1 00:00:03,640 --> 00:00:07,000 Speaker 1: Please. He's the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson 2 00:00:07,400 --> 00:00:27,680 Speaker 1: on your home of the Black and Gold Steelers Nation Radio. Yeah, 3 00:00:30,480 --> 00:00:32,800 Speaker 1: welcome back to the Drive. I'm Dale Lolly here with 4 00:00:32,880 --> 00:00:37,800 Speaker 1: Matt Williamson and Matt. Uh. Busy couple of days here 5 00:00:37,800 --> 00:00:39,839 Speaker 1: in the NFL. A lots happening in the In the 6 00:00:39,920 --> 00:00:43,480 Speaker 1: last couple of days, including today. Uh, the NFL set 7 00:00:43,479 --> 00:00:45,920 Speaker 1: the salary cap at a hundred eighty two point five million. 8 00:00:46,000 --> 00:00:48,080 Speaker 1: That's not quite as high as what we thought it 9 00:00:48,080 --> 00:00:51,600 Speaker 1: would be, but right in around that three million number 10 00:00:51,680 --> 00:00:55,120 Speaker 1: that the teams have been working off of the rough number. 11 00:00:55,320 --> 00:00:59,440 Speaker 1: So that's down fifteen point seven million from uh, so 12 00:00:59,560 --> 00:01:01,720 Speaker 1: obvious slee A lot of teams have some work to 13 00:01:01,800 --> 00:01:05,080 Speaker 1: do to to get under the cap. Yeah, and big 14 00:01:05,120 --> 00:01:07,800 Speaker 1: picture thinking considering where I mean a year ago we 15 00:01:07,840 --> 00:01:10,400 Speaker 1: were sitting at the combine and almost to the date, 16 00:01:11,000 --> 00:01:14,040 Speaker 1: and over the course of the year, the worst thing 17 00:01:14,080 --> 00:01:16,880 Speaker 1: that happens is we lose fifteen million off a salary cap. 18 00:01:17,040 --> 00:01:18,600 Speaker 1: So be it, you know, I mean, it's not that 19 00:01:18,680 --> 00:01:21,600 Speaker 1: big a deal. But I'm a nerd with these things, 20 00:01:21,600 --> 00:01:23,280 Speaker 1: and you and I have talked about a lot. I'm 21 00:01:23,280 --> 00:01:25,880 Speaker 1: a little disappointed. I was kind of thinking it could 22 00:01:25,880 --> 00:01:30,800 Speaker 1: be one nine or so because the league is about 23 00:01:30,880 --> 00:01:34,480 Speaker 1: to just get flushed with money, right, and and that's 24 00:01:34,680 --> 00:01:38,920 Speaker 1: you know, so it's gonna be as a step back year, 25 00:01:39,080 --> 00:01:41,920 Speaker 1: you know. I mean, I think we're gonna have you know, 26 00:01:42,040 --> 00:01:44,280 Speaker 1: everyone's getting vaccinated, and I think we're gonna people in 27 00:01:44,319 --> 00:01:46,440 Speaker 1: the stands or you know, we're getting all this TV money. 28 00:01:46,520 --> 00:01:49,240 Speaker 1: There's Betty money still a limited lingering out. There's guys 29 00:01:49,280 --> 00:01:54,520 Speaker 1: like Amazon, you know, are getting involved. So the league 30 00:01:54,640 --> 00:01:58,000 Speaker 1: is not poor. So I'm a little disappointed, but it's 31 00:01:58,040 --> 00:01:59,920 Speaker 1: better than we thought two months ago when it was 32 00:02:00,000 --> 00:02:02,600 Speaker 1: thinking it was right. I mean, so he has seven 33 00:02:02,600 --> 00:02:06,080 Speaker 1: and a half million more. Uh. We saw the franchise tags. 34 00:02:06,120 --> 00:02:08,360 Speaker 1: There were nine guys tag just day, which is down 35 00:02:08,400 --> 00:02:11,080 Speaker 1: from fourteen a year before. There wasn't a ton of 36 00:02:11,120 --> 00:02:13,920 Speaker 1: obvious candidates though either right, and I think a lot 37 00:02:14,000 --> 00:02:19,040 Speaker 1: of teams were kind of iffy on that, um you know, um, 38 00:02:19,600 --> 00:02:21,440 Speaker 1: based on what the cap was gonna be kind of 39 00:02:21,480 --> 00:02:25,720 Speaker 1: surprised