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Speaker 1: Welcome to the NFL Player Second Acts Podcast.

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Speaker 2: I'm Peanuts Tillman.

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Speaker 1: Gandalf the Gray. What's up, baby, it's my guy, Romanhopper

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Speaker 1: right here.

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Speaker 3: Man, this is the name of the week, I guess,

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Speaker 3: and I appreciate it. So let's just get right into

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Speaker 3: this thing. First and foremost, let's thank all of our

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Speaker 3: listeners and all of our viewers out there. Wherever you

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Speaker 3: but leave a couple likes in there too. Man, appreciate it, man,

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Speaker 3: and peanup. And I'm really excited about this one. I

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Speaker 3: think it's all dbs, but clearly it's only one dB

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Speaker 3: on the show today. And then we got two corners,

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Speaker 3: So we're gonna separate this thing and we're gonna get

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Speaker 3: down to it. Let's tell you exactly why, because I

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Speaker 3: didn't know up until this point that corners are born

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Speaker 3: and DB's I guess, we just are made and later

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Speaker 3: on in life.

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Speaker 2: So here we go.

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Speaker 3: He was once known as and probably still is as

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Speaker 3: the Ageless Wonder. He's one of the greatest cornerbacks to

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Speaker 3: ever play the game. He played twenty years in the NFL,

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Speaker 3: all with the team that is currently known as the

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Speaker 3: Washington Commanders. He was inducted into the Pro Football Hall

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Speaker 3: of Fame in two thousand and eight. He's the associate

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Speaker 3: athletic director at George Mason University and he has impacted

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Speaker 3: thousands upon thousands of youth and young people through his

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Speaker 3: Darryl Green Youth Life Foundation. Everybody, let's give a warm

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Speaker 3: welcome to mister Darryll Green.

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Speaker 2: That's why I wanted him to do the intro because

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Speaker 2: I wouldn't didn't know you did that was that was

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Speaker 2: so good. That's what DB's do. That's what DB's do.

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Speaker 2: Now quarters Yeah.

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Speaker 4: I didn't know what DB's do, but now I know.

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Speaker 2: See there it is.

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Speaker 3: I'm glad I was able to get you guys to

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Speaker 3: understand you.

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Speaker 2: I appreciate we do.

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Speaker 3: I would like to know this before we go to

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Speaker 3: the real questions. All right, Daryl, you gotta explain to me.

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Speaker 3: All right, So how are corners born and DB's are

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Speaker 3: or not?

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Speaker 2: Because I like this.

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Speaker 4: I like there's certain things that just are uniquely God given,

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Speaker 4: uh in their expression, and you can't just go and

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Speaker 4: make that. You know you just can't go. Oh, I

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Speaker 4: want to make Let me make one now, the real

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Speaker 4: cornerbacks with the footwork and the different Actually, i'll give

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Speaker 4: you one that people could probably identify with. You're in

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Speaker 4: New York, Oakland. They're all Oakland, Philadelphia. They are not

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Speaker 4: the city of brotherly love in that stadium, they're not.

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Speaker 4: They are the city of you. Better put your hat on,

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Speaker 4: you better stay away from these people. Okay. So when

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Speaker 4: you're dealing with with that and the guy caught the

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Speaker 4: touchdown in the end zone, spent the ball, everybody's screaming.

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Speaker 4: They send stuff to you, not nice stuff, and you

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Speaker 4: you you walking out of that and you have to

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Speaker 4: come back out on that field and then guess what

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Speaker 4: they might do it again. You have to be born.

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Speaker 4: There's something on the inside of you that just just

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Speaker 4: just it only lasts till I got to the sideline,

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Speaker 4: don't I don't remember that. You can't. I can't train

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Speaker 4: you for that. I can't train you for that. There's

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Speaker 4: something about they gonna kick your behind and you come

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Speaker 4: back and you kick theirs nine more times. But so

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Speaker 4: and then the footwork and the mentality, the real, the

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Speaker 4: real cornerbacks and my humble opinion, I'm five eight and

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Speaker 4: three quarters, thank you very much, and I do want

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Speaker 4: my three quarters. And uh, you know I was I

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Speaker 4: was drafted first round, twenty eight pick. It was twenty

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Speaker 4: eight teams back then, and so you know, they probably

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Speaker 4: wouldn't pick me today. You know, all you're too little,

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Speaker 4: you can't play. I don't know what they would say,

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Speaker 4: but they said a lot of that before when I

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Speaker 4: was a kid. But at the end of the day,

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Speaker 4: when I came out there and played, I didn't play

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Speaker 4: accord into their thinking. I didn't play according to what

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Speaker 4: the coach had in mind. I played what you call

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Speaker 4: result nique because I couldn't play the technique. What's the technique, coach,

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Speaker 4: ah Man, I tell you what. Let's just let's do this.

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Speaker 4: Let's go with what's the end result? Bible says, run

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Speaker 4: the race to win, running a card into the rules.

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Speaker 4: I'm not gonna hold his jersey, not gonna pull his

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Speaker 4: face mask. But I probably won't be doing it in

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Speaker 4: the technique that you say, but I'll do it in

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Speaker 4: the result nique that you want. And so that's why

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Speaker 4: I think that you know, for me, I knew that

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Speaker 4: I wasn't made by somebody. I wasn't a prototypical size

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Speaker 4: or whatever whatever, And so I think I was born

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Speaker 4: in a way that even if you do get me,

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Speaker 4: I'm still good. I'll see you the next play. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: I feel like I can get it done. I'll get

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Speaker 4: it done. If you beat me a thousand times, I'm

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Speaker 4: still gonna come back. And I'm not embarrassed and I'm

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Speaker 4: not scared. So that's a little bit of you know,

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Speaker 4: and I think that's for some other people in places

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Speaker 4: and different skills, and but that's how I've always kind

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Speaker 1: I think that's like the David and Goliath mentality to know.

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Speaker 1: And what I mean by that is if if David

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Speaker 1: fought Goliath like straight on, head up, David.

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Speaker 2: Probably would have lost. It's fair to say, right, but what.

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Speaker 1: David did he did something completely outside the box. He

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Speaker 1: was thinking outside the boxes, like I got this.

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Speaker 2: Little slang thing.

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Speaker 1: I'm a sling this thing really really hard in today's world.

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Speaker 1: That's like he shot him and he brought a knife

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Speaker 1: to a gunfight any one because he had he had

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Speaker 1: his gun right, So kind of like what you what

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Speaker 1: do you call it?

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Speaker 2: Result resultanti that's kind.

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Speaker 1: Of in my opinion, the five ay three quarters, Like

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Speaker 1: that's how you think, Like, I'm not gonna do it

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Speaker 1: your way. I'm gonna do it within the scheme. I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna do it my way and we're gonna get some results.

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Speaker 2: That's I think. That's I like that. I like that.

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Speaker 4: And no, and it's not in a negative connotation. No, No,

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Speaker 4: I'm not gonna do it your way. It's just this

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Speaker 4: is how I do it. Yeah, this is how.

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Speaker 2: We do.

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Speaker 3: Shout out to my tell I love that guy. I

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Speaker 3: want to know about this though, because and I don't

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Speaker 3: want you to stay humble, Darryl.

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Speaker 2: Okay, this ain't the time to be humble. I don't

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Speaker 2: want you to be humble. Okay, I want it s

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Speaker 2: ain't humble. Yeah, yeah, hold on, yeah, I don't want

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Speaker 2: you to be Let's go.

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Speaker 3: Is it really true you ran a four four three

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Speaker 3: at fifty because you you.

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Speaker 4: One hundred percent? And it's true. When I was in

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Speaker 4: my eighteen season at forty, I ran four four to

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Speaker 4: two for I ran for.

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Speaker 2: Two four for two four Yeah at eighteen season.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I did all that at my eighteenth of twenty.

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Speaker 4: But you got to keep in mind, I mean you.

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Speaker 4: But you know something, I couldn't show up at four five.

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Speaker 4: I made three quarters.

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Speaker 1: He was like Willie Maids, Willy Mays Hayes from Major League.

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Speaker 1: He just woke up and he woke up outside. They

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Speaker 1: was gonna cut him, and his bell was on the

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Speaker 1: lawn and then he woke up and he saw people running.

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Speaker 1: That's that's what your mommy and William mas hay just

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Speaker 1: running all the time, just straight speed.

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Speaker 3: Well that's also I think one of the the most

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Speaker 3: one of the more interesting facts. And I don't know

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Speaker 3: if you would know this because it's not going to

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Speaker 3: show up on Google or anything, but this is what

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Speaker 3: you knew if you knew Darryl Green's career, was that

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Speaker 3: you always played kickoff because you were the real safety.

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Speaker 3: You were like the first real safety on the kickoff team,

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Speaker 3: and you were out there just because.

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Speaker 4: You were as fast all I was out there for you.

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Speaker 2: So if anybody breaks, Darrell, go get him, you know what.

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Speaker 4: Then to have to credit Richie pettiball On, my defense coordinator,

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Speaker 4: and Joe Gibbs, of course I heard coach. They they

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Speaker 4: had the mindset like me. You know, I don't know

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Speaker 4: if I don't know if I've helped them with it,

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Speaker 4: but they had the mindset like me. We would we

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Speaker 4: would go and create stuff, you know, in the dirt,

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Speaker 4: like you know, I'll let you play what you can play,

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Speaker 4: and we can build that defense around that. So, in

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Speaker 4: other words, if I can actually truthfully shut this receiver

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Speaker 4: down who called eight last week two hundred and twelve

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Speaker 4: and two touchdowns or three touchdowns, if I can actually

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Speaker 4: hold him to three for seventy no touchdowns, and I

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Speaker 4: do it the way I want to do it. Yet,

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Speaker 4: in the context of our scheme, we're gonna win this game.

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Speaker 4: They wasn't stupid. We're gonna win this game. And so

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Speaker 4: you know, okay, let him Dodd. That's not how left

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Speaker 4: foot up, right foot up, coach, whatever, foot up? You know,

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Speaker 4: you know. And when I bumped and run, I didn't.

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Speaker 4: I didn't. I didn't. I wasn't trying to grab nobody. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: I was trying to move and so I worked my feet,

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Speaker 4: you know. And the other thing, too, is going back

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Speaker 4: to your speed thing. I don't hate this, but it

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Speaker 4: took me many years to overcome my own appreciation for

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Speaker 4: being fast because I my first game, I chased out

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Speaker 4: my good friend Today Tony Darcet and it made me famous.

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Speaker 4: I was riding on Tony death since fame that I

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Speaker 4: chased him down.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he went nine to nine.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, And he and I are great friends and we

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Speaker 4: travel speak to youth all over the country and we

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Speaker 4: talk about that. How y'all saying you're trying to belittle him, Well,

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Speaker 4: I'm riding on his shoulders. If he ain't, if I

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Speaker 4: caught you, it wouldn't mean nothing. So we're good friends.

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Speaker 4: But for me being recognized as this fast guy, I

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Speaker 4: despised it in the early years. It's like, man, I'm

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Speaker 4: shutting receivers down. Y'all talk about how fast I am.

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Speaker 4: My speed is a part of it, and I'm grateful

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Speaker 4: for that, But dude, I'm moving my feet, I'm playing

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Speaker 4: the ball. Guys ain't not catching balls on me. I'm

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Speaker 4: not just a fast dude. I'm not going to Pro

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Speaker 4: Bowl to run one hundred meters. I want a pro

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Speaker 4: bowler to go and the coverties wide receivers. So but

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Speaker 4: it took me a long time to mature and realize. Man,

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Speaker 4: I thank God for that. I'm grateful for my speed,

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Speaker 4: but in reality, my speed and my technique and my

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Speaker 4: mind and all the scheme, everything was a part of

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Speaker 4: my success.

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Speaker 1: How long do you think it took for the league

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Speaker 1: or for everyone else for fans to realize that, like

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Speaker 1: damn and he can shut this guy down.

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Speaker 4: They still have Yeah, I don't think. I don't think

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Speaker 4: people really have. I don't think they really get it.

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Speaker 4: I agree with I was being fast. I mean, dude,

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Speaker 4: I chased down some guys. I won the fastest Man.

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Speaker 4: You know, I probably have most of the the majority

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Speaker 4: of the iconic rundowns in the NFL's Faster Man, the

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Speaker 4: old NFL's Fastest Man, and in uh in Palm Spring, California,

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Speaker 4: where it was eight guys and they broke off two

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Speaker 4: go to to two, then four dours two. I'm undefeated

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Speaker 4: and three Olympians was in that and some legitimate guys

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Speaker 4: that were in those races. And I never lost. And

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Speaker 2: That's a big that's a big deal to be proud of.

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Speaker 4: A lot of work, a lot of work.

