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Speaker 1: It is Thursday, May twenty six, Jack Waise Happy Hour,

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Speaker 1: and now a guy who believed a stands for Order

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Speaker 1: ten appetizers. J Peace, Yeah, it's not wrong. Welcome man,

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Speaker 1: it's Jack Horn's Happy Hour. Well, I'm J. P. Shadrick. Well,

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Speaker 1: we've got a busy show ahead. O Taser here, Jeff

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Speaker 1: Lockhaman is here. As always, we'll hear from Doug Peterson

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Speaker 1: and Trevor Lawrence to get their reaction to the opening

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Speaker 1: of Order ten appetizers, and we'll go around the National

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Speaker 1: Football League as we always do. Plenty of news around

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Speaker 1: the league, some rules changes in terms of roster numbers

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Speaker 1: for the practice squads and things like that coming up.

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Speaker 1: Jeff Lockhaman with us. Now, what's up, Jeffrey, it's all good.

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Speaker 1: It's all good. JP. By the way, what's wrong with appetizers? Nothing?

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Speaker 1: Especially ten of him. Yeah. That's the best way to

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Speaker 1: go about dinner sometimes is you know, you get a

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Speaker 1: sample order about five or six appetizers for a couple

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Speaker 1: of people, get a side salad, you go, you call

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Speaker 1: it tap us and you can charge two more dollars. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's the same thing. Yeah, that's a good idea. Gonna

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Speaker 1: do I'm a big appetizer guy, especially when it comes

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Speaker 1: to seafood from cocktail shrimp, cocktail, fried shrimp, bang bang shrimp.

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Speaker 1: I feel like I'm on forest from sear tunor. Yeah. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: So we wanted to get to organized team activities are

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Speaker 1: here of course. The only session this week open to

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Speaker 1: the media was Monday, and Doug Peterson Loggs met the

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Speaker 1: media ahead of practice and explains what he wants to

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Speaker 1: see as the offseason program continues. I think just continuing

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Speaker 1: to grow as a football team, coming to other um,

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Speaker 1: that's probably the number the number one thing, you know,

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Speaker 1: really is is just building that cohesiveness again. The players

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Speaker 1: and coaches are getting getting to know each other still,

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Speaker 1: you know, and and um, you know, I think that's

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Speaker 1: a that's a big part of these next you know,

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Speaker 1: three and a half, four weeks whatever we got left,

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Speaker 1: so they have it, um yeah, getting to know each other,

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Speaker 1: taking it from the classroom onto the field. What do

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Speaker 1: you think of the pace of practice and everything the

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Speaker 1: other Well, it was good and it's certainly a different

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Speaker 1: pace than the rookie camp because the rookie camp is

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Speaker 1: much slower, it's more methodical, there's more explanation where when

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Speaker 1: the veterans get out there. And there by the way,

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Speaker 1: there were a few guys that were not in attendance.

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Speaker 1: Remember the O t A s are voluntary, and most

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Speaker 1: of the guys that weren't there had good reasons for

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Speaker 1: not being there. Doesn't matter. But the tempo is much

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Speaker 1: higher compared to the rookie minicamp because that's what you

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Speaker 1: than just the rookies, and so the veterans kind of

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Speaker 1: established the tempo the rookies have to keep up and

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Speaker 1: uh and I really liked the tempo. I liked the

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Speaker 1: way that the coaching happened in practice. There wasn't screaming

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Speaker 1: and yelling. There wasn't a megaphone telling you what period

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Speaker 1: and it's plus two and this and that. It felt serious, relaxed,

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Speaker 1: that's the way it should be in the National Footall League.

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Speaker 1: And it was good to watch some of the guys

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Speaker 1: that we haven't seen in a long period of time,

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Speaker 1: that were hurt last year either working in practice or

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Speaker 1: Cut and moving, running, jumping, the whole deal. Yeah, and

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Speaker 1: And uh. I think the thing that surprised me the

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Speaker 1: defense because the offense is about timing and continuity and rhythm,

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Speaker 1: couple of catches that, uh, seem to have a little

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Speaker 1: camp in preseason? Absolutely you do. I think. I think

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Speaker 1: the timing, the relationships, the communication between quarterback and all

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Speaker 1: And there's a lot of guys that are getting reps

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Speaker 1: which is kind of surprising. And I know we're gonna

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Speaker 1: other guys and other teams in the league that aren't

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Speaker 1: having everybody in attendance like the Jaguars do, which look,

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Speaker 1: the Jaguars had the worst record in football two years

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Speaker 1: like the Ravens. For example, Lamar Jackson is not in

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Speaker 1: need to get every rep possible for two reasons. One,

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Speaker 1: And if you don't take advantage of that when you're

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Speaker 1: no chance. And so it's good to see everybody out there.

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Speaker 1: J P. Shadrick with Jeff Logubun. Let's hear from Trevor Lawrence,

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Speaker 1: Jaguars quarterback, on the start of the organized team activities.

