WEBVTT - Cowboys Break: Free Agency Preview

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<v Speaker 1>The following Here's a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com

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<v Speaker 1>and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. Are you ready for

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<v Speaker 1>a break? Yes? Are you ready for a break? Absolutely?

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<v Speaker 1>Ready for a break? Yeah, and so much for that.

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<v Speaker 1>It's time for The Break on Dallas Cowboys dot Com

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<v Speaker 1>wa with Nick Eatman, David Hellman, and bar Garcia and

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<v Speaker 1>Derek Eagleton. It is Wednesday, March seventh, twenty eighteen, Season thirteen,

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<v Speaker 1>episode number one oh four. Welcome to another edition of

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<v Speaker 1>The Break, live from the s WBC Mortgage Studios at

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<v Speaker 1>the Star. Happy to be back in studio with all

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<v Speaker 1>of our crew here. It seems like it's in the offseason.

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<v Speaker 1>See sick, way too much time between our shows. And

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<v Speaker 1>actually we'll have a little bit of a disconnect again

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<v Speaker 1>next week. I'll be out next week and then maybe

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<v Speaker 1>back for a week and then out for like two

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<v Speaker 1>or three weeks after that. So we'll figure out something

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<v Speaker 1>to keep us keep us going here. How's everybody doing

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<v Speaker 1>this morning? Great? Thanks for asking, We're doing well. You

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<v Speaker 1>didn't say you say it more brand. How are you

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<v Speaker 1>doing guys, Hey, thank you Amber, You did that well.

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<v Speaker 1>How are you this morning? Yeah? Yeah, yeah, good trying

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<v Speaker 1>to practice my English again. It's been a while. I

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<v Speaker 1>saw that. Was that a dig at us or was

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<v Speaker 1>that a dig at your Spanish? I don't know. I

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<v Speaker 1>mean it was to find out that I was on

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<v Speaker 1>the show again. So those that don't know, I think

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<v Speaker 1>Amber was taking a shot because she wasn't on the

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<v Speaker 1>show last week. But yeah, we're okay. Yeah, well she's

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<v Speaker 1>been on vacation though. How that go? It was great? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>great time. Uh, glad to be back my land where

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<v Speaker 1>people speak my language. So that was good. But I'm

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<v Speaker 1>glad to be back on my other land. Good, my

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<v Speaker 1>other homeland. Good, good Land sounds so official land. And

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<v Speaker 1>then this is the homeland U States. Yeah, got it good? Great?

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<v Speaker 1>From when I go through homeline security, you know we're

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<v Speaker 1>doing anyways from Cowboys Cowboys, we got a lot to

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<v Speaker 1>talk about. There is um free agency starts next week

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<v Speaker 1>next Wednesday, I think it is free agency will begin.

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<v Speaker 1>Cowboys will have some free agents that they will have

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<v Speaker 1>to decide on what they're gonna do with those guys,

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<v Speaker 1>as will all teams around the league. And then but

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<v Speaker 1>before we get to that, and I want to go

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<v Speaker 1>through our list of free agents that the Cowboys will

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<v Speaker 1>have to make decisions on. But before we get to that,

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<v Speaker 1>I do want to talk about DeMarcus Lawrence, who this

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<v Speaker 1>last Just in the last couple of days, the Cowboys

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<v Speaker 1>have made it official. They have put the franchise tag

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<v Speaker 1>on him. So let's start first we kind of the

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<v Speaker 1>basics of that. How much it with this deal? How

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<v Speaker 1>much is DeMarcus Lawrence guaranteed? And what's left for the

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<v Speaker 1>Cowboys from the standpoint of the mouth, they have under

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<v Speaker 1>the cap at this point, twelve dollars. Twelve dollars, that's

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<v Speaker 1>how much they have right now in the cap, maybe

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<v Speaker 1>like ten to fifty depend I'm just kidding. It's down there.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not a lot. It's not a lot. Man. They

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<v Speaker 1>can move things around. I mean, it just sounds dramatic.

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<v Speaker 1>I've been but like I've been trying to get to

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<v Speaker 1>the bottom of that, because depending on where you look,

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<v Speaker 1>there's about nine different answers, like right, That's why that

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<v Speaker 1>range from like one hundred and fifty thousand or and

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<v Speaker 1>I saw I think the highest one I saw was

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<v Speaker 1>like one point five million. There's some as well as

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<v Speaker 1>twelve thousand dollars. There's some that have them even as

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<v Speaker 1>high as seven million when you include rollover from last

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<v Speaker 1>year's because the Cowboys spent the least of anybody in

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<v Speaker 1>the league against the salary cap last years, and you

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<v Speaker 1>can roll some of that money over. So again, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>and that all factors in, they're working with not a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of money, however you want to look at it.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's more than twelve thousand dollars, but it's

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<v Speaker 1>not a lot. But I'll be totally honest with you,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't I don't know any projection that I one

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<v Speaker 1>hundred percent trust that is one hundred percent accurate. But

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<v Speaker 1>with the tag, the tag this year set the cost

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<v Speaker 1>seventeen and a half million dollars, it's fully guaranteed, which

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<v Speaker 1>I think this is worth pointing out. DeMarcus has signed

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<v Speaker 1>his tender, which you don't have to do. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>if you remember, Dez famously did not sign it. He

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<v Speaker 1>held out all the way till the July deadline, threatened

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<v Speaker 1>many times not to play unless he got his five

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<v Speaker 1>year deal, which he did I think three hours before

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<v Speaker 1>the deadline passed. So DeMarcus is cool with this. He's

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<v Speaker 1>you know, he's going to play on the one year

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<v Speaker 1>deal if they can get something done before the season starts. Great,

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<v Speaker 1>But it's from hearing his quotes that he's given in

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<v Speaker 1>them to a couple other reporters out there, it sounds

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<v Speaker 1>like he's ready to do a prove it deal and

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<v Speaker 1>try to really break the bank next year, which at

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<v Speaker 1>his position is a very doable thing. If he can

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<v Speaker 1>have another year like he had last year his double

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<v Speaker 1>digit sacks again next year, he'll be in position where

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<v Speaker 1>he can command a staggering amount of money, because that's

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<v Speaker 1>one of those positions where it's not you know, defensive

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<v Speaker 1>ends are never really tagged to wins and losses. No

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<v Speaker 1>one cares about wins and losses. You have one stat

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<v Speaker 1>that's really it. You have one stat. No one cares

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<v Speaker 1>about tackles and tackles for loss and where your defense

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<v Speaker 1>was ranked, you could be one of the worst teams.

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<v Speaker 1>But if you get seventeen sacks like Dwight Freeney kind

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<v Speaker 1>of made a career out of that, and think about that,

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<v Speaker 1>that means one play a game. How many snaps are

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<v Speaker 1>there defensively in again sixty seventy you get one sack

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<v Speaker 1>per game and you're gonna be among the league leaders.

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<v Speaker 1>So you're right and it's not, and I don't want

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<v Speaker 1>to diminish it's hard. I think to get the quarterback

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<v Speaker 1>and bring him down, that's hard. But the fact of

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<v Speaker 1>the matter is if you can do that once a game,

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<v Speaker 1>you will set yourself up. He's setting it. He would

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<v Speaker 1>set himself up for a really nice contract. Now here's

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<v Speaker 1>the question. Even after this year, the Cowboys could come

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<v Speaker 1>back enfranchise him again next year? Correct, I could. It

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<v Speaker 1>will be expensive, but they certainly could do it right,

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<v Speaker 1>It would be very expensive to do that, Yeah, but

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<v Speaker 1>yeah they could. I think the vibe in the building

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<v Speaker 1>too is let's let's let them do it again. I

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<v Speaker 1>think they're more afraid of you think they're okay with

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<v Speaker 1>that too, I really do. I think the seventeen million

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<v Speaker 1>is where he's going to play on them. Yeah, they

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<v Speaker 1>could trying to get another deal. But oh, to be clear,

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<v Speaker 1>I agree with you, and that's you know. Stephen said

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<v Speaker 1>this at the combine last week before this happened, that yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it looks dire in terms of the cap when you're

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<v Speaker 1>carrying that kind of charge, But they're fine and they're

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<v Speaker 1>comfortable with where they are. They believe that they can

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<v Speaker 1>get done what they want to get done without having

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<v Speaker 1>to do anything. And somebody asked me this morning. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>people keep saying, like cap casualties, they don't have to

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<v Speaker 1>be any like that. I mean, they could. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>the Dez thing is famous. You know, it's well documented.

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<v Speaker 1>People have talked about Orlando Scandrick. But this isn't like

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<v Speaker 1>past years where they've got to make decisions to get

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<v Speaker 1>under the cap. Like even with this charge, they're they're fine,

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<v Speaker 1>Oh well, he doesn't get hurt. That's one of the

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<v Speaker 1>things that I think about. And you know, good for

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<v Speaker 1>him that he got this deal signed, But he's at

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<v Speaker 1>that point where I don't think many people can fully

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<v Speaker 1>just bet on him one hundred percent his health just

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<v Speaker 1>we'll see what happens. I mean, he could have made

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<v Speaker 1>a great deal now with the just a year thing,

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<v Speaker 1>the franchise tag, or it would have been better for

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<v Speaker 1>him to try to get the multi annual contract. And

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I wonder how far apart they were, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>or are, I mean, like, what is he It's all

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<v Speaker 1>comes down to guaranteed money probably, so I'm curious to

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<v Speaker 1>see if they're probably pretty far. I mean, what did

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<v Speaker 1>the guy from the Giants, Olivier Vernon had a similar

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<v Speaker 1>career to DeMarcus prior to leaving for New York and

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<v Speaker 1>has the same agent. The franchise tag on a d

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<v Speaker 1>end when he came out in sixteen was fifteen and

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<v Speaker 1>a half and he got seventeen a year, and do

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<v Speaker 1>you know his fifty million guaranteed? So five year? I

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<v Speaker 1>think four, but don't quote me. I'm not sure. But

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<v Speaker 1>if he were allowed to hit the market, DeMarcus could

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<v Speaker 1>command nineteen million a year, you know, sixty sixty million guarantee.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, it's stupid, like people, players who affect the

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<v Speaker 1>passing game are worth the stupid amount of money on

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<v Speaker 1>the open market. So it makes a lot of sense

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<v Speaker 1>why they couldn't come to a deal because DeMarcus knows that,

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<v Speaker 1>as it does his agent, and so why would you

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<v Speaker 1>agree to anything less than that if you think there's

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<v Speaker 1>thirty one other teams that would be willing to pay it.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's kind of you know, they said that they

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<v Speaker 1>were going to work really hard to get a long

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<v Speaker 1>term deal done during these two weeks, and I never

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<v Speaker 1>bought that for half a second. Yeah, well, let me

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<v Speaker 1>ask you this question. I do think that one of

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<v Speaker 1>the challenges at this point is that you can talk

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<v Speaker 1>about the Cowboys going into free agency, and I think

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<v Speaker 1>most of us agree based on history, it doesn't suggest

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<v Speaker 1>that the Cowboys would be heavy players in free agency. However,

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<v Speaker 1>they do have a list of their own free agents

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<v Speaker 1>and they have traditionally look to bring back some of

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<v Speaker 1>those guys at least And if you look at some

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<v Speaker 1>of the lower projections that are out there, of the

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<v Speaker 1>amount of money the Cowboys have now against the cap

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<v Speaker 1>because of the seventeen million dollar hit, do you think

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<v Speaker 1>that the Cowboys need to make some moves in order

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<v Speaker 1>to free up at least money to get some of

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<v Speaker 1>the free agency. And we're gonna go through all those

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<v Speaker 1>free agents that are their own free agents and whether

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<v Speaker 1>we think the Cowboys will have them back, But do

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<v Speaker 1>you think there's moves that they have to make right

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<v Speaker 1>now in order to put themselves a position at least

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<v Speaker 1>resign their own guys. Yeah, And that's why you never

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<v Speaker 1>it's not like a scoreboard of what's the score when

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<v Speaker 1>you're talking about the cap, because number one, there's nine

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<v Speaker 1>different answers and nine different ways to look at it.

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<v Speaker 1>And then also they can do what they want to do,

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<v Speaker 1>like they may not be able to sign three or

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<v Speaker 1>four top free agents. They could sign people they want to,

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<v Speaker 1>it's just how much do they want to push into

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<v Speaker 1>next year and front row front load these contracts. But

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<v Speaker 1>so yeah, I think that they have to do a

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<v Speaker 1>couple of things to get you know. But see, they're

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<v Speaker 1>probably already projecting those things. They've already projected. David Irving's

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<v Speaker 1>what they're gonna, you know, put in for him, and

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<v Speaker 1>so therefore they're like, that's why they don't have a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of because they've already put that money in. So

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think it's really a tough situation for them,

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<v Speaker 1>right And I mean, you know, the one that gets

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<v Speaker 1>talked about a lot is you can restructure Travis Frederick's

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<v Speaker 1>deal to free up seven million in room. Like, if

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<v Speaker 1>I had to guess, they've probably already done that in

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<v Speaker 1>their head at least, you know, like they're gonna officially

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<v Speaker 1>trigger that clause in his contract and we'll write a

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<v Speaker 1>story about it. But in their mind, it's already done.

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<v Speaker 1>They've known they were going to do that for a while.

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<v Speaker 1>And then you could mess with Tyrant's money if you

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<v Speaker 1>want to, with his injury history over the last two years,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not sure that's a great idea. You could probably

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<v Speaker 1>mess with Jason Witten's money he signed. I mean, that's

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<v Speaker 1>a pretty team friendly extension he signed. You you would

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<v Speaker 1>imagine he probably won't play to the end of that contract.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe that's Bryant's money. You could very much, you could

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<v Speaker 1>very much mess with Dez Bryant's money. We'll see, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>but not in the same way probably, I you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like we've covered that pretty extensively. I mean

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<v Speaker 1>I said on this show in many other places that

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't think anything was going to wind up happening.

