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Speaker 1: All right, Joe, let's get going on the topic here today.

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Speaker 1: We're talking about snow because we are in the midst

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Speaker 1: of winter of some sort where we are highly unlikely

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Speaker 1: to see snow, because, let's face it, we live in

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Speaker 1: Atlanta and it's not unusual to have a d degree

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Speaker 1: days in December. Yes, most of my snow these days

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Speaker 1: is coming in the form of storytelling and storybook reading

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Speaker 1: with my son, particularly the Doctor Seuss book The Cat

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Speaker 1: in the Hat Comes Back. Are you familiar with this

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Speaker 1: text at all? I don't think so. No. Now was

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Speaker 1: this written this one in Alexander Sultan Itsen? No? No,

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Speaker 1: this was Dr sus is Doctor Sears? Okay, the Cat

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Speaker 1: in the Hat comes back? Does he come back for revenge? Um? Depended,

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Speaker 1: you know, it depends on your read of Cat in

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Speaker 1: the Hat and what cat and what this hat cat

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Speaker 1: wants out of its visits. This is, of course, the

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Speaker 1: sequel to The Cat in the Hat. You might remember

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Speaker 1: that one is the adventure in which the cat shows

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Speaker 1: up on a rainy day and starts causing a mess,

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Speaker 1: brings in Thing one and Thing two, and they run

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Speaker 1: him up and then Eventually they have to catch thing

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Speaker 1: and the thing one and thing too and uh, Sally

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Speaker 1: and her brother get the cat out, get the place

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Speaker 1: cleaned up, just in the nick of time. But they've

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Speaker 1: effectively staved off boredom, so it's not a total loss. Yeah, indeed.

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Speaker 1: But in the sequel, this is what's happening. It's a

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Speaker 1: snow day. There's snow everywhere, and Sally and her brother

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Speaker 1: are outside cleaning up the snow and her mother is

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Speaker 1: that their mothers who knows where, but they're at home

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Speaker 1: doing chores. Cat and Hat shows up, goes in the house,

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Speaker 1: and the brother instantly thinks, well, this is no good.

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Speaker 1: I'm going in. I'm gonna check this out and make

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Speaker 1: sure the cat's not racking the place like he did

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Speaker 1: last time. Because the cat and Hat is a is

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Speaker 1: an agent of chaos, and I don't think he's I

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Speaker 1: don't think he's good or bad, but he brings chaos

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Speaker 1: to wherever he goes. He's kind of a low key figure, yeah, exactly.

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Speaker 1: He's a trickster god. And in this particular incident, the

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Speaker 1: first name the cat does is start eating pink cake

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Speaker 1: in the bathtub, which is which looks very fun and inviting,

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Speaker 1: you know the book, uh, and the boy he says,

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Speaker 1: all right, the brothers says, there, you gotta get out

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Speaker 1: of there. This is making a mess, and indeed it

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Speaker 1: makes a pink ring in the tub when he drains it.

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Speaker 1: So the cat in the hats thing is has always

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Speaker 1: been that he's gonna help clean up because he's responsible.

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Speaker 1: But his cleanup techniques tend to be a bit chaotic

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Speaker 1: as well, and in this case it is kind of

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Speaker 1: an Amelia Badelia. Right. Yeah, even the well meaning attempts

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Speaker 1: to fix things sort of cause more chaos, right, and

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Speaker 1: his methods are are strange, And in this case it's

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Speaker 1: not it's not a situation where you just all right, well,

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Speaker 1: The cat transfers the pink stain from one item to

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Speaker 1: another in the house, so it goes everywhere until it

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Speaker 1: eventually winds up on the father's bed and he has

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Speaker 1: to call in all these additional hat cats, these increasingly

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Speaker 1: smaller cat in the hats from under his hat. With

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Speaker 1: hat cat z, a cat that is so small that

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Speaker 1: we we are told we cannot actually see it, that

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Speaker 1: cat takes off his hat and inside that is something

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Speaker 1: called voom, and zoom cleans up all the snow, makes

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Speaker 1: it white again. But what is voom? I don't know.

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Speaker 1: That's the That's that's a question that I want our

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Speaker 1: listeners to keep in mind. Two questions. A what is

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Speaker 1: this pink snow exactly that Sally and her brother and

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Speaker 1: the hat cats are dealing with. And indeed, what is voom? What?

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Speaker 1: What is this uh this strange substance or or mo

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Speaker 1: molecule or or energy within the the hat cats these

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Speaker 1: hat what is it? And how does it clean up

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Speaker 1: that snow? It's MINTI Glorean's it might be well. Obviously,

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Speaker 1: the cat and the hat comes back is just a

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Speaker 1: delightful children's fantasy, But there are a lot of strange

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Speaker 1: facts and strange circumstances in which people have encountered quite

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Speaker 1: bizarre snow events in the real world. I don't know

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Speaker 1: about Boom, but pink snow is not just a dream.

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Speaker 1: It's a fact about reality. It happens sometimes for various

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Speaker 1: causes and in various locations, and not just pink. We've

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Speaker 1: seen black snow, green snow, blue snow, we've seen We've

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Speaker 1: seen weird snow sculptures that seem not to have been

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Speaker 1: made by humans or animals. We've seen snow that some

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Speaker 1: people think isn't actually made of water and it's maybe

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Speaker 1: some kind of like nano robot army invading the world.

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Speaker 1: So so I thought it would be worth doing an

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Speaker 1: episode just to talk about out all of the weird

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Speaker 1: ways that that snow can freak people out. Indeed, indeed,

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Speaker 1: so let's you know, one one way that that a

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Speaker 1: natural phenomena intends to freak us out is when it's

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Speaker 1: it's size is different, you know, I mean, that's the

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Speaker 1: whole thing. Nobody cares about seeing a rat, but if

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Speaker 1: you see a giant rat, and well that's worth talking about.

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Speaker 1: How about giant snowflakes? Yeah, you know, snowflakes are not

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Speaker 1: like scorpions, whereas with a scorpion, a giant scorpion, that's

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Speaker 1: really interesting. But even a normal size, very small scorpion

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Speaker 1: is worth your attention. How big does a snowflake have

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Speaker 1: that's a good question. So obviously a normal size I

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Speaker 1: Maybe a couple of millimeters or so for a snowflake

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Speaker 1: that that's not worth your attention. If it were a

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Speaker 1: few inches across, that would be something you'd notice, right, Um,

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Speaker 1: And it turns out that that does happen sometimes. Now,

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Speaker 1: the biggest on record is one where the record itself

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Speaker 1: is highly disputable. The traditional record holder for for the

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Speaker 1: biggest snowflake was supposedly observed by a rancher named Matt

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Speaker 1: Coleman of Fort Keo, Montana in eighteen seven. That is

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Speaker 1: big sky country, right, oh is it? I think so?

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Speaker 1: In the Montana big sky count I don't know. I mean,

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Speaker 1: if there's bigger sky or the bigger snowflakes, I would

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Speaker 1: guess so that that seems to be the relationship going

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Speaker 1: on here. Well, let's hear what Matt had to say

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Speaker 1: about what happened on a ranch. According to Matt, there

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Speaker 1: were snowflakes that were falling that were bigger than a

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Speaker 1: milk pan. Yeah, so they were fifteen inches wide and

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Speaker 1: eight inches thick. So you've got these like frisbee sized

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Speaker 1: snow Yeah, that's like a that's like a pizza. And

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Speaker 1: also one of the things you'd have to imagine is

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Speaker 1: that's true. Larger snowflake tend to fall faster. Uh, those

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Speaker 1: snowflakes that are several inches across will fall faster than

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Speaker 1: you know, light fluffy, tiny little thing. So I don't

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Speaker 1: snowflake that's fifteen inches wide. I mean, would that be

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Speaker 1: like a giant Ninja star coming from this guy to

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Speaker 1: spiritual experience. It's like like seeing an alien life form

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Speaker 1: or an angelic visitation is occurring in your life, right, Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: death frisbees from heaven. But anyway, fifteen inches wide, I

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Speaker 1: don't somehow, I don't believe Matt the Rancher. I think

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Speaker 1: Matt the Rancher may have been exaggerating. That's just my

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Speaker 1: gut feeling. It could be wrong. Apparently this guy's word

