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Speaker 1: Hello Texans, and welcome to the program. Mark vanderbar and

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Speaker 1: John Harris together again for the first time in Johnny,

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Speaker 1: what is it over two weeks? We haven't got a

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Speaker 1: show on two weeks together, all right, So it's been

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Speaker 1: a while. Well, we did WHOA What's Today? Friday? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: though it was last Thursday. Yeah, but it was with McClain, so,

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Speaker 1: which is fine. But just you and me back and

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Speaker 1: forth for the whole hour. We haven't had one of

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Speaker 1: these since I don't know, because I left town a

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Speaker 1: couple of weeks ago, and then I came back, and

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Speaker 1: then I left it right away again to the Massachusetts

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Speaker 1: trip to the Old Country as I called it with

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Speaker 1: John McClain last night, and and I'm back. You're back

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Speaker 1: from going out west, so we went in different directions

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Speaker 1: and now we're back here. And look, I know camp

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Speaker 1: doesn't start for about four weeks, but I feel it.

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Speaker 1: I think everybody feels it coming. You can feel the

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Speaker 1: rumbling under the soil as we go. And are numerous

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Speaker 1: things I want to get to tonight. But it's good

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Speaker 1: to see if my friend it's gonna be with you

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Speaker 1: on the air once again. I mean, I it's great

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Speaker 1: to be back from Boston, which I mean, I've never

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Speaker 1: met a bunch of more spoiled brats in my life

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Speaker 1: sports wise, Just totally spoiled little sports children, you know,

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Speaker 1: you know I talk about sports hate. This is spoiled

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Speaker 1: sports fans, totally spoiled. In the last twenty years, you

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Speaker 1: have Patriots six Super Bowls, you have Red Sox four

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Speaker 1: World Series, you have Bruins Championship and Celtics Championship. That's

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Speaker 1: twelve among the four major sports. There. I don't know

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Speaker 1: what the Revolution has done if you want to throw

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Speaker 1: them into the mixes a fifth over there. But the

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Speaker 1: two big ones, baseball and football, you got ten. It's ridiculous.

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Speaker 1: And I was trying to explain to Vander Kid that

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Speaker 1: when I lived there twenty five thirty years ago, the

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Speaker 1: Red Sox were going through a curse of the Bambinos.

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Speaker 1: Still the Patriots hadn't done anything. I mean, they went

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Speaker 1: to a Super Bowl or two, but they lost those

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Speaker 1: and it was always this massive struggle. And now look

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Speaker 1: at them, so you never know what can happen to

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Speaker 1: a sports city. But they're so spoiled. Johnny, They're like,

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Speaker 1: I don't know if Belichick is gonna be the guy

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Speaker 1: because like he's got to side on the stiding quarterback.

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Speaker 1: I'm thinking, really, really, you're gonna doubt Belichick because he

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Speaker 1: hasn't named a starter yet for sure, because he's not

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Speaker 1: going to mac Jones. He's got Cam what's he gonna do.

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Speaker 1: That's why they got Hoya. Hoya is gonna help out.

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Speaker 1: So it's kind of funny to hear them debate all

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Speaker 1: that up there. I can imagine it's funny. I was,

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Speaker 1: I'm with the other way I drove. I drove out west,

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Speaker 1: so I ended up out in LA and then I

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Speaker 1: flew back last night, and it was so funny because

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Speaker 1: I'm walking through the airport and I've always kind of

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Speaker 1: kind of fair weather like Da you know, they're kind

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Speaker 1: of they'll take whatever's hot. And as I was walking

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Speaker 1: And the fact was that the very or that the

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Speaker 1: they were just high on life. Man, they were so

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Speaker 1: they were so happy. But I was like that kiosk

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Speaker 1: But my daughter and wife are gonna get the full.

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Speaker 1: interesting place, to say the least, on the complete opposite

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Speaker 1: I mean sports talking man about whatever. But look, the

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Speaker 1: Dodgers are huge out west, clearly, It's just LA is

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Speaker 1: a different kind of sports town. And I'm reminded of,

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Speaker 1: we've taught for years before they got there, before football

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Speaker 1: that square had to remain open as a bargaining ship

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Speaker 1: their home markets. And it almost worked in Saint Louis.