to see the Saints tag Williams or safety. Where 40 00:02:25,720 --> 00:02:27,239 Speaker 1: are they coming up with the money they had to cut? 41 00:02:27,360 --> 00:02:30,440 Speaker 1: They cut two guys today, Kauan Alexander and Emmanuel Sanders. Yeah, 42 00:02:30,480 --> 00:02:32,800 Speaker 1: but they were gonna cut them. Yeah. I mean, like 43 00:02:32,800 --> 00:02:35,480 Speaker 1: those guys get cut if if the cap, if they 44 00:02:35,520 --> 00:02:37,679 Speaker 1: were if the Saints were at the cap, they cut 45 00:02:37,680 --> 00:02:39,280 Speaker 1: those two because they're just not worth the money at 46 00:02:39,280 --> 00:02:41,919 Speaker 1: this point. I mean, the Niners trading Kuan Alexanders. There's 47 00:02:41,919 --> 00:02:45,680 Speaker 1: a bad contract. I don't understand it. I mean, there's 48 00:02:45,720 --> 00:02:47,960 Speaker 1: this thing, this this talk out there that the cap 49 00:02:48,040 --> 00:02:51,040 Speaker 1: is a myth. It kind of is. It is, but 50 00:02:51,120 --> 00:02:55,000 Speaker 1: it isn't. I mean, you still have to yeah, um, 51 00:02:55,080 --> 00:02:57,399 Speaker 1: you know so I think that, I mean, they get 52 00:02:58,040 --> 00:03:00,320 Speaker 1: they're going to have to do some serious finang going 53 00:03:00,320 --> 00:03:03,720 Speaker 1: here over the next week. They're like al Capone's bookmakers 54 00:03:03,760 --> 00:03:06,240 Speaker 1: though or something. I mean, like the bookkeepers or whatever. 55 00:03:06,560 --> 00:03:08,520 Speaker 1: They get. They work on the they you know, people 56 00:03:08,560 --> 00:03:10,240 Speaker 1: think that the Steelers push a lot of money in 57 00:03:10,240 --> 00:03:14,920 Speaker 1: the future. They're working on the whimpy you know here, 58 00:03:14,919 --> 00:03:17,680 Speaker 1: I'll gladly pay you tomorrow or tuesday for a Hamburger 59 00:03:17,720 --> 00:03:20,880 Speaker 1: today every year, I mean every year. Only now they 60 00:03:20,919 --> 00:03:23,160 Speaker 1: don't have Drew Brees a quarterback anymore. No, they don't, 61 00:03:23,400 --> 00:03:25,840 Speaker 1: and now they have to find a quarterback. In addition 62 00:03:25,880 --> 00:03:29,720 Speaker 1: to this situation, I mean, maybe Marcus Williams is a 63 00:03:29,800 --> 00:03:32,200 Speaker 1: sign and trade that could see that very often, but 64 00:03:32,320 --> 00:03:35,360 Speaker 1: I was shocked when when that one came across. Um. 65 00:03:35,640 --> 00:03:38,640 Speaker 1: You haven't mentioned it yet, but Dak Prescott siling the 66 00:03:38,840 --> 00:03:42,640 Speaker 1: Monster deal. And for people don't know, I mean, not 67 00:03:42,720 --> 00:03:44,560 Speaker 1: only is Jerry Jones one of the richest owners in 68 00:03:44,560 --> 00:03:46,040 Speaker 1: the league, but he's also one of the most high 69 00:03:46,080 --> 00:03:49,960 Speaker 1: profile of course, but he's also on the TV committee, 70 00:03:49,960 --> 00:03:52,480 Speaker 1: you know, he's part of that, so he's very dialed 71 00:03:52,520 --> 00:03:56,080 Speaker 1: in with the money coming into the league. And I 72 00:03:56,120 --> 00:03:59,000 Speaker 1: think that's a reflection on all nobody gave that. Even 73 00:03:59,000 --> 00:04:01,320 Speaker 1: though the camp goes down a little bit, goes down 74 00:04:01,360 --> 00:04:04,240 Speaker 1: this year, everybody expects it to be at least to 75 00:04:04,320 --> 00:04:09,200 Speaker 1: it in ten million next year, at least, if not more. UH. 76 00:04:09,320 --> 00:04:11,760 Speaker 1: To that point, here's one here's the way the Steelers 77 00:04:11,800 --> 00:04:15,120 Speaker 1: kind of luck out on this in this situation. Tom 78 00:04:15,160 --> 00:04:21,120 Speaker 1: Pellasaro released the the the fifth year option numbers for 79 00:04:22,400 --> 00:04:26,120 Speaker 1: first round draft picks. So here's the here's the criteria 80 00:04:26,640 --> 00:04:28,680 Speaker 1: for players who have been at least selected to or 81 00:04:28,800 --> 00:04:32,240 Speaker 1: been selected to at least one Pro Bowl. This These 82 00:04:32,240 --> 00:04:36,279 Speaker 1: are guys in draft uh in the first round and 83 00:04:36,320 --> 00:04:38,479 Speaker 1: that's this now equates to all first round picks. That 84 00:04:38,600 --> 00:04:40,720 Speaker 1: this is why we we've talked about those thirty two 85 00:04:40,920 --> 00:04:44,200 Speaker 1: first round draft picks maybe not being quite as valuable 86 00:04:45,240 --> 00:04:50,280 Speaker 1: year now not so much so. A quarterback who's been 87 00:04:50,320 --> 00:04:52,680 Speaker 1: to at least one Pro Bowl, now one Pro Bowl 88 00:04:52,720 --> 00:04:56,000 Speaker 1: and fin in your first four seasons and they take 89 00:04:56,040 --> 00:04:59,320 Speaker 1: a bunch. It's not saying that much. The two guys 90 00:04:59,360 --> 00:05:02,400 Speaker 1: in the the Super Bowl don't go right, five others 91 00:05:02,400 --> 00:05:04,840 Speaker 1: opt that one guy started. Once guy start turning it down. 92 00:05:04,920 --> 00:05:07,000 Speaker 1: Now you get other guys getting pulled into the Pro Bowl. 93 00:05:07,040 --> 00:05:09,200 Speaker 1: I remember when David Gerard went, you know, like okay, 94 00:05:09,360 --> 00:05:15,160 Speaker 1: you know, so for the Yeah, the quarterback position, if 95 00:05:15,160 --> 00:05:17,480 Speaker 1: you've been selected to a Pro Bowl is twenty three 96 00:05:17,480 --> 00:05:22,160 Speaker 1: million dollars. That's fully guaranteed. It's odd criteria. Yeah, I mean, 97 00:05:22,200 --> 00:05:24,039 Speaker 1: if it's a good young dude, if it's Josh Allen 98 00:05:24,080 --> 00:05:26,920 Speaker 1: next year, lamar fine, I mean that's worth it. But 99 00:05:26,960 --> 00:05:29,720 Speaker 1: if it's David Gerrard or d Whisky, not so much. 100 00:05:29,920 --> 00:05:33,320 Speaker 1: Right At running back, it's seven point two million dollars, 101 00:05:33,839 --> 00:05:39,040 Speaker 1: which is pretty nice. It's pretty that's pretty nice. Um. 102 00:05:39,080 --> 00:05:42,760 Speaker 1: But again, this is just the fift year option. Oh yeah, 103 00:05:42,760 --> 00:05:45,159 Speaker 1: I was thinking this franchise. So when we're talking about, 104 00:05:45,839 --> 00:05:47,680 Speaker 1: you know, should the Steelers take a running back in 105 00:05:47,720 --> 00:05:49,800 Speaker 1: the first round and the fift year option, that's not 106 00:05:49,960 --> 00:05:53,600 Speaker 1: that's actually the only people with a lower fift year 107 00:05:53,640 --> 00:05:58,280 Speaker 1: option then running back the only position is kicker and punter. Right, 108 00:05:58,680 --> 00:06:01,120 Speaker 1: So if you do draft Illiams or Harris or whomever 109 00:06:01,160 --> 00:06:03,840 Speaker 1: in the first fifth fift year options, not maybe it's 110 00:06:03,839 --> 00:06:07,120 Speaker 1: a ridiculous a half or something like that. And compared 111 00:06:07,160 --> 00:06:08,400 Speaker 1: to the rest of the league and when people were 112 00:06:08,440 --> 00:06:10,680 Speaker 1: making if that guy is still in his prime, it's 113 00:06:10,680 --> 00:06:12,760 Speaker 1: pretty good in financial move. Yeah, you get the fifth 114 00:06:12,839 --> 00:06:17,440 Speaker 1: year option pretty cheap. Now for the Steelers, they have 115 00:06:17,520 --> 00:06:22,320 Speaker 1: two safeties class because they traded for maca