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Speaker 1: But I mean, it's not like they sent a team

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Speaker 1: the snowflake and everything. I think we're pretty much just

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Speaker 1: I can easily imagine a rancher out in the middle

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Speaker 1: looks the same. After a few days, the mind begins

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Speaker 1: in the midst of a snowstorm, you are visited by this, uh,

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Speaker 1: this geometric entity, right Thor's and Ninja stars. Yeah, you

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Speaker 1: need to push some coffees. Okay, So, and I don't

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Speaker 1: snowflakes several inches across happened sometimes around the world, and

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Speaker 1: that's freaky enough on its own. YEA, if I saw

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Speaker 1: a snowflake three or four inches across, I would think

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Speaker 1: the Odin's sleep was dawning, Yeah, or that I was

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Speaker 1: shrinking one of the two. That's a good way of

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Speaker 1: looking at it too, But of course that's not the

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Speaker 1: only way that snow can do something physically very strange

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Speaker 1: with without having anybody mess with it. Yeah, and this

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Speaker 1: in a scenario. Imagine you are out hiking in the

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Speaker 1: rocky mountains on New Year's Day. You're a little bit hungover,

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Speaker 1: You've got your rifle across your back, You've got your

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Speaker 1: snow shoes on your feet, and you've got your VHS

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Speaker 1: camcorder with the cracked lens and it's fully charged up

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Speaker 1: on battery power. Because today is the day you are

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Speaker 1: finally going to capture video evidence of Bigfoot. Well, you know,

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Speaker 1: that is my New Year's resolution for the coming year,

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Speaker 1: just finally, you know, quit talking about it and just

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Speaker 1: get some video footage of of the of the SAT squad.

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Speaker 1: Put up or shut up, It's the ultimate personal betterment.

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Speaker 1: But anyway, you're you're snow shoeing alone through a desolate

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Speaker 1: into this pristine, snow covered clearing and you look out

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Speaker 1: beyond the path and you see something very strange. You

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Speaker 1: see dozens of white cylinders lying on the ground on

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Speaker 1: And the best way to describe it is that it

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Speaker 1: looks like someone has taken a flyer layer of snow

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Speaker 1: it's this solid, spiraling cylinder like the cinnamon roll, and

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Speaker 1: cells that that serves as a major part of the

427
00:23:20,240 --> 00:23:23,879
Speaker 1: air movements in our weather systems. Now, whatever his scientific credentials,

428
00:23:23,880 --> 00:23:26,960
Speaker 1: I imagine Dante had something a little gorrier in mind. Right.

429
00:23:27,240 --> 00:23:29,840
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, So in if you're wondering what's serving as

430
00:23:29,880 --> 00:23:33,080
Speaker 1: the conversation nuclei in Hell? Well, um, I mean certainly

431
00:23:33,080 --> 00:23:36,840
Speaker 1: there there there are particles of just normal in organic

432
00:23:36,880 --> 00:23:41,719
Speaker 1: matter around. But Serveny argues that the conversation nuclei here

433
00:23:41,760 --> 00:23:44,760
Speaker 1: would be bits of blood and gore evaporated into the

434
00:23:44,800 --> 00:23:49,000
Speaker 1: air from the boiling blood river of Flagius. So there

435
00:23:49,040 --> 00:23:53,199
Speaker 1: you go. It seems fitting the boiling blood river. So

436
00:23:53,280 --> 00:23:56,840
Speaker 1: there's a certain updraft of blood from the boiling river. Yeah,

437
00:23:57,000 --> 00:24:00,600
Speaker 1: all these people are boiled alive. It the water of

438
00:24:00,640 --> 00:24:02,880
Speaker 1: the river itself is blood, so all of that ends

439
00:24:02,920 --> 00:24:05,240
Speaker 1: up evaporating upward and then it has to come back down,

440
00:24:05,520 --> 00:24:08,359
Speaker 1: perhaps in the form of rain or snow. Now this

441
00:24:08,440 --> 00:24:10,480
Speaker 1: is a side note, Robert, but I do want to

442
00:24:10,480 --> 00:24:13,120
Speaker 1: get your opinion on this. Why do you think there

443
00:24:13,160 --> 00:24:18,359
Speaker 1: has never been a great movie version of Dante's Inferno made? Oh,

444
00:24:18,400 --> 00:24:21,520
Speaker 1: I mean the mist regional reasons. I mean, the old

445
00:24:21,520 --> 00:24:24,199
Speaker 1: silent one is kind of fun to watch, but I

446
00:24:24,240 --> 00:24:27,000
Speaker 1: think in large part because it's just so much content

447
00:24:27,440 --> 00:24:30,879
Speaker 1: that has to be crunched there. It's it's so steeped

448
00:24:31,119 --> 00:24:36,399
Speaker 1: in in medieval culture, in church history, in Dante's own

449
00:24:36,760 --> 00:24:39,600
Speaker 1: personal angst that I mean, how do you how do

450
00:24:39,640 --> 00:24:42,240
Speaker 1: you adapt that and and make it make it work

451
00:24:42,240 --> 00:24:44,359
Speaker 1: on the screen. Yeah. Another part of it, though, I

452
00:24:44,359 --> 00:24:46,440
Speaker 1: remember a friend told me once and it really stuck

453
00:24:46,440 --> 00:24:48,199
Speaker 1: with me, is it would be impossible to get an

454
00:24:48,320 --> 00:24:51,760
Speaker 1: R rating. How could you? How could you do it

455
00:24:51,840 --> 00:24:55,120
Speaker 1: without getting an unrated film which nobody wants to release. Yeah. Yeah,

456
00:24:55,119 --> 00:24:58,680
Speaker 1: there's a lot of graphic content, and they're particularly in Inferno.

457
00:24:58,880 --> 00:25:00,679
Speaker 1: But then there's also some just and stuff, like a

458
00:25:00,680 --> 00:25:04,320
Speaker 1: demon playing a trumpet with its butt. That's great poppy satan,

459
00:25:04,400 --> 00:25:07,560
Speaker 1: poppy satan. Yeah, nobody knows what it means. It's great.

460
00:25:07,920 --> 00:25:11,360
Speaker 1: Oh man, that could be a fun episode. Sometimes untranslatable phrases.

461
00:25:12,320 --> 00:25:16,040
Speaker 1: Uh well, okay, whatever is going on in Hell. As

462
00:25:16,040 --> 00:25:19,439
Speaker 1: we've discussed, there is sometimes red, orange, yellow snow in

463
00:25:19,480 --> 00:25:22,800
Speaker 1: the real world. But dust particles are not the only

464
00:25:22,840 --> 00:25:27,320
Speaker 1: scientific explanation for multicolored snow that sometimes looks like it

465
00:25:27,400 --> 00:25:30,119
Speaker 1: might be bleeding or full of vomit, or full of

466
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Speaker 1: something else gross, full of full of vile from the underworld,

467
00:25:34,400 --> 00:25:41,600
Speaker 1: because sometimes snow itself is actually an ecosystem. Yeah, this

468
00:25:41,680 --> 00:25:44,080
Speaker 1: is really phenomenal, and it in a way it ties

469
00:25:44,080 --> 00:25:48,200
Speaker 1: in nicely with Hell because you have essentially organic material

470
00:25:48,280 --> 00:25:52,040
Speaker 1: serving as the nuclad right. So, as explored in the

471
00:25:52,160 --> 00:25:56,240
Speaker 1: Scientific American article Wonderful Things, colon, don't eat the pink snow.

472
00:25:57,119 --> 00:26:00,480
Speaker 1: You have to consider numerous different species of snow algae,

473
00:26:00,560 --> 00:26:03,639
Speaker 1: including one particular one of note here, and that's the

474
00:26:03,800 --> 00:26:08,919
Speaker 1: green alergae species uh Clamo Dominus novellis. It's a green

475
00:26:09,520 --> 00:26:12,800
Speaker 1: cryophilic cryots that means it likes ice or likes cold,

476
00:26:13,080 --> 00:26:16,840
Speaker 1: likes the cold, likes the ice. Cryophilic algae that thrives

477
00:26:16,880 --> 00:26:19,600
Speaker 1: in freezing water and at the center of a snowflake.