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Speaker 1: We went outside right What you running me and you

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Speaker 4: I even I even show, I even lift you up

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Speaker 3: I want to know this though, Darryl. And and this

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Speaker 3: technique wise? Is what made you better? Was it more

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Speaker 3: I can catch him with the hands.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I problemself in being great in both. I don't

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Speaker 4: very important thing that I worked on. But my footwork.

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Speaker 4: if he get really up on me too, clothes, hey,

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Speaker 4: And I'm going to focus on that a lot. I'll

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Speaker 4: know that. I got that. That's what they do. Now

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Speaker 4: let's focus on what I do. All right, Dude, you're faster,

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Speaker 4: you're quicker, you mentally tell for arms, y'all know what

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Speaker 4: if you, hey, you get get him off of me. Okay, good,

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Speaker 4: I wasn't just some goofy fast guy running out there.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I wanted to know that, That's why I wanted to.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it was definitely for me. I'm not I'm not

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Speaker 1: So twenty twelve, my number got retired when I went

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Speaker 4: Oh? Man, I've cried a lot of thousand people that

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Speaker 1: True hall of famer you you know, like you you

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Speaker 1: you're a pillar in the community, like you represent them well.

431
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Speaker 1: So I think that's that speaks for itself, like you're

432
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Speaker 1: you are only.

433
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Speaker 4: Different, is only in your one hundred percent right. I'm

434
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Speaker 4: not gonna go and tell you if you don't acknowledge it,

435
00:21:44,640 --> 00:21:47,800
Speaker 4: I keep rolling, I keep rolling. But I am. I'm humbled,

436
00:21:47,840 --> 00:21:50,840
Speaker 4: and I am grateful that that they do. They just

437
00:21:50,960 --> 00:21:53,000
Speaker 4: got here. They say, man, look what about first things

438
00:21:53,000 --> 00:21:55,879
Speaker 4: we're gonna do. We're gonna acknowledge you. I mean, so

439
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Speaker 4: I'm very grateful.

440
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Speaker 2: For Where were you at when when you cut when

441
00:21:58,800 --> 00:21:59,360
Speaker 2: you heard the news?

442
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Speaker 4: So y'all don't know the whole story. So my wife

443
00:22:01,840 --> 00:22:04,440
Speaker 4: and my son was interacting with them for the last

444
00:22:04,480 --> 00:22:07,160
Speaker 4: three months, so they were in on it was yeah,

445
00:22:07,280 --> 00:22:13,720
Speaker 4: and we almost got divorced though talking on the phone.

446
00:22:18,880 --> 00:22:20,640
Speaker 4: And then the day I was supposed to go over

447
00:22:20,760 --> 00:22:23,880
Speaker 4: to the facility, Uh, I was like, hey, I got

448
00:22:23,960 --> 00:22:26,320
Speaker 4: something I'm going on. She said, no, you gotta go

449
00:22:26,359 --> 00:22:28,119
Speaker 4: over here, Like I ain't going nowhere. I gotta go.

450
00:22:28,240 --> 00:22:29,240
Speaker 2: I got a meeting to go to.

451
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Speaker 4: So so thank god she didn't let me break her

452
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Speaker 4: and say, don't forget this. We're trying to surprise you,

453
00:22:38,480 --> 00:22:41,360
Speaker 4: you know, like dad, forget it Dan. We were trying

454
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Speaker 4: to surprise you any can you.

455
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Speaker 2: Miss it all?

456
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Speaker 4: Oh my gosh, man, I was so glad. I say, Honey,

457
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Speaker 4: I love you to depth. You're the best. It was

458
00:22:49,280 --> 00:22:53,080
Speaker 4: the greatest moment. All my kids were there, Oh that's awesome.

459
00:22:53,920 --> 00:22:58,399
Speaker 4: And so they came and the grandkids were there, and

460
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Speaker 4: it was it was special's and I say all my

461
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Speaker 4: kids just in case my daughter in Houston is listening

462
00:23:05,040 --> 00:23:07,000
Speaker 4: to this, It wasn't all my kids. Her and their

463
00:23:07,080 --> 00:23:11,120
Speaker 4: husband and their kids weren't there and and so but anyway, yeah,

464
00:23:11,240 --> 00:23:14,040
Speaker 4: it was That's how they told me. But they worked

465
00:23:14,320 --> 00:23:17,840
Speaker 4: for months working on this and then uh, it was

466
00:23:17,920 --> 00:23:19,600
Speaker 4: just yeah, I was totally hummed.

467
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Speaker 2: So they tell you at the stadium or.

468
00:23:21,440 --> 00:23:24,040
Speaker 4: Was it we were at the facility. So I'll tell

469
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Speaker 4: you how they did it, and you can find it

470
00:23:25,640 --> 00:23:28,680
Speaker 4: because it's probably out there. I went and they were

471
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Speaker 4: telling me to present to do a video for these

472
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Speaker 4: draftees draft, and so I'm going to do. I'm going

473
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Speaker 4: to say to them, you know, the Lords, the Redskins,

474
00:23:39,359 --> 00:23:42,159
Speaker 4: the commanders, Washington, d C. You know, just say, hey,

475
00:23:42,280 --> 00:23:44,520
Speaker 4: this is a big deal that you worked all your

476
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Speaker 4: life for this. And so I'm reading through it. How

477
00:23:46,480 --> 00:23:48,000
Speaker 4: is that you know you're reading the tailor prompt?

478
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Speaker 2: Then they prompt.

479
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Speaker 4: Then they said, okay, that's good. He just got one

480
00:23:53,640 --> 00:23:55,520
Speaker 4: last one, hit, this hit, this next one, and we

481
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Speaker 4: should be good. And I read that.

482
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Speaker 2: I'm going to be and I did you finish reading?

483
00:24:02,040 --> 00:24:08,280
Speaker 4: Or yeah? It was really I have to give them credit.

484
00:24:08,400 --> 00:24:12,400
Speaker 4: It was And again, dude, they put a lot of thought, yeah,

485
00:24:12,680 --> 00:24:15,560
Speaker 4: and energy and a lot of people. So I was humble.

486
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Speaker 4: I was. I was. It brings me to tears in

487
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Speaker 4: a lot of people as well, and I appreciate that

488
00:24:19,680 --> 00:24:22,680
Speaker 4: because people know who I am, they'll know what I'm about.

489
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Speaker 4: I'm not I'm not that dude, you know, I'm just

490
00:24:25,760 --> 00:24:28,200
Speaker 4: a guy down the street. It's grateful to be alive,

491
00:24:28,359 --> 00:24:33,080
Speaker 4: have a family, and and you know, just to digress football.

492
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Speaker 4: I started football eleventh grade on JB. I made divarsity.

493
00:24:36,840 --> 00:24:39,920
Speaker 4: I walked on that Texas are and in AI. I

494
00:24:40,040 --> 00:24:42,440
Speaker 4: left after one semester. After started the last game. My

495
00:24:42,480 --> 00:24:44,119
Speaker 4: buddy got killed. In correct. I was supposed to be

496
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Speaker 4: in that car. I left, went home, no grade, zero grades.

497
00:24:48,560 --> 00:24:50,159
Speaker 4: A year and a half later, I came back, but

498
00:24:50,240 --> 00:24:53,520
Speaker 4: I got twelve hours in community college. New coach let

499
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Speaker 4: me walk on again. Three years later, I was the

500
00:24:56,560 --> 00:24:59,080
Speaker 4: first round draft pick that weekend. I got drafted. The

501
00:24:59,119 --> 00:25:02,840
Speaker 4: next weekend, Clem Greenwood hung itself. The guy that got

502
00:25:02,880 --> 00:25:04,560
Speaker 4: in the car that was my second best friend. His

503
00:25:04,680 --> 00:25:07,400
Speaker 4: name was Connelle Green. Clem Greenwood with my second best

504
00:25:07,400 --> 00:25:09,480
Speaker 4: When my parents got divorced in sixth grade, I met

505
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Speaker 4: them at the new school and knew them all my life.

506
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Speaker 4: One gets killed, I was supposed to be in the car.

507
00:25:15,040 --> 00:25:17,199
Speaker 4: One dies and hangs itself when I hung itself when

508
00:25:17,240 --> 00:25:20,320
Speaker 4: I got drafted, So my life wasn't all just peachy cream.

509
00:25:20,920 --> 00:25:22,959
Speaker 4: And we grew up in the project, food stamps all

510
00:25:23,040 --> 00:25:25,680
Speaker 4: that stuff, and so I came from that broken home

511
00:25:25,760 --> 00:25:28,440
Speaker 4: all that stuff. And so next thing, no, I'm in Washington,

512
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Speaker 4: Like you think you surprised, I'm surprised. How did we'll

513
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Speaker 4: I get to be in the NFL draft. Yeah, I

514
00:25:34,600 --> 00:25:36,560
Speaker 4: didn't even I wasn't all that, you know. Now, we

515
00:25:36,640 --> 00:25:38,720
Speaker 4: won the state in the MA relay my senior year.

516
00:25:38,840 --> 00:25:41,439
Speaker 4: I ran tracking the eleventh twelfth grade and I ran

517
00:25:41,520 --> 00:25:44,080
Speaker 4: track in the tenth grade. I played football eleventh grade JV,

518
00:25:44,200 --> 00:25:46,520
Speaker 4: and I played football my senior year. So we won

519
00:25:46,600 --> 00:25:49,800
Speaker 4: the state. So I had some success in that. I

520
00:25:49,920 --> 00:25:52,040
Speaker 4: think I made all district at corner even as a

521
00:25:52,119 --> 00:25:56,040
Speaker 4: one year player. But I wasn't somebody's you know hot,

522
00:25:56,240 --> 00:25:58,920
Speaker 4: you know hot hot item. So but I walked on

523
00:25:59,200 --> 00:26:03,200
Speaker 4: and had fun. But that tragically, tragic happened, and I

524
00:26:03,320 --> 00:26:05,880
Speaker 4: just went back. I had no clue I was gonna

525
00:26:05,920 --> 00:26:08,879
Speaker 4: be in the NFL. I didn't dream about it. I

526
00:26:08,920 --> 00:26:11,320
Speaker 4: didn't dream about it, think about it. It's not even real.

527
00:26:13,240 --> 00:26:15,040
Speaker 4: I never even thought about it. Wasn't real or not.

528
00:26:15,760 --> 00:26:18,359
Speaker 4: It wasn't real. I didn't thought about it. So next thing,

529
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Speaker 4: you know, I was in the NFL. And then as

530
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Speaker 4: a Christian, I could hear God speak, and then when

531
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Speaker 4: he told me not to go to another team. Fine,

532
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Speaker 4: I'm gonna stay here. Next thing. I know it's twenty years,

533
00:26:29,200 --> 00:26:31,320
Speaker 4: but it's pretty crazy, man. And then, but I got

534
00:26:31,359 --> 00:26:34,359
Speaker 4: a great family, great marriage, great wife. So I'm humble

535
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Speaker 4: by that.

536
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Speaker 2: We're gonna take a short break and we'll be right back.

537
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Speaker 3: About those twenty years. I want to know if you're

538
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Speaker 3: aware that, which I think you may be, that you're

539
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Speaker 3: on hold the record for the seasons with an interception

540
00:27:03,520 --> 00:27:05,640
Speaker 3: at nineteen Yeah. Yeah, and the only one you didn't

541
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Speaker 3: get was your very last one. How close were you

542
00:27:08,000 --> 00:27:09,639
Speaker 3: getting one or your last year?

543
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Speaker 2: And how much do you still hold on to this?

544
00:27:12,400 --> 00:27:14,359
Speaker 4: Oh? No, I hold on to it. And what's funny

545
00:27:14,359 --> 00:27:18,080
Speaker 4: about it is a guy named Mitchell. He was a

546
00:27:18,160 --> 00:27:21,800
Speaker 4: linebacker and I seen my last game. I wasn't starting,

547
00:27:21,840 --> 00:27:23,560
Speaker 4: but I was. I was playing there. I was in there,

548
00:27:23,640 --> 00:27:26,840
Speaker 4: I remember, and I got an interception and here it comes,

549
00:27:29,000 --> 00:27:30,800
Speaker 4: knocked the crap out of me, and he caught it.

550
00:27:31,560 --> 00:27:35,960
Speaker 4: Here's a bad part about it. He died a little

551
00:27:35,960 --> 00:27:39,159
Speaker 4: bit after that. I was at his house with his family.

552
00:27:40,440 --> 00:27:43,879
Speaker 4: That painted ball was on the on the thing and

553
00:27:44,000 --> 00:27:49,680
Speaker 4: I looked, oh my god, that's my Yeah. Yeah, that

554
00:27:49,840 --> 00:27:53,160
Speaker 4: was crazy, crazy story, man, that's the crazy story. But yeah,

555
00:27:53,200 --> 00:27:56,200
Speaker 4: I would have got it. I would have got an interception.

556
00:27:56,920 --> 00:28:00,400
Speaker 4: One interception for twenty years. But even nineteen it's still

557
00:28:00,920 --> 00:28:03,639
Speaker 4: it's still a great Is that a record?

