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Speaker 2: I'll be handling that.

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Speaker 1: But if you're one of these people dying for details,

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Speaker 1: Now discuss First of all, you want to know where

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Speaker 2: Isn't that interesting?

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Speaker 1: All day long, they are catching bank robbers and murderers

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Speaker 2: And why is it? This will come back foreign policies.

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Speaker 2: Stay with me. Why is that? Why is that? Well,

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Speaker 1: Another reason is it's hugely, hugely financially beneficial if someone

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Speaker 2: A foreign campaign that was totally.

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Speaker 2: Some aid to Syria with a.

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Speaker 3: New constitution, new governess serves all series. This process to

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Speaker 1: He's swooping into Syria and rebuild everything look like a

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Speaker 1: The propaganda war is always coming for you, coming for me.

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Speaker 2: ISIS.

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Speaker 1: I HATEIS you hate ISIS. If you boil down to

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Speaker 2: And so when they announced that.

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Speaker 1: We're dropping air strikes on people, of course ISIS was

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Speaker 3: We will help stability, insure stability in eastern Syria, protecting

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Speaker 2: Okay, let's hope that's what it was.

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Speaker 1: Let's remember that you also can't believe anything these people say.

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Speaker 1: Who were the fighters?

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Speaker 1: But why are we already involved? Why do we always

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Speaker 2: How that work? You know what? I changed my mind.

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Speaker 1: All that may have made you uncomfort but I am

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Speaker 1: So that was the general American Forum policy talk. But

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Speaker 1: I know you want some details. What are the factions,

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Speaker 2: We've met before.

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Speaker 1: Tell me what is going on and what we should

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Speaker 5: Well, Jesse, good to be with you, and I think

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Speaker 5: These folks are alums of both al Qaeda and Isis.

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Speaker 5: Algebt Golani has a ten million dollar Rewards for Justice

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Speaker 5: None of this is good in any way, and I

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Speaker 6: Well, it's it's interesting.

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Speaker 6: An enormous degree of concern.

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Speaker 1: Okay, let's focus on Asad now for a little bit.

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Speaker 1: How were they treated under a Sad? And you mentioned

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Speaker 5: But Shira al Asad's father came into power right around

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Speaker 5: But this is really absolutely abhorrent behavior. They also pursued

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Speaker 1: So if they hate Israel and they've attacked Israel, and

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Speaker 6: And then in twenty fifteen.

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Speaker 5: We had the spectacle of him saying, oh, Isis is

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Speaker 1: Okay, tell me about these Kurdish forces Victoria. I know

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Speaker 5: Right now, again, we're going to embrace the and there

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Speaker 5: You could see a lot better allies than we find

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Speaker 5: Defense Forces the SDF, which have been since the Obama

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Speaker 6: No one will take these are the worst of the worst.

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Speaker 5: They're women and children in this groups, and literally none

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Speaker 5: What complicates this further is President Erdowan of Turkey, of course,

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Speaker 1: And there certainly aren't. Okay, finally, I swear this is

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Speaker 5: Well, there is this sect of radical Islam who consider

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Speaker 5: the case for why a peace deal and a chord

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Speaker 1: Let's start catching up on some culture war stuff, because

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Speaker 1: that's nothing we're ever gonna set aside on this show.

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Speaker 1: As much as we care about dollars and cents, done

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Speaker 1: of that matters if we turn into Sodom and Gomorrah,

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Speaker 1: which we are well on our way. Joining me now,

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Speaker 1: DC correspondent for The Daily Wire does a great job.

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Speaker 2: Mary, Margaret Olahan.

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Speaker 1: Mary, okay, First of all, this Supreme Court hearing with

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Speaker 1: the child tranny stuff and Tennessee and things like that.

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Speaker 1: I know you wrote that wonderful book, d trans are

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Speaker 1: you what kind of a feeling did you get from that?

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Speaker 2: Are they going to uphold this law? No?

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Speaker 6: I don't think well, yes, I think they are.

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Speaker 8: What we heard from the justices last week is that

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Speaker 8: they seem very predisposed to uphold Tennessee's law protecting kids

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Speaker 8: from these transgender procedures based on everything they were saying.