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<v Speaker 1>But reading tea leaves and having some conversations over the

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<v Speaker 1>last you know, a couple of weeks, it sure sounds

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<v Speaker 1>like they're gonna try to get something done. We'll see,

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<v Speaker 1>you know. So does that mean a release or a

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<v Speaker 1>pay cut or I mean, I don't know, but it's

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<v Speaker 1>something to keep an eye on. There's going to be

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<v Speaker 1>a discussion, there's going to something's gonna happen, obviously, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>Jerry said, And in the big headline over the weekend

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<v Speaker 1>for Jerry was that yeah, I want him back. Yes

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<v Speaker 1>that okay, that's fine, but at what price? And I'm

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<v Speaker 1>sure the next question to Jerry. I wasn't on the bus,

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<v Speaker 1>but I'm sure the next question was about the money.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll yeah, you want him back, right, but not at

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<v Speaker 1>this price? And he didn't really go there. Well, funny

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<v Speaker 1>the funny thing, you know, Jerry, he made it sound

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<v Speaker 1>very He was like, well, what are y'all even talking about? Like,

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<v Speaker 1>but he's like, he's like, we're gonna meet, We're gonna discuss,

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<v Speaker 1>We're gonna discuss a lot of things, blah blah blah.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know, I think it was Todd Archer made

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<v Speaker 1>the point that was like, well, if you still think

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<v Speaker 1>he's a number one receiver who's worthy of his production,

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<v Speaker 1>why are you meeting with him? Yeah, you're not. You're

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<v Speaker 1>not meeting with your guys who are earning the contracting. Yeah. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that was one of the things. I think. I came

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<v Speaker 1>in your off these other day and I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>you're not You're not meeting with Travis Frederick about how

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<v Speaker 1>much money he's getting, right, Because that was one of

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<v Speaker 1>the questions I was asked to Garrett and he was like, well,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, he's kind of noncommittal on it. And I

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<v Speaker 1>was like, if somebody ask you right now, or somebody

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<v Speaker 1>asked Garrett right now, is he gonna be back next year?

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<v Speaker 1>He would say absolutely yes. So yeah, I think I

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<v Speaker 1>think when you listen to all the things that have

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<v Speaker 1>been said, particularly by Stephen, Jason and Jerry, I think

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<v Speaker 1>it's very clear that they're going to have a discussion.

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<v Speaker 1>What that discussion will entell, what they will ask of him,

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<v Speaker 1>what he will ask back of them. We all don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if they even know, like I think,

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<v Speaker 1>but we do know there will be a discussion, and

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<v Speaker 1>at some point this organization is going to have to

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<v Speaker 1>make the decision as to whether whatever amount of money

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<v Speaker 1>is going to be on the books for him is

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<v Speaker 1>worth it or not, and if they're going to move

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<v Speaker 1>forward in that way, and Daz will have to make

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<v Speaker 1>a decision is he okay with whatever amount of money

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<v Speaker 1>that's going to be? The interesting thing is, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>it seems like we're so used to this stuff playing

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<v Speaker 1>out like over a long period of time, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, it took forever to finally get a resolution

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<v Speaker 1>to the Tony Romo saka, but I kind of feel

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<v Speaker 1>like this one is going to be faster, I don't.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I don't know if it's going to happen tomorrow,

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<v Speaker 1>but like I don't, you know, because if they're not,

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<v Speaker 1>if Dez isn't on this team moving forward, they gotta

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<v Speaker 1>have a contingency plan they I mean, you know, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't think you're just gonna look at the draft as

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<v Speaker 1>how you're gonna Replacedz. However, I will say this, their

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<v Speaker 1>contingency plan could be one that's very easily put in

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<v Speaker 1>place in April. Yeah, because I do believe let's assume

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<v Speaker 1>for a second that that Dez is not on this

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<v Speaker 1>team for whatever reason. If he's not on this team,

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<v Speaker 1>I could see a scenario where they go into the draft,

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<v Speaker 1>they get a wide receiver with their first or second pick,

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<v Speaker 1>and then they go back and sign a guy like

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<v Speaker 1>a Bryce Butler, and they feel like that's enough of

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<v Speaker 1>a bridge until that guy comes along is ready to

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<v Speaker 1>be there their number one. It's not forget the free

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<v Speaker 1>agency is six weeks before that. I mean, I think

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's the other way around. Whoever sitting there

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<v Speaker 1>in free agency after the draft, I don't know if

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<v Speaker 1>I want that guy, well, but you know how I

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<v Speaker 1>feel too, and I think that might be how they

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<v Speaker 1>feel you don't think you think Bryce's gonna get like, no,

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<v Speaker 1>but six weeks? I mean, and I get that, but

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<v Speaker 1>I could see a scenario where Bryce is still sitting

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<v Speaker 1>out there in free agency, say at that point, say

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<v Speaker 1>six weeks. It's probably four weeks, because when you get

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<v Speaker 1>to like April fifteenth, that's where they kind of stop

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<v Speaker 1>with all that. But I could say scenari where he's

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<v Speaker 1>still sitting out there, And again, the reason why he'd

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<v Speaker 1>be valuable to the gal Cowboys may be different than

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<v Speaker 1>why he might be valuable to other teams. He knows

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<v Speaker 1>his system, he's been system. When did that getting if

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<v Speaker 1>they cuts? When would he get cut? Like soon? Right?

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<v Speaker 1>That's like, hey, I was asked to happen soon? I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>because you would be counting with that money based on

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<v Speaker 1>the other decisions you make exactly. But here's anything to

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<v Speaker 1>happen makes me think that this doesn't happen quickly? Is

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<v Speaker 1>you've heard we've heard consistently from Jason, Jerry and and

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<v Speaker 1>uh and Stephen that there has not been a discussion

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<v Speaker 1>this point. If there's something happened quickly or soon, Stephen

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<v Speaker 1>as should have been a discussion. I would think at

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<v Speaker 1>this point it's a long could be you think it's

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<v Speaker 1>literally just like, okay, what would be the point of

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<v Speaker 1>how a conversation later on though, and not soon enough,

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<v Speaker 1>because the point, in my understanding, would be to count

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<v Speaker 1>with that money to figure out why or where you're

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<v Speaker 1>going to spend it on or who you're going to

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<v Speaker 1>spend it on free agency, And no, there was an

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<v Speaker 1>art class and he's not going to be available, So

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<v Speaker 1>I absolutely, I mean, if you're if you are making

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<v Speaker 1>that decision, it's so that you can use those savings

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<v Speaker 1>to upgrade your football team, and that's not going to

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<v Speaker 1>do you any good. In a month and a half.

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<v Speaker 1>Stephen said that conversation was going to happen sooner rather

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<v Speaker 1>than later a week ago, and on Saturday, Jerry said

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<v Speaker 1>it was going to happen in the immediate future. I think,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, do you think whatever's gonna happen is gonna

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<v Speaker 1>happen quickly? And whatever the resolution of this situation is,

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<v Speaker 1>I think it'll be decided by the end of the month.

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<v Speaker 1>And if he's not on the team. If he's not

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<v Speaker 1>on the team, the first thing I do is resigned

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<v Speaker 1>Bryce Butler. That's the first thing I do. I agree

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<v Speaker 1>with that because I don't want to be Now, he

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't affect what I do in the draft, but I

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<v Speaker 1>don't want to be pigeonholed into saying, oh my odd,

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<v Speaker 1>you didn't get a receiver when everyone knows this. So

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<v Speaker 1>the Ridley's gone at twelve, people jump to get Kirk whatever.

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<v Speaker 1>And then you're sitting there going, do I have to

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<v Speaker 1>take yeah, Courtland Sutton here or whatever, just because I

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<v Speaker 1>have to, which I'm not saying is a bad thing,

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<v Speaker 1>but I mean, you don't want to be forced into it.

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<v Speaker 1>So I'm getting a guy that knows, that knows the offense,

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<v Speaker 1>and you know he's got some upside still. Yeah, all right,

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<v Speaker 1>let's let's go in and and take our first break. When

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<v Speaker 1>we come back, I do want to talk about the

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<v Speaker 1>free agency that the Cowboys that are Cowboys players who

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<v Speaker 1>will be free agents, that the Cowboys will have to

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<v Speaker 1>make some decisions, and we'll go through that list. I

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<v Speaker 1>want you guys to tell me how you think they

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<v Speaker 1>play last year, what you foresee their role could be

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<v Speaker 1>with the Cowboys, and then whether you think the Cowboys

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<v Speaker 1>will or will not resign them, will do that? Women

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<v Speaker 1>the second segment of the Break Light from the SWDC

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<v Speaker 1>Raget Studios Episode Dart. Thanks for joining us. Amber, We're

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<v Speaker 1>going to get into some free agency talk and actually

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<v Speaker 1>sometime in the third segment, hopefully we'll have a whole time.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to get a few thoughts from Dave Hellman,

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<v Speaker 1>who's coming fresh fresh off the Combine, fresh frash shout

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<v Speaker 1>for the the Combine. We're all getting back used to this

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<v Speaker 1>whole radio thing. Yeah, speak for yourself. We're doing two

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<v Speaker 1>draft shows a week. I'm sorry. Yeah, you're into and Indie. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>For me, I'm trying to get back into this. Me

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<v Speaker 1>and Amber are trying to work our ways back, work

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<v Speaker 1>our way back in. So we'll in the final segment

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<v Speaker 1>we will try to get some some updates on and

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<v Speaker 1>what you saw out there at the Combine, conversations you

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<v Speaker 1>may have had, and just catch us up on where

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<v Speaker 1>we are there. But let's talk about free agency. There

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<v Speaker 1>are twelve guys I have on this list of free agents,

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<v Speaker 1>and again what I want to do is I want

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<v Speaker 1>to go through the list and I want you guys

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<v Speaker 1>to tell me, first, how do you think the player

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<v Speaker 1>played last year? Secondly, what do you think is role

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<v Speaker 1>could be if he were to come back, start or

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<v Speaker 1>back up contributor or whatever, and then whether you think

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<v Speaker 1>the Cowboys will resign him, and you expect that they're

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<v Speaker 1>going to resign him. Okay, so let's start first with

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<v Speaker 1>the restricted guys. Let's start with Brian Price, defensive tackle

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<v Speaker 1>one technique, who I thought actually was a pleasant surprise

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<v Speaker 1>last year in the time he played before he got injured.

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<v Speaker 1>I thought he did a good job. He There's not

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of people on this team like him. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>he obviously is one of the few one techniques that

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<v Speaker 1>that plays that he fits the ridiculous orphan title. And uh,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I think for that reason, if he gets

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<v Speaker 1>healthy with the knee injury which happened in early November,

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<v Speaker 1>I think that he will be in the mix to

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<v Speaker 1>compete for a job. I forgot how severe was that injury?

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<v Speaker 1>Racl That wasn't pretty sure, I've been more than that.

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<v Speaker 1>It happened in Atlanta on November twelfth, ended his season,

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<v Speaker 1>So I mean it wasn't it did? Yeah? I saw

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<v Speaker 1>it where he got I thought he got November six,

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<v Speaker 1>he's he signed. I mean he had a surgery November six.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh well, then maybe maybe it was the week before that.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe I don't know it happened. Yeah, he was out

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<v Speaker 1>for the rest of the year. I thought it happened

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<v Speaker 1>against Atlanta. Maybe maybe everything, I mean, nothing really bad

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<v Speaker 1>happened in Atlanta. Yeah, how could you remember anything other

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<v Speaker 1>than like, he's he's restricted, but he's undrafted, exclusive rights,

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<v Speaker 1>exclusive right, right, Yeah, he's exclusive rights. He's back if

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<v Speaker 1>they want him, and you feel like they want him, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I think so. I think you know, he's just he's

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<v Speaker 1>a one technique he's yeah, okay, great, let's move on

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<v Speaker 1>to a David Irving. He has a restricted Tell me

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<v Speaker 1>about how he played last year. Yes, when he was

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<v Speaker 1>played well, when he played, when he was on the field,

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<v Speaker 1>he was pretty damn good. But that's a part of it.

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<v Speaker 1>Was eight games that were really good. Absolutely. That's a

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<v Speaker 1>part of this is that I don't know that that

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<v Speaker 1>you really can trust that he's always going to be available,

0:21:28.960 --> 0:21:31.200
<v Speaker 1>and with a concussion, he still got on the field

0:21:31.240 --> 0:21:34.040
<v Speaker 1>and played. Well. That's not good. No, I know, he

0:21:34.200 --> 0:21:36.960
<v Speaker 1>was well and he was suspended for the first month, right,

0:21:37.040 --> 0:21:40.600
<v Speaker 1>and the last month. Yeah, he had lingering effects from

0:21:40.640 --> 0:21:46.000
<v Speaker 1>a concussion that he didn't report. So great, dude, trustworthy,

0:21:46.560 --> 0:21:49.680
<v Speaker 1>maybe not so much so it's a long term deal.

0:21:50.040 --> 0:21:51.800
<v Speaker 1>Is that Is this a guy that you would invest

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<v Speaker 1>a long term deal in or do you kind of

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<v Speaker 1>gender and just kind of have him for another un

0:21:56.200 --> 0:21:58.520
<v Speaker 1>see where it goes. We had a really heated conversation

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<v Speaker 1>about that on one of our drafts from Indie because

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<v Speaker 1>I just have a hard time reconciling, Like, you spend

0:22:04.800 --> 0:22:07.720
<v Speaker 1>so much time looking for pass rushers, it's so important,

0:22:07.840 --> 0:22:10.240
<v Speaker 1>you've been so bad at it. And you found a

0:22:10.280 --> 0:22:13.399
<v Speaker 1>defensive tackle who's capable of getting seven in eight games

0:22:13.920 --> 0:22:16.240
<v Speaker 1>and you don't get the sense that he's that big

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<v Speaker 1>of a priority in terms of keeping around for the

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<v Speaker 1>long But is that because you're only going to get

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<v Speaker 1>eight games year? Well? And yeah, I mean there's a

0:22:22.320 --> 0:22:24.000
<v Speaker 1>lot of reasons that you might feel that way. And

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<v Speaker 1>on top of that, I mean, if you're going to

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<v Speaker 1>try to make DeMarcus Lawrence a cowboy for life or whatever,

0:22:28.560 --> 0:22:30.520
<v Speaker 1>I mean, there's only so much money to go around.

