1 00:00:01,960 --> 00:00:04,160 Speaker 1: George. I'm a homegirl that knows a little bit about 2 00:00:04,200 --> 00:00:07,640 Speaker 1: everything and everybody. You don't know if you don't lie about that, 3 00:00:07,720 --> 00:00:12,920 Speaker 1: right Lauren ca Hey, guys, it's Lauren la Rosa and 4 00:00:13,000 --> 00:00:16,640 Speaker 1: this is another episode of the Latest with Lauren l Rosa. 5 00:00:16,680 --> 00:00:19,680 Speaker 1: I'm your homegirl that knows a bit about everything and everybody. 6 00:00:20,160 --> 00:00:23,480 Speaker 1: And this is Yelly Dig on all things pop culture, entertainment, 7 00:00:23,520 --> 00:00:28,280 Speaker 1: news and the conversations that shake the room. Lowriders, you know, 8 00:00:28,440 --> 00:00:31,400 Speaker 1: I'm your host. I'm Laura la Rosa and checking in 9 00:00:31,520 --> 00:00:38,400 Speaker 1: behind the scenes of the Grime. Today. I am feeling productive. 10 00:00:38,520 --> 00:00:42,400 Speaker 1: I'm getting a lot done today. It is midweek, you 11 00:00:42,440 --> 00:00:49,640 Speaker 1: guys know, heading into a holiday Juneteenth, there's always anticipation 12 00:00:49,760 --> 00:00:52,320 Speaker 1: because you don't have to work, You get to, you know, 13 00:00:52,360 --> 00:00:54,520 Speaker 1: spend time with your family, spend time doing things that 14 00:00:54,560 --> 00:00:57,120 Speaker 1: you typically don't have time to do during the week. 15 00:00:57,640 --> 00:01:00,560 Speaker 1: So for me, I was like, Okay, being at this 16 00:01:00,640 --> 00:01:03,200 Speaker 1: holiday is in the middle of the week. I want 17 00:01:03,240 --> 00:01:05,120 Speaker 1: to try and get as much done as I can 18 00:01:05,240 --> 00:01:07,280 Speaker 1: prior to the holiday so I can actually spend the 19 00:01:07,319 --> 00:01:10,880 Speaker 1: holiday like a holiday. Yes, y'all know me. So I 20 00:01:10,920 --> 00:01:13,840 Speaker 1: will still be working, we will still have podcasts, episodes, 21 00:01:13,880 --> 00:01:17,640 Speaker 1: all the things right, but the full bulk of feeling 22 00:01:17,720 --> 00:01:22,120 Speaker 1: like my day is dedicated so much to other people 23 00:01:22,200 --> 00:01:24,240 Speaker 1: and work, work, work, work, work, work, work is not 24 00:01:24,280 --> 00:01:26,319 Speaker 1: what I want to be doing on Juneteenth. I want 25 00:01:26,360 --> 00:01:29,720 Speaker 1: to be celebrating, you know, being black, being you know, 26 00:01:29,840 --> 00:01:35,520 Speaker 1: all things black, girl, You know what I mean. Just honestly, 27 00:01:35,520 --> 00:01:40,240 Speaker 1: it's taking the time to just decompress and celebrate. Like 28 00:01:40,319 --> 00:01:45,280 Speaker 1: Juneteenth has become such a holiday since the world decided 29 00:01:45,319 --> 00:01:47,720 Speaker 1: to act like black people are the shit, because we 30 00:01:47,800 --> 00:01:50,000 Speaker 1: have been and y'all not don't customer podcast, but I 31 00:01:50,040 --> 00:01:53,600 Speaker 1: feel that Customer it was necessary, but it has become 32 00:01:53,640 --> 00:01:55,640 Speaker 1: such a holiday. When I was living in LA every 33 00:01:55,720 --> 00:01:59,320 Speaker 1: year for Juneteenth, we would go to the huge black 34 00:01:59,360 --> 00:02:04,560 Speaker 1: party barbeque that they do in LA but in Englewood. 35 00:02:05,360 --> 00:02:07,920 Speaker 1: But since being in New York, I feel like I 36 00:02:07,960 --> 00:02:11,640 Speaker 1: haven't had the chance to actually celebrate Juneteenth, which I 37 00:02:11,680 --> 00:02:13,880 Speaker 1: really tried to prioritize to do because it just feels good, 38 00:02:14,200 --> 00:02:17,680 Speaker 1: you outside, you with your people. You got the music plan. 39 00:02:18,080 --> 00:02:20,200 Speaker 1: For some reason, every time I think about Juneteenth, I 40 00:02:20,240 --> 00:02:23,519 Speaker 1: think about the song Sounds of Uh, Sounds of Blackness. 41 00:02:24,000 --> 00:02:27,240 Speaker 1: The as long as you key that song y'all know 42 00:02:27,240 --> 00:02:28,840 Speaker 1: that song. Hopefully y'all know that song. If you do 43 00:02:28,880 --> 00:02:31,080 Speaker 1: not know that song, let me look it up. I 44 00:02:31,080 --> 00:02:33,040 Speaker 1: want y'all to know that song because that is my 45 00:02:33,240 --> 00:02:36,360 Speaker 1: June teenth themed song. And I don't know if that's 46 00:02:36,400 --> 00:02:40,920 Speaker 1: like very cliche, I honestly don't care, because that is 47 00:02:40,960 --> 00:02:44,040 Speaker 1: my song. That is my go to for Juneteenth. What 48 00:02:44,160 --> 00:02:50,919 Speaker 1: is it's called? Oh? Yes, it's Sounds of Blackness by Optimistic. Yes, 49 00:02:51,040 --> 00:02:56,040 Speaker 1: Sounds of Blackness by Optimistic is my Juneteenth go to song. 50 00:02:56,240 --> 00:02:59,160 Speaker 1: That end I'm Black, y'all. I'm black, y'all, and you 51 00:02:59,320 --> 00:03:02,040 Speaker 1: just wake up, you go to the cookout, see everywhere 52 00:03:02,040 --> 00:03:04,080 Speaker 1: you go. It's just I mean, every day it's a 53 00:03:04,080 --> 00:03:06,400 Speaker 1: celebration of being who you are and being black. But Juneteenth, 54 00:03:06,480 --> 00:03:08,440 Speaker 1: it just feels like the whole world is stopping to 55 00:03:08,480 --> 00:03:11,800 Speaker 1: do it. So I've been getting a lot of things done, 56 00:03:12,639 --> 00:03:15,080 Speaker 1: been very disciplined about getting things done by a certain time, 57 00:03:15,600 --> 00:03:19,240 Speaker 1: getting my sleeping, being prepared for all the things. So 58 00:03:19,360 --> 00:03:22,960 Speaker 1: I'm feeling good. If you guys cannot tell, I'm I 59 00:03:22,960 --> 00:03:25,639 Speaker 1: feel like I sound like things are organized and they're 60 00:03:25,680 --> 00:03:28,160 Speaker 1: flowing as well too. So I hope y'all are feeling 61 00:03:28,160 --> 00:03:31,920 Speaker 1: well out there as well, and y'all know, now we 62 00:03:32,080 --> 00:03:37,080 Speaker 1: got to get into the latest. So I saw this 63 00:03:37,200 --> 00:03:39,440 Speaker 1: story and I thought that it was really really interesting. 64 00:03:39,520 --> 00:03:42,280 Speaker 1: I honestly, I was like, man, I wish more people 65 00:03:42,280 --> 00:03:46,440 Speaker 1: were were, you know, diving into this conversation. So it's 66 00:03:46,480 --> 00:03:51,200 Speaker 1: been reported by US Weekly, The Grio in Essence magazine 67 00:03:51,520 --> 00:03:55,920 Speaker 1: that actress Jody Turner Smith has pinned a letter to 68 00:03:56,320 --> 00:03:59,200 Speaker 1: her ex husband Joshua Jackson, who was also an actor, 69 00:03:59,640 --> 00:04:02,360 Speaker 1: and this letter is a letter that comes in the 70 00:04:02,400 --> 00:04:05,760 Speaker 1: midst of their custody battle. Now, for those who are 71 00:04:05,760 --> 00:04:08,520 Speaker 1: not familiar with Jody Turnersmith, you guys will know her, 72 00:04:09,000 --> 00:04:14,160 Speaker 1: probably most notably from Queen Islim. Joshua Jackson also an actor. 