1 00:00:21,079 --> 00:00:24,520 Speaker 1: He is a three time Super Bowl champion. He is 2 00:00:24,640 --> 00:00:28,360 Speaker 1: an author. He is the GM of the North Carolina 3 00:00:28,520 --> 00:00:32,320 Speaker 1: tar Heel football team. Taylor is a former tar Heel 4 00:00:32,360 --> 00:00:34,680 Speaker 1: played wide receiver. Mike, I'm not certainly you're aware of 5 00:00:34,720 --> 00:00:38,559 Speaker 1: the executive producer played wide receiver for the North Carolina 6 00:00:38,600 --> 00:00:40,959 Speaker 1: tar Heels, and we are tempted to have him lead 7 00:00:41,000 --> 00:00:41,519 Speaker 1: this interview. 8 00:00:41,520 --> 00:00:42,440 Speaker 2: What do you think about that? 9 00:00:42,760 --> 00:00:45,440 Speaker 3: I love it. He's in Carolina blue, which I appreciate. 10 00:00:45,479 --> 00:00:48,279 Speaker 3: Thank you very much, Taylor. I appreciate that. Is there 11 00:00:48,280 --> 00:00:51,080 Speaker 3: a better color? I love that too. We're gonna make 12 00:00:51,120 --> 00:00:53,199 Speaker 3: you proud, brother. We're gonna bring back the history of 13 00:00:53,240 --> 00:00:55,680 Speaker 3: the franchise. We walked in this building. There wasn't one 14 00:00:55,720 --> 00:00:58,600 Speaker 3: thing about Lawrence Taylor in this building. We walked in 15 00:00:58,680 --> 00:01:04,040 Speaker 3: this building that was barely anything about about Julius Peppers. 16 00:01:04,120 --> 00:01:06,240 Speaker 3: And here's the question I want to ask you, Taylor, 17 00:01:06,280 --> 00:01:09,839 Speaker 3: as an a lump. Yes, there are three NFL players 18 00:01:10,200 --> 00:01:12,720 Speaker 3: that played at North Carolina that are in the Hall 19 00:01:12,800 --> 00:01:16,120 Speaker 3: of Fame. I name two of them. Who's the third? 20 00:01:16,760 --> 00:01:20,000 Speaker 2: Wow, do not look it up, Taylor. I know you're 21 00:01:20,240 --> 00:01:21,679 Speaker 2: there to look it up. Don't do it. 22 00:01:22,600 --> 00:01:27,600 Speaker 4: The third he gave you two true justice. 23 00:01:28,280 --> 00:01:31,240 Speaker 3: No. No, his name is Chris Hamburger. He played for 24 00:01:31,280 --> 00:01:34,840 Speaker 3: the Washington Redskins. He was number fifty five, he's in 25 00:01:34,880 --> 00:01:38,840 Speaker 3: the He's he was one of the great Carolina players. 26 00:01:38,880 --> 00:01:42,480 Speaker 3: But again, we've done nothing as a university to honor 27 00:01:42,560 --> 00:01:45,319 Speaker 3: him or to attribute him. And that's part of our problem. 28 00:01:45,400 --> 00:01:47,360 Speaker 3: And that's something Coach Belichick and I are going to 29 00:01:47,360 --> 00:01:50,240 Speaker 3: bring back, is to make sure there is history here 30 00:01:50,280 --> 00:01:53,640 Speaker 3: at football in North Carolina. But unfortunately we haven't talked 31 00:01:53,640 --> 00:01:53,960 Speaker 3: about it. 32 00:01:54,520 --> 00:01:56,880 Speaker 2: How about we get Taylor's jersey in the hallways there? 33 00:01:56,880 --> 00:01:57,400 Speaker 2: What do you think? 34 00:01:57,800 --> 00:01:58,240 Speaker 3: There? You go? 35 00:01:58,320 --> 00:02:01,760 Speaker 2: I love it. I have extras, of course you do. 36 00:02:02,280 --> 00:02:03,120 Speaker 2: That's all you have. 37 00:02:05,000 --> 00:02:11,240 Speaker 4: Clean you can eat off it if you want to send. 38 00:02:13,919 --> 00:02:16,240 Speaker 1: Taylor, I will promote the book and then go ahead, 39 00:02:16,480 --> 00:02:17,359 Speaker 1: mikey A are here. 40 00:02:17,560 --> 00:02:20,280 Speaker 2: We're both here for you. Okay, football done right. 41 00:02:20,639 --> 00:02:23,679 Speaker 1: It is out in paperback right now wherever you buy 42 00:02:23,720 --> 00:02:24,240 Speaker 1: your books. 43 00:02:24,480 --> 00:02:26,840 Speaker 2: Taylor, go ahead. The floor is yours. I'm going to 44 00:02:26,919 --> 00:02:28,200 Speaker 2: ask him about the book at the end. 45 00:02:28,320 --> 00:02:28,440 Speaker 3: Here. 46 00:02:28,480 --> 00:02:30,280 Speaker 2: Okay, make sure you ask all the questions you want 47 00:02:30,280 --> 00:02:30,640 Speaker 2: to ask. 48 00:02:31,120 --> 00:02:33,600 Speaker 4: So the debate here was how in depth do I 49 00:02:33,639 --> 00:02:37,000 Speaker 4: get with my North Carolina questions? Because I love North Carolina. 50 00:02:37,000 --> 00:02:39,000 Speaker 4: I could talk about North Carolina all day. I'm going 51 00:02:39,040 --> 00:02:41,520 Speaker 4: to start with more of a general question. With Bill 52 00:02:41,600 --> 00:02:44,360 Speaker 4: coming to Chapel Hill, what have you kind of seen 53 00:02:44,440 --> 00:02:47,160 Speaker 4: as the challenges when you're you're bringing in a transfer 54 00:02:47,160 --> 00:02:49,400 Speaker 4: portal class of over forty players. 55 00:02:49,720 --> 00:02:51,280 Speaker 3: Well, I mean the challenge is how do you get 56 00:02:51,320 --> 00:02:53,480 Speaker 3: your team together? It's so different than the NFL, right, 57 00:02:53,520 --> 00:02:56,760 Speaker 3: I mean the NFL you deal with fifty sixty three 58 00:02:56,800 --> 00:02:59,680 Speaker 3: players counting your practice squad, you know, and there's a 59 00:02:59,720 --> 00:03:02,400 Speaker 3: pretty much a fifty percent turnover on that. When you 60 00:03:02,440 --> 00:03:05,200 Speaker 3: get into the season, you have many camps to help 61 00:03:05,240 --> 00:03:08,000 Speaker 3: you bond the team, but you have for three preseason 62 00:03:08,000 --> 00:03:10,760 Speaker 3: games to get going. So I think that's the challenge. 