1 00:00:03,680 --> 00:00:06,479 Speaker 1: I get everybody. I'm Dan Horde and thanks for downloading 2 00:00:06,480 --> 00:00:11,480 Speaker 1: The Bengals Booth Podcast. The don't stop me because I'm 3 00:00:11,520 --> 00:00:16,160 Speaker 1: having a good time. I'm having a good time. Addition, 4 00:00:16,480 --> 00:00:19,160 Speaker 1: as the Bengals look to grab sole possession of first 5 00:00:19,160 --> 00:00:21,919 Speaker 1: place in the AFC North as they battle the Baltimore 6 00:00:22,000 --> 00:00:25,520 Speaker 1: Ravens on Sunday at Paul Brown Stadium. Coming up, I'll 7 00:00:25,520 --> 00:00:28,400 Speaker 1: talk to Peter King from NBC Sports about Joe Burrow, 8 00:00:28,520 --> 00:00:30,639 Speaker 1: Zach Taylor and what the two of them are building 9 00:00:30,720 --> 00:00:34,440 Speaker 1: in Cincinnati. One on one player interview is with Tyler Boyd, 10 00:00:34,479 --> 00:00:37,919 Speaker 1: who is savoring the first December playoff chase of his 11 00:00:38,159 --> 00:00:41,760 Speaker 1: NFL career. Dave Lapham joins me to discuss the Bengals 12 00:00:41,760 --> 00:00:45,000 Speaker 1: injury situation and what it's going to take to sweep 13 00:00:45,040 --> 00:00:48,960 Speaker 1: the regular season series from Baltimore. And finally, in our 14 00:00:49,000 --> 00:00:51,360 Speaker 1: Know the Faux segment, we'll get the scoop on the 15 00:00:51,479 --> 00:00:56,080 Speaker 1: Ravens from former Baltimore linebacker turned media member Brad Jackson. 16 00:00:56,520 --> 00:01:00,320 Speaker 1: The Bengals Booth Podcast is presented by Ultimate Bengals, the 17 00:01:00,400 --> 00:01:04,479 Speaker 1: free to play Next Level Fantasy Football game downloaded now 18 00:01:04,560 --> 00:01:07,080 Speaker 1: from the App Store and Google Play, and here's a 19 00:01:07,160 --> 00:01:09,480 Speaker 1: quick reminder that you can have the latest edition of 20 00:01:09,560 --> 00:01:13,200 Speaker 1: this podcast delivered right to your phone, tablet, or computer 21 00:01:13,520 --> 00:01:17,679 Speaker 1: by subscribing wherever you get your podcasts. It's the greatest 22 00:01:17,680 --> 00:01:22,840 Speaker 1: thing since a gas fireplace. 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Now let's get to this week's guests, 31 00:01:54,560 --> 00:01:57,800 Speaker 1: beginning with a three time National Sportswriter of the Year 32 00:01:58,120 --> 00:02:01,080 Speaker 1: who covered the Bengals for the Cincinnati The Inquirer in 33 00:02:01,120 --> 00:02:04,880 Speaker 1: the nineteen eighties. One of the highlights of my week 34 00:02:04,960 --> 00:02:07,520 Speaker 1: is sitting down on Monday morning with a big cup 35 00:02:07,520 --> 00:02:10,640 Speaker 1: of coffee and Peter King's weekly labor of love, the 36 00:02:10,680 --> 00:02:13,960 Speaker 1: Football Morning and America Column. And Peter, you were here 37 00:02:13,960 --> 00:02:16,360 Speaker 1: in Cincinnati a couple of weeks ago for a firsthand 38 00:02:16,440 --> 00:02:19,200 Speaker 1: look at the Bengals for their overtime loss against the 39 00:02:19,240 --> 00:02:21,200 Speaker 1: forty nine ers. What were a couple of your biggest 40 00:02:21,240 --> 00:02:25,760 Speaker 1: takeaways from seeing this team in person, Dan As, you know, 41 00:02:26,800 --> 00:02:29,399 Speaker 1: as somebody who's around this team a lot and who 42 00:02:29,440 --> 00:02:35,440 Speaker 1: lives in Cincinnati, there's a there is a natural skepticism 43 00:02:36,040 --> 00:02:41,600 Speaker 1: about the Bengals anytime they get good. There was a skepticism, 44 00:02:42,200 --> 00:02:44,519 Speaker 1: you know, when Kurs and Palmers started to play well 45 00:02:44,639 --> 00:02:48,840 Speaker 1: early this century. There was a skepticism around Andy Dalton. 46 00:02:49,040 --> 00:02:52,440 Speaker 1: But you know, they both played well, and they both 47 00:02:52,560 --> 00:02:58,120 Speaker 1: really lifted this franchise to heights that they hadn't seen 48 00:02:58,160 --> 00:03:02,720 Speaker 1: since the Boomer days. Really, and you know, I think 49 00:03:03,000 --> 00:03:07,000 Speaker 1: I think there might be one different thing now with 50 00:03:07,480 --> 00:03:13,040 Speaker 1: Joe Burrow and the Bengals, and that is that there's 51 00:03:13,200 --> 00:03:16,239 Speaker 1: something about Burrow. You know, in my column a couple 52 00:03:16,320 --> 00:03:20,440 Speaker 1: of weeks ago, I called the machine gun Burrow. I'd 53 00:03:20,520 --> 00:03:23,960 Speaker 1: like to see Burrow of the fourth quarter against the 54 00:03:24,000 --> 00:03:29,440 Speaker 1: forty nine ers for four quarters consistently, and he hasn't 55 00:03:29,480 --> 00:03:32,480 Speaker 1: done that yet, but I think he will in time. 56 00:03:33,840 --> 00:03:38,640 Speaker 1: But I think the Bengals have themselves a guy who's 57 00:03:38,640 --> 00:03:42,160 Speaker 1: going to turn out to be a consistent top five, 58 00:03:42,320 --> 00:03:45,560 Speaker 1: top ten quarterback in the NFL for years, as long 59 00:03:45,600 --> 00:03:48,600 Speaker 1: as they can keep them healthy. And that was my 60 00:03:48,680 --> 00:03:51,880 Speaker 1: one overwriting take. But the other real difference to me 61 00:03:52,040 --> 00:03:54,920 Speaker 1: is that, you know, and I was talking to Mike 62 00:03:54,960 --> 00:03:58,280 Speaker 1: Brown about this a couple of days before the game, 63 00:03:59,160 --> 00:04:04,160 Speaker 1: and that is they have such a good rotational defensive front. 64 00:04:05,000 --> 00:04:07,160 Speaker 1: You know when you can go in. I thought one 65 00:04:07,200 --> 00:04:11,960 Speaker 1: of the underrated trades that any team made this year 66 00:04:13,480 --> 00:04:16,039 Speaker 1: was the Bengals trading a guy they really had no 67 00:04:16,160 --> 00:04:20,760 Speaker 1: interest in keeping, Billy Price for b J Hill with 68 00:04:20,800 --> 00:04:26,120 Speaker 1: the Giants. That to me was a terrific trade because 69 00:04:26,279 --> 00:04:30,000 Speaker 1: I watch a lot of football, and I say, b J. 70 00:04:30,279 --> 00:04:35,960 Speaker 1: Hill is a really good usable player, and you put 71 00:04:36,000 --> 00:04:38,680 Speaker 1: him in there for twenty to twenty five snaps a game, 72 00:04:39,040 --> 00:04:42,240 Speaker 1: you're gonna get some havoc being wrought. And you know, 73 00:04:42,320 --> 00:04:45,720 Speaker 1: obviously the big name is Trey Hendrickson and he's been fantastic, 74 00:04:46,080 --> 00:04:49,360 Speaker 1: but I think it is the depth on that defensive 75 00:04:49,400 --> 00:04:53,800 Speaker 1: line that has given teams fits and I think is 76 00:04:53,800 --> 00:04:55,480 Speaker 1: going to lead one of the things that's going to 77 00:04:55,600 --> 00:04:58,280 Speaker 1: lead the Bengals into the playoffs. Well it's a really 78 00:04:58,279 --> 00:05:00,839 Speaker 1: good point because we chatted before the season, Peter and 79 00:05:00,880 --> 00:05:03,640 Speaker 1: you expected the Bengals to be a really exciting team 80 00:05:03,640 --> 00:05:05,479 Speaker 1: that scored a ton of points but had to win 81 00:05:05,560 --> 00:05:08,160 Speaker 1: games like thirty eight to thirty five, And as it 82 00:05:08,200 --> 00:05:11,200 Speaker 1: turns out, the defense is top twelve in the league 83 00:05:11,200 --> 00:05:13,680 Speaker 1: in points allowed. Has that been a big surprise to you? 84 00:05:14,440 --> 00:05:18,599 Speaker 1: Very big surprise, because look, when I looked at the 85 00:05:18,600 --> 00:05:24,320 Speaker 1: Bengals before this year, I saw three excellent receivers, a 86 00:05:24,440 --> 00:05:26,919 Speaker 1: guy who was unafraid to throw it all around the lot, 87 00:05:26,960 --> 00:05:30,320 Speaker 1: and then a defense that was very iffy. I saw 88 00:05:31,120 --> 00:05:38,080 Speaker 1: the eighties slash early nineties San Diego Chargers, and they 89 00:05:38,160 --> 00:05:42,280 Speaker 1: have become a much different team than that, I think 90 00:05:42,320 --> 00:05:46,039 Speaker 1: because of their defense, And I think their defense is 91 00:05:46,080 --> 00:05:48,600 Speaker 1: really what's going to separate them going down these last 92 00:05:48,640 --> 00:05:52,520 Speaker 1: three games. We're visiting with Peter King from NBC Sports. 93 00:05:52,520 --> 00:05:55,000 Speaker 1: You also visited with Zach Taylor when you were in 94 00:05:55,040 --> 00:05:57,480 Speaker 1: town a couple of weeks ago, the day before that game. 95 00:05:57,560 --> 00:06:00,120 Speaker 1: How have you seen him grow and evolve in his 96 00:06:00,200 --> 00:06:03,440 Speaker 1: three years as an NFL head coach. I think one 97 00:06:03,480 --> 00:06:06,480 Speaker 1: of the things that and I talked to Zach about 98 00:06:06,520 --> 00:06:10,040 Speaker 1: this that I don't want to make this too dramatic 99 00:06:10,440 --> 00:06:15,279 Speaker 1: or too different, really, but Zach Taylor's a better coach 100 00:06:15,279 --> 00:06:17,960 Speaker 1: when he's got a quarterback. That's all there is to it. 101 00:06:18,560 --> 00:06:21,359 Speaker 1: And you look right now at to me, some of 102 00:06:21,400 --> 00:06:24,320 Speaker 1: the really good coaches in the NFL. I mean, let's 103 00:06:24,320 --> 00:06:26,680 Speaker 1: just look at the last two years. How is Bill 104 00:06:26,720 --> 00:06:29,760 Speaker 1: Belichick last year when he didn't have a quarterback and 105 00:06:29,800 --> 00:06:32,640 Speaker 1: no offense to Cam Newton? But I think his best 106 00:06:32,720 --> 00:06:36,560 Speaker 1: days are over. And you know they went seven and 107 00:06:36,680 --> 00:06:40,360 Speaker 1: nine without a quarterback last year. I think it's very, 108 00:06:40,600 --> 00:06:45,560 Speaker 1: very hard in today's game when you no matter how 109 00:06:45,680 --> 00:06:48,840 Speaker 1: good a coach you are. I think Matt Rule. I mean, look, 110 00:06:49,360 --> 00:06:51,840 Speaker 1: I'm probably going to be a laughing stock for saying this. 111 00:06:52,000 --> 00:06:54,359 Speaker 1: I think Matt Rule is a top ten coach in 112 00:06:54,400 --> 00:06:58,560 Speaker 1: the NFL period. I think he's tremendous. And what has 113 00:06:58,560 --> 00:07:01,640 Speaker 1: happened to him over his first year and three quarters, 114 00:07:01,960 --> 00:07:05,680 Speaker 1: you know, he has really really stumbled when you know 115 00:07:05,760 --> 00:07:09,280 Speaker 1: when they've had to rely on their quarterback to win games, 116 00:07:09,560 --> 00:07:13,080 Speaker 1: whether it's Teddy Bridgewater, Sam Darnelder, Cam Newton. So that's 117 00:07:13,080 --> 00:07:17,680 Speaker 1: a long way of saying, essentially about Zach Taylor, I 118 00:07:17,720 --> 00:07:19,840 Speaker 1: think every coach is going to be better when they 119 00:07:19,880 --> 00:07:22,920 Speaker 1: have a quarterback that gives him a chance and look 120 00:07:23,360 --> 00:07:26,840 Speaker 1: after the game I saw Dan. One of the things 121 00:07:26,920 --> 00:07:29,240 Speaker 1: I thought that was really interesting is that is the 122 00:07:29,320 --> 00:07:33,920 Speaker 1: heat that Zach Taylor took for his play calls, you know, 123 00:07:34,040 --> 00:07:37,000 Speaker 1: in putting the ball in Joe Mixon's hands right at 124 00:07:37,040 --> 00:07:40,200 Speaker 1: the end instead of putting it in Joe burrows hands. Okay, 125 00:07:41,320 --> 00:07:43,680 Speaker 1: and I thought at the time, and I think everybody 126 00:07:43,680 --> 00:07:47,280 Speaker 1: thought at the time, you know, not really great play calling. 127 00:07:47,400 --> 00:07:51,200 Speaker 1: I applaud Zach Taylor for standing up after the game 128 00:07:51,400 --> 00:07:54,320 Speaker 1: basically saying it's going to be hard to sleep thinking 129 00:07:54,360 --> 00:07:59,440 Speaker 1: about those calls, and so he understands that he's still 130 00:07:59,520 --> 00:08:02,360 Speaker 1: learning as a head coach and as a coach period. 