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Speaker 4: In the new Peacock series Apples Never Fall. Please welcome
Speaker 4: Alison Grace. Hello a man, Thanks for being.
Speaker 2: Honest for having me.
Speaker 4: I am such a big fan of yours. Thank you,
Speaker 4: true story you have been Yes, no, I'll tell you,
Speaker 4: mar I will elaborate. You've been on two of maybe
Speaker 4: the biggest television shows known to man community.
Speaker 2: To have the biggest, biggest known to a small group
Speaker 2: of very avid fans. We appreciate it.
Speaker 4: We appreciate it so fierce fan base and so mad men.
Speaker 4: But I have to be on if my personal favorite
Speaker 4: is Glow. I was such a Glow super fan.
Speaker 2: I love my life. I know I loved that my life.
Speaker 2: I loved working on Glows so much. I've never felt
Speaker 2: like more of a badass. Hell yeah, but when I
Speaker 2: worked on it. We're doing our own stunts. I'm training,
Speaker 2: I'm flipping women. Let's be honest, I'm getting flipped by
Speaker 2: women more and that still felt cool.
Speaker 4: So it was so it was so inspiring. I love
Speaker 4: that show and it was a real bummer to all
Speaker 4: the fans that it didn't come back, But I heard
Speaker 4: that it opened up an opportunity for you to explore
Speaker 4: more writing and producing.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Absolutely, you know, I think there was something just about
Speaker 2: working with so many women, and that was the first time.
Speaker 2: I mean the show was created by Liz Flaheive and
Speaker 2: Carly Mench and there were female directors, there were women
Speaker 2: behind the camera. There were women first AD's just like
Speaker 2: in every department, female writers rooms. I mean, like it
Speaker 2: sounds like it shouldn't be a thing that you have
Speaker 2: to say, wow, there were so many women on a set,
Speaker 2: but there were and even within the cast, you know,
Speaker 2: we were all learning how to wrestle. And each woman
Speaker 2: on the show was talented, you know, behind the scenes
Speaker 2: in their real lives. They were dancers, there were singers,
Speaker 2: there were real wrestlers, and that was really inspiring to me.
Speaker 2: In the time that I was working on that show.
Speaker 2: I directed an episode, I wrote a few films that
Speaker 2: have been made, and like, it was very inspiring to
Speaker 2: me for sure, soiring, I'm blushing, being so earnest too, earnest,
Speaker 2: feel so vulnerable, vulnerable, telling you my real feelings.
Speaker 4: You wear it well, You wear it well, and now
Speaker 4: you're part of this incredible ensemble Apples Never Fall. I
Speaker 4: am obsessed with the show. I'd been in about three days, yes,
Speaker 4: which tells you how good the mystery is.
Speaker 2: It's a bingeable show, so I feel like the episodes
Speaker 2: keep you wanting more. The book was great. It's based
Speaker 2: on a book by Leanne Moriarty. She wrote Big Little Lies,
Speaker 2: Nine Perfect Strangers also been made into buzzy shows, and yeah,
Speaker 2: it's I think the reason people really connect to it
Speaker 2: too is that it's about a family and a family
Speaker 2: that is not perfect, and every family has those idiosyncrasies,
Speaker 2: and you kind of watch this family fall apart and
Speaker 2: come back together and sort of everybody has to like
Speaker 2: come to their own truth throughout the course of the show,
Speaker 2: and that they get stronger.
Speaker 4: I don't know, Yeah, I think it explores all of
Speaker 4: these interesting themes about you know, it explores the invisible woman.
Speaker 4: It explores playing these roles in your family and then
Speaker 4: your family members seeing you in a different role.
Speaker 2: Definitely the dynamics that we play in our family and
Speaker 2: then sort of like all the things you sort of
Speaker 2: keep from your family members, and also they know some
Speaker 2: of your deepest secrets. Also, you can be honest with
Speaker 2: your family members in a way you can't with anybody else,
Speaker 2: and the things you say to your family members cut deeper.
Speaker 3: Yeh, you know anyone else.
Speaker 2: The show will definitely make you want to call your mom.
Speaker 6: I think I can.
