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Speaker 1: Hi, readers, it's Bowen. You'll notice we're doing a feed

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Speaker 1: drop of the first episode of this season of Stradio Lab,

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Speaker 1: hosted by George Severies and Sam Taggart. They are now

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Speaker 1: part of Big Money Players and we're so thrilled to

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Speaker 1: be network siblings with them. If you like class culturistas

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Speaker 1: even just a little bit, you'll probably love Stradio Lab,

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Speaker 1: so please subscribe if you haven't already. This episode features

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Speaker 1: me and Matt Rodgers as guests. We posit some pretty

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Speaker 1: hope you enjoyed this episode. Okay, bye, Welcome to Stradio Lab,

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Speaker 1: an intellectual podcast about straight culture and also a stupid

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Speaker 1: podcast about nothing. Don't say that, it's just true. I

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Speaker 1: don't want to lie to our listeners. I'm George Severies

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Speaker 1: and I'm Sam Taggart and this is Stradio Lab. Podcast

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Speaker 1: starts now. Okay, podcast starts now. What's up everybody, and

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Speaker 1: welcome to Stir Radio Lab. Back from the grave. You

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Speaker 1: thought we were dead, but actually we were training and

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Speaker 1: we're stronger than ever. And I just want to say

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Speaker 1: right now why because she doesn't get out of bed

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Speaker 1: for under three million dollars. Wow? Say that. And I

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Speaker 1: just want to say for the listeners at home, this

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Speaker 1: podcast has always been about a few things. It's been

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Speaker 1: I would say, I'm physically bleeding from multiple in multiple

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Speaker 1: but it's uh, what's it called when it's psychological? Um,

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Speaker 1: not bleeding, munchild, I'm bleeding, but it's Munchausen. I'm bleeding.

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Speaker 1: Psycho Stomatic is the word I was looking for. I

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Speaker 1: but it's all in my head. Yeah, George is actually

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Speaker 1: hosting a collaboration between bleeding and Munchausen. Finally, the two

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Speaker 1: Psychosomatic Limb Falling and Podcasting. So I have to say, George,

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Speaker 1: it was there. Here's what I'll say from now on.

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Speaker 1: everyone's gonna be chill about it. I think that's a

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Speaker 1: because I feel like we were nothing but chill when

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Speaker 1: now I'm pissed, and no, I'm sam. You were saying THEO.

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Speaker 1: You know, on one level, it's a podcast about straight culture.

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Speaker 1: On another level, it's about radical honesty. And then on

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Speaker 1: Bleeding George. You are the Munchausen is talking. Honestly, my

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Speaker 1: Wait where network sisters? Now? I cannot wait. I'm edging

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Speaker 1: not just that you can't wait for to be over

422
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Speaker 1: so that you can listen to Hold My Night, one

423
00:26:22,240 --> 00:26:25,040
Speaker 1: of the greatest songs the song that started this decade.

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Speaker 1: If I'm that we can all agree on. Okay, wait,

425
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Speaker 1: I want to say, everyone go around, I'm gonna be

426
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Speaker 1: my mom right now, Everyone go around and say their

427
00:26:34,440 --> 00:26:38,760
Speaker 1: favorite moment from the concert. Go I loved but first,

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00:26:39,520 --> 00:26:44,280
Speaker 1: I loved for a dancing moment. I loved replay and

429
00:26:46,160 --> 00:26:49,400
Speaker 1: when you loved another song. I loved a couple other

430
00:26:49,480 --> 00:26:51,600
Speaker 1: songs I love. I thought it was really specially we

431
00:26:51,600 --> 00:26:55,840
Speaker 1: all got to listen to Shallow Together live absolutely and

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Speaker 1: I loved. I woke up yesterday morning, the day of

433
00:27:00,720 --> 00:27:04,720
Speaker 1: the concert, and I decided. The first thought I had

434
00:27:04,960 --> 00:27:08,240
Speaker 1: was I'm going to like hold my Hand. I did

435
00:27:08,240 --> 00:27:11,359
Speaker 1: not care for that song before I woke up yesterday

436
00:27:11,400 --> 00:27:16,359
Speaker 1: and chose peace and love for hold my Hand the Power,

437
00:27:17,760 --> 00:27:19,200
Speaker 1: and I was like, I'm gonna be I'm surprised that

438
00:27:19,240 --> 00:27:24,960
Speaker 1: you didn't say Enigma, enigmas whatever? Oh who was I with?

439
00:27:25,080 --> 00:27:27,760
Speaker 1: That was like standing Enigma? Well, I do stand enigma,

440
00:27:27,880 --> 00:27:31,520
Speaker 1: but it wasn't me last night, but I said, I said,

441
00:27:32,200 --> 00:27:34,000
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be off book by this. But by the

442
00:27:34,040 --> 00:27:37,080
Speaker 1: concert I learned every single word and it was amazing.

443
00:27:37,119 --> 00:27:43,000
Speaker 1: It was an amazing song. That's it. Okay, that's that's meat. Well,

444
00:27:43,200 --> 00:27:47,040
Speaker 1: I have to say I enjoyed every part of the concert,

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00:27:47,080 --> 00:27:49,639
Speaker 1: and I've already expressed that my favorite part was holding

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Speaker 1: my hand. But if I had to sort of just

447
00:27:52,160 --> 00:27:56,199
Speaker 1: you know, pick another favorite, I would say that I

448
00:27:56,280 --> 00:28:00,520
Speaker 1: absolutely and I'm I actually got some flak from our readers,

449
00:28:00,600 --> 00:28:02,320
Speaker 1: which is what we call the fans of our podcast,

450
00:28:02,440 --> 00:28:06,639
Speaker 1: for not standing replay the way everyone else was. And

451
00:28:06,680 --> 00:28:09,879
Speaker 1: replay was fabulous last night. It was so fabulous. That

452
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Speaker 1: being said, I think that while Shallow was incredible, I

453
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Speaker 1: have to say, always remember us this way was giving.

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Speaker 1: I completely loved Always remember Us this way, loved it,

455
00:28:24,000 --> 00:28:26,800
Speaker 1: loved it, loved it, loved everything she did at the piano,

456
00:28:26,840 --> 00:28:29,399
Speaker 1: and like I also did get my life to that

457
00:28:29,440 --> 00:28:36,119
Speaker 1: acoustic thousand Doves Like a thousand, which the host of

458
00:28:36,119 --> 00:28:38,560
Speaker 1: this podcast do not know. We don't know. But then

459
00:28:38,640 --> 00:28:41,720
Speaker 1: someone did, right she did. She changed the lyrics. She

460
00:28:42,160 --> 00:28:46,000
Speaker 1: changed the lyrics. It was it was the Sam and

461
00:28:46,000 --> 00:28:49,640
Speaker 1: George gas lighting edition of the song. She she did

462
00:28:49,720 --> 00:28:51,840
Speaker 1: different lyrics so that we would look stupid because she's

463
00:28:51,840 --> 00:28:54,000
Speaker 1: mad that we haven't had her on. I want to say,

464
00:28:54,000 --> 00:28:58,240
Speaker 1: in response to Matt, always remember us, this stupid love

465
00:28:57,320 --> 00:29:02,320
Speaker 1: and with always remember us this way. I actually when

466
00:29:02,320 --> 00:29:05,600
Speaker 1: she started the song, it didn't fully hit me what

467
00:29:05,600 --> 00:29:07,960
Speaker 1: what she was singing. And my first thought was, Oh,

468
00:29:07,960 --> 00:29:15,440
Speaker 1: she's covering a classic song, a classic song that's like

469
00:29:17,360 --> 00:29:20,160
Speaker 1: the confidence. Who would have thought that? It was not

470
00:29:20,280 --> 00:29:23,560
Speaker 1: even the song from the soundtrack that didn't win the Oscar. Wow.

471
00:29:24,000 --> 00:29:27,440
Speaker 1: She didn't even do any covers. She didn't do any does,

472
00:29:28,840 --> 00:29:33,400
Speaker 1: no covers, no guest stars, and and honestly no weird

473
00:29:33,600 --> 00:29:35,760
Speaker 1: like mash ups or anything like. It was very much

474
00:29:35,840 --> 00:29:37,720
Speaker 1: like one song after the other. Wait, but have you

475
00:29:37,920 --> 00:29:40,320
Speaker 1: have you guys ever heard um the Story of One Bone?

476
00:29:40,320 --> 00:29:42,720
Speaker 1: And I went to go see the Telor Swift World

477
00:29:42,720 --> 00:29:45,400
Speaker 1: tour and she had famously she famously had many guest

478
00:29:45,400 --> 00:29:48,560
Speaker 1: stars and the most iconic guest star that she brought

479
00:29:48,560 --> 00:29:50,920
Speaker 1: out was to walk to walk the runway during style

480
00:29:51,080 --> 00:29:56,120
Speaker 1: was oh yeah, And then she came out you got that,

481
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Speaker 1: David James, And it was just like who I complimented

482
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Speaker 1: at an Emmy's party last year. I said, in treatment

483
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Speaker 1: was spectacular, you were so good in that And she

484
00:30:10,760 --> 00:30:12,760
Speaker 1: did not want to talk to me at all. She

485
00:30:12,840 --> 00:30:16,680
Speaker 1: was like, thanks, just let's say this about let me

486
00:30:16,680 --> 00:30:19,720
Speaker 1: say this about the Intreatment reboot starring the Duba who

487
00:30:19,760 --> 00:30:22,840
Speaker 1: I think. I think she's one of her talents. But

488
00:30:22,920 --> 00:30:26,080
Speaker 1: here's what I'll say. The marketing of that show. If

489
00:30:26,080 --> 00:30:28,040
Speaker 1: you look at the poster for it, she is fully

490
00:30:28,080 --> 00:30:33,120
Speaker 1: wearing a snatched model look to play. The looks like

491
00:30:33,480 --> 00:30:37,720
Speaker 1: everything like an ad for like I don't know. She's

492
00:30:37,760 --> 00:30:42,280
Speaker 1: wearing the dull chinkabana Beyonce bell the key on it. Yes, yes, yes, yes,

493
00:30:42,360 --> 00:30:46,800
Speaker 1: yes she is. She is literally done in every single

494
00:30:47,560 --> 00:30:53,440
Speaker 1: She's just she's at home infessionally, and it's like Trinity

495
00:30:53,480 --> 00:30:55,160
Speaker 1: of the Talk walks in and she's like, let's get

496
00:30:55,200 --> 00:30:59,000
Speaker 1: to a girl in her own house. So your father

497
00:30:59,360 --> 00:31:11,120
Speaker 1: reduced miss famous line. Alright, So George was moment and

498
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Speaker 1: I'm sorry to be uh kind of cliche, but my

499
00:31:15,440 --> 00:31:18,720
Speaker 1: favorite moment was when she said, if they come for

500
00:31:18,760 --> 00:31:20,960
Speaker 1: gay marriage in this country, you know what will happen?

501
00:31:21,080 --> 00:31:24,000
Speaker 1: What will happen? No, we don't know, No one knows.

502
00:31:24,200 --> 00:31:27,120
Speaker 1: That was you know what's going to happen. And then

503
00:31:27,160 --> 00:31:31,680
Speaker 1: my second favorite moment was when she said, after talking

504
00:31:31,720 --> 00:31:33,360
Speaker 1: about how much difficult do we have all seen in

505
00:31:33,400 --> 00:31:36,440
Speaker 1: the last two years, she said, but we have seen

506
00:31:36,600 --> 00:31:41,240
Speaker 1: so much kindness and positivity, and no one classed people

507
00:31:41,280 --> 00:31:45,760
Speaker 1: were like where. It was like literally the opposite people.

508
00:31:46,440 --> 00:31:50,280
Speaker 1: No one like this. They did. They did the this

509
00:31:50,440 --> 00:31:58,040
Speaker 1: emoji I'm doing it's the light I confused emoji. Yeah.

510
00:31:58,120 --> 00:32:00,280
Speaker 1: And that moment was when they found polio in the

511
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Speaker 1: sewage in your Yeah. When she said yeah, when she

512
00:32:04,080 --> 00:32:09,000
Speaker 1: said kindness, she meant polio. We have seen so much

513
00:32:10,280 --> 00:32:15,040
Speaker 1: and then she came out of so much disease. Every

514
00:32:15,080 --> 00:32:18,640
Speaker 1: time she spoke to the audience, it made even less

515
00:32:18,640 --> 00:32:22,560
Speaker 1: sense than the time before. Unconnected, no point did she

516
00:32:22,960 --> 00:32:26,080
Speaker 1: pat and I have this joke, uh, kind of an

517
00:32:26,080 --> 00:32:31,400
Speaker 1: inside joke. In fact, we talked about certain people that

518
00:32:32,760 --> 00:32:35,160
Speaker 1: we'll talk about someone and we'll say, you know, they

519
00:32:35,200 --> 00:32:37,400
Speaker 1: need to be tagged in the say one single thing

520
00:32:37,440 --> 00:32:40,560
Speaker 1: that makes sense challenge. And I would say Gaga needs

521
00:32:40,560 --> 00:32:42,400
Speaker 1: to be tagged, and let's say one single thing that

522
00:32:42,440 --> 00:32:47,640
Speaker 1: makes sense challenge. It's true. I yeah, that stuff was

523
00:32:47,760 --> 00:32:50,120
Speaker 1: really making me laugh. I wanted almost more of it,

524
00:32:50,360 --> 00:32:53,560
Speaker 1: um because what you want from her as cookie cookiness.

525
00:32:55,040 --> 00:32:58,600
Speaker 1: Someone did someone did like I have to say, against

526
00:32:58,680 --> 00:33:01,640
Speaker 1: my will, I did chuckle once. One posted a photo

527
00:33:01,720 --> 00:33:04,320
Speaker 1: of the crowd last night and then and said there

528
00:33:04,320 --> 00:33:08,200
Speaker 1: could be people in the room, and I was like,

529
00:33:08,520 --> 00:33:13,280
Speaker 1: that will never get old. It's so funny. Also another

530
00:33:13,320 --> 00:33:15,440
Speaker 1: thing that she said was she was like talking about

531
00:33:15,480 --> 00:33:18,880
Speaker 1: her memories of Jersey and being like in the Boardwalk,

532
00:33:19,640 --> 00:33:23,000
Speaker 1: come on, I've had my good time, remember that one

533
00:33:23,040 --> 00:33:27,200
Speaker 1: who could forget? Who can forget the beach? The commitment

534
00:33:27,240 --> 00:33:31,000
Speaker 1: to Jersey rather than just being like giving it a

535
00:33:31,000 --> 00:33:33,200
Speaker 1: shout out and then mostly talking about New York. The

536
00:33:33,600 --> 00:33:36,680
Speaker 1: commitment to Jersey. She was like, what about those sopranos?

