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Speaker 1: What up, y'all? This is your main man, Memphis Bleak

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Speaker 1: right here.

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Speaker 2: Welcome to rock Solid, a production of iHeart Radio and

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Speaker 2: the Black Effect Network in partnership with my guys over

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Speaker 2: at Drink Champs.

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Speaker 3: You should nobody know you should nobody?

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Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, y'all.

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Speaker 2: You know what it is, back with another exclusive rock

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Speaker 2: Solid podcast. And I'm here with my bro, and I

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Speaker 2: mean my Brooklyn bro. He knocks it out literally when

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Speaker 2: he put that pain in. You know what he do now?

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Speaker 2: He out here in Vegas, big family man, married like me,

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Speaker 2: moving around, got all the brothers out here knocking shit

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Speaker 2: out from Brooklyn to Vegas to La. You know what

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Speaker 2: it is, man, I make some noise for my dude,

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Speaker 2: Zab and the motherfucking build it Zadjudiah, the one headed quittery.

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Speaker 1: What's up, my brother? How you been man? Blessed?

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Speaker 2: I appreciate you. Put up, man, I appreciate it. Niggas

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Speaker 2: don't know. We've been in the trenches.

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Speaker 1: A lot, bro.

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Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. Long time, YO, talk about

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Speaker 2: that a c fight. Were just out there talking about it.

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Speaker 2: This was back in what like two oh three?

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Speaker 3: This is this is so, this is the night that

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Speaker 3: Don King put on the biggest, the biggest show of

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Speaker 3: the night of the Yeah, I mean of the century.

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Speaker 1: That's right.

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Speaker 3: It was Hopkins, I see Rock Monk, Corey Spinks, Holy

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Speaker 3: phil Uh, it was me. It was just Champ. It

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Speaker 3: was so many champions. A champion for champion was the

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Speaker 3: biggest car. And I told everybody, I said, well, we

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Speaker 3: all can't fight because I can't fight you heavyweights. But

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Speaker 3: one thing I can do is I'm still the best

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Speaker 3: fighter of the night.

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Speaker 1: That's right.

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Speaker 3: And I went in there and called the first boun knockout.

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Speaker 3: And and how I promised Bleak was I told Bleak,

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Speaker 3: I said, Bleak, before you make it to your seat,

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Speaker 3: I bet excuse me.

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Speaker 1: Before Bleak made it to his seat, he was turning

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Speaker 1: back around to come. That's right, you're on his back

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Speaker 1: packets and.

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Speaker 3: And O G and Holve was right there watching.

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Speaker 1: Yo.

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Speaker 3: Hole missed the whole thing. When it turns his head back,

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Speaker 3: he was looking like like, yo, what happened is over

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Speaker 3: my g Like literally, I never forget I got the call.

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Speaker 3: You hit me like, Yo, Bleak, I want you to

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Speaker 3: walk me out to the ring, walk me to the

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Speaker 3: ring on the fight.

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Speaker 1: I'm like, hell, yeah.

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Speaker 2: Then we we were getting the dress rooms son back there,

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Speaker 2: do you know, hitting the bag, you know, getting warmed up.

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Speaker 1: And I said, y'all just thought.

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Speaker 2: I'm like, yo, zad, we can't go out here and

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Speaker 2: lose this fight, my nigga, we gonna look bad. I

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Speaker 2: think it's like lose lose cleek. Watch this, like he

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Speaker 2: said before I got to my seat. Over over, let's

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Speaker 2: go party, blaz. We're gonna watch the rest of Let's

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Speaker 2: Go Party first round. And we had a good time.

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Speaker 2: Yeah it turned up, yo, But let's go back for

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Speaker 2: the people. You know, they always want to know the

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Speaker 2: beginning the story. They you know, from Brooklyn everything. What

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Speaker 2: was it like for you growing up in Brownsville at

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Speaker 2: that era, that time?

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Speaker 3: And yeah, you know growing up Brownsville. You know, I

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Speaker 3: was born in seventy seven, you know, you know, so

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Speaker 3: I had you know, you know, I came outside in

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Speaker 3: the eighties. I was outside in the eighties. Eighties was

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Speaker 3: no the early eighties. I'm talking them, no joke, no camera,

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Speaker 3: that's no camera. That eighty eighty one, eighty two three

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Speaker 3: like it was. It was mean, you know what I'm saying,

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Speaker 3: And uh, yeah, I man, you know, I seen the epidemic.

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Speaker 1: I've seen I've seen crack come.

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Speaker 3: I've seen the come and tear everything up, smash everybody out.

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Speaker 3: I've seen the environment, everything changed, and I just stay strong.

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Speaker 3: I mean, you know, thank God for my mother. I

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Speaker 3: strong father. You know, my father kept us in boxing.

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Speaker 3: I started boxing at the age of five years old

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Speaker 3: say five years old, they say, how the fuck did

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Speaker 3: you fight a fire? I started training at five years old.

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Speaker 3: My dad introduced the game to us around five years old,

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Speaker 3: because that's the that's the only to me as a trainer. Now,

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Speaker 3: I know, you can't train the kid more earlier than that.

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Speaker 3: Why they don't have the fund the learning fundamentals of

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Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, five years.

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Speaker 3: Old is something where you can start introducing them to

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Speaker 3: Then there'll be more, you know what I'm saying, A

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Speaker 1: You know, that was one of my choirs.

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Speaker 2: Gonna ask you how did your father impact you know what,

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Speaker 2: I mean, your boxing? Because I know he he carried

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Speaker 2: the legacy first and then passed it on to you,

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Speaker 2: your brothers, and then now you passing it on to

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Speaker 2: your children. It's like, did you the legacy? Listen, don't

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Speaker 1: It was right.

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Speaker 2: They gonna put you on your back pockets. You ain't

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Speaker 2: gonna last one round. That's a fact. That's a your fact.

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Speaker 2: At what age did you know like, I'm not just good,

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Speaker 2: I'm not God.

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Speaker 3: So my amateur career I was. My amateur record from

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Speaker 3: six years old to eighteen was one hundred and fifteen

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Speaker 3: nineteen ninety six Olympics. So you know, I want golden

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Speaker 3: gloves three times. I want all of the tournaments national

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Speaker 3: golden gloves. So I feel like I took amateur boxing

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Speaker 3: from the bottom of the bottom, always at the top

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Speaker 3: of the top, because Olympics there's no higher to go,

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Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying. So I did that then

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Speaker 3: transformitt it right from there at eighteen years old to

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Speaker 3: nineteen ninety six.

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Speaker 1: By twenty years.

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Speaker 3: Old, I was the champion of the world crazy. So

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Speaker 3: I want to tell you all these numbers like this

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Speaker 3: guy because I want you to understand the timeline that's

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Speaker 3: right of how it happened for me, you know what

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Speaker 3: I'm saying, So you can understand. So when you hear

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Speaker 3: other stories about me, you can kind kind of understand. Okay,

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Speaker 3: I'll see why. I see why that was like that.

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Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. It was a fast, a

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Speaker 3: fast transition. It was quick. Eighteen years old, you turn professional.

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Speaker 3: I turned professional under Pernaial Whittaka. I'm Pernal Whitika. I'm

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Speaker 3: fighting old Wittiger called Boom. Twenty years old. I'm Champer

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Speaker 3: of the world, world Champer of the world.

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Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. You move every movie.

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Speaker 3: So now I'm the son of Brooklyn. That's the center

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Speaker 3: of Brooklyn. And there's no boxer coming out doing what

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Speaker 3: I'm doing. You know what I'm saying, Like you know

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Speaker 3: what I'm saying now, I'm meaning big, I meaning whole,

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Speaker 3: I'm I'm you know what I'm saying. It was everywhere

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Speaker 3: this movement. Foxy, Yeah already, Yeah, you was Brooklyn's son

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Speaker 3: for sure. You was probably only Brooklyn niggas that got

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Speaker 3: Foxy and Little Kim videos. You know what I'm saying,

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Speaker 3: They didn't messing with each other and they heard you

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Speaker 3: was messing up.

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Speaker 2: That's a fact that the first ship You're the first

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Speaker 2: athlete Rockefeller Rock relationship.

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Speaker 1: I believe they son.

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Speaker 3: Like so so no, I'm gonna take it back. It

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Speaker 3: was only Rockefeller, nothing else, No Rock Nation. No, it

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Speaker 3: wasn't even Rockaway yet Rockaway. It was because Rock came out.

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Speaker 1: You was the first one modeling there.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you ain't lying, damn that's the team. Yeah, first

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Speaker 2: you and then Sebastian Telfa. Yeah, damn, man, we had Brooklyn.

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Speaker 2: We was rocking Brooklyn.

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Speaker 1: Eything. Well you know, I mean we had whole leading us.

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Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. So, I mean, you know,

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Speaker 3: you know what they say, when you got a good leader,

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Speaker 3: everything gonna be gucci.

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Speaker 1: That's a fact.

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Speaker 2: Your style of boxing, like you know what I mean,

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Speaker 2: every box I felt like had their own style, but

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Speaker 2: you was the first boxer that really represented what we represent,

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Speaker 2: like an artist, like like you know boxes Mike Tyson

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Speaker 2: is Mike Tyson, like, you.

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Speaker 1: Know what I mean, Muhammad Ali is Muhammad Ali.

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Speaker 2: Like it's like when Ai first played basketball with the braids,

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Speaker 2: with the shorts hanging sagging, that's how you was you

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Speaker 2: in the ring with the with the trucks. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 2: pulling up all Brooklyn ship everything. It was like you

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Speaker 2: it was almost like you were a rapper, but you

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Speaker 2: being the one to introduced that to the boxing world,

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Speaker 2: that style, that Brooklyn swag?

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Speaker 1: You know what?

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Speaker 3: It was bleak when you was when it was happening,

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Speaker 3: I didn't realize it wasn't no no, no recollection of

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Speaker 1: I didn't know. I didn't. I had no kind of

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Speaker 3: As it started to move to move on, you know

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Speaker 3: what I'm saying, I could see how because when I

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Speaker 3: me like yeah, yo, zab yoyo.

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Speaker 1: Well I'm jay Z Jesus, I don't know.

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Speaker 2: Z y'all still get that question today, your random niggas

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Speaker 2: see me in the airport Yo, tell J I said,

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Speaker 2: what's up?

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Speaker 3: Like, like I got you?

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Speaker 1: I got you.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, And I'm like, bro, I if I burned into him,

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Speaker 3: I'll let him know. You know what I'm saying, yeahziness, craziness,

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Speaker 3: but uh, I mean you know what it was, dope,

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Speaker 3: I was in. I was embraced by the whole Rockefeller family.

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Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, Hope bring me in and

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Speaker 3: you know, kept us around and going from video to

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Speaker 3: video and coming to the studios and you know, forty

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Speaker 1: That was the office, blinking, that was the office.

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Speaker 3: That back room. A lot of a lot of money

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Speaker 3: talk in that backroom.

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Speaker 2: Man, it was shout out the desert, shout out to

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Speaker 2: the balls.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, world the desert.

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Speaker 2: And that's what I was saying, Like you always moved

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Speaker 2: like a star, Like what made it intentional? With your

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Speaker 2: image and your interests, Like because your interest is to

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Speaker 2: the fights with specially bro's like you. I go on

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Speaker 2: YouTube to this day and watch your fights, like because

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Speaker 2: you was.

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Speaker 1: That you was that guy.