63 00:03:10,800 --> 00:03:13,280 Speaker 3: You know, we got twenty six days before we play TCU. 64 00:03:13,720 --> 00:03:17,280 Speaker 3: Will we be perfect against TCU? Probably not. We're a 65 00:03:17,320 --> 00:03:20,600 Speaker 3: team that's coming together, but we will get better every 66 00:03:20,600 --> 00:03:23,320 Speaker 3: single day. The players are working hard and it's been 67 00:03:23,360 --> 00:03:27,520 Speaker 3: fun to watch the camaraderie of a team that didn't 68 00:03:27,520 --> 00:03:29,160 Speaker 3: really know each other. But I think a lot of 69 00:03:29,200 --> 00:03:32,840 Speaker 3: it is because of the Goo Lopez, who we were 70 00:03:32,880 --> 00:03:35,280 Speaker 3: able to sign from each twenty went into portal after 71 00:03:35,360 --> 00:03:39,160 Speaker 3: going to South Alabama. You know, players can bring players together. 72 00:03:39,280 --> 00:03:41,400 Speaker 3: I mean last year at North Carolina they had all 73 00:03:41,440 --> 00:03:43,920 Speaker 3: their defense for seniors, so you would say, well, they 74 00:03:43,920 --> 00:03:46,360 Speaker 3: probably were great on defense, they had continuity, they had 75 00:03:46,360 --> 00:03:48,840 Speaker 3: the same team. They were horrible on defense. They get 76 00:03:48,920 --> 00:03:52,880 Speaker 3: up seventy points to James Madison. So it isn't about continuity. 77 00:03:52,920 --> 00:03:55,880 Speaker 3: It's about getting the players to buy into the program. 78 00:03:56,640 --> 00:04:01,440 Speaker 4: With so much turnover on that that defense, especially up front, 79 00:04:01,560 --> 00:04:04,520 Speaker 4: you guys are replacing the entire front for that defense, 80 00:04:04,800 --> 00:04:06,920 Speaker 4: how do you kind of lean on guys like Andrew 81 00:04:06,920 --> 00:04:10,600 Speaker 4: Simpson at linebacker and your duo at corner, which can 82 00:04:10,640 --> 00:04:13,520 Speaker 4: go toe to toe with about any corner duo in 83 00:04:13,560 --> 00:04:15,640 Speaker 4: the country. Intat Dixon and Mark Sallen. 84 00:04:16,080 --> 00:04:18,880 Speaker 3: Yeah. Well, I mean, look, we've added some Leroy Jackson 85 00:04:18,880 --> 00:04:20,880 Speaker 3: played here last year. He didn't play, but he's a 86 00:04:20,920 --> 00:04:21,560 Speaker 3: young player. 87 00:04:22,320 --> 00:04:22,560 Speaker 5: C J. 88 00:04:22,760 --> 00:04:26,200 Speaker 3: Smims. We got from East Carolina DeAndre Robinson. We were 89 00:04:26,240 --> 00:04:30,240 Speaker 3: able to able to get him from Florida when he 90 00:04:30,279 --> 00:04:32,919 Speaker 3: went into the portal and so that those are big 91 00:04:32,960 --> 00:04:34,839 Speaker 3: things for us. And then of course we got Smith 92 00:04:34,839 --> 00:04:39,080 Speaker 3: Wilber from Penn State. We got one of his teammates 93 00:04:39,120 --> 00:04:42,760 Speaker 3: from Penn State. He joined them so we actually feel 94 00:04:42,760 --> 00:04:45,240 Speaker 3: like our front seven is a lot different than what 95 00:04:45,320 --> 00:04:47,680 Speaker 3: our front seven looked like in the spring. Which look, 96 00:04:47,720 --> 00:04:50,040 Speaker 3: here's the reality of our team. When Bill and I 97 00:04:50,080 --> 00:04:52,040 Speaker 3: got here in December, we said, we're going to build 98 00:04:52,200 --> 00:04:54,960 Speaker 3: a team that's smart, tough, and dependable, and we're going 99 00:04:55,040 --> 00:04:57,560 Speaker 3: to want to control the middle of the field and 100 00:04:57,880 --> 00:05:00,719 Speaker 3: dominate in both offensive and defensive line. And if you look, 101 00:05:00,839 --> 00:05:02,840 Speaker 3: that's where we put all our money. 102 00:05:02,960 --> 00:05:04,960 Speaker 1: Mike, you were nice enough to join us right after 103 00:05:05,000 --> 00:05:08,000 Speaker 1: you took the job, and we were discussing the differences 104 00:05:08,080 --> 00:05:10,320 Speaker 1: between college football, and tell you you did a great 105 00:05:10,360 --> 00:05:14,960 Speaker 1: job there college football and the NFL. But since then, 106 00:05:15,040 --> 00:05:17,400 Speaker 1: from that time, the last time you joined us until now, 107 00:05:17,440 --> 00:05:19,520 Speaker 1: have you learned anything more about? The difference is just 108 00:05:19,600 --> 00:05:22,599 Speaker 1: how different the college game is as opposed to the NFL. 109 00:05:22,960 --> 00:05:26,640 Speaker 3: It's really not much different, John, I mean it's similar. 110 00:05:26,920 --> 00:05:30,920 Speaker 3: The difference lies in I have to work on three 111 00:05:31,000 --> 00:05:34,240 Speaker 3: recruiting class twenty six, twenty seven, twenty eight, and then 112 00:05:34,279 --> 00:05:36,480 Speaker 3: the portal I've got too many, I've got more balls 113 00:05:36,480 --> 00:05:39,680 Speaker 3: in the air. The other difference is if I lose 114 00:05:39,920 --> 00:05:41,840 Speaker 3: a player in high school and he decides to go 115 00:05:41,839 --> 00:05:46,279 Speaker 3: to another school, heck, I got five other five stars 116 00:05:46,279 --> 00:05:47,839 Speaker 3: in the NFL. If I lose a guy that was 117 00:05:47,839 --> 00:05:50,120 Speaker 3: going to draft in the second round, I can't replace them. 118 00:05:50,480 --> 00:05:53,760 Speaker 3: So there's a lot more there's a lot more inventory 119 00:05:53,839 --> 00:05:57,960 Speaker 3: with the players here. The difference is obviously, you know, 120 00:05:58,279 --> 00:06:01,160 Speaker 3: there's no collective barring and green which has made it. 121 00:06:01,480 --> 00:06:03,839 Speaker 3: There's not a lot of rules. And so you know, 122 00:06:03,880 --> 00:06:07,560 Speaker 3: we signed a player the first day the portal opened up. 123 00:06:07,600 --> 00:06:10,839 Speaker 3: We signed them to an NIL contract, and you know, 124 00:06:10,920 --> 00:06:14,679 Speaker 3: he signed it, and then Texas came in and convinced 125 00:06:14,720 --> 00:06:16,800 Speaker 3: him to take a trip down there and offered them 126 00:06:16,800 --> 00:06:19,240 Speaker 3: all this stuff, and then he signed with it. Then 127 00:06:19,279 --> 00:06:22,520 Speaker 3: he signed with Texas, And of course there's no enforcement 128 00:06:22,560 --> 00:06:24,960 Speaker 3: of that, Like he's got we own his rights, but 129 00:06:25,040 --> 00:06:27,719 Speaker 3: I couldn't enforce it. The ACC wouldn't enforce it, so 130 00:06:28,040 --> 00:06:29,160 Speaker 3: it became a problem. 