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Speaker 1: It is Friday the thirteenth. Do not walk under any ladders.

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Speaker 1: Do not say candy man and then repeat that same

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Speaker 3: Clay?

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Speaker 1: What are the other rules for superstition? The occult and

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Speaker 1: Friday the thirteenth?

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Speaker 4: For those of us who grew up in a certain region,

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Speaker 4: I don't think it was well known. We were told,

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Speaker 4: don't screw around with the bell Witch. Have you ever

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Speaker 4: heard of the Bellwitch legend?

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Speaker 1: B E L L.

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Speaker 4: They kind of based you remember the movie, the handheld

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Speaker 1: Real talk here for a second, real talk here, Clay,

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Speaker 1: we're friends. Did you have a banjo growing up? Like

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Speaker 4: They made the They based the Blair Witch project to

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Speaker 4: a certain extent, on some of the legacy of the Bellwitch.

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Speaker 4: But back in the day when the Bellwitch was the

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Speaker 4: one that we focused on the most and actually the Bell.

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Speaker 1: What's the story of the Belwich. I don't know anything.

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Speaker 4: Bellewitch is very famous. In fact, Andrew Jackson back in

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Speaker 4: still tour. I think it's kind of had a new

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Speaker 4: life on YouTube because there's a lot of these kids,

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Speaker 4: and just take their own personal YouTube paraphernalia, you have

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Speaker 4: film it. It's super popular, you know. I know they've

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Speaker 4: done television shows about this, but it's there's a certain

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Speaker 4: And so there's been part in the term, a resurrection

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Speaker 1: I think well written. So I'm not a horror genre

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Speaker 1: anything that I don't like. The slasher genre is what

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Speaker 1: that stuff I think can be can be very well done.

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Speaker 1: Uh and I think as far more effective as actual

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Speaker 1: but the Slash thirteen back in the day slasher films,

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Speaker 1: genre for a while because dollars in, dollars out. It

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Speaker 1: case that horror movies were the most profitable genre of

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Speaker 1: your costs like fake blood? You know, a hockey mask? People?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, the bloom I think it's Jason Bloomhouse has made

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Speaker 4: You're still right the horror universe is the most profitable.

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Speaker 4: Let me give you a couple of things here. The

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Speaker 4: Conjuring movies are incredible. Have you watched the Conjuring.

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Speaker 1: Movies and have not seen those? Have not seen them?

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Speaker 4: I think you would like them because they're basically it's

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Speaker 4: are they're basically exorcists. They're investigating on behalf of religion,

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Speaker 4: Like they are really well done. I don't know what

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Speaker 4: Let me give you the conjuring are really good. Since

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Speaker 1: I think those are more crime thriller than they are horror.

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Speaker 4: They're not supremely gory to your point. So they're they're

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Speaker 1: You're even talking about you doing acting. You played yourself?

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Speaker 4: Come on, come on, But I've played myself. But I

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Speaker 1: This is where I get to remind everybody, this is

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Speaker 1: where the history nerd comes out. Actors throughout history were

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Speaker 1: He was always like. He was always like, Chase is

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Speaker 4: So I watched Paranormal Activity and I was afraid to

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Speaker 4: I was probably probably thirty, probably fifteen years ago.

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Speaker 1: Now I know, I was the one doing all the

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Speaker 5: But you guys are so right. You guys are cracking

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Speaker 5: you said, Clay, You're you're out there playing ball. You're

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Speaker 5: But like you said, you're sitting sometimes on the set

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Speaker 4: Look, if you could do a scene one time and

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Speaker 2: Sundays with Clay and Buck.

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Speaker 1: All right, Clay, I you know I don't want you

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Speaker 4: I got to give credit to the diligent production team

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Speaker 4: I think last week I made the indisputable argument that

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Speaker 4: of you you disagreed with that because you.

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Speaker 3: Were wrong and I was right.