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Speaker 2: Man, if nobody never told I know you knew, Like

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Speaker 2: you said twenty years old, you're the fucking champion of

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Speaker 2: the world.

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Speaker 1: So you knew, but you feel.

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Speaker 3: Like you know, you know why, because they play a

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Speaker 3: person in front of you that say this guy might

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Speaker 3: that tough debo guys stuff that go out the window.

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Speaker 3: He took a defeat. We don't take it serious. You're like, yo,

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Speaker 2: Now you fought them all, my nigga, line them up,

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Speaker 1: You know what, I didn't care.

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Speaker 3: You know what, I guess it was the Brooklyn upraising upraising,

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Speaker 3: Now you gotta fight him, Joe.

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Speaker 3: He said funk that you the other side, use the

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Speaker 3: no more, and you got to go back out there

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Speaker 3: early in my career that people say, you know, that

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Speaker 3: that's right. And then from there, I mean, of course

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Speaker 1: I mean that that.

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Speaker 3: The second fight was more intriguing, But people don't understand

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Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. I was promoted by Don King,

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Speaker 3: Want another shot. I ain't got no money. I ain't

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Speaker 1: But I mean if you could, if.

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Speaker 3: You could, if you can go over there and shake it,

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Speaker 1: What was it like working with Dog because he got

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Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying. I always that's what I know.

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Speaker 2: He put a lot of money in a lot of bread.

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Speaker 2: Then you hear you see the movies, you hear the

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Speaker 3: I think that when he he he good at he

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Speaker 3: you something, yo, blake, what up? Go outside? Look outside?

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Speaker 1: You look outside as the new road boom.

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Speaker 3: I can't wait that you were when you get to

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Speaker 3: you know how, when you get the new road, pull

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Speaker 1: Thinking about most paying for this? Who got with the

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Speaker 3: No?

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Speaker 2: Not?

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Speaker 1: At eighteen twenty? That means nothing.

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Speaker 3: You with the nearest club like with my first outfit,

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Speaker 3: Let me go and let me go put your with

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Speaker 3: Joe at yo, Blake, Yo, let's go. You know what

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Speaker 1: They got to turn up.

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Speaker 3: You ain't think about nothing else, you know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 3: So it's you know what I mean, at young agent,

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Speaker 3: But he knew how to do that. And then now

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Speaker 3: and if you're good here you fight running up. Now

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Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. You made a couple and.

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Speaker 3: He slided a little that little three, a little three

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Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. When the nigga flying that

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Speaker 1: What over that?

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Speaker 3: You know that that that billy? What why when the

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Speaker 1: It's real.

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Speaker 3: Remember you don't get this to later. You don't go

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Speaker 3: I'm cool, you know what I'm saying. And the whole

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Speaker 3: Nigga bought me a Bentley nigga. But you know I'm

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Speaker 3: that breath and then you that's the money you spent.

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Speaker 3: That's money you spend. You know what I'm saying. But

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Speaker 3: your another back. So all that old ship that you

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Speaker 1: Oh I'm good. You back, you back, perky cham cham chap.

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Speaker 1: I gotta.

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Speaker 3: I got a big one for your baby, A big one.

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Speaker 1: I think, come to you.

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Speaker 3: I got a big one for you, man, Corey Spence.

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Speaker 3: Can you can you can you beat that Corey Spence? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: I got him for you. Brother, I got him.

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Speaker 3: But listen, man, ain't nothing of that bucket over there,

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Speaker 3: I said, the opportunity, Yo, nigga said, the bucket is empty. Bucket.

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Speaker 3: And then you start to think as a fighter. Now

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Speaker 3: You can't beat me. I had him the first time. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: I want to fight you just forgot about the little

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Speaker 2: You had a record company. Oh my Jesus Christ, with

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Speaker 3: But what I say, I don't want to I don't

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Speaker 3: I made a lot of bread. I mean, he introduced

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Speaker 3: a great guy. Besides, I think that he had old

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Speaker 1: He came for that year. You know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 3: Like, you know what I'm saying that three for me,

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Speaker 3: I gave you something? Be happy with that and you like,

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Speaker 3: all right, all right? But every time if you good,

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Speaker 3: it's the opportunity. So the opportunity is bigger than what

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Speaker 3: the opportunity bigger than that, you know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 3: So for me, fight Corey Spence and win the undisputed championship.

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Speaker 1: Of the world.

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Speaker 3: You know what that means that that's like back in

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Speaker 2: People wasn't doing that. You know what I'm saying, endorsement deal.

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Speaker 2: Everybody just coming at in that bag at you.

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Speaker 3: I'm looking at I looked at it different. I didn't

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Speaker 2: Young and and receiving all that money like that, because

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Speaker 2: I know, man, shit, I'm a Brooklyn nigga just like you. Bro,

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Speaker 2: I'm eighteen years old, twenty years old, buying my first crib,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, seeing that, why we all go over there? Why

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Speaker 1: we all went.

437
00:19:38,440 --> 00:19:41,160
Speaker 2: Everybody used to beat up at the seventh eleven. Yes,

438
00:19:44,400 --> 00:19:47,520
Speaker 2: four boys.

439
00:19:49,640 --> 00:19:51,800
Speaker 3: Fact y'all. Yoah, that's tracy.

440
00:19:52,240 --> 00:19:52,960
Speaker 1: What was it like?

441
00:19:53,160 --> 00:19:57,320
Speaker 2: Like, how did you maintain like because you're not one

442
00:19:57,359 --> 00:19:59,920
Speaker 2: of those guys who blew it all because you can say,

443
00:20:00,160 --> 00:20:02,480
Speaker 2: like I got a nugget here from Dawn, but you

444
00:20:02,680 --> 00:20:06,000
Speaker 2: still learn how to make that nugget last. You know

445
00:20:06,080 --> 00:20:08,520
Speaker 2: what I'm saying, Like, how was that for you being

446
00:20:08,680 --> 00:20:10,800
Speaker 2: young that young? Because that's not easy, bro, A lot

447
00:20:10,840 --> 00:20:12,120
Speaker 2: of niggas doesn't Blue they bag.

448
00:20:12,359 --> 00:20:14,479
Speaker 3: I Thank God for my father, you know having him

449
00:20:14,560 --> 00:20:17,119
Speaker 3: right there, you know, him coming from Brooklyn born and

450
00:20:17,240 --> 00:20:19,240
Speaker 3: raised and you know, knowing how to shake him baked

451
00:20:19,280 --> 00:20:21,000
Speaker 3: from the seventies and six, you know what I'm saying.

452
00:20:21,080 --> 00:20:23,520
Speaker 1: So he was able to go, yo, listen, what's our

453
00:20:23,600 --> 00:20:24,000
Speaker 1: next move?

454
00:20:24,119 --> 00:20:26,320
Speaker 3: We get like he always was one of those that

455
00:20:26,800 --> 00:20:30,199
Speaker 3: either gave me the idea or sparked the ship up,

456
00:20:30,640 --> 00:20:32,399
Speaker 3: like yo, yo, yo, you ever thought about this?

457
00:20:32,520 --> 00:20:37,720
Speaker 1: And I never thought about that. You know, yo, you

458
00:20:37,960 --> 00:20:38,480
Speaker 1: talk about your.

459
00:20:38,560 --> 00:20:40,719
Speaker 3: Fucking all that while we're going through what we're going through.

460
00:20:40,800 --> 00:20:43,520
Speaker 3: Let's go start out on Yeah, how we how.

461
00:20:43,480 --> 00:20:43,879
Speaker 2: We do that?

462
00:20:44,359 --> 00:20:45,680
Speaker 1: I want to know. I was a fighter.

463
00:20:45,760 --> 00:20:48,320
Speaker 3: I was I was a fighter in the gym, doing this,

464
00:20:48,520 --> 00:20:50,320
Speaker 3: doing that. All I know is that I would look

465
00:20:50,359 --> 00:20:52,320
Speaker 3: at my father and go, oh, I like that. I

466
00:20:52,440 --> 00:20:55,120
Speaker 3: want that, and it's there, Yeah, sure, gonna make sure

467
00:20:55,160 --> 00:20:56,920
Speaker 3: I got it. He's gonna make sure he's dead. Gonna

468
00:20:56,920 --> 00:20:58,520
Speaker 3: make sure I got it, you know what I'm saying.

469
00:20:58,560 --> 00:21:01,920
Speaker 3: And it's done. And by him kept seeing my potential

470
00:21:02,040 --> 00:21:04,600
Speaker 3: as as you know, as as it went with the pros,

471
00:21:04,920 --> 00:21:07,880
Speaker 3: he started going, okay, yeah, this is this is him

472
00:21:08,119 --> 00:21:10,560
Speaker 3: and he dedicated more time and time and time and

473
00:21:10,680 --> 00:21:13,400
Speaker 3: time and with me everywhere him and my uncle Jimmy.

474
00:21:13,400 --> 00:21:18,080
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, piece of Uncle Jimmy, Yo,

475
00:21:18,359 --> 00:21:19,359
Speaker 3: that was my right hand.

476
00:21:19,720 --> 00:21:22,119
Speaker 1: I ain't gonna front this. Niggas gonna be mad me

477
00:21:22,240 --> 00:21:22,600
Speaker 1: saying this.

478
00:21:22,800 --> 00:21:24,560
Speaker 2: He gonna want to see me and be like bleak,

479
00:21:24,680 --> 00:21:27,000
Speaker 2: come on, I gotta come up on rock solid now.

480
00:21:27,480 --> 00:21:29,280
Speaker 2: But I ain't gonna front. You're the only nigga who

481
00:21:29,359 --> 00:21:32,400
Speaker 2: put that pain on Floyd, and you know the whole

482
00:21:32,720 --> 00:21:34,840
Speaker 2: everybody know that. They tried to say it wasn't or not.

483
00:21:35,000 --> 00:21:38,160
Speaker 1: That was a knock knockdown. That was a knockdown. So listen,

484
00:21:38,280 --> 00:21:39,280
Speaker 1: we just say the way.

485
00:21:39,320 --> 00:21:41,399
Speaker 2: I gotta give you a five for that because Floyd

486
00:21:41,520 --> 00:21:43,600
Speaker 2: put that pain there, so to be one to you

487
00:21:43,760 --> 00:21:46,240
Speaker 2: and Sugar Shane is the only ones I seen that

488
00:21:46,840 --> 00:21:48,440
Speaker 2: really rattled that tank.

489
00:21:48,560 --> 00:21:49,879
Speaker 1: It was like my nigga.

490
00:21:50,080 --> 00:21:54,480
Speaker 3: I was, Oh, you that nigga many appreciate.

491
00:21:54,640 --> 00:21:55,399
Speaker 1: So I heard up.

492
00:21:55,680 --> 00:21:59,720
Speaker 2: I was that fight because y'all, homies, that was people's

493
00:21:59,760 --> 00:22:02,080
Speaker 2: before to fight. I remember you even saying that he was.

