1 00:00:11,119 --> 00:00:11,960 Speaker 1: Welcome every one. 2 00:00:12,119 --> 00:00:16,040 Speaker 2: It is Sunday, January eleventh, and a news study says, 3 00:00:16,720 --> 00:00:20,560 Speaker 2: the next time you fly on an airplane, do not 4 00:00:20,920 --> 00:00:24,840 Speaker 2: drink the coffee, do not drink the tea, and don't 5 00:00:25,360 --> 00:00:26,960 Speaker 2: wash your hands in. 6 00:00:27,040 --> 00:00:29,600 Speaker 1: The bathroom on your next flight. 7 00:00:30,160 --> 00:00:34,000 Speaker 2: DJ I believe I have done all three of the 8 00:00:34,440 --> 00:00:37,000 Speaker 2: above pretty much every time I get on a flight. 9 00:00:37,360 --> 00:00:39,239 Speaker 3: I just drink alcohol. And I never washed my hands 10 00:00:39,280 --> 00:00:43,080 Speaker 3: in the bathroom anyway, So I'm good. Really, I'm kidding. Obviously, 11 00:00:43,120 --> 00:00:45,640 Speaker 3: I wash my damn hands. But no, I don't drink water. 12 00:00:45,640 --> 00:00:50,440 Speaker 3: I don't drink anything but usually a mimosa and bloody mary. 13 00:00:50,240 --> 00:00:50,680 Speaker 4: When I fly. 14 00:00:50,880 --> 00:00:51,120 Speaker 2: Yeah. 15 00:00:51,200 --> 00:00:53,120 Speaker 1: Wait, you don't usually get tea. I guess I don't 16 00:00:53,120 --> 00:00:53,680 Speaker 1: see you do that. 17 00:00:53,880 --> 00:00:55,880 Speaker 4: No, it's hot. Why would you want to hot liquid 18 00:00:55,920 --> 00:00:56,800 Speaker 4: on an airplane? 19 00:00:57,960 --> 00:01:01,320 Speaker 2: I do like a coffee. But that is about to change. 20 00:01:01,360 --> 00:01:04,679 Speaker 2: The director of this study, they came from the Center 21 00:01:04,840 --> 00:01:07,280 Speaker 2: for Food as Medicine and Longevity. 22 00:01:07,760 --> 00:01:08,880 Speaker 1: This was his quote. 23 00:01:09,240 --> 00:01:14,720 Speaker 2: Nearly all regional airlines need to improve their onboard water safety. 24 00:01:15,440 --> 00:01:18,679 Speaker 1: That is alarming. I never it makes sense. 25 00:01:19,080 --> 00:01:22,520 Speaker 2: We'll get into the meat of it and why it 26 00:01:22,600 --> 00:01:24,480 Speaker 2: is the way it is. But what they found is 27 00:01:24,640 --> 00:01:29,559 Speaker 2: incredibly alarming, but I never considered not washing my hands. 28 00:01:29,600 --> 00:01:34,160 Speaker 2: It says they're on a sign on the mirror, please 29 00:01:34,319 --> 00:01:36,560 Speaker 2: wash your hands before returning to your seat. 30 00:01:36,800 --> 00:01:39,080 Speaker 3: Okay, the sign doesn't need to be there anyway. For 31 00:01:39,160 --> 00:01:41,959 Speaker 3: the first of all, nobody should have to be told 32 00:01:41,959 --> 00:01:43,520 Speaker 3: to wash your damn hands. You should have been told 33 00:01:43,560 --> 00:01:46,560 Speaker 3: this since you were a child, so this shouldn't be there. Next, 34 00:01:46,560 --> 00:01:48,640 Speaker 3: they give you the wipes right as soon as you 35 00:01:48,640 --> 00:01:50,440 Speaker 3: get on the plane. Now they hand you those little 36 00:01:50,440 --> 00:01:52,840 Speaker 3: sanitary wipes and telling you to use your hands. To 37 00:01:52,920 --> 00:01:55,640 Speaker 3: use those in your hands, so there are options. And 38 00:01:55,800 --> 00:01:59,600 Speaker 3: I'm curious if this is a headlineman to scare the 39 00:01:59,640 --> 00:02:01,720 Speaker 3: hell out of all of us or we are in 40 00:02:01,720 --> 00:02:02,360 Speaker 3: real danger. 41 00:02:02,600 --> 00:02:06,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm actually surprised because I thought that soap when 42 00:02:06,840 --> 00:02:09,400 Speaker 2: you obviously, if you just ran your hands under the water, 43 00:02:09,480 --> 00:02:12,320 Speaker 2: I understand maybe you're susceptible to any bacteria that could 44 00:02:12,320 --> 00:02:15,480 Speaker 2: be in the water. But I always believed that if 45 00:02:15,520 --> 00:02:18,760 Speaker 2: I use the soap, which I do, that that gets 46 00:02:18,840 --> 00:02:22,040 Speaker 2: rid of the bacteria. And I thought that using too 47 00:02:22,080 --> 00:02:24,800 Speaker 2: much hand sanitizer gets rid of good bacteria. It dries 48 00:02:24,840 --> 00:02:28,360 Speaker 2: out your hand, so I tend to avoid hand sanitizer. 49 00:02:28,639 --> 00:02:30,440 Speaker 2: So this is a shocking headline to me. 50 00:02:31,200 --> 00:02:34,639 Speaker 3: Uh No, I mean, I guess, I mean it makes 51 00:02:34,680 --> 00:02:36,600 Speaker 3: sense if you doesn't matter what you put on your hand, 52 00:02:36,600 --> 00:02:41,760 Speaker 3: if you're rinsing the soap off with shit water, then 53 00:02:42,160 --> 00:02:43,360 Speaker 3: your hands are going to be dirty. 54 00:02:44,040 --> 00:02:47,560 Speaker 2: Okay, So you just kind of nailed what this study found. 55 00:02:47,600 --> 00:02:52,360 Speaker 2: So researchers they surveyed more than thirty five thousand water 56 00:02:52,440 --> 00:02:57,160 Speaker 2: samples from ten major airlines and eleven regional airlines. 57 00:02:57,200 --> 00:02:59,959 Speaker 1: And they did this over a three year period. 58 00:03:00,240 --> 00:03:03,799 Speaker 2: So this was from October of twenty twenty two until 59 00:03:03,840 --> 00:03:05,400 Speaker 2: September of twenty twenty five. 60 00:03:05,720 --> 00:03:09,279 Speaker 1: That is significant, three years, thirty. 61 00:03:08,960 --> 00:03:12,680 Speaker 2: Five thousand samples. I'm listening to what this survey found. 62 00:03:12,760 --> 00:03:14,520 Speaker 2: That seems pretty comprehensive. 63 00:03:15,600 --> 00:03:17,320 Speaker 4: Okay, And what did they find? 64 00:03:17,480 --> 00:03:17,919 Speaker 1: Okay? 65 00:03:18,040 --> 00:03:21,520 Speaker 2: Well, first off, they found that two point seven percent 66 00:03:21,800 --> 00:03:27,680 Speaker 2: of all the samples tested positive for coliform and so coloform. 