478
00:26:19,640 --> 00:26:23,879
Speaker 1: Its zygote form depends on a red carrotinoid pigment to

479
00:26:23,960 --> 00:26:27,400
Speaker 1: protect it from u V bombardment. Oh wow, Yeah, when

480
00:26:27,480 --> 00:26:31,200
Speaker 1: ben beta carotene incidentally performs a similar duty absorbing u

481
00:26:31,280 --> 00:26:33,520
Speaker 1: V inside the human eye. So this has been something

482
00:26:33,560 --> 00:26:37,159
Speaker 1: just completely crazy and unique to this species. Yeah, so

483
00:26:37,200 --> 00:26:39,040
Speaker 1: this is a sort of would you call this an

484
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Speaker 1: extreme aphile? It seems like it would probably meet the

485
00:26:41,680 --> 00:26:44,879
Speaker 1: classification because, I mean, living in snow that's not a

486
00:26:45,000 --> 00:26:48,880
Speaker 1: very friendly environment, and you so one of the things

487
00:26:48,960 --> 00:26:51,080
Speaker 1: pointed out here is that it has to protect itself

488
00:26:51,080 --> 00:26:54,400
Speaker 1: from UVY bombardment. Living on snow is kind of like,

489
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Speaker 1: I don't know, if you wanted to just like live

490
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Speaker 1: on black asphalt or something. Uh, it's you're you're just

491
00:27:01,720 --> 00:27:04,480
Speaker 1: bombarded by the sunlight and I guess on the snow

492
00:27:04,600 --> 00:27:08,439
Speaker 1: it's reflecting black back because the snow is white. Um,

493
00:27:08,520 --> 00:27:10,359
Speaker 1: and then of course it's going to be very cold.

494
00:27:10,440 --> 00:27:13,240
Speaker 1: I can imagine that. It's where do you get your

495
00:27:13,320 --> 00:27:16,119
Speaker 1: your nutrients from if you need like mineral nutrients and

496
00:27:16,160 --> 00:27:18,119
Speaker 1: you're just sitting in the snow. That seems like a

497
00:27:18,240 --> 00:27:21,359
Speaker 1: nutrient poor environment. Yeah, it seems like a very rough

498
00:27:21,400 --> 00:27:25,000
Speaker 1: place to to carve out your your your little corner

499
00:27:25,000 --> 00:27:29,960
Speaker 1: of life, right, But apparently clamo dominos don't care. These uh,

500
00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:33,400
Speaker 1: these algae are I don't know they're they're they're tough

501
00:27:33,480 --> 00:27:37,640
Speaker 1: little buddies, but they do bring us a wonderful uh

502
00:27:37,840 --> 00:27:40,280
Speaker 1: site from time to time when people come across these

503
00:27:40,320 --> 00:27:42,520
Speaker 1: things and they're not prepared for it. They haven't read

504
00:27:42,560 --> 00:27:45,400
Speaker 1: these articles, they don't know exactly what it is. When

505
00:27:45,400 --> 00:27:48,760
Speaker 1: they encounter, for example, a snow bank on a mountain

506
00:27:48,800 --> 00:27:52,040
Speaker 1: side that just looks like it's full of blood, yeah,

507
00:27:52,320 --> 00:27:56,640
Speaker 1: or what happened here? Um? Or a delicious watermelon icy

508
00:27:56,760 --> 00:28:00,280
Speaker 1: that apparently they're often referred to as watermelon snows. Yeah,

509
00:28:00,280 --> 00:28:04,080
Speaker 1: when she scoop them up and taste it, well, I'll

510
00:28:04,119 --> 00:28:07,200
Speaker 1: I'll let you feel the eating of the watermelon snow.

511
00:28:07,240 --> 00:28:10,399
Speaker 1: But in terms of encountering it, you do tend to

512
00:28:10,480 --> 00:28:13,600
Speaker 1: encounter it on a permanent snowfields and sunny dry areas,

513
00:28:13,600 --> 00:28:16,720
Speaker 1: so the snow then ends up blushing, is melting, erosion

514
00:28:16,720 --> 00:28:20,760
Speaker 1: and evaporation occur, and then someone finds it and they say, hey,

515
00:28:20,800 --> 00:28:23,760
Speaker 1: maybe I'll have a bite of that. What happens. Well, apparently,

516
00:28:24,080 --> 00:28:29,439
Speaker 1: according to a couple of experts, it has significant laxative properties.

517
00:28:30,080 --> 00:28:33,400
Speaker 1: So the watermelon snow will will send you a run

518
00:28:33,400 --> 00:28:37,720
Speaker 1: into the nearest outhouse, which which may be especially troubling

519
00:28:37,720 --> 00:28:40,280
Speaker 1: if you're up in a mountain pass somewhere and it's

520
00:28:40,320 --> 00:28:42,440
Speaker 1: all bundled up for the winter, probably nowhere to go.

521
00:28:42,480 --> 00:28:46,600
Speaker 1: So pink snow probably begets uh, brown snow or black

522
00:28:46,640 --> 00:28:52,000
Speaker 1: snow depending. That's gross. Yeah, but but enough about brown snow.

523
00:28:52,360 --> 00:28:54,400
Speaker 1: How about how about a little blue snow for us?

524
00:28:54,400 --> 00:28:56,800
Speaker 1: We mentioned it earlier, you mentioned that blue snow. So

525
00:28:57,040 --> 00:29:01,040
Speaker 1: in February in the city of Tellia, Beans for Russia,

526
00:29:01,520 --> 00:29:05,719
Speaker 1: people started to see something alarming. It was bright blue snow.

527
00:29:05,800 --> 00:29:09,040
Speaker 1: And this is not just the way ice sometimes looks

528
00:29:09,080 --> 00:29:11,040
Speaker 1: like a powder blue and in the right kind of

529
00:29:11,120 --> 00:29:13,840
Speaker 1: light or the right kind of packing density of the ice.

530
00:29:13,880 --> 00:29:17,240
Speaker 1: I don't know. You've probably seen glaciers sometimes it look blue. Now,

531
00:29:17,280 --> 00:29:21,160
Speaker 1: this was snow that was bright blue, and easter egg

532
00:29:21,200 --> 00:29:24,400
Speaker 1: blue and blue. Just remind everyone blue is not a

533
00:29:24,480 --> 00:29:28,760
Speaker 1: color you encounter with tremendous frequency in the natural world.

534
00:29:29,040 --> 00:29:32,200
Speaker 1: Is the sky, yes, And and there's some that are

535
00:29:32,480 --> 00:29:34,960
Speaker 1: that we don't even see it that much in the sky. Uh,

536
00:29:35,560 --> 00:29:38,680
Speaker 1: a separate tangent that. But but yeah, in terms of

537
00:29:38,720 --> 00:29:41,320
Speaker 1: just finding oh this is this has the pigment blue

538
00:29:41,320 --> 00:29:44,000
Speaker 1: in it, you don't find it much. So Yeah, the

539
00:29:44,040 --> 00:29:46,400
Speaker 1: city in Russia, you've got this easter egg blue snow.

540
00:29:46,840 --> 00:29:49,120
Speaker 1: Residents claim that when they walk through the areas of

541
00:29:49,120 --> 00:29:52,080
Speaker 1: the blue snow, they experienced sore throats and could taste

542
00:29:52,080 --> 00:29:56,280
Speaker 1: a sweetness in the air. That's alarming. Uh. And Chillia

543
00:29:56,320 --> 00:30:00,000
Speaker 1: Ben unfortunately is no stranger to weird stuff falling from

544
00:30:00,040 --> 00:30:03,280
Speaker 1: the sky. They've had there a number of troubling events there.

545
00:30:03,960 --> 00:30:05,960
Speaker 1: One of them was that it was the part of

546
00:30:06,040 --> 00:30:10,080
Speaker 1: Russia that was closest to meteor event, the super Bowl

547
00:30:10,160 --> 00:30:14,200
Speaker 1: eight event, where a meteor from space inner Earth's atmosphere

548
00:30:14,240 --> 00:30:16,959
Speaker 1: at this really high velocity at a very shallow angle

549
00:30:17,320 --> 00:30:21,080
Speaker 1: and then exploded in a gigantic air bursts that was

550
00:30:21,200 --> 00:30:24,520
Speaker 1: brighter than the sun, and it shattered windows all throughout

551
00:30:24,520 --> 00:30:27,960
Speaker 1: the surrounding area, caused lots of injuries. It was a

552
00:30:28,040 --> 00:30:34,400
Speaker 1: serious meteorological or not meteorological, a serious space object event. Yeah.