131 00:08:02,960 --> 00:08:05,160 Speaker 1: I like him. I think he's good, and I think 132 00:08:05,200 --> 00:08:10,120 Speaker 1: his players play really hard for him. I'm bullish on 133 00:08:10,320 --> 00:08:14,560 Speaker 1: his future. When you covered the Bengals for The Inquirer 134 00:08:14,720 --> 00:08:18,400 Speaker 1: many years ago, Boomer Asiasin was the quarterback. See any 135 00:08:18,440 --> 00:08:24,520 Speaker 1: parallels between Joe Burrow and Boomer fearlessness? But and again, 136 00:08:24,600 --> 00:08:27,520 Speaker 1: I don't know Joe, you know, I really don't. Have 137 00:08:27,600 --> 00:08:29,680 Speaker 1: talked to him a few times, but I don't know 138 00:08:29,800 --> 00:08:33,000 Speaker 1: him at all really. But the thing I like about him, 139 00:08:33,080 --> 00:08:37,160 Speaker 1: I'm reminded of the game he played his senior year 140 00:08:37,520 --> 00:08:41,680 Speaker 1: at his last year at LSU against Alabama when he 141 00:08:41,840 --> 00:08:44,360 Speaker 1: just came out firing. And I remember after the season, 142 00:08:44,400 --> 00:08:47,720 Speaker 1: I asked Joe Brady about that, who at the time 143 00:08:47,760 --> 00:08:51,560 Speaker 1: was his offensive coordinator, and he goes, Joe is not 144 00:08:51,640 --> 00:08:55,280 Speaker 1: the kind of quarterback who needs a few completions to 145 00:08:55,360 --> 00:08:59,280 Speaker 1: get him confident. You know, he just comes out firing. 146 00:09:00,080 --> 00:09:04,520 Speaker 1: So I think I think the same thing as they. 147 00:09:04,840 --> 00:09:09,200 Speaker 1: Boomer really had tremendous confidence. You know, he played in 148 00:09:09,240 --> 00:09:13,320 Speaker 1: an error with Joe Montana and Dan Marino, and Boomer 149 00:09:13,400 --> 00:09:17,200 Speaker 1: was not apologetic. He thought he was absolutely in their league. 150 00:09:17,360 --> 00:09:20,079 Speaker 1: And you know, if you gave him truth, Ceremy so 151 00:09:20,200 --> 00:09:22,920 Speaker 1: I'm better than those guys, And I think in a 152 00:09:22,960 --> 00:09:25,480 Speaker 1: lot of ways, that's what you need to have at 153 00:09:25,520 --> 00:09:29,160 Speaker 1: that position. What I sense from Burrow is that he 154 00:09:29,240 --> 00:09:31,960 Speaker 1: believes no quarterback is better than he is. He's not 155 00:09:32,000 --> 00:09:35,320 Speaker 1: going to say it, but he believes that deep down. 156 00:09:35,720 --> 00:09:37,920 Speaker 1: And I think that's the way he plays the game. 157 00:09:38,640 --> 00:09:43,040 Speaker 1: Fourth down to make that incredible throat to Jamar Chase 158 00:09:43,640 --> 00:09:46,200 Speaker 1: trolling the back of the end zone where you know 159 00:09:46,320 --> 00:09:51,000 Speaker 1: he's three blades of grass from being out the back 160 00:09:51,040 --> 00:09:54,320 Speaker 1: of the end zone and somehow, some way, you know, 161 00:09:54,440 --> 00:09:57,600 Speaker 1: scrambling around running for his life, Burrow finds him and 162 00:09:57,640 --> 00:10:00,560 Speaker 1: he throws him a dart and it's a touchdown. I mean, 163 00:10:01,120 --> 00:10:03,280 Speaker 1: I think you would count on about three or four 164 00:10:03,320 --> 00:10:06,400 Speaker 1: fingers the players in the NFL who can make that 165 00:10:06,520 --> 00:10:12,240 Speaker 1: play with the understanding that the entire game was on 166 00:10:12,280 --> 00:10:17,800 Speaker 1: the line on that single play. One game separates first 167 00:10:17,800 --> 00:10:20,120 Speaker 1: place from the last place in the AFC North with 168 00:10:20,200 --> 00:10:22,720 Speaker 1: three games to go, how do you assess the race 169 00:10:23,120 --> 00:10:25,960 Speaker 1: as we head into this three game stretch. I think 170 00:10:25,960 --> 00:10:29,280 Speaker 1: what is really interesting about the race is that, you know, 171 00:10:29,559 --> 00:10:32,320 Speaker 1: I look at the playoff race everywhere, and I just 172 00:10:32,360 --> 00:10:36,680 Speaker 1: look at the schedules and look, I think, in order 173 00:10:36,720 --> 00:10:40,560 Speaker 1: to win this division, the Bengals have to go two 174 00:10:40,559 --> 00:10:45,319 Speaker 1: and one, and those two better be Baltimore in Cleveland. 175 00:10:47,040 --> 00:10:49,840 Speaker 1: And look, winning at Cleveland in a game that the 176 00:10:49,840 --> 00:10:53,920 Speaker 1: Browns probably are going to need to have any hope 177 00:10:53,960 --> 00:10:56,160 Speaker 1: to make the playoffs. That's just my guests sitting here 178 00:10:56,240 --> 00:10:59,240 Speaker 1: right now. And so that leaves the one other game. Oh, 179 00:10:59,320 --> 00:11:01,600 Speaker 1: by the way, the team with the best record in 180 00:11:01,640 --> 00:11:07,439 Speaker 1: football Kansas City. So that is a really rough schedule, 181 00:11:07,920 --> 00:11:10,920 Speaker 1: and you know, look, you just don't have to be 182 00:11:10,960 --> 00:11:14,640 Speaker 1: a genius. The Bengals have to go minimum two and one, 183 00:11:15,720 --> 00:11:18,960 Speaker 1: and again, as I say, the two had better be 184 00:11:19,000 --> 00:11:22,560 Speaker 1: the division games, because this could welcome down the division 185 00:11:22,600 --> 00:11:27,320 Speaker 1: could welcome down to a tiebreaker. Peter, you've seen pretty nostalgic. 186 00:11:27,400 --> 00:11:30,000 Speaker 1: On your trip back to Cincinnati. A couple of weeks ago, 187 00:11:30,080 --> 00:11:33,720 Speaker 1: you visited your first house in Mount Washington. How did 188 00:11:33,760 --> 00:11:39,080 Speaker 1: Cincinnati shape you as a young football reporter. I'm the 189 00:11:39,160 --> 00:11:41,880 Speaker 1: luckiest man on the face of the earth. That was 190 00:11:41,920 --> 00:11:46,480 Speaker 1: my first job in covering football because for many reasons. 191 00:11:46,600 --> 00:11:51,079 Speaker 1: Number one, you know, I lived on the bottom floor 192 00:11:51,320 --> 00:11:56,000 Speaker 1: in a dormitory at Wilmington College, with which was the 193 00:11:56,080 --> 00:12:00,400 Speaker 1: player's dorm catty corner across the hall was my Brown, 194 00:12:00,480 --> 00:12:03,640 Speaker 1: a lot younger in those days, thirty seven years ago. 195 00:12:05,240 --> 00:12:07,640 Speaker 1: And then next door to him was Paul Brown. Now 196 00:12:07,640 --> 00:12:10,520 Speaker 1: Paul Brown didn't stay in the dorm, I don't think 197 00:12:10,679 --> 00:12:13,600 Speaker 1: very many nights, but he was there. I saw him 198 00:12:13,600 --> 00:12:16,559 Speaker 1: in his room a lot Sam White down the hall. 199 00:12:16,960 --> 00:12:20,400 Speaker 1: He said, anytime you need anything, anytime you have any questions, 200 00:12:21,000 --> 00:12:23,559 Speaker 1: meetings are done about nine thirty or so, just come 201 00:12:23,640 --> 00:12:28,400 Speaker 1: knock at my door. It's just it's just a different 202 00:12:28,559 --> 00:12:32,640 Speaker 1: time covering the NFL. But half the practice is that 203 00:12:32,800 --> 00:12:37,160 Speaker 1: summer in training camp I watched with Paul Brown and 204 00:12:37,280 --> 00:12:41,760 Speaker 1: it just was it was amazing. It was an amazing education, 205 00:12:42,440 --> 00:12:45,400 Speaker 1: and I think to have a team that, I mean, 206 00:12:45,440 --> 00:12:49,319 Speaker 1: nobody now looks at them like that as a wide 207 00:12:49,360 --> 00:12:53,040 Speaker 1: open franchise or anything like that. Everybody looks at the 208 00:12:53,080 --> 00:12:58,520 Speaker 1: Bengals as being this secret of KGB team. I mean 209 00:12:59,040 --> 00:13:02,040 Speaker 1: at the time, you know, when I covered him, it 210 00:13:02,200 --> 00:13:05,440 Speaker 1: was the greatest time to be covering the NFL, and 211 00:13:06,880 --> 00:13:11,240 Speaker 1: the education I got doing it was really terrific. So 212 00:13:11,840 --> 00:13:16,160 Speaker 1: really a lot to that year. And then you know, 213 00:13:16,160 --> 00:13:18,240 Speaker 1: when I left there and went to New York to 214 00:13:18,280 --> 00:13:22,480 Speaker 1: cover the Giants, I think I was really prepared because 215 00:13:22,520 --> 00:13:26,240 Speaker 1: I'm a competitive person. I was prepared to go and 216 00:13:26,840 --> 00:13:30,240 Speaker 1: compete in that market covering a team that a year 217 00:13:30,320 --> 00:13:33,720 Speaker 1: later would win the Super Bowls. So yeah, I had 218 00:13:33,800 --> 00:13:37,840 Speaker 1: pretty pretty great formative years, you know, and just the 219 00:13:37,920 --> 00:13:41,720 Speaker 1: opportunities that I had. Peter or Mary, Christmas to you 220 00:13:41,760 --> 00:13:45,840 Speaker 1: and your family. Congratulations on your third grandchild, Peter born 221 00:13:45,880 --> 00:13:48,080 Speaker 1: a week ago today, and thanks so much for your time. 222 00:13:48,080 --> 00:13:51,320 Speaker 1: We always appreciate it. I really appreciate it. Dan, all 223 00:13:51,360 --> 00:13:53,200 Speaker 1: the best to you, Mary, Christmas, to you and to 224 00:13:53,280 --> 00:13:56,880 Speaker 1: everybody in your audience. One of the most amazing things 225 00:13:56,880 --> 00:13:59,920 Speaker 1: statistically about the Bengals through fourteen games is how Joe 226 00:14:00,080 --> 00:14:03,560 Speaker 1: Burrow has distributed the ball to the Cincinnati three way 227 00:14:03,559 --> 00:14:07,200 Speaker 1: of Jamaar Chase, Tyler Boyd and t Higgins. Chase has 228 00:14:07,280 --> 00:14:12,840 Speaker 1: sixty one catches, Boyd has sixty, and Higgins has fifty nine. 229 00:14:13,320 --> 00:14:15,680 Speaker 1: As Dave Lapham pointed out this week, if you take 230 00:14:15,760 --> 00:14:18,400 Speaker 1: one catch away from Chase and give it to Higgins, 231 00:14:18,720 --> 00:14:23,200 Speaker 1: all three would have sixty receptions. Chase is headed to 232 00:14:23,200 --> 00:14:26,320 Speaker 1: the Pro Bowl as a rookie, Higgins recently at three 233 00:14:26,360 --> 00:14:30,040 Speaker 1: straight one hundred yard games, and Boyd was the offensive 234 00:14:30,080 --> 00:14:33,760 Speaker 1: star last week in Denver. I spoke to Boyd in 235 00:14:33,880 --> 00:14:38,840 Speaker 1: this week's one on one player conversation. Tyler, I am 236 00:14:38,880 --> 00:14:42,920 Speaker 1: so happy for you and Joe Mixon and Sam Hubbard 237 00:14:43,080 --> 00:14:45,760 Speaker 1: and Trey Hopkins, guys who have played their hearts out 238 00:14:46,120 --> 00:14:49,080 Speaker 1: when the Bengals weren't in contention and now you're playing 239 00:14:49,160 --> 00:14:53,000 Speaker 1: huge games in December. Does a playoff hunt make your 240 00:14:53,040 --> 00:14:56,760 Speaker 1: body feel better? Absolutely, you know, And it makes your 241 00:14:56,800 --> 00:15:00,360 Speaker 1: mental feel better, you know, because you're out there during 242 00:15:00,400 --> 00:15:03,320 Speaker 1: the four reason you know later. Usually at this time, 243 00:15:03,480 --> 00:15:06,240 Speaker 1: you know, we we we knew we wasn't playoff contenders, 244 00:15:06,280 --> 00:15:08,840 Speaker 1: and we were just just trying to get by, you know. 245 00:15:08,880 --> 00:15:11,560 Speaker 1: But now that we're actually playing for Solomon, it's more meaningful, 246 00:15:11,600 --> 00:15:14,120 Speaker 1: and guys buy an end and we don't want to 247 00:15:14,160 --> 00:15:16,120 Speaker 1: let each other down. Then it makes us want to 248 00:15:16,160 --> 00:15:18,760 Speaker 1: want to play ever harder. We're chatting the Tyler Boyd. 249 00:15:18,800 --> 00:15:21,440 Speaker 1: You had a gigantic game last week in Denver. Five 250 00:15:21,520 --> 00:15:24,120 Speaker 1: catches and ninety six yards, including the fifty six yard 251 00:15:24,160 --> 00:15:27,080 Speaker 1: touchdown that won the game. Three of the five catches 252 00:15:27,120 --> 00:15:30,840 Speaker 1: came in crucial situations where the Bengals had to have it. 253 00:15:30,840 --> 00:15:32,440 Speaker 1: It reminded me a little bit of that game in 254 00:15:32,480 --> 00:15:35,120 Speaker 1: Atlanta several years ago where you had two fourth down 255 00:15:35,200 --> 00:15:37,200 Speaker 1: catches and a big third down catch on the game 256 00:15:37,200 --> 00:15:40,000 Speaker 1: winning drive at the end. Is that the best feeling 257 00:15:40,080 --> 00:15:42,360 Speaker 1: in the world when the game is on the line 258 00:15:42,640 --> 00:15:46,040 Speaker 1: and your quarterback is looking for you always, you know. 259 00:15:46,160 --> 00:15:49,720 Speaker 1: But again, I've always been that guy, uh that came 260 00:15:49,760 --> 00:15:51,520 Speaker 1: through in the clutch, you know, in third downs and 261 00:15:51,680 --> 00:15:55,040 Speaker 1: fourth downs, you know, because um I just I just 262 00:15:55,080 --> 00:15:57,680 Speaker 1: I just do a good job of winning my rots, 263 00:15:57,720 --> 00:16:00,320 Speaker 1: you know. And in the quarterbacks trust me and they 264 00:16:00,400 --> 00:16:02,240 Speaker 1: know what we have when when when when we break 265 00:16:02,280 --> 00:16:04,320 Speaker 1: the hud on the defensive line up in a certain way, 266 00:16:04,640 --> 00:16:07,480 Speaker 1: but at any given moment of the field, every time 267 00:16:07,680 --> 00:16:10,720 Speaker 1: a third, third down or sprucial time. I mean, that's 268 00:16:10,720 --> 00:16:14,240 Speaker 1: when the stars shot the most, the brightest, you know. 269 00:16:14,280 --> 00:16:16,800 Speaker 1: And I was gonna be the guy when my numbers called. 