131 00:06:30,160 --> 00:06:30,360 Speaker 2: Mike. 132 00:06:30,400 --> 00:06:32,359 Speaker 1: I don't want to put any pressure on you or 133 00:06:32,400 --> 00:06:34,880 Speaker 1: the Carolina football team, but we did win loss. 134 00:06:34,960 --> 00:06:37,080 Speaker 2: Right before you came on, we. 135 00:06:37,120 --> 00:06:40,080 Speaker 1: Were going through your your games and I was predicting 136 00:06:40,120 --> 00:06:42,080 Speaker 1: whether or not you would win or lose that game. 137 00:06:42,160 --> 00:06:44,280 Speaker 2: And I have you at twelve and oh so. 138 00:06:47,440 --> 00:06:49,680 Speaker 3: So as my mom got rest her soul. So that's 139 00:06:49,680 --> 00:06:50,240 Speaker 3: a good thing. 140 00:06:51,920 --> 00:06:55,080 Speaker 1: Wait, would Mike, would you be surprised if, in your 141 00:06:55,160 --> 00:06:58,320 Speaker 1: first season with Bill Belichick at North Carolina, if your 142 00:06:58,320 --> 00:07:00,359 Speaker 1: team made the playoff. 143 00:07:01,240 --> 00:07:03,800 Speaker 3: I'm not even thinking about playoffs. I give you a 144 00:07:03,880 --> 00:07:06,320 Speaker 3: Jim Morrill. I'm thinking no, I'm thinking about having a 145 00:07:06,320 --> 00:07:08,920 Speaker 3: good practice tomorrow. I mean, look, I think what Taylor, 146 00:07:09,040 --> 00:07:11,800 Speaker 3: the question Taylor asks is the most vaalid is how 147 00:07:11,800 --> 00:07:14,560 Speaker 3: do you bring everybody together? You know, how do you 148 00:07:14,680 --> 00:07:17,120 Speaker 3: bond the team? How do you get everybody? You know, 149 00:07:17,240 --> 00:07:19,360 Speaker 3: you're dealing with the quarterback who's never played with the 150 00:07:19,400 --> 00:07:22,080 Speaker 3: receivers before. You're dealing with the running back from the 151 00:07:22,160 --> 00:07:24,960 Speaker 3: University of Michigan Ben Hall, who you know hasn't been 152 00:07:24,960 --> 00:07:28,360 Speaker 3: in this offense. So there's a learning curve. Now we've 153 00:07:28,360 --> 00:07:30,320 Speaker 3: got to speed it up. That's not an excuse, but 154 00:07:30,720 --> 00:07:32,920 Speaker 3: we've got to speed it up. And everybody does. And 155 00:07:33,000 --> 00:07:35,200 Speaker 3: so you know, the faith that I have in coach 156 00:07:35,280 --> 00:07:38,160 Speaker 3: Belichick is to coach the team and to get the team, 157 00:07:38,440 --> 00:07:39,960 Speaker 3: you know, to be in the right place at the 158 00:07:40,000 --> 00:07:41,640 Speaker 3: right time. We're going to get better as the year 159 00:07:41,680 --> 00:07:44,360 Speaker 3: goes on. I think if you look at Bill's septembers, 160 00:07:44,680 --> 00:07:47,080 Speaker 3: I think he was very good at building his team 161 00:07:47,200 --> 00:07:48,640 Speaker 3: so that by the end of the year they were 162 00:07:48,680 --> 00:07:49,400 Speaker 3: really hard to beat. 163 00:07:50,200 --> 00:07:52,520 Speaker 1: Mike, talk about the book Football Done Right, available and 164 00:07:52,560 --> 00:07:54,240 Speaker 1: paperback anywhere you buy your books. 165 00:07:54,520 --> 00:07:55,360 Speaker 2: Talk about it please. 166 00:07:55,600 --> 00:07:58,440 Speaker 3: Well, you know, it started out to me is and 167 00:07:58,520 --> 00:08:00,680 Speaker 3: I didn't realize that Larry David did it, but he 168 00:08:00,760 --> 00:08:03,240 Speaker 3: kind of gave me the idea that he had in 169 00:08:03,280 --> 00:08:06,240 Speaker 3: one of his TV shows called The Middler, where whoever 170 00:08:06,280 --> 00:08:08,360 Speaker 3: sits at the middle of a dinner party has to 171 00:08:08,480 --> 00:08:11,480 Speaker 3: stir a conversation for the whole thing. Well, that was 172 00:08:11,600 --> 00:08:14,880 Speaker 3: really the basis of this book, you know. I mean, 173 00:08:15,000 --> 00:08:17,320 Speaker 3: Larry didn't give me the idea, but when I saw 174 00:08:17,360 --> 00:08:19,760 Speaker 3: that episode, I said, that's why I wrote Football Done Right. 175 00:08:19,800 --> 00:08:22,160 Speaker 3: You know. It's like I wanted to have a conversation, 176 00:08:22,240 --> 00:08:24,400 Speaker 3: and part of it was Sterling Sharp. I thought it 177 00:08:24,440 --> 00:08:27,360 Speaker 3: was a complete injustice having played against Sterling, that he 178 00:08:27,440 --> 00:08:28,960 Speaker 3: was never in the Hall of Fame, and I wrote 179 00:08:29,000 --> 00:08:30,920 Speaker 3: about it in this book, and two years later he 180 00:08:30,960 --> 00:08:33,880 Speaker 3: got in the Hall. But for example, there's so many 181 00:08:34,040 --> 00:08:37,120 Speaker 3: great coaches that aren't even getting a sniff to get 182 00:08:37,320 --> 00:08:41,200 Speaker 3: Marty Schottenheimer. Think about this. Marty Schottenheimer won two hundred 183 00:08:41,320 --> 00:08:45,920 Speaker 3: regular season games. There's only eight other people, including Marty. 