73 00:04:14,720 --> 00:04:17,040 Speaker 1: I watched him in the affair, but I know a 74 00:04:17,080 --> 00:04:19,240 Speaker 1: lot of people will also know him from Dawson's Creek 75 00:04:19,480 --> 00:04:22,360 Speaker 1: as well Ani Mighty Ducks. So they were married, they 76 00:04:22,400 --> 00:04:24,719 Speaker 1: were married for some time. They actually got a divorce 77 00:04:25,120 --> 00:04:27,880 Speaker 1: and their divorce was finalized back in May of twenty 78 00:04:27,920 --> 00:04:31,719 Speaker 1: twenty five. But you know, their custody battle, their battle 79 00:04:31,960 --> 00:04:34,159 Speaker 1: in the midst of this, even though their divorce is finalized, 80 00:04:34,200 --> 00:04:37,560 Speaker 1: has been one that has made news headlines, which is 81 00:04:37,600 --> 00:04:40,960 Speaker 1: why I was so confused when I saw this letter 82 00:04:41,760 --> 00:04:43,680 Speaker 1: that didn't pick up. More not that I care that 83 00:04:43,680 --> 00:04:45,920 Speaker 1: it didn't pick up, because that's what I love about 84 00:04:45,920 --> 00:04:48,480 Speaker 1: the podcast is that we can dive into conversations that 85 00:04:48,880 --> 00:04:51,440 Speaker 1: other people might not be having. But I was just 86 00:04:51,520 --> 00:04:54,560 Speaker 1: very surprised because everything with their divorce has been so 87 00:04:54,760 --> 00:04:58,039 Speaker 1: like people pick it up like insanely, because that's how 88 00:04:58,080 --> 00:05:01,279 Speaker 1: it was about their relationship as well. Two. So she 89 00:05:02,200 --> 00:05:05,279 Speaker 1: following their divorce in May of twenty twenty five, it 90 00:05:05,360 --> 00:05:08,440 Speaker 1: was decided that their divorce would break down to Joshua 91 00:05:08,520 --> 00:05:11,760 Speaker 1: Jackson paying twenty seven hundred and eighty seven dollars a 92 00:05:11,839 --> 00:05:15,200 Speaker 1: month in child support, and then there was a lump 93 00:05:15,320 --> 00:05:17,799 Speaker 1: sum of spousal support that was paid out as well. 94 00:05:18,279 --> 00:05:22,800 Speaker 1: But within the last month, there's been reports of Joshua 95 00:05:22,880 --> 00:05:26,520 Speaker 1: Jackson and Jody Turner Smith going back and forth about 96 00:05:26,880 --> 00:05:30,440 Speaker 1: things like their daughter and their daughter is young. Their 97 00:05:30,520 --> 00:05:33,800 Speaker 1: daughter is five years old, well someplace to report she's four, 98 00:05:33,839 --> 00:05:36,600 Speaker 1: but someplace to report she's five, but she's young. Their 99 00:05:36,680 --> 00:05:39,599 Speaker 1: daughter is under nine years old, and they've been going 100 00:05:39,600 --> 00:05:41,160 Speaker 1: back and forth about where she's going to go to 101 00:05:41,240 --> 00:05:44,160 Speaker 1: school and just what custody looks like between the two 102 00:05:44,160 --> 00:05:47,599 Speaker 1: of them, because they're both really involved parents. So Jody 103 00:05:47,680 --> 00:05:52,159 Speaker 1: Smith Turner's letter is about the role of a mother 104 00:05:52,720 --> 00:05:56,279 Speaker 1: in a child's life, especially a girl, a young girl, 105 00:05:56,800 --> 00:05:59,240 Speaker 1: especially when you're dealing with two parents who are now separated. 106 00:05:59,480 --> 00:06:03,800 Speaker 1: More specific she's talking about the role of a black 107 00:06:03,880 --> 00:06:08,920 Speaker 1: mother in a biracial child's life. It's specially a biracial daughter. 108 00:06:10,000 --> 00:06:13,279 Speaker 1: So the letter starts, Hi, Josh, thank you for your message. 109 00:06:13,360 --> 00:06:16,719 Speaker 1: I appreciate your recognition of how fluid the production timeline 110 00:06:16,760 --> 00:06:20,640 Speaker 1: can be. Your willingness to accommodate the fluidity truly makes 111 00:06:20,680 --> 00:06:22,760 Speaker 1: a difference. And when she talks about production timeline, she's 112 00:06:22,800 --> 00:06:25,640 Speaker 1: talking about a show that she's shooting. So then she 113 00:06:25,720 --> 00:06:28,640 Speaker 1: goes on, I'm also so glad that we agree that 114 00:06:28,680 --> 00:06:31,960 Speaker 1: our share goals to provide Juno with as much stability, consistency, 115 00:06:31,960 --> 00:06:35,080 Speaker 1: and meaningful time with both of us as possible. I 116 00:06:35,200 --> 00:06:38,680 Speaker 1: hear and appreciate your point that that is ultimately her 117 00:06:38,720 --> 00:06:41,080 Speaker 1: time with each of us, and not the other way around. 118 00:06:41,680 --> 00:06:45,839 Speaker 1: The framing feels very important. This arrangement allows Juno to 119 00:06:45,960 --> 00:06:49,599 Speaker 1: enjoy a true sense of continuity and presence, something we 120 00:06:49,680 --> 00:06:52,800 Speaker 1: both value. She's excited about our travel plans, and I 121 00:06:52,839 --> 00:06:55,440 Speaker 1: believe this stretch of time will allow her to feel 122 00:06:55,440 --> 00:06:59,000 Speaker 1: deeply grounded and connected during a season that's naturally more 123 00:06:59,040 --> 00:07:02,719 Speaker 1: open and flexible. Now again, I mentioned that all of 124 00:07:02,760 --> 00:07:04,880 Speaker 1: this that's happening in the midst of them having these 125 00:07:04,960 --> 00:07:08,680 Speaker 1: like custody conversations, right and more recently, when it was 126 00:07:08,680 --> 00:07:11,280 Speaker 1: about a month ago when reports came out that they 127 00:07:11,320 --> 00:07:15,000 Speaker 1: were having issues over determining a schooling determination between the 128 00:07:15,000 --> 00:07:17,640 Speaker 1: two of them and then the custody. The conversation with 129 00:07:17,720 --> 00:07:20,720 Speaker 1: custody was about their daughter, Juno's summer schedule and like 130 00:07:20,720 --> 00:07:22,920 Speaker 1: where she would spend her time summer, how that time 131 00:07:23,000 --> 00:07:25,200 Speaker 1: would be broken down in what she would be doing. So, 132 00:07:25,560 --> 00:07:28,040 Speaker 1: Jody continues, I want to raise the subject as something 133 00:07:28,080 --> 00:07:30,760 Speaker 1: that has been weighing heavily on me, and it's grounded 134 00:07:30,840 --> 00:07:33,960 Speaker 1: not just an instinct or emotion, but in widely established research. 