0:22:30.680 --> 0:22:33.240
<v Speaker 1>They they're well aware that there's a very good chance

0:22:33.280 --> 0:22:35.879
<v Speaker 1>they'll have to pay Dak. You got to worry about Zeke.

0:22:36.280 --> 0:22:38.480
<v Speaker 1>You got other young talented players that they're going to

0:22:38.560 --> 0:22:40.320
<v Speaker 1>have to pay at some point. So you know, at

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<v Speaker 1>some point, it's a lot like you know, DeMarco Murray.

0:22:43.080 --> 0:22:44.600
<v Speaker 1>It's not that they didn't like him or any other

0:22:44.600 --> 0:22:46.200
<v Speaker 1>free agent they've let go. It's not that they don't

0:22:46.240 --> 0:22:48.639
<v Speaker 1>like him, it's that money only goes so far. You Know,

0:22:48.680 --> 0:22:51.560
<v Speaker 1>what I love with him is that on the line,

0:22:51.600 --> 0:22:55.080
<v Speaker 1>like let's say you don't have him back, and now

0:22:55.119 --> 0:22:58.840
<v Speaker 1>you're left with DeMarcus Lawrence obviously the main guy on

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<v Speaker 1>the line. Right Therefore, whoever else comes in, they're not

0:23:02.240 --> 0:23:06.480
<v Speaker 1>going to outshine DeMarcus Lorens. And by having David Irving,

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<v Speaker 1>to me, from what I've seen, it plays such a

0:23:10.240 --> 0:23:14.080
<v Speaker 1>great balance there because even if you're focusing on d Law,

0:23:14.520 --> 0:23:17.320
<v Speaker 1>you still have David Irving that you cannot just let

0:23:17.400 --> 0:23:19.120
<v Speaker 1>him fly by because he's going to get the job

0:23:19.160 --> 0:23:21.280
<v Speaker 1>done as well. So it's such a great balance and

0:23:21.640 --> 0:23:25.040
<v Speaker 1>great chemistry between the two that I think it's awesome

0:23:25.080 --> 0:23:28.159
<v Speaker 1>to have him there. And you can't just put it

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<v Speaker 1>all on d Law. He's a tough mismatch because of

0:23:31.760 --> 0:23:36.120
<v Speaker 1>his size and especially when you've got if you exactly right,

0:23:36.160 --> 0:23:37.920
<v Speaker 1>I mean, when you have a running back that needs

0:23:37.920 --> 0:23:40.320
<v Speaker 1>to look over here or tied end to chip over here,

0:23:40.680 --> 0:23:44.080
<v Speaker 1>he's tough for one guy in the middle to stop.

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<v Speaker 1>Now the tenders are out, I think it's just easy

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<v Speaker 1>that he will be a second round tender two point

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<v Speaker 1>nine one million. That's what they'd have to pay for him.

0:23:53.320 --> 0:23:56.080
<v Speaker 1>If somebody else signed him to a deal, that Cowboys

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<v Speaker 1>have the chance to match it. If not, they will

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<v Speaker 1>receive a second round pick that will probably a teams

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<v Speaker 1>off to not messing with it. You could also do

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<v Speaker 1>a first round tender four point one Well, I think

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<v Speaker 1>the I think they would take the second round pick

0:24:08.480 --> 0:24:11.080
<v Speaker 1>and say see you later. The first I think that's

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<v Speaker 1>say I don't think would scare teams off. The first

0:24:13.160 --> 0:24:15.600
<v Speaker 1>round tender I think would scare teams off. But I

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<v Speaker 1>think the logic that I come around to is that

0:24:18.680 --> 0:24:21.679
<v Speaker 1>the second round tender just might be low enough. And

0:24:21.760 --> 0:24:24.240
<v Speaker 1>you saw this play out with um C J Anderson

0:24:24.280 --> 0:24:26.400
<v Speaker 1>with Denver in Miami lasts. I think it was last

0:24:26.480 --> 0:24:29.760
<v Speaker 1>year um Denver put the tender on him, Miami offered

0:24:29.800 --> 0:24:32.320
<v Speaker 1>him a deal, and then Denver beat it out to

0:24:32.440 --> 0:24:35.240
<v Speaker 1>keep him. So I mean, so I think the second

0:24:35.280 --> 0:24:40.240
<v Speaker 1>round maybe makes him just appealing enough that somebody offers

0:24:40.320 --> 0:24:42.359
<v Speaker 1>him a contract, And if they did, I think the

0:24:42.400 --> 0:24:44.480
<v Speaker 1>Cowboys would be more than happy to take that second

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<v Speaker 1>round pick. Yep. And then and you're okay with it,

0:24:46.880 --> 0:24:49.560
<v Speaker 1>You're okay with lending that caliber player it second round pick.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not. I'm not going to go as far as

0:24:51.320 --> 0:24:52.840
<v Speaker 1>to say I'm okay with it. It's a tough pill

0:24:52.880 --> 0:24:55.359
<v Speaker 1>to swallow. Pass rushers are hard to find, but especially

0:24:55.400 --> 0:24:57.879
<v Speaker 1>interior pass rushers. If they're determined that they're not going

0:24:57.960 --> 0:25:00.239
<v Speaker 1>to give him a long term deal, they might as

0:25:00.240 --> 0:25:02.679
<v Speaker 1>well get something for it. I'm sure that's their logic.

0:25:02.720 --> 0:25:04.880
<v Speaker 1>But it's like one of those things where either option

0:25:05.080 --> 0:25:08.320
<v Speaker 1>is still a good option, you know. Yeah, so, yeah,

0:25:08.359 --> 0:25:13.320
<v Speaker 1>they take the second rounder preferably, preferably it's like, you know,

0:25:13.359 --> 0:25:16.560
<v Speaker 1>a Cleveland or somebody was high second. It'll be no

0:25:17.480 --> 0:25:19.639
<v Speaker 1>that I do I think so, I don't think that.

0:25:19.680 --> 0:25:22.000
<v Speaker 1>I think it's the top of the second. You wouldn't

0:25:22.000 --> 0:25:25.240
<v Speaker 1>give your second for David Irving unless it's like you

0:25:25.320 --> 0:25:28.800
<v Speaker 1>might New England or Philly or something way down down there.

0:25:29.119 --> 0:25:31.480
<v Speaker 1>You might, I don't. I mean, it's a defensive tackle

0:25:31.520 --> 0:25:34.120
<v Speaker 1>that's capable of getting seven sacks. Those guys don't grow

0:25:34.160 --> 0:25:37.320
<v Speaker 1>on trees, which is precisely the reason why, in my opinion,

0:25:37.880 --> 0:25:40.840
<v Speaker 1>the second round tender may not be worth it. Like

0:25:41.240 --> 0:25:42.880
<v Speaker 1>if if you're going to get back, if you're okay

0:25:42.880 --> 0:25:44.520
<v Speaker 1>with that, you're gonna get back a second round pick.

0:25:45.080 --> 0:25:47.040
<v Speaker 1>Name the last time you've had a second round pick

0:25:47.119 --> 0:25:50.000
<v Speaker 1>that's an interior defensive line I could generate the pass rush.

0:25:50.240 --> 0:25:52.440
<v Speaker 1>Certainly they you're not going to replace that production with

0:25:52.480 --> 0:25:54.480
<v Speaker 1>a second round pick, are you. They certainly don't have

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<v Speaker 1>the eight games or the four at the end of

0:25:58.320 --> 0:26:01.720
<v Speaker 1>replace can you replace the seven saxes at a interior

0:26:01.720 --> 0:26:04.080
<v Speaker 1>defensive line position. Let's run down the list of their

0:26:04.200 --> 0:26:07.440
<v Speaker 1>last ten second round picks for as it was the

0:26:07.520 --> 0:26:13.760
<v Speaker 1>last time the Cowboys had a good pass rush year exactly,

0:26:13.880 --> 0:26:16.280
<v Speaker 1>and that included David Irving in the time that he

0:26:16.400 --> 0:26:18.960
<v Speaker 1>was on the field, which I agree, if you're willing

0:26:18.960 --> 0:26:21.040
<v Speaker 1>to really play the long games, what I would love

0:26:21.200 --> 0:26:23.800
<v Speaker 1>is if they put the tender on him and nobody's interested,

0:26:24.040 --> 0:26:26.439
<v Speaker 1>then you're only so you're paying him two point nine million.

0:26:26.800 --> 0:26:29.600
<v Speaker 1>Then when he hits unrestricted free agency, you can let

0:26:29.640 --> 0:26:32.560
<v Speaker 1>him go and you probably get, if not a third

0:26:32.560 --> 0:26:35.080
<v Speaker 1>then at least a fourth round compensatory pick for him

0:26:35.200 --> 0:26:39.160
<v Speaker 1>in twenty twenty. I mean, that's the long game. But

0:26:39.840 --> 0:26:41.920
<v Speaker 1>I think they're better next year if he's on this team,

0:26:42.520 --> 0:26:45.119
<v Speaker 1>and I just look at I think there's I would

0:26:45.200 --> 0:26:47.600
<v Speaker 1>guess if you're if I would think like you were

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<v Speaker 1>talking about a free eight with the franchise tag, I

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<v Speaker 1>would think a team would have to start at whatever

0:26:53.040 --> 0:26:55.000
<v Speaker 1>that amount is for the second round tender was two

0:26:55.000 --> 0:26:57.480
<v Speaker 1>point whatever a million. I think there will be teams

0:26:57.480 --> 0:26:59.400
<v Speaker 1>that will be willing to do him, do a deal

0:26:59.440 --> 0:27:01.439
<v Speaker 1>with him that's a three or four year deal that

0:27:01.560 --> 0:27:04.160
<v Speaker 1>averages three four million a year. I think there will

0:27:04.160 --> 0:27:06.320
<v Speaker 1>be too, and especially if they backloaded to where they're

0:27:06.320 --> 0:27:08.440
<v Speaker 1>not really tied to the final year, final two years,

0:27:08.440 --> 0:27:10.320
<v Speaker 1>whatever it is. I think there'll be teams out there

0:27:10.359 --> 0:27:12.159
<v Speaker 1>that are willing to do that. And I think so.

0:27:12.200 --> 0:27:14.399
<v Speaker 1>I think if you do a second round tender on him,

0:27:14.440 --> 0:27:16.320
<v Speaker 1>I could very easily see a scenario where he no

0:27:16.320 --> 0:27:18.040
<v Speaker 1>longer is with this team, and I think that's a

0:27:18.080 --> 0:27:20.399
<v Speaker 1>big blow to the Cowboys. I agree, I will. I

0:27:20.400 --> 0:27:23.200
<v Speaker 1>mean the flip side of that coin, if you trust

0:27:23.240 --> 0:27:27.159
<v Speaker 1>them to draft, well, this is a deep defensive tackle class.

0:27:27.160 --> 0:27:29.399
<v Speaker 1>I mean, they could get a good defensive tackle in

0:27:29.440 --> 0:27:31.360
<v Speaker 1>the second round with the pick they get for him,

0:27:31.400 --> 0:27:33.800
<v Speaker 1>But I'd rather have him on the team than not.

0:27:34.080 --> 0:27:35.879
<v Speaker 1>The big thing about that, though, is you got a

0:27:35.920 --> 0:27:37.680
<v Speaker 1>lot of positions where you could use a second round

0:27:37.680 --> 0:27:40.480
<v Speaker 1>ship on those positions. So it just adds to that list.

0:27:41.920 --> 0:27:43.720
<v Speaker 1>But I'm just saying, it just adds to that list

0:27:43.760 --> 0:27:45.720
<v Speaker 1>of guys you now have to fill in the draft,

0:27:46.440 --> 0:27:49.320
<v Speaker 1>you know, And I think that list is sizeable. I think,

0:27:49.560 --> 0:27:51.760
<v Speaker 1>all right, let's move on. Let's talk about Keith Smith,

0:27:51.960 --> 0:27:53.800
<v Speaker 1>fullback for the Cowboys. How do you play last year?

0:27:53.840 --> 0:27:56.320
<v Speaker 1>What were your thoughts on him? I love that guy,

0:27:57.000 --> 0:28:00.879
<v Speaker 1>and and you know, his roles and fullbacks probably overstated

0:28:00.880 --> 0:28:02.359
<v Speaker 1>a little bit. He was on the field as a

0:28:02.359 --> 0:28:04.640
<v Speaker 1>fullback twelve percent of the time. It's not I mean,

0:28:04.800 --> 0:28:06.680
<v Speaker 1>he's good when he's out there, but it's just not

0:28:06.800 --> 0:28:10.880
<v Speaker 1>like it's this huge component. But he's a special teams guy.

0:28:11.000 --> 0:28:13.159
<v Speaker 1>He's great on special teams. He does his job in

0:28:13.200 --> 0:28:17.399
<v Speaker 1>the offense. He's got probably the most underrated hands on

0:28:17.440 --> 0:28:19.480
<v Speaker 1>the team. Maybe, I mean, he only gets like two

0:28:19.520 --> 0:28:22.320
<v Speaker 1>opportunities per year, but I'm just always impressed at how

0:28:22.320 --> 0:28:26.240
<v Speaker 1>well he catches for a converted linebacker. Um. I think

0:28:26.240 --> 0:28:27.960
<v Speaker 1>he's a good locker room guy. He's got a lot

0:28:27.960 --> 0:28:30.800
<v Speaker 1>of attitude, he's got some dog to him. He's a queue.