184 00:08:45,960 --> 00:08:48,720 Speaker 3: That's nine people out of the five hundred and ninety 185 00:08:48,720 --> 00:08:51,199 Speaker 3: people that have called themselves head coaches in the NFL 186 00:08:51,440 --> 00:08:54,360 Speaker 3: that have won not two hundred regular season games, nine 187 00:08:55,040 --> 00:08:58,880 Speaker 3: nine And he can't even get a sniff. Meanwhile, George 188 00:08:58,880 --> 00:09:01,960 Speaker 3: Allen coached ten years, went lost the Super Bowl. He's 189 00:09:02,000 --> 00:09:03,920 Speaker 3: in the Hall of Fame. They say, well, you have 190 00:09:03,960 --> 00:09:06,720 Speaker 3: to go to the super Bowl. Okay, you know, Dan 191 00:09:06,840 --> 00:09:10,040 Speaker 3: Reeves went to multiple Super Bowls with teams Atlanta to 192 00:09:10,240 --> 00:09:12,559 Speaker 3: at Denver. He can't get in, and he's won two 193 00:09:12,600 --> 00:09:17,360 Speaker 3: hundred games counting his playoff wins. So there's so much hypocritical. 194 00:09:17,400 --> 00:09:20,160 Speaker 3: There's so much change, the stats move the sticks as 195 00:09:20,160 --> 00:09:22,400 Speaker 3: it goes along that I wanted to write a book 196 00:09:22,440 --> 00:09:25,800 Speaker 3: to try to get more thought. Have a criteria for 197 00:09:25,880 --> 00:09:29,000 Speaker 3: the coaches, have a criteria for the players, so that 198 00:09:29,080 --> 00:09:31,520 Speaker 3: we would say, hey, that guy's a Hall of Fame player. 199 00:09:31,679 --> 00:09:33,800 Speaker 3: When you watch, you know, based on what I wrote 200 00:09:33,800 --> 00:09:35,800 Speaker 3: in the book, when you see Mike Tomlin, he's a 201 00:09:35,840 --> 00:09:38,200 Speaker 3: Hall of Fame coach. Pete Carroll, he's a Hall of 202 00:09:38,240 --> 00:09:40,200 Speaker 3: Fame coach. That's what you want to be able to do. 203 00:09:40,240 --> 00:09:42,920 Speaker 3: There's no debate his numbers speak for themselves. 204 00:09:43,840 --> 00:09:45,760 Speaker 1: Mike, Ya, you sent me a text. I like where 205 00:09:45,760 --> 00:09:48,360 Speaker 1: you're headed here, go ahead it say it to Mike. Okay, 206 00:09:48,800 --> 00:09:51,960 Speaker 1: of course, I'm pretty sure, Mike. You just took credit 207 00:09:51,960 --> 00:09:55,000 Speaker 1: for getting Sterling Sharp in the Hall of Fame. And 208 00:09:55,040 --> 00:09:57,360 Speaker 1: the Stu Gotts is strong in you. Yeah, and that's fine. 209 00:09:57,400 --> 00:09:59,079 Speaker 1: By the way, I got Tony Boselli into the Hall 210 00:09:59,080 --> 00:09:59,360 Speaker 1: of Fame. 211 00:10:00,000 --> 00:10:02,200 Speaker 3: Hey, Paselli is a great example. I mean, he only 212 00:10:02,200 --> 00:10:04,360 Speaker 3: played ten years in the league. Now, his uniform never 213 00:10:04,400 --> 00:10:07,080 Speaker 3: got dirty, PISELI. He was always on this free He 214 00:10:07,240 --> 00:10:10,000 Speaker 3: was incredible. I don't dispute the talent, but most of 215 00:10:10,160 --> 00:10:13,960 Speaker 3: but they were using the short career to keep Sterling out. Well, 216 00:10:14,040 --> 00:10:16,640 Speaker 3: Tony only for an offensive lineman, only played ten years 217 00:10:16,679 --> 00:10:19,840 Speaker 3: is light right. But Baselli was a Hall of Fame talent, 218 00:10:19,880 --> 00:10:22,640 Speaker 3: There's no question about that. I don't dispute that. But 219 00:10:22,720 --> 00:10:26,080 Speaker 3: you can't have double standards. You know. They let Terrell 220 00:10:26,200 --> 00:10:29,360 Speaker 3: Davison with seven years and they're telling me Sterling Sharp 221 00:10:29,400 --> 00:10:32,200 Speaker 3: can't get in. So like, Okay, when I drove to 222 00:10:32,240 --> 00:10:34,200 Speaker 3: the stadium, here's what I'll say. When I drove to 223 00:10:34,240 --> 00:10:36,400 Speaker 3: the stadium, I was scared of death. Of Sterling Sharp. 224 00:10:36,400 --> 00:10:38,160 Speaker 3: When I drove to the stadium, I was worried about. 225 00:10:38,200 --> 00:10:40,400 Speaker 3: Tony Piselli to me, there has to you got to 226 00:10:40,400 --> 00:10:43,120 Speaker 3: pass the stadium test. You got to pass a I'm 227 00:10:43,120 --> 00:10:45,400 Speaker 3: going to the game. Who am I worried about? That's 228 00:10:45,400 --> 00:10:46,160 Speaker 3: a Hall of famer. 229 00:10:46,400 --> 00:10:48,400 Speaker 2: Yes, I love that the stadium test. 230 00:10:48,440 --> 00:10:50,920 Speaker 1: I'm driving to the ballgame. I'm driving to the stadium, 231 00:10:51,000 --> 00:10:53,200 Speaker 1: and I'm scared of said player. And if you are 232 00:10:53,240 --> 00:10:55,160 Speaker 1: indeed scared, Mike, he goes to the Hall of Fame. 233 00:10:55,160 --> 00:10:58,280 Speaker 3: I love like Tyreek Hill. Now you're driving the Dolphin game, right, 234 00:10:58,600 --> 00:11:01,200 Speaker 3: you know they're going to talk about all this guy. Hey, 235 00:11:01,480 --> 00:11:03,959 Speaker 3: the guy I'm worried about is one guy. Okay, I'm 236 00:11:03,960 --> 00:11:06,320 Speaker 3: hoping that he I'm hoping he can't he can't find 237 00:11:06,360 --> 00:11:08,160 Speaker 3: his way to the stadium. I'm hoping he got lost, 238 00:11:08,200 --> 00:11:10,800 Speaker 3: he doesn't have ways, you know, because that's the guy. 239 00:11:11,000 --> 00:11:13,199 Speaker 3: You know, that's the guy I'm worried about. That's what 240 00:11:13,320 --> 00:11:14,680 Speaker 3: to me, that's a Hall of Famer. 241 00:11:15,160 --> 00:11:17,440 Speaker 2: Yes, have you ever been worried about a jet player? 