67 00:03:27,760 --> 00:03:28,280 Speaker 1: What is that. 68 00:03:28,400 --> 00:03:33,399 Speaker 2: It's a group of bacteria that signals potential contamination by 69 00:03:33,440 --> 00:03:34,760 Speaker 2: disease causing germs. 70 00:03:34,760 --> 00:03:36,040 Speaker 1: So it's a. 71 00:03:36,200 --> 00:03:40,720 Speaker 2: Group of bacteria that bad bacteria, bacteria that makes you sick. 72 00:03:40,800 --> 00:03:45,320 Speaker 2: Bacteria was found in nearly three percent of all samples. 73 00:03:45,640 --> 00:03:47,040 Speaker 1: That's fairly significant. 74 00:03:49,200 --> 00:03:52,200 Speaker 4: Okay, but it found what is this stuff? 75 00:03:52,600 --> 00:03:52,920 Speaker 1: Okay? 76 00:03:53,040 --> 00:03:58,280 Speaker 2: So coliform bacteria. Basically, if that is present in the water, 77 00:03:58,720 --> 00:04:04,600 Speaker 2: that indicates that they're are disease causing organisms, pathogens in 78 00:04:04,720 --> 00:04:09,200 Speaker 2: that water. And so if you wash your hands with 79 00:04:09,360 --> 00:04:13,840 Speaker 2: that water and then say, rub your eyes or somehow 80 00:04:13,840 --> 00:04:15,760 Speaker 2: put your hands in your mouth or somewhere in some 81 00:04:15,920 --> 00:04:20,279 Speaker 2: orifice where that could go into your body, you likely 82 00:04:21,040 --> 00:04:22,880 Speaker 2: and possibly could get pretty sick. 83 00:04:23,000 --> 00:04:25,360 Speaker 4: Wait, likely or possibly those are two different things. 84 00:04:25,560 --> 00:04:26,520 Speaker 1: That's true, that's true. 85 00:04:26,520 --> 00:04:28,400 Speaker 2: It depends on how much is on your hands, It 86 00:04:28,480 --> 00:04:30,840 Speaker 2: depends on what your gut health is. There's a lot 87 00:04:30,880 --> 00:04:32,480 Speaker 2: of things that go into it. But how about this, 88 00:04:32,839 --> 00:04:37,599 Speaker 2: if this lands for you, Of the twenty one airlines surveyed, 89 00:04:38,080 --> 00:04:41,479 Speaker 2: E Coli was found thirty two times. 90 00:04:41,800 --> 00:04:43,440 Speaker 4: So wait, you say it again. 91 00:04:43,480 --> 00:04:46,679 Speaker 2: They said, of the twenty one airline surveyed, E Coli 92 00:04:46,960 --> 00:04:48,120 Speaker 2: was found thirty two times. 93 00:04:48,160 --> 00:04:49,039 Speaker 1: So E Coli. 94 00:04:49,600 --> 00:04:53,200 Speaker 2: That is something that is a pathogen, that is a 95 00:04:53,240 --> 00:04:55,360 Speaker 2: bacteria that should be pretty. 96 00:04:55,040 --> 00:04:56,720 Speaker 1: Familiar to most of us at this point. 97 00:04:56,720 --> 00:04:58,920 Speaker 2: When you hear about cruise ships having to turn around 98 00:04:59,279 --> 00:05:02,400 Speaker 2: because everyone sick with norovirus, that's from E. 99 00:05:02,600 --> 00:05:03,080 Speaker 1: Coli. 100 00:05:03,400 --> 00:05:06,640 Speaker 2: Anytime you have a major ground beefree call where people 101 00:05:06,680 --> 00:05:08,560 Speaker 2: get really sick, violently ill. 102 00:05:08,920 --> 00:05:09,960 Speaker 1: That's E coli. 103 00:05:10,320 --> 00:05:14,040 Speaker 2: So when we talk about coliform, the most obvious thing 104 00:05:14,120 --> 00:05:16,680 Speaker 2: there was E coli, which when you said shit water, 105 00:05:17,440 --> 00:05:18,159 Speaker 2: that's what that is. 106 00:05:18,279 --> 00:05:21,640 Speaker 3: And how much are they are there suggestions that people 107 00:05:21,800 --> 00:05:23,320 Speaker 3: have been getting sick? 108 00:05:23,360 --> 00:05:24,680 Speaker 4: Nobody, I mean, it sounds gross. 109 00:05:24,720 --> 00:05:26,440 Speaker 3: Nobody wants to think this stuff is on your hands 110 00:05:26,480 --> 00:05:28,200 Speaker 3: and you're putting it in your water or you're touching 111 00:05:28,200 --> 00:05:30,400 Speaker 3: your eye and not a die. But I mean, is 112 00:05:30,400 --> 00:05:32,320 Speaker 3: this stuff enough? This is what I was literally about 113 00:05:32,320 --> 00:05:33,920 Speaker 3: to pick up my phone and text your dad, because 114 00:05:33,920 --> 00:05:35,760 Speaker 3: this is why I need to, like, I need a 115 00:05:35,760 --> 00:05:38,360 Speaker 3: little more expertise to understand how much danger, how much 116 00:05:38,360 --> 00:05:40,560 Speaker 3: of a threat this stuff is, because it's scary as 117 00:05:40,600 --> 00:05:41,880 Speaker 3: hell when you see the headline. 118 00:05:41,920 --> 00:05:44,440 Speaker 2: We should get him on about this because there is 119 00:05:44,440 --> 00:05:47,480 Speaker 2: somebody he has traveled his whole life extensively, and. 120 00:05:47,440 --> 00:05:49,840 Speaker 1: He's always given me tips on how not to get sick. 121 00:05:50,279 --> 00:05:52,599 Speaker 2: I've never heard him tell me don't wash your hands 122 00:05:52,640 --> 00:05:54,560 Speaker 2: in the bathroom of an airplane. So that's why I'm 123 00:05:54,560 --> 00:05:57,520 Speaker 2: a little surprised because I hadn't heard this before. 124 00:05:57,760 --> 00:05:58,479 Speaker 1: And here's the deal. 125 00:05:58,600 --> 00:06:00,680 Speaker 2: If you get sick, babe, after you come back from 126 00:06:00,720 --> 00:06:04,080 Speaker 2: a trip, say the next day, you have you're in 127 00:06:04,120 --> 00:06:05,760 Speaker 2: the bathroom longer than you want to be, or you've 128 00:06:05,800 --> 00:06:06,200 Speaker 2: got some. 129 00:06:06,240 --> 00:06:09,040 Speaker 1: Issues, some stomach issues. What's the first thing? You're gonna 130 00:06:09,040 --> 00:06:10,880 Speaker 1: blame something? 131 00:06:10,960 --> 00:06:16,320 Speaker 2: Eight something you ate, And especially if you were traveling somewhere, 132 00:06:16,520 --> 00:06:18,680 Speaker 2: you're gonna be like, oh man, it might have been 133 00:06:18,720 --> 00:06:21,960 Speaker 2: the ice or the ice cream, or that salad I had, 134 00:06:22,040 --> 00:06:23,120 Speaker 2: or something that was uncooked. 135 00:06:23,240 --> 00:06:26,400 Speaker 1: You're going to blame your last meal. I can't imagine. 