Fitzpatrick. So, 116 00:06:22,400 --> 00:06:24,880 Speaker 1: Manka Fitzpatrick has been to a Pro Bowl, you've actually 117 00:06:24,920 --> 00:06:29,039 Speaker 1: been to two. So the fifty year option from maca 118 00:06:29,120 --> 00:06:31,600 Speaker 1: Fitzpatrick actually comes in lower than what it was going 119 00:06:31,680 --> 00:06:35,200 Speaker 1: to be because the cap went lower this year. So 120 00:06:35,240 --> 00:06:39,200 Speaker 1: it's now nine point oh five two million. I was 121 00:06:39,320 --> 00:06:41,080 Speaker 1: when I when I initially looked at this, and I 122 00:06:41,400 --> 00:06:44,000 Speaker 1: did because it's supposed to be that top that that 123 00:06:44,080 --> 00:06:45,840 Speaker 1: guy's the guys who have been to one Pro Bowl. 124 00:06:45,880 --> 00:06:48,240 Speaker 1: Is the average salary of the top it's it's the 125 00:06:48,279 --> 00:06:54,400 Speaker 1: franchise tager sense top five guys. So it's nine two million. Okay, 126 00:06:54,839 --> 00:06:56,560 Speaker 1: I mean they've gotten a nice deal on make of 127 00:06:56,600 --> 00:06:59,520 Speaker 1: the first was going to be the case. They made 128 00:06:59,520 --> 00:07:01,320 Speaker 1: a trade, like you said, kind of locked into it. 129 00:07:01,800 --> 00:07:04,320 Speaker 1: Here's the other part of the equation. For players who 130 00:07:04,360 --> 00:07:08,760 Speaker 1: achieved the playtime criteria with no Pro Bowl, which has 131 00:07:08,800 --> 00:07:11,480 Speaker 1: to be Edmonds because he's played every snap, the number, 132 00:07:11,520 --> 00:07:14,040 Speaker 1: the fift year option number is six point seven five 133 00:07:14,120 --> 00:07:16,960 Speaker 1: three million, which isn't bad, right, So you got fifteen 134 00:07:17,000 --> 00:07:19,600 Speaker 1: sixty million tied in a pair of really good in 135 00:07:19,640 --> 00:07:23,080 Speaker 1: their prime safeties. That's easy decision. Yeah. Now for the 136 00:07:23,160 --> 00:07:26,200 Speaker 1: court quarterback that hasn't made a Pro Bowl, hasn't made 137 00:07:26,200 --> 00:07:27,680 Speaker 1: a Pro Bowl in his first four years, but you're 138 00:07:27,680 --> 00:07:29,640 Speaker 1: gonna pick up his fift year option. This is the 139 00:07:29,640 --> 00:07:33,680 Speaker 1: Sam Donald situation. Yeah, okay, as Baker in that conversation, 140 00:07:33,680 --> 00:07:36,240 Speaker 1: Baker would be in their conversation, okay, to pick up 141 00:07:36,240 --> 00:07:38,560 Speaker 1: that fift year option or if you trade for this 142 00:07:38,600 --> 00:07:40,200 Speaker 1: is why I don't think the Steelers can trade for 143 00:07:40,240 --> 00:07:43,560 Speaker 1: Sam Donald right now? Why why wouldn't do it? Because 144 00:07:43,600 --> 00:07:45,320 Speaker 1: you don't that that you know you have that option 145 00:07:45,360 --> 00:07:47,400 Speaker 1: to make the fifth year deal. But if you trade 146 00:07:47,400 --> 00:07:49,440 Speaker 1: for him, you're gonna pick up his fift year option. Yeah, 147 00:07:49,440 --> 00:07:51,000 Speaker 1: you're not writing him for six. You're not gonna ran 148 00:07:51,080 --> 00:07:52,480 Speaker 1: him for one. You know, we're gonna trade a third 149 00:07:52,560 --> 00:07:54,240 Speaker 1: round d epick for Sam Donald and let him go 150 00:07:54,280 --> 00:07:57,760 Speaker 1: after a year, still negotiate long term deal when his 151 00:07:57,800 --> 00:08:00,840 Speaker 1: stocks low. So the fift year option is eight teen 152 00:08:00,920 --> 00:08:05,920 Speaker 1: point eight five million. H it's high, don't get me. 153 00:08:06,160 --> 00:08:09,480 Speaker 1: But it's fully guaranteed. It's fully the moment you make 154 00:08:09,520 --> 00:08:12,720 Speaker 1: the offer to him, it's fully guaranteed. I hear you. 155 00:08:13,560 --> 00:08:16,600 Speaker 1: But like I'm thinking about Baker more than Donald Donald. 