1 00:00:01,000 --> 00:00:03,480 Speaker 1: You can watch the original episode we'll be discussing and 2 00:00:03,720 --> 00:00:07,480 Speaker 1: every other episode of HBO's Curb Your Enthusiasm. 3 00:00:06,880 --> 00:00:09,520 Speaker 2: Including the new and final season, on Max. 4 00:00:09,720 --> 00:00:10,800 Speaker 3: You can also watch the. 5 00:00:10,840 --> 00:00:14,200 Speaker 1: Video version of the History of Curb Your Enthusiasm podcast 6 00:00:14,280 --> 00:00:16,000 Speaker 1: on Max and YouTube as well. 7 00:00:16,320 --> 00:00:18,400 Speaker 2: Links available in the episode description. 8 00:00:26,600 --> 00:00:28,920 Speaker 4: All Right, hi everybody, this is the. 9 00:00:28,840 --> 00:00:31,840 Speaker 1: History of Curby Enthusiasm, and we're doing the so called 10 00:00:32,000 --> 00:00:36,159 Speaker 1: pilot special episode now the first thing before there was 11 00:00:36,159 --> 00:00:39,519 Speaker 1: a series. Yes, it was so interesting to watch to me, 12 00:00:41,080 --> 00:00:44,400 Speaker 1: and one of the things that I missed more than anything. 13 00:00:44,400 --> 00:00:45,040 Speaker 3: Was the music. 14 00:00:45,680 --> 00:00:47,120 Speaker 4: Different, music cues different. 15 00:00:47,159 --> 00:00:50,280 Speaker 3: I mean, it was a lovely, whimsical little jazz was fine. 16 00:00:50,320 --> 00:00:50,920 Speaker 4: It was fine. 17 00:00:51,040 --> 00:00:53,600 Speaker 1: The thing about the Curb music, you know, once we 18 00:00:53,720 --> 00:00:57,600 Speaker 1: start episode one of season one next week, is it 19 00:00:57,680 --> 00:01:01,280 Speaker 1: creates the world that now does way that I missed. 20 00:01:01,480 --> 00:01:04,120 Speaker 5: By the way, most of the music cues are still 21 00:01:04,160 --> 00:01:06,040 Speaker 5: from the first episode of the first season. 22 00:01:06,400 --> 00:01:08,600 Speaker 4: Like it didn't. It didn't get moved or replaced, and. 23 00:01:08,600 --> 00:01:10,640 Speaker 1: I always felt like, well, we'll talk about it next 24 00:01:10,640 --> 00:01:11,800 Speaker 1: week when we get to that episode. 25 00:01:11,800 --> 00:01:14,280 Speaker 3: But the music cues to me are a laugh track. 26 00:01:14,720 --> 00:01:17,240 Speaker 4: Oh they can be. Yeah on the first one. 27 00:01:17,360 --> 00:01:20,600 Speaker 5: Yeah, on the special yeah, yeah, I didn't dig it. 28 00:01:21,240 --> 00:01:23,399 Speaker 3: I just can't believe how much I missed the music 29 00:01:23,480 --> 00:01:24,440 Speaker 3: on this one. 30 00:01:25,000 --> 00:01:28,520 Speaker 5: Well, I didn't miss the music because I was there 31 00:01:28,600 --> 00:01:30,600 Speaker 5: editing every day and I was there with the music 32 00:01:30,680 --> 00:01:32,319 Speaker 5: cues and so I remember that. 33 00:01:32,440 --> 00:01:33,480 Speaker 4: So it just fit that. 34 00:01:33,720 --> 00:01:37,119 Speaker 3: Yeah, because the show, it's all right. 35 00:01:37,440 --> 00:01:40,280 Speaker 5: I went to do a movie once in Toronto, okay, 36 00:01:40,720 --> 00:01:44,560 Speaker 5: and Toronto felt like the United States of America. But 37 00:01:44,720 --> 00:01:48,520 Speaker 5: something was wrong a sports center. Hockey's the lead story 38 00:01:48,760 --> 00:01:51,560 Speaker 5: that alone, but yeah, something which is And by the 39 00:01:51,600 --> 00:01:53,560 Speaker 5: wa're talking slightly. 40 00:01:53,400 --> 00:01:56,720 Speaker 1: And everybody's so much nicer oh in Toronto. Yeah, way night, 41 00:01:56,800 --> 00:01:57,400 Speaker 1: And that kind. 42 00:01:57,240 --> 00:01:58,600 Speaker 3: Of throws me as a New Yorker. 43 00:01:59,080 --> 00:02:01,160 Speaker 4: Toronto's like may yeah. Yeah. 44 00:02:01,680 --> 00:02:03,760 Speaker 1: So yeah that's how this felt. I agree with you. 45 00:02:03,840 --> 00:02:05,960 Speaker 1: It feels like Toronto this special. 46 00:02:06,080 --> 00:02:09,960 Speaker 4: So it's off, but it is. I enjoyed it very much. 47 00:02:10,760 --> 00:02:12,600 Speaker 5: I wish I could go back in time and we 48 00:02:12,680 --> 00:02:14,280 Speaker 5: cut about fifteen minutes out of it. 49 00:02:14,560 --> 00:02:14,800 Speaker 3: See. 50 00:02:14,840 --> 00:02:17,680 Speaker 1: To me? What was disorienting about it watching it, and 51 00:02:17,760 --> 00:02:19,560 Speaker 1: I think the only time I've seen it was when 52 00:02:19,560 --> 00:02:23,120 Speaker 1: it first came out, right, was the back and forth 53 00:02:23,200 --> 00:02:25,760 Speaker 1: between the reality and the. 54 00:02:25,600 --> 00:02:27,560 Speaker 4: It was annoying. Yeah, it was annoying. 55 00:02:27,639 --> 00:02:28,040 Speaker 3: Yeah. 56 00:02:28,160 --> 00:02:31,040 Speaker 5: And by the way, the interviews, all of the interviews 57 00:02:31,040 --> 00:02:32,800 Speaker 5: were real, except for my character. 58 00:02:33,600 --> 00:02:36,360 Speaker 4: My character is speaking like he really is. 59 00:02:36,840 --> 00:02:39,760 Speaker 3: Caera was not interviewed. If I record, no, Yeah. 60 00:02:39,600 --> 00:02:42,679 Speaker 5: So it was to my analogy that she might have 61 00:02:42,760 --> 00:02:45,239 Speaker 5: been having just watched it a week ago. But I 62 00:02:45,280 --> 00:02:46,760 Speaker 5: don't remember. And by the way, I have a lot 63 00:02:46,760 --> 00:02:50,320 Speaker 5: of notes written down. Good luck be remembering half of them. 64 00:02:50,360 --> 00:02:52,560 Speaker 5: But if you ask questions, I'll get there. I'll remember. 65 00:02:52,600 --> 00:02:56,239 Speaker 1: So a couple of things struck me. Okay, the music 66 00:02:56,360 --> 00:02:59,560 Speaker 1: was one. The other that was so interesting is that 67 00:03:00,120 --> 00:03:04,040 Speaker 1: the basis of the characters of yours and Larry's and Cheryl's, 68 00:03:04,040 --> 00:03:06,400 Speaker 1: which are really the only characters at that point, it 69 00:03:06,480 --> 00:03:07,000 Speaker 1: was there. 70 00:03:07,200 --> 00:03:10,320 Speaker 5: It was completely there except for one thing. And this 71 00:03:10,440 --> 00:03:15,760 Speaker 5: is kind of fascinating. So Cheryl did not like Jeff Green. 72 00:03:16,680 --> 00:03:17,560 Speaker 3: I was going to bring that out. 73 00:03:17,639 --> 00:03:22,480 Speaker 5: No, she did not like Jeff Green and hated pretty much, 74 00:03:22,520 --> 00:03:23,919 Speaker 5: and she couldn't hide her disdain. 75 00:03:24,160 --> 00:03:30,840 Speaker 6: Some people just rub you the wrong way. Yeah, and 76 00:03:30,880 --> 00:03:34,240 Speaker 6: that's how I feel about Jeff. I just feel like, 77 00:03:36,440 --> 00:03:39,000 Speaker 6: I'm not sure he's always thinking about Larry. 78 00:03:39,440 --> 00:03:43,480 Speaker 5: And Larry, who is a big bowl, a brilliant when 79 00:03:43,520 --> 00:03:46,760 Speaker 5: he went to the first episode, he completely changed. He 80 00:03:46,840 --> 00:03:50,600 Speaker 5: changed that and Cheryl always I irritate Cheryl sometimes, but 81 00:03:51,080 --> 00:03:53,440 Speaker 5: she grew to even love Mike Garrette. 82 00:03:53,480 --> 00:03:54,520 Speaker 3: What was the reasoning for that? 83 00:03:55,960 --> 00:03:56,000 Speaker 1: Know? 84 00:03:56,320 --> 00:03:59,200 Speaker 5: What I do remember is Larry felt like the show 85 00:03:59,240 --> 00:04:02,720 Speaker 5: had nowhere to go if that was our relationship. And 86 00:04:02,800 --> 00:04:06,640 Speaker 5: Carolyn Strauss, who is one of my favorite executives, maybe 87 00:04:06,680 --> 00:04:07,600 Speaker 5: my favorite executive. 88 00:04:07,680 --> 00:04:09,520 Speaker 1: It was an executive at HBO at the time. 89 00:04:09,800 --> 00:04:14,920 Speaker 5: Yeah, programming, you know, and believe it or not, that 90 00:04:15,080 --> 00:04:18,360 Speaker 5: was the one note we got. She wanted more of 91 00:04:18,480 --> 00:04:23,000 Speaker 5: us conflict, Yeah, conflict between Cheryl and I and Larry 92 00:04:23,080 --> 00:04:24,680 Speaker 5: said no, it won't work, and. 93 00:04:24,640 --> 00:04:25,760 Speaker 3: He was right. 94 00:04:25,800 --> 00:04:28,200 Speaker 5: And back then I didn't know. I'm like, oh, he 95 00:04:28,200 --> 00:04:30,479 Speaker 5: doesn't want to new conflict. I didn't think anything of it. 96 00:04:30,560 --> 00:04:33,000 Speaker 3: And it was actually a big storyline. 97 00:04:33,040 --> 00:04:34,680 Speaker 5: By the way, I don't want to make out like 98 00:04:34,920 --> 00:04:38,720 Speaker 5: Carolyn Strauss. Pretty much everything she says I agree with. 99 00:04:39,000 --> 00:04:40,840 Speaker 5: I just want to make that clear. I don't want 100 00:04:40,839 --> 00:04:43,000 Speaker 5: to make it like she gave us stupid notes. That 101 00:04:43,160 --> 00:04:47,000 Speaker 5: was the only note. There were no other notes going 102 00:04:47,120 --> 00:04:51,520 Speaker 5: from the hour to the series. There was no zero. 103 00:04:51,760 --> 00:04:54,240 Speaker 1: And what's interesting is Larry I know in all his 104 00:04:54,360 --> 00:04:58,480 Speaker 1: Seinfeld years never took notes. People don't know how unusual 105 00:04:58,520 --> 00:04:58,839 Speaker 1: that is. 106 00:04:59,040 --> 00:05:02,679 Speaker 5: Well, my own way of doing it, which is I nod, 107 00:05:02,839 --> 00:05:04,560 Speaker 5: I listen, I say that's great. 108 00:05:04,560 --> 00:05:05,719 Speaker 4: And I never do any of it. 109 00:05:05,960 --> 00:05:09,560 Speaker 5: But by the way, I'm always open to something being oh, 110 00:05:09,640 --> 00:05:12,080 Speaker 5: that's a good idea, but most of them are terrible. 111 00:05:12,160 --> 00:05:14,720 Speaker 3: Yeah. So now I don't think Jeff correct me if 112 00:05:14,760 --> 00:05:15,160 Speaker 3: I'm wrong. 113 00:05:15,560 --> 00:05:19,000 Speaker 1: Beyond the pilot episode, I don't think there were any notes. 