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Speaker 1: They actually had some kind of deal ready to go,

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Speaker 1: but Cronky clearly wanted the Rams back in La. Johnny,

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Speaker 1: I think the jury is still out on how successful

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Speaker 1: full season in the new stadium with fan potential here

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Speaker 1: because of COVID last year. But give it three four years.

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Speaker 1: If the Rams aren't as successful as the locals want

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Speaker 1: don't think so. I think it's been proven in that market. Look,

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Speaker 1: for quite some time, and they were when the Rams

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Speaker 1: but it still remains to be seen. They've got to

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Speaker 1: it driving in and I'm like, that is enormous. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: mark my goodness, it's gonna be incredible. I don't know

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Speaker 1: But I happen to think about the rams as I

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Speaker 1: until the season. I'm good. But that was the first time.

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Speaker 1: I felt like and I saw it. It wasn't like

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Speaker 1: I mean, we've seen our little Southern California experience unfold

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Speaker 1: the Chargers, which is still the hottest game I've ever

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Speaker 1: But in the boot that day, I was literally they

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Speaker 1: much easier, so much better, And I'm eager to go

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Speaker 1: Another thing I wanted to get to you right off

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Speaker 1: the bat here, and it's around the league sort of topic.

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Speaker 1: And speaking of the Rams, we all know Kurt Warner

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Speaker 1: in St. Louis, right, And there's a movie coming out

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Speaker 1: in December. About Kurt Warner's life. So I wanted to

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Speaker 1: what you think of Texans and movies made about them. Now,

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Speaker 1: I just thought it was interesting to talk about with

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Speaker 1: to seeing that, all right, looking forward to this, well, Johnny,

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Speaker 1: because coming up last night, by the way, I kind

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Speaker 1: of cheated on you. We had Who's Better with John

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Speaker 1: McClane doing the Who's betters? Yeah, sorry, And we used

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Speaker 1: some questions that I've asked you before, like vintage quarterbacks

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Speaker 1: and everything. His answers are very short. He's like, I

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Speaker 1: lackt asman better better quarterback? Next, you know, like, oh

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Speaker 1: my gosh, God, you're killing me over here. Anyway, tonight

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Speaker 1: we're gonna play more likely to happen and it's next

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Speaker 1: Now here's the show, all right, Texans, Mark Vadimir John

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Speaker 1: Harris with you tonight as we talk about things that

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Speaker 1: are more likely to happen. We do this on Thursdays

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Speaker 1: very often, but hey, it's summer and the days are

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Speaker 1: all mixed up, and what the heck? Right, fourth of

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Speaker 1: July weekend, let's go by the way. We will have

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Speaker 1: a show on Monday for everybody. A lot of you

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Speaker 1: have the day off, and that's good, and a lot

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Speaker 1: of you work on the holidays and that's good too,

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Speaker 1: you know. Johnny vander Kidd is a lifeguard. He's a

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Speaker 1: fifteen year old lifeguard. How about that. I'm really hoping

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Speaker 1: no one needs his services, and I'm honest about that

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Speaker 1: many different ways. But he's fifteen years old, a lifeguard,

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Speaker 1: and he's working on the fourth of July. It's good.

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Speaker 1: It's good that people learn that. You know, that has

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Speaker 1: to be done from time to time. Are you ready

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Speaker 1: if you get time and a half? Do you get

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Speaker 1: time and half of that? He's gonna get extra. I

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Speaker 1: don't know if it's time and a half. I hope

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Speaker 1: it is. But it's not a very lucrative endeavor. But

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Speaker 1: it's really great at the resume. I think being a

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Speaker 1: lifeguard resume. I was a lifeguard, you know, I know CPR.

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Speaker 1: I could save lives here in this business whatever it is.

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Speaker 1: You know, if you're working in an office, if someone

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Speaker 1: is drowning by the water cooler. I got this, all right,

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Speaker 1: let's do this. More likely to happen, more likely to happen.

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Speaker 1: First one here, more likely a training camp. By the way,

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Speaker 1: this is the semi training camp aetition. More likely to

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Speaker 1: get a second team quarterback reps? Would it be Davis

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Speaker 1: Mills or one young mister Driscoll, what are you thinking?