242 00:11:19,320 --> 00:11:19,480 Speaker 5: You know? 243 00:11:19,640 --> 00:11:22,600 Speaker 3: My line for Jet fans has always been this. Dean 244 00:11:22,640 --> 00:11:25,000 Speaker 3: Martin had a great line about people that didn't drink, 245 00:11:25,040 --> 00:11:27,000 Speaker 3: He said, You know, I feel sorry for those people 246 00:11:27,040 --> 00:11:29,240 Speaker 3: that don't drink, because when they wake up on Sunday morning, 247 00:11:29,240 --> 00:11:31,400 Speaker 3: that's the best they're gonna feel all day. When the 248 00:11:31,480 --> 00:11:33,800 Speaker 3: Jets wake up on Sunday morning, they're fans, that's the 249 00:11:33,840 --> 00:11:39,120 Speaker 3: best they're gonna feel all day week one. Yes, I mean, 250 00:11:39,200 --> 00:11:41,160 Speaker 3: I don't know if. I mean, I just was reading 251 00:11:41,160 --> 00:11:43,520 Speaker 3: something online where they're you know, you know this. You know. 252 00:11:43,559 --> 00:11:47,959 Speaker 3: The other thing that's comical is how everybody's critiquing practices. 253 00:11:48,080 --> 00:11:50,000 Speaker 3: This guy had a good practice, that guy had a 254 00:11:50,040 --> 00:11:52,520 Speaker 3: bad practice, Like do you even know what you're watching? 255 00:11:52,840 --> 00:11:54,960 Speaker 3: Like you even know what you're watching to critique it? 256 00:11:55,240 --> 00:11:57,160 Speaker 3: You know, I just read Justin Fields has had like 257 00:11:57,200 --> 00:12:00,120 Speaker 3: three horrible practices. You know, how do you know that? 258 00:12:00,240 --> 00:12:02,520 Speaker 3: You know, maybe he's playing with receivers that don't know 259 00:12:02,559 --> 00:12:03,080 Speaker 3: where to go. 260 00:12:03,520 --> 00:12:16,839 Speaker 5: Yeah, who is the best player not in the Hall 261 00:12:16,880 --> 00:12:17,200 Speaker 5: of Fame? 262 00:12:17,320 --> 00:12:21,839 Speaker 3: Like, oh, the best player not in the Hall of Fame? 263 00:12:21,880 --> 00:12:25,439 Speaker 3: That's a great Well, I focus more on the coaches. 264 00:12:26,160 --> 00:12:28,079 Speaker 2: Who's the best coach not in the Hall? Is it Marty? 265 00:12:28,679 --> 00:12:31,120 Speaker 3: I think Marty's deserves to go in there first. I 266 00:12:31,120 --> 00:12:34,280 Speaker 3: think Shanahan, you know, Martin Shanahan won the damn you know, 267 00:12:34,320 --> 00:12:37,280 Speaker 3: he invented the way. He invented the outside zone player. 268 00:12:37,280 --> 00:12:39,839 Speaker 3: How about Clark Shaughnessy, the guy invented the forward pass. 269 00:12:39,840 --> 00:12:42,360 Speaker 3: He can't get in the Hall of Fame. I mean, 270 00:12:42,559 --> 00:12:45,040 Speaker 3: the guy invented the forward pass, and we won't let 271 00:12:45,080 --> 00:12:46,800 Speaker 3: him in the Hall of Fame. I mean, there's so 272 00:12:46,880 --> 00:12:50,280 Speaker 3: many guys that I think I wrote about Ron uh 273 00:12:50,480 --> 00:12:52,640 Speaker 3: Ron George of the book The tight End for the Packers. 274 00:12:52,840 --> 00:12:54,680 Speaker 3: You know, I think he belongs in there. You know, 275 00:12:54,720 --> 00:12:56,600 Speaker 3: he was all, he was everything. I mean, he played 276 00:12:56,600 --> 00:12:59,040 Speaker 3: on the basketball team at Michigan. You know. Now he 277 00:12:59,200 --> 00:13:01,800 Speaker 3: left to go to Detroit because of some marital issues. 278 00:13:01,800 --> 00:13:03,920 Speaker 3: He had to go back. Then they let you go 279 00:13:04,040 --> 00:13:06,720 Speaker 3: because he had problems. But to me, he was the 280 00:13:06,720 --> 00:13:09,000 Speaker 3: reason the Green Bay sweep was so effective? 281 00:13:09,559 --> 00:13:10,920 Speaker 2: Is he Andrew Lucke Hall of Famer? 282 00:13:11,520 --> 00:13:12,920 Speaker 3: I don't think he played long enough. 283 00:13:13,080 --> 00:13:15,439 Speaker 1: You're right, yeah, probably, And I'll tell you one thing, 284 00:13:16,080 --> 00:13:18,719 Speaker 1: Andrew Luck's a wonderful player, but I think there was 285 00:13:18,760 --> 00:13:20,840 Speaker 1: a lot of dbs that dropped a lot of passes 286 00:13:20,880 --> 00:13:21,160 Speaker 1: on him. 287 00:13:21,640 --> 00:13:22,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, yep. 288 00:13:22,800 --> 00:13:25,280 Speaker 1: Taylor has a question about the Carolina quarterback situation and 289 00:13:25,400 --> 00:13:27,000 Speaker 1: has it in to let him do it, But go ahead, Tyley. 290 00:13:27,280 --> 00:13:29,559 Speaker 4: Well, first off, good nudes for Michael. I have two 291 00:13:29,679 --> 00:13:30,760 Speaker 4: jerseys to choose from. 292 00:13:30,800 --> 00:13:31,120 Speaker 2: Michael. 293 00:13:31,840 --> 00:13:34,760 Speaker 4: I have this jersey, the White do that, or we 294 00:13:34,800 --> 00:13:37,880 Speaker 4: could go classic Carolina blue. You can't beat the class 295 00:13:37,880 --> 00:13:38,400 Speaker 4: of Carolina. 296 00:13:38,600 --> 00:13:40,280 Speaker 3: You can't beat the CA I mean, you will not 297 00:13:40,440 --> 00:13:44,160 Speaker 3: see us in black Taylor, not gonna happen. That's not 298 00:13:44,240 --> 00:13:47,680 Speaker 3: our colors. Our colors are Carolina blue with dark blue, 299 00:13:47,840 --> 00:13:50,040 Speaker 3: and so that's what we're gonna be, you know, And 300 00:13:50,120 --> 00:13:53,680 Speaker 3: so you know, look, the Yankees don't change our uniforms, right, 301 00:13:54,080 --> 00:13:57,200 Speaker 3: the Celtics don't change our youth. I know everybody, We're 302 00:13:57,200 --> 00:13:59,520 Speaker 3: not Oregon. We're gonna be who we are, and so 303 00:13:59,800 --> 00:14:01,439 Speaker 3: those uniforms will stay in effect. 304 00:14:01,880 --> 00:14:05,240 Speaker 4: The retro jerseys for Carolina too unbelievable. Maybe maybe the 305 00:14:05,240 --> 00:14:07,360 Speaker 4: best jersey in all of college football. 