270 00:16:16,800 --> 00:16:19,320 Speaker 1: I want to make each and every player, you know, 271 00:16:19,400 --> 00:16:21,400 Speaker 1: regardless of what the situation is. But when the big 272 00:16:21,440 --> 00:16:24,760 Speaker 1: situation is always the best feeling, because that's when show 273 00:16:24,800 --> 00:16:27,120 Speaker 1: you what type player you are. You are miked up 274 00:16:27,120 --> 00:16:30,120 Speaker 1: for sound last week. He probably forget about it during 275 00:16:30,200 --> 00:16:32,920 Speaker 1: the game. But then at the end of the game, 276 00:16:33,120 --> 00:16:35,400 Speaker 1: when it's a great game, are you excited to go 277 00:16:35,440 --> 00:16:39,480 Speaker 1: back and listen to the sound. Absolutely, because I remember 278 00:16:39,520 --> 00:16:42,120 Speaker 1: being told I was gonna be miked up, but I 279 00:16:42,160 --> 00:16:45,800 Speaker 1: didn't get the refresher going out there, so I didn't 280 00:16:45,840 --> 00:16:47,680 Speaker 1: get the warring guys. But I don't think there's nothing 281 00:16:47,720 --> 00:16:51,160 Speaker 1: going on crazy. But yeah, it's always fun, especially the 282 00:16:51,240 --> 00:16:54,480 Speaker 1: guy that's being miked up that's having a big game, 283 00:16:54,600 --> 00:16:56,720 Speaker 1: you know, and see how his his emotion is and 284 00:16:58,000 --> 00:16:59,600 Speaker 1: how MPEd up he is, you know. So I think 285 00:16:59,600 --> 00:17:02,040 Speaker 1: I think I had good stuff on there. We're chatting 286 00:17:02,080 --> 00:17:04,240 Speaker 1: with Tyler Boy. This is your second year with Joe 287 00:17:04,240 --> 00:17:07,480 Speaker 1: Burrow at quarterback. Do your wide receiver buddies around the 288 00:17:07,560 --> 00:17:10,240 Speaker 1: league asking about Joe and if Sell, what do you say? 289 00:17:11,119 --> 00:17:13,480 Speaker 1: I think Joe gets so much respect to running league. 290 00:17:13,480 --> 00:17:16,639 Speaker 1: You know, every guy, every team has so much respect 291 00:17:16,640 --> 00:17:18,600 Speaker 1: for him and know what he's capable of. You know, 292 00:17:19,480 --> 00:17:21,919 Speaker 1: his numbers speak for it all. He's a sound player, 293 00:17:21,920 --> 00:17:25,159 Speaker 1: he's smart, he gets it, gets in the best situations 294 00:17:25,160 --> 00:17:27,680 Speaker 1: possible every time. You know, and uh, I mean guys 295 00:17:27,760 --> 00:17:29,879 Speaker 1: don't really ask too much because because they know. You know, 296 00:17:30,000 --> 00:17:33,560 Speaker 1: it's like he's almost as of Aaron Rodger Tom Brady 297 00:17:33,640 --> 00:17:35,680 Speaker 1: level with respect, you know, but not quite there yet, 298 00:17:35,720 --> 00:17:38,280 Speaker 1: but just filling him go out there and just knowing 299 00:17:38,320 --> 00:17:40,400 Speaker 1: he can just take over a game at any given moment. 300 00:17:40,400 --> 00:17:42,840 Speaker 1: You know, it's scary for for any team. So I 301 00:17:42,920 --> 00:17:46,080 Speaker 1: think the whole league respects him. It doesn't seem that 302 00:17:46,119 --> 00:17:48,919 Speaker 1: long ago to me. Where you are the youngster in 303 00:17:48,960 --> 00:17:51,439 Speaker 1: a wide receiver room with guys like AJ Green and 304 00:17:51,480 --> 00:17:54,639 Speaker 1: Brandon LaFell. Now you're the VET with more than eighty 305 00:17:54,640 --> 00:17:57,440 Speaker 1: games of NFL experience under your belt. Does that change 306 00:17:57,440 --> 00:18:00,879 Speaker 1: anything for you? Not really, just only in terms of 307 00:18:00,880 --> 00:18:05,080 Speaker 1: my leadership because I hadn't seen it all, you know, 308 00:18:05,119 --> 00:18:07,520 Speaker 1: I can I can help guy guys down the right 309 00:18:07,560 --> 00:18:10,080 Speaker 1: path because I haven't been through it all. You know. 310 00:18:10,080 --> 00:18:12,400 Speaker 1: I've been through having a great season. I've been through 311 00:18:12,400 --> 00:18:14,640 Speaker 1: the season where I felt like I wasn't a part 312 00:18:14,640 --> 00:18:16,800 Speaker 1: of it. I didn't feel like I was wanted things 313 00:18:16,800 --> 00:18:20,000 Speaker 1: like that. But I mean I had to deal with 314 00:18:20,040 --> 00:18:22,240 Speaker 1: Fight University my whole life, you know, So just being 315 00:18:22,280 --> 00:18:24,880 Speaker 1: able to be that guy, the vet core guy who've 316 00:18:24,920 --> 00:18:27,000 Speaker 1: been there and done it and seen it in every 317 00:18:27,040 --> 00:18:30,440 Speaker 1: perspective from the practice squad who're not playing games to 318 00:18:30,520 --> 00:18:32,800 Speaker 1: being active to being a guy, a core guy in 319 00:18:32,840 --> 00:18:35,239 Speaker 1: the office, you know, so I could give so much 320 00:18:35,320 --> 00:18:38,840 Speaker 1: intel to the younger guys and guys who's still waiting 321 00:18:38,840 --> 00:18:41,880 Speaker 1: on the opportunity to just stay of course and just work. 322 00:18:42,160 --> 00:18:43,600 Speaker 1: You know. So, I think I did a good job 323 00:18:43,600 --> 00:18:45,640 Speaker 1: of just keeping guys up and motivating them and wanting 324 00:18:45,640 --> 00:18:48,680 Speaker 1: to be here. You dominated the first meeting forty one 325 00:18:48,720 --> 00:18:51,959 Speaker 1: to seventeen. Joe Burrow had four hundred and sixteen passing 326 00:18:52,000 --> 00:18:54,440 Speaker 1: yards at the end of the third quarter. Does that 327 00:18:54,520 --> 00:18:59,440 Speaker 1: mean anything? This Sunday. Um, just depending on how they 328 00:18:59,440 --> 00:19:00,800 Speaker 1: want to come out of play us. You know, I 329 00:19:00,880 --> 00:19:04,080 Speaker 1: knew Joe was gonna have a huge game because uh 330 00:19:04,119 --> 00:19:07,760 Speaker 1: they're del their defensive structure based off a lot of 331 00:19:07,760 --> 00:19:10,760 Speaker 1: blitzing and and went on one because they trust their corner. 332 00:19:10,760 --> 00:19:12,760 Speaker 1: They have real talent talents at corners, so they can 333 00:19:12,840 --> 00:19:15,600 Speaker 1: do that, you know. But um we we we believe 334 00:19:15,640 --> 00:19:17,000 Speaker 1: in our guys too. We feel like we got the 335 00:19:17,000 --> 00:19:19,320 Speaker 1: best weapons and if teams went the man ass up, 336 00:19:19,359 --> 00:19:20,879 Speaker 1: I think that's when we have our best games. I 337 00:19:20,920 --> 00:19:23,920 Speaker 1: saw our receivers to catch the ball and make a play, 338 00:19:24,200 --> 00:19:26,280 Speaker 1: you know. But um we we always go out there 339 00:19:26,280 --> 00:19:29,080 Speaker 1: expecting uh Joe to have a huge game, you know, 340 00:19:29,200 --> 00:19:32,080 Speaker 1: no matter what. Even last week, I felt like he 341 00:19:32,119 --> 00:19:33,919 Speaker 1: had one of the best games, you know, despite him 342 00:19:33,960 --> 00:19:35,960 Speaker 1: not having a yardage, you know, just all the little 343 00:19:35,960 --> 00:19:38,520 Speaker 1: things of him creating plays with his legs, you know, 344 00:19:38,600 --> 00:19:41,679 Speaker 1: just keeping us manageable and downs and just getting us 345 00:19:41,680 --> 00:19:43,560 Speaker 1: first downs when guys was an oprah they and they 346 00:19:43,600 --> 00:19:45,399 Speaker 1: played us played well on the back end, you know, 347 00:19:45,440 --> 00:19:48,880 Speaker 1: so he always uh figures a way to to to 348 00:19:49,080 --> 00:19:52,120 Speaker 1: keep the ball rolling, to to move a chance. Last 349 00:19:52,119 --> 00:19:54,879 Speaker 1: thing for Tyler Boyd on Christmas morning, there are a 350 00:19:54,880 --> 00:19:56,720 Speaker 1: bunch of kids that are gonna get out, They're gonna 351 00:19:56,800 --> 00:19:59,000 Speaker 1: rip open their package and they're gonna see a Tyler 352 00:19:59,080 --> 00:20:02,560 Speaker 1: Boyd jersey New Bengals jersey that they had on their 353 00:20:02,600 --> 00:20:06,000 Speaker 1: wish list. Do you ever think about stuff like that? Absolutely? 354 00:20:06,040 --> 00:20:09,200 Speaker 1: He knows so so much. It's so aspiring to me, Uh, 355 00:20:09,680 --> 00:20:13,640 Speaker 1: to know kids is looking up to me and care 356 00:20:13,680 --> 00:20:16,240 Speaker 1: about me that much, you know, to want to ask 357 00:20:16,240 --> 00:20:18,200 Speaker 1: their parents for a Tyler boy jersey because I was 358 00:20:18,240 --> 00:20:20,600 Speaker 1: once a kid, you know, asking for a certain players jerseys, 359 00:20:20,640 --> 00:20:24,120 Speaker 1: in particular Ladanian Thomainson that was that was my my guy. 360 00:20:24,200 --> 00:20:26,600 Speaker 1: You know, I loved him. I had probably all different 361 00:20:26,600 --> 00:20:28,679 Speaker 1: colors of his jerseys, you know. So I know the 362 00:20:28,720 --> 00:20:31,600 Speaker 1: feeling of how excited kids be wanting to get their 363 00:20:31,600 --> 00:20:33,720 Speaker 1: their favorite players jersey. But it's just an awesome feeling 364 00:20:33,720 --> 00:20:37,600 Speaker 1: now that um, kids want to want my jersey, you know, 365 00:20:37,640 --> 00:20:39,840 Speaker 1: because I haven't. I haven't been through that, and it's 366 00:20:39,840 --> 00:20:43,080 Speaker 1: just just just an awesome feeling. Merry Christmas, best of 367 00:20:43,160 --> 00:20:45,119 Speaker 1: luck on Sunday and the rest of the year. Appreciate you. 368 00:20:45,200 --> 00:20:48,880 Speaker 1: Thanks for having me The Bengals Booth Podcast. Who's presented 369 00:20:48,880 --> 00:20:52,280 Speaker 1: by Ultimate Bengals, the free to play fantasy football game. 370 00:20:52,720 --> 00:20:55,439 Speaker 1: Ultimate Bengals will be awarding a weekly winner during the 371 00:20:55,440 --> 00:20:59,639 Speaker 1: course of the season with tickets, autographed merchandise, and money. 