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Speaker 8: Of course, we can't totally predict, and we won't have

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Speaker 8: a decision until off spring or maybe early June, but

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Speaker 8: it's looking good for Tennessee and for the legislation that

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Speaker 8: they enacted here to protect kids.

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Speaker 2: Mary.

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Speaker 1: Nationally, everyone has a different perspective on things. You're more

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Speaker 1: all over this stuff than I am. It feels like

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Speaker 1: maybe we reached peak tranny at some point in time

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Speaker 1: here and that now of fish, the tide is pushing

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Speaker 1: back the other way. I'm sure I didn't put that

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Speaker 1: as delicately as you would have, but have we reached

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Speaker 1: peak tranny? H Jesse? You might be right on that one.

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Speaker 8: I mean, especially after the twenty twenty four election, we

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Speaker 8: did this massive story here at Delley Wire about how

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Speaker 8: the Trump campaign really leaned into the transgender issues, especially

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Speaker 8: in some of their ads where they pointed out that,

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Speaker 8: you know, Kamala's for they them, president Trump is for you,

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Speaker 8: or they pointed out that Kamala supports taxpayer funded transgender

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Speaker 8: surgeries for illegal immigrants.

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Speaker 6: Just insane things.

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Speaker 8: Like that that the American people listened to and thought,

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Speaker 8: what that's absurd. And I think at the end of

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Speaker 8: the day, we know that a lot of people went

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Speaker 8: to the poll specifically on the trans issues. And voted

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Speaker 8: Trump into office specifically because of that the twenty twenty

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Speaker 8: four sleeper issue. So I would argue that the tide

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Speaker 8: is in ded turning on this topic. I think that

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Speaker 8: more and more Americans are just pushing back on this

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Speaker 8: radical craziness when it comes to men and women's spaces,

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Speaker 8: when it comes to transgender procedures for kids. And Trump

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Speaker 8: has seen this, He's leaned into that messaging. His most

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Speaker 8: effective ad was the one that I just mentioned, the

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Speaker 8: one highlighting Kammalis extremism, and I think that's very indicative

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Speaker 8: of where our culture's at.

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Speaker 6: But also all these de.

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Speaker 8: Transition or lawsuits, the legislation all over the country protecting

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Speaker 8: kids from these types of things, all of this to

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Speaker 8: me is a sign that, yes, the tide is turning.

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Speaker 2: Mary.

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Speaker 1: Now, none of the information that's come out recently has

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Speaker 1: been news to you or me or really anybody probably

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Speaker 1: watching us right now on television. So what is it

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Speaker 1: about the general public are they just now finding out?

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Speaker 2: Is that? What it is?

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Speaker 1: Is it that you and me were in a bubble

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Speaker 1: gear and everyone watching and the general public just didn't

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Speaker 1: realize how pervasive.

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Speaker 2: This stuff was. Because this has been going on for

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Speaker 2: a few years now.

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Speaker 8: It is true, it has been going on for several years.

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Speaker 8: But I think part of the problem is that our

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Speaker 8: legacy media is complicit in all of this. Our legacy

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Speaker 8: media uses the terminology of the left to obscure what's

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Speaker 8: actually going on. So, for example, they say gender affirming

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Speaker 8: care when what they should say is transgender surgeries, hormones

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Speaker 8: and puberty blockers, even for kids. But they purposefully use

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Speaker 8: these euphemisms because these leftists orgs have told them to

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Speaker 8: help them to promote these types of things, and that

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Speaker 8: sounds crazy and conspiratorial. But anytime you take a look

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Speaker 8: at CNN Associated Press and let me know if they're

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Speaker 8: talking about gender affirming care, because most Americans won't really

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Speaker 8: know what that story is about because it's so purposefully deceitful.

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Speaker 8: Whereas if you read the Daily Wire, we call it

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Speaker 8: what it is. We call it transgender surgeries, hormones and

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Speaker 8: puberty blockers.

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Speaker 6: We're not going to hide any of that.

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Speaker 8: We're going to set the truth out there and let

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Speaker 8: people decide. And I think many conservative outlets have done

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Speaker 8: this in recent months and it's really helped shine.