553
00:30:34,440 --> 00:30:37,680
Speaker 1: And then I made some tremendous footage too, since so

554
00:30:37,760 --> 00:30:42,000
Speaker 1: many drivers in Russia have the dashboard cameras to protect themselves.

555
00:30:42,520 --> 00:30:46,000
Speaker 1: We ended up seeing this tremendous footage of this, uh,

556
00:30:46,080 --> 00:30:49,760
Speaker 1: this object searing across the sky. Yeah, so that they'd

557
00:30:49,760 --> 00:30:52,400
Speaker 1: had they'd had the sky explode just a couple of

558
00:30:52,440 --> 00:30:55,600
Speaker 1: years before, and then they got the blue snow. So

559
00:30:55,920 --> 00:30:59,840
Speaker 1: was the blue snow more doom from space? Probably not,

560
00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:02,880
Speaker 1: because in this case there was actually a fairly mundane

561
00:31:02,920 --> 00:31:05,400
Speaker 1: but still kind of creepy explanation. There was a local

562
00:31:05,480 --> 00:31:10,320
Speaker 1: food product manufacturer called Vtex, and they admitted through a

563
00:31:10,360 --> 00:31:14,000
Speaker 1: spokesperson that they essentially they had a spill. They had

564
00:31:14,000 --> 00:31:17,440
Speaker 1: a chemical spill. They spilled a bunch of powdered easter

565
00:31:17,520 --> 00:31:21,800
Speaker 1: egg die and the powdered die got into the ventilation

566
00:31:21,920 --> 00:31:25,120
Speaker 1: system and then it was expelled into the outside air

567
00:31:25,200 --> 00:31:29,600
Speaker 1: and eventually settled into the snow, dyeing it blue. That's all.

568
00:31:31,640 --> 00:31:37,280
Speaker 1: But apparently when you live in Russia, having weird colored

569
00:31:37,320 --> 00:31:41,680
Speaker 1: snow happens pretty frequently, I mean early, maybe not pretty frequently,

570
00:31:41,720 --> 00:31:44,440
Speaker 1: more frequently than than it seems to in other places,

571
00:31:44,800 --> 00:31:48,880
Speaker 1: because there are also stories of a Siberian city in

572
00:31:48,960 --> 00:31:56,040
Speaker 1: Russia having black snow blacks snow. Well that that of course,

573
00:31:56,040 --> 00:32:00,680
Speaker 1: that instantly brings to mind some possible explanations in terms

574
00:32:00,720 --> 00:32:04,480
Speaker 1: of just thinking, well, what sends black particles up into

575
00:32:04,480 --> 00:32:07,640
Speaker 1: the air burning? Of course of course, yeah, so it's

576
00:32:07,680 --> 00:32:11,600
Speaker 1: not the it's not the correlate of black sunshine, which

577
00:32:11,720 --> 00:32:14,000
Speaker 1: was my first guest. You know, you see black snow,

578
00:32:14,040 --> 00:32:18,040
Speaker 1: I'm thinking maybe they're filming a Mastodon music video nearby,

579
00:32:18,160 --> 00:32:20,640
Speaker 1: and so like, the snow is coming off the peaks

580
00:32:20,640 --> 00:32:24,080
Speaker 1: of Mountain Gloom Max and Caughton across wind. But but

581
00:32:24,200 --> 00:32:26,400
Speaker 1: it wasn't that, it wasn't a special effect. It was

582
00:32:26,440 --> 00:32:31,720
Speaker 1: an accidental byproduct of industry or actually we would say

583
00:32:31,960 --> 00:32:34,840
Speaker 1: not industry but power production. In this case, though it

584
00:32:34,920 --> 00:32:38,880
Speaker 1: happened in the Siberian city of Omsk, which is apparently

585
00:32:38,920 --> 00:32:41,600
Speaker 1: an industrial center. That the first story I heard about

586
00:32:41,640 --> 00:32:46,040
Speaker 1: this was in the Moscow Times, reported in December, and

587
00:32:46,080 --> 00:32:49,840
Speaker 1: they said in the Siberian city of twice in one

588
00:32:49,920 --> 00:32:52,720
Speaker 1: week the city was covered in black snow, and apparently

589
00:32:52,760 --> 00:32:55,320
Speaker 1: the locals were given lots of assurances the black snow

590
00:32:55,400 --> 00:32:58,120
Speaker 1: does not present a health risk, don't worry about the

591
00:32:58,160 --> 00:33:01,840
Speaker 1: black snow, just go about business. The best lead at

592
00:33:01,840 --> 00:33:04,880
Speaker 1: the time to explain it was that they said that

593
00:33:05,280 --> 00:33:09,640
Speaker 1: local prosecutors had begun they began investigating a couple of

594
00:33:09,680 --> 00:33:12,840
Speaker 1: local businesses. One was a coal producer and the other

595
00:33:12,880 --> 00:33:15,880
Speaker 1: one was a thermal power station known as Thermal Power

596
00:33:15,920 --> 00:33:19,600
Speaker 1: Station Number five. And then they reported again this was

597
00:33:19,640 --> 00:33:23,480
Speaker 1: also in the Moscow Times in February, that the black

598
00:33:23,520 --> 00:33:26,239
Speaker 1: snow was back. It was back in in skin. This

599
00:33:26,280 --> 00:33:29,160
Speaker 1: time they reported that it was traceable to air pollution

600
00:33:29,680 --> 00:33:32,760
Speaker 1: from the city's thermal and electrical power plants. So apparently,

601
00:33:32,760 --> 00:33:36,520
Speaker 1: when it's very cold, the coldest times of the year,

602
00:33:36,520 --> 00:33:39,760
Speaker 1: they really crank up the engines at the thermal power

603
00:33:39,800 --> 00:33:44,960
Speaker 1: plants and this causes extra unfiltered atmospheric pollutants to get

604
00:33:44,960 --> 00:33:47,680
Speaker 1: out into the air condense and then fall down in

605
00:33:47,720 --> 00:33:51,360
Speaker 1: the snow and cover the city in this this scary

606
00:33:51,400 --> 00:33:54,920
Speaker 1: black snow that reminds me of some of the some

607
00:33:55,000 --> 00:33:58,560
Speaker 1: of the ideas I've read about a theoretical nuclear winter

608
00:33:59,240 --> 00:34:04,400
Speaker 1: in which you've had multiple nuclear devices detonate over large

609
00:34:04,400 --> 00:34:07,720
Speaker 1: population centers, and of course it ends up uh possibly

610
00:34:08,360 --> 00:34:13,320
Speaker 1: serving as a sarcophagus for the earth um and preventing

611
00:34:13,360 --> 00:34:16,160
Speaker 1: the sunlight from from warming the world as it should.

612
00:34:16,480 --> 00:34:18,399
Speaker 1: But I've also read that you would have. You might

613
00:34:18,440 --> 00:34:20,920
Speaker 1: have so much material burnt up in those cities, those

614
00:34:20,960 --> 00:34:26,440
Speaker 1: centers of population, both people and just buildings and life

615
00:34:26,440 --> 00:34:30,560
Speaker 1: itself there, that you would have black or gray snows falling,

616
00:34:30,600 --> 00:34:34,720
Speaker 1: just the ash from those incinerations. Thanks for cheering us.

617
00:34:34,080 --> 00:34:38,200
Speaker 1: Uh yeah. So anyway, the thermal power station involved in

618
00:34:38,239 --> 00:34:42,240
Speaker 1: the story said they said they'd get a new filter. Okay,

619
00:34:42,360 --> 00:34:46,080
Speaker 1: all right, just turns out, yeah, we need a new filter.