494
00:22:02,119 --> 00:22:05,400
Speaker 3: Tired and he's to come to Brooklyn in Brooklyn, New York,

495
00:22:05,520 --> 00:22:06,720
Speaker 3: all that. You know what I'm saying. I went with

496
00:22:07,200 --> 00:22:08,800
Speaker 3: I came to Vegas and hang out with him and

497
00:22:09,040 --> 00:22:12,920
Speaker 3: vice versa. You know, I think in that fight, in

498
00:22:13,040 --> 00:22:15,120
Speaker 3: my eyes, what I seen from my sight with money,

499
00:22:15,840 --> 00:22:17,359
Speaker 3: that's what That's what got it. Because you know what

500
00:22:17,400 --> 00:22:19,800
Speaker 3: I'm saying, because Mike Tyson told us this. I remember,

501
00:22:19,880 --> 00:22:22,560
Speaker 3: you know, fast forward it was Burrow Tight. We were

502
00:22:22,560 --> 00:22:24,959
Speaker 3: sitting at mic house and Mike said, Might looked at us,

503
00:22:25,080 --> 00:22:26,760
Speaker 3: was in the cop. I said, y'all gonna, y'all gonna fight.

504
00:22:27,640 --> 00:22:29,000
Speaker 3: We're like, man, it's my brother.

505
00:22:29,119 --> 00:22:31,359
Speaker 1: I let his nigga. He said, you know what I'm

506
00:22:31,359 --> 00:22:35,480
Speaker 1: gonna fights. The money, brother, The money. The money. Brother,

507
00:22:35,600 --> 00:22:37,520
Speaker 1: You're not gonna be to deny it. No, No, I

508
00:22:37,520 --> 00:22:38,040
Speaker 1: ain't no money.

509
00:22:38,200 --> 00:22:40,080
Speaker 3: What brother, They're gonna give you so much money. Brother,

510
00:22:40,440 --> 00:22:42,439
Speaker 3: You're gonna look at that nigga like he the devil

511
00:22:42,560 --> 00:22:43,080
Speaker 3: sitting there.

512
00:22:43,560 --> 00:22:47,399
Speaker 1: I swear a true story and he never lied.

513
00:22:47,840 --> 00:22:50,520
Speaker 3: Yo said, they're gonna get so much money, nigga, They're

514
00:22:50,520 --> 00:22:54,399
Speaker 3: gonna look at him like he's the devil. Your brother, nigga.

515
00:22:54,520 --> 00:22:56,720
Speaker 3: He didn't come at your mother pussy, nigga.

516
00:22:58,200 --> 00:23:00,960
Speaker 1: Oh you know how I talk, Mike.

517
00:23:00,920 --> 00:23:04,879
Speaker 3: Don't give And I'm like, Yo, we're sitting there. No,

518
00:23:05,320 --> 00:23:07,800
Speaker 3: we both sitting there and he telling us this ship

519
00:23:07,840 --> 00:23:08,000
Speaker 3: and I.

520
00:23:08,040 --> 00:23:10,520
Speaker 1: Want to come out your mother pussy nigga.

521
00:23:10,359 --> 00:23:12,320
Speaker 3: Young, he said, But it's not a it's not a

522
00:23:12,440 --> 00:23:15,920
Speaker 3: bad things supposed to do. If you my brother, you

523
00:23:15,960 --> 00:23:17,280
Speaker 3: say you my brother, then let's fight.

524
00:23:17,760 --> 00:23:19,440
Speaker 1: We choose this. Nobody signed us.

525
00:23:19,400 --> 00:23:19,639
Speaker 3: Up for this.

526
00:23:19,880 --> 00:23:20,320
Speaker 1: That's right.

527
00:23:20,720 --> 00:23:23,760
Speaker 3: We choose to fight, that's right. We choose to be worried.

528
00:23:23,840 --> 00:23:26,320
Speaker 3: So how do you accommodate me? And I would sport

529
00:23:26,400 --> 00:23:28,200
Speaker 3: that were in as gladiators.

530
00:23:28,680 --> 00:23:29,400
Speaker 1: We fight.

531
00:23:31,000 --> 00:23:35,280
Speaker 3: That shit crazy, it's wicked, and yo, ain't it crazy?

532
00:23:35,359 --> 00:23:36,359
Speaker 1: But it's about it.

533
00:23:36,440 --> 00:23:39,760
Speaker 2: It's the same mentality as Shorty's in the hood because

534
00:23:39,840 --> 00:23:42,320
Speaker 2: then we laugh and joke without with our homies. You

535
00:23:42,400 --> 00:23:44,320
Speaker 2: fight each other and then be right back eating the

536
00:23:44,400 --> 00:23:46,560
Speaker 2: sandwich other. Let's split a here, let's split a whole

537
00:23:46,600 --> 00:23:49,720
Speaker 2: ge your hero together. So it was the same thing,

538
00:23:49,800 --> 00:23:52,399
Speaker 2: and we did it for no money. Niggas that have

539
00:23:52,440 --> 00:23:54,680
Speaker 2: a rock fight hit the homie too. Now y'all gotta

540
00:23:54,720 --> 00:23:57,399
Speaker 2: fight five minutes and you're back having a rock fight again,

541
00:23:57,520 --> 00:24:00,879
Speaker 2: Like shit was real. So I could see that mentality,

542
00:24:01,040 --> 00:24:05,240
Speaker 2: especially Mike being from the same place, Brownsville, Brownville. Your

543
00:24:05,359 --> 00:24:08,040
Speaker 2: niggas had to fight that is like, yo, yeah, niggas

544
00:24:08,080 --> 00:24:08,760
Speaker 2: fought in y'alls.

545
00:24:10,200 --> 00:24:14,240
Speaker 3: School, ain't I fought my whole block, my whole neighborhood.

546
00:24:14,560 --> 00:24:17,760
Speaker 3: They know't see this. They know I fort everybody and

547
00:24:18,040 --> 00:24:20,959
Speaker 3: love I see nigga, they tell me start, I'd be like, yo,

548
00:24:21,119 --> 00:24:23,440
Speaker 3: my nigga, let me tell you. I used to be

549
00:24:23,720 --> 00:24:25,239
Speaker 3: sick because you know what I mean.

550
00:24:25,240 --> 00:24:27,359
Speaker 2: I grew up without a father, my g and you know,

551
00:24:27,480 --> 00:24:31,199
Speaker 2: in summer, my my grandmoms is from Brownsville. I had

552
00:24:31,200 --> 00:24:34,159
Speaker 2: a grandmother lived in Tilden, and my aunt and them

553
00:24:34,240 --> 00:24:36,520
Speaker 2: lived in Rockaway Projects. And then I have family and

554
00:24:36,600 --> 00:24:40,880
Speaker 2: Marcus Gorvey all right there. So my summers I spent

555
00:24:41,000 --> 00:24:43,280
Speaker 2: in Brownsville. You know what I'm saying. So when I

556
00:24:43,400 --> 00:24:45,199
Speaker 2: used to go back to school and niggas be like, yo,

557
00:24:46,080 --> 00:24:48,080
Speaker 2: we he was at for the summer. Teacher start asking

558
00:24:48,160 --> 00:24:50,320
Speaker 2: niggas like, yeah, I was in Virginia. I was in

559
00:24:50,440 --> 00:24:54,080
Speaker 2: South Carolina. They get to meet I was at Brownsville.

560
00:24:54,640 --> 00:24:56,560
Speaker 2: To be looking at me like I'm glad you're still

561
00:24:56,600 --> 00:25:01,920
Speaker 2: with us. I'm because it was like I'm going from

562
00:25:01,960 --> 00:25:03,440
Speaker 2: the star to the vill.

563
00:25:04,040 --> 00:25:05,400
Speaker 1: It was like wait a minute.

564
00:25:05,440 --> 00:25:06,879
Speaker 2: Then I used to go out there and see how

565
00:25:06,960 --> 00:25:09,560
Speaker 2: much fighting y'all niggas did. Because back in the sty

566
00:25:09,720 --> 00:25:12,480
Speaker 2: niggas like what you said, bang bang bang. In the ville,

567
00:25:12,520 --> 00:25:15,800
Speaker 2: niggas like what you said, knuckle up, nigga, knuckle.

568
00:25:15,640 --> 00:25:16,240
Speaker 1: But thig about it.

569
00:25:16,560 --> 00:25:18,840
Speaker 3: We didn't come from the video game era, you know

570
00:25:18,840 --> 00:25:20,640
Speaker 3: what I'm saying. We was even before Atari.

571
00:25:21,119 --> 00:25:22,600
Speaker 1: You know that ship. We was before Tar.

572
00:25:23,520 --> 00:25:29,240
Speaker 4: We watched a try be birth in our hands for

573
00:25:29,359 --> 00:25:33,639
Speaker 4: your son, he gonna be like pop, nigga, like.

574
00:25:35,160 --> 00:25:36,399
Speaker 3: This one of choice, nigga.

575
00:25:36,400 --> 00:25:41,040
Speaker 1: That ship was terrible. But everything so.

576
00:25:41,160 --> 00:25:44,000
Speaker 3: Before that, what we had to do go outside and

577
00:25:44,200 --> 00:25:45,879
Speaker 3: we used to build go cut. You had to go

578
00:25:46,000 --> 00:25:48,359
Speaker 3: outside and make shit happened. You had to do ship,

579
00:25:48,480 --> 00:25:51,080
Speaker 3: like really had to go outside.

580
00:25:51,280 --> 00:25:52,800
Speaker 1: I think that's only a Brooklyn game.

581
00:25:52,880 --> 00:25:55,119
Speaker 2: You know. Niggas out of Chail don't know about Skelley.

582
00:25:55,560 --> 00:25:57,639
Speaker 2: You go to certain certain cities and be like yo,

583
00:25:57,720 --> 00:26:00,720
Speaker 2: y'all play Skelley. Niggas like, what's that? I think that

584
00:26:00,920 --> 00:26:04,359
Speaker 2: was only a Brooklyn game. Skelley by g or god

585
00:26:04,760 --> 00:26:05,680
Speaker 2: that that's crazy.

586
00:26:06,400 --> 00:26:08,720
Speaker 3: So Skelley, you put that wax in that, you put

587
00:26:08,760 --> 00:26:10,560
Speaker 3: that clay in the that top like you spent all

588
00:26:10,680 --> 00:26:12,359
Speaker 3: night doing your clay.

589
00:26:12,880 --> 00:26:15,159
Speaker 1: I know we used to be up doing the clay dumping.

590
00:26:14,960 --> 00:26:17,280
Speaker 3: It back, don't look right. Yeah, you gotta have a

591
00:26:17,359 --> 00:26:18,400
Speaker 3: style because your time.

592
00:26:18,320 --> 00:26:19,919
Speaker 1: Had to the flyers fire.

593
00:26:20,040 --> 00:26:21,000
Speaker 3: You had the fire.

594
00:26:21,160 --> 00:26:24,920
Speaker 2: Did y'all play Skelley like roofies? You like a nigga lose?

595
00:26:25,000 --> 00:26:30,400
Speaker 2: You get the rufous top rufus top about it. That's

596
00:26:30,640 --> 00:26:36,560
Speaker 2: going to throw the sewer right the sewer you got you? Yeah,

597
00:26:36,840 --> 00:26:39,040
Speaker 2: play for the top there, nigger top yeo.

598
00:26:39,160 --> 00:26:39,919
Speaker 1: That's crazy.

599
00:26:40,080 --> 00:26:43,720
Speaker 3: We play dodgeball and suicide.

600
00:26:43,800 --> 00:26:47,520
Speaker 1: Soon as I put the box into the hold the nigga.

601
00:26:47,320 --> 00:26:52,760
Speaker 3: Siga steam nigga y'all suicide?

602
00:26:53,320 --> 00:26:56,560
Speaker 1: Oh man, that was the Day's my cheek fucking But

603
00:26:56,720 --> 00:26:57,760
Speaker 1: you're in this business.