537
00:33:37,760 --> 00:33:43,680
Speaker 1: It was funny Jersey. I think I think they. I

538
00:33:43,720 --> 00:33:47,040
Speaker 1: think every pop star who performs there is told you

539
00:33:47,120 --> 00:33:51,280
Speaker 1: cannot mention New York City before Jersey. Like when we

540
00:33:51,360 --> 00:33:53,200
Speaker 1: when Matt and I saw Taylor Swift there, she like

541
00:33:53,360 --> 00:33:57,320
Speaker 1: barely talked about New York either. All she did was say, Wow,

542
00:33:57,320 --> 00:34:00,360
Speaker 1: it's so great to be in Jersey tonight, like never

543
00:34:00,440 --> 00:34:02,600
Speaker 1: mentioned New York once except in Welcome to New York.

544
00:34:02,840 --> 00:34:05,480
Speaker 1: I think she did say like and who is here

545
00:34:05,560 --> 00:34:08,880
Speaker 1: from New York? And the entire crowd screamed and she

546
00:34:09,000 --> 00:34:11,680
Speaker 1: was like okay, and that this, and then she I

547
00:34:11,719 --> 00:34:17,080
Speaker 1: think she probably did like an hashtag awkward uh segue

548
00:34:17,120 --> 00:34:19,560
Speaker 1: into Welcome to New York, you know, and speaking of

549
00:34:19,600 --> 00:34:27,920
Speaker 1: awkward segways, first we will do after let me finish,

550
00:34:27,960 --> 00:34:30,160
Speaker 1: which we will do after. Sam says his best moment,

551
00:34:32,400 --> 00:34:35,840
Speaker 1: I was like, wait, I'm literally being erased right this

552
00:34:35,920 --> 00:34:39,640
Speaker 1: second in front on my own podcast. This is so crazy,

553
00:34:41,120 --> 00:34:46,480
Speaker 1: very suspect, Okay, very suspect. Well, very inconsidered it, and

554
00:34:46,520 --> 00:34:50,520
Speaker 1: thank you, I think um honestly, honestly, the top moment

555
00:34:50,600 --> 00:34:53,960
Speaker 1: for me was I'd already been mentioned seeing shallow with

556
00:34:54,000 --> 00:34:58,040
Speaker 1: everybody was so crazy when she literally goes into the

557
00:34:58,120 --> 00:35:01,239
Speaker 1: like hall and it was like she's doing it, She's

558
00:35:01,280 --> 00:35:03,839
Speaker 1: doing the thing we all did for like years, Like

559
00:35:03,920 --> 00:35:07,080
Speaker 1: this is so crazy. I could not believe amazing. That

560
00:35:07,160 --> 00:35:09,000
Speaker 1: was like seeing a way all jump in the ocean.

561
00:35:09,120 --> 00:35:11,040
Speaker 1: Like I was like, I didn't think I would see

562
00:35:11,040 --> 00:35:13,799
Speaker 1: this in my life. Like that was like being on

563
00:35:13,840 --> 00:35:17,680
Speaker 1: the moon. Like I was like, I'm I'm there. That's

564
00:35:17,719 --> 00:35:20,080
Speaker 1: also how I felt when she did the CHROMATICA two

565
00:35:20,719 --> 00:35:22,120
Speaker 1: and that was the other one I was going to say.

566
00:35:22,320 --> 00:35:24,560
Speaker 1: I was like, oh my god, I listened to this

567
00:35:24,680 --> 00:35:28,239
Speaker 1: so many times and now I'm here and it's happening.

568
00:35:29,040 --> 00:35:32,279
Speaker 1: It was. It was breathtaking. I was moved. I thought

569
00:35:32,280 --> 00:35:35,439
Speaker 1: that way about holding my hands. For sure, I said,

570
00:35:35,440 --> 00:35:37,959
Speaker 1: oh my god, this song that I liked today, she's

571
00:35:38,000 --> 00:35:43,400
Speaker 1: doing it southing that I liked it today also. And

572
00:35:43,480 --> 00:35:46,480
Speaker 1: to be the most basic, rain on Me was such

573
00:35:46,560 --> 00:35:52,400
Speaker 1: a damn sleigh. I was jumping up and down. Stupid

574
00:35:52,400 --> 00:35:54,759
Speaker 1: Love is a better song. What. I was shocked that

575
00:35:54,840 --> 00:35:58,080
Speaker 1: she didn't end on Stupid Love because I'm sorry. Rain

576
00:35:58,120 --> 00:36:00,440
Speaker 1: on Me has a feature that was like being played

577
00:36:00,560 --> 00:36:04,719
Speaker 1: from the speakers. You like to end on something where

578
00:36:04,760 --> 00:36:08,400
Speaker 1: you're hearing like a recorded uh featured artist. That seems

579
00:36:08,440 --> 00:36:11,280
Speaker 1: so anti climactic to me. I couldn't believe she couldn't

580
00:36:11,320 --> 00:36:14,360
Speaker 1: pull any special guests to come out and do that.

581
00:36:14,440 --> 00:36:17,239
Speaker 1: Even if it wasn't Ariana like not, there couldn't be

582
00:36:17,440 --> 00:36:20,240
Speaker 1: anyone I agree with that. I was like, yet, surely

583
00:36:20,239 --> 00:36:24,080
Speaker 1: someone's coming. You couldn't fly in like Pooh, he'd love

584
00:36:24,120 --> 00:36:26,279
Speaker 1: to be around these games. And she doesn't do this.

585
00:36:26,400 --> 00:36:29,439
Speaker 1: She's never done this, not once, not in the since

586
00:36:29,480 --> 00:36:32,200
Speaker 1: the Begs, not since the Fame Ball. She does not

587
00:36:32,239 --> 00:36:35,359
Speaker 1: pull out special guests because I think she also thinks

588
00:36:35,360 --> 00:36:38,560
Speaker 1: it's very important for people to associate her sharing this

589
00:36:38,640 --> 00:36:41,040
Speaker 1: stage with someone else, and that only that person only

590
00:36:41,080 --> 00:36:46,960
Speaker 1: being Tony Bennett for now. You know what about Bradley Cooper? Sure,

591
00:36:47,000 --> 00:36:49,080
Speaker 1: and Bradley like after she's in a movie with him.

592
00:36:49,080 --> 00:36:51,720
Speaker 1: But I'm sure she didn't bring up Beyonce for telephone.

593
00:36:51,760 --> 00:36:54,920
Speaker 1: Ever she brought out like, you know, fucking Florence for

594
00:36:54,960 --> 00:36:58,479
Speaker 1: hey girl. You know she just doesn't do that. Not true,

595
00:36:58,480 --> 00:37:02,759
Speaker 1: little monsters. No, I know you're right. I ultimately was

596
00:37:02,800 --> 00:37:05,319
Speaker 1: not expecting her to bring out anyone like which is

597
00:37:05,440 --> 00:37:07,399
Speaker 1: why it would have been the biggest gag of ball

598
00:37:07,600 --> 00:37:10,920
Speaker 1: if she surpassed those expectations. Of course, of course, the

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00:37:11,239 --> 00:37:22,600
Speaker 1: bigg what be if there was. I believe that gaging

600
00:37:22,800 --> 00:37:33,160
Speaker 1: is the future. Blag them, well, gag you gag yourself

601
00:37:34,239 --> 00:37:46,000
Speaker 1: big too good away, that is the greatest. Yeah. And

602
00:37:46,320 --> 00:37:53,520
Speaker 1: if you gag too hard now you even answer up?

603
00:37:53,600 --> 00:38:04,600
Speaker 1: Oh my god, dress some water bit Jesus Christ, protect

604
00:38:02,640 --> 00:38:06,719
Speaker 1: the voice, Protect the voice. Now should we do our

605
00:38:06,719 --> 00:38:10,080
Speaker 1: first segment or should we bring our guests? Yeah, I

606
00:38:10,120 --> 00:38:13,680
Speaker 1: don't think I'm ready to bring it out. Yeah, Carson

607
00:38:13,760 --> 00:38:17,080
Speaker 1: and Ross have been waiting for Keep them in limbo,

608
00:38:17,160 --> 00:38:19,800
Speaker 1: Keep them in limbo. Carson, you're a great hunt a

609
00:38:20,640 --> 00:38:25,839
Speaker 1: style superstar, style superstar. And I thought when you just

610
00:38:25,960 --> 00:38:28,240
Speaker 1: I thought when you just went that was your Carson.

611
00:38:29,640 --> 00:38:34,919
Speaker 1: It's time to be real it. No, my phone's over there,

612
00:38:36,040 --> 00:38:38,640
Speaker 1: but one of us can do it. Do it. I

613
00:38:38,680 --> 00:38:42,319
Speaker 1: didn't get a notification that, oh yes, it's trying to real. Okay,

614
00:38:42,360 --> 00:38:43,960
Speaker 1: make sure it's a good photo of me too. Hold

615
00:38:44,000 --> 00:38:49,120
Speaker 1: on and Sled, don't don't cut this out in the audio.

616
00:38:49,320 --> 00:38:51,200
Speaker 1: They're gonna be really good. This is gonna be the

617
00:38:51,239 --> 00:39:00,400
Speaker 1: little trailer re release on Instagram. Um, okay, if god o,

618
00:39:01,080 --> 00:39:03,120
Speaker 1: you know what something that has happened literally since we've

619
00:39:03,120 --> 00:39:08,759
Speaker 1: been on hiatus. Be real quick thoughts each go. I

620
00:39:08,800 --> 00:39:10,840
Speaker 1: think it's boring, but I like it. It's boring, and

621
00:39:11,080 --> 00:39:15,680
Speaker 1: it's boring now quickly became boring, but I'll still do it.

622
00:39:14,440 --> 00:39:20,040
Speaker 1: It's like I wish it would be boring. Oh my god, real,

623
00:39:22,320 --> 00:39:30,600
Speaker 1: more like bow Real. Our first segment it's called Straight Shooters,

624
00:39:30,680 --> 00:39:32,799
Speaker 1: And in this segment, we gauge your familiar Oh this

625
00:39:32,840 --> 00:39:36,600
Speaker 1: is my favorite segment. In we gauge your familiarity with

626
00:39:36,680 --> 00:39:39,520
Speaker 1: and complicity and straight culture by asking you a series

627
00:39:39,560 --> 00:39:43,120
Speaker 1: of rapid fire uh questions where you have to choose

628
00:39:43,160 --> 00:39:46,080
Speaker 1: one thing or another thing or intact sometimes a third thing,

629
00:39:46,520 --> 00:39:48,719
Speaker 1: and the one rule is you can't ask any follow

630
00:39:48,760 --> 00:39:54,319
Speaker 1: up questions about how it works. Kapeche. This is I'm

631
00:39:54,360 --> 00:39:58,919
Speaker 1: not even kidding, my favorite segment in podcasting history. It's

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Speaker 1: so good, so you on the level. And I just

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Speaker 1: want to say that means the world coming from you.

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Speaker 1: Thank you. That means so much because so many people

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Speaker 1: in our podcasting life have told us we'd never be

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Speaker 1: good enough. And they said you're a freak and a

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Speaker 1: loser and nobody. And I said, well, you just wait,

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Speaker 1: because we've got a segment of our sleeves that's gonna

639
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Speaker 1: rock everyone's world. Honey, if they ain't pay in your bills,

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Speaker 1: pay them bitches, no mind. And I just want to

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Speaker 1: say smartypically specifically to Matt Rogers and Bone Yang, you

642
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Speaker 1: know who paved the way for so many of us

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Speaker 1: here at the office. I we noticed that what you

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Speaker 1: guys did when you had guests as you asked questions,

645
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Speaker 1: and we thought, how can we put a twist on that?

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Speaker 1: What if the questions are just words? Essential? That's essential? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's essential? Is um and it's and it's almost it's

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Speaker 1: almost a commentary. It's a commentary on the idea of

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Speaker 1: asking questions, Oh my god, you're so right at you

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Speaker 1: you No, I'm not okay, no, No, he's obsessed taking

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Speaker 1: away edging me. Okay, here, here we go. Boy's chromatic

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Speaker 1: a ball or basketball? Marjorie Taylor Green or Anya Taylor Joy,

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Speaker 1: Any Taylor Joy, Anya Taylor Joy. I see dead People

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Speaker 1: or I've seen Deadpool one and two. I said that

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Speaker 1: so far. Matt and I are in totally. Yeah, that's

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Speaker 1: really cool. Bodies bodies, bodies or location, location, location location, Okay,

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Speaker 1: it's true. Ignorance is bliss or knowledge is power. Ignor

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Speaker 1: ignorance bliss. You're can teller, Miles teller or if you

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Speaker 1: want to tell her, tell her yourself, if you want

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Speaker 1: to tell yourself, Okay, f X is the air Noah

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Speaker 1: bomb Box, the squid in the whale or C. S

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Speaker 1: Lewis is the Lion, the Witch and the wardrobe. C.

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Speaker 1: S Lewis, I've not seen I'm not yet seen the bear.

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Speaker 1: I apologize. Stacy's mom has got it going on? Or

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Speaker 1: our father who art in heaven Hell it would be

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Speaker 1: thy name saying wow, um, I think that was pretty good.

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Speaker 1: I think that you got I want to say, seven

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Speaker 1: hundred and fifty six doubs. No, not everyone can say that, well, well,

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Speaker 1: we have to leave the kind of logic of school work.

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Speaker 1: This isn't you know, we're not in class in some cultures,

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Speaker 1: In some cultures is seven hundreds something can be actually

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Speaker 1: even better than than than a thousand. Well, because sometimes

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Speaker 1: less is more, right. That's something Lady Gaga taught me.

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Speaker 1: Do you think Lady Gaga has ever thought less as

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Speaker 1: more or did you do you think she thought? No,

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Speaker 1: the piano has to well, you know, you have to

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Speaker 1: wear this bug costume, Shallow, the bug costume. We have

678
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Speaker 1: to talk about the bug costume. While she's saying shallow,

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Speaker 1: that was really something it was sell for. It was

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Speaker 1: dragon ball Z I love. It's not really about wearing

681
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Speaker 1: the bug costume. It is about wearing the bug mask

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Speaker 1: for Shallow and then taking it off and being like,

683
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Speaker 1: and now we're done being like. That was specifically for Shallow.

