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As they gave me a chance to the 60 00:02:58,480 --> 00:02:59,320 Speaker 3: opportunity to do. 61 00:02:59,240 --> 00:03:02,799 Speaker 5: It and one of so we were talking about the 62 00:03:02,880 --> 00:03:04,760 Speaker 5: challenges that that come with it. You got to be 63 00:03:04,760 --> 00:03:08,800 Speaker 5: an offense into meetings, you gotta be in defensive meetings. 64 00:03:08,800 --> 00:03:10,079 Speaker 5: You gotta be in wide receiver meetings, you got to 65 00:03:10,080 --> 00:03:12,600 Speaker 5: be in defensive back meetings. How is there enough time 66 00:03:13,200 --> 00:03:14,800 Speaker 5: to do all that? How did you prepare for that 67 00:03:14,840 --> 00:03:15,720 Speaker 5: when you play college? 68 00:03:15,800 --> 00:03:17,680 Speaker 3: Well, we kind of got twenty four hours in the day. 69 00:03:17,720 --> 00:03:19,400 Speaker 3: We probably sleep for by eight and mil so we 70 00:03:19,480 --> 00:03:24,440 Speaker 3: probably got a team more dedicated to the I'm dedicated 71 00:03:24,480 --> 00:03:29,280 Speaker 3: to football, Oh, Joe. 72 00:03:30,280 --> 00:03:32,840 Speaker 2: The issue is not playing both of them? Can you 73 00:03:32,880 --> 00:03:33,600 Speaker 2: play both of them? 74 00:03:33,680 --> 00:03:34,560 Speaker 3: Well? Right? Right? 75 00:03:34,800 --> 00:03:37,120 Speaker 2: Because I can put anybody there to play both sides, 76 00:03:37,200 --> 00:03:38,680 Speaker 2: But how well can they play it? 77 00:03:38,880 --> 00:03:43,880 Speaker 3: Listen? That's it. There's a difference. There's levels. 78 00:03:44,480 --> 00:03:47,480 Speaker 2: There have been great guys in college that couldn't play 79 00:03:47,480 --> 00:03:51,240 Speaker 2: at that next right, And you're asking you because see, 80 00:03:51,240 --> 00:03:53,400 Speaker 2: for me, it don't do him, no for me, for 81 00:03:53,520 --> 00:03:55,760 Speaker 2: him to go out there like, oh, he playing both sides? 82 00:03:55,800 --> 00:04:00,360 Speaker 1: Right? Oh? How well will he play both sides of 83 00:04:00,400 --> 00:04:00,800 Speaker 1: the ball? 84 00:04:02,440 --> 00:04:06,960 Speaker 3: That's the question. Do I believe he gonna play every snap? No, No, 85 00:04:07,520 --> 00:04:10,880 Speaker 3: he's not. You know what I like? I like to believe. 86 00:04:11,840 --> 00:04:13,840 Speaker 1: I like the fact that he believes he can actually 87 00:04:13,880 --> 00:04:16,479 Speaker 1: do it most of the time. That's where it all starts. 88 00:04:16,560 --> 00:04:19,480 Speaker 1: In anything you do in life, believing that you can 89 00:04:19,560 --> 00:04:22,520 Speaker 1: do it, manifesting not only doing that, not only believing 90 00:04:22,560 --> 00:04:26,200 Speaker 1: it and manifesting it then working your way into actually. 91 00:04:25,839 --> 00:04:27,200 Speaker 6: Being able to do it. 92 00:04:27,240 --> 00:04:31,240 Speaker 3: Hasn't been done before, absolutely not, which is why they 93 00:04:31,320 --> 00:04:36,520 Speaker 3: used to play both ways back back sixties. 94 00:04:36,560 --> 00:04:39,400 Speaker 2: I think Chuck McCarrick rested, so was the last two 95 00:04:39,400 --> 00:04:41,680 Speaker 2: way player. He was a middle linebacker and a center 96 00:04:41,680 --> 00:04:44,960 Speaker 2: for the Eagles. He was the last full time two 97 00:04:45,040 --> 00:04:47,400 Speaker 2: way players. Concrete Charlie, and I think. 98 00:04:47,240 --> 00:04:50,720 Speaker 3: One of the reasons why me and you and everyone. 99 00:04:50,320 --> 00:04:55,359 Speaker 1: Else is debuckleing, hit debunking his ability to play full 100 00:04:55,400 --> 00:04:57,800 Speaker 1: time on both sides of the ball is because of 101 00:04:57,839 --> 00:05:02,000 Speaker 1: how much extreme what's the word I'm looking for here. 102 00:05:03,760 --> 00:05:07,080 Speaker 2: It's a physical grind because guess what, he plays both 103 00:05:07,120 --> 00:05:09,159 Speaker 2: sides of the ball. He gets hurts to miss a game. 104 00:05:09,200 --> 00:05:11,720 Speaker 2: Guess what I've got, I'm down two players. 105 00:05:12,080 --> 00:05:17,000 Speaker 6: Yeah, that that that too. Listen, I listen. 106 00:05:17,320 --> 00:05:17,760 Speaker 3: I like. 107 00:05:18,080 --> 00:05:22,600 Speaker 1: I like the confidence though, sure that's part of it. 108 00:05:22,640 --> 00:05:24,560 Speaker 1: That's half the bat is believe. 109 00:05:24,400 --> 00:05:26,600 Speaker 6: Everything you do, believing you can do it. 110 00:05:26,880 --> 00:05:27,760 Speaker 3: Not what I do. 111 00:05:28,120 --> 00:05:29,880 Speaker 1: What I would love for him to do is you 112 00:05:29,960 --> 00:05:31,520 Speaker 1: got to focus on one You got to focus on 113 00:05:31,520 --> 00:05:33,320 Speaker 1: one thing. You got to be You got to be 114 00:05:33,560 --> 00:05:36,159 Speaker 1: great at one thing. You're not gonna be able to 115 00:05:36,160 --> 00:05:38,000 Speaker 1: grade at both. You can't be great at dB and 116 00:05:38,120 --> 00:05:41,960 Speaker 1: great at receiver. You have to become a craftsman at 117 00:05:42,000 --> 00:05:44,440 Speaker 1: one or the other. Now I don't know which one 118 00:05:44,520 --> 00:05:48,760 Speaker 1: is gonna be I'm me personally. I like him playing both. 119 00:05:49,240 --> 00:05:52,040 Speaker 1: I enjoy it. I enjoy watching him play both sides 120 00:05:52,080 --> 00:05:53,720 Speaker 1: of the ball. Will he be able to do it 121 00:05:53,839 --> 00:05:56,719 Speaker 1: at that level, at an elite level, at the next level, 122 00:05:57,000 --> 00:05:57,480 Speaker 1: I don't know. 123 00:05:57,560 --> 00:05:59,080 Speaker 6: That's very, very difficult. 124 00:05:59,120 --> 00:06:01,000 Speaker 1: When you look at the let the talent you're gonna 125 00:06:01,000 --> 00:06:03,000 Speaker 1: have to see week in and week out. 126 00:06:03,839 --> 00:06:04,919 Speaker 3: That's the hard part. 127 00:06:05,880 --> 00:06:10,520 Speaker 6: At the level, the level, the level, the level field evens. 128 00:06:11,720 --> 00:06:13,600 Speaker 3: Everything. There are a lot of guys that just as 129 00:06:13,600 --> 00:06:14,480 Speaker 3: talented as he is. 130 00:06:20,560 --> 00:06:23,080 Speaker 6: Wait say it again, I said. 131 00:06:22,920 --> 00:06:25,000 Speaker 3: There are guys that just as talented. 132 00:06:25,000 --> 00:06:28,120 Speaker 6: Justice talent, there's something that are even more talented. 133 00:06:29,000 --> 00:06:34,000 Speaker 1: Everyone in Jay, everyone in just as fast everyone Justice quick, 134 00:06:34,960 --> 00:06:38,000 Speaker 1: ladder movement, short air quickness. No matter what you everything, 135 00:06:38,080 --> 00:06:41,960 Speaker 1: everybody is exactly the same. There's one thing that separates everybody, 136 00:06:42,640 --> 00:06:46,920 Speaker 1: your technique, and up here it becomes the mental game. 137 00:06:46,960 --> 00:06:50,360 Speaker 3: At that point. I like it though. 138 00:06:50,440 --> 00:06:51,400 Speaker 6: It's exciting. 139 00:06:51,520 --> 00:06:52,400 Speaker 3: I'm curious. 140 00:06:52,440 --> 00:06:54,560 Speaker 1: I'm curious to see where he goes, and not only 141 00:06:54,600 --> 00:06:56,680 Speaker 1: where he goes, but what they allow him to do. 142 00:06:57,080 --> 00:07:00,240 Speaker 3: How are they going to use him? People tell me 143 00:07:00,279 --> 00:07:02,760 Speaker 3: they don't hit in the NFL. Yeah they do, they do. 144 00:07:02,839 --> 00:07:06,640 Speaker 1: Please, I know I know. I know the rules have 145 00:07:06,720 --> 00:07:08,359 Speaker 1: changed a little bit. You know, they can't hit like 146 00:07:08,400 --> 00:07:10,880 Speaker 1: they did during our day, but they still hit that. 147 00:07:12,120 --> 00:07:14,040 Speaker 3: They still hit it. I tell you you know what 148 00:07:14,160 --> 00:07:14,520 Speaker 3: I wish. 149 00:07:14,560 --> 00:07:17,360 Speaker 2: I wish all the fans that say they don't hit, 150 00:07:18,440 --> 00:07:20,720 Speaker 2: they would side a waiver and go out there. 151 00:07:20,800 --> 00:07:24,600 Speaker 1: It's no no no no no no okay, who's. 152 00:07:24,320 --> 00:07:26,520 Speaker 3: The who's the safety? Okay? GJ. 153 00:07:26,640 --> 00:07:31,360 Speaker 1: Watt it's no, no no no, oh Joe. 154 00:07:31,520 --> 00:07:34,600 Speaker 2: They said they don't hit, so I want them to 155 00:07:34,680 --> 00:07:35,360 Speaker 2: go out there. 156 00:07:35,440 --> 00:07:38,080 Speaker 1: It's one thing to watch the game from the stands. 157 00:07:38,720 --> 00:07:41,040 Speaker 1: It's one thing to watch the game of football from TV, 158 00:07:42,200 --> 00:07:45,000 Speaker 1: but put on to put on some pads as a 159 00:07:45,000 --> 00:07:48,320 Speaker 1: fan and not understanding how fast the game is and 160 00:07:48,320 --> 00:07:50,520 Speaker 1: how fast mofos is moving. 161 00:07:51,960 --> 00:07:52,760 Speaker 6: Man, don't do that. 162 00:07:53,680 --> 00:07:57,320 Speaker 1: You you play that, you played, you played eleven years. 163 00:07:57,360 --> 00:08:01,480 Speaker 3: I played fourteen years. I understand a collision. 164 00:08:02,720 --> 00:08:07,840 Speaker 2: And people see everybody thinks something easy if you've never done. 165 00:08:07,680 --> 00:08:10,600 Speaker 1: It, or maybe they maybe they have, maybe they have 166 00:08:10,720 --> 00:08:15,840 Speaker 1: done it. When we talk about pee wee, high school, college, pro. 167 00:08:16,600 --> 00:08:21,600 Speaker 1: But it's different, it's different. There's levels to this. As 168 00:08:21,600 --> 00:08:24,120 Speaker 1: you go up, you play flag and you play popcorn. 169 00:08:25,080 --> 00:08:26,560 Speaker 1: We pop bor or whatever you want to call it. 170 00:08:26,760 --> 00:08:28,800 Speaker 1: Then you go to JV, you go to high school, 171 00:08:28,840 --> 00:08:31,680 Speaker 1: you go to college. Now there is no higher level 172 00:08:33,000 --> 00:08:33,880 Speaker 1: than the NFL. 173 00:08:34,720 --> 00:08:38,760 Speaker 2: So all the people say, look the NFL, hey will 174 00:08:38,800 --> 00:08:41,120 Speaker 2: allow you to play. We want you to signe this waiver. 175 00:08:41,480 --> 00:08:44,280 Speaker 2: Whatever position you want to play. If you will want 176 00:08:44,320 --> 00:08:46,800 Speaker 2: to play running back, you want to play wilde running back. 177 00:08:46,800 --> 00:08:51,240 Speaker 2: Way I want to play cornerback. If they want to please, 178 00:08:52,320 --> 00:08:54,520 Speaker 2: and so, no, jo not the game. We're gonna Hey, 179 00:08:54,559 --> 00:08:57,160 Speaker 2: we're gonna have practice. Okay, who you want. 180 00:08:56,960 --> 00:08:57,440 Speaker 3: To go up by? 181 00:09:00,200 --> 00:09:02,960 Speaker 2: So you won't frayd Water, you won't zire Frankly, you 182 00:09:03,000 --> 00:09:07,360 Speaker 2: won't wro con Lo. Okay, you won't pass, you won't 183 00:09:07,920 --> 00:09:09,720 Speaker 2: Jalen Ramsay, you won't sting it. 184 00:09:09,880 --> 00:09:11,640 Speaker 3: Talk about who do you want? Who do you want 185 00:09:11,640 --> 00:09:13,880 Speaker 3: to guard? Who do you want to go on? Forgets? 186 00:09:14,640 --> 00:09:18,760 Speaker 2: Now, wait just one time and we'll think. Okay, now 187 00:09:18,840 --> 00:09:21,160 Speaker 2: tell me what you think. You think they're still hitting NFL. 188 00:09:23,080 --> 00:09:25,440 Speaker 1: And you know what, people's perspective on the game won't 189 00:09:25,520 --> 00:09:28,720 Speaker 1: change until they're actually in that situation. It's a situation 190 00:09:29,040 --> 00:09:32,200 Speaker 1: hypothetically speaking, they will never be in. Therefore, that's why 191 00:09:32,200 --> 00:09:34,920 Speaker 1: they comment the way they do from the outside looking in. 192 00:09:35,880 --> 00:09:37,640 Speaker 1: That's why they tore it down on players the way 193 00:09:37,679 --> 00:09:40,400 Speaker 1: they do, because they've never been in that position. They 194 00:09:40,400 --> 00:09:44,360 Speaker 1: don't understand how difficult it is. So it's easy to talk, 195 00:09:44,400 --> 00:09:46,000 Speaker 1: you know, from the couch or if you watch the 196 00:09:46,040 --> 00:09:48,840 Speaker 1: game in your studying the game and have never actually 197 00:09:48,880 --> 00:09:52,240 Speaker 1: played it to understand how difficult it is. I don't 198 00:09:52,280 --> 00:09:55,400 Speaker 1: think people really understand how great Saint Kwon Barkley is. 199 00:09:56,000 --> 00:09:58,080 Speaker 1: Forget the number of these prut it up. I don't understand. 