136 00:06:26,440 --> 00:06:28,760 Speaker 2: And I've never looked back and thought, oh, well, I 137 00:06:28,800 --> 00:06:31,120 Speaker 2: was on a plane, maybe the water got me. 138 00:06:31,600 --> 00:06:32,480 Speaker 1: Never did I think that. 139 00:06:32,839 --> 00:06:35,480 Speaker 4: But is it possible that it did? That's my question. 140 00:06:35,640 --> 00:06:38,360 Speaker 1: Yes, the answer is yes, And so here is. 141 00:06:38,560 --> 00:06:40,560 Speaker 2: And this is kind of interesting because we have our 142 00:06:40,560 --> 00:06:44,480 Speaker 2: feelings about airlines based on our experiences, but they actually 143 00:06:44,640 --> 00:06:51,120 Speaker 2: ranked US airlines based on their water levels, like their 144 00:06:51,400 --> 00:06:54,960 Speaker 2: level of contamination or lack thereof. So the top airlines 145 00:06:55,040 --> 00:07:00,680 Speaker 2: were Delta and Frontier, they got A ratings the low airlines. 146 00:07:00,720 --> 00:07:04,240 Speaker 2: The worst airlines were American Jet Blue and Spirit. And 147 00:07:04,400 --> 00:07:07,560 Speaker 2: I can actually go through and give you the onboard 148 00:07:07,720 --> 00:07:08,560 Speaker 2: water rankings. 149 00:07:08,560 --> 00:07:09,400 Speaker 1: Would you like them? 150 00:07:09,520 --> 00:07:09,800 Speaker 4: Sure? 151 00:07:10,080 --> 00:07:13,800 Speaker 2: This is from again their most recent three year study 152 00:07:14,000 --> 00:07:16,200 Speaker 2: that just wrapped in the fall of twenty twenty five, 153 00:07:16,240 --> 00:07:18,720 Speaker 2: and this is their big rollout about what they found. 154 00:07:19,120 --> 00:07:22,720 Speaker 2: So five is the best, zero is the worst. Okay, 155 00:07:23,200 --> 00:07:27,680 Speaker 2: Delta Airlines got a five. That feels pretty good. They 156 00:07:27,680 --> 00:07:30,200 Speaker 2: got a Grade A. Frontier Airlines got a four point eight, 157 00:07:31,000 --> 00:07:33,320 Speaker 2: Alaska Airlines got a three point eight five. 158 00:07:33,360 --> 00:07:34,240 Speaker 1: They got a Grade B. 159 00:07:35,040 --> 00:07:38,160 Speaker 2: Allegiant air three point sixty five that gave them a B. 160 00:07:39,160 --> 00:07:41,360 Speaker 2: Southwest Airlines got a three point three. 161 00:07:41,400 --> 00:07:42,320 Speaker 1: They're at a C. 162 00:07:43,000 --> 00:07:45,800 Speaker 2: Hawaiian Airlines got a three point one five. That's a 163 00:07:45,800 --> 00:07:50,600 Speaker 2: Grade C. United Airlines two point seven sneaking in a 164 00:07:50,640 --> 00:07:51,040 Speaker 2: Grade C. 165 00:07:52,000 --> 00:07:55,080 Speaker 1: But now we have those who failed Grade d's. 166 00:07:55,280 --> 00:07:58,680 Speaker 2: Spirit Airlines had a two point h five, Jet Blue 167 00:07:58,720 --> 00:08:02,080 Speaker 2: had a one point eight, and American Airlines had a 168 00:08:02,120 --> 00:08:03,600 Speaker 2: one point seventy five. 169 00:08:04,680 --> 00:08:06,440 Speaker 4: How do they come up with those numbers? 170 00:08:06,560 --> 00:08:10,400 Speaker 2: That was based on their water quality, So they talked 171 00:08:10,440 --> 00:08:15,320 Speaker 2: about the presence of coliform, any potential contamination, just the 172 00:08:15,400 --> 00:08:17,600 Speaker 2: quality of the water based on their tests. 173 00:08:18,600 --> 00:08:22,120 Speaker 1: That was the rankings. And they did this again or earlier. 174 00:08:22,480 --> 00:08:24,640 Speaker 2: The last time they came out with rankings was in 175 00:08:24,640 --> 00:08:27,600 Speaker 2: twenty nineteen and delta was at the bottom, so they 176 00:08:27,640 --> 00:08:29,000 Speaker 2: have made improvement since then. 177 00:08:29,080 --> 00:08:31,560 Speaker 1: And airlines do tend to. 178 00:08:31,600 --> 00:08:36,400 Speaker 2: Take this type of study, and especially knowing that it's 179 00:08:36,440 --> 00:08:40,199 Speaker 2: being publicized, and they do tend to make adjustments based 180 00:08:40,240 --> 00:08:43,320 Speaker 2: on it. So they right now, I know none of 181 00:08:43,360 --> 00:08:45,559 Speaker 2: us want to just rely and cross our fingers and 182 00:08:45,600 --> 00:08:49,560 Speaker 2: hope that the airlines do better. They, alongside these results, 183 00:08:49,600 --> 00:08:54,559 Speaker 2: give very clear recommendations for passengers. Their first recommendation passengers 184 00:08:54,800 --> 00:08:56,200 Speaker 2: should be extra cautious. 185 00:08:56,760 --> 00:08:58,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, I'm going to be now. I don't think 186 00:08:58,760 --> 00:08:59,480 Speaker 1: I was before. 187 00:09:00,120 --> 00:09:01,760 Speaker 3: What though, I mean, what are you supposed to just 188 00:09:01,760 --> 00:09:04,120 Speaker 3: not drink? I mean, if they this is boiling hot 189 00:09:04,120 --> 00:09:06,200 Speaker 3: water and coffee, am I supposed to be worried about 190 00:09:06,200 --> 00:09:06,480 Speaker 3: it too? 191 00:09:06,760 --> 00:09:08,920 Speaker 1: And see that's why I thought it was okay. I 192 00:09:09,000 --> 00:09:11,760 Speaker 1: thought because the water is not they are. 193 00:09:11,880 --> 00:09:14,679 Speaker 2: They are suggesting first of all, that passengers should not 194 00:09:14,760 --> 00:09:17,920 Speaker 2: drink any water that isn't sealed in a bottle. It 195 00:09:17,920 --> 00:09:19,960 Speaker 2: feels like you're going onto a third world country. It's 196 00:09:20,000 --> 00:09:21,800 Speaker 2: almost as if you walk onto that plane and you 197 00:09:21,880 --> 00:09:24,200 Speaker 2: have to assume you're in a third world country where 198 00:09:24,240 --> 00:09:27,080 Speaker 2: you can't trust the drinking water, which I've never done 199 00:09:27,280 --> 00:09:30,760 Speaker 2: or operated when I went on to an airplane. Number two, 200 00:09:30,880 --> 00:09:34,880 Speaker 2: it recommends not drinking coffee or tea on board a flight. 