WEBVTT - Bengals Booth Podcast: Don't Stop Me 0:00:03.680 --> 0:00:06.479 I get everybody. I'm Dan Horde and thanks for downloading 0:00:06.480 --> 0:00:11.480 The Bengals Booth Podcast. The don't stop me because I'm 0:00:11.520 --> 0:00:16.160 having a good time. I'm having a good time. Addition, 0:00:16.480 --> 0:00:19.160 as the Bengals look to grab sole possession of first 0:00:19.160 --> 0:00:21.919 place in the AFC North as they battle the Baltimore 0:00:22.000 --> 0:00:25.520 Ravens on Sunday at Paul Brown Stadium. Coming up, I'll 0:00:25.520 --> 0:00:28.400 talk to Peter King from NBC Sports about Joe Burrow, 0:00:28.520 --> 0:00:30.639 Zach Taylor and what the two of them are building 0:00:30.720 --> 0:00:34.440 in Cincinnati. One on one player interview is with Tyler Boyd, 0:00:34.479 --> 0:00:37.919 who is savoring the first December playoff chase of his 0:00:38.159 --> 0:00:41.760 NFL career. Dave Lapham joins me to discuss the Bengals 0:00:41.760 --> 0:00:45.000 injury situation and what it's going to take to sweep 0:00:45.040 --> 0:00:48.960 the regular season series from Baltimore. And finally, in our 0:00:49.000 --> 0:00:51.360 Know the Faux segment, we'll get the scoop on the 0:00:51.479 --> 0:00:56.080 Ravens from former Baltimore linebacker turned media member Brad Jackson. 0:00:56.520 --> 0:01:00.320 The Bengals Booth Podcast is presented by Ultimate Bengals, the 0:01:00.400 --> 0:01:04.479 free to play Next Level Fantasy Football game downloaded now 0:01:04.560 --> 0:01:07.080 from the App Store and Google Play, and here's a 0:01:07.160 --> 0:01:09.480 quick reminder that you can have the latest edition of 0:01:09.560 --> 0:01:13.200 this podcast delivered right to your phone, tablet, or computer 0:01:13.520 --> 0:01:17.679 by subscribing wherever you get your podcasts. It's the greatest 0:01:17.680 --> 0:01:22.840 thing since a gas fireplace. When we moved into our 0:01:22.880 --> 0:01:26.600 home in Cincinnati, the family room included a gas fireplace, 0:01:26.640 --> 0:01:30.640 and when the weather turns cold, it's fantastic. With a 0:01:30.720 --> 0:01:33.080 flick of a button, it heats the room up in 0:01:33.080 --> 0:01:36.800 a matter of minutes and looks great with orange yellow 0:01:36.840 --> 0:01:41.039 flames that dance around realistic looking logs. And that's with 0:01:41.200 --> 0:01:45.119 minimal clean up, no smoke, and no need for firewood. 0:01:45.720 --> 0:01:50.440 So here's to having a gas fireplace, especially when it 0:01:50.520 --> 0:01:54.280 comes with a house. Now let's get to this week's guests, 0:01:54.560 --> 0:01:57.800 beginning with a three time National Sportswriter of the Year 0:01:58.120 --> 0:02:01.080 who covered the Bengals for the Cincinnati The Inquirer in 0:02:01.120 --> 0:02:04.880 the nineteen eighties. One of the highlights of my week 0:02:04.960 --> 0:02:07.520 is sitting down on Monday morning with a big cup 0:02:07.520 --> 0:02:10.640 of coffee and Peter King's weekly labor of love, the 0:02:10.680 --> 0:02:13.960 Football Morning and America Column. And Peter, you were here 0:02:13.960 --> 0:02:16.360 in Cincinnati a couple of weeks ago for a firsthand 0:02:16.440 --> 0:02:19.200 look at the Bengals for their overtime loss against the 0:02:19.240 --> 0:02:21.200 forty nine ers. What were a couple of your biggest 0:02:21.240 --> 0:02:25.760 takeaways from seeing this team in person, Dan As, you know, 0:02:26.800 --> 0:02:29.399 as somebody who's around this team a lot and who 0:02:29.440 --> 0:02:35.440 lives in Cincinnati, there's a there is a natural skepticism 0:02:36.040 --> 0:02:41.600 about the Bengals anytime they get good. There was a skepticism, 0:02:42.200 --> 0:02:44.519 you know, when Kurs and Palmers started to play well 0:02:44.639 --> 0:02:48.840 early this century. There was a skepticism around Andy Dalton. 