200 00:09:58,080 --> 00:09:58,959 Speaker 3: I don't they get it. 201 00:09:59,400 --> 00:10:03,400 Speaker 1: They don't underst Jackson and Josh Allen, all these dudes 202 00:10:03,440 --> 00:10:06,840 Speaker 1: that you talk about, you know, on Twitter and accent. 203 00:10:07,040 --> 00:10:08,800 Speaker 1: They don't understand how good these dudes are. 204 00:10:10,040 --> 00:10:12,760 Speaker 2: Oh, I'm not saying that you can't catch, but I'm 205 00:10:12,800 --> 00:10:15,120 Speaker 2: saying catch the ball where a dude gonna drill you. 206 00:10:16,360 --> 00:10:19,080 Speaker 1: We have to focus. Yeah, you have to focus. We 207 00:10:19,160 --> 00:10:22,160 Speaker 1: have to lock it on the ball, bring it in. Man. 208 00:10:22,800 --> 00:10:24,400 Speaker 6: Man, there's so many that man. 209 00:10:24,760 --> 00:10:28,480 Speaker 3: Man, hey, oh Joe, they don't hit no more. I'll 210 00:10:28,480 --> 00:10:28,960 Speaker 3: tell you what. 211 00:10:29,040 --> 00:10:31,560 Speaker 2: We're gonna hand the ball off and we're gonna block it, 212 00:10:31,880 --> 00:10:34,560 Speaker 2: just like we put. If that was Derrick Henry or 213 00:10:34,679 --> 00:10:37,120 Speaker 2: sat quan running the football. We're not gonna turn him 214 00:10:37,160 --> 00:10:39,160 Speaker 2: loose on you. We're gonna block it all the same. 215 00:10:40,120 --> 00:10:41,840 Speaker 1: Mind you remember this, and when they block it all 216 00:10:41,840 --> 00:10:44,600 Speaker 1: the same, there's always one free man that the running 217 00:10:44,600 --> 00:10:45,000 Speaker 1: back has. 218 00:10:45,200 --> 00:10:48,199 Speaker 3: Absolutely because the quarterback is not blocking anybody. Always one 219 00:10:48,200 --> 00:10:50,120 Speaker 3: man at the court that the running back has to be. 220 00:10:50,520 --> 00:10:52,160 Speaker 3: And that's your man. You got to beat him on 221 00:10:52,200 --> 00:10:58,760 Speaker 3: your own. It's different man, and you got on pads. 222 00:10:58,920 --> 00:11:02,360 Speaker 2: I mean you, you're not used to joking nobody. 223 00:11:02,880 --> 00:11:03,120 Speaker 3: Hey. 224 00:11:03,160 --> 00:11:04,679 Speaker 2: As a matter of fact, you see the guy from 225 00:11:04,800 --> 00:11:07,319 Speaker 2: the Hawks, they had the two guys that he went 226 00:11:07,360 --> 00:11:08,200 Speaker 2: to lay the ball up. 227 00:11:08,080 --> 00:11:12,040 Speaker 3: And the end up tearing the knee for real. 228 00:11:13,320 --> 00:11:15,000 Speaker 6: Yes, you sal. 229 00:11:14,880 --> 00:11:18,199 Speaker 3: About like that and had five Yes they have you 230 00:11:18,240 --> 00:11:19,200 Speaker 3: already had the competition. 231 00:11:19,280 --> 00:11:21,480 Speaker 2: You gotta make so many points. One gallon one end. 232 00:11:21,480 --> 00:11:25,800 Speaker 2: One got on the other end. They gave five four three. 233 00:11:26,280 --> 00:11:30,560 Speaker 2: He got the ball with the layer up, ring him 234 00:11:30,600 --> 00:11:31,559 Speaker 2: up out of in a wheelchair. 235 00:11:34,720 --> 00:11:37,880 Speaker 6: That's funny. 236 00:11:38,120 --> 00:11:39,280 Speaker 3: What's what's the thing is thought you. 237 00:11:39,360 --> 00:11:42,440 Speaker 2: I don't think people realize when people like, well, damn man, 238 00:11:42,440 --> 00:11:45,600 Speaker 2: you bigger than that. Though you don't look that big. Hell, 239 00:11:45,679 --> 00:11:51,200 Speaker 2: I'm small compared to a tight end and then you 240 00:11:51,320 --> 00:11:58,400 Speaker 2: multiply that I got running full speed. If you ain't 241 00:11:58,400 --> 00:12:00,280 Speaker 2: never been used to taking no hit, or you haven't 242 00:12:00,280 --> 00:12:03,640 Speaker 2: taken a hit in a while, you're not taking not 243 00:12:03,760 --> 00:12:06,200 Speaker 2: at all. Because as I got older, I didn't want 244 00:12:06,240 --> 00:12:06,520 Speaker 2: to look. 245 00:12:06,600 --> 00:12:09,000 Speaker 1: I was a guy. Ay, I would take a lik, 246 00:12:09,360 --> 00:12:11,760 Speaker 1: I would pay. Okay, I'm right back up. 247 00:12:11,920 --> 00:12:14,600 Speaker 2: If I got old, I started getting year twelve thirteen fourteen, 248 00:12:14,960 --> 00:12:21,920 Speaker 2: I put that blink on joey oh yo, our. 249 00:12:21,920 --> 00:12:23,920 Speaker 3: Head right on up out the boy. I ain't taking 250 00:12:23,960 --> 00:12:27,280 Speaker 3: that licked the I'm good. Listen. 251 00:12:27,480 --> 00:12:29,080 Speaker 1: As you get older, you get by the year ten 252 00:12:29,160 --> 00:12:32,040 Speaker 1: and on, you make business business decisions. 253 00:12:32,960 --> 00:12:39,680 Speaker 2: Absolutely, Hey, put that blink on, head on out of bound. Hey, 254 00:12:39,840 --> 00:12:42,920 Speaker 2: turn it up now, I'm good. Hey, if hey on, Joe, 255 00:12:42,960 --> 00:12:44,839 Speaker 2: your second to one. If we can't get second or 256 00:12:44,840 --> 00:12:47,800 Speaker 2: one thirty one dollars, somebody's wrong. Something started laying the 257 00:12:47,800 --> 00:12:50,240 Speaker 2: ball game for him down, something like that. Okay, god 258 00:12:50,320 --> 00:12:54,079 Speaker 2: can hey, I got too. Hey back in the day 259 00:12:54,080 --> 00:12:56,079 Speaker 2: on Joe, two guys coming, Okay, you. 260 00:12:56,040 --> 00:12:59,240 Speaker 1: Over here, you over here, okay, sit him go over 261 00:12:59,280 --> 00:12:59,600 Speaker 1: the cow. 262 00:13:05,720 --> 00:13:07,319 Speaker 2: I thank you the lesson of the danger. Let me 263 00:13:07,360 --> 00:13:14,040 Speaker 2: get you, let me get you. I will get y'all 264 00:13:15,480 --> 00:13:17,920 Speaker 2: back inside. That's a problem. 265 00:13:18,320 --> 00:13:19,760 Speaker 3: You not a problem. 266 00:13:20,080 --> 00:13:27,160 Speaker 2: But I'm anxious. I'm really anxious to see Travis Gibbor 267 00:13:27,200 --> 00:13:30,080 Speaker 2: the go playing both sides. It's important where he goes on. 268 00:13:30,800 --> 00:13:34,839 Speaker 2: It's very very, very very very important where he goes. 269 00:13:36,240 --> 00:13:39,520 Speaker 1: And I hope the team that drafts him understands his beliefs, 270 00:13:39,800 --> 00:13:43,360 Speaker 1: understands his wants, and they use him in that manner 271 00:13:44,040 --> 00:13:45,600 Speaker 1: because he's an exciting player. 272 00:13:46,320 --> 00:13:48,840 Speaker 6: He's a generational talent, and. 273 00:13:48,720 --> 00:13:50,280 Speaker 1: They need to be able to use him in a 274 00:13:50,360 --> 00:13:53,200 Speaker 1: manner so he's able to display that at the next 275 00:13:53,280 --> 00:13:55,559 Speaker 1: level the same way he did at Colorado. 276 00:13:56,679 --> 00:13:58,560 Speaker 2: I'm not so sure it's not more of a mental 277 00:13:58,559 --> 00:14:00,960 Speaker 2: than a physical focus, because you have to be on 278 00:14:01,000 --> 00:14:05,480 Speaker 2: your a game all the time, especially on defense because 279 00:14:05,800 --> 00:14:07,760 Speaker 2: cause you know, sometimes the wide receivers you're not getting 280 00:14:07,760 --> 00:14:09,040 Speaker 2: the ball, so I ain't really got to focus. 281 00:14:09,040 --> 00:14:10,480 Speaker 3: I ain't saying throw them in the ball. I'm laughing 282 00:14:10,480 --> 00:14:11,160 Speaker 3: at the progression. 283 00:14:11,760 --> 00:14:14,439 Speaker 2: But as a defensive player, as a d as a corner, 284 00:14:15,600 --> 00:14:20,920 Speaker 2: you lie, you have one slip, o Joe, you hesitate 285 00:14:21,000 --> 00:14:21,560 Speaker 2: a little. 286 00:14:21,360 --> 00:14:25,720 Speaker 3: Bit, You got smell the strike up the band. 287 00:14:27,080 --> 00:14:31,120 Speaker 2: That's it and now you coming. Hey, you hey, and 288 00:14:31,240 --> 00:14:33,200 Speaker 2: what everybody do. I think you ever touched that what 289 00:14:33,280 --> 00:14:34,960 Speaker 2: they do with Joe. Then look up back to Joe 290 00:14:35,000 --> 00:14:38,120 Speaker 2: but Trump, Yeah, that's you, that's you. Yeah yeah, yeah, 291 00:14:38,160 --> 00:14:40,160 Speaker 2: yeah you did that. We just saw that. Yeah, when 292 00:14:40,160 --> 00:14:43,640 Speaker 2: you look at him there yet. But I'm askeious to 293 00:14:43,640 --> 00:14:45,920 Speaker 2: see what he can do. He believes he can do it. 294 00:14:46,320 --> 00:14:49,240 Speaker 2: Uh do I believe he can play every snap offensive defense? 295 00:14:49,320 --> 00:14:51,560 Speaker 2: I don't do. I think he can play one side 296 00:14:51,560 --> 00:14:54,080 Speaker 2: and then the half packages. I believe it's easier if 297 00:14:54,080 --> 00:14:56,640 Speaker 2: he's a dB for them to install packages at the 298 00:14:56,680 --> 00:14:57,320 Speaker 2: wire position. 299 00:14:58,000 --> 00:15:01,760 Speaker 3: I believe that's easier. But let him try it. 300 00:15:01,880 --> 00:15:06,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, I like it, I think, And you draft you're 301 00:15:06,800 --> 00:15:09,760 Speaker 1: drafting him knowing that's what he wants to do. 302 00:15:10,040 --> 00:15:12,160 Speaker 2: One of the reasons he went with Time. Time told 303 00:15:12,200 --> 00:15:14,640 Speaker 2: him he would let him do it. I'll let you 304 00:15:14,720 --> 00:15:17,920 Speaker 2: do whatever you can do. He showed Time he could 305 00:15:17,960 --> 00:15:19,120 Speaker 2: do it. He did it. 306 00:15:19,600 --> 00:15:20,960 Speaker 3: He won the Heisman Trophy. 307 00:15:21,240 --> 00:15:23,320 Speaker 2: One of the great seasons of the wide receiver had 308 00:15:23,440 --> 00:15:26,640 Speaker 2: but thirteen fourteen hundred yards a dB. He had a 309 00:15:26,680 --> 00:15:30,160 Speaker 2: bunch of pass breakups, had a forest bumber, key interceptions, 310 00:15:30,480 --> 00:15:31,200 Speaker 2: good tackler. 311 00:15:31,400 --> 00:15:32,840 Speaker 6: Oh, he gonna come up and tackle too. 312 00:15:33,320 --> 00:15:34,120 Speaker 3: Let's see what he can do. 313 00:15:38,160 --> 00:15:41,400 Speaker 2: No, no problem whatsoever given I think you got to 314 00:15:41,440 --> 00:15:43,600 Speaker 2: get I think you have to give him that because 315 00:15:43,720 --> 00:15:46,120 Speaker 2: deep down, because now he gonna feel some type of way. 316 00:15:46,760 --> 00:15:49,840 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, you already knew you already listen, knew what 317 00:15:49,880 --> 00:15:52,520 Speaker 1: I wanted before I got here. I expressed my interest 318 00:15:52,600 --> 00:15:54,760 Speaker 1: in it. I said it over and over and over 319 00:15:54,800 --> 00:15:55,680 Speaker 1: countless times. 320 00:15:55,840 --> 00:15:56,880 Speaker 6: And you bring me in. 321 00:15:56,920 --> 00:15:59,320 Speaker 1: You draft me this high wherever it may be, and 322 00:15:59,360 --> 00:16:01,600 Speaker 1: then when I get here, you tell me, well, we 323 00:16:01,640 --> 00:16:03,960 Speaker 1: don't thank you. You know how they play that game. Well, 324 00:16:04,000 --> 00:16:06,040 Speaker 1: we don't thank you. Well, we we think you're better 325 00:16:06,080 --> 00:16:08,680 Speaker 1: suit that. Come on, now, don't play that game. 326 00:16:11,320 --> 00:16:15,480 Speaker 2: Nobody tell me he would love that opportunity. 327 00:16:15,800 --> 00:16:20,320 Speaker 1: So where do you think he goes O Joe oh Man, 328 00:16:20,520 --> 00:16:21,280 Speaker 1: what do you think, trap? 329 00:16:21,520 --> 00:16:22,000 Speaker 3: I don't know. 330 00:16:22,400 --> 00:16:25,960 Speaker 1: Cleveland, the Giants, I don't know, because listen, when you 331 00:16:25,960 --> 00:16:27,480 Speaker 1: talk about Cleveland, they need a quarterback. 332 00:16:27,520 --> 00:16:29,200 Speaker 6: When we talk about the Giants, they need a quarterback. 333 00:16:29,240 --> 00:16:31,760 Speaker 1: So I don't think any any in those two teams 334 00:16:32,000 --> 00:16:35,000 Speaker 1: are not passing up on your door. 335 00:16:36,400 --> 00:16:37,440 Speaker 6: Or cam Ward. 336 00:16:37,840 --> 00:16:42,360 Speaker 1: Now, I listen, somebody might come up from low and 337 00:16:42,520 --> 00:16:45,360 Speaker 1: surprise us on draft day and come and grab a 338 00:16:45,440 --> 00:16:48,000 Speaker 1: quarterback early and then it freeze up to your door 339 00:16:48,080 --> 00:16:50,640 Speaker 1: somewhere else. We keep forgetting were not even talking about 340 00:16:50,640 --> 00:16:53,760 Speaker 1: that dude, Carter Hell, who's to say he don't go first? 341 00:16:54,000 --> 00:16:58,440 Speaker 1: You know, you just don't know, especially with those four. 342 00:16:58,840 --> 00:17:01,080 Speaker 1: Ain't no telling how it's going to go. But I 343 00:17:01,120 --> 00:17:02,960 Speaker 1: know he's gonna go in the top five. I just 344 00:17:03,040 --> 00:17:06,320 Speaker 1: don't nowhere And who knows what's going to happen on draft. 