year and they out recruit historically

490
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Speaker 1: Michigan that they're even so c J. Stroud five star

491
00:26:11,480 --> 00:26:15,479
Speaker 1: tackle a lot of time, five star receivers, heartline recruits

492
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Speaker 1: better than anybody in the country at wide receiver. So

493
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Speaker 1: there's a reason Ohio State it's not USC similar Matt Lioner,

494
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Speaker 1: it barely got touched in college. There is a reason

495
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Speaker 1: it's not really living an NFL experience.

496
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Speaker 2: So c J.

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Speaker 1: Stroud, My thing was, these Ohio State quarterbacks are talented,

498
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Speaker 1: but God, they all put up gigantic numbers, but his

499
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Speaker 1: accuracy is just today he had a coup and now

500
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Speaker 1: it helps Demiko Ryan's great coach, Tank Dell. Holy moly,

501
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Speaker 1: is that pick what?

502
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Speaker 2: So like?

503
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Speaker 1: Sometimes you need he's got juice? Bryce Young has no

504
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Speaker 1: juice Bryce Young. Herbstreet said the other day, he goes,

505
00:26:53,640 --> 00:26:56,840
Speaker 1: they ran one offense, they're transitioning to another, and they

506
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Speaker 1: have none of the players, so it's going to be

507
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Speaker 1: really ugly. Some of this for Houston is they had

508
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Speaker 1: a very good offseason. They sign in free agency, if

509
00:27:03,920 --> 00:27:06,879
Speaker 1: you remember John, some B level players, and I remember

510
00:27:06,920 --> 00:27:10,080
Speaker 1: saying on FS one, I was like, they're having a quietly.

511
00:27:11,040 --> 00:27:14,879
Speaker 1: They picked up about six seven rotational starters, you know,

512
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Speaker 1: guys that will play. So then you head on Tank Dell.

513
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Speaker 1: So I will say CJ's got a little better talent

514
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Speaker 1: that I think. I think Houston's pretty got some juice,

515
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Speaker 1: don't you think a little bit?

516
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Speaker 2: For sure?

517
00:27:26,440 --> 00:27:29,040
Speaker 3: They've drafted, Well, they're gonna have a ton of money.

518
00:27:29,200 --> 00:27:31,520
Speaker 3: You know, the Cowboys never have any cash base to

519
00:27:31,560 --> 00:27:34,160
Speaker 3: sign free agents because Jerry's always overpaying his own guys.

520
00:27:34,359 --> 00:27:35,879
Speaker 2: If they ever did, people would love to go to

521
00:27:35,920 --> 00:27:38,040
Speaker 2: Texas in no state income text Houston.

522
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Speaker 3: Now, if they can take advantage of these next couple

523
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Speaker 3: of years, could have a chance to kind of load

524
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Speaker 3: up that make some bold trades. They got some picks

525
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Speaker 3: from the Deshaun Watson's thing still coming in, they'd have

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Speaker 3: a chance.

527
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Speaker 2: They got a star coach. I heard what Herbstreet said.

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Speaker 3: The only thing I would disagree because I don't disagree

529
00:27:53,400 --> 00:27:55,440
Speaker 3: that their offense looks terrible and their lack of talent,

530
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Speaker 3: but there is a physical characteristic attribute thing at the

531
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Speaker 3: highest level of pro sports that you go.

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Speaker 2: It's gonna be difficult for them.

533
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Speaker 3: So even if they get the right offense, they upgrade

534
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Speaker 3: an offensive coordinator, how they fire Frank and get a

535
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Speaker 3: better coach?

536
00:28:09,680 --> 00:28:12,080
Speaker 2: When does that what it looks like to all of us,

537
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Speaker 2: how miniscule the guy is gonna work? Yea, even if

538
00:28:15,359 --> 00:28:18,720
Speaker 2: c J. Strowd hadn't been this good, his body type,

539
00:28:18,800 --> 00:28:20,600
Speaker 2: his movement, we've seen that before.

