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Speaker 1: To teas in a pod which Teddy Mellencamp and Tamra Judge. Hi, guys,

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Speaker 1: for those of you subscribed, welcome to Twatch Flashback with myself,

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Speaker 1: Teddy Mellencamp and tambrid Judge.

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Speaker 2: How's it going. It's going good, It's going good. Are

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Speaker 2: you enjoying the flashback? Watching the old episodes? Looking at

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Speaker 2: the clothes and the sunglasses it used to be in

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Speaker 2: Style fifteen fourteen years ago. It's entertaining.

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Speaker 1: I just as I'm watching this, all I can think

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Speaker 1: about is thank god I never watched this prior to

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Speaker 1: joining Beverly Hill.

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Speaker 2: But why, I mean, the lack of lamb and filler

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Speaker 2: is just over the top, the lack of everything, but

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Speaker 2: also just so many relationships and so many people have

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Speaker 2: like changed for the good, the bad, the whatever, and

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Speaker 2: then some people have stayed exactly the system. Yeah. So

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Speaker 2: I wasn't a big fan of Kamil, not no shit,

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Speaker 2: who could be? Oh yeah, it was just bad. It

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Speaker 2: was bad news.

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Speaker 1: Well we are for those of you guys following along.

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Speaker 1: This is episode five and six of Season one of

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Speaker 1: Real Housewives of Beverly Hills. Episode five is named I

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Speaker 1: would never say that November eleventh, twenty ten, was the air.

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Speaker 2: Date thirteen years ago.

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Speaker 1: We love to start with a synopsis. Oh synopsis from

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Speaker 1: this episode, It's good Grammar. When Camille hosts a trip

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Speaker 1: to New York to see a Broadway musical starring her

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Speaker 1: husband Kelsey Grammer, the trip is a potential flop. However,

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Speaker 1: when bad news hits Adrian and Kyle frets over a

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Speaker 1: past tussle with Camille. It starts out where Camille tells

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Speaker 1: her friend Nick that she and Kyle are having a

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Speaker 1: little tip. Camille says, Kyle said, why would anyone be

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Speaker 1: interested in being with you without Kelsey there? Camille thought, Wow,

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Speaker 1: am I that invisible?

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Speaker 3: At this point?

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Speaker 1: Where do you stand on what's brewing between Camille and Kyle.

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Speaker 2: Well, first of all, we never heard Kyle say those words,

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Speaker 2: and it looks a lot like Camille is trying to

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Speaker 2: twist her words make it into something it's not. What

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Speaker 2: I didn't like is her sister didn't stand up for her.

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Speaker 2: That was total bullshit.

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Speaker 3: She just had to like that part will get into it.

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Speaker 2: I don't want to get in the middle. I feel

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Speaker 2: like there's two sides to every story. I think there's

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Speaker 2: something in the middle. I don't think that Kyle would

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Speaker 2: say something like that, Well why would you why would

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Speaker 2: they want to do that if Kelsey's not there, Like,

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Speaker 2: it just doesn't sound like something I mean.

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Speaker 3: And the fact that it all happened off camera, Yeah.

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Speaker 2: It's very suspicious. And I don't like the way I

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Speaker 2: feel like Camille is definitely acting for the cameras the

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Speaker 2: whole thing with Nick and I just like to flirt

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Speaker 2: with him and touch.

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Speaker 3: But also what about when Nick's wife was there?

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Speaker 1: Oh, and like we learned that he had a new baby,

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Speaker 1: and yet all of the eye contact between Nick and Camille.

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Speaker 3: It's honestly like that.

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Speaker 2: Do you I know? But do you think she did

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Speaker 2: it for the show? Do you think they actually have

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Speaker 2: the sexual tension between them? I just don't know, he

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Speaker 3: Total bullshit.

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Speaker 1: But like honestly, like this is the like look at

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Speaker 1: me right now, like they're like, I know it was.

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Speaker 2: It wasn't embarrassing. And I mean, she's married. I'm I'm

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Speaker 2: sure she's quite clear that her relationship was coming to

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Speaker 1: But also if she was trying to make Kelsey, Let's

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Speaker 1: just play Devil's advocate. Let's say this whole thing with

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Speaker 1: Nick was solely to make Kelsey jealous.

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Speaker 3: This is with a married man.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, And at this point, I'm also very curious why

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Speaker 2: Well, Adrian obviously had some death in the family, so

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Speaker 3: Knowing what Nick does.

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Speaker 1: Maybe he's a tennis instructor, but I don't know if

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Speaker 3: He's like, so tell me about this and this, and

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Speaker 1: And then I started thinking, is she trying to do

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know. I mean, she treats him like

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Speaker 2: I want to believe that she's doing it for airtime,

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Speaker 2: which I can relate to, but it just it looks nasty.

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Speaker 3: And just blatantly flirting in front of the wife.

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Speaker 2: I mean, say, like, why aren't you naked and in

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Speaker 1: It's like really, And then there was an emotional moment

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Speaker 3: I feel like they're at Swirl, which I think is

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Speaker 3: like a Beverly Hills not Swirl. Shoot, what is that?

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Speaker 1: Squirrels in San Clementy? Yeah, Swirls in San Clementy, where

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Speaker 1: you guys always shop. But there's another store is it? No?

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Speaker 2: No, what's the girl's name, Nony or something like that

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Speaker 2: Kyle went? That's where Kyle went.

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Speaker 1: It's at the Glenn Center. And it's like this one

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Speaker 1: Oh my god, I'm still there. I've shopped there multiple times.

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Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, I think it was the store was

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Speaker 1: But while they're shopping, Adrian gets a call that her

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Speaker 1: uncle passed away. At this moment, you do see a

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Speaker 1: different side of Adrian, because I feel like, up till now,

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Speaker 2: Oh my god, the amount you could I mean, you

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Speaker 2: but you. I feel like Paul really loved her, and

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Speaker 2: Yeah, everything he does, breathing, eating, looking, walking, chewing.

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Speaker 1: But he did say something that was very It was

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Speaker 1: we've been bickering since the day we met, Like so

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Speaker 1: it was something that I think for a while they

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Speaker 1: much anyone can take of doing that, especially when it's

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Speaker 2: I know, but I do love did you love her?