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Speaker 4: Ringo Star, kind of a famous guy, former Beatle Ringo Starr,

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Speaker 2: Do you think what's happening with Taylor Swift could be

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Speaker 6: I think Taylor Swift is great anyway, and she's pulling

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Speaker 1: The Beatles themselves do hold on, hold On, Hold on

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Speaker 1: is Taylor Swift closer to the Beatles than Bad Bunny? Sure?

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Speaker 4: Come on, get If Ringo had no idea he was

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Speaker 1: But to see the frenzy of like a Beatlemania, that

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Speaker 4: He just said he met her when she was fourteen.

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Speaker 4: She's already had a twenty year career. It's extraordinary.

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Speaker 1: I mean, look, it's this is not like a controversial

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Speaker 4: Before I eviscerate you with more brilliant analysis here of

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Speaker 1: I refuse. I'm willing to celebrate the romance with the

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Speaker 1: one that you know matters matters most to you in

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Speaker 1: the in the world, and your romantic partner. I'm I'm

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Speaker 1: willing to play this game. Okay, so people don't feel

436
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Speaker 1: left out, that's fine. But this notion that I have

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Speaker 1: to do it on the same Saturday night as every

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Speaker 1: other poor schlub in the country like me who would

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Speaker 1: be dragged out to restaurants that this is This is

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Speaker 1: the true reality of Valentine's Day. Restaurants give you their

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Speaker 1: c game. At best, they roll out prefixed menus, so

442
00:23:00,440 --> 00:23:02,920
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, you're paying twice as much for

443
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Speaker 1: some cheap sparkling white wine that they're gonna call champagne

444
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Speaker 1: and a tiny little glass and some rubber chicken that

445
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Speaker 1: you have no choice. It's rubber chicken or like pasta

446
00:23:11,560 --> 00:23:13,480
Speaker 1: that they brought in. All of a sudden, you're having

447
00:23:13,520 --> 00:23:16,840
Speaker 1: banquet food. Whatever restaurant you go to, they're downscaling you,

448
00:23:16,920 --> 00:23:19,639
Speaker 1: but they're up charging you and you have no choice.

449
00:23:19,720 --> 00:23:22,159
Speaker 1: In fact, you're supposed to be grateful for getting the

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Speaker 1: reservation because it's Valentine's Day. My friends, this is a scam.

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Speaker 1: This is a scam.

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Speaker 7: Gentlemen.

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Speaker 1: Don't fall for it. Take your woman or take your

454
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Speaker 1: man whatever, take him out tonight. Make Valentine's Day Friday

455
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Speaker 1: your move, because if you're going out to restaurants anywhere

456
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Speaker 1: across the country. You're gonna have people trying to sell

457
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Speaker 1: you roses at the table that you don't want to

458
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Speaker 1: deal with. You're gonna have people that are trying to

459
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Speaker 1: get you on the prefixed menu. You're paying a lot more.

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Speaker 1: You're gonna wait. And but you know what happens when

461
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Speaker 1: the service is bad on Valentine's Day? Do you have

462
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Speaker 1: a salty server? They go, m sorry, it's Valentine's Day.

463
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Speaker 1: They think it's amateur night, and they treat it as such.

464
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Speaker 1: It's like going out on New Year's Eve to dinner.

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Speaker 1: You're getting scammed. And I'm here to tell you go

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Speaker 1: out tonight or go out for Valentine's Day brunch on Sunday. Value, baby,

467
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Speaker 1: get your value.

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Speaker 4: I hope that some of the men that do not

469
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Speaker 4: have Valentine's Day dinner dates booked use that buck argument

470
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Speaker 4: and take your girls.

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Speaker 3: On Friday or Sunday. I always say this, it is

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Speaker 3: never ending.