Speaker 4: Confirm that that's a thousand percent true. That's exactly how
Speaker 4: I felt. And your character Amy is described by her
Speaker 4: sister as I want to get this right, an emotional
Speaker 4: chaos sinkhole. Yeah so lovingly, isn't that those are the
Speaker 4: words of a sibling?
Speaker 2: Yeah definitely. But you play her.
Speaker 4: So beautifully and she's kind of this like hot mess
Speaker 4: on the surface, but you you play her like she's
Speaker 4: truly like one of the most emotionally evolved characters in
Speaker 4: the show.
Speaker 2: She's definitely the best communicator in this family. She's the
Speaker 2: only person who knows the word feeling, I think, and
Speaker 2: she uses it often. But yeah, I love that she
Speaker 2: wears her emotions on her sleeve. It was a fun
Speaker 2: part of the character to play and I also think
Speaker 2: because she's a bit of a catastrophis, she's sort of
Speaker 2: gets all of her mess out early on. Other characters
Speaker 2: continue to be surprised and she's like, I've been there,
Speaker 2: I'm evolving now. Yeah, you know so that's kind of ways.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and the ensemble is incredible. The cast, it's a
Speaker 4: Nette Benning, an all time icon.
Speaker 2: This was like a bucket list thing for me working
Speaker 2: with a net truly. I like, I like get a
Speaker 2: little emotional talking about working with them at Betting.
Speaker 4: You see that she was attached to this thing and
Speaker 4: were you just like, I don't need to read it.
Speaker 4: I don't need to know the character play her kitchen
Speaker 4: table if it was a Net Benning and Sam.
Speaker 2: Neil, and I just was like stop, Yes, they are
Speaker 2: the best icons and cool cats, Like just Sam Neil's
Speaker 2: rolling up like let's go to the cabaret and we did.
Speaker 6: Love that.
Speaker 4: That's your definition of a cool cat.
Speaker 2: I mean, how often does someone say I've bought us
Speaker 2: all tickets to the cabaret and you're like excited.
Speaker 4: To go, oh, that's amazing. Great it's and you were
Speaker 4: right there with them, you beautiful scenes with them. The
Speaker 4: show is so much fun. I also want to talk
Speaker 4: about you have an upcoming project coming up. It's a
Speaker 4: horror film, yes, with your husband Dave Franco.
Speaker 5: Yes.
Speaker 4: Now, when I think about the purpose of going to work,
Speaker 4: it's to get away from my husband. You feel differently
Speaker 4: about this is.
Speaker 2: Very much the opposite. Yes, especially this one. It's a
Speaker 2: horror film. I don't want to say too much about it.
Speaker 2: The film is called Together, and it's about the horrors
Speaker 2: of codependency. We play a couple that's been together over
Speaker 2: ten years and is a bit codependent. And you know,
Speaker 2: we spent two months on this choot together, twenty four
Speaker 2: hours a day every day, producing this movie, acting in
Speaker 2: it all day every day. And I loved it.
Speaker 4: Can we push in on a close up to get
Speaker 4: the single cheer and I love it the inside blink twice.
Speaker 2: I did love it. I did love it.
Speaker 3: I love my husband.
Speaker 2: I want him to be able to watch this late. Yes,
Speaker 2: it was really fun.
Speaker 4: It was really fun. Yeah, I'm very excited to see it.
Speaker 4: Congratulations on everything. I love the show so much. I
Speaker 4: cannot wait to see the movie. The entire season of
Speaker 4: Apple's Never Fall is now available on Peacock.
Speaker 7: Alison Green, I guess tonight are the members of the
Speaker 7: Grammy Award winning band Vampire Weekend.
Speaker 3: Their new album is called Only God Was Above Us.
Speaker 3: Please welcome Ezra Cannig, Chris Bayo, and Chris Thompson.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's gotta feel good.
Speaker 3: I mean, they didn't. They certainly didn't do that when
Speaker 3: I came out. So you all met while you were
Speaker 3: at Columbia together, which I'm pointing to uptown.
Speaker 8: That's right.
Speaker 3: What was there a back up plan if this didn't
Speaker 3: work out? Let's let's let's start with you, Baio.
Speaker 8: I was going to maybe teach math for two years?
Speaker 2: Teach math.
Speaker 8: Yeah, I took the l SAT and stuff. Yeah, you
Speaker 8: should say I did rather well at it. Yeah yeah,
Speaker 8: but I like a musician better than being a lawyer.