604
00:26:57,880 --> 00:27:01,760
Speaker 2: I watched you, right you you dealt with losses, satbacks,

605
00:27:02,040 --> 00:27:04,960
Speaker 2: you know what I mean, controversy through all of that.

606
00:27:05,440 --> 00:27:07,960
Speaker 2: How did you maintain your mental and like you know,

607
00:27:08,119 --> 00:27:10,440
Speaker 2: like these kids say, never crash out, bro, Like you

608
00:27:10,520 --> 00:27:11,760
Speaker 2: know what I'm saying, You ain't.

609
00:27:11,560 --> 00:27:13,920
Speaker 1: Never did nothing. Wow where you in the media and

610
00:27:14,000 --> 00:27:15,679
Speaker 1: were like damn, look at zav You know.

611
00:27:15,680 --> 00:27:18,119
Speaker 3: What I'm saying. I think it's because of my amateur

612
00:27:18,240 --> 00:27:20,960
Speaker 3: career that I won so much and was in such

613
00:27:21,000 --> 00:27:26,239
Speaker 3: a prestigious place for so long that you know, by

614
00:27:26,280 --> 00:27:27,800
Speaker 3: the time that I even got my loss. You know,

615
00:27:27,880 --> 00:27:29,639
Speaker 3: my my first loss was because Zoo. But by the

616
00:27:29,680 --> 00:27:31,720
Speaker 3: time I even got there, I was just numbed to

617
00:27:31,760 --> 00:27:33,399
Speaker 3: the fact that, yo, I'm great. So even when the

618
00:27:33,480 --> 00:27:35,800
Speaker 3: loss came, I still say, that's not a loss, that's

619
00:27:35,840 --> 00:27:38,159
Speaker 3: a lesson. That's why, because I know what not to

620
00:27:38,240 --> 00:27:40,680
Speaker 3: do next time. I'm gonna get another sucker up watching

621
00:27:40,760 --> 00:27:43,040
Speaker 3: the next time I come back, seven more body.

622
00:27:43,440 --> 00:27:45,879
Speaker 1: You know, then you catch another learning lesson. You know

623
00:27:45,920 --> 00:27:46,320
Speaker 1: what I'm saying.

624
00:27:46,880 --> 00:27:51,320
Speaker 3: Okay, okay, but but I'm I'm even in my learning lessons.

625
00:27:51,440 --> 00:27:52,240
Speaker 3: I'm bodying it.

626
00:27:52,359 --> 00:27:52,800
Speaker 1: That's right.

627
00:27:53,080 --> 00:27:55,440
Speaker 3: Go look at my losses, y'all. I'm bodying and the

628
00:27:55,480 --> 00:27:57,879
Speaker 3: law You're like, it's going like this, the whole fight is.

629
00:27:58,240 --> 00:28:01,000
Speaker 3: You're like, you know what the coodof You're like, wow,

630
00:28:01,200 --> 00:28:03,080
Speaker 3: that was that was amazing. That's right, you know what

631
00:28:03,119 --> 00:28:03,520
Speaker 3: I'm saying.

632
00:28:03,640 --> 00:28:06,840
Speaker 2: So you never dug no smoke, man, Like, we can't

633
00:28:06,880 --> 00:28:09,639
Speaker 2: beat everybody, but we definitely ain't gonna run from no

634
00:28:09,960 --> 00:28:17,560
Speaker 2: nobody never never, And that and that right there hold

635
00:28:17,640 --> 00:28:20,680
Speaker 2: more weight than any than anything, because, like I say,

636
00:28:20,840 --> 00:28:22,320
Speaker 2: I lost many fights in the street.

637
00:28:22,359 --> 00:28:24,240
Speaker 1: But I bet you the niggas I lost to don't

638
00:28:24,240 --> 00:28:25,960
Speaker 1: want to fight again. I want to fight again, you

639
00:28:26,000 --> 00:28:28,040
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. Because it wasn't an easy w

640
00:28:29,040 --> 00:28:31,840
Speaker 1: wasn't you and mine was different? You beat me, you

641
00:28:31,880 --> 00:28:33,080
Speaker 1: gotta fight the youter brothers.

642
00:28:33,720 --> 00:28:34,560
Speaker 3: That's more of us.

643
00:28:36,760 --> 00:28:38,840
Speaker 1: You got the whole family with a knuckles.

644
00:28:39,480 --> 00:28:41,840
Speaker 3: Ten of us. It's ten of us, all of us.

645
00:28:42,000 --> 00:28:44,480
Speaker 2: It wasn't a lot of guns. It wasn't It was

646
00:28:44,600 --> 00:28:47,880
Speaker 2: one gun to like ten niggas. So having four brothers

647
00:28:47,920 --> 00:28:48,720
Speaker 2: that could fight, and.

648
00:28:50,320 --> 00:28:53,560
Speaker 3: That was like having ten guns. Nigga have four brothers,

649
00:28:53,880 --> 00:29:00,200
Speaker 3: burn up, burnt up. That's a fact, real story, right.

650
00:29:00,600 --> 00:29:02,200
Speaker 3: So it was so like we was, you know, in

651
00:29:02,280 --> 00:29:04,959
Speaker 3: the daily news, Golden Gloves and in the news all

652
00:29:05,000 --> 00:29:06,760
Speaker 3: the time that they would not allow us to go

653
00:29:06,880 --> 00:29:09,160
Speaker 3: to the same high school. I went to wing Gate,

654
00:29:09,320 --> 00:29:11,560
Speaker 3: my other brother went to midwhere my oldie brother went

655
00:29:11,560 --> 00:29:12,080
Speaker 3: to Grady.

656
00:29:12,360 --> 00:29:12,400
Speaker 1: Like.

657
00:29:12,480 --> 00:29:14,320
Speaker 3: They said, no, y'all can't just go to one school,

658
00:29:14,320 --> 00:29:16,360
Speaker 3: he said, And we said why, He said, because if

659
00:29:16,400 --> 00:29:19,320
Speaker 3: one of y'all get into an altercation, we know all

660
00:29:19,360 --> 00:29:20,800
Speaker 3: of y'all are coming out, and we can't.

661
00:29:21,240 --> 00:29:26,360
Speaker 1: We don't have no no professional security break up. No,

662
00:29:26,560 --> 00:29:28,520
Speaker 1: y'all can't all go to school, yo, that's crazy.

663
00:29:28,560 --> 00:29:30,640
Speaker 2: We was even talking out there when you was talking

664
00:29:30,640 --> 00:29:31,960
Speaker 2: about the change Clothes video.

665
00:29:32,080 --> 00:29:36,120
Speaker 1: Shoot, dang man. You know else me and Dame on

666
00:29:36,240 --> 00:29:36,920
Speaker 1: good terms.

667
00:29:37,000 --> 00:29:39,320
Speaker 2: Man. We had a call with Norwy right where we

668
00:29:39,400 --> 00:29:41,800
Speaker 2: made a pat where he was like, Yo, we're gonna

669
00:29:41,800 --> 00:29:45,280
Speaker 2: make a truce. Nobody get on these platforms and disrespect

670
00:29:45,360 --> 00:29:47,480
Speaker 2: each other, right, And then he went on and dissed

671
00:29:47,520 --> 00:29:48,200
Speaker 2: me again.

672
00:29:51,880 --> 00:29:54,680
Speaker 1: Like that's my bigga, But you just brought up a memory.

673
00:29:54,720 --> 00:29:55,520
Speaker 1: You like your plea.

674
00:29:55,920 --> 00:29:59,560
Speaker 2: I mean, look, I didn't even know that you like

675
00:29:59,640 --> 00:30:02,600
Speaker 2: yo change clothes video. Shoot you and Dane was going

676
00:30:02,800 --> 00:30:05,360
Speaker 2: add it my nigga, yo. But I'm gonna give you

677
00:30:05,440 --> 00:30:08,520
Speaker 2: the context behind that. Right we was in the room,

678
00:30:08,720 --> 00:30:10,800
Speaker 2: he was telling State Property and all of them that

679
00:30:10,880 --> 00:30:14,200
Speaker 2: they're gonna retire like Hole. Because remember he was doing

680
00:30:14,240 --> 00:30:17,160
Speaker 2: the Fade the Black album, The Faid the Black concert

681
00:30:17,320 --> 00:30:19,640
Speaker 2: was coming up and we was doing to Change the Clothes.

682
00:30:19,680 --> 00:30:22,200
Speaker 1: So he back there telling anybody they gonna retire like Hole.

683
00:30:22,280 --> 00:30:26,240
Speaker 2: And you know, me, the reality guy of the crew,

684
00:30:27,240 --> 00:30:30,760
Speaker 2: we ain't retiring like Hole, none of us.

685
00:30:31,400 --> 00:30:32,360
Speaker 3: We fucked up.

686
00:30:32,880 --> 00:30:36,080
Speaker 2: If he quit, we better go get some jobs, nigga.

687
00:30:36,440 --> 00:30:38,920
Speaker 2: So Dane was mad that I was talking like that

688
00:30:39,040 --> 00:30:43,920
Speaker 2: and was and he said, Yo, you act like you

689
00:30:43,960 --> 00:30:46,760
Speaker 2: ain't with us. If you ain't with us, nigga, I

690
00:30:46,960 --> 00:30:50,000
Speaker 2: drop you from Rockefeller, y'ah, ain't gonna fronts there. That

691
00:30:50,080 --> 00:30:53,120
Speaker 2: shit sent me off the roof. That's why I was

692
00:30:53,200 --> 00:30:58,360
Speaker 2: that hot, like you gonna what what? Ain't no fucking way.

693
00:30:58,840 --> 00:31:00,959
Speaker 2: So that's why I was like, no, you gotta come outside.

694
00:31:00,960 --> 00:31:01,520
Speaker 2: We gotta fight.

695
00:31:01,640 --> 00:31:03,720
Speaker 1: D hold on, hold on, can't tell you what I see?

696
00:31:07,120 --> 00:31:10,480
Speaker 3: I see. I was there guy in the video, Shane Clo,

697
00:31:10,680 --> 00:31:14,120
Speaker 3: I what I'm bleak.

698
00:31:15,240 --> 00:31:16,200
Speaker 1: Niggas don't fuck.

699
00:31:16,480 --> 00:31:18,640
Speaker 3: I don't give I don't yo, And he had, wait,

700
00:31:18,720 --> 00:31:21,440
Speaker 3: who is that holding you? It was your man, Murder.

701
00:31:21,640 --> 00:31:24,920
Speaker 1: Murder Murder was holding. I don't give a fuck. These

702
00:31:25,000 --> 00:31:27,600
Speaker 1: niggas don't know. I gotta show these niggas.

703
00:31:27,640 --> 00:31:30,560
Speaker 3: I'm tired of playing with these niggas. I gotta show

704
00:31:30,640 --> 00:31:34,560
Speaker 3: these niggas. So me Joe said about like, wait, wait,

705
00:31:34,640 --> 00:31:37,600
Speaker 3: who are you talking to? I said, Yo, The nigga said, dang,

706
00:31:38,720 --> 00:31:40,840
Speaker 3: I don't give a fuck. I'm gonna show these niggas.

707
00:31:40,920 --> 00:31:41,560
Speaker 3: I'm not playing.

708
00:31:41,680 --> 00:31:43,040
Speaker 1: Don't play with my man name.