345 00:17:06,359 --> 00:17:09,199 Speaker 1: They with some other team and some conversation that they 346 00:17:09,280 --> 00:17:11,840 Speaker 1: might that they might feel a player is up there 347 00:17:11,880 --> 00:17:15,080 Speaker 1: that might be a generational talent and a franchise changing 348 00:17:15,160 --> 00:17:18,080 Speaker 1: player to them, and they go up and snatch them 349 00:17:18,200 --> 00:17:19,560 Speaker 1: and change the draft. 350 00:17:19,320 --> 00:17:20,000 Speaker 3: All the way up. 351 00:17:22,200 --> 00:17:24,879 Speaker 2: According to Adam Shefter, the Browns are more likely to 352 00:17:24,880 --> 00:17:28,240 Speaker 2: pick Travis Hunter at two in the draft. He impressed 353 00:17:28,240 --> 00:17:31,080 Speaker 2: Cleveland at his pro day. The Browns are exploring a 354 00:17:31,119 --> 00:17:34,440 Speaker 2: potential taking Travis Hunter at two, been trading back into 355 00:17:34,480 --> 00:17:39,040 Speaker 2: the first round to land Jalen Milroe. It's possible that 356 00:17:39,080 --> 00:17:41,840 Speaker 2: Melroe could be picked around there with their second pick, 357 00:17:42,480 --> 00:17:44,440 Speaker 2: but it would be gambling and in the season with 358 00:17:45,080 --> 00:17:50,080 Speaker 2: Kenny Pickett FQB one, Milroe was invited and he has 359 00:17:50,160 --> 00:17:53,119 Speaker 2: accepted an invitation to the NFL Draft. 360 00:17:55,320 --> 00:17:57,679 Speaker 6: You think, is he Milroe has a chance to go 361 00:17:57,680 --> 00:17:58,280 Speaker 6: in the first round. 362 00:17:58,359 --> 00:18:02,560 Speaker 3: You think that's what they're saying. Oh Joe, It's just 363 00:18:02,840 --> 00:18:03,679 Speaker 3: I don't like that, man. 364 00:18:03,720 --> 00:18:05,080 Speaker 1: I don't like when they I don't like when they 365 00:18:05,080 --> 00:18:06,879 Speaker 1: bring players in and have them sitting there like that 366 00:18:07,040 --> 00:18:09,240 Speaker 1: all day and ain't no telling where you're going to go. 367 00:18:09,359 --> 00:18:11,040 Speaker 1: It's not it's not for certain you're going in the 368 00:18:11,040 --> 00:18:13,480 Speaker 1: first round. They put the camera on you where everybody's 369 00:18:13,520 --> 00:18:14,000 Speaker 1: getting picked. 370 00:18:14,000 --> 00:18:14,520 Speaker 3: I don't like that. 371 00:18:14,840 --> 00:18:20,520 Speaker 1: That's embarrassing to me, man, I would be caught right. 372 00:18:22,280 --> 00:18:24,720 Speaker 1: Let me tell you why I'm calling Hans. I'm cautious 373 00:18:24,760 --> 00:18:28,280 Speaker 1: because I watched Anthony Richardson, and I watched a supremelygue 374 00:18:28,280 --> 00:18:31,560 Speaker 1: guy that size, run four or five, four or four whatever, 375 00:18:31,600 --> 00:18:34,840 Speaker 1: he ran, jump out of the gym. Well, he's a 376 00:18:34,840 --> 00:18:44,640 Speaker 1: fifty fus percent completion guy in college. M College, NFL 377 00:18:44,920 --> 00:18:47,280 Speaker 1: is harder to get completions than they end up. 378 00:18:47,600 --> 00:18:52,040 Speaker 2: Ben caught if you're fifty in college. You see he 379 00:18:52,200 --> 00:18:55,040 Speaker 2: was forty six. Richardson was forty six. There are times 380 00:18:55,080 --> 00:18:58,680 Speaker 2: I'm looking at mirror, I'm like, bro, what what was that? 381 00:19:00,640 --> 00:19:00,880 Speaker 3: Now? 382 00:19:00,920 --> 00:19:03,600 Speaker 2: I'm not saying that with some time. But how much 383 00:19:03,640 --> 00:19:06,399 Speaker 2: time are you gonna grab it? Cause you go into Cleveland, Bro, 384 00:19:06,440 --> 00:19:09,040 Speaker 2: they're gonna need you to be at at least by 385 00:19:09,119 --> 00:19:09,520 Speaker 2: year two. 386 00:19:09,600 --> 00:19:10,119 Speaker 3: We got to go. 387 00:19:10,600 --> 00:19:12,000 Speaker 2: You're gonna need to be ready to get to go 388 00:19:14,680 --> 00:19:18,960 Speaker 2: because Jimmy and d Haslam, they look. Look, we bit 389 00:19:19,040 --> 00:19:22,119 Speaker 2: the bullet on this with the Sean. We gave up 390 00:19:22,119 --> 00:19:25,200 Speaker 2: three first round picks. One of them was c. J. Strouds, 391 00:19:25,600 --> 00:19:27,880 Speaker 2: one of them was Will Anderson ju and the other 392 00:19:27,920 --> 00:19:28,679 Speaker 2: one was tanked there. 393 00:19:28,880 --> 00:19:33,000 Speaker 3: That's crazy, Oh, that's crazy. 394 00:19:34,640 --> 00:19:36,440 Speaker 2: One was offensive Rookie of the Year, the other was 395 00:19:36,520 --> 00:19:38,480 Speaker 2: Defensive Rookie of the Year, and they both gone to 396 00:19:38,520 --> 00:19:43,880 Speaker 2: the Pro Bowl. Now we bit the bullet on Now, 397 00:19:44,280 --> 00:19:48,480 Speaker 2: we signed off on Deshan, but you brought that to us. 398 00:19:49,640 --> 00:19:53,520 Speaker 2: Now we just gave what you call them one hundred 399 00:19:53,560 --> 00:19:55,879 Speaker 2: and forty million, one hundred and sixty million whatever we 400 00:19:55,960 --> 00:19:57,840 Speaker 2: gave Miles Miles period. 401 00:19:59,320 --> 00:20:00,359 Speaker 3: We took raft. 402 00:20:01,000 --> 00:20:03,240 Speaker 2: We traded back into the first round, which means that 403 00:20:03,280 --> 00:20:05,760 Speaker 2: we're probably gonna have to give up next year's first round. 404 00:20:09,000 --> 00:20:11,639 Speaker 1: Okay, listen, they've they've I mean, listen, the Browns have 405 00:20:11,680 --> 00:20:14,600 Speaker 1: been missing. Okay, the Browns have been missing for a 406 00:20:14,640 --> 00:20:17,520 Speaker 1: long time on their first round picks. They've been missing 407 00:20:17,560 --> 00:20:19,560 Speaker 1: for a long time. I know one thing, and they 408 00:20:19,600 --> 00:20:22,879 Speaker 1: can't miss if they go with TRAVISO, you can't. You 409 00:20:22,920 --> 00:20:25,320 Speaker 1: can't miss. I won't miss. 410 00:20:25,720 --> 00:20:28,400 Speaker 3: Now. They missed, they miss they missed the quarterbacks. But 411 00:20:28,440 --> 00:20:29,440 Speaker 3: you're not gonna miss there. 412 00:20:33,440 --> 00:20:36,520 Speaker 2: So I'm ready for it to say. I'm ready for 413 00:20:36,560 --> 00:20:39,080 Speaker 2: to see how this same player I'm trying to I'm trying. 414 00:20:39,280 --> 00:20:41,480 Speaker 2: I'm tired of trying to play expert and like, oh, 415 00:20:41,520 --> 00:20:44,399 Speaker 2: he's going here, he's going there because you don't, like 416 00:20:44,480 --> 00:20:47,040 Speaker 2: you said, somebody might come zooming up the draft board 417 00:20:47,280 --> 00:20:49,600 Speaker 2: because somebody like, oh, he ain't get the leg that 418 00:20:50,080 --> 00:20:52,440 Speaker 2: I can get him here. We're about to find out. 419 00:21:00,400 --> 00:21:04,399 Speaker 2: The Dolphins are reportedly growing increasingly frustrated with Tyreek's hills 420 00:21:04,400 --> 00:21:07,280 Speaker 2: anticks on the word about the culture he's creating in 421 00:21:07,320 --> 00:21:10,360 Speaker 2: the locker room that have begun to hear teams out 422 00:21:10,440 --> 00:21:13,680 Speaker 2: potential trade scenarios, but will only act on the deal 423 00:21:13,880 --> 00:21:15,919 Speaker 2: where they feel they're getting fair value. 424 00:21:15,920 --> 00:21:18,639 Speaker 3: In the retiring I tried to tell you this, so 425 00:21:18,800 --> 00:21:20,520 Speaker 3: you ain't want to say, oh you whoa, whoa whoa? 426 00:21:20,680 --> 00:21:21,480 Speaker 6: You trying to tell me what? 427 00:21:22,480 --> 00:21:24,160 Speaker 3: How about Tyreek. They were getting tired of that. 428 00:21:24,359 --> 00:21:27,959 Speaker 1: Oh well, listen, boy, it unk I think Tyreek. Tyreek 429 00:21:28,000 --> 00:21:31,399 Speaker 1: ain't slow. He's pretty smart. If you if you know 430 00:21:31,440 --> 00:21:32,879 Speaker 1: they're tired of it, and you keep on doing it, 431 00:21:32,920 --> 00:21:35,520 Speaker 1: what does that tell you he's doing it. 432 00:21:35,480 --> 00:21:38,639 Speaker 3: On what doing it on? What do you think you 433 00:21:38,680 --> 00:21:40,119 Speaker 3: do it on purpose? Absolutely? 434 00:21:40,160 --> 00:21:44,040 Speaker 1: Absolutely at this point absolutely TikTok. 435 00:21:44,240 --> 00:21:45,520 Speaker 6: You know some of the stuff he's doing. 436 00:21:46,000 --> 00:21:47,720 Speaker 2: Well, he the one that touched him talking about Oh 437 00:21:47,920 --> 00:21:50,040 Speaker 2: to find out your team trying to trade him. You're 438 00:21:50,040 --> 00:21:51,520 Speaker 2: the one the last game of the season you talk 439 00:21:51,560 --> 00:21:52,960 Speaker 2: about the piece out. You got to go do it's 440 00:21:53,000 --> 00:21:55,240 Speaker 2: best at you. I don't like when God, I don't 441 00:21:55,320 --> 00:21:58,640 Speaker 2: like when people become a victim in their own story. 442 00:21:59,520 --> 00:22:02,119 Speaker 2: Bill Big him in someone else's story. You can't be 443 00:22:02,160 --> 00:22:06,439 Speaker 2: a victim in a story that you created. You created this. 444 00:22:07,119 --> 00:22:09,800 Speaker 2: You wanted out of Kansas City, a situation. 445 00:22:09,800 --> 00:22:10,840 Speaker 6: Wait wait wait wait wait wait. 446 00:22:10,880 --> 00:22:12,440 Speaker 1: He wanted to get paid. He wanted to get paid. 447 00:22:12,440 --> 00:22:14,560 Speaker 1: That's all you want to get paid. They wanted they 448 00:22:14,560 --> 00:22:17,320 Speaker 1: were gonna pay him. But you gotta realize Tyreek had 449 00:22:17,400 --> 00:22:19,480 Speaker 1: years left on the contract. Now, when they came to 450 00:22:19,520 --> 00:22:21,479 Speaker 1: him and they asked him what he restructed. He said, noah, 451 00:22:21,480 --> 00:22:23,080 Speaker 1: I don't believe I signed the contract. 452 00:22:23,280 --> 00:22:25,680 Speaker 2: Then the next year he wanted to redo his contract, 453 00:22:25,760 --> 00:22:27,440 Speaker 2: even though he had said he had year before he 454 00:22:27,520 --> 00:22:28,360 Speaker 2: signed the contract. 455 00:22:28,400 --> 00:22:29,639 Speaker 3: I got no problem with that. 456 00:22:30,800 --> 00:22:34,920 Speaker 2: You go to a guy that was injury prone, Oh Joe, 457 00:22:34,920 --> 00:22:36,760 Speaker 2: tell the people at home, how did the tour come 458 00:22:36,800 --> 00:22:37,479 Speaker 2: into the league? 459 00:22:37,680 --> 00:22:41,199 Speaker 1: He left it to the league. Remember he fractured his 460 00:22:41,280 --> 00:22:44,600 Speaker 1: hip his last year. Yes, sir, he was injury prone 461 00:22:44,600 --> 00:22:48,840 Speaker 1: in college. Weren't they not nearly as physical as they 462 00:22:48,840 --> 00:22:51,000 Speaker 1: are in the NFL. So what do you think is 463 00:22:51,040 --> 00:22:55,359 Speaker 1: gonna happen? Oh Joe, excuse You're gonna deal with some 464 00:22:55,400 --> 00:22:56,879 Speaker 1: injuries here on at the next level. 465 00:22:58,160 --> 00:22:59,199 Speaker 3: That's what he's had to deal with. 466 00:22:59,359 --> 00:23:02,720 Speaker 2: So now and then you gonna look, I get it. 467 00:23:03,000 --> 00:23:05,960 Speaker 2: You know you a but you tried to sell us. 468 00:23:06,040 --> 00:23:06,400 Speaker 3: You tried. 469 00:23:06,680 --> 00:23:09,920 Speaker 2: You ain't nobody to believe that tour was on my 470 00:23:10,000 --> 00:23:13,119 Speaker 2: homes level. Not his accuracy, not being able to throw, 471 00:23:13,240 --> 00:23:15,840 Speaker 2: none of that. Okay, you want to hype your quarterback up. 472 00:23:15,840 --> 00:23:17,680 Speaker 2: You're like, hey, I believe in it. We get all 473 00:23:17,720 --> 00:23:20,639 Speaker 2: of that. You played the wide receiver position. I started 474 00:23:20,680 --> 00:23:22,960 Speaker 2: wide receiving the tight end. I get it. I want 475 00:23:23,000 --> 00:23:24,920 Speaker 2: to give my guy confidence. Let you know, I believe it, 476 00:23:26,480 --> 00:23:28,880 Speaker 2: but I'm trying to figure out. Oh Joe, what is it? 477 00:23:29,440 --> 00:23:32,159 Speaker 2: Like you said, his first year there, he was second 478 00:23:32,160 --> 00:23:34,960 Speaker 2: in the league in receiving the first third, second year there, 479 00:23:35,040 --> 00:23:36,760 Speaker 2: first year there, he was second in the league of receiving. 480 00:23:36,920 --> 00:23:38,159 Speaker 2: The next year to there, he was one of the 481 00:23:38,160 --> 00:23:42,120 Speaker 2: few guys that's ever had eighteen hundred receiving yard. Last year, 482 00:23:42,280 --> 00:23:44,879 Speaker 2: he was nick it got off to a bastard. It 483 00:23:44,960 --> 00:23:46,919 Speaker 2: started the first game of the season. I show with 484 00:23:47,040 --> 00:23:48,520 Speaker 2: the traffic stopped me so for it. 485 00:23:48,560 --> 00:23:50,280 Speaker 3: So on. I don't really know what happened. 