Speaker 3: What was your backup planets Room.
Speaker 5: Well, there was one year where I had a real
Speaker 5: job after graduation, before the band took off, and I
Speaker 5: taught eighth grade in Bedsteade, Brooklyn.
Speaker 4: No way.
Speaker 6: Yeah, what did you teach English?
Speaker 5: Out?
Speaker 3: English?
Speaker 5: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Okay, well you have a thing with words.
Speaker 6: Yeah, it's all connected.
Speaker 3: What about Jucy too?
Speaker 6: I also had a real job for one year, okay,
Speaker 6: not too far from here. I used to work at
Speaker 6: Sony Music Studios as an entry level tape archivist.
Speaker 3: Tape archivist. Yeah, yeah, and that doesn't even exist now
Speaker 3: does I don't think it.
Speaker 6: No, it doesn't.
Speaker 3: Your album is tremendous. I love it. The song I
Speaker 3: read somewhere that Vampire Weekend has a superb return to form?
Speaker 3: What I mean? Are we thinking about this in the
Speaker 3: studio and recording? Are we thinking about our form? What
Speaker 3: is Vampire Weekend's form? Does that annoy you even that
Speaker 3: someone else is talking about your former but annoy me
Speaker 3: a little bit?
Speaker 5: Now, that's what you hope they say every time we
Speaker 5: returned to form, we went home and we returned to
Speaker 5: the form. Right. It's hard to say because we've made
Speaker 5: five albums now and they're all pretty different from one another. Yeah,
Speaker 5: it's it's funny. I know it when I hear it.
Speaker 5: That's how I feel about what sounds like Vampire Weekend recently.
Speaker 3: Though a lot of you. I believe you're you know,
Speaker 3: you're you're iconic New York City band, but you now
Speaker 3: live in LA What the f? No?
Speaker 6: I mean, what we have?
Speaker 3: We have earthquakes here now?
Speaker 5: To you?
Speaker 3: I know, has that done anything for the band is
Speaker 3: adjustede in you in any way start with you.
Speaker 8: I guess it's been really nice all being in the
Speaker 8: same city for the last five years because we were
Speaker 8: spread out for a while. I lived in London for
Speaker 8: a period of time, and I feel like, you know,
Speaker 8: we hang all the time. We see each other every
Speaker 8: week when we're home. It's like, really nice.
Speaker 3: What's your response to LA helping the band or hurting
Speaker 3: the band.
Speaker 5: Or I like LA And you know, I know a
Speaker 5: lot of it's like any place it's spent. Like our
Speaker 5: producer Ril, who produced this album, he born and raised
Speaker 5: in LA. And I just think any time you're in
Speaker 5: a city and you spend time with people who know it,
Speaker 5: grew up there, love it, you come to love it too.
Speaker 6: What's a well tried path to New York? New York
Speaker 6: musicians go to LA. Yeah, there's always a chance for return.
Speaker 3: You never yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 6: I think there's just a lot of great people out
Speaker 6: there that we've been able to work with in the
Speaker 6: studio and live and stuff. It just it's felt like
Speaker 6: really vibrant for us.
Speaker 3: I think I can certainly say as a comedian, going
Speaker 3: somewhere new always helps a little bit well, yeah, I
Speaker 3: got some new ideas in la you don't interact with anybody.
Speaker 3: I'm sitting on the bus now instead, but only God
Speaker 3: was above us. Explain the title of the album a
Speaker 3: little bit.
Speaker 5: Well, we we were lucky that we found the cover
Speaker 5: kind of early in the process, and it's this amazing
Speaker 5: photo taken by a guy named Stephen Siegel who took
Speaker 5: all these amazing pictures in nineteen eighty eight.
Speaker 6: Steve, No, not that Stephen, Steve, who.
Speaker 3: I think's birth would probably said earlier that if we're
Speaker 3: going to edit something, yeah that's what we'll let it out.