372 00:20:59,680 --> 00:21:03,600 Speaker 1: Can't my experience is all up for grabs. Find Ultimate 373 00:21:03,600 --> 00:21:07,680 Speaker 1: Bengals in the App Store and Google Play. Now time 374 00:21:07,720 --> 00:21:12,520 Speaker 1: for my weekly chat with my broadcast partner Dave Lapham Lapp. 375 00:21:12,520 --> 00:21:14,919 Speaker 1: In your ten years as an NFL player, there were 376 00:21:15,040 --> 00:21:17,760 Speaker 1: years where the Bengals were in contention, highlighted by the 377 00:21:17,840 --> 00:21:20,640 Speaker 1: nineteen eighty one Super Bowl run, and there were years 378 00:21:20,640 --> 00:21:23,000 Speaker 1: where you had no chance at this time of the year. 379 00:21:23,560 --> 00:21:26,720 Speaker 1: Can you describe the impact of being in the hunt 380 00:21:27,280 --> 00:21:34,440 Speaker 1: in such a physically demanding sport. Yeah, it's actually it's thrilling, 381 00:21:34,520 --> 00:21:38,680 Speaker 1: you know, being in the hunt. It um, it makes 382 00:21:38,720 --> 00:21:42,080 Speaker 1: it all worthwhile, you know, all the all the physical 383 00:21:42,240 --> 00:21:45,399 Speaker 1: and mental anguish that can go along with playing the 384 00:21:45,440 --> 00:21:50,000 Speaker 1: game of football. That's why it's it's so tough to 385 00:21:50,000 --> 00:21:52,520 Speaker 1: to keep grinding when you're out of it. I mean, 386 00:21:52,520 --> 00:21:55,520 Speaker 1: that's that's a tough dynamic. It's it's very easy to 387 00:21:56,400 --> 00:21:59,320 Speaker 1: get yourself ready to play when you go to bed 388 00:21:59,359 --> 00:22:01,520 Speaker 1: at night, to the football games you're not a store 389 00:22:01,600 --> 00:22:03,360 Speaker 1: when you wake up the next morning, you're not quite 390 00:22:03,400 --> 00:22:07,240 Speaker 1: a store. You're just you're excited about the game plan 391 00:22:07,480 --> 00:22:09,960 Speaker 1: coming up. You can't wait to get the game plan 392 00:22:10,040 --> 00:22:13,160 Speaker 1: coming up. You do extra, you know, and to prepare 393 00:22:13,200 --> 00:22:16,919 Speaker 1: yourself to plan that football game. It's just that the 394 00:22:17,040 --> 00:22:20,320 Speaker 1: ripple effect in a positive way is very very good, 395 00:22:20,800 --> 00:22:22,840 Speaker 1: and the ripple effect in a negative way when you're 396 00:22:22,880 --> 00:22:25,000 Speaker 1: out of it is you're always fighting to try to 397 00:22:25,600 --> 00:22:27,959 Speaker 1: do everything you possibly can. You know, you know that 398 00:22:28,000 --> 00:22:31,160 Speaker 1: you're getting paid to play. You know you're being evaluated. 399 00:22:32,000 --> 00:22:34,000 Speaker 1: You don't want to be labeled a front runner. You 400 00:22:34,000 --> 00:22:36,520 Speaker 1: don't want to be labeled a guy that, oh yeah 401 00:22:36,560 --> 00:22:39,359 Speaker 1: he plays well, he plays hard when they're in the hunt, 402 00:22:39,359 --> 00:22:42,520 Speaker 1: but man, he's a dog when they're not. That to 403 00:22:42,600 --> 00:22:47,480 Speaker 1: me was as big a motivation as anything. I didn't 404 00:22:47,480 --> 00:22:51,160 Speaker 1: want to have tape out there where people could even 405 00:22:51,240 --> 00:22:53,959 Speaker 1: think about saying, oh, man, look at look at this 406 00:22:53,960 --> 00:22:56,360 Speaker 1: guy dogging it, you know, because they've only won three 407 00:22:56,400 --> 00:22:58,600 Speaker 1: games or whatever the case might be. That was a 408 00:22:58,640 --> 00:23:01,439 Speaker 1: big motivator to me. Didn't want to be labeled a dog. 409 00:23:02,840 --> 00:23:04,920 Speaker 1: So this is year two of the Joe Burrow era. 410 00:23:05,200 --> 00:23:07,600 Speaker 1: This team won four games and tied one a year ago. 411 00:23:08,040 --> 00:23:10,680 Speaker 1: Do you look at the Bengals essentially being a year 412 00:23:10,720 --> 00:23:15,879 Speaker 1: ahead of schedule? Honestly? Yeah. I Mean when everybody says, 413 00:23:15,960 --> 00:23:18,320 Speaker 1: you know, before the season, what do you think, you know, 414 00:23:19,040 --> 00:23:20,920 Speaker 1: what do you think best case scenario? And my best 415 00:23:20,960 --> 00:23:23,520 Speaker 1: case scenario I had them winning seven or eight games, 416 00:23:23,520 --> 00:23:25,680 Speaker 1: you know, that was and they're there, They've already they've 417 00:23:25,680 --> 00:23:28,919 Speaker 1: already hit my high water mark. So I'd have to 418 00:23:28,960 --> 00:23:33,720 Speaker 1: honestly say that, you know, I would say that they're 419 00:23:34,080 --> 00:23:35,760 Speaker 1: they're ahead of schedule. I mean, they get off to 420 00:23:35,800 --> 00:23:40,480 Speaker 1: that five and two start was really pretty pretty dynamic, 421 00:23:40,600 --> 00:23:43,520 Speaker 1: and I thought, man, they may be way out a schedule, 422 00:23:44,040 --> 00:23:46,760 Speaker 1: and you know, there's peaks and valleys, ebbs and flows 423 00:23:46,760 --> 00:23:50,040 Speaker 1: to every season. But I do think that some of 424 00:23:50,040 --> 00:23:54,040 Speaker 1: the young players are playing a beyond and above and 425 00:23:54,080 --> 00:23:57,439 Speaker 1: beyond their experience level, you know, And that's a tribute 426 00:23:57,480 --> 00:24:03,040 Speaker 1: to them, guys coaching them, support staffs, whatever they may be. 427 00:24:03,680 --> 00:24:07,680 Speaker 1: And that's at every level, you know. And people think, I, Yeah, 428 00:24:07,680 --> 00:24:11,600 Speaker 1: that's that's just that's trite. It's really not. I mean, 429 00:24:11,640 --> 00:24:13,880 Speaker 1: to get through a season, you need the training staff, 430 00:24:13,920 --> 00:24:16,520 Speaker 1: you need the strength and conditioning staff, you need everybody 431 00:24:17,040 --> 00:24:21,919 Speaker 1: and UM, so everybody shares in the successes and everybody 432 00:24:21,960 --> 00:24:24,600 Speaker 1: shares in the failures. There's no doubt they won a 433 00:24:24,680 --> 00:24:26,840 Speaker 1: road game last week against the team that had a 434 00:24:26,840 --> 00:24:30,080 Speaker 1: winning record with Fred Johnson at right tackle and for 435 00:24:30,119 --> 00:24:32,679 Speaker 1: the most of the game Jackson Carmen at right guard. 436 00:24:33,000 --> 00:24:36,760 Speaker 1: What did those guys show you? They showed me that UM, 437 00:24:37,119 --> 00:24:40,600 Speaker 1: that they were paying attention to their coach, Frank Pollock, 438 00:24:41,119 --> 00:24:44,640 Speaker 1: and that they were getting themselves ready to play. UM. 439 00:24:45,400 --> 00:24:49,960 Speaker 1: And I remember very vividly as a rookie, Tiger Johnson, 440 00:24:50,160 --> 00:24:53,639 Speaker 1: my offensive line coach, said said every week I was 441 00:24:53,720 --> 00:24:57,199 Speaker 1: playing in games that you know he was. He was 442 00:24:57,240 --> 00:24:59,520 Speaker 1: getting me experienced. I wasn't starting as a rookie, but 443 00:24:59,560 --> 00:25:02,320 Speaker 1: I was an experience. Whenever he could, he would put 444 00:25:02,320 --> 00:25:03,879 Speaker 1: me in a game. And sometimes he'd put me in 445 00:25:03,880 --> 00:25:06,120 Speaker 1: a game where the game was still on the line. 446 00:25:06,440 --> 00:25:08,840 Speaker 1: There were meaningful snaps instead of mop up dude to 447 00:25:08,880 --> 00:25:11,159 Speaker 1: either up by you know, two scores or more, or 448 00:25:11,200 --> 00:25:14,160 Speaker 1: down by two scores or more. And and he said, 449 00:25:14,240 --> 00:25:18,280 Speaker 1: you know this, this process is part of getting you ready. 450 00:25:18,440 --> 00:25:20,680 Speaker 1: You're one snap away from being a starting you know 451 00:25:20,800 --> 00:25:23,680 Speaker 1: linement in the National Football leaven and we got to 452 00:25:23,760 --> 00:25:26,080 Speaker 1: count on you. Your teammates counting on you, the Coade, 453 00:25:26,080 --> 00:25:29,679 Speaker 1: everybody's counting on you. So I know what that's like 454 00:25:30,280 --> 00:25:33,800 Speaker 1: when you're not necessarily getting you know, tons of snaps 455 00:25:33,840 --> 00:25:36,240 Speaker 1: on game day other than special teams and a few 456 00:25:36,280 --> 00:25:39,000 Speaker 1: snaps here and there. I know what that can be like. 457 00:25:39,480 --> 00:25:42,159 Speaker 1: And in order to keep yourself ready, you really have 458 00:25:42,200 --> 00:25:45,119 Speaker 1: to push yourself to keep yourself ready both mentally and 459 00:25:45,119 --> 00:25:49,040 Speaker 1: then because you don't get real a lot of snaps, 460 00:25:49,080 --> 00:25:51,480 Speaker 1: particularly now the way they practiced, you get no snaps. 461 00:25:51,640 --> 00:25:54,320 Speaker 1: I mean we at least had. It was never live, 462 00:25:54,880 --> 00:25:57,320 Speaker 1: you know, in terms of tackling and all that, but 463 00:25:57,400 --> 00:25:59,600 Speaker 1: it was pretty They called it thump drill where it 464 00:25:59,640 --> 00:26:02,800 Speaker 1: was live in the line of scrim between offensive and 465 00:26:03,040 --> 00:26:05,560 Speaker 1: defensive lineman. Just don't take running backs to the ground. 466 00:26:06,040 --> 00:26:08,600 Speaker 1: So I would get pretty you know, close to game 467 00:26:08,640 --> 00:26:11,760 Speaker 1: speed reps going against guys like Mike Read, you know, 468 00:26:12,160 --> 00:26:14,680 Speaker 1: and guys like that. They were like, oh man, this 469 00:26:14,760 --> 00:26:18,320 Speaker 1: is this is a big level of football. So getting 470 00:26:18,320 --> 00:26:22,840 Speaker 1: yourself is ready mentally and physically, h and preparing yourself 471 00:26:22,920 --> 00:26:26,520 Speaker 1: for all the goals with it on a everyday basis 472 00:26:26,800 --> 00:26:30,920 Speaker 1: can be challenging. And they showed that they were they 473 00:26:30,920 --> 00:26:33,840 Speaker 1: had done something when they went in there. As as 474 00:26:33,840 --> 00:26:37,359 Speaker 1: Paul Brown used to say, it wasn't too big for you. 475 00:26:37,359 --> 00:26:39,680 Speaker 1: You know, when you got your when you get your opportunity, 476 00:26:40,240 --> 00:26:42,400 Speaker 1: you showed that you belonged. You showed that you could 477 00:26:42,480 --> 00:26:45,199 Speaker 1: play in this league. And that's the first step for 478 00:26:45,280 --> 00:26:49,399 Speaker 1: any any young football player, for sure. The Bengals have 479 00:26:49,680 --> 00:26:52,920 Speaker 1: largely been healthy this year, certainly in comparison to most 480 00:26:52,920 --> 00:26:55,240 Speaker 1: teams around the NFL. But the one spot where the 481 00:26:55,280 --> 00:26:58,880 Speaker 1: injuries are piling up is linebacker. Jordan Evans went down 482 00:26:58,960 --> 00:27:01,680 Speaker 1: a game, Davis Gaither went down, Logan Wilson is still 483 00:27:01,680 --> 00:27:06,000 Speaker 1: out now, Joe Bacci unfortunately towards ACL You've got your 484 00:27:06,040 --> 00:27:09,200 Speaker 1: main Pratt and Marcus Bailey left, and then a bunch 485 00:27:09,240 --> 00:27:11,080 Speaker 1: of guys who were either on the practice squad or 486 00:27:11,119 --> 00:27:13,879 Speaker 1: have been picked up off waivers from other teams. Have 487 00:27:14,000 --> 00:27:16,439 Speaker 1: the Bengals reached the point where it's a problem or 488 00:27:16,480 --> 00:27:19,680 Speaker 1: are they still one injury away from it being a problem. 489 00:27:20,760 --> 00:27:24,760 Speaker 1: They're They're very convinced and feel good about the guys 490 00:27:24,800 --> 00:27:26,840 Speaker 1: they've got. They feel like the guys that they've got 491 00:27:26,840 --> 00:27:30,560 Speaker 1: are here for a reason. But let's think back for 492 00:27:30,680 --> 00:27:34,560 Speaker 1: the Baltimore game is a great example, forty one seventeen victory. 493 00:27:35,160 --> 00:27:39,520 Speaker 1: The three guys that you talked about being injured, Evans, Davis, Gaither, 494 00:27:40,000 --> 00:27:43,760 Speaker 1: Logan Wilson were huge in that football Remember they went 495 00:27:43,800 --> 00:27:46,199 Speaker 1: with that four fourth scheme sum and they had a 496 00:27:46,200 --> 00:27:51,200 Speaker 1: fourth linebacker in there, and Pratt was that guy, and 497 00:27:51,240 --> 00:27:55,639 Speaker 1: he was involved. They were liberally using four linebackers throughout 498 00:27:55,680 --> 00:27:58,920 Speaker 1: the course of that football game. The lonesome soldier left 499 00:27:59,000 --> 00:28:04,200 Speaker 1: is Pratt. So man, the linebackers were instrumental in what 500 00:28:04,480 --> 00:28:08,560 Speaker 1: Louiana Rumo devised with his assistance to to stop Lamar 501 00:28:08,640 --> 00:28:12,760 Speaker 1: Jackson and leverage you know, the quarterback with a down 502 00:28:12,800 --> 00:28:15,760 Speaker 1: lineman and a linebacker, two linebackers, whatever the case may be, 503 00:28:16,080 --> 00:28:19,240 Speaker 1: Mark Andrews leveraging him with a linebacker and a safety 504 00:28:19,280 --> 00:28:23,960 Speaker 1: or those linebackers were big in the in the overall 505 00:28:24,000 --> 00:28:27,040 Speaker 1: result of that football game, winning by twenty four points, 506 00:28:27,480 --> 00:28:29,600 Speaker 1: and they could all run, you know. I mean, that's 507 00:28:29,680 --> 00:28:32,960 Speaker 1: that's the thing. So will Louanna rum will have to 508 00:28:33,000 --> 00:28:35,920 Speaker 1: tweak what he did, how he did it, who he's 509 00:28:35,920 --> 00:28:37,879 Speaker 1: doing it with. Obviously, he's gonna have to tweak who 510 00:28:37,920 --> 00:28:40,320 Speaker 1: he's doing it with. But I'm saying, will it be 511 00:28:40,800 --> 00:28:44,200 Speaker 1: another position group. Will more safeties be involved in the 512 00:28:44,200 --> 00:28:47,960 Speaker 1: package than linebackers? Um, you know, you get long range 513 00:28:48,040 --> 00:28:50,960 Speaker 1: e safeties that that can that can be a factor. 