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Speaker 1: Are they about to go out of business? Josh Hammer

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Speaker 1: breaks down a busy day and the court's all that

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Speaker 1: We have such a huge show tonight about twenty twenty

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Speaker 1: all kinds of things, but let's get with something awesome.

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Speaker 1: Let's start with something awesome. After all, it's Monday. You

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Speaker 1: really see things coming apart for Joe Biden, don't you.

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Speaker 2: It's really really going badly for Joe Biden.

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Speaker 1: And we'll get to why that's making me a little

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Speaker 1: this as a news story out NBC News. NBC News

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Speaker 1: one of the top propaganda arms of the American Communist

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Speaker 1: They're out there talking about Joe Biden behind the scenes,

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Speaker 1: quote seething about his reelection chances. He's angry, he's anxious.

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Speaker 1: Joe Biden is in deep trouble, and that should put

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Speaker 1: the kind of trouble Joe Biden's in. There's a good

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Speaker 2: You know, it's one thing to.

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Speaker 1: What to do, one thing to fall into a raging river,

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Speaker 1: let's say some whitewater rapids, only you've got a life

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Speaker 1: and you go into the white water rapids, well you're

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Speaker 1: probably in very deep trouble. You see, Joe Biden doesn't

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Speaker 1: He's surrounded by committed communists who hate America, trying to

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Speaker 1: Now, when they explain how this normally works, I know

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Speaker 1: Joe Biden has internal problems within his own party, within

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Speaker 2: And I really genuinely mean that.

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Speaker 5: It's curious to me to see you talk the way

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Speaker 5: But that's another subject. When he came to the Congress

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Speaker 1: You didn't just say it. All the big cheese Democrats

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Speaker 1: potential bad news. Same bad news. Let's get to the

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Speaker 1: potential bad news. You know that the system itself is evil.

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Speaker 1: Our institutions have been taken over by evil people.

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Speaker 2: You realize that now.

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Speaker 1: You understand even your CDC is run by evil people.

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Speaker 1: We have videotape of it. When did you get to

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Speaker 5: He's going to exact a bloodbath? There's something wrong here.

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Speaker 3: Hey, what I heard was the continuation of the same rhetoric,

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Speaker 8: So no, we did not miss the full context. This

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Speaker 1: That's why your liberal and Peggy seems insane. She is insane.

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Speaker 1: What that's gonna mean for twenty twenty four. I don't know.

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Speaker 2: We'll see all.

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Speaker 1: That may have made you uncomfortable, but I am right.

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Speaker 1: Lawfair makes me uncomfortable. We're going to discuss some lawfair

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Speaker 1: talk about loan star transfer. Let's talk about the timeshare.

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Speaker 1: You think you're stuck in. You are not, but you

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Speaker 7: All right, all right, we'll be back, Justice Jackson.

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Speaker 9: So, my biggest concern is that your view has the

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Speaker 9: First Amendment hamstringing the government in significant ways in the

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Speaker 9: Because you've got the First Amendment operating in an environment

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Speaker 10: alongside Josh Hawley. Eric Schmidt back when he was Missouri

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Speaker 10: September twenty twenty two, right around Labor Day and Jesse.

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Speaker 10: It was explosive stuff. I wrote multiple columns on it

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Speaker 10: federal government passing a law to simply say you shall

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Speaker 10: not speak now. But the word in fringe actually, and

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Speaker 10: the concept of legally infringing more generally actually has a

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Speaker 10: lot more wiggle room in it than that the government

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Speaker 10: has absolutely unequivocally infringed upon many many individuals free speech

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Speaker 10: rights over the course of this terrible, terrible experiment in

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Speaker 10: corporate and public sector fusion, which is what we've seen.

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Speaker 10: There was a remarkable opinion from District Court Judge Terry

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Speaker 10: Dody down in Louisiana last July, fittingly was on July fourth.

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Speaker 10: That's fittingly because it was a beautiful pro First Amendment,

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Speaker 10: pro free speech, pro red white and Blue Americana type

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Speaker 10: of opinion where he basically said that this is one

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Speaker 10: of the most Orwellian or Whellian attempts for the government

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Speaker 10: to mass censor speech in the entire history of this republic.