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Speaker 1: I think this is Davis Mills. I just have a

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Speaker 1: feeling that as as time goes on, it's gonna be

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Speaker 1: It's gonna be Davis Mills. I don't know if there's

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Speaker 1: anything in particular I saw it OTAs And by the way,

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Speaker 1: do you see that rban Meyer already got the Jaguars

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Speaker 1: in trouble. I don't know what he did. I don't

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Speaker 1: know what they' but the Cowboys, the Jags and the

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Speaker 1: forty nine ers got in trouble for what they had

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Speaker 1: done during their OTAs, so they got their wrist slap.

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Speaker 1: So irban Meyer now has hired a strength coach they

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Speaker 1: got fired at Iowa that within thirty six hours of

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Speaker 1: his hiring and the announcement, they had to run him out,

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Speaker 1: and now he's gotten in trouble for it. So anyhow,

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Speaker 1: I thought it was pretty interesting as listen to Landry

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Speaker 1: and John today as I tried to get my bearings

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Speaker 1: back in Houston, and they were talking about irban Meyer

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Speaker 1: and can you cheat to win in the NFL? And

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Speaker 1: I thought not the way that probably was done in

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Speaker 1: college fool before. But that's a different story altogether. So Ill.

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Speaker 1: I thought it was interesting though they got their their

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Speaker 1: hands slapped. I just think it's Davis Mills. I think

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Speaker 1: that maybe not right away, but I think within the

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Speaker 1: first couple of weeks, I could see a scenario where

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Speaker 1: preseason game at Green Bay, Drisco gets the second team reps.

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Speaker 1: Davis Mills looks good getting the third team reps, but

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Speaker 1: he gets the whole second half. You know, maybe Driscoll

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Speaker 1: gets the second quarter or you know, back into the

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Speaker 1: first second. Mills gets the entire second half. He looks good,

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Speaker 1: he does some things. Coaches are now intrigued. They want

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Speaker 1: to see him get some second team reps. And then

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Speaker 1: that's where it happens. That's where Davis is like, Okay,

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Speaker 1: I'll get the second team reps from now on, and

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Speaker 1: he takes it all the way through preseason. That's I'm

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Speaker 1: going with Davis Mills. I you know, you know, Jemy

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Speaker 1: Brandam and Brandon Scott had a really interesting conversation about

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Speaker 1: it this morning, and John and Landy we're talking about

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Speaker 1: it too, talking about Davis Mills and the impact and

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Speaker 1: all that. I don't think there's any there's any rush

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Speaker 1: in moving Davis Mills along. I just think it naturally

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Speaker 1: will happen because I think his talent will start to

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Speaker 1: shine as he gets in this system, as he gets

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Speaker 1: out there in preseason games and he starts slinging around

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Speaker 1: a little bit, I think there will be this thought that, hey,

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Speaker 1: we'd like to see him with the twos a little

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Speaker 1: bit more. Okay, let's give him week two the preseason

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Speaker 1: at Dallas. Let's see how he does with the twos

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Speaker 1: in that situation and go from there. So I think

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Speaker 1: it will eventually be Davis Mills. I think we're off

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Speaker 1: the bat, it'll be Jeff Driscoll, But it'll be Davis

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Speaker 1: Mills in due time. All right. I should have rephrased

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Speaker 1: it or phrased it differently, because I guess what you're

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Speaker 1: saying is, when camp begins, it's more likely that Driscoll

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Speaker 1: moves up during camp. Okay, yes, I want to be

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Speaker 1: on that all right. More likely to happen, more likely

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Speaker 1: to happen, Marcus Cannon at tackle, Marcus Cannon at guard

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Speaker 1: to start things out, where in the first week at camp,

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Speaker 1: or watching the old line operate, where is he Johnny Man? Well,

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Speaker 1: the first thing I hope is he's not rehabbing. That's

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Speaker 1: that's one thing I hope. I hope options Hey, having

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Speaker 1: gone through now he went through a nan scope operation,

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Speaker 1: whatever how you want to look at it, all indicases

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Speaker 1: are he's gonna be ready to go for training camp.