201 00:09:35,200 --> 00:09:36,640 Speaker 1: They didn't specify why, but. 202 00:09:36,640 --> 00:09:39,520 Speaker 2: I would I would gather that it's because you can't 203 00:09:39,600 --> 00:09:42,840 Speaker 2: be sure that the water got hot enough. You can't 204 00:09:42,840 --> 00:09:45,720 Speaker 2: be sure that it got to a boiling point that 205 00:09:45,920 --> 00:09:50,719 Speaker 2: actually basically got rid of any potential pathogens. Look, when 206 00:09:50,760 --> 00:09:54,120 Speaker 2: I make coffee in a third world country, I do 207 00:09:54,320 --> 00:09:57,760 Speaker 2: use bottled water. So I guess that would make sense 208 00:09:57,840 --> 00:10:01,160 Speaker 2: because you don't know that that coffee pot or the 209 00:10:01,200 --> 00:10:05,040 Speaker 2: way they made the tea or the coffee actually got 210 00:10:05,080 --> 00:10:07,520 Speaker 2: hot enough, so that I guess that makes sense. 211 00:10:08,559 --> 00:10:10,320 Speaker 4: Okay, I hope the study doesn't have anything in there 212 00:10:10,320 --> 00:10:11,079 Speaker 4: about prosecco. 213 00:10:13,000 --> 00:10:15,160 Speaker 2: Actually, yes, I actually think alcohol is one of the 214 00:10:15,200 --> 00:10:17,400 Speaker 2: things you can trust. Although I do have questions in 215 00:10:17,480 --> 00:10:19,880 Speaker 2: terms of like the glasses, is it better to use 216 00:10:19,920 --> 00:10:22,760 Speaker 2: the plastic stuff versus the glass Where that they have 217 00:10:22,920 --> 00:10:24,760 Speaker 2: where has that been washed? Was that washed in the 218 00:10:24,760 --> 00:10:27,160 Speaker 2: same water. I don't know how they do dishes on 219 00:10:27,280 --> 00:10:30,000 Speaker 2: board a plane. I'm not sure if they run it 220 00:10:30,040 --> 00:10:33,199 Speaker 2: through the dishwater. Now, like I'm thinking, man, maybe we 221 00:10:33,240 --> 00:10:34,840 Speaker 2: should just prefer the plastic cups. 222 00:10:35,280 --> 00:10:37,120 Speaker 3: I hear that, but all this and you and I 223 00:10:37,160 --> 00:10:38,839 Speaker 3: fly more than anybody. 224 00:10:39,120 --> 00:10:40,240 Speaker 4: Yeah, I've never gotten sick. 225 00:10:40,480 --> 00:10:43,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, look, it's they're saying, it's kind of 226 00:10:43,320 --> 00:10:47,040 Speaker 2: like a roulette. You don't know, but you are increasing 227 00:10:47,280 --> 00:10:51,200 Speaker 2: your odds at getting sick by drinking the coffee, by 228 00:10:51,280 --> 00:10:53,439 Speaker 2: drinking the tea, and by washing your hands. 229 00:10:53,800 --> 00:10:57,000 Speaker 1: You are putting yourself at risk. 230 00:10:57,200 --> 00:10:59,440 Speaker 2: It doesn't ensure you're going to get sick, but it 231 00:10:59,480 --> 00:11:00,559 Speaker 2: is risky behavior. 232 00:11:00,640 --> 00:11:03,079 Speaker 3: What does the sign say in the bathroom you said 233 00:11:03,080 --> 00:11:04,079 Speaker 3: about washing your hands. 234 00:11:04,440 --> 00:11:06,880 Speaker 1: Says please wash hands before returning to seat. 235 00:11:06,960 --> 00:11:10,280 Speaker 3: Okay, next plane, I'm on, I'm gonna take a sharpie 236 00:11:10,280 --> 00:11:14,199 Speaker 3: and put not do not wash your hands. 237 00:11:14,400 --> 00:11:17,560 Speaker 2: And now I am actually gonna go get some I'm 238 00:11:17,559 --> 00:11:20,760 Speaker 2: gonna go get some hand sanitizer for our next trip. Because, yes, 239 00:11:20,800 --> 00:11:22,960 Speaker 2: that recommendation. I think that's the biggest one for me. 240 00:11:23,240 --> 00:11:25,720 Speaker 2: I can understand the coffee and tea, I guess, but 241 00:11:25,880 --> 00:11:28,599 Speaker 2: I still have had coffee plenty of times on I 242 00:11:28,760 --> 00:11:31,160 Speaker 2: would say almost every time I'm on a plane, I 243 00:11:31,320 --> 00:11:35,240 Speaker 2: probably have a cup of coffee at least fifty percent 244 00:11:35,240 --> 00:11:38,040 Speaker 2: of the time. Yeah, so you should use hand sanitizer 245 00:11:38,040 --> 00:11:42,160 Speaker 2: with at least sixty percent alcohol instead of washing your 246 00:11:42,200 --> 00:11:44,760 Speaker 2: hands in the plane's bathroom. That is the biggest change 247 00:11:45,280 --> 00:11:49,040 Speaker 2: of behavior for me. But this is actually and they 248 00:11:49,080 --> 00:11:50,880 Speaker 2: talked about the health consequences you asked E. 249 00:11:50,960 --> 00:11:51,360 Speaker 1: Coli. 250 00:11:51,840 --> 00:11:54,520 Speaker 2: They say, basically, you were talking about acute gas stro 251 00:11:54,640 --> 00:11:55,600 Speaker 2: intestinal illness. 252 00:11:55,840 --> 00:11:57,640 Speaker 1: That's that's what you're trying to avoid. 253 00:11:58,679 --> 00:12:03,080 Speaker 3: Wait a minute, I am trying to still understand. There 254 00:12:03,080 --> 00:12:05,160 Speaker 3: were two things you said, E coline something else was 255 00:12:05,160 --> 00:12:05,520 Speaker 3: in the water. 256 00:12:05,760 --> 00:12:06,240 Speaker 4: Well, the. 257 00:12:08,360 --> 00:12:11,520 Speaker 2: Coliform is what they test for, and then when they 258 00:12:11,520 --> 00:12:15,360 Speaker 2: do a deeper dive they can determine E. Coli was 259 00:12:15,679 --> 00:12:20,640 Speaker 2: among the pathogens. So I'm not obviously, I'm not a microbiologist. 260 00:12:20,880 --> 00:12:23,960 Speaker 2: I only know that the coliform is the group of 261 00:12:24,000 --> 00:12:27,400 Speaker 2: bacteria and E. Coli is a part of that group. 262 00:12:27,760 --> 00:12:28,439 Speaker 4: Okay, so. 263 00:12:29,880 --> 00:12:32,760 Speaker 3: What has what are they required to do? I assume 264 00:12:32,800 --> 00:12:34,600 Speaker 3: there's somebody who keeps an eye on this stuff and 265 00:12:34,600 --> 00:12:37,440 Speaker 3: make sure the airlines are not serving shit water. 266 00:12:37,640 --> 00:12:42,360 Speaker 2: Yes, so that is also noted in this study saying that. 267 00:12:42,760 --> 00:12:43,720 Speaker 1: Think about restaurants. 