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Speaker 10: And his preliminary injunction was modified a little bit, but

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Speaker 10: it was largely upheld at the US Quarter Appeals for

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Speaker 10: the Fifth Circuit, which is the conservative leading appell at

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Speaker 10: court that many years ago I clerked on myself, so

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Speaker 10: I based on my reading of the Tea Leaves Jesse.

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Speaker 10: This oral argument today did not go as well as

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Speaker 10: folks like me had hoped it would.

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Speaker 1: I'm hoping to be proven wrong.

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Speaker 10: When it comes time to release an opinion, I have

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Speaker 10: to shout out to a friend of mine, Ben Aguanagua.

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Speaker 10: He is the new Slister General of Louisiana. He got

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Speaker 10: into that post just in January. An absolutely brilliant conservative attorney.

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Speaker 10: He apparently did a great job today in court. The

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Speaker 10: problem is that none of the conservative justices other than

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Speaker 10: Clarence Thomas and Samuel Lito seemed to be buying it.

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Speaker 10: That is their problem, That is their fault, because Louisiana

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Speaker 10: and Missouri are correct to file suit on these grounds.

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Speaker 1: Okay, can you walk me through that, Josh? And I

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Speaker 1: know I'm asking you to put yourself mentally in someone

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Speaker 1: else's shoes, But you have these supposed you know, conservative

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Speaker 1: or right wing justices or originalists like or such, and

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Speaker 1: Henry Cony Barrett and others. How are they not all

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Speaker 1: over this too? How is anybody outside of an absolute

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Speaker 1: apparatic not horrified by the federal government using social media

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Speaker 1: the censor speech they don't like? What are the others doing?

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Speaker 7: So?

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Speaker 10: Here is why lawyers tend to make things more complicated

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Speaker 10: than they are.

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Speaker 2: So.

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Speaker 10: The relevant legal doctrine that is at issue here is

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Speaker 10: state actor doctrine. And the basic question is when does

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Speaker 10: a private company's actions or a private company's speech become

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Speaker 10: the government become the government speech or the government's action.

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Speaker 10: So in this case, the point that you're making, the

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Speaker 10: point that I just made, in the point that Louisiana,

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Speaker 10: Missouri made, is that these social media companies Facebook, Twitter

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Speaker 10: became government actors when the federal government told them what

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Speaker 10: to do, when the federal government said you really ought

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Speaker 10: to do this, or a wink wink, nudge nudge, we're

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Speaker 10: going to take away your Section two thirty liability, or

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Speaker 10: you're you really should do this, or a wink wink,

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Speaker 10: nudge nudge, we're going to probably break you up on

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Speaker 10: good old fashioned Teddy Roosevelt trust busting antitrust grounds. And

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Speaker 10: those threats were very real. They were shouting from the

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Speaker 10: from the White House. The White House Buying ad Ministry

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Speaker 10: and Public Health team was openly threatening Facebook, Twitter, all

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Speaker 10: the above. Heck, I remember it was a summer of

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Speaker 10: twenty twenty one. I remember when Jen Saki, the current

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Speaker 10: Idiot's predecessor. I remember when she was up there openly

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Speaker 10: hectoring and threatening Mark Zuckerberg and wagging her big finger

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Speaker 10: and saying, oh, Facebook, you better censor these vaccine skeptics

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Speaker 10: because we're trying to get all of America vaccinated. How

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Speaker 10: dare you pedal misinformation. You know, if your Facebook, you

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Speaker 10: look at that and you're like, Wow, the government's telling

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Speaker 10: me what to do.

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Speaker 1: Right.

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Speaker 10: But for many, I think libertarian leaning juris in particular,

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Speaker 10: and Neil Gorsuch is a good example of this. He's

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Speaker 10: a much more libertarian leaning guy than for example, Sam

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Speaker 10: Alito is. He is reluctant to find state actor doctrine

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Speaker 10: for kind of the old school notion that he wants

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Speaker 10: to maximize private sector speech. It's kind of this idea

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Speaker 10: that the best way to defeat Facebook and Twitter if

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Speaker 10: you don't like what they're doing is to build your

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Speaker 10: own Facebook, build your own Twitter, build your own Google.