156 00:08:16,720 --> 00:08:19,560 Speaker 1: But I'm saying this is, this is why the Steelers 157 00:08:19,640 --> 00:08:22,000 Speaker 1: can't make that You don't you don't want to make 158 00:08:22,000 --> 00:08:24,360 Speaker 1: that trade for Sam Donald and guarantee him not only 159 00:08:24,400 --> 00:08:27,360 Speaker 1: this year's selling. Because once you pick up that's that option. 160 00:08:28,000 --> 00:08:30,760 Speaker 1: Not only are you fully guaranteeing next year seller, you're 161 00:08:30,800 --> 00:08:32,760 Speaker 1: you're you're guaranteeing this year sellery as well. You're not 162 00:08:32,760 --> 00:08:34,720 Speaker 1: gonna cut You're not gonna cut the guy in have 163 00:08:34,760 --> 00:08:37,360 Speaker 1: to pay him next year. No, I don't think it 164 00:08:37,400 --> 00:08:40,000 Speaker 1: makes sense now for Donald to your point, I agree 165 00:08:40,080 --> 00:08:43,640 Speaker 1: with that. I think it makes sense for other teams. Perhaps, 166 00:08:43,720 --> 00:08:46,080 Speaker 1: you know, I don't think that's the scariest number I 167 00:08:46,120 --> 00:08:48,839 Speaker 1: ever heard. It's not, it's not terrible, but it's also 168 00:08:49,000 --> 00:08:50,959 Speaker 1: you're you're you're locking up because you also have to 169 00:08:50,960 --> 00:08:52,640 Speaker 1: pay a salary this year, which is like three or 170 00:08:52,679 --> 00:08:55,880 Speaker 1: four million, So you're locking up another for two years, 171 00:08:55,920 --> 00:08:57,920 Speaker 1: for two years for Sam Donald and you don't you 172 00:08:57,920 --> 00:08:59,880 Speaker 1: don't know if he's any good. I know, but like 173 00:09:00,000 --> 00:09:02,160 Speaker 1: if I'm the Browns, I like hearing that, and I 174 00:09:02,160 --> 00:09:05,880 Speaker 1: hope Baker doesn't go to a Pro Bowl because I'll 175 00:09:05,880 --> 00:09:08,760 Speaker 1: take that starter. They're they're also they're also talking about, 176 00:09:09,600 --> 00:09:11,840 Speaker 1: you know, extending him, because that's the that's the part 177 00:09:11,840 --> 00:09:13,600 Speaker 1: of this with the with the quarterback position. If your 178 00:09:13,640 --> 00:09:16,840 Speaker 1: quarterback is your starting quarterback, as we saw with Patrick Mahomes, 179 00:09:17,080 --> 00:09:19,720 Speaker 1: as we're gonna see with Lamar Jackson, if he's your three, 180 00:09:20,120 --> 00:09:22,080 Speaker 1: you know, he's starting quarterback for the first three years 181 00:09:22,080 --> 00:09:25,480 Speaker 1: of his career, you're probably talking. You want to you 182 00:09:25,480 --> 00:09:27,079 Speaker 1: want to lock him up, you want to extend. Good 183 00:09:27,080 --> 00:09:29,000 Speaker 1: for the building, it's good for the room. What you 184 00:09:29,120 --> 00:09:32,160 Speaker 1: don't want is that Dak Prescott situation. That's kind of 185 00:09:32,200 --> 00:09:33,679 Speaker 1: where I want to go with this a little bit too, 186 00:09:33,679 --> 00:09:35,680 Speaker 1: and there was a lot more housekeeping to talk about. 187 00:09:35,800 --> 00:09:39,920 Speaker 1: But what happened with Dak is his agent played that perfectly. 188 00:09:40,000 --> 00:09:41,560 Speaker 1: I mean got to the point with the Cowboys, didn't 189 00:09:41,559 --> 00:09:44,680 Speaker 1: have the Cowboys, fell into the Kirk Cousins situation right 190 00:09:44,800 --> 00:09:47,960 Speaker 1: with Washington, right, but with a better player. Yeah, you're right. 