Speaker 1: Welcome to Movie Crush, a production of I Heart Radio.
Speaker 1: Hey everybody, welcome to Movie Crush Friday Interview edition with
Speaker 1: Justin McElroy, one of the uh, one of the McElroy brothers.
Speaker 1: And if you're a fan of podcasting, that's probably all
Speaker 1: I need to say. But if you don't know the
Speaker 1: McElroy brothers, I'm talking about Justin, the eldest, Travis McElroy,
Speaker 1: who's right there in the middle, and then little baby
Speaker 1: brother Griffin. Griffin has been on the show. You remember
Speaker 1: him from Groundhog Day kind of early on in Movie Crush.
Speaker 1: And these guys are great. They're friends of mine. Uh.
Speaker 1: They do my brother, my brother and me. They do
Speaker 1: uh the Adventure Zone. Um, Justin and his his lovely
Speaker 1: wonderful wife, Sydney, who was a medical doctor, do saw Bones,
Speaker 1: which is a great podcast about kind of weird medical history. Um,
Speaker 1: it's the family business. They do Adventure Zone with their dad,
Speaker 1: who's also a great guy. I've at dinner with him
Speaker 1: with him once and they're they're good dudes. I met
Speaker 1: them through um, like I've met so many people at
Speaker 1: max Fun Con through the Max Fun Network with my
Speaker 1: buddy Jesse Thorne. So many great things have come my
Speaker 1: way because of that. And we hung out at Max
Speaker 1: fun Con quite a few times. They've been there a
Speaker 1: few times with me, sometimes with the wives, sometimes without,
Speaker 1: and I've gotten another families and I just couldn't speak
Speaker 1: more highly of Justin and the gang. They're they're good
Speaker 1: people and they do great work. My brother, My Brother
Speaker 1: and Me is a dare I say, a legendary comedy
Speaker 1: podcast at this point here, at ten years in, they've
Speaker 1: got a great following. Check it out. It's technically an
Speaker 1: advice show, but it's really much more than that. It's
Speaker 1: just good comedy from three very very funny brothers, and
Speaker 1: here we go. His pick was With Nail and I,
Speaker 1: the seven comedy indie comedy out of England from writer
Speaker 1: and director Bruce Robinson. If you haven't seen this movie,
Speaker 1: and I say this in the episode, you can stream it,
Speaker 1: I believe, only on the Criterion channel, which you can
Speaker 1: get a two week free trial of and then cancel
Speaker 1: if you want. But I would keep it because Criterion
Speaker 1: does great stuff. But if you haven't seen With Nail
Speaker 1: and I, please please seek it out. It is um
Speaker 1: great in every way, one of my favorite movies and
Speaker 1: this was Justin's pick. So here we go with the
Speaker 1: great Justin McElroy on with Nail and I. How you doing? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Good good? You look well? Well thanks, I feel well,
Speaker 1: feel great. We couldn't be better? Is everyone? Is everyone healthy? How?
Speaker 1: How are the kids? How's Sydney? How's that? No? One
Speaker 1: of the kids got Okay? Is this the show? Are
Speaker 1: we just talking? This is the show? This is going
Speaker 1: to be I never felt like the show. It felt
Speaker 1: like Show Chuck, you know what I mean, They're very different.
Speaker 1: It's very different vibe. You don't get so inquisitive. Regular
Speaker 1: Chuck doesn't remember that I have children. He's like show
Speaker 1: Chuck is like all dad, like now, um, so okay,
Speaker 1: this is really weird. But uh, one of the kids,
Speaker 1: the little one, Cooper, she's too and she started throwing
Speaker 1: up and it's like, wait, like how I mean, that's
Speaker 1: been the wildest thing about when you have two kids,
Speaker 1: like or any kids. I guess they're just sick constantly.
Speaker 1: It's like every month or just six six six six,
Speaker 1: But they haven't been getting sick, like there's no germs
Speaker 1: for to get them, right, so they're being sick. Sorry,
Speaker 1: how does she get sick? Then we start to look
Speaker 1: around get a tick on her, and then we think, yeah,
Speaker 1: so I think she got some sort of weird like
Speaker 1: tickborn illness like Rocky Mountains out of fever or something
Speaker 1: wild like that. Not that claimed uh like half of
Speaker 1: my brother's peripheral vision Griffin that when he was a kid,
Speaker 1: and he lost some sight his eye. So we're pretty
Speaker 1: worried about it. So we started treating her right away,
Speaker 1: and we got to indulge. This kid hates taking medicine
Speaker 1: so much that I have started to wonder like maybe
Speaker 1: she should just go a little bit blind, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean, Like maybe just a little bit of
Speaker 1: vision loss. And then we would be like, Okay, well,
Speaker 1: I guess nature. Nature takes its course. No, it's a serious,
Speaker 1: serious illness, and of course I won't but it's a
Speaker 1: it's a struggle. Other than that, you know, they's fine.
Speaker 1: They're going like pretty buck wild, I would say, like
Speaker 1: just staying at home, constantly constantly asking us if we
Speaker 1: can if they can go, like to the playground or
Speaker 1: to Great Wolf Floods or Disney World or anyway all
Speaker 1: the bad places you can't go. Uh So they're pretty
Speaker 1: sure crazy, but them that you know, hanging in there,
Speaker 1: which are you? I'm good man, We're fine. We're healthy.
Speaker 1: No one's gotten COVID yet, although quite a few people
Speaker 1: in my circle have and that's always a little scary. Um,
Speaker 1: But yeah, we're fine. I mean, I think, like everyone,
Speaker 1: we sort of settled into things, uh, and this is
Speaker 1: the new normal for now. We're trying to figure out school,
Speaker 1: like all parents are, what do you guys do? Do
Speaker 1: you know? I haven't really decided. We're still waiting to
Speaker 1: see kind of what the plan for the local school
Speaker 1: board is going to be, to see what they because
Speaker 1: Charlie was in pre K last year and would be
Speaker 1: going into kindergarten. Now, we're just now in that area
Speaker 1: where like if you don't send your kids to school,
Speaker 1: the government's like, you do have to send up the school.
Speaker 1: You actually do have to do that. So we're gotta
Speaker 1: forgot something. So even for kindergarten, is that like a
Speaker 1: that counts as its like counts as like attendance and
Speaker 1: you know, yeah, I think what we're looking at right
Speaker 1: now is a potentially doing a little micro school with
Speaker 1: her and through four other families, maybe go school for ants.
Speaker 1: A movie movie called Zoo landerd as long as we're
Speaker 1: talking about films so bright here Chuck hold on, Oh
Speaker 1: there he goes. He's bringing in the mood lighting very nice. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's intimate. Oh wow, justin after dark. Yeah. Uh, you
Speaker 1: know what I was just thinking today of when you
Speaker 1: and Uh in Sydney and Charlie came to town. This
Speaker 1: is before Cooper and we all went to the zoo
Speaker 1: and on the way into the zoo, it's a good zoo.
Speaker 1: But I made the joke. I was like, you know,
Speaker 1: if we recorded this zoo outing, we could probably release
Speaker 1: it as a podcast and make ten dollars easy Casper
Speaker 1: with sponsor that just like a one a one off
Speaker 1: McElroy and Bryant zoo outing, and now we'll get our
Speaker 1: ten thousand dollars. Because advertisers are like so excited to
Speaker 1: spend money right now. They're just going wild with the stuff,
Speaker 1: spreading it out like making a rain, like master p
Speaker 1: in the club, just like dumping out buckets of cash.
Speaker 1: How are things with their brothers? I haven't I haven't
Speaker 1: checked in with those guys lately. You know, like, um,
Speaker 1: we have seen uh, Travis and Teresa. We saw once
Speaker 1: after we had all like I mean we've all been
Speaker 1: you know, quarantining and we're all healthy, so we we
Speaker 1: we we did do that at one point. Uh Graff,
Speaker 1: I have not seen since. You know, they're doing fine.
Speaker 1: Griffin keeps like taking on projects around his house. He
Speaker 1: got really he loves in Austin. He got really mad
Speaker 1: about the bamboo around his house. So apparently he bought
Speaker 1: a chainsaw and just started cutting down bamboo and throwing
Speaker 1: it into a wood chipper. Like that's how he's spending
Speaker 1: his time. It sucks, man. Like we were we were uh,
Speaker 1: you know, we had a pretty good rhythm there because
Speaker 1: we were touring like once a month for a weekend,
Speaker 1: and our kids were hanging out. We were getting to
Speaker 1: hang out. You know. It's just sort of and it's
Speaker 1: by by no means the the worst, not even the
Speaker 1: top one million of worse things about COVID, but like
Speaker 1: it's been a bummer for like for not getting to
Speaker 1: see each other, I mean business things aside, because that
Speaker 1: was like a pretty when it first happened, we were like,
Speaker 1: we had shows booked basically for the rest of the year.
Speaker 1: We had our whole tour lined up, and when it
Speaker 1: first happened, we were all like, well, I hate to
Speaker 1: do it, but I think we're gonna have to cancel
Speaker 1: these shows in late March. And you know what, maybe
Speaker 1: I'm a little worried about the ones in early April.
Speaker 1: Late April will be fine, but like early April, I'm
Speaker 1: pretty worried about Now. It's like, well, see everybody in
Speaker 1: one Yeah, maybe hopefully right. I mean I don't know
Speaker 1: that will be the lesson, you know, as big events
Speaker 1: like that, unless it's a fucking Trump rally, And we
Speaker 1: are in no no rush to be the vanguard of that,
Speaker 1: as much as we miss each other and our fans, like,
Speaker 1: we're in no rush to be the first on the
Speaker 1: on the scene there. No, I mean, who who would
Speaker 1: want to have the responsibility of bringing, you know, a
Speaker 1: couple of thousand people together in a room and having
Speaker 1: two percent of those people get sick. Well with our listeners,
Speaker 1: they nasty, So it's going to be twenty to thirty.
