WEBVTT - TechStuff Takes a Gander at Propaganda

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to Tech Stuff, a production of I Heart Radios,

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<v Speaker 1>How Stuff Works. Hey there, and welcome to tech Stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm your host, Jonathan Strickland. I'm an executive producer with

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<v Speaker 1>I Heart Radio and How Stuff Works and a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of all things tech again kind of, this is another

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<v Speaker 1>one of those episodes we have to put in a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of qualifiers. So in late September twenty nineteen, University

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<v Speaker 1>of Oxford's Computational Propaganda Research Project released the two thousand

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen Global Inventory of Organized Social Media Manipulation, And apart

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<v Speaker 1>from misspelling the word organized, those wacky ox ford Ians

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<v Speaker 1>turned the Z into an S, so it's an easy mistake.

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<v Speaker 1>But otherwise it's a great report. And yeah, I'm making

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<v Speaker 1>a joke about the differences in spelling conventions between America

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<v Speaker 1>and the UK, because in all honesty, this report is

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<v Speaker 1>pretty scary and I need to get in my oofswell

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<v Speaker 1>I can now. I say the report is scary, but

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<v Speaker 1>it's also not exactly surprising. We've heard plenty of reports

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<v Speaker 1>all around the world over the last few years about

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<v Speaker 1>governments and political parties using social media as a way

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<v Speaker 1>to spread misinformation in an effort to manipulate people to

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<v Speaker 1>do whatever it is the party in question wants them

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<v Speaker 1>to do, or in some cases, to not do something,

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<v Speaker 1>depending on the circumstances. But the scale of the issue

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<v Speaker 1>is a truly global one and it's only becoming a

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<v Speaker 1>bigger problem as time goes on. Now, it's also important

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<v Speaker 1>to note how the researchers generated this report. This was

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<v Speaker 1>not some sort of deep undercover mission in which dozens

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<v Speaker 1>of security experts infiltrated various countries to monitor social media activity. Instead,

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<v Speaker 1>the researchers relied heavily on published accounts of governments and

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<v Speaker 1>political parties manipulating social media for the purposes of propit Ganda,

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<v Speaker 1>typically from a lot of news outlets, and they created

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<v Speaker 1>a process in which they would score news sources on

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<v Speaker 1>a scale of one to three. One being a pretty

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<v Speaker 1>reliable and reputable source of information, something that is has

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<v Speaker 1>got a nice long standing reputation for for being a

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<v Speaker 1>foundational source for news, and then three is on the

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<v Speaker 1>opposite end of that right, Three would be a partisan,

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<v Speaker 1>biased or unreliable source. Articles that ranked a three were

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<v Speaker 1>removed from the the whole set of articles before the

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<v Speaker 1>next step in the process began, and that next step

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<v Speaker 1>was to review all of those articles and then go

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<v Speaker 1>into a mode called secondary literature review, in which researchers

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<v Speaker 1>would focus on specific countries and do a deeper dive

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<v Speaker 1>into the news stories about manipulation and social media sites.

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<v Speaker 1>This included further research that collected stuff like research papers,

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<v Speaker 1>govern ment reports, and other publicly available information. Then the

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<v Speaker 1>researchers prepared country case studies for most of the countries

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<v Speaker 1>they covered in their initial search. Their case studies laid

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<v Speaker 1>out specific instances and strategies that were found in the

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<v Speaker 1>respective countries. The researchers then called upon experts to review

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<v Speaker 1>the case studies, and the experts were there to evaluate

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<v Speaker 1>the reliability of the data and also whether or not

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<v Speaker 1>the case studies accurately reflected the information that was available.

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<v Speaker 1>So not just are these facts accurate, but is the

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<v Speaker 1>way that that the report presents the facts is that

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<v Speaker 1>in itself accurate? Because you could have some accurate stats

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<v Speaker 1>and then still report on it in a way that

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<v Speaker 1>is not, you know, entirely representational of the truth. So

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<v Speaker 1>the experts were sort of the peer review process for

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<v Speaker 1>this report, and you could argue that the report is

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<v Speaker 1>itself sort of a meta study that would be a

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<v Speaker 1>study that pulls information from many other established sources as

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<v Speaker 1>opposed to an original study that does new and original research.

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<v Speaker 1>This one was dependent upon stuff that had already been

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<v Speaker 1>read written about these various countries. One thing I think

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<v Speaker 1>the report does particularly well is that the researchers acknowledged

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<v Speaker 1>what makes this manipulation possible in the first place. The

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<v Speaker 1>amount of information we have access to at any given

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<v Speaker 1>time is truly monumental. Let's think back a few decades

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<v Speaker 1>imagine what it would be like before the eras of

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<v Speaker 1>radio and television. Back when you would get your news

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<v Speaker 1>from print. You would get newspapers or journals or magazines

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<v Speaker 1>or other periodicals. That was pretty much the only way

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<v Speaker 1>you were going to get any news beyond what's just

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<v Speaker 1>going on in your immediate neighborhood. Radio and TV brought

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<v Speaker 1>with them the ability to spread news faster and in

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<v Speaker 1>a wider distribution. Then came cable and the invention of

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<v Speaker 1>twenty four hour cable news, and now we had a

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<v Speaker 1>whole new p problem. Suddenly we had to find a

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<v Speaker 1>way to fill up twenty four hours of news time

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<v Speaker 1>every single day. When before newspapers, radio programs, television programs,

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<v Speaker 1>they would curate the most important news stories because you know,

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<v Speaker 1>you had a limited amount of space and or time.

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<v Speaker 1>But with twenty four hours, suddenly time was not as

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<v Speaker 1>big of a problem. In fact, it was the opposite problem.

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<v Speaker 1>How do you fill it all up? Then we get

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<v Speaker 1>to the Internet, which, like the twenty four hour cable

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<v Speaker 1>news channels, is also always on. And much of the

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<v Speaker 1>business that is on the Internet relies on doing a

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<v Speaker 1>few things, and they're all related. And this is not

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<v Speaker 1>going to come as news to any of you, but

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<v Speaker 1>I want to lay it out. So business on the internet,

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<v Speaker 1>if that's in fact where you are, are really dependent

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<v Speaker 1>upon generating revenue. As the Internet itself, you want to

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<v Speaker 1>attract as many sets of eyeballs as possible, so get

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<v Speaker 1>as many people to visit your website as you possibly can.