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Speaker 1: It wasn't like for this chapter of the concert. I

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Speaker 1: actually was dressed as a bug just for Shallow, and

686
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Speaker 1: she took it off so she could get real to

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Speaker 1: always remember us that song, because it was it would

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Speaker 1: be disrespectful to sing always remember us this way dedicated

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Speaker 1: to Tony Bennett's wife dressed as a man of the Wasp. Well, yeah,

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Speaker 1: well I actually think I do see a segue from

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Speaker 1: the bug to our topic. Yeah, should we tell you? Yeah? Okay,

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Speaker 1: our topic is. The topic is and randomness? Randomness? Wow?

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Speaker 1: But on the graphic you get you guys can do

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Speaker 1: awkwardness and then like in smaller and a smaller font

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Speaker 1: and random and random. Don't I don't want to random

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Speaker 1: disease because I don't think it's like parenthetical, but I

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Speaker 1: think it's like um, a subhead it's yeah, yeah, well

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Speaker 1: one implies the other. And please please listen to Bowen

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Speaker 1: when he says that because he has a very visual

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Speaker 1: and he needs it. He needs it to make sense visually,

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Speaker 1: just like I need thinks to make sense. Sonically, Bowen

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Speaker 1: is the eyes and I am the ears. You understand

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Speaker 1: which one of them? You understand? Which one of us

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Speaker 1: is the eyes and which one of us is the ears?

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Speaker 1: Would you say, mm hmmm, I don't know? Both pretty balanced?

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Speaker 1: I think. Well, canonically Sam is the mat on the

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Speaker 1: and George is the Bowen? Yeah? Sure? Or which makes

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Speaker 1: you the Sam is the salmon and George is the George?

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Speaker 1: That I would know because I would say that I'm

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Speaker 1: the same. I'm not saying like, who are you? Who

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Speaker 1: are you? You're not perfectly saying one thing over the other.

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Speaker 1: You are simply one thing over the other. And it's

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Speaker 1: also like to sit there and so like it's like

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Speaker 1: even just like bring up bones, like visual eye. It's

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Speaker 1: like we're we are like Matt and I are both

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Speaker 1: wearing tank tops on the zoom and George are both

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Speaker 1: sort of like in like kind of well lit, clean

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Speaker 1: white spaces with like and just scurried away and showed

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Speaker 1: he was wearing underwear. George, are you wearing only underwear?

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Speaker 1: I'm actually wearing a loungewear from H and m oh.

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Speaker 1: I love that brand. Um so our topic. I'm wearing underwear,

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Speaker 1: are you Yeah, I'm in a tank top and underwear.

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Speaker 1: We wait. Actual, I didn't have sex because I had

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Speaker 1: to say it with me Molly Dick. But but we

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Speaker 1: really enjoyed each other. That's all really good. Sometimes enjoying

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Speaker 1: each other is sex. You know. I really like just kissing.

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Speaker 1: Do you people love kissing? I love kissing. I love

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Speaker 1: being so romantic. I love making out a ball. That's

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Speaker 1: why when you gag and slay in the whole world. Okay,

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Speaker 1: let's hear. Let's I want to I wanna. I want

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Speaker 1: to hear a kind of maybe not so much a definition,

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Speaker 1: I want to put you on the spot, but kind

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Speaker 1: of what you think of when you think of randomness

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Speaker 1: and awkwardness. And then on top of that, why it

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Speaker 1: is a straight topic to you. I think on a

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Speaker 1: sensibility level, like awkwardness and randomness are paired together because

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Speaker 1: they um acknowledge how little sense the world makes, which

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Speaker 1: is great, but it doesn't cope with it in any

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Speaker 1: way except to say that's awkward or that's random. And

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Speaker 1: then I think, honestly, Sam Tagget, when I first met him,

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Speaker 1: what was like ten years ago, like with someone who

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Speaker 1: clued me into like this bit of like going okay,

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Speaker 1: like that's like I think that that kind of like

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Speaker 1: in a nutshell sums up awkward randomness. Like it's like, oh,

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Speaker 1: no comment, you know, like that kind of thing. Sure, sure, sure,

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Speaker 1: I think that straight people. And to talk about it

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00:47:42,840 --> 00:47:46,000
Speaker 1: this decade again, the twenty they sort of could feel

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Speaker 1: that queer was going to become cool, and they were like,

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Speaker 1: what's the way that we can be queer? Oh, not

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Speaker 1: make any sense. So they started to do like so

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Speaker 1: that you know, they started to get like a little

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00:47:58,920 --> 00:48:06,000
Speaker 1: awkward and random because it threw a wrench into ordinariness.

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Speaker 1: And I think that they started to sort of be

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Speaker 1: awkward and random professionally and commercially because I think that

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Speaker 1: it was the closest they could get to being queer. Interesting. Okay,

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00:48:19,520 --> 00:48:21,799
Speaker 1: so you're saying awkward and random was the painting of

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00:48:21,840 --> 00:48:29,879
Speaker 1: the fingernails of It's interesting because I think there are

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Speaker 1: two interpretations of this. It's like, on the one hand,

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Speaker 1: you have what you're talking about, like awkward and random

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00:48:35,520 --> 00:48:39,680
Speaker 1: humor were I'm thinking Napoleon Dynamite. Yes, that's perfect, okay.

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Speaker 1: And then on the other hand, to me, another element

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Speaker 1: of this is like seeing something and interpreting it as

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Speaker 1: awkward in random like seeing something out in the world,

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Speaker 1: and to me, what that is is you are uncomfortable,

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00:48:52,680 --> 00:48:54,080
Speaker 1: but you don't want to work on that, so you

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Speaker 1: just put a name on it, call it random, call

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00:48:56,239 --> 00:48:59,520
Speaker 1: it awkward, and then you don't have to deal with it. Exactly.

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Speaker 1: If someone is like saying something to you that is

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Speaker 1: making you question something, or or like that's something you

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Speaker 1: haven't heard before, something that is new. Then you can

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00:49:09,440 --> 00:49:11,280
Speaker 1: just kind of be like, oh, that's so random, instead

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Speaker 1: of being like, well, maybe hear that person out. Maybe

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Speaker 1: you're just not understanding maybe it's random to you because

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Speaker 1: you've never challenged yourself in your life. The dismissiveness of random,

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00:49:22,600 --> 00:49:28,359
Speaker 1: the dismissiveness of and yes, this is, this isn't this

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Speaker 1: is one of the most amazing conversations I've ever had.

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Speaker 1: I'm not choking academic. It's very academic, but it is.

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Speaker 1: I do think that is the that is the issue

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Speaker 1: with the tens. I think is that the world was

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Speaker 1: changing too fast for people to make sense of it.

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00:49:45,560 --> 00:49:47,800
Speaker 1: The only way they could was by calling things random

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00:49:47,800 --> 00:49:52,239
Speaker 1: and awkward, right, and not coping and not just moving on.

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00:49:52,600 --> 00:49:54,319
Speaker 1: But I think that's where like the humor comes from,

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00:49:54,360 --> 00:49:57,040
Speaker 1: because it's like, so Sudie Green was telling me about

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00:49:57,040 --> 00:50:00,480
Speaker 1: this roommate she had her freshman year of college, where um,

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00:50:00,520 --> 00:50:04,000
Speaker 1: the way she laughed was to go like this, what

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00:50:04,040 --> 00:50:08,080
Speaker 1: the fuck? Every time she laughed said what the funk

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Speaker 1: at the end, And I think that's something that's what

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00:50:11,520 --> 00:50:15,800
Speaker 1: the fuck? That is straightness, that that is a straight

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Speaker 1: way of like understanding the world of or reacting to something. Yes,

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00:50:21,480 --> 00:50:23,759
Speaker 1: because it is. You are not even allowing yourself the

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Speaker 1: vulnerability of laughing. You are immediately painting yourself as superior

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Speaker 1: because you're actually by saying, what the funk you are?

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00:50:30,200 --> 00:50:33,279
Speaker 1: Like what is that? Like, I'm I'm better than that.

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00:50:33,400 --> 00:50:36,120
Speaker 1: I'm not even going to address that, and it's like no,

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00:50:36,360 --> 00:50:43,400
Speaker 1: just laugh. Yeah. I wonder if that was freshman year.

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00:50:43,560 --> 00:50:45,680
Speaker 1: I wonder if that was like it's free. I wonder

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Speaker 1: if that was like a freshman year thing of like

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Speaker 1: I'm trying to have a thing or this is something

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Speaker 1: I'm picking up right now because I'm a little nervous.

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Speaker 1: Hashtag awkward knockward. Maybe they were the awkward one, And

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Speaker 1: I would really want to check in with that girl

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Speaker 1: to see if she still does that, because if she

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00:51:01,360 --> 00:51:04,399
Speaker 1: does and that's actually what she does, like that's like,

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00:51:04,960 --> 00:51:07,319
Speaker 1: you know, naturally, how she laughs and expresses that she

806
00:51:07,360 --> 00:51:10,200
Speaker 1: finds something funny, that person needs to be studied. And

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Speaker 1: there could be a hundred people in a room, but

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00:51:12,719 --> 00:51:17,520
Speaker 1: there can only be one that's that random. Yeah, well, okay,

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00:51:17,640 --> 00:51:20,600
Speaker 1: here's the question I have, because you know, we're lumping

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Speaker 1: these two things together. Can a person be awkward without

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Speaker 1: being random? Can a person be random? Without being awkward. Absolutely, well,

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00:51:27,800 --> 00:51:32,080
Speaker 1: if they're awkward all the time, it's not random. Wow, wow,

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00:51:39,760 --> 00:51:46,960
Speaker 1: I kind of love it. What she's actually a sl Unfortunately,

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00:51:48,080 --> 00:51:50,800
Speaker 1: that's actually queer. It's it's given. It is giving Napoleon

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Speaker 1: Dynamite in a way, like I could I feel like

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00:51:52,520 --> 00:51:54,800
Speaker 1: the character that was missing, and Napoleon Dynamite was the

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Speaker 1: one that was like who I love it? Actually? Um wait, wait,

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00:52:06,480 --> 00:52:11,240
Speaker 1: can somebody be random without being awkward? Um? Yes, yeah, Okay,

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00:52:11,840 --> 00:52:16,040
Speaker 1: we don't need to explore that one. For that, Okay,

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00:52:16,040 --> 00:52:19,360
Speaker 1: my next thought, okay, here here this one out. Okay,

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Speaker 1: and for my next thought, Okay, So people in the

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Speaker 1: twenty tens, I think it was sort of a top

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Speaker 1: down thing. I think the media was telling them that

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00:52:28,680 --> 00:52:31,839
Speaker 1: it was noble to be awkward and random, and so

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00:52:32,080 --> 00:52:35,280
Speaker 1: people that were like maybe feeling a little outsider leaned

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Speaker 1: into it because they were like, actually, if I'm if

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00:52:37,760 --> 00:52:40,480
Speaker 1: I own it, if I have awkward and random pride,

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Speaker 1: I'm actually the intellectual in this place. I'm actually the

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Speaker 1: humorous one, and I'm the hero of this story. Yes,

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Speaker 1: and that caused sun Dance movies that cost Hitchfork albums

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Speaker 1: that caused uh yeah, I mean even just like Zoey

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Speaker 1: Deschanel in her version one, I mean it caused blog

833
00:53:01,480 --> 00:53:07,680
Speaker 1: culture that cause everything it caused like too much personality

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Speaker 1: and headlines. It's everything, and I feel like it has

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Speaker 1: I forgive. The usage of the term trickled down into

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00:53:14,440 --> 00:53:17,640
Speaker 1: gen Z behavior where it's like, oh, we're proud of

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00:53:17,680 --> 00:53:23,040
Speaker 1: being like like they take pride or power in feeling

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00:53:23,160 --> 00:53:27,640
Speaker 1: like antisocial, even more so than like we were in Yes.

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Speaker 1: I think almost we've swung too far in the other direction,

840
00:53:30,280 --> 00:53:34,360
Speaker 1: where now um, randomness and awkwardness were we claimed to

841
00:53:34,400 --> 00:53:37,040
Speaker 1: such a degree yes, that you kind of want to

842
00:53:37,080 --> 00:53:42,240
Speaker 1: be like, okay, let's rein it back in yeah, because

843
00:53:42,280 --> 00:53:45,360
Speaker 1: sometimes it doesn't. Sometimes it's it's one thing to be random,

844
00:53:45,880 --> 00:53:48,800
Speaker 1: and it's another thing to just not make any fucking sense.

845
00:53:50,120 --> 00:53:52,359
Speaker 1: Like if you don't make any sense, I don't care,

846
00:53:52,600 --> 00:53:55,000
Speaker 1: Like I'm gonna walk away from you. I would even say,

847
00:53:55,840 --> 00:53:58,160
Speaker 1: I would even say a perfect example of someone in

848
00:53:58,160 --> 00:54:00,239
Speaker 1: the twenty Times who was in the twenty tense it

849
00:54:00,280 --> 00:54:03,600
Speaker 1: was random but not awkward was Gaga when she first

850
00:54:03,600 --> 00:54:07,040
Speaker 1: started out like Kermit the Frog dress, like all these

851
00:54:07,040 --> 00:54:10,680
Speaker 1: crazy things. You're like, what the fuck, But she wasn't

852
00:54:10,719 --> 00:54:13,200
Speaker 1: being awkward about it. She was like committing herself to

853
00:54:13,239 --> 00:54:16,800
Speaker 1: the bed while being random, and it always made sense

854
00:54:16,840 --> 00:54:19,120
Speaker 1: to her. It was random to us, but it was

855
00:54:19,160 --> 00:54:22,440
Speaker 1: always a comment. Yes, but do you know when? Do

856
00:54:22,480 --> 00:54:25,200
Speaker 1: you know what the one thing she did that was

857
00:54:25,239 --> 00:54:30,320
Speaker 1: interpreted as awkward, Joe Calderon, that was awkward, That was

858
00:54:30,120 --> 00:54:34,239
Speaker 1: that was awkward, That was not just random random, and

859
00:54:34,280 --> 00:54:37,520
Speaker 1: not even random, Not even random, Joe Calderon, was the

860
00:54:37,560 --> 00:54:44,960
Speaker 1: definition of when when randomness and awkwardness combine, that's when

861
00:54:45,000 --> 00:54:53,600
Speaker 1: you get to cringe. Oh wow, wow, wow, my my

862
00:54:53,719 --> 00:55:04,080
Speaker 1: thesis maybe mats the George this So really I think

863
00:55:04,080 --> 00:55:08,759
Speaker 1: we really excavated something. I understand the world better now.