Speaker 1: I mean it will be a blood bath. Uh. Speaking
Speaker 1: of that home projects, I want to talk a little
Speaker 1: bit about your woodworking. Oh, thank god, finally something I
Speaker 1: really care about. Dude, wol did you learn to do
Speaker 1: this stuff? Have you always had these skills or tell
Speaker 1: everyone what have you been doing. I've had a um.
Speaker 1: Wood working has been my lifelong obsession since late May.
Speaker 1: I uh I got a Sydney said she wanted to
Speaker 1: because she wanted to get into gardening. She wanted a
Speaker 1: garden box, like an elevated garden box, because our dirt
Speaker 1: here is um bad bad dirt. Didn't know till it
Speaker 1: became a homeowner you could have bad dirt and good dirt,
Speaker 1: bad dart. It doesn't do anything. So she was like,
Speaker 1: I want a garden box. I was like, well, my bunny, Amazon,
Speaker 1: get your garden box real quick. I'm looking and look
Speaker 1: at I'm looking at It's like there's nothing, there's nothing.
Speaker 1: That was how we wanted. And she said, she said,
Speaker 1: let the record show. She said, I bet you could
Speaker 1: maybe build one. And I was like, yeah, right, it's
Speaker 1: made out of wood and there's no absolutely no way.
Speaker 1: And then I went and got I started looking up
Speaker 1: stuff and I was like, okay, I could do this.
Speaker 1: I could get like I got a circular saw, and
Speaker 1: I got some plywood or some some uh boards and
Speaker 1: and went to go make this garden box. And I
Speaker 1: made this garden box. It's like eight ft by eight
Speaker 1: foot looks like crap and it's terrible. And I was
Speaker 1: as I was looking at I was like, this is
Speaker 1: all I care about, this is all I want to do.
Speaker 1: There's just something about I have been someone who has
Speaker 1: been working in like in words, in ephemeral content. For
Speaker 1: I mean since I was fifteen years old, been writing
Speaker 1: on the Internet, so either writing on the Internet or
Speaker 1: talking into the internet, um, all very ephemeral stuff. Uh.
Speaker 1: And then seeing something that I had made, like physically made. Uh,
Speaker 1: just especially in these these times when like progress on
Speaker 1: things seems to be so hard to come by. Um,
Speaker 1: it's just like I like I was like basically high
Speaker 1: off of it, like the idea of like making something
Speaker 1: and seeing it. Uh. And so I just got really obsessed.
Speaker 1: There's a guy, Steve Ramsey, does a course called, of course,
Speaker 1: it's called the Weekend Woodworker, and it's basically like a
Speaker 1: project a week kind of deal. So I've been chucking
Speaker 1: my way through those in addition to like other projects
Speaker 1: X that I've been wanting that I wanted, like we
Speaker 1: wanted a table for this banquette that we have, uh,
Speaker 1: thank you. It was like very intimidated to make it.
Speaker 1: It's an interesting thing about woodworking though, is like I
Speaker 1: made that in the same week as I made a
Speaker 1: paper tray for my father in law. Um, and the
Speaker 1: paper tray was so much harder, and no one appreciates that.
Speaker 1: They look at a big thing and they're like, WHOA,
Speaker 1: that's big. That must have been really hard. That's not hard.
Speaker 1: There's lots of places. There's lots of places to hid
Speaker 1: your screw ups there, Like I can. I can mess
Speaker 1: up there all day. I just put a little uh
Speaker 1: fix on it. It's harder to do them the smaller stuff.
Speaker 1: It's also fun as I've been using these for like
Speaker 1: gifts for people, because like I don't want to keep
Speaker 1: all this wood stuff around my house that I make,
Speaker 1: uh So I like, yeah, right, there's no What I've
Speaker 1: learned is that there's no when you make something yourself
Speaker 1: like that, there is no reaction that you can get
Speaker 1: from the recipient that will begin to fill the labor
Speaker 1: gap of like you know what I mean. Like, I
Speaker 1: handed it to my father in law who's not expecting it,
Speaker 1: and to his credit, he was like, oh, thanks, that's
Speaker 1: that's really nice to you to do. And I'm like,
Speaker 1: sit down, let me show you this hand stippling. Yeah,
Speaker 1: this took me three hours. I gave myself carpal tunnel syndrome.
Speaker 1: I've to sleep in a brace like like, let me
Speaker 1: walk you through all the different minor cuts I made.
Speaker 1: Look at this one. Look how clean these angles are?
Speaker 1: Three great sand paper I did. Thank you for Dude,
Speaker 1: we are the same person. I got into woodworking probably
Speaker 1: like ten years ago with just uh sort of big
Speaker 1: I'm decent at big, chunky things because like you said,
Speaker 1: it's a lot easier. So I built some tables. I
Speaker 1: built like potters and planners, benches and just little things
Speaker 1: here and there never any kind of fine woodworking at all.
Speaker 1: But uh, I cannot just say here, Emily, I'm done.
Speaker 1: There has to be a big fucking presentation. Oh yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: yeah I have. I have literally went went like hidden stuff.
Speaker 1: When I know she's gonna be downstairs where my workshop is,
Speaker 1: I'll like go hide stuff in the workshop so she
Speaker 1: doesn't see anything like like ready, And then she was
Speaker 1: always like, what do you want me to do? Like
Speaker 1: I build a yellow, yellow patio table that looks like
Speaker 1: I kind of bought it at Walmart for thirty bucks, right,
Speaker 1: And I built him like, tont what do you think
Speaker 1: it's yellow h T D Generation, which it's all about
Speaker 1: the reveal. Yeah, exactly, exactly. Oh man, that's great. Maybe
Speaker 1: i'll h with your permission, I'll throw a couple of
Speaker 1: your pieces up on my Instagram. Yes, goes out so
Speaker 1: people know what the hell we're talking about. Um, how
Speaker 1: are all the shows doing? And for the benefit of
Speaker 1: the listener that I mean, like the two or three
Speaker 1: people that don't know who you are. You're flattering here.
Speaker 1: You're one of the three McElroy brothers along with Griffin,
Speaker 1: now we know of that's true, along with Griffin who
Speaker 1: did Groundhog Day very early on. Travis has not been
Speaker 1: on yet. Um, and I was waiting to see how
Speaker 1: you guys in person, but now it's just this is
Speaker 1: what's going on. So I figured why not. Uh, and
Speaker 1: guys have my brother, my brother and me. You have
Speaker 1: Adventure Zone. You and your wife Sidney, who is a
Speaker 1: medical doctor, have Sawbones. Uh. Just tell everyone a little
Speaker 1: bit about all those so they can go from you.
Speaker 1: That's basically, I mean, those are the three biggest ones
Speaker 1: that we make the My brother, My brother made an
Speaker 1: advice show, sort of a bad advice show that we've
Speaker 1: been doing for ten years now. It's sort of like
Speaker 1: our I guess if you want to say flagship product, Yeah,
Speaker 1: for sure. It's basically just the three of us sitting
Speaker 1: around telling bone or jokes about gusts. Um the best.
Speaker 1: Thank You. The Adventure Zone is a actual play role
Speaker 1: playing podcast we do with our dad, who was great.
Speaker 1: Thank you. Um, I don't know why I thank you.
Speaker 1: I have nothing to do with my dad being great. Uh.
Speaker 1: And well, actually, I mean we've we said a lot
Speaker 1: of rough edges off not to get too deep in
Speaker 1: the woodworking slide profit of a little. Um. The The
Speaker 1: Adventure Zone we turned into a so my brother, my
Speaker 1: brother me we did a six episode I'm going to
Speaker 1: call it a mini series on the now failed comedy
Speaker 1: streaming service See So that NBC trying to get going. Uh.
Speaker 1: The Adventure Zone we turned into a graphic novel uh
Speaker 1: series that releases like one with the newest one of
Speaker 1: those is coming up, is the third one is coming out?
Speaker 1: And here in uh like July think um and a
Speaker 1: board game uh and stuff like that. And then saw
Speaker 1: Bones is a medical history show that I do with
Speaker 1: my wife who's a position and she's one very smart
Speaker 1: and too like is really into medical history stuff like
Speaker 1: weird medical history, leeches and like that. So every week
Speaker 1: we'd take a new um very much inspired as so
Speaker 1: many of us are. I think by the stuff you
Speaker 1: should know format um take it, take a topic and
Speaker 1: and do a deep dive on it with one of
Speaker 1: with her sort of educating me on it um And
Speaker 1: we did a book based on that show in October.
Speaker 1: I think that looked terrific. Yeah, thank you, it was.
Speaker 1: I was proud of how it came out. And did
Speaker 1: some smaller joff I do I do the Empty Bowl,
Speaker 1: which is a meditative serial podcast with my friend Dan
Speaker 1: Gilbert who runs a serial website called seriallesly dot Net.
Speaker 1: I do us and the guys who run the Worst
Speaker 1: Idea of All Time do an annual Paul Blart Mall
Speaker 1: cop two reviewed cast till till Death Do us Blart.
Speaker 1: It's it's so fun to do. It's actually weird to
Speaker 1: have something that we're releases annually because it's just like
Speaker 1: we have to keep the premise of the show is.