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<v Speaker 1>You want to keep those eyeballs on the company's web

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<v Speaker 1>pages as much as possible, so you don't want people

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<v Speaker 1>bouncing off and leaving. And as a consequence, you also

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<v Speaker 1>want to serve up as many ads to those eyeballs

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<v Speaker 1>as possible, because that's generally how most web based businesses

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<v Speaker 1>are generating their revenue. Uh. You know, obviously you've got

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<v Speaker 1>other businesses like retail that use the web as a

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<v Speaker 1>portal to shop the inventory of the retail store. But

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<v Speaker 1>for anything that's specifically dependent upon the web itself for revenue,

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<v Speaker 1>that's generally how this works unless you're doing a subscription model,

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<v Speaker 1>and all of these things I just mentioned contributes to

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<v Speaker 1>add revenue. So yeah, I know, again I'm starting with

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<v Speaker 1>the obvious and that if you didn't know this already,

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<v Speaker 1>you probably had noticed it at the very least. But

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<v Speaker 1>this is why you find so many web pages that

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<v Speaker 1>take kind of irritating approaches, like they'll create a gallery

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<v Speaker 1>or slide show approach which forces you to click on

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<v Speaker 1>the next button to generate another page view. So rather

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<v Speaker 1>than just lay it all out in one page where

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<v Speaker 1>you can just scroll through and read everything, you're clicking

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<v Speaker 1>over and over again. Well, those clicks count as page views,

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<v Speaker 1>which help the the company that makes the web page

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<v Speaker 1>market it to advertisers, or the websites that are designed

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<v Speaker 1>for mobile that just have super long articles that scroll

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<v Speaker 1>and scroll and scroll. You might get a picture a

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<v Speaker 1>line of text, and then an AD, and then you'll

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<v Speaker 1>get another picture in a line of text and another AD,

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<v Speaker 1>and then you finally get around to finding the point

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<v Speaker 1>where the article actually tells you whatever the headline was

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<v Speaker 1>claiming at the top. And that's not even really touching

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<v Speaker 1>on the whole concept of click bait, in which a

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<v Speaker 1>title and thumbnail image are carefully curated to get as

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<v Speaker 1>many clicks as possible, sometimes with no regard as to

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<v Speaker 1>whether or not the final web page actually reflects whatever

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<v Speaker 1>the original promise was of the title and the thumbnail.

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<v Speaker 1>And one of the consequences of all this data around us,

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<v Speaker 1>coupled with the various methods companies are using to get

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<v Speaker 1>our attention, means we don't tend to spend a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of time actually, you know, attending to anything. We can't. Instead,

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<v Speaker 1>our attention drifts over data point after data point. Meanwhile,

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<v Speaker 1>we've got a limitation on how much we trust information sources,

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<v Speaker 1>so skillful manipulators take all of this into account when

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<v Speaker 1>designing an approach to manipulate the public. The executive summary

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<v Speaker 1>of the report lays out the scale of the problem

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<v Speaker 1>right away, and according to the researchers, their work uncovered

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<v Speaker 1>instances of governments or political parties using social media manipulation

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<v Speaker 1>in twenty eight countries. In a year later, the number

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<v Speaker 1>of countries had grown to forty eight, and this year

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<v Speaker 1>twenty nineteen, the number of countries in which at least

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<v Speaker 1>one political party, if not the government itself, is using

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<v Speaker 1>social media for manipulation purposes is at seventy countries. The

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<v Speaker 1>researchers also point out this doesn't necessarily mean the number

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<v Speaker 1>of countries with governmental agencies using misinformation online is doubling

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<v Speaker 1>year over year. Part of the increase maybe do not

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<v Speaker 1>to more countries doing this, but rather are growing awareness

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<v Speaker 1>and ability to detect social manipulation. So it's not just

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<v Speaker 1>that more people are using these techniques though that seems

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<v Speaker 1>like it's a pretty safe bet, but also that we're

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<v Speaker 1>getting better at detecting them, so in places where it

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<v Speaker 1>may once have been overlooked, we now know about it.

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<v Speaker 1>So and again, it's just that our our tool set

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<v Speaker 1>has gotten better, so that's also contributing to this growing number.

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<v Speaker 1>And listing all the countries of those seventy would be

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<v Speaker 1>pretty tedious, but pretty much everyone you would expect to

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<v Speaker 1>be there is there. That includes the United States and

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<v Speaker 1>the United Kingdom. It also includes Russia and China. Other

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<v Speaker 1>countries on the list include India, Greece, the Check Republic, Nigeria,

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<v Speaker 1>North Korea, Pakistan, Brazil, Cambodia, Saudi Arabia, South Africa, Spain,

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<v Speaker 1>and many many more. So the researchers were casting a

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<v Speaker 1>broad net around the globe. In this study, much of

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<v Speaker 1>that focus has been on how governments use social platforms

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<v Speaker 1>to manipulate things within their own borders, so, in other words,

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<v Speaker 1>domestic concerns. But the researchers also found some reports about

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<v Speaker 1>foreign influence operations or attempts to manipulate people who are

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<v Speaker 1>living in other countries entirely. Now, this focus was more

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<v Speaker 1>narrow than the overall domestic focus because it's a challenge

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<v Speaker 1>to get a handle on how frequently this foreign influence

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<v Speaker 1>operation stuff is happening because platforms like Twitter and Facebook

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<v Speaker 1>have either limited the investigations into such things or the

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<v Speaker 1>reporting of any findings they've had has been pretty limited.

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<v Speaker 1>For example, those platforms have at least in their reporting,

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<v Speaker 1>limited all their actions against campaigns that originated in just

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<v Speaker 1>seven countries, those seven being China, India, Iran, Pakistan, Russia,

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<v Speaker 1>Saudi Arabia, and Venezuela. And to be clear, we're talking

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<v Speaker 1>about just the stuff the researchers were able to find.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's safe to say there are probably instances

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<v Speaker 1>of this that have yet to be uncovered, and some

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<v Speaker 1>countries they didn't have time to look into thoroughly. There

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<v Speaker 1>are on countries in the world, or three if you

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<v Speaker 1>only go with countries recognized by the United Nations. So

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<v Speaker 1>this is a really big deal. Seventy out of a hundred,

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<v Speaker 1>that's a significant Now, in this episode, I'm going to

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<v Speaker 1>go through the report with you guys to talk about

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<v Speaker 1>what they found and what it all means, and maybe

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<v Speaker 1>think about what we might do to protect ourselves and

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<v Speaker 1>those around us from being manipulated bad news. There's not

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<v Speaker 1>a whole lot we can do on an individual basis,

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<v Speaker 1>but we'll get there now. Part of what makes this

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<v Speaker 1>all challenging is that the Internet isn't exactly the same

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<v Speaker 1>all across the world, as you guys know. I live

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<v Speaker 1>in the United States, and despite a few attempts to

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<v Speaker 1>shut down access to servers that were hosting pirated media,

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<v Speaker 1>because corporations have enormous sway in the United States, internet

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<v Speaker 1>access in the States is largely unfettered, so essentially, if

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<v Speaker 1>it's out there, you can access it in the United States.

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<v Speaker 1>This is an over generalization but you get the idea.

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<v Speaker 1>There are other countries that restrict, to one degree or

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<v Speaker 1>another that sort of access. In China, for example, there

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<v Speaker 1>is the famous Great Firewall of China. The term describes

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<v Speaker 1>not just the technology used, but the political policies. In China,

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<v Speaker 1>the restrict citizens access to the Internet. State approved sites

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<v Speaker 1>and services are fine, they can access those. The Chinese

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<v Speaker 1>government subjects other stuff to heavy censorship or just blocks

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<v Speaker 1>it outright. Controlling information is one way to maintain control

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<v Speaker 1>over a population, and China is one of the most

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<v Speaker 1>obvious examples of that happening today. Another one would be

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<v Speaker 1>North Korea. One of the big developments in twenty nineteen

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<v Speaker 1>saw China get more involved in foreign influence operations. Previously,

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<v Speaker 1>nearly all of China's propaganda efforts were confined to China

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<v Speaker 1>itself and its strict control over Internet access to its citizens.