709
00:31:43,400 --> 00:31:45,120
Speaker 3: I mean not like that pause. It was like like

710
00:31:45,280 --> 00:31:47,440
Speaker 3: it was like you know, like you're talking about holding

711
00:31:47,480 --> 00:31:49,720
Speaker 3: that hole, like don't play with our names.

712
00:31:49,760 --> 00:31:52,280
Speaker 2: He said it will drop me right nigga, you ain't

713
00:31:52,360 --> 00:31:55,960
Speaker 2: signed me, but it's my company. And I'm like, what

714
00:31:56,920 --> 00:31:57,440
Speaker 2: fuck that?

715
00:31:57,800 --> 00:31:58,320
Speaker 1: I that?

716
00:31:58,520 --> 00:31:58,720
Speaker 3: Yeah?

717
00:31:58,840 --> 00:32:01,720
Speaker 1: I was, I was right there right there. That was crazy.

718
00:32:01,840 --> 00:32:03,920
Speaker 2: Gave me the major threat. That's a that's a threat,

719
00:32:04,000 --> 00:32:06,280
Speaker 2: your threat and artist drop you, nigga?

720
00:32:06,560 --> 00:32:09,600
Speaker 1: What crazy? We gotta fight now?

721
00:32:09,960 --> 00:32:13,240
Speaker 2: Remember Dame the o G So I'm even mad that

722
00:32:13,400 --> 00:32:19,040
Speaker 2: it's even a public too public, Yes, jus to argue

723
00:32:19,040 --> 00:32:22,600
Speaker 2: with like that, bro, you know what I'm saying, Like

724
00:32:23,040 --> 00:32:26,000
Speaker 2: that's why. And I never me and Dame never had

725
00:32:26,040 --> 00:32:29,160
Speaker 2: a face to face. I don't think since that day crazy.

726
00:32:29,280 --> 00:32:31,560
Speaker 2: I spoke him on the phone, but I never seen

727
00:32:31,760 --> 00:32:32,640
Speaker 2: Dame again. Bro.

728
00:32:33,240 --> 00:32:35,640
Speaker 1: It's crazy to me, like he.

729
00:32:35,680 --> 00:32:37,600
Speaker 3: Got he got different energy, he got, you know, plusing

730
00:32:37,640 --> 00:32:40,400
Speaker 3: to give me boxing to you know he listen, that

731
00:32:40,560 --> 00:32:41,479
Speaker 3: ain't no work with him.

732
00:32:41,800 --> 00:32:44,360
Speaker 1: Know that ain't no sucker. Ladies, you got to approach

733
00:32:44,480 --> 00:32:48,400
Speaker 1: Dame with that pissed caution. He was, he gonna he's gonna.

734
00:32:48,160 --> 00:32:50,760
Speaker 3: Give it to you that he's gonna give it to you.

735
00:32:51,000 --> 00:32:53,480
Speaker 3: You know how to fight, ain't. I've been in the

736
00:32:53,520 --> 00:32:56,480
Speaker 3: gym with him, Chelsea piss, I've been in It's way back.

737
00:32:56,880 --> 00:33:01,600
Speaker 3: I see game fight Keith Murray by Nigga Orleans bro

738
00:33:02,200 --> 00:33:08,000
Speaker 3: outside no gloves Keith Murray, Brawler at the Airport by

739
00:33:08,120 --> 00:33:09,040
Speaker 3: Nigga Wild.

740
00:33:09,200 --> 00:33:11,360
Speaker 1: So like no, dame't know how to fight. I ain't

741
00:33:11,400 --> 00:33:17,280
Speaker 1: gonna all niggas that went through just who got sucked up.

742
00:33:17,600 --> 00:33:21,240
Speaker 4: Nobody got sucked up.

743
00:33:21,520 --> 00:33:23,520
Speaker 2: But they didn't hit Damon there with a bottle. That's

744
00:33:23,520 --> 00:33:25,320
Speaker 2: when he got hit Dad with the battle. We got

745
00:33:25,360 --> 00:33:26,320
Speaker 2: the stitches, you know what I mean.

746
00:33:27,720 --> 00:33:29,360
Speaker 1: Different had some.

747
00:33:29,480 --> 00:33:34,520
Speaker 3: Brawls, man, Keith Murray, niggas different, The niggas was wild.

748
00:33:35,000 --> 00:33:36,240
Speaker 1: We had major brawls.

749
00:33:36,320 --> 00:33:36,480
Speaker 2: Man.

750
00:33:36,600 --> 00:33:38,880
Speaker 1: That's back then, man. But it ain't about us.

751
00:33:39,080 --> 00:33:42,760
Speaker 3: We here with you. They gotta legend zab you know

752
00:33:42,800 --> 00:33:43,200
Speaker 3: what I mean?

753
00:33:43,840 --> 00:33:43,959
Speaker 1: Yo?

754
00:33:44,240 --> 00:33:48,239
Speaker 2: So when did you realize your career was bigger than

755
00:33:48,280 --> 00:33:49,040
Speaker 2: the boxing ring?

756
00:33:51,800 --> 00:33:54,560
Speaker 1: He still never never?

757
00:33:54,800 --> 00:33:58,040
Speaker 3: I never never, man, I always. You know what it

758
00:33:58,160 --> 00:34:00,600
Speaker 3: come a town when they say it's a stigma. It

759
00:34:00,720 --> 00:34:03,480
Speaker 3: says you only as good as your last fight. You

760
00:34:03,520 --> 00:34:04,800
Speaker 3: know what I'm saying, So you only is good at

761
00:34:04,840 --> 00:34:06,880
Speaker 3: the last thing that you did in the ring, you

762
00:34:06,920 --> 00:34:08,160
Speaker 3: know what I'm saying. So when it comes to a

763
00:34:08,200 --> 00:34:10,560
Speaker 3: standpoint when maybe a couple of years go by and

764
00:34:10,640 --> 00:34:13,239
Speaker 3: you didn't do anything, what is your worth now?

765
00:34:13,480 --> 00:34:14,880
Speaker 1: What is your network?

766
00:34:14,960 --> 00:34:16,920
Speaker 3: So it's not even a game about nobody telling you

767
00:34:17,000 --> 00:34:19,000
Speaker 3: that this is your mental These are the games that

768
00:34:19,120 --> 00:34:22,360
Speaker 3: boxers play, the mental games with their self, you know

769
00:34:22,440 --> 00:34:23,880
Speaker 3: what I'm saying, Like, Damn, I ain't been the ring

770
00:34:23,960 --> 00:34:25,879
Speaker 3: in a while. Am I still that good?

771
00:34:27,200 --> 00:34:27,839
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.

772
00:34:28,400 --> 00:34:31,520
Speaker 3: I mean, but but but but they we questioned ourselves,

773
00:34:31,680 --> 00:34:33,640
Speaker 3: I'm damn, am I doing? Do I still got it?

774
00:34:34,280 --> 00:34:34,480
Speaker 1: Yeah?

775
00:34:34,480 --> 00:34:36,160
Speaker 3: I went to the gymer to day. My ship wasn't

776
00:34:36,719 --> 00:34:38,879
Speaker 3: wasn't cracking like how I was cracking with that Mayweather fight.

777
00:34:38,960 --> 00:34:41,640
Speaker 3: I ain't got that, you know what I'm saying. So

778
00:34:41,719 --> 00:34:44,319
Speaker 3: you started playing psychological game with yourself and then that's

779
00:34:44,360 --> 00:34:48,680
Speaker 3: when the seas coming me. I ain't gonna lie bleak Brooklyn.

780
00:34:48,800 --> 00:34:51,520
Speaker 3: I was one of those that that shit didn't play

781
00:34:51,560 --> 00:34:53,839
Speaker 3: with me. I ain't play with it. Sooner I find

782
00:34:53,880 --> 00:34:55,919
Speaker 3: that punkshit going on, I go to the gym and train,

783
00:34:56,080 --> 00:34:58,480
Speaker 3: or I go running. I'll do I'll go outside we

784
00:34:58,560 --> 00:35:00,480
Speaker 3: do we do some wild ship and I'm like, it

785
00:35:00,600 --> 00:35:02,400
Speaker 3: go right out my brain. Yeah, you know what I mean.

786
00:35:02,480 --> 00:35:04,360
Speaker 3: So that's what when people see me back in the

787
00:35:04,520 --> 00:35:07,040
Speaker 3: days turned up to the max, that's probably I was

788
00:35:07,080 --> 00:35:09,520
Speaker 3: trying to get that that sucking ship off my chest.

789
00:35:09,520 --> 00:35:11,759
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. I was out with myself, you.

790
00:35:11,800 --> 00:35:15,560
Speaker 3: Know what I mean, bounces and nightclubs, these big seven

791
00:35:15,840 --> 00:35:18,000
Speaker 3: niggas that I had fights with, you know what I'm saying.

792
00:35:18,480 --> 00:35:21,319
Speaker 1: New York City like a lot, like I'm going now,

793
00:35:21,360 --> 00:35:23,480
Speaker 1: I'm tell him I'm knocking somebody out.

794
00:35:23,719 --> 00:35:26,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, Like it's crazy. The ton I don't forget about

795
00:35:26,760 --> 00:35:29,320
Speaker 3: Jesus christ Man. Listen, I got my man. After I

796
00:35:29,360 --> 00:35:31,319
Speaker 3: forgot my man, the head guy named the black Dude,

797
00:35:31,320 --> 00:35:32,640
Speaker 3: I forgot anybody got cool.

798
00:35:32,680 --> 00:35:34,800
Speaker 1: I know it was crazy, you know what the nigga

799
00:35:34,920 --> 00:35:36,839
Speaker 1: all of them was police. There was all police. There

800
00:35:36,880 --> 00:35:37,239
Speaker 1: was all.

801
00:35:38,880 --> 00:35:43,080
Speaker 3: It was all police, the undercover police. Glenn Man, Glenn

802
00:35:43,920 --> 00:35:45,960
Speaker 3: all them hip hop. But Glenn, I tell you I

803
00:35:46,080 --> 00:35:47,880
Speaker 3: was fighting this. I was fighting his workers. He's like,

804
00:35:48,000 --> 00:35:50,560
Speaker 3: I was like, call me that, what's wrong with you?

805
00:35:51,040 --> 00:35:53,200
Speaker 3: That big nigga told me he's gonna pick me up

806
00:35:53,200 --> 00:35:54,080
Speaker 3: and throw me out of the door.

807
00:35:54,120 --> 00:35:56,560
Speaker 1: In my head, No, we ain't having that, yo.

808
00:35:56,680 --> 00:36:00,719
Speaker 2: They used to wile niggas up in the turn security

809
00:36:00,840 --> 00:36:05,719
Speaker 2: with violate niggas, man violate. How you all bloodied the

810
00:36:05,920 --> 00:36:13,040
Speaker 2: fuck up in the ton It was crazy, yo, That's

811
00:36:13,080 --> 00:36:15,000
Speaker 2: what I'm saying. As a boxer, Like you know, a

812
00:36:15,080 --> 00:36:18,120
Speaker 2: lot of boxes now they try to affiliate with hip

813
00:36:18,160 --> 00:36:21,080
Speaker 2: hop and you know, have artists come out walk them out.

814
00:36:21,480 --> 00:36:23,840
Speaker 2: I say, like you was the first one to transition

815
00:36:23,960 --> 00:36:26,319
Speaker 2: that one because you're not only Rockefeller, you even had

816
00:36:26,360 --> 00:36:29,839
Speaker 2: the links with dip set, like you said Foxy Kim.