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Speaker 6: A light on this topic.

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Speaker 8: Conservative commentators as well people like you just speaking the truth,

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Speaker 8: you know, being funny, like you just were about the

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Speaker 8: topic and helping people understand. This is crazy. This is

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Speaker 8: not something that people are aligned with, and we got.

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Speaker 6: To put a stop to it.

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Speaker 1: Mary, There's plenty of demonic, evil crap going on when

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Speaker 1: it comes to this kind of stuff, but I don't

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Speaker 1: think a lot of people are aware of how intimately

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Speaker 1: involved big Pharma.

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Speaker 2: Is in this.

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Speaker 1: I know in my state of Texas, we just ran

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Speaker 1: recently had some training activism because of a law here.

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Speaker 1: Some people did some really good journalism and dugg Ins

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Speaker 1: wouldn't found out big Farma was funding at all, all

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Speaker 1: those turbo freaks in the streets with the leather chaps

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Speaker 1: and crap like that on It was all big pharma money.

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Speaker 1: It's big Pharma who wants these customers who are going

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Speaker 1: to need god knows how many pills and therapy for

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Speaker 1: the rest of their lives because they chopped their penis off.

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Speaker 7: Right.

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Speaker 8: People don't realize how long term these procedures are when

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Speaker 8: you think about it. Let's say, let's say your son

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Speaker 8: wants to become a woman and he starts taking estrogen.

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Speaker 8: He doesn't just take estrogen for a week. He takes

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Speaker 8: it for the rest of his life if he's trying

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Speaker 8: to be a woman for the.

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Speaker 6: Rest of his life. And that's crazy.

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Speaker 8: That's bills upon bills upon bills. That's so much hormones

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Speaker 8: in his body that should not be there. The same

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Speaker 8: thing for girls, they're pumping themselves full of testosterone for

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Speaker 8: the rest of their foreseeable life. So this is bills

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Speaker 8: for a very long time, and it is a profitable

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Speaker 8: endeavor for a big pharma. But I think the reckoning

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Speaker 8: is coming. You know, you look at these d transitioner

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Speaker 8: lawsuits and you see they're suing the hospitals, they're suing

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Speaker 8: the medical providers, they're suing the therapists and the teachers

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Speaker 8: and the doctors. Everybody is going to have their come up.

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Speaker 8: And so there was a massive lawsuit last week on

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Speaker 8: a trans doctor who's one of the most high profile ones.

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Speaker 8: She's considered the gold standard of doctors. She is being

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Speaker 8: sued for medical negligence because she pushed this child down

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Speaker 8: this path when she was only fourteen years old. Okay,

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Speaker 8: that girl for a double miss sectomy.

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Speaker 1: Oh, that is so freaking unimaginably said, Okay, let's changed

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Speaker 1: to something else. Again, you should really pick up Mary's

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Speaker 1: book T d trans if you want to get in

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Speaker 1: a little bit more bul.

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Speaker 2: On this stuff. Abortion.

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Speaker 1: Of course, the right loves to run away from this

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Speaker 1: issue now because we feel like we've lost.

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Speaker 2: But where are we on it?

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Speaker 1: Roe versus Way getting overturned was wonderful. This is not

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Speaker 1: something we can just simply dance away from, though, because

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Speaker 1: babies are still being massacred by the million.

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Speaker 2: Where are we at on it?

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Speaker 8: Well, Jesse, I always love talking about this topic with

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Speaker 8: you because you're not afraid to call it like it is.

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Speaker 8: I think post Dobbs, what we're seeing across the country

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Speaker 8: is states trying to enact protections to protect babies from

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Speaker 8: you from abortion. But we've seen so much misinformation, especially

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Speaker 8: during the election cycle.

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Speaker 6: Of course, Kamala Harris's campaign.