114 00:05:19,440 --> 00:05:22,360 Speaker 5: No, no, you know what. There might have been, but 115 00:05:22,480 --> 00:05:25,960 Speaker 5: there were just like the way thing, there were nothing. 116 00:05:26,040 --> 00:05:26,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, and I. 117 00:05:26,720 --> 00:05:29,120 Speaker 5: Wouldn't be surprised if Larry even did some of them 118 00:05:29,360 --> 00:05:33,160 Speaker 5: or went yeah, yeah, you're right, because he respected Carolyn Strauss. 119 00:05:33,520 --> 00:05:37,960 Speaker 5: And the feeling of the show is the respect one 120 00:05:38,000 --> 00:05:42,719 Speaker 5: way or another. You know, HBO respected us, We respected them. However, 121 00:05:43,320 --> 00:05:46,440 Speaker 5: HBO used to refer to us even during the first 122 00:05:46,440 --> 00:05:50,120 Speaker 5: season into the second season this was our name, their 123 00:05:50,200 --> 00:05:51,719 Speaker 5: little experimental show. 124 00:05:51,920 --> 00:05:54,560 Speaker 3: Uh huh, because we shot digitally, Yeah. 125 00:05:54,320 --> 00:05:59,040 Speaker 5: And we were improvising. Their little experimental show was a 126 00:05:59,040 --> 00:06:02,279 Speaker 5: little experimental show is now the longest running show and 127 00:06:02,400 --> 00:06:03,160 Speaker 5: has been. 128 00:06:03,200 --> 00:06:04,000 Speaker 4: In the history of age. 129 00:06:04,080 --> 00:06:06,280 Speaker 1: We felt that by the way, we felt that we 130 00:06:06,279 --> 00:06:08,799 Speaker 1: were not the sopranos. We were not Sex and the City. 131 00:06:08,839 --> 00:06:11,080 Speaker 1: We didn't have that kind of budget for you. We 132 00:06:11,080 --> 00:06:13,200 Speaker 1: were just kind of I got a barn, let's do 133 00:06:13,240 --> 00:06:14,360 Speaker 1: a show kind of a thing. 134 00:06:14,480 --> 00:06:16,640 Speaker 3: At what point when you. 135 00:06:16,600 --> 00:06:21,080 Speaker 1: Were shooting this initial special did it come up that 136 00:06:21,120 --> 00:06:22,200 Speaker 1: there was going to be a series? 137 00:06:22,320 --> 00:06:22,680 Speaker 4: Okay? 138 00:06:23,200 --> 00:06:27,120 Speaker 5: The unusual thing about the hour we shot linear We 139 00:06:27,160 --> 00:06:29,800 Speaker 5: shot everything in order. So if we were shooting a 140 00:06:29,839 --> 00:06:32,599 Speaker 5: scene and then we're shooting another scene of block down 141 00:06:32,960 --> 00:06:35,160 Speaker 5: and then the next scenes where we're at we'd go 142 00:06:35,279 --> 00:06:36,960 Speaker 5: the block shoot it come back. 143 00:06:37,000 --> 00:06:38,480 Speaker 3: Like everything expensive. 144 00:06:38,960 --> 00:06:41,880 Speaker 5: It adds to the budget, that's for sure, and it's difficult. 145 00:06:42,240 --> 00:06:46,440 Speaker 5: It's difficult. So the first scenes of Larry and I 146 00:06:46,520 --> 00:06:49,280 Speaker 5: coming in and he's frustrated that he has to do this. 147 00:06:49,640 --> 00:06:50,560 Speaker 5: Is this camera going. 148 00:06:50,560 --> 00:06:51,120 Speaker 4: To be here? 149 00:06:51,480 --> 00:06:55,280 Speaker 5: He's doing that? Well, we had a little exchange where 150 00:06:55,279 --> 00:06:58,800 Speaker 5: I thought to myself, boy, this could be something, and 151 00:06:58,839 --> 00:07:00,960 Speaker 5: that was he ask me if I want a piece 152 00:07:00,960 --> 00:07:02,680 Speaker 5: of gum? I said no, I don't like gum. I 153 00:07:02,720 --> 00:07:06,679 Speaker 5: don't chew gum, which is reminiscent of the time later 154 00:07:06,760 --> 00:07:09,360 Speaker 5: on when we're on a plane where he. 155 00:07:09,320 --> 00:07:09,960 Speaker 4: Said what are you doing? 156 00:07:10,000 --> 00:07:12,720 Speaker 5: I go just flying to nothing and then you know 157 00:07:12,760 --> 00:07:15,760 Speaker 5: what's so funny about that. He didn't like that, and 158 00:07:15,800 --> 00:07:18,120 Speaker 5: he said, do something different, and I did different things, 159 00:07:18,360 --> 00:07:20,720 Speaker 5: and then he said to me, no, let's use the one, 160 00:07:20,880 --> 00:07:22,080 Speaker 5: you know with the thing. 161 00:07:22,280 --> 00:07:23,080 Speaker 4: So we had this. 162 00:07:23,440 --> 00:07:26,760 Speaker 5: Gum thing and then there was the hallway with the 163 00:07:26,840 --> 00:07:30,400 Speaker 5: nodding to black people, just giving them a shot. His 164 00:07:30,520 --> 00:07:33,040 Speaker 5: great line is I want to show them that I'm 165 00:07:33,040 --> 00:07:37,480 Speaker 5: one of the good ones, which made me burst out laughing. 166 00:07:38,080 --> 00:07:40,840 Speaker 5: And that's how the show is. You hear something you 167 00:07:40,880 --> 00:07:44,120 Speaker 5: feel like laughing at laugh That's not the way TV 168 00:07:44,240 --> 00:07:47,360 Speaker 5: comedies have worked for a long time. For a long time, 169 00:07:47,800 --> 00:07:52,200 Speaker 5: someone says something funny, everyone reacts like nothing happened. The 170 00:07:52,320 --> 00:07:55,520 Speaker 5: closest to it, I would say is the Andy Griffiths 171 00:07:55,520 --> 00:07:58,559 Speaker 5: show when don Knots would do something, Andy would smile 172 00:07:58,920 --> 00:08:00,280 Speaker 5: sometimes laugh, you know. 173 00:08:00,560 --> 00:08:02,280 Speaker 4: To me, that's how it should be. 174 00:08:02,640 --> 00:08:05,080 Speaker 1: Right after that elevator scene, when you're coming out of 175 00:08:05,120 --> 00:08:07,320 Speaker 1: the elevator and I forgot one of you points to 176 00:08:07,360 --> 00:08:09,080 Speaker 1: the camera. It was either you or Larry, I don't 177 00:08:09,120 --> 00:08:11,920 Speaker 1: remember who it was. I think it was you acknowledges 178 00:08:11,960 --> 00:08:15,560 Speaker 1: the camera. So that's also something that's completely changed. 179 00:08:15,840 --> 00:08:18,200 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, completely. There is no camera. 180 00:08:18,320 --> 00:08:19,160 Speaker 3: There's no camera this. 181 00:08:20,880 --> 00:08:23,840 Speaker 4: Fourth wall. But here's what I say to answer your question. 182 00:08:24,200 --> 00:08:27,400 Speaker 5: Yes, we had so much fun doing all that, And 183 00:08:27,400 --> 00:08:30,240 Speaker 5: then we went into to film the scene of us 184 00:08:30,280 --> 00:08:34,880 Speaker 5: pitching the show with Alan Wasserman, wonderful actor, and Judy Toll, 185 00:08:35,760 --> 00:08:38,240 Speaker 5: one of my favorite comedic voices of all time, who 186 00:08:38,800 --> 00:08:41,920 Speaker 5: passed away number of years ago. I was close with 187 00:08:42,040 --> 00:08:46,680 Speaker 5: Judy and my wife of yore cast the show, which 188 00:08:46,679 --> 00:08:49,079 Speaker 5: we talked about in the last episode, and Judy was 189 00:08:49,120 --> 00:08:51,960 Speaker 5: a close friend of us. But Judy did our show twice. 190 00:08:52,360 --> 00:08:56,360 Speaker 5: She was also in the wheelchair episode, you know, and 191 00:08:56,400 --> 00:08:59,320 Speaker 5: she was having a tough time, but she died, you know, 192 00:08:59,480 --> 00:09:03,760 Speaker 5: of cancer her and she would We filmed that scene 193 00:09:04,200 --> 00:09:07,439 Speaker 5: and even her in that scene, she nailed the typical 194 00:09:07,800 --> 00:09:12,000 Speaker 5: executive Is there any tape we could see. 195 00:09:12,040 --> 00:09:12,240 Speaker 4: You know? 196 00:09:12,280 --> 00:09:14,560 Speaker 5: And then Larry said the funny thing of there's no 197 00:09:14,600 --> 00:09:17,760 Speaker 5: tape anywhere of me. There's nothing anyone can see. And 198 00:09:17,800 --> 00:09:21,440 Speaker 5: we had so much fun doing that. When we walked 199 00:09:21,440 --> 00:09:24,359 Speaker 5: out of shooting that scene, that specific scene. 200 00:09:24,080 --> 00:09:26,280 Speaker 3: Which was very early on and. 201 00:09:26,160 --> 00:09:29,720 Speaker 5: By the way, those were the real HBO offices at 202 00:09:29,720 --> 00:09:32,960 Speaker 5: the time, and when we walked out, Larry said to me, 203 00:09:33,000 --> 00:09:36,200 Speaker 5: we're supposed standing by these desks sort of away from 204 00:09:36,200 --> 00:09:38,720 Speaker 5: the set. He said, wouldn't this be great to do 205 00:09:38,760 --> 00:09:42,800 Speaker 5: as a series? Now I said, yeah, that would be amazing, 206 00:09:43,200 --> 00:09:46,360 Speaker 5: But inside my head I actually was saying, yeah, right, 207 00:09:46,400 --> 00:09:47,880 Speaker 5: we're going to do a series out of this. 208 00:09:49,120 --> 00:09:51,880 Speaker 3: What happened? Did he pitch it to HBO? 209 00:09:52,000 --> 00:09:52,040 Speaker 1: No? 210 00:09:52,440 --> 00:09:58,640 Speaker 4: No, no, no, Both HBO wanted to work with Larry. 211 00:09:58,600 --> 00:10:00,840 Speaker 3: But have they seen footage they. 212 00:10:00,720 --> 00:10:04,479 Speaker 5: Had surrounded Larry like they're birds surrounding that. Well, I'm 213 00:10:04,559 --> 00:10:07,720 Speaker 5: losing it a lot. They flocked to Larry, and Larry 214 00:10:07,800 --> 00:10:10,760 Speaker 5: told me when we talked about doing the show, he said, 215 00:10:10,920 --> 00:10:13,640 Speaker 5: HBO really wants to do something with me, and he 216 00:10:13,840 --> 00:10:16,920 Speaker 5: was sort of open to that because HBO at that 217 00:10:17,000 --> 00:10:21,240 Speaker 5: point was pretty high falutin. The sopranos were lifting them 218 00:10:21,320 --> 00:10:24,640 Speaker 5: up above everybody else, right, So we had fun the 219 00:10:24,679 --> 00:10:27,200 Speaker 5: whole time, and as we were cutting it, you know, 220 00:10:27,240 --> 00:10:29,679 Speaker 5: and then afterwards just going that would be great, we 221 00:10:29,720 --> 00:10:31,760 Speaker 5: should do this. And I, of course I'm not going 222 00:10:31,840 --> 00:10:34,760 Speaker 5: to argue even though I agreed with him. I'm happy 223 00:10:34,800 --> 00:10:38,080 Speaker 5: to not agree with him on things, but that one, 224 00:10:38,400 --> 00:10:40,079 Speaker 5: no matter what, I'm like, yeah, that would be. 225 00:10:40,000 --> 00:10:41,520 Speaker 3: Great, But you didn't think it was going to happen. 