Speaker 1: In addition to this recording of it, we have each
Speaker 1: pick successors who, in the event of one of our
Speaker 1: deaths will take our place in the show. So it
Speaker 1: is the world's very first eternal podcast. Um, who's your success? Um,
Speaker 1: who's my Oh it's my daughter Charlie, so she has um. Uh.
Speaker 1: Travis is Stewart Wellington from the flophouse who frequently sends
Speaker 1: Travis like emergency and different immunos boosting uh drugs just
Speaker 1: to keep him alive. Um. And I think that we
Speaker 1: used to do one called the Macary Brothers will be
Speaker 1: Introls World Tour and then we were so we don't
Speaker 1: have to do that podcast anymore because we were in
Speaker 1: the Controls World Tour. That so funny, I mean, and
Speaker 1: that that literally came about because you guys did that
Speaker 1: show right, Yeah, it was. It was very much a visualization,
Speaker 1: you know, the secret law of attraction as the universe
Speaker 1: and let the universe provide. Um, is there gonna be
Speaker 1: a follow up? What's your next thing you want to
Speaker 1: try and materialize? Um, we haven't had that. We haven't
Speaker 1: put the time into it. We tried to get on
Speaker 1: the tonight show. That probably a lot easier now, wouldn't it. Uh,
Speaker 1: try to go with Nigea for a while. I've never
Speaker 1: really worked out Um, and I don't know. We're busy
Speaker 1: with actual like stuff. Weirdly at this point, um when
Speaker 1: I was many like pie in this Guy, and it's
Speaker 1: mainly about like we can make our own podcasts. We
Speaker 1: can't get into TV and movies, but I was making
Speaker 1: those anymore. Right, We're trying, you know, it's it's it's tough,
Speaker 1: but but we have the last laugh because we can
Speaker 1: just be in our basement and do our thing. Yes,
Speaker 1: so suckers, I have been for a better part of years. Well,
Speaker 1: I'm finally in the basement. Um, you know, Josh, and
Speaker 1: I've been recording remotely during this whole time. I go,
Speaker 1: I do Movie Crush down here, but I actually have
Speaker 1: been going into the office, my completely empty office, to
Speaker 1: do stuff you should know, just because we had I've
Speaker 1: had a couple of audio issues here in the basement,
Speaker 1: and for Movie Crush it's passable, but you know stuff
Speaker 1: you should know. You gotta gotta keep that ship, like
Speaker 1: sound proofing kind of issues or just like no, uh,
Speaker 1: we lost one episode because of the unit that I
Speaker 1: was recording into had a hardware failure. And then the
Speaker 1: last couple of shows, I've had some like crackling and
Speaker 1: I think I have like a bad Mike cable, but
Speaker 1: I don't know that because I'm not listening to it live, right,
Speaker 1: But stuff, you should know. You can't look around like that.
Speaker 1: You gotta make that ship perfect profession. That's right. Uh. Well,
Speaker 1: I'm glad everything is cruising along with you guys. I
Speaker 1: figured everyone was. I was doing well. But yeah, we're
Speaker 1: hanging in there. It's good to see you man, Good
Speaker 1: to see you too. Check. Well, this has been great.
Speaker 1: All right, let me know if you ever want me
Speaker 1: to be on your podcast movie Crush. Uh. So, let's
Speaker 1: dive into with Nail. Well, actually, before we dive into Dad,
Speaker 1: I want to talk a little bit about movies in
Speaker 1: your youth. I'd talked to Griffin about sort of what
Speaker 1: it was like growing up in the Mcarroy household movie wise,
Speaker 1: and he that was so long ago, though, I think
Speaker 1: people would love to hear a little bit about just
Speaker 1: sort of the culture that was coming your way and
Speaker 1: where it was coming from and that kind of thing.
Speaker 1: I mean, it was very much dictated by our dad.
Speaker 1: I think our dad was like an old school like
Speaker 1: one of those real like comedy fans, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean. Like he was a morning DJ for forty
Speaker 1: years who did a lot of like all comedy work there.
Speaker 1: But like Dad was the one who got us deep
Speaker 1: into like, um, Kids in the Hall and melt Brooks
Speaker 1: and m St. Three K and stuff like that. So
Speaker 1: there was a lot of like old comic like Marx
Speaker 1: Brothers and you know that that sort of vibe. Um,
Speaker 1: as much as we would tolerate in our young age,
Speaker 1: you know, we didn't appreciate things that didn't have a
Speaker 1: lot of fart jokes in them back then. Um. But
Speaker 1: then like yeah, right right exactly. And then like I
Speaker 1: don't know, we would get fixated on movie like bad
Speaker 1: movies sometimes that we would just rewatch. Not bad, but
Speaker 1: just like this is movie Meet the Deals about two
Speaker 1: brothers that were park Rangers, and was like yeah, uh,
Speaker 1: we would watch that a hunter times watched The Stupids
Speaker 1: starring Tom Arnold like a ba jillion times. Um. I
Speaker 1: don't know why. They would just be certain movies that
Speaker 1: like delighted us and we would watch I know, Griffin
Speaker 1: and Travis watched Kung Pao Enter the Fist like I
Speaker 1: mean literally a hundred times in our in our youth, um,
Speaker 1: and I think that that was like rewatching stuff was
Speaker 1: a big thing. We weren't allowed to see our rated
Speaker 1: movies until we were adults, so like there was very
Speaker 1: little sort of like horror or I mean one time
Speaker 1: I was at a kid's sleepover and they were watching
Speaker 1: I'll Never Forget Sleepaway Camp three, I want to say
Speaker 1: two or three, and I actually called my mom to
Speaker 1: come pick me up because I was so scared. Both
Speaker 1: of like both of like the movie, but just like
Speaker 1: it felt just like it felt like watching my friends
Speaker 1: play with a loaded gun. Right, guys, we are not
Speaker 1: we are not supposed to be doing this. This is terrifying.
Speaker 1: That was the same way, man I was. I've told
Speaker 1: the story before, but my first R rated movie was
Speaker 1: Escaped from New York and there was a little church
Speaker 1: youth group kid together and that movie was coming on
Speaker 1: and I went out of the room and I called
Speaker 1: my mom and asked if I could watch it, and
Speaker 1: she said, because you called, you can watch it. And
Speaker 1: I really appreciate that. And you know, she didn't know
Speaker 1: she had the best son in the world at the time.
Speaker 1: I went. The first one I saw the theater, first
Speaker 1: saw the theater was Terminator to Judgment Day Um, but
Speaker 1: I told my mom that I was going to see
Speaker 1: a showing of The American President, which should have been
Speaker 1: up big fucking tip off. I mean, come on, I
Speaker 1: was absolutely not, and I did so I went, I
Speaker 1: actually did buy the ticket get for both, really so
Speaker 1: you can have I would have the American President tickets.
Speaker 1: Don't know what, sort of like Colombo bullshit. I thought
Speaker 1: my mom was about to pull on me, but like
Speaker 1: it did have the ticket stuff for American President. Did
Speaker 1: like read a synopsis of the movie, being such an actor,
Speaker 1: it was a really you know what I am? I
Speaker 1: asked someone who had seen the movie, I think it
Speaker 1: was okay, my friends, I think I want to see
Speaker 1: with my friend Tommy Red and I think his mom
Speaker 1: had actually seen The American President, and I asked her, like,
Speaker 1: what should I say, and she said, um, the tell
Speaker 1: her that you really liked Aaron Sorkin's dialogue. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: think I probably didn't tell my mom that, which like
Speaker 1: she I bet I bet. She immediately was like, so,
Speaker 1: how did Eddie for Along do in the movie Terminator
Speaker 1: du Judgment Day? But I know that you definitely went
Speaker 1: the song because I know exactly your whole thing, and
Speaker 1: that just happened to be playing at the same theater,
Speaker 1: and your mom was like, come on, give me a break,
Speaker 1: Come on kids. Um. Griffin's movie, you know, was of
Speaker 1: course Groundhog Day. Yeah, that was that a big one
Speaker 1: for you too. Oh yeah, yeah, that's one of those
Speaker 1: that still hold. I mean, you can watch that now
Speaker 1: still like brilliant, fantastic. It's a shame they don't make
Speaker 1: comedies for adults anymore because see another one of this.
Speaker 1: But uh, I think I think Griffin's quote on that
Speaker 1: one was, um, it is not only my favorite movie,
Speaker 1: but it's the best movie. Fair. Fair Sure, that's fine.
Speaker 1: I'll let you guys tackle that at your next Thanksgiving. Yeah, um,
Speaker 1: all right, so obvious type yeah, Jesus man, how depressing. Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 1: And you're still in West Virginia too, right, you didn't move. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I love that you stayed there. Man, that's that's great.
Speaker 1: I like it here. I know where all the restaurants are. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and you know, everyone sort of moved away a little bit.
Speaker 1: But aside from Travis's brief stint in l A, no
Speaker 1: one saw sort of you know, the bright lights of
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Speaker 1: all had delusions that it was going to catapult us too,
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Speaker 1: materialized at least not in the world of cinema or
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Speaker 1: bit more diverse backgrounds and locations and stuff like that
Speaker 1: has helped helpful for three of us, I think. So,
Speaker 1: I mean this is the same with us man, we
Speaker 1: stayed in Atlanta and never even considered going anywhere else.
Speaker 1: And then the industry sort I mean, you guys have
Speaker 1: been around for a long time too, but we're a
Speaker 1: couple of years ahead of you. Guys. But the industry
Speaker 1: grew up so much around us. You know, who who
Speaker 1: needs I mean we did our brief failed stint in
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Speaker 1: that stuff? That we got the best allies? You have
Speaker 1: to leave you just shoot that? Or did they shoot
Speaker 1: that in Atlanta? Shot it in Atlanta? Yeah? Actual film
Speaker 1: production resources there I forgot. Yeah, it was it was good. Um.