864
00:55:09,000 --> 00:55:11,000
Speaker 1: I really wait, I just want to as a counter

865
00:55:11,440 --> 00:55:16,239
Speaker 1: you know things now that I didn't know then. Then Okay,

866
00:55:16,440 --> 00:55:20,399
Speaker 1: So if if random and awkward are straight, does that

867
00:55:20,440 --> 00:55:28,080
Speaker 1: mean normal is gay? Wow? I think there is. I

868
00:55:28,080 --> 00:55:31,440
Speaker 1: think there's a normy counter culture and gay culture right now.

869
00:55:32,000 --> 00:55:33,759
Speaker 1: Not even a counter culture. I think I think it's

870
00:55:33,800 --> 00:55:37,040
Speaker 1: just a culture. It's your genius. But no, no, no,

871
00:55:37,080 --> 00:55:40,840
Speaker 1: But I like, awkward and random are normy counter cultures.

872
00:55:40,880 --> 00:55:43,600
Speaker 1: So it's not like they're not normal. They are offshoots

873
00:55:43,600 --> 00:55:47,319
Speaker 1: of normal the fact that awkward and random exist. It

874
00:55:47,640 --> 00:55:52,320
Speaker 1: makes the normal hegemony stronger. Wow. For awkward and random

875
00:55:52,360 --> 00:55:55,400
Speaker 1: to exist, because it only props it up more totally,

876
00:55:55,440 --> 00:55:58,040
Speaker 1: awkward and random is have to Awkward and random have

877
00:55:58,239 --> 00:56:01,920
Speaker 1: to exist in opposition to something, and that's something is

878
00:56:02,920 --> 00:56:05,839
Speaker 1: and that entire ecosystem is straight. It's not like one

879
00:56:05,920 --> 00:56:09,920
Speaker 1: is queer and one is straight. The entire ecosystem of

880
00:56:10,280 --> 00:56:13,560
Speaker 1: normal and then normal and then things in opposition to normal.

881
00:56:15,120 --> 00:56:19,520
Speaker 1: I'm gonna draw it out. I'm gonna draw it out. Yes, Okay,

882
00:56:19,640 --> 00:56:23,319
Speaker 1: so it's a ven diagram. This is where Bowen is

883
00:56:23,320 --> 00:56:28,000
Speaker 1: the eyes and then okay, so you see awkward and

884
00:56:28,080 --> 00:56:30,520
Speaker 1: normal are two separate circles, but they are in the

885
00:56:30,600 --> 00:56:33,319
Speaker 1: Venn diagram, the bigger ven diagram of I'm taking a

886
00:56:33,320 --> 00:56:36,759
Speaker 1: screenshot so that we can post this, and I do think,

887
00:56:37,040 --> 00:56:38,880
Speaker 1: I do think. What would you could do is you

888
00:56:38,880 --> 00:56:41,239
Speaker 1: can make those circles in her lap and in the

889
00:56:41,280 --> 00:56:45,720
Speaker 1: middle is cringe because cringe is at the heart of straight.

890
00:56:45,800 --> 00:56:48,080
Speaker 1: It is you know, Bowen. Have you considered making them

891
00:56:48,080 --> 00:56:52,319
Speaker 1: in her lap? Yeah? Yeah, I'm gonna. I'm gonna think

892
00:56:52,320 --> 00:56:55,160
Speaker 1: about doing that. Weight Awkward and normal overlapping is not cringe.

893
00:56:55,200 --> 00:56:59,279
Speaker 1: You were saying awkward and random. Right, I'm sorry, I

894
00:57:00,160 --> 00:57:02,400
Speaker 1: may being not the eyes. I was having a difficult

895
00:57:02,400 --> 00:57:07,399
Speaker 1: time series. Oh I see what you're saying random. Yes, yes, yes,

896
00:57:08,840 --> 00:57:15,160
Speaker 1: that's random. Yeah. Oh okay, thank you for them. And

897
00:57:15,520 --> 00:57:19,840
Speaker 1: this is cringe. Okay, all right. I'm like, you're literally

898
00:57:19,880 --> 00:57:22,000
Speaker 1: making like a map for the beginning of some sort

899
00:57:22,000 --> 00:57:27,880
Speaker 1: of book. I think we write this, I need an

900
00:57:28,000 --> 00:57:32,040
Speaker 1: oral history from Napoleon Dynamite to Juno. Well, so you're

901
00:57:32,120 --> 00:57:34,760
Speaker 1: going more prestige also where it's like there is also

902
00:57:34,920 --> 00:57:38,360
Speaker 1: like yeah, yeah, I think of Napoleon Dynamite as prestige,

903
00:57:38,560 --> 00:57:41,560
Speaker 1: but I think random and I love them and they

904
00:57:42,080 --> 00:57:43,919
Speaker 1: raised me in many ways. But I think you can't

905
00:57:43,920 --> 00:57:48,320
Speaker 1: talk about random without talking about Lonely Island. I do

906
00:57:48,520 --> 00:57:52,400
Speaker 1: like hot Rod, Like hot Rod was almost peak Internet

907
00:57:52,520 --> 00:57:55,560
Speaker 1: random humor because like in a commercial like do you

908
00:57:55,560 --> 00:57:58,080
Speaker 1: remember like cool Beans remix while in the middle of

909
00:57:58,080 --> 00:58:00,280
Speaker 1: hot Rod, it's not it's not Lonely is As. You

910
00:58:00,280 --> 00:58:08,560
Speaker 1: know what the awkward random origin is what Homestar runner. Wow,

911
00:58:08,720 --> 00:58:14,320
Speaker 1: you're damned so fucking correct. Okay, here is my this

912
00:58:14,400 --> 00:58:16,800
Speaker 1: is my origin of awkward and random. That is like

913
00:58:17,360 --> 00:58:20,480
Speaker 1: you know, it's like, it's like this professor that studies

914
00:58:20,600 --> 00:58:23,040
Speaker 1: really kind of niche things and it's and it's going

915
00:58:23,080 --> 00:58:25,400
Speaker 1: to say something. Really, are you ready? It is the

916
00:58:26,120 --> 00:58:29,800
Speaker 1: it is the Amanda Show sketch the Girl's Room where

917
00:58:29,840 --> 00:58:33,080
Speaker 1: one of the girls always says, I like eggs. Oh

918
00:58:33,920 --> 00:58:40,320
Speaker 1: my god. Honestly, it's it does come for awkwardness and randomness.

919
00:58:40,680 --> 00:58:45,080
Speaker 1: It's the the generation that was old enough to appreciate

920
00:58:45,200 --> 00:58:49,800
Speaker 1: Napoleon Dynamite and like high school, their children shows were

921
00:58:49,840 --> 00:58:52,960
Speaker 1: the kind of things that were like eggs. Yeah, but

922
00:58:53,120 --> 00:58:56,640
Speaker 1: like like Gill, like Gilly, like being such a thing

923
00:58:56,720 --> 00:59:00,400
Speaker 1: for so long was because people in their childhood had

924
00:59:00,400 --> 00:59:05,360
Speaker 1: a trauma because they were watching kids shows where it

925
00:59:05,440 --> 00:59:09,000
Speaker 1: was like I like eggs or or or And in fact,

926
00:59:09,080 --> 00:59:11,160
Speaker 1: I'm not realizing so much of the Amanda Show was

927
00:59:11,200 --> 00:59:13,160
Speaker 1: like that, the one where she would always like whack

928
00:59:13,280 --> 00:59:18,720
Speaker 1: Drake Bell in the face a hill billion moment moment.

929
00:59:19,240 --> 00:59:23,400
Speaker 1: Another UM member Laurie best Denberg that that fucking segment

930
00:59:23,440 --> 00:59:26,880
Speaker 1: on all guys like that was this full slate but

931
00:59:26,920 --> 00:59:30,960
Speaker 1: it was random. Okay, how about the Andy Milanakas show

932
00:59:31,080 --> 00:59:39,600
Speaker 1: Vital Infamation Ye random? And so much MTV programming at

933
00:59:39,640 --> 00:59:43,040
Speaker 1: the time, and we love them, but we hate them

934
00:59:43,120 --> 00:59:44,640
Speaker 1: for what they did to our friends. But like adults

935
00:59:44,640 --> 00:59:46,919
Speaker 1: swim stuff and back in the day like Aquitine Hunger Force,

936
00:59:48,600 --> 00:59:51,360
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, random, it's the fries or talking

937
00:59:51,360 --> 00:59:55,760
Speaker 1: to the meatballs or what you know, Like, I don't know,

938
00:59:56,080 --> 00:59:59,640
Speaker 1: this is tough. This is to like good Burger, Like

939
00:59:59,680 --> 01:00:02,600
Speaker 1: aren't orange soda? Yes exactly. It's like, what is the

940
01:00:02,680 --> 01:00:07,360
Speaker 1: joke with who loves orange soda? Killer's range soda? I do?

941
01:00:07,480 --> 01:00:11,080
Speaker 1: I do? I do you? That's funny, very random? You

942
01:00:11,120 --> 01:00:13,560
Speaker 1: know what else this is bringing? Wait, this is actually

943
01:00:13,960 --> 01:00:18,360
Speaker 1: I'm having a huge insight. Okay, I'm actually skitches that

944
01:00:19,480 --> 01:00:23,720
Speaker 1: this is related to the overreliance on just references. Like

945
01:00:23,800 --> 01:00:26,600
Speaker 1: just because something is a reference doesn't make it interesting

946
01:00:26,800 --> 01:00:30,200
Speaker 1: or funny or insightful, but it does make it random.

947
01:00:30,440 --> 01:00:33,840
Speaker 1: If you just reference something, it's and that's like the

948
01:00:33,880 --> 01:00:36,160
Speaker 1: orange soda thing. It's like, okay, great, now we know

949
01:00:36,240 --> 01:00:38,920
Speaker 1: this is a joke. Whenever they mentioned orange soda, you

950
01:00:38,960 --> 01:00:43,560
Speaker 1: just know to laugh. Yeah, yeah, can I can I

951
01:00:43,560 --> 01:00:46,600
Speaker 1: be really random right now? Yeah? If you're not awkward.

952
01:00:47,920 --> 01:00:52,040
Speaker 1: We found out that Trump has violated the Espionage Act.

953
01:00:52,840 --> 01:00:56,120
Speaker 1: They did find top top secret info at marl Large.

954
01:00:56,240 --> 01:00:59,720
Speaker 1: Are you reading Twitter while you're you're reading No, no, no, no,

955
01:00:59,760 --> 01:01:03,280
Speaker 1: I'm my literally popped up on my phone as a notification,

956
01:01:03,280 --> 01:01:04,920
Speaker 1: and I literally it was like this, and then it

957
01:01:04,960 --> 01:01:06,920
Speaker 1: went it lit up like that because I saw the

958
01:01:06,920 --> 01:01:08,880
Speaker 1: news headline, can I tell you something, Matt. When I

959
01:01:08,920 --> 01:01:11,360
Speaker 1: saw your face change, I thought you were offended because

960
01:01:11,400 --> 01:01:15,520
Speaker 1: I made a light joke about you saying, um, interlap

961
01:01:15,560 --> 01:01:17,520
Speaker 1: And I literally this entire time thought that you were

962
01:01:17,560 --> 01:01:19,440
Speaker 1: mad at me because I said that. No, I'm not

963
01:01:19,480 --> 01:01:21,760
Speaker 1: mad at you. I said interlap you. He said that,

964
01:01:22,080 --> 01:01:25,800
Speaker 1: so he was mad at I've been thinking this entire

965
01:01:25,880 --> 01:01:28,320
Speaker 1: time how much I love you. I've actually been thinking

966
01:01:28,320 --> 01:01:31,560
Speaker 1: at this entire time, especially last night, and I was

967
01:01:31,600 --> 01:01:34,480
Speaker 1: so excited. I was like, I love everyone here. I'm

968
01:01:34,480 --> 01:01:38,600
Speaker 1: sorry to be a fucking idiot, but I loved everyone

969
01:01:38,720 --> 01:01:41,520
Speaker 1: last night. I actually and when you when you guys

970
01:01:41,600 --> 01:01:43,960
Speaker 1: had your when you guys had your earnest moment in

971
01:01:44,000 --> 01:01:47,480
Speaker 1: the beginning, I loved that. Last night. I felt an

972
01:01:47,520 --> 01:01:52,560
Speaker 1: overwhelming almost um I would say it was almost a

973
01:01:52,680 --> 01:01:55,160
Speaker 1: sadness in the knowledge that I will never be able

974
01:01:55,160 --> 01:01:57,840
Speaker 1: to express to each person how much they mean to me.

975
01:01:58,040 --> 01:02:03,520
Speaker 1: It was so special. Yes, you last night, Bone and

976
01:02:03,560 --> 01:02:05,400
Speaker 1: I had a very we had a nice moment, a

977
01:02:05,480 --> 01:02:08,200
Speaker 1: nice moment, quick quick quick things in each other's ears,

978
01:02:08,680 --> 01:02:12,040
Speaker 1: very quick affirmations of love to each other. It's very important.

979
01:02:12,200 --> 01:02:15,200
Speaker 1: It's very important. It's gotta do I I can't recommend

980
01:02:15,200 --> 01:02:16,920
Speaker 1: it enough. And you guys did that earlier and it

981
01:02:16,960 --> 01:02:20,200
Speaker 1: was so beautiful. Even if it was sort of a

982
01:02:20,200 --> 01:02:22,280
Speaker 1: little bit of a joke, I knew it was real.

983
01:02:22,520 --> 01:02:24,080
Speaker 1: Sam and I have been doing it more and more.

984
01:02:24,120 --> 01:02:28,120
Speaker 1: I would say. I also like, there's just something. I mean,

985
01:02:28,240 --> 01:02:30,280
Speaker 1: when I'm in a room with Sam, I feel safer.

986
01:02:31,600 --> 01:02:37,080
Speaker 1: It's true. That is the ultimate carbons Fanza starts now, um,

987
01:02:37,160 --> 01:02:39,240
Speaker 1: but yeah, I do feel like I have to explain

988
01:02:39,320 --> 01:02:41,760
Speaker 1: less to George and he just sort of understands. It's like,

989
01:02:42,080 --> 01:02:45,440
Speaker 1: that's where I'm coming from. It's really nice. Earnestness is

990
01:02:45,480 --> 01:02:48,280
Speaker 1: the least awkward. Sometimes it can be awkward, but it's

991
01:02:48,320 --> 01:02:51,560
Speaker 1: the least random thing. Well, you know that awkward if

992
01:02:51,600 --> 01:02:54,360
Speaker 1: the receiving party is not committing to list honny. You know,

993
01:02:54,480 --> 01:02:59,760
Speaker 1: awkwardness and randomness are literally a reaction to being genuine

994
01:02:59,760 --> 01:03:03,320
Speaker 1: and be real, Like fear. It is a complete fear

995
01:03:03,400 --> 01:03:07,000
Speaker 1: dased response, so like, yeah, of course, it's like why

996
01:03:07,120 --> 01:03:10,160
Speaker 1: is Napoleon Dynamite written like that? Or why is sorry

997
01:03:10,240 --> 01:03:12,920
Speaker 1: Juno written like that? Because they can't say what they mean.