817
00:36:30,640 --> 00:36:33,720
Speaker 2: Like a lot of artists you turn on any music

818
00:36:33,840 --> 00:36:37,200
Speaker 2: video back in the early the late nineties early two thousands,

819
00:36:37,320 --> 00:36:41,239
Speaker 2: Zad was in them, like how did your hip hop affiliation?

820
00:36:41,480 --> 00:36:43,239
Speaker 2: Did these artists used to reach out to you or

821
00:36:43,280 --> 00:36:46,200
Speaker 2: it just was like fuck, I'm outside, nigga, I'm just

822
00:36:46,280 --> 00:36:47,960
Speaker 2: pulling up blink.

823
00:36:48,200 --> 00:36:51,520
Speaker 3: I was in a tunnel and jay Z and Master

824
00:36:51,560 --> 00:36:55,080
Speaker 3: If he came alaha remember that night? Do you remember

825
00:36:55,160 --> 00:36:56,560
Speaker 3: that night when he did?

826
00:36:57,560 --> 00:37:02,040
Speaker 1: It was real tard dick. What I'm saying, I'm going

827
00:37:02,160 --> 00:37:02,440
Speaker 1: You know.

828
00:37:03,719 --> 00:37:05,840
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. You know, I just understood.

829
00:37:05,920 --> 00:37:08,319
Speaker 2: I never knew how you got with the dip set crew,

830
00:37:08,480 --> 00:37:10,640
Speaker 2: like how that relationship started to.

831
00:37:11,040 --> 00:37:16,320
Speaker 3: Just going to Harlem, girl shaking girls people, Brownville with

832
00:37:16,360 --> 00:37:18,000
Speaker 3: stupid heart. I got my.

833
00:37:18,080 --> 00:37:21,279
Speaker 1: Brothers and they're like, you know, Joe Joe studying.

834
00:37:23,239 --> 00:37:23,439
Speaker 3: Chow.

835
00:37:23,520 --> 00:37:26,920
Speaker 1: You call the phone and hall of what, let's go

836
00:37:27,360 --> 00:37:27,759
Speaker 1: we out.

837
00:37:28,640 --> 00:37:35,960
Speaker 3: You're gonna shout out Joe, Joe word, you know Joe.

838
00:37:37,360 --> 00:37:39,160
Speaker 1: He following them, following them all.

839
00:37:39,239 --> 00:37:40,520
Speaker 3: Yo, I'm coming, I'm coming.

840
00:37:40,960 --> 00:37:41,560
Speaker 1: I want to wait.

841
00:37:41,600 --> 00:37:46,080
Speaker 3: We in Harlem now we were, we were Vava's up.

842
00:37:46,120 --> 00:37:49,239
Speaker 3: We were so we chilling cam and all them coming through.

843
00:37:49,280 --> 00:37:51,680
Speaker 3: You know they ain't looking. But no, me can't have relationship.

844
00:37:51,760 --> 00:37:54,359
Speaker 3: And we live in t neck from the plane basketball course.

845
00:37:54,440 --> 00:37:56,120
Speaker 1: Here we go back. You know what I'm saying.

846
00:37:56,160 --> 00:37:58,320
Speaker 3: All the rappers, that was rap up Rose, that was

847
00:37:58,840 --> 00:38:01,759
Speaker 3: you know, I said, wrap up road crazy and never

848
00:38:01,840 --> 00:38:03,760
Speaker 3: got cool, you know, from him seeing me and harlling

849
00:38:03,840 --> 00:38:06,200
Speaker 3: and bugging out and me with my with my crew,

850
00:38:06,280 --> 00:38:08,600
Speaker 3: and it was cool. It was record cool. All niggas.

851
00:38:08,600 --> 00:38:10,320
Speaker 3: Then we used to come outside kick on the bucket.

852
00:38:10,560 --> 00:38:12,600
Speaker 3: I didn't drink and smoke back then, but I will

853
00:38:12,600 --> 00:38:13,400
Speaker 3: always come outside and.

854
00:38:13,440 --> 00:38:15,120
Speaker 1: Kick it with him. Crack jokes, bug for like an

855
00:38:15,120 --> 00:38:16,680
Speaker 1: hour or two and then blow out.

856
00:38:16,719 --> 00:38:18,279
Speaker 3: You know me, I was looking for other things, you

857
00:38:18,360 --> 00:38:21,080
Speaker 3: know what I'm saying, Like I had a rabbit trap

858
00:38:21,160 --> 00:38:22,359
Speaker 3: on the ground. You know what I'm saying.

859
00:38:22,960 --> 00:38:23,319
Speaker 1: One thing.

860
00:38:23,440 --> 00:38:27,239
Speaker 2: I respected you too, like after life, after boxing, you

861
00:38:27,440 --> 00:38:30,880
Speaker 2: still involved, Like because Devin Haney, you know what I mean.

862
00:38:30,960 --> 00:38:33,120
Speaker 2: Now you say all the time that's my family. I

863
00:38:33,440 --> 00:38:35,840
Speaker 2: seen them as a baby grow up, so I know

864
00:38:36,040 --> 00:38:38,439
Speaker 2: you had some input on that. As Pops is man cool.

865
00:38:38,480 --> 00:38:41,040
Speaker 2: You know my dog fresh Sea lot them. You tell

866
00:38:41,120 --> 00:38:43,200
Speaker 2: me Devin gonna beat the world, up beat the world.

867
00:38:43,239 --> 00:38:46,920
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, Man, I appreciate where Devin

868
00:38:47,040 --> 00:38:49,480
Speaker 3: is at today because you know how these blick is

869
00:38:49,520 --> 00:38:51,600
Speaker 3: like you would hove. You know what I'm saying. I'm

870
00:38:51,600 --> 00:38:53,040
Speaker 3: pretty sure I hope it's proud of you. I mean

871
00:38:53,080 --> 00:38:54,960
Speaker 3: like it's the other way around. You probably like Lily

872
00:38:55,160 --> 00:38:58,919
Speaker 3: like what my we came from around and now look,

873
00:38:58,920 --> 00:39:00,600
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying. So that's how I feel

874
00:39:00,600 --> 00:39:03,120
Speaker 3: with I seen Devin come in the gym first day

875
00:39:03,719 --> 00:39:05,960
Speaker 3: number one. You know what I'm saying, He walked out

876
00:39:06,000 --> 00:39:08,279
Speaker 3: with me home my belt and now he's the undisputed

877
00:39:08,880 --> 00:39:11,840
Speaker 3: multiple time doing this you know what I'm saying, breaking records,

878
00:39:12,040 --> 00:39:16,160
Speaker 3: youngest crazy champion. His name is mentioned in every boxing

879
00:39:16,280 --> 00:39:19,160
Speaker 3: conversation that people could talk about, you know what I'm saying.

880
00:39:19,280 --> 00:39:21,320
Speaker 3: So when you're a part of something like that, you

881
00:39:21,440 --> 00:39:24,399
Speaker 3: gotta you you gotta feel proud, like what what right there?

882
00:39:24,520 --> 00:39:24,920
Speaker 3: They won?

883
00:39:25,239 --> 00:39:25,680
Speaker 1: And Bill?

884
00:39:26,000 --> 00:39:28,360
Speaker 3: One thing I love about Bill and I tell everybody

885
00:39:29,719 --> 00:39:32,680
Speaker 3: to me, he was a He's a very brilliant guy.

886
00:39:33,120 --> 00:39:36,000
Speaker 3: Why he don't come from boxing. He come from the streets.

887
00:39:36,040 --> 00:39:37,600
Speaker 2: But he said, you know what, I hear about them

888
00:39:37,640 --> 00:39:41,560
Speaker 2: all the time, anybody from the West. They mentioned his

889
00:39:41,680 --> 00:39:42,560
Speaker 2: pop's a real one.

890
00:39:42,760 --> 00:39:43,480
Speaker 1: That's a real one.

891
00:39:44,280 --> 00:39:46,440
Speaker 3: I'm telling you straight, like he come from the streets.

892
00:39:46,760 --> 00:39:48,480
Speaker 3: So he said, you know what, Devin want to box

893
00:39:48,920 --> 00:39:51,360
Speaker 3: DEVI want a box. We met Yo, Dev want to

894
00:39:51,400 --> 00:39:54,239
Speaker 3: box Yo. Bring him to the gym. Her bunk he

895
00:39:54,280 --> 00:39:55,840
Speaker 3: bunk deaf At the gym we started working out a

896
00:39:55,880 --> 00:39:58,040
Speaker 3: little bit like that. He said, you know what, I

897
00:39:58,120 --> 00:40:00,319
Speaker 3: gotta put him to my boy. He opened the gym.

898
00:40:00,560 --> 00:40:01,600
Speaker 3: He opened the gym up.

899
00:40:01,680 --> 00:40:03,120
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. It was our gym. We

900
00:40:03,160 --> 00:40:03,799
Speaker 1: had our own gym.

901
00:40:04,239 --> 00:40:07,640
Speaker 3: Is this is in I'm talking about. This is like

902
00:40:08,040 --> 00:40:12,040
Speaker 3: maybe oh seven seven o seven out here. You know

903
00:40:12,040 --> 00:40:14,200
Speaker 3: what I'm saying, We're doing the gym. The gym's over.

904
00:40:14,320 --> 00:40:17,600
Speaker 3: Devin is a kid, Devin is little. Gym's opening his rocking.

905
00:40:17,680 --> 00:40:19,399
Speaker 3: But one thing I loved about him, he poured into

906
00:40:19,480 --> 00:40:21,800
Speaker 3: his kid. He said, if I'm gonna sit back and

907
00:40:21,880 --> 00:40:23,720
Speaker 3: put my son in something, I'm gonna get the best,

908
00:40:24,080 --> 00:40:26,000
Speaker 3: the best of the best. He opened the gym, he

909
00:40:26,080 --> 00:40:28,400
Speaker 3: went and got my father was changing the first Then

910
00:40:28,400 --> 00:40:31,160
Speaker 3: he went to Big Floyd, Then he went to Freddie Roach.

911
00:40:31,360 --> 00:40:34,800
Speaker 3: Why he was going to the professional greatest people that

912
00:40:34,920 --> 00:40:37,160
Speaker 3: they said is the biggest in the game and teach

913
00:40:37,239 --> 00:40:39,560
Speaker 3: my son something. But the whole time what he was doing,

914
00:40:39,600 --> 00:40:42,279
Speaker 3: he was sitting there learning game the same time. So

915
00:40:42,440 --> 00:40:44,279
Speaker 3: why later on when I take this walk on my

916
00:40:44,360 --> 00:40:47,320
Speaker 3: son by myself, nobody could say that I'm not qualified

917
00:40:47,360 --> 00:40:50,359
Speaker 3: for the position. You know, every endeavor day that he's

918
00:40:50,400 --> 00:40:52,759
Speaker 3: ever learned, I sat in on. You know what I'm saying.

919
00:40:52,760 --> 00:40:55,200
Speaker 3: It was a devil student. Yeah, he was learning physical,

920
00:40:55,480 --> 00:40:57,600
Speaker 3: I was learning visual, you know what I'm saying. So

921
00:40:57,719 --> 00:40:59,560
Speaker 3: that right there, when you watch like I could say

922
00:40:59,880 --> 00:41:02,799
Speaker 3: I watched that, I've seen that, you know what I'm saying.