135 00:07:34,240 --> 00:07:36,840 Speaker 1: Before Juno was born, you and I spoke at length 136 00:07:36,960 --> 00:07:39,000 Speaker 1: about what she would need to grow into a strong, 137 00:07:39,160 --> 00:07:42,800 Speaker 1: self assured young person. Central to those conversations was the 138 00:07:42,840 --> 00:07:46,080 Speaker 1: importance of the maternal bond, and more specifically, the critical 139 00:07:46,160 --> 00:07:48,320 Speaker 1: role that being close to her black mother would play 140 00:07:48,360 --> 00:07:52,559 Speaker 1: in shaping her identity and self esteem. Research consistently shows 141 00:07:52,600 --> 00:07:56,160 Speaker 1: that for biracial children, particularly with a black mother, that 142 00:07:56,200 --> 00:08:00,600 Speaker 1: connection is not periphial. It is foundational. It plays a 143 00:08:00,720 --> 00:08:04,760 Speaker 1: vital role in identity formation, emotional resilience, in a long 144 00:08:04,840 --> 00:08:10,000 Speaker 1: term physical well being. These aren't abstract ideas, They've lived 145 00:08:10,160 --> 00:08:13,840 Speaker 1: daily realities that you know is already beginning to experience 146 00:08:13,920 --> 00:08:16,720 Speaker 1: in the consistency of our time together, especially when school 147 00:08:16,800 --> 00:08:19,360 Speaker 1: is out in their space for deeper connection is one 148 00:08:19,400 --> 00:08:21,800 Speaker 1: of the most effective ways to support her through them. 149 00:08:22,560 --> 00:08:25,640 Speaker 1: The vision we once shared hasn't changed, and it begins 150 00:08:25,640 --> 00:08:29,280 Speaker 1: here and ensuring that Juno is not only protected, but affirmed, 151 00:08:29,440 --> 00:08:32,800 Speaker 1: reflected and deeply rooted in who she is. So I 152 00:08:32,800 --> 00:08:35,160 Speaker 1: want to talk a bit before we get into you know, 153 00:08:35,320 --> 00:08:39,360 Speaker 1: just where you know, opinion on this letter and all 154 00:08:39,400 --> 00:08:41,160 Speaker 1: the things. I want to talk a bit about the 155 00:08:41,520 --> 00:08:46,480 Speaker 1: custody conversation that I brought up. So according to reports, 156 00:08:46,520 --> 00:08:48,480 Speaker 1: and actually TMC is the one who broke the story, 157 00:08:49,080 --> 00:08:53,280 Speaker 1: there were legal documents that were filed back in May 158 00:08:53,440 --> 00:08:55,440 Speaker 1: of twenty twenty five. It was actually May third, so 159 00:08:55,440 --> 00:08:58,560 Speaker 1: it was right before single de Maya of this year, 160 00:08:59,360 --> 00:09:04,720 Speaker 1: and in the Joshua and Joshua Jackson and Jody were 161 00:09:04,960 --> 00:09:08,160 Speaker 1: figuring out more of the divorce settlement, but specifically they 162 00:09:08,240 --> 00:09:09,839 Speaker 1: had to use a mediator to come up with a 163 00:09:09,880 --> 00:09:12,560 Speaker 1: temporary schedule to figure out what the fifty to fifty 164 00:09:12,600 --> 00:09:15,000 Speaker 1: custodyould look like with their daughter. Now here's what they 165 00:09:15,080 --> 00:09:17,719 Speaker 1: can't agree on. So they agreed where Juna is going 166 00:09:17,720 --> 00:09:19,960 Speaker 1: to go to school eventually, Like they got to that 167 00:09:20,040 --> 00:09:22,320 Speaker 1: agreement right, And that was a part of the reports 168 00:09:22,320 --> 00:09:23,360 Speaker 1: is that that was one of the things that they 169 00:09:23,400 --> 00:09:26,480 Speaker 1: could not figure out. So in this most recent filing 170 00:09:26,559 --> 00:09:29,760 Speaker 1: they were able to agree on that. And then after that, 171 00:09:30,040 --> 00:09:33,000 Speaker 1: Jody was asking for a judge to force Joshua to 172 00:09:33,040 --> 00:09:35,560 Speaker 1: adhere to a core order that gives her the power 173 00:09:35,679 --> 00:09:39,760 Speaker 1: to pick elementary school. So it's more so about where 174 00:09:39,760 --> 00:09:42,280 Speaker 1: she's going to go to school next. And the issue 175 00:09:42,320 --> 00:09:46,600 Speaker 1: is that Jody is basically asking for their daughter Juno 176 00:09:47,040 --> 00:09:49,640 Speaker 1: to go to a new school next year. But she 177 00:09:49,760 --> 00:09:52,320 Speaker 1: says that Joshua Jackson is not having that, like he's 178 00:09:52,320 --> 00:09:54,280 Speaker 1: sitting it in a way that now she says that 179 00:09:54,360 --> 00:09:56,920 Speaker 1: she's researched his new school. She talked about it with 180 00:09:57,000 --> 00:09:59,360 Speaker 1: Joshua Jackson and made sure it was close enough to 181 00:09:59,400 --> 00:10:02,680 Speaker 1: his home as well, but he's refusing to get on board. 182 00:10:02,760 --> 00:10:03,040 Speaker 2: Now. 183 00:10:03,360 --> 00:10:06,320 Speaker 1: So that's the school situation. So baby girls in school, 184 00:10:06,360 --> 00:10:08,240 Speaker 1: the school she's that currently is fine. It's about where 185 00:10:08,280 --> 00:10:11,800 Speaker 1: she's going next. As far as the summer schedule, Joby 186 00:10:12,080 --> 00:10:15,679 Speaker 1: Turner is as she's wanting to spend five weeks with 187 00:10:15,760 --> 00:10:18,480 Speaker 1: her daughter in Europe, which she said will allow their 188 00:10:18,559 --> 00:10:22,400 Speaker 1: daughter Juno to enjoy a true sense of continuity and presence, 189 00:10:23,240 --> 00:10:25,520 Speaker 1: which is what I was referencing, something that they both value. 190 00:10:26,160 --> 00:10:29,560 Speaker 1: But Joshua Jackson is pushing back against this because he's 191 00:10:29,600 --> 00:10:32,280 Speaker 1: saying it would leave him without seeing his daughter for 192 00:10:32,320 --> 00:10:35,480 Speaker 1: at least a month. Now. Jody is also asking that 193 00:10:35,559 --> 00:10:38,440 Speaker 1: their daughter, do you know, you know, within these travel plans, 194 00:10:38,520 --> 00:10:40,680 Speaker 1: be able to stay with her and Morocco while she's 195 00:10:40,720 --> 00:10:43,160 Speaker 1: working there. That is the production schedule they were referencing. 196 00:10:43,520 --> 00:10:47,320 Speaker 1: But Joshua is standing. He sentos down with saying we 197 00:10:47,360 --> 00:10:51,280 Speaker 1: need to have a meaningful conversation about this because any 198 00:10:51,360 --> 00:10:57,600 Speaker 1: travel arrangements involving their daughter, including the location, the schedule, 199 00:10:57,640 --> 00:11:00,760 Speaker 1: and all these things. He wants to have a conversation 200 00:11:00,800 --> 00:11:04,600 Speaker 1: about it before he makes actual decisions. And Jody has 201 00:11:04,679 --> 00:11:06,760 Speaker 1: actually said to him as well, like, look, I know 202 00:11:06,760 --> 00:11:09,640 Speaker 1: it's summertime, so if you have a specific travel plans 203 00:11:09,800 --> 00:11:11,840 Speaker 1: or you know anything that you want to do, just 204 00:11:11,880 --> 00:11:13,199 Speaker 1: let me know so that we can talk about it 205 00:11:13,240 --> 00:11:16,840 Speaker 1: ahead of time. But I do want you to talk 206 00:11:16,880 --> 00:11:19,240 Speaker 1: to me about it before you take it to our daughter, 207 00:11:19,600 --> 00:11:21,840 Speaker 1: because you know, it's like once you tell a kid something, 208 00:11:22,240 --> 00:11:24,720 Speaker 1: and she says this, and Jody Turner says this in 209 00:11:24,720 --> 00:11:27,200 Speaker 1: her documents that she followed. She says, you know, once 210 00:11:27,200 --> 00:11:29,720 Speaker 1: you tell a kid something, then it causes confusion and 211 00:11:29,760 --> 00:11:34,960 Speaker 1: it causes disappointment, and I don't want that. Now I'm listen, 212 00:11:35,040 --> 00:11:41,360 Speaker 1: I understand Jody's point, you know, Jody Turner, I understand 213 00:11:41,440 --> 00:11:47,200 Speaker 1: her point right, because look, I'm not biracial. Both my 214 00:11:47,240 --> 00:11:49,199 Speaker 1: parents are black, I mean, as you guys can tell. 215 00:11:50,280 --> 00:11:53,480 Speaker 1: But I hope she doesn't mind me telling the story. 