191 00:09:48,000 --> 00:09:50,600 Speaker 1: I mean they hadn't drafted anybody, they had no they 192 00:09:50,640 --> 00:09:52,120 Speaker 1: really had no cards in their hand when it was 193 00:09:52,120 --> 00:09:54,959 Speaker 1: said and done. And they're looking at it like. I've 194 00:09:55,000 --> 00:09:57,880 Speaker 1: also heard that all dacks rehab has been through the team, 195 00:09:58,000 --> 00:09:59,800 Speaker 1: so they're on top of that. They must feel super 196 00:09:59,800 --> 00:10:01,360 Speaker 1: com portable with it. He's actually walking up to the 197 00:10:01,400 --> 00:10:04,960 Speaker 1: podium as we speak, very smiley, as you can imagine. 198 00:10:06,200 --> 00:10:08,560 Speaker 1: But here's one thing I wanted to bring up about Dac. 199 00:10:09,880 --> 00:10:12,719 Speaker 1: If I'm Lamar Jackson's agent, which happens to be his mom, 200 00:10:12,760 --> 00:10:14,760 Speaker 1: and he probably should hire someone else to do probably 201 00:10:14,800 --> 00:10:18,640 Speaker 1: should do that. Yeah, I'm starting there, Like I personally 202 00:10:19,120 --> 00:10:21,640 Speaker 1: I would rather have Dack than Lamar. But if I'm 203 00:10:21,720 --> 00:10:24,480 Speaker 1: both their agents, if I'm Lamar's agent, I'm gonna say 204 00:10:24,640 --> 00:10:26,959 Speaker 1: I'm going to start with my guy's been the m 205 00:10:27,000 --> 00:10:29,600 Speaker 1: v P. I take my team to the playoffs every year. 206 00:10:29,640 --> 00:10:32,280 Speaker 1: You know, I guy's been the m v P. I mean, 207 00:10:32,320 --> 00:10:35,080 Speaker 1: that's what it's gonna It's gonna cost the Ravens that, yeah, 208 00:10:35,120 --> 00:10:37,640 Speaker 1: absolutely so. And the Steelers don't have to deal with 209 00:10:37,720 --> 00:10:39,920 Speaker 1: these type of contracts probably for a couple of years, 210 00:10:40,040 --> 00:10:42,080 Speaker 1: whether they draft one, traders one, whatever, it's not gonna 211 00:10:42,080 --> 00:10:44,719 Speaker 1: be one of these situations. It's not that situation. And 212 00:10:45,960 --> 00:10:49,560 Speaker 1: you know, I had I talked about that today. I 213 00:10:49,600 --> 00:10:52,440 Speaker 1: did a podcast for for d K Pittsburgh sports dot com, 214 00:10:52,440 --> 00:10:55,360 Speaker 1: and I talked about that. People the Steelers have the 215 00:10:55,679 --> 00:10:58,800 Speaker 1: twenty players now under contract for next year, but they 216 00:10:58,800 --> 00:11:02,520 Speaker 1: have a hundred forty eight million dollars in cap space. Uh, 217 00:11:02,600 --> 00:11:04,360 Speaker 1: And people said, well they've yeah, but they've only got 218 00:11:04,360 --> 00:11:07,760 Speaker 1: twenty players under contract there they can't sign, but they've 219 00:11:07,760 --> 00:11:09,560 Speaker 1: got a hundred and forty eight million dollars in cap 220 00:11:09,600 --> 00:11:11,480 Speaker 1: space and they're gonna draft seven or eight more. So 221 00:11:11,520 --> 00:11:14,680 Speaker 1: as we just see, we see here, your two safeties 222 00:11:14,679 --> 00:11:17,839 Speaker 1: are only gonna cost you fifteen of That's right, that's 223 00:11:17,960 --> 00:11:20,240 Speaker 1: that's very good. So now you're up to twenty two 224 00:11:20,240 --> 00:11:22,600 Speaker 1: because you're gonna extend you're gonna You're gonna do that 225 00:11:22,640 --> 00:11:24,520 Speaker 1: with both of those guys. That's that's a no brainer. 226 00:11:25,280 --> 00:11:27,920 Speaker 1: That's a no brainer, especially because they're would be different 227 00:11:27,960 --> 00:11:29,760 Speaker 1: if they both were making the same like it used 228 00:11:29,800 --> 00:11:32,240 Speaker 1: to be if they were Yeah, if they were both 229 00:11:32,760 --> 00:11:35,840 Speaker 1: making nine million dollars next time. Okay, now you've got 230 00:11:35,880 --> 00:11:38,800 Speaker 1: a conversation. But should we take Kevin at this stage? 