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Speaker 10: As we've heard the line say many many times over

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Speaker 10: the past five years. There so a lot of more

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Speaker 10: establishment than libertarian leaning jurors are very reluctant to find

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Speaker 10: state actor doctrine where it is only debatable. Clarence Thomas

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Speaker 10: and Sam Alito because their star wart conservatives have no

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Speaker 10: such compunctions. But one final thing Jesse on this note

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Speaker 10: is worth pointing out that it is black letter First

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Speaker 10: Amendment constitutional law, and it has been black letter constitutional

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Speaker 10: law for fifty or sixty years that the government cannot immunize,

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Speaker 10: cannot immunize or otherwise induce private sector entities to do

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Speaker 10: that which the government cannot do directly itself. The government

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Speaker 10: cannot censor speech itself. What they are doing here is

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Speaker 10: trying to immunize them by saying, oh, you can keep

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Speaker 10: your Session two thirty immunity if you do our dirty bidding.

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Speaker 10: You can't do that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, let's switch gears here. Adam Schiff is

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Speaker 1: all over the news, as he always is, about to

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Speaker 1: be Senator Adam Schiff going off about the Trump Community case.

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Speaker 11: Here he was, the Supreme Court moved with great speed

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Speaker 11: when it came to ruling that Trump could appear on

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Speaker 11: the ballot. The question is, will it also move with

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Speaker 11: great speed in rejecting this bogus immunity claim. If it doesn't,

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Speaker 11: it's making a deliberate decision essentially to push the trial

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Speaker 11: past the election. And I think that would be a

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Speaker 11: terrible decision both for the interests of justice.

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Speaker 2: It would be a terrible.

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Speaker 11: Decision in depriving American voters of the information they would

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Speaker 11: learn during the course of that trial. But it would

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Speaker 11: also just further discredit this partisan and reactionary court.

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Speaker 1: Josh Okay, setting Adam Shift's more on mouthside, where do

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Speaker 1: you think we follow this immunity case?

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Speaker 10: So let me make one point though, about the point

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Speaker 10: that Ship is making, which is the idea that the

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Speaker 10: Supreme Court is going to hand the election to Trump Jesse.

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Speaker 10: Jack Smith had a long time to file charges, didn't he.

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Speaker 10: And he waited until June of last year to file

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Speaker 10: his case in mar Lago in Florida, and then even

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Speaker 10: later in the summer of last year to file his

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Speaker 10: case in Washington, d C. Why did he wait until

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Speaker 10: the year prior to an election year. He could have

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Speaker 10: easily filed those us we want two in twenty twenty

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Speaker 10: one or twenty twenty two. So if there is anyone

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Speaker 10: to blame, if the federal prosecutions do not get up

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Speaker 10: and running before November, which as of this point I

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Speaker 10: don't think they will, the blame goes to Jack Smith himself. Now,

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Speaker 10: Adam Shiff's not going to admit that, because Adam Shiffs

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Speaker 10: is a deranged Looan bag. But if he was being

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Speaker 10: intellectually honest, if you had a modicum of intellectual honesty

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Speaker 10: left in his body, then he would look squarely at

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Speaker 10: Jack Smith in place the blame with him. As far

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Speaker 10: as the community question, which is going to have this

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Speaker 10: huge hearing, big argument, I'm very much excited for myself

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Speaker 10: at the Supreme Court in a little over a month now.

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Speaker 10: I don't think that Trump's lawyers are going to get

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Speaker 10: what they want and get absolute, full sweeping immunity. You

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Speaker 10: maybe maybe have two or three votes for that at

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Speaker 10: the most. I actually could see it not getting a

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Speaker 10: single vote, but I got the very most. You have

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Speaker 10: three votes for that. Thomas Alido and maybe Brekkavanov is

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Speaker 10: a very pro presidential powers kind of juris. I think

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Speaker 10: what's most likely here, Jesse, You're going to get a

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Speaker 10: mixed result where they basically say that some actions that

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Speaker 10: a president takes in the White House do fall under

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Speaker 10: the quote executive power of which Article two of the

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Speaker 10: Constitution speaks, and those actions you are immune for criminal prosecution.