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Speaker 4: The guy who goes into the restaurant and tries to

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Speaker 4: get seated without a reservation on Valentine's Day. I may

475
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Speaker 4: have been that guy before. You go to like eight

476
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Speaker 4: different restaurants and you're like how long's the wait And

477
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Speaker 4: they're like four hours and we can seat you at

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Speaker 4: ten forty five. Like that doesn't seem very good, and

479
00:24:43,600 --> 00:24:45,879
Speaker 4: you have to keep getting back in the car. She's like, Oh,

480
00:24:45,960 --> 00:24:49,600
Speaker 4: look at all these other guys who thought ahead and

481
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Speaker 4: made a plan and they actually like their wives or girlfriends.

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Speaker 4: It's just I want to thank my friend Chad, who

483
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Speaker 4: was a listener of the program. I've got a Valentine's

484
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Speaker 4: Day dinner down here because of him. He's a big

485
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Speaker 4: fan of the show. I appreciate him taking care of me.

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Speaker 4: So I am going out on Valentine's Day. But I

487
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Speaker 4: got to tell you, if you didn't get reservations months

488
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Speaker 4: ago at a lot of places, you're basically done for,

489
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Speaker 4: and so telling you there's gonna be a lot of

490
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Speaker 4: guys that are in a tough spot here.

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Speaker 1: You know. And honestly, if you're a big Olive Garden guy, fine,

492
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Speaker 1: but like, don't feel like you have to just do

493
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Speaker 1: whatever and go to the Olive Gardener on Valentine's Day

494
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Speaker 1: because everything else is booked. Tell your wife, tell your husband.

495
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Speaker 1: Whatever we're dealing with here, Hey, why don't we celebrate tomorrow?

496
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Speaker 1: It's not actually anyone's birthday, okay, or rather, you're not

497
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Speaker 1: celebrating someone's birthday, you can move the day and have

498
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Speaker 1: your own beautiful celebration and not pay fifty to one

499
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Speaker 1: hundred percent more for whatever it is that you're doing.

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Speaker 1: Trying to go to the spa. But what do you

501
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Speaker 1: think it's like trying to get a spa appointment on

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Speaker 1: Valentine's Day? Clay, Not that I would know, but it's

503
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Speaker 1: really hard.

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Speaker 3: It's impossible.

505
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Speaker 4: I mean, you basically had to make a paw appointment

506
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Speaker 4: a year ago, which is why I think my youngest

507
00:26:04,440 --> 00:26:10,080
Speaker 4: son is right. Ultimately, all Valentine's Day is designed.

508
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Speaker 3: To do is blow men up. Now there's very little benefit.

509
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Speaker 4: And so anyway, it's Friday the thirteenth, which also may

510
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Speaker 4: be ominously accurately is the eve of Valentine's Day if

511
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Speaker 4: you have not already made your plans, all right, it's

512
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Speaker 4: also ominous for buck. We just heard from the legendary

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Speaker 4: musician Ringo star endorsing my argument that Taylor Swift is

514
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Speaker 4: the modern day Beatle. But some people said, well, what

515
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Speaker 4: do we care about Ringo? He's only a Beatle?

516
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Speaker 3: What could he know?

517
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Speaker 4: How about Gene Simmons, how about Gene Simmons, legendary rock star,

518
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Speaker 4: all whining up behind me cut twenty two.

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Speaker 8: Nothing, And I think it's true for most bands to

520
00:26:53,280 --> 00:26:57,800
Speaker 8: see the lights come on in the eyes of a

521
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Speaker 8: young child who just becomes enthralled, just like like in

522
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Speaker 8: the Exorcist when the demon enters your whole bounty. You live,

523
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Speaker 8: kiss you, breathe, kiss you. It's more than music. And

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Speaker 8: the only analogy I can point to is the Swifties

525
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Speaker 8: of today. Yes, the songs are cool, and she's wonderful,

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Speaker 8: we know her, but it's more than that. It's almost

527
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Speaker 8: the gathering of the tribes. The Beatles had that. It

528
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Speaker 8: was called Beatlemania. We love the Stones, we loved Hendrych

529
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Speaker 8: that didn't exist. They were just popular, really popular. But

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Speaker 8: when there's something else going on, it is a it's

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Speaker 8: almost cultish.