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Speaker 2: I forgot about that her wedding dress at the end

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Speaker 2: Yes, like she has it behind glass. It's like from

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Speaker 3: Oh my gosh. My Nicole Miller Ones just rolled up

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Speaker 2: And well I was Cinderella, Mark Sanino. I had three

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Speaker 3: You look like Cinderella. Not that you didn't get to

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Speaker 2: No, I didn't get to keep one of them.

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Speaker 1: We we kind of get over to back to Camille

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Speaker 1: and Nick, and then we get over to where Lisa

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Speaker 1: goes over to Kyle's house to see a hypnotherapist to

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Speaker 3: Do you think this actually worked?

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Speaker 1: Like when he threw their hands down, I was like,

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Speaker 1: I do know a lot of people that smoke cigarettes

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Speaker 2: You really believe what you want to believe, you believe

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Speaker 1: But either way, that guy was giving the fact that

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Speaker 3: Up, knowing that she didn't believe she was. I was

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Speaker 2: I gotta believe back then when she first started the show,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I get it.

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Speaker 3: Therapy on the show. But she's since seasons one, since

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Speaker 2: Seasons one, Yes, you guys did a couple therapies. No,

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Speaker 2: that's what all the women oh, yes, yes, yes, they

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Speaker 2: gave you a lot of shit for that. That's right.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, they're like, who does couples therapy?

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Speaker 2: But it was friendship therapy as just when.

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Speaker 1: recap that another couple therapy session. But then the women

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Speaker 2: I swear Kim and Kyle are the worst enemies. I

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Speaker 3: It's season one. You show up, you figure it out.

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Speaker 1: But also between Kelsey and Camille, I need them to

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Speaker 1: And then right when they land, Kyle pulls Camille aside

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Speaker 3: But she's like, you don't need to be insecure about that.

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Speaker 3: That's not what I meant.

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Speaker 2: She's good at twisting words. Who Kyle, Camille, Camille, you

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Speaker 2: it was just Kyle basically saying, are you and Kelsey

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Speaker 1: Then saying, oh, wow, that's like they're going to film

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Speaker 2: Yeah, just you, that is different. But they couldn't. So

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Speaker 2: Kyle got the screws put to her because it was

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Speaker 3: But now.

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Speaker 2: The fourth wall, they wouldn't let us at all break

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Speaker 2: When Kim broke the fourth wall with Croy, they were

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Speaker 2: that's what people want to see.

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Speaker 3: Now.

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Speaker 1: We love it because it just makes it all and

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Speaker 3: But what then it seemed like they were actually fine.

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Speaker 1: But this is what Camille has not changed to this day,

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Speaker 3: No.

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Speaker 1: I would have been like in that moment where Kyle

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Speaker 3: Then they get down to dinner, they're still in the

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Speaker 1: No time has really passed right, and Camille brings up

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Speaker 1: Kyle's comment about her being insecure and thinks it was wrong.

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Speaker 3: Kyle says, it's only to dig to someone who struggles

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Speaker 1: This is where you can see like Kyle's Tama coming

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Speaker 2: Of it all the housewife and me is coming out

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Speaker 3: I was like, here she comes.

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Speaker 1: But then I was like, what is going on with

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Speaker 2: I know, and her comment like, well what did she say? Oh,

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Speaker 3: You lose, you lost, Kyle. I wanted this one.

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Speaker 2: And I was like, if you truly she was, She goes,

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Speaker 2: I'm winning because Kyle is losing her cool. Sorry, Kyle,

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Speaker 2: you lose. With her little smirk, it was just, oh,

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Speaker 1: But then what about how Camille said on her mother

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Speaker 1: who has cancer, that Kyle said it Kyle utters her

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Speaker 2: Yes, you're such a I know to this day you

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Speaker 1: And and I have to say, my opinion has not

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Speaker 3: She tries to use them.

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Speaker 2: Do we know Camille's background, Like where's she from? Did

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Speaker 1: I don't think so. I think she just grew up regular.

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Speaker 2: Money all the time, like, oh my god, there's more

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Speaker 3: And also confines confined spaces.

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Speaker 3: Moments in time where I.

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Speaker 1: Tellighly enjoy just like being in that space where you

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Speaker 2: Like, how are we gonna have my house manager or

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Speaker 3: Then they pan to the people she's paying to do

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Speaker 1: And I'm not saying that you can't be real friends

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Speaker 2: Yeah, there's still yeah, yeah, I mean, and I'm not

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Speaker 2: I mean, you're admitting you're not friends.

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Speaker 3: With these girls. Ugh, I mean, I just it really

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Speaker 2: But then I just wanted to say bye, come in.

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Speaker 3: Not just say why not say that?

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Speaker 2: What is wrong with her? Like that kissed me off?

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Speaker 3: Yeah? But then of course they do a little break

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Speaker 3: and then we get into the Art of War. Episode six.

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Speaker 3: The ladies continue to chomp out of the Big Apple,

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Speaker 2: Oh do do do?

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Speaker 1: So? Here's where I feel like is a case of

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Speaker 1: Lisa was the one who was prompting Taylor to call

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Speaker 2: No, not at all.

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Speaker 1: And for me to have Lisa vander Pump's back knowing

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Speaker 2: I love her. I think she's freaking hilarious.

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Speaker 3: She Oh my god, sorry, she's moving. No, it's no apologies.

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Speaker 1: At this point in time, I don't think Lisa vander

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Speaker 1: She sees the relationship going sour, she tries to pull

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Speaker 1: Kim says that Taylor was the one to call Kamille insecure.

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Speaker 1: Taylor says, no, don't drag me into this. Kim says,

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Speaker 3: I don't know Taylor like this is what we need.

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Speaker 1: Because at this point, I gotta say, I'm more on

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Speaker 1: Because I'm not saying that Kim needed to go to

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Speaker 3: this is what Kyle said.

443
00:22:45,840 --> 00:22:48,520
Speaker 2: Wait, you said you're on the side of Kim and Taylor.

444
00:22:49,760 --> 00:22:53,399
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm on when it comes to the tailor thing.

445
00:22:53,480 --> 00:22:57,560
Speaker 1: Because they flashed back to Taylor in the airport calling

446
00:22:58,480 --> 00:22:59,400
Speaker 1: Camille insecure.