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<v Speaker 1>But in two thousand nineteen, with the rise of public

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<v Speaker 1>demonstrations and protests in Hong Kong, the country began to

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<v Speaker 1>initiate misinformation campaigns on social media to attempt to undermine

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<v Speaker 1>public support for Hong Kong, casting the protesters as lawless

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<v Speaker 1>and violent. The researchers state that there's no reason to

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<v Speaker 1>assume China will stop using social media in an effort

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<v Speaker 1>to shape the public understanding of things that are of

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<v Speaker 1>importance to the country, So we'll probably see that country

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<v Speaker 1>continue it's foreign influence operations. Now, a lot of countries

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<v Speaker 1>fall between these extremes I've just laid out, and you

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<v Speaker 1>could also argue that neither the US nor China are

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<v Speaker 1>truly on the very opposite ends of the spectrum, but

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<v Speaker 1>that's the way they're often portrayed. Now, for the purposes

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<v Speaker 1>of the report, the researchers decided to focus only on

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<v Speaker 1>cases in which there was a clear mandate from a

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<v Speaker 1>government or political party to initiate the manipulation. This is

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<v Speaker 1>important to distinguish because there may be many cases in

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<v Speaker 1>which hackers, activists, companies, subcultures, or other groups of people

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<v Speaker 1>could act on their own without the explicit permission or

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<v Speaker 1>mandate of a government or political party. In cases like those,

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<v Speaker 1>the ideologies and the goals of the group and the

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<v Speaker 1>government just happened to align, but there's no explicit direction

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<v Speaker 1>from the state to commit any acts. You may remember

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<v Speaker 1>that in the wake of the massive two thousand fourteen

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<v Speaker 1>cyber attack on Sony which involved the theft of a

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<v Speaker 1>ton of confidential information within the company. A hacker group

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<v Speaker 1>called the Guardians of Peace claimed responsibility, and while the

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<v Speaker 1>hacker group's goals were in line with those of North

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<v Speaker 1>Korea as a whole, the country of North Korea maintained

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<v Speaker 1>it had not directed any hackers to go after Sony.

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<v Speaker 1>If that were the case, which is still a matter

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<v Speaker 1>of dispute, then it would be an example of what

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<v Speaker 1>I was saying earlier. So the report would focus only

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<v Speaker 1>on stories that link back to official government or political agencies,

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<v Speaker 1>and not campaigns from apparent independent groups that just happened

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<v Speaker 1>to align with those governments. Okay, so those are the

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<v Speaker 1>basics when we come back. I'll talk more about specifics

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<v Speaker 1>in the report, but first let's take a quick break.

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<v Speaker 1>According to the report, authoritarian governments and political parties use

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<v Speaker 1>social manipulation to achieve one or more of three general outcomes,

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<v Speaker 1>and the first is to suppress fundamental human rights, which

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<v Speaker 1>I think we can all agree is pretty horrifying. The

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<v Speaker 1>second is to discredit political opponents, and the third is

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<v Speaker 1>to drown out any dissenting opinions. Now, those last two

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<v Speaker 1>points show that these manipulators are relying on a tool

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<v Speaker 1>set used by Internet trolls. In general, trolls will use

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<v Speaker 1>all sorts of manipulative tactics to dismiss anyone they target,

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<v Speaker 1>and to rely on strategies to start flame wars or

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<v Speaker 1>other distractions to keep the targeted party from being able

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<v Speaker 1>to make any sort of impact. So, in some ways,

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<v Speaker 1>the techniques being used in social manipulation are already incredibly

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<v Speaker 1>familiar to us. It's just that instead of popping up

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<v Speaker 1>on a message board centered around no Dancing with the stars,

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<v Speaker 1>it's a government or political party trying to establish control

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<v Speaker 1>over a population. However, it does get more complicated than

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<v Speaker 1>just rilling up folks on the internet. The report's introduction

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<v Speaker 1>starts off with the sentence and I quote around the world,

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<v Speaker 1>government actors are using social media to manufacture consensus, automate suppression,

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<v Speaker 1>and undermine trust in the liberal international order end quote.

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<v Speaker 1>Now some of that still falls in the troll wheelhouse.

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<v Speaker 1>Manufacturing consensus, for example, this is when a party attempts

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<v Speaker 1>to make it seem as though the majority of people

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<v Speaker 1>around you all believe a certain philosophy or a course

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<v Speaker 1>of action is the right one. It's the whole concept

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<v Speaker 1>of go with the crowd, right, or if you're being

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<v Speaker 1>particularly cynical, it's likening people to sheep or cattle. People

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<v Speaker 1>tend to go along with what others are doing because

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<v Speaker 1>to do otherwise, to go outside of that, is to

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<v Speaker 1>invite scrutiny or criticism, and a lot of us just

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<v Speaker 1>prefer to avoid that, so, rather than make waves, will

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<v Speaker 1>go with the flow. Trolls do this online through stuff

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<v Speaker 1>like sock puppet accounts. That's when a troll makes two

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<v Speaker 1>or more accounts for an online discussion, and the troll

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<v Speaker 1>will use their primary account to make whatever statement they want,

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<v Speaker 1>and then the sock puppets are used to help the

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<v Speaker 1>troll achieve that goal, typically by adding support in some way,

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<v Speaker 1>so the trolls controlling all three or four, however many

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<v Speaker 1>of these accounts there are, and using the sock puppet

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<v Speaker 1>accounts to add support and credence to whatever the troll

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<v Speaker 1>is saying. So to an outside viewer, it's as if

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<v Speaker 1>the troll has said something and that other people are

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<v Speaker 1>now chiming in to support that's something, But in reality,

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<v Speaker 1>it's just the troll, or sometimes a group of trolls,

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<v Speaker 1>manufacturing that consensus, when in fact no such consensus exists

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<v Speaker 1>within the group of at large well countries and political

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<v Speaker 1>parties are doing the same thing, but on a much

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<v Speaker 1>larger scale. Governments do this by employing either directly or

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<v Speaker 1>otherwise agents to do the dirty work, and the report

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<v Speaker 1>refers to these agents as cyber troops. And some of

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<v Speaker 1>those cyber troops are a little extra cyber. That is,

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<v Speaker 1>some of the agents working on behalf of achieving the

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<v Speaker 1>goals of these various governments and political parties are bots.

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<v Speaker 1>They are programs that generate automated responses with the goal

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<v Speaker 1>of either suppressing messages in opposition to the party's goals

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<v Speaker 1>or elevating an escalating language that supports those goals. The

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<v Speaker 1>researchers identify three types of fake accounts in the report,

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<v Speaker 1>human bot, and then cyborg. Now, out of the seventy

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<v Speaker 1>countries that the researchers looked at, fifty were found using

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<v Speaker 1>fake accounts run by bots in some way, mostly to

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<v Speaker 1>spread certain messages while drowning out dissent. Interestingly, human run

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<v Speaker 1>accounts were even more widespread, with sixty out of the

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<v Speaker 1>seventy countries employing them in some way to run fake accounts,

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<v Speaker 1>and typically the people who are running these fake accounts

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<v Speaker 1>would engage with others people who have real accounts, like

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<v Speaker 1>the real users of these sites, by leaving comments on

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<v Speaker 1>posts or sending private messages, and otherwise attempting to start

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<v Speaker 1>up conversations aligned with the overall goals of the communication strategy.

