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Speaker 2: How the hell we feel in here?

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Speaker 3: Boys good, Shocked, Surprised, I just I can't believe it, man,

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Speaker 3: when I saw that news last night about USF beating

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Speaker 4: LaVar so impressive, man, the very decisive. I'll tell you

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Speaker 4: they took it to him like that, like it was

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Speaker 5: Figure.

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Speaker 3: I heard someone say, we need to stop treating Boise

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Speaker 3: tend to forget to in college football is a little

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Speaker 3: But I think everyone understands I'm not being serious. Obviously.

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Speaker 3: The the news of Micah Parsons was surprised to the

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Speaker 3: on lee Is Lee alive.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, alive. This is the best he's been ever

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Speaker 2: and some baby, what hey, Lee Lee?

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Speaker 3: Are you sober? Because I could understand if you were

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Speaker 6: Dude, I veered off the road when I saw the update.

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Speaker 6: I saw the update was like forty seven million or

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Speaker 2: How do you supposed to help? How do you supposed

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Speaker 6: So I veered into Prestiges. I was driving by it

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Speaker 6: because I saw, oh, packers, Okay, here we go.

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Speaker 2: Today's going to be a good day.

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Speaker 3: And he'd mean the weekend, the entire weekends, maybe a

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Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, very distracting day. Yeah, I'm doing very good.

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Speaker 3: Let's go, Yeah, I mean we are?

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Speaker 5: What green baby?

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Speaker 3: Just say like this?

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Speaker 2: What's Yeah?

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Speaker 4: I loved it. I loved it. I love that it

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Speaker 5: But I think.

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Speaker 4: Jerry Jones gave us an indication of what the future

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Speaker 4: pay him what they're paying him, you're looking at two

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Speaker 4: It could possibly now I don't know the whole contract

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Speaker 5: That's my take.

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Speaker 3: So you're giving up on Dak Prescott.

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Speaker 3: I don't think that's what this is about. I think

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Speaker 3: They're not gonna be in the top half the draft exactly,

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Speaker 3: Point, anyone who's sitting at number one, if they really

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Speaker 3: if anything, we've seen guys sign quarterbacks who've been veterans,

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Speaker 3: And look, he's not wrong. Kenny Clark's a good defensive tackle.

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Speaker 2: I've tried to find the well I can justify that

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Speaker 2: contracts were Micah Parsons, CD Lamb and Dak Prescott. One

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Speaker 2: Green Bay was the other team that was trying to

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Speaker 2: It just feels like, hey, man, are we sure this

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Speaker 3: This might be the most damning thing, and that includes

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Speaker 2: I'll say this right now. It's worse than the Luca

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Speaker 4: So here's the point I'm trying to drive home with that,

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Speaker 3: When you drafted. You know what I'm saying, Like this

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Speaker 4: But here's the thing. He's so good. How does that

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Speaker 5: I felt like that was a shade.

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Speaker 4: Grenade, like like, mow your lawn, make sure your lawn

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Speaker 4: I don't think there's anything that can legitimize outside of

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Speaker 5: They traded he's that good of a talent.

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Speaker 2: They traded for Charles Haley, who used to tug his

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Speaker 5: Behind Hire to two, they've hired.

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Speaker 4: They hired Greg Hardy, like do we not rem like

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Speaker 2: And also like I think it was Breer who made

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Speaker 5: What they just did. I mean, you want to know

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Speaker 2: You want to know how thrilled Mike is to be

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Speaker 3: your get your popcorn right, quarterback.

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Speaker 6: And people are people are pretty excited about their blitz

436
00:24:15,320 --> 00:24:17,879
Speaker 6: Blitz packages with the Quay Walker and Edrin Cooper.

437
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Speaker 2: Lee, pull your trousers up. Okay, like this has been

438
00:24:21,359 --> 00:24:24,280
Speaker 2: going on for way too long after this news, Lee.

439
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Speaker 3: I mean, doesn't everyone excited about their Blitz packages. Yeah,

440
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Speaker 3: Like what gets people excited is when they can win

441
00:24:33,480 --> 00:24:37,439
Speaker 3: against one on one battles. It's just like they're excited

442
00:24:37,440 --> 00:24:40,119
Speaker 3: about their big ole of a blitz too. By the way, Yeah,

443
00:24:41,080 --> 00:24:44,280
Speaker 3: they're gonna bring in Johnson and kway Walker and some

444
00:24:44,320 --> 00:24:46,080
Speaker 3: of these other guys are excited about their Blitz package.

445
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Speaker 2: Only are you getting a Michaeh Parson's number. Who's got

446
00:24:49,720 --> 00:24:52,800
Speaker 2: the number eleven now? Is Jayden Reed?

447
00:24:52,920 --> 00:24:53,120
Speaker 5: Who?

448
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Speaker 6: Of course I was bummed waking up to the news

449
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Speaker 6: that he is a Jones fracture that he decided not

450
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Speaker 6: to get surgery on and that he's playing through.

451
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Speaker 2: Hey, Mike had just had a Jones fracture too, That's good.

452
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Speaker 4: That was very well, Jonas, that was very very well.

453
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Speaker 4: Who was the linebacker y'all had that had the dreads?

454
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Speaker 4: Is he still there?

455
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Speaker 5: I don't know.

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Speaker 4: I forget he was a middle backer or something to

457
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Speaker 4: that effect. Super athletics and thumper maybe off It wasn't number.

458
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Speaker 5: I can't remember. I can't remember the dreads.

459
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Speaker 3: He had long haird.

460
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Speaker 5: Who was who was the who? Like you're you're a

461
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Speaker 5: fan of Green Bay League? Who had no? No?

462
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Speaker 2: No?

463
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Speaker 4: That was a long flowing locks. That was the lock

464
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Speaker 4: era of white boys. It's not Clay No.

465
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Speaker 2: We had the we had the line.

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Speaker 4: Back well Cooper that that had dreads. I don't know

467
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Speaker 4: who it was, but had I had one linebacker that

468
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Speaker 4: had dreads and he was a animal out there.

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Speaker 3: You know what's interesting about your comment about the dreads.

470
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Speaker 3: On if I had said that, people be like, oh,

471
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Speaker 3: that guy's racist. He's just identifying him by dreads.

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Speaker 4: Oh that's not true, because you can see it coming

473
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Speaker 4: out of their helmet.

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Speaker 5: That's that's how Yeah. But like exactly who it was,

475
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Speaker 5: you don't know.

476
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Speaker 2: You can't identify.

477
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Speaker 5: Identify racist.

478
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Speaker 6: I mean you immediately have me thinking of, you know,

479
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Speaker 6: the Mike Mackenzie l Harris days. But oh, I know

480
00:26:36,400 --> 00:26:40,520
Speaker 6: you're talking about well Jens Jalen Smith also from Former Cowboy.

481
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Speaker 2: He was there for a minute and he had long

482
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Speaker 2: I know, are you thinking of Devondra Campbell?

483
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Speaker 5: Maybe that's the name you're thinking of, Devondra Campbell.

484
00:26:50,920 --> 00:26:55,000
Speaker 4: Maybe that's the name that sounds about right. That's he's a.

485
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Speaker 5: Thumper, Yeah, Andre, he was a thumper.

486
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Speaker 3: Yeah, he was a thumper. He had dreads, but he

487
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Speaker 3: was a thumper, go to.

488
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Speaker 4: That's exactly who I'm talking about. So he played for

489
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Speaker 4: the forty nine ers.

490
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Speaker 5: Now, okay, not sure that?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Lee, can you uh, Lee, can you filter filter

492
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Speaker 2: your NFL search to PA players with dreads? Little filter

493
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Speaker 2: on your search?

494
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Speaker 5: Player? Is that the dude that walked off the field

495
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Speaker 5: city wasn't playing any Yeah?

496
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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, Yeah, he's prob was a great day a

497
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Speaker 3: couple of years ago. He's a free agent now, but

498
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Speaker 3: he was, Yeah, probably gonna be dreads you ideas, probably

499
00:27:32,480 --> 00:27:34,960
Speaker 3: gonna be a free agent for a while, yeahs based

500
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Speaker 3: on that move.