514 00:28:51,000 --> 00:28:53,240 Speaker 1: I mean Michael Thomas has got some some length and 515 00:28:53,320 --> 00:28:56,640 Speaker 1: some range to him. Trey Flowers at corner, they've played 516 00:28:56,720 --> 00:28:58,840 Speaker 1: him on tight end some. You know, he may be 517 00:28:58,880 --> 00:29:02,960 Speaker 1: a guy that's uh in a package covering Mark Andrews, 518 00:29:03,160 --> 00:29:06,560 Speaker 1: not solo, maybe some solo. It's going to be interesting 519 00:29:06,600 --> 00:29:09,840 Speaker 1: to see what Louiana Ruma does, what he and his 520 00:29:09,840 --> 00:29:14,720 Speaker 1: coaching staff cook up, because it's not going to be 521 00:29:14,760 --> 00:29:17,160 Speaker 1: the exact same recipe because they don't have the exact 522 00:29:17,160 --> 00:29:22,400 Speaker 1: same ingredients. So they're making a little alteration to the 523 00:29:22,920 --> 00:29:26,120 Speaker 1: recipe as they get ready for this one. Let's look 524 00:29:26,160 --> 00:29:28,360 Speaker 1: at the other side of the ball. In that first game, 525 00:29:28,440 --> 00:29:31,040 Speaker 1: Joe Burrow threw for four hundred and sixteen yards and 526 00:29:31,120 --> 00:29:32,720 Speaker 1: that was at the end of the third quarter. He 527 00:29:32,760 --> 00:29:35,440 Speaker 1: didn't even have to complete a pass in the fourth. What, 528 00:29:35,560 --> 00:29:38,240 Speaker 1: if anything can they take from that game and use 529 00:29:38,280 --> 00:29:41,600 Speaker 1: in game two. Well, the one thing that happened in 530 00:29:41,600 --> 00:29:45,640 Speaker 1: that football game that was stunning were the explosives. I mean, 531 00:29:45,680 --> 00:29:48,840 Speaker 1: the Bengals went minus one. They had the only turnover 532 00:29:49,280 --> 00:29:52,480 Speaker 1: the Ravens did not have a turnover played in Baltimore, 533 00:29:52,880 --> 00:29:54,840 Speaker 1: had forty one hung on him and lost by twenty 534 00:29:54,840 --> 00:29:58,600 Speaker 1: four points. I mean, that just doesn't even compute. That's 535 00:29:58,640 --> 00:30:01,960 Speaker 1: not the Ravens that you know, you know, and you've 536 00:30:01,960 --> 00:30:06,120 Speaker 1: seen execute over the over the years. So the big 537 00:30:06,200 --> 00:30:09,880 Speaker 1: component in that was the explosives. At eighty two yard touchdown, 538 00:30:10,200 --> 00:30:15,640 Speaker 1: a fifty plus yard touchdown catch by C. J. P 539 00:30:15,840 --> 00:30:19,120 Speaker 1: Ryan goes forty six, Mixing goes twenty one. That's that's 540 00:30:19,160 --> 00:30:21,560 Speaker 1: in the fourth quarter. That's when they start pulling away. 541 00:30:21,880 --> 00:30:24,960 Speaker 1: So I mean they had like nine explosives of thirty 542 00:30:25,000 --> 00:30:28,760 Speaker 1: yards and war in that football game. Crazy, and I 543 00:30:28,840 --> 00:30:32,520 Speaker 1: don't think you can expect to duplicate that. I just 544 00:30:32,560 --> 00:30:35,960 Speaker 1: don't see that happening twice. I mean, well over five 545 00:30:36,040 --> 00:30:39,400 Speaker 1: hundred yards offense and forty one points against against that 546 00:30:39,480 --> 00:30:43,920 Speaker 1: football team. It was a case of Murphy's Law for them. 547 00:30:43,960 --> 00:30:47,080 Speaker 1: If it could go wrong, it did and it's snowballed 548 00:30:47,120 --> 00:30:49,160 Speaker 1: on them. And I think they're going to be a 549 00:30:49,240 --> 00:30:52,760 Speaker 1: much different defensive unit, in a much different mindset, and 550 00:30:52,800 --> 00:30:55,520 Speaker 1: a much different football team. I mean, honestly, I remember 551 00:30:56,000 --> 00:30:58,480 Speaker 1: I was stunned Dan when in the fourth quarter of 552 00:30:58,480 --> 00:31:02,480 Speaker 1: their fans started leaving place, emptied out, and they looked 553 00:31:02,520 --> 00:31:04,960 Speaker 1: like they weren't interested in finishing the football game. I mean, 554 00:31:05,000 --> 00:31:08,360 Speaker 1: they did not play raven football, you know, in that 555 00:31:08,440 --> 00:31:10,760 Speaker 1: fourth quarter. I was like, Wow, my jaw was dropping 556 00:31:10,800 --> 00:31:14,040 Speaker 1: over what I was seeing out there. So I think 557 00:31:14,040 --> 00:31:16,560 Speaker 1: that they're gonna watch that tape, and like I said, 558 00:31:17,640 --> 00:31:19,719 Speaker 1: when you're prideful, it's like you don't want to have 559 00:31:19,760 --> 00:31:21,960 Speaker 1: that kind of tape out there going around the league. 560 00:31:22,520 --> 00:31:26,080 Speaker 1: So I think they're gonna be coming back with a vengeance. 561 00:31:26,280 --> 00:31:29,880 Speaker 1: I think they're gonna play extremely hard in this football game, 562 00:31:30,080 --> 00:31:32,560 Speaker 1: and the Bengals are too. And I'm not saying that 563 00:31:32,920 --> 00:31:36,200 Speaker 1: you know that the Bengals can't match that intensity. They're 564 00:31:36,200 --> 00:31:38,600 Speaker 1: gonna have to though. They're gonna have to because in 565 00:31:38,640 --> 00:31:40,680 Speaker 1: my mind, I'm not saying they're gonna be desperate. They're 566 00:31:40,720 --> 00:31:44,720 Speaker 1: gonna be playing with desperation, but in acute sense of urgency. 567 00:31:45,040 --> 00:31:47,920 Speaker 1: Let's put it that way, no question about it. I've 568 00:31:47,960 --> 00:31:50,800 Speaker 1: always liked and respected John Harbaugh, going back to when 569 00:31:50,840 --> 00:31:53,120 Speaker 1: he was the assistant head coach at the University of 570 00:31:53,160 --> 00:31:56,120 Speaker 1: Cincinnati under Rick Minter. But it's gone up a notch 571 00:31:56,320 --> 00:31:58,840 Speaker 1: my respect level for him this year because of the injuries. 572 00:31:58,920 --> 00:32:01,640 Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson's missed the last game and a half. You 573 00:32:01,720 --> 00:32:03,560 Speaker 1: look at the guys on injured reserve, it's like an 574 00:32:03,560 --> 00:32:08,680 Speaker 1: all star team. Ronnie Stanley, Marcus Peters, JK. Dobbins, the 575 00:32:08,720 --> 00:32:10,920 Speaker 1: list goes on and on. How are they doing it? 576 00:32:12,320 --> 00:32:13,960 Speaker 1: Tell you you really have to tip your cap to 577 00:32:14,040 --> 00:32:18,440 Speaker 1: that entire organization because they've got a lot of players 578 00:32:18,880 --> 00:32:23,040 Speaker 1: depth at positions where they have the type person that 579 00:32:23,160 --> 00:32:26,160 Speaker 1: can play and execute the scheme that they've got out there. 580 00:32:26,760 --> 00:32:28,960 Speaker 1: You know, you look at the quarterback position, I mean 581 00:32:29,200 --> 00:32:31,320 Speaker 1: you know, it's it's not like they've gone from They've 582 00:32:31,360 --> 00:32:34,400 Speaker 1: gone from a freakish athlete. I mean, there's no question 583 00:32:34,440 --> 00:32:37,280 Speaker 1: about it. But this kid, Huntley, Tyler Huntley is a 584 00:32:37,280 --> 00:32:41,200 Speaker 1: good He was all packed twelve and he's he's not 585 00:32:42,680 --> 00:32:46,200 Speaker 1: He's a poor man's Lamar Jackson. I guess to an extent, 586 00:32:46,720 --> 00:32:49,320 Speaker 1: But it's not like usually when you have a quarterback 587 00:32:49,360 --> 00:32:52,800 Speaker 1: click like Lamar Jackson, if he goes down, you're installing 588 00:32:52,840 --> 00:32:55,840 Speaker 1: almost another offense. They don't have to. They can stay 589 00:32:55,880 --> 00:32:58,880 Speaker 1: with the exact same so they have pieces to the 590 00:32:58,880 --> 00:33:01,840 Speaker 1: puzzle mull whole pieces one goes they can replace with 591 00:33:01,920 --> 00:33:04,040 Speaker 1: another piece of the puzzle. Well, they don't have to 592 00:33:04,400 --> 00:33:07,280 Speaker 1: overhaul everything. And it's like, oh, now we can't do this. 593 00:33:07,520 --> 00:33:09,560 Speaker 1: We have to eliminate this package. We have to eliminate 594 00:33:09,600 --> 00:33:13,920 Speaker 1: that package. That's the thing that I think is very, 595 00:33:14,120 --> 00:33:18,920 Speaker 1: very praiseworthy is they know who they are, they know 596 00:33:18,960 --> 00:33:24,160 Speaker 1: what they do, and the organization personnel department everybody gets 597 00:33:24,160 --> 00:33:26,840 Speaker 1: players for the coaches that fit all of that, and 598 00:33:26,840 --> 00:33:30,240 Speaker 1: then the coaches coach them and develop them, and man, 599 00:33:31,080 --> 00:33:34,160 Speaker 1: there's nothing more satisfying to a coach. And I've heard 600 00:33:34,200 --> 00:33:35,920 Speaker 1: many coaches over the years, you know, when I was 601 00:33:35,960 --> 00:33:38,800 Speaker 1: playing and now doing the broadcast stuff, one of their 602 00:33:38,840 --> 00:33:45,360 Speaker 1: biggest feel good deals is you develop a player, he 603 00:33:45,360 --> 00:33:48,680 Speaker 1: gets a chance and it's like I was right, he 604 00:33:48,760 --> 00:33:51,720 Speaker 1: can do it. There's nothing better than that for coaches 605 00:33:51,760 --> 00:33:54,480 Speaker 1: to say I knew he could, I thought he could anyway, 606 00:33:55,000 --> 00:33:57,760 Speaker 1: Now I know he can, and that's a real good feeling. 607 00:33:57,800 --> 00:33:59,600 Speaker 1: Now we can depend on him. And that's what the 608 00:33:59,720 --> 00:34:02,280 Speaker 1: Raven have going on. They've they've got guys not just 609 00:34:02,440 --> 00:34:06,600 Speaker 1: next band up, but next band up and continue to 610 00:34:06,680 --> 00:34:08,760 Speaker 1: play at a high level for as long a period 611 00:34:08,760 --> 00:34:10,880 Speaker 1: of time as it's going to take. Um. You know, 612 00:34:11,040 --> 00:34:13,840 Speaker 1: I think I think a real good example is instead 613 00:34:13,840 --> 00:34:16,640 Speaker 1: of eliminating a package now, they decreased it when Ricard 614 00:34:16,680 --> 00:34:20,319 Speaker 1: went down. They decreased it because Nick Boyle was down 615 00:34:20,360 --> 00:34:22,640 Speaker 1: as well. But as soon as Nick Boyle came back healthy, 616 00:34:22,800 --> 00:34:25,120 Speaker 1: they have Nick Boyle lining up and doing the things 617 00:34:25,120 --> 00:34:27,239 Speaker 1: that Ricard was doing, a fullback, wing back, all that 618 00:34:27,280 --> 00:34:29,960 Speaker 1: sort of thing. Another big body guy. So it's like, 619 00:34:30,320 --> 00:34:33,000 Speaker 1: we have we have pieces we can move around. We 620 00:34:33,040 --> 00:34:37,080 Speaker 1: don't have to junk our entire system. You know, we 621 00:34:37,440 --> 00:34:39,920 Speaker 1: can still attack people the way we've done it and 622 00:34:40,040 --> 00:34:42,560 Speaker 1: the way we've done it successfully with the pieces that 623 00:34:42,600 --> 00:34:46,040 Speaker 1: we have left. So that's what John Harbon his staff 624 00:34:46,160 --> 00:34:49,960 Speaker 1: have done. Let's talk about Zach Taylor and the Bengal staff. 