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Speaker 10: But then there are some actions that are not immune.

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Speaker 10: And to give like a very easy example, let's say

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Speaker 10: that you fire a bureaucrat, you fire a subordinate somewhere,

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Speaker 10: a deep state guy deep in the bowels of DHS

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Speaker 10: or whatever. That is a core executive power function to

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Speaker 10: run your administration the way you want any possible criminal

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Speaker 10: liability for something that pertains to that action would be

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Speaker 10: it would be done. You have immunity, but if you

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Speaker 10: want to hire an assassin to kill to kill your

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Speaker 10: mistress before your wife finds out, maybe then you can

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Speaker 10: be subch into immunity after you leave office. So I

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Speaker 10: think that the opinion is going to look something along

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Speaker 10: those lines. So I'm predicting a mixed result, which, by

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Speaker 10: the way, is actually in reality a pretty good result

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Speaker 10: for Trump because then they're going to have to kick

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Speaker 10: that down to the lower courts for additional fact finding

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Speaker 10: to see whether or not Jacksmith's alleged conduct and this

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Speaker 10: indictment falls into bucket one of immune conduct or bucket

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Speaker 10: two of not immune conduct. All of this is going

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Speaker 10: to take a lot of time and kick the can

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Speaker 10: down the road again. It's looking very unlikely that this

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Speaker 10: trial starts before November.

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Speaker 2: Oh, that's outstanding, all right.

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Speaker 1: Finally, Georgia, Josh, we got a major update in the

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Speaker 1: Georgia case last week.

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Speaker 2: What's going on?

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Speaker 1: Is this whole thing going away just because can't Fanny

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Speaker 1: Willis can't keep your pants on?

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Speaker 10: Well, look, it wasn't quite the ruling that Trump was

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Speaker 10: hoping for. It wasn't quite the ruling that I expected.

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Speaker 10: I actually expected that he would go ahead and disqualify

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Speaker 10: Fannie Willis, So it wasn't exactly what I predicted. Now,

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Speaker 10: what Judge McAfee crafted is a bespoken, somewhat bizarre remedy.

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Speaker 10: He basically accepted a lot of Trump's lawyer's arguments. So

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Speaker 10: Trump's lawyers basically argue that the mere appearance of impropriety

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Speaker 10: or corruption can either require or a bare minimum strongly

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Speaker 10: militate in favor of disqualification of the district Attorney Fannie Willis.

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Speaker 10: McAfee basically agreed with that, and then he said, oh,

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Speaker 10: but wait, you know, disqualification is also a very strong remedy.

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Speaker 10: Why don't I try to concoct this thing to make

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Speaker 10: everyone happy? And that was his attempt. That's splitting the baby,

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Speaker 10: so to speak, saying that one of you has to go.

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Speaker 1: It's very weird.

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Speaker 10: I doubt he learned that in his remedies class in

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Speaker 10: law school. He's really just trying to kind of throw

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Speaker 10: breadcrumbs to everyone and make everyone happy. The problem, Jesse,

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Speaker 10: as you know, is that when you try to make

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Speaker 10: everyone happy, you actually make no one happy Trump's lawyers

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Speaker 10: are going to be able to appeal this, I think,

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Speaker 10: to the Georgia State Corp of Appeals. So it's still

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Speaker 10: possible that fani Willis actually does get to qualified from

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Speaker 10: this case. But recall that this case was never going

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Speaker 10: to start until August. This was always going to be

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Speaker 10: the last of the of the case is to go

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Speaker 10: to trial based on the date that they set many

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Speaker 10: months ago. So again, all these further dilatory attack, all

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Speaker 10: these further delays. I think that the Georgia case is

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Speaker 10: also very unlikely to reach a verdict before November. Slightly

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Speaker 10: slightly more likely than Jack Smith's DC probe at this point,

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Speaker 10: but I still think it's unlikely.

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Speaker 1: Okay, so he's out of the woods legally before the election.