558
00:28:04,760 --> 00:28:07,920
Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, okay, yeah, Corners ain't playing twenty years.

559
00:28:08,160 --> 00:28:09,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, so that was pretty cool.

560
00:28:09,880 --> 00:28:13,080
Speaker 1: Manty, he played twenty years when the NFL was real. Yeah,

561
00:28:13,440 --> 00:28:16,000
Speaker 1: probably you probably would have played about you to play longer.

562
00:28:16,200 --> 00:28:20,560
Speaker 4: How long the time twenty something, but I think I

563
00:28:20,680 --> 00:28:24,640
Speaker 4: think probably just the way they don't practice and don't

564
00:28:24,720 --> 00:28:25,439
Speaker 4: hit and stuff.

565
00:28:26,240 --> 00:28:29,320
Speaker 2: He knocked out twenty I think you could have not

566
00:28:29,440 --> 00:28:30,440
Speaker 2: because I quit.

567
00:28:30,520 --> 00:28:32,359
Speaker 1: I didn't get cut. Yeah, I didn't, you know, I

568
00:28:32,480 --> 00:28:35,600
Speaker 1: was still playing. Here's what I want to know. The

569
00:28:35,800 --> 00:28:38,800
Speaker 1: very first game I ever started, it's my fourth game

570
00:28:38,840 --> 00:28:41,440
Speaker 1: of the season. We played Oakland. My coach comes over

571
00:28:41,520 --> 00:28:43,200
Speaker 1: to me. It was like, Peanut, that was my rookie year.

572
00:28:43,240 --> 00:28:47,080
Speaker 1: He goes, Peanut, you starting this week. You're going against

573
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Speaker 1: two future Hall of famers. You're going against Jay Rice

574
00:28:50,280 --> 00:28:52,840
Speaker 1: and Tim Brown. Now don't be in there fing up.

575
00:28:53,280 --> 00:28:56,520
Speaker 1: And he walked away and I was like, all right.

576
00:28:57,360 --> 00:28:58,600
Speaker 1: And then as soon as he walked away, I was

577
00:28:58,720 --> 00:29:04,120
Speaker 1: like and it was this great feeling for me, right,

578
00:29:04,600 --> 00:29:08,160
Speaker 1: what I want to know, Give us a story about

579
00:29:08,240 --> 00:29:10,680
Speaker 1: some of the greatest battles you had with Jerry Rice

580
00:29:10,760 --> 00:29:12,840
Speaker 1: and some of the you know, the Michael Irvin's and

581
00:29:12,960 --> 00:29:13,800
Speaker 1: some of these all the.

582
00:29:13,800 --> 00:29:16,680
Speaker 2: Big time receivers that I grew up watching. Andre Reid.

583
00:29:17,560 --> 00:29:19,880
Speaker 2: Philadelphia had two of the boys back in the day.

584
00:29:20,480 --> 00:29:20,720
Speaker 4: Quick.

585
00:29:21,040 --> 00:29:25,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

586
00:29:25,760 --> 00:29:29,440
Speaker 4: Number one Michael six eight taller than me and started

587
00:29:29,480 --> 00:29:33,280
Speaker 4: off against him. Uh, well, it started off Monday night.

588
00:29:33,480 --> 00:29:34,360
Speaker 4: I'm from Texas.

589
00:29:34,520 --> 00:29:34,720
Speaker 2: Yeah.

590
00:29:34,920 --> 00:29:39,400
Speaker 4: We planned the Dallas Cowboys on Monday night. My Redskins

591
00:29:39,600 --> 00:29:42,640
Speaker 4: at the time had just won the Super Bowl. They

592
00:29:42,760 --> 00:29:45,840
Speaker 4: beat Dallas in the championship game. Just you know, a

593
00:29:45,920 --> 00:29:49,720
Speaker 4: few months before, and we're gonna kick off. I'm the

594
00:29:49,840 --> 00:29:54,120
Speaker 4: new guy. I'm on the field. I'm thinking that week now.

595
00:29:54,160 --> 00:29:57,240
Speaker 4: They told me on Monday that I was starting. We

596
00:29:57,360 --> 00:30:00,280
Speaker 4: had a training camp. Hey were starting on Monday night.

597
00:30:00,600 --> 00:30:04,760
Speaker 4: You starting, So the previous Monday they telling me, oh

598
00:30:04,840 --> 00:30:09,400
Speaker 4: my gosh, I'm starting the Cowboys. I want to get

599
00:30:09,440 --> 00:30:14,160
Speaker 4: Drew Pearson's autograph, the receiver that I'm matching up with him.

600
00:30:14,640 --> 00:30:16,480
Speaker 4: Tony Hill was on the other side, Drew Piers. Tony

601
00:30:16,560 --> 00:30:17,320
Speaker 4: Hill was a number one.

602
00:30:17,520 --> 00:30:20,200
Speaker 3: That's so funny y'all having these heroes and all of

603
00:30:20,240 --> 00:30:21,040
Speaker 3: a sudden we play them.

604
00:30:21,280 --> 00:30:26,680
Speaker 4: Dude, it's crazy. It's crazy. So I'm thinking Monday, I

605
00:30:26,720 --> 00:30:29,680
Speaker 4: want to get this autograph. Tuesday, I want to get

606
00:30:29,720 --> 00:30:33,640
Speaker 4: his autograph Wednesday. I hate him. They didn't. They didn't.

607
00:30:33,680 --> 00:30:35,960
Speaker 4: Don't see. This is back and this is where we're

608
00:30:36,000 --> 00:30:37,960
Speaker 4: going to get back to Commanders. We are going to

609
00:30:38,000 --> 00:30:42,040
Speaker 4: get back to that where the Cowboys beating the Cowboys

610
00:30:42,160 --> 00:30:45,000
Speaker 4: mean something, where half the team, half the fans are

611
00:30:45,040 --> 00:30:48,600
Speaker 4: not Cowboy fans in our stadium, half the players are

612
00:30:48,600 --> 00:30:51,760
Speaker 4: not from Philadelphia, in the stands, half the Giant. It's

613
00:30:51,840 --> 00:30:54,560
Speaker 4: gonna be us in our own stands. I'm telling my

614
00:30:54,680 --> 00:30:57,560
Speaker 4: people that I hope they listen to y'all show. Y'all

615
00:30:57,560 --> 00:31:02,720
Speaker 4: better be DMB. I hope you will. Yeah, we're gonna

616
00:31:02,760 --> 00:31:07,840
Speaker 4: be taking our place back anyway. The Cowboys I didn't know.

617
00:31:08,040 --> 00:31:10,000
Speaker 4: I knew nothing about a rivalry. I'm from Texas. I

618
00:31:10,000 --> 00:31:15,760
Speaker 4: don't know anything, so they baptized me in this. I

619
00:31:15,840 --> 00:31:18,200
Speaker 4: don't want to get nothing from this. Dude. Forget him.

620
00:31:18,520 --> 00:31:21,680
Speaker 4: You know he got in the Hall of Fame about

621
00:31:21,680 --> 00:31:23,720
Speaker 4: three years ago. Yeah, yeah, I told him. The Stewart

622
00:31:23,760 --> 00:31:26,520
Speaker 4: and got an autographed from him. Oh, I had never

623
00:31:26,640 --> 00:31:27,160
Speaker 4: talked to him.

624
00:31:27,200 --> 00:31:30,080
Speaker 2: That was gonna be my next question Hall of Fame. Now,

625
00:31:30,160 --> 00:31:32,640
Speaker 2: so did you did you ever? You held this for

626
00:31:33,520 --> 00:31:34,120
Speaker 2: thirty years?

627
00:31:34,240 --> 00:31:36,320
Speaker 4: I told him, I told him the whole story.

628
00:31:37,360 --> 00:31:38,240
Speaker 2: What was this reaction.

629
00:31:39,200 --> 00:31:41,640
Speaker 4: Well, he told me that I busted his lip of

630
00:31:41,920 --> 00:31:44,360
Speaker 4: nose in the game. I don't remember that. And he

631
00:31:44,440 --> 00:31:46,280
Speaker 4: also told me something this is bad to say. I'm

632
00:31:46,440 --> 00:31:49,160
Speaker 4: say it anyway because we all love if you all

633
00:31:49,720 --> 00:31:52,520
Speaker 4: anybody have to do with the NFL, you love Tom Landry.

634
00:31:52,600 --> 00:31:55,280
Speaker 4: But he said Tom Landry kind of blamed him for

635
00:31:55,400 --> 00:31:58,200
Speaker 4: me chasing down Tony dar Sat wouldn't get the block.

636
00:31:58,800 --> 00:32:03,840
Speaker 4: Come on, man, you couldn't block. I'm going I'm not

637
00:32:04,000 --> 00:32:06,600
Speaker 4: running everybody on the field. So I don't know, I

638
00:32:06,640 --> 00:32:09,520
Speaker 4: don't know you did tell me that, but but yeah,

639
00:32:09,640 --> 00:32:11,920
Speaker 4: that was a really unique thing. We went fourteen and

640
00:32:12,000 --> 00:32:14,320
Speaker 4: two that year, my rookie year, and we lost in

641
00:32:14,360 --> 00:32:18,200
Speaker 4: the Super Bowl. But it was a fun year. But

642
00:32:18,680 --> 00:32:23,520
Speaker 4: I got introduced to the Cowboys receivers Philadelphia, as I said,

643
00:32:25,000 --> 00:32:32,480
Speaker 4: Mike Quick, Roy Green, and because Arizona St. Louis, Yeah, St.

644
00:32:32,560 --> 00:32:36,040
Speaker 4: Louis Cardinals was in our league at that time. So

645
00:32:36,360 --> 00:32:38,160
Speaker 4: I don't know if they draft me for these guys,

646
00:32:38,200 --> 00:32:42,520
Speaker 4: but I messed up on all these guys, Roy, Mike Quick,

647
00:32:43,120 --> 00:32:45,720
Speaker 4: Tony Well. I ultimately went to Tony here, but I

648
00:32:45,800 --> 00:32:49,200
Speaker 4: was on Drew John's didn't have anybody. They didn't have

649
00:32:49,720 --> 00:32:52,680
Speaker 4: they didn't have a premier receiver. But I started off

650
00:32:52,760 --> 00:32:56,800
Speaker 4: pretty much early on matching up with people. Definitely the

651
00:32:56,880 --> 00:32:59,920
Speaker 4: second year matching up with the guys, and so, you know,

652
00:33:00,120 --> 00:33:03,160
Speaker 4: was a lot to me. I had a tough I

653
00:33:03,280 --> 00:33:05,479
Speaker 4: had a lot of fun when I played. I had

654
00:33:05,760 --> 00:33:07,920
Speaker 4: I was a fun guy. I didn't I wasn't cussing

655
00:33:08,040 --> 00:33:10,600
Speaker 4: and screaming. And let me just tell you this, Jared Rice.

656
00:33:10,640 --> 00:33:20,640
Speaker 4: You mentioned, Jared Rice, the attributes of wide receiver, rot, running, hands, heart, speed.

657
00:33:21,120 --> 00:33:23,560
Speaker 4: You know, those are the things that are important. And

658
00:33:23,680 --> 00:33:26,240
Speaker 4: you start to say, well, who has the highest number

659
00:33:26,360 --> 00:33:29,320
Speaker 4: calculated number of you know, I got it. He's a ten,

660
00:33:29,640 --> 00:33:31,840
Speaker 4: he's a seven, he's a six, he's a four, and

661
00:33:31,920 --> 00:33:33,960
Speaker 4: then oh well he's a seven and nine and nine

662
00:33:34,040 --> 00:33:37,560
Speaker 4: and a six. So the numbers add up. So Jared

663
00:33:37,680 --> 00:33:40,960
Speaker 4: Rice equals out the highest numbers. To me, he's a

664
00:33:41,080 --> 00:33:45,200
Speaker 4: low speed, but rot running, he's high hands, he's high

665
00:33:45,760 --> 00:33:48,960
Speaker 4: uh and uh and hard he's high, Mike girvs his

666
00:33:49,080 --> 00:33:53,320
Speaker 4: hands heart way up here, speed he's low. Uh. And

667
00:33:53,360 --> 00:33:56,040
Speaker 4: then you got to add their quarterbacks to So that's

668
00:33:56,080 --> 00:33:57,800
Speaker 4: how I looked at him, you know, And I say so,

669
00:33:58,080 --> 00:34:01,760
Speaker 4: I would give him the odd for that, but just

670
00:34:01,880 --> 00:34:05,160
Speaker 4: the privilege of being able to say, uh, that I

671
00:34:05,240 --> 00:34:07,400
Speaker 4: played against these guys and maybe have you ever had

672
00:34:07,480 --> 00:34:09,840
Speaker 4: Jared Rice on the show. We have no, Okay, So

673
00:34:09,920 --> 00:34:11,440
Speaker 4: I'm gonna get him to come on the show to

674
00:34:12,000 --> 00:34:18,399
Speaker 4: rebuttle this. So so so Jared right, So I'm really,

675
00:34:18,719 --> 00:34:22,440
Speaker 4: I'm really, I'm just a dude. I mean, if I'm

676
00:34:22,480 --> 00:34:25,040
Speaker 4: playing against you, hey, man, what's up? What how you doing? Man?