Speaker 1: But and and the thing I missed when it didn't
Speaker 1: get renewed was just it was just so much fun.
Speaker 1: I didn't really hear about being on TV. But I
Speaker 1: love being on because I was a I worked on
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Speaker 1: a p A and art department, and like, I just
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Speaker 1: out with my brothers and stuff, the thing that I
Speaker 1: really liked about, um making a TV show was having
Speaker 1: co workers. I had forgotten how much I enjoyed that.
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Speaker 1: think so since then I had not had like people
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Speaker 1: And it's really nice having like a big group of
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Speaker 1: Um So that was cool, but I'm back to isolation now,
Speaker 1: as are we all welcome to my health um and yeah,
Speaker 1: also just realizing that where we are both in podcasting
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Speaker 1: great life and it is. I don't think I would
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Speaker 1: obviously has this huge, huge upsides, but for who I
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Speaker 1: you're when you're trying to break into stuff, it seems
Speaker 1: like and you're just trying to get somebody, anybody to
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Speaker 1: I mean for sure. Like we have a college here,
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Speaker 1: my deal A little bit is I finally got called
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Speaker 1: six or eight months ago. And she was like, well,
Speaker 1: what do you say to this? And I said, where
Speaker 1: have you been? Like, I've been waiting. I just want
Speaker 1: to go back to my school and be kind of
Speaker 1: a big deal. That's it. I've been offering to like
Speaker 1: my high school journalism teacher, like, you know, podcasting sort
Speaker 1: of a big deal if you want me to come right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: shery embarrassing. All right, Well, let's dive into with Nail
Speaker 1: and I the seven film written to by Bruce Robinson.
Speaker 1: I know you actually put forth Wayne's World is your
Speaker 1: favorite movie, and you were kind enough. I've just I've
Speaker 1: done enough of those kind of silly comedies to where
Speaker 1: there it's not the best conversation for this show. Uh
Speaker 1: would have I would have done it, and of course
Speaker 1: we would have had a good conversation no matter what.
Speaker 1: But they're not the best for this medium. Well, you
Speaker 1: know it's so funny about this chuck that that I
Speaker 1: did not realize until I mean literally moments before we
Speaker 1: started recording. I know about this movie because of Wayne's World.
Speaker 1: Oh from from Danny Yes, Wayne's World two features a character.
Speaker 1: It's very strange. It's like one of it's like a
Speaker 1: very weird cinema thing that like I don't know of
Speaker 1: a lot of examples of this, but in Wayne's World two,
Speaker 1: there which I feel like people are probably more aware of,
Speaker 1: which I watched almost as much as I watched Wine
Speaker 1: World one, I mean a jillion times. There's this character
Speaker 1: who's a roading named Dell, and he's very um, you know,
Speaker 1: he's obviously like kind of drugged out and very weirdly serene,
Speaker 1: but also a little bit scary and intimidating, and like
Speaker 1: he's a great it seems like this great, amazing, like
Speaker 1: one off character. Uh. And then I was reading something
Speaker 1: about Wayne's World. It's like, this is a character called
Speaker 1: Danny who is a drug dealer in a movie called
Speaker 1: with Dan I And it's not like it's similar. It
Speaker 1: is the same character named something different in a completely
Speaker 1: unrelated cinematic universe. It is so strange. But yes, the
Speaker 1: Danny and this was also filmed you know, a good
Speaker 1: fifteen ish ten fifteen years before Wayne's World, so like
Speaker 1: it's just the same guy again in the movie, which
Speaker 1: I'm sure like Mike meres Uh saw that movie and
Speaker 1: was like, hey, can you just or somebody saw that
Speaker 1: movie and was like, hey, can you just do this again?
Speaker 1: You can just do that character. They should have named
Speaker 1: him Danny Um. And so the other little easter egg
Speaker 1: that I'm sure you probably know about is Alien three.
Speaker 1: Did you know about this? I don't think all right.
Speaker 1: So Alien three was Fincher's run at Alien and he
Speaker 1: wanted a reunion of this cast and he couldn't get
Speaker 1: Richard E. Grant, but Paul McGann and Richard Griffiths, I'm sorry,
Speaker 1: and Ralph Brown who played Danny or both in Alien three,
Speaker 1: and Richard E. Grant turned it down and he was
Speaker 1: There was also another homage because this movie is one
Speaker 1: of those that, I mean, they call it a cult film,
Speaker 1: but it's it's I think more than that. It's sort
Speaker 1: of this cultural touchstone to so many English people for sure,
Speaker 1: but even Americans and other filmmakers and writers. It's, uh,
Speaker 1: it's okay, So things I like it without getting getting
Speaker 1: more into trivia, because it's like whatever things I like
Speaker 1: about with Nilan, I'm are my wife and I watched
Speaker 1: it as a result of this and talk about like
Speaker 1: a movie that you can like vibe on to you
Speaker 1: like it. It has such a distinct uh vibe this
Speaker 1: movie that is, it feels weird. It feels out of
Speaker 1: time sort of. It's maybe filming in the mid eighties
Speaker 1: that set in at the very end of the sixties. Um,
Speaker 1: but it doesn't even feel like the late sixties that much. No,
Speaker 1: it's very well, it's very low budget, so there's not
Speaker 1: like a lot of like set decoration and stuff like that.
Speaker 1: Um that that that they've done to make it feel
Speaker 1: you know, of a period. Um. It it is very subdued.
Speaker 1: There's not a lot going on in it, um from
Speaker 1: my life, from a from a story perspective, like there's
Speaker 1: not much plot. It's about two unemployed actors that go
Speaker 1: on holiday by mistake. I mean that is literally the
Speaker 1: entire bed um, And there's not much story to be told.
Speaker 1: It's just very much about the vibe that that of
Speaker 1: their of the world that they're at. It's bizarre. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and what hit me um watching this last night was
Speaker 1: And first of all, I saw this in college when
Speaker 1: I worked at the cool video store that had all
Speaker 1: the cool indie movies. Um. Then I've seen it twice
Speaker 1: since before last night. Um, each time with one of
Speaker 1: my good friends from England, UM, one of my oldest
Speaker 1: friends from college still one of my best friends, Justin
Speaker 1: we watched it together. And then when I lived in
Speaker 1: l A, I had a very good friend named Guy
Speaker 1: four Guard and it was one of his favorite movies
Speaker 1: and we watched it together. Um. But watching it last night,
Speaker 1: it really hit me of what what a corny, hokey
Speaker 1: movie this could have been? Like like two unemployed actors
Speaker 1: go on a a mistake in vacation to the English
Speaker 1: countryside inzaneanists ensues, which is exactly what happens. But there's
Speaker 1: nothing about this that's hokey, your corny. It's so real. Well,
Speaker 1: it's very grounded. It's like if you look at these guys.
Speaker 1: So these guys start off in absolutely deplorable circumstances with Nail,
Speaker 1: who is like very overly dramatic and cruel and cowardly
Speaker 1: and crappy. Uh. And then there's I who doesn't get named.
Speaker 1: Who's Paul McGann who was the eighth doctor? Uh? And um,
Speaker 1: the just them living in deplorable circumstances. They're drugging out
Speaker 1: of their minds they are living in like it feels claustrophobic.
Speaker 1: It's so fully realized that like you feel like I
Speaker 1: want you guys to get out to this seems miserable. Um.
Speaker 1: But when they go to their to this, one of
Speaker 1: their friends, Uh with Nail has an uncle Auntie who
Speaker 1: has a house in the countryside. The two of them
Speaker 1: go there and like from the moment they get there,
Speaker 1: it's so ground. It's like the whole movie is like this.
Speaker 1: But like like, for example, when they show up at
Speaker 1: the cottage, they don't have um fire, they didn't bring
Speaker 1: anything to start a fire. Wish they have. They have
Speaker 1: no food, they don't have boots, so they have wrapped
Speaker 1: their feet in plastic to protect from the weather. And
Speaker 1: it's like that is not something that a comedy like
Speaker 1: this would normally concern itself with. But those small, even
Speaker 1: the small details like that their desperation and ineptitude, like
Speaker 1: each thing becomes feels momentous. They at one point are
Speaker 1: at a bar and they see a poacher come in
Speaker 1: who has um takes and has it eels that he
Speaker 1: takes out in his pants that he whacks the head
Speaker 1: of the eel on the bar til it dies, and
Speaker 1: he puts the eel down his pants, and then they
Speaker 1: come over and there's a scene of them like trying
Speaker 1: to talk him out of giving them the eel he
Speaker 1: has down his pants, And like every scene is like
Speaker 1: that of like these very small but bal circumstances being
Speaker 1: elevated just by their like absolute ineptitude at navigating uh life. Um.