998
01:03:14,960 --> 01:03:18,320
Speaker 1: But by the end, Juno does say what she means exactly,

999
01:03:18,400 --> 01:03:21,080
Speaker 1: thank you. That's my point, you know what, if you

1000
01:03:21,120 --> 01:03:24,000
Speaker 1: know you know what? My favorite, my favorite part of

1001
01:03:24,600 --> 01:03:29,560
Speaker 1: Juno is at the end when um, she says to

1002
01:03:29,560 --> 01:03:32,040
Speaker 1: Michael Sarah like, I just like you're you don't even

1003
01:03:32,080 --> 01:03:34,160
Speaker 1: really try. You're so cool and you don't even really try.

1004
01:03:34,320 --> 01:03:37,040
Speaker 1: And he says, I try really hard. Actually, you know,

1005
01:03:37,280 --> 01:03:41,280
Speaker 1: I actually complete You're right, and I completely take back

1006
01:03:41,320 --> 01:03:44,440
Speaker 1: my examples. It's what is a good example of what

1007
01:03:44,480 --> 01:03:46,920
Speaker 1: I'm saying. It's like using it as a defense mechanism,

1008
01:03:46,920 --> 01:03:49,600
Speaker 1: like using awkwardness and randomness as a defense mechanism. The

1009
01:03:49,760 --> 01:03:52,480
Speaker 1: character of Juno does that. The character of Juno, I

1010
01:03:52,480 --> 01:03:54,200
Speaker 1: would say, it's even like yeah, it's almost like the

1011
01:03:54,240 --> 01:03:56,480
Speaker 1: ethos of the movie rather than the actual movie itself.

1012
01:03:56,520 --> 01:03:59,760
Speaker 1: It's like, yes, there's a certain distance, like it doesn't

1013
01:03:59,840 --> 01:04:02,640
Speaker 1: like you in too close, which I guess is why

1014
01:04:02,680 --> 01:04:06,520
Speaker 1: it works ultimately, because then it's even more rewarding at

1015
01:04:06,520 --> 01:04:08,760
Speaker 1: the end when they do get earnest. Yeah, it's sort

1016
01:04:08,760 --> 01:04:12,840
Speaker 1: of a sort of a commentary on random not not song.

1017
01:04:13,440 --> 01:04:15,280
Speaker 1: They sing a song with each other, which is the

1018
01:04:15,320 --> 01:04:18,040
Speaker 1: most intimate thing you can do. Like, they sing a

1019
01:04:18,120 --> 01:04:22,040
Speaker 1: song together, which is so you know, that song is

1020
01:04:22,160 --> 01:04:25,480
Speaker 1: peak random in terms of the lyrical content. The political

1021
01:04:25,520 --> 01:04:28,280
Speaker 1: content is random, and and for your band to be

1022
01:04:28,320 --> 01:04:32,760
Speaker 1: called the multi Peaches is random. But they were but

1023
01:04:32,840 --> 01:04:36,080
Speaker 1: that they had a shared sense of humor and they

1024
01:04:36,120 --> 01:04:38,480
Speaker 1: were sharing it with each other, and there is intimacy,

1025
01:04:38,600 --> 01:04:42,600
Speaker 1: and that they're also supposed to be children. Their flawed,

1026
01:04:42,720 --> 01:04:46,800
Speaker 1: they're dumb, they're supposed to have bad, bad taste and whatever.

1027
01:04:47,320 --> 01:04:51,440
Speaker 1: We're almost like, okay, not everything is random, you know

1028
01:04:51,480 --> 01:04:54,000
Speaker 1: what I mean, Like we're sort of putting everything in

1029
01:04:54,080 --> 01:04:56,560
Speaker 1: random and it's like somethings are weird and that's different

1030
01:04:56,560 --> 01:05:01,320
Speaker 1: than random. Actually, um and Sam is petty. Sam is

1031
01:05:01,360 --> 01:05:03,640
Speaker 1: really mad. No, this is why I try to pour

1032
01:05:03,720 --> 01:05:05,640
Speaker 1: my heart out to him. He's like, first of all, bitch,

1033
01:05:05,760 --> 01:05:08,960
Speaker 1: not everything's random. First of all, I think I think

1034
01:05:09,000 --> 01:05:11,680
Speaker 1: we can look. It's my job in this podcast sometimes

1035
01:05:11,680 --> 01:05:14,840
Speaker 1: stop us from getting carried away, because it can start

1036
01:05:14,880 --> 01:05:18,520
Speaker 1: to feel like you know, yes, that that that that,

1037
01:05:18,600 --> 01:05:24,800
Speaker 1: and it's like, actually not all that. So sometimes, like

1038
01:05:25,160 --> 01:05:28,480
Speaker 1: I think we're a lot of humor, and some humor

1039
01:05:28,720 --> 01:05:33,360
Speaker 1: is silly but not inherently random. I love silly. I

1040
01:05:33,400 --> 01:05:37,560
Speaker 1: love silly love of course, I mean it's politically necessary.

1041
01:05:38,520 --> 01:05:41,640
Speaker 1: I love silly. I love stupid. I don't really like awkward.

1042
01:05:41,680 --> 01:05:44,440
Speaker 1: I don't like awkward or random. Um okay, wait, I

1043
01:05:44,480 --> 01:05:47,640
Speaker 1: have on do you count? Like I'd say, like Nathan

1044
01:05:47,800 --> 01:05:51,040
Speaker 1: for You is awkward, but it's awkward done really well

1045
01:05:51,200 --> 01:05:53,600
Speaker 1: the way I was going to say that exact same thing.

1046
01:05:54,360 --> 01:05:58,040
Speaker 1: It's awkward. Yeah, it's like it's awkward sort of in

1047
01:05:58,040 --> 01:06:00,959
Speaker 1: the same space as like improv, where it's like, yeah,

1048
01:06:01,000 --> 01:06:03,720
Speaker 1: when it's bad, it's horrible, but when it's good it

1049
01:06:03,880 --> 01:06:06,720
Speaker 1: is sort of magical. But it's awkward in a very

1050
01:06:06,800 --> 01:06:10,400
Speaker 1: controlled way, in a way that is that leaves you

1051
01:06:10,440 --> 01:06:14,880
Speaker 1: watching it questioning the reality of things. I think it

1052
01:06:14,920 --> 01:06:17,600
Speaker 1: transcends awkward. I don't think awkward is the right label.

1053
01:06:17,880 --> 01:06:19,800
Speaker 1: I do think it is a It is a commentary

1054
01:06:19,840 --> 01:06:22,520
Speaker 1: on awkward in random much like Juno. Nathan for You

1055
01:06:22,640 --> 01:06:28,000
Speaker 1: is very much the Juno of show that's been off

1056
01:06:28,000 --> 01:06:34,600
Speaker 1: the airplane. Yea, yeah, Okay, No, see Nathan for You

1057
01:06:34,840 --> 01:06:41,760
Speaker 1: is cringe. Okay, okay, okay, okay. Neither of you uses

1058
01:06:41,960 --> 01:06:49,280
Speaker 1: cringe to comment on awkward It takes awkward to the

1059
01:06:49,280 --> 01:06:56,960
Speaker 1: most heightened place so that you see the truth. Okay.

1060
01:06:56,960 --> 01:07:00,200
Speaker 1: And also it's it's not using it's not um it's

1061
01:07:00,240 --> 01:07:02,880
Speaker 1: not using awkwardness as a crutch like many of these

1062
01:07:02,920 --> 01:07:06,200
Speaker 1: things that we are. It's not using awkwardness. It's about

1063
01:07:06,280 --> 01:07:09,440
Speaker 1: awkwardness like it is an investigation of awkwardness more so

1064
01:07:09,560 --> 01:07:13,560
Speaker 1: than relying on awkwardness as a crutch because at a

1065
01:07:13,600 --> 01:07:18,600
Speaker 1: loss for other things, exactly, And a perfect example is

1066
01:07:18,800 --> 01:07:21,360
Speaker 1: an early episode of Nathan for You where he works

1067
01:07:21,360 --> 01:07:23,959
Speaker 1: with a gas station attendant and then it goes great,

1068
01:07:23,960 --> 01:07:25,920
Speaker 1: and at the very end, the gas station attendant, out

1069
01:07:25,960 --> 01:07:29,720
Speaker 1: of nowhere, starts talking about how he drinks his grandson's

1070
01:07:29,760 --> 01:07:33,960
Speaker 1: peace sometimes and it comes it really comes out of nowhere,

1071
01:07:34,560 --> 01:07:36,960
Speaker 1: and then Nathan Fielder like, I think, I think, I

1072
01:07:36,960 --> 01:07:38,640
Speaker 1: think this is a real moment. But it's one of

1073
01:07:38,680 --> 01:07:40,480
Speaker 1: those things in the show where you're like, is this real?

1074
01:07:40,800 --> 01:07:43,439
Speaker 1: But Nathan Fielder, the real person is like wait, what,

1075
01:07:44,400 --> 01:07:47,760
Speaker 1: like what are you talking about? And that is awkward,

1076
01:07:48,120 --> 01:07:51,240
Speaker 1: random and cringe. All three it's all three and one thing,

1077
01:07:51,600 --> 01:07:56,280
Speaker 1: the Holy trenity, awkward, random, and cringe and no one's

1078
01:07:56,320 --> 01:07:59,680
Speaker 1: done it since The Office. Thank you, Steve, Thank you

1079
01:07:59,760 --> 01:08:02,320
Speaker 1: you are an icon. Everything you've done to the community

1080
01:08:03,120 --> 01:08:06,760
Speaker 1: is awkward. Yes, yes, that is actually such a great

1081
01:08:07,200 --> 01:08:10,760
Speaker 1: example that that we hadn't touched on is actually mockumentary

1082
01:08:10,760 --> 01:08:15,680
Speaker 1: in general is like, oh my god, George, you're so right. Yeah,

1083
01:08:15,680 --> 01:08:18,519
Speaker 1: like when done well, like to me, Christopher, Guests movies

1084
01:08:18,560 --> 01:08:22,200
Speaker 1: are like the biggest pleasure. It's like the perfect movies

1085
01:08:22,800 --> 01:08:25,559
Speaker 1: because much like Nathan for you, they actually are it's

1086
01:08:25,600 --> 01:08:27,960
Speaker 1: about the subject of those things rather than using them

1087
01:08:27,960 --> 01:08:32,400
Speaker 1: as crutches. Whereas The Office at its worst, not always

1088
01:08:32,479 --> 01:08:36,679
Speaker 1: at its worst, is just using awkwardness and randomness. Well

1089
01:08:36,680 --> 01:08:39,240
Speaker 1: it uses it as like a sprinkle because like I

1090
01:08:39,240 --> 01:08:41,880
Speaker 1: think The Office is a good show, and then like

1091
01:08:41,880 --> 01:08:45,080
Speaker 1: like I need like way less of Jim being like random,

1092
01:08:45,320 --> 01:08:50,240
Speaker 1: like yes, weird, Like Jim is one of the worst

1093
01:08:50,240 --> 01:08:53,639
Speaker 1: parts of right, And I feel bad saying that because

1094
01:08:53,680 --> 01:08:56,320
Speaker 1: you kind of need him to even have The Office

1095
01:08:56,400 --> 01:08:58,880
Speaker 1: because like it's so like when you think of the Office,

1096
01:08:58,920 --> 01:09:01,040
Speaker 1: like probably top three things you think about is Jim

1097
01:09:01,080 --> 01:09:05,240
Speaker 1: looking at the camera like but but Jim is Jim

1098
01:09:05,280 --> 01:09:10,559
Speaker 1: is awkward, and Dwight is random. Yes, yeah, and Michael

1099
01:09:11,320 --> 01:09:16,559
Speaker 1: and Michael Scott is correct. Yes. Wait, one tiny little

1100
01:09:16,600 --> 01:09:19,240
Speaker 1: footnote is about when we were talking about improv briefly.

1101
01:09:19,520 --> 01:09:22,320
Speaker 1: Improv in fact, is the definition of random because it's

1102
01:09:22,360 --> 01:09:25,840
Speaker 1: literally give us a topic. Like it's literally pick a

1103
01:09:25,960 --> 01:09:30,000
Speaker 1: random thing and then build something around it. Yeah. Wait,

1104
01:09:30,040 --> 01:09:32,599
Speaker 1: I have a question. Yeah, do you guys think John

1105
01:09:32,640 --> 01:09:38,760
Speaker 1: Grazinski is hot? Yeah? No, I don't either. I mean,

1106
01:09:38,840 --> 01:09:41,240
Speaker 1: he seems lovely, just doesn't He just doesn't do it

1107
01:09:41,280 --> 01:09:44,000
Speaker 1: for me. But it's fine. Much like many of these

1108
01:09:44,240 --> 01:09:46,160
Speaker 1: I heard he is not lovely. I heard he's well

1109
01:09:46,160 --> 01:09:48,040
Speaker 1: then there you go. Yeah, that's what I've heard. Jims

1110
01:09:48,160 --> 01:09:51,040
Speaker 1: has Juma says he's an absolute and that's fact checked.

1111
01:09:53,000 --> 01:09:56,240
Speaker 1: I do think that much like many of these guys.