0:02:49.040 --> 0:02:52.440 But you know, they both played well, and they both 0:02:52.560 --> 0:02:58.120 really lifted this franchise to heights that they hadn't seen 0:02:58.160 --> 0:03:02.720 since the Boomer days. Really, and you know, I think 0:03:03.000 --> 0:03:07.000 I think there might be one different thing now with 0:03:07.480 --> 0:03:13.040 Joe Burrow and the Bengals, and that is that there's 0:03:13.200 --> 0:03:16.239 something about Burrow. You know, in my column a couple 0:03:16.320 --> 0:03:20.440 of weeks ago, I called the machine gun Burrow. I'd 0:03:20.520 --> 0:03:23.960 like to see Burrow of the fourth quarter against the 0:03:24.000 --> 0:03:29.440 forty nine ers for four quarters consistently, and he hasn't 0:03:29.480 --> 0:03:32.480 done that yet, but I think he will in time. 0:03:33.840 --> 0:03:38.640 But I think the Bengals have themselves a guy who's 0:03:38.640 --> 0:03:42.160 going to turn out to be a consistent top five, 0:03:42.320 --> 0:03:45.560 top ten quarterback in the NFL for years, as long 0:03:45.600 --> 0:03:48.600 as they can keep them healthy. And that was my 0:03:48.680 --> 0:03:51.880 one overwriting take. But the other real difference to me 0:03:52.040 --> 0:03:54.920 is that, you know, and I was talking to Mike 0:03:54.960 --> 0:03:58.280 Brown about this a couple of days before the game, 0:03:59.160 --> 0:04:04.160 and that is they have such a good rotational defensive front. 0:04:05.000 --> 0:04:07.160 You know when you can go in. I thought one 0:04:07.200 --> 0:04:11.960 of the underrated trades that any team made this year 0:04:13.480 --> 0:04:16.039 was the Bengals trading a guy they really had no 0:04:16.160 --> 0:04:20.760 interest in keeping, Billy Price for b J Hill with 0:04:20.800 --> 0:04:26.120 the Giants. That to me was a terrific trade because 0:04:26.279 --> 0:04:30.000 I watch a lot of football, and I say, b J. 0:04:30.279 --> 0:04:35.960 Hill is a really good usable player, and you put 0:04:36.000 --> 0:04:38.680 him in there for twenty to twenty five snaps a game, 0:04:39.040 --> 0:04:42.240 you're gonna get some havoc being wrought. And you know, 0:04:42.320 --> 0:04:45.720 obviously the big name is Trey Hendrickson and he's been fantastic, 0:04:46.080 --> 0:04:49.360 but I think it is the depth on that defensive 0:04:49.400 --> 0:04:53.800 line that has given teams fits and I think is 0:04:53.800 --> 0:04:55.480 going to lead one of the things that's going to 0:04:55.600 --> 0:04:58.280 lead the Bengals into the playoffs. Well it's a really 0:04:58.279 --> 0:05:00.839 good point because we chatted before the season, Peter and 0:05:00.880 --> 0:05:03.640 you expected the Bengals to be a really exciting team 0:05:03.640 --> 0:05:05.479 that scored a ton of points but had to win 0:05:05.560 --> 0:05:08.160 games like thirty eight to thirty five, And as it 0:05:08.200 --> 0:05:11.200 turns out, the defense is top twelve in the league 0:05:11.200 --> 0:05:13.680 in points allowed. Has that been a big surprise to you? 0:05:14.440 --> 0:05:18.599 Very big surprise, because look, when I looked at the 0:05:18.600 --> 0:05:24.320 Bengals before this year, I saw three excellent receivers, a 0:05:24.440 --> 0:05:26.919 guy who was unafraid to throw it all around the lot, 0:05:26.960 --> 0:05:30.320 and then a defense that was very iffy. I saw 0:05:31.120 --> 0:05:38.080 the eighties slash early nineties San Diego Chargers, and they 0:05:38.160 --> 0:05:42.280 have become a much different team than that, I think 0:05:42.320 --> 0:05:46.039 because of their defense, And I think their defense is 0:05:46.080 --> 0:05:48.600 really what's going to separate them going down these last 0:05:48.640 --> 0:05:52.520 three games. We're visiting with Peter King from NBC Sports. 