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Speaker 8: Knew that this was their shoe, and the more they

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Speaker 8: promoted this abortion misinformation, the more likely people were, especially

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Speaker 8: young women, to vote for Kamala based on abortion. And

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Speaker 8: so they planted stories all over the country, and they

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Speaker 8: promoted stories all over the country that spread misinformation such as,

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Speaker 8: you know, pro life laws are causing women to have

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Speaker 8: to miscarry their babies or pro life laws are causing women,

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Speaker 8: if they do miscarry their babies to not be able

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Speaker 8: to receive necessary care.

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Speaker 6: That's a lie.

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Speaker 8: Obviously, in some states like Florida have done a really

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Speaker 8: good job in combating that misinformation, but unfortunately different places

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Speaker 8: have not been so effective, and so there are many

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Speaker 8: confused women. And I think what I've seen from the

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Speaker 8: pro life movement is efforts to be really clear to

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Speaker 8: say no, this pro life law protects women. It's here

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Speaker 8: to protect women, to protect babies. You're not going to

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Speaker 8: get denied miscarriage care.

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Speaker 6: In fact, you do need that carry.

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Speaker 8: You shouldn't be afraid to go to the doctor. So

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Speaker 8: I think pro lifers are really focusing on that right now,

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Speaker 8: messaging saying we support the mom, we support the baby,

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Speaker 8: we want to be there for both of you. And

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Speaker 8: there's a lot of pushback right now and trying to

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Speaker 8: get that message across.

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Speaker 1: Very as always outstanding, we'll come back soon and thank

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Speaker 1: you for what you do. All right, So we're going

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Speaker 1: to do something a little bit different here. David Pollock

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Speaker 1: is going to join us former you know, college football standout.

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Speaker 1: I remember watching David Pollack play NFLS big sports guys

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Speaker 1: got to let's talk about some family stuff.

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Speaker 2: And I'm also gonna start.

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Speaker 1: Yelling and screaming about this stupid college football playoff.

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Speaker 2: Everyone disagrees with me on it.

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Speaker 1: I'm pitching a fit and I'm going to pitch a

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Speaker 1: fit to David Pollock about it next and see what

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Speaker 1: he has to say. Baby, who argue with me? I

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Speaker 1: don't have any idea before we get to him. Let

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Speaker 1: me talk to you about the fight for babies. We

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Speaker 1: just talked about it. What do we do? How do

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Speaker 1: we save them? Because the overturning row was great. I'm

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Speaker 1: glad it happened, but that doesn't change hearts, doesn't change minds.

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Speaker 2: How do we change a pro abortion culture? Well, ultrasound.

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Speaker 1: Ultrasound is the tool that has saved more lives than

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Speaker 1: anything else, because once a young woman hears that heartbeat,

664
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Speaker 1: not a compo sales anymore. She's a mom. She's a mom.

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Speaker 2: That's what Preborn does.

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Speaker 1: They give free ultrasounds to women who are about to

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Speaker 1: have abortions, and if Preborn can pull it off, if

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Speaker 1: they can get them in there and just get them

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Speaker 1: the ultrasound, the women will choose life almost every time.

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Speaker 1: Did you know that at twenty eight dollars you give

671
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Speaker 1: to preborn, it's not nothing.

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Speaker 2: You just bought a life.

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Speaker 1: Most likely someone will live because of you twenty eight bucks.

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Speaker 1: But whatever you give them as tax deductor, will you

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Speaker 1: give them twenty eight thousand?

676
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Speaker 2: For all I care?

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Speaker 1: Preborn dot com slash Jesse, there.

678
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Speaker 2: Is a life you have to save. We'll be back,

679
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Speaker 2: all right.

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Speaker 1: I'm excited about this, a little bit of a side

681
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Speaker 1: turn for us because I do some sports from time

682
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Speaker 1: to time, but not a bunch.

683
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Speaker 2: But when you have a former.

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Speaker 1: Round freaking pick on your show, you're going to talk

685
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Speaker 1: a little bit of college sports, pro sports joining me now.

686
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Speaker 1: David Pollock hosts a wonderful podcast now called Family Goals

687
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Speaker 1: and has a book at which we will get to

688
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Speaker 1: called The Kid Won't Quit. But I remember watching this

689
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Speaker 1: guy commit murder on Saturdays at Georgia, and now he's

690
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Speaker 1: joining us now here on I'm right, all right, David,

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Speaker 1: let's talk just briefly. We'll get to the NFL and

692
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Speaker 1: the NIL and college football and all this stuff like that.