0:28:31.000 --> 0:28:37.280
<v Speaker 1>So um, yeah, And there was a don't do it, Nick,

0:28:37.880 --> 0:28:40.680
<v Speaker 1>don't do it. And i've seen you paunched a training camp.

0:28:40.720 --> 0:28:43.480
<v Speaker 1>There was there was a report last week and he's

0:28:43.520 --> 0:28:46.200
<v Speaker 1>he's restricted. He was undrafted. They're not going to put

0:28:46.240 --> 0:28:49.560
<v Speaker 1>a tender on an undrafted guy. It doesn't make sense. Um,

0:28:50.560 --> 0:28:52.520
<v Speaker 1>but there's a report that they want him back and

0:28:52.600 --> 0:28:54.360
<v Speaker 1>they're going to try to get a deal done with him.

0:28:54.600 --> 0:28:57.720
<v Speaker 1>Your deal should not be hard. I mean a lot

0:28:57.760 --> 0:29:00.840
<v Speaker 1>like before you you know, you forget Jeff Heath wasn't

0:29:00.880 --> 0:29:02.959
<v Speaker 1>a starter when he signed that deal. It was very similar.

0:29:02.960 --> 0:29:05.840
<v Speaker 1>It's not like there's this huge demand for his services.

0:29:05.920 --> 0:29:10.240
<v Speaker 1>So that happens a lot. They'll buy basically, they're buying

0:29:10.480 --> 0:29:14.680
<v Speaker 1>next year's free agent year for them. They'll basically buy it.

0:29:14.720 --> 0:29:16.960
<v Speaker 1>So it's a two year. I would imagine he'll get

0:29:16.960 --> 0:29:19.280
<v Speaker 1>like a two or three year deal. And because of

0:29:19.320 --> 0:29:21.840
<v Speaker 1>the tender, even though the lowest tenders one point nine

0:29:21.880 --> 0:29:23.880
<v Speaker 1>and you're not gonna do that for a fullback. So

0:29:23.920 --> 0:29:25.720
<v Speaker 1>I think he'll get like, he'll probably get like a

0:29:25.720 --> 0:29:29.320
<v Speaker 1>two year deal worth about you know, two million, maybe

0:29:29.600 --> 0:29:32.360
<v Speaker 1>one eight something like that. I'm not Yeah, a little

0:29:32.360 --> 0:29:34.800
<v Speaker 1>bit of money in his pocket and put him very

0:29:34.840 --> 0:29:38.440
<v Speaker 1>team friendly deal he's I mean yeah, I would be

0:29:38.480 --> 0:29:40.360
<v Speaker 1>surprised if they don't try to keep him around at

0:29:40.360 --> 0:29:42.760
<v Speaker 1>a and the money's not big enough that it's even

0:29:42.760 --> 0:29:44.480
<v Speaker 1>really a big deal. I would actually love to see

0:29:44.480 --> 0:29:46.640
<v Speaker 1>them use him a little bit more, especially your yardage.

0:29:46.680 --> 0:29:49.000
<v Speaker 1>I think there's an opportunity for him not only carrying

0:29:49.040 --> 0:29:50.960
<v Speaker 1>the ball, but leaking out of the backfield and catching

0:29:51.000 --> 0:29:53.440
<v Speaker 1>the ball some too. So I hope they resigned him.

0:29:53.440 --> 0:29:54.640
<v Speaker 1>I hope they use him a little bit more in

0:29:54.640 --> 0:29:56.320
<v Speaker 1>the offense. I think they need a little more diversity

0:29:56.360 --> 0:29:57.880
<v Speaker 1>and he could provide that. Do we need to speed

0:29:57.880 --> 0:30:00.760
<v Speaker 1>this up? Yeah, we need to faster. So sorry, free guys,

0:30:01.000 --> 0:30:04.120
<v Speaker 1>sorry undrafted free agents. Let's move on to Byron Bell.

0:30:05.080 --> 0:30:08.720
<v Speaker 1>You take it left tackle. I mean, I gotta believe

0:30:08.760 --> 0:30:12.600
<v Speaker 1>there's a veteran tackle that you could get for the

0:30:12.680 --> 0:30:15.040
<v Speaker 1>same or maybe a little bit more who might be better.

0:30:15.400 --> 0:30:19.959
<v Speaker 1>But if that's whatever, I'd eb You don't feel bad

0:30:19.960 --> 0:30:21.800
<v Speaker 1>about them bringing him back. You don't feel great about

0:30:21.800 --> 0:30:23.440
<v Speaker 1>the letting him go. I mean you'll feel bad about

0:30:23.440 --> 0:30:25.280
<v Speaker 1>them letting him go. I feel bad if their plan

0:30:25.480 --> 0:30:28.040
<v Speaker 1>is to just let him be the swing tackle without

0:30:28.080 --> 0:30:33.160
<v Speaker 1>any competition. You know, but either fine about same thing.

0:30:33.280 --> 0:30:35.800
<v Speaker 1>I just I mean, he's he's under contract. He I know,

0:30:35.800 --> 0:30:39.280
<v Speaker 1>that's that's his competition, right, Draft a guy or spend

0:30:39.280 --> 0:30:41.800
<v Speaker 1>a little bit more money to get a better caliber player.

0:30:42.160 --> 0:30:44.360
<v Speaker 1>That's pretty much how I feel. All right, let's move

0:30:44.360 --> 0:30:46.760
<v Speaker 1>on to Jonathan Cooper. How do you play last year?

0:30:46.800 --> 0:30:48.880
<v Speaker 1>Give me as a Scotter report. I played pretty well

0:30:48.920 --> 0:30:51.440
<v Speaker 1>when he when he uh, when he finally got in

0:30:51.480 --> 0:30:54.560
<v Speaker 1>there and and got you know, was was the solidified starter.

0:30:54.640 --> 0:30:57.120
<v Speaker 1>I thought he did a pretty good job. I had

0:30:57.120 --> 0:30:59.600
<v Speaker 1>a tough injury there at the last game of the season,

0:31:00.480 --> 0:31:03.000
<v Speaker 1>and I think that's gonna hurt any kind of leverage

0:31:03.000 --> 0:31:05.479
<v Speaker 1>he might have. So I think therefore, I think he

0:31:05.480 --> 0:31:08.120
<v Speaker 1>comes back. I think the Cowboys resign him and bring

0:31:08.200 --> 0:31:12.040
<v Speaker 1>him back. Probably a pretty decent deal for the Cowboys

0:31:12.400 --> 0:31:15.400
<v Speaker 1>and maybe the potential to have a guy that that starts.

0:31:15.400 --> 0:31:17.400
<v Speaker 1>But I don't think he is the set starter again.

0:31:17.600 --> 0:31:19.480
<v Speaker 1>I think he'd have to earn him once again. So

0:31:19.480 --> 0:31:21.040
<v Speaker 1>who do you think's gonna be the set starter? I

0:31:21.080 --> 0:31:24.600
<v Speaker 1>don't know if he's on the team. Okay, veteran draft

0:31:26.080 --> 0:31:28.040
<v Speaker 1>what I would imagine if I had to guess, you

0:31:28.120 --> 0:31:34.080
<v Speaker 1>resign him, nice deal, draft the guy middle rounds. Hope

0:31:34.120 --> 0:31:35.720
<v Speaker 1>that he can play a little center as well. You

0:31:35.720 --> 0:31:38.520
<v Speaker 1>get some versatility there or maybe tackle as well. Guardia,

0:31:38.600 --> 0:31:40.560
<v Speaker 1>I expecting him to come. If he's a middle round guy,

0:31:40.600 --> 0:31:42.760
<v Speaker 1>he's not coming in next year and starting right over

0:31:42.800 --> 0:31:44.320
<v Speaker 1>a guy that played pretty well as a starter. This

0:31:44.680 --> 0:31:47.680
<v Speaker 1>you wouldn't think. But you never know. You never know. Okay,

0:31:47.680 --> 0:31:50.280
<v Speaker 1>you let them compete. I would let them compet a

0:31:50.280 --> 0:31:52.440
<v Speaker 1>training camp, you know, just see what the other guy

0:31:52.520 --> 0:31:55.560
<v Speaker 1>has got. If he's better, you earned your spot. Yeah,

0:31:55.640 --> 0:31:58.080
<v Speaker 1>there we go. All right, let's go to Alfred Morse.

0:32:00.080 --> 0:32:03.200
<v Speaker 1>Take that love love him, I mean everyone loves Alfred

0:32:03.360 --> 0:32:07.400
<v Speaker 1>and but I just depends how much money it is.

0:32:08.040 --> 0:32:10.360
<v Speaker 1>I would say that cow. We still needed running back.

0:32:10.400 --> 0:32:12.440
<v Speaker 1>I don't know if they would just choose the option

0:32:12.480 --> 0:32:16.880
<v Speaker 1>to draft one later later in the draft, but I

0:32:16.920 --> 0:32:19.920
<v Speaker 1>wouldn't mind him having back, having him back. Although we

0:32:20.040 --> 0:32:22.880
<v Speaker 1>started seeing, you know, them not really using him that much,

0:32:22.920 --> 0:32:25.840
<v Speaker 1>so maybe that's a sign that they're done with him.

0:32:26.160 --> 0:32:28.600
<v Speaker 1>I think it's pretty clear, and I'll let you guys

0:32:28.600 --> 0:32:31.000
<v Speaker 1>talk about I think it's pretty clear that they prefer

0:32:31.080 --> 0:32:33.240
<v Speaker 1>to see Rod Smith as their second running back. You

0:32:33.280 --> 0:32:36.880
<v Speaker 1>guys agree with that, Yeah, yeah, yeah, they they never

0:32:37.520 --> 0:32:42.960
<v Speaker 1>are interested in using him after after they drafted Zeke Elliott.

0:32:43.000 --> 0:32:45.080
<v Speaker 1>I mean he was. That's we always talk about it.

0:32:45.080 --> 0:32:47.680
<v Speaker 1>You do things in the free agency to prepare you

0:32:47.720 --> 0:32:49.840
<v Speaker 1>for if you don't address the problem in the draft.

0:32:49.880 --> 0:32:52.520
<v Speaker 1>But they did, and he so kind of became redundant.

0:32:52.600 --> 0:32:55.280
<v Speaker 1>I love him to death as a person. I don't

0:32:55.280 --> 0:32:57.400
<v Speaker 1>think he'll be back here, and honestly, I think there's

0:32:57.400 --> 0:32:59.640
<v Speaker 1>probably backfields in the NFL where he could still go

0:32:59.760 --> 0:33:02.600
<v Speaker 1>and a larger role. Op. Yeah, I don't know that

0:33:02.680 --> 0:33:05.560
<v Speaker 1>he's dying to resign here either. So in that role

0:33:05.600 --> 0:33:07.560
<v Speaker 1>that you said about drafting a running back, I mean

0:33:07.560 --> 0:33:09.800
<v Speaker 1>that's a perfect position where you can draft a running

0:33:09.840 --> 0:33:12.880
<v Speaker 1>back in the sixth round and say, be the third

0:33:12.920 --> 0:33:15.640
<v Speaker 1>back behind Rod Smith, maybe the second. You never know.

0:33:15.720 --> 0:33:20.800
<v Speaker 1>I mean we've seen absolute teams and absolutely loaded running

0:33:20.840 --> 0:33:23.160
<v Speaker 1>back class. I would and they have seven picks on

0:33:23.240 --> 0:33:25.680
<v Speaker 1>Day three. I'd be shocked if a running back isn't

0:33:25.760 --> 0:33:28.760
<v Speaker 1>one of the seven. Can I have a pick there? Sure?

0:33:29.400 --> 0:33:34.440
<v Speaker 1>I'll take Hines, Okay, Nakim Hines or nine North Carolina

0:33:34.480 --> 0:33:36.760
<v Speaker 1>Klas State fastest running back at the combine. Right, what

0:33:36.880 --> 0:33:39.320
<v Speaker 1>was the time? I think it's four three three something

0:33:39.320 --> 0:33:43.560
<v Speaker 1>like that. You'd beat it at the forty I beat that. No,

0:33:43.680 --> 0:33:46.880
<v Speaker 1>you can't. All right, let's move on Kyle Wilbur. Kyle

0:33:46.880 --> 0:33:52.560
<v Speaker 1>Wilber linebacker. I always like, how many special teams aces

0:33:52.600 --> 0:33:55.840
<v Speaker 1>do you need? No? I'm serious? And is that the

0:33:55.840 --> 0:33:59.720
<v Speaker 1>only role that he feels here? Though? Eight a second ace? No?

0:34:00.320 --> 0:34:01.960
<v Speaker 1>How many times do I have to do this with you?

0:34:02.080 --> 0:34:05.160
<v Speaker 1>Kyle Wilbur is a great special teams player. He's a

0:34:05.240 --> 0:34:09.359
<v Speaker 1>guaranteed special teams play per season he does I mean

0:34:09.360 --> 0:34:11.759
<v Speaker 1>he does play. Yeah, perst season is not an ace.

0:34:12.960 --> 0:34:16.440
<v Speaker 1>You're talking special teams like the leading special teams tackler

0:34:16.440 --> 0:34:18.480
<v Speaker 1>in the league maybe has ten in a year. I

0:34:18.520 --> 0:34:21.759
<v Speaker 1>mean it from last year. I can't remember that. Uh

0:34:21.960 --> 0:34:26.799
<v Speaker 1>he forced the fumble again? Oh, twenty seven teens. He's

0:34:26.800 --> 0:34:29.839
<v Speaker 1>a good special teams player and a versatile guy who

0:34:29.920 --> 0:34:32.200
<v Speaker 1>can do everything for you. That's the part that probably

0:34:32.200 --> 0:34:35.080
<v Speaker 1>could get him back here. But see versatility, they love that.