677
00:34:25,080 --> 00:34:27,440
Speaker 4: Your mama and Nail and everybody good. When we get

678
00:34:27,480 --> 00:34:29,800
Speaker 4: in the game, trust me, we're gonna be competing. We

679
00:34:29,840 --> 00:34:32,120
Speaker 4: ain't competing right now, and I know how to go

680
00:34:32,200 --> 00:34:35,640
Speaker 4: into competition and separate that from Hey, what's up? Bro?

681
00:34:35,800 --> 00:34:39,120
Speaker 4: I ain't I ain't mad at nobody. I don't hate nobody.

682
00:34:39,440 --> 00:34:42,920
Speaker 4: I ain't screaming at nobody. When we competing, it's competition

683
00:34:43,360 --> 00:34:46,000
Speaker 4: and skill against skilled. If you did it good, hey, dude,

684
00:34:46,360 --> 00:34:50,120
Speaker 4: good man, dude, those a route. That's how I played

685
00:34:50,120 --> 00:34:52,080
Speaker 4: the game like, you know, if you did it, you

686
00:34:52,239 --> 00:34:55,120
Speaker 4: did it. If you did it and got me, you

687
00:34:55,280 --> 00:34:58,359
Speaker 4: really did something. I ain't mad. I'm really like, man, dude,

688
00:34:58,360 --> 00:35:01,680
Speaker 4: I gotta give it to you. J Rice wouldn't speak

689
00:35:01,719 --> 00:35:04,319
Speaker 4: to me before the game, would't speak to me during

690
00:35:04,360 --> 00:35:07,880
Speaker 4: the game, won't speak to me after the game. So

691
00:35:08,040 --> 00:35:10,440
Speaker 4: one day I did something that was out of my character.

692
00:35:12,080 --> 00:35:13,759
Speaker 4: I said to the media. I said, you know what

693
00:35:13,920 --> 00:35:17,319
Speaker 4: burns me up. I've been you know it's green on Rice.

694
00:35:17,440 --> 00:35:20,319
Speaker 4: You know, all these years, y'all won't shake my hand,

695
00:35:20,440 --> 00:35:23,719
Speaker 4: say what's up? Boom boom boom. So I said that

696
00:35:23,880 --> 00:35:27,759
Speaker 4: to them there, I said that to them, and you

697
00:35:27,880 --> 00:35:30,279
Speaker 4: remember this story. So we get to the Pro Bowl

698
00:35:30,320 --> 00:35:33,200
Speaker 4: in Hawaii. I'm coming off you name it, he coming

699
00:35:33,280 --> 00:35:36,640
Speaker 4: off America. You know, we meet. Hey, damn, I knew

700
00:35:36,640 --> 00:35:39,920
Speaker 4: what he was talking about. Yeah, man, what up? Man? You?

701
00:35:40,120 --> 00:35:41,880
Speaker 4: I said, Man, huh? I actually I ain't know what

702
00:35:41,960 --> 00:35:44,360
Speaker 4: he was talking about. And then I said, man, you

703
00:35:44,440 --> 00:35:47,200
Speaker 4: know what, Yeah, you're right, I said, man, But one

704
00:35:47,280 --> 00:35:50,160
Speaker 4: day we're not gonna be in the NFL and you

705
00:35:50,280 --> 00:35:54,520
Speaker 4: can't shake my hand, you don't say hi, you don't, dude.

706
00:35:54,600 --> 00:35:58,200
Speaker 4: We donna compete either way, I'm gonna compete hard against

707
00:35:58,280 --> 00:36:00,400
Speaker 4: you rather I like you or not like you. You

708
00:36:00,480 --> 00:36:03,719
Speaker 4: say nice things, but we should be able to be Hey, man,

709
00:36:03,719 --> 00:36:06,120
Speaker 4: what's up, how you doing, how your mamae? And whatever?

710
00:36:06,960 --> 00:36:09,000
Speaker 4: And he said he was superstitious, and he gave some

711
00:36:09,080 --> 00:36:14,240
Speaker 4: answers for it, and I just I never liked that, dude.

712
00:36:14,440 --> 00:36:16,520
Speaker 4: I want to be friends with my quick when the

713
00:36:16,560 --> 00:36:19,200
Speaker 4: game is over. That ain't gonna take nothing off It

714
00:36:19,239 --> 00:36:21,440
Speaker 4: ain't gonna take nothing off me. I'm gonna hit you

715
00:36:21,560 --> 00:36:24,120
Speaker 4: hard and try to you know, Michael or whoever it is.

716
00:36:25,040 --> 00:36:27,439
Speaker 4: That's just the way I am. I don't hate my team,

717
00:36:28,080 --> 00:36:31,359
Speaker 4: my opponent. I don't you know. I'm not gonna try

718
00:36:31,400 --> 00:36:34,840
Speaker 4: to kill dude. This is a skill. You got a

719
00:36:34,920 --> 00:36:37,920
Speaker 4: quarterback throwing these balls, You running precise routes, and I'm

720
00:36:37,920 --> 00:36:41,319
Speaker 4: trying to stop you. That's a competition, for sure. That's

721
00:36:41,440 --> 00:36:43,759
Speaker 4: not something for us to be mad and fighting about.

722
00:36:43,800 --> 00:36:46,480
Speaker 4: It's like either you can or you can't. When you're

723
00:36:46,480 --> 00:36:48,359
Speaker 4: playing me, you can either beat me or you can't.

724
00:36:49,200 --> 00:36:52,600
Speaker 3: I think it's interesting because you probably played in the

725
00:36:52,640 --> 00:36:55,960
Speaker 3: wrong era. Because nowadays everybody knows each other because of

726
00:36:56,040 --> 00:36:56,680
Speaker 3: social media.

727
00:36:57,160 --> 00:36:58,279
Speaker 2: Most of these players are.

728
00:36:58,200 --> 00:37:00,840
Speaker 3: Friends with others and they try to get the jerseys

729
00:37:00,880 --> 00:37:02,920
Speaker 3: and then take the jersey and they're doing all the

730
00:37:03,000 --> 00:37:06,600
Speaker 3: other When you were playing nobody talk to nobody.

731
00:37:06,680 --> 00:37:08,480
Speaker 2: You ain't know nobody else on the other team. You

732
00:37:08,600 --> 00:37:09,720
Speaker 2: usually hated that person.

733
00:37:10,120 --> 00:37:10,640
Speaker 4: I didn't.

734
00:37:11,080 --> 00:37:12,280
Speaker 2: Ye're different.

735
00:37:12,760 --> 00:37:14,400
Speaker 4: I probably have a couple more dollars in my pocket

736
00:37:14,440 --> 00:37:16,839
Speaker 4: if I played in this era. Hunh you will. That's

737
00:37:16,920 --> 00:37:22,759
Speaker 4: interesting you saying that, because I truthfully, I don't. I

738
00:37:22,800 --> 00:37:24,879
Speaker 4: don't know if I'm agree with you with everybody after

739
00:37:24,960 --> 00:37:28,719
Speaker 4: the game with the with the jerseys that I don't

740
00:37:28,760 --> 00:37:31,120
Speaker 4: know if I would go that far every week. I look,

741
00:37:31,280 --> 00:37:35,560
Speaker 4: we're doing that, yeah, but there's a level of causal

742
00:37:35,719 --> 00:37:38,480
Speaker 4: respect and hey, what up, dude? Are you doing? Man?

743
00:37:38,520 --> 00:37:40,080
Speaker 4: Good to see you. You know, dude, we've been around.

744
00:37:40,120 --> 00:37:42,920
Speaker 4: We played eight years together, nine years, but you're in

745
00:37:42,920 --> 00:37:46,000
Speaker 4: the NFC. He some I'm playing you every year. You

746
00:37:46,080 --> 00:37:48,080
Speaker 4: don't have to invite me to your house and be

747
00:37:48,239 --> 00:37:51,120
Speaker 4: my best friend. But you got to be causial and

748
00:37:51,480 --> 00:37:53,840
Speaker 4: I'm not cussing and fighting and stuff because at the

749
00:37:53,920 --> 00:37:56,600
Speaker 4: end of the day, like I said, you awesome if

750
00:37:56,640 --> 00:37:58,879
Speaker 4: you can beat me, because I put in a lot

751
00:37:58,960 --> 00:38:01,560
Speaker 4: of work and I want to see my skills against

752
00:38:01,600 --> 00:38:04,359
Speaker 4: your skills. And I'm fortunate too because I'm probably one

753
00:38:04,360 --> 00:38:07,440
Speaker 4: of the only guys got the match up in an

754
00:38:07,520 --> 00:38:10,000
Speaker 4: era and the deal came later. But a lot of

755
00:38:10,040 --> 00:38:12,560
Speaker 4: the other greats they didn't match up. No, I don't

756
00:38:12,560 --> 00:38:15,560
Speaker 4: think Woodson matched up, and I don't Nias may have

757
00:38:15,680 --> 00:38:17,360
Speaker 4: matched up a little bits.

758
00:38:17,400 --> 00:38:19,040
Speaker 2: Also transitioned to the slot too.

759
00:38:19,280 --> 00:38:22,239
Speaker 4: Yeah, went to safety as well as you went to

760
00:38:22,280 --> 00:38:30,640
Speaker 4: safety in this that's my guy. But but no, you know,

761
00:38:30,719 --> 00:38:32,120
Speaker 4: it was a unique It was kind of you know,

762
00:38:32,239 --> 00:38:34,200
Speaker 4: as I played, and I'm you know, I'm kind of

763
00:38:34,239 --> 00:38:36,160
Speaker 4: a guy. I'm not I'm not really famous since I

764
00:38:36,200 --> 00:38:38,160
Speaker 4: don't I'm not out there. I'm not as popular a

765
00:38:38,239 --> 00:38:41,600
Speaker 4: lot of people. But uh, you know, people don't really

766
00:38:41,719 --> 00:38:43,520
Speaker 4: know what I how and you guys are getting a

767
00:38:43,520 --> 00:38:45,160
Speaker 4: little bit of it out of me. But yeah, the

768
00:38:45,239 --> 00:38:47,520
Speaker 4: way I thought about the game, where I approached it,

769
00:38:47,960 --> 00:38:51,400
Speaker 4: what I thought about the players and the companies that

770
00:38:51,480 --> 00:38:53,400
Speaker 4: I had. You know, when I played Randy Moss, you know,

771
00:38:53,520 --> 00:38:56,279
Speaker 4: I was scared of Randy Moss. You know, he was

772
00:38:56,360 --> 00:38:59,840
Speaker 4: that's back when he's Moss and people, you know, Randy

773
00:39:00,560 --> 00:39:04,359
Speaker 4: is incredible. But I'm pretty good too.

774
00:39:04,680 --> 00:39:06,799
Speaker 2: You gotta play the man. You gotta guard the man,

775
00:39:07,000 --> 00:39:07,760
Speaker 2: not his reputation.

776
00:39:08,000 --> 00:39:12,000
Speaker 4: Exactly exactly of something, Gil Bird gil Bert, that's that's

777
00:39:12,040 --> 00:39:12,960
Speaker 4: my draft class. Yeah.

778
00:39:13,040 --> 00:39:15,680
Speaker 1: Gil Gill coach me in Chicago, and that's one thing

779
00:39:15,680 --> 00:39:17,680
Speaker 1: he used to always say, you gotta you gotta guard

780
00:39:17,719 --> 00:39:20,760
Speaker 1: the man, not his reputation. Don't be scared to play anybody.

781
00:39:21,000 --> 00:39:21,799
Speaker 4: Gills, that's my guy.

782
00:39:22,080 --> 00:39:24,600
Speaker 2: Was a good player San Diego too. Yeah, you used

783
00:39:24,640 --> 00:39:27,200
Speaker 2: to drop those those gyms San Diego.

784
00:39:27,280 --> 00:39:30,360
Speaker 4: Speaking of the draft, San Diego had like three first

785
00:39:30,440 --> 00:39:34,040
Speaker 4: round draft picks, Gary Anderson I think his last name

786
00:39:34,120 --> 00:39:39,520
Speaker 4: was Anderson, Billy Ray Smith linebacker, and Gil in nineteen

787
00:39:39,560 --> 00:39:41,080
Speaker 4: eighty three draft and you can look that up. I

788
00:39:41,120 --> 00:39:44,319
Speaker 4: think I'm right. Three first round picks in the draft

789
00:39:44,360 --> 00:39:46,480
Speaker 4: when I came out of and Gil. I think Gil

790
00:39:46,600 --> 00:39:48,560
Speaker 4: was one of those. Yeah, that's my guy.