620
00:34:46,520 --> 00:34:49,040
Speaker 1: We'll get that replaced. Okay. So we've talked about the

621
00:34:49,040 --> 00:34:51,680
Speaker 1: many colors of snow that sometimes crop up on Earth,

622
00:34:51,719 --> 00:34:54,719
Speaker 1: but it's all still Earth snow. We've mentioned hell snow

623
00:34:54,760 --> 00:34:56,480
Speaker 1: a little bit, but but I want to hear about

624
00:34:56,520 --> 00:35:00,800
Speaker 1: some real alien snow, Like, does it snow on Mars?

625
00:35:00,920 --> 00:35:04,280
Speaker 1: Does it snow on other planets? What what happens beyond

626
00:35:04,360 --> 00:35:07,279
Speaker 1: the bounds of our little blue marble. Well, here's what

627
00:35:07,400 --> 00:35:10,840
Speaker 1: we know, um, and I'm just gonna go through some

628
00:35:10,840 --> 00:35:13,879
Speaker 1: some planets here, some also some some moons in our

629
00:35:13,920 --> 00:35:17,560
Speaker 1: solar system and discuss just what might be falling that

630
00:35:17,840 --> 00:35:21,759
Speaker 1: at least resembles snow. Okay, let's start with Mars. We

631
00:35:21,800 --> 00:35:23,680
Speaker 1: already know what's going on in Earth, but on Mars,

632
00:35:23,719 --> 00:35:28,600
Speaker 1: in the polar regions, you'll find carbon dioxide crystal snow. Uh,

633
00:35:28,680 --> 00:35:31,279
Speaker 1: but not in the form of traditional snowflakes, but more

634
00:35:31,280 --> 00:35:35,160
Speaker 1: in the form of cubo octahedrons. And so these are

635
00:35:35,200 --> 00:35:41,279
Speaker 1: these are they have eight triangular faces and six square faces. Okay, wait, wait,

636
00:35:41,320 --> 00:35:44,319
Speaker 1: hold on, So it carbon dioxide snow. That would mean

637
00:35:44,360 --> 00:35:47,800
Speaker 1: it's snowing dry ice, right if dry ice is frozen

638
00:35:47,800 --> 00:35:52,040
Speaker 1: carbon dioxide, essentially, Yeah, that's that's my reta. That's messed up.

639
00:35:53,520 --> 00:35:56,600
Speaker 1: But if you go on on over to Jupiter, if

640
00:35:56,600 --> 00:36:01,520
Speaker 1: you visit the Jovian moon Io, you'll find sulfur dioxide snow. Okay,

641
00:36:01,520 --> 00:36:05,920
Speaker 1: So molten sulfur blasts out of the Moon's many active volcanoes,

642
00:36:06,000 --> 00:36:09,560
Speaker 1: it freezes in space and it falls back down as

643
00:36:09,600 --> 00:36:13,120
Speaker 1: as fluffy yellow snow. That's sick. I Owe is a

644
00:36:13,239 --> 00:36:16,479
Speaker 1: really cool moon, by the way, Everybody, when whenever people

645
00:36:16,520 --> 00:36:19,160
Speaker 1: are talking about the moons of Jupiter, Europa gets all

646
00:36:19,239 --> 00:36:22,919
Speaker 1: the attention because it's got those subterranean oceans. You think

647
00:36:22,920 --> 00:36:25,359
Speaker 1: you might find life there or something like that. But

648
00:36:25,360 --> 00:36:28,080
Speaker 1: but i Owe is worth a look. It is a

649
00:36:28,160 --> 00:36:32,239
Speaker 1: volatile volcanic hellscape of a planet that's really beautiful and

650
00:36:32,360 --> 00:36:36,400
Speaker 1: very interesting. Indeed. Now, if you head on out the Saturn,

651
00:36:36,800 --> 00:36:40,120
Speaker 1: you can visit in Sladus, and here you'll find water

652
00:36:40,200 --> 00:36:43,640
Speaker 1: and ammonious snow, thanks to water and ammonia geysers in

653
00:36:43,640 --> 00:36:47,239
Speaker 1: the south polar region that blast their content hundreds of

654
00:36:47,280 --> 00:36:50,239
Speaker 1: miles into space, so far that most of it doesn't

655
00:36:50,280 --> 00:36:53,719
Speaker 1: even come back down again. It leaves in Sladus and

656
00:36:53,960 --> 00:36:58,760
Speaker 1: eventually for forms part of Saturn's e ring. But what

657
00:36:58,760 --> 00:37:02,080
Speaker 1: whatever doesn't venture out to the ear ring falls back

658
00:37:02,080 --> 00:37:05,800
Speaker 1: down as powdery snow. And this is crazy. The snow

659
00:37:05,840 --> 00:37:10,319
Speaker 1: doesn't accumulate with any real degree of speed, but it's

660
00:37:10,320 --> 00:37:14,799
Speaker 1: been falling so long in certain regions of Enceladus for

661
00:37:14,880 --> 00:37:18,319
Speaker 1: millions of years, So in places we suspect that you

662
00:37:18,400 --> 00:37:22,800
Speaker 1: have hundred meter deep um snow drifts of this water

663
00:37:22,840 --> 00:37:27,720
Speaker 1: and ammonious snow. So what would happen if you landed

664
00:37:27,760 --> 00:37:29,800
Speaker 1: on one of those snow drifts? Would you just sink

665
00:37:29,880 --> 00:37:33,080
Speaker 1: into it? Ah? Don't? Yeah? Maybe because it's supposedly pretty

666
00:37:33,080 --> 00:37:36,200
Speaker 1: powdery stuff. Yeah I wouldn't. I don't. I don't. I

667
00:37:36,200 --> 00:37:38,800
Speaker 1: don't think the sense that it would be particularly packed.

668
00:37:39,080 --> 00:37:40,719
Speaker 1: All right, if we head on out a little further

669
00:37:40,760 --> 00:37:44,520
Speaker 1: into the Solar system, will visit Neptune, specifically, will visit

670
00:37:44,600 --> 00:37:49,400
Speaker 1: the Neptunian Neptunian moon Triton. All right, and here nitrogen

671
00:37:49,480 --> 00:37:53,200
Speaker 1: and methane snow falls in the southern polar region. Uh.

672
00:37:53,280 --> 00:37:57,400
Speaker 1: And it's pink snow. So potentially this this could be

673
00:37:57,400 --> 00:38:00,960
Speaker 1: what's going on in the cat and Hat comes back. Now,

674
00:38:00,960 --> 00:38:04,160
Speaker 1: will it give you the runs? Um? I don't think

675
00:38:04,160 --> 00:38:06,400
Speaker 1: it would have. Uh. I don't think it would be

676
00:38:06,440 --> 00:38:09,319
Speaker 1: good for you. I would not eat it if you

677
00:38:09,440 --> 00:38:12,759
Speaker 1: visit Triton in the foreseef the future. Uh. It's also

678
00:38:12,800 --> 00:38:15,920
Speaker 1: worth noting that this snow is also caused by geysers,

679
00:38:16,280 --> 00:38:20,560
Speaker 1: so similar to what we've talked about on on Enceladus.

680
00:38:21,200 --> 00:38:24,520
Speaker 1: And then finally, if you venture out the Pluto, you

681
00:38:24,640 --> 00:38:28,239
Speaker 1: might get some snow there as well. Hubble space telescope

682
00:38:28,760 --> 00:38:34,160
Speaker 1: findings originally suggested that that the Pluto experiences snows of nitrogen,

683
00:38:34,239 --> 00:38:38,960
Speaker 1: methane and possibly carbon monoxide, and New Horizons are recent

684
00:38:39,719 --> 00:38:43,319
Speaker 1: evidence seems to support the idea. But but we're talking

685
00:38:43,360 --> 00:38:47,359
Speaker 1: a pretty pretty distant location in our solar system here. Yeah.

686
00:38:47,400 --> 00:38:50,560
Speaker 1: I remember reading about that when the New Horizons data

687
00:38:50,680 --> 00:38:52,560
Speaker 1: was first coming back, that they were they were talking

688
00:38:52,600 --> 00:38:55,520
Speaker 1: about what types of particles you would have falling down

689
00:38:55,560 --> 00:38:58,239
Speaker 1: on the surface of Pluto, which again was one of

690
00:38:58,239 --> 00:39:00,360
Speaker 1: the things that surprised me about Pluto, but because I

691
00:39:00,400 --> 00:39:03,239
Speaker 1: guess for some reason, I thought of it as just

692
00:39:03,560 --> 00:39:06,840
Speaker 1: absolutely dead. Yeah, just like a place kind of like

693
00:39:06,880 --> 00:39:09,600
Speaker 1: the Moon where just not much is going on. Yeah.