0:05:52.520 --> 0:05:55.000 You also visited with Zach Taylor when you were in 0:05:55.040 --> 0:05:57.480 town a couple of weeks ago, the day before that game. 0:05:57.560 --> 0:06:00.120 How have you seen him grow and evolve in his 0:06:00.200 --> 0:06:03.440 three years as an NFL head coach. I think one 0:06:03.480 --> 0:06:06.480 of the things that and I talked to Zach about 0:06:06.520 --> 0:06:10.040 this that I don't want to make this too dramatic 0:06:10.440 --> 0:06:15.279 or too different, really, but Zach Taylor's a better coach 0:06:15.279 --> 0:06:17.960 when he's got a quarterback. That's all there is to it. 0:06:18.560 --> 0:06:21.359 And you look right now at to me, some of 0:06:21.400 --> 0:06:24.320 the really good coaches in the NFL. I mean, let's 0:06:24.320 --> 0:06:26.680 just look at the last two years. How is Bill 0:06:26.720 --> 0:06:29.760 Belichick last year when he didn't have a quarterback and 0:06:29.800 --> 0:06:32.640 no offense to Cam Newton? But I think his best 0:06:32.720 --> 0:06:36.560 days are over. And you know they went seven and 0:06:36.680 --> 0:06:40.360 nine without a quarterback last year. I think it's very, 0:06:40.600 --> 0:06:45.560 very hard in today's game when you no matter how 0:06:45.680 --> 0:06:48.840 good a coach you are. I think Matt Rule. I mean, look, 0:06:49.360 --> 0:06:51.840 I'm probably going to be a laughing stock for saying this. 0:06:52.000 --> 0:06:54.359 I think Matt Rule is a top ten coach in 0:06:54.400 --> 0:06:58.560 the NFL period. I think he's tremendous. And what has 0:06:58.560 --> 0:07:01.640 happened to him over his first year and three quarters, 0:07:01.960 --> 0:07:05.680 you know, he has really really stumbled when you know 0:07:05.760 --> 0:07:09.280 when they've had to rely on their quarterback to win games, 0:07:09.560 --> 0:07:13.080 whether it's Teddy Bridgewater, Sam Darnelder, Cam Newton. So that's 0:07:13.080 --> 0:07:17.680 a long way of saying, essentially about Zach Taylor, I 0:07:17.720 --> 0:07:19.840 think every coach is going to be better when they 0:07:19.880 --> 0:07:22.920 have a quarterback that gives him a chance and look 0:07:23.360 --> 0:07:26.840 after the game I saw Dan. One of the things 0:07:26.920 --> 0:07:29.240 I thought that was really interesting is that is the 0:07:29.320 --> 0:07:33.920 heat that Zach Taylor took for his play calls, you know, 0:07:34.040 --> 0:07:37.000 in putting the ball in Joe Mixon's hands right at 0:07:37.040 --> 0:07:40.200 the end instead of putting it in Joe burrows hands. Okay, 0:07:41.320 --> 0:07:43.680 and I thought at the time, and I think everybody 0:07:43.680 --> 0:07:47.280 thought at the time, you know, not really great play calling. 0:07:47.400 --> 0:07:51.200 I applaud Zach Taylor for standing up after the game 0:07:51.400 --> 0:07:54.320 basically saying it's going to be hard to sleep thinking 0:07:54.360 --> 0:07:59.440 about those calls, and so he understands that he's still 0:07:59.520 --> 0:08:02.360 learning as a head coach and as a coach period. 0:08:02.960 --> 0:08:05.160 I like him. I think he's good, and I think 0:08:05.200 --> 0:08:10.120 his players play really hard for him. I'm bullish on 0:08:10.320 --> 0:08:14.560 his future. When you covered the Bengals for The Inquirer 0:08:14.720 --> 0:08:18.400 many years ago, Boomer Asiasin was the quarterback. See any 0:08:18.440 --> 0:08:24.520 parallels between Joe Burrow and Boomer fearlessness? But and again, 0:08:24.600 --> 0:08:27.520 I don't know Joe, you know, I really don't. Have 0:08:27.600 --> 0:08:29.680 talked to him a few times, but I don't know 0:08:29.800 --> 0:08:33.000 him at all really. But the thing I like about him, 0:08:33.080 --> 0:08:37.160 I'm reminded of the game he played his senior year 0:08:37.520 --> 0:08:41.680 at his last year at LSU against Alabama when he 0:08:41.840 --> 0:08:44.360 just came out firing. And I remember after the season, 0:08:44.400 --> 0:08:47.720 I asked Joe Brady about that, who at the time 0:08:47.760 --> 0:08:51.560 was his offensive coordinator, and he goes, Joe is not 0:08:51.640 --> 0:08:55.280 the kind of quarterback who needs a few completions to 0:08:55.360 --> 0:08:59.280 get him confident. You know, he just comes out firing. 