268 00:12:44,120 --> 00:12:47,320 Speaker 2: You get graded right, you'll see there what they're great 269 00:12:47,400 --> 00:12:49,040 Speaker 2: is do they get a D do they get an A? 270 00:12:49,160 --> 00:12:51,000 Speaker 1: And it determines whether or not I want to eat 271 00:12:51,000 --> 00:12:51,800 Speaker 1: at that restaurant. 272 00:12:52,160 --> 00:12:55,040 Speaker 2: So they say, obviously there's tons of oversight when it 273 00:12:55,080 --> 00:12:58,559 Speaker 2: comes to anything you're purchasing in a store or anything 274 00:12:58,600 --> 00:12:59,079 Speaker 2: you go to. 275 00:12:59,040 --> 00:13:00,960 Speaker 1: A restaurant to consume. 276 00:13:01,400 --> 00:13:04,679 Speaker 2: But they say, the Environmental Protection Agency, that is the 277 00:13:04,679 --> 00:13:09,560 Speaker 2: federal agency responsible for ensuring safe aircraft drinking water, almost 278 00:13:09,600 --> 00:13:14,720 Speaker 2: has never levied any kind of penalty on an airline 279 00:13:14,800 --> 00:13:19,080 Speaker 2: for not having potable drinking water, and so they say 280 00:13:19,080 --> 00:13:21,440 Speaker 2: there's almost no oversight, and that's. 281 00:13:21,240 --> 00:13:21,960 Speaker 1: Part of the issue. 282 00:13:22,320 --> 00:13:25,920 Speaker 4: There is oversight, but they don't end up enforcing. 283 00:13:25,600 --> 00:13:26,440 Speaker 1: Correct the rules. 284 00:13:26,880 --> 00:13:30,480 Speaker 2: The study actually awarded a shame on You award as 285 00:13:30,520 --> 00:13:32,200 Speaker 2: a part of their press release, and the shame on 286 00:13:32,280 --> 00:13:35,960 Speaker 2: You award went to the EPA for their poor response, 287 00:13:36,520 --> 00:13:39,280 Speaker 2: and they said some of these airlines were really crappy 288 00:13:39,400 --> 00:13:43,240 Speaker 2: in cooperating with them answering questions they had based on 289 00:13:43,360 --> 00:13:46,439 Speaker 2: this study. So when we come back, we're going to 290 00:13:46,480 --> 00:13:50,480 Speaker 2: talk about what some of the official airline response was 291 00:13:50,880 --> 00:13:53,920 Speaker 2: to the study findings, especially American airlines. They had a 292 00:13:53,920 --> 00:13:56,920 Speaker 2: lot to say, and understandably so because they were given 293 00:13:56,920 --> 00:13:59,880 Speaker 2: that D rating. And we're also going to talk about 294 00:14:00,760 --> 00:14:04,920 Speaker 2: just consider this, consider how your water gets to your 295 00:14:04,960 --> 00:14:09,120 Speaker 2: aircraft when I read that, a lot of what this 296 00:14:09,160 --> 00:14:11,640 Speaker 2: study found makes a whole lot of sense. 297 00:14:12,720 --> 00:14:19,960 Speaker 4: And and and. 298 00:14:19,520 --> 00:14:22,960 Speaker 1: And welcome back everyone. 299 00:14:23,040 --> 00:14:28,080 Speaker 2: We continue to talk about this disturbing study. And I 300 00:14:28,120 --> 00:14:31,120 Speaker 2: say disturbing because the results are disturbing, but perhaps it's 301 00:14:31,120 --> 00:14:35,640 Speaker 2: empowering because we're getting actual information about a three year 302 00:14:35,800 --> 00:14:38,520 Speaker 2: study that was done from the Center for Food as 303 00:14:38,600 --> 00:14:41,440 Speaker 2: Medicine and Longevity that took a look at thirty five 304 00:14:41,480 --> 00:14:45,160 Speaker 2: thousand water samples from the major airlines here in the 305 00:14:45,280 --> 00:14:49,480 Speaker 2: United States and found that just about every airline needs 306 00:14:49,520 --> 00:14:55,200 Speaker 2: to improve their onboard water supply, some more than others. 307 00:14:55,360 --> 00:14:58,160 Speaker 2: And if you consider this, this is how they describe 308 00:14:58,280 --> 00:15:01,640 Speaker 2: I mean, did you even have you even thought about 309 00:15:01,680 --> 00:15:07,120 Speaker 2: how an airline gets their water into the plane on 310 00:15:07,120 --> 00:15:07,800 Speaker 2: board the plane? 311 00:15:07,840 --> 00:15:09,720 Speaker 1: Like, how does that happen? 312 00:15:10,600 --> 00:15:11,760 Speaker 4: No, I don't think about that. 313 00:15:12,280 --> 00:15:15,040 Speaker 2: I'd never considered it. So they actually said this, Think 314 00:15:15,040 --> 00:15:18,920 Speaker 2: about this. Your aircraft flies to numerous destinations, and it 315 00:15:19,120 --> 00:15:23,440 Speaker 2: pomps potentially like drinking water into the tanks that it 316 00:15:23,480 --> 00:15:28,640 Speaker 2: has in the airplane from various sources domestic, international, And 317 00:15:28,720 --> 00:15:32,120 Speaker 2: so yes, you have to hope that they're taking water 318 00:15:32,120 --> 00:15:35,160 Speaker 2: from reliable sources, which let's assume they are, but then 319 00:15:35,200 --> 00:15:37,960 Speaker 2: you have to rely on this safety and the cleanliness 320 00:15:37,960 --> 00:15:41,320 Speaker 2: of the equipment used to transport that water, Like there's 321 00:15:41,480 --> 00:15:45,280 Speaker 2: water cabinets, trucks, carts, hoses, so all of these things 322 00:15:45,320 --> 00:15:47,320 Speaker 2: that the water has to go through to get on 323 00:15:47,360 --> 00:15:51,440 Speaker 2: board your plane. You can see the potential risk for contamination. 324 00:15:51,520 --> 00:15:53,720 Speaker 2: And they also point out unlike the water system you 325 00:15:53,720 --> 00:15:56,280 Speaker 2: have in your house or your apartment or wherever, where 326 00:15:56,280 --> 00:16:00,360 Speaker 2: you get flow and regular monitoring, they point now that 327 00:16:00,880 --> 00:16:05,280 Speaker 2: water on airplanes oftentimes has the long periods of stagnation 328 00:16:05,520 --> 00:16:11,840 Speaker 2: where it just sits. There's big temperature variations, there's mechanical 329 00:16:11,840 --> 00:16:14,480 Speaker 2: stress from air, so there's all sorts of reasons. 