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Speaker 1: We've got a couple of different phases. Now we're back

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Speaker 1: easier to measure because you can, you know, you can

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Speaker 1: having those few weeks though to prepare and really master

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Speaker 1: it up great. The question to Trevor Lawrence here was

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Speaker 1: We're building a camaraderie, we're building towards the season. I mean,

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Speaker 1: passing game coordinator, there's a lot of guys on that

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Speaker 1: provide some great insight into the offense and into the

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Speaker 1: And I think that's that's really a strong, really strong

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Speaker 1: Peterson's staff. The offensive side of the ball has a

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Speaker 1: to call it chef's cooks JP. Okay, the kitchens you

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Speaker 1: it's gonna be fun to watch. I mean, there's there's

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Speaker 1: soak in as much as possible, and the one thing

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Speaker 1: I want to see him out of him JP, because

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Speaker 1: you know that we only saw the first day and

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Speaker 1: there's a long way to go and O T A. S.

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Speaker 1: And and and also you have the mandatory minicamp coming up

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Speaker 1: in the middle of June. But you want to start

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Speaker 1: to see the leadership of Trevor Lawrence, the ownership of

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Speaker 1: That's not something that just happens automatically the first day

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Speaker 1: up on him after two years. We've got to give

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Speaker 1: him in a year three, right, So you're gonna give

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Speaker 1: him every opportunity getting better. But he's got to start

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Speaker 1: to show that he's getting better. Yeah, and where do

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Speaker 1: you play him? Is he's still a true outsideline? But

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Speaker 1: I think that's great question. I think that's a great question.

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Speaker 1: And I think that he's been an outside guy. I

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Speaker 1: mean he's outside guy. L s U outside guys, rookie,

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Speaker 1: y're outside guy year two. He doesn't strike me as

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Speaker 1: ground in this. No no, no, no, no, no no no,

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Speaker 1: I'm thinking out loud here JP and that Okay. The

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Speaker 1: only other position that you would maybe playing at would

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Speaker 1: be at an inside linebacking position. But they're stacked there

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Speaker 1: right now. Yeah, I don't know. I think that's interesting.

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Speaker 1: So I think you sit there and you go, okay, Well,

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Speaker 1: first of all, you need to find a way for

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Speaker 1: him to get better at the outside linebacking position. Boy,

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Speaker 1: wouldn't it be great if he could cross train where

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Speaker 1: he could be one of those guys that could play

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Speaker 1: inside and outside. And then also you have to be

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Speaker 1: a core for special team or when I say core

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Speaker 1: for you know your four main special teams kickoff, kickoff return,

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Speaker 1: punt and punt return. That that's that's your core for

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Speaker 1: special teams. Okay, And when you say he needs to

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Speaker 1: be a core four special teamer, that means that he's

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Speaker 1: on every one of those units. Okay. He has the speed,

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Speaker 1: he has the power, he has the agility to play

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Speaker 1: on every one of those units. So you would love

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Speaker 1: to find or or you would love to see that

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Speaker 1: he has the ability to be a core for guy

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Speaker 1: and then continues to work at his craft and outside

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Speaker 1: linebacker and finds a way that he can contribute. Putting ahead,

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Speaker 1: we'll hear from Doug Peterson again on what Trevor Lawrence

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Speaker 1: in the offense should look like at the end of

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Speaker 1: Margarite Festival. They got mescow and and Tequilla probably you're

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Speaker 1: thinking out I'm just thinking out loud here, you just wondering.

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Speaker 1: It's kind of as salt or no salt, no salt.

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Speaker 1: I agree, yeah, no salt. You know, we get enough

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Speaker 1: Funny to come. We're back in a moment. We'll hear

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Speaker 1: from Doug Peterson as Jaguars Happy Hour on the Jaguars

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Speaker 1: Digital Network, Jaguars fans, you know, for him just again

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Speaker 1: staying comfortable and getting more comfortable with the offense. Um.

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Speaker 1: You know, I really like his his dialogue with you know,

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Speaker 1: with coach McCoy, impressed on myself and things that he

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Speaker 1: likes and doesn't like him. Um, I just want to

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Speaker 1: see that that growth in him here as we you know,

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Speaker 1: sort of wind down you know the off season and

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Speaker 1: Europe for training camp. But you know, he's been he's

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Speaker 1: been focus, he's been here, he's he's been attentive, he's

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Speaker 1: done a good job on the football field. He's a leader.

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Speaker 1: Uh and those are the things that we want to

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Speaker 1: continue now, you know as we hit entertaining. That's head

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Speaker 1: coach Doug Peterson earlier this week, welcome back, it's Jaguars

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Speaker 1: Happy Hour, JP Shatrick with Jeff Logman, Joe Fortunado, Brent

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Speaker 1: re Were along with US sand Glad gr with us

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Speaker 1: Son Tintin, XL A M and Jaguars dot Com and

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Speaker 1: the Jags. Social media channels Twitter, which Logs is using

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Speaker 1: right now. Facebook, he might be using that more and YouTube?