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<v Speaker 1>The report also looked into instances of hacked accounts, in

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<v Speaker 1>which a person's online account would become compromised and then

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<v Speaker 1>pulled out of their control. Then a bot or a

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<v Speaker 1>human agent or the hybrid cyborg could post as that person.

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<v Speaker 1>This strategy accomplishes two things at once. It can silence

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<v Speaker 1>someone who otherwise might speak the scent against a government

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<v Speaker 1>or political party, and it can appear to lend credibility

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<v Speaker 1>to that government or political party by having a quote

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<v Speaker 1>unquote real person add to the conversation in a way

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<v Speaker 1>that further is the political goals. Complicating matters is that

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<v Speaker 1>in some countries governments encourage citizens to engage in spreading

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<v Speaker 1>propaganda and silencing dissenting voices on behalf of the government.

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<v Speaker 1>This would be a strategy where you say it's all

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<v Speaker 1>part of being a good patriotic citizen of that country.

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<v Speaker 1>In those cases, you're not talking about compromised or fake accounts. Instead,

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<v Speaker 1>you're talking about indoctrinated people using their accounts to support

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<v Speaker 1>their respective governments. And because we're starting to see some

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<v Speaker 1>platforms actually make moves against bots and other fake accounts,

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<v Speaker 1>this could become a more common practice in the future.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a lot harder for social platforms to remove quote

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<v Speaker 1>unquote real accounts that happen to spread propaganda without running

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<v Speaker 1>the risk of being labeled as partisan or advocating for censorship.

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<v Speaker 1>As for the messaging, the research team identified five general

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<v Speaker 1>types of messages and their intended effects. So number one

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<v Speaker 1>is the straightforward pro government propaganda. So these are messages

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<v Speaker 1>that praise whatever power is behind the manipulation, just you know,

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<v Speaker 1>yea America, or yea our glorious leader, or go socks.

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<v Speaker 1>Next our messages designed to discredit or defame political dissidents

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<v Speaker 1>and opponents, which might include a mixture of truth and

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<v Speaker 1>misinformation about the target. So this is where you have

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<v Speaker 1>identified some potential opponent to the powers that be, and

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<v Speaker 1>you use every tool in your tool chest to make

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<v Speaker 1>that person seem like the worst human being in the

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<v Speaker 1>world and no one should ever support him or her.

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<v Speaker 1>The third path is to use misinformation to distract from

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<v Speaker 1>important issues. In the United States, you'll hear a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of people complain about this sort of activity, in particular

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<v Speaker 1>in which let's say a government official or an agency

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<v Speaker 1>issues an outrageous or a controversial mess edge, and people

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<v Speaker 1>will say it's an effort to pull the focus off

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<v Speaker 1>of matters of more critical importance. I'm not saying this

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<v Speaker 1>actually happens all the time in the United States, instead

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<v Speaker 1>of saying people talk about it happening all the time

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<v Speaker 1>in the United States that when someone does make such

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<v Speaker 1>a statement, one of the frequent responses is, this is

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<v Speaker 1>just a pull focus away from X, you know, and

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<v Speaker 1>it's not really a genuine attempt to start a real

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<v Speaker 1>conversation about this other thing. And the fourth type of

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<v Speaker 1>message is one meant specifically to polarize and divide a population,

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<v Speaker 1>because if you divide the people, if you push them

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<v Speaker 1>further to extremes, it means that the people will not

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<v Speaker 1>unify on anything. They're they're less powerful divided than they

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<v Speaker 1>would be unified. So while that can lead to other

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<v Speaker 1>major social problems, as you push people to political extremes,

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<v Speaker 1>you've also really decreased the ability of them to organ

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<v Speaker 1>eyes on any meaningful level, and they can't really counteract

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<v Speaker 1>what the government is doing. The fifth type of message,

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<v Speaker 1>the final one, is a direct attack on dissidents themselves,

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<v Speaker 1>made in an effort to drown out their voices through

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<v Speaker 1>any means necessary. And the researchers also pointed out that

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<v Speaker 1>authoritarian regimes use social media propaganda in conjunction with other

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<v Speaker 1>methods of intimidation, including surveillance and threats of violence. Frequent

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<v Speaker 1>targets would be political opponents, journalists, and sometimes members of

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<v Speaker 1>the population or at least large segments of the population

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<v Speaker 1>as a whole. If such a government can intimidate those

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<v Speaker 1>who would otherwise speak out against it while simultaneously manipulating

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<v Speaker 1>the conversation on social media to be in support of

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<v Speaker 1>that same government, it's in a stronger position to maintain power.

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<v Speaker 1>The report also details the actual communication strategies governments and

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<v Speaker 1>political parties are using. So we've talked about the types

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<v Speaker 1>of messages that the organization's propagate, but how are they

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<v Speaker 1>propagating the messages? What are those strategies and the report

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<v Speaker 1>identifies five key ways. Number one is creating outright disinformation.

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<v Speaker 1>This can include fake news articles, fake videos, that kind

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<v Speaker 1>of thing, and as technology becomes more sophisticated, it becomes

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<v Speaker 1>increasingly challenging for the average person to determine if something

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<v Speaker 1>they encounter is genuine or has been faked. In some cases,

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<v Speaker 1>all it takes is a few edits to remove some context,

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<v Speaker 1>and suddenly a message can have a very different meaning

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<v Speaker 1>than the original intended one. So you can take video

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<v Speaker 1>of a politician making a speech, for example, you trem

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit off the beginning, a little bit off

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<v Speaker 1>the end, and you can make it sound like that

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<v Speaker 1>politician is saying the very opposite of what they actually intend.

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<v Speaker 1>In other cases, such as with deep fakes, there's the

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<v Speaker 1>opportunity to manufacture an entirely fake video of a person,

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<v Speaker 1>and this is only going to get harder as we

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<v Speaker 1>go on. This is also the most common communication strategy.