0:09:00.080 --> 0:09:04.520 So I think I think the same thing as they. 0:09:04.840 --> 0:09:09.200 Boomer really had tremendous confidence. You know, he played in 0:09:09.240 --> 0:09:13.320 an error with Joe Montana and Dan Marino, and Boomer 0:09:13.400 --> 0:09:17.200 was not apologetic. He thought he was absolutely in their league. 0:09:17.360 --> 0:09:20.079 And you know, if you gave him truth, Ceremy so 0:09:20.200 --> 0:09:22.920 I'm better than those guys, And I think in a 0:09:22.960 --> 0:09:25.480 lot of ways, that's what you need to have at 0:09:25.520 --> 0:09:29.160 that position. What I sense from Burrow is that he 0:09:29.240 --> 0:09:31.960 believes no quarterback is better than he is. He's not 0:09:32.000 --> 0:09:35.320 going to say it, but he believes that deep down. 0:09:35.720 --> 0:09:37.920 And I think that's the way he plays the game. 0:09:38.640 --> 0:09:43.040 Fourth down to make that incredible throat to Jamar Chase 0:09:43.640 --> 0:09:46.200 trolling the back of the end zone where you know 0:09:46.320 --> 0:09:51.000 he's three blades of grass from being out the back 0:09:51.040 --> 0:09:54.320 of the end zone and somehow, some way, you know, 0:09:54.440 --> 0:09:57.600 scrambling around running for his life, Burrow finds him and 0:09:57.640 --> 0:10:00.560 he throws him a dart and it's a touchdown. I mean, 0:10:01.120 --> 0:10:03.280 I think you would count on about three or four 0:10:03.320 --> 0:10:06.400 fingers the players in the NFL who can make that 0:10:06.520 --> 0:10:12.240 play with the understanding that the entire game was on 0:10:12.280 --> 0:10:17.800 the line on that single play. One game separates first 0:10:17.800 --> 0:10:20.120 place from the last place in the AFC North with 0:10:20.200 --> 0:10:22.720 three games to go, how do you assess the race 0:10:23.120 --> 0:10:25.960 as we head into this three game stretch. I think 0:10:25.960 --> 0:10:29.280 what is really interesting about the race is that, you know, 0:10:29.559 --> 0:10:32.320 I look at the playoff race everywhere, and I just 0:10:32.360 --> 0:10:36.680 look at the schedules and look, I think, in order 0:10:36.720 --> 0:10:40.560 to win this division, the Bengals have to go two 0:10:40.559 --> 0:10:45.319 and one, and those two better be Baltimore in Cleveland. 0:10:47.040 --> 0:10:49.840 And look, winning at Cleveland in a game that the 0:10:49.840 --> 0:10:53.920 Browns probably are going to need to have any hope 0:10:53.960 --> 0:10:56.160 to make the playoffs. That's just my guests sitting here 0:10:56.240 --> 0:10:59.240 right now. And so that leaves the one other game. Oh, 0:10:59.320 --> 0:11:01.600 by the way, the team with the best record in 0:11:01.640 --> 0:11:07.439 football Kansas City. So that is a really rough schedule, 0:11:07.920 --> 0:11:10.920 and you know, look, you just don't have to be 0:11:10.960 --> 0:11:14.640 a genius. The Bengals have to go minimum two and one, 0:11:15.720 --> 0:11:18.960 and again, as I say, the two had better be 0:11:19.000 --> 0:11:22.560 the division games, because this could welcome down the division 0:11:22.600 --> 0:11:27.320 could welcome down to a tiebreaker. Peter, you've seen pretty nostalgic. 0:11:27.400 --> 0:11:30.000 On your trip back to Cincinnati. A couple of weeks ago, 0:11:30.080 --> 0:11:33.720 you visited your first house in Mount Washington. How did 0:11:33.760 --> 0:11:39.080 Cincinnati shape you as a young football reporter. I'm the 0:11:39.160 --> 0:11:41.880 luckiest man on the face of the earth. That was 0:11:41.920 --> 0:11:46.480 my first job in covering football because for many reasons. 