447
00:22:59,560 --> 00:23:02,560
Speaker 2: Oh I didn't I that she went right over my head.

448
00:23:02,680 --> 00:23:04,720
Speaker 2: I didn't know that, okay, so I get it. Okay,

449
00:23:04,760 --> 00:23:07,120
Speaker 2: So she did say it, but what was the context

450
00:23:07,200 --> 00:23:07,359
Speaker 2: of it.

451
00:23:08,000 --> 00:23:09,119
Speaker 3: She said, I think that.

452
00:23:10,720 --> 00:23:13,639
Speaker 1: After all of these years of being with Kelsey and

453
00:23:13,840 --> 00:23:16,920
Speaker 1: being oh, she agrees with Kim.

454
00:23:17,359 --> 00:23:21,879
Speaker 2: Kim says it first, Yeah, I don't remember, okay, so

455
00:23:22,000 --> 00:23:22,480
Speaker 2: that so I.

456
00:23:22,560 --> 00:23:25,399
Speaker 1: Guess exactly what happened. We had to get corrected because

457
00:23:25,920 --> 00:23:27,680
Speaker 1: you know, sometimes wrong.

458
00:23:28,000 --> 00:23:31,119
Speaker 2: Yeah, sometimes, But let's't say I don't remember that. But

459
00:23:31,280 --> 00:23:34,119
Speaker 2: she was just repeating what was said. She did, so

460
00:23:34,280 --> 00:23:36,440
Speaker 2: it was not her words. So we are not on

461
00:23:36,560 --> 00:23:38,480
Speaker 2: Kim's side on this, we are on Taylor's side.

462
00:23:39,240 --> 00:23:41,840
Speaker 1: Well, I'm not fully on Taylor's side because agreeing and

463
00:23:42,119 --> 00:23:45,600
Speaker 1: co signing on it. You could say, well, I don't

464
00:23:45,600 --> 00:23:47,960
Speaker 1: really think it means she's insecure, she doesn't.

465
00:23:47,720 --> 00:23:54,440
Speaker 2: Have her back, But does the word Camille is over secure? No,

466
00:23:55,200 --> 00:23:58,120
Speaker 2: you don't think maybe she acts away because she's super insecure.

467
00:23:58,119 --> 00:23:59,879
Speaker 2: But I feel like just watching her, like she's so

468
00:24:00,200 --> 00:24:04,320
Speaker 2: sure of herself. I think that she almost like she's

469
00:24:04,359 --> 00:24:06,840
Speaker 2: above everybody on the cast, because you could tell like

470
00:24:06,920 --> 00:24:08,760
Speaker 2: she's like, I have more money than all of you.

471
00:24:09,840 --> 00:24:10,960
Speaker 3: I don't even think it's that.

472
00:24:11,280 --> 00:24:16,080
Speaker 1: I think that when you don't have any female friendships

473
00:24:16,760 --> 00:24:19,480
Speaker 1: and everybody in your life is paid.

474
00:24:20,400 --> 00:24:24,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, you don't have a clear sense of self.

475
00:24:24,640 --> 00:24:27,680
Speaker 2: Well, if you don't have any female friendships, then that's

476
00:24:27,720 --> 00:24:30,600
Speaker 2: a you problem. But also if you don't have any

477
00:24:30,680 --> 00:24:33,840
Speaker 2: friends that you aren't paying, that's a you problem.

478
00:24:34,160 --> 00:24:36,399
Speaker 1: That's also you problem, because then there's no one to

479
00:24:36,560 --> 00:24:39,760
Speaker 1: check you, Like if I do something stupid, I have you,

480
00:24:40,080 --> 00:24:42,760
Speaker 1: and probably I don't know fifteen other women in my

481
00:24:42,920 --> 00:24:46,440
Speaker 1: life that are gonna be like Teddy, you step on

482
00:24:46,520 --> 00:24:50,240
Speaker 1: this one. You know, have some humble pie or whatever

483
00:24:50,359 --> 00:24:58,440
Speaker 1: it may be. But Camille had lvp's number from the

484
00:24:58,560 --> 00:25:04,359
Speaker 1: very first season. She says that she is machia velic,

485
00:25:05,200 --> 00:25:06,840
Speaker 1: which means I had to google.

486
00:25:07,160 --> 00:25:09,440
Speaker 3: Don't you worry? Do you know what machia velc means?

487
00:25:09,480 --> 00:25:11,720
Speaker 3: Tamra machia velan.

488
00:25:12,080 --> 00:25:14,160
Speaker 2: I don't even know how to say it. Say it again.

489
00:25:14,240 --> 00:25:15,840
Speaker 2: Put it in a sentence. Let's see if I can.

490
00:25:16,160 --> 00:25:17,960
Speaker 2: Don't ask me to spell it, but put it in

491
00:25:18,080 --> 00:25:19,520
Speaker 2: a sentence and let me see if I can.

492
00:25:20,040 --> 00:25:22,600
Speaker 3: Her behavior is very machia velic.

493
00:25:23,600 --> 00:25:26,080
Speaker 2: It's very sporadic. I don't know what is it.

494
00:25:26,280 --> 00:25:31,200
Speaker 3: No machiavelic is marked by cunning, duplicity, or bad faith.

495
00:25:31,640 --> 00:25:32,000
Speaker 3: I don't know.

496
00:25:32,080 --> 00:25:34,200
Speaker 2: It's a stupid word. Why can't you just simplify it

497
00:25:34,320 --> 00:25:36,440
Speaker 2: and say bad behavior?

498
00:25:37,280 --> 00:25:38,400
Speaker 3: It's not bad behavior?

499
00:25:38,640 --> 00:25:39,000
Speaker 4: What is it?

500
00:25:39,080 --> 00:25:39,240
Speaker 2: Then?

501
00:25:39,359 --> 00:25:39,719
Speaker 3: Cunning?

502
00:25:40,080 --> 00:25:41,040
Speaker 2: In bad faith?

503
00:25:41,240 --> 00:25:42,280
Speaker 3: It's like being shady.

504
00:25:42,720 --> 00:25:43,720
Speaker 2: Well, that's bad behavior.