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<v Speaker 1>It's employed by fifty two of the countries that the

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<v Speaker 1>team researched, though in many cases we're talking about more

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<v Speaker 1>modest examples, such as fake news sites like a like

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<v Speaker 1>an article as opposed to a fake video. The second

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<v Speaker 1>strategy involves mass reporting accounts or content as being against

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<v Speaker 1>the terms of service of various platforms or organizations, so

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<v Speaker 1>an example of this would be a concentrated effort to

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<v Speaker 1>remove a person from Twitter by coordinating a big effort

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<v Speaker 1>to report that user uh to Twitter with a claim

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<v Speaker 1>that the user had violated Twitter's policies. So it's sort

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<v Speaker 1>of like a brute force attack. You overwhelm a provider

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<v Speaker 1>a platform with requests saying this person, this page, this

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<v Speaker 1>entity is breaking the rules and has to be banned,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's all on an effort to ban that person

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<v Speaker 1>or that thing. We've seen instances of this recent lye

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<v Speaker 1>with people going after figures they don't like and sending

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<v Speaker 1>complaints to that figures employer I'm thinking of specifically, like

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<v Speaker 1>James Gunn and Disney, and James Gunn was at least

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<v Speaker 1>temporarily removed from being able to direct movies like Guardians

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<v Speaker 1>of the Galaxy because of things he had done in

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<v Speaker 1>his past that were, you know, legit not cool. But

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<v Speaker 1>he had since apologized, acknowledged them, and pledged to do

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<v Speaker 1>better long long before anyone brought this up. But it

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<v Speaker 1>was enough to get him removed from the project for

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<v Speaker 1>a while, and so we have seen that this is

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<v Speaker 1>an effective tactic. The third strategy is to use data

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<v Speaker 1>to target specific groups of people with messaging that the

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<v Speaker 1>attackers tailored to that group of people, because it turns

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<v Speaker 1>out that if you tell a group of people what

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<v Speaker 1>they want to hear, that works great. So if you

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<v Speaker 1>identify what your target audience is and what they want

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<v Speaker 1>to hear, and then you convey your message in a

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<v Speaker 1>way that falls in line with that, you get more success.

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<v Speaker 1>Fourth is the awful practice of trolling and doxing. This

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<v Speaker 1>is all about silencing people by intimidation, like I mentioned earlier,

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<v Speaker 1>and can include revealing a person's real world address, phone number,

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<v Speaker 1>and other personal information information about people connected to that person.

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<v Speaker 1>It's it's kind of the mafia approach of putting pressure

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<v Speaker 1>on a person by intimidating and threatening them. And fifth

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<v Speaker 1>is actually the easiest strategy. It involves amplifying messages that

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<v Speaker 1>are already out there. So in this case, a government

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<v Speaker 1>or political party can just add resources to boost the

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<v Speaker 1>signal that are already in line with the organization's goals.

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<v Speaker 1>They don't have to create it themselves. They just can

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<v Speaker 1>create a whole bunch of let's say, fake accounts and

0:28:50.240 --> 0:28:52.600
<v Speaker 1>retweet a message that happens to fall in line with

0:28:52.600 --> 0:28:55.840
<v Speaker 1>what they believe. Now as you can imagine, the scope

0:28:55.880 --> 0:28:59.120
<v Speaker 1>of these efforts varies around the world. In some countries,

0:28:59.360 --> 0:29:03.960
<v Speaker 1>the researcher saw activities centered around specific events such as elections,

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<v Speaker 1>and then it would die down. In other countries, it

0:29:06.680 --> 0:29:09.040
<v Speaker 1>was more of an ongoing effort that the government would

0:29:09.040 --> 0:29:14.280
<v Speaker 1>perpetually support. Likewise, some countries spend a relatively modest amount

0:29:14.320 --> 0:29:18.640
<v Speaker 1>funding cyber troops, while others might dedicate many millions of

0:29:18.720 --> 0:29:22.360
<v Speaker 1>dollars to a single campaign. One of the larger efforts

0:29:22.360 --> 0:29:26.040
<v Speaker 1>cited by researchers was the case of Cambridge Analytica, which

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<v Speaker 1>I covered in a past episode of Tech Stuff. So

0:29:28.400 --> 0:29:30.479
<v Speaker 1>I recommend you go and hunt that one down and

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<v Speaker 1>listen to that to hear about how that unfolded, because

0:29:33.680 --> 0:29:37.400
<v Speaker 1>that was an enormous mess. All right. When we come back,

0:29:37.600 --> 0:29:39.600
<v Speaker 1>I'll go into a little bit more about what was

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<v Speaker 1>in the report and the ramifications we have to consider,

0:29:42.640 --> 0:29:53.240
<v Speaker 1>but first let's take another quick break. The researchers created

0:29:53.360 --> 0:29:57.280
<v Speaker 1>a four point scale to describe the size and capability

0:29:57.440 --> 0:30:01.320
<v Speaker 1>of cybertroop forces around the world. On the low end

0:30:01.320 --> 0:30:05.440
<v Speaker 1>of the scale is the designation minimal cyber troop teams,

0:30:05.920 --> 0:30:09.040
<v Speaker 1>and these are efforts that haven't been around for very long,

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<v Speaker 1>or they only manifest temporarily around those political events I

0:30:13.720 --> 0:30:18.080
<v Speaker 1>mentioned earlier, like elections. They tend to be limited in

0:30:18.160 --> 0:30:20.880
<v Speaker 1>what they can accomplish, and as a result, they typically

0:30:20.880 --> 0:30:24.640
<v Speaker 1>will focus on a single social media platform to maximize

0:30:24.640 --> 0:30:29.560
<v Speaker 1>their results, and they also focus exclusively on domestic misinformation

0:30:29.600 --> 0:30:33.840
<v Speaker 1>campaigns and not foreign influence operations. So countries that have

0:30:34.600 --> 0:30:39.200
<v Speaker 1>minimal cyber troop teams would be things like our country's

0:30:39.240 --> 0:30:44.800
<v Speaker 1>like Argentina, Australia, Croatia, Greece, South Korea, and a few

0:30:44.800 --> 0:30:48.560
<v Speaker 1>others on the opposite end of the scale, so that's

0:30:48.560 --> 0:30:50.760
<v Speaker 1>on the lowest end. On the highest end is high

0:30:50.880 --> 0:30:55.120
<v Speaker 1>cyber troop capacity. These countries dedicate a large budget to

0:30:55.240 --> 0:31:00.560
<v Speaker 1>funding online propaganda campaigns. They maintain a large permanent staff

0:31:00.680 --> 0:31:03.560
<v Speaker 1>of people in order to do that. They not only

0:31:03.640 --> 0:31:07.320
<v Speaker 1>execute comprehensive campaigns, they also research ways to do it

0:31:07.360 --> 0:31:11.080
<v Speaker 1>more effectively, so they're always working to improve the staff

0:31:11.120 --> 0:31:13.960
<v Speaker 1>works full time, not just in election years or around

0:31:13.960 --> 0:31:18.360
<v Speaker 1>other political events. They focus on both domestic and foreign operations,

0:31:18.600 --> 0:31:24.120
<v Speaker 1>and countries in this category include China, Israel, Iran, Russia,

0:31:24.360 --> 0:31:28.400
<v Speaker 1>Saudi Arabia, and yes, the United States. Now I didn't

0:31:28.440 --> 0:31:31.400
<v Speaker 1>include the other two categories because I'm sure you can

0:31:31.400 --> 0:31:34.960
<v Speaker 1>all extrapolate that they fit between the lowest level and

0:31:35.000 --> 0:31:38.520
<v Speaker 1>the highest level of cybertroop capacity. So really it's just

0:31:38.640 --> 0:31:42.760
<v Speaker 1>stages of capability and how much these countries are spending

0:31:42.880 --> 0:31:48.280
<v Speaker 1>on those efforts, making matters more complicated. As countries end

0:31:48.360 --> 0:31:52.080
<v Speaker 1>up developing more effective ways to leverage social media to

0:31:52.120 --> 0:31:57.000
<v Speaker 1>spread misinformation, they're also spreading those techniques around the world.