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Speaker 10: The only one at this point that I think has

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Speaker 10: called a forty to fifty percent chance of reaching a verdict,

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Speaker 10: maybe saidly higher, and that would be Alvin Bragg's case

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Speaker 10: in New York City. It's basically a coin flip at

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Speaker 10: this point, I think, but it's it's close. I mean,

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Speaker 10: that is the only one I think that has any

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Speaker 10: real viability of getting across the financial line. Of course,

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Speaker 10: the silver lining there for Trump is that that is

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Speaker 10: just by far the most ludicrous of all four of these,

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Speaker 10: you know, fraudulent bookkeeping and further of something we don't

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Speaker 10: even know. Alvin Bragg never told us what the actual

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Speaker 10: crime is. We think it's campaign election law. But then

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Speaker 10: you have Michael Cohen, Stormy Daniel's hush money. I mean,

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Speaker 10: it's like a Hollywood script. It's like a soap opera. Frankly, so,

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Speaker 10: I mean that's the one where I think Trump might

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Speaker 10: might get a guilty verdict. But again, I don't think

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Speaker 10: the American people are going to particularly care even if

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Speaker 10: it comes back.

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Speaker 2: Then when.

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Speaker 1: Josh, thank you, my brother, I appreciate it. All right,

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Speaker 1: let's talk about divorce, national divorce. It's always fun. We'll

659
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Speaker 1: just do it real quick. Next before we do that,

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Speaker 1: let's do this though, Let's make sure we're making preparations,

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Speaker 1: financial preparations. People look around and it's easy to get worried.

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Speaker 1: Maybe that's you. Maybe you get anxious. Maybe you get worried.

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Speaker 1: We wake up every day, we roll over, we grab

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Speaker 1: our phones, we look at the news, and everything sucks.

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Speaker 1: We don't need to be worried, we don't need to

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Speaker 1: be stressed. We need to make plans. We need to

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Speaker 1: make preparations. Part of that preparation is making sure you

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Speaker 1: have access to precious metals gold or silver coins. Well,

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Speaker 1: how do you do that? What do you do? It's

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Speaker 1: called Oxford Gold Group. They are my people. They make

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Speaker 1: it easy. They mail it to your front door. It's

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Speaker 1: all anonymous and all insured.

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Speaker 2: Don't worry.

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Speaker 1: Your neighbors aren't going to know you have a new

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Speaker 1: shipment of silver coins. You don't need a bank vault.

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Speaker 1: This is so normal. People can have value government can't touch.

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Speaker 1: Call Oxford Gold Group. Also, let them get it in

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Speaker 1: your retirement as part of your retirement, insulating you against

679
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Speaker 1: that bubble going pop and.

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Speaker 2: You lose everything you worked hard for.

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Speaker 1: Eight three three nine gold Tell them I told you

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Speaker 1: to call Oxford Gold Group.

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Speaker 2: All right, we'll be back. All right.

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Speaker 1: We're not gonna spend a lot of time on this.

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Speaker 1: I'm just gonna once again bring up the fact that

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Speaker 1: we are already divorcing.

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Speaker 2: As a nation.

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Speaker 1: And I don't celebrate that, contrary to what people think,

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Speaker 1: I don't celebrate that. I don't think this is great.

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Speaker 1: I don't think it's a good place to be as

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Speaker 1: a country. To watch people separate like this is hard,

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Speaker 1: it's ugly. And to be part of that, right, you're

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Speaker 1: part of that. I'm part of that. We are part

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Speaker 1: of the America. The story of your life, part of

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Speaker 1: the story of your life will be you lived in America.

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Speaker 1: As it was starting to kind of fracture on us.

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Speaker 1: But look, as much as I dislike it, let's be honest,

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Speaker 1: it's something that should happen sometimes sometimes it's better if

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Speaker 1: we go our separate ways. And you see this video.

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Speaker 1: Charlne Oliver is her name. She's a state senator in Tennessee.

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Speaker 1: Who she is doesn't really matter, but you and me,

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Speaker 1: we can't live with people like this.

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Speaker 12: It is a slap in the face. And you might

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Speaker 12: as well stomp on the grave of Tyree Nichols for

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Speaker 12: bringing this bill. Don't tell me this stuff ain't racist.