Speaker 1: I think, like a lot of great comedies, it is
Speaker 1: also undercut with a real sadness, um that it is
Speaker 1: very much about the end of this era. It is
Speaker 1: very much about the end of the sixties, and like
Speaker 1: the reckoning that would come, it is very much about
Speaker 1: the hangar the I think they even talk about like
Speaker 1: how the seventies are gonna be a massive hangover from
Speaker 1: the sixties, and that is very much what you you
Speaker 1: see buildings, Like as they're driving out to the countryside,
Speaker 1: there's a couple of shots of buildings being like demolished. Um,
Speaker 1: it's all very gray and washed out, and like it
Speaker 1: feels that way. It feels like, um, they're eulogizing the
Speaker 1: sixties in a sense, like and these guys are kind
Speaker 1: of got caught at the end of the party and
Speaker 1: they're they're a couple of the last guys still there,
Speaker 1: and there's a real like sadness about the whole thing
Speaker 1: that I think actually makes it work better than it
Speaker 1: would without it. Oh. Absolutely. Um. And you know, seeing
Speaker 1: this movie in my twenties and thirties, which was I
Speaker 1: think the last time I saw this was when I
Speaker 1: was in l a probably fifteen sixteen years ago. Uh,
Speaker 1: and then seeing it here at forty nine, I had
Speaker 1: the this wave wash over me where I was like,
Speaker 1: oh my god, with Nail is a desperate alcoholic Yeah,
Speaker 1: and that is the sadness I think seeing it through
Speaker 1: older eyes, Um, it's it's very funny, and the alcohol
Speaker 1: is played as a as a gag so much through
Speaker 1: the movie, but when you see it as a as
Speaker 1: a grown adult like this, you can't help but think,
Speaker 1: oh my god, this guy is going to die young
Speaker 1: of of liver disease, you know. Um, yes, which is
Speaker 1: hard to separate from how funny them talking about the
Speaker 1: meeting hit, one of his best lines is, uh, the
Speaker 1: movie is like infinitely quota if you've seen it. My
Speaker 1: wife and I have have been doing it for years.
Speaker 1: But at one point, with Nail is standing, he has
Speaker 1: covered his body in what appears to be icy hot
Speaker 1: to keep him warm because they have no heat. He's
Speaker 1: covered his entire body and icy hot. It's a fantastic
Speaker 1: gag because he has slathered every inch of himself and
Speaker 1: icy hot. And then he says to I, he says,
Speaker 1: there wasn't much in the tube. There's left for you there,
Speaker 1: which obviously he had, like he had bathed himself with
Speaker 1: it and already. But he's standing there and he's shouting
Speaker 1: about how badly he needs a drake, and he just screams,
Speaker 1: I demand to have some booze. And it's my wife
Speaker 1: and I've been doing that to each other, like when
Speaker 1: when life demands it, like just out of nowhere, Sydney,
Speaker 1: I demand to have some booze. Well. And there's the
Speaker 1: other great line in the end about the finest wines.
Speaker 1: We we all have the finest wine known humanity. I
Speaker 1: demand it whom here. We want them to know that
Speaker 1: he there God. I mean, we'll definitely go through some
Speaker 1: of these lines. One of them is when early on
Speaker 1: in the film is when they're you know, there are
Speaker 1: these two outwork actors, and one of the things they
Speaker 1: do is go down to the labor exchange when they're
Speaker 1: not working, and I guess that's they're filing for unemployment
Speaker 1: or whatever between jobs, and he says, he says that
Speaker 1: everyone's doing it, and with Nail goes, I haven't seen
Speaker 1: gilgad down at the labor exchange, and then he takes
Speaker 1: his brief beat and very desperately he says, why doesn't
Speaker 1: he retire? And Richard E. Grant is so great in
Speaker 1: this it's his first movie, and it's just like I
Speaker 1: mean to to to make for this to be your
Speaker 1: first role. It's just like Revelatory. You know, it's just
Speaker 1: performed so iconic. Um, it's so yeah, it's so iconic. Um.
Speaker 1: The I was trying to think of the other you
Speaker 1: were talking about. Um, it's like Greenland in here. Uh
Speaker 1: where did you get super he's eating? Um? So we
Speaker 1: mentioned Uncle Monty and I did want to talk about
Speaker 1: that all bit because it is an interesting I mean,
Speaker 1: talk about things you don't realize um as like tastes
Speaker 1: and awareness of things continues to evolve. We see there's
Speaker 1: a big plot point that and and basically, um, the
Speaker 1: what you come to learn is that Uncle Monty is gay,
Speaker 1: and it is very heavily implied that with nail has
Speaker 1: promised that if he lets them use his cabin that uh.
Speaker 1: I who's apparently as googling, I found his name is Peter.
Speaker 1: I'm going to prefer to miss Peters. I think in
Speaker 1: the script he's Marwood Marwood, Yeah, Peter Marwood. Um. And
Speaker 1: Peter's uh is also secretly gay and would you know
Speaker 1: have a romp with you? Um? And there is a
Speaker 1: and and basically this time period much more closeted, much
Speaker 1: more tabbook um. And Uncle Monty comes up. Who's Richard Griffiths,
Speaker 1: who you'll know is uh Mr Dursley Harry Potter has
Speaker 1: adopted dad, you know the uncle um that and he's fantastic.
Speaker 1: And there's a scene where Uncle Monty Uh, well he
Speaker 1: he has come to the cottage and he is helping
Speaker 1: them to get a little bit more settled. He's been
Speaker 1: very kindly but also kind of obviously has designs on Peter. Uh.
Speaker 1: And there's a scene where, against Peter's wishes, um, Uncle
Speaker 1: Monty like comes upstairs and basically like attempts to force
Speaker 1: himself on to Peter. And it is like a very
Speaker 1: it's a very troubling scene. It's a very disturbing scene.
Speaker 1: UM's play like a horror movie on it is it is,
Speaker 1: but it and obviously I'm a straight guy. I I
Speaker 1: my read on this may be completely wrong. This is
Speaker 1: just as I've watched it repeatedly and through different lenses
Speaker 1: that I've gotten older. My most recent take on it
Speaker 1: is like in a lesser movie, it would be a comedy.
Speaker 1: In a lesser movie, it would be I mean, and
Speaker 1: a lesser movie from like now, I mean, you know,
Speaker 1: like this time period. The idea of a closeted uh,
Speaker 1: gay dude attempting to you know, have his way with
Speaker 1: a straight guy. It's like, yeah, yeah, yeah, okay, good, yeah,
Speaker 1: that's a really good comparison. Right, But this movie, I think,
Speaker 1: both through like direction and writing, but also through Richard
Speaker 1: Griffith's performance is absolutely, like, astonishingly good in this movie.
Speaker 1: He is out of control good. Um. He abused it
Speaker 1: with a sadness and a desperation of somebody who basically
Speaker 1: lived a lie his entire life and is just now
Speaker 1: sort of, you know, realizing that that's not gonna be
Speaker 1: his life. Um, and Monty is not given a chance
Speaker 1: to We're not seeing him forgiven. In terms of the movie,
Speaker 1: we don't see him. He doesn't like make it up
Speaker 1: to anybody, but the movie doesn't also try to excuse
Speaker 1: his behavior. He just disappears from the movie at this point. Um.
Speaker 1: But it's really like, it feels more like a commentary
Speaker 1: and maybe this is overly generous again, but it feels
Speaker 1: more like a commentary on what society did to gay
Speaker 1: people at that point by making them hide their existence.
Speaker 1: I think it totally was. Um. I mean, this was
Speaker 1: said in nineteen nine and the character of Monte is
Speaker 1: in his sixties. Easy, So this is a gay man
Speaker 1: in England who grew up from the turn of the
Speaker 1: century where it was literally illegal and you could be
Speaker 1: chemically castrated. Uh. In that letter that he leaves the
Speaker 1: next day when he's out of there is just so
Speaker 1: sad and tragic. You know. Yeah, it's very it's very sad. Um. Uh,
Speaker 1: fun trivia for you. Richard Griffith said, more credit to
Speaker 1: his performance. He was forty years old when this movie
Speaker 1: was cut up. Really yeah, yeah, here's yeah. While meanwhile, yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, and you're absolutely that's the read though he
Speaker 1: does he has not meant to read. It's a forty
Speaker 1: year old dude. I don't think so. And here's another
Speaker 1: bit of trivia. I don't know if you knew, but um.
Speaker 1: The writer and director Bruce Robinson based that character on
Speaker 1: Zepharelli because he, as a young, very handsome actor, was
Speaker 1: in Zepharelli's Romeo and Juliet and apparently was very much
Speaker 1: hit on and come onto by Zepharelli. Uh, he thought
Speaker 1: inappropriately as a much older man, and even took some
Speaker 1: of the lines directly from Zepharelli, like are you a
Speaker 1: spongerous stone? Apparently was something Zepharelli actually said to him. Wow. Um, yeah,
Speaker 1: it's it's it's a it's tough. I mean, I don't
Speaker 1: know how a smarter person or a gay person would
Speaker 1: would feel about watching that scene. That is just sort
Speaker 1: of my read on it. Um yeah, I'm with it.
Speaker 1: It's a very it's it's but but I mean, I
Speaker 1: think it definitely feels progressive in terms of the mid
Speaker 1: to late eighties. You know, he is not sort of
Speaker 1: like othered or made to be a monster because of
Speaker 1: his sexual orientation. It is because you know, of the
Speaker 1: the attempted assault of of Peter. But um, yeah, and
Speaker 1: that's sort of a through line through the movie. You know,
Speaker 1: there's a couple of times where there's the one time
Speaker 1: in the bar earlier on in the pub when the
Speaker 1: guy calls him a ponce, U calls Marwood a ponce
Speaker 1: and he's just terrified of getting beat up. And I
Speaker 1: think I think he and with Nail are it seems
Speaker 1: like they're constantly being mistaken for a gay couple. Yeah,
Speaker 1: And actually, you know, seeing it again and having not
Speaker 1: seen it in a while, I couldn't really remember. I
Speaker 1: kind of thought they were a gay couple. And then
Speaker 1: it's sort of jogged my memory as the movie went
Speaker 1: along that they weren't. But they do sort of read
Speaker 1: that way, I think to the locals in Camden Town.