791
00:39:48,800 --> 00:39:50,759
Speaker 2: That was Yeah. Gil was a good dude.

792
00:39:51,640 --> 00:39:53,320
Speaker 1: I want to answer a question real quick though, So

793
00:39:53,480 --> 00:39:56,920
Speaker 1: I know you had a George Mason University assistant athletic director.

794
00:39:57,840 --> 00:39:59,920
Speaker 2: I'm so sociated. I thought, excuse me, apologize.

795
00:40:00,719 --> 00:40:04,040
Speaker 1: What's been one of the most gratifying feelings you've had

796
00:40:04,239 --> 00:40:08,240
Speaker 1: having that job, being around the youth and other young athletes.

797
00:40:08,560 --> 00:40:11,040
Speaker 4: That's really all I'm really interested in, you know, as

798
00:40:11,120 --> 00:40:13,719
Speaker 4: young people. That's what I do have my life. But

799
00:40:13,800 --> 00:40:18,320
Speaker 4: I'm more you know, I'm a really from elementary school

800
00:40:18,600 --> 00:40:24,319
Speaker 4: through college. But unfortunately it's a lot of business trying

801
00:40:24,360 --> 00:40:26,200
Speaker 4: to raise money and so forth. But I do get

802
00:40:26,239 --> 00:40:31,239
Speaker 4: a chance to participate and interact with young people. That's

803
00:40:31,360 --> 00:40:35,040
Speaker 4: my life. That's what I love, you know. And it's

804
00:40:35,320 --> 00:40:38,680
Speaker 4: really tough because everybody wants you to be the next

805
00:40:38,760 --> 00:40:40,520
Speaker 4: this and next that, and I'm gonna be this, I'm

806
00:40:40,520 --> 00:40:43,680
Speaker 4: gonna be that, and sometimes people forget about just really

807
00:40:43,760 --> 00:40:47,200
Speaker 4: living just how do you live? What is it like

808
00:40:47,680 --> 00:40:50,600
Speaker 4: to be a man, just to be a friend, be

809
00:40:50,680 --> 00:40:54,799
Speaker 4: a son, you know. And so I enjoy it from

810
00:40:54,880 --> 00:40:59,000
Speaker 4: that bandness point the other parts of it, you know,

811
00:40:59,160 --> 00:41:01,800
Speaker 4: people like me can have, you know, but but I

812
00:41:01,880 --> 00:41:04,160
Speaker 4: do enjoy that. And you get with young people and

813
00:41:04,239 --> 00:41:07,480
Speaker 4: you and they want to know, you know, how a man,

814
00:41:07,560 --> 00:41:09,120
Speaker 4: how can you do it? What do I have to do?

815
00:41:09,880 --> 00:41:13,160
Speaker 4: And then sometimes they don't want to know you know it,

816
00:41:13,360 --> 00:41:15,960
Speaker 4: and it can create a lot of problems for people.

817
00:41:16,440 --> 00:41:19,000
Speaker 4: And and sometimes the problem not my brother, you know,

818
00:41:19,000 --> 00:41:21,239
Speaker 4: I had a brother who I think he died a

819
00:41:21,320 --> 00:41:25,399
Speaker 4: drug overdose. I'm not sure, but you know, my father

820
00:41:25,560 --> 00:41:27,840
Speaker 4: was an alcoholic and all that stuff. They got divorced.

821
00:41:28,000 --> 00:41:30,680
Speaker 4: I lived in all that stuff. And so I'm really

822
00:41:30,760 --> 00:41:34,120
Speaker 4: more passionate about young people of all all types of

823
00:41:34,200 --> 00:41:37,839
Speaker 4: young people having a chance to be successful. Give him

824
00:41:37,880 --> 00:41:40,560
Speaker 4: a shot, give him a chance, give him a chance

825
00:41:40,640 --> 00:41:44,080
Speaker 4: to win, you know, and you know, don't lock him up,

826
00:41:44,440 --> 00:41:47,120
Speaker 4: don't kick him out, give him a shot. Let's talk

827
00:41:47,200 --> 00:41:48,640
Speaker 4: to him. So I'd like to be the guy that

828
00:41:48,760 --> 00:41:49,759
Speaker 4: I that they talk to.

829
00:41:50,400 --> 00:41:54,040
Speaker 1: Do you feel that you're you're a wisdom that you

830
00:41:54,280 --> 00:41:59,719
Speaker 1: have this, you've got life experience. Do you feel that

831
00:41:59,800 --> 00:42:04,080
Speaker 1: the youth and what you give them their receptive to receiving?

832
00:42:04,560 --> 00:42:06,279
Speaker 4: Yeah? I think so. Now what I do as a

833
00:42:06,320 --> 00:42:09,040
Speaker 4: company I work with called centen CE and T and E.

834
00:42:09,640 --> 00:42:11,640
Speaker 4: They're a large managed care in the company in this

835
00:42:11,760 --> 00:42:14,239
Speaker 4: country and we partner with the Pro Football Hall of Fame,

836
00:42:14,800 --> 00:42:17,759
Speaker 4: and so we're we're all over the United States every

837
00:42:17,840 --> 00:42:19,680
Speaker 4: week every month. You know, I just got back from

838
00:42:19,719 --> 00:42:24,080
Speaker 4: Ohio with youth and so I call my gold jacket

839
00:42:24,160 --> 00:42:26,319
Speaker 4: a key. And what do you do with your key?

840
00:42:26,400 --> 00:42:28,719
Speaker 4: You open your door and then as you walk into

841
00:42:28,760 --> 00:42:30,200
Speaker 4: your house, what do you do? You throw your key?

842
00:42:30,280 --> 00:42:31,839
Speaker 4: So I take my jacket off, I throw it down.

843
00:42:32,239 --> 00:42:34,719
Speaker 4: So I'm here, I'm here home. So when i'm when,

844
00:42:34,719 --> 00:42:36,719
Speaker 4: i'm when my key gets me in front of them.

845
00:42:37,480 --> 00:42:40,040
Speaker 4: And what's unique about it? Rather it's media. Rather it's

846
00:42:40,080 --> 00:42:42,719
Speaker 4: that gold jacket. I'm not sure. But it's not like

847
00:42:42,880 --> 00:42:47,520
Speaker 4: I have a generation gap. I'm in once I get in,

848
00:42:47,719 --> 00:42:51,640
Speaker 4: and then now when I start talking my story, they

849
00:42:51,760 --> 00:42:55,279
Speaker 4: find familiarity in it, because really there's nothing new under

850
00:42:55,320 --> 00:42:57,480
Speaker 4: the sign. Oh I grew up over here. I grew

851
00:42:57,520 --> 00:42:59,520
Speaker 4: up man, we did too, you know, So come on,

852
00:42:59,640 --> 00:43:02,080
Speaker 4: trust me. I don't care if you rich or poor, black, yellow,

853
00:43:02,400 --> 00:43:04,840
Speaker 4: trust me. If you're breathing the human you got the

854
00:43:04,880 --> 00:43:05,719
Speaker 4: same experiences.

855
00:43:05,840 --> 00:43:08,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, we all. We all got some struggles in there.

856
00:43:08,760 --> 00:43:11,040
Speaker 4: We got some struggles. I don't care how rich you were,

857
00:43:11,360 --> 00:43:14,319
Speaker 4: how great you were where you went to school. If

858
00:43:14,360 --> 00:43:18,040
Speaker 4: you're alive, your headache is just like my headache. You

859
00:43:18,239 --> 00:43:21,600
Speaker 4: need and an aspirin just like I do. You got

860
00:43:21,719 --> 00:43:24,120
Speaker 4: you get stump your toe just like I can stump mind.

861
00:43:24,200 --> 00:43:26,719
Speaker 4: So that's the privilege that I get, is that I

862
00:43:26,840 --> 00:43:30,840
Speaker 4: get to use that key, this childhood game that I played,

863
00:43:30,880 --> 00:43:33,920
Speaker 4: that gave me this level of recognition to access these

864
00:43:33,960 --> 00:43:38,359
Speaker 4: young people and adults on many levels. And then from there,

865
00:43:38,400 --> 00:43:40,719
Speaker 4: if you got something to say and some wisdom, then

866
00:43:40,760 --> 00:43:41,160
Speaker 4: it works.

867
00:43:41,480 --> 00:43:43,719
Speaker 1: We're gonna take a short break and we'll be right back.

868
00:43:56,040 --> 00:43:56,359
Speaker 2: All right.

869
00:43:56,400 --> 00:43:59,080
Speaker 3: Tell me this key that you keep talking about. I

870
00:43:59,120 --> 00:44:01,359
Speaker 3: think it's opened up and it's continued to pour into

871
00:44:01,440 --> 00:44:04,240
Speaker 3: so many others, and that is through your Darryl Green's

872
00:44:04,280 --> 00:44:07,719
Speaker 3: Youth Life Foundation. How did you come up with it

873
00:44:08,080 --> 00:44:11,680
Speaker 3: first and foremost? And then what was your initial goal

874
00:44:11,840 --> 00:44:15,120
Speaker 3: or thoughts that you thought you'd do? And then tell

875
00:44:15,200 --> 00:44:18,719
Speaker 3: me one thing that you're like, I know, but like

876
00:44:19,000 --> 00:44:21,400
Speaker 3: I'm trying to build the whole pressure. But it's like

877
00:44:21,800 --> 00:44:24,080
Speaker 3: I want to know how you know, how it came about,

878
00:44:24,920 --> 00:44:27,360
Speaker 3: what you initially wanted it to be, and then what

879
00:44:27,480 --> 00:44:28,239
Speaker 3: it's turned into.

880
00:44:28,760 --> 00:44:32,680
Speaker 4: All right, So I got to Washington, d C. I

881
00:44:32,719 --> 00:44:35,320
Speaker 4: would drive over to DC. We live in Virginia. I

882
00:44:35,480 --> 00:44:38,799
Speaker 4: drive into d C. What I learned through through time

883
00:44:38,920 --> 00:44:42,160
Speaker 4: and knowledge is that if you support and volunteer and

884
00:44:42,239 --> 00:44:44,560
Speaker 4: help people as a child, you'll do it as an adult.

885
00:44:45,239 --> 00:44:47,160
Speaker 4: So we did it. I did it cause my mama,

886
00:44:47,719 --> 00:44:50,279
Speaker 4: grab my ear, take that food over that of these people,

887
00:44:50,320 --> 00:44:52,160
Speaker 4: we will pour it too, like take that over that,

888
00:44:52,360 --> 00:44:54,600
Speaker 4: like you get over that here. But even if you're

889
00:44:54,719 --> 00:44:56,480
Speaker 4: forced to do it, you'll do it as an adult.

890
00:44:57,200 --> 00:45:00,200
Speaker 4: It's just it's in you. So I'm indeed, you see,

891
00:45:00,239 --> 00:45:02,920
Speaker 4: I'm trying to work with kids. I actually joined the

892
00:45:03,120 --> 00:45:05,759
Speaker 4: recreation department. They didn't pay me. I just I'm on

893
00:45:05,880 --> 00:45:09,520
Speaker 4: the team. We're doing all this stuff, Christmas events, all

894
00:45:09,560 --> 00:45:11,640
Speaker 4: these different things, and you're getting to meet all these

895
00:45:11,680 --> 00:45:16,480
Speaker 4: little kids. Man, he needs a diaper, he needs a jacket. Man,

896
00:45:16,560 --> 00:45:19,840
Speaker 4: he you know that ladies man like she's been drinking,

897
00:45:19,920 --> 00:45:22,399
Speaker 4: you know. So you I'm out there, yeah, out there,

898
00:45:23,040 --> 00:45:24,520
Speaker 4: even though I came from it. You don't see it

899
00:45:24,560 --> 00:45:27,520
Speaker 4: when you're in it. But I'm out there, like, wow,

900
00:45:27,680 --> 00:45:30,279
Speaker 4: this is crazy. So one night I drove home a

901
00:45:30,400 --> 00:45:34,320
Speaker 4: road called George Washington Parkway. I just started crying. It

902
00:45:34,400 --> 00:45:37,400
Speaker 4: was Christmas time. That kid didn't have the right clothes on.

903
00:45:39,280 --> 00:45:41,719
Speaker 4: He needed to dipeer, you know, all these you know,

904
00:45:41,920 --> 00:45:44,400
Speaker 4: And we got a little Hey, did you get a

905
00:45:44,480 --> 00:45:47,320
Speaker 4: piece of cake? Did you get a little toy? And

906
00:45:47,440 --> 00:45:50,160
Speaker 4: so God said to me, he said, Daryl, I mean,

907
00:45:50,719 --> 00:45:55,680
Speaker 4: what are you doing. I'm going out here. I wouldn't.