486 00:23:50,320 --> 00:24:00,000 Speaker 1: Behave bro I, Oh, I just don't get these guys. 487 00:24:00,640 --> 00:24:02,159 Speaker 6: You never know what's gonna happen all that, all that 488 00:24:02,160 --> 00:24:04,359 Speaker 6: stuff is going on. You know, Tyreek is not happy. 489 00:24:04,520 --> 00:24:07,840 Speaker 1: Obviously, He's continues to do what he does on social media, 490 00:24:08,000 --> 00:24:10,760 Speaker 1: probably trying to egg on the trade and in that 491 00:24:10,840 --> 00:24:13,800 Speaker 1: manner in a fun and entertaining way, you know, using TikTok. 492 00:24:14,160 --> 00:24:16,320 Speaker 1: Then you have the draft coming up on Ain't no 493 00:24:16,400 --> 00:24:19,399 Speaker 1: telling what's gonna happen Draft Day, Ain't no telling, So 494 00:24:19,440 --> 00:24:22,439 Speaker 1: you know something something might happen there. You know, it 495 00:24:22,640 --> 00:24:25,680 Speaker 1: changed things up I'm just like, that's what's so exciting 496 00:24:25,680 --> 00:24:29,800 Speaker 1: to me because you just don't know. Yeah, you just 497 00:24:29,840 --> 00:24:33,400 Speaker 1: don't know. There's nobody for certain. You know what, he 498 00:24:33,560 --> 00:24:37,160 Speaker 1: was so great in college. He's absolutely going number one. 499 00:24:39,440 --> 00:24:40,199 Speaker 1: You just don't know. 500 00:24:44,320 --> 00:24:47,879 Speaker 2: Yeah, uh who you talking about going number one one? 501 00:24:49,119 --> 00:24:52,040 Speaker 3: Man? Oh oh you're talking about understanding? Yeah? 502 00:24:52,080 --> 00:24:53,840 Speaker 6: You just you just you don't know. 503 00:24:54,480 --> 00:24:54,959 Speaker 3: It could be. 504 00:24:55,160 --> 00:24:59,439 Speaker 6: Listen, Tennessee need Tennessee need the quarterback, don't they Yes? 505 00:24:59,600 --> 00:25:05,479 Speaker 3: I mean I don't know, man, ain't no telling. I 506 00:25:05,480 --> 00:25:07,320 Speaker 3: think the thing is O Joe, this is what we say. 507 00:25:07,359 --> 00:25:10,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, no matter how greate you are, they'll move your 508 00:25:10,600 --> 00:25:14,840 Speaker 2: yes and they'll fact because they're not gonna let you 509 00:25:14,880 --> 00:25:16,200 Speaker 2: become bigger than the team. 510 00:25:16,440 --> 00:25:17,960 Speaker 1: Not only bigger than the team, they won't let you 511 00:25:18,000 --> 00:25:23,639 Speaker 1: become bigger than the game itself. No, mm hmm No, 512 00:25:24,480 --> 00:25:27,320 Speaker 1: because Kansas City they traded Tyreek. 513 00:25:26,920 --> 00:25:28,440 Speaker 3: And went the street strict roles. 514 00:25:29,040 --> 00:25:31,240 Speaker 1: But listen, they want you got to understand why they 515 00:25:31,280 --> 00:25:33,320 Speaker 1: went to three. They got they got them. They got 516 00:25:33,359 --> 00:25:35,760 Speaker 1: that special dude over there too. They got that special 517 00:25:35,840 --> 00:25:36,800 Speaker 1: So what does that tell you? 518 00:25:37,640 --> 00:25:41,959 Speaker 2: Whide receivers ain't doing nothing without what, no matter who 519 00:25:42,040 --> 00:25:45,760 Speaker 2: he was Tyreek had a ten hundred yards, Wada had 520 00:25:45,760 --> 00:25:46,760 Speaker 2: another twelve hundred. 521 00:25:46,960 --> 00:25:52,760 Speaker 3: Did they win a playoff game? I was, I was, 522 00:25:52,840 --> 00:25:54,600 Speaker 3: I was, I was just talking about the super Bowl factor. 523 00:25:54,640 --> 00:25:55,240 Speaker 3: But I got you there. 524 00:25:55,400 --> 00:25:56,960 Speaker 2: You but know you better have that guy to pull 525 00:25:57,000 --> 00:26:00,200 Speaker 2: that trigger. Oh yeah, you would have had you to 526 00:26:00,240 --> 00:26:03,520 Speaker 2: have him. It's because think. 527 00:26:03,400 --> 00:26:06,960 Speaker 1: About it, all those years New England, how many how 528 00:26:06,960 --> 00:26:09,680 Speaker 1: many pro bot wide receivers they had. If you take 529 00:26:09,760 --> 00:26:13,880 Speaker 1: Randy Moss out of the equation, Wes Welker, I think 530 00:26:14,240 --> 00:26:15,639 Speaker 1: Troy Brown would no one. 531 00:26:16,320 --> 00:26:18,199 Speaker 2: But I don't think Troy. I don't think Troy. I 532 00:26:18,240 --> 00:26:20,680 Speaker 2: could be wrong. I don't know if Troy went with Brady. 533 00:26:20,960 --> 00:26:24,080 Speaker 2: I think he went maybe a year before Brady. Maybe 534 00:26:24,080 --> 00:26:26,560 Speaker 2: I'm wrong, right, But if you go back and study it, Oh, 535 00:26:26,640 --> 00:26:29,439 Speaker 2: John damn have a whole lot of Pro Bowl wide receiver. 536 00:26:31,880 --> 00:26:33,760 Speaker 2: That's why that's why people really. 537 00:26:33,520 --> 00:26:36,720 Speaker 1: Fell in love with toal Right, Like they din't get 538 00:26:36,800 --> 00:26:38,920 Speaker 1: all these super but going to all these Super Bowls 539 00:26:39,119 --> 00:26:41,480 Speaker 1: and they got all these talking wide receiver here, wide 540 00:26:41,480 --> 00:26:42,720 Speaker 1: receiver here, wide receiver. 541 00:26:42,480 --> 00:26:45,400 Speaker 3: Over there, Pro Bowl, all Pro and he doing that. 542 00:26:46,920 --> 00:26:51,320 Speaker 3: You better have that guy. It makes a difference, is 543 00:26:51,359 --> 00:26:53,439 Speaker 3: the reason they make the big Bucks. 544 00:26:55,200 --> 00:27:00,119 Speaker 2: It makes a big thing. He's the foundation. If you 545 00:27:00,200 --> 00:27:02,680 Speaker 2: get him, Ojoe, I can build it. If I got 546 00:27:02,680 --> 00:27:05,200 Speaker 2: a solid foundation, I can put whatever I want on it. 547 00:27:05,400 --> 00:27:07,640 Speaker 3: I can. If I got a great foundation, I. 548 00:27:07,560 --> 00:27:09,840 Speaker 2: Can put a twenty thousand square foot on or I 549 00:27:09,840 --> 00:27:13,119 Speaker 2: can put a thousand square foot on my foundation solid 550 00:27:13,280 --> 00:27:14,480 Speaker 2: and it can hold it all. 551 00:27:15,600 --> 00:27:17,800 Speaker 3: But foundation is so important in all aspects. 552 00:27:17,840 --> 00:27:21,399 Speaker 1: To like it it is, well, you just you just 553 00:27:21,440 --> 00:27:23,280 Speaker 1: said a word, Dan, don't even know you said it. 554 00:27:24,400 --> 00:27:26,960 Speaker 2: I get Gronk was there, But y'all do realize that 555 00:27:27,000 --> 00:27:29,119 Speaker 2: Brady went to how many Super Bowls before Gronk around. 556 00:27:33,280 --> 00:27:36,480 Speaker 2: Don't do that. Don't minimize that man. Gronk is, Hey, 557 00:27:36,800 --> 00:27:38,960 Speaker 2: Gronk from me is one of the two best tight ends. 558 00:27:38,960 --> 00:27:41,359 Speaker 2: Some people got Gronk one, some people got Kelsey. I 559 00:27:41,400 --> 00:27:42,000 Speaker 2: got Kelsey. 560 00:27:44,280 --> 00:27:47,119 Speaker 3: Hey. I'll debate. I'll debate you. 561 00:27:47,720 --> 00:27:50,400 Speaker 2: Look at the regular season, look at the postseason, blah 562 00:27:50,400 --> 00:27:51,120 Speaker 2: blah blah. 563 00:27:51,000 --> 00:27:56,800 Speaker 3: So forth the saw. But Tom, come on that. All 564 00:27:56,840 --> 00:27:59,920 Speaker 3: I know is Dion branch one super Bowl. 565 00:28:01,640 --> 00:28:06,160 Speaker 2: He went to Seattle and we never heard from him. 566 00:28:06,520 --> 00:28:10,240 Speaker 2: David Patton. Y'all know where David Patton went after he 567 00:28:10,280 --> 00:28:16,439 Speaker 2: left New England. Go back and look at the receivers 568 00:28:16,440 --> 00:28:18,760 Speaker 2: that he had early in his career. Yes, he has, 569 00:28:18,840 --> 00:28:21,680 Speaker 2: and boy when they left New England? Did you ever 570 00:28:21,760 --> 00:28:22,760 Speaker 2: hear from them again? 571 00:28:28,840 --> 00:28:30,280 Speaker 3: He take it? Undrafted? Y'all? 572 00:28:30,280 --> 00:28:33,920 Speaker 2: Do realize Wes Walker was an undrafted guy? Y'all do realize? 573 00:28:34,560 --> 00:28:36,440 Speaker 2: Edelman was a seventh round guy? 574 00:28:36,920 --> 00:28:37,680 Speaker 3: What was? What? Did? 575 00:28:37,720 --> 00:28:40,040 Speaker 2: What round? Did Amadola get drafted in? Because I think 576 00:28:40,040 --> 00:28:43,760 Speaker 2: he went to the RAM first? Ojo the RAM first? 577 00:28:43,760 --> 00:28:51,160 Speaker 2: If I'm not mistaken, that man. 578 00:28:51,160 --> 00:28:51,720 Speaker 3: Was really turned. 579 00:28:52,160 --> 00:28:54,800 Speaker 2: Look they were good players, but I don't know if 580 00:28:54,800 --> 00:28:56,000 Speaker 2: they're gonna be what they. 581 00:28:55,880 --> 00:29:08,120 Speaker 3: Became without being there. Yeah. Wow, So he was an 582 00:29:08,200 --> 00:29:11,360 Speaker 3: undrafted three eight aven Dola? 583 00:29:12,240 --> 00:29:16,480 Speaker 1: Hey, am Mindola was nice too, huh he. 584 00:29:16,120 --> 00:29:20,360 Speaker 3: He was the Cowboys, then the Eagles, then the Rams. 585 00:29:20,680 --> 00:29:21,360 Speaker 6: He was nice. 586 00:29:23,640 --> 00:29:26,560 Speaker 2: Get David Gibbons. Do y'all remember what David Gibbons? Once 587 00:29:26,560 --> 00:29:30,240 Speaker 2: he left New England? What about David Patton? Dion Branch 588 00:29:30,360 --> 00:29:33,680 Speaker 2: was a Super Bowl MVP. He went to Seattle. Did 589 00:29:33,760 --> 00:29:35,040 Speaker 2: y'all ever hear from him again? 590 00:29:45,280 --> 00:29:47,920 Speaker 3: Yeah? Elima was a quarterback over Yeah I can't, I can't. 591 00:29:48,000 --> 00:29:51,440 Speaker 1: I can't say yeah, yeah, I. 592 00:29:51,480 --> 00:29:54,760 Speaker 2: Just look, I don't oh yo, uh uh seven eleven. 593 00:29:55,040 --> 00:29:57,360 Speaker 3: Chris Chris Hogan, Yo got. 594 00:29:57,400 --> 00:30:01,720 Speaker 6: Oh always open Buffalo Midlands. Yes, with the Dolphins. 595 00:30:01,720 --> 00:30:03,720 Speaker 3: What are you undrafted? He was like a lacrosse or 596 00:30:03,720 --> 00:30:07,880 Speaker 3: a field hockey player. He was nice. He was nice. 597 00:30:08,800 --> 00:30:11,440 Speaker 3: He was like when he got with Brady he was nice. 598 00:30:14,040 --> 00:30:15,280 Speaker 3: God damn Chris Hogan. 599 00:30:15,400 --> 00:30:16,120 Speaker 6: That's a good one. 600 00:30:16,600 --> 00:30:20,360 Speaker 2: Big discourse was created over the weekend when Draft Expert 601 00:30:20,440 --> 00:30:23,560 Speaker 2: tweeting lots of double taps and hitches from your door today, 602 00:30:23,840 --> 00:30:26,160 Speaker 2: NFL defenders closed windows quickly. 603 00:30:26,520 --> 00:30:28,360 Speaker 3: This was a concerning workout. 604 00:30:28,640 --> 00:30:29,400 Speaker 1: Uh uh. 605 00:30:29,880 --> 00:30:33,040 Speaker 2: Andre Cisco said, boy better start patting the ball? Were 606 00:30:33,040 --> 00:30:36,800 Speaker 2: breaking all that early? But Darius Slayton jumped in and said, 607 00:30:37,080 --> 00:30:39,520 Speaker 2: I promise he can pack the ball. Just find if 608 00:30:39,520 --> 00:30:41,520 Speaker 2: a dB was so good at breaking on the ball 609 00:30:41,720 --> 00:30:44,600 Speaker 2: and passed, they'd have eight plus picks a year. Same 610 00:30:44,680 --> 00:30:47,640 Speaker 2: guys that followed the two man dagger concept and give 611 00:30:47,720 --> 00:30:51,080 Speaker 2: up digs a third and long every season, all season long. 612 00:30:50,960 --> 00:30:53,920 Speaker 3: Talking about boy patted the ball? What a joke? I said, 613 00:30:53,920 --> 00:30:54,760 Speaker 3: the exact same thing. 614 00:30:56,000 --> 00:30:59,680 Speaker 1: I said, the exact same thing, right, all the all 615 00:30:59,720 --> 00:31:01,960 Speaker 1: the all the all the expert, the dbach or the 616 00:31:02,040 --> 00:31:05,600 Speaker 1: Patna drive on that and listen, they not driving on nothing, man, 617 00:31:05,640 --> 00:31:08,520 Speaker 1: stop playing. This is a time and game. It's always 618 00:31:08,520 --> 00:31:12,160 Speaker 1: been a time and game. It always has been. Quarterbacks 619 00:31:12,200 --> 00:31:14,320 Speaker 1: have been patting the ball since the beginning of time. 620 00:31:14,680 --> 00:31:16,280 Speaker 1: It just it's a part. It's a part of rhythm. 621 00:31:16,320 --> 00:31:19,480 Speaker 1: It's a part of rhythm throwing. Sometimes you hit, sometimes 622 00:31:19,520 --> 00:31:22,400 Speaker 1: you don't. Sometimes you pat, sometimes you don't. Sometimes the 623 00:31:22,480 --> 00:31:25,320 Speaker 1: pat is for the timing of the actual throw, waiting 624 00:31:25,320 --> 00:31:26,360 Speaker 1: for the receiver to get open. 625 00:31:27,080 --> 00:31:30,000 Speaker 3: It's a part. It's a part of the rhythm. 