226 00:10:41,720 --> 00:10:43,680 Speaker 5: By the way, even by the last day of filming, 227 00:10:43,720 --> 00:10:44,959 Speaker 5: I didn't think it was gonna happen. 228 00:10:45,160 --> 00:10:47,959 Speaker 1: My recollection is when he called me, which I'll talk 229 00:10:47,960 --> 00:10:50,480 Speaker 1: about next episode. How I got the part because I'm 230 00:10:50,480 --> 00:10:53,360 Speaker 1: in the first episode. This had not aired yet. When 231 00:10:53,360 --> 00:10:56,960 Speaker 1: the decision to start shooting in a series, this special 232 00:10:57,000 --> 00:10:57,959 Speaker 1: had not aired yet. 233 00:10:58,120 --> 00:11:00,960 Speaker 5: Yeah, it's better that it didn't dare yet because we 234 00:11:01,000 --> 00:11:03,760 Speaker 5: didn't get a lot of viewers. It was not like 235 00:11:03,800 --> 00:11:07,160 Speaker 5: a huge success, right, and then even the first season. 236 00:11:06,920 --> 00:11:08,600 Speaker 3: Was we built up seasons. 237 00:11:08,679 --> 00:11:12,400 Speaker 5: Yeah, we built up slowly to where we started a note. 238 00:11:12,600 --> 00:11:15,120 Speaker 5: What I can tell you now when we became a. 239 00:11:15,160 --> 00:11:18,520 Speaker 1: Hit, Well, I can tell you anecdotally for me, when 240 00:11:18,520 --> 00:11:20,280 Speaker 1: people started stopping me in the street. 241 00:11:20,480 --> 00:11:23,280 Speaker 3: Season three, Okay, what happened? 242 00:11:23,320 --> 00:11:28,480 Speaker 5: Season three? We followed the Sopranos. Oh, maybe a great 243 00:11:28,520 --> 00:11:30,720 Speaker 5: season of Sopranos followed by us, and that went for 244 00:11:30,760 --> 00:11:35,480 Speaker 5: three or four more years. Yeah, ninety minutes of wow, 245 00:11:35,600 --> 00:11:36,320 Speaker 5: great work. 246 00:11:36,679 --> 00:11:38,600 Speaker 4: And I'm talking mostly Sopranos. 247 00:11:38,600 --> 00:11:40,920 Speaker 5: I don't want to you know, but that was about 248 00:11:41,000 --> 00:11:44,040 Speaker 5: ninety minutes of television as good as it gets. Yeah, 249 00:11:44,480 --> 00:11:48,240 Speaker 5: that was like Saturday night CBS in the seventies. With 250 00:11:49,080 --> 00:11:52,640 Speaker 5: Mary Tyler Moore, Bob Newhart and the Carol Burnett Show. 251 00:11:53,559 --> 00:11:57,600 Speaker 5: What people who loved the Sopranos were definitely gonna love 252 00:11:57,679 --> 00:11:58,880 Speaker 5: Curb Your Enthusiasm. 253 00:11:59,160 --> 00:12:01,120 Speaker 4: But I'll talk more of that in future. 254 00:12:01,160 --> 00:12:01,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, when we go. 255 00:12:01,960 --> 00:12:05,440 Speaker 1: So the thing that stuck to me about this special 256 00:12:05,800 --> 00:12:09,920 Speaker 1: was your character was already your character, and I know 257 00:12:10,040 --> 00:12:13,160 Speaker 1: that character is not you whatsoever, So I want to 258 00:12:13,200 --> 00:12:16,960 Speaker 1: talk about that how you created that. Larry's interesting to 259 00:12:17,000 --> 00:12:18,880 Speaker 1: me because at one point he says, so all I 260 00:12:18,920 --> 00:12:21,079 Speaker 1: do is apologize. People are so touchy, I can't even 261 00:12:21,120 --> 00:12:23,520 Speaker 1: leave the house. Well that's the essence of the Larry 262 00:12:23,600 --> 00:12:27,120 Speaker 1: character much though. But his acting was very, very different. 263 00:12:27,280 --> 00:12:29,840 Speaker 1: He looked like he was about to crack up every 264 00:12:30,040 --> 00:12:31,160 Speaker 1: single minute. 265 00:12:31,200 --> 00:12:32,600 Speaker 4: I think you have that in reverse. 266 00:12:32,920 --> 00:12:34,480 Speaker 3: Really, yes, I. 267 00:12:34,360 --> 00:12:36,880 Speaker 5: Think when he was doing that, having been there, I 268 00:12:36,960 --> 00:12:40,920 Speaker 5: think he was less apt to laugh as you know now, 269 00:12:40,960 --> 00:12:42,840 Speaker 5: which I know which is the great secret of Curb 270 00:12:42,880 --> 00:12:47,280 Speaker 5: Your Enthusiasm, which is you should really watch when it 271 00:12:47,360 --> 00:12:50,319 Speaker 5: cuts away from Larry, because generally it cuts away from 272 00:12:50,400 --> 00:12:54,360 Speaker 5: Larry right before he let Yeah, he just laughed on it. 273 00:12:54,480 --> 00:12:56,240 Speaker 3: But I don't mean that, I don't mean laughing. 274 00:12:56,720 --> 00:12:59,319 Speaker 1: I mean that in all of his scenes, he has 275 00:12:59,360 --> 00:13:02,160 Speaker 1: a little on his face in a way that now 276 00:13:02,200 --> 00:13:06,000 Speaker 1: he doesn't. Now he's more in the character in the scene. 277 00:13:06,080 --> 00:13:08,800 Speaker 5: What I feel the difference was back then he would 278 00:13:08,880 --> 00:13:13,160 Speaker 5: go from a smile to really grumpy, so that way 279 00:13:13,200 --> 00:13:16,480 Speaker 5: you noticed them both like he was, whereas now it's 280 00:13:16,520 --> 00:13:18,200 Speaker 5: sort of a combination of the two. 281 00:13:19,240 --> 00:13:32,440 Speaker 2: We'll be right back. Stay tuned, Okay, we're back. 282 00:13:33,480 --> 00:13:37,800 Speaker 5: The number one thing from watching the first special was 283 00:13:37,840 --> 00:13:41,480 Speaker 5: how good his acting was. I was so because when 284 00:13:41,480 --> 00:13:43,680 Speaker 5: we were doing it, I thought he was good. But 285 00:13:43,760 --> 00:13:46,800 Speaker 5: I look and I go, wow, now looking at it, 286 00:13:47,040 --> 00:13:47,920 Speaker 5: what a natural? 287 00:13:48,440 --> 00:13:50,920 Speaker 3: What I agree with that. I just think he's gotten 288 00:13:50,960 --> 00:13:51,760 Speaker 3: so much better. 289 00:13:52,120 --> 00:13:56,679 Speaker 5: Season two, season three, I say to him one day, boy, 290 00:13:57,600 --> 00:14:01,120 Speaker 5: your acting has grown so much. Oh good, And he 291 00:14:01,200 --> 00:14:02,280 Speaker 5: took that as an insult. 292 00:14:02,400 --> 00:14:06,360 Speaker 2: Well, I know, I know he really. 293 00:14:06,000 --> 00:14:08,720 Speaker 5: Took that as an insult, and I'm like, man, you're 294 00:14:08,800 --> 00:14:12,000 Speaker 5: bound to grow. He didn't understand that. He's like, wasn't 295 00:14:12,000 --> 00:14:13,760 Speaker 5: I good last season? Season before? 296 00:14:13,800 --> 00:14:15,839 Speaker 1: But also whenever I tell him his acting is, I'll 297 00:14:15,840 --> 00:14:17,040 Speaker 1: watch a season, I'll say, you're acting. 298 00:14:17,120 --> 00:14:19,120 Speaker 3: Was waited, But I don't consider myself acting. That's I'm 299 00:14:19,120 --> 00:14:21,200 Speaker 3: not acting. But he is, of course. 300 00:14:20,920 --> 00:14:23,320 Speaker 5: Well, by the way, it's a different style of acting. 301 00:14:23,360 --> 00:14:25,400 Speaker 5: It's a style of acting that you do and I 302 00:14:25,480 --> 00:14:25,720 Speaker 5: do it. 303 00:14:25,840 --> 00:14:27,000 Speaker 3: But which are acting? 304 00:14:27,160 --> 00:14:29,360 Speaker 5: We are completely acting, and like you said, I'm not 305 00:14:29,480 --> 00:14:33,800 Speaker 5: my character. But that being said, there's a naturalism that's 306 00:14:33,840 --> 00:14:36,640 Speaker 5: our approach to acting. I feel as an actor, I'm 307 00:14:36,680 --> 00:14:38,960 Speaker 5: only as good as the material I'm given. You'll give 308 00:14:39,000 --> 00:14:41,840 Speaker 5: me bad material. I'm gonna suck up the joint. You 309 00:14:41,920 --> 00:14:44,600 Speaker 5: give me good material, and hopefully I won't suck up 310 00:14:44,640 --> 00:14:47,600 Speaker 5: the joint. That's where I'm at as an actor. Where 311 00:14:47,680 --> 00:14:52,880 Speaker 5: is this anything that I do? And this naturalistic, very naturalism? 312 00:14:53,120 --> 00:14:54,920 Speaker 3: We're given such amazing things to do. 313 00:14:55,200 --> 00:14:57,560 Speaker 5: Can I just say something? Why don't you have a 314 00:14:57,600 --> 00:14:59,280 Speaker 5: spit thing in front of your microphone? 315 00:14:59,320 --> 00:15:02,400 Speaker 4: Like the shield? Now? Then I do. All I'm saying 316 00:15:02,440 --> 00:15:04,640 Speaker 4: is was the last time we did it? Was there? Probably? 317 00:15:04,640 --> 00:15:07,600 Speaker 4: Are you yeah? Or was I? Maybe my voice is. 318 00:15:07,920 --> 00:15:09,600 Speaker 3: So I want to get to I want to get 319 00:15:09,640 --> 00:15:11,000 Speaker 3: to that I. 320 00:15:11,000 --> 00:15:14,120 Speaker 5: Tell a suit story. I told the suit story last time. 321 00:15:14,680 --> 00:15:16,800 Speaker 5: No that I that I that I said that I 322 00:15:16,880 --> 00:15:18,640 Speaker 5: wanted my character to wear suits. 323 00:15:18,840 --> 00:15:21,440 Speaker 1: I don't recall that. Okay, So because I just want 324 00:15:21,440 --> 00:15:23,680 Speaker 1: to ask you about the character. So you made up 325 00:15:23,680 --> 00:15:27,600 Speaker 1: this character of his manager, who was even more clueless 326 00:15:27,600 --> 00:15:28,840 Speaker 1: in this episode. 327 00:15:29,760 --> 00:15:31,720 Speaker 3: Did you base this on somebody? 328 00:15:32,080 --> 00:15:35,120 Speaker 1: Yes and no, because let me just say, you can 329 00:15:35,160 --> 00:15:40,160 Speaker 1: say Garland, the person Jeff Garland is extremely air udite 330 00:15:40,200 --> 00:15:45,120 Speaker 1: and opinionated and you know, throw and thoughtful, throw and thoughtful. 