693
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Speaker 1: But I want to get to this book because I

694
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Speaker 1: really love that people were starting to write children's books

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Speaker 1: and books in general that promote our values. I've seen

696
00:36:28,640 --> 00:36:31,080
Speaker 1: so much garbage raising my sons out there. How do

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Speaker 1: you teach a kid, you know, hard work and things

698
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Speaker 1: like that. There are finally books like that out there now,

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Speaker 1: and it blesses me.

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Speaker 9: Well, that's great to hear. And that's what we've seen

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Speaker 9: a little bit. I mean, obviously, I have two kids,

702
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Speaker 9: and like, teaching them how to compete and teaching them

703
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Speaker 9: perspective is not the easiest thing in the world. And

704
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Speaker 9: I think we read a study too going into this,

705
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Speaker 9: like sixty percent of kids that play sports quit.

706
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Speaker 7: By the age at thirteen, and that's a lot.

707
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Speaker 9: Man, that's high because football and sports teach you so

708
00:37:00,920 --> 00:37:04,160
Speaker 9: much about yourself and discipline and toughness and how to win,

709
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Speaker 9: how to work together.

710
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Speaker 7: And so that's.

711
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Speaker 9: Why we wrote it and it's called The Won't Quit Kid,

712
00:37:10,680 --> 00:37:13,359
Speaker 9: teaching kids that it's not about like being the star.

713
00:37:13,600 --> 00:37:16,240
Speaker 9: It's not about making plays, it's not about home runs

714
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Speaker 9: and touchdowns like, it's about every day trying to come

715
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Speaker 9: bring your best and be the best version of you.

716
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Speaker 9: And guess what, it's gonna be really hard, and it's

717
00:37:24,600 --> 00:37:26,960
Speaker 9: gonna hurt, and it's gonna be hot, and you go

718
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Speaker 9: have those things throughout your life. So it's kind of

719
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Speaker 9: a cool message of using sport to teach kids that

720
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Speaker 9: and for them to do their best and realize that

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Speaker 9: that's good enough.

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Speaker 1: David. My my wife asked me one time where I

723
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Speaker 1: got my confidence from.

724
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Speaker 2: And it's funny you just brought that up.

725
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Speaker 1: I told her, And I don't know that I'm right

726
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Speaker 1: about this so that you would agree, but that there's

727
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Speaker 1: not a second way to get confident than by going

728
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Speaker 1: through hard things, whether it's your sports or Marine Corps

729
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Speaker 1: or whatever.

730
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Speaker 2: It may be.

731
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Speaker 1: That, at least for dudes. I can't speak for women.

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Speaker 1: Doesn't matter how many times you tell them you're proud

733
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Speaker 1: of them, you love them, all this other stuff. Unless

734
00:38:02,640 --> 00:38:07,000
Speaker 1: something hurts, it is difficult. You can't be that confident

735
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Speaker 1: that that's where it comes from.

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Speaker 7: You agree with that, dude, You gotta fail.

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Speaker 9: I mean, if you never failed, that means you've never

738
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Speaker 9: pushed yourself to do anything great like that means you've

739
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Speaker 9: always taken it where it's easy.

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Speaker 7: So yeah, I do.

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Speaker 9: Man, It's crazy. Just I have two kids, and my

742
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Speaker 9: daughter she was born with confidence plenty plenty of her

743
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Speaker 9: daddy's confidence slash arrogance. And then I have a son

744
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Speaker 9: who was built just like mommy. And and you know,

745
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Speaker 9: it's funny because my biggest goal in life was not

746
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Speaker 9: to raise, you know, confident athletes, and my biggest goal

747
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Speaker 9: is to raise great Christian kids that put other people

748
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Speaker 9: first and served other people first. And so I didn't

749
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Speaker 9: really build confidence. That wasn't the thing I was trying

750
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Speaker 9: to do.

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Speaker 7: I was trying to get them to learn how to

752
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Speaker 7: build up others and be a great teammate.