540
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Speaker 3: Well seen anything like Bryce before coming out of Alabama.

541
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Speaker 3: I'm not trying to act like I'm some genius. I

542
00:28:26,720 --> 00:28:28,919
Speaker 3: thought he was sweet, but it ain't working and it

543
00:28:28,920 --> 00:28:30,640
Speaker 3: doesn't even look like it has a chance.

544
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Speaker 1: To listen, fran Tarkenton was small but nobody drafted small

545
00:28:34,840 --> 00:28:37,520
Speaker 1: guys after Fran. It's more of a copycat league now,

546
00:28:37,800 --> 00:28:40,360
Speaker 1: like that was just a unique player Georgia Fran Tarkenton

547
00:28:40,440 --> 00:28:43,120
Speaker 1: ran around, but there wasn't like seven eight guys drafted

548
00:28:43,120 --> 00:28:45,440
Speaker 1: after it. It was six four six ' five guys

549
00:28:45,440 --> 00:28:47,240
Speaker 1: that could throw the ball down the field did not move.

550
00:28:48,600 --> 00:28:52,200
Speaker 1: The truth is Russell Wilson got Johnny Manziel drafted, Baker drafted,

551
00:28:52,400 --> 00:28:55,320
Speaker 1: Kyler drafted. He got a lot of these guys drafted,

552
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Speaker 1: and we've watched I think fairly. Even though Russell over

553
00:28:58,520 --> 00:29:01,480
Speaker 1: the last three weeks has been better because they've established

554
00:29:01,480 --> 00:29:04,600
Speaker 1: a run game under Payton, he's lost his juice. It's

555
00:29:04,640 --> 00:29:06,320
Speaker 1: just it's just the bottom line is when you're that

556
00:29:06,400 --> 00:29:08,880
Speaker 1: small in this league, it doesn't take as many hits.

557
00:29:09,120 --> 00:29:14,680
Speaker 1: Christ I saw Cam Newton Ben age thirty three, You're like, whoa,

558
00:29:14,800 --> 00:29:16,959
Speaker 1: that doesn't look anything like it than at twenty nine.

559
00:29:17,280 --> 00:29:19,600
Speaker 1: So it's like Ben got old fast, Cam got old fast.

560
00:29:19,640 --> 00:29:22,000
Speaker 1: Josh Allen's got about three more years of this. Yeah,

561
00:29:22,040 --> 00:29:25,160
Speaker 1: and he's he's for sure and he's six six, two sixty.

562
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Speaker 1: So I do think with Bryce and your point on

563
00:29:28,920 --> 00:29:31,680
Speaker 1: Kyler is right. Kyle, for the record, Kyler's been banged

564
00:29:31,720 --> 00:29:33,760
Speaker 1: up several times. Kyler did not want to run in

565
00:29:33,760 --> 00:29:37,040
Speaker 1: the playoff game, like you know, five ten guys don't

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Speaker 1: want to run. Sharper Square. Chad Millman, CEEO Action Network.

567
00:29:41,960 --> 00:29:46,080
Speaker 1: I actually this week love the lines and I love

568
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Speaker 1: dogs everywhere. This week I'm going I'm going value shopping

569
00:29:51,320 --> 00:29:53,880
Speaker 1: because I've been heavy on the favorites for about a month.

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00:29:54,160 --> 00:29:56,040
Speaker 1: It's done me. Okay, you ready to go.

571
00:29:56,760 --> 00:29:59,440
Speaker 4: I'm ready, brother, let me hear what you're selling.