505
00:25:55,720 --> 00:25:57,280
Speaker 3: They were back in Beverly Hills.

506
00:25:57,640 --> 00:26:03,080
Speaker 1: They go to the show. It's super awkward. There's like dancing,

507
00:26:03,280 --> 00:26:07,640
Speaker 1: Kelsey's like Kyle says, she's nervous about what Kelsey's gonna say.

508
00:26:07,840 --> 00:26:11,119
Speaker 1: But then what Camille kept saying I also thought, was

509
00:26:11,200 --> 00:26:15,960
Speaker 1: like so cringe, and she's like, you know, mining Kelsey's realtor.

510
00:26:16,200 --> 00:26:19,640
Speaker 1: He's just like a small time Beverly Hill's realtor. It's

511
00:26:19,720 --> 00:26:27,280
Speaker 1: nothing like my Emmy winning winner of Everything a list star.

512
00:26:27,480 --> 00:26:32,240
Speaker 2: Like I stop, stop and we're going off on we

513
00:26:32,359 --> 00:26:36,040
Speaker 2: cannot use Mauricio. Now, now that Kyle has attacked me,

514
00:26:36,600 --> 00:26:38,840
Speaker 2: I'm like, bitch, what attack?

515
00:26:39,560 --> 00:26:42,000
Speaker 3: She said verbally assaulted.

516
00:26:43,359 --> 00:26:47,800
Speaker 2: It's like that right there, that is putting sound bites

517
00:26:47,800 --> 00:26:50,000
Speaker 2: out there, which happens a lot of times on Housewives.

518
00:26:50,080 --> 00:26:51,680
Speaker 2: If if you're smart enough to know that if you

519
00:26:51,760 --> 00:26:54,320
Speaker 2: put a SoundBite out there to say somebody's mean or somebody,

520
00:26:54,320 --> 00:26:57,720
Speaker 2: if you say it over and over again. Unfortunately, the

521
00:26:57,800 --> 00:27:00,800
Speaker 2: audience will start believing it even if they don't see anything.

522
00:27:00,920 --> 00:27:03,720
Speaker 2: So for her to say that, she's trying to persuade

523
00:27:03,760 --> 00:27:07,320
Speaker 2: the viewers that Kyle is verbally abusive.

524
00:27:08,000 --> 00:27:10,080
Speaker 3: So if I were to say there was an additional

525
00:27:10,200 --> 00:27:13,960
Speaker 3: person that was machia velic in this episode.

526
00:27:13,600 --> 00:27:15,119
Speaker 2: It's Camille, It's Camille.

527
00:27:15,280 --> 00:27:15,440
Speaker 3: Yeah.

528
00:27:16,200 --> 00:27:18,720
Speaker 1: But then we're back in Beverly Hills and Adrianne is

529
00:27:18,760 --> 00:27:22,160
Speaker 1: getting ready for her uncle's funeral, and of course she's.

530
00:27:22,000 --> 00:27:27,640
Speaker 3: Annoyed at Paul for dilly dialing. Shocker shocker. Adriane says,

531
00:27:27,680 --> 00:27:30,200
Speaker 3: they bicker, but they've been married for over eight years.

532
00:27:30,080 --> 00:27:32,720
Speaker 2: Eight whole years. That's when a lot of people get divorced.

533
00:27:34,160 --> 00:27:36,159
Speaker 2: It should be the eight year inch, I know, not

534
00:27:36,280 --> 00:27:37,000
Speaker 2: the seven year itch.

535
00:27:38,680 --> 00:27:41,000
Speaker 3: But there has to be something in a man.

536
00:27:41,200 --> 00:27:45,360
Speaker 1: As I'm watching him try to do her necklace necklace,

537
00:27:45,600 --> 00:27:46,720
Speaker 1: it corrects me if I'm wrong.

538
00:27:46,800 --> 00:27:50,119
Speaker 3: There has to be something in a man's DNA that.

539
00:27:50,280 --> 00:27:53,359
Speaker 1: Does not allow them the capacity to learn how to

540
00:27:53,480 --> 00:27:58,480
Speaker 1: properly hook a necklace or undo a bra strap or

541
00:27:59,119 --> 00:28:00,480
Speaker 1: like there are certain thing.

542
00:28:00,440 --> 00:28:02,080
Speaker 2: I don't know. Eddie doesn't have a problem with it,

543
00:28:02,560 --> 00:28:07,320
Speaker 2: although he can do your necklace. Yeah no, Edwin is like,

544
00:28:08,440 --> 00:28:10,240
Speaker 2: oh really, I mean.

545
00:28:11,440 --> 00:28:15,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, even my brasstrop. I'm like, you should have had enough. Yeah,

546
00:28:15,040 --> 00:28:15,399
Speaker 3: you should have.

547
00:28:15,680 --> 00:28:18,960
Speaker 2: You should have mastered that in high school, Like I remember.

548
00:28:18,760 --> 00:28:20,920
Speaker 1: Thinking it was really cool, like if somebody could do

549
00:28:20,960 --> 00:28:22,280
Speaker 1: it with one like a guy to do it with

550
00:28:22,400 --> 00:28:24,040
Speaker 1: one hand and just look it open.

551
00:28:24,480 --> 00:28:26,879
Speaker 3: Granted, now I don't even wear that. I wear like

552
00:28:27,040 --> 00:28:28,639
Speaker 3: old lady bras, I didn't even have.

553
00:28:28,920 --> 00:28:32,000
Speaker 2: I don't even wear I wear nipple covers. But Paul

554
00:28:32,080 --> 00:28:34,840
Speaker 2: seems to worship the ground that Adrian walks on, but

555
00:28:34,960 --> 00:28:37,320
Speaker 2: Adrian just looks at him with disgust. I mean, I

556
00:28:37,440 --> 00:28:40,320
Speaker 2: feel sorry for him at this point, but I.

557
00:28:40,600 --> 00:28:44,720
Speaker 1: Actually did until the part where you can I feel

558
00:28:44,760 --> 00:28:47,520
Speaker 1: like Adrian just had enough of his ship, like we're

559
00:28:47,840 --> 00:28:49,760
Speaker 1: catching it where she just had enough of his ship.