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Speaker 1: A lot of people have cold fogs and music. Fish

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Speaker 1: has a cult following. Dave Matthew's band has a cult following.

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Speaker 1: Give Me the Grateful Dad as a cult following. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: they don't have fifteen year old girls all thinking that

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Speaker 1: Dave Matthews is like the you know, the Queen of

537
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Speaker 1: the Princesses or whatever. But this is you know, first

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Speaker 1: of all, Gene Simmons. Now I'm just gonna start stepping

539
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Speaker 1: in it. But Kiss, is that even really a music act?

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Speaker 1: This is a kind of more of like a you know,

541
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Speaker 1: like musical theaters, like some theatrical thing with the face

542
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Speaker 1: pain and everything. I don't think anyone's like, wow, the

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Speaker 1: music of Kiss really endures. Get out of here.

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Speaker 4: I just think when you consider legendary musicians and they

545
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Speaker 4: line up with me, it just proves the legitimacy of

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Speaker 4: my argument here.

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Speaker 1: No, I think that these are old guys who want

548
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Speaker 1: relevancy today, and so of course they're going to lean

549
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Speaker 1: in on what the big act of the moment is.

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Speaker 1: But the timelessness argument that is being made here, I mean,

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Speaker 1: I'm just that that's really And also the impact on

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Speaker 1: music as a genre, I just I don't see it.

553
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Speaker 1: I don't see it. I'm sorry. I wish I could

554
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Speaker 1: go along on this one. By the way, I don't

555
00:28:44,600 --> 00:28:46,640
Speaker 1: think Taylor Shrift is bad. I just think she's overrated.

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Speaker 4: Well because also our illustrious team of researchers pointed out you.

557
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Speaker 3: Used to be a swift forms.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I like when I was a single guy,

559
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Speaker 1: he's kind of pretty. I thought she was kind of pretty,

560
00:29:01,440 --> 00:29:04,360
Speaker 1: so I was a little, uh, you know, a little bit.

561
00:29:04,640 --> 00:29:07,000
Speaker 1: I love game that we had with this.

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Speaker 4: It took a few days, but then coming out of

563
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Speaker 4: the woodwork, you know, old school buck listeners and they're like,

564
00:29:12,320 --> 00:29:14,880
Speaker 4: wait a minute, this is he's singing a different tune here.

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Speaker 3: Yes, Taylor, I say, why you got to be so mean?

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Speaker 1: Wait? Jay in Bloomfield Hills, Michigan wants to weigh in

567
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Speaker 1: on RINGO Star Jay let it rip.

568
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Speaker 9: Hey, Clay, I thought you were a common sense conservative,

569
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Speaker 9: but clearly you sound like AOCA with this argument. The Beatles,

570
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Speaker 9: I could name seven or eight albums, every single song

571
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Speaker 9: on that album. You asked someone walking down the street

572
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Speaker 9: to say a couple of lines, they'll be able to

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Speaker 9: say a line, Taylor Swift, are you kidding? I? The

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Speaker 9: only song I know is one that you mentioned on

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Speaker 9: the radio, and I couldn't name.

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Speaker 7: One of the lines.

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Speaker 3: To be fair, j how old are you?

578
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Speaker 9: Argument?

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Speaker 4: How old are you? J? Okay, you're fifty seven? Every

580
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Speaker 4: single woman.

581
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Speaker 9: Star RINGO star is let them light them up, Jay,

582
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Speaker 9: Octogenarians who are just trying to pease their host.

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Speaker 1: Get him, Jay, get him Jay ty Jy. I'm with you, Jay, Jay,

584
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Speaker 1: don't let anyone take away your fire.