Speaker 1: It's a very interesting relationship the two of them have,
Speaker 1: and it's really the cornerstone of the whole movie because
Speaker 1: they're basically a unit. It's a love story, you know,
Speaker 1: it really is, and it's and it's interesting because Peter
Speaker 1: obviously very much cares about with nail Um and cares
Speaker 1: about his constantly like frets about his well being, his safety,
Speaker 1: attempts to like look out for him in a lot
Speaker 1: of different ways, and I think there is an implication
Speaker 1: that um, Peter has a job offer, um that he
Speaker 1: has is maybe feeling guilty about because with Nail does
Speaker 1: not also have work. Um. And it's interesting because Peter
Speaker 1: very much cares about with Nail. With Nail does not
Speaker 1: seem to have the capacity to care about Peter in
Speaker 1: the same way or anyone or even yeah, anyone other
Speaker 1: than himself. Very self obsessed. And I think what you
Speaker 1: do see, what he lets show through is sort of
Speaker 1: a a dependence on Peter um that that he needs
Speaker 1: and it's very much lost without um. How deep do
Speaker 1: you get, like plot wise on this show in terms
Speaker 1: of like trying to avoid talking about like the ending
Speaker 1: of movies and no, no, it's all it's all fair game. Um.
Speaker 1: It's interesting in the in the very we're talking about
Speaker 1: the elegy for the eulogy for the sixties, um, the
Speaker 1: very last scenes of the movie, Peter gets his job
Speaker 1: offer and cuts his hair to which is a very
Speaker 1: it doesn't seem like a big thing, but it's a
Speaker 1: very big deal. Yeah, very symbolic. He's leaving with Nail behind,
Speaker 1: who I think is sort of the if you if
Speaker 1: you want to get overthink it is like very symbolic
Speaker 1: of the self indulgence of the sixties. Then, uh, Peter
Speaker 1: is sort of like moving on from that and and
Speaker 1: letting himself be sort of absorbed into the working world
Speaker 1: or the more traditional world. While yeah, that and and
Speaker 1: with Nail is kind of left by himself. And it
Speaker 1: was very sad, very sad final scene where he's sort
Speaker 1: of like mourning the loss of Peter. Um. But like
Speaker 1: that sadness doesn't come out of nowhere. It's like present
Speaker 1: from the beginning of the beginning of this Okay, interesting trivia.
Speaker 1: The beginning of this movie was funded by George Harrison,
Speaker 1: so they have killer music in this movie. The soundtrack
Speaker 1: of this movie is excellent of and the very opening
Speaker 1: scene is this instrumental version of Whiter Shade of Pale.
Speaker 1: It is in front of a live audience. It's like
Speaker 1: such a strange vibe, but so clearly like says, this
Speaker 1: is what the movie is, like, this is gonna be
Speaker 1: this kind of movie. Um uh so that but that
Speaker 1: sadness is more present than the comedy like for like
Speaker 1: it is is both the beginning and ending of this
Speaker 1: is it is a sad story. Um, but I don't
Speaker 1: does it feel you did it? Does it make you
Speaker 1: sad to watch it now, like especially as you were
Speaker 1: talking about, you know, watching as an older dude. No, Um,
Speaker 1: it doesn't make me sad, uh, because it's so goddamn funny.
Speaker 1: It's really funny. I mean really really really funny. The
Speaker 1: script is so good. Um. I mean there's a melancholy
Speaker 1: I think that watching it over you. Uh, and you
Speaker 1: do wonder especially now, like I said, watching as an
Speaker 1: as an older guy, Uh, like what happens after Marwood leaves,
Speaker 1: like what happens to with Nail, I don't think anything good,
Speaker 1: which is that it was the character was based on
Speaker 1: and this is somewhat hearsay, but there is based on
Speaker 1: diet throat cancer in the mid nineties, and there was
Speaker 1: a it is perhaps due to his actually drinking lighter
Speaker 1: fluid like with now does that's rough? Rough? Chuckles? That
Speaker 1: was tough. Um. Yeah, But I mean there's so so
Speaker 1: many funny moments. So like the Danny stuff, there's you
Speaker 1: get too great Danny sequences. That first one where he's
Speaker 1: first introduced and just that guy's voice. Man, like that
Speaker 1: guy can't say a line without me laughing. It's so good. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he's fantastic. And then the last one where they come
Speaker 1: back and he's basically been squatting with presuming Ed, one
Speaker 1: of the great character names of all time. Presuming Ed,
Speaker 1: who Danny is, is getting out of the drug business
Speaker 1: to start a doll company with presuming Ed because presuming
Speaker 1: Ed's niece has a doll that peas and Danny and
Speaker 1: presuming Ed are going to make a doll that and
Speaker 1: that's like there, that's his business. That's his business. Uh plan. Yeah,
Speaker 1: And yet it doesn't come across as some way. I mean,
Speaker 1: if this was some Hollywood version, it would just that
Speaker 1: would be such a dumb joke. But it works in
Speaker 1: this movie. Um, the the oh my god. Uh this
Speaker 1: Danny line from the very end of the movie, this
Speaker 1: last scene really like he this character is very out there,
Speaker 1: but he also some because he is sort of unhinged
Speaker 1: a little bit. He's able to talk about thematic elements
Speaker 1: of this movie with having to ground. This is a
Speaker 1: line that I mean here, Um, if you're hanging onto
Speaker 1: a rising balloon, you're presented with a difficult decision let
Speaker 1: go before it's too late, or hang on and keep
Speaker 1: getting higher, posing the question how long can you keep
Speaker 1: a grip on the rope? They're selling hippie wigs and
Speaker 1: Woolworth's Man. The greatest decade in history of man, mine
Speaker 1: is over. And as presuming ed here has so consistently
Speaker 1: pointed out, we have failed to paint a black It's like, oh, dude,
Speaker 1: that is so great. They're selling hippie wigs and wool warp.
Speaker 1: It's like that's a whole movie. Like like that's literally
Speaker 1: the whole movie. Like that's the whole movie. And in
Speaker 1: a single line, Uh, it's an It's wildly well written.
Speaker 1: There's not a line out of place in this entire movie. Yeah.
Speaker 1: And and they he has that that carrot joint and
Speaker 1: they they and earlier they challenge each other to a
Speaker 1: drug off. Basically that's such a good scene when he
Speaker 1: brings out that pill and Richard brands like, give it
Speaker 1: to me, I'll run a mile. He's like, I can
Speaker 1: do ten times the drugs that you can. But it works.
Speaker 1: It never comes across as like some silly, sort of
Speaker 1: juvenile movie. I think because of that tragic undercurrent and
Speaker 1: like you were talking about the the passage of time
Speaker 1: and that the sixties dawning into the seventies, there's there's
Speaker 1: just so much more substance, so much more meat on
Speaker 1: the bone in this movie. Yeah, it's it's We could
Speaker 1: honestly like repeat, like it would be a more entertaining
Speaker 1: podcast if we just read the script up with talent
Speaker 1: I because that's literally the entire film is like that.
Speaker 1: I feel so jealous of people that have not watched
Speaker 1: this movie because it is I mean, you get to
Speaker 1: see it for the first time. It's so good and
Speaker 1: you really do a lot of the transfer and sound
Speaker 1: stuff is like not so great. I watched it on
Speaker 1: a Oh my god, it drove me crazy. Have my
Speaker 1: big TV there. Put a put in the Criterion Collection
Speaker 1: DVD within on I, which is one of the very
Speaker 1: few places you can like track it down. It's in
Speaker 1: four three letter boxed for three right four three here
Speaker 1: and then letter box top and box is wild there
Speaker 1: and that is like, that's the Criterion he told me.
Speaker 1: It was in the Criterion Service, right, you can get
Speaker 1: you can watch it on the Criterion Channel and if
Speaker 1: you're a listener, you can sign up and get two
Speaker 1: weeks of that for free. If I mean, I would
Speaker 1: recommend just paying for the Criterion Channel because it's great,
Speaker 1: but you can get two weeks free, watch a bunch
Speaker 1: of movies and cancel if you want, Yeah, if you
Speaker 1: want um still yeah, still free Country. There's something else
Speaker 1: too about a movie with two guys on the take,
Speaker 1: Like every time, every time they can, they're trying to
Speaker 1: scam booze, whether it's using the money for the Wellies
Speaker 1: when they're supposed to go buy boots. And he goes
Speaker 1: in and he has that great scene in the bar
Speaker 1: where he goes, we'll have to work quickly a couple
Speaker 1: of quadruple whiskeys in another point, please, Or every time
Speaker 1: Monty leaves the room or turns his head, Richard E.
Speaker 1: Grant or with nail grabs that bottle of sherry sherry
Speaker 1: and just chugs as much as he can before he
Speaker 1: comes back into the room. It's just so funny. It's
Speaker 1: very yeah, it's very yeah. The obsession with he has
Speaker 1: a he has a m Danny has invented a device
Speaker 1: that you's a child's you're the child urine and then
Speaker 1: drunk drive, you demand you're ine tested when you're arrested
Speaker 1: and you fill it with the child yes, which of
Speaker 1: course there's a fantastic payoff for later the movie. But
Speaker 1: oh yeah, absolutely it's really really really good. Um again,
Speaker 1: talking about like adult comedies sad, there's not They don't
Speaker 1: let h let people make these anymore. Another one of
Speaker 1: my favorite parts is, you know when they are at
Speaker 1: the cottage and they just they have no food and
Speaker 1: they're trying to get food. He goes to the neighbor
Speaker 1: of this old lady who's basically just like, fuck off,
Speaker 1: get out of here, asking for eggs, and they eventually
Speaker 1: get some food through her son who was the farmer.