0:34:35.120 --> 0:34:37.960
<v Speaker 1>Don't they ever play defense? Go look at this. His

0:34:38.160 --> 0:34:42.040
<v Speaker 1>snaps on defense decreased every year after he signed his extension,

0:34:42.560 --> 0:34:45.000
<v Speaker 1>not only when they got more talent in here, but

0:34:45.120 --> 0:34:47.680
<v Speaker 1>when they realize, like, I'm not sure this guy is

0:34:47.680 --> 0:34:49.719
<v Speaker 1>really what we want in terms of being on the

0:34:49.760 --> 0:34:52.319
<v Speaker 1>field on defense. I mean, the vast majority of his

0:34:52.400 --> 0:34:55.640
<v Speaker 1>work this past season came on special teams. But but

0:34:55.800 --> 0:34:58.080
<v Speaker 1>let's let's not forget and then this is a big part.

0:34:58.200 --> 0:34:59.880
<v Speaker 1>A lot of times on special teams, that's the stuff

0:34:59.880 --> 0:35:01.799
<v Speaker 1>you don't see. You know, you get a guy here,

0:35:01.840 --> 0:35:04.080
<v Speaker 1>he knows, Oh, this guy's coming in here, blocked there,

0:35:04.120 --> 0:35:05.960
<v Speaker 1>because all it takes is a guy, y'all. You bring

0:35:06.040 --> 0:35:07.839
<v Speaker 1>some guy in. They did it a few years ago.

0:35:07.880 --> 0:35:10.120
<v Speaker 1>They brought a guy in from the from the Seahawks,

0:35:10.440 --> 0:35:12.040
<v Speaker 1>and he came in, I got a punt blocked and

0:35:12.080 --> 0:35:14.600
<v Speaker 1>they lost the game, you know, because he didn't understand

0:35:14.880 --> 0:35:17.200
<v Speaker 1>that stuff. So sometimes on special teams and stuff we

0:35:17.200 --> 0:35:20.759
<v Speaker 1>don't see. But James Hanna has a special team, a

0:35:20.760 --> 0:35:22.879
<v Speaker 1>good special teams player. Jeff Heath is a good special

0:35:22.920 --> 0:35:25.280
<v Speaker 1>teams player. Keith Smith is a good special teams player.

0:35:26.800 --> 0:35:28.959
<v Speaker 1>Von Frasier's great on like, how many of these guys

0:35:29.239 --> 0:35:30.759
<v Speaker 1>R Woods is going to be pretty think so too

0:35:30.760 --> 0:35:32.880
<v Speaker 1>many these guys can you afford to give money to,

0:35:32.960 --> 0:35:35.839
<v Speaker 1>especially when you're talking about an unrestricted free agent sixth year.

0:35:36.239 --> 0:35:39.440
<v Speaker 1>I also think it's worth pointing out that his special

0:35:39.480 --> 0:35:43.520
<v Speaker 1>team's coach who loves him is now in Oakland. Um, So,

0:35:43.719 --> 0:35:47.320
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I wouldn't be surprised, I guess, but I

0:35:47.320 --> 0:35:50.200
<v Speaker 1>I don't think he's a big big priority for them

0:35:50.280 --> 0:35:54.439
<v Speaker 1>to bring back. Okay, um, lp Latticer back special team,

0:35:54.440 --> 0:35:58.000
<v Speaker 1>bring him back. But any thing about what you said

0:35:58.000 --> 0:36:00.759
<v Speaker 1>about Oakland, I guarantee that Besot is over there looking

0:36:00.800 --> 0:36:05.960
<v Speaker 1>at that. But I think lp Um, he's still got

0:36:05.960 --> 0:36:08.200
<v Speaker 1>a few more years left. But I know that he's

0:36:08.239 --> 0:36:11.120
<v Speaker 1>already thinking of things after football, and some of those

0:36:11.160 --> 0:36:15.160
<v Speaker 1>things involved involved this area. I just would be shocked

0:36:15.160 --> 0:36:18.120
<v Speaker 1>if he's not back, and I think the Cowboys would pay.

0:36:18.200 --> 0:36:21.040
<v Speaker 1>He'll be walking around eating his cookie, eating his cookie.

0:36:21.080 --> 0:36:24.520
<v Speaker 1>He does. He does like to snack, all right, Bryce Butler.

0:36:26.360 --> 0:36:28.640
<v Speaker 1>Isn't that when the contingent right, you just kind of

0:36:28.640 --> 0:36:31.360
<v Speaker 1>hold that that's your glass break in case of emergency.

0:36:31.520 --> 0:36:34.120
<v Speaker 1>Ask me, yeah, ask me in two weeks. I mean,

0:36:34.280 --> 0:36:36.120
<v Speaker 1>when we know what's going to happen with dads, Ask

0:36:36.200 --> 0:36:39.480
<v Speaker 1>me about Bryce and their whole thing is if that's

0:36:39.520 --> 0:36:42.560
<v Speaker 1>their contingency plan, I'd better figure it out, because I mean,

0:36:43.400 --> 0:36:45.600
<v Speaker 1>I gotta imagine that he's going to get at least

0:36:45.640 --> 0:36:48.040
<v Speaker 1>an offer somewhere. You know, I don't know if I

0:36:48.040 --> 0:36:49.719
<v Speaker 1>don't think he'll be in that first wave though, And

0:36:49.800 --> 0:36:52.640
<v Speaker 1>no thing about this thing about free agency is you know,

0:36:52.680 --> 0:36:54.520
<v Speaker 1>you kind of have your first wave of free agents,

0:36:54.600 --> 0:36:56.359
<v Speaker 1>and those are gonna be the guys at day one,

0:36:56.440 --> 0:36:58.560
<v Speaker 1>day two, day three. Those will be those guys, and

0:36:58.600 --> 0:37:00.879
<v Speaker 1>then the rest of them start kicking in. They could

0:37:00.880 --> 0:37:04.320
<v Speaker 1>be you know, three weeks after that, four weeks after that, whatever.

0:37:04.360 --> 0:37:06.840
<v Speaker 1>So if the timetable on Dez is what you guys

0:37:06.920 --> 0:37:09.440
<v Speaker 1>think it will be, then there's plenty of time to

0:37:09.480 --> 0:37:12.200
<v Speaker 1>wait on Bryce, and he should still. I don't think

0:37:12.200 --> 0:37:13.680
<v Speaker 1>he's gonna be in that first way, So I think

0:37:13.680 --> 0:37:15.680
<v Speaker 1>he'll still be available for you to do a deal

0:37:15.719 --> 0:37:17.200
<v Speaker 1>with him if that time comes. And he's made it

0:37:17.239 --> 0:37:19.640
<v Speaker 1>clear the only way he wants to come back is

0:37:19.680 --> 0:37:21.640
<v Speaker 1>if Dez were not a part of me. That's what

0:37:21.680 --> 0:37:23.440
<v Speaker 1>he said. Those are the words that he put out there.

0:37:23.480 --> 0:37:25.360
<v Speaker 1>He signed his deal here a lot. He was the

0:37:25.400 --> 0:37:28.360
<v Speaker 1>first signing they made. He signed within like two hours

0:37:28.360 --> 0:37:32.040
<v Speaker 1>of the market opening, right, So I don't know, he

0:37:32.160 --> 0:37:34.920
<v Speaker 1>never thought what was gonna happen. He never thought Terence

0:37:34.960 --> 0:37:36.640
<v Speaker 1>was gonna be back and didn't think they would draft

0:37:36.680 --> 0:37:41.959
<v Speaker 1>two receivers. Yep. I I leaned toward thinking no, but yeah,

0:37:42.080 --> 0:37:44.759
<v Speaker 1>I wouldn't shot nothing that wouldn't shock me either, in

0:37:44.960 --> 0:37:46.600
<v Speaker 1>the same way, I don't would be a team friend.

0:37:46.719 --> 0:37:48.839
<v Speaker 1>I don't. I don't know. But if he if Dez

0:37:48.920 --> 0:37:50.680
<v Speaker 1>isn't back, I think I would try to sign him.

0:37:50.960 --> 0:37:53.000
<v Speaker 1>All right, I think he wants to come back. Let's

0:37:53.040 --> 0:37:55.239
<v Speaker 1>take our final break and we come back. I want

0:37:55.239 --> 0:37:57.319
<v Speaker 1>to hit Anthony Hitchins to talk a little bit about him,

0:37:57.320 --> 0:37:59.520
<v Speaker 1>because he's the one guy out here that I think

0:38:00.080 --> 0:38:01.919
<v Speaker 1>is going to have probably the most generate, the most

0:38:01.920 --> 0:38:04.000
<v Speaker 1>interest on the free agent market. And I want to

0:38:04.000 --> 0:38:05.560
<v Speaker 1>know if you think the Cowboys even have a shot

0:38:05.560 --> 0:38:07.440
<v Speaker 1>of trying to resign a guy like Anthony Agents. We'll

0:38:07.440 --> 0:38:08.759
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<v Speaker 1>the Break, Welcome Back. It is the final segment of

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<v Speaker 1>The Break live from the s WBC Mortgage studios. At

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<v Speaker 1>the start, I'm enjoying this show. I'm having fun. Goods

0:40:15.640 --> 0:40:18.440
<v Speaker 1>you guys enjoying it? Yes, I love talking about football,

0:40:19.480 --> 0:40:21.960
<v Speaker 1>you know what. No, I was just thinking kind of like,

0:40:21.960 --> 0:40:24.440
<v Speaker 1>I don't no, I'm not feeling no. I was just thinking.

0:40:24.480 --> 0:40:27.359
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, I was thinking about Noah Brown and how

0:40:27.400 --> 0:40:31.040
<v Speaker 1>he played last year and thinking the similarity that he

0:40:31.120 --> 0:40:34.200
<v Speaker 1>has with Dez. How sometimes you got them both confused.

0:40:34.480 --> 0:40:36.799
<v Speaker 1>I know I did, like all the time. Yeah, that's

0:40:36.800 --> 0:40:39.640
<v Speaker 1>an interesting thought. I don't know, do you do you

0:40:39.719 --> 0:40:42.399
<v Speaker 1>think there's any chance whatsoever that Noah Brown is ready

0:40:42.400 --> 0:40:44.560
<v Speaker 1>to step in and be a much bigger contributor year.

0:40:44.600 --> 0:40:46.640
<v Speaker 1>Here's the thing, and I get this from fans all

0:40:46.640 --> 0:40:49.360
<v Speaker 1>the time when we talk about safety. You know, Jerry

0:40:49.520 --> 0:40:52.040
<v Speaker 1>Jerry confirmed for us basically what we already knew, which

0:40:52.080 --> 0:40:54.080
<v Speaker 1>is that they're going to give Byron a look at cornerback,

0:40:54.719 --> 0:40:56.799
<v Speaker 1>and so you talk about, you know, that's a need

0:40:56.840 --> 0:40:58.600
<v Speaker 1>you gotta fill this. You get the same thing with

0:40:58.640 --> 0:41:01.200
<v Speaker 1>wide receiver. And I get comments from people all the

0:41:01.200 --> 0:41:04.040
<v Speaker 1>time it's like, well, you don't believe in Xavier Woods

0:41:04.040 --> 0:41:05.680
<v Speaker 1>and Cavan Frasier, and you can say the same thing

0:41:05.680 --> 0:41:08.400
<v Speaker 1>about Noah Browns, like why all this talk about replacing

0:41:08.480 --> 0:41:10.520
<v Speaker 1>Dez when you got Noah Brown on the roster, why

0:41:10.520 --> 0:41:13.319
<v Speaker 1>don't you give Xavier Woods a shot. And I don't

0:41:13.360 --> 0:41:15.000
<v Speaker 1>mean that as a shot at any of those guys.

0:41:15.080 --> 0:41:17.480
<v Speaker 1>I think they're all great players that could develop into

0:41:17.800 --> 0:41:20.919
<v Speaker 1>you know, starting caliber players. But you can't. You can't

0:41:20.920 --> 0:41:23.600
<v Speaker 1>approach a season on that mindset. You can't bank on

0:41:23.680 --> 0:41:27.560
<v Speaker 1>a seventh round pick becoming a starter. You gotta spend resources.

0:41:27.560 --> 0:41:30.000
<v Speaker 1>I mean, that's just if you if you go into

0:41:30.040 --> 0:41:32.520
<v Speaker 1>a season you know with you're like, well, if the

0:41:32.520 --> 0:41:35.000
<v Speaker 1>best case scenario plays out, will be pretty good, you're

0:41:35.000 --> 0:41:37.319
<v Speaker 1>probably gonna get Well, he's not even a guy that

0:41:37.360 --> 0:41:39.560
<v Speaker 1>when you talk about wide receivers for the Cowboys that

0:41:39.880 --> 0:41:42.799
<v Speaker 1>that name, that name doesn't really cross my mind right

0:41:42.840 --> 0:41:45.959
<v Speaker 1>talking about wide receivers. But then he did come into

0:41:46.000 --> 0:41:49.799
<v Speaker 1>my mind break I might wait, he absolutely and could

0:41:49.840 --> 0:41:52.320
<v Speaker 1>develop into a really good player. I think he's awesome.

0:41:52.360 --> 0:41:54.239
<v Speaker 1>He had a great training camp. The fact the matter is,

0:41:54.239 --> 0:41:57.239
<v Speaker 1>if the Cowboys take a wide receiver earlier parts of

0:41:57.280 --> 0:42:00.520
<v Speaker 1>the draft, as many expect they would, and let's say,

0:42:00.560 --> 0:42:02.400
<v Speaker 1>for example, Des is still on this team, there's a

0:42:02.400 --> 0:42:05.560
<v Speaker 1>scenario where maybe Noah isn't on this team, Like oh no, no, no,

0:42:05.800 --> 0:42:08.120
<v Speaker 1>you don't think no, because you got that eighty three

0:42:08.160 --> 0:42:10.120
<v Speaker 1>over there, that's just got it one more year before

0:42:10.120 --> 0:42:12.239
<v Speaker 1>you can cut tides there, So how many would you

0:42:12.239 --> 0:42:14.880
<v Speaker 1>carry on this team? I've got into that kind of situation.