694
00:39:09,640 --> 00:39:11,560
Speaker 1: I feel like our idea of of Pluto has been

695
00:39:11,600 --> 00:39:15,320
Speaker 1: so reduced in recent years, given our increased knowledge about

696
00:39:15,320 --> 00:39:17,359
Speaker 1: what's there and what might be there, that we just

697
00:39:17,640 --> 00:39:19,640
Speaker 1: we don't think of it having any kind of systems

698
00:39:19,640 --> 00:39:23,000
Speaker 1: in place. You just think of it is this dead rock. Yeah,

699
00:39:23,080 --> 00:39:26,160
Speaker 1: but but not so. The new findings about Pluto from

700
00:39:26,160 --> 00:39:29,759
Speaker 1: New Horizons are very interesting, all right, Joe. We just

701
00:39:29,840 --> 00:39:33,080
Speaker 1: traveled pretty far away from from Earth, all the way

702
00:39:33,080 --> 00:39:35,680
Speaker 1: out to to the to the far reaches of our

703
00:39:35,680 --> 00:39:38,680
Speaker 1: solar system. So it makes sense that at this point

704
00:39:38,680 --> 00:39:42,080
Speaker 1: in the podcast, we've moved, we've moved further and further

705
00:39:42,160 --> 00:39:46,520
Speaker 1: away from our original starting point. Let's get into some

706
00:39:46,640 --> 00:39:50,480
Speaker 1: conspiracy theories about snow, which, oh, this was also new

707
00:39:50,560 --> 00:39:52,480
Speaker 1: to me. I really didn't think about the fact that

708
00:39:52,480 --> 00:39:55,960
Speaker 1: there would be conspiracy theories about the content of our snow.

709
00:39:56,120 --> 00:39:59,240
Speaker 1: Of course, there are because they're they're always conspiracy theories

710
00:39:59,239 --> 00:40:02,000
Speaker 1: about whether for some reason, whether is a big thing

711
00:40:02,120 --> 00:40:05,960
Speaker 1: and conspiracy thing. Really, yeah, anytime there's a strange weather event,

712
00:40:06,080 --> 00:40:09,160
Speaker 1: and so of course big snowstorms are no different. There

713
00:40:09,200 --> 00:40:13,160
Speaker 1: have been conspiracy theories about snow storms, and one of

714
00:40:13,200 --> 00:40:18,239
Speaker 1: them is the Atlanta Snowmageddon that happened in January. We're

715
00:40:18,239 --> 00:40:20,680
Speaker 1: bringing it all back home, so if you don't know,

716
00:40:20,920 --> 00:40:24,680
Speaker 1: Robert and Kristen and I we record out of Atlanta, Georgia,

717
00:40:25,239 --> 00:40:32,840
Speaker 1: and in January, Atlanta, Georgia was essentially smashed into pieces

718
00:40:32,960 --> 00:40:36,120
Speaker 1: by two inches of snow. Yeah, just completely shut down.

719
00:40:36,520 --> 00:40:39,319
Speaker 1: Um and a lot of it had to do with

720
00:40:39,360 --> 00:40:43,320
Speaker 1: this preparation for it and how everyone, Includingland City responded

721
00:40:43,360 --> 00:40:46,799
Speaker 1: initially in terms of shutting things down, the fact that

722
00:40:46,840 --> 00:40:49,799
Speaker 1: there are more cars in Atlanta than there are atoms.

723
00:40:51,400 --> 00:40:54,359
Speaker 1: I mean, it was a big problem. The freeways were

724
00:40:54,400 --> 00:40:56,480
Speaker 1: jammed with cars that were stuck in the snow. People

725
00:40:56,520 --> 00:40:59,080
Speaker 1: were freaking out of it, trying to trying to find

726
00:40:59,080 --> 00:41:01,440
Speaker 1: ways to get home. A lot of people couldn't. They

727
00:41:01,440 --> 00:41:04,920
Speaker 1: were stuck in a McDonald's overnight or something like that.

728
00:41:05,000 --> 00:41:07,600
Speaker 1: I mean, it was a it was a big problem.

729
00:41:08,320 --> 00:41:10,600
Speaker 1: I don't know what happened to you, Robert did Did

730
00:41:10,640 --> 00:41:12,799
Speaker 1: you get home? All right? Yeah? We we didn't have

731
00:41:12,840 --> 00:41:16,279
Speaker 1: any problem. Uh we were just at home with our

732
00:41:16,280 --> 00:41:20,640
Speaker 1: son during that time, and uh he was just amazed

733
00:41:20,680 --> 00:41:22,880
Speaker 1: by the snow and didn't really like going out in it.

734
00:41:23,000 --> 00:41:26,360
Speaker 1: But uh, yeah, I was very lucky too. It was

735
00:41:26,480 --> 00:41:29,319
Speaker 1: very fortunate I got home and didn't really encounter any

736
00:41:29,320 --> 00:41:31,520
Speaker 1: major problems. But we all, I think we all knew

737
00:41:31,520 --> 00:41:35,080
Speaker 1: people who were either stuck at work or stuck you know,

738
00:41:35,120 --> 00:41:38,440
Speaker 1: even worse somewhere between work and home, or caught at

739
00:41:38,440 --> 00:41:40,839
Speaker 1: the airport. They were just like everybody had it, had

740
00:41:40,840 --> 00:41:44,640
Speaker 1: those stories at least in their initial orbit. Yeah. But

741
00:41:44,840 --> 00:41:47,000
Speaker 1: for a lot of people, this was not just a

742
00:41:47,040 --> 00:41:50,600
Speaker 1: major uh does that a major you know weather event

743
00:41:50,680 --> 00:41:53,439
Speaker 1: and problem in the city. It was a big wake

744
00:41:53,560 --> 00:41:56,200
Speaker 1: up sheep all moment. You know. They were like, get

745
00:41:56,239 --> 00:41:59,160
Speaker 1: your kids to stop making snow angels because that snow

746
00:41:59,320 --> 00:42:06,440
Speaker 1: is fake and it's c I a satanism. Huh Okay, well,

747
00:42:06,280 --> 00:42:08,359
Speaker 1: well let's hear this. Let's hear that the argument for

748
00:42:08,880 --> 00:42:12,520
Speaker 1: why Atlanta was subjected to fake snow and how how

749
00:42:12,520 --> 00:42:14,120
Speaker 1: would you even know? How do you prove that this

750
00:42:14,239 --> 00:42:17,160
Speaker 1: is fake snow as opposed to real snow. Well, the

751
00:42:17,239 --> 00:42:20,840
Speaker 1: general principle behind this conspiracy theory might be older, but

752
00:42:21,040 --> 00:42:24,960
Speaker 1: a wave of videos emerged in the winner of and

753
00:42:25,160 --> 00:42:28,520
Speaker 1: the standard setup goes like this. A guy gets his camera,

754
00:42:28,600 --> 00:42:31,239
Speaker 1: he goes outside, and he scoops up some snow from

755
00:42:31,239 --> 00:42:34,040
Speaker 1: his yard, and he brings it inside and he rolls

756
00:42:34,080 --> 00:42:36,520
Speaker 1: it in his palm to pack it into a little

757
00:42:36,520 --> 00:42:39,800
Speaker 1: snowball or a little snow tube, and then he holds

758
00:42:39,800 --> 00:42:43,440
Speaker 1: a cigarette lighter up to it, and much to our surprise,

759
00:42:43,560 --> 00:42:46,880
Speaker 1: the snow does not melt into water and drip away,

760
00:42:47,680 --> 00:42:49,840
Speaker 1: or at least not as fast as we would expect.