0:11:46.600 --> 0:11:51.079 Number one, you know, I lived on the bottom floor 0:11:51.320 --> 0:11:56.000 in a dormitory at Wilmington College, with which was the 0:11:56.080 --> 0:12:00.400 player's dorm catty corner across the hall was my Brown, 0:12:00.480 --> 0:12:03.640 a lot younger in those days, thirty seven years ago. 0:12:05.240 --> 0:12:07.640 And then next door to him was Paul Brown. Now 0:12:07.640 --> 0:12:10.520 Paul Brown didn't stay in the dorm, I don't think 0:12:10.679 --> 0:12:13.600 very many nights, but he was there. I saw him 0:12:13.600 --> 0:12:16.559 in his room a lot Sam White down the hall. 0:12:16.960 --> 0:12:20.400 He said, anytime you need anything, anytime you have any questions, 0:12:21.000 --> 0:12:23.559 meetings are done about nine thirty or so, just come 0:12:23.640 --> 0:12:28.400 knock at my door. It's just it's just a different 0:12:28.559 --> 0:12:32.640 time covering the NFL. But half the practice is that 0:12:32.800 --> 0:12:37.160 summer in training camp I watched with Paul Brown and 0:12:37.280 --> 0:12:41.760 it just was it was amazing. It was an amazing education, 0:12:42.440 --> 0:12:45.400 and I think to have a team that, I mean, 0:12:45.440 --> 0:12:49.319 nobody now looks at them like that as a wide 0:12:49.360 --> 0:12:53.040 open franchise or anything like that. Everybody looks at the 0:12:53.080 --> 0:12:58.520 Bengals as being this secret of KGB team. I mean 0:12:59.040 --> 0:13:02.040 at the time, you know, when I covered him, it 0:13:02.200 --> 0:13:05.440 was the greatest time to be covering the NFL, and 0:13:06.880 --> 0:13:11.240 the education I got doing it was really terrific. So 0:13:11.840 --> 0:13:16.160 really a lot to that year. And then you know, 0:13:16.160 --> 0:13:18.240 when I left there and went to New York to 0:13:18.280 --> 0:13:22.480 cover the Giants, I think I was really prepared because 0:13:22.520 --> 0:13:26.240 I'm a competitive person. I was prepared to go and 0:13:26.840 --> 0:13:30.240 compete in that market covering a team that a year 0:13:30.320 --> 0:13:33.720 later would win the Super Bowls. So yeah, I had 0:13:33.800 --> 0:13:37.840 pretty pretty great formative years, you know, and just the 0:13:37.920 --> 0:13:41.720 opportunities that I had. Peter or Mary, Christmas to you 0:13:41.760 --> 0:13:45.840 and your family. Congratulations on your third grandchild, Peter born 0:13:45.880 --> 0:13:48.080 a week ago today, and thanks so much for your time. 0:13:48.080 --> 0:13:51.320 We always appreciate it. I really appreciate it. Dan, all 0:13:51.360 --> 0:13:53.200 the best to you, Mary, Christmas, to you and to 0:13:53.280 --> 0:13:56.880 everybody in your audience. One of the most amazing things 0:13:56.880 --> 0:13:59.920 statistically about the Bengals through fourteen games is how Joe 0:14:00.080 --> 0:14:03.560 Burrow has distributed the ball to the Cincinnati three way 0:14:03.559 --> 0:14:07.200 of Jamaar Chase, Tyler Boyd and t Higgins. Chase has 0:14:07.280 --> 0:14:12.840 sixty one catches, Boyd has sixty, and Higgins has fifty nine. 0:14:13.320 --> 0:14:15.680 As Dave Lapham pointed out this week, if you take 0:14:15.760 --> 0:14:18.400 one catch away from Chase and give it to Higgins, 0:14:18.720 --> 0:14:23.200 all three would have sixty receptions. Chase is headed to 0:14:23.200 --> 0:14:26.320 the Pro Bowl as a rookie, Higgins recently at three 0:14:26.360 --> 0:14:30.040 straight one hundred yard games, and Boyd was the offensive 0:14:30.080 --> 0:14:33.760 star last week in Denver. I spoke to Boyd in 0:14:33.880 --> 0:14:38.840 this week's one on one player conversation. Tyler, I am 0:14:38.880 --> 0:14:42.920 so happy for you and Joe Mixon and Sam Hubbard 0:14:43.080 --> 0:14:45.760 and Trey Hopkins, guys who have played their hearts out 0:14:46.120 --> 0:14:49.080 when the Bengals weren't in contention and now you're playing 0:14:49.160 --> 0:14:53.000 huge games in December. Does a playoff hunt make your 0:14:53.040 --> 0:14:56.760 body feel better? Absolutely, you know, And it makes your 0:14:56.800 --> 0:15:00.360 mental feel better, you know, because you're out there during 0:15:00.400 --> 0:15:03.320 the four reason you know later. Usually at this time, 0:15:03.480 --> 0:15:06.240 you know, we we we knew we wasn't playoff contenders, 0:15:06.280 --> 0:15:08.840 and we were just just trying to get by, you know. 0:15:08.880 --> 0:15:11.560 But now that we're actually playing for Solomon, it's more meaningful, 