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Speaker 2: So kind of burying the lead. Yesterday was the start

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Speaker 2: of the long Labor day college football weekend. Hell yeah,

533
00:28:56,040 --> 00:29:01,600
Speaker 2: College football's back. Oh yeah, full throttle, full bottle. And

534
00:29:01,640 --> 00:29:04,240
Speaker 2: it started off with what some people might look at

535
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Speaker 2: as an upset. But can you really claim an upset

536
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Speaker 2: if a team's twenty fifth in Week one? Can you

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Speaker 2: really claim that as an upset based on what South

538
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Speaker 2: Florida did, because who the hell knows what?

539
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Speaker 5: You know?

540
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Speaker 2: Florida State I think was a top ten team last

541
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Speaker 2: year and they got annihilated.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, there's there's like a number of teams Florida State,

543
00:29:22,800 --> 00:29:25,400
Speaker 3: Texas and m Those two are the biggest culprits as

544
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Speaker 3: far as being ranked in the top twenty five to

545
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Speaker 3: start a season then finishing much lower than the ranking.

546
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Speaker 3: But yeah, look, last night was awesome. A ton of

547
00:29:35,680 --> 00:29:39,880
Speaker 3: college football on a ton of a ton of cool storylines. Obviously,

548
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Speaker 3: Eddie George, head coach of Boy and Green State, that

549
00:29:42,240 --> 00:29:45,719
Speaker 3: he gets his first win. Pretty dominant performance there. Deshaun

550
00:29:45,800 --> 00:29:48,520
Speaker 3: Jackson at Delaware State did not get his first win,

551
00:29:49,320 --> 00:29:52,000
Speaker 3: but kind of kicking off here as a head coach, Yeah.

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Speaker 5: It will if they actually scored a touchdown.

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Speaker 4: That guy called back that you know was a pivotal

554
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Speaker 4: moment in the game.

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Speaker 3: But oh no, I was gonna say, you go going

556
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Speaker 3: through the list. I mean, Nebraska obviously tight win over Cincinnati,

557
00:30:05,440 --> 00:30:08,719
Speaker 3: that was a cool atmosphere. I'm not sure either Cincinnati

558
00:30:08,800 --> 00:30:11,280
Speaker 3: or you know, Nebraska's going to play a big factor

559
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Speaker 3: into the Big twelve or Big Ten. Most likely more spoilers.

560
00:30:15,440 --> 00:30:18,000
Speaker 3: Maybe they could pull off some upsets. But there's probably

561
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Speaker 3: a lot of conversation you could have about Matt Rule.

562
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Speaker 3: Where's he at in his tenure, Dylan Ryola, you know,

563
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Speaker 3: what's what's he going to be or how is he

564
00:30:24,400 --> 00:30:26,880
Speaker 3: going to be viewed? And given all the hype about

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Speaker 3: him coming into that Nebraska program coming out of high school. Yeah,

566
00:30:30,200 --> 00:30:31,480
Speaker 3: but you go on down the line, I mean a

567
00:30:31,480 --> 00:30:34,560
Speaker 3: lot of good football last night. Wisconsin low scoring win,

568
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Speaker 3: their quarterback, their transfer quarterback, Billy Edwards, who came from Maryland.

569
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Speaker 3: He went down with a lower body injury. So right

570
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Speaker 3: away Wisconsin and Luke Coole already you know, hit with

571
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Speaker 3: some adversity. We'll see what that looks like moving forward.

572
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Speaker 3: But you know, just a great night of football altogether.

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Speaker 2: I mean, you got by the way Armies playing later on.

574
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Speaker 2: Do you see Armies gonna start serving booze at their games?

575
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Speaker 2: They were the last academy but you know, have alcohol

576
00:31:00,720 --> 00:31:04,240
Speaker 2: and now they're going to get you know, get.

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Speaker 3: A little back to your initial point though about the rankings.

578
00:31:08,720 --> 00:31:12,920
Speaker 3: It is interesting that you know, and the associated press

579
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Speaker 3: like they're trying to do their best, like the coachbol

580
00:31:15,000 --> 00:31:18,200
Speaker 3: everyone else, to try to get it right. But I

581
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Speaker 3: really don't believe there should be rankings until the College

582
00:31:21,200 --> 00:31:24,960
Speaker 3: Football Playoff Committee comes out because the ape pole doesn't matter.

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Speaker 3: It really doesn't matter. And I think one of the

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Speaker 3: things that it would allow and force the College Footballlayoff

585
00:31:32,600 --> 00:31:36,959
Speaker 3: Committee to do is actually watch the games, like instead

586
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Speaker 3: of looking at a metric and blindly saying, well, they've

587
00:31:40,880 --> 00:31:44,000
Speaker 3: got this money wins over ranked opponents. Okay, but those

588
00:31:44,000 --> 00:31:47,560
Speaker 3: are ranked opponents with a poll that you guys don't

589
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Speaker 3: believe it because you have your own poll. So why

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Speaker 3: are you giving that any weight? Why don't just go

591
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Speaker 3: watch the game? Did they look like they were dominant?

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Speaker 3: Did they look like they were a team that should

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Speaker 3: be playing for the national championship? I mean, it's part

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Speaker 3: of the gripe I think with you know, when we

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Speaker 3: have these committees, how we go about putting a bunch

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Speaker 3: of people in a room to then select which twelve

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Speaker 3: teams should play off for right now or sixteen one day.

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Speaker 3: It's much easier when you have the NFL format and

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Speaker 3: it's just you've got qualifiers and you know, those teams

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Speaker 3: that play, they they win, they get in. It's more

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Speaker 3: subjective in college football, and part of the problem is

602
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Speaker 3: it's really really hard if you are not ranked, to

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Speaker 3: change the perception of everyone else out there, including the

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Speaker 3: College Football Playoff Committee. If you are ranked and go

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Speaker 3: through the years and look at all the teams that

606
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Speaker 3: have been maybe they're you know, the bottom of the

607
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Speaker 3: top twenty five or unranked coming into it, it literally

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Speaker 3: takes you nine weeks until the College FOOTBA Playoff Committee

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00:32:49,440 --> 00:32:52,040
Speaker 3: or any other ranking that you let's use the eight people.

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Speaker 3: Since they go from wire to wire, it takes them

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Speaker 3: about nine weeks ten weeks before they start to actually

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Speaker 3: believe in those teams to get up to that point.

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Speaker 3: And it's it's a problem because there's not enough you know, inclusion.

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Speaker 3: I think in looking at some of these teams that

615
00:33:08,320 --> 00:33:10,320
Speaker 3: you know, maybe they view them as the fortieth best team,

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Speaker 3: Well they did in weeks one, you know, two and three,

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Speaker 3: but all of a sudden at the end of the season,

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Speaker 3: maybe the one of that's best top ten teams.

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Speaker 2: It's almost as if it does more bad than good,

620
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Speaker 2: you know, for teams that are lower on the rankings.

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Speaker 2: And you know what I hate about it too, is

622
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Speaker 2: I agree with you, we don't know whether these teams

623
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Speaker 2: are good or not. But I'm still a sucker for it.

624
00:33:30,480 --> 00:33:33,080
Speaker 2: Like I will, I will side towards If two games

625
00:33:33,160 --> 00:33:36,840
Speaker 2: are on, I'm more likely to watch or at least

626
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Speaker 2: check out first the one that's got the little number

627
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Speaker 2: next to the teams.

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Speaker 4: That's the point, and I can't stand that.

629
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Speaker 2: I fall for it every year, and I do Like

630
00:33:45,480 --> 00:33:48,600
Speaker 2: Texas Ohio State's a whole nother animal, like that's that's historic.

631
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Speaker 2: We've never seen anything like or not seen a lot

632
00:33:51,040 --> 00:33:53,320
Speaker 2: of it like it to open up a season. But

633
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Speaker 2: I'm telling you this weekend, I'm gonna fall victim to it.