331 00:15:45,360 --> 00:15:47,800 Speaker 3: But the character of Jeff Green is like a lunk. 332 00:15:48,600 --> 00:15:52,720 Speaker 5: Well overall, the consistency of his character is he would 333 00:15:52,800 --> 00:15:55,840 Speaker 5: do anything to make Larry happy for any agreed he 334 00:15:55,880 --> 00:15:58,320 Speaker 5: agre it's not even client. We're best friends. Yeah, but 335 00:15:58,560 --> 00:16:02,400 Speaker 5: you know, and so I just to agree. So basically, 336 00:16:02,880 --> 00:16:05,480 Speaker 5: there's a thing an emperor called exploring and heightening, where 337 00:16:05,640 --> 00:16:07,960 Speaker 5: someone says something to you and you send it back 338 00:16:08,000 --> 00:16:11,400 Speaker 5: to them at a more agreeable level and then it 339 00:16:11,520 --> 00:16:16,160 Speaker 5: keeps on going. Well, that's my character consistently. But I 340 00:16:16,160 --> 00:16:18,360 Speaker 5: don't do a lot of character work. But as I 341 00:16:18,440 --> 00:16:21,400 Speaker 5: was thinking about it, I go, my character should always 342 00:16:21,440 --> 00:16:24,200 Speaker 5: be in a suit. Yeah, in a suit. And I 343 00:16:24,240 --> 00:16:26,520 Speaker 5: told Larry Goes, we have a great idea. And by 344 00:16:26,520 --> 00:16:27,960 Speaker 5: the way, you'll get a lot of those, Larry, That's 345 00:16:27,960 --> 00:16:31,080 Speaker 5: how I do Larry, which he laughs at but it 346 00:16:31,120 --> 00:16:33,760 Speaker 5: really doesn't sound like him, but it does. It's like 347 00:16:33,800 --> 00:16:36,520 Speaker 5: a character of him. Anyhow, I went into the producer 348 00:16:36,960 --> 00:16:38,840 Speaker 5: and we didn't have a big budget, and I said, 349 00:16:39,480 --> 00:16:42,840 Speaker 5: you know, I think my character should be wearing a suit, 350 00:16:42,880 --> 00:16:45,000 Speaker 5: and all the time a suit and a tie. Takes 351 00:16:45,000 --> 00:16:47,160 Speaker 5: a beat and he goes, why you're saying that you 352 00:16:47,200 --> 00:16:50,680 Speaker 5: want free suits? I said, no, I can get myself 353 00:16:50,720 --> 00:16:53,240 Speaker 5: a suit. I just think that you're worrying. Yeah, look 354 00:16:53,280 --> 00:16:54,400 Speaker 5: if you want a free suit. 355 00:16:54,920 --> 00:16:55,160 Speaker 4: You know. 356 00:16:55,800 --> 00:16:58,160 Speaker 5: We went back and forth on that, and I just 357 00:16:58,200 --> 00:17:00,520 Speaker 5: said to him, I said, please get me a couple 358 00:17:00,520 --> 00:17:04,440 Speaker 5: of suits, and I left the room. Anyhow, the point 359 00:17:04,560 --> 00:17:09,720 Speaker 5: thing is, when I watched that pilot, I'm essentially wearing fabric. 360 00:17:10,440 --> 00:17:13,560 Speaker 5: There's no cut to the suit. They're the these are 361 00:17:13,680 --> 00:17:14,639 Speaker 5: ninety nine dollars. 362 00:17:14,840 --> 00:17:18,240 Speaker 1: But the suit, I think is an important character. Don't 363 00:17:18,320 --> 00:17:21,679 Speaker 1: because it separates you. He's the comedian in his you know, 364 00:17:21,840 --> 00:17:24,400 Speaker 1: casual clothes, and you're the businessman. 365 00:17:25,400 --> 00:17:27,000 Speaker 3: You know, you're the showbiz guy. 366 00:17:27,280 --> 00:17:29,960 Speaker 1: Right, Let's get to him doing his stand up, because 367 00:17:29,960 --> 00:17:33,000 Speaker 1: that was the greatest pleasure of this, and every single 368 00:17:33,080 --> 00:17:35,399 Speaker 1: bit of stand up that he did was something that 369 00:17:35,480 --> 00:17:37,760 Speaker 1: I had seen him do in the eighties on stage 370 00:17:37,760 --> 00:17:38,720 Speaker 1: at comic clubs. 371 00:17:39,000 --> 00:17:43,159 Speaker 4: Right, you know, the two form the theos favorite. 372 00:17:43,240 --> 00:17:46,080 Speaker 1: I love the post, but I love the Jonah Sulk. 373 00:17:46,400 --> 00:17:47,439 Speaker 1: I remember him. 374 00:17:47,359 --> 00:17:51,280 Speaker 7: Joining us my boy Jones, boy, it's Doe. But those 375 00:17:51,280 --> 00:17:52,560 Speaker 7: are classic Larry. 376 00:17:52,400 --> 00:17:53,560 Speaker 3: Classic Larry bits. 377 00:17:53,680 --> 00:17:57,200 Speaker 5: And that's why comedians love watching Larry. I mean, who 378 00:17:57,240 --> 00:18:01,160 Speaker 5: over thinks about answering machine in the Old West? Premise alone, 379 00:18:01,240 --> 00:18:03,120 Speaker 5: you should go. That's the best premise. 380 00:18:03,160 --> 00:18:06,240 Speaker 1: And the beauty of this entire special is you will 381 00:18:06,320 --> 00:18:09,600 Speaker 1: never see that again. No, and you haven't seen it, 382 00:18:09,720 --> 00:18:12,200 Speaker 1: he said, there's no tape of him, so we haven't 383 00:18:12,200 --> 00:18:12,800 Speaker 1: seen it before. 384 00:18:12,840 --> 00:18:14,800 Speaker 4: So that's the time capsule. 385 00:18:14,520 --> 00:18:16,840 Speaker 3: Exactly, very much him do the standard. 386 00:18:16,880 --> 00:18:18,320 Speaker 5: By the way, when I said I want to cut 387 00:18:18,359 --> 00:18:20,800 Speaker 5: fifteen minutes, the stand up will be the last thing. 388 00:18:20,640 --> 00:18:23,120 Speaker 3: Out of the last thing, last thing. What would you cut? 389 00:18:23,119 --> 00:18:24,480 Speaker 3: Would you cut the interviews? 390 00:18:24,880 --> 00:18:27,200 Speaker 5: You know what that's like going back and like if 391 00:18:27,240 --> 00:18:30,240 Speaker 5: I knew now you know, yes, of course, but they 392 00:18:30,320 --> 00:18:33,359 Speaker 5: served its purpose. And by the way, that thing, this 393 00:18:33,440 --> 00:18:36,720 Speaker 5: whole thing is a great introduction, but there are scenes 394 00:18:37,320 --> 00:18:41,040 Speaker 5: where nothing happens and it just goes on. It's not funny. 395 00:18:41,720 --> 00:18:44,359 Speaker 5: And I've already said to Larry, remember that scene, we 396 00:18:44,400 --> 00:18:45,159 Speaker 5: should have cut that. 397 00:18:45,320 --> 00:18:46,600 Speaker 4: He agrees with me. All the ones. 398 00:18:46,840 --> 00:18:49,240 Speaker 1: But this was the reason why I loved watching this, 399 00:18:49,359 --> 00:18:51,320 Speaker 1: even though it was flawed, right, It was. 400 00:18:51,240 --> 00:18:54,199 Speaker 3: Because this was the kernel more than the Curonel, more 401 00:18:54,280 --> 00:18:54,879 Speaker 3: than the Colonel. 402 00:18:55,200 --> 00:18:58,439 Speaker 1: And out of this came, you know, the brilliance of 403 00:18:58,480 --> 00:19:01,560 Speaker 1: what Kurb became as a series. And maybe you needed this, 404 00:19:01,800 --> 00:19:03,879 Speaker 1: maybe you didn't. 405 00:19:04,119 --> 00:19:07,600 Speaker 5: By the way, any pilot of any show in history, 406 00:19:08,000 --> 00:19:10,800 Speaker 5: the tone is going to be different from the pilot. 407 00:19:12,080 --> 00:19:14,880 Speaker 1: And if you every exercise for people, you could go 408 00:19:15,080 --> 00:19:18,160 Speaker 1: back and watch pilots, whether it's Mary Tyler Moore, any 409 00:19:18,200 --> 00:19:20,959 Speaker 1: of the classes. Pilots are completely different than what they 410 00:19:21,040 --> 00:19:21,800 Speaker 1: ended up being. 411 00:19:21,840 --> 00:19:24,600 Speaker 5: More often than that, they air the pilot as the 412 00:19:24,640 --> 00:19:27,919 Speaker 5: second or third episode because what they shot is better, 413 00:19:28,160 --> 00:19:29,679 Speaker 5: but they don't want to waste the money of not 414 00:19:29,760 --> 00:19:31,200 Speaker 5: airing it. Yeah that's true. 415 00:19:31,280 --> 00:19:31,440 Speaker 4: Oh. 416 00:19:31,440 --> 00:19:33,480 Speaker 3: By the way, you mentioned a caricature before. 417 00:19:34,240 --> 00:19:36,160 Speaker 1: I don't know that anything has ever made me laugh 418 00:19:36,200 --> 00:19:38,760 Speaker 1: so hard as that caricature of Troy. 419 00:19:38,960 --> 00:19:40,080 Speaker 4: Okay, can I say something? 420 00:19:40,080 --> 00:19:41,320 Speaker 3: The money ever? 421 00:19:41,760 --> 00:19:45,840 Speaker 5: I had that, Now the big one went to Gavin Polone, 422 00:19:45,880 --> 00:19:47,840 Speaker 5: the one that's on the stage, but the little mock 423 00:19:47,920 --> 00:19:50,159 Speaker 5: up set, Yeah, I had that and I don't know 424 00:19:50,200 --> 00:19:50,960 Speaker 5: where it was where. 425 00:19:50,760 --> 00:19:52,200 Speaker 3: It is w A few times. 426 00:19:52,800 --> 00:19:56,640 Speaker 5: No, actually I moved out of my home. Yeah, and 427 00:19:56,720 --> 00:19:59,240 Speaker 5: I hope it's in the garage. So my wife of 428 00:19:59,320 --> 00:20:01,400 Speaker 5: the girl funny, why have that? 429 00:20:01,640 --> 00:20:05,600 Speaker 3: It is so perfect for him to be disgusted. 430 00:20:04,920 --> 00:20:09,240 Speaker 5: By completely, But was great acting wise in that episode 431 00:20:09,320 --> 00:20:12,960 Speaker 5: was the executives, the HBO executives. 432 00:20:12,520 --> 00:20:15,360 Speaker 4: Their acceptance of Larry going. 433 00:20:15,400 --> 00:20:18,240 Speaker 5: No, no, no, never do that, No, no no. 434 00:20:18,600 --> 00:20:21,480 Speaker 3: And then they look set the set, the whole set they. 435 00:20:21,400 --> 00:20:25,200 Speaker 1: Bring out on the Seinfeld set, and I love the 436 00:20:25,400 --> 00:20:30,080 Speaker 1: enthusiasm of the set designer and showing it, yes Susy 437 00:20:30,160 --> 00:20:32,920 Speaker 1: not Kimura, and showing it and thinking it's so fantastic, 438 00:20:33,280 --> 00:20:35,399 Speaker 1: and then and then it's all. It's all there, The 439 00:20:35,440 --> 00:20:37,760 Speaker 1: whole Larry person is completely there. 440 00:20:37,840 --> 00:20:41,440 Speaker 5: You think of a funnier reply when you're the guy 441 00:20:41,440 --> 00:20:45,600 Speaker 5: who created Seinfeld and you mentioned to someone because he's 442 00:20:45,600 --> 00:20:49,720 Speaker 5: making a recommendation phone call for a guy who used 443 00:20:49,720 --> 00:20:52,720 Speaker 5: to be the writer's assistant on Seinfeld, and the executive 444 00:20:52,760 --> 00:20:57,080 Speaker 5: he calls, he says, Larry David, you know I created Seinfeld. 