908
00:45:55,680 --> 00:45:57,799
Speaker 4: I knew I wasn't doing nothing. I ain't doing nothing.

909
00:45:58,560 --> 00:46:01,440
Speaker 4: Ain't no real I'm going back to the suburbs. That

910
00:46:01,560 --> 00:46:04,720
Speaker 4: kid ain't he met Darryl Green. I just not changed

911
00:46:04,760 --> 00:46:09,120
Speaker 4: his life, not one bit in reality. I called an attorney, said, man,

912
00:46:09,120 --> 00:46:11,520
Speaker 4: I want to start the foundation. I can't spell foundation.

913
00:46:12,320 --> 00:46:15,560
Speaker 4: I'm gonna do something. I don't know what. If I

914
00:46:15,640 --> 00:46:18,400
Speaker 4: started a foundation and I started doing food, clothes and

915
00:46:18,680 --> 00:46:21,359
Speaker 4: paying light bills. I had an office and I had

916
00:46:21,400 --> 00:46:26,120
Speaker 4: a little those you know the cassette tape beeph mister Green,

917
00:46:26,239 --> 00:46:28,440
Speaker 4: this missus Johnson. You know that I would try to

918
00:46:28,520 --> 00:46:30,799
Speaker 4: fix it if I could. Can I pay her bill?

919
00:46:30,920 --> 00:46:32,719
Speaker 4: Can I help us some get out of prison? Can I,

920
00:46:33,520 --> 00:46:35,880
Speaker 4: you know, buy this food? And we just did that

921
00:46:36,040 --> 00:46:37,840
Speaker 4: over and over there. I bought a van, we delivered

922
00:46:37,880 --> 00:46:41,160
Speaker 4: food edenberg bread. I remember now we able to get

923
00:46:41,160 --> 00:46:45,600
Speaker 4: food from bread from them. And then ultimately I had

924
00:46:45,640 --> 00:46:48,920
Speaker 4: a teammate named Dexter Manley, and Dexter was reported and

925
00:46:49,080 --> 00:46:52,680
Speaker 4: this is public that he couldn't read. It's my teammate.

926
00:46:53,719 --> 00:46:56,800
Speaker 4: Like man, so I'm thinking when I was in school,

927
00:46:57,000 --> 00:47:00,359
Speaker 4: kid couldn't read. Go up to the blackboard that day

928
00:47:00,400 --> 00:47:02,080
Speaker 4: the teacher is going to put us to the blackboard.

929
00:47:02,920 --> 00:47:08,279
Speaker 4: That kid start screaming in creating a problem, throwing spitballs,

930
00:47:08,360 --> 00:47:14,279
Speaker 4: kicking pull of girls hair. Because if they say that

931
00:47:14,560 --> 00:47:18,520
Speaker 4: you're so silly, it's better than you so dumb. Because

932
00:47:18,520 --> 00:47:23,080
Speaker 4: when I go up there, see Mike Man, you dumb,

933
00:47:23,520 --> 00:47:26,919
Speaker 4: but you being something silly that's cute. So I start

934
00:47:26,960 --> 00:47:30,840
Speaker 4: thinking about the academic side. Then I thought about the

935
00:47:30,960 --> 00:47:34,080
Speaker 4: fact that we want food stamps, free lunch, free housing.

936
00:47:34,960 --> 00:47:39,840
Speaker 4: So I'm thinking about academics, education, I'm thinking about provision.

937
00:47:41,400 --> 00:47:46,560
Speaker 4: Now I'm thinking about morals. I'm Christian. I understand biblical

938
00:47:46,640 --> 00:47:50,520
Speaker 4: processes and principles, so now I understand how to live.

939
00:47:52,080 --> 00:47:53,440
Speaker 4: And so at the end of the day, you think

940
00:47:53,440 --> 00:47:57,000
Speaker 4: about homeschool, church and government. The home really can do

941
00:47:57,120 --> 00:47:59,560
Speaker 4: it all. You can teach your kids, don't even go

942
00:47:59,600 --> 00:48:03,000
Speaker 4: to school. They can be homeschool, they can provide for them.

943
00:48:03,640 --> 00:48:05,200
Speaker 4: You can either and then you can go to church

944
00:48:05,320 --> 00:48:08,719
Speaker 4: or you can do church at home. And then so

945
00:48:09,520 --> 00:48:12,400
Speaker 4: when I looked at that, I saw the deficiencies in

946
00:48:12,560 --> 00:48:17,200
Speaker 4: these children where the government is saying, you know, I

947
00:48:17,239 --> 00:48:20,600
Speaker 4: remember I think it was George Bush, you know, welfare

948
00:48:20,680 --> 00:48:23,919
Speaker 4: of work, you know, But I grew up where people

949
00:48:24,000 --> 00:48:28,960
Speaker 4: lived in the projects for three generations, poor generations, and

950
00:48:29,280 --> 00:48:33,239
Speaker 4: so I was on food stamps, and my mom and

951
00:48:33,360 --> 00:48:35,759
Speaker 4: them provided the love and nurture. So that's what it is,

952
00:48:35,800 --> 00:48:41,200
Speaker 4: is love and nurture provision. That's government school, that school,

953
00:48:41,520 --> 00:48:45,279
Speaker 4: and in the church. That's really the four institutions that

954
00:48:45,400 --> 00:48:50,040
Speaker 4: support pretty much human beings in American soul. And when

955
00:48:50,080 --> 00:48:53,000
Speaker 4: there's a deficiency, then one take more than it came.

956
00:48:53,320 --> 00:48:56,759
Speaker 4: The government take over more, the church might do more. Well.

957
00:48:56,960 --> 00:48:59,480
Speaker 4: I am with the learning centers. Now I create these centers,

958
00:48:59,480 --> 00:49:02,080
Speaker 4: say I want to get the kids in here, and

959
00:49:02,160 --> 00:49:04,399
Speaker 4: I want to be able to manage that. So I'll

960
00:49:04,440 --> 00:49:07,520
Speaker 4: try to. I'm gonna marry mom and be the other

961
00:49:07,680 --> 00:49:10,239
Speaker 4: provision that she give the love and nurture. We'll give

962
00:49:10,280 --> 00:49:13,680
Speaker 4: the provision. We'll give the academics. We'll teach them. We'll

963
00:49:13,719 --> 00:49:17,720
Speaker 4: teach them biblical principles and will help raise this generation

964
00:49:17,880 --> 00:49:20,200
Speaker 4: back up. So that's how I created the Youth Life

965
00:49:20,280 --> 00:49:24,120
Speaker 4: Learning Centers. Presently, the learning centers are in Richmond, Virginia,

966
00:49:24,719 --> 00:49:28,560
Speaker 4: not in the DC area, which I'm sad to say, uh,

967
00:49:28,800 --> 00:49:33,239
Speaker 4: and in some parts of North Carolina. Uh. Maybe one

968
00:49:33,360 --> 00:49:37,000
Speaker 4: still left in Tennessee used to be Florida. But the

969
00:49:37,080 --> 00:49:39,399
Speaker 4: other other bad part about it is it's very hard

970
00:49:39,560 --> 00:49:45,759
Speaker 4: to raise resources for poor people because they're trying to say,

971
00:49:45,800 --> 00:49:47,960
Speaker 4: what do I get out of it? What do I

972
00:49:48,040 --> 00:49:50,320
Speaker 4: get out of it? Sometimes the sponsors won't help you,

973
00:49:50,960 --> 00:49:53,080
Speaker 4: and they will very hard on me, just say and

974
00:49:53,160 --> 00:49:57,480
Speaker 4: scrutinize me about how I gave or if I spent

975
00:49:57,560 --> 00:49:59,919
Speaker 4: too much money on them. I won't spend the money

976
00:50:00,080 --> 00:50:03,120
Speaker 4: on them. All of these people need this, they need that.

977
00:50:03,200 --> 00:50:05,680
Speaker 4: And then well, you went across the budget, so you're

978
00:50:05,680 --> 00:50:08,160
Speaker 4: not gonna give it to me. I'm not putting it

979
00:50:08,160 --> 00:50:09,759
Speaker 4: in my pocket. I'm just trying to help these people.

980
00:50:09,800 --> 00:50:12,279
Speaker 4: So I live with a lot of frustration. But I

981
00:50:12,360 --> 00:50:15,600
Speaker 4: did that my whole adult life, So yeah, you know,

982
00:50:16,360 --> 00:50:19,440
Speaker 4: I just I just took advantage of the revelation of

983
00:50:19,560 --> 00:50:22,400
Speaker 4: respond to the revelation that I had going down GW Parkway.

984
00:50:23,000 --> 00:50:24,799
Speaker 4: Didn't really know what I was doing. But then when

985
00:50:24,800 --> 00:50:27,840
Speaker 4: I pull it all together with this concept, it's a

986
00:50:27,920 --> 00:50:32,200
Speaker 4: human concept. Mom and dad for love and nurture, government

987
00:50:32,320 --> 00:50:36,359
Speaker 4: for food and provision, roof over your head, church help

988
00:50:36,440 --> 00:50:40,320
Speaker 4: you learn morals, and the school support you academically. That's

989
00:50:40,440 --> 00:50:44,120
Speaker 4: like alphabets ABC. That ain't no brain surgery stuff. That

990
00:50:44,239 --> 00:50:46,160
Speaker 4: was a revelation that I had. That's how I created

991
00:50:46,200 --> 00:50:47,000
Speaker 4: a learning centers.

992
00:50:47,360 --> 00:50:50,480
Speaker 1: Who would you say would be on your personal amount

993
00:50:50,560 --> 00:50:56,759
Speaker 1: rushmore of success? So you've had this amazing life, marriage, kids, grandkids,

994
00:50:57,280 --> 00:51:02,279
Speaker 1: amazing football career, hall of fame, seen some stuff, you know,

995
00:51:02,719 --> 00:51:05,600
Speaker 1: I don't want say a rough childhood, but you saw

996
00:51:05,680 --> 00:51:10,520
Speaker 1: some things. You know, You've had some friends, things like that,

997
00:51:10,719 --> 00:51:13,920
Speaker 1: You've had a very blessed life. Who would be who

998
00:51:13,960 --> 00:51:16,560
Speaker 1: would be the four people that would be on your

999
00:51:16,680 --> 00:51:20,640
Speaker 1: personal amount rushmore of helping you become the person you

1000
00:51:20,800 --> 00:51:21,560
Speaker 1: are today?

1001
00:51:23,280 --> 00:51:26,279
Speaker 4: And not saying, of course, obviously the Lord has done

1002
00:51:26,320 --> 00:51:29,640
Speaker 4: it all God, but I'd say my dad, my dad

1003
00:51:29,680 --> 00:51:36,759
Speaker 4: didn't know his dad he was. He became an alcoholic

1004
00:51:36,920 --> 00:51:41,400
Speaker 4: through his childhood trauma. Yeah, married, my mama, had seven kids,

1005
00:51:41,480 --> 00:51:44,680
Speaker 4: and just you know, in the Arab born in nineteen

1006
00:51:44,719 --> 00:51:47,760
Speaker 4: thirty three in America and all the stuff he faced.

1007
00:51:47,760 --> 00:51:50,160
Speaker 4: So that was that was. But I always loved him

1008
00:51:50,360 --> 00:51:56,480
Speaker 4: and I always appreciated him. I always and I've been

1009
00:51:56,560 --> 00:51:58,719
Speaker 4: pretty good at this my whole ad dope life. I

1010
00:51:58,760 --> 00:52:02,239
Speaker 4: can stand in your shoe, you know, you come in

1011
00:52:02,440 --> 00:52:04,800
Speaker 4: in a restaurant and you want to get an autograph

1012
00:52:04,880 --> 00:52:06,680
Speaker 4: or whatever whatever, I can stand in your shoe. I

1013
00:52:06,719 --> 00:52:09,920
Speaker 4: don't feel like it, but you know, as a professional athlete,

1014
00:52:10,040 --> 00:52:12,360
Speaker 4: you should be able to be really good at standing

1015
00:52:12,440 --> 00:52:16,000
Speaker 4: another person's shoes. Now, because you always stay from your band,

1016
00:52:16,080 --> 00:52:18,920
Speaker 4: well you believe him, Well, won't you stand in his

1017
00:52:19,000 --> 00:52:22,080
Speaker 4: shoes and see it from his vantished point. So I've

1018
00:52:22,120 --> 00:52:24,320
Speaker 4: been good at that. So my dad loved him. He

1019
00:52:24,440 --> 00:52:30,000
Speaker 4: was he was the best, really sharp dude, really highly intelligent,

1020
00:52:30,120 --> 00:52:35,759
Speaker 4: highly intelligent. Uh, so he'd be first. And then any

1021
00:52:35,840 --> 00:52:39,279
Speaker 4: people who have really helped me for what we call

1022
00:52:39,360 --> 00:52:42,480
Speaker 4: in christiandom discipled me. Helped me become more like God,

1023
00:52:43,880 --> 00:52:46,440
Speaker 4: help me to learn to follow Jesus. You know, Uh,

1024
00:52:46,640 --> 00:52:50,320
Speaker 4: Colonel Melendez and uh and his wife Jeanie invited me

1025
00:52:50,440 --> 00:52:53,359
Speaker 4: to their home in college. Doug Taff was the one

1026
00:52:53,440 --> 00:52:56,440
Speaker 4: that introduced me to them. I got to Washington, d C.