572
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Speaker 1: I don't like the line as much now, but Chicago

573
00:30:03,160 --> 00:30:05,600
Speaker 1: plus seven and a half at Detroit Lions off a

574
00:30:05,600 --> 00:30:09,240
Speaker 1: big win. Justin Fields is capable of big plays. Detroit

575
00:30:09,320 --> 00:30:11,440
Speaker 1: gives up a lot of them. Lost in that win

576
00:30:12,080 --> 00:30:14,240
Speaker 1: is that the Chargers marched up and down the field

577
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Speaker 1: and then five straight touchdowns at the end, and often

578
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Speaker 1: very quickly. I would love it. At nine and a half,

579
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Speaker 1: I thought it was the second best line of the week.

580
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Speaker 1: But at seven and a half, I would take the bear.

581
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Speaker 1: Sharper Square, totally sharp.

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Speaker 4: Look, you're still getting more than a touchdown. The line

583
00:30:29,920 --> 00:30:34,400
Speaker 4: was at ten on Tuesday, went to nine, went to

584
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Speaker 4: eight and a half, went to eight. Woke up Thursday morning,

585
00:30:38,520 --> 00:30:41,080
Speaker 4: forty eight hours later, it's at seven and a half.

586
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Speaker 4: A couple things going on here. One when it was

587
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Speaker 4: at ten. A load of inflation. And what I mean

588
00:30:46,680 --> 00:30:50,560
Speaker 4: is the Lions are now a public team. People want

589
00:30:50,600 --> 00:30:52,880
Speaker 4: to bet them. People who don't know anything about football

590
00:30:53,200 --> 00:30:54,680
Speaker 4: want to bet on the Lions the same way they

591
00:30:54,760 --> 00:30:56,200
Speaker 4: used to want to bet in the Patriots, the same

592
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Speaker 4: way they used to want to bet on the Packers,

593
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Speaker 4: the same way they still want to bet on the Cowboys. Right,

594
00:31:00,560 --> 00:31:02,680
Speaker 4: So there was inflation. That's why the wise guys came

595
00:31:02,720 --> 00:31:04,240
Speaker 4: in and took the ten, and took the nine, and

596
00:31:04,280 --> 00:31:05,880
Speaker 4: took the eight, and now it's down to seven and

597
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Speaker 4: a half. That's number one. Number two. Divisional matchups. Divisional

598
00:31:09,600 --> 00:31:15,320
Speaker 4: matchups favor the road team. They favor the underdog. So

599
00:31:15,360 --> 00:31:19,320
Speaker 4: when you get that, then diagram, you want to bet

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Speaker 4: the road underdog. It's a lot of divisional matchups this week.

601
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Speaker 4: This is when the wise guys spoted right away.

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Speaker 1: This, I'm gonna throw my theory at you. I like

603
00:31:28,680 --> 00:31:30,880
Speaker 1: the Vikings plus two and a half at Denver. Denver,

604
00:31:30,960 --> 00:31:33,640
Speaker 1: you always talk about lucky. That was the luckiest win

605
00:31:33,680 --> 00:31:37,240
Speaker 1: in the league this year. Twelve man multiple fumbles, three

606
00:31:37,320 --> 00:31:40,600
Speaker 1: drop passes. I mean, how many time did the Broncos

607
00:31:40,600 --> 00:31:42,720
Speaker 1: get a drive starting at the fifty and not give

608
00:31:42,760 --> 00:31:46,840
Speaker 1: me points? Meanwhile, Buffalo was a bit unlucky twelfth man

609
00:31:46,880 --> 00:31:51,720
Speaker 1: among them. Minnesota, I think a lot of people think, hey,

610
00:31:52,400 --> 00:31:55,160
Speaker 1: it's a cute story. Well it's more than that. Josh

611
00:31:55,160 --> 00:31:58,640
Speaker 1: Dobbs is effective, he's accurate, justin Jefferson could come back.

612
00:31:58,800 --> 00:32:01,440
Speaker 1: They have an excellent offensive coach. I like their personal

613
00:32:01,520 --> 00:32:05,040
Speaker 1: A lot two and a half is too much, I think.

614
00:32:05,080 --> 00:32:08,800
Speaker 1: I think Minnesota is a real team. The Josh job thing.