0:15:11.600 --> 0:15:14.120 and guys buy an end and we don't want to 0:15:14.160 --> 0:15:16.120 let each other down. Then it makes us want to 0:15:16.160 --> 0:15:18.760 want to play ever harder. We're chatting the Tyler Boyd. 0:15:18.800 --> 0:15:21.440 You had a gigantic game last week in Denver. Five 0:15:21.520 --> 0:15:24.120 catches and ninety six yards, including the fifty six yard 0:15:24.160 --> 0:15:27.080 touchdown that won the game. Three of the five catches 0:15:27.120 --> 0:15:30.840 came in crucial situations where the Bengals had to have it. 0:15:30.840 --> 0:15:32.440 It reminded me a little bit of that game in 0:15:32.480 --> 0:15:35.120 Atlanta several years ago where you had two fourth down 0:15:35.200 --> 0:15:37.200 catches and a big third down catch on the game 0:15:37.200 --> 0:15:40.000 winning drive at the end. Is that the best feeling 0:15:40.080 --> 0:15:42.360 in the world when the game is on the line 0:15:42.640 --> 0:15:46.040 and your quarterback is looking for you always, you know. 0:15:46.160 --> 0:15:49.720 But again, I've always been that guy, uh that came 0:15:49.760 --> 0:15:51.520 through in the clutch, you know, in third downs and 0:15:51.680 --> 0:15:55.040 fourth downs, you know, because um I just I just 0:15:55.080 --> 0:15:57.680 I just do a good job of winning my rots, 0:15:57.720 --> 0:16:00.320 you know. And in the quarterbacks trust me and they 0:16:00.400 --> 0:16:02.240 know what we have when when when when we break 0:16:02.280 --> 0:16:04.320 the hud on the defensive line up in a certain way, 0:16:04.640 --> 0:16:07.480 but at any given moment of the field, every time 0:16:07.680 --> 0:16:10.720 a third, third down or sprucial time. I mean, that's 0:16:10.720 --> 0:16:14.240 when the stars shot the most, the brightest, you know. 0:16:14.280 --> 0:16:16.800 And I was gonna be the guy when my numbers called. 0:16:16.800 --> 0:16:19.320 I want to make each and every player, you know, 0:16:19.400 --> 0:16:21.400 regardless of what the situation is. But when the big 0:16:21.440 --> 0:16:24.760 situation is always the best feeling, because that's when show 0:16:24.800 --> 0:16:27.120 you what type player you are. You are miked up 0:16:27.120 --> 0:16:30.120 for sound last week. He probably forget about it during 0:16:30.200 --> 0:16:32.920 the game. But then at the end of the game, 0:16:33.120 --> 0:16:35.400 when it's a great game, are you excited to go 0:16:35.440 --> 0:16:39.480 back and listen to the sound. Absolutely, because I remember 0:16:39.520 --> 0:16:42.120 being told I was gonna be miked up, but I 0:16:42.160 --> 0:16:45.800 didn't get the refresher going out there, so I didn't 0:16:45.840 --> 0:16:47.680 get the warring guys. But I don't think there's nothing 0:16:47.720 --> 0:16:51.160 going on crazy. But yeah, it's always fun, especially the 0:16:51.240 --> 0:16:54.480 guy that's being miked up that's having a big game, 0:16:54.600 --> 0:16:56.720 you know, and see how his his emotion is and 0:16:58.000 --> 0:16:59.600 how MPEd up he is, you know. So I think 0:16:59.600 --> 0:17:02.040 I think I had good stuff on there. We're chatting 0:17:02.080 --> 0:17:04.240 with Tyler Boy. This is your second year with Joe 0:17:04.240 --> 0:17:07.480 Burrow at quarterback. Do your wide receiver buddies around the 0:17:07.560 --> 0:17:10.240 league asking about Joe and if Sell, what do you say? 0:17:11.119 --> 0:17:13.480 I think Joe gets so much respect to running league. 0:17:13.480 --> 0:17:16.639 You know, every guy, every team has so much respect 0:17:16.640 --> 0:17:18.600 for him and know what he's capable of. You know, 0:17:19.480 --> 0:17:21.919 his numbers speak for it all. He's a sound player, 0:17:21.920 --> 0:17:25.159 he's smart, he gets it, gets in the best situations 0:17:25.160 --> 0:17:27.680 possible every time. You know, and uh, I mean guys 0:17:27.760 --> 0:17:29.879 don't really ask too much because because they know. You know, 0:17:30.000 --> 0:17:33.560 it's like he's almost as of Aaron Rodger Tom Brady 0:17:33.640 --> 0:17:35.680 level with respect, you know, but not quite there yet, 0:17:35.720 --> 0:17:38.280 but just filling him go out there and just knowing 0:17:38.320 --> 0:17:40.400 he can just take over a game at any given moment. 