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Speaker 1: So assuming that he will be ready for training camp, gosh,

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Speaker 1: I've gone back and forth on this so often, and

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Speaker 1: I really want to see Titus Howard Larry Tunsil a

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Speaker 1: tackle together. I think another year together, I think is good.

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Speaker 1: I think Marcus has got to be on this offensive line.

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Speaker 1: I've said this I don't know how many times about

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Speaker 1: the only things that we know is all things considered,

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Speaker 1: no deals or trades or any of that made Larry

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Speaker 1: Tunsil's your left tackle. And that's about all really I

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Speaker 1: could guarantee. I would I would lean heavily towards Justin Britt.

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Speaker 1: If Justin Britt's healthy, he's the center. Those two things,

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Speaker 1: I feel pretty confident about everything else. You could. You

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Speaker 1: could convince me of, Hey, you're gonna put Titus at

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Speaker 1: guard Candida tackle and we're gonna play Lane Taylor at

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Speaker 1: the other guard. Okay, yeah, I can see that. I

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Speaker 1: just have a feeling that Titus, Howard, Larmy, Tuncil, Justin

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Speaker 1: Britt those three guys are gonna be on this starting

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Speaker 1: offensive line. I think Cannon, who really good about him

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Speaker 1: being the fourth guy. I'm not totally sure who the

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Speaker 1: fifth guy is. I feel like those four are there.

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Speaker 1: If they are, then Cannon's the guard I think. And

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Speaker 1: it makes probably a little bit more sense now if

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Speaker 1: you want to, if you want to go to this

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Speaker 1: game as far as salary goes there, you know, Titus

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Speaker 1: is coming up on his his what what's this year

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Speaker 1: for him? Twenty one? This is third year, so he's

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Speaker 1: coming up on a year in which and he plays tackle,

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Speaker 1: and he plays extremely well. Man, he's gonna make a

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Speaker 1: bowload of money. But do you save some money by

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Speaker 1: moving him over to guard? I don't know, And I

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Speaker 1: don't know whether that's I don't know whether that's a

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Speaker 1: thought or not. I just want the five that are

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Speaker 1: But my gut has said, even when the trade was made,

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Speaker 1: Titus stays at tackle, Cannon goes into guard. They'll figure

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Speaker 1: out how they'll they'll figure that out. I know. People said, well,

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Speaker 1: Greg Canny wasn't great as a guard, yeah, when he

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Speaker 1: was younger in his career, so he's learned. He's learned

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Speaker 1: a lot since then. Plus I think Cannon three and

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Speaker 1: thirty five pounds. I think he's a shade heavier than Titus.

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Speaker 1: I think he can handle playing guard maybe a little

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Speaker 1: bit better. I don't, man, I don't. That's such a

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Speaker 1: tough one. I just think guard is the best way

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Speaker 1: to go. Let Titus stay at right tackle at Larry

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Speaker 1: tuns will stay at left tackle slot, Marcus Cannon in

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Speaker 1: there at right guard, right next to Titus, in between

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Speaker 1: Britt and then figure out who your left guard is.

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Speaker 1: I think that's probably the way it'll go. That's that's well.

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Speaker 1: I'm not betting any money on it. I'm not going

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Speaker 1: to Vegas like we talked about earlier. I'm not going

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Speaker 1: to bet any money on I know that for a fact.

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Speaker 1: You look at the tackle situation, yea, Ron Johnson still yeah,

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Speaker 1: Charlie had good in spots last year, right, and then

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Speaker 1: everybody else we just mentioned. Because if you go with Howard,

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Speaker 1: you have Cannon. If you go with Cannon, you have

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Speaker 1: Howard on the right side and on the left side

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Speaker 1: of Laramie, and you can adjust there whichever way you want,

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Speaker 1: probably Johnson, So you do have some options there. You

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Speaker 1: do have a little bit of depth. Knock wood, knock

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Speaker 1: everything you can knock right now, all right, more likely

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Speaker 1: to happen here, now, more likely to happen, let's go

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Speaker 1: with more likely to emerge from perceived deep position on

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Speaker 1: the depth chart, sort of forgotten men here from the

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Speaker 1: rookie class of twenty twenty. More likely to emerge John

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Speaker 1: Reed or Isaiah Coulter because both are in situations where

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Speaker 1: there are some dudes ahead of them. All right, let's

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Speaker 1: just be honest here, and they're gonna have to come

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Speaker 1: out of the basement to make the impression that they want.