615
00:32:09,080 --> 00:32:12,360
Speaker 1: He's more mobile now than Russell. He's accurate. They have

616
00:32:12,480 --> 00:32:15,440
Speaker 1: better weapons too. I know the numbers telling me to

617
00:32:15,480 --> 00:32:18,280
Speaker 1: bet Denver. I'm gonna take Minnesota plus two and a

618
00:32:18,320 --> 00:32:20,520
Speaker 1: half sharper square square.

619
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Speaker 4: The wise guys are taking Denver, the public is taking Minnesota.

620
00:32:26,280 --> 00:32:28,600
Speaker 4: You can see this by what's called the reverse line move.

621
00:32:28,640 --> 00:32:32,480
Speaker 4: You see all the bets coming in on Minnesota. He

622
00:32:32,600 --> 00:32:36,240
Speaker 4: yet the line continues to go up. It's gone from

623
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Speaker 4: one to one and a half before the Buffalo game,

624
00:32:38,920 --> 00:32:41,040
Speaker 4: is at one and a half after the game. It

625
00:32:41,240 --> 00:32:43,720
Speaker 4: only went up to two. Because bookmakers are trying to

626
00:32:43,720 --> 00:32:46,480
Speaker 4: figure out which way is the public and which way

627
00:32:46,560 --> 00:32:48,880
Speaker 4: the wise guy's going to go. With two teams that

628
00:32:48,920 --> 00:32:53,160
Speaker 4: are winning in surprising ways. The public came in on Minnesota,

629
00:32:54,000 --> 00:32:55,800
Speaker 4: the wise guys came in on Denver. So what you're

630
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Speaker 4: saying about Josh Jobs is totally accurate. But look at

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Speaker 4: what Denver has done. Denver has won three games in

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Speaker 4: a row. After that devastating loss to the Chiefs on

633
00:33:07,320 --> 00:33:09,920
Speaker 4: a Thursday night, Russell Wilson had fewer than one hundred

634
00:33:10,000 --> 00:33:12,880
Speaker 4: yards passing. He had two picks. That was following up

635
00:33:12,880 --> 00:33:14,560
Speaker 4: a week in which they lost to the Jets, in

636
00:33:14,600 --> 00:33:17,920
Speaker 4: which the game was clinched by Russell Wilson scrambling and

637
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Speaker 4: then forcing his own fumble by knocking the ball out

638
00:33:21,120 --> 00:33:23,280
Speaker 4: of his hand with his own leg and the Jets

639
00:33:23,280 --> 00:33:24,840
Speaker 4: pick it up and run it back for a touchdown.

640
00:33:25,840 --> 00:33:29,400
Speaker 4: Since then, they've completely retooled, not just this defense, which

641
00:33:29,400 --> 00:33:32,600
Speaker 4: has been considerably better, but Russell Wilson. In this offense.

642
00:33:33,000 --> 00:33:35,920
Speaker 4: They get him into a position to make a decision faster.

643
00:33:36,040 --> 00:33:39,160
Speaker 4: They were snapping the ball with ten seconds or less

644
00:33:39,160 --> 00:33:41,760
Speaker 4: too often. Now they're not doing that. Even saw it

645
00:33:41,800 --> 00:33:45,600
Speaker 4: last week against the Bills. They weren't game changing plays,

646
00:33:45,680 --> 00:33:49,600
Speaker 4: except they were plays that didn't cause Denver to lose

647
00:33:49,800 --> 00:33:52,560
Speaker 4: yardage and lose momentum. It was a simple pass under

648
00:33:52,560 --> 00:33:55,920
Speaker 4: the first quarter. Russell Wilson second and one looks down

649
00:33:55,960 --> 00:33:58,640
Speaker 4: the field instead of scrambling, instead of trying to find

650
00:33:58,640 --> 00:34:01,760
Speaker 4: someone deep, he just dumps it off right first down.