445 00:20:57,480 --> 00:21:01,160 Speaker 5: And the guy responds, never watched it. Not a fan 446 00:21:01,960 --> 00:21:04,119 Speaker 5: that's from Larry's brain right there. I mean that like, 447 00:21:04,280 --> 00:21:06,240 Speaker 5: never watched it none. First of all, how can you 448 00:21:06,320 --> 00:21:06,800 Speaker 5: not know. 449 00:21:06,800 --> 00:21:07,640 Speaker 3: That happened to him? 450 00:21:08,000 --> 00:21:08,399 Speaker 4: Oh it did? 451 00:21:08,600 --> 00:21:11,440 Speaker 5: Oh. Oh, by the way, I want to say, through 452 00:21:11,480 --> 00:21:15,320 Speaker 5: the history of the show, at least seventy five percent, 453 00:21:15,680 --> 00:21:17,720 Speaker 5: if not more, of things these things happen. 454 00:21:17,880 --> 00:21:22,040 Speaker 1: Interestingly in the show when they're interviewing Jason Alexander, and 455 00:21:22,119 --> 00:21:24,600 Speaker 1: Jason tells that story that he would read the scripts 456 00:21:24,600 --> 00:21:27,480 Speaker 1: of Seinfeldt and he would say, this is ridiculous. Nobody 457 00:21:27,480 --> 00:21:29,399 Speaker 1: ever behaved that way, And Larry would say, it happened 458 00:21:29,400 --> 00:21:31,840 Speaker 1: to me. I behave that way and it was true. 459 00:21:32,000 --> 00:21:34,199 Speaker 4: And by the way, that was the turning point of 460 00:21:34,240 --> 00:21:35,000 Speaker 4: that character, that. 461 00:21:35,040 --> 00:21:38,680 Speaker 3: Character where he just new to base George on Larry. 462 00:21:39,119 --> 00:21:41,879 Speaker 5: I talked about the audition process last time, right with 463 00:21:42,000 --> 00:21:43,040 Speaker 5: Cheryl auditions. 464 00:21:43,160 --> 00:21:45,359 Speaker 1: Yes, okay, we did, and when we have Cheryl on, 465 00:21:45,560 --> 00:21:47,840 Speaker 1: which we will, I want Cheryl to talk about that 466 00:21:47,920 --> 00:21:48,479 Speaker 1: as well. 467 00:21:48,800 --> 00:21:49,080 Speaker 3: Oh. 468 00:21:49,119 --> 00:21:51,600 Speaker 1: Speaking of Cheryl, you know one of my pet peeves, 469 00:21:51,600 --> 00:21:53,159 Speaker 1: and I know that you're going to agree with me, 470 00:21:53,600 --> 00:21:56,640 Speaker 1: is when Cheryl comes up to Larry after his performance 471 00:21:57,280 --> 00:22:00,200 Speaker 1: and immediately starts telling him what doesn't work. 472 00:22:00,440 --> 00:22:00,720 Speaker 4: Okay. 473 00:22:01,160 --> 00:22:03,879 Speaker 1: That is as a stand up comic, when you just 474 00:22:04,000 --> 00:22:07,679 Speaker 1: come off stage and your partner or your manager whoever 475 00:22:07,920 --> 00:22:10,760 Speaker 1: comes over to you and start immediately starts saying, oh this, 476 00:22:11,200 --> 00:22:12,480 Speaker 1: you want to fucking kill them? 477 00:22:12,560 --> 00:22:14,160 Speaker 4: Okay, so let's go there. 478 00:22:14,359 --> 00:22:17,160 Speaker 5: Yeah, yesterday it was my two year anniversary with Sari. 479 00:22:17,440 --> 00:22:20,400 Speaker 4: That's my girlfriend. Yeah, Sari showed. 480 00:22:20,119 --> 00:22:22,800 Speaker 5: Up at my gig. She's never done that before. I 481 00:22:22,840 --> 00:22:25,480 Speaker 5: was pleasantly surprised, and I was happy she was there. 482 00:22:26,000 --> 00:22:28,639 Speaker 5: But after I was done, she gave me her notes, 483 00:22:29,600 --> 00:22:32,240 Speaker 5: and now she gave me the notes. They it didn't 484 00:22:32,240 --> 00:22:35,320 Speaker 5: even start with wow, that was a great set right 485 00:22:35,400 --> 00:22:39,800 Speaker 5: into the notes. And the truth is as comedians, we 486 00:22:39,880 --> 00:22:42,720 Speaker 5: don't bring our significant others to shows. Like she'll say, 487 00:22:42,720 --> 00:22:45,080 Speaker 5: can I go to the comedy store with you? I'm like, no, 488 00:22:44,440 --> 00:22:48,000 Speaker 5: no one brings their girlfriend's wife's husband's boyfriends. 489 00:22:48,280 --> 00:22:49,560 Speaker 3: Let's need them to drive. 490 00:22:50,680 --> 00:22:50,920 Speaker 4: Yes. 491 00:22:51,240 --> 00:22:53,600 Speaker 5: But by the way, the only thing that's appropriate that 492 00:22:53,640 --> 00:22:58,360 Speaker 5: you see pretty often is children, adult children, someone's son 493 00:22:58,480 --> 00:23:02,000 Speaker 5: or daughter. They you see them at clubs. You never 494 00:23:02,119 --> 00:23:07,160 Speaker 5: see spouses, spouses, any of that, because that's exactly what happens. 495 00:23:07,359 --> 00:23:10,000 Speaker 5: And other comedians are also on edge that we give 496 00:23:10,040 --> 00:23:11,160 Speaker 5: you tomorrow. 497 00:23:11,840 --> 00:23:15,080 Speaker 1: I have trained my husband, who's with me sometimes because 498 00:23:15,119 --> 00:23:18,600 Speaker 1: he drives, not to say a word negative to me 499 00:23:18,840 --> 00:23:22,159 Speaker 1: only positive when I first come off stay, you're so vulnerable, 500 00:23:22,400 --> 00:23:23,720 Speaker 1: you're so rang raw. 501 00:23:24,160 --> 00:23:27,920 Speaker 5: I remember a friend of mine who I was performing with, 502 00:23:28,440 --> 00:23:32,440 Speaker 5: one of her best friends, came backstage and didn't say 503 00:23:32,480 --> 00:23:36,560 Speaker 5: anything to me about my show, and I was like, now, 504 00:23:36,600 --> 00:23:38,440 Speaker 5: by the way, all you got to do is look, 505 00:23:38,440 --> 00:23:40,720 Speaker 5: even if you fucking hated it, just look at somebody. 506 00:23:40,840 --> 00:23:44,040 Speaker 3: Go great show, great show, funny, Yeah, done over. 507 00:23:44,359 --> 00:23:47,920 Speaker 4: You lied? Who gives a shit? Instead you don't say anything. 508 00:23:49,040 --> 00:23:52,359 Speaker 5: By the way, a few years later, I became unbelievably 509 00:23:52,359 --> 00:23:53,240 Speaker 5: close to that woman. 510 00:23:53,920 --> 00:23:56,280 Speaker 4: I'm not in dater, but she was a friend of mine. 511 00:23:56,359 --> 00:23:58,200 Speaker 3: Well, well, no, they don't know. 512 00:23:58,760 --> 00:24:01,960 Speaker 1: They don't know, which is one of the things actually 513 00:24:02,359 --> 00:24:05,760 Speaker 1: why I think so much of this show works because 514 00:24:05,760 --> 00:24:10,080 Speaker 1: we're all stand ups and we have an unsaid understanding 515 00:24:10,240 --> 00:24:12,880 Speaker 1: of each other that nobody else really understands. 516 00:24:13,080 --> 00:24:18,440 Speaker 5: It's amazing that Cheryl fits into that. Yeah, because you me, JB, 517 00:24:19,400 --> 00:24:23,120 Speaker 5: Richard Lewis, and the two people that aren't Ted Dance 518 00:24:23,200 --> 00:24:23,840 Speaker 5: and then Cheryl. 519 00:24:23,920 --> 00:24:26,919 Speaker 3: Yeah, of course I didn't exist in the pilot. No, 520 00:24:27,760 --> 00:24:28,879 Speaker 3: but you were married. 521 00:24:29,000 --> 00:24:31,280 Speaker 4: By the way, ironically, though I thought of you a 522 00:24:31,320 --> 00:24:32,119 Speaker 4: lot more from me. 523 00:24:32,640 --> 00:24:36,520 Speaker 1: No, go ahead, but you were married, cheating on your wife. 524 00:24:36,920 --> 00:24:40,240 Speaker 5: So funny you say that. It's like we didn't see 525 00:24:40,240 --> 00:24:44,040 Speaker 5: my wife. We didn't see anything. And by the way 526 00:24:44,320 --> 00:24:48,399 Speaker 5: that I came up with, like I you know, I 527 00:24:48,440 --> 00:24:52,159 Speaker 5: told Larry my idea about teating, no about the idea 528 00:24:52,160 --> 00:24:55,199 Speaker 5: about the show, and I told a genius, and the 529 00:24:55,280 --> 00:24:58,840 Speaker 5: genius created something that I thank him for every day. 530 00:24:59,480 --> 00:25:01,320 Speaker 5: But the one, one thing in this hour thing that 531 00:25:01,359 --> 00:25:04,000 Speaker 5: I came up with was the cheating aspect of my 532 00:25:04,160 --> 00:25:07,440 Speaker 5: character and the whole premise of where he walks through 533 00:25:07,440 --> 00:25:11,199 Speaker 5: the park, where's my girlfriend with the woman I'm cheating with? 534 00:25:11,320 --> 00:25:12,960 Speaker 4: Yes, and even in the bar. 535 00:25:12,920 --> 00:25:17,040 Speaker 5: When I get caught, like now, he laughs at me 536 00:25:17,200 --> 00:25:21,720 Speaker 5: cheating you really, you know, you really have a marble marbles. 537 00:25:22,160 --> 00:25:25,840 Speaker 5: But then when I pulled it off, he was polite 538 00:25:26,359 --> 00:25:27,960 Speaker 5: and you can see disappointed. 539 00:25:28,440 --> 00:25:33,080 Speaker 1: And that's cheating and confused, very confused by it. The 540 00:25:33,160 --> 00:25:35,439 Speaker 1: scene with him walking in the park with Becky and 541 00:25:35,480 --> 00:25:36,080 Speaker 1: getting caught. 542 00:25:36,119 --> 00:25:39,520 Speaker 4: My wife doesn't know anything about this. I'll tell you 543 00:25:39,560 --> 00:25:40,560 Speaker 4: more later. I don't want to. 544 00:25:40,600 --> 00:25:40,800 Speaker 1: You know. 545 00:25:41,000 --> 00:25:45,840 Speaker 5: Becky Thayer, by the way, who I just thought, and 546 00:25:45,840 --> 00:25:49,520 Speaker 5: Sidney Campania, those are two Chicago improvisers. Sydney Campania are 547 00:25:49,640 --> 00:25:50,640 Speaker 5: going through the park. 548 00:25:50,840 --> 00:25:55,440 Speaker 1: And Larry Cheryl's friend yes, and Larry explaining over, explaining 549 00:25:55,800 --> 00:26:00,720 Speaker 1: over it is hilarious. Is the other thing that hilarious 550 00:26:00,960 --> 00:26:03,680 Speaker 1: was Larry's clothing style, which is so different than it 551 00:26:03,840 --> 00:26:04,159 Speaker 1: is now. 552 00:26:04,560 --> 00:26:07,560 Speaker 3: He was wearing these big, bulky jackets on stage and. 553 00:26:07,760 --> 00:26:09,960 Speaker 5: I say, there was a bulkiness to all of our 554 00:26:10,040 --> 00:26:13,920 Speaker 5: wardrobe because it was cheaper. If my suit were ninety 555 00:26:14,000 --> 00:26:16,480 Speaker 5: nine dollars, his were one hundred and ninety nine. 556 00:26:16,880 --> 00:26:18,119 Speaker 4: You know that was the difference. 