216 00:11:53,640 --> 00:11:56,079 Speaker 1: She knows who I'm talking about. She's listening to the podcast. 217 00:11:56,080 --> 00:11:58,880 Speaker 1: But I have a biracial friend who I got really 218 00:11:58,880 --> 00:12:01,440 Speaker 1: really close to when I was living in LA And 219 00:12:01,559 --> 00:12:03,920 Speaker 1: until I got close to her, I didn't even understand, 220 00:12:04,080 --> 00:12:06,000 Speaker 1: nor did I think that there was a like a 221 00:12:07,400 --> 00:12:10,440 Speaker 1: struggle or a world of things that biracial children went through. 222 00:12:11,160 --> 00:12:14,480 Speaker 1: I remember one time we were in a grocery store 223 00:12:14,840 --> 00:12:17,640 Speaker 1: and we were leaving a grocery store and we pulled 224 00:12:17,720 --> 00:12:19,520 Speaker 1: out of the grocery store and there was a woman 225 00:12:19,559 --> 00:12:22,280 Speaker 1: who was pulling in to take our spot, and then 226 00:12:22,320 --> 00:12:24,120 Speaker 1: there was another car waiting behind us. And the way 227 00:12:24,120 --> 00:12:26,439 Speaker 1: that we backed up, the woman wasn't able to get 228 00:12:26,440 --> 00:12:28,320 Speaker 1: into the spot, so the car behind us was able 229 00:12:28,320 --> 00:12:30,439 Speaker 1: to pull in. So as we're going around the woman 230 00:12:30,760 --> 00:12:32,839 Speaker 1: and it's a white woman, she yells the N word 231 00:12:32,960 --> 00:12:37,880 Speaker 1: out of the window, and oh my god, it picked 232 00:12:37,920 --> 00:12:41,920 Speaker 1: like I mean, I was like, whatever, old white lady. Whatever. 233 00:12:42,320 --> 00:12:45,280 Speaker 1: It pissed my friend off so bad, and I was like, Yo, 234 00:12:45,360 --> 00:12:47,640 Speaker 1: why do you care so much about this woman that 235 00:12:47,720 --> 00:12:50,040 Speaker 1: you don't even know, you know what I mean? Like 236 00:12:50,080 --> 00:12:51,880 Speaker 1: we're in the car, you don't know this woman. Obviously 237 00:12:51,920 --> 00:12:53,560 Speaker 1: she's not about the parking space. She's gonna say anything 238 00:12:53,600 --> 00:12:57,280 Speaker 1: you make you mad. I've learned to just let ignorant 239 00:12:57,280 --> 00:13:00,200 Speaker 1: people be ignorant because I've dealt with it, and I 240 00:13:00,240 --> 00:13:01,880 Speaker 1: know who I am, so I know I'm not the 241 00:13:01,960 --> 00:13:03,520 Speaker 1: N word with an r er, you know what I mean. 242 00:13:03,559 --> 00:13:05,760 Speaker 1: I know I'm an educated, beautiful black woman. Like it's 243 00:13:05,800 --> 00:13:08,040 Speaker 1: different but when I say it pissed her off, It 244 00:13:08,040 --> 00:13:10,080 Speaker 1: pissed her off to the point where we had to 245 00:13:10,160 --> 00:13:12,640 Speaker 1: pull over for her to gather herself and get herself together. 246 00:13:12,679 --> 00:13:14,480 Speaker 1: Like she was crying, she was emotional. It was a 247 00:13:14,480 --> 00:13:19,160 Speaker 1: whole thing. And as I'm talking to her, I'm realizing, like, wow, 248 00:13:19,360 --> 00:13:22,040 Speaker 1: like her identity of self when it comes to her 249 00:13:22,080 --> 00:13:24,640 Speaker 1: as a black woman, because she has a black parent 250 00:13:24,679 --> 00:13:28,880 Speaker 1: and a white parent, it's not as strong like anything 251 00:13:28,920 --> 00:13:32,480 Speaker 1: can kind of shake her. And it's because she grew 252 00:13:32,559 --> 00:13:35,040 Speaker 1: up not as close to her black side of her family. 253 00:13:35,360 --> 00:13:37,719 Speaker 1: So the black identity that she did have and that 254 00:13:37,840 --> 00:13:42,040 Speaker 1: she gained from friends in school and community, whenever that 255 00:13:42,160 --> 00:13:44,760 Speaker 1: was like tested or questioned, no matter how big or 256 00:13:44,840 --> 00:13:48,240 Speaker 1: how small the way that it would throw her off. 257 00:13:49,040 --> 00:13:51,800 Speaker 1: I'd never experienced anything like it. And I think, and 258 00:13:51,800 --> 00:13:53,880 Speaker 1: not even think once we begin to talk about it more, 259 00:13:53,880 --> 00:13:55,640 Speaker 1: I'm like, Yo, why did that bother I get it, 260 00:13:55,640 --> 00:13:58,840 Speaker 1: it's racial, and anybody hearing that is going to bother them. 261 00:13:59,400 --> 00:14:02,480 Speaker 1: But it's sad to say, but it's like, I mean, 262 00:14:03,000 --> 00:14:05,360 Speaker 1: letting ignorant people be ignorant is just a thing that 263 00:14:05,400 --> 00:14:08,880 Speaker 1: I've It's kind of like not a coping mechanism. But 264 00:14:09,080 --> 00:14:11,040 Speaker 1: it's just one of those things. It's things. It's like 265 00:14:11,440 --> 00:14:14,160 Speaker 1: the same way when I walk into a store, my 266 00:14:14,240 --> 00:14:16,680 Speaker 1: first thing is, let me not bring big bags in here, 267 00:14:16,679 --> 00:14:18,840 Speaker 1: because I don't want them to think I'm stealing. Whereas 268 00:14:18,960 --> 00:14:22,040 Speaker 1: another person who don't look like me or who is 269 00:14:22,080 --> 00:14:24,160 Speaker 1: white passing does not have to think about that type 270 00:14:24,160 --> 00:14:26,680 Speaker 1: of stuff. It's just something that I know to do. 271 00:14:27,000 --> 00:14:29,800 Speaker 1: So for me, let ignorant people be ignorantless it's right 272 00:14:29,800 --> 00:14:31,120 Speaker 1: in my face, and I you know what I mean, 273 00:14:31,160 --> 00:14:32,960 Speaker 1: Like that's different. But we're in a car, we're pulling 274 00:14:33,000 --> 00:14:37,000 Speaker 1: off like it's whatever. But in talking to her, what 275 00:14:37,160 --> 00:14:42,480 Speaker 1: I learned and what I realized was that anytime her 276 00:14:42,600 --> 00:14:47,520 Speaker 1: black side, if anything, was questioned, she wasn't sure about 277 00:14:47,560 --> 00:14:50,400 Speaker 1: it enough to stay in firm. And I'm gonna just 278 00:14:50,440 --> 00:14:52,280 Speaker 1: let ignorant people be ignorant because I know that's not 279 00:14:52,320 --> 00:14:55,640 Speaker 1: how I identify. She couldn't stand in that because it 280 00:14:55,680 --> 00:14:58,680 Speaker 1: wasn't instilled in her from her black side of her family. 