923
00:41:03,800 --> 00:41:06,440
Speaker 3: People say oh how you Bill Handy man, Bill, and

924
00:41:06,560 --> 00:41:08,800
Speaker 3: he is one of the smartest people in boxing.

925
00:41:09,520 --> 00:41:11,480
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. I remember he went through

926
00:41:11,520 --> 00:41:12,799
Speaker 1: some ship to get in Australia.

927
00:41:13,040 --> 00:41:16,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, and he fell hard and look he

928
00:41:16,280 --> 00:41:18,800
Speaker 3: made it beat me by bye last minute, thirty seconds.

929
00:41:19,120 --> 00:41:21,759
Speaker 3: But there we go every box still and we're out

930
00:41:21,800 --> 00:41:23,480
Speaker 3: of it. You know what I'm saying. So when you

931
00:41:23,600 --> 00:41:26,960
Speaker 3: got that kind of blueprint in form that. Man, Listen,

932
00:41:27,000 --> 00:41:28,960
Speaker 3: you're rolling, you know the most with you. You know

933
00:41:29,000 --> 00:41:32,360
Speaker 3: what I'm saying, Right man, I'm saying, do you feel

934
00:41:32,480 --> 00:41:37,680
Speaker 3: like when it comes down the to the boxing world,

935
00:41:37,719 --> 00:41:39,759
Speaker 3: do you feel like they give you enough credit to

936
00:41:39,800 --> 00:41:43,120
Speaker 3: the culture for what you contributed? I mean, as far

937
00:41:43,200 --> 00:41:46,239
Speaker 3: as what the boxing community gives me, you know what,

938
00:41:46,560 --> 00:41:49,400
Speaker 3: could be honest with you, that really doesn't worry me.

939
00:41:49,840 --> 00:41:51,920
Speaker 3: You know why when I come outside in these streets

940
00:41:52,239 --> 00:41:55,120
Speaker 3: and I talk to the people that's on the ground,

941
00:41:55,600 --> 00:41:58,640
Speaker 3: the real people, they tell me different.

942
00:41:58,880 --> 00:41:59,279
Speaker 1: That's right.

943
00:41:59,400 --> 00:42:01,560
Speaker 3: But that's what he me going. You know what I'm saying. Yeah,

944
00:42:01,600 --> 00:42:03,279
Speaker 3: I don't meet me like, oh yeah no, they said

945
00:42:03,360 --> 00:42:04,120
Speaker 3: what you did it?

946
00:42:04,400 --> 00:42:04,800
Speaker 1: You did it?

947
00:42:04,920 --> 00:42:07,920
Speaker 3: Congratulations. I just want to hug you like that right there?

948
00:42:07,960 --> 00:42:09,920
Speaker 3: Is special to me. You know what I'm saying, Because

949
00:42:10,239 --> 00:42:11,680
Speaker 3: when I was getting in that ring, doing what I

950
00:42:11,719 --> 00:42:13,800
Speaker 3: was doing, I didn't know all these people was watching

951
00:42:13,880 --> 00:42:16,680
Speaker 3: me having zabd you to fight night parties. You know

952
00:42:16,719 --> 00:42:18,480
Speaker 3: what I'm saying. Like, I meet people now and they'd

953
00:42:18,480 --> 00:42:22,000
Speaker 3: be like, Yo, my pops was the biggest zab Judah

954
00:42:22,120 --> 00:42:24,480
Speaker 3: fan ever. We would shut the house down. He would

955
00:42:24,560 --> 00:42:28,320
Speaker 3: kick anybody out, And I'm like, wow, off of me.

956
00:42:28,680 --> 00:42:30,320
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, Like, that's special to me.

957
00:42:30,440 --> 00:42:33,839
Speaker 3: So whenever I meet anybody, everybody ever met could tell you, yeah,

958
00:42:33,920 --> 00:42:36,120
Speaker 3: he's not He's ginging nobody here. He's gonna stop and

959
00:42:36,239 --> 00:42:38,000
Speaker 3: chop it up with you. You know what I'm saying.

960
00:42:38,160 --> 00:42:40,600
Speaker 2: What's your take on the fight? Seeing today like the

961
00:42:40,719 --> 00:42:45,800
Speaker 2: boxes today, do you feel like they like you, not

962
00:42:45,960 --> 00:42:48,320
Speaker 2: ducking smoke or they just trying to make it a business.

963
00:42:48,360 --> 00:42:50,279
Speaker 2: Because when I look at it, I feel like these

964
00:42:50,320 --> 00:42:52,680
Speaker 2: guys building a brand. They not even trying to really

965
00:42:52,719 --> 00:42:53,879
Speaker 2: fight any right.

966
00:42:54,560 --> 00:42:57,600
Speaker 3: I feel like to a certain extent, that's the blueprint

967
00:42:57,680 --> 00:43:00,279
Speaker 3: now to make it to the top. You gotta watch

968
00:43:00,680 --> 00:43:03,719
Speaker 3: that oh and get it for far. You could get

969
00:43:03,760 --> 00:43:06,320
Speaker 3: it up the ladder before the negotiation starts with the

970
00:43:06,360 --> 00:43:09,279
Speaker 3: other big dogs. So that's the whole blueprint, because you know,

971
00:43:09,400 --> 00:43:11,440
Speaker 3: going up the ladder, if you take a fight that's

972
00:43:11,480 --> 00:43:14,800
Speaker 3: too hard or like that may be challenging and just

973
00:43:14,920 --> 00:43:16,960
Speaker 3: cough a bit, you get that l Now they look

974
00:43:16,960 --> 00:43:17,560
Speaker 3: at you and different.

975
00:43:17,680 --> 00:43:18,520
Speaker 1: Now you gotta go over there.

976
00:43:19,040 --> 00:43:22,279
Speaker 3: You want you in that lane. Set you You know

977
00:43:22,280 --> 00:43:25,279
Speaker 3: what I'm saying, you at the kiddy table down, go

978
00:43:25,440 --> 00:43:27,960
Speaker 3: up there, and you want to open this again.

979
00:43:28,040 --> 00:43:31,040
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. You like, how did this happen?

980
00:43:31,120 --> 00:43:33,080
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, How did this happen?

981
00:43:33,200 --> 00:43:33,480
Speaker 1: Right here?

982
00:43:33,560 --> 00:43:34,120
Speaker 3: You know what I mean?

983
00:43:34,200 --> 00:43:38,560
Speaker 2: So so when it now you you know, this is

984
00:43:38,680 --> 00:43:41,880
Speaker 2: life outside the ropes. Now, what does your legacy? I

985
00:43:41,920 --> 00:43:43,880
Speaker 2: asked you, what does you think like? You know, do

986
00:43:43,960 --> 00:43:47,640
Speaker 2: the culture? What does your legacy mean to you? Life

987
00:43:47,719 --> 00:43:48,360
Speaker 2: after box?

988
00:43:49,480 --> 00:43:52,440
Speaker 1: You know when I sit back and watch.

989
00:43:53,960 --> 00:43:59,160
Speaker 3: Alcolades in the videos and all of the fights, I

990
00:43:59,200 --> 00:44:01,319
Speaker 3: sit back and watch because yeah, it's been nice when

991
00:44:01,560 --> 00:44:03,759
Speaker 3: you know, my wife will tell you, I sit by

992
00:44:03,800 --> 00:44:05,920
Speaker 3: myself and I sit and watch my fights and old

993
00:44:05,960 --> 00:44:08,280
Speaker 3: stuff and just here and listen to commentators and stuff

994
00:44:08,280 --> 00:44:08,440
Speaker 3: like that.

995
00:44:09,280 --> 00:44:11,080
Speaker 1: And yeah, I look back and I'm like Wow.

996
00:44:11,560 --> 00:44:13,880
Speaker 3: Sometimes I be amazed, like wow, I really was doing that,

997
00:44:14,000 --> 00:44:16,200
Speaker 3: Like I really was like that, Like that's that's crazy,

998
00:44:16,560 --> 00:44:18,279
Speaker 3: you know what I mean? So you know, I see

999
00:44:18,320 --> 00:44:20,680
Speaker 3: what I see, what I see what everybody see, But

1000
00:44:21,360 --> 00:44:25,120
Speaker 3: I don't know it just don't it don't resonate, like

1001
00:44:25,840 --> 00:44:29,239
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying. Like right, so I sa thing, bro,

1002
00:44:29,440 --> 00:44:32,120
Speaker 3: and I think that I'm still working hard and obtaining

1003
00:44:32,239 --> 00:44:36,040
Speaker 3: other goals and pushing forward with other things that I

1004
00:44:36,080 --> 00:44:37,680
Speaker 3: feel like if you sit in that place and you

1005
00:44:37,880 --> 00:44:40,320
Speaker 3: just get comfortable, that's gonna go to your brain. So

1006
00:44:40,760 --> 00:44:43,080
Speaker 3: I can't even look at what I did with boxing.

1007
00:44:43,600 --> 00:44:44,440
Speaker 3: I can't look at them.

1008
00:44:44,840 --> 00:44:45,360
Speaker 1: That's over with.

1009
00:44:46,480 --> 00:44:48,440
Speaker 3: I'm saying, that's over with. What I what I You know,

1010
00:44:48,480 --> 00:44:50,719
Speaker 3: people asking a chant when you're gonna fight. I did

1011
00:44:50,840 --> 00:44:53,319
Speaker 3: fifty seven. It's on YouTube. Check it out.

1012
00:44:55,800 --> 00:44:58,080
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, netflixing chill. You know what

1013
00:44:58,160 --> 00:45:00,359
Speaker 1: I'm saying. You know what I mean. I got seven

1014
00:45:00,400 --> 00:45:00,640
Speaker 1: of them.

1015
00:45:01,480 --> 00:45:02,840
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. That's not it for me

1016
00:45:02,920 --> 00:45:04,400
Speaker 3: unless I would choose to come out and do one

1017
00:45:04,440 --> 00:45:05,719
Speaker 3: of the exhibitions or something like that.

1018
00:45:06,160 --> 00:45:08,839
Speaker 1: But other than that, I got fifty seven of them.

1019
00:45:08,960 --> 00:45:09,680
Speaker 1: That's right, that's it.

1020
00:45:10,080 --> 00:45:13,839
Speaker 2: Yeah, they exhibitions, they throwing that bag around. I mean listen, man,

1021
00:45:14,200 --> 00:45:17,440
Speaker 2: come on, you know what it is. Listen, what's my

1022
00:45:17,600 --> 00:45:18,440
Speaker 2: man name from.

1023
00:45:18,360 --> 00:45:22,719
Speaker 1: Dubai Hey, the whole Hogan. Yeah, throw that bag out.

1024
00:45:23,560 --> 00:45:28,640
Speaker 1: We got some exhibition. That's a fact, yo yo.

1025
00:45:28,880 --> 00:45:32,120
Speaker 3: So what you know is the Brooklyn boy we always

1026
00:45:32,120 --> 00:45:32,600
Speaker 3: get last.

1027
00:45:32,680 --> 00:45:33,040
Speaker 2: You know that.