Speaker 5: But I have a feeling I think Stephen Siga was
Speaker 5: probably born Stephen Siegel, absolutely right. But so that there's
Speaker 5: a photographer, Steven Siegel, and he the images were all
Speaker 5: taken in this what he described as a subway graveyard,
Speaker 5: so all the cars were overturns. He took these really
Speaker 5: surreal pictures of these gritty eighties New York subway cars
Speaker 5: and it was such a good image, and I kept thinking, like,
Speaker 5: where's the vampire we can going to go and eventually
Speaker 5: realized why ruined this beautiful image? And the only text
Speaker 5: on screen is the newspaper, which is a daily news headline.
Speaker 5: Only God was above us. So at first and I thought, well,
Speaker 5: that works, But then as time went on, I started
Speaker 5: to feel like this is the perfect title. Actually.
Speaker 3: I also love when a band doesn't need to plaster
Speaker 3: its name all over the place. There's a confidence with that.
Speaker 3: And that's your fifth it's your fifth album, you know,
Speaker 3: maybe that played into it. I don't know the song
Speaker 3: Mary Boone?
Speaker 5: Can you can you?
Speaker 3: Can you describe a little bit about what? Who is
Speaker 3: Mary Boone?
Speaker 8: Where does this come from?
Speaker 2: Well?
Speaker 5: Mary Boone's a very important figure in the downtown New
Speaker 5: York art world, came to prominence in the eighties, you know,
Speaker 5: which is an amazing time for New York art, well
Speaker 5: known gallerist. And this song is kind of about the
Speaker 5: you know, people coming from this to the city, trying
Speaker 5: to make it and so I don't know, I kind
Speaker 5: of picture the person sing the songs like addressing or
Speaker 5: something like an artist or something. It wants to take
Speaker 5: it to the next level.
Speaker 3: Do you remember when this band took it to the
Speaker 3: next level? Was there a moment when you said, holy shit,
Speaker 3: we actually have a little bit of money in the bank,
Speaker 3: or we can eat something now I don't have to
Speaker 3: teach math the rest of my.
Speaker 7: Well, no, not well.
Speaker 8: One moment where I felt like maybe early on we
Speaker 8: leveled up was we played our first gig in Brooklyn
Speaker 8: in two thousand and six at Pete's Candy Store for
Speaker 8: about thirty people. But it was the first time we're
Speaker 8: all here apparently. I mean that we packed it out
Speaker 8: because that's all it fits. But we played Mansard roof
Speaker 8: Apunk and one of our other songs for the very
Speaker 8: first time, and it felt like, really with us, it
Speaker 8: was the first time you maybe had enough music to
Speaker 8: make an album someday. So that was something that was
Speaker 8: very exciting that I remember. Do you remember leveling up, Ezra?
Speaker 5: I mean, yeah, there's been so many small level small
Speaker 5: levels up. I mean, look like you said, the band
Speaker 5: started in New York. We all have deep New York
Speaker 5: connections and heritage. So even on our last album twenty nineteen,
Speaker 5: we finally played the Garden, I mean, because that's true
Speaker 5: from Pete's Candy.
Speaker 3: Yeah, see two level up. Nobody ever to talk to
Speaker 3: the drummer, you know, So this is a bit I appreciate.
Speaker 6: I appreciate you having me aske quite Frankly, I think
Speaker 6: the one that comes to mind is the first time
Speaker 6: we played Glastonbury, which is a big music festival in England,
Speaker 6: and you know, we're like twenty four, like twenty four
Speaker 6: year old knuckleheads, and all of a sudden we're playing
Speaker 6: for fifty thousand Britons and it's just like, oh, my goodness,
Speaker 6: how did I get here? One of those moments where
Speaker 6: it was really just I barely remember the set, but
Speaker 6: I remember the feeling right before it.
Speaker 3: That's so cool. I say that to myself every time
Speaker 3: I sit here, How did I get here? And how
Speaker 3: stupid is everybody else to put me here? You record
Speaker 3: a lot of this album in New York, London, La
Speaker 3: and Tokyo. I have so many questions, how why? How
Speaker 3: did that transpire?
Speaker 6: What else?
Speaker 8: I mean?
Speaker 5: You know, La New York were always in La New York.
Speaker 8: But I just thought a.
Speaker 3: Band like goes to their studio and then three weeks
Speaker 3: later they drink whiskey and they fight, and then three
Speaker 3: weeks later they have this album. Is that not how
Speaker 3: it works? Am I mistaken?