560
00:28:50,080 --> 00:28:52,920
Speaker 1: It's right after the funeral, there's time to connect with

561
00:28:53,000 --> 00:28:55,800
Speaker 1: the family. Paul goes out to drinks with his friends,

562
00:28:56,560 --> 00:28:59,960
Speaker 1: and it's just like one of those things like after

563
00:29:00,000 --> 00:29:04,200
Speaker 1: a certain amount of time, if somebody doesn't isn't there

564
00:29:04,320 --> 00:29:07,440
Speaker 1: for you and the mental capacity that you need, You're

565
00:29:07,480 --> 00:29:08,640
Speaker 1: just going to be a dick to them.

566
00:29:09,520 --> 00:29:10,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, I get it.

567
00:29:10,800 --> 00:29:11,360
Speaker 3: I have a question.

568
00:29:11,520 --> 00:29:15,080
Speaker 2: Is Kyle and Camille friendly now? I think I saw

569
00:29:15,280 --> 00:29:17,600
Speaker 2: like a Instagram post they met at the dentist on

570
00:29:17,720 --> 00:29:18,840
Speaker 2: accident or something like that.

571
00:29:20,400 --> 00:29:24,000
Speaker 1: Well, you have to remember, years and years later, Camille

572
00:29:24,240 --> 00:29:26,160
Speaker 1: asked Kyle to be in her wedding.

573
00:29:27,000 --> 00:29:28,200
Speaker 2: Oh, I can't wait to get to that.

574
00:29:28,920 --> 00:29:30,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean that's when I'm in.

575
00:29:30,760 --> 00:29:32,120
Speaker 2: Do you think back then there was some kind of

576
00:29:32,160 --> 00:29:34,360
Speaker 2: jealousy going on between Kyle and Camille.

577
00:29:34,600 --> 00:29:40,440
Speaker 1: On Camille's side, I think that Kyle is relatable and

578
00:29:40,640 --> 00:29:44,680
Speaker 1: funny and people like her, like just in general, like it.

579
00:29:44,840 --> 00:29:47,160
Speaker 1: Put Kyle in any room and people are gonna laugh

580
00:29:47,200 --> 00:29:47,640
Speaker 1: at Kyle.

581
00:29:48,160 --> 00:29:50,000
Speaker 2: But there's something not to like about Kyle. So that's

582
00:29:50,040 --> 00:29:54,080
Speaker 2: what's crazy. But one thing that I did acknowledge is that,

583
00:29:54,720 --> 00:29:57,560
Speaker 2: like you said, she surrounds herself with people that pay

584
00:29:57,680 --> 00:30:00,400
Speaker 2: her and they're very yes, yes, yes to her and

585
00:30:00,480 --> 00:30:03,360
Speaker 2: tell her how wonderful, like DD saying her friend d

586
00:30:03,480 --> 00:30:07,320
Speaker 2: D saying the girls you know in Camille's life have

587
00:30:07,720 --> 00:30:11,200
Speaker 2: some sort of jealousy towards her, Like, I would never

588
00:30:11,320 --> 00:30:14,160
Speaker 2: say that to you, Like, oh, Teddy, I know you

589
00:30:14,280 --> 00:30:17,280
Speaker 2: have problems with girls, but they're always so jealous of you.

590
00:30:17,840 --> 00:30:20,760
Speaker 2: I'd be like Teddy, knock it off, and I gotta.

591
00:30:20,600 --> 00:30:25,480
Speaker 3: Be really honest. I don't care how many awards Kelsey Grammer.

592
00:30:25,280 --> 00:30:28,800
Speaker 1: Has won or how much money they have, not for

593
00:30:28,960 --> 00:30:31,440
Speaker 1: one second watching their dynamic was I like.

594
00:30:31,520 --> 00:30:33,280
Speaker 3: God, I'm so jealous. That's not me.

595
00:30:34,040 --> 00:30:35,840
Speaker 2: No, I don't get like that.

596
00:30:36,160 --> 00:30:36,920
Speaker 3: But I have a question.

597
00:30:37,040 --> 00:30:40,400
Speaker 1: Does the word and secure upset you? Like, if somebody

598
00:30:40,480 --> 00:30:44,040
Speaker 1: were to say the word and secure, does it make

599
00:30:44,080 --> 00:30:44,440
Speaker 1: you mad?

600
00:30:44,760 --> 00:30:47,920
Speaker 2: It used to. I was called insecure like season eleven

601
00:30:48,560 --> 00:30:51,880
Speaker 2: for what it was my worst year in Bali and

602
00:30:52,000 --> 00:30:54,480
Speaker 2: there everybody's coming after me and they're like, you're just

603
00:30:54,680 --> 00:30:57,880
Speaker 2: You're the biggest insecure person I've ever met. And I

604
00:30:58,120 --> 00:31:00,600
Speaker 2: was just so overwhelmed and I just left. But yeah,

605
00:31:00,760 --> 00:31:03,080
Speaker 2: it does. It does bug at that point. At that

606
00:31:03,200 --> 00:31:06,560
Speaker 2: point now probably yeah. I was going through a divorce,

607
00:31:06,600 --> 00:31:08,440
Speaker 2: a custody battle, all kinds of things. I don't know

608
00:31:08,480 --> 00:31:11,920
Speaker 2: if insecure is the word, but it I wasn't in

609
00:31:11,960 --> 00:31:14,840
Speaker 2: a good spot, so hearing that threw me over the edge.

610
00:31:14,880 --> 00:31:17,320
Speaker 2: Now I'm like whatever, I'm getting older now, so I

611
00:31:17,320 --> 00:31:19,320
Speaker 2: don't really give two shits what people think or say

612
00:31:19,720 --> 00:31:22,400
Speaker 2: to me or what their opinion is about me. I

613
00:31:22,520 --> 00:31:23,800
Speaker 2: mean I'm doing pretty damn well.

614
00:31:24,680 --> 00:31:27,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I think there's all always things that

615
00:31:27,360 --> 00:31:30,040
Speaker 1: I can be insecure about, but it's you know, what.