1112
01:09:56,680 --> 01:09:59,000
Speaker 1: And this is I'm not saying anything new, but I'm like, yeah,

1113
01:09:59,120 --> 01:10:01,519
Speaker 1: he was hot when it was like a surprise that

1114
01:10:01,560 --> 01:10:03,559
Speaker 1: he was hot, He's not hot now that he's like

1115
01:10:03,600 --> 01:10:08,519
Speaker 1: funded by the CIA. Yeah, like to look at him

1116
01:10:08,520 --> 01:10:10,720
Speaker 1: in the office and be like, you know what kind

1117
01:10:10,720 --> 01:10:12,960
Speaker 1: of round them that I find him hot? Now that

1118
01:10:13,600 --> 01:10:21,600
Speaker 1: it's awkward, that's awkward admitting with my wife. You know

1119
01:10:21,640 --> 01:10:25,560
Speaker 1: what's weird? Like it's like The Office had John Krasinski

1120
01:10:25,640 --> 01:10:28,920
Speaker 1: become hot leading man, and Parks and Rec had Chris

1121
01:10:28,960 --> 01:10:32,920
Speaker 1: Pratt become hot leading man exactly, but we're not seeing

1122
01:10:33,000 --> 01:10:36,960
Speaker 1: anything from uh, thirty Rock. Where is the hot leading

1123
01:10:36,960 --> 01:10:39,960
Speaker 1: man from thirty Rock? Why isn't Jack McBrayer in the

1124
01:10:40,200 --> 01:10:42,720
Speaker 1: Marvel cinematic? In what I want to know? I think

1125
01:10:42,920 --> 01:10:44,360
Speaker 1: that's really what I'm saying. You know, I think it

1126
01:10:44,439 --> 01:10:48,439
Speaker 1: is so hot and truly, like is just whatever is

1127
01:10:48,520 --> 01:10:52,800
Speaker 1: so hot? Is Jonathan from thirty Rock Mole Pincholi a

1128
01:10:52,840 --> 01:10:55,800
Speaker 1: sweetheart in real life? And is I'm so attracted to

1129
01:10:55,880 --> 01:10:59,600
Speaker 1: him deeply? And I want to say, like Juilliard, like

1130
01:10:59,680 --> 01:11:12,080
Speaker 1: he's like a real wonderful Wait which one Jonathan oh

1131
01:11:09,640 --> 01:11:15,960
Speaker 1: when started his career as hot leading man? No, well

1132
01:11:16,000 --> 01:11:18,639
Speaker 1: that's someone who started his career as a hot leading man.

1133
01:11:18,760 --> 01:11:21,160
Speaker 1: The premise of what I was saying, Hans, if you listen,

1134
01:11:21,760 --> 01:11:24,320
Speaker 1: was that it's someone from the show who then became

1135
01:11:24,360 --> 01:11:27,400
Speaker 1: a hot leading man. It's someone it's someone that like

1136
01:11:27,600 --> 01:11:29,880
Speaker 1: was not put there to be hot. And then people

1137
01:11:29,880 --> 01:11:33,160
Speaker 1: were like, wait, that person is hot, right? Yeah, thanks,

1138
01:11:33,439 --> 01:11:39,640
Speaker 1: but thanks I you're gonna get glimpse into my relationship

1139
01:11:39,680 --> 01:11:44,160
Speaker 1: with Hans, which is really a very flirt very flirting. God,

1140
01:11:44,520 --> 01:11:47,920
Speaker 1: I had no idea. It's sort of random when you

1141
01:11:48,040 --> 01:11:50,479
Speaker 1: are wanting to flirt with someone and you're nasty to them,

1142
01:11:50,520 --> 01:11:53,800
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. I guess I was thinking.

1143
01:11:53,800 --> 01:11:56,639
Speaker 1: It's more like sounds like illegal, Like it's like you're

1144
01:11:56,680 --> 01:11:59,559
Speaker 1: like flirting with like a coworker, you know what it means,

1145
01:11:59,560 --> 01:12:02,479
Speaker 1: like you should it sounds yeah, it sounds like we

1146
01:12:02,479 --> 01:12:05,040
Speaker 1: should call nine one one and not the one in CHROMATICA. Yeah,

1147
01:12:05,080 --> 01:12:11,320
Speaker 1: I'm talking jail time Darling. Kim Petra said, Problematique, Problematique,

1148
01:12:11,479 --> 01:12:15,000
Speaker 1: that should be my album? When what are we gonna

1149
01:12:15,040 --> 01:12:20,200
Speaker 1: do about her? There's no time? Can you say that again?

1150
01:12:20,400 --> 01:12:28,800
Speaker 1: Problematique that should be my album? What the fuck? I mean?

1151
01:12:28,920 --> 01:12:32,280
Speaker 1: Why are we laughing? Why are we laughing? We laughing

1152
01:12:32,320 --> 01:12:36,479
Speaker 1: at the metal? Amazing? It's amazing. Are were laughing on

1153
01:12:36,680 --> 01:12:40,840
Speaker 1: on a meta level? At Yeah, Well, I think the

1154
01:12:40,920 --> 01:12:43,320
Speaker 1: funny thing is that there is this person Soudo knows

1155
01:12:43,360 --> 01:12:45,920
Speaker 1: that did that. It's not like that's the funny thing.

1156
01:12:46,000 --> 01:12:48,760
Speaker 1: But also there's, um, there's an SNL sketch that I

1157
01:12:48,760 --> 01:12:51,080
Speaker 1: think is also I'm sorry but this is before my time,

1158
01:12:51,120 --> 01:12:54,040
Speaker 1: but there's ob cessily strong and Scarlett Johnson dressed up

1159
01:12:54,040 --> 01:12:57,080
Speaker 1: in like nerdy clothes going to a museum. They're like

1160
01:12:57,160 --> 01:13:00,200
Speaker 1: going in front of this dinosaur skeleton and then like

1161
01:13:00,280 --> 01:13:02,320
Speaker 1: you know, someone's explaining what the dinosaur is, and then

1162
01:13:02,360 --> 01:13:04,160
Speaker 1: both of them it's piece of a pot and both

1163
01:13:04,160 --> 01:13:07,800
Speaker 1: of them are like, okay, giant, what have you been?

1164
01:13:07,840 --> 01:13:11,960
Speaker 1: A giant turt under the dino? And everyone's gonna be like, um,

1165
01:13:12,040 --> 01:13:14,720
Speaker 1: that happened, you know, like it's like, but why are

1166
01:13:14,760 --> 01:13:18,280
Speaker 1: we laughing at that? Because we're laughing at that kind

1167
01:13:18,280 --> 01:13:21,519
Speaker 1: of the idea because those people are so we know

1168
01:13:21,600 --> 01:13:24,240
Speaker 1: those people and they're like annoying and we wanted someone

1169
01:13:24,280 --> 01:13:26,000
Speaker 1: to make fun of them for a long time. And

1170
01:13:26,040 --> 01:13:30,240
Speaker 1: also in the peg, so that so that happened is

1171
01:13:30,400 --> 01:13:33,599
Speaker 1: exactly what we were saying of like seeing something that

1172
01:13:34,000 --> 01:13:36,960
Speaker 1: seeing something that makes you uncomfortable or as somehow um

1173
01:13:37,240 --> 01:13:40,120
Speaker 1: foreign and then not knowing bring it down to your

1174
01:13:40,200 --> 01:13:47,000
Speaker 1: level by being like okay, okay, I guess so uh

1175
01:13:47,320 --> 01:13:53,519
Speaker 1: are we all? We all saw that? And those people

1176
01:13:53,560 --> 01:13:56,280
Speaker 1: that those people thinking they're funny, It drives me crazy,

1177
01:13:56,479 --> 01:13:59,200
Speaker 1: like just being like, well that happened, like okay, don't

1178
01:13:59,240 --> 01:14:03,639
Speaker 1: sell you that, and or like that kind of like jokes.

1179
01:14:03,800 --> 01:14:09,960
Speaker 1: So I guess that's not a joke. Okay, I guess

1180
01:14:10,000 --> 01:14:15,800
Speaker 1: we're having this converse. It's very like Midwestern like barbecue humor.

1181
01:14:16,200 --> 01:14:18,360
Speaker 1: My mom, you always go to the Midwest when you

1182
01:14:18,400 --> 01:14:24,679
Speaker 1: want to sell something. Honey, I've earned it, I've spent

1183
01:14:24,760 --> 01:14:27,720
Speaker 1: my time there. I I don't need it anymore. I know.

1184
01:14:27,800 --> 01:14:29,880
Speaker 1: It's just I guess I'm always thinking of like my

1185
01:14:29,920 --> 01:14:32,240
Speaker 1: parents friends and like the ones that I think they're funny.

1186
01:14:32,240 --> 01:14:37,040
Speaker 1: I'm always like, oh no, here we go, and it

1187
01:14:37,120 --> 01:14:41,080
Speaker 1: hurts every time. Sorry, sorry, if sorry, If you're okay,

1188
01:14:41,120 --> 01:14:43,320
Speaker 1: if you're listening to this podcast and you're my parents friend,

1189
01:14:43,800 --> 01:14:47,400
Speaker 1: I'm sorry. I'm but you're not funny. But you're not

1190
01:14:47,439 --> 01:14:49,960
Speaker 1: funny period. And if you listen to this and your

1191
01:14:49,960 --> 01:14:53,639
Speaker 1: instinct is to go, well, he said that that happened,

1192
01:14:53,640 --> 01:14:59,080
Speaker 1: that you're proving his point. Stupid, stupid, idiot, fool, go

1193
01:14:59,160 --> 01:15:01,439
Speaker 1: back to cost to my parents. So what are the

1194
01:15:01,840 --> 01:15:06,080
Speaker 1: so so, what are the correct ways to react to things?

1195
01:15:06,840 --> 01:15:09,799
Speaker 1: I feel this way. I feel sad, I feel happy,

1196
01:15:09,920 --> 01:15:13,080
Speaker 1: I feel scared, yeah, be honest about your feelings. For once.

1197
01:15:13,680 --> 01:15:16,599
Speaker 1: It's Renee Brown. Label the feeling, because then it shapes

1198
01:15:16,640 --> 01:15:19,519
Speaker 1: the experience. Okay, just say how you feel, because the

1199
01:15:19,800 --> 01:15:23,200
Speaker 1: word bingo defines the experience theory. Because guess what by

1200
01:15:23,240 --> 01:15:27,040
Speaker 1: saying so that happened, you're literally taking making yourself even

1201
01:15:27,320 --> 01:15:30,479
Speaker 1: you're putting even more distance between what between you and

1202
01:15:30,520 --> 01:15:33,799
Speaker 1: what you're experiencing. You should be putting, We're gonna always

1203
01:15:33,840 --> 01:15:37,280
Speaker 1: remember something this way if you say, well, that happened

1204
01:15:37,320 --> 01:15:40,639
Speaker 1: every single time, Like to always remember something this way,

1205
01:15:40,680 --> 01:15:43,200
Speaker 1: you have to have a way like not just the

1206
01:15:43,200 --> 01:15:46,759
Speaker 1: way you not just a standard. Even just saying after

1207
01:15:46,800 --> 01:15:50,799
Speaker 1: something happens, I'll always remember us this way. That locks

1208
01:15:50,840 --> 01:15:54,760
Speaker 1: it in. That's it is. It is literally the opposite

1209
01:15:54,760 --> 01:15:59,400
Speaker 1: of so that happened. Because imagine if literally what was

1210
01:15:59,479 --> 01:16:01,920
Speaker 1: his name in the movie Jackson Maine. If if Jackson

1211
01:16:01,920 --> 01:16:04,559
Speaker 1: Maine pissed himself on stage with the Grammys and Ali

1212
01:16:04,680 --> 01:16:08,840
Speaker 1: literally just going so, I guess that happened. Okay, wait,

1213
01:16:09,000 --> 01:16:12,160
Speaker 1: but if that actually happened, I would be laughing. That

1214
01:16:12,680 --> 01:16:15,240
Speaker 1: wouldn't be the funniest thing I had ever seen. It

1215
01:16:15,760 --> 01:16:21,840
Speaker 1: cuts to her happened, Okay, and then just one part

1216
01:16:21,880 --> 01:16:26,559
Speaker 1: where she's like, I guess this is adulting, Like we're

1217
01:16:26,680 --> 01:16:30,519
Speaker 1: making laugh so major plot point in any movie like

1218
01:16:30,520 --> 01:16:37,080
Speaker 1: that Titanic thinking, uh that that happened. Okay, so I

1219
01:16:37,080 --> 01:16:42,559
Speaker 1: guess we're sinking. Now do you know you literally do

1220
01:16:42,560 --> 01:16:46,280
Speaker 1: you know what we're literally describing? What say it with me? Marvel?

1221
01:16:47,280 --> 01:16:50,400
Speaker 1: Oh my god? Really this is what Marvel is. Marvel

1222
01:16:50,520 --> 01:16:56,040
Speaker 1: is the ultimate triumph of awkward and random random. Yes, yes,

1223
01:16:57,920 --> 01:17:04,040
Speaker 1: the Celestia stone is being combined with the grouper biotics

1224
01:17:04,080 --> 01:17:06,320
Speaker 1: sense and we have to go and then like literally

1225
01:17:06,320 --> 01:17:12,840
Speaker 1: you'll cut to a raccoon exactly like right, yeah, yeah, yeah,

1226
01:17:13,680 --> 01:17:17,000
Speaker 1: And I am grout. Okay, wait I am. I am Guardians.

1227
01:17:17,479 --> 01:17:21,640
Speaker 1: I hate Guardians and Boone and I famously out of

1228
01:17:21,680 --> 01:17:24,800
Speaker 1: Guardians of the Galaxy of Volume one because if I

1229
01:17:24,840 --> 01:17:26,960
Speaker 1: had to hear that tree, so I am grout one

1230
01:17:26,960 --> 01:17:28,720
Speaker 1: more time and people will be like, oh my god,

1231
01:17:28,720 --> 01:17:30,800
Speaker 1: that is so funny. He is grouting, it's all he says.

1232
01:17:31,040 --> 01:17:34,479
Speaker 1: That is so stupid. I mean, I am grout. The

1233
01:17:34,520 --> 01:17:36,080
Speaker 1: concept of I am grout is one of the most

1234
01:17:36,120 --> 01:17:39,719
Speaker 1: politically regressive things aesthetically that has ever happened in our culture.

1235
01:17:40,760 --> 01:17:43,080
Speaker 1: The fact that I am meant to find it funny

1236
01:17:43,120 --> 01:17:45,720
Speaker 1: that a tree says, I am grout not to be

1237
01:17:45,760 --> 01:17:51,360
Speaker 1: the automan, but Guardians is a slay and also and

1238
01:17:51,439 --> 01:17:53,799
Speaker 1: then I'll tell you but they're also trying what they're

1239
01:17:53,840 --> 01:17:56,760
Speaker 1: trying when they bring out like baby Grout because now

1240
01:17:56,840 --> 01:17:59,800
Speaker 1: there's this thing of like, oh, we're re energizing because

1241
01:17:59,840 --> 01:18:02,599
Speaker 1: I'm thing is a baby now like baby Yoda. And

1242
01:18:02,600 --> 01:18:06,000
Speaker 1: it worked with baby Yoda because it's so baby Groot

1243
01:18:08,160 --> 01:18:12,480
Speaker 1: because something is a baby now. Her name is Groa

1244
01:18:12,680 --> 01:18:16,320
Speaker 1: her name, and she Grog is the cutest thing that's

1245
01:18:16,360 --> 01:18:20,240
Speaker 1: ever been made. And ever it is a triumph of artistry,

1246
01:18:20,240 --> 01:18:26,479
Speaker 1: of puppetry of cinema is so powerful. Figure you everyone

1247
01:18:26,560 --> 01:18:31,000
Speaker 1: needs everyone needs a baby grow g Everyone needs one,

1248
01:18:31,040 --> 01:18:34,879
Speaker 1: Like honestly, it's there. It's amazing to bring on a vacation.