Speaker 1: With the farmer the polythene wrapped around his leg and
Speaker 1: he has whats happened to his leg and he has
Speaker 1: called a Randy bullop the gave me one in the knee.
Speaker 1: Um it. Oh man, this is a very good movie.
Speaker 1: If you haven't seen it, make sure you track it down.
Speaker 1: I recommend subtitles too. This is the first. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: watched it with subtitles last night for the first time,
Speaker 1: and there's just so much more that you get. And
Speaker 1: then there's still a lot that as an American, flies
Speaker 1: right over my head because so much as colloquial um.
Speaker 1: And that was apparently when when Robinson was getting the
Speaker 1: movie made, they really wanted him to change the script
Speaker 1: to make it more broad I think not comedy broad,
Speaker 1: but just they're like, you have all these sayings in
Speaker 1: here that people are not going to get because it's
Speaker 1: sixties Camden Town, London specific. And he was like, no,
Speaker 1: this is the movie like uh, and he couldn't get
Speaker 1: it made. Uh, And so they got money to do
Speaker 1: it himself from George Harrison. From George Harrison. Yeah, weird,
Speaker 1: Like do you know what it actually is? Funny? It
Speaker 1: reminds me of is The Princess Bride in that regard,
Speaker 1: because that's another movie exact same you know, time period.
Speaker 1: Is this where it's like did not have a bit,
Speaker 1: did not make a splash in theaters, but was really
Speaker 1: was released in the exact right time period where VHS
Speaker 1: was starting to become so commonplace that everybody could like
Speaker 1: buy movies on VHS right and rewatch them, and we
Speaker 1: watched them. And there's this this period of like right
Speaker 1: around this like mid late eighties period where like movies
Speaker 1: like this start to be able to develop a cult following.
Speaker 1: You release this movie five years earlier maybe and no
Speaker 1: one's ever maybe no one's ever heard of it because
Speaker 1: like it doesn't have the you know, if it flops
Speaker 1: the one time in theaters like that, that might be
Speaker 1: it for for the movie. You know, you don't have
Speaker 1: the vhs released there or rental options. Yeah, for sure.
Speaker 1: I never really thought about that, but I think you're
Speaker 1: totally right. The other thing is stood out at me
Speaker 1: too last night was the narration in this movie. Narration
Speaker 1: could be so tricky, um, but it works so well
Speaker 1: in this movie because it's not. I think narration at
Speaker 1: its worst is so overly sentimental and instructive. But this
Speaker 1: is this is his more of his sort of inner monologue,
Speaker 1: and like it informs the character, but it doesn't telegraph
Speaker 1: like what's going to happen next, which is the worst
Speaker 1: kind of narration. Yeah, it's much more about um uh
Speaker 1: thematic some yeah, laying out the thematic bounds of the
Speaker 1: movie much more than it is about like his own
Speaker 1: motivations or um and anything like that. It's much more
Speaker 1: about talking the you know, talking around the edges of
Speaker 1: the movie than something that sort of dictates this is
Speaker 1: how this character is feeling. Yeah, yeah, absolutely, before we
Speaker 1: get to the very end, because we should dissect that
Speaker 1: scene a little bit. The two more big standout laughs
Speaker 1: for me, where the when he sets that when he
Speaker 1: sets that fucking chicken on the log in the smoker, Yes,
Speaker 1: just sits him up right, the chicken that they killed somehow. Uh.
Speaker 1: Peter says, uh that when they're looking at the chicken,
Speaker 1: it's got dreadful beady eyes. They stare at you. Best
Speaker 1: kill it quick before it tries to make friends with us.
Speaker 1: It's so good and he's so he's such a good
Speaker 1: actor too. I think he it's easy to think about
Speaker 1: Richard E. Grant's performance, Um yeah, as such a bravura performance,
Speaker 1: But Paul McGann is so great in this. His desperation
Speaker 1: and fragility really sells it. Like, yeah, he's so desperate.
Speaker 1: There's a scene that you were talking about, the guy
Speaker 1: insulting him for being a puce in the bathroom. He's terrified.
Speaker 1: He's terrified. He's like peeing in the urnal with this
Speaker 1: he by the guy doesn't even register facially when the
Speaker 1: guys like punts doesn't register, keeps a smile on his face,
Speaker 1: goes into the bathroom, absolutely has a breakdown, kind of
Speaker 1: figure out what he did wrong to this guy, and
Speaker 1: it walks back out of the bathroom with the exact
Speaker 1: sing especially just like face it on and just informs
Speaker 1: with Nail that they need to leave the bar right then, yea,
Speaker 1: And of course with Nail with all his you know
Speaker 1: which fucking guy said that to me? And you know,
Speaker 1: he turns around like he's going to fight the guy,
Speaker 1: of course, and then they bail because he's not gonna
Speaker 1: fight anybody. No, yeah, he said. He suggests that they
Speaker 1: take it outside, handle it like gentlemen. He Oh. There's
Speaker 1: actually a beautiful line reading there where Richard Grant sees
Speaker 1: the size of the guy and says, um, what my
Speaker 1: friend acquaintance here was trying to get like almost says
Speaker 1: friend stops changes to acquaintance with my acquaintance here. He's
Speaker 1: constantly selling him down the river, like all through the
Speaker 1: whole movie. It's it's hysterical out and I think that
Speaker 1: that's like, it's very uh seeing the end of that relationship,
Speaker 1: I think says a lot about both of them. Yeah, yeah, absolutely. Um.
Speaker 1: The other big standout scene for me comedy wise is
Speaker 1: the tea room scene when they go to buy the Wellies.
Speaker 1: They get loaded at the pub and then go to
Speaker 1: get some cake and tea, and that stuffy tea room
Speaker 1: is such a good scene. It looks so good. Also,
Speaker 1: it makes me hungry every time I see it, because
Speaker 1: I know that feeling of like I got too drunk
Speaker 1: in the middle of the day and I need to
Speaker 1: do something right now or I'm headed for disaster. Well,
Speaker 1: and just how proper the Brits are with everything. Uh,
Speaker 1: it's so great, what a great with Nail announces that
Speaker 1: they are millionaires, are going to make a movie. I
Speaker 1: want to fill a scene there. Yeah, Peter says, we're
Speaker 1: not drunks, were multimillionaires. And then that with the else
Speaker 1: says he wants to film a scene there, and that
Speaker 1: they might film a scene there and the locations. Yeah
Speaker 1: all right, so that last that last sequence, you know,
Speaker 1: like you mentioned earlier, Uh, Marwood gets a job. Like
Speaker 1: there's only one way this movie can end, and that
Speaker 1: is this way, Like they have to part um. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they have to break up in a certain sense, and
Speaker 1: Marwood has to be the one that grows up and
Speaker 1: gets the work and with Nail has to be the
Speaker 1: one that is left behind. It's the only way this
Speaker 1: movie can go. And he gets that haircut and the
Speaker 1: the physical transformation is just so striking against with Nail's
Speaker 1: sameness in that same ill fitting suit with his sort
Speaker 1: of greasy hair and still trying to have that last
Speaker 1: drink and get drunk with him one last time, and
Speaker 1: he won't. He won't do it. You know. That's so
Speaker 1: like symbolic of this parting of ways and so sad,
Speaker 1: which they do without hanging a hat on it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: which is so smart, Like they don't they don't like
Speaker 1: make a big You've always loved Boost. We drink so
Speaker 1: much Boost together. How could you you've really changed? Like
Speaker 1: are you just reading the script? I'm so jealous. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that uh uh the last thing Okay, so the last
Speaker 1: shot of the movie. You want to talk about like
Speaker 1: having faith in yourself as like one a screenwriter to
Speaker 1: a director three an actor. The last bit of the
Speaker 1: movie with nail by himself and reciting the in the rain,
Speaker 1: reciting the what a piece of work is man? Speech
Speaker 1: from from Hamlet. It's like so fucking good. It's so good.
Speaker 1: But also like, so you're gonna in the movie with Hamlet,
Speaker 1: like you're gonna take a bit from Hamlet, Richard I
Speaker 1: Grant is gonna fucking I mean absolutely sell it. I
Speaker 1: don't know the dude ever played Hamlet, but he should have.
Speaker 1: He's absolutely brilliant, these twenty seconds of Hamlet that he
Speaker 1: does at the end of the movie. And then that's it.
Speaker 1: It's just hit with nail by himself. Um. It's it's
Speaker 1: really really the courage of that, like the the the
Speaker 1: bravado of that, Like, well, we're just gonna crip from
Speaker 1: Hamlet real quick at this part, and you know it's
Speaker 1: it deserves to be in our movie and we should
Speaker 1: be in the same brother the Samlet. Um, it's it's
Speaker 1: genius and his his performances is perfect, like everybody's performances,
Speaker 1: uh in the movie, because there's not really a lot
Speaker 1: of characters, but every I think every one of them
Speaker 1: is does a fantastic job. Yeah. And there's also that
Speaker 1: one line that kind of foreshadows earlier. I will never
Speaker 1: play the Dane. That's true. Yeah, Uncle Monty. What is it?
Speaker 1: Such a sad moment in a young man's life and
Speaker 1: he likes someone warn't realizes I will never play the Dane. Yeah.
Speaker 1: And I mean this movie, I can't. I just can't
Speaker 1: say enough about it. It's uh. And and actually and
Speaker 1: that maybe that's him really, Oh man, So I had
Speaker 1: never connected those two. But like that's the moment for
Speaker 1: with now realizing that will never play the Dane, so
Speaker 1: he plays him in the rain. Yeah, by the zoo
Speaker 1: with those wolves behind them behind the fence. It's just
Speaker 1: such a powerhouse I've seen and I looked up the
Speaker 1: what a piece of work is Man, just to get
Speaker 1: sort of Wikipedia stake, and it says this, and it's
Speaker 1: just theatrical Scholaria dr Wicki and dr Wicky said, uh.