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Speaker 12: Don't tell me it's not. It is rooted in racism.

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Speaker 12: This was a Jim Crow bill that Taylor Brock and

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Speaker 12: all his Confederates voted for today. So yeah, we gonna fight.

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Speaker 12: Doctor King said, the the riots are the language you

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Speaker 12: have doneheard. You ain't saying nothing yet. If you keep silent,

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Speaker 12: silencing us like this, what do you think our district

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Speaker 12: is gonna do. We have had it up here, gloves off,

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Speaker 12: like we gonna fight like hell, you don't expect us

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Speaker 12: to respond.

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Speaker 2: We can't live together.

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Speaker 1: And doctor King said this is racist. My arm is

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Speaker 1: gonna start burning crep down. We can't can't live like this,

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Speaker 1: and we shouldn't. All right, we have more do a

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Speaker 1: real quick hit about this planet. Fitness stuff for in

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Speaker 1: a moment, and we have a light in the mood

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Speaker 1: that's outstanding. Before we do any of that, let's do this.

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Speaker 1: Let's talk about your self defense. Maybe you live in

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Speaker 1: that Ladies District in Tennessee or wherever you live in

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Speaker 1: this country. You need things to protect yourself. There are

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Speaker 1: violent criminals all over the place, and now we're importing

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Speaker 1: more by the million. That doesn't mean we have to

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Speaker 1: stay home. We can't stay home and stay locked in

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Speaker 1: our doors. We can't live our lives this way. We

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Speaker 1: have to carry something on us that will allow us

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Speaker 1: to stop a bad man.

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Speaker 2: That's what BURNA is all about.

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Speaker 1: Be why RNA. This is a non lethal pistol launcher.

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Speaker 1: I carry lethal and non lethal on me at all times.

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Speaker 1: Whether you're a gun carrier like me or not. You

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Speaker 1: need Berna. Berna will stop a badman. Pepper balls or

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Speaker 1: tear gas balls or kinetic rounds save your life, the

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Speaker 1: life of your daughter, the life of your dad. Buy

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Speaker 1: one and carry it on you. And by the way,

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Speaker 1: practicing is a blast. Ten percent off at Berna dot

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Speaker 1: com slash Jesse Berna dot com slash Jesse Go check

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Speaker 1: these guys out.

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Speaker 2: We'll be back.

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Speaker 13: Good day. I just wanted to say, I just came

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Speaker 13: out of Planet Fitness and there is a man shaving

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Speaker 13: in a women's bathroom. I came in Monday. There's a

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Speaker 13: man in the women's locker room shaving. A little girl

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Speaker 13: sitting in the corner. She could have been twelve years old,

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Speaker 13: I don't know how old. She was in a towel,

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Speaker 13: kind of freaked out that there's a man shaving in

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Speaker 13: her locker room. Well, I was offended. I took a

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Speaker 13: picture of him and I asked him, why are you

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Speaker 13: there a man with a penis? Why are you in

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Speaker 13: the women's locker room? And he justified by saying I'm

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Speaker 13: queer LGB. And I said, you shouldn't be in the

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Speaker 13: women's locker room. Well, I left, and as I said,

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Speaker 13: this morning, I got canceled. Planet Fitness is defending the

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Speaker 13: man in the women's locker room, the man with a penis,

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Speaker 13: rather than the child sitting in the corner with towel

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Speaker 13: wrapped around her.

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Speaker 1: Okay, that's disgusting. Joining me now, Isabelle Brown, author of

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Speaker 1: the End of the Alphabet. Okay, Isabelle hold On. What

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Speaker 1: did Planet Fitness back off after all this? What exactly

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Speaker 1: is the fitness policy for dudes with penises in the

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Speaker 1: women's locker room? Jesse.

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Speaker 14: I wish I had an answer for that. If I did,

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Speaker 14: we'd probably live in a much simpler time in American

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Speaker 14: culture and politics. But the crazy part is this clip

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Speaker 14: is from a Planet Fitness in Alaska.

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Speaker 1: This wasn't happening.