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Speaker 1: Do you think I use Facebook more? Yeah, you're you're

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Speaker 1: of that um you know um experience of life, Yes,

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Speaker 1: experience of life. What are you trying to say? You

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Speaker 1: have that age? That's all. That's what I'm saying. That's

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Speaker 1: all I'm saying. That's it. Is there an age classification?

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Speaker 1: So yes? So Twitter is for a certain age, Instagram's

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Speaker 1: for an age Facebook Facebook is a different age. I

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Speaker 1: think there's a statistic are you? Are you the metrics guy?

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Speaker 1: I'm just I don't know what those metrics are, but

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Speaker 1: I'm guessing that. Okay, So give me give me your idea,

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Speaker 1: give me your idea of the age categories of these

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Speaker 1: three different social media platforms. So I would say, like Snapchat,

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Speaker 1: which I don't have anything to do with, is super

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Speaker 1: young like teenagers to you know, college kind of right.

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Speaker 1: Twitter is probably like college too, you know my age

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Speaker 1: and how old? Is that old enough? And then and

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Speaker 1: I think the Facebook is like forty two infinity. What

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Speaker 1: about Instagram? It depends on if you like taking photos

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Speaker 1: or not. I think that's probably younger, trends younger, that's

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Speaker 1: my guests. I don't know his view of the world.

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Speaker 1: What do you think? So so what would Joe be since, uh,

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Speaker 1: you know, Facebook goes to my age? Hey, Joe is

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Speaker 1: a little older than me. He's he still uses pony

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Speaker 1: Express popular mechanics, right exactly. It comes in the mail,

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Speaker 1: a JP, you know what you're getting old now? Okay,

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Speaker 1: so you're starting a transition into this Facebook. I'm not

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Speaker 1: getting old category. I'm just old. Let you know your

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Speaker 1: Facebook age. That's what it is. Man. Life happens. Reality,

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Speaker 1: life happens. Reality hits your the face sometimes. So the

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Speaker 1: question there for Doug Peterson was what does this offense

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Speaker 1: need to look like at the end of O t

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Speaker 1: A s like, what is the end? What do you

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Speaker 1: want it? When? Will you be kind of happy? And

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Speaker 1: that was his answer there. And I think that there's

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Speaker 1: a there's a there's a lot of ways to measure

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Speaker 1: success with an offense, but it's hard to measure success

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Speaker 1: when you're when you're not really having a true measuring

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Speaker 1: stick to the measuring you know what I mean. And

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Speaker 1: that's why sometimes the off season can always be a

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Speaker 1: little you can mislead you sometimes for for lack of

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Speaker 1: a better way of describing it. But the one thing

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Speaker 1: that you want to see with the offense is that

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Speaker 1: the components that you have to start gaining a strong

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Speaker 1: understanding of the offense to where and what I mean

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Speaker 1: by that is that people are more functional when they're

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Speaker 1: confident and in the know of what they're supposed to do.

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Speaker 1: Athletes can perform better when they're not thinking about what

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Speaker 1: they're supposed to do. They're just performing, they're just reacting,

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Speaker 1: they're just being athletic. Quarterbacks can perform better when things

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Speaker 1: become second nature. So all of the components of the

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Speaker 1: offense work better with great experience and great repetition. And

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Speaker 1: that's what you're trying to gain in the off season. Now,

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Speaker 1: at the end of an all season, are you gonna

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Speaker 1: be able to fix up great and say, okay, you

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Speaker 1: know we're you know if you if you're Doug Peterson ball,

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Speaker 1: you know, we're hoping we will get to level ten

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Speaker 1: at the end the conclusion of the all season. But well,

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Speaker 1: we got to like level eight and a half. Is

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Speaker 1: there a way to measure that? I think that's an

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Speaker 1: interesting question, But I don't think there's a way to

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Speaker 1: truly measure it because you haven't and the coaches haven't

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Speaker 1: seen these people perform, So what's the expectation? So I

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Speaker 1: think in a lot of ways, their vention venturing into

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Speaker 1: the great unknown, and that they're not sure what a

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Speaker 1: lot of these players can do because they haven't seen

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Speaker 1: him in person. They've watched film, but some of them

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Speaker 1: are very young and haven't been put in great positions

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Speaker 1: to have success yet. So I think that that's a

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Speaker 1: that's a it's a very open ended question that has

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Speaker 1: a lot of different ways to answer it. Yeah, you

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Speaker 1: got to see what a player's capabilities are before you

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Speaker 1: can really craft a scheme or something around him. And

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Speaker 1: here's a here's a perfect example. Okay, Travis c t

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Speaker 1: n Yes, Okay, you want you want to get him involved? Right,

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Speaker 1: He's the first round draft pick last year who was

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Speaker 1: unable to play because he ended up having a Liz

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Speaker 1: frank was essentially it's kind of a midfoot sprain. He

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Speaker 1: had surgery, surgery to fix it. Now he's back, he's

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Speaker 1: been cleared to do everything. Okay, but what is your

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Speaker 1: expectation for him? Well, he's a high first round pick,

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Speaker 1: so your expectation is is that he's going to be

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Speaker 1: a significant contributor to offense. But the reality is that

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Speaker 1: you haven't seen him yet play and at the pro level. Okay,

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Speaker 1: So where where do you expect him to be when

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Speaker 1: you haven't seen him perform yet? Hm? And I think

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Speaker 1: that that's part of what you need to find out

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Speaker 1: this year. Okay. You you would love to have this

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Speaker 1: great role for Travis Etian. For example, last year with

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Speaker 1: urban Meyer and the offensive staff they had they had

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Speaker 1: this vision for Travis E t N of being this

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Speaker 1: X factor that he's not just a running back that

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Speaker 1: you hand the ball off to. He's he's doing routes.