634
00:33:55,640 --> 00:33:57,640
Speaker 2: I'm gonna watch a game or prefer to watch a

635
00:33:57,680 --> 00:34:00,800
Speaker 2: game first that's got a little number next two. So

636
00:34:00,840 --> 00:34:01,720
Speaker 2: it's still worse it sh.

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Speaker 4: It just gives you the feeling that it's a more

638
00:34:03,600 --> 00:34:08,440
Speaker 4: marquee matchup. But again, and it's always interesting because it

639
00:34:08,600 --> 00:34:13,920
Speaker 4: makes the loss or the win bigger. Like I like

640
00:34:14,120 --> 00:34:19,840
Speaker 4: Boise going down yesterday, it like made it bigger, Like, oh.

641
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Speaker 5: How should I feel about UCF? WHOA, how should I

642
00:34:23,719 --> 00:34:25,440
Speaker 5: feel about Boise? You know what I mean?

643
00:34:25,680 --> 00:34:29,040
Speaker 4: But if they didn't have those rankings on their USF,

644
00:34:29,120 --> 00:34:30,279
Speaker 4: whata you you?

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00:34:30,840 --> 00:34:31,080
Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 5: One of them? Yeah, it's one of them. Florida too. Yeah.

647
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Speaker 4: I just think that it makes the it makes the

648
00:34:37,480 --> 00:34:40,879
Speaker 4: losses and the wins bigger because in the end, if

649
00:34:40,880 --> 00:34:44,400
Speaker 4: we're really thinking about it, most teams aren't playing games

650
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Speaker 4: like Ohio State and Texas are going to do this weekend,

651
00:34:47,600 --> 00:34:50,920
Speaker 4: or Notre Damon and Miami. You're not You're not seeing

652
00:34:50,960 --> 00:34:54,799
Speaker 4: those types of match up history on And what's that?

653
00:34:56,800 --> 00:34:58,280
Speaker 5: What say that again?

654
00:34:59,280 --> 00:35:00,279
Speaker 3: Penn State?

655
00:35:02,640 --> 00:35:05,560
Speaker 5: Get here? You couldn't catch that that little little.

656
00:35:07,760 --> 00:35:09,719
Speaker 4: There's a little static on the line, couldn't hear with

657
00:35:09,800 --> 00:35:12,920
Speaker 4: your little technical difficulties there. But my point that I

658
00:35:13,040 --> 00:35:16,040
Speaker 4: was making is you're not going to play against teams

659
00:35:16,440 --> 00:35:19,680
Speaker 4: where you can determine where they should be ranked anyway

660
00:35:20,200 --> 00:35:22,960
Speaker 4: on in early in the year, right, And so if

661
00:35:23,000 --> 00:35:25,319
Speaker 4: you were to happen to be a team that's a

662
00:35:25,360 --> 00:35:28,359
Speaker 4: really really high ranked team or team people are high on,

663
00:35:28,440 --> 00:35:30,960
Speaker 4: and you end up losing to like a No. Name

664
00:35:31,080 --> 00:35:34,560
Speaker 4: school early on in the year. You know, it's kind

665
00:35:34,560 --> 00:35:37,680
Speaker 4: of like how do you how do you judge them?

666
00:35:38,000 --> 00:35:40,200
Speaker 4: I mean, we had that happen last year and they

667
00:35:40,280 --> 00:35:42,680
Speaker 4: ended up playing for a national title, you know what

668
00:35:42,719 --> 00:35:45,359
Speaker 4: I mean. So it's just kind of like, how does that?

669
00:35:45,840 --> 00:35:49,480
Speaker 4: You know, how are we supposed to go about looking

670
00:35:49,520 --> 00:35:51,640
Speaker 4: at how you rank them? And when do you start?

671
00:35:51,640 --> 00:35:55,279
Speaker 4: Do you start once they get into conference play or

672
00:35:55,920 --> 00:35:58,040
Speaker 4: you know, how how do you do it? Because I

673
00:35:58,080 --> 00:36:00,440
Speaker 4: don't think that you can get an accurate read out

674
00:36:00,680 --> 00:36:01,560
Speaker 4: one way or the other.

675
00:36:01,800 --> 00:36:04,520
Speaker 2: What about in the year, what about after four weeks?

676
00:36:05,280 --> 00:36:07,400
Speaker 2: Like if the AP wants to step in after four weeks,

677
00:36:07,400 --> 00:36:09,200
Speaker 2: after the first month of the season.

678
00:36:09,840 --> 00:36:14,399
Speaker 4: Four weeks would represent you playing your first conference game, right,

679
00:36:14,440 --> 00:36:18,759
Speaker 4: because you have like two or three that are non conference,

680
00:36:18,880 --> 00:36:19,920
Speaker 4: right two or three?

681
00:36:20,120 --> 00:36:21,000
Speaker 5: Is it three?

682
00:36:21,000 --> 00:36:23,600
Speaker 3: But three? Well, it depends on the conference. The SEC

683
00:36:23,719 --> 00:36:24,160
Speaker 3: this year.

684
00:36:24,040 --> 00:36:25,440
Speaker 5: Will play four four.

685
00:36:25,840 --> 00:36:28,560
Speaker 3: However, they're going to be changing get to nine conference

686
00:36:28,600 --> 00:36:32,520
Speaker 3: games next year. So yeah, but that's technically, you know,

687
00:36:32,600 --> 00:36:35,279
Speaker 3: not true though. Some teams play conference games week one

688
00:36:35,400 --> 00:36:35,959
Speaker 3: or weeks zero.

689
00:36:35,960 --> 00:36:37,359
Speaker 5: Week one. We did it last year.

690
00:36:37,680 --> 00:36:41,160
Speaker 3: We went week zero, Kansas State, IWA, STAG just did it.

691
00:36:41,360 --> 00:36:44,359
Speaker 5: So yep. Yeah, So I don't know.

692
00:36:44,400 --> 00:36:46,400
Speaker 4: I don't I don't really know how you come up

693
00:36:46,440 --> 00:36:50,120
Speaker 4: with how to start ranking them when you start ranking them,

694
00:36:50,160 --> 00:36:52,319
Speaker 4: because I don't know that you're going to get an

695
00:36:52,440 --> 00:36:56,799
Speaker 4: accurate readout on what type of teams these teams are.

696
00:36:57,160 --> 00:36:58,919
Speaker 4: A team could come out and blow a team out

697
00:36:58,960 --> 00:37:02,880
Speaker 4: by sixty points, and you know, once they get in

698
00:37:02,920 --> 00:37:05,879
Speaker 4: the conference play, they can't win a game. But does

699
00:37:05,920 --> 00:37:09,320
Speaker 4: that mean that they should get ranked high? Because leading

700
00:37:09,440 --> 00:37:13,400
Speaker 4: up to playing their conference, you know, opponents, they've they've

701
00:37:13,440 --> 00:37:16,520
Speaker 4: dominated everybody leading up to those games. So it's like,

702
00:37:16,880 --> 00:37:19,919
Speaker 4: how do you do we wait till mid season? Maybe

703
00:37:19,920 --> 00:37:24,680
Speaker 4: it's mid season, midway through you know the conference like

704
00:37:25,200 --> 00:37:28,239
Speaker 4: amount of games, maybe it's like eight games, you know,

705
00:37:28,320 --> 00:37:31,359
Speaker 4: I don't know, maybe it's seven games, And then you

706
00:37:31,400 --> 00:37:33,600
Speaker 4: start looking at it from the standpoint of.

707
00:37:33,840 --> 00:37:35,160
Speaker 5: What's their body of work?

708
00:37:35,400 --> 00:37:37,600
Speaker 4: Because I think it's it's just going to be too

709
00:37:37,640 --> 00:37:40,279
Speaker 4: difficult to try to come up with that type of

710
00:37:40,320 --> 00:37:44,319
Speaker 4: determination with some of the teams that like great, you

711
00:37:44,360 --> 00:37:46,719
Speaker 4: know Eddie George one, you know what I mean, But

712
00:37:47,239 --> 00:37:49,200
Speaker 4: look at the team you played against, you know what

713
00:37:49,239 --> 00:37:51,840
Speaker 4: I mean? Like, I can't I could say I'm happy

714
00:37:51,880 --> 00:37:54,399
Speaker 4: that you got a dub, But I also could say

715
00:37:54,400 --> 00:37:56,080
Speaker 4: that that's a manufacturer dub.