616
00:31:30,080 --> 00:31:33,959
Speaker 2: I'm insecure about, maybe not insecure, but I look up

617
00:31:34,040 --> 00:31:36,840
Speaker 2: to and it could be jealous of. Something is somebody

618
00:31:36,920 --> 00:31:40,560
Speaker 2: that a girl my age, it's super fit, like super

619
00:31:40,720 --> 00:31:45,000
Speaker 2: like I'm fit, but I mean I'm talking competition fit

620
00:31:45,160 --> 00:31:48,920
Speaker 2: with the ripped abs and the bulging bicet. Like I

621
00:31:49,080 --> 00:31:52,080
Speaker 2: love that look, but it's so hard to achieve. So

622
00:31:52,200 --> 00:31:54,960
Speaker 2: I always like praise and look and go, oh, I

623
00:31:55,080 --> 00:31:57,240
Speaker 2: wish I could do that. I just can't commit my

624
00:31:57,480 --> 00:31:59,600
Speaker 2: entire day and night to fitness.

625
00:32:00,240 --> 00:32:02,480
Speaker 3: Well for me, what I covet.

626
00:32:04,160 --> 00:32:07,760
Speaker 2: There you go use those big words covet what I because.

627
00:32:07,560 --> 00:32:09,840
Speaker 1: It's not that I'm jealous of, It's just something I

628
00:32:10,040 --> 00:32:14,080
Speaker 1: always like would aspire to be. Is just someone who's

629
00:32:14,320 --> 00:32:19,880
Speaker 1: able to just like live life, like not be an

630
00:32:19,960 --> 00:32:22,760
Speaker 1: overplan or not be this like it's last night.

631
00:32:22,920 --> 00:32:23,120
Speaker 3: I have.

632
00:32:23,520 --> 00:32:27,200
Speaker 1: I've been not people that don't stress, people that don't stress,

633
00:32:27,240 --> 00:32:29,920
Speaker 1: like I will be creating lists on lists on lists,

634
00:32:29,960 --> 00:32:31,920
Speaker 1: and I know part of it's because I'm you know,

635
00:32:32,160 --> 00:32:36,160
Speaker 1: diagnosed OCD, but like I just can't turn my brain off.

636
00:32:36,640 --> 00:32:40,400
Speaker 1: So for people that can that is like, but it's

637
00:32:40,480 --> 00:32:43,520
Speaker 1: not an act. I try to turn my biggest insecurity

638
00:32:43,560 --> 00:32:45,640
Speaker 1: into my superpower. I'm like, well, at least I'm on my.

639
00:32:45,720 --> 00:32:50,960
Speaker 3: Shit like Mathn's fallen through the cracks. But it is like,

640
00:32:51,160 --> 00:32:54,200
Speaker 3: I do see women that can be like that, and

641
00:32:54,240 --> 00:32:55,920
Speaker 3: I'm like, gosh, why can't I be like that?

642
00:32:56,160 --> 00:32:58,960
Speaker 2: Eddie's like that, and I'm not. I don't have OCD,

643
00:32:59,200 --> 00:33:01,920
Speaker 2: but I do worry. I got this from my grandmother.

644
00:33:01,960 --> 00:33:04,960
Speaker 2: I worry about everything. I worry, Okay, when I leave,

645
00:33:05,240 --> 00:33:07,480
Speaker 2: like Sophia going to do this and Eddie this, and

646
00:33:07,760 --> 00:33:09,880
Speaker 2: I feel like after micromanage and get everything ready, and

647
00:33:11,120 --> 00:33:15,360
Speaker 2: Eddie's like, doesn't have a worry in the world. The

648
00:33:15,440 --> 00:33:16,840
Speaker 2: guy does not worry.

649
00:33:17,640 --> 00:33:22,400
Speaker 1: I know, I know Edwin, Edwin, you know Edwin doesn't

650
00:33:22,440 --> 00:33:25,600
Speaker 1: really have a worry. He just like doesn't want to

651
00:33:25,640 --> 00:33:28,600
Speaker 1: overthink things because then it will stress them out. Then

652
00:33:28,640 --> 00:33:31,120
Speaker 1: we get to Kyle tells Kim that she did not

653
00:33:31,320 --> 00:33:34,240
Speaker 1: speak up for her against Camille. Kim says she could

654
00:33:34,320 --> 00:33:37,440
Speaker 1: not get a word in and doesn't like conflict.

655
00:33:37,840 --> 00:33:44,000
Speaker 5: That's a fly, Kim, such a fly or cam I know, like, seriously,

656
00:33:45,600 --> 00:33:49,000
Speaker 5: I mean Kim could escape from which mountain, but she

657
00:33:49,440 --> 00:33:52,440
Speaker 5: she didn't have time to tell she couldn't.

658
00:33:52,200 --> 00:33:59,720
Speaker 1: Escape Kyle's expectations. You just constantly, you constantly see this.

659
00:34:00,400 --> 00:34:05,600
Speaker 1: Just I feel like she almost enjoyed watching Kyle get it.

660
00:34:05,960 --> 00:34:08,960
Speaker 2: Yes, And I think there's definitely issues between Kyle and Kim.

661
00:34:09,000 --> 00:34:11,200
Speaker 2: It's quite obvious and it's brewing. I think this is

662
00:34:11,680 --> 00:34:17,480
Speaker 2: Kim's like sitting back, going go ahead, you gotta get

663
00:34:17,520 --> 00:34:17,959
Speaker 2: it girl.

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Speaker 4: The other thing that I found weird is when they

665
00:34:20,600 --> 00:34:27,640
Speaker 4: were at not weird. I guess interesting is interesting and interesting.

666
00:34:28,360 --> 00:34:33,160
Speaker 4: It was when Camille was in Kelsey's dressing room.

667
00:34:34,160 --> 00:34:36,799
Speaker 2: I'm like, okay, He's like, you can't get out, get out?

668
00:34:37,120 --> 00:34:37,439
Speaker 2: I don't.

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00:34:37,800 --> 00:34:41,040
Speaker 3: Well, clearly you could have read that. Camille couldn't.

670
00:34:41,360 --> 00:34:43,319
Speaker 1: So I'm like, if you can read people so well,

671
00:34:43,760 --> 00:34:46,359
Speaker 1: why couldn't you read that. Kelsey was like, get out

672
00:34:46,400 --> 00:34:47,919
Speaker 1: of here, I'll get you play books.