557 00:26:18,200 --> 00:26:31,160 Speaker 2: We'll be right back, stay tuned, and we're back. 558 00:26:32,480 --> 00:26:34,840 Speaker 1: Another thing I want to bring up, because it's mentioned 559 00:26:34,920 --> 00:26:39,360 Speaker 1: several times in the episode, is he had children. 560 00:26:39,560 --> 00:26:43,919 Speaker 3: He didn't see his the storyline children. 561 00:26:44,119 --> 00:26:46,880 Speaker 1: He spoke about his children and was that a conscious 562 00:26:47,440 --> 00:26:49,240 Speaker 1: or was it just he has children in real life? 563 00:26:49,240 --> 00:26:51,480 Speaker 1: So we had children on the show because once we 564 00:26:51,600 --> 00:26:53,840 Speaker 1: started the series, no children, that was. 565 00:26:53,880 --> 00:26:57,440 Speaker 5: Not even a conversation because we didn't know there was 566 00:26:57,520 --> 00:26:59,879 Speaker 5: something that was going to be strange about him. To 567 00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:03,080 Speaker 5: my children, it's like children. And by the way, he 568 00:27:03,240 --> 00:27:06,760 Speaker 5: only had children to say on my children's life, where 569 00:27:06,760 --> 00:27:09,159 Speaker 5: are my children? Yeah, because he thought of that premise 570 00:27:09,400 --> 00:27:12,800 Speaker 5: he has children. Well, first thing that was gone when 571 00:27:12,840 --> 00:27:13,800 Speaker 5: the pilot, when we were. 572 00:27:14,280 --> 00:27:17,119 Speaker 4: Shooting the Free no children, no children, no children, no 573 00:27:17,400 --> 00:27:20,280 Speaker 4: Jeff and Cheryl fighting. 574 00:27:20,160 --> 00:27:23,359 Speaker 3: Each other, and no children, no children. Those were two majors. 575 00:27:23,400 --> 00:27:24,679 Speaker 4: And we also know no hugs. 576 00:27:25,040 --> 00:27:27,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, those are the two major changes that I noticed. 577 00:27:27,080 --> 00:27:29,639 Speaker 1: That you and Cheryl were not, you know, enemies, and 578 00:27:29,760 --> 00:27:32,720 Speaker 1: that there was no children. And then it was pretty 579 00:27:32,800 --> 00:27:36,959 Speaker 1: much besides cutting out all the doc style, the Colonel 580 00:27:37,040 --> 00:27:38,359 Speaker 1: was there was already there. 581 00:27:38,840 --> 00:27:42,280 Speaker 5: The clay had started to be molded, right and by 582 00:27:42,359 --> 00:27:44,000 Speaker 5: by the way, I don't know why that's so clever, 583 00:27:44,359 --> 00:27:46,720 Speaker 5: but the clay had started to be molded, and then 584 00:27:46,840 --> 00:27:48,720 Speaker 5: first season molded even more. 585 00:27:49,040 --> 00:27:49,760 Speaker 4: Even now we. 586 00:27:49,920 --> 00:27:52,159 Speaker 1: Chip off this and do this and do and the 587 00:27:52,240 --> 00:27:55,000 Speaker 1: thing you mentioned before about the kid who wanted the recommendation, 588 00:27:55,480 --> 00:27:59,160 Speaker 1: that was the classic curb callback that started the episode 589 00:27:59,200 --> 00:28:01,680 Speaker 1: in the very beginning, right, the kid who wants Larry 590 00:28:01,720 --> 00:28:03,160 Speaker 1: to recommend him for a writing job. 591 00:28:03,400 --> 00:28:05,399 Speaker 3: And it was the almost the last scene, how it 592 00:28:05,560 --> 00:28:06,200 Speaker 3: just completed. 593 00:28:06,960 --> 00:28:10,800 Speaker 5: Call it classic curb. I would call it Larry's influences 594 00:28:11,520 --> 00:28:14,680 Speaker 5: and one of his main influences. And I pointed this 595 00:28:14,760 --> 00:28:18,400 Speaker 5: out to him. He's like, yeah, yeah, Yeahnat hiken net 596 00:28:18,480 --> 00:28:21,920 Speaker 5: hiking created Bill. Yeah, Ned Hiking was a writer who 597 00:28:22,000 --> 00:28:25,680 Speaker 5: created the show Sergeant Bill Coo or what was the 598 00:28:25,760 --> 00:28:27,600 Speaker 5: other title? You something about you? 599 00:28:27,720 --> 00:28:29,240 Speaker 4: You never know? 600 00:28:29,320 --> 00:28:32,960 Speaker 5: You'll never get rich was the other title? Fifty four 601 00:28:33,000 --> 00:28:37,720 Speaker 5: Where are You? And those shows the scripts like Curb 602 00:28:38,000 --> 00:28:42,000 Speaker 5: and No shows in between. It's like you tap a 603 00:28:42,120 --> 00:28:44,280 Speaker 5: domino like you'd see on the Tonight Show, and the 604 00:28:44,400 --> 00:28:47,520 Speaker 5: dominoes would go in different directions and then they would 605 00:28:47,640 --> 00:28:49,880 Speaker 5: end up at this place that you didn't even. 606 00:28:49,800 --> 00:28:52,200 Speaker 4: Know it was going to end up. That's Curb. 607 00:28:52,440 --> 00:28:52,640 Speaker 3: Yeah. 608 00:28:52,800 --> 00:28:56,240 Speaker 5: Every week it starts somewhere you don't know where it's going, 609 00:28:56,640 --> 00:28:59,120 Speaker 5: and they'll be closure but not what you're expecting. 610 00:28:59,320 --> 00:29:02,560 Speaker 1: Also, he did that in this pilot in the special 611 00:29:02,840 --> 00:29:05,520 Speaker 1: with the guy with the Guy, But what he ended 612 00:29:05,600 --> 00:29:07,640 Speaker 1: up doing in the series is more than one of 613 00:29:07,720 --> 00:29:09,959 Speaker 1: those several per episodes. 614 00:29:10,000 --> 00:29:11,840 Speaker 5: Well you would just we had no idea we're going 615 00:29:11,920 --> 00:29:14,920 Speaker 5: to do more. No I if I thought to myself, 616 00:29:15,560 --> 00:29:18,360 Speaker 5: I knew it was great to do for my career. 617 00:29:18,960 --> 00:29:20,800 Speaker 5: The best thing in the world is when you can 618 00:29:20,920 --> 00:29:26,080 Speaker 5: do things creatively that really help you in whatever ways. 619 00:29:26,440 --> 00:29:28,960 Speaker 5: But the bottom line for me is always is it 620 00:29:29,080 --> 00:29:31,840 Speaker 5: creative and interesting, not how much money I'm but you. 621 00:29:31,840 --> 00:29:35,280 Speaker 1: Still didn't answer the question, at what point in shooting 622 00:29:35,400 --> 00:29:38,760 Speaker 1: this did you know that there was a series coming 623 00:29:38,960 --> 00:29:39,520 Speaker 1: or did you not? 624 00:29:40,080 --> 00:29:40,800 Speaker 4: At no point? 625 00:29:41,000 --> 00:29:43,360 Speaker 3: At no point so when you finished this special. 626 00:29:43,680 --> 00:29:49,080 Speaker 7: Still it was not until a few months later before 627 00:29:49,120 --> 00:29:50,680 Speaker 7: it aired, before. 628 00:29:50,400 --> 00:29:54,760 Speaker 5: It aired, where Larry said, I'm gonna go talk to 629 00:29:54,920 --> 00:29:58,280 Speaker 5: HBO about doing this as a series. But there was 630 00:29:58,320 --> 00:30:02,080 Speaker 5: our Emmanuel, my helf and Larry on the first pitch, 631 00:30:02,760 --> 00:30:06,000 Speaker 5: second pitch was just Larry. Ari may have may have 632 00:30:06,120 --> 00:30:08,120 Speaker 5: been there, but I didn't go. There was no need 633 00:30:08,200 --> 00:30:08,640 Speaker 5: for me to go. 634 00:30:08,920 --> 00:30:10,680 Speaker 3: Ari was his agent agent. 635 00:30:10,840 --> 00:30:13,600 Speaker 1: Yes, Michael Patrick King, by the way, in this episode, 636 00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:15,640 Speaker 1: and tell people who he is. 637 00:30:15,760 --> 00:30:18,800 Speaker 3: Michael Patrick King. His show ran Sex and the City. 638 00:30:19,640 --> 00:30:22,280 Speaker 5: Wait, I love you just said tell people who Michael 639 00:30:22,320 --> 00:30:24,480 Speaker 5: Patrick King is, and then you go on to tell people, 640 00:30:25,240 --> 00:30:27,960 Speaker 5: but Michael Patrick King all that. I've known Michael Patrick 641 00:30:28,040 --> 00:30:30,800 Speaker 5: King since I was twenty. He had a comedy team 642 00:30:30,920 --> 00:30:33,800 Speaker 5: King and Men Day, you remember back then. So I 643 00:30:34,680 --> 00:30:37,280 Speaker 5: met him when I was twenty years old, and I've 644 00:30:37,360 --> 00:30:40,640 Speaker 5: known him and developed the friendship. He's one of Marla's 645 00:30:40,760 --> 00:30:42,520 Speaker 5: that's my wife, of your best. 646 00:30:42,320 --> 00:30:43,200 Speaker 3: Best friends I know. 647 00:30:43,440 --> 00:30:50,040 Speaker 1: And so he played Patrick the HBO. Yes, and he 648 00:30:50,720 --> 00:30:53,200 Speaker 1: was the showrunner for all those years for Sex and 649 00:30:53,280 --> 00:30:56,440 Speaker 1: the City and now show means producer writer, producer. 650 00:30:56,040 --> 00:30:58,160 Speaker 3: Writer and what is it called it now this? Yeah? 651 00:30:58,360 --> 00:30:59,760 Speaker 4: He Alisa Kudro. 652 00:31:00,640 --> 00:31:03,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, the comeback, which comeback was awesome. But I thought 653 00:31:03,880 --> 00:31:06,000 Speaker 1: he was amazing in this episode. 654 00:31:06,600 --> 00:31:07,600 Speaker 3: He was just brilliant. 655 00:31:07,760 --> 00:31:13,200 Speaker 5: The idea that he tells us in the limo this gossip, 656 00:31:13,360 --> 00:31:17,280 Speaker 5: and then he mentions mal that she fucked two guys 657 00:31:17,360 --> 00:31:20,800 Speaker 5: to death, which is absurdness. And then he starts explaining 658 00:31:20,840 --> 00:31:22,959 Speaker 5: with a big grin on his face, well that let 659 00:31:23,240 --> 00:31:27,120 Speaker 5: Larry and I know, don't trust this guy. Don't trust 660 00:31:27,160 --> 00:31:27,480 Speaker 5: this guy. 661 00:31:27,800 --> 00:31:30,840 Speaker 3: And then to me, that was not scripted, correct, I 662 00:31:30,920 --> 00:31:32,800 Speaker 3: mean that that was all Michael Oh. 663 00:31:32,800 --> 00:31:34,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah. 664 00:31:35,600 --> 00:31:37,240 Speaker 3: When I say scripted, I mean outlined. 