716
00:37:56,760 --> 00:37:59,319
Speaker 5: So it's kind of and and that's a lot of

717
00:37:59,480 --> 00:38:00,520
Speaker 5: that's a lot of teams.

718
00:38:00,840 --> 00:38:03,680
Speaker 4: That's a lot of teams are going to play manufactured

719
00:38:03,760 --> 00:38:07,240
Speaker 4: dub dub games. So I think it makes it difficult

720
00:38:07,280 --> 00:38:11,439
Speaker 4: to really accurately know what type of team that you're

721
00:38:11,480 --> 00:38:15,160
Speaker 4: seeing until they play big games. And for what it's worth,

722
00:38:15,400 --> 00:38:17,239
Speaker 4: if they play a big game, I don't know how

723
00:38:17,239 --> 00:38:19,200
Speaker 4: good they are because it's early in the year to

724
00:38:19,239 --> 00:38:19,720
Speaker 4: that point.

725
00:38:20,239 --> 00:38:22,719
Speaker 3: And the other thing is teams grow, they change, you

726
00:38:22,760 --> 00:38:25,640
Speaker 3: know that they evolve, especially if we're talking about like

727
00:38:25,680 --> 00:38:28,320
Speaker 3: Ohio State and Texas for example. I think we do

728
00:38:28,320 --> 00:38:31,360
Speaker 3: all agree this will be what arch Manning's third start

729
00:38:32,120 --> 00:38:34,799
Speaker 3: in his career, it will join Sands First, do we

730
00:38:34,960 --> 00:38:37,000
Speaker 3: all agree that they'll be better by the end of

731
00:38:37,000 --> 00:38:39,960
Speaker 3: the season than they are right now? Yeah? So, and

732
00:38:39,960 --> 00:38:43,319
Speaker 3: the way that goes for every player who's inexperienced. But

733
00:38:44,040 --> 00:38:46,200
Speaker 3: that's the hard part is, you know, so much weight

734
00:38:46,920 --> 00:38:51,840
Speaker 3: can go into these rankings, good and bad, and meanwhile

735
00:38:51,920 --> 00:38:55,520
Speaker 3: they could be completely meaningless. So I would almost say

736
00:38:55,560 --> 00:38:57,919
Speaker 3: on the side of just not doing them at all,

737
00:38:59,719 --> 00:39:03,239
Speaker 3: or doing them from week zero on and having the

738
00:39:03,280 --> 00:39:05,800
Speaker 3: one that matters the most, the College Football Playoff Committee

739
00:39:06,239 --> 00:39:10,160
Speaker 3: construct whatever ranking that is. But we know too, it's

740
00:39:10,200 --> 00:39:12,239
Speaker 3: a way of selling it for TV. Like when it

741
00:39:12,280 --> 00:39:15,320
Speaker 3: comes down to it, you know, this isn't the NFL.

742
00:39:15,360 --> 00:39:18,080
Speaker 3: This is college football, and these brands, even though they're

743
00:39:18,080 --> 00:39:20,600
Speaker 3: regional and they're becoming more national and the players and

744
00:39:20,680 --> 00:39:24,160
Speaker 3: coaches are becoming more nationally recognized, we're not quite there yet.

745
00:39:24,160 --> 00:39:25,360
Speaker 3: So I think in order to sell a lot of

746
00:39:25,360 --> 00:39:28,239
Speaker 3: these games, a lot of these brands, you still have

747
00:39:28,239 --> 00:39:29,719
Speaker 3: to have the ranking next to it because to your

748
00:39:29,760 --> 00:39:32,439
Speaker 3: point Lefar like it feels bigger or Jonas for that matter,

749
00:39:32,520 --> 00:39:36,359
Speaker 3: like like when we talk about I mean, shoot, I'll

750
00:39:36,400 --> 00:39:39,120
Speaker 3: be honest, Like calling a game, you know, when you're

751
00:39:39,160 --> 00:39:41,799
Speaker 3: in the booth calling a game and you have two

752
00:39:41,880 --> 00:39:44,719
Speaker 3: teams that are top twenty five ranked, it feels like

753
00:39:44,760 --> 00:39:48,920
Speaker 3: a big game. Like I remember going down to TCU.

754
00:39:49,400 --> 00:39:52,239
Speaker 3: It was the only game that weekend that was two

755
00:39:52,360 --> 00:39:54,680
Speaker 3: top twenty five teams scoring off. It was TCU, I

756
00:39:54,680 --> 00:39:57,239
Speaker 3: want to say maybe versus West Virginia and gamed it

757
00:39:57,320 --> 00:40:00,400
Speaker 3: was there for it, and I remember thinking to myself, like,

758
00:40:01,239 --> 00:40:03,160
Speaker 3: this is a big deal. You know, this is a

759
00:40:03,160 --> 00:40:06,400
Speaker 3: big game, and I was excited about the opportunity of

760
00:40:06,400 --> 00:40:08,600
Speaker 3: everything else that they weren't two of the biggest brands.

761
00:40:08,640 --> 00:40:10,520
Speaker 3: It's one of the reasons why when I was on

762
00:40:10,520 --> 00:40:12,480
Speaker 3: the number two crew, like I got the opportunity to

763
00:40:12,520 --> 00:40:15,600
Speaker 3: do it, but like it was exciting for me just

764
00:40:15,600 --> 00:40:18,839
Speaker 3: from the broadcast side. And that's really what you're selling is,

765
00:40:18,960 --> 00:40:20,919
Speaker 3: you know, the big twelve race and two top twenty

766
00:40:20,960 --> 00:40:22,600
Speaker 3: five teams, who are the best teams you know to

767
00:40:23,040 --> 00:40:24,920
Speaker 3: have a shot at, you know, have a shot at

768
00:40:24,920 --> 00:40:27,480
Speaker 3: when it's all said and done. So like I get

769
00:40:27,480 --> 00:40:30,360
Speaker 3: it from that aspect of it, but it just it

770
00:40:30,360 --> 00:40:33,560
Speaker 3: feels unfair to a lot of those teams that you know,

771
00:40:33,640 --> 00:40:36,120
Speaker 3: could be just sitting outside the top twenty five and

772
00:40:36,200 --> 00:40:39,480
Speaker 3: unfortunately there's nothing they can do to get within the

773
00:40:39,520 --> 00:40:42,360
Speaker 3: top you know, sixteen teams or so forth, you know,

774
00:40:42,400 --> 00:40:44,480
Speaker 3: to get into the playoff. Because if you go back

775
00:40:44,520 --> 00:40:46,760
Speaker 3: and look at last year, for example, it's not everyone

776
00:40:46,760 --> 00:40:48,520
Speaker 3: always thinks all the top twelve teams get in. That's

777
00:40:48,560 --> 00:40:50,959
Speaker 3: not how it works. Like, that's not how the rankings work.

778
00:40:51,840 --> 00:40:55,200
Speaker 3: It's there's different you know, metrics in there to keep

779
00:40:55,200 --> 00:40:57,200
Speaker 3: some teams out. So Clemson, for example, was not a

780
00:40:57,200 --> 00:41:00,279
Speaker 3: top twelve team. I think there were sixteen. I'm making

781
00:41:00,320 --> 00:41:04,400
Speaker 3: it the College Football Playoff, So like, the rankings almost

782
00:41:05,680 --> 00:41:07,680
Speaker 3: complicate things, if anything.

783
00:41:09,480 --> 00:41:12,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, because once you have a full body of work,

784
00:41:12,160 --> 00:41:14,680
Speaker 2: you have a better understanding. Remember USC beat ls U

785
00:41:15,320 --> 00:41:17,680
Speaker 2: last year in Vegas and it was like, oh man,

786
00:41:17,719 --> 00:41:18,200
Speaker 2: they're better.