330 00:16:14,160 --> 00:16:15,240 Speaker 1: Why that water. 331 00:16:15,880 --> 00:16:18,680 Speaker 2: You can't compare it to water that you get at 332 00:16:18,680 --> 00:16:19,520 Speaker 2: home or even at a. 333 00:16:19,520 --> 00:16:25,080 Speaker 3: Restaurant sitting water. All I see is mosquitoes, malaria. When 334 00:16:25,120 --> 00:16:27,720 Speaker 3: I hear sitting water, standing water, that's the first thing 335 00:16:27,760 --> 00:16:29,200 Speaker 3: comes to my mind. But I know that's not what 336 00:16:29,200 --> 00:16:29,760 Speaker 3: you're talking about. 337 00:16:29,800 --> 00:16:32,000 Speaker 1: Well, you don't want stagnant water. 338 00:16:33,400 --> 00:16:36,680 Speaker 2: As the way the water you're drinking is described right 339 00:16:36,720 --> 00:16:40,080 Speaker 2: before you get on the plane. Stagnant water doesn't sound healthy, 340 00:16:40,240 --> 00:16:43,800 Speaker 2: doesn't sound good. So, yes, we did get some responses 341 00:16:44,200 --> 00:16:49,360 Speaker 2: from American Airlines. Would you like to hear so American 342 00:16:49,400 --> 00:16:53,400 Speaker 2: Airlines that American's potable water program is fully in compliance 343 00:16:53,680 --> 00:16:57,640 Speaker 2: with the Environmental Protection Agencies Aircraft Drinking Water Rule. A 344 00:16:57,760 --> 00:17:01,400 Speaker 2: recent EPA audit showed there were no significant findings with 345 00:17:01,440 --> 00:17:05,399 Speaker 2: our program and we have not received any violations for 346 00:17:05,560 --> 00:17:08,080 Speaker 2: any potable water cabinets or trucks. 347 00:17:07,760 --> 00:17:09,520 Speaker 1: That we use. Does that make you feel better? 348 00:17:09,920 --> 00:17:16,160 Speaker 4: Yes? I trust Airlines and everything they say feel better. 349 00:17:16,280 --> 00:17:18,840 Speaker 3: No, everything you said, I'm not going to change a 350 00:17:18,920 --> 00:17:22,560 Speaker 3: thing I am doing. I'm going to continue to wash 351 00:17:22,600 --> 00:17:24,760 Speaker 3: my hands. I cannot walk out of the bathroom without 352 00:17:24,920 --> 00:17:25,639 Speaker 3: washing my hands. 353 00:17:26,640 --> 00:17:30,679 Speaker 2: But if we get some some I don't know, hand sanitizer, 354 00:17:31,000 --> 00:17:34,159 Speaker 2: will I will add that after I wash my hands. 355 00:17:34,240 --> 00:17:36,800 Speaker 3: I'm I'm just I've never been a hand sanitizer guy. 356 00:17:36,800 --> 00:17:39,000 Speaker 3: I just soap and water. I just some about feeling 357 00:17:39,040 --> 00:17:39,560 Speaker 3: sopen water. 358 00:17:39,640 --> 00:17:42,760 Speaker 2: Huhuh, All right, okay, so it did say They added 359 00:17:42,760 --> 00:17:45,560 Speaker 2: that they are closely reviewing the study to determine any 360 00:17:45,600 --> 00:17:48,040 Speaker 2: potential changes that would further enhance the safety and well 361 00:17:48,040 --> 00:17:50,879 Speaker 2: being of our customers and our team. I do appreciate 362 00:17:50,920 --> 00:17:53,320 Speaker 2: that that. Actually, that made me feel the best out 363 00:17:53,359 --> 00:17:55,840 Speaker 2: of anything. They said that they will take a look 364 00:17:55,880 --> 00:17:58,239 Speaker 2: at the study and they will look to see if 365 00:17:58,240 --> 00:18:00,919 Speaker 2: they can do anything differently. Jet Blue just said it 366 00:18:00,960 --> 00:18:03,520 Speaker 2: follows the process outlined by the e p A, FDA 367 00:18:03,720 --> 00:18:06,639 Speaker 2: and the FAA to ensure safe water, and it says 368 00:18:07,119 --> 00:18:09,640 Speaker 2: it added, Hey, by the way, we also serve bottled 369 00:18:09,640 --> 00:18:12,280 Speaker 2: water on our flights, so you always have that choice. 370 00:18:12,800 --> 00:18:15,119 Speaker 4: Is there any more to the Jet Blue statement? That's it? 371 00:18:15,280 --> 00:18:17,520 Speaker 3: I really hope there is, because that does make you 372 00:18:17,520 --> 00:18:20,359 Speaker 3: want to fly on that airline. So sorry Jet Blue, 373 00:18:20,359 --> 00:18:21,040 Speaker 3: but that's no good. 374 00:18:21,400 --> 00:18:23,119 Speaker 1: So it's interesting you say that. 375 00:18:23,359 --> 00:18:27,400 Speaker 2: So they this study actually kind of called out some 376 00:18:27,560 --> 00:18:33,160 Speaker 2: of the airlines specifically, they said very weak responses from 377 00:18:33,200 --> 00:18:35,560 Speaker 2: American United and Jet Blue. They said they did not 378 00:18:36,359 --> 00:18:40,720 Speaker 2: adequately address their questions, and they said those three airlines 379 00:18:40,760 --> 00:18:43,760 Speaker 2: had large numbers of violations during the study period and 380 00:18:43,840 --> 00:18:47,720 Speaker 2: they were not They just called the responses weak, very 381 00:18:48,080 --> 00:18:51,800 Speaker 2: weak responses that didn't adequately address our questions. 382 00:18:51,800 --> 00:18:53,840 Speaker 4: So can you read it again, though? Can you read 383 00:18:53,880 --> 00:18:55,240 Speaker 4: their statement again? Oh? 384 00:18:55,359 --> 00:18:57,159 Speaker 2: Jet Blue statement? Yes, I will get it to you 385 00:18:57,359 --> 00:19:00,879 Speaker 2: exactly word for word. It says, we follow the processes 386 00:19:00,920 --> 00:19:05,200 Speaker 2: outlined by the EPA, FDA, and the Federal Aviation Administration 387 00:19:05,280 --> 00:19:08,640 Speaker 2: to ensure safe water, and we also serve bottled water 388 00:19:08,680 --> 00:19:10,080 Speaker 2: on our flights. 389 00:19:10,600 --> 00:19:14,880 Speaker 4: BO that's no good. They essentially put it off. 390 00:19:15,280 --> 00:19:17,159 Speaker 3: They they didn't seem to be even open to the 391 00:19:17,160 --> 00:19:19,320 Speaker 3: possibility that we can do something better. That was the 392 00:19:19,359 --> 00:19:22,160 Speaker 3: problem with that statement, to say, hey, we're doing. 