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Speaker 1: So who's more likely to do it? Johnny? I think

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Speaker 1: you're right. These two are very very similar in that way.

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Speaker 1: I think given what each one, if just kind of

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Speaker 1: look at him first of all, John Reid, I think

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Speaker 1: think he's an outside guy, as he could go inside

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Speaker 1: a little bit if you need him too. But he's

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Speaker 1: an outside guy. John Reid's an inside corner, and I

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Speaker 1: think that's what he is. So who's he in competition

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Speaker 1: with Desmond King, Vernon Hargraves. He's got more competition because

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Speaker 1: you've got to be good at that inside corner position.

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Speaker 1: But I think John Reid can play that position. I

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Speaker 1: we want it to be. Whereas receivers, I feel like

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Speaker 1: Nico Collins can be that guy that we've wanted, and

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Speaker 1: he's probably gonna get I don't know, he's probably gonna

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Speaker 1: get first opportunity coach by coach, by some coaches on

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Speaker 1: scouted and then drafted by the Texans to come in

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Speaker 1: and be that guy that takes a top off defense

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Speaker 1: and does the different things that Isaiah can new. I

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Speaker 1: will not rule out Isaiah Coulter though, just watching him

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Speaker 1: at OTAs man, there's something there. There's athleticism, there's a

643
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Speaker 1: little bit of size. I think his confidence gets in

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Speaker 1: the way or lack thereof His lack of confidence gets

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Speaker 1: in the ways sometimes. But man, he can make some plays.

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Speaker 1: Every now again, he'll make a catch and you go,

647
00:34:04,080 --> 00:34:06,800
Speaker 1: WHOA that Coulter. They're like, yeah, that's Coulter. He can

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Speaker 1: do it. But I still think John read given what's

649
00:34:10,680 --> 00:34:13,759
Speaker 1: in the secondary right now, I think John Reid would

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00:34:13,800 --> 00:34:16,120
Speaker 1: have a chance to kind of step forward just at

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Speaker 1: a hair before. I said Coulter more likely to happen,

652
00:34:20,680 --> 00:34:25,440
Speaker 1: more likely to have a bigger impact in the secondary,

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Speaker 1: even though they're different. Role wise, Terrence Mitchell or Desmond

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00:34:28,640 --> 00:34:31,600
Speaker 1: King more likely to have a bigger impact this year.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if we say enough about these guys, Johnny,

656
00:34:34,440 --> 00:34:36,880
Speaker 1: what they can do back there and the roles that

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00:34:36,960 --> 00:34:39,920
Speaker 1: they can play, because look, they've done some things in

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00:34:39,920 --> 00:34:44,719
Speaker 1: the past. Mitchell's a turnover causer and obviously Desmond King

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00:34:44,760 --> 00:34:46,400
Speaker 1: has done some thing has been at all pro. So

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Speaker 1: what do you think I think Terrence Mitchell. I think

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Speaker 1: Terrence is gonna end up starting at that one spot

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Speaker 1: opposite Bradley Roby. And just going back and watching Terrence,

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Speaker 1: I remember when he was here a few years ago

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Speaker 1: and I thought he was gonna make the team then.

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Speaker 1: But I think this system actually might fit Terrence a

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00:35:03,080 --> 00:35:06,800
Speaker 1: little bit better. It's more than likely it's gonna be

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00:35:06,840 --> 00:35:09,440
Speaker 1: a little bit more zone based than man based. I

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Speaker 1: still think Terrence can play man. But I think Terrence

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Speaker 1: is pretty smart. Just going back and the playoff game

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Speaker 1: was a great indication of that. I think I did

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Speaker 1: a football on Tell Straight did Tell Steyer on Terrence

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Speaker 1: Mitchell against the Steelers, and there a couple of times

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Speaker 1: where he's played. He's playing a rolled up corner to

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Speaker 1: cover two and he's just kind of reading things happen.