0:42:15.040 --> 0:42:18.399
<v Speaker 1>I just think you can't make a decision. I mean,

0:42:18.480 --> 0:42:21.400
<v Speaker 1>if Noah Brown is good and then you draft someone,

0:42:21.480 --> 0:42:24.080
<v Speaker 1>I just think that they have the bad contract. Here

0:42:24.239 --> 0:42:26.640
<v Speaker 1>was the one they did with Terrence. Everybody all saw that,

0:42:26.800 --> 0:42:28.839
<v Speaker 1>and that that's what they got to have to figure out.

0:42:28.840 --> 0:42:30.239
<v Speaker 1>They have to got one more year to kind of

0:42:30.239 --> 0:42:33.200
<v Speaker 1>go through that where I think you can realistically cut him.

0:42:33.239 --> 0:42:36.120
<v Speaker 1>But let's say that that he's gone. Let's say what

0:42:36.200 --> 0:42:39.960
<v Speaker 1>des is gone, and maybe we'll see more out of Terrence.

0:42:40.840 --> 0:42:45.960
<v Speaker 1>But I don't know. I'm not I'm not expecting that. Also. Sorry,

0:42:46.040 --> 0:42:48.800
<v Speaker 1>I'm just saying you got to remember, like these you

0:42:48.920 --> 0:42:51.160
<v Speaker 1>draft someone, you gotta remember a couple of years ahead.

0:42:51.200 --> 0:42:53.400
<v Speaker 1>And I don't know if if if Terrence Williams has

0:42:53.400 --> 0:42:56.319
<v Speaker 1>another season like he had last year, I don't think

0:42:56.320 --> 0:42:58.960
<v Speaker 1>he would be back. If they keep Dez and draft

0:42:58.960 --> 0:43:01.839
<v Speaker 1>a receiver, they're probably bringing Bryce Butler back, right, and

0:43:01.920 --> 0:43:03.839
<v Speaker 1>so that would still just leave you with six, which

0:43:03.880 --> 0:43:05.600
<v Speaker 1>is the same number you But at some point, don't

0:43:05.600 --> 0:43:08.399
<v Speaker 1>you expect that that last guy on the roster at

0:43:08.400 --> 0:43:10.520
<v Speaker 1>wide receiver is going to have to do more than

0:43:10.560 --> 0:43:13.640
<v Speaker 1>just be the last guy on the roster right. Well

0:43:13.680 --> 0:43:18.000
<v Speaker 1>that but I'm Noah Brown. I mean he blocked, he

0:43:18.000 --> 0:43:20.080
<v Speaker 1>he played some special teams like he's not just like

0:43:20.080 --> 0:43:24.400
<v Speaker 1>a wasted use of a game. Jersey So started playing more. Yeah,

0:43:24.440 --> 0:43:27.239
<v Speaker 1>I don't that doesn't bother me right now, All right,

0:43:27.280 --> 0:43:29.640
<v Speaker 1>let's take Let's go ahead and get back to free agency.

0:43:29.680 --> 0:43:31.560
<v Speaker 1>Before we do that, though, Nick had a message for

0:43:31.600 --> 0:43:34.040
<v Speaker 1>all you loyal listeners out there. Well, I had a

0:43:34.120 --> 0:43:36.000
<v Speaker 1>question for Dave too. You know, if you are a

0:43:36.040 --> 0:43:41.319
<v Speaker 1>free agent, Yeah, would you rather be restricted or unrestricted? Unrestricted?

0:43:41.360 --> 0:43:45.680
<v Speaker 1>See that when it comes out underwear? So many more

0:43:45.680 --> 0:43:48.920
<v Speaker 1>benefits of unrestrict right, you can you can go different

0:43:49.040 --> 0:43:52.160
<v Speaker 1>different ways. How does that apply? So, Tommy John, no

0:43:52.239 --> 0:43:56.479
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0:43:56.560 --> 0:43:59.040
<v Speaker 1>Forward slash Cowboys. Where did Dave go? What's going on

0:43:59.040 --> 0:44:02.640
<v Speaker 1>in the struggle bus over? I happened. I hit the

0:44:02.719 --> 0:44:05.399
<v Speaker 1>lever on my chair and I didn't realize how far

0:44:05.440 --> 0:44:08.799
<v Speaker 1>down it went? Are you standing? I wish? Just why

0:44:08.840 --> 0:44:13.040
<v Speaker 1>do they stand up? My shoes got caught in the

0:44:13.080 --> 0:44:14.759
<v Speaker 1>chair too. It's a little. It was a debacle. I'm

0:44:14.760 --> 0:44:17.560
<v Speaker 1>glad that was all on that. That was worse than

0:44:17.560 --> 0:44:19.560
<v Speaker 1>than this joke that I had. So that's good at

0:44:19.640 --> 0:44:22.200
<v Speaker 1>offset that. Glad that was all on camera forever. Yeah,

0:44:22.239 --> 0:44:24.399
<v Speaker 1>well the camera wasn't on you, but as soon as

0:44:24.400 --> 0:44:26.839
<v Speaker 1>we said it would right to you on an ice. Fine,

0:44:26.880 --> 0:44:30.680
<v Speaker 1>that's fine, It's fine, awesome, Okay, back to Tommy John. Yes,

0:44:31.600 --> 0:44:35.000
<v Speaker 1>no adjustment needed, Tommy John dot com forward slash Cowboys

0:44:35.239 --> 0:44:39.760
<v Speaker 1>where they let Tommy John be you're unrestricted free agent

0:44:41.080 --> 0:44:46.880
<v Speaker 1>or exclusive rights free agent one of the two franchise

0:44:46.960 --> 0:44:49.480
<v Speaker 1>tag as well. But but let's go on, let's move on.

0:44:49.880 --> 0:44:52.920
<v Speaker 1>I'll keep my mouth. It is for the sake of saved.

0:44:53.800 --> 0:44:56.560
<v Speaker 1>Saved this final segment, please please, all right, let's get

0:44:56.560 --> 0:44:59.080
<v Speaker 1>back to free ag. I went south like you did, exactly.

0:44:59.320 --> 0:45:01.360
<v Speaker 1>I want to talk a Anthony Hitchins because he is

0:45:01.400 --> 0:45:03.440
<v Speaker 1>the guy, if you look at this list that will

0:45:03.480 --> 0:45:06.279
<v Speaker 1>probably generate the most interest in free agency this year

0:45:06.320 --> 0:45:09.400
<v Speaker 1>across the NFL. Not that he's gonna be, like you know,

0:45:09.520 --> 0:45:12.439
<v Speaker 1>priority one for a lot of teams, but he will

0:45:12.480 --> 0:45:13.680
<v Speaker 1>be a guy that I think there will be some

0:45:13.680 --> 0:45:16.320
<v Speaker 1>teams that will express some interest. What are your thoughts

0:45:16.400 --> 0:45:19.120
<v Speaker 1>on number one, how he played, and then number two,

0:45:19.160 --> 0:45:21.160
<v Speaker 1>whether you think it's even possible that the Cowboys could

0:45:21.160 --> 0:45:25.040
<v Speaker 1>bring him back understanding the cap ramifications of what they've

0:45:25.040 --> 0:45:26.799
<v Speaker 1>already done and what they're expected to do over the

0:45:26.800 --> 0:45:29.920
<v Speaker 1>next few weeks. I think he's a baller. I think

0:45:29.960 --> 0:45:31.919
<v Speaker 1>he had his best season. He missed like the first

0:45:31.960 --> 0:45:34.080
<v Speaker 1>month of the season because of the injury to his

0:45:34.160 --> 0:45:38.640
<v Speaker 1>knee in the preseason, still played like a total badass. Played,

0:45:38.800 --> 0:45:41.839
<v Speaker 1>can play, Mike, can play, Will could play Sam if

0:45:41.840 --> 0:45:43.480
<v Speaker 1>you needed him too, But why would you? Because he

0:45:43.520 --> 0:45:46.040
<v Speaker 1>can do the other two. He might be the toughest

0:45:46.080 --> 0:45:49.600
<v Speaker 1>player on the team. He gets hurt. I remember standing

0:45:49.640 --> 0:45:51.480
<v Speaker 1>there in Oakland. He got hurt in the end zone

0:45:51.560 --> 0:45:54.560
<v Speaker 1>right before the heath play. Never would have thought that

0:45:54.600 --> 0:45:57.160
<v Speaker 1>he's gonna play the next week and he but he does.

0:45:57.200 --> 0:45:59.760
<v Speaker 1>I mean he fights through it him. He's he's witting,

0:45:59.760 --> 0:46:01.880
<v Speaker 1>like on the defensive side. When it comes to that.

0:46:02.080 --> 0:46:04.480
<v Speaker 1>People will always talk about him getting hurt. But he

0:46:04.480 --> 0:46:06.640
<v Speaker 1>doesn't miss a lot of games. He really doesn't. He

0:46:06.680 --> 0:46:10.319
<v Speaker 1>came back. Can't he tell you that too? What made

0:46:10.320 --> 0:46:14.040
<v Speaker 1>I come into him? Yeah? I did? Yeah, you know, well?

0:46:14.120 --> 0:46:16.319
<v Speaker 1>And then and then what happened. He missed the next

0:46:16.320 --> 0:46:18.919
<v Speaker 1>four games, so maybe he shouldn't have been well. I mean,

0:46:19.480 --> 0:46:21.400
<v Speaker 1>he broke up, he broke a bone in his knee,

0:46:21.400 --> 0:46:24.080
<v Speaker 1>and yeah, he was backed by like October tenth or

0:46:24.120 --> 0:46:27.080
<v Speaker 1>whatever the Green Bay game was. I mean, he's not

0:46:27.120 --> 0:46:31.160
<v Speaker 1>an all pro, but he's he's he's just he's really good.

0:46:31.239 --> 0:46:33.960
<v Speaker 1>He's a glue guy, great locker room guy, not like

0:46:34.040 --> 0:46:38.359
<v Speaker 1>you know, good team character guy. Um, he's that guy

0:46:38.440 --> 0:46:40.400
<v Speaker 1>that it's like he got two phones and you're like

0:46:40.440 --> 0:46:42.919
<v Speaker 1>talking to his agent here and then you're talking about

0:46:42.960 --> 0:46:46.920
<v Speaker 1>Jaylen Smith's rehab over here, Like hold on, how are

0:46:46.920 --> 0:46:49.160
<v Speaker 1>we looking over here? Because if we're looking really good,

0:46:49.160 --> 0:46:51.560
<v Speaker 1>and then he's gonna have a chance to really be

0:46:51.760 --> 0:46:55.080
<v Speaker 1>much better than I I think it's just probably too

0:46:55.200 --> 0:46:57.120
<v Speaker 1>much to try to pay him here because you kind

0:46:57.160 --> 0:46:59.359
<v Speaker 1>of went for it with Jalen Smith, and I think

0:46:59.360 --> 0:47:01.480
<v Speaker 1>we're gonna see where Jalen's going to be a good player.

0:47:01.520 --> 0:47:03.640
<v Speaker 1>But I mean, and then the wild car obviously is

0:47:03.680 --> 0:47:06.080
<v Speaker 1>Sean Lee and his health. But I think I think

0:47:06.080 --> 0:47:07.640
<v Speaker 1>you gotta go get it. And you might have said

0:47:07.680 --> 0:47:10.560
<v Speaker 1>this last time we talk, get another hitchens, Yeah, draft

0:47:10.600 --> 0:47:13.080
<v Speaker 1>another guy, And they tried with I was gonna say,

0:47:13.120 --> 0:47:16.440
<v Speaker 1>that's not as easy as they tried with Damien Wilson. Wait, well,

0:47:16.960 --> 0:47:20.400
<v Speaker 1>I think Barry Church is a great corollary for Hitchens.

0:47:20.400 --> 0:47:22.560
<v Speaker 1>I think it's the same. You know, he's a glue guy,

0:47:22.800 --> 0:47:26.000
<v Speaker 1>good character guy, very good starter for your team. Not

0:47:26.280 --> 0:47:28.799
<v Speaker 1>probably not ever going to be a pro bowler. He's

0:47:28.880 --> 0:47:31.400
<v Speaker 1>not gonna be in headlines about free agency. You know.

0:47:31.520 --> 0:47:33.640
<v Speaker 1>I read a free agency preview where like he wasn't

0:47:33.640 --> 0:47:35.960
<v Speaker 1>even on the short list of linebacker, which I thought

0:47:36.040 --> 0:47:38.839
<v Speaker 1>was kind of insulting. But I think, you know, I

0:47:38.840 --> 0:47:41.480
<v Speaker 1>think a team would give him twenty to thirty millions.

0:47:41.560 --> 0:47:44.120
<v Speaker 1>I mean, Barry got twenty six in Jacksonville. He wasn't

0:47:44.160 --> 0:47:46.440
<v Speaker 1>even I think he was the fourth biggest signing they

0:47:46.440 --> 0:47:48.399
<v Speaker 1>made last year. But he was obviously a key part

0:47:48.400 --> 0:47:50.560
<v Speaker 1>of that defense that got them to the conference title game.

0:47:50.760 --> 0:47:53.680
<v Speaker 1>I see something similar for him, Like he's not going

0:47:53.719 --> 0:47:55.440
<v Speaker 1>to break the bank, but it'll probably be more than

0:47:55.480 --> 0:47:58.200
<v Speaker 1>the Cowboys gonna afford with the structure of everything else

0:47:58.200 --> 0:47:59.640
<v Speaker 1>they have to do. But he might be one of

0:47:59.680 --> 0:48:01.680
<v Speaker 1>those guys that it, like you said, if he's not

0:48:01.760 --> 0:48:04.520
<v Speaker 1>in that first wave of stuff, he might be a

0:48:04.520 --> 0:48:07.200
<v Speaker 1>guy that that now the Cowboys start and they call

0:48:07.280 --> 0:48:10.440
<v Speaker 1>him back and say, all right, and it's been a week. Um,

0:48:10.560 --> 0:48:12.759
<v Speaker 1>I love. I feel like I have to point this out.