1027
00:52:56,560 --> 00:52:59,040
Speaker 4: I met Brett Fuller, who's a pastor and a bishop

1028
00:52:59,600 --> 00:53:04,120
Speaker 4: and the every nation church world. And then even I

1029
00:53:04,200 --> 00:53:07,319
Speaker 4: go beyond that and say that that my my son,

1030
00:53:07,640 --> 00:53:15,000
Speaker 4: and my wife and my girls have helped me really material,

1031
00:53:15,040 --> 00:53:19,719
Speaker 4: you know, really kind of realize, realize my life, you know.

1032
00:53:19,840 --> 00:53:22,440
Speaker 4: In other words, I'm out here working and and all that.

1033
00:53:22,520 --> 00:53:24,799
Speaker 4: I appreciate all the fans. Fans love me. I've been

1034
00:53:24,880 --> 00:53:30,480
Speaker 4: respected and they have a role. But but my my

1035
00:53:30,640 --> 00:53:33,080
Speaker 4: thing with them is I'm more trying to serve them

1036
00:53:34,040 --> 00:53:38,040
Speaker 4: in terms of a model of goodness. And I didn't know. Man,

1037
00:53:38,120 --> 00:53:40,279
Speaker 4: come on, you think I knew I was gonna play

1038
00:53:40,320 --> 00:53:40,799
Speaker 4: twenty years.

1039
00:53:40,960 --> 00:53:42,320
Speaker 2: Well, no, you didn't even know you're gonna go to

1040
00:53:42,320 --> 00:53:42,760
Speaker 2: the NFL.

1041
00:53:43,760 --> 00:53:46,399
Speaker 4: So so I think that for me, I never really

1042
00:53:46,480 --> 00:53:49,359
Speaker 4: kind of weirded out on that. I just felt like, Okay, man,

1043
00:53:49,480 --> 00:53:52,520
Speaker 4: this is a great opportunity. This is a It's not

1044
00:53:52,640 --> 00:53:56,080
Speaker 4: only an opportunity, but it's a responsibility. So I've had

1045
00:53:56,080 --> 00:53:58,640
Speaker 4: a good sober of my sober kind of a sober

1046
00:53:59,239 --> 00:54:03,560
Speaker 4: mindset about stuff. But primarily my dad and the people

1047
00:54:03,600 --> 00:54:05,839
Speaker 4: will have helped me because at the end of the day,

1048
00:54:05,880 --> 00:54:08,400
Speaker 4: what has really made me great is God and the

1049
00:54:08,520 --> 00:54:11,799
Speaker 4: revelation of who he is. I would have never been

1050
00:54:11,840 --> 00:54:14,960
Speaker 4: faithfully married. I mean, I'm not from that world. You know.

1051
00:54:15,239 --> 00:54:18,040
Speaker 4: I had all of the eight kids my dad had,

1052
00:54:18,440 --> 00:54:21,080
Speaker 4: we all had kids out of wedlock. We're from the projects,

1053
00:54:21,800 --> 00:54:24,880
Speaker 4: you know, we don't do good. It's not my history,

1054
00:54:25,800 --> 00:54:28,680
Speaker 4: and so I would have been changed, not by football,

1055
00:54:28,760 --> 00:54:31,520
Speaker 4: the money or people screaming my name. I've been changed

1056
00:54:31,560 --> 00:54:35,200
Speaker 4: by God. So I'm faithfully married to one woman thirty

1057
00:54:35,320 --> 00:54:37,600
Speaker 4: nine years and that ain't my history. My dad don't

1058
00:54:37,600 --> 00:54:40,840
Speaker 4: even know his dad and they would divorced. So I'm

1059
00:54:40,920 --> 00:54:44,640
Speaker 4: more grateful for that. I'm more humble by that. And

1060
00:54:44,880 --> 00:54:48,239
Speaker 4: those are those that's what affected me, you know, that's

1061
00:54:48,320 --> 00:54:51,480
Speaker 4: what mold me, should I say, and mold my decision

1062
00:54:51,600 --> 00:54:54,239
Speaker 4: making to marry her. I only knew her for I

1063
00:54:54,320 --> 00:54:56,440
Speaker 4: met her on Christmas Eve. We got engaged in June,

1064
00:54:57,480 --> 00:55:00,919
Speaker 4: so you know, you know, for me to the faith

1065
00:55:01,000 --> 00:55:04,200
Speaker 4: in God, the confidence, and you know, and people said, hey,

1066
00:55:04,320 --> 00:55:07,359
Speaker 4: you're gonna get a prenup. You know, I can't even

1067
00:55:07,360 --> 00:55:09,719
Speaker 4: spell that, you know, so I'm trying to. You know,

1068
00:55:10,440 --> 00:55:14,880
Speaker 4: I'm really I'm grateful because my real whole me is

1069
00:55:15,040 --> 00:55:17,920
Speaker 4: my faith in God and he is really he leads me,

1070
00:55:18,880 --> 00:55:22,160
Speaker 4: not so much some other hero that did something. Because

1071
00:55:22,239 --> 00:55:23,840
Speaker 4: when I was ten, I knew what I wanted to be.

1072
00:55:24,840 --> 00:55:26,960
Speaker 4: I still don't know what I want to do. And

1073
00:55:27,080 --> 00:55:29,160
Speaker 4: that's what we get it mixed up at We think

1074
00:55:29,239 --> 00:55:32,799
Speaker 4: that I do is our bee? For example, if I'm

1075
00:55:32,840 --> 00:55:38,160
Speaker 4: covering this guy, I'm doing this move, that move is

1076
00:55:38,280 --> 00:55:41,440
Speaker 4: not my bee. That's what I did. But we get

1077
00:55:41,560 --> 00:55:45,080
Speaker 4: celebrated for what we did, and everybody just looks right

1078
00:55:45,160 --> 00:55:48,520
Speaker 4: over the bee. Well who is he? Though you ain't

1079
00:55:48,560 --> 00:55:51,640
Speaker 4: see that movie made? Now? I said, who is he?

1080
00:55:52,960 --> 00:55:54,400
Speaker 4: Is he somebody you want to go to dinner with?

1081
00:55:55,760 --> 00:55:57,160
Speaker 4: Are somebody you want to get to just get an

1082
00:55:57,160 --> 00:56:00,880
Speaker 4: autograph from and go to dinner with. I'm more interested

1083
00:56:01,040 --> 00:56:04,839
Speaker 4: in that guy, and I appreciate that move he did.

1084
00:56:06,600 --> 00:56:09,719
Speaker 4: Who is he? Who is he being? What does he do?

1085
00:56:10,320 --> 00:56:12,120
Speaker 4: And we get really clouded with that.

1086
00:56:12,880 --> 00:56:15,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that dope.

1087
00:56:17,040 --> 00:56:20,400
Speaker 3: I got one question that's completely off topic because I

1088
00:56:20,480 --> 00:56:22,759
Speaker 3: don't know how many times I'm going to have Darryl

1089
00:56:22,880 --> 00:56:25,840
Speaker 3: Green here to actually hear his opinion. And this is

1090
00:56:25,920 --> 00:56:28,239
Speaker 3: something This is almost like being in the bottle shot

1091
00:56:29,080 --> 00:56:32,160
Speaker 3: and the goat conversation comes up. So I gotta know,

1092
00:56:32,840 --> 00:56:35,640
Speaker 3: who are your top three to four corners in the

1093
00:56:35,840 --> 00:56:37,000
Speaker 3: NFL history.

1094
00:56:37,800 --> 00:56:40,080
Speaker 2: Top three or four corners in his say four, just

1095
00:56:40,200 --> 00:56:43,240
Speaker 2: top three to top four? Well you can say three.

1096
00:56:44,600 --> 00:56:46,280
Speaker 4: Three, it's three three, Okay.

1097
00:56:48,040 --> 00:56:51,640
Speaker 2: This is this is a conversation that could go all

1098
00:56:51,719 --> 00:56:52,160
Speaker 2: type of way.

1099
00:56:52,200 --> 00:56:54,239
Speaker 3: I thought about this the other day because I was like,

1100
00:56:54,360 --> 00:56:58,560
Speaker 3: if I had to have a defensive back situation, who

1101
00:56:58,600 --> 00:56:59,000
Speaker 3: would I be?

1102
00:56:59,520 --> 00:56:59,560
Speaker 4: Like?

1103
00:56:59,560 --> 00:57:01,600
Speaker 3: Who would I get? I think I got one corner,

1104
00:57:01,600 --> 00:57:04,040
Speaker 3: I think I know then I think I know this corner.

1105
00:57:04,080 --> 00:57:06,040
Speaker 3: But now I was like, man, I might need a nickel,

1106
00:57:06,560 --> 00:57:07,680
Speaker 3: So who would be the third?

1107
00:57:08,880 --> 00:57:13,120
Speaker 2: And so this is I appreciate you putting me in

1108
00:57:13,200 --> 00:57:13,719
Speaker 2: your top three.

1109
00:57:17,160 --> 00:57:22,040
Speaker 4: Keep in mind it's it's dated. It is it's Darryl.

1110
00:57:22,760 --> 00:57:25,480
Speaker 4: It's not you, him or him. So this is Darryl.

1111
00:57:25,840 --> 00:57:27,800
Speaker 4: And this is what I This is what I saw

1112
00:57:28,960 --> 00:57:32,120
Speaker 4: when I came into the league. I saw Mike Haynes,

1113
00:57:32,920 --> 00:57:35,600
Speaker 4: so he was one of my guys. Actually I had

1114
00:57:35,720 --> 00:57:40,400
Speaker 4: him when I moved into my position. I saw me okay,

1115
00:57:41,440 --> 00:57:44,000
Speaker 4: and then the guy that was the take the handoff,

1116
00:57:44,600 --> 00:57:45,560
Speaker 4: Dion Sanders.

1117
00:57:45,880 --> 00:57:46,680
Speaker 2: He was in there for me.

1118
00:57:46,960 --> 00:57:48,720
Speaker 4: I'm not telling you one, two or three. I'm just

1119
00:57:48,800 --> 00:57:50,720
Speaker 4: telling you this is how I saw it. He came

1120
00:57:50,800 --> 00:57:55,400
Speaker 4: in Mike Haynes, then me as I grew into it.

1121
00:57:56,160 --> 00:58:01,280
Speaker 4: Then Dion came in behind us. And then now you

1122
00:58:01,480 --> 00:58:03,320
Speaker 4: may know this or may not know this, but I

1123
00:58:03,480 --> 00:58:06,280
Speaker 4: trained because I was just with him. I don't take

1124
00:58:06,320 --> 00:58:08,880
Speaker 4: credit for his career. But I was with Champbailey for

1125
00:58:08,960 --> 00:58:11,880
Speaker 4: four years. I remember I watched film with him in

1126
00:58:11,960 --> 00:58:16,400
Speaker 4: the mornings twice a week and on run on runky

1127
00:58:16,640 --> 00:58:20,840
Speaker 4: days when they went to Runkys, Coach said, take him.

1128
00:58:20,880 --> 00:58:22,920
Speaker 4: We went down the other end of field. We can

1129
00:58:22,960 --> 00:58:25,320
Speaker 4: talk about airplanes, birds and chickens what we want to

1130
00:58:25,320 --> 00:58:27,560
Speaker 4: talk about. But he was mine. Yeah, I don't take

1131
00:58:27,600 --> 00:58:28,360
Speaker 4: credit for his career.

1132
00:58:28,520 --> 00:58:33,720
Speaker 2: That's beautiful, like, hey, I got the super guy here.

1133
00:58:34,000 --> 00:58:37,120
Speaker 4: Take got him. Well, the great thing is that his

1134
00:58:37,320 --> 00:58:39,000
Speaker 4: humility and ability.

1135
00:58:40,080 --> 00:58:40,600
Speaker 2: He received it.

1136
00:58:40,760 --> 00:58:42,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, the first battle of Hall of Fame. I ain't

1137
00:58:42,880 --> 00:58:46,040
Speaker 4: taking credit for him, but I'm saying, and this is

1138
00:58:46,120 --> 00:58:49,920
Speaker 4: not before. He's not knocking my boys uh Anias and

1139
00:58:50,440 --> 00:58:52,320
Speaker 4: and Rod and and Derel.

1140
00:58:52,440 --> 00:58:54,959
Speaker 2: And I hadn't, I might have put As at the slot.