1028
00:45:33,200 --> 00:45:35,560
Speaker 3: You know that they gonna they think we're gonna suck

1029
00:45:35,600 --> 00:45:39,600
Speaker 3: it up. Yeah up, they think we're gonna play. We

1030
00:45:39,640 --> 00:45:41,480
Speaker 3: ain't gonna suck the play out. They're gonna know we're

1031
00:45:41,480 --> 00:45:43,920
Speaker 3: gonna play. We're gonna maximize the position.

1032
00:45:44,160 --> 00:45:47,359
Speaker 1: That's a fact. No, sleep, that's right.

1033
00:45:47,480 --> 00:45:52,319
Speaker 2: Never when people say zab Judah, what do you want

1034
00:45:52,400 --> 00:45:55,000
Speaker 2: your name to mean? Like say that because to me,

1035
00:45:55,920 --> 00:45:58,560
Speaker 2: when I hear the name zab Judah, to me, now

1036
00:45:58,600 --> 00:46:01,800
Speaker 2: this is as a fan as bro, just knowing you

1037
00:46:02,120 --> 00:46:10,120
Speaker 2: watching your career legend legend Bro, like it's only when

1038
00:46:10,239 --> 00:46:13,960
Speaker 2: when you think of Brooklyn and you think of fighting,

1039
00:46:14,560 --> 00:46:17,040
Speaker 2: it's Mike Tyson and his zab Judah nigga and that's it.

1040
00:46:18,000 --> 00:46:21,120
Speaker 1: So what does that mean to you? Exactly what you.

1041
00:46:21,280 --> 00:46:25,440
Speaker 3: Just said, that's right because coming from you, that's exactly

1042
00:46:25,520 --> 00:46:27,200
Speaker 3: what it means I want the people to.

1043
00:46:27,239 --> 00:46:28,319
Speaker 1: Say what they feel.

1044
00:46:29,000 --> 00:46:29,120
Speaker 2: Yo.

1045
00:46:29,200 --> 00:46:29,840
Speaker 1: Bro, Listen.

1046
00:46:29,960 --> 00:46:32,440
Speaker 2: When I told everybody listen, I told you I was

1047
00:46:32,520 --> 00:46:34,719
Speaker 2: just on the phone with Hove when you just called me, like,

1048
00:46:35,080 --> 00:46:38,000
Speaker 2: what's the address. I was telling him about somebody from

1049
00:46:38,040 --> 00:46:39,719
Speaker 2: the hood that I didn't know was locked up, and

1050
00:46:39,800 --> 00:46:42,239
Speaker 2: I'm like, who the fuck do this nigga was locked up?

1051
00:46:42,520 --> 00:46:43,279
Speaker 3: He like I did.

1052
00:46:43,719 --> 00:46:45,759
Speaker 2: So I'm like, yo, he like where you at. I'm like,

1053
00:46:45,800 --> 00:46:47,880
Speaker 2: I'm in Vegas. I'm about to go shoot this episode

1054
00:46:47,920 --> 00:46:50,319
Speaker 2: with Zab. He like, no fucking way. I'm like, yeah,

1055
00:46:50,480 --> 00:46:52,719
Speaker 2: like man tells Zab, I said, what's up. That's when

1056
00:46:52,920 --> 00:46:55,160
Speaker 2: when I caught you back, I'm like, Yo, it's certain

1057
00:46:55,239 --> 00:46:56,520
Speaker 2: niggas you could tell hold on.

1058
00:46:57,719 --> 00:47:05,320
Speaker 3: Certain niggas you can't tell hold on. I heard no disrespect,

1059
00:47:05,640 --> 00:47:08,880
Speaker 3: but I can't tell me hold on. I click back over.

1060
00:47:08,920 --> 00:47:13,480
Speaker 1: It's gonna be right. I already know man. Appreciate ll

1061
00:47:13,560 --> 00:47:14,680
Speaker 1: No man, bro.

1062
00:47:14,800 --> 00:47:18,320
Speaker 2: He definitely said my love telling myself was man. He

1063
00:47:18,520 --> 00:47:21,680
Speaker 2: was excited. So even Nori when I told everybody like,

1064
00:47:21,800 --> 00:47:23,800
Speaker 2: no way, man, how you get in contact was that?

1065
00:47:24,320 --> 00:47:26,160
Speaker 2: I had to tell him, Man, that's my bro, what

1066
00:47:26,320 --> 00:47:29,000
Speaker 2: you mean. I never lost contact with that you know

1067
00:47:29,000 --> 00:47:29,399
Speaker 2: what I'm saying.

1068
00:47:29,719 --> 00:47:32,640
Speaker 3: You know this is crazy. I'm probably gonna go crazy,

1069
00:47:32,719 --> 00:47:34,239
Speaker 3: but you know me know he's the fight as a kid.

1070
00:47:34,800 --> 00:47:38,680
Speaker 1: You fucking lie. So it was like Nory for every listen, No.

1071
00:47:39,280 --> 00:47:42,719
Speaker 3: Listen, it was Noriega and left Frack City versus the

1072
00:47:42,800 --> 00:47:43,440
Speaker 3: Judi brothers.

1073
00:47:43,520 --> 00:47:44,320
Speaker 1: I'm leaving at that.

1074
00:47:45,120 --> 00:47:48,799
Speaker 2: Leave it at that, shill nor ain't hurt up nor

1075
00:47:49,840 --> 00:47:54,480
Speaker 2: shout shout out to the sun shouting my brother Yo.

1076
00:47:54,800 --> 00:47:55,680
Speaker 1: So what's next for you?

1077
00:47:55,800 --> 00:47:55,960
Speaker 2: Man?

1078
00:47:56,280 --> 00:47:59,080
Speaker 1: He's a Judah too. Word rest of peace? Bro.

1079
00:47:59,320 --> 00:48:02,080
Speaker 2: Definitely, what's next for my Dude's a I know you

1080
00:48:02,520 --> 00:48:05,439
Speaker 2: wait wait, I'll let you tell what's next.

1081
00:48:05,520 --> 00:48:08,120
Speaker 3: But you told me a part of what's next. We're

1082
00:48:08,120 --> 00:48:10,800
Speaker 3: out here in Vegas just so happens.

1083
00:48:11,120 --> 00:48:14,560
Speaker 1: It's the A v. No War, you know, wars whoa.

1084
00:48:15,600 --> 00:48:17,560
Speaker 1: My man Zach said, yeah, I'm out here for that.

1085
00:48:19,000 --> 00:48:22,520
Speaker 1: What you're doing? He said, I got that line, So

1086
00:48:22,800 --> 00:48:23,520
Speaker 1: I let you tell.

1087
00:48:23,840 --> 00:48:25,920
Speaker 3: So. Yeah, it's a company that my wife, you know,

1088
00:48:26,040 --> 00:48:29,400
Speaker 3: she actually she put it together. You know, Undisputed Toys.

1089
00:48:30,520 --> 00:48:33,400
Speaker 3: We have a toy line, toy lines, so we have

1090
00:48:33,520 --> 00:48:41,040
Speaker 3: different you know, uh uh all stuff. You know, we

1091
00:48:41,120 --> 00:48:44,839
Speaker 3: have a special rabbit. It's very discreet, very discreet. Uh,

1092
00:48:45,000 --> 00:48:47,360
Speaker 3: it's a rabbit. Three different functions on it.

1093
00:48:48,600 --> 00:48:51,640
Speaker 1: That that's that's not a business. Yeah, you know, I'm

1094
00:48:51,719 --> 00:48:54,640
Speaker 1: just saying, like you know, the bunny is does the magic.

1095
00:48:54,800 --> 00:48:57,160
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. We only got one feature.

1096
00:48:57,400 --> 00:49:00,760
Speaker 1: You make it up with you know a different functions?

1097
00:49:03,520 --> 00:49:07,400
Speaker 3: Man, Yeah, yeah, damn yeah, it's kind of crazy.

1098
00:49:07,840 --> 00:49:10,239
Speaker 1: Then you got the cigar ball popping out there? What's

1099
00:49:10,360 --> 00:49:11,080
Speaker 1: up talking about that?

1100
00:49:11,320 --> 00:49:11,480
Speaker 3: Man?

1101
00:49:11,560 --> 00:49:11,920
Speaker 1: Sticks?

1102
00:49:11,960 --> 00:49:15,239
Speaker 3: We and woolen Hill's uh sticks a cigar ball.

1103
00:49:15,400 --> 00:49:17,520
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. Were on ventaur you know,

1104
00:49:17,640 --> 00:49:18,719
Speaker 1: look us up, pop in.

1105
00:49:18,920 --> 00:49:20,800
Speaker 3: You know it's a private cigar ball, So you know,

1106
00:49:20,920 --> 00:49:23,440
Speaker 3: call us up and come in and uh, let's make

1107
00:49:23,480 --> 00:49:23,799
Speaker 3: it big.

1108
00:49:24,040 --> 00:49:24,680
Speaker 1: Let's go up.

1109
00:49:24,760 --> 00:49:24,920
Speaker 2: Man.

1110
00:49:25,040 --> 00:49:27,120
Speaker 1: Anything else you want to let the people, Yeah.

1111
00:49:27,640 --> 00:49:28,400
Speaker 3: Just letting people know.

1112
00:49:28,560 --> 00:49:32,000
Speaker 1: Man. I love everybody. Man, that's right. Thank you for

1113
00:49:32,120 --> 00:49:34,279
Speaker 1: loving me, and you know what I'm saying. And even

1114
00:49:34,320 --> 00:49:35,759
Speaker 1: if I don't know you, I love you. You know

1115
00:49:35,800 --> 00:49:36,160
Speaker 1: what I'm saying.

1116
00:49:36,239 --> 00:49:37,840
Speaker 3: Even if you didn't like me, I love you.

1117
00:49:38,000 --> 00:49:39,680
Speaker 1: That's right. That's a fact.

1118
00:49:39,719 --> 00:49:42,120
Speaker 2: Bro. I appreciate you for pulling up. You know, you

1119
00:49:42,320 --> 00:49:44,560
Speaker 2: my brother, and you know I love you for life.

1120
00:49:44,640 --> 00:49:47,760
Speaker 2: My nigga for life. Bro, I'm always on da boys.

1121
00:49:47,840 --> 00:49:50,680
Speaker 2: And you know what it is, man, This is fuck Brooklyn.

1122
00:49:51,160 --> 00:49:54,000
Speaker 2: This is rock solid. This is the most solid nigga

1123
00:49:54,040 --> 00:49:56,920
Speaker 2: that's probably gonna touch this platform unless the big homie

1124
00:49:56,920 --> 00:49:57,279
Speaker 2: pull up.

1125
00:49:57,760 --> 00:49:59,000
Speaker 1: Stop playing with us that.

1126
00:49:59,360 --> 00:50:01,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, wait, I tell you too that you know that's

1127
00:50:01,200 --> 00:50:07,160
Speaker 3: jay Z right, you know I'm ZJ Beckles Right. I'm

1128
00:50:07,239 --> 00:50:07,800
Speaker 3: just saying that.

1129
00:50:08,800 --> 00:50:10,080
Speaker 1: You know what it is, y'all.

1130
00:50:10,480 --> 00:50:14,680
Speaker 2: Rock solid Judah in the buildings, shout out the Judah Brothers,

1131
00:50:14,760 --> 00:50:17,440
Speaker 2: the family, Brooklyn, egbody holding it down.

1132
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Speaker 1: This do save my fear for life. Rock solid, stay solid. Yeah.

1133
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Speaker 2: the name Memphis Bleak.

1137
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Speaker 1: You see anybody fraud in Flagging