0:48:12.760 --> 0:48:15.600
<v Speaker 1>I mean I spent all last spring just saying by

0:48:15.680 --> 0:48:18.319
<v Speaker 1>the Terrence like, no way, no how, and sure enough

0:48:18.400 --> 0:48:21.839
<v Speaker 1>they signed back. So anything's possible. But if I had

0:48:21.880 --> 0:48:23.600
<v Speaker 1>to bet on it, I think he'll get a better

0:48:23.600 --> 0:48:26.160
<v Speaker 1>offer from somebody else. And I actually talked to Stephen

0:48:26.360 --> 0:48:29.400
<v Speaker 1>another example of thirty one is better than one, just

0:48:29.480 --> 0:48:32.319
<v Speaker 1>in general, unless you're playing golf the field most part,

0:48:33.040 --> 0:48:35.640
<v Speaker 1>thirty one teams yes, seem to thank you, right. And

0:48:35.760 --> 0:48:37.040
<v Speaker 1>you look at the amount of money that's out there

0:48:37.040 --> 0:48:39.279
<v Speaker 1>in free agents. I mean that's there caps there. There's

0:48:39.320 --> 0:48:41.320
<v Speaker 1>a team that has one hundred million dollars in cap space,

0:48:41.360 --> 0:48:43.600
<v Speaker 1>So there are teams that have a plenty of money

0:48:43.600 --> 0:48:46.920
<v Speaker 1>to spend Browns. I think it's Cleveland. Yeah, I think

0:48:46.920 --> 0:48:48.920
<v Speaker 1>there's one hundred different but I think there's another one

0:48:48.960 --> 0:48:50.920
<v Speaker 1>has like eighty nine. Like, there's teams that have a

0:48:51.040 --> 0:48:54.560
<v Speaker 1>bi a month, gonna be good billion dollars in cap space. Yeah,

0:48:54.560 --> 0:48:56.319
<v Speaker 1>there's a lot of room out there for teams. So

0:48:56.520 --> 0:48:58.239
<v Speaker 1>that's what makes it really hard for the Cowboys. Is

0:48:58.239 --> 0:49:00.319
<v Speaker 1>that not Not only he's a good player, but there

0:49:00.320 --> 0:49:01.600
<v Speaker 1>are a lot of teams with a lot of money

0:49:01.640 --> 0:49:03.520
<v Speaker 1>that are trying to fill holes that will do it

0:49:03.560 --> 0:49:05.840
<v Speaker 1>with free agency. We talked to Stephen about that in India,

0:49:05.880 --> 0:49:09.840
<v Speaker 1>and I mean they need two linebackers because Wilbur and

0:49:09.920 --> 0:49:12.000
<v Speaker 1>Hitchins are both free agents. Whether they bring them back,

0:49:12.320 --> 0:49:15.239
<v Speaker 1>whether they sign another guy and draft another guy, I

0:49:15.280 --> 0:49:18.359
<v Speaker 1>think linebackers another spot where it's a pretty good bet

0:49:18.360 --> 0:49:20.080
<v Speaker 1>they'll find a way to draft one. Do they talk

0:49:20.120 --> 0:49:24.439
<v Speaker 1>at all about about Damien Wilson and kind of where

0:49:24.480 --> 0:49:26.440
<v Speaker 1>he is at this point? Are they relying on him,

0:49:26.520 --> 0:49:27.960
<v Speaker 1>do they want to do they want to see more

0:49:27.960 --> 0:49:29.759
<v Speaker 1>opportunities for him. Do they feel like if they let

0:49:29.800 --> 0:49:32.560
<v Speaker 1>Hitchens go he fills that role or is it just

0:49:32.600 --> 0:49:34.160
<v Speaker 1>one of situations where they kind of like he is

0:49:34.200 --> 0:49:36.239
<v Speaker 1>what he is, will roll out the contract, We'll finish

0:49:36.280 --> 0:49:38.680
<v Speaker 1>out the contract and that's it. I do not think

0:49:38.719 --> 0:49:43.399
<v Speaker 1>his name came up, So do with that what you will,

0:49:43.480 --> 0:49:46.840
<v Speaker 1>although depending on how things shake out, I think, you know,

0:49:46.920 --> 0:49:49.839
<v Speaker 1>he's probably your primary candidate to play Sam or at

0:49:49.880 --> 0:49:51.440
<v Speaker 1>least one of them, and then he can make a

0:49:51.480 --> 0:49:54.000
<v Speaker 1>push if they want him too. But I don't think

0:49:54.040 --> 0:49:58.919
<v Speaker 1>we really talked about it. Okay, I think nineteen could

0:49:59.000 --> 0:50:03.919
<v Speaker 1>be possible for you know, linebacker. Well, there's really only

0:50:03.960 --> 0:50:07.239
<v Speaker 1>two in the first round, and that I guess one

0:50:07.239 --> 0:50:09.399
<v Speaker 1>of him could fall if these quarterbacks jump up there

0:50:09.480 --> 0:50:12.560
<v Speaker 1>with the two pens On Smith in Edmonds, but I

0:50:12.560 --> 0:50:17.320
<v Speaker 1>don't Tremaine Edmunds is there Boys State, He's he's boys

0:50:17.320 --> 0:50:20.880
<v Speaker 1>the state. It was six names is coming up there, Layton, Layton,

0:50:21.080 --> 0:50:26.320
<v Speaker 1>vander Esh that's only three. Whatever he's climbing, he's climbing

0:50:26.400 --> 0:50:29.000
<v Speaker 1>up the arguy will mess it up. He's claiming up

0:50:29.040 --> 0:50:31.719
<v Speaker 1>the prospect board. I don't know. He looks like Sean

0:50:31.800 --> 0:50:36.200
<v Speaker 1>Lee Tomy like with watching him, watching him, No big guy,

0:50:36.440 --> 0:50:40.200
<v Speaker 1>he's he's just good size. I heard him compared to Urlocker.

0:50:40.280 --> 0:50:42.160
<v Speaker 1>I don't know if he's tall and like that. I

0:50:42.160 --> 0:50:46.800
<v Speaker 1>don't know if I mean well, I didn't like the comparison.

0:50:46.840 --> 0:50:50.160
<v Speaker 1>I haven't seen Layton and Van Durash returned punts like

0:50:50.440 --> 0:50:53.040
<v Speaker 1>Erlacker did in college. He was the point east. I

0:50:54.320 --> 0:50:57.759
<v Speaker 1>resolved me and Brian both Dane Brugler convinced this that

0:50:57.800 --> 0:50:59.520
<v Speaker 1>we need to watch him again because I didn't love

0:50:59.600 --> 0:51:01.960
<v Speaker 1>him when I watched him, I was like, Okay, you're

0:51:02.000 --> 0:51:04.880
<v Speaker 1>pretty good. I guess I don't know, but can I

0:51:04.920 --> 0:51:06.799
<v Speaker 1>get your thoughts? I don't know where this is on

0:51:06.840 --> 0:51:09.239
<v Speaker 1>your list, but since we're talking these guys, can I

0:51:09.280 --> 0:51:14.239
<v Speaker 1>would just get your thoughts on Shaquine Griffin? What do

0:51:14.280 --> 0:51:16.040
<v Speaker 1>you need my thoughts for? Like, he put it all

0:51:16.080 --> 0:51:18.640
<v Speaker 1>out there for everybody, right, But would you but would

0:51:18.680 --> 0:51:22.719
<v Speaker 1>you draft him knowing that he could play in the NFL? Yes?

0:51:22.800 --> 0:51:26.120
<v Speaker 1>Where would you draft him? Fourth round pick one sixteen?

0:51:26.280 --> 0:51:29.160
<v Speaker 1>And where does he play for this team? I would

0:51:29.360 --> 0:51:32.360
<v Speaker 1>he would be a special team's monster, and then you

0:51:32.440 --> 0:51:36.480
<v Speaker 1>put him out there in certain situations like pass rush situations.

0:51:36.480 --> 0:51:39.160
<v Speaker 1>I'd put him on the field in that um three

0:51:39.200 --> 0:51:42.200
<v Speaker 1>down linemen whatever you know, money forty four or whatever.

0:51:42.600 --> 0:51:46.799
<v Speaker 1>Let him be just a designated pass rusher. Basically, he's

0:51:46.960 --> 0:51:49.640
<v Speaker 1>fast as hell and he gets to the quarterback. He's

0:51:50.200 --> 0:51:52.319
<v Speaker 1>unbelieved when when I when I think about him, and

0:51:52.360 --> 0:51:55.120
<v Speaker 1>I think about, Okay, every play, here comes a guard

0:51:55.160 --> 0:51:58.799
<v Speaker 1>that's pulling, and you know this, here's big sixty six

0:51:58.880 --> 0:52:00.840
<v Speaker 1>for the Packers and he's got to shed this block.

0:52:02.360 --> 0:52:04.359
<v Speaker 1>You think he could get get by that? I mean

0:52:04.400 --> 0:52:06.719
<v Speaker 1>with what he's overcome in his life to be able

0:52:06.760 --> 0:52:09.799
<v Speaker 1>to to to bench press twenty reps like that. I

0:52:09.800 --> 0:52:12.760
<v Speaker 1>mean like he's overcome this his whole life. So nothing

0:52:12.920 --> 0:52:14.360
<v Speaker 1>that is put on in front of him in a

0:52:14.360 --> 0:52:17.239
<v Speaker 1>football field's ever really going to to be something that

0:52:17.280 --> 0:52:19.000
<v Speaker 1>he can't overcome, you know what I mean? To me,

0:52:19.000 --> 0:52:21.200
<v Speaker 1>he seems like a winner, like he can he can

0:52:21.200 --> 0:52:24.640
<v Speaker 1>figure it. I mean out I guarrant if they haven't already,

0:52:24.880 --> 0:52:26.440
<v Speaker 1>well I don't. I don't know if they met with

0:52:26.520 --> 0:52:28.239
<v Speaker 1>him at the combine. I have no idea if they're

0:52:28.280 --> 0:52:30.600
<v Speaker 1>going to try to bring him here, but they will

0:52:30.600 --> 0:52:33.120
<v Speaker 1>fall in love with his personality. He's that, he's well,

0:52:33.200 --> 0:52:35.160
<v Speaker 1>he's that in here. No, yeah, well I don't want

0:52:35.200 --> 0:52:36.759
<v Speaker 1>I don't know who he met with or you know

0:52:36.800 --> 0:52:39.719
<v Speaker 1>one the Jason wittne War Yeah he was right from Yeah, Um,

0:52:40.120 --> 0:52:43.160
<v Speaker 1>he's he's got an infectious personality. He'd be an amazing

0:52:43.200 --> 0:52:45.440
<v Speaker 1>locker room guy. You kind of lose me when you

0:52:45.440 --> 0:52:47.719
<v Speaker 1>start talking about like the third round, because I want

0:52:47.760 --> 0:52:49.839
<v Speaker 1>a starter. I want a full time starter in the

0:52:49.840 --> 0:52:53.480
<v Speaker 1>third round. I don't I'm not willing to make that jump.

0:52:53.640 --> 0:52:57.120
<v Speaker 1>And so but we'll pick one sixteen have him be

0:52:57.280 --> 0:52:59.799
<v Speaker 1>on all your special teams, be a great locker room guy,

0:53:00.080 --> 0:53:02.440
<v Speaker 1>probably would be a captain at some point in his career,

0:53:03.040 --> 0:53:04.640
<v Speaker 1>and then he can come in and do stuff like

0:53:04.680 --> 0:53:08.080
<v Speaker 1>rush the passer and disrupt plays. Absolutely. The closest example

0:53:08.080 --> 0:53:10.640
<v Speaker 1>that we've really seen the NFL is JPP. He lost

0:53:10.719 --> 0:53:14.240
<v Speaker 1>his hand or part of his hand in that fireworks accident,

0:53:14.320 --> 0:53:17.000
<v Speaker 1>and you listen to the people talk about his play

0:53:17.000 --> 0:53:19.480
<v Speaker 1>in New York. He's not the same player. He's still

0:53:19.480 --> 0:53:22.360
<v Speaker 1>a good player, not the same player, And that's the

0:53:22.400 --> 0:53:24.800
<v Speaker 1>only thing that makes me a little bit concerned. And again,

0:53:24.840 --> 0:53:28.600
<v Speaker 1>you're right. What this kid has overcome suggests that he

0:53:28.640 --> 0:53:30.520
<v Speaker 1>has the ability to overcome a lot more than the

0:53:30.520 --> 0:53:33.279
<v Speaker 1>average person. I just don't know, because I've never played

0:53:33.320 --> 0:53:36.560
<v Speaker 1>linebacker in the NFL. How valuable is that hand, Like,

0:53:36.719 --> 0:53:39.000
<v Speaker 1>are there certain things that without that hand you're not

0:53:39.040 --> 0:53:41.560
<v Speaker 1>gonna be able? You just can't. Not seen players play

0:53:41.600 --> 0:53:45.600
<v Speaker 1>with a club yet. And that's but again, that's equivalent.

0:53:45.640 --> 0:53:49.279
<v Speaker 1>You're right. JPP was pick eleven and he's a franchise

0:53:49.400 --> 0:53:52.800
<v Speaker 1>caliber pass rusher. That's I'm not drafting not equivalent. Hold on,

0:53:52.920 --> 0:53:55.680
<v Speaker 1>real quick, it's not equivalent because when you play with

0:53:55.719 --> 0:53:57.680
<v Speaker 1>that you wrap it up and now you're like, oh,

0:53:57.680 --> 0:54:00.759
<v Speaker 1>this is weird since he was five, never done it before.