626 00:31:30,200 --> 00:31:33,800 Speaker 1: When you when you're playing, when you throw, hey, when 627 00:31:33,800 --> 00:31:36,280 Speaker 1: you're unk, when you when when John l Way throw 628 00:31:36,320 --> 00:31:40,200 Speaker 1: that skinny route, right, yeah, he hit that seventh When 629 00:31:40,200 --> 00:31:41,160 Speaker 1: you hit that seventh. 630 00:31:40,880 --> 00:31:43,680 Speaker 3: Step, the ball is gone. Yes, I play like that. 631 00:31:43,720 --> 00:31:45,680 Speaker 1: There's no hitching, there no pack because the ball is 632 00:31:45,680 --> 00:31:46,960 Speaker 1: coming out your time. 633 00:31:47,520 --> 00:31:50,680 Speaker 3: Right. You got a dig route, you got a curl route. 634 00:31:50,800 --> 00:31:53,080 Speaker 1: There's a pat on the ball if you get to 635 00:31:53,120 --> 00:31:55,520 Speaker 1: that fifth step, if you're not at your break yet, 636 00:31:56,680 --> 00:32:00,880 Speaker 1: it just is on the the corner route, the deep ball. 637 00:32:02,280 --> 00:32:04,640 Speaker 3: When you hit that seven step, you got playoff. 638 00:32:06,120 --> 00:32:06,239 Speaker 4: Hit. 639 00:32:06,320 --> 00:32:08,160 Speaker 3: You're taking fire. You're taking five with a hitch. 640 00:32:08,320 --> 00:32:12,680 Speaker 1: And my point exactly, whoever, whoever, whoever that was for 641 00:32:12,760 --> 00:32:15,080 Speaker 1: one we talk about, we talk about it in shorts, 642 00:32:15,240 --> 00:32:16,360 Speaker 1: and we talk about on air. 643 00:32:17,360 --> 00:32:19,600 Speaker 6: Turn on the goddamn film. 644 00:32:20,120 --> 00:32:23,520 Speaker 1: Watch all thirty two NFL quarterbacks on drop back passes. 645 00:32:23,760 --> 00:32:26,040 Speaker 1: You'll see all of them take hitches. He'll see all 646 00:32:26,080 --> 00:32:28,760 Speaker 1: of them past the ball. It's a part of the 647 00:32:28,840 --> 00:32:33,600 Speaker 1: game and always has been. That's called nick picking, trying 648 00:32:33,600 --> 00:32:36,400 Speaker 1: to find something wrong to say, and then you loud 649 00:32:36,400 --> 00:32:39,680 Speaker 1: and wrong, you loud and wrong. 650 00:32:41,720 --> 00:32:44,200 Speaker 2: Well, I'm well hopefully that everybody go get their chance 651 00:32:44,200 --> 00:32:48,160 Speaker 2: to see. But oh Joe, at this point in juncture, 652 00:32:48,640 --> 00:32:51,280 Speaker 2: everybody's trying to find fault, oh something. 653 00:32:52,040 --> 00:32:52,680 Speaker 3: You know he's not. 654 00:32:53,040 --> 00:32:55,960 Speaker 1: He's getting his head round too quick before the break. 655 00:32:56,280 --> 00:32:59,520 Speaker 1: Dv's gonna take key on that. He's not dropping his heels. 656 00:33:00,040 --> 00:33:02,520 Speaker 1: He's doing this. He's telling it the route. He's leaning 657 00:33:02,640 --> 00:33:05,600 Speaker 1: to the route as the dB. I you know, I 658 00:33:05,640 --> 00:33:08,320 Speaker 1: get it. I get it. I get it just from me. 659 00:33:09,160 --> 00:33:12,840 Speaker 2: Look you hope, like oh Shore, the way I look 660 00:33:12,880 --> 00:33:14,880 Speaker 2: at it, game film is the most important. 661 00:33:15,680 --> 00:33:15,800 Speaker 3: Now. 662 00:33:15,840 --> 00:33:17,400 Speaker 2: If I'm looking at the game, if I'm looking at 663 00:33:17,560 --> 00:33:20,920 Speaker 2: a guy's game tape, I'm watching now. If he looks 664 00:33:20,920 --> 00:33:22,800 Speaker 2: fast when he goes to the comfouine, I hope he 665 00:33:22,880 --> 00:33:23,560 Speaker 2: runs fast. 666 00:33:24,400 --> 00:33:27,440 Speaker 3: I hope he's quick. I hope he jumps high. 667 00:33:27,560 --> 00:33:30,600 Speaker 2: So now that that cooperates what I've seen on tape. 668 00:33:30,840 --> 00:33:33,160 Speaker 2: Right now, if there's something that that I see on 669 00:33:33,240 --> 00:33:35,600 Speaker 2: tape that I don't see when he tests, I got 670 00:33:35,600 --> 00:33:38,640 Speaker 2: to go back and evaluate. Okay, what did I miss 671 00:33:38,680 --> 00:33:41,120 Speaker 2: something on Joe? What if I miss it? 672 00:33:42,040 --> 00:33:42,240 Speaker 3: Then? 673 00:33:42,320 --> 00:33:44,080 Speaker 2: Because at the end of the day, I still believe 674 00:33:44,120 --> 00:33:46,200 Speaker 2: tape is the most important. And I give you a 675 00:33:46,200 --> 00:33:53,280 Speaker 2: prime example, Ozzie, he took Terreil Suggs. Reil Suggs ran 676 00:33:53,400 --> 00:33:57,520 Speaker 2: four eight with track, spikes and a jock. 677 00:33:59,680 --> 00:34:02,360 Speaker 1: I say, o, how you take this man with a 678 00:34:02,480 --> 00:34:04,640 Speaker 1: top ten pick? And he ran four eight? 679 00:34:05,080 --> 00:34:07,080 Speaker 2: And he looks me damn by turning on the family 680 00:34:07,080 --> 00:34:12,600 Speaker 2: when somebody got them twenty four sacks. Somebody got the 681 00:34:12,640 --> 00:34:15,239 Speaker 2: twenty four sacks, he said, Son, you watch him bend 682 00:34:15,239 --> 00:34:15,880 Speaker 2: the edge. 683 00:34:17,360 --> 00:34:18,520 Speaker 6: You don't understand quick? 684 00:34:18,880 --> 00:34:24,680 Speaker 2: I said, okay, yeah, okay, okay, okay. 685 00:34:25,239 --> 00:34:29,359 Speaker 3: And look, why would I argue with Ozsie? Look at 686 00:34:29,360 --> 00:34:30,279 Speaker 3: the hall of famers. 687 00:34:30,000 --> 00:34:34,640 Speaker 2: He's got Ray Lewis, Jonathan Augnda, Hen reed Son's gonna 688 00:34:34,640 --> 00:34:37,279 Speaker 2: be a Hall of Famer. Lamar Jackson's gonna be a 689 00:34:37,320 --> 00:34:41,160 Speaker 2: Hall of Famer Marshall Yanda's gonna be a Hall of Famer. 690 00:34:42,200 --> 00:34:45,640 Speaker 2: So I mean, what we what do we do with here? Yeah, 691 00:34:45,840 --> 00:34:47,759 Speaker 2: at the end of the day, wash the tape? Do 692 00:34:47,800 --> 00:34:49,839 Speaker 2: you see what? What do you see on tape? Are 693 00:34:49,840 --> 00:34:52,200 Speaker 2: there some things everybody has thinks that it shuld crook? 694 00:34:52,200 --> 00:34:52,640 Speaker 3: Correct? 695 00:34:52,719 --> 00:34:55,320 Speaker 2: I'm y'all think it seemed like Peyton and Tom and everybody. 696 00:34:55,480 --> 00:34:59,160 Speaker 2: There's something you can get better at. But to say 697 00:34:59,200 --> 00:35:02,520 Speaker 2: a guy is lawless, it's just not true. 698 00:35:02,719 --> 00:35:05,480 Speaker 3: No, not at all, not at all. You can listen. 699 00:35:06,239 --> 00:35:08,920 Speaker 1: You can break down people's tape right now. You can 700 00:35:08,960 --> 00:35:11,240 Speaker 1: break down people's tape right now that are in the league, 701 00:35:11,239 --> 00:35:13,239 Speaker 1: that are some of the best at their positions right now, 702 00:35:13,840 --> 00:35:15,480 Speaker 1: and you can find flaws in their game. 703 00:35:15,760 --> 00:35:18,840 Speaker 3: Absolutely, you can find. All you have to do is nitpick. 704 00:35:19,320 --> 00:35:19,640 Speaker 3: You can. 705 00:35:19,920 --> 00:35:21,680 Speaker 6: You can nick pick on any and everybody. 706 00:35:21,719 --> 00:35:24,279 Speaker 1: There was always something to continue to work on, no 707 00:35:24,320 --> 00:35:26,279 Speaker 1: matter how long you've been playing this game, because you 708 00:35:26,320 --> 00:35:29,120 Speaker 1: will never be perfect, no matter how much you strive 709 00:35:29,200 --> 00:35:31,919 Speaker 1: for you strive for perfection, you will always fall short 710 00:35:31,920 --> 00:35:34,560 Speaker 1: because you're human and they will always be human error 711 00:35:34,560 --> 00:35:38,480 Speaker 1: in everything that you do. So I listen, I understand 712 00:35:38,520 --> 00:35:40,960 Speaker 1: what the guy was saying with the scout whoever, whoever 713 00:35:40,960 --> 00:35:43,440 Speaker 1: tooted that out, I don't think they really understand that 714 00:35:43,480 --> 00:35:47,120 Speaker 1: the game of football in general before making that general statement. 715 00:35:47,160 --> 00:35:50,640 Speaker 1: When all quarterbacks do this, they all do based on 716 00:35:50,680 --> 00:35:53,640 Speaker 1: the based on the play, based on the length of 717 00:35:53,640 --> 00:35:54,040 Speaker 1: the route. 718 00:35:54,080 --> 00:35:55,920 Speaker 6: I mean, just it made no sense. 719 00:35:56,400 --> 00:35:58,239 Speaker 1: It was so funny to see Michael going back and 720 00:35:58,280 --> 00:36:00,319 Speaker 1: forth and Darius Slayton, I'm talking traad. 721 00:36:00,360 --> 00:36:01,200 Speaker 3: That was that was funny. 722 00:36:02,040 --> 00:36:04,239 Speaker 2: And and and most of the time the quarterback they 723 00:36:04,239 --> 00:36:06,560 Speaker 2: have the ball with how many times you see the. 724 00:36:06,560 --> 00:36:08,600 Speaker 1: Quarterback bringing the ball over one head and throw it. 725 00:36:09,200 --> 00:36:11,040 Speaker 1: They bringing the ball up here like this here don 726 00:36:11,200 --> 00:36:15,080 Speaker 1: chow exactly. And and then that that rhythm throw is 727 00:36:15,120 --> 00:36:18,080 Speaker 1: a pack and let it go, Yes, a pack and 728 00:36:18,160 --> 00:36:19,240 Speaker 1: let it go now. 729 00:36:19,200 --> 00:36:21,600 Speaker 3: Just to keep the time and contuity of the play going, 730 00:36:22,160 --> 00:36:22,600 Speaker 3: like you know. 731 00:36:22,680 --> 00:36:25,279 Speaker 1: Smoke route, a slag quick out. You can't get it 732 00:36:25,360 --> 00:36:28,239 Speaker 1: like that, damn sure going to it's coming it's coming out. 733 00:36:28,320 --> 00:36:33,399 Speaker 1: It's coming out right away. And Benny curly and outside too. 734 00:36:34,040 --> 00:36:38,880 Speaker 2: Yes, yes, you're absolutely right, because when you're throwing one, two, 735 00:36:38,960 --> 00:36:42,319 Speaker 2: three balls gotta go uh huh cause them now they 736 00:36:42,440 --> 00:36:43,279 Speaker 2: driving on that now. 737 00:36:43,440 --> 00:36:45,360 Speaker 6: Yeah, And the funny and the funny thing about it. 738 00:36:45,400 --> 00:36:45,840 Speaker 3: Think about it. 739 00:36:45,880 --> 00:36:48,399 Speaker 1: We talking about the good dvs in the NFL. Them 740 00:36:48,440 --> 00:36:50,520 Speaker 1: first three the first three steps, and they not even 741 00:36:50,560 --> 00:36:53,400 Speaker 1: looking at the receiver. They looking at the quarterback exactly, 742 00:36:53,680 --> 00:36:56,040 Speaker 1: they looking at the quarterback. So once once that arm 743 00:36:56,160 --> 00:36:58,400 Speaker 1: is gone, the bu'st why the bust? What ball placement 744 00:36:58,440 --> 00:37:00,919 Speaker 1: is so important because the good and not even looking 745 00:37:00,960 --> 00:37:04,280 Speaker 1: at the receiver until after that fourth or fifth step, 746 00:37:04,960 --> 00:37:06,680 Speaker 1: that's how you that's how we get him on the 747 00:37:06,680 --> 00:37:09,880 Speaker 1: slugo because you do this yeas in the backfield, playing 748 00:37:09,920 --> 00:37:14,480 Speaker 1: around and not throwing your heads or they get the 749 00:37:14,480 --> 00:37:16,160 Speaker 1: stud the stutter go because you went it and he 750 00:37:16,239 --> 00:37:19,160 Speaker 1: drop his hep and the quarterback does that. 751 00:37:19,719 --> 00:37:20,200 Speaker 3: Yeah. 752 00:37:21,320 --> 00:37:24,120 Speaker 1: Hey as in DV when they double movie, you better 753 00:37:24,160 --> 00:37:25,520 Speaker 1: have hell of and hips in transition. 754 00:37:26,040 --> 00:37:29,520 Speaker 6: Oh yeah, no, just tackle it, beautiful hips to transition. 755 00:37:30,040 --> 00:37:30,640 Speaker 3: Just tackle it. 756 00:37:33,320 --> 00:37:36,640 Speaker 2: Just tackle it because because what he's gonna because what 757 00:37:36,680 --> 00:37:39,080 Speaker 2: he's gonna do is that he knows. Once you know 758 00:37:39,120 --> 00:37:41,000 Speaker 2: he be you start to come up, he's gonna get 759 00:37:41,080 --> 00:37:43,319 Speaker 2: he go get outside. He's gonna get outside, your brother, 760 00:37:43,520 --> 00:37:45,279 Speaker 2: So you might just hay tackle him. 761 00:37:45,280 --> 00:37:45,840 Speaker 3: If you're with it. 762 00:37:47,880 --> 00:37:49,839 Speaker 2: I'm not giving it I'm not giving up anything. I'm 763 00:37:49,840 --> 00:37:53,040 Speaker 2: not giving up anything cheap or deep. But I Tharty threw. Look, 764 00:37:53,360 --> 00:37:55,439 Speaker 2: I don't really take anything from anybody throwing the ball 765 00:37:55,480 --> 00:37:58,560 Speaker 2: in shorts and and thing, because that's not how you 766 00:37:58,600 --> 00:37:59,800 Speaker 2: play the game of football. 767 00:38:00,080 --> 00:38:03,160 Speaker 3: Right, What did when you watch the guy in shorts? 