281 00:14:58,720 --> 00:15:01,640 Speaker 1: So she's never fully been able to like identify with that. 282 00:15:01,680 --> 00:15:04,479 Speaker 1: And the closest thing in proximity she has to identifying 283 00:15:04,480 --> 00:15:07,040 Speaker 1: with it is what she's taught herself. It didn't come 284 00:15:07,080 --> 00:15:10,400 Speaker 1: from a place of love or from people who love her, 285 00:15:11,200 --> 00:15:13,080 Speaker 1: and not even from people who love her because you know, 286 00:15:13,120 --> 00:15:15,080 Speaker 1: as her friend, I love her like that type of thing, 287 00:15:15,120 --> 00:15:17,240 Speaker 1: but not from her mother or like, you know, someone 288 00:15:17,280 --> 00:15:20,720 Speaker 1: that's more like the maternal or nurturing in her life. 289 00:15:21,000 --> 00:15:23,600 Speaker 1: So it just her experience in walking through the world 290 00:15:23,680 --> 00:15:26,840 Speaker 1: was so different, and she was always not black enough 291 00:15:26,840 --> 00:15:29,120 Speaker 1: for the black kids, not white enough for the white kids. Right, 292 00:15:29,480 --> 00:15:31,480 Speaker 1: So she's always been trying to figure out where the 293 00:15:31,560 --> 00:15:35,160 Speaker 1: identity lied and what she identified with the most, right 294 00:15:35,200 --> 00:15:37,520 Speaker 1: which words, which was her black side because of her 295 00:15:37,560 --> 00:15:40,280 Speaker 1: friends and her school she went to and all those things. 296 00:15:40,320 --> 00:15:43,160 Speaker 1: She had an adopted mom who raised her, who was 297 00:15:43,200 --> 00:15:46,240 Speaker 1: also black. But again, it's different. It's not your it's 298 00:15:46,240 --> 00:15:48,400 Speaker 1: not your natural like it's not your your mom who 299 00:15:48,480 --> 00:15:50,760 Speaker 1: birth you. So there's just all these questions that she's 300 00:15:50,800 --> 00:15:53,160 Speaker 1: trying to figure out. I tell you guys this story 301 00:15:53,200 --> 00:15:55,440 Speaker 1: to say that I realized in that moment and being 302 00:15:55,440 --> 00:15:58,440 Speaker 1: friends with her and in that particular moment, that there 303 00:15:58,520 --> 00:16:01,600 Speaker 1: was just something different about being raised to know that 304 00:16:01,800 --> 00:16:04,000 Speaker 1: as a black person in this world, or as a 305 00:16:04,040 --> 00:16:06,680 Speaker 1: black specifically a black woman in this world, to know 306 00:16:06,760 --> 00:16:11,800 Speaker 1: your brilliance and to know your uh just your wholeness 307 00:16:12,320 --> 00:16:14,920 Speaker 1: and where that comes from, like who teaches it to 308 00:16:15,000 --> 00:16:17,800 Speaker 1: you and how you get to know it. It's such 309 00:16:17,840 --> 00:16:21,240 Speaker 1: an important thing and it's it's an everyday thing in 310 00:16:21,280 --> 00:16:23,120 Speaker 1: a black household, and it's something that we don't even 311 00:16:23,120 --> 00:16:25,840 Speaker 1: think twice about as we're raising children or you know, 312 00:16:26,000 --> 00:16:28,240 Speaker 1: me being the child of a mother who was black. 313 00:16:29,120 --> 00:16:33,440 Speaker 1: But when I begin having conversations with my biracial friend 314 00:16:33,560 --> 00:16:36,120 Speaker 1: and I began to realize that, like she didn't have 315 00:16:36,200 --> 00:16:38,720 Speaker 1: that study like to stand on two feet about that 316 00:16:39,520 --> 00:16:41,600 Speaker 1: it was and it was because of what she lacked 317 00:16:41,640 --> 00:16:44,600 Speaker 1: in her upbringing. When I read this letter, and this 318 00:16:44,720 --> 00:16:46,200 Speaker 1: letter is a couple of days old as well, so 319 00:16:46,240 --> 00:16:48,000 Speaker 1: it's been out, you know, not this letter, but the 320 00:16:48,040 --> 00:16:50,080 Speaker 1: letter that was included in the filing is a couple 321 00:16:50,160 --> 00:16:53,040 Speaker 1: days old, so it's been out. When I read it, 322 00:16:53,080 --> 00:16:56,280 Speaker 1: I'm like, man, I can really like I hear her 323 00:16:56,400 --> 00:16:59,720 Speaker 1: and I understand her now whether or not Joshua Jackson 324 00:16:59,720 --> 00:17:01,640 Speaker 1: will understand her, because at the end of the day, 325 00:17:01,760 --> 00:17:04,359 Speaker 1: no matter how much you know, empathy a person that 326 00:17:04,560 --> 00:17:08,040 Speaker 1: is not black has for us and what we need 327 00:17:08,119 --> 00:17:10,080 Speaker 1: and how we need to be poured into in order 328 00:17:10,119 --> 00:17:13,080 Speaker 1: to navigate in the world. No matter how much of 329 00:17:13,160 --> 00:17:15,800 Speaker 1: that you have, it's still different being a black man 330 00:17:15,960 --> 00:17:18,479 Speaker 1: raising a black child with a black woman versus being 331 00:17:18,520 --> 00:17:20,359 Speaker 1: a white man raising a child with a black woman. 332 00:17:20,560 --> 00:17:23,879 Speaker 1: So whether he's gonna fully understand that or not, it's 333 00:17:23,960 --> 00:17:25,679 Speaker 1: one thing. And I you know, we'll see how this 334 00:17:25,680 --> 00:17:28,080 Speaker 1: plays out. And I think that it is so evolved 335 00:17:28,480 --> 00:17:31,200 Speaker 1: for you know, even though their relationship didn't work out, 336 00:17:31,200 --> 00:17:33,280 Speaker 1: for them to even be having those conversations, because it 337 00:17:33,320 --> 00:17:36,600 Speaker 1: is a real thing. Wishing him the best we will, 338 00:17:36,640 --> 00:17:38,959 Speaker 1: you know, I'll say a breast to you know, the 339 00:17:38,960 --> 00:17:40,720 Speaker 1: filings and kind of what happens and where they land, 340 00:17:40,720 --> 00:17:44,360 Speaker 1: because it seems like he's not being just hard about 341 00:17:45,000 --> 00:17:48,359 Speaker 1: her request for no reason. It's just a it's a 342 00:17:48,400 --> 00:17:50,880 Speaker 1: parental thing. It's like a hey, I understand all of that, 343 00:17:51,280 --> 00:17:54,119 Speaker 1: but I'm her father too. He even says in one 344 00:17:54,119 --> 00:17:57,960 Speaker 1: of the documents that he says, I don't think that 345 00:17:58,119 --> 00:18:01,320 Speaker 1: on location tutoring can APPROXI the importance of what Juno 346 00:18:01,400 --> 00:18:03,520 Speaker 1: has received by attending school and being in a consistent 347 00:18:03,560 --> 00:18:07,680 Speaker 1: peer environment this year, her social and emotional development, and 348 00:18:07,720 --> 00:18:11,200 Speaker 1: her academic achievement this year have been truly extraordinary. And 349 00:18:11,359 --> 00:18:14,600 Speaker 1: this is him responding and basically saying, like, you know, 350 00:18:15,040 --> 00:18:17,840 Speaker 1: as she's traveling, like, yes, it's amazing, she'll get to 351 00:18:17,880 --> 00:18:20,399 Speaker 1: learn these things, she'll get to be with you. But 352 00:18:21,440 --> 00:18:24,679 Speaker 1: as school finishes and we want to you know, nurture her, 353 00:18:25,359 --> 00:18:30,720 Speaker 1: you know, socially and academically, still throughout the summer, as 354 00:18:30,720 --> 00:18:34,359 Speaker 1: she prepares to go back into school, traveling and you know, 355 00:18:34,440 --> 00:18:40,600 Speaker 1: not having you know, that peer to peer consistency, it 356 00:18:40,640 --> 00:18:44,359 Speaker 1: could interfere and tutoring is different than being in school 357 00:18:44,359 --> 00:18:46,280 Speaker 1: and being with her friends and all those things. Like 358 00:18:46,600 --> 00:18:49,040 Speaker 1: it seems like, you know, they're trying to accommodate for 359 00:18:49,080 --> 00:18:51,280 Speaker 1: the lives that they live at celebrities. But he's also 360 00:18:51,359 --> 00:18:54,760 Speaker 1: reminding Jody, like there is a level of consistency and 361 00:18:54,960 --> 00:18:57,520 Speaker 1: in normal normalcy that you want to provide for a 362 00:18:57,560 --> 00:19:00,320 Speaker 1: child as well too. Let me know, So I think 363 00:19:00,320 --> 00:19:03,760 Speaker 1: about the conversation. I think that it's definitely one worth having, 364 00:19:03,880 --> 00:19:06,280 Speaker 1: especially as we go into junetieth celebrating all of you know, 365 00:19:06,320 --> 00:19:09,560 Speaker 1: the blackness and all these things. And that's so ironic. 