787
00:41:18,280 --> 00:41:22,200
Speaker 3: Ye Like, oh, USCS they're very good. The Miller slashes

788
00:41:22,280 --> 00:41:25,200
Speaker 3: of Matt Lioner, you know, riding a Trojan horse or

789
00:41:25,239 --> 00:41:25,759
Speaker 3: something like that.

790
00:41:26,239 --> 00:41:30,000
Speaker 2: Everybody, everybody was ball washing Miller Moss. They're better without

791
00:41:30,080 --> 00:41:32,799
Speaker 2: Caleb Williams. They're a better team without him. And then

792
00:41:32,960 --> 00:41:35,200
Speaker 2: he didn't even finish the year as a starter. Like

793
00:41:35,400 --> 00:41:38,680
Speaker 2: it's like, but you hear the fan base and everybody

794
00:41:38,800 --> 00:41:41,439
Speaker 2: going crazy, which, by the way, is Brian Kelly gonna

795
00:41:41,440 --> 00:41:43,640
Speaker 2: win an opener at the l s U at some point?

796
00:41:43,680 --> 00:41:45,520
Speaker 2: Or is that gonna Are we going to continue on

797
00:41:45,600 --> 00:41:47,840
Speaker 2: this path? Because what is the oh for three and

798
00:41:47,960 --> 00:41:51,480
Speaker 2: openers at l s U that got Clemson this upcoming weekend?

799
00:41:51,600 --> 00:41:53,080
Speaker 3: So get the hands full this weekend.

800
00:41:53,239 --> 00:41:53,439
Speaker 5: Yeah.

801
00:41:54,800 --> 00:41:58,280
Speaker 2: So, by the way, I was on with George Reister

802
00:41:58,480 --> 00:41:59,799
Speaker 2: yesterday we were filling in from I.

803
00:41:59,800 --> 00:42:02,600
Speaker 3: Saw that, Yeah, someone someone reminded me that on Twitter,

804
00:42:02,960 --> 00:42:05,400
Speaker 3: you're out promoting that yet and that Danny Canell We

805
00:42:05,520 --> 00:42:06,400
Speaker 3: had Danny Canell on.

806
00:42:06,840 --> 00:42:07,640
Speaker 2: And how that go.

807
00:42:07,960 --> 00:42:10,440
Speaker 3: Just just so you know, just pounded the pavement for

808
00:42:10,480 --> 00:42:12,480
Speaker 3: the acc Well, he was not trying to give any

809
00:42:12,520 --> 00:42:13,480
Speaker 3: credits to anyone else.

810
00:42:13,560 --> 00:42:16,520
Speaker 2: He was also uh relishing the fact that he had

811
00:42:16,560 --> 00:42:20,000
Speaker 2: the under in the Kansas State Iowa Iowa State game

812
00:42:20,120 --> 00:42:22,239
Speaker 2: last week, and I pointed out to him, I said,

813
00:42:22,239 --> 00:42:25,000
Speaker 2: you know, Brady Quinn had the over, so he was

814
00:42:25,040 --> 00:42:25,960
Speaker 2: on the opposite side of.

815
00:42:26,000 --> 00:42:26,640
Speaker 5: That bad beat.

816
00:42:26,800 --> 00:42:28,920
Speaker 2: And he's like, I love that. I love hearing that.

817
00:42:29,160 --> 00:42:31,160
Speaker 3: So you know why he loves that because he got

818
00:42:31,200 --> 00:42:33,479
Speaker 3: his ass beat every time we did college football picks

819
00:42:34,200 --> 00:42:36,080
Speaker 3: and you can you can cut this off. Sent it

820
00:42:36,120 --> 00:42:36,560
Speaker 3: out to him.

821
00:42:36,680 --> 00:42:38,080
Speaker 5: He knows it. It was.

822
00:42:38,239 --> 00:42:38,440
Speaker 1: It was.

823
00:42:38,640 --> 00:42:40,400
Speaker 3: It got sad to a one point like he'd be

824
00:42:40,440 --> 00:42:42,319
Speaker 3: like itching to try to come back and find a way,

825
00:42:42,480 --> 00:42:45,600
Speaker 3: but both him and Prisco took it. I mean absolutely

826
00:42:46,560 --> 00:42:48,480
Speaker 3: just took him to the woodshed.

827
00:42:48,560 --> 00:42:50,960
Speaker 2: Oh by the way, Prisco, we got to hold his

828
00:42:51,120 --> 00:42:54,520
Speaker 2: balls to the fire. He was wasn't he saying earlier

829
00:42:54,600 --> 00:42:57,839
Speaker 2: this week that he guaranteed uh like he was calling

830
00:42:57,920 --> 00:43:00,520
Speaker 2: a shot that the jar two Parsons to show up

831
00:43:00,560 --> 00:43:04,360
Speaker 2: and signed before the end of the week. So so

832
00:43:04,520 --> 00:43:05,960
Speaker 2: Prisco's got to be held accountable.

833
00:43:06,080 --> 00:43:07,680
Speaker 5: He was on the wrong side of that bet.

834
00:43:07,960 --> 00:43:11,360
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, and you know he'll get defensive. You know,

835
00:43:11,440 --> 00:43:13,440
Speaker 3: he's gonna be like a hyena back into a corner.

836
00:43:14,320 --> 00:43:15,320
Speaker 2: I mean, give me a break.

837
00:43:19,320 --> 00:43:20,400
Speaker 5: What type of break do you need?

838
00:43:20,560 --> 00:43:22,600
Speaker 2: Well, no, that was that's Prisco. That's one of his

839
00:43:22,719 --> 00:43:23,000
Speaker 2: go to.

840
00:43:28,239 --> 00:43:32,959
Speaker 5: That was hyena laugh, a hyena laugh.

841
00:43:35,560 --> 00:43:40,879
Speaker 4: The hyaenas are our matriarchal. They're not patriarchal. They're they're

842
00:43:41,080 --> 00:43:45,480
Speaker 4: they're packs are led by by female Did you know

843
00:43:45,640 --> 00:43:50,799
Speaker 4: that they have mock you know things because they're they're

844
00:43:50,880 --> 00:43:55,719
Speaker 4: the dominant ones. Yeah, they they have what they were

845
00:43:55,760 --> 00:43:59,000
Speaker 4: throwing on to the w n b A courts, really

846
00:43:59,400 --> 00:44:05,480
Speaker 4: they need they're not kneon, but they are camouflage to

847
00:44:06,400 --> 00:44:07,720
Speaker 4: the hyena.

848
00:44:07,800 --> 00:44:09,520
Speaker 2: I mean, if it doesn't I mean, if it doesn't work,

849
00:44:09,560 --> 00:44:10,200
Speaker 2: what's the point.

850
00:44:10,880 --> 00:44:14,239
Speaker 5: It's a mock all right, Like I don't I don't know.

851
00:44:14,719 --> 00:44:18,320
Speaker 5: But that's just a little bit of interesting trivia for you.

852
00:44:18,480 --> 00:44:19,000
Speaker 2: Fun fact.

853
00:44:20,000 --> 00:44:23,200
Speaker 5: Yeah, and they're bigger than the males. Females are bigger

854
00:44:23,280 --> 00:44:23,840
Speaker 5: than the males.

855
00:44:25,239 --> 00:44:28,160
Speaker 2: There you go, I had no idea.

856
00:44:28,280 --> 00:44:30,800
Speaker 5: Ask Rock. I think Rock can tell you to confirm it.

857
00:44:31,960 --> 00:44:35,200
Speaker 3: This is the least interesting thing I've heard.

858
00:44:36,440 --> 00:44:41,080
Speaker 5: I'm very you're not interested in the fact that hyenas.

859
00:44:40,560 --> 00:44:42,400
Speaker 3: Are an animal that I'm never going to come in

860
00:44:42,480 --> 00:44:45,000
Speaker 3: contact with the rest of my life. Yes, I am

861
00:44:45,239 --> 00:44:48,279
Speaker 3: not interested. I am all in on football. That's all

862
00:44:48,320 --> 00:44:52,600
Speaker 3: I care about right now. Anybody football guy? Hashtag film

863
00:44:53,080 --> 00:44:55,520
Speaker 3: breaking down Dylan Ryle's footwork and everything right now.