Speaker 1: In this passage, Hamlet is expressing his melancholy to his
Speaker 1: old friends. In this case, I guess the wolves over
Speaker 1: the difference between the best that men aspire to be
Speaker 1: and how they actually behave and the great and the
Speaker 1: great divide that depresses him. And that's it, man, And
Speaker 1: that's the movie. Yeah, that's the movie. God, what a
Speaker 1: good flick. So great. I feel like still not, as
Speaker 1: you know, you said, it's not quite a cult hit.
Speaker 1: I think that's fair. I think it has a bigger
Speaker 1: impact on people. I still don't feel it's like I
Speaker 1: feel like it could be a lot more well known.
Speaker 1: I think Harold is like one of the greats. Like
Speaker 1: it is, it deserves to be in the same breath
Speaker 1: as pretty much every other comedy classic, but I feel
Speaker 1: like did never made like the American impact. Um that
Speaker 1: that you know a lot of other movies didn't. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's on some lists in England, is like a top
Speaker 1: twenty all time film from England and stuff like that.
Speaker 1: So I mean it's definitely has its do as a
Speaker 1: cult hit in certain circles. Though it ain't easy to
Speaker 1: watch either. I mean, like, thank goodness for Criterion. Like
Speaker 1: I've been making do with with like bad vhs and
Speaker 1: DVD transfers to this movie since we started watching it,
Speaker 1: like and there is If you went to try to
Speaker 1: buy this right now, I think you're gonna pay like
Speaker 1: d dollars DVD of it. It's like impossible to to find. Yeah,
Speaker 1: well check it out on Criterion. Um, I got a
Speaker 1: question for you too, Do you say chin chin when
Speaker 1: you toast? Okay, this is interesting. Wow, that's so funny
Speaker 1: that you say that. My wife and I wanted to
Speaker 1: start saying it. We couldn't figure out if it was
Speaker 1: racist or not. We have spent many because there's so
Speaker 1: many things to sneak up wine every If you have
Speaker 1: not wondered if something as racist, it probably is. And
Speaker 1: that we're like chinching, Is that like a racist thing?
Speaker 1: We googled and googled and googled, could not find it,
Speaker 1: but couldn't find enough that said it's definitely not. It's
Speaker 1: one of those weird things like the origin I guess
Speaker 1: is not super super clear. We have not found definitive
Speaker 1: evidence that it is, but it was still nerve were
Speaker 1: nervous enough people, uh that we just have sticked to
Speaker 1: prost now, I oh, boy, prost is super racist, dude,
Speaker 1: dang kidding. Um, I didn't know if this was the
Speaker 1: origin or not, or if that was a common you
Speaker 1: think it's a common I've heard other British people saying,
Speaker 1: I don't know if there it's from from this movie,
Speaker 1: but I never knew. I've had certainly had plenty of
Speaker 1: friends that said it over the years. Yeah, And I
Speaker 1: always think it's a nice little shorthand for being It's
Speaker 1: sort of like being in a little club like if
Speaker 1: you love this movie, you know, yeah, it says a
Speaker 1: lot about who you was. Definitely would put it on
Speaker 1: the map if it was not the originator of it.
Speaker 1: It's definitely what made it more common. Totally all right, dude,
Speaker 1: you got anything else on with nail. If not, we'll
Speaker 1: finish with a quick five questions. Wrap it up, all right, dude,
Speaker 1: what was the first movie you saw in a theater?
Speaker 1: Are you thinking? I mean, I am trying to I
Speaker 1: you would think I would know that offhand. Um, but
Speaker 1: it I'm pretty sure. Et okay, that's that is the
Speaker 1: great first movie. Let me see when did that come out?
Speaker 1: Let me double check my memory there? That was two.
Speaker 1: As long as movies stayed in theaters, then that is possible.
Speaker 1: All right, Yes, I'm gonna go to et okay. Uh,
Speaker 1: what is your first R rated movie? Uh? Well, that's
Speaker 1: funny that we've covered. My first home all rated movie
Speaker 1: was like Who We Can't Part two? Possibly I didn't
Speaker 1: know if you fully watched it. Well, I didn't get
Speaker 1: through it, so I guess no. We will go. We
Speaker 1: will give it to t tail. Okay, we will give
Speaker 1: the honor of fully completing. Yeah, because you don't watch
Speaker 1: ten minutes of a movie from between your fingers and
Speaker 1: say yeah, I saw it. I saw that. Some people do. Uh.
Speaker 1: Let me see number three. I'm trying to find my
Speaker 1: list because I don't do these as much anymore. Um,
Speaker 1: all right, here it is number three and people listeners
Speaker 1: are like dumbing, you know, the your questions, will you
Speaker 1: walk out of a bad movie or do you stick
Speaker 1: it out? I have walked out of one movie, Beverly
Speaker 1: Hills Ninja. I'll talk you about to say cop no
Speaker 1: Beverly Hills Ninja. I walked out of. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: Beverly Hills Ninja walked out of. But that is the
Speaker 1: only that is the by and large, No, uh nowadays,
Speaker 1: like it is so absolutely rare. Well I mean not
Speaker 1: nowadays in the coronavirus times, but since I've had kids,
Speaker 1: it's so rare that I'll like be able to get
Speaker 1: to go to a movie theater that I would probably
Speaker 1: just no matter what, like show static, I don't care
Speaker 1: now I'm with you. Well and uh, And I talked
Speaker 1: about this a lot with other parents. Is like you
Speaker 1: don't you don't take flyers on bad movies anymore. You
Speaker 1: go when you know it's a great movie. I saw
Speaker 1: the last time I went to the movie theater, I
Speaker 1: saw someone looking at posters and then talking with someone
Speaker 1: about what to go see. And I almost had like
Speaker 1: I melt like are you you just showed up? You're
Speaker 1: like what starting? So people, that's a thing. I've heard.
Speaker 1: What a luxury that must be. You're either independently wealthy?
Speaker 1: Are you very sad? I've planned it. It's like weeks
Speaker 1: of planning, and I've built my schedule around going to
Speaker 1: see this fun um. Number four are I used to
Speaker 1: ask a guilty pleasure, but now I'm more akin to
Speaker 1: ask um if you could be how about this? If
Speaker 1: you and your brothers could be in any classic comedy,
Speaker 1: what movie would that be? You don't have to be
Speaker 1: the leads, but you could place yourself in any classic comedy. You, Travi,
Speaker 1: and Griffin. I think I would love if we were
Speaker 1: in a Marx Brothers movie. But the Marx Brothers were
Speaker 1: still in it, and it was just kind of us.
Speaker 1: We were the three three people were just like this
Speaker 1: is wild, Like we're just staying out the side. Lease,
Speaker 1: guys are nuts. Has everybody seen this? This is hilarious.
Speaker 1: Check these guys out. There are three less funny brothers
Speaker 1: that are just started watching from the sidelines, encouraging them,
Speaker 1: putting them up to different things. I love it. Uh.
Speaker 1: And then finally number five movie going one oh one?
Speaker 1: What is your when when you could go to movies?
Speaker 1: What was your routine. Where do you like to sit?
Speaker 1: What do you like to eat? Okay, so I buy
Speaker 1: I will buy too many snacks because but the movie
Speaker 1: is like, I'll get the big drink. I'll get some
Speaker 1: candy too, and some popcorn. Gonna do the whole thing.
Speaker 1: I go with my kid a lot now to go
Speaker 1: see like kids type movies. So you get like a
Speaker 1: booster seat. Uh if the theater is available, I'd like
Speaker 1: to be. I'le like sort of center, like if you
Speaker 1: enter on the left house left, I'll be like center
Speaker 1: of the house, but like far left on the aisle.
Speaker 1: Because I like to use the bathroom at least once
Speaker 1: in every movie I've ever been. I can't hold it
Speaker 1: that long, especially with this huge soda IM pounding now,
Speaker 1: So I'll use the run p app to time it out.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, with every movie. Yeah, obsessively. I've never used that.
Speaker 1: I've heard about it. I should check that out. It's perfect.
Speaker 1: It's you know what you can do now. They updated
Speaker 1: it to where you can press a button when the
Speaker 1: movie starts, and then you'll get a little buzz in
Speaker 1: your pocket when it's like, hey, it's a good time,
Speaker 1: a good peek. You don't even have to take your
Speaker 1: fun out of your pockets. She's like, oh wow, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna go pee right now, and then while you're peeing,
Speaker 1: you read the synopsis of the bit that you're missing,
Speaker 1: and then you go back here and people. Every time
Speaker 1: I've been married to my wife for fourteen years a
Speaker 1: week ago. Every time I'll come back, she'll try to
Speaker 1: tell me when I miss I say, you do not
Speaker 1: need to come of the run. PS informed me. I
Speaker 1: am fully caught up. Awesome. I gotta check that out,
Speaker 1: all right, Thanks buddy, This is great, no problem, Chuck.
Speaker 1: Thanks for having me on your program. Of course, it's
Speaker 1: good to see you and glad everyone's doing well and
Speaker 1: hanging in there, and um let's let's stay in better
Speaker 1: touch about it. That would be great, Chuck. I don't
Speaker 1: have any friends anymore because because I just sit in
Speaker 1: my house all the time. What are your social social channels?
Speaker 1: Oh at Justin McElroy on Twitter. That's it our McElroy
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