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Speaker 14: In New York City or Los Angeles, or Seattle or

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Speaker 14: even Denver, where I grew up. This happened in Anchorage, Alaska.

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Speaker 14: So if you think that your hometown is immune to

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Speaker 14: this stuff, it's not. But we need more courageous people

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Speaker 14: like this woman speaking up and standing up for young girls,

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Speaker 14: which is really what this issue is all about when

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Speaker 14: you get to the crux of it, every single day

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Speaker 14: across America.

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Speaker 1: Okay, So it's just going to be another bud Light situation.

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Speaker 1: Are we just going to forget about this? What's going

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Speaker 1: on with Planet Fitness.

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Speaker 14: I'm hopeful that this changes so many people's tune, and

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Speaker 14: obviously it's been very successful when we've spoken up against

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Speaker 14: companies from bud Light to Target and Amazon and everybody

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Speaker 14: in between. But I think this actually speaks to a

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Speaker 14: much larger symptom happening in American culture, where this has

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Speaker 14: become the norm. No longer is it a radical fringe

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Speaker 14: idea for a grown man to be fully nude in

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Speaker 14: a locker room alongside of underage girls and even taking

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Speaker 14: photos and videos of themselves in the process. Sadly, the

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Speaker 14: more we've normalized or stayed silent about this, the more

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Speaker 14: it's become commonplace in American culture. So I'm incredibly excited

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Speaker 14: this week, for example, to see people like Riley Gains

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Speaker 14: suing the NCAA that something like this was allowed to

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Speaker 14: happen at the collegiate level, and I think legally is

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Speaker 14: where we need to start taking action to make sure

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Speaker 14: this doesn't happen in the future.

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Speaker 1: It's about how much of the younger generation of women

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Speaker 1: are horrified by this but silent, right I don't know

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Speaker 1: how to interpret the lack of noise I hear. I

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Speaker 1: realize some women are speaking up, like Riley Gaines, and

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Speaker 1: I applaud them, but it seems awfully quiet, and you

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Speaker 1: would think women would be outraged, But I don't see it.

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Speaker 14: I think you might be looking in the wrong places

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Speaker 14: and or maybe not engaging in the dialogue that's happening

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Speaker 14: on social media, namely on TikTok. You know, TikTok has

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Speaker 14: been under fire the last couple of weeks, particularly for

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Speaker 14: data security concerns. We can debate that all day long

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Speaker 14: in terms of if China is really being taken very

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Speaker 14: seriously by our Congress in terms of ptime American citizens.

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Speaker 14: But I see conversations like this one happening on TikTok

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Speaker 14: every day from women saying, you know, I used to

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Speaker 14: go along with this, but enough is enough. The same

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Speaker 14: has been said all week. I've seen thousands of videos

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Speaker 14: about Dylan Mulvaney's New Days of Girlhood music video and

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Speaker 14: how women everywhere across the political spectrum feel incredibly targeted,

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Speaker 14: made fun of, and wildly offended by what constitutes being

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Speaker 14: a woman today. So the tide is beginning to turn.

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Speaker 14: I think we're just starting to see it manifest on

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Speaker 14: cultural issues more so than in the political arena. But

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Speaker 14: as we know, politics comes downstream from culture, so the

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Speaker 14: pendulum will swing there too.

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Speaker 2: I'm guessing you don't.

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Speaker 1: You're not a big fan of a TikTok band through Congress.

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Speaker 14: I'm not, no, and been very outspoken about that.

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Speaker 1: It's about thank you so much, thank you? All right,

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Speaker 1: like the mood next, all right, it is time to

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Speaker 1: lighten the mood. You know. Golf is one of those things.

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Speaker 1: I've only ever been to one golf tournament ever, and

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Speaker 1: it was it was a business thing I had to

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Speaker 1: go to meet a bunch of guys there. But I'll

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Speaker 1: be honest with you, it seemed really fun it did.

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Speaker 1: It seemed like everyone was having a good time. Maybe

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Speaker 1: I should be that old guy who goes to more

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Speaker 1: golf tournaments. I don't know, though, after this video, I'm

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Speaker 1: not sure if.

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Speaker 2: I want to. Oh, I see them all

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Speaker 8: Five