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Speaker 1: So you got Jay Robbin the backfield and you have

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Speaker 1: Travis E. T N split out why So essentially kind

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Speaker 1: of like a tight end where you get a mismatch

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Speaker 1: where E t N can get him that you can

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Speaker 1: get him in space and get him against the linebacker

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Speaker 1: who can't cover a guy who runs four four? Well,

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Speaker 1: is that the same vision that that Press Taylor and

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Speaker 1: Doug Peterson and Mike McCoy and and Jim Bob Cooder.

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Speaker 1: Is that the same vision that they have for Travis E.

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Speaker 1: T N and this offense. I don't know, and you

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Speaker 1: can't tell from watching one practice so far. This is

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Speaker 1: something I think that's going to involve. But I think

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Speaker 1: it's an interesting question. Where do they see him at

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Speaker 1: and where is the expectation for him to perform at.

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Speaker 1: Because he's a first round pick, we all kind of

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Speaker 1: have these high expectations, but the reality is is that

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Speaker 1: we haven't seen him perform yet. So can we can

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Speaker 1: we have a reasonable expectation for him? I mean if

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Speaker 1: I think we all have a certain level, but where

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Speaker 1: is that level and what's and what's reason able? I

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Speaker 1: don't know. You know, it seems like at least the

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Speaker 1: one day we saw him, there was no issues with

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Speaker 1: the foot. Yeah look good, yeah, look, I mean look

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Speaker 1: he looked like he was moving. Okay, did he look

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Speaker 1: like put it this way? Did we look at him

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Speaker 1: and go, boy, that guy is really special. Did you

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Speaker 1: get that impression? I mean, you know he's he's got something. No,

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Speaker 1: no, no no, no, JP, did your eyes when you watched him.

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Speaker 1: I mean, considering what they're doing out there exactly exactly,

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Speaker 1: And I'm not I'm not trying to say that that's

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Speaker 1: a negative. I'm just trying to say that at this point,

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Speaker 1: what with what they're doing and with I guess you

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Speaker 1: could say how much he is opening it up, you're

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Speaker 1: not You're not seeing where you go, Wow, he's not

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Speaker 1: like shaking five guys and running eight yards. You're not

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Speaker 1: gonna see that until real games happened. So but I mean,

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Speaker 1: at some point you're gonna want to see that when

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Speaker 1: it's live. But I think it's a It's interesting because

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Speaker 1: you know there's so many different components offense that you

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Speaker 1: sit there and you go okay, then you have a

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Speaker 1: vision or you have this thing imprinted in your mind

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Speaker 1: about how guys can contribute. Evan Ingram, okay, we're number

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Speaker 1: seventeen when you When I first saw it, I was like,

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Speaker 1: who's that guy wearing seventeen? Got big seventeen, I mean,

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Speaker 1: and so I looked at the back of the jersey

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Speaker 1: and I saw Ingram Ingram, Who's Ingram? Oh yeah? And

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Speaker 1: I was like, he got a haircut. So Evan Ingram

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Speaker 1: got a haircut got me fulled. Okay, look and and

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Speaker 1: he's not a real big guy. And fact, if he was,

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Speaker 1: if he was over working out with the wide receivers,

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Speaker 1: and if he stood next to Lavisco Chanalt, you go, dude,

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Speaker 1: check out the size of those two wide receivers. But

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Speaker 1: when you see him over in the tight end group,

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Speaker 1: you go, is he with the right group? I mean,

641
00:35:50,239 --> 00:35:51,920
Speaker 1: because he's not a real big guy, but I think

642
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Speaker 1: he's gonna be very good for a quarterback. Dan Arnold

643
00:35:56,040 --> 00:36:00,200
Speaker 1: looks good. Dan Arnold looked really good, I thought. So

644
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Speaker 1: here's another thing we mentioned earlier. Defensive line. It's hard

645
00:36:03,239 --> 00:36:05,720
Speaker 1: to tell, you know that moving guys around. That's certainly

646
00:36:05,800 --> 00:36:08,280
Speaker 1: the case on the offensive line too. We haven't touched

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Speaker 1: on these guys yet. Um, but there's a couple of

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Speaker 1: things that you you see Brandon Sheriff for the first

649
00:36:14,480 --> 00:36:19,200
Speaker 1: time in person, impressive. Yeah, well, look, these guys are impressive.

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Speaker 1: I think Walker Little's trimmed some weight down a little bit.