1249
01:18:34,960 --> 01:18:38,439
Speaker 1: You can dress them up like baby Yoda slash grow

1250
01:18:38,479 --> 01:18:40,880
Speaker 1: Gou is something that like I would love, like I

1251
01:18:40,920 --> 01:18:43,439
Speaker 1: would like to tell my past self about, like I'd

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01:18:43,439 --> 01:18:46,360
Speaker 1: be like, hold on, baby, because in a few years

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01:18:46,439 --> 01:18:50,560
Speaker 1: there's gonna be a baby Yoda and you're gonna love it. Yeah, earnestly,

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01:18:50,600 --> 01:18:53,439
Speaker 1: I'm so happy that baby Yoda exists. I really am

1255
01:18:53,560 --> 01:18:57,519
Speaker 1: I it's so important. Yeah, I think baby Yoda, we

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01:18:57,560 --> 01:19:00,880
Speaker 1: haven't really seen this type of um like sort of

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01:19:01,600 --> 01:19:06,280
Speaker 1: fantasia around like a toy since tickled me almost and

1258
01:19:06,400 --> 01:19:08,400
Speaker 1: this one and this one wasn't going to kill you

1259
01:19:08,840 --> 01:19:11,840
Speaker 1: pick memo was killing people? Say that, oh, given seas

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01:19:12,080 --> 01:19:20,200
Speaker 1: to all the kids. And then the parent said the kids,

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01:19:21,280 --> 01:19:27,840
Speaker 1: So I guess that's normal. Now I would go, well,

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01:19:28,520 --> 01:19:35,360
Speaker 1: five dollars later, need five dollars later, and my kid

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01:19:35,439 --> 01:19:40,920
Speaker 1: is dead. I need a drink. I need a cocktail. Honey,

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01:19:40,920 --> 01:19:45,320
Speaker 1: where's the bar. That's another like like that. Honey, where's

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01:19:45,360 --> 01:19:52,840
Speaker 1: the bar? Huh? Where's the bar? I don't need a

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01:19:52,840 --> 01:19:56,760
Speaker 1: cocktail yesterday? Oh? I mean we need to leave it.

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01:19:56,840 --> 01:20:00,360
Speaker 1: We need to leave this planet yesterday. Yes, I love that.

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01:20:00,520 --> 01:20:03,320
Speaker 1: I love those types of people. They're they're fun to me. Wine.

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01:20:03,920 --> 01:20:06,880
Speaker 1: But George, what are you thinking about? George thought? No,

1270
01:20:07,120 --> 01:20:10,719
Speaker 1: you're like so, I truly am just. I would say,

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01:20:10,800 --> 01:20:13,920
Speaker 1: I would say intellectually, the things that have been put

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01:20:13,960 --> 01:20:16,360
Speaker 1: into my brain throughout this recording are making it about

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01:20:16,400 --> 01:20:20,240
Speaker 1: to burst. You're exhausted. It's been very stimulating. This is

1274
01:20:20,439 --> 01:20:23,280
Speaker 1: I'm sorry to say. Everyone is making such good points,

1275
01:20:23,400 --> 01:20:26,559
Speaker 1: and I and I and I feel this almost coked

1276
01:20:26,560 --> 01:20:29,280
Speaker 1: out energy of having me sip up. No no, no,

1277
01:20:29,280 --> 01:20:30,639
Speaker 1: we we we can slow it down, we can pump

1278
01:20:30,640 --> 01:20:34,800
Speaker 1: the brain. I mean no, no, no no, no, please, I

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01:20:34,880 --> 01:20:39,880
Speaker 1: know what I'm doing. Oh, trust me. Intellectual intellectual intellectual

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01:20:39,960 --> 01:20:47,760
Speaker 1: rigor is his wine. Don't talk to me until I've

1281
01:20:47,760 --> 01:20:51,680
Speaker 1: had my intellectual rigor. Honey, where's the library? That's what

1282
01:20:51,680 --> 01:20:54,640
Speaker 1: George is saying. I've actually been dying for an ic

1283
01:20:54,760 --> 01:20:57,400
Speaker 1: coffee this whole time, and now it's like three, but

1284
01:20:57,439 --> 01:21:01,080
Speaker 1: I slept until literally, so this still my morning. What

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01:21:01,120 --> 01:21:02,880
Speaker 1: do I do? I asked my I just want to

1286
01:21:02,920 --> 01:21:08,120
Speaker 1: say your morning can look like anything. Yeah, And honestly,

1287
01:21:08,160 --> 01:21:09,800
Speaker 1: at night coffee is one of those beautiful things you

1288
01:21:09,840 --> 01:21:14,200
Speaker 1: can get. I actually love a night coffee. Um, should

1289
01:21:14,200 --> 01:21:17,200
Speaker 1: we wait? I think we have to do our final segment,

1290
01:21:17,240 --> 01:21:20,639
Speaker 1: which is actually crazy because we have another recording. Actually,

1291
01:21:20,760 --> 01:21:23,080
Speaker 1: who are you recording with next? Wouldn't you like to know?

1292
01:21:23,880 --> 01:21:27,280
Speaker 1: You told us yesterday who it was? Shut up? I forgot,

1293
01:21:27,400 --> 01:21:31,840
Speaker 1: but I forgot. It's someone I really like. It's someone

1294
01:21:31,840 --> 01:21:36,080
Speaker 1: you both really like. Someone that will UM believe? Have

1295
01:21:36,240 --> 01:21:44,839
Speaker 1: you believe in? Gagging is the future Whitney Whitney Whitney

1296
01:21:45,960 --> 01:21:50,120
Speaker 1: gag with somebody. I want to people the sight with

1297
01:21:50,240 --> 01:22:00,360
Speaker 1: somebody just coming on the pot. You put that out

1298
01:22:00,000 --> 01:22:07,000
Speaker 1: it was toxic. We're gonna dub that, um happen. No,

1299
01:22:07,160 --> 01:22:11,360
Speaker 1: that's that's Deadpool humor, which is talk about toxic, which

1300
01:22:11,400 --> 01:22:14,640
Speaker 1: is where random meets cruelty. We're actually just actually we're

1301
01:22:14,640 --> 01:22:17,599
Speaker 1: gonna just bleep the name that Matt said so that

1302
01:22:17,640 --> 01:22:21,599
Speaker 1: we can witness the aftermath while not offending anyone. Can

1303
01:22:21,640 --> 01:22:25,880
Speaker 1: I tell you, guys, one more one more awkward thing? Yes, yes, Okay,

1304
01:22:26,040 --> 01:22:29,599
Speaker 1: So this is the secondhand story. But um, from one

1305
01:22:29,600 --> 01:22:32,479
Speaker 1: of the movers at my when I used to work

1306
01:22:32,520 --> 01:22:34,639
Speaker 1: as a mover, there was this guy who loved, like

1307
01:22:34,880 --> 01:22:38,000
Speaker 1: got all of his humor from sort of internet culture

1308
01:22:38,400 --> 01:22:40,880
Speaker 1: and it was really bad. But he was talking to

1309
01:22:41,000 --> 01:22:44,000
Speaker 1: the client and he was talking about how like this

1310
01:22:44,080 --> 01:22:46,240
Speaker 1: couch was gonna like be kind of difficult to get

1311
01:22:46,280 --> 01:22:48,200
Speaker 1: into the hallway and it was going to fit awkwardly.

1312
01:22:48,640 --> 01:22:50,839
Speaker 1: And he was like, yeah, it's gonna be pretty awkward,

1313
01:22:51,120 --> 01:22:57,080
Speaker 1: like Deadpool meeting Deadpool. Oh no, I like that premise.

1314
01:22:58,320 --> 01:23:05,000
Speaker 1: I like that. I don't like how hot. Yeah, I

1315
01:23:07,760 --> 01:23:11,519
Speaker 1: actually hate every single part. I'm trying to find something

1316
01:23:11,560 --> 01:23:13,960
Speaker 1: to like about it because he seems nice and well,

1317
01:23:13,960 --> 01:23:16,280
Speaker 1: here's what I like about it. I like the effort.

1318
01:23:16,360 --> 01:23:18,360
Speaker 1: I like that he wrote it. That was a pre

1319
01:23:18,400 --> 01:23:21,080
Speaker 1: written joke. He was on his way, you know, he

1320
01:23:21,120 --> 01:23:22,639
Speaker 1: woke up in the morning and was like, you know what,

1321
01:23:23,320 --> 01:23:27,080
Speaker 1: if if nothing else today, I am going to land

1322
01:23:27,320 --> 01:23:30,559
Speaker 1: this joke. And here we are talking about it. And

1323
01:23:30,600 --> 01:23:34,879
Speaker 1: in some ways he did, Hey, well behaved. Um movers

1324
01:23:34,960 --> 01:23:37,880
Speaker 1: rarely make history, and he made a splash that day.

1325
01:23:37,920 --> 01:23:39,760
Speaker 1: And love him or hate him, it's still an obsession.

1326
01:23:40,240 --> 01:23:43,080
Speaker 1: You know, I'm going to reference that reference humor. Here

1327
01:23:43,080 --> 01:23:47,720
Speaker 1: we go. Um, okay, let's do our final segment. All right,

1328
01:23:47,760 --> 01:23:49,960
Speaker 1: what's the Let's do the final segment. It's my favorite

1329
01:23:50,000 --> 01:23:52,760
Speaker 1: segment in podcasting history. Our final segment shout outs, and

1330
01:23:52,800 --> 01:23:54,559
Speaker 1: then we give a shout out to anything that we enjoy,

1331
01:23:54,640 --> 01:23:56,519
Speaker 1: sort of in the classic style of imagine. It's who

1332
01:23:56,560 --> 01:23:58,040
Speaker 1: hasn't Want And you're at t r L in Times

1333
01:23:58,040 --> 01:24:00,559
Speaker 1: Scores shouting out to your squad back home, anything that

1334
01:24:00,640 --> 01:24:02,760
Speaker 1: you like, give it a shout out. George, do you

1335
01:24:02,800 --> 01:24:05,960
Speaker 1: have one? I could like really wing it. It's actually

1336
01:24:06,280 --> 01:24:08,800
Speaker 1: I just want to say it is by design that

1337
01:24:08,840 --> 01:24:10,400
Speaker 1: we don't think of the as ahead of time, because

1338
01:24:10,439 --> 01:24:12,720
Speaker 1: otherwise they wouldn't be spontaneous. So no one can be

1339
01:24:12,760 --> 01:24:14,960
Speaker 1: mad at us that we quote unquote had two months

1340
01:24:14,960 --> 01:24:18,400
Speaker 1: to prepare for the quote unquote first episode of the season. Yeah,

1341
01:24:18,640 --> 01:24:20,839
Speaker 1: but here's I'm going to do one that is actually

1342
01:24:20,920 --> 01:24:23,000
Speaker 1: so basic that it is a commentary on being basic.

1343
01:24:23,160 --> 01:24:29,639
Speaker 1: Everyone ready, Yeah, what's up, listeners, and welcome the season

1344
01:24:29,680 --> 01:24:31,040
Speaker 1: three of the pod. I want to give a quick

1345
01:24:31,040 --> 01:24:35,040
Speaker 1: shout out to soaking beans. This is something that feels

1346
01:24:35,240 --> 01:24:39,800
Speaker 1: very you. You might say feels very uten or maybe

1347
01:24:39,840 --> 01:24:43,320
Speaker 1: twenty sixteen or seventeen. It's something people you know, it's

1348
01:24:43,320 --> 01:24:46,599
Speaker 1: something you read the Alison Roman newsletter. Let's say, and

1349
01:24:46,600 --> 01:24:48,960
Speaker 1: and she says and she and she kind of makes

1350
01:24:49,000 --> 01:24:50,960
Speaker 1: it a thing of like don't yell at me, I

1351
01:24:51,040 --> 01:24:54,599
Speaker 1: don't soak beans. Sorry, And then you're like, oh, interesting.

1352
01:24:54,600 --> 01:24:56,800
Speaker 1: I guess our debates happening about these and parts of

1353
01:24:56,840 --> 01:25:00,479
Speaker 1: the internet where people don't have to worry about other topics.

1354
01:25:00,960 --> 01:25:04,000
Speaker 1: But here's what I will tell you, listener, is that

1355
01:25:04,040 --> 01:25:05,920
Speaker 1: I just soaked beans for the first time, made them

1356
01:25:05,960 --> 01:25:09,320
Speaker 1: the other week, and guess what the girl is all right,

1357
01:25:10,360 --> 01:25:13,040
Speaker 1: I have never had a creamier line of bean in

1358
01:25:13,080 --> 01:25:17,120
Speaker 1: my life. I made a completely improvised white beans salad

1359
01:25:17,240 --> 01:25:21,000
Speaker 1: and had it for lunch. We're talking corn, we're talking aboutvocado,

1360
01:25:21,360 --> 01:25:25,160
Speaker 1: we are talking uh feta, and we were talking personally

1361
01:25:25,200 --> 01:25:27,760
Speaker 1: and a lemon dressing, and none of that will be

1362
01:25:27,800 --> 01:25:31,880
Speaker 1: possible without a little thing called soaking beans. And it's

1363
01:25:31,920 --> 01:25:34,800
Speaker 1: just shout out to Allison Roman and I wish for

1364
01:25:34,880 --> 01:25:43,200
Speaker 1: the best. Allison is back. She's been back, She's been back,

1365
01:25:43,560 --> 01:25:48,520
Speaker 1: Alison Ben Roman that what I just did is a reference.