673
00:34:47,960 --> 00:34:50,080
Speaker 2: You know. I think she's super passive, aggressive, and I

674
00:34:50,120 --> 00:34:52,239
Speaker 2: think she knew that her marriage was over and she

675
00:34:52,520 --> 00:34:54,560
Speaker 2: was doing that just to just to get in his

676
00:34:54,680 --> 00:34:58,440
Speaker 2: face and to make good TV. Because it is evident

677
00:34:59,400 --> 00:35:01,560
Speaker 2: they don't get a it is.

678
00:35:02,040 --> 00:35:05,880
Speaker 3: Evident then they're on the way back to the airport.

679
00:35:06,080 --> 00:35:08,520
Speaker 1: Kim shares with the women how hard it was for

680
00:35:08,600 --> 00:35:10,959
Speaker 1: her in Vegas and made her start to think about

681
00:35:11,000 --> 00:35:14,680
Speaker 1: settling down and sharing her life with someone. Kim suggests

682
00:35:15,000 --> 00:35:18,160
Speaker 1: that each of them picks someone out and set them

683
00:35:18,239 --> 00:35:20,800
Speaker 1: up on a date. Lisa has someone in mind, but

684
00:35:21,000 --> 00:35:25,240
Speaker 1: he's in prison, and then nice Sam says she's open

685
00:35:25,320 --> 00:35:28,640
Speaker 1: to the age group twenty five to seventy if you

686
00:35:28,760 --> 00:35:31,040
Speaker 1: were to get a divorce from Eddie, which I would

687
00:35:31,080 --> 00:35:33,120
Speaker 1: never want I loved. Yeah, I think you're great, But

688
00:35:33,239 --> 00:35:34,799
Speaker 1: what would be your age demographic?

689
00:35:36,719 --> 00:35:39,759
Speaker 2: I would say my age ten years up. I mean,

690
00:35:39,880 --> 00:35:41,400
Speaker 2: I don't know, I'm getting up there, so I.

691
00:35:42,920 --> 00:35:43,360
Speaker 3: I don't know.

692
00:35:43,960 --> 00:35:46,960
Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't really like the old guys,

693
00:35:48,040 --> 00:35:50,240
Speaker 2: so I would like to stick to my age.

694
00:35:51,480 --> 00:35:53,359
Speaker 3: Your age, would you go younger again?

695
00:35:54,440 --> 00:35:56,480
Speaker 2: I mean like five years, But I wouldn't go like

696
00:35:56,760 --> 00:35:58,080
Speaker 2: fifteen twenty years young.

697
00:35:58,000 --> 00:35:59,920
Speaker 3: Now because I'm too tired.

698
00:36:00,280 --> 00:36:02,400
Speaker 2: I'm tired. I don't have time for that. And plus,

699
00:36:02,560 --> 00:36:05,160
Speaker 2: you know, when I Eddie was thirty, I was in

700
00:36:05,239 --> 00:36:07,120
Speaker 2: my forties, and then you know, we're both in our

701
00:36:07,160 --> 00:36:09,359
Speaker 2: fifties now, so it feels like we're the same age

702
00:36:09,440 --> 00:36:11,680
Speaker 2: and we're both old, so it doesn't matter anymore. But

703
00:36:11,840 --> 00:36:13,759
Speaker 2: back then I always had like in the back of

704
00:36:13,840 --> 00:36:15,680
Speaker 2: my head, like, oh God, is he gonna like leave

705
00:36:15,719 --> 00:36:16,560
Speaker 2: me for a younger girl.

706
00:36:17,680 --> 00:36:19,120
Speaker 3: No, he was never.

707
00:36:19,239 --> 00:36:21,000
Speaker 2: He loves you so but still when you're you know,

708
00:36:21,200 --> 00:36:25,600
Speaker 2: he's thirty and you're in your forties, Like he's thirty

709
00:36:25,719 --> 00:36:30,120
Speaker 2: nine and I'm forty five, Like it's it's weird. It's

710
00:36:30,120 --> 00:36:32,480
Speaker 2: just a weird feeling. But yeah, hot, you hot. But

711
00:36:32,600 --> 00:36:34,520
Speaker 2: now I'm just like, we're both old. Who gives a

712
00:36:34,920 --> 00:36:38,040
Speaker 2: We're all in this every time until he's fifty five

713
00:36:38,120 --> 00:36:42,680
Speaker 2: and I'm sixty. But yeah, every time that Edwin, I'm

714
00:36:42,760 --> 00:36:44,719
Speaker 2: like exhausted, and Edwin wants to get it in.

715
00:36:45,360 --> 00:36:47,200
Speaker 3: I show him that same monkey meme.

716
00:36:47,640 --> 00:36:50,279
Speaker 1: It's like this gorilla and it's like it's got its

717
00:36:50,320 --> 00:36:52,560
Speaker 1: stomach out, it's like dinger and it looks.

718
00:36:52,440 --> 00:36:55,960
Speaker 3: And I'm like, you gotta woo me with more than this, buddy.

719
00:36:56,320 --> 00:36:57,719
Speaker 2: I am tired. I need more.

720
00:36:58,080 --> 00:36:58,960
Speaker 3: I'm tired more.

721
00:37:00,080 --> 00:37:02,600
Speaker 1: And guess what We're back to Nick, our buddy. Nick

722
00:37:02,719 --> 00:37:06,040
Speaker 1: Camille tells her friend Nick that she does not trust

723
00:37:06,120 --> 00:37:09,000
Speaker 1: the girls. She says that Kyle was acting like a

724
00:37:09,120 --> 00:37:10,400
Speaker 1: crazed homeless.

725
00:37:10,040 --> 00:37:13,520
Speaker 2: Woman, praist, homeless woman.

726
00:37:14,120 --> 00:37:16,279
Speaker 3: I don't get it. Why would she.