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00:36:21,440 --> 00:36:24,880
Speaker 1: Looks like well, and what we what we saw on Monday,

652
00:36:24,920 --> 00:36:29,600
Speaker 1: because Cam Robinson wasn't there for whatever reason, Uh doesn't matter,

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Speaker 1: but so you know, we the expected competition at right

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Speaker 1: tackle with Walker Little and Juan Taylor Walker Little was

655
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Speaker 1: playing left because Cam Robinson was not there at practice,

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Speaker 1: and uh, Tyler Shatley ran with the ones at center.

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00:36:44,160 --> 00:36:47,719
Speaker 1: You know, your draft pick Fortner from Kentucky. You know,

658
00:36:47,760 --> 00:36:51,160
Speaker 1: watched him practice, you know, got an up close personal

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Speaker 1: look at him. And then oh, by the way, I'll

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Speaker 1: get to the game film that I watched in a minute. Yeah,

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00:36:57,719 --> 00:36:59,800
Speaker 1: but in practice, there was a lot of guys that

662
00:37:00,000 --> 00:37:03,080
Speaker 1: are lined up in position that they're probably not going

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Speaker 1: to be lined up at once you start doing stuff

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Speaker 1: for real. So uh, but I will tell you if

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00:37:10,760 --> 00:37:14,200
Speaker 1: Joan Taylor better have a a little bit of a

666
00:37:14,280 --> 00:37:20,880
Speaker 1: different mentality this year, because this competition for right tackle

667
00:37:21,120 --> 00:37:25,120
Speaker 1: is not drummed up. This is real and he is

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00:37:25,120 --> 00:37:27,560
Speaker 1: going to be fighting for a job. When I say

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Speaker 1: a job, starting job, okay, not necessarily a roster spot.

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Speaker 1: I don't want to I don't want to get you

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00:37:32,040 --> 00:37:35,239
Speaker 1: confused again, Jim, and I think that that's gonna be

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Speaker 1: interesting to watch. Tyler Shatley, I think is going to

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Speaker 1: be the starting center until he's not. And at what

674
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Speaker 1: point will that be. I don't know. I thought earlier

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00:37:47,960 --> 00:37:51,400
Speaker 1: that it might take some time. But Fortner is a

676
00:37:51,520 --> 00:37:55,600
Speaker 1: very smart player watched the film on him this week?

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00:37:56,120 --> 00:37:59,400
Speaker 1: What'd you watch? What you watch for? If you're gonna watch,

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Speaker 1: If you are gonna watch one Kentucky game and you

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Speaker 1: wanted to see Fortner go against the best of the

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Speaker 1: best in the SEC, which game would you want? Well,

681
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Speaker 1: considering this, Kentucky is in the SEC East, which means

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Speaker 1: every year they have to play the Georgia Bulldogs. Georgia

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00:38:17,120 --> 00:38:18,759
Speaker 1: had the best defense, So I would want to watch

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Speaker 1: the game. That's the one. And I went and watched

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Speaker 1: that game because that's the best defensive line. Mean, you're

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Speaker 1: you're you're essentially watching Kentucky play against an NFL future

687
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Speaker 1: NFL caliber defensive line. Okay, three of those guys got

688
00:38:35,600 --> 00:38:38,879
Speaker 1: drafted extremely high in the first all of them round

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Speaker 1: pick five, first round picks. Five on the defense, three

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00:38:41,960 --> 00:38:46,560
Speaker 1: on the defensive line. Right, and here's the crazy thing. Okay,

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00:38:46,719 --> 00:38:49,799
Speaker 1: here's really what's crazy. JP the best one that they

692
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Speaker 1: got up front in Athens. It's still in Athens, were night.

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00:38:57,040 --> 00:39:00,799
Speaker 1: That's crazy. How did heat fair like against the I

694
00:39:00,840 --> 00:39:04,000
Speaker 1: thought he did really well there. Now, there was a

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Speaker 1: couple instances where Jalen Carter okay threw him a little

696
00:39:07,880 --> 00:39:14,359
Speaker 1: bit happens, it does happen. But the overall performance that

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Speaker 1: he had in that game, I thought put it this way.

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Speaker 1: After I watched that game, it changed my thinking about

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Speaker 1: when he could become the starter after watching that. He's strong,

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00:39:29,800 --> 00:39:35,640
Speaker 1: he's aware, he's smart, He's got very good balance, rarely,

701
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Speaker 1: if ever on the ground. He uh plays the game,

702
00:39:40,200 --> 00:39:43,960
Speaker 1: I think with great adaptability. So in other words, when

703
00:39:44,560 --> 00:39:46,920
Speaker 1: and Basselli was one of the best guys at this

704
00:39:47,760 --> 00:39:51,560
Speaker 1: and because Tony always understood what the player that he

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Speaker 1: was going against was or was not. For example, if

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Speaker 1: he was going against a guy that had great power, okay,

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00:39:59,200 --> 00:40:02,000
Speaker 1: he's not gonna try to finesse the guy. He knew

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Speaker 1: that the guy was gonna play with power. It's it's

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Speaker 1: understanding your opponent. When you watch Fortner played the game,

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Speaker 1: especially against Georgia, you could tell that he understood the assignment.