864
00:44:56,640 --> 00:45:00,320
Speaker 4: You know, if you break down how animals hunt, you

865
00:45:00,400 --> 00:45:02,360
Speaker 4: could see how some people try.

866
00:45:02,239 --> 00:45:05,120
Speaker 5: To tackle when's uh Dylon technically you could use that

867
00:45:05,239 --> 00:45:07,040
Speaker 5: as you know, film study as well.

868
00:45:07,320 --> 00:45:09,480
Speaker 3: You know, I haven't seen a good tackle on the

869
00:45:09,520 --> 00:45:10,600
Speaker 3: Safari in a long time.

870
00:45:10,760 --> 00:45:15,520
Speaker 2: So dang, when's Dylan for? What is Dylan Royola going

871
00:45:15,560 --> 00:45:19,239
Speaker 2: to give up the Patrick Mahomes? Look, when's that gonna go?

872
00:45:19,520 --> 00:45:20,600
Speaker 5: That's never going to happen.

873
00:45:21,200 --> 00:45:23,239
Speaker 3: Wow, I was having a conversation with someone last night.

874
00:45:23,640 --> 00:45:28,480
Speaker 3: You know, at what point do Nebraska fans like, like,

875
00:45:28,480 --> 00:45:30,279
Speaker 3: where are they at with him? I mean, look again,

876
00:45:30,360 --> 00:45:33,320
Speaker 3: he plays a freshman. It's always tough. I went through that.

877
00:45:33,719 --> 00:45:36,279
Speaker 3: He's a highly touted guy, so it's gonna take some time.

878
00:45:37,000 --> 00:45:39,040
Speaker 3: But even that program, you know, someone had asked, like,

879
00:45:39,080 --> 00:45:40,919
Speaker 3: hey if they because that game was that getting got tight?

880
00:45:41,360 --> 00:45:44,279
Speaker 3: And I said, like, what happens if they dropped this game?

881
00:45:44,920 --> 00:45:46,960
Speaker 3: Like it's not like it's a very favorable schedule for

882
00:45:47,120 --> 00:45:48,560
Speaker 3: them in the Big Ten. And on top of it,

883
00:45:49,200 --> 00:45:51,239
Speaker 3: you know, where's where are they at with that rule?

884
00:45:51,280 --> 00:45:54,160
Speaker 3: Were they at with Dylan Royola? I mean, and that's

885
00:45:54,200 --> 00:45:56,719
Speaker 3: a program that I think, Guys, I'm just outwardly say it.

886
00:45:56,840 --> 00:45:59,600
Speaker 3: Nebraska fans can get upset, but they have unrealistic expectations,

887
00:45:59,719 --> 00:46:02,440
Speaker 3: I think, and look at it. I look, I know,

888
00:46:02,520 --> 00:46:04,120
Speaker 3: you go into every season everyone thinks gonna win a

889
00:46:04,200 --> 00:46:08,680
Speaker 3: national championship, but they're not that close. Like they don't

890
00:46:08,760 --> 00:46:10,799
Speaker 3: have enough weapons on the outside for him to throw

891
00:46:10,880 --> 00:46:14,280
Speaker 3: to to consistently compete with the Ohio States, the Penn States,

892
00:46:14,320 --> 00:46:17,520
Speaker 3: the Organs, uh, the even Michigan for that matter. Like

893
00:46:17,960 --> 00:46:21,680
Speaker 3: there's there's a lot of you know, development and growth

894
00:46:21,760 --> 00:46:23,480
Speaker 3: and roster building they still.

895
00:46:23,320 --> 00:46:23,600
Speaker 4: Have to do.

896
00:46:23,880 --> 00:46:26,239
Speaker 2: Bo Polini, winning nine games a year wasn't good enough,

897
00:46:26,880 --> 00:46:29,279
Speaker 2: and ever since then, they've not They've not been the

898
00:46:29,360 --> 00:46:30,080
Speaker 2: same team.

899
00:46:31,560 --> 00:46:35,520
Speaker 5: Polini. It's the truth, though, I get it, but you know.

900
00:46:37,040 --> 00:46:39,520
Speaker 3: Give that Beau Polini account they had, by the way,

901
00:46:39,640 --> 00:46:40,320
Speaker 3: was pre electric.

902
00:46:41,520 --> 00:46:42,840
Speaker 2: Was there a fau Polini account?

903
00:46:43,320 --> 00:46:43,520
Speaker 5: Yeah?

904
00:46:43,680 --> 00:46:46,160
Speaker 2: Really, I didn't know that he was great, by the way,

905
00:46:46,200 --> 00:46:46,480
Speaker 2: I was.

906
00:46:46,760 --> 00:46:47,920
Speaker 5: You got to give him a chance.

907
00:46:48,120 --> 00:46:51,120
Speaker 2: I didn't. I didn't realize PJ. Fleck's been at Minnesota

908
00:46:51,200 --> 00:46:54,719
Speaker 2: for eight years now. Yeah, he's been there a long

909
00:46:54,760 --> 00:46:56,600
Speaker 2: ass time. I think he just got an extension.

910
00:46:56,960 --> 00:46:57,080
Speaker 5: Uh.

911
00:46:57,239 --> 00:47:00,640
Speaker 2: They were talking about it last night, and I mean,

912
00:47:00,920 --> 00:47:04,759
Speaker 2: he's undefeated in bowl games. Like it feels like that's

913
00:47:04,800 --> 00:47:08,600
Speaker 2: a program that has realistic expectations. Nebraska probably doesn't because

914
00:47:08,600 --> 00:47:10,319
Speaker 2: they're still going back to the past, but it feels

915
00:47:10,360 --> 00:47:13,839
Speaker 2: like Minnesota understands, Hey, we've got some level consistency here.

916
00:47:14,239 --> 00:47:15,560
Speaker 2: Let's not screw it up with this guy.

917
00:47:15,760 --> 00:47:22,040
Speaker 5: I hate Minnesota really ruin my last year, school just ruined.

918
00:47:22,040 --> 00:47:23,600
Speaker 3: They'll do They'll sneak up on you, won't they.

919
00:47:24,000 --> 00:47:27,600
Speaker 5: Day'll sneak up on you. Man, damn Gopher is a

920
00:47:27,680 --> 00:47:28,520
Speaker 5: fan of Minnesota.

921
00:47:30,160 --> 00:47:31,719
Speaker 4: I was worried about that a little bit last night.

922
00:47:32,280 --> 00:47:35,640
Speaker 4: Kind of kind of depressed me a little bit. Still

923
00:47:35,680 --> 00:47:38,640
Speaker 4: have a hard time living that one down. Hell Mary

924
00:47:38,760 --> 00:47:42,560
Speaker 4: on fourth down and like forever catches the ball, they

925
00:47:42,680 --> 00:47:47,640
Speaker 4: get down they kick a field goal. Nay, they beat

926
00:47:47,719 --> 00:47:52,440
Speaker 4: us in the Happy Valley, taking away our opportunity to

927
00:47:52,480 --> 00:47:54,839
Speaker 4: play for a national type. We slid anyway, We lost

928
00:47:54,880 --> 00:47:56,080
Speaker 4: the next two games as well.

929
00:47:56,200 --> 00:47:57,279
Speaker 3: So damn.

930
00:47:57,320 --> 00:47:59,920
Speaker 4: It's not a very very happy moment that I had

931
00:48:00,080 --> 00:48:03,560
Speaker 4: when I hear Minnesota and think about them being spoilers.

932
00:48:03,680 --> 00:48:04,399
Speaker 5: Or it could be good.

933
00:48:04,480 --> 00:48:08,719
Speaker 2: It's just a bad By the way, I Google searched Minnesota,

934
00:48:08,800 --> 00:48:11,480
Speaker 2: hail Mary Penn State. The first result that comes to

935
00:48:11,560 --> 00:48:13,839
Speaker 2: watch it. Well, no, it's the first result that comes

936
00:48:13,880 --> 00:48:17,480
Speaker 2: up with LeVar Arrington recalls nineteen ninety nine Minnesota upset

937
00:48:17,560 --> 00:48:18,160
Speaker 2: of Penn State.