0:54:00.800 --> 0:54:03.040
<v Speaker 1>And also here's another thing. Is it a twin or

0:54:03.080 --> 0:54:06.160
<v Speaker 1>just an older brother twin twin? Okay, so when you

0:54:06.200 --> 0:54:10.800
<v Speaker 1>have a twin brother, especially one that that has more capabilities,

0:54:11.040 --> 0:54:13.520
<v Speaker 1>he's been he's been battling his whole They even asked

0:54:13.600 --> 0:54:16.920
<v Speaker 1>him after the forty what we were thinking. It was

0:54:16.920 --> 0:54:19.120
<v Speaker 1>that faster than my brother. I mean, like, this guy's

0:54:19.160 --> 0:54:21.759
<v Speaker 1>been doing this his whole life, so he understands. It's

0:54:21.800 --> 0:54:24.040
<v Speaker 1>like Jim Abbott when he was pitching that guy, I understand,

0:54:24.080 --> 0:54:25.520
<v Speaker 1>you know, knew how to put the glove here, and

0:54:26.120 --> 0:54:27.600
<v Speaker 1>because that's just what you do, is what you do,

0:54:27.640 --> 0:54:29.480
<v Speaker 1>he knows how to do it. He'll he'll get more

0:54:29.480 --> 0:54:34.720
<v Speaker 1>turnovers than Honestly, I think Jalen's case would have worried

0:54:34.800 --> 0:54:39.000
<v Speaker 1>me more than him. Yeah, good point. I wouldn't, but

0:54:39.040 --> 0:54:42.239
<v Speaker 1>I wouldn't draft him to play sixty defensive snaps a game.

0:54:42.360 --> 0:54:44.799
<v Speaker 1>That's I'm I'm looking at him on day three. I've

0:54:44.840 --> 0:54:46.839
<v Speaker 1>heard people say they'd draft him in the third round,

0:54:46.880 --> 0:54:49.759
<v Speaker 1>and that seems early to me because I want a

0:54:49.760 --> 0:54:52.280
<v Speaker 1>guy that's drafted in the third round to play every snap.

0:54:52.640 --> 0:54:54.120
<v Speaker 1>I don't think I would draft him to do that,

0:54:54.239 --> 0:54:56.400
<v Speaker 1>but I think he could be a hell of an

0:54:56.400 --> 0:54:59.160
<v Speaker 1>addition as a role player for any team. And I

0:54:59.160 --> 0:55:01.120
<v Speaker 1>don't think I don't I think anybody's gonna be afraid

0:55:01.120 --> 0:55:03.960
<v Speaker 1>of drafting him. I think everybody's gonna have an idea

0:55:04.000 --> 0:55:05.719
<v Speaker 1>of what they could do with him. Since Nick took

0:55:05.760 --> 0:55:07.400
<v Speaker 1>us there, give me a couple names of some other

0:55:07.480 --> 0:55:09.600
<v Speaker 1>guys that did out to you at the Combine that

0:55:09.680 --> 0:55:12.480
<v Speaker 1>you think are worthy of Cowboys fans keeping an eye on. So,

0:55:12.640 --> 0:55:15.960
<v Speaker 1>I mean, good players did good things at the Combine

0:55:16.400 --> 0:55:20.120
<v Speaker 1>that also would be available to the Cowboys. Put me

0:55:20.160 --> 0:55:24.680
<v Speaker 1>on the spot, Um, I think one way or another,

0:55:24.760 --> 0:55:27.320
<v Speaker 1>I think a good receiver will be there for them somewhere,

0:55:27.480 --> 0:55:29.560
<v Speaker 1>Like it's just too good of a receiver class, and

0:55:30.040 --> 0:55:33.839
<v Speaker 1>Calvin Ridley, he didn't blow people away with his measurable help.

0:55:34.000 --> 0:55:37.000
<v Speaker 1>Get Yeah, absolutely, I'm you know it'll be dicey, but

0:55:37.080 --> 0:55:38.640
<v Speaker 1>I think he'll be in that range. And if he

0:55:38.680 --> 0:55:41.720
<v Speaker 1>doesn't get to nineteen, then he could at least fall

0:55:42.160 --> 0:55:44.359
<v Speaker 1>to a spot where you feel comfortable trading up for him.

0:55:44.400 --> 0:55:46.400
<v Speaker 1>If you would, You would you think he's good enough

0:55:46.440 --> 0:55:47.719
<v Speaker 1>that you would give up picks in order to move

0:55:47.800 --> 0:55:49.799
<v Speaker 1>up to get him. No, because there's so many other

0:55:49.840 --> 0:55:53.040
<v Speaker 1>I mean, my guy DJ Moore, he's probably he moved

0:55:53.080 --> 0:55:56.080
<v Speaker 1>himself into the first round conversation. He measured in way taller,

0:55:56.120 --> 0:55:58.040
<v Speaker 1>the way taller than people thought he would with three

0:55:58.080 --> 0:56:01.160
<v Speaker 1>inches tall, way faster. Um, can I change it? Can

0:56:01.200 --> 0:56:05.320
<v Speaker 1>I change the question? Does is released? Yeah? You didn't

0:56:05.400 --> 0:56:10.120
<v Speaker 1>really love what you got in free agency? I mean, okay,

0:56:10.400 --> 0:56:12.440
<v Speaker 1>you got Bryce and you got what it is. You

0:56:12.520 --> 0:56:15.520
<v Speaker 1>got a guy from there. There's gotta be a body.

0:56:15.640 --> 0:56:18.000
<v Speaker 1>There's gotta be a guy that I'm saying, but yeah,

0:56:18.040 --> 0:56:20.920
<v Speaker 1>that's Bryce. We've all agreed. Another guy. You got a

0:56:20.960 --> 0:56:23.399
<v Speaker 1>guy for you who I don't I can't think of one.

0:56:23.440 --> 0:56:25.399
<v Speaker 1>I don't even know who's available. But you just got

0:56:25.480 --> 0:56:30.400
<v Speaker 1>someone that's whatever. So now Ridley is that fifteen sixteen?

0:56:30.440 --> 0:56:32.439
<v Speaker 1>Still wouldn't do it, Still wouldn't trade on Okay, Okay,

0:56:33.080 --> 0:56:34.560
<v Speaker 1>I mean that does a lot about what you think

0:56:34.560 --> 0:56:39.160
<v Speaker 1>of Ridley, right, I just I mean Dane, he's he

0:56:39.239 --> 0:56:42.480
<v Speaker 1>describes him as a great number. He'll be an awesome

0:56:42.600 --> 0:56:44.600
<v Speaker 1>number two receiver in the NFL. He might be the

0:56:44.600 --> 0:56:46.600
<v Speaker 1>best number two in the league. You trade up for

0:56:46.640 --> 0:56:50.279
<v Speaker 1>that I'm not is there a number one? If he's

0:56:50.280 --> 0:56:52.279
<v Speaker 1>a top rated receiver, then is there a number one

0:56:52.280 --> 0:56:54.799
<v Speaker 1>receiver in this class? Now you can project now. I

0:56:54.840 --> 0:56:56.880
<v Speaker 1>know that there will be people that we don't see today.

0:56:57.040 --> 0:56:59.880
<v Speaker 1>I'm just stealing words out of Dane's mouth. But like, Okay,

0:57:00.080 --> 0:57:02.960
<v Speaker 1>Courtland Sutton is a guy that could develop into a

0:57:03.080 --> 0:57:06.040
<v Speaker 1>one receiver. He's also probably the rawest of all of

0:57:06.080 --> 0:57:09.440
<v Speaker 1>the make helping Cowboys right now right now, which the

0:57:09.760 --> 0:57:12.320
<v Speaker 1>dudes that you're looking at are like ready made number

0:57:12.320 --> 0:57:14.319
<v Speaker 1>twos who could come in here right away. I mean

0:57:14.760 --> 0:57:17.960
<v Speaker 1>Dj Moore, Calvin Ridley, Michael Gallup is another one that

0:57:18.080 --> 0:57:20.480
<v Speaker 1>people like a lot um. What I love about Dj

0:57:20.640 --> 0:57:23.280
<v Speaker 1>Moore that that I think fits this team so well

0:57:23.880 --> 0:57:25.880
<v Speaker 1>is just the sheer number of quarterbacks he's had to

0:57:25.920 --> 0:57:28.120
<v Speaker 1>play with and he's been productive with all of them.

0:57:28.200 --> 0:57:31.280
<v Speaker 1>And when you're talking about a young quarterback that the

0:57:31.320 --> 0:57:34.080
<v Speaker 1>Cowboys have, that just gives me a little more. That

0:57:34.200 --> 0:57:36.320
<v Speaker 1>makes me think that he's the kind of receiver that's

0:57:36.320 --> 0:57:39.200
<v Speaker 1>gonna get open present himself. Well, it's just quarterback will

0:57:39.200 --> 0:57:40.600
<v Speaker 1>be able to make easy throws to get it to

0:57:40.640 --> 0:57:43.000
<v Speaker 1>him and then he'll make play. I'm at SMU quarterback

0:57:43.040 --> 0:57:45.800
<v Speaker 1>that was in the in the league. No, he's not.

0:57:45.960 --> 0:57:48.840
<v Speaker 1>That's what gets That's what gets me about Courtland Suttland,

0:57:48.880 --> 0:57:52.400
<v Speaker 1>a Sutton, He's he's playing now. I'm just saying that

0:57:52.520 --> 0:57:55.160
<v Speaker 1>just the number, the number that Dj Moore's had to

0:57:55.200 --> 0:57:58.080
<v Speaker 1>play with and been productive with those guys like that,

0:57:58.200 --> 0:57:59.720
<v Speaker 1>just to me, that blows my mind when you think

0:57:59.720 --> 0:58:01.919
<v Speaker 1>about sheer number of quarterbacks. You don't have to sell

0:58:01.960 --> 0:58:05.280
<v Speaker 1>me on Dj Moore. I just worry. I'm so but

0:58:05.360 --> 0:58:08.400
<v Speaker 1>I like him so much. I think he moved himself

0:58:08.400 --> 0:58:11.680
<v Speaker 1>into the first round at the Combine and I absolutely

0:58:11.680 --> 0:58:13.840
<v Speaker 1>would you, but I don't think the Cowboys would draft

0:58:13.920 --> 0:58:17.000
<v Speaker 1>him at nineteen. So it almost feels futile to talk about.

0:58:17.040 --> 0:58:19.040
<v Speaker 1>But do you think that this is a situation where

0:58:19.040 --> 0:58:21.240
<v Speaker 1>the Cowboys would be if let's say he's moved himself

0:58:21.240 --> 0:58:23.080
<v Speaker 1>in the first round but it's late first round, does

0:58:23.080 --> 0:58:26.040
<v Speaker 1>that present an opportunity maybe where you drop back because

0:58:26.080 --> 0:58:27.760
<v Speaker 1>you feel like eating a lot of guys we like.

0:58:28.000 --> 0:58:29.840
<v Speaker 1>If we got back to twenty three, we might still

0:58:29.880 --> 0:58:34.080
<v Speaker 1>be able to trading down the board. Trading down the

0:58:34.120 --> 0:58:38.720
<v Speaker 1>board would be my absolute ideal scenario because whether it's

0:58:38.800 --> 0:58:42.080
<v Speaker 1>DJ Moore whether it's Will Hernandez, the guard from Utah,

0:58:42.160 --> 0:58:46.920
<v Speaker 1>whether it's Isaiah Winnut he's huge, whether it's one of

0:58:46.920 --> 0:58:49.280
<v Speaker 1>the tight ends. What there's a variety of guys that

0:58:49.320 --> 0:58:51.720
<v Speaker 1>should be there between twenty and thirty two that I

0:58:51.720 --> 0:58:54.040
<v Speaker 1>would feel just fine taking, especially if you can add

0:58:54.080 --> 0:58:57.560
<v Speaker 1>another pick to that. The problem is who's who's so

0:58:57.640 --> 0:58:59.960
<v Speaker 1>desperate to get up? We're talking about how bad your options.

0:59:00.160 --> 0:59:02.560
<v Speaker 1>That's where you hope those one of those quarterbacks is

0:59:02.560 --> 0:59:04.920
<v Speaker 1>still sitting there and somebody wants to get up. Damn him, right,

0:59:05.200 --> 0:59:08.280
<v Speaker 1>you hope? But I mean, you know I always won him.

0:59:09.200 --> 0:59:12.160
<v Speaker 1>The Saints are a team that like love that people

0:59:12.240 --> 0:59:15.600
<v Speaker 1>love to put Lamar Jackson. Maybe that's an option. Maybe

0:59:15.640 --> 0:59:17.600
<v Speaker 1>they feel like he'll keep falling. I mean, how many

0:59:17.680 --> 0:59:19.960
<v Speaker 1>teams between the Cowboys and the Saints need a quarterback?

0:59:19.960 --> 0:59:22.200
<v Speaker 1>The Bills come to mind, a lot of people think

0:59:22.240 --> 0:59:24.760
<v Speaker 1>the Bills might trade up into the tens or whatever,

0:59:24.800 --> 0:59:27.840
<v Speaker 1>like the Chiefs did last year. So it's I don't

0:59:27.880 --> 0:59:30.680
<v Speaker 1>I've never been more clueless about what the first round

0:59:30.680 --> 0:59:32.360
<v Speaker 1>in the draft looks like it's gonna be. Like I

0:59:32.360 --> 0:59:34.919
<v Speaker 1>think it's gonna be. Really I said this way back,

0:59:35.200 --> 0:59:37.640
<v Speaker 1>you know, a few months ago that the biggest move

0:59:37.680 --> 0:59:40.080
<v Speaker 1>of the offseason, the biggest decision is Deaz because that

0:59:40.480 --> 0:59:43.720
<v Speaker 1>everything we're talking about is different whether or not he's

0:59:43.720 --> 0:59:45.800
<v Speaker 1>on the team, right, absolutely, all right, we appreciate you

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<v Speaker 1>join us back next week. These guys will take you

0:59:48.360 --> 0:59:50.520
<v Speaker 1>through free agency. That I'll be the beginning of free agency.

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