768 00:38:04,640 --> 00:38:04,719 Speaker 5: No? 769 00:38:04,960 --> 00:38:07,640 Speaker 2: Is he Lamar Jackson. As far as the athleticism, no, 770 00:38:07,960 --> 00:38:11,239 Speaker 2: does he have a Patrick Mahomes's arm. Note, but he 771 00:38:11,280 --> 00:38:14,399 Speaker 2: has an arm that's plenty good enough. Are you telling 772 00:38:14,440 --> 00:38:17,120 Speaker 2: me that, Tom Brady? Are you telling me Peyton Manning? 773 00:38:17,160 --> 00:38:19,120 Speaker 2: Are you telling me Philip Rivers? Are you telling me 774 00:38:19,200 --> 00:38:21,400 Speaker 2: Drew Brees or more athletic than you do it? 775 00:38:22,000 --> 00:38:22,640 Speaker 3: No? Than not? 776 00:38:22,800 --> 00:38:25,960 Speaker 1: No, And they got it done. I'm not saying he's 777 00:38:26,000 --> 00:38:28,280 Speaker 1: gonna be any of those guys. But we're talking about 778 00:38:28,320 --> 00:38:30,000 Speaker 1: just athleticism. 779 00:38:30,480 --> 00:38:32,520 Speaker 3: I mean, there ain't no guy I mean with this. 780 00:38:32,719 --> 00:38:37,360 Speaker 3: I mean, is he accurate? Could Kennedy? 781 00:38:37,640 --> 00:38:43,200 Speaker 1: He's not just accurate. He's insanely accurate, exactly, insanely can 782 00:38:43,239 --> 00:38:47,640 Speaker 1: throw every ball, and every ball he throws is catchable. Yes, 783 00:38:48,120 --> 00:38:50,000 Speaker 1: they got some receivers, I mean some. They got some 784 00:38:50,120 --> 00:38:52,560 Speaker 1: quartbacks out there. You know, throughout the years now they've 785 00:38:52,560 --> 00:38:55,839 Speaker 1: thrown a very difficult ball to catch. I agree all 786 00:38:55,920 --> 00:39:00,600 Speaker 1: I number four who your brother played for. You know, 787 00:39:00,760 --> 00:39:03,680 Speaker 1: tearing people hands up, splitting the web of their fingers, 788 00:39:04,960 --> 00:39:05,319 Speaker 1: you know that. 789 00:39:05,600 --> 00:39:06,960 Speaker 6: I mean he was a gunslinger. 790 00:39:06,960 --> 00:39:09,239 Speaker 3: That that's what he was known for. But you're doing 791 00:39:09,320 --> 00:39:10,320 Speaker 3: is extremely accurate. 792 00:39:10,400 --> 00:39:12,359 Speaker 2: He does a great job of thought and has great 793 00:39:12,360 --> 00:39:16,120 Speaker 2: anticipatory skills. Kills, Yes, great job. Got a great job 794 00:39:16,200 --> 00:39:20,240 Speaker 2: of throwing guys open. That's that's the difference between college 795 00:39:20,480 --> 00:39:23,160 Speaker 2: and the nflayer Right, even when you think the guy 796 00:39:23,320 --> 00:39:26,239 Speaker 2: is an open, you throw it open. Well, guy ain't 797 00:39:26,239 --> 00:39:28,080 Speaker 2: gonna be running or having no. Five and ten and 798 00:39:28,120 --> 00:39:31,720 Speaker 2: three yard separation. In the NFL, it's a plow coverage, 799 00:39:31,760 --> 00:39:34,040 Speaker 2: the guy falls down or something. But most of the 800 00:39:34,080 --> 00:39:36,680 Speaker 2: time you're gonna have to fit a ball into a 801 00:39:36,800 --> 00:39:37,480 Speaker 2: tight window. 802 00:39:37,600 --> 00:39:40,280 Speaker 1: And also something he doesn't get credit for. We always 803 00:39:40,320 --> 00:39:42,560 Speaker 1: bring up him not being a dual threat, not being 804 00:39:42,600 --> 00:39:45,640 Speaker 1: able to run, but his pocket presence, his pockety, has 805 00:39:45,719 --> 00:39:48,960 Speaker 1: great pocket presence and his ability in short area quickness 806 00:39:49,000 --> 00:39:51,640 Speaker 1: to be able to extend plays, not get away from 807 00:39:51,640 --> 00:39:55,120 Speaker 1: people like Lamar Jackson and Josh Allen, but extend plays 808 00:39:55,360 --> 00:39:56,600 Speaker 1: to make throws downfield. 809 00:39:56,640 --> 00:39:57,040 Speaker 6: He's been. 810 00:39:57,080 --> 00:39:58,840 Speaker 1: He's very good at that, especially if you if you 811 00:39:58,880 --> 00:40:01,560 Speaker 1: watch obviously we watch Colorado all last year, and we 812 00:40:01,640 --> 00:40:04,919 Speaker 1: understand that despite all the sacks he took because miss 813 00:40:05,040 --> 00:40:07,000 Speaker 1: we know one of the issues obviously with them was 814 00:40:07,040 --> 00:40:07,520 Speaker 1: their own. 815 00:40:07,400 --> 00:40:08,399 Speaker 3: Live wasn't very good. 816 00:40:08,520 --> 00:40:12,719 Speaker 2: Yeah, ain't ain't nowhere around at old Joe's offensive line 817 00:40:12,760 --> 00:40:15,160 Speaker 2: wasn't very good. It's not like it's not like we're 818 00:40:15,719 --> 00:40:19,640 Speaker 2: breaking news. You watched the game. There are some times 819 00:40:19,680 --> 00:40:20,960 Speaker 2: that he's gonna have to know, he's gonna have to 820 00:40:20,960 --> 00:40:23,359 Speaker 2: throw the ball away. Yeah, you gonna have to throw them. 821 00:40:23,360 --> 00:40:25,319 Speaker 2: You just throw the ball away. You live to see 822 00:40:25,360 --> 00:40:25,759 Speaker 2: another day. 823 00:40:25,800 --> 00:40:28,000 Speaker 1: You don't want to take that unnecessary punishment, and you 824 00:40:28,000 --> 00:40:29,840 Speaker 1: don't want to take your team out of field goal. 825 00:40:29,760 --> 00:40:31,759 Speaker 2: Range, or you don't want to make it third and 826 00:40:31,800 --> 00:40:34,080 Speaker 2: long or second along. Hey, throw the ball away. Live 827 00:40:34,120 --> 00:40:36,480 Speaker 2: to see another day. And that's comes with the maturity. 828 00:40:36,480 --> 00:40:39,080 Speaker 2: I mean, the guy's only years of eight, twenty two 829 00:40:39,160 --> 00:40:42,080 Speaker 2: years of age. Yeah, so it takes time and he'll 830 00:40:42,080 --> 00:40:45,279 Speaker 2: get better. The Peyton manning that you saw, the great 831 00:40:45,360 --> 00:40:48,200 Speaker 2: quarterbacks that you saw the rookie season, there weren't that 832 00:40:48,360 --> 00:40:50,799 Speaker 2: the midway through and at the tail end of their career, 833 00:40:50,880 --> 00:40:52,920 Speaker 2: they were better. We get better. 834 00:40:53,360 --> 00:40:55,920 Speaker 3: You learn more. Once you come to the NFL. 835 00:40:56,000 --> 00:40:59,000 Speaker 1: You start studying tape, you start watching, you pick up things, 836 00:40:59,000 --> 00:41:01,000 Speaker 1: and you self a valuate yourself. 837 00:41:01,480 --> 00:41:04,080 Speaker 2: That's what the really great was do and they'll value 838 00:41:04,160 --> 00:41:08,239 Speaker 2: they self. Evaluate yourself. Liked and that's who covered me. 839 00:41:08,680 --> 00:41:10,360 Speaker 2: But I tipped off this route. 840 00:41:10,520 --> 00:41:12,600 Speaker 1: But think about think about the names that you just said, 841 00:41:12,600 --> 00:41:14,800 Speaker 1: that Tom Brady, the Peyton Mannings when they first started, 842 00:41:14,840 --> 00:41:17,960 Speaker 1: where their years weren't exceptional as opposed to how they 843 00:41:18,040 --> 00:41:18,480 Speaker 1: ended up. 844 00:41:19,160 --> 00:41:20,839 Speaker 6: The saction doing done to go somewhere right. 845 00:41:21,160 --> 00:41:23,120 Speaker 1: You see how he talked in that person, what he said, 846 00:41:23,440 --> 00:41:26,480 Speaker 1: whoever seriously about me and won the franchise chain in quarterback? 847 00:41:26,760 --> 00:41:29,320 Speaker 6: That's who needs to sign me? Who said he didn't 848 00:41:29,320 --> 00:41:31,879 Speaker 6: come in and have a season like c. J. Shroud did? 849 00:41:31,960 --> 00:41:34,160 Speaker 6: Depending on where he goes, who say nothing, come in 850 00:41:34,160 --> 00:41:34,440 Speaker 6: and have. 851 00:41:34,680 --> 00:41:37,680 Speaker 1: A season like Jaydon and Daniels did with the Commanders, 852 00:41:37,800 --> 00:41:39,720 Speaker 1: depending on where you know, depending on where he goes. 853 00:41:40,120 --> 00:41:42,840 Speaker 1: But what if he has that belief where his presence 854 00:41:42,880 --> 00:41:45,719 Speaker 1: alone heidens everything else around him. 855 00:41:46,200 --> 00:41:47,920 Speaker 3: Who they gave him. 856 00:41:47,800 --> 00:41:50,440 Speaker 1: Go to the Commanders and turn the franchise around just 857 00:41:50,480 --> 00:41:55,680 Speaker 1: like that in six months they goes to Houston and 858 00:41:55,760 --> 00:41:58,720 Speaker 1: turns the texts around in six months. 859 00:41:59,160 --> 00:42:09,160 Speaker 6: Yep, come on, man, ain't no freak, Ain't no telling 860 00:42:09,239 --> 00:42:09,920 Speaker 6: what's gonna happen. 861 00:42:12,360 --> 00:42:16,239 Speaker 2: But hey, let's just give him an opportunity. Let's see 862 00:42:16,239 --> 00:42:19,319 Speaker 2: what Let's see where he goes hopefully goes someplace and 863 00:42:19,440 --> 00:42:23,120 Speaker 2: has a good offici coordinator, good head coach, have great 864 00:42:23,120 --> 00:42:25,359 Speaker 2: talent around him. Because if you go back and look, 865 00:42:25,360 --> 00:42:28,160 Speaker 2: oh yo, what did take? What did CEJ have around him? 866 00:42:28,480 --> 00:42:32,479 Speaker 2: Nico Collins tat Dale, Yeah, had Dalton Schultz. Yeah, nice 867 00:42:32,480 --> 00:42:35,399 Speaker 2: tight end. You get Jaye Daniels, had a nice feet. Hey, 868 00:42:35,440 --> 00:42:38,360 Speaker 2: they had zach Ertz that had Terry m scared. Terry McLaurin. 869 00:42:38,480 --> 00:42:41,120 Speaker 1: Uh huh, well, well listen, I like that. You just 870 00:42:41,160 --> 00:42:43,000 Speaker 1: broke them down. Now, look at the places that he 871 00:42:43,080 --> 00:42:46,839 Speaker 1: had the chance to go to. We got the Browns, right, 872 00:42:47,239 --> 00:42:51,440 Speaker 1: got an Joe coul We got we got Jerry Judy, 873 00:42:51,640 --> 00:42:54,000 Speaker 1: we got my rock runner. I'm not I'm not sure. 874 00:42:53,800 --> 00:42:56,040 Speaker 6: Who the number two is. Who's the number two receiver? 875 00:42:57,120 --> 00:42:59,279 Speaker 2: I forget the Goud I know you're talking about he 876 00:43:00,160 --> 00:43:03,640 Speaker 2: was okay, uh, but you know they once they moved 877 00:43:03,640 --> 00:43:07,239 Speaker 2: on from Amari, right, I forget the guy's names. 878 00:43:08,000 --> 00:43:09,560 Speaker 6: I can't remember. I can't remember myself. 879 00:43:09,600 --> 00:43:11,600 Speaker 1: But then okay, let's say if if let's say it's 880 00:43:11,640 --> 00:43:15,759 Speaker 1: not Cleveland, let's say the Giants, you got Malague, Namels. 881 00:43:16,000 --> 00:43:19,160 Speaker 3: Yep and Dari. I think Slaton is still there too, right. 882 00:43:20,280 --> 00:43:23,319 Speaker 3: We were just arguing on, you know, with Michael Parsons. 883 00:43:23,560 --> 00:43:27,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, come on, come on now, come on, 884 00:43:28,040 --> 00:43:30,759 Speaker 1: that we could we can, we can work with that. 885 00:43:31,600 --> 00:43:33,440 Speaker 2: I just think the thing is that sometimes we have 886 00:43:33,520 --> 00:43:35,680 Speaker 2: false perceptions that we think the guy coming in and 887 00:43:35,760 --> 00:43:38,239 Speaker 2: should be a finished product and that's the best he's 888 00:43:38,280 --> 00:43:41,279 Speaker 2: gonna be now, And they don't realize that these guys. 889 00:43:40,960 --> 00:43:42,360 Speaker 3: Have the opportunity to get better. 890 00:43:43,400 --> 00:43:45,480 Speaker 2: That's not the best, that that shouldn't be the best 891 00:43:45,480 --> 00:43:50,040 Speaker 2: that they that they that they are. They should uh 892 00:43:50,440 --> 00:43:54,760 Speaker 2: incrementally get better. And you work at it, you study, 893 00:43:55,040 --> 00:43:58,359 Speaker 2: you put the time in. Good things normally happen. So 894 00:43:59,760 --> 00:44:02,719 Speaker 2: uh what is Elijah Moore? 895 00:44:03,680 --> 00:44:04,520 Speaker 6: Oh, Elijah Moore? 896 00:44:04,920 --> 00:44:06,000 Speaker 3: Elijah, they got him? 897 00:44:06,040 --> 00:44:08,600 Speaker 2: I think they got him Clemson. 898 00:44:09,360 --> 00:44:18,280 Speaker 3: You can run some routes now, he got Cardinals. Huh. 899 00:44:18,440 --> 00:44:21,280 Speaker 2: Cedric Tillman, Where did Cedria Tillman come from? 900 00:44:21,600 --> 00:44:25,040 Speaker 3: Said Tillman? I played with a guy named Cedria Tillman 901 00:44:25,480 --> 00:44:26,840 Speaker 3: who went to Alcorn State. 902 00:44:27,480 --> 00:44:29,960 Speaker 1: Hey, I know Elijah Moore is where he can run 903 00:44:30,000 --> 00:44:32,759 Speaker 1: some routes bro Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, he's smaller, smaller guy, 904 00:44:33,160 --> 00:44:35,719 Speaker 1: good in the slots, but Jerry Judy is tremendous in 905 00:44:35,760 --> 00:44:36,080 Speaker 1: that slot. 906 00:44:36,200 --> 00:44:36,760 Speaker 3: Jered Judy. 907 00:44:37,200 --> 00:44:40,160 Speaker 1: I was happy for Jerry yeah yeah a head of 908 00:44:40,160 --> 00:44:43,560 Speaker 1: the season because look, he wasn't getting the opportunities. 