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Speaker 9: And so what I've really learned, man, is I've got

754
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Speaker 9: to do a really good job with my son, pouring

755
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Speaker 9: into him and building his confidence. And I tell him

756
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Speaker 9: all the time, man, like God made you for something great, dude,

757
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Speaker 9: Like I watch you play and I just I love it.

758
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Speaker 9: And but I don't talk about in the plays he made,

759
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Speaker 9: but I just talk about how much I love watching

760
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Speaker 9: him compete and watching him play, and just keep reaffirming man, that,

761
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Speaker 9: like God's got an awesome plan for your life and

762
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Speaker 9: He's gonna do amazing things. And I've learned as a

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Speaker 9: parent that you know, not each kid is the same,

764
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Speaker 9: and we've got to parent them differently for sure. And

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Speaker 9: I've definitely learned with my son, man, I got to

766
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Speaker 9: pour into that confidence bucket more than I do with

767
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Speaker 9: my daughter.

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Speaker 2: That's interesting.

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Speaker 1: And I'll tell you there's just no greater time, at

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Speaker 1: least there was none for me than when my second

771
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Speaker 1: son got baptized first, when it had already knocked it

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Speaker 1: knocked it out. Once the second son did it, I said, God,

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Speaker 1: you can.

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Speaker 2: Just take me home now. I'm done.

775
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Speaker 1: I'm a happy man. Take me on at forty three.

776
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Speaker 1: That was all I needed to see in life.

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Speaker 7: That's all that is. That is great perspective.

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Speaker 9: And what if we all had that perspective, man, Like,

779
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Speaker 9: what if we all let our family from a standpoint

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Speaker 9: of like I am more conc learn.

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Speaker 10: About where they go when they die than I am

782
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Speaker 10: about sports about school, like, I think we would offer

783
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Speaker 10: so much more grace and we would be so much

784
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Speaker 10: of a better representation for them as a man going forward.

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Speaker 9: And so yeah, I remember celebrating I baptized my son,

786
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Speaker 9: and I remember celebrating. I'm like, listen, this is the

787
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Speaker 9: most proud moment I've ever had. Like, I'm not all

788
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Speaker 9: that stuff you do everywhere else. It's cool, man, and

789
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Speaker 9: that's great, But like the commitment you're making right now

790
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Speaker 9: for the rest of your life is something that I'm

791
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Speaker 9: so excited to walk out with you. And I'm so

792
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Speaker 9: excited that you made it, that you did it, so

793
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Speaker 9: I think you're right, man.

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Speaker 7: We got to pour into them.

795
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Speaker 9: We got to realize so many people missing church every

796
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Speaker 9: Sunday for sport. I'm like, we got to get this

797
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Speaker 9: figured out, man, Like, sport is not that important. Sport

798
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Speaker 9: is awesome, it's great, but it can't be everything. And

799
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Speaker 9: we see so much of that now, and we got

800
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Speaker 9: to get our kids focused on the main thing.

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Speaker 7: That's for sure.

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Speaker 1: It's the wont quick kid. I highly recommend people pick

803
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Speaker 1: up as both of mine. I'm a happy man, all right.

804
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Speaker 1: I have to yell about something, David. I hate the

805
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Speaker 1: nil and I hate the stupid college football playoff.

806
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Speaker 2: I hate. Look, I'm an Ohio State fan.

807
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Speaker 1: Don't yell at me. I'm an Ohio State fan. I

808
00:41:12,840 --> 00:41:15,840
Speaker 1: was born in Ohio. And we lost to Michigan, you know,

809
00:41:15,960 --> 00:41:18,120
Speaker 1: last week and for an Ohio Stan and they's supposed

810
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Speaker 1: to be devastating, like the end of the world, right,

811
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Speaker 1: And I was bummed, But it wasn't the end of

812
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Speaker 1: the world because I knew we were getting in anyway

813
00:41:24,000 --> 00:41:26,440
Speaker 1: that should have ended our season. But now because of

814
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Speaker 1: the stupid playoff, the stakes aren't as high.

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Speaker 2: I freaking ate it.