665 00:31:37,720 --> 00:31:40,400 Speaker 5: No, so much of it wasn't outlined. That may have 666 00:31:40,480 --> 00:31:43,239 Speaker 5: been my suggestion to say that Malay Shannon fucked two 667 00:31:43,280 --> 00:31:43,920 Speaker 5: guys to death. 668 00:31:44,360 --> 00:31:47,240 Speaker 3: Either way, the joy that he felt and telling. 669 00:31:49,640 --> 00:31:51,440 Speaker 4: He was such a charismatic performer. 670 00:31:51,520 --> 00:31:55,480 Speaker 1: It's unfortunate that he just writes doesn't because that was 671 00:31:55,560 --> 00:31:56,680 Speaker 1: the fun of this is see. 672 00:31:56,960 --> 00:31:58,960 Speaker 3: You know, there was so many comedians that we came 673 00:31:59,080 --> 00:31:59,280 Speaker 3: up with. 674 00:31:59,440 --> 00:32:02,880 Speaker 1: Alan Hayes and Mike Reynolds no longer, but just seeing 675 00:32:02,960 --> 00:32:06,400 Speaker 1: all of these people was very, very going down memory 676 00:32:06,480 --> 00:32:07,040 Speaker 1: lane for me. 677 00:32:07,560 --> 00:32:11,760 Speaker 5: By the way, Michael Patrick King makes what I think 678 00:32:11,920 --> 00:32:16,080 Speaker 5: is the best scene of the pilot special by far. Yes, 679 00:32:16,280 --> 00:32:18,960 Speaker 5: Larry David comes down and goes over the bill and 680 00:32:19,080 --> 00:32:22,960 Speaker 5: he realizes that it's all porn charges and I get 681 00:32:23,120 --> 00:32:23,640 Speaker 5: very upset. 682 00:32:23,680 --> 00:32:24,760 Speaker 4: I go, let me see this. 683 00:32:25,160 --> 00:32:27,720 Speaker 5: You're not paying for this, and I kept saying HBO 684 00:32:27,920 --> 00:32:30,760 Speaker 5: pays for the porn and that I thought that'll be 685 00:32:30,800 --> 00:32:33,440 Speaker 5: a catchphrase and not in the moment, but later on 686 00:32:33,560 --> 00:32:35,640 Speaker 5: when we cut it, I went wow, and I kept 687 00:32:35,680 --> 00:32:38,560 Speaker 5: saying it. And then Michael Patrick come comes over, gouse 688 00:32:38,600 --> 00:32:41,320 Speaker 5: what and I go, doesn't HBO pay for the porn? 689 00:32:41,560 --> 00:32:42,200 Speaker 4: Pay for the porn? 690 00:32:42,320 --> 00:32:44,720 Speaker 5: And all he does goes, oh, HBO pays for the 691 00:32:44,800 --> 00:32:47,680 Speaker 5: porn because you can see him just he's gonna tell 692 00:32:47,760 --> 00:32:49,920 Speaker 5: people that Larry David watches a lot. 693 00:32:49,800 --> 00:32:52,600 Speaker 7: Of porns because he's just the best scene I look 694 00:32:52,680 --> 00:32:57,720 Speaker 7: at now, and it truly was a classic curb scene. 695 00:32:57,520 --> 00:32:58,240 Speaker 3: Totally classic. 696 00:32:58,360 --> 00:33:01,840 Speaker 1: And people mention that you mentioned that that episode, and 697 00:33:01,960 --> 00:33:06,000 Speaker 1: people say, HBO paste, and I think that that was 698 00:33:06,120 --> 00:33:09,880 Speaker 1: also for your character not to be psychoanalytic, but that 699 00:33:10,120 --> 00:33:12,200 Speaker 1: was one of the keys to your by the way 700 00:33:12,520 --> 00:33:15,920 Speaker 1: you protect client at all. 701 00:33:16,520 --> 00:33:18,280 Speaker 5: By the way, if we were doing that scene now, 702 00:33:18,520 --> 00:33:21,200 Speaker 5: it wouldn't be very different. And by the way, to me, 703 00:33:21,240 --> 00:33:24,000 Speaker 5: the funniest thing and the scene is at the end 704 00:33:24,080 --> 00:33:26,120 Speaker 5: of the scene the button is Larry looking at me 705 00:33:26,160 --> 00:33:29,360 Speaker 5: and going shut the fuck up. And to me, that's 706 00:33:29,400 --> 00:33:32,560 Speaker 5: the hardest I laughed. That's the hardest I laughed. And 707 00:33:32,720 --> 00:33:35,160 Speaker 5: that's all it takes sometime, is that little shut the 708 00:33:35,240 --> 00:33:38,320 Speaker 5: fuck up that Larry David says, and the whole thing. 709 00:33:38,600 --> 00:33:39,640 Speaker 1: And by the way, do you know, do you know 710 00:33:39,720 --> 00:33:41,840 Speaker 1: the funniest thing One of the funniest things that struck 711 00:33:41,920 --> 00:33:43,959 Speaker 1: me on that was you saying, why do you waste? 712 00:33:44,640 --> 00:33:46,800 Speaker 3: Why do you waste? That struck Oh. 713 00:33:46,800 --> 00:33:49,400 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, why do you waste? If it is funny. 714 00:33:49,520 --> 00:33:52,120 Speaker 3: Because that's it's such a thing of our parents, you 715 00:33:52,240 --> 00:33:54,720 Speaker 3: know why you Joe, you know. 716 00:33:54,840 --> 00:33:55,640 Speaker 4: The big wasting. 717 00:33:55,920 --> 00:33:57,800 Speaker 5: But I wanted to say something you asked me earlier, 718 00:33:57,840 --> 00:34:00,320 Speaker 5: and I realized I didn't address how did I come 719 00:34:00,400 --> 00:34:01,120 Speaker 5: up with a character? 720 00:34:01,480 --> 00:34:04,040 Speaker 4: I didn't. I didn't come up with a character. I 721 00:34:04,160 --> 00:34:04,560 Speaker 4: just did it. 722 00:34:04,720 --> 00:34:05,280 Speaker 3: You just did it. 723 00:34:05,440 --> 00:34:07,880 Speaker 5: When I say, outside of the suits, there was no 724 00:34:08,200 --> 00:34:12,840 Speaker 5: thought process put into that character at all. Zero, not 725 00:34:13,000 --> 00:34:15,239 Speaker 5: even that one out of a hund you know zero. 726 00:34:15,400 --> 00:34:17,960 Speaker 1: I'll talk about it next episode, but I pretty much 727 00:34:17,960 --> 00:34:20,080 Speaker 1: am the same. I came up with how I wanted 728 00:34:20,120 --> 00:34:22,800 Speaker 1: her to dress, and that was it. The rest was 729 00:34:22,960 --> 00:34:25,200 Speaker 1: just it's well not but I want to say. 730 00:34:25,440 --> 00:34:28,080 Speaker 5: Yes because I have a thought on that. But yeah, 731 00:34:28,200 --> 00:34:30,640 Speaker 5: so I never thought of anything. It just became. And 732 00:34:30,760 --> 00:34:33,520 Speaker 5: then as I did it the first season, like maybe 733 00:34:33,560 --> 00:34:36,279 Speaker 5: towards the end of the season, I went, oh, I 734 00:34:36,440 --> 00:34:38,680 Speaker 5: know who this reminds me of. But it was organic. 735 00:34:39,080 --> 00:34:41,840 Speaker 4: And I don't want to say yeah, but it's a 736 00:34:42,080 --> 00:34:46,239 Speaker 4: person and a manager and an agent all mixed into 737 00:34:46,239 --> 00:34:49,120 Speaker 4: the list because because you'll come up with it, because 738 00:34:49,800 --> 00:34:53,120 Speaker 4: my experiences with them certainly colored my character. 739 00:34:53,320 --> 00:34:54,640 Speaker 3: But I know that I have a question. 740 00:34:54,760 --> 00:34:58,200 Speaker 1: When you shot at Caroline's in New York, had you 741 00:34:58,320 --> 00:35:00,800 Speaker 1: already had you shot the stand up in LA already? 742 00:35:01,320 --> 00:35:04,960 Speaker 3: They told you we shot in order in order, Okay, 743 00:35:05,000 --> 00:35:06,440 Speaker 3: So if we went to New York to. 744 00:35:06,480 --> 00:35:10,000 Speaker 4: Shoot something and see La, I could see us flying. 745 00:35:09,800 --> 00:35:12,840 Speaker 1: Across the I'm saying that is because I just noticed 746 00:35:12,880 --> 00:35:16,760 Speaker 1: as a performer, how and I know that Larry hadn't 747 00:35:16,800 --> 00:35:19,680 Speaker 1: performed in years, and I noticed by the time he 748 00:35:19,760 --> 00:35:22,120 Speaker 1: got to New York how much more comfortable he was 749 00:35:22,200 --> 00:35:23,120 Speaker 1: on stage, very much. 750 00:35:23,200 --> 00:35:24,840 Speaker 3: It was really noticeable to me. 751 00:35:25,280 --> 00:35:28,000 Speaker 5: And by the way, the show, as I mentioned last, 752 00:35:28,200 --> 00:35:32,480 Speaker 5: was based on my time helping develop John Stewart's on 753 00:35:32,600 --> 00:35:36,320 Speaker 5: Levin Yes and Dennis Larry's Lock and Load. So what 754 00:35:36,520 --> 00:35:40,160 Speaker 5: I did with them this is actually embarrassing yet funny. 755 00:35:40,680 --> 00:35:43,120 Speaker 5: What I did with John Stewart and what I did 756 00:35:43,160 --> 00:35:45,239 Speaker 5: with Dennis Larry. I had a different approach with both. 757 00:35:45,800 --> 00:35:48,880 Speaker 4: John. I kind of had to lead him to a way. 758 00:35:48,760 --> 00:35:51,919 Speaker 5: Of more performance because he was such a great writer, 759 00:35:52,360 --> 00:35:55,080 Speaker 5: to just how to fill a room, and that's what 760 00:35:55,160 --> 00:35:57,720 Speaker 5: we worked on and worked on with Dennis. 761 00:35:57,440 --> 00:35:59,600 Speaker 3: Who was much more of a performer, much more of 762 00:35:59,600 --> 00:36:00,480 Speaker 3: a and. 763 00:36:00,560 --> 00:36:02,600 Speaker 5: I wanted him to get to the real person that 764 00:36:02,760 --> 00:36:06,040 Speaker 5: I know. That's what I wanted, you know, the stories, 765 00:36:06,040 --> 00:36:10,160 Speaker 5: you just let people know the real not the Yeah. 766 00:36:10,719 --> 00:36:14,600 Speaker 5: So we were filming this special, which I thought there'd 767 00:36:14,640 --> 00:36:18,040 Speaker 5: be more stand up. Every night after the stand up scenes, 768 00:36:18,320 --> 00:36:20,560 Speaker 5: we go back to the hotel and I would give 769 00:36:20,640 --> 00:36:24,000 Speaker 5: him notes on his stand up and he took some 770 00:36:24,280 --> 00:36:26,520 Speaker 5: in the nodded and then at a certain point he 771 00:36:26,640 --> 00:36:28,879 Speaker 5: just looked at me, Oh, I don't want to do this, Moore, 772 00:36:29,239 --> 00:36:31,799 Speaker 5: not the special. He didn't want me to give him notes, which, 773 00:36:31,880 --> 00:36:35,319 Speaker 5: by the way, one hundred percent right, and they weren't 774 00:36:35,360 --> 00:36:38,399 Speaker 5: even like real. Oh there, and see Larry. There's Larry 775 00:36:38,480 --> 00:36:39,200 Speaker 5: walking over there. 