306 00:14:07,880 --> 00:14:10,600 Speaker 3: I'm best colors. I mean, look, one thing we're gonna 307 00:14:10,640 --> 00:14:12,959 Speaker 3: do is we're gonna wear We've ordered him. I don't 308 00:14:12,960 --> 00:14:14,079 Speaker 3: know if we could do it this year, but I 309 00:14:14,120 --> 00:14:18,000 Speaker 3: think next year we've ordered the jerseys for so we're 310 00:14:18,000 --> 00:14:21,160 Speaker 3: gonna be in Uh, We're gonna wear Lawrence Taylor's with 311 00:14:21,240 --> 00:14:23,160 Speaker 3: the year he played. We're gonna wear that uniform. 312 00:14:23,440 --> 00:14:27,080 Speaker 2: Oh that's awesome, right, not you, Taylor, Lawrence Taylor, go ahead. 313 00:14:27,560 --> 00:14:29,600 Speaker 4: What do you What do you like about go Lopis's 314 00:14:29,640 --> 00:14:32,600 Speaker 4: game and how you think it could translate going up 315 00:14:32,640 --> 00:14:33,800 Speaker 4: from the G five level. 316 00:14:34,360 --> 00:14:36,640 Speaker 3: Well, I mean, I think he's really accurate. He's got 317 00:14:36,720 --> 00:14:38,880 Speaker 3: you know, he can run with the football. He's very quick, 318 00:14:38,960 --> 00:14:41,320 Speaker 3: he's explosive. You go back and watch him play against LSU. 319 00:14:41,680 --> 00:14:44,080 Speaker 3: He was a real factor in that game. South Alabama 320 00:14:44,160 --> 00:14:46,600 Speaker 3: played LSU fairly tough in the game. He made a 321 00:14:46,600 --> 00:14:49,680 Speaker 3: lot of throws. I think he's got great rhythm, great timing, 322 00:14:49,840 --> 00:14:53,120 Speaker 3: and he's a great human being. His leadership is really 323 00:14:53,160 --> 00:14:56,040 Speaker 3: important to our team. He's exactly the kind of player 324 00:14:56,520 --> 00:14:59,600 Speaker 3: that that you want to build around. And along with 325 00:14:59,680 --> 00:15:02,240 Speaker 3: Max Johnson, who's competing with him for the starting job, 326 00:15:02,280 --> 00:15:04,920 Speaker 3: who played you know at Texas A and M and 327 00:15:04,960 --> 00:15:07,760 Speaker 3: he played at LSU. He broke his leg last year unfortunately, 328 00:15:08,080 --> 00:15:10,280 Speaker 3: So I think part of what you're when you you 329 00:15:10,400 --> 00:15:13,440 Speaker 3: have to get leadership from your quarterback position. If you don't, 330 00:15:13,640 --> 00:15:15,560 Speaker 3: it's hard to have a team bond together. 331 00:15:16,640 --> 00:15:19,320 Speaker 4: Who's the player that people aren't talking about now that 332 00:15:19,440 --> 00:15:22,080 Speaker 4: once the season starts, they'll be like, Wow, this guy 333 00:15:22,120 --> 00:15:22,600 Speaker 4: is special. 334 00:15:23,600 --> 00:15:25,720 Speaker 3: I think Ben Hall, the running back from Michigan's really 335 00:15:25,720 --> 00:15:27,640 Speaker 3: a good player. I mean, you know, he ran the 336 00:15:27,680 --> 00:15:30,320 Speaker 3: ball like twenty some times against Alabama. I think got 337 00:15:30,320 --> 00:15:32,160 Speaker 3: like ay, it was hard, it was tough sledding in 338 00:15:32,200 --> 00:15:35,320 Speaker 3: that game. But he's a really talented runner that I 339 00:15:35,360 --> 00:15:38,080 Speaker 3: think he could make a huge difference to go along 340 00:15:38,080 --> 00:15:41,360 Speaker 3: with Caleb Hood bullet Geist. I mean, we've got some 341 00:15:41,520 --> 00:15:44,880 Speaker 3: there's some backs here. Hampton was tremendous last year, obviously 342 00:15:44,920 --> 00:15:47,040 Speaker 3: being a first round pick up, the of that of 343 00:15:47,120 --> 00:15:50,120 Speaker 3: the Chargers, and then I think the defensively, we've got 344 00:15:50,120 --> 00:15:52,440 Speaker 3: some you know, our two corners, as you mentioned, have 345 00:15:52,520 --> 00:15:54,320 Speaker 3: a chance to be really good. And when we locked 346 00:15:54,360 --> 00:15:56,680 Speaker 3: down and play samana Man and Coach Belichick's defense, I 347 00:15:56,680 --> 00:15:57,600 Speaker 3: think that will shine. 348 00:15:57,960 --> 00:15:59,800 Speaker 2: Mike, how do you and Bill like being around to 349 00:16:00,000 --> 00:16:00,560 Speaker 2: college camping? 350 00:16:00,560 --> 00:16:03,040 Speaker 1: You've known Bill for such a long time, and I 351 00:16:03,080 --> 00:16:05,880 Speaker 1: am wondering how you like being around a college campus. 352 00:16:05,920 --> 00:16:07,800 Speaker 2: It has to be fun, right, Oh my god. 353 00:16:07,840 --> 00:16:10,080 Speaker 3: I got a phone call from somebody in the government 354 00:16:10,200 --> 00:16:12,800 Speaker 3: and said who knows me and read by books and 355 00:16:13,240 --> 00:16:16,080 Speaker 3: knows Bill as well. And he said that the first 356 00:16:16,160 --> 00:16:18,480 Speaker 3: question he asked me, He said, is he as happy 357 00:16:18,480 --> 00:16:20,600 Speaker 3: as he appears? Because he saw him at the end, 358 00:16:20,600 --> 00:16:22,680 Speaker 3: And I said, I think he loves it. He does. 359 00:16:22,720 --> 00:16:24,560 Speaker 3: I mean, look, we don't have to worry about some 360 00:16:24,640 --> 00:16:26,680 Speaker 3: owner's son walking in here and telling us that the 361 00:16:26,720 --> 00:16:29,880 Speaker 3: analytical department thinks we should draft this player. You know, 362 00:16:30,120 --> 00:16:32,720 Speaker 3: we don't have to worry about some cap guy telling 363 00:16:32,800 --> 00:16:35,480 Speaker 3: us we can't sign somebody. You know, we don't have 364 00:16:35,520 --> 00:16:37,760 Speaker 3: to worry about, you know, who we have to hire 365 00:16:37,800 --> 00:16:39,480 Speaker 3: and who we don't have to hire. And you know, 366 00:16:39,640 --> 00:16:41,880 Speaker 3: and so I think to me, it's he can run 367 00:16:41,880 --> 00:16:44,680 Speaker 3: his program. The NFL is there's a lot of people. 