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Speaker 1: He understood the players that he was assigned to block,

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Speaker 1: so he knew how to approach them. And I thought

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Speaker 1: he did a very good job. And it wasn't perfect

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Speaker 1: because Georgia's got some really good players up there, but

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Speaker 1: I thought it was an excellent performance. And here's the thing.

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Speaker 1: I think that was a little bit surprising in that

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Speaker 1: game because you're watching Georgia and Kentucky play, here's a

718
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Speaker 1: great opportunity at watching Trayvon Walker. He's on that team.

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Speaker 1: He had a quiet game in that game. I mean,

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Speaker 1: he was okay, but it wasn't one of those games

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Speaker 1: where you go, wow, you know that guy, he was

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Speaker 1: really good. It was just kind of an okay game.

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Speaker 1: But I will I will say Fortner had a had

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Speaker 1: an excellent game and it made me and I liked

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Speaker 1: the size of him when he blocked for the Georgia Bulldogs,

726
00:41:01,920 --> 00:41:04,319
Speaker 1: which is a player that sometimes which by the way,

727
00:41:04,360 --> 00:41:08,200
Speaker 1: he was the what overall pick for the Philadelphia Eagles

728
00:41:09,760 --> 00:41:12,960
Speaker 1: and what's his name? Ninety nine? It was which went

729
00:41:13,000 --> 00:41:16,839
Speaker 1: to Green Bay and then he had ninety nine Jordan

730
00:41:19,280 --> 00:41:24,120
Speaker 1: and Okay and then who went to Green Bay late

731
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Speaker 1: in the first round when everybody was thinking they would

732
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Speaker 1: take a wide receiver because they want to do appease

733
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Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers, but they didn't. They took number ninety five

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Speaker 1: from the Georgia Bulldogs. The other defensive tackle, DeVante Wyatt

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Speaker 1: Okay Partner did a very good job on both of them.

736
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Speaker 1: But man, when Jordan Davis wants to play. Sometimes in

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Speaker 1: games he can tear everybody up. But he didn't. He

738
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Speaker 1: did not against fort and Fortner handling. That's good news,

739
00:41:49,920 --> 00:41:52,680
Speaker 1: very good because he's gonna be playing. I like that

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Speaker 1: every week. Um, we'll come back in a moment. Well,

741
00:41:55,400 --> 00:41:57,600
Speaker 1: I look around the National Football League. Also here from

742
00:41:57,920 --> 00:42:01,920
Speaker 1: Jaguars GM Trent Baulky with John Osier. Earlier today on

743
00:42:01,960 --> 00:42:05,520
Speaker 1: the Ozone podcast, there's Jaguars Happy Hour on the Jaguars

744
00:42:05,600 --> 00:42:16,400
Speaker 1: Digital Network. As evaluators, we can't get caught up in

745
00:42:16,400 --> 00:42:19,200
Speaker 1: in the xs and ohs. You know, we're caught up

746
00:42:19,200 --> 00:42:21,799
Speaker 1: in the Jimmy's and Joe's. If you will, it's nothing.

747
00:42:21,840 --> 00:42:23,520
Speaker 1: You say a lot, You bring a player in and

748
00:42:23,560 --> 00:42:25,719
Speaker 1: it's up to the coach to using right. You know,

749
00:42:26,160 --> 00:42:29,239
Speaker 1: one phrase I you know, I take from coach Parcels

750
00:42:29,280 --> 00:42:31,799
Speaker 1: all the time, as you can't coach the team when

751
00:42:31,800 --> 00:42:35,319
Speaker 1: you're a GM or you're an evaluator. It's not your job,

752
00:42:35,360 --> 00:42:38,279
Speaker 1: it's not your role. Let's let the coaches coach and

753
00:42:38,400 --> 00:42:41,160
Speaker 1: find players that fit what they want to do from

754
00:42:41,200 --> 00:42:44,799
Speaker 1: a schematic standpoint, you know, and and trust that once

755
00:42:44,840 --> 00:42:47,239
Speaker 1: you've given them a player that can do certain things,

756
00:42:47,239 --> 00:42:50,040
Speaker 1: they're gonna ask that that player does those things and

757
00:42:50,120 --> 00:42:52,600
Speaker 1: keep them away from things that he maybe doesn't do well.