0:31:57.240 --> 0:32:00.920
<v Speaker 1>The researchers specifically call out a case in which Russian

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<v Speaker 1>operatives taught military officials in Myanmar how to manipulate people

0:32:05.640 --> 0:32:09.040
<v Speaker 1>through social media, So we're seeing the skills being shared

0:32:09.120 --> 0:32:14.520
<v Speaker 1>across territorial borders. So which online platforms are the most

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<v Speaker 1>important for people who want to spread propaganda, Well, it

0:32:19.240 --> 0:32:23.959
<v Speaker 1>should come as no surprise that Facebook leads the pack. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>not saying that because I think Facebook has a wretched

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<v Speaker 1>track record when it comes to dealing with misinformation, although

0:32:31.280 --> 0:32:34.000
<v Speaker 1>that happens to be my opinion, But that's not why

0:32:34.080 --> 0:32:37.479
<v Speaker 1>I'm saying this. I'm saying because Facebook is just so

0:32:37.600 --> 0:32:42.640
<v Speaker 1>darned popular analysts estimate that two point for one billion

0:32:42.920 --> 0:32:47.640
<v Speaker 1>people use Facebook. The world's population is approximately seven point

0:32:47.720 --> 0:32:51.920
<v Speaker 1>five three billion people, so about a third of all

0:32:52.000 --> 0:32:57.080
<v Speaker 1>the people in the world are using Facebook. So if

0:32:57.120 --> 0:32:59.400
<v Speaker 1>you want to get a message out there, you have

0:32:59.480 --> 0:33:02.800
<v Speaker 1>to go where the people are that happens to be Facebook.

0:33:03.040 --> 0:33:06.640
<v Speaker 1>So it's not necessarily the case that Facebook is less

0:33:06.640 --> 0:33:11.480
<v Speaker 1>effective at policing these things than other platforms are. Instead,

0:33:11.520 --> 0:33:15.240
<v Speaker 1>it's more like it's a target rich environment. It's where

0:33:15.240 --> 0:33:18.400
<v Speaker 1>the people happen to be. The researchers state that as

0:33:18.480 --> 0:33:21.840
<v Speaker 1>other platforms grow in use, particularly for the purposes of

0:33:21.840 --> 0:33:26.000
<v Speaker 1>political discourse, they will no doubt become targets for cyber

0:33:26.080 --> 0:33:29.640
<v Speaker 1>troops wishing to spread propaganda in the future. Another thing

0:33:29.720 --> 0:33:33.840
<v Speaker 1>working against Facebook is that it's pretty easy to figure

0:33:33.880 --> 0:33:37.160
<v Speaker 1>out how Facebook works, at least from a very high level.

0:33:37.600 --> 0:33:41.840
<v Speaker 1>The entire platform is built around the concept of engagement.

0:33:42.240 --> 0:33:47.440
<v Speaker 1>Facebook makes money when people interact with Facebook, so posts

0:33:47.480 --> 0:33:51.160
<v Speaker 1>that inspire more interaction with the platform, whether that's in

0:33:51.200 --> 0:33:56.000
<v Speaker 1>the form of comments, sharing a post, or sending likes

0:33:56.120 --> 0:33:58.960
<v Speaker 1>or whatever. These things, by the way, are not equal,

0:33:59.000 --> 0:34:02.560
<v Speaker 1>but they're all very anyway, those posts end up getting

0:34:02.600 --> 0:34:06.680
<v Speaker 1>more visibility thanks to Facebook's algorithms. If a particular post

0:34:06.760 --> 0:34:09.360
<v Speaker 1>is doing well, Facebook's more likely to show that to

0:34:09.480 --> 0:34:13.719
<v Speaker 1>more people because it's already proven to drive engagement, and

0:34:13.800 --> 0:34:17.919
<v Speaker 1>engagement is how Facebook makes money. Essentially, what it's doing

0:34:18.000 --> 0:34:22.760
<v Speaker 1>is it's selling your time to advertisers. So the more

0:34:22.760 --> 0:34:26.040
<v Speaker 1>time you spend on Facebook, the more money it's gonna make.

0:34:26.560 --> 0:34:29.440
<v Speaker 1>So if you know that as someone who's trying to

0:34:29.520 --> 0:34:32.960
<v Speaker 1>run a propaganda campaign, you can start to build posts

0:34:33.000 --> 0:34:36.319
<v Speaker 1>that drive that kind of engagement in various ways, or

0:34:36.400 --> 0:34:38.680
<v Speaker 1>you might even game the system a little bit by

0:34:38.760 --> 0:34:42.880
<v Speaker 1>using some state backed accounts, some fake accounts to boost

0:34:43.000 --> 0:34:45.920
<v Speaker 1>the signal. You post something, you get a bunch of

0:34:45.960 --> 0:34:48.279
<v Speaker 1>people sharing it and liking it. Maybe some of those

0:34:48.320 --> 0:34:51.040
<v Speaker 1>people are real, maybe a lot of them are fake accounts,

0:34:51.480 --> 0:34:53.680
<v Speaker 1>and then you try and make it go viral from there.

0:34:53.920 --> 0:34:57.560
<v Speaker 1>If it's inflammatory, all the better because it's going to

0:34:57.640 --> 0:35:00.520
<v Speaker 1>make people either want to share it because it has

0:35:01.200 --> 0:35:04.920
<v Speaker 1>uh it has affirmed a belief that they hold that

0:35:05.040 --> 0:35:10.960
<v Speaker 1>other people find wrong, or people are so upset at

0:35:11.080 --> 0:35:14.279
<v Speaker 1>how terrible the statement is they share it to let

0:35:14.280 --> 0:35:16.880
<v Speaker 1>other people know, Hey, do you see how horrible this is?

0:35:17.120 --> 0:35:20.279
<v Speaker 1>Either way, the message keeps on spreading. Other platforms that

0:35:20.320 --> 0:35:25.839
<v Speaker 1>the researchers cited included Twitter, WhatsApp, YouTube, and Instagram, and

0:35:25.880 --> 0:35:29.160
<v Speaker 1>of course others will grow in importance over time. In fact,

0:35:29.200 --> 0:35:34.360
<v Speaker 1>I've already heard about TikTok being another platform that merits

0:35:34.440 --> 0:35:37.280
<v Speaker 1>special attention in the near future, if not right darn

0:35:37.360 --> 0:35:40.799
<v Speaker 1>now now. On the one hand, it is distressing to

0:35:40.880 --> 0:35:43.720
<v Speaker 1>think that a tool like the Internet, which has often

0:35:43.760 --> 0:35:46.719
<v Speaker 1>been seen as a means to facilitate communication and the

0:35:46.800 --> 0:35:50.839
<v Speaker 1>sharing of ideas and ideals in a positive sense, has

0:35:50.880 --> 0:35:54.839
<v Speaker 1>been twisted to spread misinformation in various ways to make

0:35:54.840 --> 0:35:58.040
<v Speaker 1>people behave the way some government or some political party

0:35:58.120 --> 0:36:01.640
<v Speaker 1>wants those people to behave. On the other hand, this

0:36:01.680 --> 0:36:07.000
<v Speaker 1>isn't new. Propaganda is an old, old idea. Social media

0:36:07.080 --> 0:36:10.759
<v Speaker 1>hasn't made propaganda possible because those ideas and approaches have

0:36:10.800 --> 0:36:13.239
<v Speaker 1>been around for centuries, but it has made it much

0:36:13.280 --> 0:36:17.280
<v Speaker 1>more efficient and scalable than it ever was before. Also,

0:36:17.320 --> 0:36:20.840
<v Speaker 1>you can tailor it to a level that you couldn't before.