1366
01:25:48,880 --> 01:25:52,360
Speaker 1: It's like referenced humorference. We actually are guilty of both

1367
01:25:52,439 --> 01:25:58,080
Speaker 1: random and reference humor. And everyone is everyone no one,

1368
01:25:58,400 --> 01:26:01,799
Speaker 1: no one is making humor to vacuum all the course

1369
01:26:03,080 --> 01:26:06,479
Speaker 1: of course, so making humor? So what what the funk

1370
01:26:06,479 --> 01:26:11,680
Speaker 1: am I saying? Making? Hey? Okay, okay, okay, okay, hold on,

1371
01:26:11,760 --> 01:26:20,000
Speaker 1: hold on, hold on um, I've got one somewhere. Let's see, Okay,

1372
01:26:20,080 --> 01:26:26,040
Speaker 1: I've got it. What's up, freaks, losers and perverts across

1373
01:26:26,120 --> 01:26:29,240
Speaker 1: the globe? I love you and I see you. I

1374
01:26:29,280 --> 01:26:31,960
Speaker 1: would like to give a shout out to the man

1375
01:26:32,120 --> 01:26:35,839
Speaker 1: selling water outside of the CHROMATICA concert last night, because

1376
01:26:36,000 --> 01:26:38,480
Speaker 1: when I got out of that concert. I was overjoyed

1377
01:26:38,560 --> 01:26:42,280
Speaker 1: with joy, but I was feeling parched with water and

1378
01:26:42,360 --> 01:26:45,559
Speaker 1: I was dying, and I said, if someone why is

1379
01:26:45,880 --> 01:26:48,080
Speaker 1: I thought this was a capitalist nation, Why is no

1380
01:26:48,120 --> 01:26:51,800
Speaker 1: one selling water? I'm willing to pay upwards of ten

1381
01:26:51,880 --> 01:26:56,440
Speaker 1: dollars for a bottle of damn water because I am thirsty.

1382
01:26:56,520 --> 01:26:59,799
Speaker 1: And then comes this man who, yeah, it was probably

1383
01:26:59,800 --> 01:27:02,720
Speaker 1: going against the government and probably not licensed. I hope

1384
01:27:02,760 --> 01:27:07,160
Speaker 1: that's okay with everyone. Sometimes I support unlicensed vendors. And

1385
01:27:07,200 --> 01:27:09,479
Speaker 1: he said, I will give you this water bottle for

1386
01:27:09,520 --> 01:27:13,120
Speaker 1: four dollars, and I said I will pay that, and

1387
01:27:13,200 --> 01:27:15,280
Speaker 1: I drank it and I wish I had gotten to

1388
01:27:15,760 --> 01:27:18,800
Speaker 1: because I was so fucking thirsty and getting out of

1389
01:27:18,840 --> 01:27:22,639
Speaker 1: that stadium was a nightmare. I think I will maybe

1390
01:27:22,680 --> 01:27:26,120
Speaker 1: never go to that location again, unless I, of course,

1391
01:27:26,240 --> 01:27:30,920
Speaker 1: have to to see my girl Stephanie Germanata, who I

1392
01:27:31,000 --> 01:27:34,720
Speaker 1: do still stand and I hope to one day be

1393
01:27:35,280 --> 01:27:38,679
Speaker 1: um dead as mentally ill as I was in twenty

1394
01:27:38,720 --> 01:27:40,880
Speaker 1: twenty to fall in love with her next album, just

1395
01:27:40,960 --> 01:27:43,599
Speaker 1: as hard as I fell in love with Romatica. I

1396
01:27:43,680 --> 01:27:49,519
Speaker 1: Love America. Wow. I did not expect it to end

1397
01:27:49,520 --> 01:27:54,160
Speaker 1: on I Love America. That was that was a random

1398
01:27:54,400 --> 01:27:57,360
Speaker 1: left turn with it. Here's what I will say, unlicensed

1399
01:27:57,439 --> 01:28:00,479
Speaker 1: vendors are. In fact, I actually am going of bang

1400
01:28:00,560 --> 01:28:06,160
Speaker 1: pots and pans every day to unlicensed vendors. Yeah, I

1401
01:28:06,200 --> 01:28:08,920
Speaker 1: agree with that. There are some of our nation's greatest heroes,

1402
01:28:09,840 --> 01:28:12,439
Speaker 1: and Andrew Yane tried to come for them, the Truro people.

1403
01:28:13,360 --> 01:28:15,519
Speaker 1: How dare he? How dare he? Wish I could slap

1404
01:28:15,560 --> 01:28:17,439
Speaker 1: him across the face of the Turro. He's one of

1405
01:28:17,479 --> 01:28:21,200
Speaker 1: America's worst people. Act. Yeah, I have to agree. Okay,

1406
01:28:21,200 --> 01:28:23,719
Speaker 1: who wants to go next? I'll go. I have something

1407
01:28:23,720 --> 01:28:27,920
Speaker 1: I can go. Okay, Yeah, it's it's a it's it's

1408
01:28:27,920 --> 01:28:30,160
Speaker 1: a fun one as as as these all have been.

1409
01:28:30,880 --> 01:28:40,360
Speaker 1: And I wasn't questioning until you said that awkward. Hey, hey, hey, um,

1410
01:28:40,400 --> 01:28:43,679
Speaker 1: what's happening? That's the line from one of my favorite

1411
01:28:43,680 --> 01:28:48,840
Speaker 1: singers and Missy Elliott. But that's not my shout out singer. Famously,

1412
01:28:49,040 --> 01:28:51,880
Speaker 1: I wanted to shout out the entire cast and crew

1413
01:28:52,240 --> 01:28:55,920
Speaker 1: up into the Woods on Broadway. I saw this show

1414
01:28:55,960 --> 01:28:59,120
Speaker 1: on Wednesday night with our good friend Matt Whittaker. I'm

1415
01:28:59,120 --> 01:29:02,000
Speaker 1: so sorry, Patrick, there's another good friend of ours. Um,

1416
01:29:02,040 --> 01:29:04,280
Speaker 1: I'm going with Matt. Yes, Matt's going with Matt Whittaker.

1417
01:29:04,479 --> 01:29:07,200
Speaker 1: But I saw this production. Um. You know my favorite

1418
01:29:07,240 --> 01:29:10,440
Speaker 1: Sondheim show, the first Sonheim show I saw on videotape,

1419
01:29:10,479 --> 01:29:13,919
Speaker 1: the Burgend of Peter's version of the original Broadway run. Um,

1420
01:29:14,280 --> 01:29:16,920
Speaker 1: very formative culture for me. I didn't realize. And you

1421
01:29:16,960 --> 01:29:19,200
Speaker 1: know what, shout out to Celestium for sharing with me

1422
01:29:19,439 --> 01:29:23,080
Speaker 1: this beautiful piece of wisdom that the most politically important

1423
01:29:23,120 --> 01:29:28,000
Speaker 1: and impactful art is children's books and anything having to

1424
01:29:28,040 --> 01:29:30,599
Speaker 1: do with children's stories. Because you know what, my favorite

1425
01:29:30,600 --> 01:29:33,000
Speaker 1: thing about Into the Woods is that to show about impact,

1426
01:29:33,040 --> 01:29:37,880
Speaker 1: and that's why it's impactful. Sarah barellis Um, Brian Darcy, James,

1427
01:29:37,920 --> 01:29:40,680
Speaker 1: Katina Miller, Philip stood, gabbing creole. Julia Lester was a

1428
01:29:40,720 --> 01:29:43,759
Speaker 1: great little red um. Any Golden Hoo could forget punk

1429
01:29:43,840 --> 01:29:47,000
Speaker 1: legend and Broadway legend and the golden The mute Lady

1430
01:29:47,000 --> 01:29:48,920
Speaker 1: on Orange is the New Black, which he opens her

1431
01:29:48,960 --> 01:29:51,880
Speaker 1: Mountain sings You're happy, and you go why they make

1432
01:29:51,880 --> 01:29:57,559
Speaker 1: her mute? I loved it by I loved all the

1433
01:29:57,600 --> 01:29:59,640
Speaker 1: listening of the names. I felt like I was like

1434
01:29:59,680 --> 01:30:02,479
Speaker 1: ready for sort of Oscar's playoff music to start. I

1435
01:30:02,479 --> 01:30:04,840
Speaker 1: thought that could have been a saying yeah as someone

1436
01:30:04,840 --> 01:30:07,479
Speaker 1: who's also seen it and is going again because it

1437
01:30:07,560 --> 01:30:10,120
Speaker 1: was just that fabulous. I have to concur with every

1438
01:30:10,160 --> 01:30:13,040
Speaker 1: word that my sister has just said. It's really excellent.

1439
01:30:13,080 --> 01:30:16,160
Speaker 1: It's one of my favorite theater experiences I've had. Do

1440
01:30:16,240 --> 01:30:19,800
Speaker 1: you think Here's my question. I went when Gavin Creole

1441
01:30:19,880 --> 01:30:23,800
Speaker 1: was in fact unavailable and his understudy filled in. Oh,

1442
01:30:23,960 --> 01:30:26,479
Speaker 1: you didn't even see Cheyenne. I didn't even see Cheyenne.

1443
01:30:26,520 --> 01:30:28,479
Speaker 1: But luckily on like some people on the Zoom, I

1444
01:30:28,479 --> 01:30:32,960
Speaker 1: did see Sarah Barrells. I literally went to the show

1445
01:30:33,040 --> 01:30:35,960
Speaker 1: and Sarah was sick, and I literally I looked at

1446
01:30:35,960 --> 01:30:38,080
Speaker 1: my playbill and saw the role of the Baker's wife

1447
01:30:38,080 --> 01:30:40,799
Speaker 1: will be porprayed by someone else, and I almost asked

1448
01:30:40,960 --> 01:30:44,559
Speaker 1: for I literally, but I screenshot it. I screenshoted your

1449
01:30:44,600 --> 01:30:46,519
Speaker 1: story and send it to Matthew and I was like,

1450
01:30:46,960 --> 01:30:50,479
Speaker 1: this could not happen to a less deserving person. This

1451
01:30:50,520 --> 01:30:52,920
Speaker 1: is like, specifically, for that to happen to you. For

1452
01:30:52,960 --> 01:30:56,120
Speaker 1: that to happen to Matt was really hard. And I'm

1453
01:30:56,120 --> 01:30:58,639
Speaker 1: going again on on the twenty three, and I'm I'm

1454
01:30:58,680 --> 01:31:00,400
Speaker 1: Matt Wicker and I are going and you've seen it.

1455
01:31:00,479 --> 01:31:05,800
Speaker 1: I think and so that that that's a testament um

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01:31:05,880 --> 01:31:07,960
Speaker 1: and Bowen Yang and I are also going to Celia

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Speaker 1: Michelle and Funny Girl. I need to get but it's

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Speaker 1: gonna be difficult. I'm ready go for it. Take it away.

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Speaker 1: What's up everybody? This is your boy, Matt Rodgers, third

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01:31:21,360 --> 01:31:23,439
Speaker 1: time on Tradio. I'm very happy to be here. Thank

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Speaker 1: you to the host for having me once again. I

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01:31:25,040 --> 01:31:26,680
Speaker 1: want to give a quick shout out to desk o

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Speaker 1: vie for prep. It allows you not to use condoms,

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01:31:29,360 --> 01:31:32,719
Speaker 1: because condoms fucking suck. Who wants to use a condom?

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01:31:32,760 --> 01:31:34,640
Speaker 1: It's a whole thing. It's an awkward random oh when

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01:31:34,680 --> 01:31:36,960
Speaker 1: you're trying to get it on. Honestly, for me, I

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01:31:37,080 --> 01:31:40,120
Speaker 1: just rather stick it in raw, un protected, bareback, if

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01:31:40,160 --> 01:31:42,960
Speaker 1: you will. I love raw. I'm prepeted bareback sex and

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01:31:43,120 --> 01:31:46,519
Speaker 1: being come inside of myself and coming in other people.

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01:31:46,760 --> 01:31:48,800
Speaker 1: Desk o vie for prep allows it to happen. Yes,

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01:31:48,800 --> 01:31:51,160
Speaker 1: I'm running the risk of getting other scis always, but

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Speaker 1: that doesn't really matter when I'm having it a great time.

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Speaker 1: So thank you doctors, thank you physicians, thank you people

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01:31:57,360 --> 01:32:00,439
Speaker 1: in the lab, scientists, et cetera. Thank you to everyone

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01:32:00,479 --> 01:32:03,040
Speaker 1: that's made this possible. Shout out to you desk, all

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01:32:03,080 --> 01:32:07,519
Speaker 1: of you for prepare your prescription right now. So that

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01:32:07,760 --> 01:32:12,599
Speaker 1: just happened, So not just stand big pharma. That just

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01:32:15,520 --> 01:32:18,040
Speaker 1: Matt just talked about sucking. Did anyone else hear that?

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01:32:21,600 --> 01:32:24,040
Speaker 1: So I guess we're talking about fucking now? So we're

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Speaker 1: a sex podcast. Okay, all right, you're welcome. Um, I

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01:32:29,200 --> 01:32:37,360
Speaker 1: gotta made you all relevant. I guess I'll see myself out. Um, okay, okay,

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Speaker 1: I'm nothing else. You know who is a master of

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01:32:42,360 --> 01:32:47,920
Speaker 1: the meta humor of awkwardness and randomness is Mixtalter. Yeah,

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01:32:47,960 --> 01:32:52,080
Speaker 1: Meg has mastered it. I was also thinking of Patty

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01:32:52,120 --> 01:32:56,080
Speaker 1: in conversation Patty Harrison. Oh yeah, we'll respond to many

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Speaker 1: things as as as fake as eleve eted awkward as

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Speaker 1: I would ko awkward. Well, um, well, thank you for

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01:33:06,600 --> 01:33:09,639
Speaker 1: being here to kick off our third season. It's so

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01:33:09,640 --> 01:33:12,320
Speaker 1: special to have you guys on our first app. It

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01:33:12,400 --> 01:33:14,920
Speaker 1: really means a lot. That really isn't That really is

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01:33:14,960 --> 01:33:17,160
Speaker 1: an honor And I just want to say for us

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Speaker 1: as well, And can I just say congratulations on what

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01:33:20,720 --> 01:33:23,320
Speaker 1: I know is a big deal. It's a big deal.

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01:33:23,360 --> 01:33:26,880
Speaker 1: About you sign and I just want to say I'll

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01:33:26,920 --> 01:33:33,960
Speaker 1: always remember us this way. Oh you got when you

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01:33:34,160 --> 01:33:40,559
Speaker 1: lock at meum and the whole let not sing us off. Yeah,

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01:33:40,560 --> 01:33:47,720
Speaker 1: I mean okay, Matt, you can sing ways. Remember it's

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Speaker 1: a way, good night, bye egg brown gay. That'll happen

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Speaker 1: back back back baa baa food bas