909 00:44:43,840 --> 00:44:46,439 Speaker 2: They didn't have the quarterback. He go frustrated. I think 910 00:44:46,440 --> 00:44:49,040 Speaker 2: the thing is like when you it's easy when you're 911 00:44:49,040 --> 00:44:50,960 Speaker 2: a young receiver. Oh, you to get down because the 912 00:44:51,040 --> 00:44:54,200 Speaker 2: man start bulling you. Coach just pull you playing time, 913 00:44:54,280 --> 00:44:56,720 Speaker 2: and all of a sudden, you normally playing forty five plays, 914 00:44:56,760 --> 00:44:58,640 Speaker 2: you play at twenty. Well, how the hell you expect 915 00:44:58,640 --> 00:45:00,759 Speaker 2: me to show you something in twenty plays when uh 916 00:45:00,880 --> 00:45:03,640 Speaker 2: uh at least five of those the quarterbacks are gonna 917 00:45:03,640 --> 00:45:07,640 Speaker 2: get flushed. Yeah, another another five. I'm not the number 918 00:45:07,680 --> 00:45:09,480 Speaker 2: one option. I might be I might not even be 919 00:45:09,520 --> 00:45:12,040 Speaker 2: the second option. I might be third option and second 920 00:45:12,160 --> 00:45:14,600 Speaker 2: and two of those gonna be screened. He's gonna get 921 00:45:14,640 --> 00:45:16,920 Speaker 2: sacked on another three. So how the hell you expect 922 00:45:17,000 --> 00:45:18,960 Speaker 2: me to do something? Which when he plays and I'm 923 00:45:19,080 --> 00:45:21,200 Speaker 2: really only involved in about seven of them. 924 00:45:22,320 --> 00:45:27,319 Speaker 3: Mm A hey, I'm excited, man. 925 00:45:27,280 --> 00:45:28,479 Speaker 6: I can't wait for football season. 926 00:45:28,520 --> 00:45:28,800 Speaker 3: But like it. 927 00:45:29,560 --> 00:45:31,120 Speaker 6: When is the draft? The draft next week? 928 00:45:32,000 --> 00:45:33,960 Speaker 3: Yeah? He was there. He was there last year. Jamorrow, 929 00:45:34,000 --> 00:45:34,760 Speaker 3: He's not there anymorrow. 930 00:45:34,920 --> 00:45:36,959 Speaker 2: Joe he got last year because I remember him catching 931 00:45:36,960 --> 00:45:39,360 Speaker 2: a catching a couple of passes against the Broncos. 932 00:45:39,560 --> 00:45:40,279 Speaker 3: That's what the name. 933 00:45:41,760 --> 00:45:50,040 Speaker 2: But okay, uh, Jerry, Judy, Cedric Tillman, and some guy 934 00:45:50,080 --> 00:45:52,080 Speaker 2: named Michael Woods obviously, and Joe who's there. 935 00:45:52,560 --> 00:45:55,640 Speaker 6: Yeah, okay, what hell? We could work with that too. 936 00:45:56,640 --> 00:45:59,360 Speaker 3: We're good. Were good, We work with that. 937 00:46:07,160 --> 00:46:07,359 Speaker 4: Form. 938 00:46:07,400 --> 00:46:10,279 Speaker 2: Atlanta Falcons wide receiver Julio Jones one of the best 939 00:46:10,280 --> 00:46:11,719 Speaker 2: players in franchise history. 940 00:46:11,760 --> 00:46:13,880 Speaker 3: I now retirement from the NFL. 941 00:46:14,280 --> 00:46:17,080 Speaker 2: Jones a seven time Pro Bowl selection a two time 942 00:46:17,160 --> 00:46:21,040 Speaker 2: first team All Pro selection. During his thirteen NFL seasons, 943 00:46:21,160 --> 00:46:23,880 Speaker 2: he twice led the NFL in receiving yards twenty fifteen 944 00:46:23,880 --> 00:46:27,320 Speaker 2: to twenty eighteen, and he's the Falcons all time leader 945 00:46:27,520 --> 00:46:31,320 Speaker 2: in receptions eight hundred and forty eight receiving yards twelve 946 00:46:31,680 --> 00:46:35,279 Speaker 2: eight hundred and ninety six. His sixty receiving touchdowns mark 947 00:46:35,440 --> 00:46:41,000 Speaker 2: second in Falcons history behind Roddy White, how will you o, 948 00:46:41,200 --> 00:46:42,760 Speaker 2: Joe remember Julio. 949 00:46:43,200 --> 00:46:45,000 Speaker 6: Well, Julio Jones one of the best to ever played 950 00:46:45,000 --> 00:46:45,359 Speaker 6: this game. 951 00:46:45,400 --> 00:46:47,640 Speaker 1: Now now we talk, we talk about top five, we 952 00:46:47,680 --> 00:46:51,200 Speaker 1: talk about top listen might be might be top five 953 00:46:51,640 --> 00:46:54,080 Speaker 1: honestly to come out of Alabama. Man, one of the 954 00:46:54,120 --> 00:46:56,600 Speaker 1: greatest ever. I enjoyed watching Julio play. 955 00:46:56,880 --> 00:46:57,360 Speaker 3: Somebody. 956 00:46:57,560 --> 00:47:01,960 Speaker 1: It's so funny, right watching Julio Jones play. There's a 957 00:47:02,040 --> 00:47:04,480 Speaker 1: there's a young fellow down there at Ohio State that's 958 00:47:04,520 --> 00:47:09,440 Speaker 1: from Miami who looks just like even Oh yeah, Jeremiesh Smith, 959 00:47:09,440 --> 00:47:12,400 Speaker 1: who might be the second coming of Julio Jones. 960 00:47:12,760 --> 00:47:13,400 Speaker 6: But man, Julio. 961 00:47:13,480 --> 00:47:17,160 Speaker 1: Julio was awesome to watch man throughout his entire career. 962 00:47:17,520 --> 00:47:19,120 Speaker 1: Some of the things he could do on the field 963 00:47:19,120 --> 00:47:21,319 Speaker 1: of that three hundred yard game he had against the 964 00:47:21,320 --> 00:47:25,000 Speaker 1: Carolina Panthers was unbelievable. When he snatched that guy there 965 00:47:25,000 --> 00:47:27,000 Speaker 1: in ball off the top of Luke Luke Cuekley head 966 00:47:27,000 --> 00:47:28,600 Speaker 1: at that time, when he snatched that. 967 00:47:28,560 --> 00:47:31,200 Speaker 6: Ball away from Malcolm Butler in the end zone for 968 00:47:31,239 --> 00:47:31,680 Speaker 6: that touch. 969 00:47:31,880 --> 00:47:32,120 Speaker 3: Man. 970 00:47:32,400 --> 00:47:35,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, there's some great highlights of Julio Jones. Pulio, I 971 00:47:35,920 --> 00:47:37,880 Speaker 1: know you're gonna see this boy. I've always been a 972 00:47:37,960 --> 00:47:39,680 Speaker 1: fan of yours. I've always showed you your love and 973 00:47:39,719 --> 00:47:41,960 Speaker 1: gave you your flowers while he was actually still playing. 974 00:47:42,400 --> 00:47:45,560 Speaker 1: I'm still a fan to this day. You're gonna get 975 00:47:45,560 --> 00:47:47,799 Speaker 1: you that gold jacket because you're definitely a Hall of 976 00:47:47,800 --> 00:47:51,360 Speaker 1: Famer and you top five in my book. You know, 977 00:47:51,560 --> 00:47:53,520 Speaker 1: I would have to shuffle the five round a little bit, 978 00:47:53,760 --> 00:47:56,360 Speaker 1: but you belong in it. I salute you in a 979 00:47:56,400 --> 00:48:02,000 Speaker 1: great career. And uh that's it. You think he nice, amazing, 980 00:48:03,560 --> 00:48:05,840 Speaker 1: consummate pro, had a great career. 981 00:48:05,880 --> 00:48:08,320 Speaker 2: I wish he could have finished his career in Atlanta comes, 982 00:48:08,360 --> 00:48:11,359 Speaker 2: you know, bouncing around, no show. He went to, well, 983 00:48:11,360 --> 00:48:13,120 Speaker 2: he went to I think he went to He went 984 00:48:13,160 --> 00:48:18,399 Speaker 2: to Tennessee after he left that right, Yeah, to Tennessee, Tampa, to. 985 00:48:18,640 --> 00:48:23,640 Speaker 3: Tampa, and he went to New England, Philly, Philip. Yeah, man, 986 00:48:23,920 --> 00:48:28,799 Speaker 3: he had a man. 987 00:48:29,120 --> 00:48:32,160 Speaker 2: If only, if only they could have closed out that 988 00:48:32,400 --> 00:48:36,040 Speaker 2: Super Bowl three game, and he had he had an 989 00:48:36,080 --> 00:48:38,759 Speaker 2: amazing catch that had him at field goal right on. 990 00:48:38,840 --> 00:48:40,480 Speaker 6: The sideline, right on the sideline. 991 00:48:40,760 --> 00:48:43,399 Speaker 3: Yeah see. 992 00:48:43,520 --> 00:48:46,759 Speaker 2: Bushati, owner of the Raven Ravens, said he's ready for 993 00:48:46,800 --> 00:48:48,759 Speaker 2: his team to break through the ceiling and make it 994 00:48:48,760 --> 00:48:50,040 Speaker 2: to the biggest game of the year. 995 00:48:50,320 --> 00:48:52,120 Speaker 3: Bashadi said he doesn't like. 996 00:48:52,080 --> 00:48:55,359 Speaker 2: Waiting twelve years and he thinks impatience is good for 997 00:48:55,400 --> 00:48:58,120 Speaker 2: you when it comes to competing for titles. He also 998 00:48:58,239 --> 00:49:01,799 Speaker 2: made it clear I want to win. Now we've got 999 00:49:01,800 --> 00:49:04,120 Speaker 2: a winder with Lamar. I know what we can do. 1000 00:49:04,480 --> 00:49:08,080 Speaker 2: I know that we worked to put ourselves in position 1001 00:49:08,160 --> 00:49:11,759 Speaker 2: to win. We all get credit for that. That's all 1002 00:49:11,800 --> 00:49:14,239 Speaker 2: you can do. I hate it that every year you 1003 00:49:14,400 --> 00:49:16,799 Speaker 2: just have to start back over again. But you know what, 1004 00:49:17,520 --> 00:49:20,960 Speaker 2: this is not for the meek. The Chiefs Bills have 1005 00:49:21,160 --> 00:49:24,520 Speaker 2: ended the Raven season last year. What would be different 1006 00:49:24,880 --> 00:49:25,279 Speaker 2: this year? 1007 00:49:25,280 --> 00:49:25,600 Speaker 3: O Joe? 1008 00:49:26,960 --> 00:49:29,080 Speaker 6: I mean, listen, it all comes down to two things. 1009 00:49:29,280 --> 00:49:29,880 Speaker 3: Turnovers. 1010 00:49:30,120 --> 00:49:33,759 Speaker 1: That's all it comes down to in those games when 1011 00:49:33,800 --> 00:49:37,440 Speaker 1: they've lost, even though they've been able to overcome. Lamar's 1012 00:49:37,480 --> 00:49:40,040 Speaker 1: been able to overcome some of the turnovers, early turnovers. 1013 00:49:39,680 --> 00:49:40,200 Speaker 3: In the game. 1014 00:49:40,280 --> 00:49:42,600 Speaker 1: Later game obviously we know how it ended with Andrew 1015 00:49:42,640 --> 00:49:44,719 Speaker 1: dropping the ball and have an opportunity to tie the game, 1016 00:49:45,080 --> 00:49:47,280 Speaker 1: not knowing what would happen going into the second half 1017 00:49:47,360 --> 00:49:52,520 Speaker 1: or overtime at that point. But still listen about him, 1018 00:49:52,560 --> 00:49:55,360 Speaker 1: saying Bashadi in general saying he's impatient. He wants to 1019 00:49:55,400 --> 00:49:58,319 Speaker 1: win now. As long as you have number eight at 1020 00:49:58,320 --> 00:50:01,000 Speaker 1: the hem, as long as they haven't made in him, 1021 00:50:01,000 --> 00:50:01,560 Speaker 1: you're gonna. 1022 00:50:01,400 --> 00:50:02,200 Speaker 3: Always have a chance. 1023 00:50:03,280 --> 00:50:05,200 Speaker 1: Every time there are a few quarterbacks in the league. 1024 00:50:05,800 --> 00:50:08,480 Speaker 1: They're thirty two teams. There may be five or six 1025 00:50:08,560 --> 00:50:13,200 Speaker 1: quarterbacks that are going to be in contention every single year. 1026 00:50:13,320 --> 00:50:15,600 Speaker 1: You can have a goddamn blind right, I guarantee it 1027 00:50:15,600 --> 00:50:18,440 Speaker 1: will get in the playoffs. The Baltimore Ravens is one 1028 00:50:18,440 --> 00:50:24,240 Speaker 1: of them. His longest Number eight is upright alive, and well, 1029 00:50:24,560 --> 00:50:26,480 Speaker 1: you got a shot every time. Now, all you have 1030 00:50:26,520 --> 00:50:28,200 Speaker 1: to do is just finish it off in the postseason. 1031 00:50:28,600 --> 00:50:29,000 Speaker 6: That's it. 1032 00:50:29,360 --> 00:50:32,719 Speaker 1: Eliminate the turnovers that's been your Achilles hill so far. 1033 00:50:33,200 --> 00:50:36,640 Speaker 1: Once you made it so they think they're gonna be alright, 1034 00:50:36,640 --> 00:50:38,800 Speaker 1: they're gonna be alright. He has nothing to worry about. 1035 00:50:39,160 --> 00:50:41,200 Speaker 1: Just the simple fact that the AFC North has run 1036 00:50:41,239 --> 00:50:46,399 Speaker 1: through Cincinnati. That's the only problem. No, oh Joe, check 1037 00:50:46,480 --> 00:50:49,759 Speaker 1: this out. Lamar Jackson is challenging NASCAR legend Dale R. 1038 00:50:49,800 --> 00:50:53,399 Speaker 1: Hart Junior from the Number eight trademark. Lamar says it's 1039 00:50:53,440 --> 00:50:55,399 Speaker 1: too close to Era eight brand name. 1040 00:50:55,840 --> 00:50:58,880 Speaker 2: Jackson fired a similar trademark opposition to Troit eight minute 1041 00:50:58,880 --> 00:51:01,320 Speaker 2: twenty twenty four, and they're still battling. 1042 00:51:01,560 --> 00:51:06,000 Speaker 1: Oh Joe Lamar Versus Dale Jr. Who owns the number eight. 1043 00:51:07,560 --> 00:51:10,759 Speaker 3: Oh Man, listen deal Dale Junior. We talked about an icon, 1044 00:51:11,000 --> 00:51:12,799 Speaker 3: talking about the icon in the in the in the 1045 00:51:12,880 --> 00:51:13,439 Speaker 3: racing world. 