0:36:21.560 --> 0:36:24.200
<v Speaker 1>And it's a bit ironic that the platforms that were

0:36:24.200 --> 0:36:28.080
<v Speaker 1>ostensibly designed to let us connect with friends online and

0:36:28.120 --> 0:36:31.759
<v Speaker 1>make new ones, is simultaneously the tool of groups that

0:36:31.800 --> 0:36:36.600
<v Speaker 1>are dedicated to driving deeper divides within populations. The very

0:36:36.600 --> 0:36:38.760
<v Speaker 1>things that are supposed to bring us together are pushing

0:36:38.840 --> 0:36:42.319
<v Speaker 1>us further apart. That a tool that is supposedly meant

0:36:42.360 --> 0:36:44.640
<v Speaker 1>to allow for communication can also be a tool that

0:36:44.760 --> 0:36:49.120
<v Speaker 1>suppresses it is incredibly ironic to me, and again that

0:36:49.200 --> 0:36:53.400
<v Speaker 1>wasn't necessarily the intent of the people who made the platform.

0:36:53.440 --> 0:36:56.960
<v Speaker 1>But because people work the way they do, and because

0:36:57.160 --> 0:37:01.600
<v Speaker 1>people who are spreading misinformation know how to leverage these platforms,

0:37:01.640 --> 0:37:04.480
<v Speaker 1>that's what's happening. And there's been a lot of pressure,

0:37:04.600 --> 0:37:08.399
<v Speaker 1>particularly on Facebook and Twitter to do something about this.

0:37:08.800 --> 0:37:12.360
<v Speaker 1>A few weeks before I recorded this episode, Twitter announced

0:37:12.360 --> 0:37:15.760
<v Speaker 1>it had deleted nearly a thousand accounts that had linked

0:37:15.760 --> 0:37:21.160
<v Speaker 1>to quote significant state backed information operations end quote that

0:37:21.200 --> 0:37:24.120
<v Speaker 1>was in relation to the protest demonstrations in Hong Kong,

0:37:24.600 --> 0:37:28.360
<v Speaker 1>and the state in question at this point was China.

0:37:28.480 --> 0:37:30.960
<v Speaker 1>According to Twitter, the purpose of those accounts was to

0:37:31.040 --> 0:37:36.040
<v Speaker 1>divide Hong Kong, diminishing the support for protests. Likewise, Facebook

0:37:36.080 --> 0:37:39.480
<v Speaker 1>removed a few users and groups that it had identified

0:37:39.520 --> 0:37:42.200
<v Speaker 1>as being part of a state backed effort to undermine

0:37:42.239 --> 0:37:45.920
<v Speaker 1>the Hong Kong protesters. And because both Facebook and Twitter

0:37:46.000 --> 0:37:49.960
<v Speaker 1>are blocked in China due to the aforementioned Great Firewall

0:37:50.040 --> 0:37:52.960
<v Speaker 1>of China, the implication here is that the accounts were

0:37:52.960 --> 0:37:56.520
<v Speaker 1>attempting to shape the international perception of the story because

0:37:56.560 --> 0:37:58.480
<v Speaker 1>people in China wouldn't be able to see it. It

0:37:58.560 --> 0:38:02.880
<v Speaker 1>also indicates the yes this was state backed, because no

0:38:02.960 --> 0:38:05.719
<v Speaker 1>one in China would be able to access those platforms

0:38:06.040 --> 0:38:11.880
<v Speaker 1>without the permission and cooperation of the Chinese government itself,

0:38:11.960 --> 0:38:15.880
<v Speaker 1>otherwise just be blocked off. Over the summer of twenty nineteen,

0:38:16.239 --> 0:38:20.200
<v Speaker 1>the BBC organized a Trusted News Summit in an effort

0:38:20.239 --> 0:38:23.600
<v Speaker 1>to devise a strategy to combat the spread of disinformation.

0:38:23.920 --> 0:38:27.400
<v Speaker 1>The company reached out to major platforms like Google, Facebook,

0:38:27.440 --> 0:38:30.759
<v Speaker 1>and Twitter to come up with a strategy to minimize

0:38:30.800 --> 0:38:33.560
<v Speaker 1>the spread of false information and to make sure that

0:38:33.680 --> 0:38:37.440
<v Speaker 1>reputable reporting could rise to the top. Some of the

0:38:37.480 --> 0:38:40.600
<v Speaker 1>solutions the group came up with included the formation of

0:38:40.640 --> 0:38:43.880
<v Speaker 1>an early warning system in which one company would quickly

0:38:43.880 --> 0:38:47.040
<v Speaker 1>reach out to the others in the event and identified

0:38:47.080 --> 0:38:51.319
<v Speaker 1>a misinformation campaign. So if Twitter got wind of an

0:38:51.360 --> 0:38:53.680
<v Speaker 1>effort like the one we just mentioned with Hong Kong,

0:38:54.080 --> 0:38:57.400
<v Speaker 1>Twitter executives could send out an alert through this system

0:38:57.520 --> 0:39:00.400
<v Speaker 1>so that the folks at Google and Facebook would also

0:39:00.440 --> 0:39:03.239
<v Speaker 1>know to be on the lookout. Those efforts actually go

0:39:03.400 --> 0:39:07.440
<v Speaker 1>beyond the political propaganda covered by the Oxford Report. They

0:39:07.440 --> 0:39:11.279
<v Speaker 1>also encompass stuff like anti vaccination rhetoric, which is on

0:39:11.480 --> 0:39:15.560
<v Speaker 1>scientific and ultimately it's deadly because it discourages people from

0:39:15.560 --> 0:39:19.719
<v Speaker 1>immunizing children against diseases, which then raises the possibility of

0:39:19.800 --> 0:39:24.359
<v Speaker 1>serious and deadly outbreaks. The summit also called for newsmakers

0:39:24.360 --> 0:39:27.760
<v Speaker 1>and platforms to take more care to educate readers about issues,

0:39:28.320 --> 0:39:32.360
<v Speaker 1>educating and informing on top of reporting the news. In

0:39:32.400 --> 0:39:35.920
<v Speaker 1>the United States, DARPA, which is the agency that funds

0:39:36.120 --> 0:39:39.719
<v Speaker 1>research and development into technologies intended to contribute to the

0:39:39.760 --> 0:39:43.560
<v Speaker 1>defense of the United States, has initiated its own program

0:39:43.680 --> 0:39:48.560
<v Speaker 1>to counteract disinformation campaigns, which, you know, it is great,

0:39:49.160 --> 0:39:52.880
<v Speaker 1>but I suspect more than a few disinformation campaigns originating

0:39:52.880 --> 0:39:57.400
<v Speaker 1>from the United States have some relation distant or otherwise

0:39:57.480 --> 0:40:00.200
<v Speaker 1>to DARPA. So take that with a grain of alt.