761
00:42:51,000 --> 00:42:54,359
Speaker 1: Instead of liquefying and dripping onto the floor. The part

762
00:42:54,400 --> 00:42:56,840
Speaker 1: of the snow exposed to the lighter looks like it

763
00:42:57,200 --> 00:43:01,319
Speaker 1: kind of collapses in on itself, and then it turns

764
00:43:01,440 --> 00:43:05,360
Speaker 1: gray or black. And then the narrator observes that the

765
00:43:05,440 --> 00:43:12,200
Speaker 1: snow must be fake plastic, toxic chemicals, harp juice, geoengineering nanoparticles.

766
00:43:12,920 --> 00:43:16,200
Speaker 1: You know about HARP, M not sure I do. It's

767
00:43:16,239 --> 00:43:19,880
Speaker 1: a radio transmission research project up in Alaska that a

768
00:43:19,880 --> 00:43:24,200
Speaker 1: lot of conspiracy theorists think is I don't know, being

769
00:43:24,320 --> 00:43:27,480
Speaker 1: used to create earthquakes or create bad weather events at

770
00:43:27,520 --> 00:43:30,040
Speaker 1: more these weather conspiracs. Okay, so it's a conspiracy theory

771
00:43:30,120 --> 00:43:32,879
Speaker 1: touchdown area, Yeah yeah, yeah, so they think it's it's

772
00:43:33,239 --> 00:43:35,560
Speaker 1: has something to do with that, or it's chem trails,

773
00:43:35,640 --> 00:43:39,439
Speaker 1: or it's geoengineering nanoparticles or nano robots or some other

774
00:43:39,520 --> 00:43:44,400
Speaker 1: evil substance. Uh, and then they exhort yonder sheeple to awaken. Okay,

775
00:43:46,239 --> 00:43:50,000
Speaker 1: what what's the motive? Not quite sure? I mean, was

776
00:43:50,040 --> 00:43:52,440
Speaker 1: it just like there were some Yankee scientists who are

777
00:43:52,480 --> 00:43:54,839
Speaker 1: trying to make it Landol look foolish by shutting down

778
00:43:54,840 --> 00:43:56,920
Speaker 1: the city with two inches of fake snow. That was

779
00:43:56,920 --> 00:44:00,920
Speaker 1: one of the results. That's yeah, I don't know, but anyway,

780
00:44:00,960 --> 00:44:03,239
Speaker 1: several be some sort of corporate espionage thing because you

781
00:44:03,320 --> 00:44:07,560
Speaker 1: end up shutting down the city economically, So maybe there

782
00:44:07,640 --> 00:44:11,480
Speaker 1: was some hidden nefarious purpose there. I suppose we'll never know.

783
00:44:12,200 --> 00:44:15,520
Speaker 1: But anyway, so there are several scientists and skeptics who

784
00:44:15,520 --> 00:44:17,520
Speaker 1: took a crack at this to see what was going on.

785
00:44:18,040 --> 00:44:22,320
Speaker 1: The first observation, it obviously wasn't a conspiracy to cripple

786
00:44:22,400 --> 00:44:25,600
Speaker 1: Atlanta or the Southeast in particular with this stuff, because

787
00:44:25,680 --> 00:44:29,480
Speaker 1: people from other regions burned their snowballs with cigarette lighters

788
00:44:29,719 --> 00:44:32,919
Speaker 1: and got the same result. So if this is a conspiracy,

789
00:44:32,960 --> 00:44:35,839
Speaker 1: it's a global conspiracy. This is probably more a situation

790
00:44:36,000 --> 00:44:40,239
Speaker 1: of most people don't try to burn snowballs, and and

791
00:44:40,440 --> 00:44:43,279
Speaker 1: surprisingly the result of trying to burn snow snowballs is

792
00:44:43,320 --> 00:44:46,759
Speaker 1: different than you might expect. Right, that's exactly what's going on.

793
00:44:46,840 --> 00:44:49,120
Speaker 1: So what is happening with the snow? Why does it

794
00:44:49,239 --> 00:44:53,200
Speaker 1: do this? Uh? First of all, why doesn't it drip?

795
00:44:53,239 --> 00:44:55,719
Speaker 1: You would you would expect, I mean I certainly intuitively

796
00:44:55,760 --> 00:44:57,840
Speaker 1: would have expected if you hold a lighter up to

797
00:44:57,840 --> 00:45:00,600
Speaker 1: a snowball, it's gonna drip water all over the floor.

798
00:45:01,040 --> 00:45:05,400
Speaker 1: And that does That doesn't seem to happen. Here's the explanation.

799
00:45:06,200 --> 00:45:13,319
Speaker 1: Freshly fallen snow is like nine to nine air, Okay,

800
00:45:13,360 --> 00:45:15,520
Speaker 1: So and this is the reason why snow. You know,

801
00:45:15,560 --> 00:45:18,960
Speaker 1: you have some animals that will dig a snow cave

802
00:45:19,440 --> 00:45:22,080
Speaker 1: for insulation from the cold, and you think like, wait,

803
00:45:22,160 --> 00:45:24,560
Speaker 1: how can that protect them from the cold if they're

804
00:45:24,560 --> 00:45:30,080
Speaker 1: in the snow? Yeah, totally true. So the snow has

805
00:45:30,120 --> 00:45:32,399
Speaker 1: a lot of gaps in it, and with all these

806
00:45:32,400 --> 00:45:35,120
Speaker 1: little pockets of air in it, the air can't really

807
00:45:35,120 --> 00:45:38,600
Speaker 1: move around, and it ends up creating a good insulation

808
00:45:38,680 --> 00:45:41,879
Speaker 1: layer between the what's going on inside and the heat

809
00:45:41,920 --> 00:45:46,280
Speaker 1: from the outside. Anyway, it's not very dense, so snow,

810
00:45:46,440 --> 00:45:50,280
Speaker 1: even packed snow packed into a snowball, is less dense

811
00:45:50,320 --> 00:45:53,400
Speaker 1: than ice or liquid water. It's kind of like wool

812
00:45:53,640 --> 00:45:57,120
Speaker 1: or any other loose solid material. It's full of wonderful

813
00:45:57,120 --> 00:46:00,960
Speaker 1: little pockets and tunnels and spaces for liqu water to

814
00:46:01,040 --> 00:46:05,440
Speaker 1: be absorbed. And so when you hold a lighter up

815
00:46:05,440 --> 00:46:09,160
Speaker 1: to a snowball and melt the water, the water is melting,

816
00:46:09,200 --> 00:46:12,200
Speaker 1: the ice is melting and turning into liquid water, but

817
00:46:12,280 --> 00:46:17,080
Speaker 1: it's being absorbed up into all those pockets in the snowball,

818
00:46:17,080 --> 00:46:20,520
Speaker 1: those little holes and places for liquid water to go. Okay,

819
00:46:20,560 --> 00:46:22,040
Speaker 1: So it's not like just how it would be like

820
00:46:22,080 --> 00:46:24,839
Speaker 1: holding the lighter up to a chunk of ice, for instance, right,

821
00:46:24,880 --> 00:46:26,320
Speaker 1: And it's true, if you hold a lighter up to

822
00:46:26,360 --> 00:46:29,320
Speaker 1: a chunk of ice, it'll drip. The snowball doesn't drip

823
00:46:29,400 --> 00:46:33,080
Speaker 1: very much. What's the explanation though, for the blackening? That's

824
00:46:33,120 --> 00:46:35,560
Speaker 1: the really weird thing and holding a lighter, holding a

825
00:46:35,560 --> 00:46:38,080
Speaker 1: cigarette lighter up to a snowball and then the snowball

826
00:46:38,080 --> 00:46:41,120
Speaker 1: appears to get scorched, it turns gray or black. I mean,

827
00:46:41,880 --> 00:46:45,000
Speaker 1: water isn't supposed to get scorched. That doesn't happen, and

828
00:46:45,080 --> 00:46:48,320
Speaker 1: it's true the water is in fact not getting scorched.