585
00:30:23,120 --> 00:30:25,560
Speaker 4: My friend, you Jay got so fired up there going

586
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Speaker 4: after Ringo Star. By the way, Bloomfield Hills, Michigan great

587
00:30:28,160 --> 00:30:31,040
Speaker 4: place happens to be the hometown of one Laura Travis,

588
00:30:32,040 --> 00:30:34,680
Speaker 4: just north in Oakland County. She went to school in Bloomfield.

589
00:30:35,200 --> 00:30:37,680
Speaker 4: But let me let me say this, Jay, you're one

590
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Speaker 4: hundred percent wrong. And every every single woman, every young

591
00:30:43,600 --> 00:30:49,840
Speaker 4: girl you go, fifteen to forty five, every single one

592
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Speaker 4: of them can name a Taylor Swift song. There is

593
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Speaker 4: not a fifteen to forty five year old woman girl

594
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Speaker 4: in America that cannot name a Taylor Swift song. It's

595
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Speaker 4: just Jay is fifty seven in male.

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Speaker 3: I get it. This is not his wheelhouse.

597
00:31:03,720 --> 00:31:06,920
Speaker 4: I happened as a forty seven year forty six, forty

598
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Speaker 4: seven year old man to just be able to channel well.

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Speaker 1: But can I point out, though, Clay, you're actually making

600
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Speaker 1: a problem I think for your own argument here, which

601
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Speaker 1: is you're saying all these women, all these women listening

602
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Speaker 1: to Taylor Swift, everybody listened to the Beatles, It wasn't

603
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Speaker 1: a male veron You're you're referring more to beatle Mania

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Speaker 1: and sort of taking that as a The Beatles as

605
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Speaker 1: a musical phenomenon were both global and but both gen.

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Speaker 4: Beetles would have been more popular with women back in

607
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Speaker 4: the day than they were men too, right, probably a

608
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Speaker 4: seventy to thirty fan base in the early days.

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Speaker 1: I don't think. I don't think when you get to

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Speaker 1: like Abbey Road and you get to the White Album,

611
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Speaker 1: I wouldn't say it was necessarily a lot more women

612
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Speaker 1: than men.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, maybe not maybe, I mean I think they're to

614
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Speaker 4: be fair, there are a lot of men in that

615
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Speaker 4: fifteen to forty five year old window, such as Buck

616
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Speaker 4: Sexton himself, who were also fans of Taylor Swift at

617
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Speaker 4: some point during that window.

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Speaker 1: Well, she had it advantage before this Kelsey, this Travis

619
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Speaker 1: Kelcey fellow came along with his big muscles and his

620
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Speaker 1: manly beard.

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Speaker 3: Grant in Minnesota, Grant what you got for us?

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Speaker 10: First of all, I want to apologize for Minnesota.

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Speaker 3: Well, thank you.

624
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Speaker 10: You guys talk about the Beatles, you know, they're fabulous musicians.

625
00:32:23,480 --> 00:32:26,200
Speaker 10: When they broke up, so all four of them went

626
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Speaker 10: their separate ways. Ringo Starr had the most number one

627
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Speaker 10: hits on the charts.

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Speaker 4: He was the most successful of the post Beatles. I

629
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Speaker 4: don't know that to be true. I appreciate the call.

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Speaker 4: That is Grant's argument. We'll look into that. Monty says. Look,

631
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Speaker 4: I said we could get Paul McCartney, We could get

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Speaker 4: Ringo Starr on Monty talkback, g.

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Speaker 2: Clay, the other Beatles.

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Speaker 7: John Lennon died in nineteen eighty and George Harrison died

635
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Speaker 7: in two thousand and one, So I don't think you're

636
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Speaker 7: are going to have any luck getting in a hold

637
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Speaker 7: of them.

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Speaker 3: Paul McCartney and Rino Star are still alive.

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Speaker 4: That's what I'm saying. We got to get one of

640
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Speaker 4: those two guys. By the way, do you know how

641
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Speaker 4: America became by and large aware that John Lennon died?