231 00:11:39,760 --> 00:11:42,520 Speaker 1: You get sixteen million on two starting safeties. Boom, cool 232 00:11:42,559 --> 00:11:44,600 Speaker 1: because we just saw that. We just saw the safety 233 00:11:44,679 --> 00:11:48,800 Speaker 1: from from the Bills, which which one players just signed 234 00:11:48,800 --> 00:11:51,880 Speaker 1: a new deal. Confused it was poor? I think it 235 00:11:51,880 --> 00:11:53,920 Speaker 1: was yeah, yeah, I think it was Poyer to sign 236 00:11:53,960 --> 00:11:55,960 Speaker 1: a new deal for like nine and a half million 237 00:11:55,960 --> 00:11:59,679 Speaker 1: a year. He's he's a good player, yeah, right right, 238 00:11:59,720 --> 00:12:04,320 Speaker 1: and he um the defense I'd rather have Manka, you know, 239 00:12:04,400 --> 00:12:07,280 Speaker 1: and and the war between those two yeah and Edmonds 240 00:12:07,320 --> 00:12:09,319 Speaker 1: is you know again, I think we talked about this 241 00:12:09,360 --> 00:12:11,600 Speaker 1: when the Steelers and Bills played. O Minca is your 242 00:12:11,640 --> 00:12:13,920 Speaker 1: best safety, then Bills guys in the next two and 243 00:12:14,000 --> 00:12:17,080 Speaker 1: inn Edmonds. But Edmonds isn't that far off from those guys. 244 00:12:17,320 --> 00:12:19,840 Speaker 1: He starts for most teams with without question, he's ascending. 245 00:12:19,840 --> 00:12:21,839 Speaker 1: He plays every snap of his career, you know, right, 246 00:12:21,880 --> 00:12:24,960 Speaker 1: I mean he has value. I mean his contract in itself, 247 00:12:24,960 --> 00:12:26,760 Speaker 1: would you say with six point nine or something like that, 248 00:12:26,920 --> 00:12:30,360 Speaker 1: six point seven, I'll take that. Yeah, that's that's that's 249 00:12:30,360 --> 00:12:33,080 Speaker 1: an average starter money for you know, six if you 250 00:12:33,120 --> 00:12:36,520 Speaker 1: get a starter in today's NFL on their second contract. Like, 251 00:12:36,559 --> 00:12:39,839 Speaker 1: if I'm the Steelers and I'm I'm thorrow Edmonds agent, 252 00:12:40,600 --> 00:12:43,520 Speaker 1: We're gonna sit down and talk contract. Okay if we 253 00:12:43,600 --> 00:12:45,800 Speaker 1: get to that average you know, around six million a year, 254 00:12:45,840 --> 00:12:48,560 Speaker 1: between six and seven million a year, okay, if you're 255 00:12:48,600 --> 00:12:50,880 Speaker 1: the Steelers. Yeah, and if I'm the agent, I'm like, yeah, 256 00:12:50,880 --> 00:12:52,240 Speaker 1: we can do because he's not going to get more 257 00:12:52,240 --> 00:12:54,080 Speaker 1: than that on the open marketably not. I mean there's 258 00:12:54,080 --> 00:12:55,880 Speaker 1: always a lot of safeties on the I mean, he 259 00:12:55,880 --> 00:12:59,280 Speaker 1: doesn't take the ball away. That's the biggest issue with him. So, 260 00:12:59,520 --> 00:13:01,280 Speaker 1: you know, but happy with you, You're happy with us 261 00:13:01,679 --> 00:13:03,720 Speaker 1: a lot. He does enough good things that he would 262 00:13:03,760 --> 00:13:06,800 Speaker 1: be worth that that contract. Yeah. That's actually kind of 263 00:13:06,800 --> 00:13:08,920 Speaker 1: a Bill's way of team building. They have a lot 264 00:13:09,000 --> 00:13:12,079 Speaker 1: of six to ten million dollar guys. You know that 265 00:13:12,720 --> 00:13:14,520 Speaker 1: he gives you depth. You know, you don't give one 266 00:13:14,559 --> 00:13:17,280 Speaker 1: guy of a zillion dollars. I didn't realize