366 00:19:09,680 --> 00:19:11,679 Speaker 1: I didn't even tie the two together when I was 367 00:19:11,680 --> 00:19:14,080 Speaker 1: prepping this, but it's ironic how they both tied together 368 00:19:14,760 --> 00:19:17,960 Speaker 1: talking about celebrating Juneteenth and everything that is your blackness 369 00:19:18,280 --> 00:19:20,680 Speaker 1: that day and every day, but that day specifically. And 370 00:19:20,760 --> 00:19:30,639 Speaker 1: then this story now as we head on out of here, 371 00:19:31,240 --> 00:19:33,359 Speaker 1: in the latest, we have Jamie Fox. Jamie Fox sat 372 00:19:33,400 --> 00:19:36,439 Speaker 1: down for this really interesting interview with BET. He was 373 00:19:36,480 --> 00:19:38,720 Speaker 1: honored at BET. He received an icon of ward for 374 00:19:38,800 --> 00:19:41,800 Speaker 1: his legacy, his career, all of the things during the 375 00:19:41,960 --> 00:19:44,920 Speaker 1: twenty twenty five be ET Awards, which was amazing to see. 376 00:19:44,960 --> 00:19:47,400 Speaker 1: You guys knew I was in LA for the award show, 377 00:19:47,720 --> 00:19:50,480 Speaker 1: but there was an interview that released. I watched the 378 00:19:50,600 --> 00:19:55,280 Speaker 1: interview yesterday and it was such a great interview. Jamie 379 00:19:55,320 --> 00:19:59,359 Speaker 1: Fox talked about everything from you know who taught him. 380 00:19:59,480 --> 00:20:02,320 Speaker 1: He talked about Harry Bellefonte teaching him how to be 381 00:20:02,400 --> 00:20:06,240 Speaker 1: a black man and what that responsibility look like. He 382 00:20:06,320 --> 00:20:10,520 Speaker 1: talked about do you even have to have responsibility as 383 00:20:10,560 --> 00:20:14,280 Speaker 1: a black person or as a black entertainer. He talked about, 384 00:20:14,320 --> 00:20:16,800 Speaker 1: you know, just his abilities and doing the things that 385 00:20:16,840 --> 00:20:19,560 Speaker 1: he's able to do, and his career and you know, 386 00:20:19,680 --> 00:20:22,320 Speaker 1: all all of the things. But he brought up one 387 00:20:22,320 --> 00:20:24,800 Speaker 1: thing that I thought was very interesting. He talked about 388 00:20:24,800 --> 00:20:28,440 Speaker 1: social media and just being famous right now and how 389 00:20:28,440 --> 00:20:31,040 Speaker 1: it is so different than when he got started and 390 00:20:31,080 --> 00:20:31,679 Speaker 1: what he wished for. 391 00:20:33,720 --> 00:20:37,280 Speaker 2: I tell people all the time this is be careful 392 00:20:37,320 --> 00:20:40,840 Speaker 2: what you wish for, because I'm a gregarious dude and 393 00:20:40,880 --> 00:20:45,280 Speaker 2: I just want to have fun. And sometimes people will 394 00:20:45,320 --> 00:20:49,200 Speaker 2: take advantage of that, especially in today's world now, where 395 00:20:50,080 --> 00:20:53,360 Speaker 2: you know you gotta be careful. Everything is looked at, 396 00:20:53,480 --> 00:20:57,879 Speaker 2: everything is scrutinized. So I do a thing in my 397 00:20:57,920 --> 00:20:59,600 Speaker 2: new stand up I'm going out on a new stand 398 00:20:59,680 --> 00:21:03,040 Speaker 2: up call of Victory lap Yeah on Hulu, But I 399 00:21:03,080 --> 00:21:05,720 Speaker 2: talked about how fame is not necessarily fun anymore. 400 00:21:06,359 --> 00:21:07,400 Speaker 1: Back in the day, fame. 401 00:21:07,320 --> 00:21:10,480 Speaker 2: Was cool yourself, but now you know, it's kind of 402 00:21:12,920 --> 00:21:15,520 Speaker 2: it's tough, you know. And what's crazy is everything that 403 00:21:15,560 --> 00:21:19,200 Speaker 2: you're doing could be negated in one post. 404 00:21:19,359 --> 00:21:22,640 Speaker 1: This conversation was unique coming from a Jamie Fox because 405 00:21:22,680 --> 00:21:24,960 Speaker 1: Jamie Fox is a part of that celebrity group who 406 00:21:25,640 --> 00:21:28,480 Speaker 1: he still remembers what it was like to be famous 407 00:21:28,960 --> 00:21:32,959 Speaker 1: pre social media, but he is a huge celebrity, so 408 00:21:33,000 --> 00:21:37,280 Speaker 1: he can't escape life post social media either. When Jamie 409 00:21:37,280 --> 00:21:39,400 Speaker 1: Fox was going through his health battle, I remember being 410 00:21:39,440 --> 00:21:42,399 Speaker 1: at TMZ and you know, one of the things that 411 00:21:42,400 --> 00:21:45,080 Speaker 1: you learned in the newsroom about developing exclusives and working 412 00:21:45,080 --> 00:21:48,480 Speaker 1: on stories is do you always find an angle in? 413 00:21:49,160 --> 00:21:51,240 Speaker 1: Whenever you blocked out one way, you find the angle 414 00:21:51,240 --> 00:21:54,520 Speaker 1: in another way. And I've worked on many stories from 415 00:21:54,560 --> 00:21:56,760 Speaker 1: TMZ to now in my career with the Breakfast Club, 416 00:21:56,880 --> 00:21:59,400 Speaker 1: and you know, in trying to find angles and find 417 00:21:59,400 --> 00:22:02,480 Speaker 1: ways into a bit less invasive at the Breakfast Club, 418 00:22:02,480 --> 00:22:05,640 Speaker 1: thank god, but in trying to find my way into 419 00:22:05,640 --> 00:22:08,960 Speaker 1: these different stories, I still come up on roadblocks where 420 00:22:08,960 --> 00:22:10,919 Speaker 1: I'm like, Okay, what's another way in? Can I you know, 421 00:22:10,920 --> 00:22:12,720 Speaker 1: if the turney don't want to talk, what about the publicist, 422 00:22:12,760 --> 00:22:15,439 Speaker 1: what about the manager, what about the whatever. Jamie Fox 423 00:22:15,440 --> 00:22:18,160 Speaker 1: when he was going through his healthcare, when I tell y'all, 424 00:22:18,200 --> 00:22:21,560 Speaker 1: we couldn't find no way in. We did like everything 425 00:22:21,720 --> 00:22:23,400 Speaker 1: was shut down. His family did a really good job 426 00:22:23,400 --> 00:22:25,639 Speaker 1: of protecting him through that and making sure that not 427 00:22:25,680 --> 00:22:28,160 Speaker 1: too much slipped. There were certain things that still got out, 428 00:22:28,200 --> 00:22:32,719 Speaker 1: but they controlled the narrative. We didn't see him like 429 00:22:33,160 --> 00:22:36,680 Speaker 1: they controlled as much as they could so well in 430 00:22:37,080 --> 00:22:40,920 Speaker 1: a social media time with a name like Jamie Fox, 431 00:22:40,960 --> 00:22:43,520 Speaker 1: who comes from the real era of celebrities, y'all