727
00:37:17,960 --> 00:37:22,279
Speaker 1: Be Kyle Kelsey was not happy with Kyle's behavior. Camille says,

728
00:37:22,320 --> 00:37:25,320
Speaker 1: there is a big difference between Kelsey and his successes

729
00:37:25,440 --> 00:37:28,600
Speaker 1: versus Mauricio. Oh, this is what the line was the

730
00:37:28,800 --> 00:37:33,080
Speaker 1: local Beverly Hills realtor. Kelsey said, well, I guess we

731
00:37:33,239 --> 00:37:36,120
Speaker 1: will be looking for a new realtor. Then Camille does

732
00:37:36,160 --> 00:37:40,520
Speaker 1: out another big word. She says, Kyle's just pernicious, She's

733
00:37:40,800 --> 00:37:42,560
Speaker 1: and then she tries to throw out another word, but

734
00:37:42,640 --> 00:37:45,359
Speaker 1: she forgets it, so she uses pernicious twice, which really

735
00:37:45,400 --> 00:37:48,600
Speaker 1: bugs me. Which then I had to look up pernicious.

736
00:37:49,440 --> 00:37:54,560
Speaker 1: That's highly injurious or destructive, wicked, wicked?

737
00:37:55,640 --> 00:37:59,520
Speaker 3: Okay, well, and then did you hold on?

738
00:37:59,640 --> 00:38:03,360
Speaker 2: Did you see the book the book on her on

739
00:38:03,520 --> 00:38:07,320
Speaker 2: her table? It was The Art of War? No, I

740
00:38:07,400 --> 00:38:08,920
Speaker 2: didn't see that, do you?

741
00:38:09,400 --> 00:38:11,840
Speaker 1: Well? I like pans in on the book with like

742
00:38:12,000 --> 00:38:15,880
Speaker 1: there's multiple like post it notes and bookmarks. I'm like,

743
00:38:16,080 --> 00:38:18,680
Speaker 1: is this strategically placed here? Or do we think that

744
00:38:18,880 --> 00:38:20,719
Speaker 1: Nick reads it to Camille every night?

745
00:38:21,040 --> 00:38:25,040
Speaker 2: Like probably in the in the fetal position. I didn't

746
00:38:25,120 --> 00:38:27,360
Speaker 2: like the Camille saying you know Kelsey has respect in

747
00:38:27,440 --> 00:38:30,880
Speaker 2: his community, unlike Mauricio, Like, why is she going after Mauricio?

748
00:38:30,960 --> 00:38:33,160
Speaker 2: What has Mariso ever done? In fact, she said earlier

749
00:38:33,239 --> 00:38:35,360
Speaker 2: that Mariso has always been her relative.

750
00:38:36,120 --> 00:38:39,719
Speaker 1: People can call me thirsty or dehydrated or whatever it

751
00:38:39,840 --> 00:38:42,120
Speaker 1: may be, And you know what, there is no human

752
00:38:42,280 --> 00:38:44,440
Speaker 1: out there thirstier than Camille.

753
00:38:46,280 --> 00:38:47,440
Speaker 2: No, She's like, I am an agree.

754
00:38:48,160 --> 00:38:54,480
Speaker 1: I know, and that's the way I feel about it.

755
00:38:55,239 --> 00:39:00,239
Speaker 1: And I don't actually believe, truthfully, the Camille every even

756
00:39:00,280 --> 00:39:02,480
Speaker 1: told Kelsey about the fight between him and Kyle.

757
00:39:03,640 --> 00:39:05,319
Speaker 2: I know, I don't think so either. I don't even

758
00:39:05,320 --> 00:39:06,759
Speaker 2: think Kelsey would be the type of guy that.

759
00:39:06,719 --> 00:39:09,240
Speaker 3: Would get involved nor give two ships?

760
00:39:09,320 --> 00:39:11,960
Speaker 2: Give two ships? I mean, he obviously doesn't even like

761
00:39:12,040 --> 00:39:14,560
Speaker 2: his wife. Do you think he's gonna side with Kuyle?

762
00:39:14,680 --> 00:39:17,480
Speaker 2: I mean Camille over Kyle buyre a realtor?

763
00:39:17,800 --> 00:39:19,279
Speaker 3: Like do we think?

764
00:39:19,680 --> 00:39:21,920
Speaker 1: And I hate to be the bare bad news. I

765
00:39:21,960 --> 00:39:27,440
Speaker 1: don't think you guys are buying any more houses together? Kamielle, No, no, sorry, but.

766
00:39:27,560 --> 00:39:29,759
Speaker 2: She did walk away with a pretty penny from her

767
00:39:29,800 --> 00:39:30,880
Speaker 2: marriage to Kelsey, didn't she?

768
00:39:31,760 --> 00:39:33,200
Speaker 3: Whoo he did woo.

769
00:39:33,560 --> 00:39:37,279
Speaker 1: Well, we have covered another two episodes, and you know what,

770
00:39:37,360 --> 00:39:40,879
Speaker 1: I'm getting pretty hooked. And next week's episode we see

771
00:39:41,840 --> 00:39:43,960
Speaker 1: Kim go on a date. I'm not sure who sets

772
00:39:43,960 --> 00:39:45,920
Speaker 1: her up on the date, but for a second I

773
00:39:46,080 --> 00:39:49,000
Speaker 1: thought that it was Yolanda's ex husband, but it wasn't Hams.

774
00:39:50,680 --> 00:39:52,040
Speaker 3: It looked like Mohammed Alan.

775
00:39:52,360 --> 00:39:56,040
Speaker 2: Oh my god, he's O'hammed's funny. He's actually dating an

776
00:39:56,080 --> 00:39:57,160
Speaker 2: Orange County girl right now?

777
00:39:57,640 --> 00:39:59,040
Speaker 3: How old is she? Twenty?

778
00:39:59,600 --> 00:39:59,640
Speaker 1: No?

779
00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:04,320
Speaker 2: Oh, forty? Probably beautiful. Looks like Michelle Pfeiffer.

780
00:40:04,800 --> 00:40:07,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, they're all beautiful. He's always at it, open.

781
00:40:07,239 --> 00:40:11,080
Speaker 2: Model, like six fit, tall, super skinny, yep, all the things.

782
00:40:11,800 --> 00:40:14,480
Speaker 1: All right, Well, that is another episode to make sure

783
00:40:14,520 --> 00:40:16,960
Speaker 1: that you, guys tell your friends to subscribe, because you

784
00:40:17,200 --> 00:40:19,800
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785
00:40:19,960 --> 00:40:20,600
Speaker 1: enjoy it as well.

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Speaker 3: All right, thanks guys, Bye Tam Bye,