368 00:16:44,800 --> 00:16:48,560 Speaker 3: You know, it's challenging. You know, you got to it's 369 00:16:48,600 --> 00:16:50,960 Speaker 3: hard to get everybody on the same page in the NFL. 370 00:16:51,000 --> 00:16:53,080 Speaker 3: I mean, look, you could just see it with the teams. 371 00:16:53,920 --> 00:16:56,120 Speaker 2: Were you talking about Tony conn there? What was happening? 372 00:16:56,160 --> 00:17:01,520 Speaker 3: I mean, I mean, look, you know they've had a 373 00:17:01,560 --> 00:17:04,080 Speaker 3: track record of not winning. I mean, let's face it. 374 00:17:04,119 --> 00:17:05,680 Speaker 3: I mean that franchise has got to be one of 375 00:17:05,680 --> 00:17:08,440 Speaker 3: the losing his franchise. Now, maybe this administration will turn 376 00:17:08,480 --> 00:17:10,160 Speaker 3: it around. We shall see. 377 00:17:10,440 --> 00:17:13,080 Speaker 2: Well, Bisselli's back in charge, so hopefully they will. We'll 378 00:17:13,080 --> 00:17:14,360 Speaker 2: see what happens. Mike. 379 00:17:14,400 --> 00:17:15,800 Speaker 1: We want to make sure you're going to the right 380 00:17:15,840 --> 00:17:18,720 Speaker 1: places in Chapel Hill. Taylor is a cagey vet. He 381 00:17:18,760 --> 00:17:20,880 Speaker 1: has spent many, many years in Chapel Hill. 382 00:17:20,960 --> 00:17:21,240 Speaker 2: Soup. 383 00:17:21,680 --> 00:17:26,200 Speaker 1: When Mike Lombardi just wants a good cheeseburger, where does he. 384 00:17:26,200 --> 00:17:27,160 Speaker 2: Go in Chapel Hill? 385 00:17:29,240 --> 00:17:30,400 Speaker 4: You gotta go to als. 386 00:17:30,640 --> 00:17:32,840 Speaker 2: Okay, Mike, have you been? Now's do you are? 387 00:17:32,840 --> 00:17:36,119 Speaker 3: You announce? I know he's got multiple locations. 388 00:17:36,480 --> 00:17:36,840 Speaker 2: Okay. 389 00:17:37,640 --> 00:17:39,720 Speaker 1: When Mike Lombardi, so, I'm going to ask you, Mike, 390 00:17:39,760 --> 00:17:42,119 Speaker 1: and you give your answer and Taylor will correct you 391 00:17:42,160 --> 00:17:43,760 Speaker 1: if you're not going to the correct place. 392 00:17:43,760 --> 00:17:44,080 Speaker 2: Okay. 393 00:17:44,320 --> 00:17:46,800 Speaker 1: When Mike Lombardi wants to sit down, get a little 394 00:17:46,800 --> 00:17:49,280 Speaker 1: piece and quiet and have a cold beer, where does he. 395 00:17:49,240 --> 00:17:53,800 Speaker 3: Go for me? You know, I probably go to the 396 00:17:53,840 --> 00:17:54,560 Speaker 3: top of the hill. 397 00:17:55,240 --> 00:17:58,960 Speaker 4: Wow, nail, he nailed the Tapa. You can't be used 398 00:17:59,000 --> 00:18:02,159 Speaker 4: from topo over to the street. It's beautiful, all right. 399 00:18:02,160 --> 00:18:04,840 Speaker 1: When Mike Lombardi wants to go see some live music, 400 00:18:04,960 --> 00:18:07,600 Speaker 1: where does Mike Mike Lombardi go in Chapel Hill. 401 00:18:08,440 --> 00:18:10,080 Speaker 3: That would be a hard one. I don't know. I 402 00:18:10,080 --> 00:18:12,320 Speaker 3: haven't I haven't been out to see love music. I 403 00:18:12,320 --> 00:18:14,359 Speaker 3: have a hard time staying up past ten o'clock, So 404 00:18:14,400 --> 00:18:16,760 Speaker 3: I don't know where would I go? Taylor, I have 405 00:18:16,840 --> 00:18:18,000 Speaker 3: no idea on that one. 406 00:18:18,240 --> 00:18:19,199 Speaker 4: That's tougher. 407 00:18:19,320 --> 00:18:20,080 Speaker 2: That's more like. 408 00:18:22,080 --> 00:18:24,800 Speaker 4: I'm trying to think, like nobody really comes to perform 409 00:18:24,880 --> 00:18:30,840 Speaker 4: at Chapel Hill, but maybe like the lawn on the 410 00:18:30,920 --> 00:18:34,000 Speaker 4: Carolina In, like oh yeah, like a like a Friday 411 00:18:34,080 --> 00:18:35,359 Speaker 4: night at the Carolina Inn. 412 00:18:35,560 --> 00:18:38,040 Speaker 2: Well yeah, means. 413 00:18:37,840 --> 00:18:40,200 Speaker 3: You're a nicer spot. I mean, like you feel like here. 414 00:18:40,560 --> 00:18:43,720 Speaker 3: It's an incredible venue, right the Carolina In. It's unbelievable. 415 00:18:44,080 --> 00:18:46,120 Speaker 4: Me you, Tate Fraser, we can all we can all go. 416 00:18:46,080 --> 00:18:48,920 Speaker 3: And hang out. The greatest, the great, the great, Tate Fraser, 417 00:18:48,920 --> 00:18:51,280 Speaker 3: the next gym Nance. That's who. That's who. Tate Fraser 418 00:18:51,320 --> 00:18:52,639 Speaker 3: is going to be the next gym Nance. 419 00:18:53,040 --> 00:18:53,280 Speaker 2: Michae. 420 00:18:53,280 --> 00:18:55,800 Speaker 1: Listen, we want to be the flagship podcast for North 421 00:18:55,800 --> 00:18:58,399 Speaker 1: Carolina football. Can we make this happen? We want to 422 00:18:58,400 --> 00:19:00,000 Speaker 1: come up there. We want to have you and Bill 423 00:19:00,200 --> 00:19:00,720 Speaker 1: every week. 424 00:19:00,760 --> 00:19:02,919 Speaker 2: We want to celebrate what is going to be an 425 00:19:02,960 --> 00:19:04,359 Speaker 2: undefeated season. Can we do it? 426 00:19:04,600 --> 00:19:08,199 Speaker 3: Stop? Stop though, You're welcome to come up anytime you like, 427 00:19:08,280 --> 00:19:11,320 Speaker 3: but let's talk about just to win in the day tomorrow. 428 00:19:11,320 --> 00:19:13,200 Speaker 3: That's the most important thing, all right. 