651
00:34:01,960 --> 00:34:05,320
Speaker 4: Very next play, pass rush is coming up both sides,

652
00:34:05,640 --> 00:34:08,400
Speaker 4: the middle of the field opens, Russell Wilson doesn't hesitate,

653
00:34:08,600 --> 00:34:11,960
Speaker 4: sprints for ten yards. Russell Wilson has eighteen touchdown passes,

654
00:34:12,400 --> 00:34:16,280
Speaker 4: second in the league behind Tua. Four interceptions, second fewest,

655
00:34:16,920 --> 00:34:22,600
Speaker 4: seventh best rated passer against the rush according to PFF.

656
00:34:24,000 --> 00:34:25,160
Speaker 4: They're a better team right now.

657
00:34:25,480 --> 00:34:27,759
Speaker 1: Okay, there's a line, and it happens maybe twice a

658
00:34:27,840 --> 00:34:32,719
Speaker 1: year that I do not get. And my instinct is

659
00:34:32,800 --> 00:34:35,680
Speaker 1: Vegas knows something I don't, and this is the first

660
00:34:35,680 --> 00:34:40,160
Speaker 1: one this year. The Bills minus seven against the Jets

661
00:34:40,200 --> 00:34:45,960
Speaker 1: seems outrageous. Vegas knows. I'm taking Buffalo minus seven. That

662
00:34:46,040 --> 00:34:49,880
Speaker 1: line makes no sense. The Jets are an awful, awful

663
00:34:50,320 --> 00:34:53,359
Speaker 1: third down team. They can't move the chains. Buffalo is

664
00:34:53,400 --> 00:34:57,880
Speaker 1: incredibly unlucky between drops and penalties against Denver. They were

665
00:34:57,920 --> 00:35:01,240
Speaker 1: the better team. This line, I thought I guess Lions

666
00:35:01,239 --> 00:35:04,840
Speaker 1: before they come out. I'm like three. I'm like seven

667
00:35:06,080 --> 00:35:11,440
Speaker 1: Buffalo fires, a coach inspired. Everybody's backs against the wall.

668
00:35:11,640 --> 00:35:14,720
Speaker 1: The country's bailed on them, the cities on their ass.

669
00:35:15,040 --> 00:35:18,640
Speaker 1: I'm taking Buffalo minus seven here sharper square.

670
00:35:19,000 --> 00:35:21,239
Speaker 4: So in the same way that CJ. Stroud might be

671
00:35:21,760 --> 00:35:24,799
Speaker 4: a bit of a cheat code, Zach Wilson is the

672
00:35:24,840 --> 00:35:28,600
Speaker 4: opposite in every way. Whise guys want to take the

673
00:35:28,680 --> 00:35:32,719
Speaker 4: Jets in this spot, a much much better defense, a

674
00:35:32,960 --> 00:35:36,880
Speaker 4: team in the Bills that is fading. They are now

675
00:35:37,640 --> 00:35:39,719
Speaker 4: not even They're not even in plus money to make

676
00:35:39,760 --> 00:35:41,920
Speaker 4: their minus money to make the playoffs. They're not favorites

677
00:35:41,960 --> 00:35:46,880
Speaker 4: to make the playoffs anymore. They're in a real struggle spot.

678
00:35:47,239 --> 00:35:50,560
Speaker 4: Except nobody wants to back Zach Wilson. They just can't

679
00:35:50,640 --> 00:35:55,360
Speaker 4: find it within themselves to back this quarterback at this number,

680
00:35:55,480 --> 00:36:00,880
Speaker 4: no matter how big it is. Meanwhile, Josh Allen historically

681
00:36:01,680 --> 00:36:05,120
Speaker 4: in this spot at home, when Josh Allen wins, he

682
00:36:05,200 --> 00:36:08,080
Speaker 4: covers that isn't the story this year, right, It's been

683
00:36:08,120 --> 00:36:11,279
Speaker 4: a lot more of a struggle. There's zero consensus on

684
00:36:11,320 --> 00:36:13,080
Speaker 4: this colin Like, you're not going to find any wise

685
00:36:13,080 --> 00:36:14,959
Speaker 4: guy who's like, oh my god, I love Josh Allen

686
00:36:15,000 --> 00:36:17,239
Speaker 4: at minus seven. There are games where they do like

687
00:36:17,320 --> 00:36:20,480
Speaker 4: big favorites. This week, you're on your own on this one.