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Speaker 1: And then he's kind of baiting Ben into making throws

676
00:35:33,080 --> 00:35:36,160
Speaker 1: and he knocks away a throw that should really not

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00:35:36,280 --> 00:35:38,520
Speaker 1: be knocked down, but because he saw it, read it,

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00:35:38,840 --> 00:35:42,000
Speaker 1: broke on it, showed all the physical skills to get there,

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Speaker 1: he ends up making a play on it and it

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00:35:44,400 --> 00:35:46,320
Speaker 1: should have been a five yard completion and he knocks

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00:35:46,360 --> 00:35:48,359
Speaker 1: it away for an incompletion set up third and seven.

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00:35:48,360 --> 00:35:50,560
Speaker 1: The Browns got off the field after a stop, So

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Speaker 1: I think Terrence Mitchell is gonna start opposite Bradley Roby.

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Speaker 1: That's my gut. That's no inside information, that's my gut.

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00:35:57,920 --> 00:36:00,239
Speaker 1: I think Terrence Mitchell starts. I do think that hasn't

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Speaker 1: been King and John Reid on the inside. They're gonna

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00:36:02,800 --> 00:36:05,440
Speaker 1: be a two guys battling for the inside job. I

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00:36:05,480 --> 00:36:07,560
Speaker 1: think Desmond King could have find a way with Vernon,

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Speaker 1: but I think those two are gonna be guys that

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Speaker 1: I would I would keep an eye on. I think

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Speaker 1: those two guys inside, to me, I would if I

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Speaker 1: were making the choice, I think they would probably go

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Speaker 1: one two ahead of Vernon. But that's gonna play itself

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Speaker 1: out in training camp. But I think Terrece Mitchell is

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00:36:22,600 --> 00:36:24,640
Speaker 1: gonna start that one corner, and I think Read and

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00:36:24,719 --> 00:36:26,720
Speaker 1: King are gonna battle it out for that job inside.

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00:36:27,000 --> 00:36:29,600
Speaker 1: They got a little nickel depth. They don't have much

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Speaker 1: depth on the outside. So we'll see how that plays

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Speaker 1: out in camp. That's gonna be a subject that we

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Speaker 1: go over a lot when we get to our Texas

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Speaker 1: training Camp Live Shows. All right, Next up, I've got

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Speaker 1: one more for you regarding the tight end position and

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Speaker 1: anything else we need to clean up around the National

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Speaker 1: Football League. It's Texans Radio, Mark Vanderman and John Harris

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Speaker 1: with you. Great to have your listening on the fourth

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Speaker 1: of July weekend. All right, we're doing more likely to

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00:36:51,600 --> 00:36:53,239
Speaker 1: happen at Johnny, I wanted to get this one out

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Speaker 1: of the way, and I've thrown this one at you

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Speaker 1: in a different kind of way. But the tight end position.

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Speaker 1: You know, if you say more likely to have the

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00:36:59,600 --> 00:37:02,000
Speaker 1: most atches, it's gonna be Jordan Nakens. He's gonna win

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Speaker 1: that for now anyway. But who's more likely to be second? Johnny,

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Speaker 1: Who's gonna be second? In receptions? Because you do have

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Speaker 1: some options here. You have the rookie Brevin Jordan, right,

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Speaker 1: you have wearing does he come out of nowhere and

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00:37:15,160 --> 00:37:16,960
Speaker 1: all of a sudden it's not exactly nowhere, but you

717
00:37:17,040 --> 00:37:19,000
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, and all of a sudden emerge

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00:37:19,080 --> 00:37:22,799
Speaker 1: as that guy Parah Brown because he did have some

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00:37:23,000 --> 00:37:27,279
Speaker 1: playmaking moments last year. But you know, I think it's

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Speaker 1: got to be Jordan based on where and how and

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Speaker 1: what you did to get him on draft weekend, but

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Speaker 1: maybe not. What are you thinking? I could make a

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Speaker 1: case and when other people make a case for hey,

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Speaker 1: I like you said, it could be Brevin Jordan, it

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00:37:45,400 --> 00:37:47,560
Speaker 1: could be Farah Brown, it could be Collie Wearing. Who

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Speaker 1: who is he gonna? I mean, I can hear a

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Speaker 1: case actually for all three guys and say yeah, I yeah,

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Speaker 1: I could see any of those three guys doing it.