1141
00:58:55,040 --> 00:58:58,320
Speaker 4: I was thinking, yeah, but they Whatever we say is

1142
00:58:58,440 --> 00:59:01,280
Speaker 4: not to belittle agree. I'm just telling you me how

1143
00:59:01,360 --> 00:59:04,200
Speaker 4: I came in. Man, Mike Kynes, that's my guy. Then

1144
00:59:04,240 --> 00:59:06,440
Speaker 4: I felt like I moved right in. And then I

1145
00:59:06,480 --> 00:59:09,200
Speaker 4: feel like DM moved right in. Now somebody can say, well, okay,

1146
00:59:09,240 --> 00:59:11,240
Speaker 4: well put he's first, He's I don't really care it

1147
00:59:11,320 --> 00:59:14,640
Speaker 4: doesn't matter. But that's me. But all a lot of

1148
00:59:14,720 --> 00:59:17,080
Speaker 4: great corners, Well, I take that back. There's not a

1149
00:59:17,120 --> 00:59:19,480
Speaker 4: lot of great corners in the history. There's not a

1150
00:59:19,560 --> 00:59:22,479
Speaker 4: lot of great corners in the history that really play

1151
00:59:22,560 --> 00:59:27,520
Speaker 4: because that position. That's why I said, and your unique position.

1152
00:59:27,560 --> 00:59:31,240
Speaker 4: It is not a defensive back. It's a cornerback. It's

1153
00:59:31,280 --> 00:59:34,520
Speaker 4: a real life job. And they can make it different.

1154
00:59:34,600 --> 00:59:38,439
Speaker 4: If they just gonna play Cover two and three and four,

1155
00:59:38,560 --> 00:59:40,120
Speaker 4: then okay, it is a little bit different. You know,

1156
00:59:40,280 --> 00:59:43,160
Speaker 4: it's not the same. I don't feel the same pressure

1157
00:59:43,200 --> 00:59:45,560
Speaker 4: I feel if you call Cover three, if you call

1158
00:59:45,680 --> 00:59:51,680
Speaker 4: Cover zero zero, you're telling me zero it's zero, that

1159
00:59:52,080 --> 00:59:52,800
Speaker 4: he's zero.

1160
00:59:53,400 --> 00:59:55,920
Speaker 3: I like Cover one and Cover zero because that means

1161
00:59:55,920 --> 00:59:58,640
Speaker 3: you're gonna go hit the quarterback and I just got

1162
00:59:58,720 --> 00:59:59,120
Speaker 3: my guys.

1163
00:59:59,160 --> 01:00:01,760
Speaker 4: I didn't like Cover one because sometime it's safe, they're

1164
01:00:01,800 --> 01:00:04,240
Speaker 4: gonna knock the crap out of me. I didn't like that.

1165
01:00:06,120 --> 01:00:08,240
Speaker 4: I didn't like that. Man, open your eyes.

1166
01:00:08,400 --> 01:00:09,240
Speaker 2: Man, god.

1167
01:00:11,640 --> 01:00:13,800
Speaker 4: Man, you hit me in the back. And then a

1168
01:00:13,880 --> 01:00:16,800
Speaker 4: lot of them used to steal my interceptions. I'm fighting

1169
01:00:16,840 --> 01:00:19,840
Speaker 4: myself to death, and he come over and get the

1170
01:00:19,920 --> 01:00:22,120
Speaker 4: tip I'm trying to I've got played with him. I

1171
01:00:22,240 --> 01:00:24,040
Speaker 4: tipped it. I'm trying to go get boom me knocked

1172
01:00:24,040 --> 01:00:26,920
Speaker 4: me out. He just like with my boy Mitch. Miss

1173
01:00:27,040 --> 01:00:30,000
Speaker 4: got that pick. Now, I should have oppressed, you know,

1174
01:00:30,040 --> 01:00:33,160
Speaker 4: approached the ball better. But I was forty. I was

1175
01:00:33,360 --> 01:00:36,560
Speaker 4: thirty days from my forty third birthday when I walked.

1176
01:00:36,560 --> 01:00:40,360
Speaker 4: When that last game, in that game, Champailey gave me

1177
01:00:40,440 --> 01:00:44,760
Speaker 4: a reverse double reverse on punt and that's a record

1178
01:00:44,800 --> 01:00:48,240
Speaker 4: of thirty five yards for the oldest punt return in

1179
01:00:48,320 --> 01:00:49,240
Speaker 4: the NFL history.

1180
01:00:49,320 --> 01:00:49,960
Speaker 2: That's awesome.

1181
01:00:50,240 --> 01:00:52,040
Speaker 4: That is probably not going to change now.

1182
01:00:52,120 --> 01:00:56,280
Speaker 2: That's also why you have the record tied with Jerry Rice.

1183
01:00:56,360 --> 01:00:57,960
Speaker 3: Because this is what we do, is teach on this

1184
01:00:58,040 --> 01:01:02,200
Speaker 3: show as the most concessive years with a touch in

1185
01:01:02,360 --> 01:01:06,120
Speaker 3: the NFL as well, because you got it for twenty

1186
01:01:06,200 --> 01:01:08,520
Speaker 3: years because you had nineteen interceptions, but then you got

1187
01:01:08,560 --> 01:01:10,680
Speaker 3: the reverse that counted as a touch.

1188
01:01:11,000 --> 01:01:13,280
Speaker 2: So that's how you have to it for twenty years

1189
01:01:13,280 --> 01:01:17,400
Speaker 2: as well. There we go, so that it's all full

1190
01:01:17,480 --> 01:01:19,360
Speaker 2: circle on this show, because this is what we do.

1191
01:01:19,520 --> 01:01:21,520
Speaker 2: Another feather in the cat. Look at that there it is.

1192
01:01:21,680 --> 01:01:24,200
Speaker 2: See we're teaching you something there. If y'all can see

1193
01:01:24,200 --> 01:01:26,640
Speaker 2: his face writing, he is like well, I be dang,

1194
01:01:27,480 --> 01:01:27,960
Speaker 2: I like that.

1195
01:01:28,280 --> 01:01:30,080
Speaker 4: I like, no, what thing that came to my mind,

1196
01:01:31,720 --> 01:01:35,000
Speaker 4: which I appreciate now, like, hey, I can catch my

1197
01:01:35,080 --> 01:01:38,200
Speaker 4: own punt. Why I got to run a reverse? But

1198
01:01:38,400 --> 01:01:41,040
Speaker 4: I will say this is this true story. So after

1199
01:01:41,120 --> 01:01:43,680
Speaker 4: the game later on, when I go into the locker room,

1200
01:01:43,720 --> 01:01:46,160
Speaker 4: it's my last game, everybody we've been in staying for

1201
01:01:46,200 --> 01:01:48,480
Speaker 4: a few hours saying goodbye. It was really neat of

1202
01:01:48,560 --> 01:01:51,600
Speaker 4: course send off. And I'm watching it. I'm watching the

1203
01:01:51,640 --> 01:01:54,800
Speaker 4: footage as I'm doing my interviews and I see the reverse.

1204
01:01:56,040 --> 01:02:00,640
Speaker 4: I'm like, man, I'm retiring right on time because I

1205
01:02:00,960 --> 01:02:03,040
Speaker 4: still play. But yeah, dude, that would have been a

1206
01:02:03,120 --> 01:02:08,280
Speaker 4: touch And as you get older, what is eighty which

1207
01:02:08,400 --> 01:02:13,000
Speaker 4: is satisfactory to play? But for you it's struck? You know, Yeah,

1208
01:02:13,960 --> 01:02:18,720
Speaker 4: eighty is good? You you good? But I can't live

1209
01:02:18,800 --> 01:02:22,160
Speaker 4: with myself. Yeah that's not If I hadn't saw that, fam,

1210
01:02:22,840 --> 01:02:26,200
Speaker 4: I was like, oh my god, that should have been

1211
01:02:26,240 --> 01:02:30,680
Speaker 4: a touchdown. Dude. They I jumped over that guy like

1212
01:02:30,760 --> 01:02:33,560
Speaker 4: I was old man like, but it was good enough.

1213
01:02:34,200 --> 01:02:36,600
Speaker 4: Thirty five yards thirty five should have.

1214
01:02:36,600 --> 01:02:39,240
Speaker 3: Been And Darryl, I will be honest with you before

1215
01:02:39,280 --> 01:02:41,280
Speaker 3: we get out here, I mean you were an old

1216
01:02:41,320 --> 01:02:43,800
Speaker 3: man at the time, you were forty two playing football.

1217
01:02:43,880 --> 01:02:44,560
Speaker 4: It's beautiful.

1218
01:02:44,600 --> 01:02:45,080
Speaker 2: I mean, you're one.

1219
01:02:45,200 --> 01:02:47,240
Speaker 3: You're the only cornerback that's done it that long. So

1220
01:02:47,840 --> 01:02:50,280
Speaker 3: hats off to you, man, and thank you for blessing us.

1221
01:02:50,360 --> 01:02:50,560
Speaker 4: Man.

1222
01:02:51,080 --> 01:02:55,040
Speaker 3: This is awesome, great. You know, I didn't know what

1223
01:02:55,200 --> 01:02:58,640
Speaker 3: to expect and I was storoughly, thoroughly blown away with

1224
01:02:58,800 --> 01:03:04,320
Speaker 3: your humility, your stories, your your ability to reference God

1225
01:03:04,480 --> 01:03:07,560
Speaker 3: and how he's led you, how he's spoken to you,

1226
01:03:07,760 --> 01:03:10,760
Speaker 3: how he's continued to lead you, your beautiful wife, your kids,

1227
01:03:10,800 --> 01:03:13,280
Speaker 3: your family, the things that really are important to you,

1228
01:03:13,440 --> 01:03:16,960
Speaker 3: the children in the communities that you serve. Like we

1229
01:03:17,160 --> 01:03:20,600
Speaker 3: hear that, we felt that, and we appreciate that because

1230
01:03:20,640 --> 01:03:22,640
Speaker 3: so often, this is why we talk about this on

1231
01:03:22,760 --> 01:03:26,640
Speaker 3: this podcast and the NFL Player second Acts, is that man, like,

1232
01:03:26,960 --> 01:03:29,200
Speaker 3: we only know you so much through what we've heard

1233
01:03:29,240 --> 01:03:32,280
Speaker 3: through the TV, what we knew outside that helmet, but

1234
01:03:32,440 --> 01:03:34,520
Speaker 3: really getting to sit sit down with you and let

1235
01:03:34,600 --> 01:03:36,880
Speaker 3: you be in your own comfort zone. You got your

1236
01:03:36,920 --> 01:03:39,960
Speaker 3: shirt tucked out, You're telling us great stories, you jigging

1237
01:03:40,040 --> 01:03:40,560
Speaker 3: doing your thing.

1238
01:03:40,680 --> 01:03:40,840
Speaker 4: Man.

1239
01:03:41,000 --> 01:03:43,240
Speaker 2: I appreciate that. Man. I got a brand new light

1240
01:03:43,360 --> 01:03:44,120
Speaker 2: shining down on.

1241
01:03:44,160 --> 01:03:47,120
Speaker 4: You so, thank you. Appreciate that I've really seen I

1242
01:03:47,160 --> 01:03:49,120
Speaker 4: haven't seen your show, but your show is going to

1243
01:03:49,160 --> 01:03:51,120
Speaker 4: be a part of our life now. Thank you, man,

1244
01:03:51,280 --> 01:03:55,800
Speaker 4: wife and family. So we're going to be watching d C,

1245
01:03:57,000 --> 01:04:00,520
Speaker 4: d C, d mvuh. What's an the show?

1246
01:04:00,840 --> 01:04:07,400
Speaker 1: NFL Player Second Acts Podcast, NFL Players Acts Podcasts Podcast.

1247
01:04:07,560 --> 01:04:12,880
Speaker 4: NFL Players Second Acts Podcast is my show from now.

1248
01:04:13,560 --> 01:04:14,800
Speaker 4: So y'all let's check this out.

1249
01:04:18,080 --> 01:04:19,760
Speaker 3: We needed I like it.

1250
01:04:20,320 --> 01:04:22,800
Speaker 1: Hey, thank you for blessing us. Hey, thank y'all for

1251
01:04:22,920 --> 01:04:26,560
Speaker 1: tuning in and listening. I'm Peanut. That's room the Ageless

1252
01:04:26,600 --> 01:04:32,880
Speaker 1: wander Like, Share, Subscribe, Follow, Apple Radio, iHeartRadio, Apple Podcast.

1253
01:04:32,880 --> 01:04:35,600
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1254
01:04:35,960 --> 01:04:38,600
Speaker 1: this is the NFL player Second Acts Podcast.

1255
01:04:38,720 --> 01:04:43,880
Speaker 2: I'm Peanut. Hey, that was it. That's a wrap, Franko,

1256
01:04:44,200 --> 01:04:45,640
Speaker 2: that's it. Let's ride