625 00:34:50,360 --> 00:34:52,400 Speaker 1: They're tied for first to three games to go. What 626 00:34:52,560 --> 00:34:54,960 Speaker 1: stands out about the job Zach and his staff have 627 00:34:55,040 --> 00:35:00,080 Speaker 1: done this year? You know, I think the steadiness of 628 00:35:00,120 --> 00:35:03,759 Speaker 1: the whole thing. And you say it again, all this 629 00:35:03,800 --> 00:35:08,680 Speaker 1: stuff sounds trite, but haven't been through it. It's easier 630 00:35:08,680 --> 00:35:13,759 Speaker 1: said than done. Everybody talks about doing it, but when 631 00:35:13,760 --> 00:35:19,719 Speaker 1: you lose a brutally tough football game. You can't hit 632 00:35:19,760 --> 00:35:22,080 Speaker 1: the basement or lower, you know, you just you can't 633 00:35:22,080 --> 00:35:24,960 Speaker 1: allow yourself to collapse like that emotionally, and they've done 634 00:35:25,000 --> 00:35:27,439 Speaker 1: a really good job of not letting that happen. When 635 00:35:27,480 --> 00:35:31,160 Speaker 1: you beat the Baltimore Ravens forty one seventeen, you can't 636 00:35:31,200 --> 00:35:34,880 Speaker 1: think we're the greatest thing since you know we're cream. 637 00:35:35,040 --> 00:35:38,759 Speaker 1: You know, it is unbelievable. The truth is, and I 638 00:35:38,800 --> 00:35:41,080 Speaker 1: believe in this axiom, You're never as good as you 639 00:35:41,080 --> 00:35:43,000 Speaker 1: think you are. You're never as bad as you think 640 00:35:43,040 --> 00:35:45,960 Speaker 1: you are. You are definitely somewhere in between. And if 641 00:35:46,000 --> 00:35:49,200 Speaker 1: you can realize on a week by week basis, if 642 00:35:49,239 --> 00:35:51,960 Speaker 1: you can stay at that not have huge peaks and valleys, 643 00:35:52,360 --> 00:35:55,680 Speaker 1: ups and downs, highs and lows, If you can be 644 00:35:56,080 --> 00:36:00,439 Speaker 1: you know, very consistent with your approach, with your level 645 00:36:00,440 --> 00:36:04,120 Speaker 1: of play, then coaches realize what to expect from players. 646 00:36:04,440 --> 00:36:07,480 Speaker 1: Players realize what to expect from coaches, And I think 647 00:36:07,520 --> 00:36:12,040 Speaker 1: the consistency of performance, you know, is the byproduct. And 648 00:36:12,120 --> 00:36:15,279 Speaker 1: I do think that for the most part they have 649 00:36:15,400 --> 00:36:17,799 Speaker 1: been they have been pretty consistent. Now, you know, it's 650 00:36:17,960 --> 00:36:22,480 Speaker 1: some games in the National Football League you're gonna the 651 00:36:22,480 --> 00:36:24,279 Speaker 1: bear is gonna get you, and you're gonna get the bear. 652 00:36:24,680 --> 00:36:29,200 Speaker 1: You're gonna get outplayed, and sometimes you're gonna outplay others. 653 00:36:30,520 --> 00:36:33,120 Speaker 1: In the National Football League, my experience in the league 654 00:36:33,239 --> 00:36:37,560 Speaker 1: was these guys are all so good. Everybody's capable of 655 00:36:37,640 --> 00:36:42,840 Speaker 1: making plays. Usually more games are lost than are one. 656 00:36:43,400 --> 00:36:47,040 Speaker 1: You have to make plays, but you have to avoid 657 00:36:47,040 --> 00:36:52,239 Speaker 1: the catastrophe. And when you don't avoid the catastrophe, it 658 00:36:52,600 --> 00:36:55,759 Speaker 1: shows it's ugly. You know you've got trouble. If you 659 00:36:55,800 --> 00:36:58,719 Speaker 1: avoid catastrophe and just hang in there make plays. At 660 00:36:58,760 --> 00:37:00,680 Speaker 1: some point, it's going to come down to the very 661 00:37:00,760 --> 00:37:02,319 Speaker 1: end of the football game, and the guy that makes 662 00:37:02,320 --> 00:37:04,480 Speaker 1: the last play wins. And that's how most games are. 663 00:37:04,560 --> 00:37:07,000 Speaker 1: High percentage of games and the National Football League have 664 00:37:07,040 --> 00:37:09,480 Speaker 1: decided by a touchdown or less for that very reason. 665 00:37:09,880 --> 00:37:13,799 Speaker 1: And so it's you just you just don't want to 666 00:37:14,320 --> 00:37:17,759 Speaker 1: put put yourself in a in a situation that's impossible 667 00:37:18,120 --> 00:37:21,800 Speaker 1: to recover from with some kind of deep inflicted wound. 668 00:37:23,440 --> 00:37:26,680 Speaker 1: One more coaching question and his Football Morning in America 669 00:37:26,719 --> 00:37:30,920 Speaker 1: column on Monday, Peter King mentioned the possibility of Marvin 670 00:37:31,000 --> 00:37:34,279 Speaker 1: Lewis becoming the next head coach in Jacksonville. What do 671 00:37:34,280 --> 00:37:37,960 Speaker 1: you think it makes pretty good sense. Really. You know, 672 00:37:38,200 --> 00:37:42,040 Speaker 1: one thing that Marvin Lewis can do and has done 673 00:37:42,400 --> 00:37:46,000 Speaker 1: and will continue to do is be a stabilizing influence. 674 00:37:46,480 --> 00:37:51,359 Speaker 1: He calms everything down, you know, he really does. And 675 00:37:51,520 --> 00:37:54,600 Speaker 1: we talk about that, even Keel approach, that that's that's 676 00:37:54,680 --> 00:37:58,520 Speaker 1: Marvin Lewis to a t. And he understands football. He 677 00:37:58,600 --> 00:38:03,840 Speaker 1: understands what he wants, how he wants the game to 678 00:38:03,920 --> 00:38:07,520 Speaker 1: be played with him as a head coach. And it 679 00:38:08,080 --> 00:38:10,920 Speaker 1: works in the National Football League. Five straight playoff appearances 680 00:38:10,920 --> 00:38:14,480 Speaker 1: here in Cincinnati. I mean, that's that's a pretty good testament. Now, 681 00:38:14,560 --> 00:38:16,960 Speaker 1: obviously it didn't work in the playoff games. Didn't win 682 00:38:17,000 --> 00:38:20,000 Speaker 1: a playoff game, lost seven of them, but got there 683 00:38:20,200 --> 00:38:25,600 Speaker 1: five straight times, franchise record. You know his mindset he is. 684 00:38:25,680 --> 00:38:28,560 Speaker 1: He's like a defensive mindset, There's no question about it, 685 00:38:28,920 --> 00:38:33,279 Speaker 1: and that his whole thing is plays sound offensively, don't 686 00:38:33,320 --> 00:38:35,680 Speaker 1: put your don't put the ball in jeopardy, don't put 687 00:38:35,680 --> 00:38:39,520 Speaker 1: your defense in jeopardy. Defense, play good, solid football, wait 688 00:38:39,600 --> 00:38:41,680 Speaker 1: for the others to make a mistake. You know, he's 689 00:38:42,320 --> 00:38:46,840 Speaker 1: Vic Fangio Marvin Lewis. They have the same type of mentality. Always. 690 00:38:47,000 --> 00:38:49,040 Speaker 1: We've got to win the turnover battle. I mean, all 691 00:38:49,080 --> 00:38:50,600 Speaker 1: he looked at the first thing he looked at when 692 00:38:50,600 --> 00:38:54,000 Speaker 1: the NFL statue came out was a turnover ratio to 693 00:38:54,200 --> 00:38:58,239 Speaker 1: the beginning of every single week. So um, you know, 694 00:38:58,280 --> 00:39:02,080 Speaker 1: he did a good job. And the Bengals drafting Carson 695 00:39:02,120 --> 00:39:05,080 Speaker 1: Palmer and him being the coach that developed Carson Palmer 696 00:39:05,080 --> 00:39:08,520 Speaker 1: in his early stages, he'd have the same opportunity. You know, 697 00:39:08,680 --> 00:39:13,000 Speaker 1: down there, Marvin Lewis is highly regarded. He'd be able 698 00:39:13,040 --> 00:39:15,400 Speaker 1: to put together a pretty good coaching staff, I think still, 699 00:39:15,880 --> 00:39:19,200 Speaker 1: so um, it makes it makes a lot of sense. 700 00:39:20,040 --> 00:39:24,840 Speaker 1: And I think he'd like the weather down there in Florida. 701 00:39:25,120 --> 00:39:28,480 Speaker 1: But he is still with the Arizona State. He's got 702 00:39:28,520 --> 00:39:32,879 Speaker 1: property in Arizona. His wife loves Arizona. It'll be interest, 703 00:39:32,880 --> 00:39:34,799 Speaker 1: it would be interesting to see. But I'll tell you what, 704 00:39:35,200 --> 00:39:38,839 Speaker 1: they could make a lot worse decisions down there than 705 00:39:38,960 --> 00:39:41,560 Speaker 1: hiring Marvin Lewis. I can tell you that by a wide, 706 00:39:41,600 --> 00:39:44,440 Speaker 1: wide margin. I hope he gets it. I'd love to 707 00:39:44,440 --> 00:39:46,480 Speaker 1: see him get one more opportunity, ye, And I think 708 00:39:46,640 --> 00:39:48,600 Speaker 1: I think you'd take it to I think I think 709 00:39:48,640 --> 00:39:50,600 Speaker 1: he'd like to. I think he'd like one more shot. 710 00:39:50,719 --> 00:39:54,759 Speaker 1: He's plenty young enough, plenty young enough. Yeah, Lapp and 711 00:39:54,840 --> 00:39:57,440 Speaker 1: I will have a special Christmas Eve edition of the 712 00:39:57,440 --> 00:40:00,480 Speaker 1: Bengals pep Rally Show coming up on Friday after from 713 00:40:00,520 --> 00:40:04,799 Speaker 1: three to six on ESPN fifteen thirty or you can 714 00:40:04,840 --> 00:40:09,040 Speaker 1: find it on the iHeartMedia app by searching for ESPN 715 00:40:09,400 --> 00:40:12,719 Speaker 1: fifteen thirty. Last, but not least, it's time for this 716 00:40:12,760 --> 00:40:15,800 Speaker 1: week's No the Faux Segment and our Ravens expert is 717 00:40:15,920 --> 00:40:19,799 Speaker 1: University of Cincinnati Hall of Famer Brad Jackson. Brad played 718 00:40:19,840 --> 00:40:23,200 Speaker 1: football at UC for Rick Minter and basketball for Bob 719 00:40:23,280 --> 00:40:26,960 Speaker 1: Huggins before winning a Super Bowl as a Ravens linebacker 720 00:40:27,320 --> 00:40:32,000 Speaker 1: under defensive coordinator Marvin Lewis. Brad joined Lapping Me this 721 00:40:32,040 --> 00:40:35,680 Speaker 1: week on the Bengals Game Plan Show. So let's talk 722 00:40:35,719 --> 00:40:39,320 Speaker 1: about the Ravens. I gotta tell you, Brad, they've earned 723 00:40:39,360 --> 00:40:42,319 Speaker 1: my respect even more than ever this year because the 724 00:40:42,400 --> 00:40:46,560 Speaker 1: injury situation is ridiculous. Lamar Jackson's missed the last game 725 00:40:46,560 --> 00:40:48,600 Speaker 1: and a half, Ronnie Stanley has been out. They lost 726 00:40:48,600 --> 00:40:51,200 Speaker 1: their top three running backs in training camp. They've got 727 00:40:51,239 --> 00:40:53,880 Speaker 1: two Pro Bowl cornerbacks who are both on injured reserve. 728 00:40:54,280 --> 00:40:59,160 Speaker 1: How is this team still tied for first place, considering 729 00:40:59,520 --> 00:41:02,920 Speaker 1: the asualties that they've had to deal with on that roster. 730 00:41:03,680 --> 00:41:06,000 Speaker 1: I think you have to look at that the parody 731 00:41:06,000 --> 00:41:09,319 Speaker 1: in the in the NFL, especially in the AMC. You 732 00:41:09,360 --> 00:41:11,400 Speaker 1: guys out there in Cincinnati, you know, you kind of 733 00:41:11,480 --> 00:41:14,359 Speaker 1: have a big win here way back in October, blow 734 00:41:14,360 --> 00:41:17,280 Speaker 1: out the Ravens, which kind of shocked everybody. I mean people, 735 00:41:17,640 --> 00:41:19,840 Speaker 1: we had to take people's shoelaces and belts for a 736 00:41:19,880 --> 00:41:22,359 Speaker 1: week out here after that loss. You know, the last 737 00:41:22,360 --> 00:41:25,200 Speaker 1: time I spoke with you guys, and you know the 738 00:41:25,239 --> 00:41:28,120 Speaker 1: way Joe Burrow played obviously in Jamar Chase, having you know, 739 00:41:28,160 --> 00:41:31,040 Speaker 1: two hundred yard plus a day, and so it was 740 00:41:31,080 --> 00:41:33,440 Speaker 1: one of those things that it kind of set the 741 00:41:33,440 --> 00:41:35,319 Speaker 1: guys back a little bit to say, you're not as 742 00:41:35,320 --> 00:41:37,680 Speaker 1: good as you thought you were. You were just going 743 00:41:37,719 --> 00:41:40,600 Speaker 1: to coast through. This isn't the same Bengals, you know, 744 00:41:40,680 --> 00:41:42,560 Speaker 1: so to speak in there, and we know that you 745 00:41:42,640 --> 00:41:44,359 Speaker 1: kind of see it. But when they had won five 746 00:41:44,440 --> 00:41:47,359 Speaker 1: in a row, you know, and this is still relatively 747 00:41:47,360 --> 00:41:50,400 Speaker 1: a young team, they're kind of like, oh, we're coasting along, 748 00:41:50,480 --> 00:41:52,879 Speaker 1: you know. And so I think between the Browns having 749 00:41:52,920 --> 00:41:56,160 Speaker 1: their issues. You know, you guys down there Cincinnati, the 750 00:41:56,160 --> 00:41:58,239 Speaker 1: Bengal was now being able to kind of get that 751 00:41:58,320 --> 00:42:01,280 Speaker 1: one or two extra wins. Obviously, league, you know people 752 00:42:01,320 --> 00:42:05,719 Speaker 1: out here are you know, talking about coach Hardball's decisions. 