1046 00:51:13,880 --> 00:51:16,600 Speaker 1: Uh, someone that's been around for a very long time, Listen, 1047 00:51:16,719 --> 00:51:18,839 Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson still has a ways to go. He's an 1048 00:51:19,040 --> 00:51:21,560 Speaker 1: icon in his own right. And what he's doing down 1049 00:51:21,600 --> 00:51:27,040 Speaker 1: in Baltimore as a quarterback in general, you know, he's 1050 00:51:27,080 --> 00:51:30,719 Speaker 1: continuing to seement his legacy at some point. Once he 1051 00:51:30,840 --> 00:51:32,400 Speaker 1: gets that, once he gets that ring, he's going to 1052 00:51:32,480 --> 00:51:35,560 Speaker 1: solidify that. Still one of the all time greats right now. 1053 00:51:36,040 --> 00:51:39,120 Speaker 1: But but that ad that earon hart a unk Dale, 1054 00:51:40,280 --> 00:51:43,839 Speaker 1: it's different. I mean, it's so hard that that that 1055 00:51:43,920 --> 00:51:47,400 Speaker 1: ain't represents something else that's that's it's iconic. 1056 00:51:47,880 --> 00:51:50,960 Speaker 3: It's hard that last name alone. Uh. 1057 00:51:51,320 --> 00:51:53,120 Speaker 2: I mean when it comes to a number, the only 1058 00:51:53,200 --> 00:51:55,839 Speaker 2: number that you that's anonymous is twenty three. 1059 00:51:56,160 --> 00:51:59,479 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, he's twenty three. 1060 00:52:00,680 --> 00:52:03,680 Speaker 2: That's really the only number that's anonymous with Look, I 1061 00:52:03,760 --> 00:52:07,759 Speaker 2: understand that Davey retired, you know, Magic was thirty three 1062 00:52:07,800 --> 00:52:09,800 Speaker 2: in college, But Kareem had thirty three, and so he 1063 00:52:09,880 --> 00:52:13,200 Speaker 2: slid to thirty two and boom, Shaq was thirty What 1064 00:52:13,560 --> 00:52:17,120 Speaker 2: was Shaq? Shaq was thirty two in Orlando, but he 1065 00:52:17,200 --> 00:52:19,040 Speaker 2: ended up going to thirty four. So I get it. 1066 00:52:19,239 --> 00:52:25,960 Speaker 2: But when you think the numbers mm hmm, yeah, it's 1067 00:52:26,160 --> 00:52:27,839 Speaker 2: gonna be hard. I mean, you know, I think Troy 1068 00:52:27,880 --> 00:52:29,880 Speaker 2: Aidman got a beer called I think he has a 1069 00:52:29,880 --> 00:52:31,720 Speaker 2: beer called eight or something. 1070 00:52:31,800 --> 00:52:34,359 Speaker 1: If I'm not mistaken, I think he does. Oh yeah, 1071 00:52:34,360 --> 00:52:35,279 Speaker 1: I think he has a beer. 1072 00:52:36,440 --> 00:52:39,840 Speaker 2: I think I think I mean, don't quote me on 1073 00:52:39,880 --> 00:52:41,760 Speaker 2: that on Joe, but I think I was reading something 1074 00:52:42,000 --> 00:52:43,359 Speaker 2: that he has a beer called eight. 1075 00:52:45,920 --> 00:52:46,279 Speaker 3: You know what. 1076 00:52:46,400 --> 00:52:48,200 Speaker 1: Hell, I got my phone over here, I'll look it up. 1077 00:52:51,520 --> 00:52:53,680 Speaker 1: It's e I. G. T. H. Yes, he does have 1078 00:52:53,680 --> 00:52:57,800 Speaker 1: a beer called eight. Yeah, yep, low car, low caliber. 1079 00:53:00,520 --> 00:53:01,279 Speaker 6: You know, it's something. 1080 00:53:01,400 --> 00:53:04,680 Speaker 1: It's it's certain players like when you see their number, 1081 00:53:05,160 --> 00:53:08,360 Speaker 1: when you see a certain yea, a certain player resonates 1082 00:53:08,360 --> 00:53:10,480 Speaker 1: for this number of regards of what team, regards of 1083 00:53:10,520 --> 00:53:13,080 Speaker 1: the color of a jersey. You know, I ain't trying 1084 00:53:13,080 --> 00:53:15,000 Speaker 1: to two mow on home. Yeah, but when you see 1085 00:53:15,160 --> 00:53:17,560 Speaker 1: when you see eighty five for for the for the 1086 00:53:17,560 --> 00:53:20,680 Speaker 1: most part, I think the Curtis resonates. 1087 00:53:21,560 --> 00:53:22,200 Speaker 3: Oh that's show. 1088 00:53:22,600 --> 00:53:28,160 Speaker 6: Oh Betsy, I'm just saying. I listen, I'm with you right. 1089 00:53:28,200 --> 00:53:30,400 Speaker 1: When you see that twelve, you know it resonates with 1090 00:53:31,160 --> 00:53:33,520 Speaker 1: you know, Tom Brady, when you see fifteen for the 1091 00:53:33,560 --> 00:53:35,600 Speaker 1: for the most part, even though he's still playing. 1092 00:53:36,400 --> 00:53:38,359 Speaker 3: You know, you think of Pastrion. 1093 00:53:38,200 --> 00:53:43,160 Speaker 2: Yeah you Anne, you know what not in nine eels 1094 00:53:43,400 --> 00:53:45,719 Speaker 2: the Great One, gret Ski. 1095 00:53:48,160 --> 00:53:51,200 Speaker 3: The great one. Oh wait, listen, as great as he is, 1096 00:53:52,320 --> 00:53:54,839 Speaker 3: there's only three goals away. You know that matter three 1097 00:53:55,000 --> 00:53:55,400 Speaker 3: three three? 1098 00:53:55,920 --> 00:53:59,239 Speaker 2: Yeah, but a the great well when he gets nine 1099 00:53:59,280 --> 00:54:01,120 Speaker 2: hard trophies, get a road talk to me. 1100 00:54:01,280 --> 00:54:05,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, it's different, Hey speaking, I think Obie. I 1101 00:54:05,920 --> 00:54:09,919 Speaker 1: think Obie were Ovaxxanquar eight two, Lamar Jackson has. Lamar 1102 00:54:10,000 --> 00:54:12,840 Speaker 1: Jackson's one of those players. As he continues to play 1103 00:54:12,840 --> 00:54:15,720 Speaker 1: and play well throughout his career, whether he wins, whether 1104 00:54:15,760 --> 00:54:19,040 Speaker 1: he wins a rink or not, that number eight can 1105 00:54:19,080 --> 00:54:21,360 Speaker 1: resonate with him when he's when he's gone and done playing, 1106 00:54:21,360 --> 00:54:23,960 Speaker 1: that number eight can also resonate Yah and remembering him. 1107 00:54:24,080 --> 00:54:27,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, look, we're not saying anything, but the 1108 00:54:27,160 --> 00:54:29,680 Speaker 2: first thing is somebody say ninety nine I'm thinking Gretzky, 1109 00:54:29,800 --> 00:54:31,440 Speaker 2: so I think give me the famous ninety nine. 1110 00:54:31,520 --> 00:54:32,480 Speaker 3: I'm gonna thank Gretzky. 1111 00:54:32,960 --> 00:54:34,880 Speaker 2: Now you wanna say if you're a Yankee fan, you 1112 00:54:34,880 --> 00:54:36,760 Speaker 2: want to say Aaron Judge, or you're a Bucks fan. 1113 00:54:36,960 --> 00:54:40,560 Speaker 2: I know, Sap, sap, my boy sap. Yeah, but come on, now, 1114 00:54:41,880 --> 00:54:42,480 Speaker 2: come on now. 1115 00:54:45,920 --> 00:54:49,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, hold on, I thought I thought Dale Junior was 1116 00:54:49,719 --> 00:54:50,239 Speaker 1: eighty eight. 1117 00:54:51,480 --> 00:54:57,680 Speaker 3: How did he get why? Why? Why? If Dale won't 1118 00:54:57,760 --> 00:55:00,239 Speaker 3: I thought Dale Junior drove drove to eighty eight? Are 1119 00:55:07,520 --> 00:55:09,120 Speaker 3: eighty eight? If too close to eight? 1120 00:55:15,000 --> 00:55:21,439 Speaker 2: Hold on, well, hold on, Lamar says, era eighty eight. 1121 00:55:22,440 --> 00:55:23,919 Speaker 2: It is too close to era eight. 1122 00:55:26,719 --> 00:55:29,480 Speaker 1: Oh maybe maybe maybe the maybe the spelling, maybe the 1123 00:55:29,480 --> 00:55:32,440 Speaker 1: way it's spelled. I mean I can't see it in 1124 00:55:32,480 --> 00:55:35,000 Speaker 1: front of me, you know, for for contact purposes. He said, 1125 00:55:35,239 --> 00:55:41,360 Speaker 1: e r A e r A eight Era eight, okay, 1126 00:55:41,520 --> 00:55:43,440 Speaker 1: eighty I don't know, but I don't know. 1127 00:55:43,640 --> 00:55:46,960 Speaker 3: That's that's a stretch there. Yes, it's kind of close. 1128 00:55:48,040 --> 00:55:50,520 Speaker 1: And usually when you when you trademark something, you wanted 1129 00:55:50,520 --> 00:55:54,399 Speaker 1: to stand the yesself and that that that that those 1130 00:55:54,480 --> 00:55:58,759 Speaker 1: two it kind of coincides a little bit, and it's yeah, 1131 00:55:59,760 --> 00:56:00,520 Speaker 1: two similar. 1132 00:56:02,360 --> 00:56:03,960 Speaker 2: Let me see what I got of luck. Lookle bits 1133 00:56:04,040 --> 00:56:14,719 Speaker 2: up Jojo, because I know his dad was the number three. 1134 00:56:16,239 --> 00:56:22,400 Speaker 6: Oh yeah, legend. 1135 00:56:25,200 --> 00:56:27,399 Speaker 3: No, he drove, he drove eighty eight and he drove 1136 00:56:27,440 --> 00:56:31,600 Speaker 3: eight mm hmm. I think the eight eight car was 1137 00:56:31,640 --> 00:56:32,280 Speaker 3: all white. 1138 00:56:32,480 --> 00:56:35,040 Speaker 1: I'm not sure who the sponsor was. I remember it 1139 00:56:35,120 --> 00:56:37,000 Speaker 1: was all white. I can't remember who the sponsors were 1140 00:56:37,000 --> 00:56:39,440 Speaker 1: at the time. You know, I hadn't been to a 1141 00:56:39,440 --> 00:56:44,920 Speaker 1: few NASCAR races. On you've been a NASCAR It sat outside, listen. 1142 00:56:45,000 --> 00:56:47,320 Speaker 1: That's one of the that's one of the best dates. 1143 00:56:47,400 --> 00:56:49,400 Speaker 1: When you first meet somebody and you want to do 1144 00:56:49,440 --> 00:56:52,920 Speaker 1: something different, something that obviously the woman you're dating has 1145 00:56:52,920 --> 00:56:55,560 Speaker 1: never experienced. Take it to a NASCAR Take it to 1146 00:56:55,600 --> 00:56:57,120 Speaker 1: a NASCAR race and sit outside. 1147 00:56:57,880 --> 00:56:59,279 Speaker 3: Man, they don't like that. I don't know if they 1148 00:56:59,280 --> 00:57:01,160 Speaker 3: could take that noise. Joe. 1149 00:57:01,719 --> 00:57:06,000 Speaker 1: Hey, hey, it's different, but put your ear plugs in 1150 00:57:06,040 --> 00:57:07,840 Speaker 1: if that's the problem. 1151 00:57:08,200 --> 00:57:09,480 Speaker 6: It's different. It's different. 1152 00:57:09,480 --> 00:57:09,839 Speaker 3: It's fun. 1153 00:57:09,880 --> 00:57:11,279 Speaker 6: Get you get your hot dog, gets your beer. 1154 00:57:11,360 --> 00:57:13,400 Speaker 3: Obviously I don't drink. I have my coconut, get my 1155 00:57:13,400 --> 00:57:14,800 Speaker 3: hot dog, you know, popcorn. 1156 00:57:15,239 --> 00:57:15,680 Speaker 6: Sat there. 1157 00:57:15,680 --> 00:57:18,720 Speaker 3: A great conversation, you know, watch it, watch the cars going. 1158 00:57:19,400 --> 00:57:20,840 Speaker 3: But that's neither here nor there. 1159 00:57:20,880 --> 00:57:22,760 Speaker 1: But it's just a great date for anybody in the 1160 00:57:22,840 --> 00:57:25,040 Speaker 1: chat that that that one idea on what it takes 1161 00:57:25,080 --> 00:57:27,800 Speaker 1: somebody that they just met, somebody that you already know 1162 00:57:28,640 --> 00:57:29,360 Speaker 1: NASCAR race. 1163 00:57:30,440 --> 00:57:31,800 Speaker 3: If she can't sit there with you, she. 1164 00:57:31,720 --> 00:57:34,160 Speaker 1: Don't deserve nothing, none of the finer things in life, 1165 00:57:34,160 --> 00:57:35,200 Speaker 1: and she don't like NASCAR. 1166 00:57:40,080 --> 00:57:43,960 Speaker 2: They all have trademark eight, not eighty eight. Okay, so 1167 00:57:44,000 --> 00:57:48,080 Speaker 2: he tried to I don't Oh, yeah, I don't know. 1168 00:57:54,520 --> 00:57:58,520 Speaker 3: Troy has trademark eight. Its spelled out. 1169 00:58:02,280 --> 00:58:05,720 Speaker 2: I mean, numbers are hard to trademark, O Joe, because 1170 00:58:05,720 --> 00:58:09,320 Speaker 2: they're like, well, who they're blowing to you ain't created. Yeah, 1171 00:58:09,560 --> 00:58:14,680 Speaker 2: it's hard to trademark a number. I mean slogans like 1172 00:58:14,720 --> 00:58:17,200 Speaker 2: the three. Pat pat Riley owns that. When he coined 1173 00:58:17,240 --> 00:58:20,880 Speaker 2: the phrase, he got top of righted, Yeah, Louke, Louke, 1174 00:58:21,040 --> 00:58:23,760 Speaker 2: I was heard here. Lou will tell the story what 1175 00:58:23,960 --> 00:58:27,080 Speaker 2: I called him Lemon pepper Lou. He asked, Pat, bail 1176 00:58:27,160 --> 00:58:29,400 Speaker 2: you think it's gonna stick. Pat said, it's already unstuck. 1177 00:58:29,720 --> 00:58:32,720 Speaker 2: He went out and got lemon pepper lou lou Will 1178 00:58:32,840 --> 00:58:35,480 Speaker 2: you know he got Hey. I'm just happy that he 1179 00:58:35,640 --> 00:58:37,959 Speaker 2: liked the name. That's it. 1180 00:58:38,760 --> 00:58:39,000 Speaker 1: I have. 1181 00:58:40,800 --> 00:58:42,480 Speaker 2: I was just being funny, you know, because you know 1182 00:58:42,520 --> 00:58:44,720 Speaker 2: we were talking about we go get the wings, O Joe. 1183 00:58:45,600 --> 00:58:47,400 Speaker 3: Yeah. And I'm still I'm still a waiting us to 1184 00:58:47,440 --> 00:58:49,080 Speaker 3: take that trip to go get them wings. We ain't 1185 00:58:49,080 --> 00:58:49,480 Speaker 3: ben Yo. 1186 00:58:49,760 --> 00:58:52,240 Speaker 1: I'm trying to see what all we're gonna hear. Changed 1187 00:58:52,240 --> 00:58:53,320 Speaker 1: spot to candle Land