642
00:33:15,360 --> 00:33:18,960
Speaker 4: Do you know who announced live on television that John

643
00:33:19,080 --> 00:33:22,280
Speaker 4: Lennon had been killed? And when it happened in nineteen

644
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Speaker 4: eighty four, huge swaths of the American population any probably

645
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Speaker 4: not going to know buck any guests about how who

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Speaker 4: delivered the news of John Lennon's death to the largest

647
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Speaker 4: audience of Americans when it occurred.

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Speaker 1: I don't know.

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Speaker 3: Good you were in your thirties. I was not yet born.

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Speaker 3: Good trivia, I was a baby.

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Speaker 4: John Lennon's death announced by Howard Cosell on Monday Night Football.

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Speaker 4: During the course of that Monday night football game, he

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Speaker 4: came on and said, Hey, basically, I have this.

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Speaker 3: Awful news to report to all of you.

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Speaker 4: Howard Cosell, A lot of people wouldn't anticipate that that

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Speaker 4: was the case. Was the guy who broke the news

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Speaker 4: to the largest group of Americans that John Lennon had

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Speaker 4: been killed.

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Speaker 1: That's it's kind of a tough turn from me here.

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Speaker 1: But okay, okay, thanks Clay for that trivia. It's a

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Speaker 1: real bummer.

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Speaker 2: You know, three seconds remaining. John Smith is on the line.

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Speaker 2: I don't care what's on the line, Howard. You want

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Speaker 2: got to say, but we know in the book, yes

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Speaker 2: we have to say it.

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Speaker 7: Remember this is just a football game, no matter who wins.

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Speaker 7: Aw Less an unspeakable tragedy confirmed to us by ABC

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Speaker 7: News in New York City. John Lennon outside of his

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Speaker 7: apartment building on the West side of New York City,

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Speaker 7: the most famous, perhaps of all of the Beatles, shot

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Speaker 7: twice in the back rush the Roosevelt Hospital, dead on arrival.

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Speaker 2: Oh to go back to the game after that newsquash.

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Speaker 1: Do you do you agree that is Is that really

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Speaker 1: an announcement you make during a football game?

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Speaker 3: It's a time.

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Speaker 4: I don't think it's a tough transition to expect an announcer.

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Speaker 1: I mean, it's the pre social media era, So I

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Speaker 1: guess you could say that maybe people were expecting to

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Speaker 1: get news from wherever they were of something of that

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Speaker 1: kind of you know, flash breaking news magnitude. But you

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Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, it's a little bit like remember

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Speaker 1: when they broke.

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Speaker 4: In with OJ duringbe You think what they would do today,

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Speaker 4: and they may not have had the technology to do

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Speaker 4: it in nineteen eighty is if they felt compelled to

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Speaker 4: break in and give that news, they would go to

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Speaker 4: a newscaster. They would say, Hey, we're going to go

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Speaker 4: live to insert location here. I would point out that

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Speaker 4: this came on the heels buck if you remember, I

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Speaker 4: mean the Winter Olympics are going on right now, but

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Speaker 4: nineteen seventy four in Munich, much of that was largely

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Speaker 4: covered by sports people. When the Jewish the Israeli uh

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Speaker 4: Olympic Olympians were taken hostage, people who were there to

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Speaker 4: cover that event were sports people, and suddenly they had

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Speaker 4: to pivot in real time to being on air for

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Speaker 4: massive amounts of hours to cover a truly serious story.

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Speaker 4: I think sports would get exposed far faster today than

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Speaker 4: it did back then, because I think the average newsperson

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Speaker 4: was more intelligent and well versed in larger society than

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Speaker 4: they are today.

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Speaker 1: Well thanks Captain Wampwomp, Happy Friday the thirteenth, everybody. Great

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Speaker 1: way to end the show here with Clay getting some

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Speaker 1: really intense stuff. We got assassinations, we got terrorist attacks,