688
00:36:20,520 --> 00:36:23,440
Speaker 4: There's nobody who's like, yeah, I got it, there's value

689
00:36:23,480 --> 00:36:26,040
Speaker 4: on this one. Don't forget whise. Guys like to bet

690
00:36:26,080 --> 00:36:28,480
Speaker 4: where they think they have an edge. They do not

691
00:36:28,680 --> 00:36:32,800
Speaker 4: have an on the field edge against this number.

692
00:36:33,680 --> 00:36:36,640
Speaker 1: Finally, Eagles plus three at the Chiefs. Jalen Hurts has

693
00:36:36,680 --> 00:36:40,120
Speaker 1: beaten twelve straight winning teams. This is weird. I never

694
00:36:40,200 --> 00:36:43,239
Speaker 1: do this. I think Philly blows them out. I think

695
00:36:43,280 --> 00:36:46,160
Speaker 1: Philly blows out Kansas City. I think it's one of

696
00:36:46,200 --> 00:36:51,320
Speaker 1: those games that makes for great sports talk radio on Tuesday.

697
00:36:52,200 --> 00:36:55,000
Speaker 1: I'm going to take Philly like thirty three twenty six.

698
00:36:55,120 --> 00:36:58,600
Speaker 1: Thirty three twenty three physically pushes them around Sharper Square.

699
00:37:00,080 --> 00:37:04,600
Speaker 4: Dude, this is the scariest game on the board. I

700
00:37:04,640 --> 00:37:08,479
Speaker 4: have bet the Eagles my first instinct on this game.

701
00:37:08,520 --> 00:37:11,040
Speaker 4: Me and Simon Hunter, both professional better Simon Hunter are

702
00:37:11,040 --> 00:37:14,560
Speaker 4: the coast of my podcast with me. We looked at

703
00:37:14,560 --> 00:37:17,520
Speaker 4: this game and we're like, the Eagles are the better team, right, Like,

704
00:37:17,840 --> 00:37:19,759
Speaker 4: every single way you look at it, they are the

705
00:37:19,760 --> 00:37:23,440
Speaker 4: better team, and we bet the Eagles. We've heard some

706
00:37:23,480 --> 00:37:26,320
Speaker 4: wise guys coming in on the Eagles. But what's scary

707
00:37:26,680 --> 00:37:34,280
Speaker 4: is Patrick Mahomes. This isn't hyperbole. Virtually unbeatable in November December,

708
00:37:34,920 --> 00:37:39,560
Speaker 4: virtually unbeatable as a favorite of three or less. Andy

709
00:37:39,640 --> 00:37:44,480
Speaker 4: Reid great off the buy like we're talking about. We're

710
00:37:44,480 --> 00:37:50,200
Speaker 4: talking about bucking incredibly strong historical trends. You and I

711
00:37:50,239 --> 00:37:52,520
Speaker 4: can make an executive decision on this. I'm with you.

712
00:37:52,800 --> 00:37:55,600
Speaker 4: I think the Eagles are going to cover, but we're

713
00:37:55,600 --> 00:37:57,840
Speaker 4: not going to find a ton of support from the

714
00:37:57,880 --> 00:38:01,120
Speaker 4: betting community that is consensus on this. There are games

715
00:38:01,120 --> 00:38:03,560
Speaker 4: where we're going to get consensus. They same one of them.