0:17:40.400 --> 0:17:42.840 You know, it's scary for for any team. So I 0:17:42.920 --> 0:17:46.080 think the whole league respects him. It doesn't seem that 0:17:46.119 --> 0:17:48.919 long ago to me. Where you are the youngster in 0:17:48.960 --> 0:17:51.439 a wide receiver room with guys like AJ Green and 0:17:51.480 --> 0:17:54.639 Brandon LaFell. Now you're the VET with more than eighty 0:17:54.640 --> 0:17:57.440 games of NFL experience under your belt. Does that change 0:17:57.440 --> 0:18:00.879 anything for you? Not really, just only in terms of 0:18:00.880 --> 0:18:05.080 my leadership because I hadn't seen it all, you know, 0:18:05.119 --> 0:18:07.520 I can I can help guy guys down the right 0:18:07.560 --> 0:18:10.080 path because I haven't been through it all. You know. 0:18:10.080 --> 0:18:12.400 I've been through having a great season. I've been through 0:18:12.400 --> 0:18:14.640 the season where I felt like I wasn't a part 0:18:14.640 --> 0:18:16.800 of it. I didn't feel like I was wanted things 0:18:16.800 --> 0:18:20.000 like that. But I mean I had to deal with 0:18:20.040 --> 0:18:22.240 Fight University my whole life, you know, So just being 0:18:22.280 --> 0:18:24.880 able to be that guy, the vet core guy who've 0:18:24.920 --> 0:18:27.000 been there and done it and seen it in every 0:18:27.040 --> 0:18:30.440 perspective from the practice squad who're not playing games to 0:18:30.520 --> 0:18:32.800 being active to being a guy, a core guy in 0:18:32.840 --> 0:18:35.239 the office, you know, so I could give so much 0:18:35.320 --> 0:18:38.840 intel to the younger guys and guys who's still waiting 0:18:38.840 --> 0:18:41.880 on the opportunity to just stay of course and just work. 0:18:42.160 --> 0:18:43.600 You know. So, I think I did a good job 0:18:43.600 --> 0:18:45.640 of just keeping guys up and motivating them and wanting 0:18:45.640 --> 0:18:48.680 to be here. You dominated the first meeting forty one 0:18:48.720 --> 0:18:51.959 to seventeen. Joe Burrow had four hundred and sixteen passing 0:18:52.000 --> 0:18:54.440 yards at the end of the third quarter. Does that 0:18:54.520 --> 0:18:59.440 mean anything? This Sunday. Um, just depending on how they 0:18:59.440 --> 0:19:00.800 want to come out of play us. You know, I 0:19:00.880 --> 0:19:04.080 knew Joe was gonna have a huge game because uh 0:19:04.119 --> 0:19:07.760 they're del their defensive structure based off a lot of 0:19:07.760 --> 0:19:10.760 blitzing and and went on one because they trust their corner. 0:19:10.760 --> 0:19:12.760 They have real talent talents at corners, so they can 0:19:12.840 --> 0:19:15.600 do that, you know. But um we we we believe 0:19:15.640 --> 0:19:17.000 in our guys too. We feel like we got the 0:19:17.000 --> 0:19:19.320 best weapons and if teams went the man ass up, 0:19:19.359 --> 0:19:20.879 I think that's when we have our best games. I 0:19:20.920 --> 0:19:23.920 saw our receivers to catch the ball and make a play, 0:19:24.200 --> 0:19:26.280 you know. But um we we always go out there 0:19:26.280 --> 0:19:29.080 expecting uh Joe to have a huge game, you know, 0:19:29.200 --> 0:19:32.080 no matter what. Even last week, I felt like he 0:19:32.119 --> 0:19:33.919 had one of the best games, you know, despite him 0:19:33.960 --> 0:19:35.960 not having a yardage, you know, just all the little 0:19:35.960 --> 0:19:38.520 things of him creating plays with his legs, you know, 0:19:38.600 --> 0:19:41.679 just keeping us manageable and downs and just getting us 0:19:41.680 --> 0:19:43.560 first downs when guys was an oprah they and they 0:19:43.600 --> 0:19:45.399 played us played well on the back end, you know, 0:19:45.440 --> 0:19:48.880 so he always uh figures a way to to to 0:19:49.080 --> 0:19:52.120 keep the ball rolling, to to move a chance. Last 0:19:52.119 --> 0:19:54.879 thing for Tyler Boyd on Christmas morning, there are a 0:19:54.880 --> 0:19:56.720 bunch of kids that are gonna get out, They're gonna 0:19:56.800 --> 0:19:59.000 rip open their package and they're gonna see a Tyler 0:19:59.080 --> 0:20:02.560 Boyd jersey New Bengals jersey that they had on their 0:20:02.600 --> 0:20:06.000 wish list. Do you ever think about stuff like that? Absolutely? 