753 00:42:05,760 --> 00:42:07,880 Speaker 1: You know, two of the last three weeks in Pittsburgh 754 00:42:07,920 --> 00:42:09,480 Speaker 1: on the road and obviously at home to go for 755 00:42:09,600 --> 00:42:12,719 Speaker 1: two point conversions, versus used the best kicker in the 756 00:42:12,800 --> 00:42:15,480 Speaker 1: National Football League to tie up the game and go 757 00:42:15,520 --> 00:42:18,360 Speaker 1: into overtime. You know, one of those two could have 758 00:42:18,360 --> 00:42:20,319 Speaker 1: went either way. Now you have a two game lead, 759 00:42:20,400 --> 00:42:23,400 Speaker 1: and quite honestly, guys, considering if you look at what 760 00:42:23,480 --> 00:42:26,640 Speaker 1: happened the first six games and to where we are now, 761 00:42:27,200 --> 00:42:29,520 Speaker 1: once the Ravens came out of the buy and went 762 00:42:29,560 --> 00:42:33,120 Speaker 1: to Miami and then on that Thursday night game, you know, 763 00:42:33,160 --> 00:42:35,279 Speaker 1: they laid an egg and lost twenty two to ten 764 00:42:36,080 --> 00:42:38,360 Speaker 1: the Dolphins, and give them credit, kind of put a 765 00:42:38,400 --> 00:42:40,760 Speaker 1: playbook out there, and you guys both noticed from covering 766 00:42:41,160 --> 00:42:44,320 Speaker 1: covering the game. Once once that's out there, it's a 767 00:42:44,400 --> 00:42:47,840 Speaker 1: coffeecat league, and so you're seeing variations of that. And unfortunately, 768 00:42:47,880 --> 00:42:51,279 Speaker 1: offensively they haven't been able to overcome and make the 769 00:42:51,320 --> 00:42:55,520 Speaker 1: adjustments needed at key moments in times. And then quite frankly, 770 00:42:55,600 --> 00:42:59,239 Speaker 1: you know, we look at Lamark and he's dealing with 771 00:42:59,280 --> 00:43:01,279 Speaker 1: some injuries and ankle and so on so forth. The 772 00:43:01,360 --> 00:43:03,960 Speaker 1: last couple of games, but his first his games had 773 00:43:04,040 --> 00:43:07,040 Speaker 1: five interceptions and sixteen sacks, and they talked about at 774 00:43:07,040 --> 00:43:09,719 Speaker 1: the buys kind of getting those numbers down. But then 775 00:43:09,760 --> 00:43:12,279 Speaker 1: they come out of the buys and Lamar and the 776 00:43:12,440 --> 00:43:16,800 Speaker 1: last six games has had eight interceptions and twenty two sacks, 777 00:43:16,880 --> 00:43:20,839 Speaker 1: so he's almost quite came close to doubling those numbers up. 778 00:43:21,160 --> 00:43:22,840 Speaker 1: And right now he has thirty eight sacks on the 779 00:43:22,920 --> 00:43:26,879 Speaker 1: year and thirteen interceptions, so they're turning the football over. 780 00:43:27,080 --> 00:43:31,880 Speaker 1: Taking untimely sacks have become a problem. And then you know, 781 00:43:32,000 --> 00:43:34,920 Speaker 1: coach Harball has done a fantastic job. I who give 782 00:43:35,000 --> 00:43:39,000 Speaker 1: them credit for and being able of making sure that 783 00:43:39,040 --> 00:43:41,720 Speaker 1: the next guy up and we hear it it's coaches 784 00:43:41,760 --> 00:43:45,080 Speaker 1: cliche and next man up nonsense. Well it truly is here. 785 00:43:45,560 --> 00:43:47,440 Speaker 1: You know, I had a chance to talk to WENK. Martindale. 786 00:43:47,480 --> 00:43:50,400 Speaker 1: As we all know, he's from Dayton and as a 787 00:43:50,480 --> 00:43:53,360 Speaker 1: defensive coordinator here in Baltimore and obviously was at the 788 00:43:53,440 --> 00:43:57,080 Speaker 1: Universe Cincinnati also and I talked to him Sunday night, 789 00:43:57,120 --> 00:44:00,399 Speaker 1: and you know, he's got guys out there that they're 790 00:44:00,520 --> 00:44:04,080 Speaker 1: they're literally taking them off the practice squad on Sunday morning. 791 00:44:04,200 --> 00:44:07,319 Speaker 1: So you had a corner that found their garden, you know, 792 00:44:08,200 --> 00:44:11,600 Speaker 1: the Packers best wide receiver, DeVante, and he literally was 793 00:44:11,640 --> 00:44:14,600 Speaker 1: on the practice squad until Sunday morning. They had to 794 00:44:14,640 --> 00:44:17,440 Speaker 1: call and say, hey, come down to the stadium. You're starting. 795 00:44:18,040 --> 00:44:21,520 Speaker 1: So I mean that that's the situation that's been you know, 796 00:44:21,680 --> 00:44:24,360 Speaker 1: especially for Chris Hewitt, you know, former Bearcat, and the 797 00:44:24,400 --> 00:44:27,600 Speaker 1: defensive backs coach and the second and the passing game coordinator, 798 00:44:28,160 --> 00:44:29,960 Speaker 1: you know him and wee Martin Dell. They're going ball 799 00:44:30,080 --> 00:44:32,920 Speaker 1: like me right now because you know, having to have 800 00:44:33,000 --> 00:44:35,719 Speaker 1: a stress of you know, who's going to play at 801 00:44:35,800 --> 00:44:39,319 Speaker 1: corner Nicols safety. I mean, they're literally, you know, for 802 00:44:39,400 --> 00:44:41,799 Speaker 1: lack of a better analogy, they're literally pulling guys out 803 00:44:41,800 --> 00:44:44,000 Speaker 1: in the stands, you know, and trying to get them 804 00:44:44,000 --> 00:44:45,520 Speaker 1: to go out there and play football at a high 805 00:44:45,600 --> 00:44:48,560 Speaker 1: level of time at the most important time. And unfortunately 806 00:44:48,640 --> 00:44:50,520 Speaker 1: right now, that's why the Ravens have set here in 807 00:44:50,560 --> 00:44:52,800 Speaker 1: the month of December and they've lost three in the 808 00:44:52,960 --> 00:44:57,520 Speaker 1: row and you can't make the playoffs losing three games 809 00:44:57,520 --> 00:44:59,520 Speaker 1: in the month of December. That's just not going to happen. 810 00:44:59,520 --> 00:45:02,480 Speaker 1: And somehow don't find a way on the road in 811 00:45:02,520 --> 00:45:08,239 Speaker 1: the nasty Maddy this Sunday. It could be, you know, 812 00:45:08,360 --> 00:45:10,600 Speaker 1: like that for the playoffs this year, for the Ravens. 813 00:45:11,640 --> 00:45:16,800 Speaker 1: You know what you're talking about makes this total sense 814 00:45:16,840 --> 00:45:20,440 Speaker 1: to me. Now is so many struggles on the back end, 815 00:45:20,640 --> 00:45:23,480 Speaker 1: and you just confirmed a lot of it, read a 816 00:45:23,520 --> 00:45:25,000 Speaker 1: lot of it, but to hear it from you, it's 817 00:45:25,040 --> 00:45:28,879 Speaker 1: even more shocking. This team's number one in the National 818 00:45:28,920 --> 00:45:31,880 Speaker 1: Football League stopping the run defensively eighty six point two 819 00:45:31,960 --> 00:45:35,880 Speaker 1: yards a game. Number one Usually that means, you know, 820 00:45:35,920 --> 00:45:37,440 Speaker 1: you have the right to rush the past, or it 821 00:45:37,480 --> 00:45:40,000 Speaker 1: means a lot of turnovers, it means a lot of interceptions. 822 00:45:40,200 --> 00:45:43,080 Speaker 1: They've got six interceptions tied for third fewest in the 823 00:45:43,200 --> 00:45:46,600 Speaker 1: National Football League, eleven takeaways tied for second fewest in 824 00:45:46,680 --> 00:45:49,560 Speaker 1: the National Football League in fourteen games. That is so 825 00:45:50,200 --> 00:45:54,239 Speaker 1: un raven, Like you know, and I'm thinking, you know, 826 00:45:54,520 --> 00:45:56,880 Speaker 1: the passing numbers, they're in trouble, you know, stopping the 827 00:45:56,880 --> 00:46:00,160 Speaker 1: pass office it's just personnel, right, I mean, well, what 828 00:46:00,200 --> 00:46:03,440 Speaker 1: can you do do you think that Wink will blink 829 00:46:03,480 --> 00:46:05,920 Speaker 1: a little bit? Do you think Wink will use all 830 00:46:05,920 --> 00:46:08,880 Speaker 1: those different sophisticated pressure packages or do you think he 831 00:46:08,960 --> 00:46:11,960 Speaker 1: will follow what other teams have done here against the 832 00:46:12,000 --> 00:46:16,280 Speaker 1: Bengals and play soft zone, play coverage, play soft zone, 833 00:46:16,360 --> 00:46:20,520 Speaker 1: and make the Bengals earn every play, because in the 834 00:46:20,560 --> 00:46:24,560 Speaker 1: first game, explosives killed the Ravens. The Bengals had like 835 00:46:24,719 --> 00:46:26,880 Speaker 1: nine plays or thirty yards or more, an eighty two 836 00:46:26,960 --> 00:46:30,520 Speaker 1: yard touchdown pass, you know, a forty six yard touchdown run, 837 00:46:30,760 --> 00:46:34,040 Speaker 1: a fifty five yard touchdown pass they didn't tackle. Well, 838 00:46:34,200 --> 00:46:36,000 Speaker 1: do you think Wink will blink or do you think 839 00:46:36,040 --> 00:46:39,640 Speaker 1: Wink's gonna do what Wink does? Do what Wink does. 840 00:46:40,000 --> 00:46:43,759 Speaker 1: And Matt being said, he's also not a fool, so 841 00:46:43,800 --> 00:46:46,320 Speaker 1: he's also going to look at Okay, they hung forty 842 00:46:46,320 --> 00:46:49,279 Speaker 1: one on us year in Baltimore, and as you said, 843 00:46:49,280 --> 00:46:52,319 Speaker 1: the explosive plays, it was like going on an Opra 844 00:46:52,320 --> 00:46:55,840 Speaker 1: Wifrey show because everybody was getting an explosive twenty plays 845 00:46:55,920 --> 00:46:59,480 Speaker 1: yard catcher running a team like that game. So I 846 00:46:59,560 --> 00:47:01,520 Speaker 1: look forward to Wink and being a part of the 847 00:47:01,600 --> 00:47:05,040 Speaker 1: system and understanding how he does things. I think he'll 848 00:47:05,360 --> 00:47:07,759 Speaker 1: he'll pick his spots a little more soodic, you know, 849 00:47:08,200 --> 00:47:12,040 Speaker 1: methodically as far as when he's going to apply the pressure. 850 00:47:12,080 --> 00:47:14,359 Speaker 1: But you also have to understand that that game plan 851 00:47:14,719 --> 00:47:16,880 Speaker 1: it didn't work. But they'll go back, and you guys 852 00:47:16,920 --> 00:47:19,840 Speaker 1: know this, they'll take out what did work because up 853 00:47:19,880 --> 00:47:21,920 Speaker 1: until what the third or fourth quarter, still was a 854 00:47:21,920 --> 00:47:23,680 Speaker 1: good football game. And then they gave up I think 855 00:47:23,719 --> 00:47:26,280 Speaker 1: it was what fourteen in the fourth quarter or whatever 856 00:47:26,280 --> 00:47:29,200 Speaker 1: it was, And you talked about those are supposed to plays, 857 00:47:29,600 --> 00:47:32,240 Speaker 1: and I think to me one of the biggest explosive plays. Obviously, 858 00:47:32,360 --> 00:47:34,239 Speaker 1: Jamar Chase had a huge day. He went eight for 859 00:47:34,360 --> 00:47:36,960 Speaker 1: what two old one or something like that. But the 860 00:47:37,040 --> 00:47:39,719 Speaker 1: guy that really hurt and the most was the tight 861 00:47:39,840 --> 00:47:43,560 Speaker 1: end CJ c j Uzema, your kid out there. He 862 00:47:43,600 --> 00:47:46,880 Speaker 1: was three for ninety one. And in the games that 863 00:47:46,920 --> 00:47:49,000 Speaker 1: we talked about this last time. I know you guys 864 00:47:49,160 --> 00:47:51,800 Speaker 1: may or may not remember, we talked about controlling Mark 865 00:47:51,880 --> 00:47:55,520 Speaker 1: Andrew's ravings tight end and the games that the Bengals 866 00:47:55,560 --> 00:47:57,759 Speaker 1: had had success prior to that. When he went back 867 00:47:57,760 --> 00:48:00,799 Speaker 1: to twenty eighteen, when Mark got here, the games that 868 00:48:00,880 --> 00:48:04,160 Speaker 1: he had basically four or less catches, they end up 869 00:48:04,200 --> 00:48:06,400 Speaker 1: winning the game. And has a lot of successful If 870 00:48:06,400 --> 00:48:08,600 Speaker 1: you look back at the last games, you know that 871 00:48:08,680 --> 00:48:12,120 Speaker 1: Mark Ganis had against you guys, he was three for 872 00:48:12,120 --> 00:48:14,440 Speaker 1: forty eight and in that week, so that kind of 873 00:48:14,480 --> 00:48:19,440 Speaker 1: eliminated and taking away Lamar Jackson safety blanket and that 874 00:48:19,640 --> 00:48:23,239 Speaker 1: being Mark Andrews, and then of course eliminating Hollywood Browns 875 00:48:23,280 --> 00:48:26,279 Speaker 1: also helped out in the defense where you eliminate his 876 00:48:26,360 --> 00:48:28,600 Speaker 1: two guys. I