393 00:19:21,920 --> 00:19:24,200 Speaker 4: What they told us to do. So if it's we got. 394 00:19:24,000 --> 00:19:27,520 Speaker 3: Shit water man, they told us we pass and everything, 395 00:19:27,600 --> 00:19:30,520 Speaker 3: so I don't talk to And then to throw in 396 00:19:30,560 --> 00:19:33,760 Speaker 3: there that you have an alternative, which is bottled water, 397 00:19:33,920 --> 00:19:37,639 Speaker 3: is suggesting to me that maybe the other stuff is 398 00:19:37,680 --> 00:19:40,000 Speaker 3: no good. Don't come on Jet Blue. We try, we 399 00:19:40,119 --> 00:19:42,760 Speaker 3: try with y'all Jet Blue. That's no good. 400 00:19:42,840 --> 00:19:45,719 Speaker 2: The bottled water thing was a little concerning to me, like, ooh, 401 00:19:45,800 --> 00:19:46,880 Speaker 2: you need to put that out there. 402 00:19:47,040 --> 00:19:49,119 Speaker 1: Hey, by the way, we also have bottled water. If 403 00:19:49,160 --> 00:19:51,560 Speaker 1: you're concerned about like that. 404 00:19:52,280 --> 00:19:55,960 Speaker 2: All right, Well I can say that I do think that. 405 00:19:56,040 --> 00:19:57,920 Speaker 2: I The thing I'm going to change is I'm not 406 00:19:58,040 --> 00:19:58,879 Speaker 2: going to order coffee. 407 00:19:58,920 --> 00:20:01,600 Speaker 1: I'm going to bring it on board, and I am 408 00:20:01,640 --> 00:20:05,240 Speaker 1: going to travel with hand sanitizer, which is something I 409 00:20:05,240 --> 00:20:06,199 Speaker 1: have not done before. 410 00:20:06,280 --> 00:20:09,399 Speaker 3: But you know, I mean, some people swear by it. 411 00:20:09,480 --> 00:20:11,760 Speaker 3: You see the bottles hanging off their backpacks and their 412 00:20:11,840 --> 00:20:13,840 Speaker 3: luggage when the yeah you're doing through airport, Yes, you 413 00:20:13,840 --> 00:20:16,399 Speaker 3: should have clean hands, and more than so than that, 414 00:20:16,440 --> 00:20:18,560 Speaker 3: what I've learned is just don't stop touching your hand, 415 00:20:18,600 --> 00:20:20,840 Speaker 3: stop touching your face, Stop touching your mouth and your 416 00:20:20,840 --> 00:20:22,600 Speaker 3: nose and your eyes. That's how all that stuff is 417 00:20:22,640 --> 00:20:25,440 Speaker 3: getting in. And if your hands are nasty, I didn't 418 00:20:25,520 --> 00:20:28,280 Speaker 3: learn that trick. But no, it's how are you not 419 00:20:28,280 --> 00:20:31,159 Speaker 3: gonna wash your hands you leave the bathroom. I just 420 00:20:31,200 --> 00:20:33,240 Speaker 3: think that's a tough one, Like, what are you supposed 421 00:20:33,240 --> 00:20:35,080 Speaker 3: to do? Oh well, we're flying today Jet Blue. Let's 422 00:20:35,080 --> 00:20:39,800 Speaker 3: stop and get some sanitizam because you know what's gonna 423 00:20:39,800 --> 00:20:42,080 Speaker 3: be like in the bathroom and you're by the way 424 00:20:42,160 --> 00:20:44,880 Speaker 3: your your dad says, first of all, if the water 425 00:20:45,000 --> 00:20:48,280 Speaker 3: is boiled, you're gonna be fine. Now does it get 426 00:20:48,320 --> 00:20:48,840 Speaker 3: to boiling? 427 00:20:48,880 --> 00:20:49,119 Speaker 4: Does it? 428 00:20:49,200 --> 00:20:50,919 Speaker 3: How much steam do I need to see coming out 429 00:20:50,960 --> 00:20:52,360 Speaker 3: of my cup before I understand? 430 00:20:52,560 --> 00:20:53,040 Speaker 4: I don't know. 431 00:20:53,480 --> 00:20:55,399 Speaker 3: If I ask the flight attendant, did you get this 432 00:20:55,520 --> 00:20:56,600 Speaker 3: to boiling before? 433 00:20:56,760 --> 00:20:59,520 Speaker 4: I don't know. But you're supposed to be okay. His 434 00:20:59,720 --> 00:21:02,800 Speaker 4: other he's hilarious. 435 00:21:02,960 --> 00:21:04,239 Speaker 1: Oh, my dad's texting you right now. 436 00:21:04,280 --> 00:21:06,800 Speaker 4: Oh, Yeah, I've been texting you dad the whole episode. 437 00:21:07,560 --> 00:21:09,560 Speaker 3: He said, the thing you need to be worried about 438 00:21:09,560 --> 00:21:12,920 Speaker 3: in the bathroom is touching everything else. So don't touch 439 00:21:13,000 --> 00:21:16,440 Speaker 3: anything in the bathroom. It's disgusting. Such a good point, 440 00:21:16,560 --> 00:21:20,479 Speaker 3: all of that stuff. So yes, the water they fine, 441 00:21:20,720 --> 00:21:22,520 Speaker 3: We hear it, budd He said, You've got a lot 442 00:21:22,560 --> 00:21:23,640 Speaker 3: to worry about that bathroom. 443 00:21:24,200 --> 00:21:26,480 Speaker 2: You know when you see people walking like they literally 444 00:21:26,520 --> 00:21:29,000 Speaker 2: have lysol wipes and they're wiping down their seat and 445 00:21:29,000 --> 00:21:32,480 Speaker 2: they're wiping down their tray and they're what Honestly, they probably. 446 00:21:32,200 --> 00:21:33,160 Speaker 1: Don't get stick that often. 447 00:21:35,200 --> 00:21:35,560 Speaker 4: You know what. 448 00:21:35,640 --> 00:21:38,199 Speaker 3: I have a I have a line here that's going 449 00:21:38,240 --> 00:21:39,960 Speaker 3: to bring this whole thing home, But I don't have 450 00:21:40,000 --> 00:21:42,040 Speaker 3: your dad's permission to use it, so I can't. 451 00:21:42,040 --> 00:21:44,440 Speaker 4: That's a hell ofase, ain't it. It's good I think 452 00:21:44,480 --> 00:21:45,720 Speaker 4: you can use it. 453 00:21:45,800 --> 00:21:48,640 Speaker 1: Throwing any particular airline under the bus. 454 00:21:48,640 --> 00:21:54,640 Speaker 3: He's making a suggestion here, and it's a good point, 455 00:21:55,000 --> 00:21:58,159 Speaker 3: he's saying. He his suggestion is And like I was 456 00:21:58,200 --> 00:21:59,760 Speaker 3: saying to you as we were doing this, I said, 457 00:22:00,119 --> 00:22:01,960 Speaker 3: these headlines meant to just scare the hell out of me? 458 00:22:02,200 --> 00:22:04,520 Speaker 3: Or do I have something to worry about? And he's 459 00:22:04,560 --> 00:22:06,000 Speaker 3: just I sent him an article and send him a 460 00:22:06,040 --> 00:22:08,480 Speaker 3: couple of headlines, and he said he is used to 461 00:22:08,560 --> 00:22:15,920 Speaker 3: seeing a scare mongering go on by some organizations that 462 00:22:16,160 --> 00:22:17,760 Speaker 3: use these to attract funding. 