829
00:46:48,360 --> 00:46:50,720
Speaker 1: What's going on here is that the lighters that people

830
00:46:50,760 --> 00:46:54,440
Speaker 1: are using in these videos are standard butane lighters. The

831
00:46:54,719 --> 00:46:57,480
Speaker 1: fuel is butane, which is a hydrocarbon fuel. It's C

832
00:46:57,719 --> 00:47:01,120
Speaker 1: four H tin, and it does doesn't always burned with

833
00:47:01,200 --> 00:47:04,719
Speaker 1: perfect efficiency. C four H tin reacts in a combustion

834
00:47:04,800 --> 00:47:07,800
Speaker 1: reaction with oxygen that creates C O two so carbon

835
00:47:07,840 --> 00:47:11,480
Speaker 1: dioxide and then water H two oh. But it also

836
00:47:11,560 --> 00:47:15,440
Speaker 1: sometimes produces a pollutant byproduct to the fact that it

837
00:47:15,520 --> 00:47:19,400
Speaker 1: doesn't burn perfectly clean. And these are extra carbon particles.

838
00:47:19,719 --> 00:47:23,520
Speaker 1: The carbon particles are black, and we call them soot. Okay,

839
00:47:23,560 --> 00:47:25,440
Speaker 1: so we kind of get down to the black snow

840
00:47:25,840 --> 00:47:28,640
Speaker 1: situation we had earlier with the power plant pumping up

841
00:47:29,040 --> 00:47:31,879
Speaker 1: a bunch of black foot into the atmosphere. Exactly. Yeah,

842
00:47:31,880 --> 00:47:36,000
Speaker 1: So you're what's going on when you're snowball turns black

843
00:47:36,120 --> 00:47:38,839
Speaker 1: when you cook it with the lighter. Is not that

844
00:47:38,880 --> 00:47:42,600
Speaker 1: the snow is turning black. You are polluting the snowball

845
00:47:42,680 --> 00:47:46,440
Speaker 1: with soot from the lighter you're using. The soot collects

846
00:47:46,440 --> 00:47:49,720
Speaker 1: on the clean white snowball and stains at a darker color.

847
00:47:50,680 --> 00:47:55,759
Speaker 1: So here's the real conspiracy theory deathblow. People said, well,

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Speaker 1: what if we heat the snowball in a different way

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Speaker 1: than with a lighter, like if we put it in

850
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Speaker 1: a bowl in the microwave or in a pan on

851
00:48:03,040 --> 00:48:05,600
Speaker 1: the stove, And what do you know? It melted into

852
00:48:05,640 --> 00:48:08,920
Speaker 1: regular water just fine. Uh. Though in the pan, an

853
00:48:08,960 --> 00:48:11,120
Speaker 1: interesting thing that you can see happen is that the

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00:48:11,200 --> 00:48:14,120
Speaker 1: part of the snowball that's touching the pan on the bottom,

855
00:48:14,800 --> 00:48:17,440
Speaker 1: it begins to melt first, and then the rest of

856
00:48:17,480 --> 00:48:20,920
Speaker 1: the snowball absorbs the liquid water. You can see the

857
00:48:20,960 --> 00:48:25,240
Speaker 1: water level of flowing up as if by capillary action

858
00:48:25,880 --> 00:48:30,160
Speaker 1: into the snowball above it. And uh and there you

859
00:48:30,200 --> 00:48:32,839
Speaker 1: pretty much have what's going on. And this gives us

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00:48:32,840 --> 00:48:37,279
Speaker 1: a new activity to enjoy on on snow days this year. Yeah,

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00:48:37,320 --> 00:48:41,839
Speaker 1: frying snowballs is that is now? That's got to be

862
00:48:41,880 --> 00:48:45,640
Speaker 1: the next big state fair food. Right. They've got they've

863
00:48:45,680 --> 00:48:50,120
Speaker 1: got they've got deep fried Snickers bars, deep fried kool aid,

864
00:48:50,200 --> 00:48:52,520
Speaker 1: And the next thing is going to be deep fried

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Speaker 1: snow maybe. Well, I mean you did fried ice cream, right,

866
00:48:57,440 --> 00:48:59,359
Speaker 1: I've never had that? What what do you do with that?

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Speaker 1: How does it not melt? I think it's well, it's

868
00:49:02,080 --> 00:49:03,560
Speaker 1: been a long time since I've had it. I seem

869
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Speaker 1: to recall that it is, uh like really cold ice cream,

870
00:49:08,239 --> 00:49:11,080
Speaker 1: and it's just fried so quickly that it's the ice

871
00:49:11,120 --> 00:49:13,839
Speaker 1: cream is melting as you open it up. But it's

872
00:49:13,840 --> 00:49:16,400
Speaker 1: been it's been a long time since I had it. Likewise,

873
00:49:16,400 --> 00:49:18,799
Speaker 1: it's been a long time since I've had us. You know,

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Speaker 1: what do you what do you call it when you

875
00:49:20,200 --> 00:49:22,480
Speaker 1: just had sugar to the snow and you eat it?

876
00:49:23,080 --> 00:49:25,239
Speaker 1: Snow cone? Well, I guess you could call it that.

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00:49:25,280 --> 00:49:28,440
Speaker 1: We had we called it something different though as a kid, Oh,

878
00:49:28,520 --> 00:49:31,040
Speaker 1: snow cone is a good analogy for what's going on here. Actually,

879
00:49:31,080 --> 00:49:33,200
Speaker 1: if you pour the syrup into a snow cone, yeah,

880
00:49:33,280 --> 00:49:37,719
Speaker 1: it's absorbed into the snow. The yeah. But anyway. One

881
00:49:37,800 --> 00:49:40,000
Speaker 1: of one of the best sources I found on this

882
00:49:40,160 --> 00:49:44,520
Speaker 1: was the was the astronomer and skeptic blogger Phil plates

883
00:49:44,560 --> 00:49:48,520
Speaker 1: blog posts over its slate Bad Astronomy, Yeah, yeah, bad astronomer.

884
00:49:48,560 --> 00:49:50,839
Speaker 1: He he had a really good breakdown of exactly what's

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Speaker 1: going on, and I think he has the most thorough

886
00:49:52,840 --> 00:49:57,200
Speaker 1: explanation of of exactly why this is not snow you

887
00:49:57,200 --> 00:50:01,799
Speaker 1: should be worried about. Okay, alright, So so, in other words,

888
00:50:01,840 --> 00:50:04,839
Speaker 1: when it comes to generating conspiracy theories about the next

889
00:50:04,840 --> 00:50:10,040
Speaker 1: big snowfall, look elsewhere. We've already we've already thoroughly explained

890
00:50:10,440 --> 00:50:14,760
Speaker 1: the fake snow, the blackening snow, the snow that won't melt.

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Speaker 1: On the other hand, as our as our several lessons

892
00:50:17,440 --> 00:50:21,240
Speaker 1: from Siberia have taught us, if you do see snow

893
00:50:21,440 --> 00:50:24,920
Speaker 1: that seems to be laden with chemicals, it's entirely possible

894
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Speaker 1: that this is some kind of weird industrial byproduct or

895
00:50:27,840 --> 00:50:30,800
Speaker 1: otherwise not good snow and might be worth bringing to

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Speaker 1: somebody's attention. So it's possible that that not all snow

897
00:50:35,440 --> 00:50:37,560
Speaker 1: is good snow. Yeah, and yeah, and if it's a

898
00:50:37,560 --> 00:50:40,880
Speaker 1: strange color, you maybe think twice before you attempt to

899
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Speaker 1: deep fry it for the fair. So they have it

900
00:50:44,520 --> 00:50:48,000
Speaker 1: some weird snow, some space snow, some multicolored snow, some

901
00:50:48,120 --> 00:50:52,160
Speaker 1: evil snow. Yeah, So there's a little more material for

902
00:50:52,160 --> 00:50:55,120
Speaker 1: you to think about when when the white stuff starts falling.

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Speaker 1: This winter on you and you begin to wonder if

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Speaker 1: you're going to school or work the next morning. Okay, so, honestly,

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Speaker 1: do you think we're going to get any snow here

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00:51:02,560 --> 00:51:05,440
Speaker 1: in Atlanta this year? Ba's on what we've seen so far,

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00:51:05,520 --> 00:51:08,040
Speaker 1: I would say no. I would say this year is off.

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00:51:08,320 --> 00:51:10,399
Speaker 1: But you know, so the way things have been going

909
00:51:10,440 --> 00:51:13,840
Speaker 1: recently with the crazy weathered patterns, maybe we'll get in July. Yeah,

910
00:51:13,880 --> 00:51:16,920
Speaker 1: who knows? Yeah, all right, that's it. In the meantime,

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