758
00:42:52,920 --> 00:42:56,360
Speaker 1: And that's I mean again, it's just the collaborator effort

759
00:42:56,440 --> 00:42:58,640
Speaker 1: that you go through to make sure you're getting the

760
00:42:58,719 --> 00:43:02,000
Speaker 1: right players that fit your your your organization from a

761
00:43:02,040 --> 00:43:06,520
Speaker 1: cultural standpoint and a physical standpoint. That is general manager

762
00:43:06,560 --> 00:43:10,400
Speaker 1: Trent Bulky on the ozone podcast earlier today, Available now

763
00:43:10,480 --> 00:43:13,279
Speaker 1: on Jaguars dot com. Click the podcast link at the

764
00:43:13,280 --> 00:43:16,400
Speaker 1: top of the page slugs or subscribe on the official

765
00:43:16,520 --> 00:43:21,720
Speaker 1: Jaguars podcast network on iHeart Radio, iTunes, Spotify, or wherever

766
00:43:21,760 --> 00:43:26,440
Speaker 1: you download your pods and leave us some comments and

767
00:43:26,600 --> 00:43:28,920
Speaker 1: a five star rating while you're at it. Why not

768
00:43:29,040 --> 00:43:32,080
Speaker 1: did that fox start be good? An interesting comment there

769
00:43:32,080 --> 00:43:34,440
Speaker 1: by Trent Balking And one thing that I would I

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00:43:34,480 --> 00:43:38,480
Speaker 1: would uh because he talked about how when you when

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00:43:38,480 --> 00:43:42,200
Speaker 1: you give a coach a player, if you want to

772
00:43:42,239 --> 00:43:45,000
Speaker 1: make sure that he's doing the things that he does best,

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00:43:45,719 --> 00:43:49,000
Speaker 1: which is true. But the one thing that I would

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00:43:49,000 --> 00:43:52,560
Speaker 1: add to that and that sometimes what happens in the

775
00:43:52,600 --> 00:43:58,439
Speaker 1: process of working with a new player, there's a discovery

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00:43:58,680 --> 00:44:01,080
Speaker 1: part of it. When I say there's a discovery part

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00:44:01,080 --> 00:44:03,400
Speaker 1: of it, you may learn something about the player that

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00:44:03,480 --> 00:44:07,040
Speaker 1: you didn't know from working firsthand with him. You may

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00:44:07,320 --> 00:44:11,439
Speaker 1: discover that he also has a skill set that might

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00:44:11,480 --> 00:44:14,160
Speaker 1: be good at doing some other things that might be

781
00:44:14,280 --> 00:44:17,160
Speaker 1: doing might be doing things on top of what you

782
00:44:17,239 --> 00:44:20,200
Speaker 1: evaluate and say, hey, look he really does X. Well.

783
00:44:20,280 --> 00:44:23,080
Speaker 1: Look he also might do X and Y and then

784
00:44:23,120 --> 00:44:27,480
Speaker 1: F really well. So you could expand or even you

785
00:44:27,520 --> 00:44:30,480
Speaker 1: would understand that maybe you thought he does X very

786
00:44:30,520 --> 00:44:34,839
Speaker 1: well and what you envisioned him doing for you, well,

787
00:44:34,880 --> 00:44:37,160
Speaker 1: then you get him and you say, well he can

788
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Speaker 1: do X, but he does why better. I Mean, sometimes

789
00:44:40,800 --> 00:44:43,960
Speaker 1: there's things that you don't know about a prospect that

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00:44:44,000 --> 00:44:47,319
Speaker 1: you learn while working with him, and so I would

791
00:44:47,320 --> 00:44:50,440
Speaker 1: add that to Trent Balking. That's part of what the

792
00:44:50,440 --> 00:44:55,000
Speaker 1: coaching staff role is because and when he says it

793
00:44:55,040 --> 00:44:58,879
Speaker 1: has to be a what did he say? The term

794
00:44:59,400 --> 00:45:04,880
Speaker 1: collaborate of effort very true because it's not just about Okay,

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00:45:04,920 --> 00:45:07,080
Speaker 1: here's the player and he has to do this. The

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00:45:07,120 --> 00:45:08,800
Speaker 1: coaches also have to be able to look at the

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00:45:08,840 --> 00:45:11,479
Speaker 1: player and say, look, we really like what he does

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00:45:11,600 --> 00:45:14,120
Speaker 1: and what you kind of envisioned, but we also like him.

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Speaker 1: In this role, it's up to the coaches to end

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00:45:16,320 --> 00:45:19,200
Speaker 1: up making that decision. Let's take our weekly look. If

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00:45:19,200 --> 00:45:22,320
Speaker 1: you're watching on Jaguars dot Com or jack social media

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00:45:22,440 --> 00:45:25,200
Speaker 1: outside of t I a a bank field at the

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00:45:25,320 --> 00:45:31,359
Speaker 1: Football Performance Center construction process. There's some walls going up,

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00:45:31,440 --> 00:45:34,600
Speaker 1: they're moving some more dirt around. They're digging a couple

805
00:45:34,600 --> 00:45:37,759
Speaker 1: of big holes in the ground for apparently pools in

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00:45:37,880 --> 00:45:42,200
Speaker 1: the one part of the center and uh, we're on track. Man.

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00:45:42,280 --> 00:45:46,200
Speaker 1: There we go um training camp, they'll be ready to roll.

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00:45:46,560 --> 00:45:49,520
Speaker 1: That's ah, that's a lot of work, a lot of work.

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Speaker 1: And I can tell you this, they're working incredibly hard JP.

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00:45:54,000 --> 00:45:56,520
Speaker 1: I don't know if they're I mean they work from

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Speaker 1: early in the morning until well into the evening weekends.