463 00:22:19,560 --> 00:22:21,520 Speaker 1: Wow, it should be considered. 464 00:22:21,640 --> 00:22:23,600 Speaker 3: It should be considered. Now, all of this might be 465 00:22:23,640 --> 00:22:26,720 Speaker 3: one hundred percent true. I'm just saying a microbiologist didn't 466 00:22:27,359 --> 00:22:29,320 Speaker 3: freak out at seeing that. 467 00:22:29,440 --> 00:22:32,800 Speaker 2: And that's an important perspective that I always because I 468 00:22:33,240 --> 00:22:36,640 Speaker 2: just said, my dad has never warned me don't wash 469 00:22:36,640 --> 00:22:39,440 Speaker 2: your hands in airplane water. 470 00:22:39,400 --> 00:22:41,040 Speaker 4: And this dude warns about everything, and he. 471 00:22:40,960 --> 00:22:42,800 Speaker 1: Does warn me about a lot of things that I 472 00:22:42,800 --> 00:22:43,399 Speaker 1: hadn't considered. 473 00:22:43,480 --> 00:22:46,439 Speaker 3: And he travels like crazy. He knows everything to do 474 00:22:46,480 --> 00:22:48,520 Speaker 3: and not to do when you travel. But it's just 475 00:22:48,600 --> 00:22:50,560 Speaker 3: interesting to hear because I see it like what is 476 00:22:51,359 --> 00:22:53,840 Speaker 3: and all of this we don't have any reason to 477 00:22:53,920 --> 00:22:57,160 Speaker 3: doubt and it's gross and you see it. But oftentimes, 478 00:22:57,200 --> 00:22:59,760 Speaker 3: what is our responsibility as the media sometimes and what 479 00:22:59,800 --> 00:23:02,760 Speaker 3: we do. You've seen how some of these headlines were written. 480 00:23:02,880 --> 00:23:06,040 Speaker 2: Absolutely about it, absolutely, But I think that's a good 481 00:23:06,040 --> 00:23:08,280 Speaker 2: way to end it with that perspective that we always 482 00:23:08,320 --> 00:23:11,680 Speaker 2: have to consider the source and consider if there are 483 00:23:11,720 --> 00:23:15,719 Speaker 2: any advantages to saying things more dramatically than they actually are. 484 00:23:15,840 --> 00:23:19,119 Speaker 2: It's something to consider when you read any article and 485 00:23:19,200 --> 00:23:20,080 Speaker 2: read any study. 486 00:23:20,200 --> 00:23:23,400 Speaker 3: But it's all true everything. I mean, nobody's doubting what 487 00:23:23,440 --> 00:23:26,120 Speaker 3: they're saying. I mean, it's not peer reviewed. If you will, 488 00:23:26,119 --> 00:23:28,360 Speaker 3: all know how that met it. They took tests, this 489 00:23:28,400 --> 00:23:30,440 Speaker 3: is what they found, and at least a couple of 490 00:23:30,440 --> 00:23:34,399 Speaker 3: airlines seem to say, hey, we're listening and we will 491 00:23:34,440 --> 00:23:36,480 Speaker 3: do better and we'll want to take a look at this, 492 00:23:36,840 --> 00:23:42,840 Speaker 3: which I appreciate. The airlines not named jed Blue that 493 00:23:42,920 --> 00:23:46,520 Speaker 3: and see that actually lends itself to credibility to the study. 494 00:23:47,080 --> 00:23:49,119 Speaker 3: They could have just said, these folks don't know what 495 00:23:49,160 --> 00:23:51,160 Speaker 3: they talk about, and they say, well, we got. 496 00:23:51,080 --> 00:23:53,120 Speaker 4: Some bottle water cool. 497 00:23:55,040 --> 00:23:57,520 Speaker 2: Oh man, we do fly Jet Blue quite a bit, 498 00:23:57,640 --> 00:24:01,800 Speaker 2: so we shall see and maybe just well again, I'm 499 00:24:01,840 --> 00:24:02,800 Speaker 2: going to get some hand Sanital. 500 00:24:02,880 --> 00:24:06,280 Speaker 4: We shouldn't say that we don't buy choice. No, not 501 00:24:06,359 --> 00:24:07,200 Speaker 4: knocking Jet Blue. 502 00:24:07,200 --> 00:24:10,520 Speaker 3: We've been very open about Delta being our favorite airline. 503 00:24:11,520 --> 00:24:12,240 Speaker 4: We're from Atlanta. 504 00:24:12,320 --> 00:24:14,560 Speaker 3: We got flying out of their fine, but we have 505 00:24:14,640 --> 00:24:16,959 Speaker 3: been on Jet Blue a lot lately because we had 506 00:24:17,000 --> 00:24:18,879 Speaker 3: because of where we had to go. Yes, and they 507 00:24:18,880 --> 00:24:22,240 Speaker 3: were the one that flew direct there. I don't know, 508 00:24:22,320 --> 00:24:24,240 Speaker 3: I don't know how much I love mint. 509 00:24:25,119 --> 00:24:25,680 Speaker 1: Mint's great. 510 00:24:25,760 --> 00:24:29,080 Speaker 3: I love laying down and like I'll have a little 511 00:24:29,119 --> 00:24:32,120 Speaker 3: apartment on the very nice Fine, it's very great. Well, 512 00:24:32,160 --> 00:24:34,680 Speaker 3: who knew I needed to lay down because I'm getting 513 00:24:34,640 --> 00:24:36,480 Speaker 3: sicky from the water to. 514 00:24:36,400 --> 00:24:39,159 Speaker 1: Avoid the cramping that is sure to follow. 515 00:24:39,240 --> 00:24:42,600 Speaker 2: No, no, well, anyway, we wanted to jump on and 516 00:24:42,760 --> 00:24:44,200 Speaker 2: let you know about this study. 517 00:24:44,680 --> 00:24:46,880 Speaker 1: Take with it, take it as. 518 00:24:46,680 --> 00:24:49,360 Speaker 2: You see it, and if you want to change behavior 519 00:24:49,400 --> 00:24:52,160 Speaker 2: grade if not, information is power. You can make better 520 00:24:52,240 --> 00:24:56,240 Speaker 2: choices perhaps and maybe even just make better decisions where 521 00:24:56,240 --> 00:24:59,200 Speaker 2: you feel more comfortable about making sure you don't get 522 00:24:59,240 --> 00:25:02,240 Speaker 2: sick the next time you get on an airplane. And 523 00:25:02,280 --> 00:25:04,160 Speaker 2: with that, everyone, thank you for listening to us. I'm 524 00:25:04,160 --> 00:25:05,560 Speaker 2: Ami Robot alongside TJ. 525 00:25:05,640 --> 00:25:05,920 Speaker 4: Holmes. 526 00:25:05,960 --> 00:25:06,880 Speaker 1: We will talk to you soon.