know 432 00:22:43,560 --> 00:22:48,000 Speaker 1: how hard that is. So to hear him talk about 433 00:22:48,080 --> 00:22:50,920 Speaker 1: just you know, thinking of fame one way, wishing for 434 00:22:51,000 --> 00:22:54,639 Speaker 1: fame one way, getting it, and then it being so 435 00:22:54,800 --> 00:22:57,480 Speaker 1: different than what you experienced, especially now with social media, 436 00:22:59,440 --> 00:23:02,840 Speaker 1: I was like, why, that's very ironic because in all 437 00:23:02,880 --> 00:23:08,280 Speaker 1: of my career, working the story and reporting the story 438 00:23:08,320 --> 00:23:10,119 Speaker 1: of Jamie Fox and what he was going through in 439 00:23:10,119 --> 00:23:12,879 Speaker 1: his healthcare was probably one of the toughest stories that 440 00:23:12,880 --> 00:23:14,679 Speaker 1: we worked on. Number one, because it's Jamie Fox and 441 00:23:14,680 --> 00:23:16,919 Speaker 1: he so beloved and we just didn't know what was 442 00:23:16,920 --> 00:23:20,000 Speaker 1: happening and you want him to be okay. But also 443 00:23:20,960 --> 00:23:22,880 Speaker 1: they did his family hold it down? We couldn't get 444 00:23:22,920 --> 00:23:25,320 Speaker 1: there was nothing, nothing leaking on social nothing. So I'm like, 445 00:23:25,720 --> 00:23:27,520 Speaker 1: you know, for him to complain about it, I'm like, man, 446 00:23:27,520 --> 00:23:29,120 Speaker 1: it seems like y'all got it on lock over there, 447 00:23:29,160 --> 00:23:31,400 Speaker 1: Like y'all y'all got a downpack over there, Jamie Fox. 448 00:23:31,440 --> 00:23:33,360 Speaker 1: Though I'm not even gonna lie y'all definitely do. I've 449 00:23:33,400 --> 00:23:36,160 Speaker 1: experienced it firsthand, But I think there is a point 450 00:23:36,240 --> 00:23:38,200 Speaker 1: to what he's talking about. Though. It's like, even when 451 00:23:38,240 --> 00:23:41,439 Speaker 1: he mentioned the you know, like one post and everything 452 00:23:41,480 --> 00:23:43,840 Speaker 1: you've worked for, it could just be negated, like one 453 00:23:43,880 --> 00:23:47,000 Speaker 1: post on social media and the court of public opinion 454 00:23:47,040 --> 00:23:50,800 Speaker 1: can cause a downfall of so many different things. That 455 00:23:51,000 --> 00:23:53,320 Speaker 1: is like the scariest part of a lot of the 456 00:23:53,359 --> 00:23:56,159 Speaker 1: things that I'm experiencing today and in this time. And 457 00:23:56,800 --> 00:24:00,040 Speaker 1: I look at you know, people like Jamie Fox, and 458 00:24:00,160 --> 00:24:03,199 Speaker 1: you know, Gabrielle Union to rah gp Henson and you 459 00:24:03,240 --> 00:24:05,920 Speaker 1: know all of these major Oh my god, Kerry Washington. 460 00:24:05,960 --> 00:24:09,439 Speaker 1: There's so many major names that I look to. I 461 00:24:09,440 --> 00:24:11,800 Speaker 1: think in Hathaway does a really good job of being 462 00:24:11,800 --> 00:24:14,360 Speaker 1: present on social media, but you know, you won't really 463 00:24:14,359 --> 00:24:16,200 Speaker 1: know too much of her business. Like, there are a 464 00:24:16,240 --> 00:24:17,840 Speaker 1: lot of celebrities that I look at and I'm like, 465 00:24:17,880 --> 00:24:20,160 Speaker 1: they do a really good job of still remaining that 466 00:24:20,400 --> 00:24:23,480 Speaker 1: mystique of I'm a celebrity, you can't know everything, and 467 00:24:23,520 --> 00:24:26,000 Speaker 1: I'm not going to give you everything, but still using 468 00:24:26,040 --> 00:24:28,199 Speaker 1: social media to a point where you feel connected with them. 469 00:24:28,280 --> 00:24:31,639 Speaker 1: Kerry Washington owned Twitter during the scandal days, but we 470 00:24:31,720 --> 00:24:34,120 Speaker 1: knew nothing about her personal life until she told us 471 00:24:35,880 --> 00:24:38,720 Speaker 1: those type of uh, you know, celebrities in that age 472 00:24:38,720 --> 00:24:42,359 Speaker 1: of celebrity, it's like the younger the celebrities get, the 473 00:24:42,400 --> 00:24:48,159 Speaker 1: more the that dies out. It just it's disappearing, and 474 00:24:48,200 --> 00:24:50,960 Speaker 1: it's nerve racking a bit, especially as like things are 475 00:24:51,000 --> 00:24:54,119 Speaker 1: growing for me myself. But it's also nerve racking a 476 00:24:54,119 --> 00:24:57,920 Speaker 1: bit too because it causes a like a whole genre 477 00:24:58,040 --> 00:25:02,560 Speaker 1: of media and conversation and just noise of people who 478 00:25:02,600 --> 00:25:05,359 Speaker 1: will do and say anything, and then it's hard to 479 00:25:05,440 --> 00:25:08,800 Speaker 1: negate through that because there's not a lot of people 480 00:25:08,840 --> 00:25:11,639 Speaker 1: out here doing the due diligence. I was literally just 481 00:25:11,680 --> 00:25:15,400 Speaker 1: talking about this the other day for what I do, 482 00:25:15,840 --> 00:25:17,960 Speaker 1: not even just here on the podcast, but for breakfast Club, 483 00:25:18,080 --> 00:25:20,760 Speaker 1: Like you know, waking up in the morning, I'm looking 484 00:25:20,800 --> 00:25:22,560 Speaker 1: through stories trying to figure out what to talk about. 485 00:25:22,920 --> 00:25:24,480 Speaker 1: A lot of times I'm trying to develop my own 486 00:25:24,480 --> 00:25:27,200 Speaker 1: news on my own angles in as I just mentioned exclusives. 487 00:25:27,200 --> 00:25:29,520 Speaker 1: But when I don't have that, sometimes it's like, Okay, 488 00:25:29,560 --> 00:25:31,760 Speaker 1: let me see what the world is talking about. And 489 00:25:31,960 --> 00:25:34,240 Speaker 1: I've been feeling like over these last couple of weeks, like, man, 490 00:25:34,359 --> 00:25:36,240 Speaker 1: so much of this stuff is noise. I'm scared to 491 00:25:36,240 --> 00:25:39,880 Speaker 1: even report certain things, even if valid dot coms are 492 00:25:40,000 --> 00:25:44,320 Speaker 1: reporting it, because things are just so things are just 493 00:25:44,400 --> 00:25:48,720 Speaker 1: so misconstrued, like people can paint any narrative they want. Nowadays, 494 00:25:48,800 --> 00:25:51,400 Speaker 1: because of social media and then it makes a dot 495 00:25:51,440 --> 00:25:54,680 Speaker 1: com or it makes a news report and that is 496 00:25:54,880 --> 00:25:59,280 Speaker 1: so scary and it's just getting worse. So to know 497 00:25:59,359 --> 00:26:01,200 Speaker 1: that it's still fat affecting someone as big as a 498 00:26:01,280 --> 00:26:04,920 Speaker 1: Jamie Fox, I'm like, man, he's like Jamie Fox is 499 00:26:04,960 --> 00:26:07,320 Speaker 1: like pinnacle entertainer. It's not about being a black entertainer. 