816
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Speaker 7: Or are the stakes higher, Jesse?

817
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Speaker 9: I mean we were told, Jesse that this was going

818
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Speaker 9: to devalue the regular season.

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Speaker 7: Did it devalue the regular season? Or did we have

820
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Speaker 7: more team yes, with a chance to crack at the

821
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Speaker 7: apple at the end.

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Speaker 1: Okay, I don't disagree. I don't disagree, but I say

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Speaker 1: it did devalue the regular season because while I was

824
00:41:51,000 --> 00:41:53,200
Speaker 1: bummed after we lost the Michigan, you never want to

825
00:41:53,200 --> 00:41:56,359
Speaker 1: lose the Michigan, especially a crappy Michigan team, when you

826
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Speaker 1: know you still might be hoisting up the National Championship

827
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Speaker 1: title trophy at the end of the year, it's not

828
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Speaker 1: as devastating. I guess that's my point. You've taken at

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Speaker 1: least some of the stakes out of the regular season.

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Speaker 2: That's my complaint.

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Speaker 7: I can get down with that.

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Speaker 9: But here's the thing, Jesse, and listen, you're an Ohio

833
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Speaker 9: State fan and I'm a Georgia guy, so we don't

834
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Speaker 9: have to worry about it as much because our teams

835
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Speaker 9: are always pretty dang good.

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Speaker 7: But here's the thing that's cool. Indiana is in the playoffs.

837
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Speaker 9: SMUs in the playoffs, like Boise State is in the playoffs,

838
00:42:29,160 --> 00:42:32,280
Speaker 9: Like that is so cool. Arizona State is in the playoffs.

839
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Speaker 9: Those are four teams that never have a chance to

840
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Speaker 9: get there. And because of nil, because of these kids

841
00:42:38,360 --> 00:42:41,640
Speaker 9: in the transfer portal, the talent goes all over the country.

842
00:42:41,640 --> 00:42:44,560
Speaker 9: Now it doesn't go to Ohio State and Georgia and

843
00:42:44,600 --> 00:42:46,839
Speaker 9: Alabama because you know what the recruiting pitch for those

844
00:42:46,840 --> 00:42:47,560
Speaker 9: teams used to be.

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Speaker 7: Come here.

846
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Speaker 9: I know you'll sit on the bench for your first year,

847
00:42:50,880 --> 00:42:53,640
Speaker 9: maybe your first two years, but we will develop you

848
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Speaker 9: and put you in the NFL and make you a

849
00:42:55,719 --> 00:42:57,960
Speaker 9: lot of money. Now everybody's like, wait a minute, I

850
00:42:57,960 --> 00:42:59,440
Speaker 9: can go over there and I can go make a

851
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Speaker 9: lot of money.

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Speaker 7: I don't have to worry.

853
00:43:00,719 --> 00:43:03,440
Speaker 9: About sitting on the bench at Ohio State or Georgia

854
00:43:03,560 --> 00:43:06,800
Speaker 9: or Alabama. So I think parody is here to stay.

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Speaker 9: I think your one transfer portal team away from Indiana

856
00:43:11,600 --> 00:43:14,520
Speaker 9: FSU a year ago. Now, I think you can rebuild

857
00:43:14,560 --> 00:43:17,360
Speaker 9: faster than ever and it kind of changes the landscape

858
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Speaker 9: and we have more parody than we ever had.

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Speaker 1: Oh imagine losing a prize player to Indiana gosh, David Pollock,

860
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Speaker 1: go pick up his book. Appreciate you very much, sir.

861
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Speaker 1: All right, we have light the Mood next. All right,

862
00:43:43,800 --> 00:43:44,919
Speaker 1: it is time.

863
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Speaker 2: To lighten the mood.

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Speaker 1: And there's nothing that does my heart well playing lighten

865
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Speaker 1: the mood. Videos that bring trauma to people, so without

866
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Speaker 1: further ado, enjoyed. And that's why you don't ever let

867
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Speaker 1: Dad dress up as the Grinch, because he's going to

868
00:44:33,680 --> 00:44:34,239
Speaker 1: take it too far.

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Speaker 2: Suitable