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00:37:57,800 --> 00:38:02,799
Speaker 1: My gut tells me that this is gonna sound weird.

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Speaker 1: It won't be Kahalie Wearing because Kahalie Wearing will either

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Speaker 1: lead the tight ends in nearly every category or he's

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Speaker 1: gonna fall to the back of the pack and it'll

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Speaker 1: be an unfortunate miss I don't think there's any in between.

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Speaker 1: I think he is the guy that catches sixty sixty

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Speaker 1: five passes and he takes that Fedora what's like jump

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Speaker 1: or he just kind of lags behind. It just can't

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Speaker 1: it just it doesn't happen. That makes me think Parah

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Speaker 1: Brown is that second guy. Is he's going to be

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Speaker 1: the guy because they use him in a number of

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Speaker 1: different ways, and especially using in the run game. While

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Speaker 1: off the run game comes play action, he's out on

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Speaker 1: the field. He's kind of their hback, fullback sort of guy.

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Speaker 1: I think Pharall Brown ends up being used a pretty

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Speaker 1: decent amount. And the more I thought about it, DP

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00:38:49,080 --> 00:38:51,279
Speaker 1: did interview and I played it. I think earlier this week.

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Speaker 1: The more I got to think about Farah Brown. This

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Speaker 1: guy's a really good athlete, extremely athletic, really good hands, big, strong,

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Speaker 1: I mean, he's everything you want. He just had overcome

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Speaker 1: some pre significant injuries. I think it really could be

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Speaker 1: Parah Brown. I would be shocked if he gets to

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Speaker 1: number one, but I could see Farah Brown catching thirty

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Speaker 1: to thirty five passes is a tight end for sure.

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Speaker 1: That would more than likely put him number two. Yeah,

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00:39:18,960 --> 00:39:21,480
Speaker 1: and look the way he plays, the fact that he

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00:39:21,520 --> 00:39:25,800
Speaker 1: could do everything, fy h, whatever letter you want to

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00:39:25,880 --> 00:39:27,719
Speaker 1: offer a tight end, he can do all of it.

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00:39:28,360 --> 00:39:30,920
Speaker 1: That bodes well for his ability to be on the field.

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00:39:30,920 --> 00:39:32,560
Speaker 1: You look, you know they're gonna run the ball a

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00:39:32,560 --> 00:39:34,680
Speaker 1: ton if they possibly can, and I think they will

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00:39:34,719 --> 00:39:37,200
Speaker 1: be able to. And what you can do off of

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00:39:37,239 --> 00:39:39,920
Speaker 1: that is huge and he'll be a big part of that.

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Speaker 1: So I like what he could do for this team

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00:39:42,000 --> 00:39:45,160
Speaker 1: and Aikens as well. Look, Aikens is a tremendous athlete.

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Speaker 1: It wasn't always so pretty last year, but you saw

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Speaker 1: some good moments in his career so far. So I'm

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Speaker 1: really excited about that. Other things going out around the league.

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00:39:55,120 --> 00:39:59,360
Speaker 1: You know, it's funny because being around the country, traveling whatever,

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Speaker 1: it's interesting to get people's perspective on what is going

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Speaker 1: on around the NFL. Never mind the Houston Texans, what

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00:40:06,160 --> 00:40:09,439
Speaker 1: is going on around the NFL. And I think that

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Speaker 1: there are some teams that are getting way too much

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Speaker 1: love and this is probably another subject for another day,

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Speaker 1: and some teams that aren't getting enough love at all. Right, Like,

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Speaker 1: I think the Tennessee Titans are getting their share of love.

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00:40:21,800 --> 00:40:24,160
Speaker 1: You know, they are getting they are getting a lot

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Speaker 1: of respect. A lot of people think that this is

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Speaker 1: a team that's good to go. Julio Jones as an

778
00:40:29,760 --> 00:40:33,319
Speaker 1: addition is phenomenal for them. But then, you know, you

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Speaker 1: look at some teams that might be getting too much love.