500 00:26:07,400 --> 00:26:10,679 Speaker 1: He is pinnacle entertainer. Like every there's nowhere you go 501 00:26:10,720 --> 00:26:15,199 Speaker 1: that is not going to know a Jimmie Fox and 502 00:26:15,240 --> 00:26:18,520 Speaker 1: he's still being affected by it. I'm like, it's over 503 00:26:18,560 --> 00:26:20,440 Speaker 1: for the rest of us. We ain't got a shot 504 00:26:20,480 --> 00:26:23,240 Speaker 1: in ht double hockey sticks. If Jamie Fox is feeling 505 00:26:23,280 --> 00:26:25,520 Speaker 1: like this, it's like, man, what do I have to 506 00:26:25,560 --> 00:26:31,320 Speaker 1: look forward to? Well, speaking of social media, I'm gonna 507 00:26:31,359 --> 00:26:35,560 Speaker 1: take you guys outside to the tweets. We outside, we outside, 508 00:26:35,600 --> 00:26:44,320 Speaker 1: we outside in the streets. I tweeted something and when 509 00:26:44,359 --> 00:26:48,280 Speaker 1: I tell you, all the people are in my mentions 510 00:26:48,320 --> 00:26:53,240 Speaker 1: going crazy like go and saying, so I want to 511 00:26:53,240 --> 00:26:56,239 Speaker 1: get y'all take on it, right, Okay, So I retweeted this, 512 00:26:56,480 --> 00:26:59,920 Speaker 1: uh this tweet. It says tr or Gez, who had 513 00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:05,879 Speaker 1: a better first five album run, So they've got TI's serious. 514 00:27:05,920 --> 00:27:10,520 Speaker 1: Tis Trap Music, TI self titled album, TI TI King, 515 00:27:10,640 --> 00:27:14,720 Speaker 1: and then TI versus Tip Verse five TI albums. Then 516 00:27:14,760 --> 00:27:18,960 Speaker 1: you got GZ. So you have Young g Z. Let's 517 00:27:18,960 --> 00:27:22,000 Speaker 1: get it, thug motivation one on one, Young GZ the inspiration, 518 00:27:22,800 --> 00:27:26,800 Speaker 1: Young GZ the recession, Young g Z, Thug motivation won 519 00:27:26,880 --> 00:27:30,080 Speaker 1: on three Hustles, Ambition, and Young g Z seen it 520 00:27:30,119 --> 00:27:35,160 Speaker 1: all the autobiography. Now, I said GZ, And granted, it's 521 00:27:35,240 --> 00:27:39,840 Speaker 1: hard anytime you talk about GZ and TI and a conversation, 522 00:27:39,960 --> 00:27:42,679 Speaker 1: especially comparing it too, but just in general, like anytime 523 00:27:42,720 --> 00:27:45,040 Speaker 1: people bring them up in a competitive way, I think 524 00:27:45,080 --> 00:27:49,000 Speaker 1: people are always so competitive because these are two artists 525 00:27:49,000 --> 00:27:54,080 Speaker 1: who literally changed the face of trap music and everything 526 00:27:54,119 --> 00:27:58,480 Speaker 1: that they've touched, like they've culturally influenced and left a 527 00:27:58,560 --> 00:28:01,119 Speaker 1: mark in a way that like you're gonna feel so 528 00:28:01,240 --> 00:28:03,280 Speaker 1: tied to the change that you felt when they when 529 00:28:03,280 --> 00:28:05,600 Speaker 1: they were doing when they were really in the crevices 530 00:28:05,600 --> 00:28:08,879 Speaker 1: of doing their thing right. So I get it. But 531 00:28:09,080 --> 00:28:11,400 Speaker 1: for me, I don't know, I felt like, and I'm 532 00:28:11,400 --> 00:28:14,840 Speaker 1: not this is not me saying that t I's first 533 00:28:15,119 --> 00:28:18,040 Speaker 1: five albums wasn't a run. That's not what I'm saying. 534 00:28:19,119 --> 00:28:21,520 Speaker 1: I just think that Gz's was a better first five 535 00:28:21,520 --> 00:28:24,040 Speaker 1: album Run. Now, I want to know what y'all think, 536 00:28:24,080 --> 00:28:29,879 Speaker 1: because the people online they're like, what so uh. Someone 537 00:28:29,920 --> 00:28:33,520 Speaker 1: said I'm gonna have to roll with young jeez Tip 538 00:28:33,600 --> 00:28:37,359 Speaker 1: set it up though, then another one said, Lauren, how 539 00:28:37,400 --> 00:28:39,400 Speaker 1: old are you? Where were you back in these days? 540 00:28:39,400 --> 00:28:41,680 Speaker 1: Because you wasn't really outside I could tell by your choice. 541 00:28:41,760 --> 00:28:45,240 Speaker 1: I was like, WHOA. Then someone else said, I'm gonna 542 00:28:45,280 --> 00:28:49,800 Speaker 1: choose both, but Tip hands down, and then somebody agreed 543 00:28:49,880 --> 00:28:55,480 Speaker 1: with Oh, somebody just said, you bugging out cash to 544 00:28:55,680 --> 00:28:58,160 Speaker 1: for S one on X edge, you bugging out will 545 00:28:58,200 --> 00:29:00,600 Speaker 1: all due respect, I gotta respond that album because that 546 00:29:00,640 --> 00:29:02,960 Speaker 1: one's kind of funny. Let me know what y'all think, though, 547 00:29:03,120 --> 00:29:05,520 Speaker 1: So this is more about what I want you guys 548 00:29:05,560 --> 00:29:07,520 Speaker 1: to get on my X account. I'm Lauren la Rosa 549 00:29:07,640 --> 00:29:11,560 Speaker 1: on X my post t I g Z who had 550 00:29:11,600 --> 00:29:15,320 Speaker 1: the better first album first five album run. Let me 551 00:29:15,360 --> 00:29:18,080 Speaker 1: know what y'all think, because I'm not even arguing back 552 00:29:18,080 --> 00:29:20,400 Speaker 1: with the people. I feel that way because I feel 553 00:29:20,400 --> 00:29:23,160 Speaker 1: like Gez's song like when you talk about full bodies 554 00:29:23,200 --> 00:29:24,560 Speaker 1: of work all the way through. And again, I'm not 555 00:29:24,600 --> 00:29:27,600 Speaker 1: taking away from t I. I think it's just a 556 00:29:27,640 --> 00:29:31,800 Speaker 1: personal choice. I just personally, I can name you multiple 557 00:29:31,840 --> 00:29:36,520 Speaker 1: songs off multiple want multiple up, multiple of these albums. 558 00:29:36,560 --> 00:29:38,640 Speaker 1: Is that is that how you think it sends? Te 559 00:29:38,680 --> 00:29:40,120 Speaker 1: don't even know how to talk. That's like you know 560 00:29:40,160 --> 00:29:42,440 Speaker 1: the episode is indre. I can name you multiple songs 561 00:29:42,440 --> 00:29:45,720 Speaker 1: from multiple of these albums because I was maybe too. 562 00:29:45,720 --> 00:29:49,000 Speaker 1: I may maybe I'm just a bigger GZ fan, y'all. 563 00:29:49,080 --> 00:29:50,240 Speaker 1: Let me know what y'all think. I think it's a 564 00:29:50,240 --> 00:29:52,479 Speaker 1: personal choice, personal opinion. I think both of them were 565 00:29:52,520 --> 00:29:56,160 Speaker 1: very influential. I think their you know, first few album run, 566 00:29:56,720 --> 00:29:58,760 Speaker 1: Like I said, it changed the way that we even 567 00:29:58,800 --> 00:30:02,440 Speaker 1: talk about track music, music from the South. I think 568 00:30:02,600 --> 00:30:04,560 Speaker 1: they both have done things that you're never gonna forget, 569 00:30:04,680 --> 00:30:07,360 Speaker 1: Sounds that you're never gonna forget, hooks, bars that you're 570 00:30:07,400 --> 00:30:10,560 Speaker 1: never gonna forget. But personally, it's jeezy for me. What's 571 00:30:10,600 --> 00:30:13,760 Speaker 1: y'all thing? Let me know. At the end of the day, 572 00:30:14,360 --> 00:30:16,440 Speaker 1: there is always a lot to talk about. You guys 573 00:30:16,440 --> 00:30:19,680 Speaker 1: could be anywhere with anybody talking about it, but you 574 00:30:19,760 --> 00:30:22,120 Speaker 1: choose to be right here with me, and I appreciate 575 00:30:22,160 --> 00:30:25,600 Speaker 1: you guys for that. I'm Laura mo Rosa. I will 576 00:30:25,640 --> 00:30:27,880 Speaker 1: see you guys at my next episode.