0:20:06.040 --> 0:20:09.200 He knows so so much. It's so aspiring to me, Uh, 0:20:09.680 --> 0:20:13.640 to know kids is looking up to me and care 0:20:13.680 --> 0:20:16.240 about me that much, you know, to want to ask 0:20:16.240 --> 0:20:18.200 their parents for a Tyler boy jersey because I was 0:20:18.240 --> 0:20:20.600 once a kid, you know, asking for a certain players jerseys, 0:20:20.640 --> 0:20:24.120 in particular Ladanian Thomainson that was that was my my guy. 0:20:24.200 --> 0:20:26.600 You know, I loved him. I had probably all different 0:20:26.600 --> 0:20:28.679 colors of his jerseys, you know. So I know the 0:20:28.720 --> 0:20:31.600 feeling of how excited kids be wanting to get their 0:20:31.600 --> 0:20:33.720 their favorite players jersey. But it's just an awesome feeling 0:20:33.720 --> 0:20:37.600 now that um, kids want to want my jersey, you know, 0:20:37.640 --> 0:20:39.840 because I haven't. I haven't been through that, and it's 0:20:39.840 --> 0:20:43.080 just just just an awesome feeling. Merry Christmas, best of 0:20:43.160 --> 0:20:45.119 luck on Sunday and the rest of the year. Appreciate you. 0:20:45.200 --> 0:20:48.880 Thanks for having me The Bengals Booth Podcast. 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Now time 0:21:07.720 --> 0:21:12.520 for my weekly chat with my broadcast partner Dave Lapham Lapp. 0:21:12.520 --> 0:21:14.919 In your ten years as an NFL player, there were 0:21:15.040 --> 0:21:17.760 years where the Bengals were in contention, highlighted by the 0:21:17.840 --> 0:21:20.640 nineteen eighty one Super Bowl run, and there were years 0:21:20.640 --> 0:21:23.000 where you had no chance at this time of the year. 0:21:23.560 --> 0:21:26.720 Can you describe the impact of being in the hunt 0:21:27.280 --> 0:21:34.440 in such a physically demanding sport. Yeah, it's actually it's thrilling, 0:21:34.520 --> 0:21:38.680 you know, being in the hunt. It um, it makes 0:21:38.720 --> 0:21:42.080 it all worthwhile, you know, all the all the physical 0:21:42.240 --> 0:21:45.399 and mental anguish that can go along with playing the 0:21:45.440 --> 0:21:50.000 game of football. That's why it's it's so tough to 0:21:50.000 --> 0:21:52.520 to keep grinding when you're out of it. I mean, 0:21:52.520 --> 0:21:55.520 that's that's a tough dynamic. It's it's very easy to 0:21:56.400 --> 0:21:59.320 get yourself ready to play when you go to bed 0:21:59.359 --> 0:22:01.520 at night, to the football games you're not a store 0:22:01.600 --> 0:22:03.360 when you wake up the next morning, you're not quite 0:22:03.400 --> 0:22:07.240 a store. You're just you're excited about the game plan 0:22:07.480 --> 0:22:09.960 coming up. You can't wait to get the game plan 0:22:10.040 --> 0:22:13.160 coming up. You do extra, you know, and to prepare 0:22:13.200 --> 0:22:16.919 yourself to plan that football game. It's just that the 0:22:17.040 --> 0:22:20.320 ripple effect in a positive way is very very good, 0:22:20.800 --> 0:22:22.840 and the ripple effect in a negative way when you're 0:22:22.880 --> 0:22:25.000 out of it is you're always fighting to try to 0:22:25.600 --> 0:22:27.959 do everything you possibly can. You know, you know that 0:22:28.000 --> 0:22:31.160 you're getting paid to play. You know you're being evaluated. 0:22:32.000 --> 0:22:34.000 You don't want to be labeled a front runner. You 0:22:34.000 --> 0:22:36.520 don't want to be labeled a guy that, oh yeah 0:22:36.560 --> 0:22:39.359