429 00:19:13,200 --> 00:19:15,240 Speaker 1: But if we want to come up and broadcast from 430 00:19:15,240 --> 00:19:17,200 Speaker 1: a game and have Taylor there and you know. 431 00:19:17,560 --> 00:19:19,320 Speaker 3: You, come on up, come on up, We'll make sure 432 00:19:19,320 --> 00:19:20,000 Speaker 3: we take care of you. 433 00:19:20,320 --> 00:19:21,440 Speaker 2: All right. This is so great. 434 00:19:21,840 --> 00:19:24,120 Speaker 1: Buy his book Football Done Right. It's out in paperback 435 00:19:24,160 --> 00:19:26,840 Speaker 1: wherever books are sold. We have one final question for you. 436 00:19:26,960 --> 00:19:30,439 Speaker 1: Drive for your life. Okay, drive for your life. You 437 00:19:30,520 --> 00:19:33,120 Speaker 1: have to pick one of these two quarterbacks. You are 438 00:19:33,200 --> 00:19:38,080 Speaker 1: down by six super Bowl first and ten eighty yards 439 00:19:38,119 --> 00:19:40,280 Speaker 1: to go one time out. 440 00:19:40,600 --> 00:19:44,360 Speaker 2: You could choose between Tom Brady and Patrick Mahomes. Who 441 00:19:44,400 --> 00:19:44,919 Speaker 2: you take it? 442 00:19:45,359 --> 00:19:45,760 Speaker 3: Brady? 443 00:19:46,200 --> 00:19:48,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, you're living, you are You're. 444 00:19:48,720 --> 00:19:51,840 Speaker 3: Gonna ask me Montana or Brady? That would have been harder. 445 00:19:52,280 --> 00:19:53,760 Speaker 2: Okay, well let's try it out. 446 00:19:53,920 --> 00:19:58,800 Speaker 1: Montana or harder than Mahomes. Wow, Montana or Brady? 447 00:19:58,880 --> 00:19:59,040 Speaker 2: Who? 448 00:19:59,400 --> 00:20:01,919 Speaker 3: I would still tick Tommy, but I it would be 449 00:20:02,000 --> 00:20:04,800 Speaker 3: really I mean, Montana has a special place in my heart. 450 00:20:05,440 --> 00:20:08,919 Speaker 3: I mean, you know he just said. I mean, you know, 451 00:20:08,960 --> 00:20:12,440 Speaker 3: I'm old, so I have these memories now, and I 452 00:20:12,560 --> 00:20:14,639 Speaker 3: was young. I was a young guy at the forty 453 00:20:14,720 --> 00:20:16,800 Speaker 3: nine ers, and we would have practice at Rockland and 454 00:20:17,640 --> 00:20:19,679 Speaker 3: we'd be out there from eight thirty to like eleven 455 00:20:19,800 --> 00:20:22,320 Speaker 3: fifteen and go grab lunch. That at like one o'clock, 456 00:20:22,920 --> 00:20:25,920 Speaker 3: half the team would be in the pool playing pool basketball. 457 00:20:26,080 --> 00:20:29,439 Speaker 3: And you would have thought between Joe and Dwight that 458 00:20:29,480 --> 00:20:31,679 Speaker 3: they were playing the super Bowl. It was so competitive. 459 00:20:31,720 --> 00:20:33,119 Speaker 3: I mean, that's just who Joe. 460 00:20:32,960 --> 00:20:35,399 Speaker 2: Is, right, So you take my town over Mahomes. I 461 00:20:35,480 --> 00:20:35,720 Speaker 2: like that. 462 00:20:36,280 --> 00:20:38,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I take Joe over. I take Joe 463 00:20:38,760 --> 00:20:41,160 Speaker 3: would be my second. I mean, look, I've been blessed. 464 00:20:41,359 --> 00:20:43,240 Speaker 3: I've been blessed to see two of the greatest of 465 00:20:43,280 --> 00:20:46,359 Speaker 3: all time at their craft. They're different. You know. Joe 466 00:20:46,520 --> 00:20:49,280 Speaker 3: was not a vocal leader, but he was a demanded 467 00:20:49,400 --> 00:20:52,159 Speaker 3: he was he understood what he was doing and he 468 00:20:52,280 --> 00:20:53,680 Speaker 3: could do it at a high, high level. 469 00:20:54,000 --> 00:20:55,879 Speaker 2: I love that you have no time for live music. 470 00:20:56,000 --> 00:20:58,320 Speaker 2: I do. When's the last time you've seen a concert? 471 00:20:58,359 --> 00:20:59,520 Speaker 2: It was Bruce Springsteen. I'm sorry. 472 00:20:59,520 --> 00:21:02,040 Speaker 3: It was Thick in Philly in August twenty third. Yeah 473 00:21:02,080 --> 00:21:06,080 Speaker 3: it was awesome. Yeah, yeah, it was there, you know, 474 00:21:06,200 --> 00:21:08,760 Speaker 3: and so look it's great. I mean I didn't see him. 475 00:21:08,800 --> 00:21:10,960 Speaker 3: He was in Europe on this tour which he played 476 00:21:11,040 --> 00:21:13,280 Speaker 3: Chimes of Freedom, which is one of my favorite songs 477 00:21:13,280 --> 00:21:15,800 Speaker 3: that he does. It's a Dylan tune. But you know, 478 00:21:16,440 --> 00:21:18,879 Speaker 3: he didn't play in this country. But you know, I 479 00:21:18,920 --> 00:21:21,159 Speaker 3: would like to see him do that, but you know 480 00:21:21,240 --> 00:21:23,879 Speaker 3: it's hard. I'm looking forward to. Eric Church is a 481 00:21:24,000 --> 00:21:26,679 Speaker 3: huge North Carolina fantatic. Yes, even though he went to 482 00:21:26,680 --> 00:21:29,320 Speaker 3: that state, but he's tremendous. I was hoping to see 483 00:21:29,359 --> 00:21:31,520 Speaker 3: him at Red Rock. I couldn't make it, but yeah, 484 00:21:31,600 --> 00:21:33,240 Speaker 3: I'll go to that one when he plays. 485 00:21:33,400 --> 00:21:35,280 Speaker 2: All right, Eric Church went to the same camp as me. 486 00:21:35,280 --> 00:21:36,679 Speaker 2: He's a good friend of mine. Just throw my name 487 00:21:36,720 --> 00:21:37,600 Speaker 2: around there, okay. 488 00:21:37,400 --> 00:21:40,480 Speaker 3: Mike, I will. All right, guys, thank you so much. 489 00:21:40,520 --> 00:21:42,960 Speaker 1: Man, Good listen, good luck this season. We appreciate you 490 00:21:43,000 --> 00:21:45,520 Speaker 1: doing this. Football done right. It's out in paperback by 491 00:21:45,520 --> 00:21:48,840 Speaker 1: it wherever books are sold. They congratulations, Thank you wellven 492 00:21:48,880 --> 00:21:51,159 Speaker 1: Nol Lombardy all right, I'll see it. 493 00:21:51,920 --> 00:21:53,240 Speaker 2: Thank you, Mike. We appreciate it.