0:40:00.280 --> 0:40:01.919
<v Speaker 1>I guess you could say it's kind of a case

0:40:01.960 --> 0:40:05.080
<v Speaker 1>of when we do it, it's a strategic tool in

0:40:05.120 --> 0:40:08.879
<v Speaker 1>our arsenal that guarantees national security, but when they do it,

0:40:08.880 --> 0:40:13.720
<v Speaker 1>it's dirty, rotten, cheating. The researchers note that we can't

0:40:13.960 --> 0:40:17.600
<v Speaker 1>just look to the social platforms to fix this problem

0:40:17.640 --> 0:40:22.320
<v Speaker 1>because the problem extends beyond the platforms. Companies like Twitter

0:40:22.400 --> 0:40:25.239
<v Speaker 1>and Facebook can form policies and enforce them to help

0:40:25.360 --> 0:40:29.160
<v Speaker 1>mitigate the spread of misinformation, but they aren't ultimately at

0:40:29.160 --> 0:40:33.240
<v Speaker 1>fault for the actual content on their services. They enable

0:40:33.560 --> 0:40:36.120
<v Speaker 1>the spread of that information, they might even promote it,

0:40:36.160 --> 0:40:39.279
<v Speaker 1>and they're certainly responsible for that. Their algorithms can be

0:40:39.320 --> 0:40:42.239
<v Speaker 1>co opted by those who know how they work and

0:40:42.520 --> 0:40:46.080
<v Speaker 1>used to malicious ends, But the root of the problem

0:40:46.239 --> 0:40:51.239
<v Speaker 1>is systemic within governments and cultures themselves, not in technology

0:40:51.320 --> 0:40:55.000
<v Speaker 1>in general or social media in particular. So to that end,

0:40:55.280 --> 0:40:59.560
<v Speaker 1>addressing propaganda really means taking a look at the institutions

0:40:59.600 --> 0:41:02.719
<v Speaker 1>and says stems within a political framework that allow it

0:41:02.800 --> 0:41:05.719
<v Speaker 1>to exist in the first place. Until we do that,

0:41:06.080 --> 0:41:09.240
<v Speaker 1>it stands to reason that the various governments and political

0:41:09.280 --> 0:41:12.719
<v Speaker 1>parties will make use of every communications tool they have

0:41:12.840 --> 0:41:17.160
<v Speaker 1>at their disposal to spread messages and suppress dissenting opinions.

0:41:17.800 --> 0:41:20.799
<v Speaker 1>The timing of the study is also interesting. It's in

0:41:20.840 --> 0:41:23.959
<v Speaker 1>the wake of Brexit, which many in the UK say

0:41:24.200 --> 0:41:28.520
<v Speaker 1>was supported in part because of a misinformation campaign, that

0:41:28.600 --> 0:41:33.160
<v Speaker 1>they were misled with false promises and pretenses, and that

0:41:33.480 --> 0:41:37.040
<v Speaker 1>social media played a big part in spreading that misinformation,

0:41:37.280 --> 0:41:41.120
<v Speaker 1>which ultimately lead to a vote in favor of Brexit,

0:41:41.719 --> 0:41:45.800
<v Speaker 1>which a lot of people now are second guessing. Not everyone,

0:41:45.880 --> 0:41:47.320
<v Speaker 1>I mean, there are a lot of people who still

0:41:47.600 --> 0:41:51.040
<v Speaker 1>fully believe that the UK should exit the EU, but

0:41:51.239 --> 0:41:54.960
<v Speaker 1>it did muddy the waters. There's also been reports of

0:41:55.000 --> 0:41:58.760
<v Speaker 1>election interference for an election interference in the United States

0:41:58.880 --> 0:42:04.000
<v Speaker 1>during the elections. Uh, And so awareness of how vulnerable

0:42:04.080 --> 0:42:07.600
<v Speaker 1>we all are to manipulation is on the rise. Now,

0:42:07.640 --> 0:42:10.120
<v Speaker 1>that doesn't mean our ability to suss it out has

0:42:10.160 --> 0:42:14.160
<v Speaker 1>improved dramatically. If anything, it has encouraged more tribalism, in

0:42:14.160 --> 0:42:17.319
<v Speaker 1>which groups of people inherently trust anything that aligns with

0:42:17.360 --> 0:42:21.719
<v Speaker 1>their own worldview and distrust anything that is outside of

0:42:21.760 --> 0:42:24.720
<v Speaker 1>that worldview. And to be fair, it can be quite

0:42:24.840 --> 0:42:28.760
<v Speaker 1>hard to identify misinformation just on the face of it.

0:42:28.760 --> 0:42:32.080
<v Speaker 1>It requires critical thinking and often a lot of research

0:42:32.160 --> 0:42:35.280
<v Speaker 1>to make sure the information you're receiving is reasonably accurate.

0:42:35.560 --> 0:42:37.840
<v Speaker 1>And as I mentioned earlier in this episode, with the

0:42:37.920 --> 0:42:40.600
<v Speaker 1>sheer amount of data we encounter in our lives, that's

0:42:40.600 --> 0:42:44.600
<v Speaker 1>not really practical. So what are we to do. Well,

0:42:44.760 --> 0:42:47.960
<v Speaker 1>we could back out on our consumption and take a

0:42:48.040 --> 0:42:51.839
<v Speaker 1>more critical approach to selecting our news sources. But that's

0:42:51.840 --> 0:42:54.480
<v Speaker 1>a lot to ask. It would mean making a dramatic

0:42:54.560 --> 0:42:57.719
<v Speaker 1>shift away from the behaviors we've cultivated over the last

0:42:57.760 --> 0:43:00.560
<v Speaker 1>decade or so longer. If you want to get issues

0:43:00.600 --> 0:43:02.319
<v Speaker 1>that kind of grew out of the twenty four hour

0:43:02.440 --> 0:43:06.759
<v Speaker 1>cable news cycle. We can push for more transparent and

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<v Speaker 1>democratic processes and government, but that's obviously not something everyone

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<v Speaker 1>can do everywhere, at least not without significant personal risk,

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<v Speaker 1>and even in countries that pride themselves on being founded

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<v Speaker 1>on principles like that, pointing out shortcomings can lead to

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<v Speaker 1>some ugly consequences. Just ask anyone in the United States

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<v Speaker 1>who has publicly questioned any politician. You get attacked pretty quickly.

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<v Speaker 1>Doesn't matter which side you're looking at either, the attacks

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<v Speaker 1>will follow. I think pressuring companies to be more proactive

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<v Speaker 1>when detecting misinformation is a good step, but we have

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<v Speaker 1>to take it upon ourselves to develop strong critical thinking skills,

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<v Speaker 1>and we have to be willing to hold public officials

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<v Speaker 1>accountable when they engage in shift e misinformation campaigns and

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<v Speaker 1>we find out about it. Like the researchers stated in

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<v Speaker 1>the paper, nothing will change unless we tackle the root

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<v Speaker 1>of the problem. Just dealing with the symptoms isn't enough,

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