938
00:48:18,360 --> 00:48:18,600
Speaker 5: So you.

939
00:48:21,280 --> 00:48:22,560
Speaker 2: For a little while there.

940
00:48:23,160 --> 00:48:26,359
Speaker 3: You gotta turn the page, buddy, results not gonna change,

941
00:48:26,400 --> 00:48:29,319
Speaker 3: Trust me. I keep I keep watching the Bush push

942
00:48:29,640 --> 00:48:31,520
Speaker 3: like that. They're not gonna throw a flag like that's

943
00:48:31,640 --> 00:48:34,040
Speaker 3: that's how it ends. Yeah, this is my nightmare.

944
00:48:35,280 --> 00:48:35,840
Speaker 5: Still hurts.

945
00:48:35,920 --> 00:48:39,040
Speaker 3: You gotta turn the page. Gonna move on, you know

946
00:48:39,840 --> 00:48:42,800
Speaker 3: it hurts. Still got down with it.

947
00:48:43,960 --> 00:48:47,359
Speaker 2: You know what I recommend you do. Try to think

948
00:48:47,920 --> 00:48:48,560
Speaker 2: try fencing.

949
00:48:49,320 --> 00:48:52,000
Speaker 5: That's right, pool that pushing pool leg.

950
00:48:52,280 --> 00:48:55,200
Speaker 2: I mean, if you ever wanted to try an Olympic sport,

951
00:48:55,560 --> 00:48:59,080
Speaker 2: try that fencing. It's fast, it's safe, it's easy to start.

952
00:48:59,560 --> 00:49:02,719
Speaker 2: Find it inner class near you at USA Fencing dot org,

953
00:49:02,800 --> 00:49:07,000
Speaker 2: slash try Fencing. That's USA Fencing dot org slash try Fencing.

954
00:49:07,680 --> 00:49:11,719
Speaker 5: That's pretty dope. That's really a read. I'm all in.

955
00:49:11,920 --> 00:49:15,080
Speaker 2: I think it's a way of life personally, but you know, it.

956
00:49:15,160 --> 00:49:17,280
Speaker 5: Takes a whole lot of skill to be able to fence.

957
00:49:17,400 --> 00:49:21,200
Speaker 2: Man, you look like a fencer, Jonas, Yeah no, not you,

958
00:49:22,880 --> 00:49:26,640
Speaker 2: Martis look like a fencer. Yeah, no more you Jonas.

959
00:49:28,600 --> 00:49:30,960
Speaker 2: Or you got that bad knee. You can't be quick

960
00:49:31,040 --> 00:49:31,839
Speaker 2: on that back knee.

961
00:49:31,880 --> 00:49:35,560
Speaker 5: You know, you know that thing might buckle and collapse.

962
00:49:37,160 --> 00:49:39,279
Speaker 8: Could you imagine you go to jab and you're just.

963
00:49:40,080 --> 00:49:42,200
Speaker 2: And it's just added are Yeah, you gotta drained? You're

964
00:49:42,239 --> 00:49:43,799
Speaker 2: good then I did.

965
00:49:44,840 --> 00:49:49,879
Speaker 4: I've been walking very nicely lately. I've been moving very good.

966
00:49:50,239 --> 00:49:51,080
Speaker 4: Thank you very much.

967
00:49:51,680 --> 00:49:54,279
Speaker 1: Be sure to catch live editions of Two Pros and

968
00:49:54,360 --> 00:49:57,360
Speaker 1: a Cup of Joe with Brady Quinn, LeVar Arrington and

969
00:49:57,480 --> 00:50:01,719
Speaker 1: Jonas Knox weekdays at six am Eas Darren three am Pacific.

970
00:50:01,960 --> 00:50:06,520
Speaker 2: We've got the big game in Columbus. This has got

971
00:50:06,680 --> 00:50:09,840
Speaker 2: to be on par I would imagine Brady one of

972
00:50:09,920 --> 00:50:12,239
Speaker 2: the biggest game you guys have called or been on

973
00:50:12,520 --> 00:50:13,680
Speaker 2: been on location for.

974
00:50:15,160 --> 00:50:16,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean it's you know, a high State Michigan

975
00:50:17,000 --> 00:50:20,080
Speaker 3: games are always really big just because the rivalry how

976
00:50:20,120 --> 00:50:23,040
Speaker 3: heated it is. I can't recall if we've had a

977
00:50:23,120 --> 00:50:26,919
Speaker 3: matchup though, of a one versus three. Those Ohio State

978
00:50:27,320 --> 00:50:29,400
Speaker 3: Michigan games, Ohio State Penn State games had to have

979
00:50:29,440 --> 00:50:31,319
Speaker 3: been up there, but I'm not I'm not sure it's

980
00:50:31,320 --> 00:50:35,799
Speaker 3: been quite this big in that regard. So it's I mean,

981
00:50:35,880 --> 00:50:40,120
Speaker 3: it definitely. You can definitely feel the vibes in Columbus.

982
00:50:41,239 --> 00:50:42,480
Speaker 3: There's a lot of people who are kind of a

983
00:50:42,480 --> 00:50:44,840
Speaker 3: little bit uncertain, I think because there's so much change.

984
00:50:45,560 --> 00:50:48,000
Speaker 3: You know, you have new defensive coordinator, new offensive coordinator,

985
00:50:48,239 --> 00:50:50,560
Speaker 3: you know, a bunch of new guys who maybe played

986
00:50:50,920 --> 00:50:54,120
Speaker 3: at times or started at times, but are now prompted

987
00:50:54,160 --> 00:50:57,880
Speaker 3: to that starting role. So it's it's gonna be interesting.

988
00:50:58,200 --> 00:50:59,920
Speaker 3: And I think the tough thing is I had some

989
00:51:00,040 --> 00:51:01,359
Speaker 3: and say this the other day, they go, I wish

990
00:51:01,440 --> 00:51:03,760
Speaker 3: this wasn't a Week one, Like I wish this matchup

991
00:51:03,880 --> 00:51:06,200
Speaker 3: was like week two or week three. And I do

992
00:51:06,400 --> 00:51:10,240
Speaker 3: think there's there's some validity to that. In a matchup

993
00:51:10,520 --> 00:51:13,600
Speaker 3: like this, which is what everyone wants in college football.

994
00:51:14,640 --> 00:51:16,399
Speaker 3: You just don't want them to be sloppy. You don't

995
00:51:16,400 --> 00:51:19,279
Speaker 3: want them to be like pre snap penalties and ball

996
00:51:19,360 --> 00:51:22,960
Speaker 3: security issues and blown to assignments. You maybe want to

997
00:51:22,960 --> 00:51:25,840
Speaker 3: get a game or two under your belt to knock

998
00:51:25,920 --> 00:51:27,520
Speaker 3: off a little bit of that. I don't know if

999
00:51:27,520 --> 00:51:30,560
Speaker 3: you'll call it rust or nerves, but just to allow

1000
00:51:30,680 --> 00:51:34,000
Speaker 3: both teams to be closer to playing at their best.

1001
00:51:34,160 --> 00:51:35,719
Speaker 3: And I think it's really really hard to do that

1002
00:51:36,760 --> 00:51:37,840
Speaker 3: week one to start a season.

1003
00:51:37,960 --> 00:51:40,319
Speaker 2: I mean, were they Texas Ohio State? Was it one

1004
00:51:40,440 --> 00:51:43,279
Speaker 2: versus two? And six? I think I think that was

1005
00:51:43,360 --> 00:51:46,440
Speaker 2: the last I think it was one versus two.

1006
00:51:46,840 --> 00:51:53,719
Speaker 3: It would have been an five, right, yeah, because that

1007
00:51:53,840 --> 00:51:58,680
Speaker 3: was the year Texas beat Ohio State and then Texas

1008
00:51:58,719 --> 00:52:01,440
Speaker 3: went on to beat do you see for the national Championship.