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Speaker 1: There they've been going and there's a lot of people

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Speaker 1: putting a lot of hours in to make that happen.

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Speaker 1: It's looking good. Looking forward to the final product as well,

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Speaker 1: and not this coming training camp, but the training camp

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00:46:14,280 --> 00:46:19,719
Speaker 1: after and renderings are are really neat. It's gonna be

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Speaker 1: one of the best in the league. And there's uh,

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Speaker 1: there's some great ones in the league. I remember years

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00:46:26,880 --> 00:46:30,840
Speaker 1: ago when when I went to the Atlanta Falcons facility

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Speaker 1: and the Atlanta Falcons would I mean they were on

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Speaker 1: the cutting edge. They had this new expanse of facility

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Speaker 1: that when you looked out, it looked out on the

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Speaker 1: giant expanse of fields, and then you had all of

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Speaker 1: these apartments wrapped around the field down at the bottom,

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Speaker 1: Like what the world is all that? Well, that's where

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00:46:52,000 --> 00:46:55,920
Speaker 1: they all stayed for training camp. They had housing for

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Speaker 1: players for staff, and I was like, wow, that's different.

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Speaker 1: And then we had the opportunity not long ago to

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Speaker 1: see what the Minnesota Vikings did. Wow, that's impressive. This

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Speaker 1: will be the arms race has entered the NFL. That's right,

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Speaker 1: and the Jags are in it now, which is a

832
00:47:14,840 --> 00:47:17,960
Speaker 1: good thing. Let's go around the NFL quickly. Some big

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Speaker 1: nuggets from around the league from the Associated Press. The

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Speaker 1: NFL said Wednesday it will appeal a ruling denying a

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Speaker 1: request to move John Gruden's lawsuit against the league from

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Speaker 1: a public courtroom into a closed door arbitration, so it

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Speaker 1: stays in the public court. Gruden's lawsuit accused of the

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Speaker 1: NFL of leaking his emails to force him to resign

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Speaker 1: last October, So there you go. Yeah, the league is

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00:47:42,400 --> 00:47:46,040
Speaker 1: not happy about that decision. I can I can assure

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00:47:46,080 --> 00:47:49,360
Speaker 1: you of that, they were hoping that it would be

842
00:47:49,440 --> 00:47:52,960
Speaker 1: moved behind closed doors. Colin Kaepernick got to work out

843
00:47:53,000 --> 00:47:55,799
Speaker 1: with the Las Vegas Raiders yesterday. Nowhere yet on out

844
00:47:55,840 --> 00:47:58,440
Speaker 1: when he hasn't played in the NFL and over five years.

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Speaker 1: He had a free agent visit with the Seahawks and

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Speaker 1: may have seventeen through in front of some NFL scouts

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00:48:03,920 --> 00:48:07,200
Speaker 1: at halftime of the Michigan spring game this past April.

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Speaker 1: Of course, Jim Harbaugh is there last played with the Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's gonna be an interesting situation to watch. Could uh

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Speaker 1: could a team? I mean, if I were to pick

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Speaker 1: he's I view him as a running quarterback. I mean,

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Speaker 1: wouldn't a great fit be Baltimore behind Lamar Jackson? I mean,

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Speaker 1: wouldn't the scheme fit him perfectly if he were to

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Speaker 1: have If he can still run like I mean, if

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Speaker 1: if he could do the same things that he once did,

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Speaker 1: Can he still run like that? I don't know, I

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Speaker 1: don't know. Five years out, it's a long time. Some

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Speaker 1: leagal rule changes. Players designated for return from the reserve

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Speaker 1: injured list are now four games not three to come

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Speaker 1: back on the on the regular roster. It was the

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Speaker 1: number of changed to you. You're allowed I think eight

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Speaker 1: eight eight players that you can bring back from men

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Speaker 1: who to reserve. Practice squads are now sixteen players up

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Speaker 1: from fourteen. You can elevate individual players from the squad

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Speaker 1: to the game day roster a maximum of three times

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Speaker 1: per season now rather than two. Yeah, and and and

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Speaker 1: then that's smart. You should be able to do that.

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Speaker 1: I mean, if you've got them on practice squad, why

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Speaker 1: would you not have the ability to utilize them for

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Speaker 1: for competitions. I mean, it just makes no sense. And

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Speaker 1: here's the other reality. The league. The original design of

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Speaker 1: the expanded practice squads was was a reaction to COVID. COVID. Okay,

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Speaker 1: well now that I want to say, they are beyond COVID,

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Speaker 1: but they're still dealing with some of the the implication

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Speaker 1: ramifications of COVID. It's still there. But here's the reality.

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Speaker 1: There's two other leagues under spring. The league wants to

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Speaker 1: make sure that they keep more roster spots open for players.

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Speaker 1: I'll do it for our program today. Brent Reabert, Joe Fortunado,

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Speaker 1: that's Jeff Lagerman. I'm j P. Shadrick enjoy your Memorial

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Speaker 1: Day weekend. We'll see you next time as Jaguars Happy

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