776 00:36:39,560 --> 00:36:40,160 Speaker 4: We're on set. 777 00:36:40,200 --> 00:36:44,719 Speaker 5: We didn't even mention that we're in Elisagundo in an 778 00:36:44,760 --> 00:36:47,880 Speaker 5: office building. And that's all I can say, not allowed 779 00:36:47,920 --> 00:36:50,399 Speaker 5: to say. But Larry David is walking by. And by 780 00:36:50,400 --> 00:36:52,279 Speaker 5: the way, even if we waved to him, he would 781 00:36:52,440 --> 00:36:54,440 Speaker 5: never notice. He would never know. 782 00:36:55,560 --> 00:36:57,359 Speaker 3: Day one day a lot. 783 00:36:57,560 --> 00:36:59,600 Speaker 4: But yeah, but he was walking along. 784 00:37:00,280 --> 00:37:02,960 Speaker 5: Was he got a coffee there, probably a tea, wearing 785 00:37:03,080 --> 00:37:04,840 Speaker 5: a blazer and a blue sweater. 786 00:37:05,640 --> 00:37:08,320 Speaker 4: Yeah, moving along. He's a Larry David. You all know. 787 00:37:09,200 --> 00:37:11,520 Speaker 1: The other thing also looking at him and looking at 788 00:37:11,560 --> 00:37:13,919 Speaker 1: you now, and same thing when I watched the first 789 00:37:14,000 --> 00:37:15,959 Speaker 1: episode of Myself Were so young. 790 00:37:16,880 --> 00:37:19,480 Speaker 5: Oh well, let's talk about that. But just to get 791 00:37:19,560 --> 00:37:22,440 Speaker 5: back to Larry said, I don't want to do this anymore. 792 00:37:22,960 --> 00:37:25,200 Speaker 5: And he said that he was irritated, and I looked 793 00:37:25,200 --> 00:37:27,800 Speaker 5: at him and went, yep, we should not be doing this. 794 00:37:28,160 --> 00:37:31,240 Speaker 5: Why am I trying to help him because the reason 795 00:37:31,400 --> 00:37:34,280 Speaker 5: I did was you show the making of a special. 796 00:37:34,640 --> 00:37:37,960 Speaker 5: It can go either way depending on Larry's mood when 797 00:37:38,000 --> 00:37:39,880 Speaker 5: we get to the end. Do you want to shoot 798 00:37:39,880 --> 00:37:42,800 Speaker 5: a real special or do you want to have it 799 00:37:42,960 --> 00:37:44,560 Speaker 5: end with you saying I don't want to do a special. 800 00:37:44,760 --> 00:37:47,759 Speaker 1: Having seen it now, it's obvious he's never going to 801 00:37:47,840 --> 00:37:50,160 Speaker 1: do the special without it was not obvious the first 802 00:37:50,160 --> 00:37:51,920 Speaker 1: time I saw it, though, I didn't know, and I 803 00:37:52,040 --> 00:37:54,400 Speaker 1: was actually looking forward to, thinking, oh, I'm going to 804 00:37:54,440 --> 00:37:55,600 Speaker 1: see more of his stand up. 805 00:37:55,719 --> 00:37:57,680 Speaker 5: Well, it wasn't clear to me while we were shooting it, 806 00:37:58,080 --> 00:38:01,120 Speaker 5: So I approached it like I'm helping him developed, which 807 00:38:01,239 --> 00:38:05,320 Speaker 5: is good for it was almost like doing homework to 808 00:38:05,440 --> 00:38:06,919 Speaker 5: prepare it to be better for the scene. 809 00:38:07,080 --> 00:38:10,480 Speaker 1: Once that caricature comes down on that big stage and 810 00:38:10,640 --> 00:38:12,960 Speaker 1: you look at it, and the scene with Alan Wasserman 811 00:38:13,000 --> 00:38:14,880 Speaker 1: telling him about his stepfather, it's. 812 00:38:14,880 --> 00:38:16,600 Speaker 3: Just a funny at the end of it. 813 00:38:16,760 --> 00:38:17,880 Speaker 4: Yeah, my step that's. 814 00:38:17,760 --> 00:38:18,399 Speaker 3: A great scene. 815 00:38:18,840 --> 00:38:21,799 Speaker 1: It's just him getting out of it, and that really 816 00:38:21,920 --> 00:38:24,719 Speaker 1: sets up the entire series of him getting out of 817 00:38:24,800 --> 00:38:26,320 Speaker 1: things for twelve seasons. 818 00:38:27,040 --> 00:38:30,200 Speaker 4: Yes, but by the way, that's Larry David. Though. If 819 00:38:30,280 --> 00:38:32,440 Speaker 4: you want to know a real version of Larry David. 820 00:38:33,200 --> 00:38:33,560 Speaker 4: That's it. 821 00:38:34,200 --> 00:38:36,160 Speaker 5: He loves getting out of things, doesn't want to do 822 00:38:36,239 --> 00:38:38,920 Speaker 5: them in the first place. By the way, that's my instinct. 823 00:38:39,719 --> 00:38:43,040 Speaker 5: I have social anxiety, get health, amongst my many. 824 00:38:43,520 --> 00:38:46,800 Speaker 1: Nothing makes me happier than when people cancel. COVID was fantastic. 825 00:38:46,920 --> 00:38:47,279 Speaker 5: By the way. 826 00:38:47,640 --> 00:38:49,400 Speaker 3: It built an excuse for everything. 827 00:38:49,480 --> 00:38:51,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, cancel, canceled, cancel. 828 00:38:51,280 --> 00:38:53,880 Speaker 5: It's like that one episode when Larry, because of his 829 00:38:54,000 --> 00:38:57,000 Speaker 5: mom's death, uses it an excuse, which is one of 830 00:38:57,080 --> 00:38:59,880 Speaker 5: my favorite pan that I know. But it's one of 831 00:38:59,880 --> 00:39:02,799 Speaker 5: my fair performances. So I'm looking at anything else. Oh well, 832 00:39:02,800 --> 00:39:04,160 Speaker 5: by the way, how long we've been on. 833 00:39:04,280 --> 00:39:05,600 Speaker 3: For about forty minutes. 834 00:39:06,080 --> 00:39:07,800 Speaker 5: Okay, so let's wrap up. Let me see if I 835 00:39:07,800 --> 00:39:13,040 Speaker 5: have any other things. Yeah, nope, nope, this would be 836 00:39:13,160 --> 00:39:15,920 Speaker 5: I want you to include all this people love. When 837 00:39:16,000 --> 00:39:21,520 Speaker 5: I say, nope, nope, nope, nope, no no, no, no, no, no, no, nope, nope. Stepfather, 838 00:39:21,600 --> 00:39:25,200 Speaker 5: I'm already at the end seat can't coordinate. Oh the 839 00:39:25,360 --> 00:39:29,239 Speaker 5: stepfather died from hitting a pole. Yeah, yeah that was 840 00:39:30,400 --> 00:39:33,360 Speaker 5: And by the way, to me, the funniest line in 841 00:39:33,440 --> 00:39:36,960 Speaker 5: the whole episode not set by me, not said by Larry, 842 00:39:37,120 --> 00:39:41,080 Speaker 5: but Judy Toll, who when Larry's explaining about what's going 843 00:39:41,200 --> 00:39:43,960 Speaker 5: on and they're upset that he's not going to be 844 00:39:44,040 --> 00:39:48,160 Speaker 5: doing a special him. No, no, no, no, there's no 845 00:39:48,360 --> 00:39:52,799 Speaker 5: bad people. She says that amongst which is like part 846 00:39:52,840 --> 00:39:55,840 Speaker 5: of the discussion yet a complete non sequitor. And the 847 00:39:55,920 --> 00:39:58,120 Speaker 5: way she said there's no bad people. 848 00:39:58,080 --> 00:40:01,360 Speaker 3: That is an example of a many instincts. Well, she 849 00:40:01,520 --> 00:40:04,120 Speaker 3: was a great comedian of just knowing. And it's a 850 00:40:04,160 --> 00:40:05,000 Speaker 3: great loss time. 851 00:40:05,360 --> 00:40:08,200 Speaker 5: It is God, you know, I learned a lot more 852 00:40:08,280 --> 00:40:10,520 Speaker 5: what a loss it was Judy Toll when I went 853 00:40:10,600 --> 00:40:12,640 Speaker 5: to her memorial and they showed all this video of 854 00:40:12,760 --> 00:40:15,000 Speaker 5: her that I'd never seen, and I was like, wow, 855 00:40:15,080 --> 00:40:16,360 Speaker 5: she was truly a genius. 856 00:40:16,960 --> 00:40:19,120 Speaker 3: And just I hate when funny people die. They can't 857 00:40:19,120 --> 00:40:19,680 Speaker 3: be reported well. 858 00:40:19,719 --> 00:40:22,160 Speaker 5: By the way, you know, the thing about comedians, it's 859 00:40:22,360 --> 00:40:25,160 Speaker 5: like people may not dig me, people may not dig you, 860 00:40:25,680 --> 00:40:29,600 Speaker 5: but whatever comedian you do dig there's a personal connection 861 00:40:30,120 --> 00:40:33,560 Speaker 5: that cannot be with any actor, any musician, even though 862 00:40:33,560 --> 00:40:36,360 Speaker 5: people look it's just with comedians. I don't know what 863 00:40:36,600 --> 00:40:40,000 Speaker 5: that is, because I know I've experienced that when my 864 00:40:40,239 --> 00:40:41,520 Speaker 5: heroes have passed away. 865 00:40:41,800 --> 00:40:44,120 Speaker 3: Well, and what people don't know or they do, is 866 00:40:44,200 --> 00:40:46,680 Speaker 3: that you're wearing a Richard Pryor shirt. I'm wearing a. 867 00:40:46,719 --> 00:40:50,160 Speaker 5: Richard which, by the way, go to Richard Pryor dot 868 00:40:50,239 --> 00:40:52,960 Speaker 5: com and there are a bunch of stuff and they're 869 00:40:53,000 --> 00:40:56,279 Speaker 5: amazing t shirts, including the one I'm wearing, and all 870 00:40:56,320 --> 00:40:58,279 Speaker 5: the money goes to the prior family. It's like their 871 00:40:58,320 --> 00:41:01,080 Speaker 5: own Richard Pryorce, a right enterprise, whatever it is. 872 00:41:01,600 --> 00:41:04,960 Speaker 4: I love them. So there you go. So we're so 873 00:41:05,080 --> 00:41:05,440 Speaker 4: we're good. 874 00:41:05,560 --> 00:41:08,920 Speaker 3: And next episode we're going to start with the series. 875 00:41:09,120 --> 00:41:12,160 Speaker 5: Yes, season season one. This was a two parter and 876 00:41:12,239 --> 00:41:14,080 Speaker 5: then there'll be no more two parters. 877 00:41:14,200 --> 00:41:15,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, coming up the Pants Tent. 878 00:41:16,320 --> 00:41:18,160 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, the first episode is the Pants Tent. 879 00:41:18,880 --> 00:41:23,279 Speaker 3: I love that all right, Bye bye, and thank you. 880 00:41:23,480 --> 00:41:26,759 Speaker 5: So much for listening. It's so appreciated for those of 881 00:41:26,800 --> 00:41:29,960 Speaker 5: you are listening. For those of you using us as 882 00:41:30,040 --> 00:41:32,440 Speaker 5: background sounds, that's delightful too.