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Speaker 1: I don't think the Kansas City Chiefs are getting too

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Speaker 1: much love. I think they're an outstanding team and they're

782
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Speaker 1: going to continue to be so until they start losing

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Speaker 1: some of the pieces that they have. You know, why,

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Speaker 1: why would you knock them off their perch. I like

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Speaker 1: the Bills too. I think the Browns have a ton

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Speaker 1: of talent, Johnny, but there's something about them. Maybe it's

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Speaker 1: just the Brown uniform that just has me thinking that

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Speaker 1: it might not work out as well as people think.

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Speaker 1: But we'll see how it goes. What do you think of?

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00:41:01,400 --> 00:41:03,880
Speaker 1: What are you hearing? Well? As far as the Browns go,

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00:41:05,200 --> 00:41:09,120
Speaker 1: I think Andrew Barry as GM and executive vice president

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00:41:09,239 --> 00:41:12,640
Speaker 1: and Kevin Stefanski as head coach is a much better

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00:41:12,719 --> 00:41:16,359
Speaker 1: combination than what they had prior to, so I think

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00:41:16,400 --> 00:41:20,759
Speaker 1: they'll be able to handle some of the the ups

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00:41:20,760 --> 00:41:22,279
Speaker 1: and downs and the pressure a little bit better than

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00:41:22,280 --> 00:41:23,960
Speaker 1: they could a couple of years ago. I think Baker,

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00:41:24,040 --> 00:41:27,719
Speaker 1: having gone through the Ringer, will put the Browns in

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00:41:27,760 --> 00:41:30,319
Speaker 1: pretty good stead. Now, if you're relying on Clowney to

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Speaker 1: be the Clowney of fifteen or sixteen and seventeen, I

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Speaker 1: don't know if you can do that. But what's gonna

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00:41:37,000 --> 00:41:39,720
Speaker 1: be interesting for them is how does OBJ get baked

802
00:41:39,719 --> 00:41:43,440
Speaker 1: back into this offense? And no pun intended there because

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00:41:43,520 --> 00:41:45,520
Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield has to learn how to deal with that.

804
00:41:45,680 --> 00:41:48,440
Speaker 1: But I thought it was a pretty interesting thought process

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Speaker 1: I think you're right. I think the Titans are getting

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00:41:50,840 --> 00:41:54,040
Speaker 1: now with Julio, they were getting the requisite amount of love.

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00:41:54,719 --> 00:41:59,320
Speaker 1: So you know, rock on. The team in the AFC

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Speaker 1: that is not getting, I don't know, getting the love

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00:42:03,719 --> 00:42:05,719
Speaker 1: that maybe they should is the other team in the

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Speaker 1: AFC South, and that's the Colts. I don't think that

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Speaker 1: teams are talking about the Colts because you look at

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00:42:11,600 --> 00:42:14,640
Speaker 1: the Colts and it's a pretty complete roster. Yeah, except

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00:42:14,520 --> 00:42:17,840
Speaker 1: on one position where we'll have doubt. And look, you

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00:42:17,920 --> 00:42:22,320
Speaker 1: could all work out swimmingly for them. Wentz could be outstanding.

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Speaker 1: It could be the old Wentz stay healthy and oh

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00:42:24,600 --> 00:42:27,160
Speaker 1: my gosh, look what happened. It could be the Tannehill

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00:42:27,239 --> 00:42:29,880
Speaker 1: to the Tennessee kind of thing, or even better than that.

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00:42:30,120 --> 00:42:32,839
Speaker 1: But it could also be he got hurt again. They

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Speaker 1: can't throw it as well as they want. They've got issues. Anyway.

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Speaker 1: That's all the show time we have for today. Showtime.

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Speaker 1: It's over, but we'll be back Monday. Johnny looking forward

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Speaker 1: to you you would have a safe and happy fourth of July.

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Speaker 1: My friend you as well. Mark. We'll see on Monday.

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Speaker 1: And all of our listeners, thanks so much for being

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Speaker 1: a part of the mix. And go to Houston Texans

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Speaker 1: dot com and the Texans app to catch up on

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Speaker 1: everything related to your Texans. Have a great weekend, Happy

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Speaker 1: Fourth Go Texans.