716
00:38:04,000 --> 00:38:06,600
Speaker 1: Okay, give me as you know. There's a game I

717
00:38:06,719 --> 00:38:09,160
Speaker 1: thought about I want you to talk me into and

718
00:38:09,200 --> 00:38:11,440
Speaker 1: then pull one or two out that I didn't think of.

719
00:38:12,200 --> 00:38:18,400
Speaker 1: So the number was smaller earlier. But I think Miami

720
00:38:18,440 --> 00:38:21,520
Speaker 1: could destroy the Raiders. I think it could be absolutely

721
00:38:22,320 --> 00:38:24,439
Speaker 1: one of the ugly games of the year. Last week

722
00:38:24,480 --> 00:38:26,880
Speaker 1: I took Dallas over the Giants. I felt great about it.

723
00:38:26,920 --> 00:38:29,640
Speaker 1: That thing was over in eight minutes. I think Miami's

724
00:38:29,640 --> 00:38:31,880
Speaker 1: going to win by three touchdowns over the Raiders. The

725
00:38:31,960 --> 00:38:35,319
Speaker 1: numbers now like minus thirteen and a half. I would

726
00:38:35,400 --> 00:38:38,480
Speaker 1: take the huge favorite Sharper square one hundred percent.

727
00:38:39,160 --> 00:38:42,320
Speaker 4: That's that's the play. The reason this number's gone from

728
00:38:42,840 --> 00:38:46,239
Speaker 4: eleven and a half to twelve, to twelve and a

729
00:38:46,280 --> 00:38:48,080
Speaker 4: half to thirteen to thirteen and a half in the

730
00:38:48,120 --> 00:38:51,360
Speaker 4: past forty eight hours. West guys are piling on. They're

731
00:38:51,400 --> 00:38:54,000
Speaker 4: not looking at the Raiders, going too and oh with

732
00:38:54,040 --> 00:38:58,239
Speaker 4: Antonio Pearson eight in O'Connell and thinking, oh, yeah, they

733
00:38:58,280 --> 00:39:01,680
Speaker 4: got a shot. When the Dolphins play bad teams, they

734
00:39:01,719 --> 00:39:04,520
Speaker 4: blow them out. When they play good teams, they lose.

735
00:39:04,800 --> 00:39:06,919
Speaker 4: That's just their mo right now. Maybe one day they'll

736
00:39:06,960 --> 00:39:09,440
Speaker 4: get better. Maybe one day they'll be competitive with more

737
00:39:10,040 --> 00:39:13,719
Speaker 4: higher caliber teams. But they blow out bad teams. Look

738
00:39:13,760 --> 00:39:15,880
Speaker 4: at that Carolina and Gain. Remember it, Carolina was up

739
00:39:15,920 --> 00:39:18,440
Speaker 4: by fourteen. You're like, oh my god, they got a

740
00:39:18,440 --> 00:39:21,000
Speaker 4: shot before halftime. It was thirty five fourteen.

741
00:39:21,040 --> 00:39:23,160
Speaker 1: All right, Melman, that's pretty good. Could to see you're

742
00:39:23,160 --> 00:39:24,920
Speaker 1: back from ducial door for wherever you were at, it

743
00:39:24,960 --> 00:39:26,440
Speaker 1: was very Listen.

744
00:39:27,239 --> 00:39:29,799
Speaker 4: It was Copenhagen. You love Copenhagen.

745
00:39:29,840 --> 00:39:32,160
Speaker 1: You want to move there, Hagen.

746
00:39:32,480 --> 00:39:35,879
Speaker 4: Copin, thank you for correcting me. Yeah, you know what

747
00:39:37,360 --> 00:39:39,680
Speaker 4: you got, content, you got class.

748
00:39:41,600 --> 00:39:43,600
Speaker 1: I don't know about that, all right, buddy

749
00:39:43,920 --> 00:39:46,640
Speaker 4: I see later the volume