mean, when you look at the numbers, guys, 877 00:48:29,400 --> 00:48:31,840 Speaker 1: you look at Mark Andrews leading teams with one hundred 878 00:48:31,840 --> 00:48:34,759 Speaker 1: and twenty two target, Hollywood Brown, Markith brownleoleas a team 879 00:48:34,760 --> 00:48:37,560 Speaker 1: with one hundred and twenty one target. There isn't anybody 880 00:48:37,600 --> 00:48:40,480 Speaker 1: else on this team that has fifty targets. So if 881 00:48:40,520 --> 00:48:42,640 Speaker 1: you're Heaves a coordinator, you sit there and say, wow, 882 00:48:43,000 --> 00:48:45,319 Speaker 1: if we can keep Superman in the phone booth, not 883 00:48:45,480 --> 00:48:47,800 Speaker 1: let him get out, not let him get those explicitive 884 00:48:47,840 --> 00:48:50,000 Speaker 1: plays when he starts to break down the pocket, and 885 00:48:50,040 --> 00:48:51,600 Speaker 1: then if we can take away the tide end the 886 00:48:51,680 --> 00:48:55,520 Speaker 1: Marquis Brown you're looking at, you're giving yourself an opportunity 887 00:48:55,560 --> 00:48:58,400 Speaker 1: to get those sacks, which is why, as we just 888 00:48:58,440 --> 00:49:01,440 Speaker 1: alluded to, and the six games he's got twenty two 889 00:49:01,480 --> 00:49:05,080 Speaker 1: cents because the other people are getting open. The other 890 00:49:05,120 --> 00:49:08,040 Speaker 1: people haven't been able to make plays because they're so 891 00:49:08,200 --> 00:49:11,920 Speaker 1: heavy focused on stopping Andrews or throwing the ball to 892 00:49:12,000 --> 00:49:14,759 Speaker 1: Andrews and throwing the ball to Marquis Brown. That's been 893 00:49:15,160 --> 00:49:17,200 Speaker 1: part of the frustration for a lot of fans and 894 00:49:17,239 --> 00:49:21,040 Speaker 1: a lot of people here is that development of spreading 895 00:49:21,040 --> 00:49:24,239 Speaker 1: the ball around for this offense hasn't occurred. And then, 896 00:49:24,239 --> 00:49:26,120 Speaker 1: of course when you find your situation yourself in the 897 00:49:26,200 --> 00:49:29,120 Speaker 1: situations of not running the ball, that's putting a lot 898 00:49:29,120 --> 00:49:32,399 Speaker 1: of pressure on offensive coordinated great Roman. Do you think 899 00:49:32,480 --> 00:49:36,680 Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson will be back on Sunday, I personally do 900 00:49:36,800 --> 00:49:39,759 Speaker 1: think so. Dan. I think that a lot of people 901 00:49:39,760 --> 00:49:41,839 Speaker 1: were questioned whether you play against the Packers. They kind 902 00:49:41,840 --> 00:49:43,920 Speaker 1: of looked at and said, okay, we got, you know, 903 00:49:44,160 --> 00:49:46,360 Speaker 1: three guys that we just kicked up off the street, 904 00:49:46,640 --> 00:49:49,279 Speaker 1: you know, playing in the secondary then maybe one of 905 00:49:49,320 --> 00:49:51,879 Speaker 1: the top two passers of this era, along with Tom 906 00:49:51,920 --> 00:49:55,359 Speaker 1: Brady obviously, and then I think they kind of said, okay, 907 00:49:55,360 --> 00:49:57,880 Speaker 1: it's the NFC game. If we lose the game, we 908 00:49:58,000 --> 00:50:00,200 Speaker 1: still have an opportunity. We still have to win the game. 909 00:50:00,200 --> 00:50:02,920 Speaker 1: Because you the Ravens finish up with you guys out 910 00:50:02,920 --> 00:50:06,560 Speaker 1: there in Cincinnati, and then they got the Los Angeles Rams, 911 00:50:06,920 --> 00:50:09,759 Speaker 1: and then they got the Pittsburgh Steelers. We all know 912 00:50:09,800 --> 00:50:11,759 Speaker 1: it could come down to that final week for them 913 00:50:11,880 --> 00:50:15,080 Speaker 1: for the whole FC North, which obviously NFL would be 914 00:50:15,120 --> 00:50:18,320 Speaker 1: excited about and probably fans would be stressed out about. 915 00:50:18,400 --> 00:50:22,360 Speaker 1: But you know, I personally think that Lamar they sat 916 00:50:22,440 --> 00:50:25,480 Speaker 1: him last week and just haven't talking to people, and 917 00:50:25,920 --> 00:50:27,839 Speaker 1: that this is the week that they know. If they 918 00:50:27,880 --> 00:50:30,680 Speaker 1: do not win this game first to Cincinnati Bengals on 919 00:50:30,719 --> 00:50:33,839 Speaker 1: Sunday at one o'clock out in the Queen City, that 920 00:50:34,000 --> 00:50:38,040 Speaker 1: is going to put a severe damper an opportunity for 921 00:50:38,160 --> 00:50:40,279 Speaker 1: to make the playoffs this year, which which will be 922 00:50:40,400 --> 00:50:43,880 Speaker 1: very very disappointing. Obviously, heads will probably roll out here 923 00:50:43,920 --> 00:50:48,040 Speaker 1: because that's unacceptable. So when you look at that, I 924 00:50:48,120 --> 00:50:50,480 Speaker 1: think he will play. Even though Huntley has played well, 925 00:50:50,880 --> 00:50:52,960 Speaker 1: you know, obviously he had he had a really good 926 00:50:53,000 --> 00:50:55,759 Speaker 1: game against the Packers. He's got really, really well. He's 927 00:50:55,840 --> 00:50:57,879 Speaker 1: more of a ball spreader. He doesn't take as many 928 00:50:57,920 --> 00:51:01,680 Speaker 1: deep shots. But Huntley a guy that has played very well, 929 00:51:01,920 --> 00:51:04,520 Speaker 1: you know, completing seventy one percent of his passes and 930 00:51:04,640 --> 00:51:06,799 Speaker 1: also has the ability to run the ball, so he's 931 00:51:07,200 --> 00:51:11,279 Speaker 1: he's a little better passer than Lamar. Both of them 932 00:51:11,320 --> 00:51:13,960 Speaker 1: kind of athletic, not as fast as Lamar, but very 933 00:51:14,040 --> 00:51:17,080 Speaker 1: very athletic and very very quick. And they're both from 934 00:51:17,080 --> 00:51:19,799 Speaker 1: the same area in Browery County in Fort Lauderdale, So 935 00:51:20,320 --> 00:51:23,399 Speaker 1: you know, between Tyler Huntley and Lamar Jackson, you're gonna 936 00:51:23,400 --> 00:51:25,959 Speaker 1: get pretty much the same thing, other than Lamar likes 937 00:51:25,960 --> 00:51:27,719 Speaker 1: to take a little more shot down field and if 938 00:51:27,760 --> 00:51:30,359 Speaker 1: that ankle is then one hundred percent that would be 939 00:51:30,360 --> 00:51:32,960 Speaker 1: beneficial to the defense. But I fully expect after two 940 00:51:33,000 --> 00:51:35,279 Speaker 1: weeks Lamar to be out there because this is the 941 00:51:35,280 --> 00:51:37,560 Speaker 1: most important game of the season, and not just because 942 00:51:37,560 --> 00:51:41,239 Speaker 1: it's the next game. This really is your last opportunity 943 00:51:41,360 --> 00:51:45,400 Speaker 1: may win this division title. You know, if if Lamar 944 00:51:45,480 --> 00:51:49,319 Speaker 1: comes back, you have that eleven on eleven running game 945 00:51:49,320 --> 00:51:52,640 Speaker 1: again with that quarterback. In my two questions and my 946 00:51:52,760 --> 00:51:56,319 Speaker 1: question on a couple of players, Ricard and boil um 947 00:51:58,120 --> 00:52:01,160 Speaker 1: to me, when when the big three hundred pound fullback 948 00:52:01,280 --> 00:52:03,640 Speaker 1: was out and they had to minimize that package, it 949 00:52:03,680 --> 00:52:06,560 Speaker 1: was a different running game. And then Boyle was out 950 00:52:06,600 --> 00:52:08,799 Speaker 1: and then boil comes back to and they put him 951 00:52:08,800 --> 00:52:11,440 Speaker 1: in that in that role. Those two guys are going 952 00:52:11,520 --> 00:52:12,960 Speaker 1: to be able to play because they were limited to 953 00:52:13,040 --> 00:52:15,600 Speaker 1: day in practice. If they're able to play, it becomes 954 00:52:15,640 --> 00:52:18,719 Speaker 1: a whole different dynamic with that running game. What's the 955 00:52:18,760 --> 00:52:24,080 Speaker 1: thought there, Penrocard and obviously Nick Boiler tight end. I 956 00:52:24,120 --> 00:52:25,879 Speaker 1: think both of those guys will be out there playing. 957 00:52:25,920 --> 00:52:27,640 Speaker 1: I think today was kind of just to day, which 958 00:52:27,920 --> 00:52:30,680 Speaker 1: we've seen throughout the season with coach har Ball being 959 00:52:30,719 --> 00:52:33,640 Speaker 1: an extra long year. Obviously, gentlemen, as you guys know 960 00:52:33,680 --> 00:52:36,440 Speaker 1: this with the extra game, the extra we can practice that. 961 00:52:36,520 --> 00:52:38,520 Speaker 1: This has been kind of like you got to kind 962 00:52:38,560 --> 00:52:41,400 Speaker 1: of manage guys injuries. Nick Boyle missed most of the season, 963 00:52:41,520 --> 00:52:43,719 Speaker 1: so it's not unusual for him to kind of made 964 00:52:43,800 --> 00:52:46,400 Speaker 1: take the rest day. But I fully expect those guys 965 00:52:46,440 --> 00:52:48,440 Speaker 1: this is an all hands on that game. I mean, 966 00:52:48,920 --> 00:52:51,799 Speaker 1: you know, they can try to underplay it and try 967 00:52:51,840 --> 00:52:54,920 Speaker 1: not to overstate it in the press conferences and zoom 968 00:52:54,920 --> 00:52:57,600 Speaker 1: calls and all that nonsense, but they're feeling here in 969 00:52:57,640 --> 00:53:01,240 Speaker 1: Baltimore amongst the fans, amongst the people, amongst those inside 970 00:53:01,280 --> 00:53:03,560 Speaker 1: the building, you can kind of get that that same 971 00:53:03,719 --> 00:53:07,400 Speaker 1: feeling and talking with coaches and talking with people, and 972 00:53:07,920 --> 00:53:10,520 Speaker 1: you know, just just the whole mentality and the attitude 973 00:53:10,600 --> 00:53:12,239 Speaker 1: is that this is a must win game, and it 974 00:53:12,280 --> 00:53:14,239 Speaker 1: truly is because it's the next game. But we all 975 00:53:14,239 --> 00:53:16,080 Speaker 1: know you only need to be wanted, oh every week, 976 00:53:16,160 --> 00:53:20,920 Speaker 1: that's the goal. But this game right here is extremely huge, 977 00:53:20,920 --> 00:53:24,120 Speaker 1: and especially where the Bengals came here into Baltimore and 978 00:53:24,239 --> 00:53:27,400 Speaker 1: basically took the Ravens behind the woodshed. So, um, this 979 00:53:27,440 --> 00:53:29,960 Speaker 1: is an important game obviously because it's an AFC game 980 00:53:30,000 --> 00:53:32,720 Speaker 1: and a division game. But if you don't win this game, 981 00:53:32,760 --> 00:53:35,319 Speaker 1: I think this for both teams, it kind of really 982 00:53:35,400 --> 00:53:38,400 Speaker 1: hinders their opportunities, not saying it is done and over with, 983 00:53:38,880 --> 00:53:41,040 Speaker 1: but for the Ravens, you have the Rams coming in 984 00:53:41,080 --> 00:53:43,680 Speaker 1: here and then you may have to you know, finish 985 00:53:43,760 --> 00:53:45,840 Speaker 1: up with Pittsburgh, you know, and we all know what 986 00:53:45,920 --> 00:53:48,800 Speaker 1: that's like. You know. You guys have your battles in Pittsburgh, obviously, 987 00:53:48,800 --> 00:53:51,160 Speaker 1: the Ravens and their battles. You don't want to come 988 00:53:51,200 --> 00:53:54,640 Speaker 1: down and have to Ben Ronsis Burger having one shining 989 00:53:54,719 --> 00:53:56,919 Speaker 1: moment in what they're calling, you know, his walk off 990 00:53:57,040 --> 00:54:00,560 Speaker 1: yere sou. You know, it's it's a frame. It tough 991 00:54:00,640 --> 00:54:02,520 Speaker 1: with those guys, I expect to play. I expect it 992 00:54:02,600 --> 00:54:05,080 Speaker 1: to be all hands on dates. Thank if they find 993 00:54:05,200 --> 00:54:07,239 Speaker 1: enough money for me. You may see old fifty out 994 00:54:07,280 --> 00:54:14,239 Speaker 1: there running around doing something. Sunday's game kicks off at 995 00:54:14,320 --> 00:54:17,879 Speaker 1: one o'clock and the Bengals are favored by three. As 996 00:54:17,920 --> 00:54:20,239 Speaker 1: for the rest of the AFC, North Cleveland is a 997 00:54:20,320 --> 00:54:23,040 Speaker 1: seven and a half point underdog at Green Bay on 998 00:54:23,120 --> 00:54:26,439 Speaker 1: Christmas Day. Pittsburgh is an eight and a half point 999 00:54:26,520 --> 00:54:30,440 Speaker 1: underdog at Kansas City on Sunday. 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