1009
00:52:03,719 --> 00:52:07,840
Speaker 2: I'm showing Ohio Steve No, that's that.

1010
00:52:09,320 --> 00:52:09,600
Speaker 5: Whatever.

1011
00:52:11,040 --> 00:52:12,560
Speaker 3: Well, I don't think they were both ranked that high.

1012
00:52:12,600 --> 00:52:15,040
Speaker 3: But to your point, that was a very huge game,

1013
00:52:15,160 --> 00:52:17,520
Speaker 3: monumental game I believe in Columbus to if I'm not mistaken.

1014
00:52:17,719 --> 00:52:20,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a I can't wait to watch man like

1015
00:52:20,760 --> 00:52:24,080
Speaker 2: you can. Like there's something about big environments like that

1016
00:52:24,320 --> 00:52:27,440
Speaker 2: to where even the NFL, like the NFL will have

1017
00:52:27,640 --> 00:52:31,400
Speaker 2: big games and big matchups, even the Super Bowl, you

1018
00:52:31,440 --> 00:52:35,080
Speaker 2: don't really get a sense of how big it is

1019
00:52:35,920 --> 00:52:39,040
Speaker 2: because it's so corporate. There's so many different things going on,

1020
00:52:39,120 --> 00:52:42,080
Speaker 2: there's so many different elements. College football's got a way

1021
00:52:42,120 --> 00:52:45,960
Speaker 2: to present itself on television to where if you're watching

1022
00:52:46,239 --> 00:52:48,719
Speaker 2: or you're streaming it or whatever you're looking at to

1023
00:52:48,840 --> 00:52:52,520
Speaker 2: try and take in the game. You the way it's

1024
00:52:52,640 --> 00:52:55,640
Speaker 2: laid out and presented, you can feel it's a big deal.

1025
00:52:56,040 --> 00:52:58,160
Speaker 2: Like you can You're gonna be able to feel tomorrow

1026
00:52:58,640 --> 00:53:01,560
Speaker 2: this is massive, like this, this is a historic matchup

1027
00:53:01,640 --> 00:53:06,040
Speaker 2: with all the other elements combined, the Mannings, the National Championship,

1028
00:53:06,120 --> 00:53:09,279
Speaker 2: the Portnoy, the big Doom kickoff, Corso's Final, Like you're

1029
00:53:09,280 --> 00:53:11,560
Speaker 2: gonna be able to feel that present itself in a

1030
00:53:11,600 --> 00:53:13,319
Speaker 2: way that we haven't seen before and we don't get

1031
00:53:13,360 --> 00:53:13,880
Speaker 2: in the NFL.

1032
00:53:14,480 --> 00:53:17,239
Speaker 3: And look, kudos to College Game Day, I mean and

1033
00:53:17,600 --> 00:53:21,960
Speaker 3: Lee Corso, who's a part of it, but they made

1034
00:53:22,000 --> 00:53:25,239
Speaker 3: it that way where you're on site, you're you're there,

1035
00:53:25,400 --> 00:53:28,759
Speaker 3: you're in the action, you can feel it and the

1036
00:53:28,840 --> 00:53:31,680
Speaker 3: excitement are surrounding it, and that's part of I think

1037
00:53:31,760 --> 00:53:35,040
Speaker 3: what makes you know, college so much fun a little

1038
00:53:35,040 --> 00:53:37,480
Speaker 3: bit in comparison to the NFL shows, where it's more

1039
00:53:37,480 --> 00:53:41,080
Speaker 3: of that sterile studio environment. You know, you can't you

1040
00:53:41,239 --> 00:53:43,480
Speaker 3: really sense the excitement quite as much. You know, you

1041
00:53:43,560 --> 00:53:45,600
Speaker 3: get like a parking lot shot of people tail game

1042
00:53:45,640 --> 00:53:49,200
Speaker 3: for the NFL games, but it's entirely different with college football.

1043
00:53:49,239 --> 00:53:54,200
Speaker 3: You're you're there in the action. So it's I think

1044
00:53:54,280 --> 00:53:56,400
Speaker 3: that's part of it in regards to how you present it.

1045
00:53:56,440 --> 00:53:58,040
Speaker 3: But I do want to say this about Lee Corso,

1046
00:54:00,320 --> 00:54:02,239
Speaker 3: you know, he felt like to a lot of people

1047
00:54:02,280 --> 00:54:04,759
Speaker 3: like I didn't. I didn't grow up remember me like

1048
00:54:04,800 --> 00:54:07,120
Speaker 3: my my grandfather's because they passed away when I was young.

1049
00:54:07,920 --> 00:54:11,440
Speaker 3: But he's kind of been that figure, like that grandfather

1050
00:54:11,600 --> 00:54:13,440
Speaker 3: type figure I think, for a lot of people for

1051
00:54:13,560 --> 00:54:18,760
Speaker 3: a long time, and he's one of the special people

1052
00:54:18,840 --> 00:54:21,920
Speaker 3: that just makes the game fun, makes the conversation about

1053
00:54:22,000 --> 00:54:25,160
Speaker 3: the game fun. And it's gonna be sad. It's gonna

1054
00:54:25,160 --> 00:54:26,800
Speaker 3: be sad to see him not be a part of

1055
00:54:26,880 --> 00:54:29,600
Speaker 3: it anymore, you know. I kind of not that Dick

1056
00:54:29,680 --> 00:54:32,280
Speaker 3: Vitel's done, but like it's same thing for like college basketball,

1057
00:54:32,400 --> 00:54:35,880
Speaker 3: right like I'll always remember like the Dick Vitel calls,

1058
00:54:35,960 --> 00:54:38,560
Speaker 3: and you know, the different way he would say things

1059
00:54:39,480 --> 00:54:42,120
Speaker 3: similar to Lee Corso and looking forward to which team

1060
00:54:42,160 --> 00:54:45,160
Speaker 3: he was gonna pick to don the head gear to

1061
00:54:45,520 --> 00:54:48,080
Speaker 3: make his selection, or some of the funny things he

1062
00:54:48,120 --> 00:54:50,799
Speaker 3: would find a way of getting in their show. It's

1063
00:54:51,280 --> 00:54:53,680
Speaker 3: it's sad, but you know, I obviously want to thank

1064
00:54:53,760 --> 00:54:57,320
Speaker 3: him for everything he's done all those years to highlight

1065
00:54:57,360 --> 00:54:58,440
Speaker 3: the game of college football.

1066
00:54:59,080 --> 00:55:02,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, and you guys are going to be everybody's going

1067
00:55:02,080 --> 00:55:03,759
Speaker 2: to be there together. Are you going to get a

1068
00:55:03,880 --> 00:55:05,799
Speaker 2: chance to talk with him tomorrow at all.

1069
00:55:05,880 --> 00:55:10,160
Speaker 3: Or I don't know. I mean, obviously if I have

1070
00:55:10,160 --> 00:55:12,200
Speaker 3: the opportunity to go over and make sure to say hello,

1071
00:55:12,480 --> 00:55:16,000
Speaker 3: But usually everyone's so busy trying to just make sure

1072
00:55:16,040 --> 00:55:18,120
Speaker 3: we get in front of the camera on time, you know,

1073
00:55:18,239 --> 00:55:20,640
Speaker 3: moving from outside to inside, or you know, different set

1074
00:55:20,680 --> 00:55:23,759
Speaker 3: to set, so we're at a completely different location for

1075
00:55:23,840 --> 00:55:26,440
Speaker 3: where they're at. But I'm sure hopefully we'll have the

1076
00:55:26,440 --> 00:55:28,120
Speaker 3: opportunity to say low. Yeah.

1077
00:55:28,320 --> 00:55:29,960
Speaker 2: So it's been a hell of a run for him,

1078
00:55:30,560 --> 00:55:33,080
Speaker 2: and now we get ready and get set for the

1079
00:55:33,200 --> 00:55:37,920
Speaker 2: big game coming up tomorrow Texas Ohio State from the Shoe,

1080
00:55:38,920 --> 00:55:42,600
Speaker 2: Big Newton kickoff on Fox. We'll be watching