Speaker 5: In the music industry, only some people are blessed and
Speaker 5: it works out that way. We we liked to take our time.
Speaker 5: But the I was living with my family over the
Speaker 5: last few years for a while in London and then Tokyo,
Speaker 5: but my wife was working both those places, so it
Speaker 5: was good to be somewhere different, have some time apart.
Speaker 5: And then Aril came out and we found studios and
Speaker 5: so yeah, we just ended up recording okay, of cities.
Speaker 3: The real reason I brought you here today is I
Speaker 3: want to talk to you about your podcast.
Speaker 8: Thank you, I mean.
Speaker 3: Here, okay, all right, Literally the whole reason your rock stars.
Speaker 3: So you don't have to do a podcast As a comedian,
Speaker 3: I'm like, I have to do my podcast, but it's
Speaker 3: like you guys don't even have to do a podcast.
Speaker 3: But tell me how this started.
Speaker 1: What is it about?
Speaker 3: You asked me backstage how tall I was? You said,
Speaker 3: we talk about this a lot.
Speaker 8: What the hell does that?
Speaker 3: Well, so, like you other, you're going to kick the
Speaker 3: shit out. No, no, it's a lot of hockey jersey.
Speaker 8: I mean, well, yeah, if you haven't heard our new podcast,
Speaker 8: it's called Vampire champ.
Speaker 3: Fire and invite to their whole studio.
Speaker 8: I think one of the origins of it is that
Speaker 8: in the fall, when the record was almost done. We
Speaker 8: went up to Oregon for the first ever Vampire Weekend
Speaker 8: corporate retreat.
Speaker 1: Oh wow.
Speaker 8: And corporations have been having corporate retreats forever, but I
Speaker 8: don't think many bands have had corporate retreats. So it's
Speaker 8: very fun. But the last night we were on the
Speaker 8: ocean and had a nice fire going and sort of
Speaker 8: discussing our plans and stuff like that. And I think
Speaker 8: it's just really fun to sit around a fire and
Speaker 8: talk about your future and talk about the things you
Speaker 8: want to achieve. So that was like one of the
Speaker 8: reasons why we did Vampire Campfire. Vampire Campfire for.
Speaker 3: Anyone who hasn't listened to what are we going to find?
Speaker 3: What are we going to live?
Speaker 5: We did talk about height heights just because I'm six
Speaker 5: feet tall, but I'm the shortest member of the band. Yeah,
Speaker 5: because these two guys are six too, so we people
Speaker 5: always ask which one of them is taller. It's actually him,
Speaker 5: oh some people think.
Speaker 8: So we were talking.
Speaker 5: About our got us next question, and so we got
Speaker 5: kind of interested in our relative heights and also the
Speaker 5: height of the fictional character Jack Reacher, because the character
Speaker 5: is taller than the actor who plays him. Correct and
Speaker 5: you're somewhere between the actor and the character.
Speaker 3: And I'll let you talk in a second. But I
Speaker 3: was furious when Tom Cruise played Jack Reacher. I mean
Speaker 3: it was like, this is but the I love that show.
Speaker 3: That show is male ego at its finest, isn't it.
Speaker 3: I just want to get a cup of coffee. I
Speaker 3: don't want anyone to bother me. Oh shit, I have
Speaker 3: to kill everybody?
Speaker 5: Right? Very cool?
Speaker 3: Yeah, what's the podcast to do for you?
Speaker 1: You know?
Speaker 6: I think a big part of being in a band
Speaker 6: is can I say bullshitting, Oh my god, and just
Speaker 6: kind of like chopping it up on the bus and airports,
Speaker 6: like there's a lot of sitting near each other while
Speaker 6: in motion. Kind of the biggest part of being in
Speaker 6: a band. And yeah, I think we just were thinking
Speaker 6: about this record and how it feels and how it
Speaker 6: feels for us to be together, and we just kind
Speaker 6: of felt like, yeah, oh, this is something we're kind
Speaker 6: of doing anyways, Like this is something we could share
Speaker 6: and it contextualizes in a cool way.
Speaker 3: Who doesn't want to hang out with their favorite band?
Speaker 3: And that's what the podcast can be. So vand bo
Speaker 3: ezra CT thank you very much.
Speaker 5: Thank you.
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