that safety news. 267 00:13:17,480 --> 00:13:19,480 Speaker 1: That's really good for the Steelers for next year. Yeah. 268 00:13:19,559 --> 00:13:22,880 Speaker 1: So um, trying to think of what the other news was. 269 00:13:22,920 --> 00:13:24,520 Speaker 1: We want to talk about. Well, we have doc, we 270 00:13:24,559 --> 00:13:28,720 Speaker 1: have some releases. Yeah, the releases are starting. These are 271 00:13:28,800 --> 00:13:31,240 Speaker 1: these are gonna go on here. For example, the Bills 272 00:13:31,280 --> 00:13:34,280 Speaker 1: released Quentin Jefferson and John Brown today. They're gonna be 273 00:13:34,280 --> 00:13:36,200 Speaker 1: falling left and right. Folks. This is a team that 274 00:13:36,679 --> 00:13:38,520 Speaker 1: you know, people, well, they're way better, They're way better 275 00:13:38,520 --> 00:13:42,559 Speaker 1: cap shaped than the Steelers, but they were still releasing starters. Yeah, 276 00:13:42,600 --> 00:13:45,280 Speaker 1: it's quality players. I mean what I've been told. I mean, 277 00:13:45,320 --> 00:13:47,000 Speaker 1: this is kind of side note is I think the 278 00:13:47,040 --> 00:13:50,480 Speaker 1: Bills they want to add one. They just kind of 279 00:13:51,000 --> 00:13:53,920 Speaker 1: they added digs last year. They've now fallen in love 280 00:13:53,960 --> 00:13:55,679 Speaker 1: if we get an ad a start, right. I think 281 00:13:55,720 --> 00:13:57,880 Speaker 1: it once they wanted to be a pass rush type guy. 282 00:13:58,080 --> 00:13:59,679 Speaker 1: You know, maybe Bud the pre ends up there. I 283 00:13:59,720 --> 00:14:01,840 Speaker 1: don't you know, but I think that's their plan, is 284 00:14:01,880 --> 00:14:04,960 Speaker 1: setting up to add one more dominant guy that can 285 00:14:05,000 --> 00:14:07,599 Speaker 1: get after the quarterback or impact guy. Yeah, it's a 286 00:14:07,679 --> 00:14:12,120 Speaker 1: it's a It's funny because it's the exact opposite of 287 00:14:12,160 --> 00:14:14,520 Speaker 1: what they had been building to get to this point. 288 00:14:15,200 --> 00:14:17,240 Speaker 1: The house is built now now they're now they're putting 289 00:14:17,240 --> 00:14:18,720 Speaker 1: it and now they're kind of taking down some of 290 00:14:18,760 --> 00:14:23,080 Speaker 1: the walls to put up some fancy new yeah, right right. 291 00:14:23,440 --> 00:14:24,720 Speaker 1: I don't know if I don't know if that's the 292 00:14:24,720 --> 00:14:27,600 Speaker 1: way to go, that's the that's the Rams model. That's questionable, right. 293 00:14:27,640 --> 00:14:29,760 Speaker 1: I think they're there because they've built this thing so 294 00:14:29,840 --> 00:14:32,120 Speaker 1: well and they have spread it out over a lot 295 00:14:32,160 --> 00:14:35,080 Speaker 1: of guys, and they built their offensive line basically in 296 00:14:35,120 --> 00:14:39,000 Speaker 1: one offseason two years ago by signing like guys, it's 297 00:14:39,040 --> 00:14:41,440 Speaker 1: just signed everybody over a million bucks each, I mean, 298 00:14:41,440 --> 00:14:43,240 Speaker 1: and Morse hit and a couple of them hit. They 299 00:14:43,280 --> 00:14:46,160 Speaker 1: traded a couple of them right right right, So it's 300 00:14:46,200 --> 00:14:48,440 Speaker 1: interesting now these last two years you go get digs 301 00:14:48,480 --> 00:14:50,120 Speaker 1: and you give up your first round pick, and they're 302 00:14:50,120 --> 00:14:53,600 Speaker 1: gonna do something similar in free agency. Who knows, it 303 00:14:53,680 --> 00:14:55,680 Speaker 1: might put them over the top, But that's a dangerous 304 00:14:55,720 --> 00:15:00,680 Speaker 1: game when you are built really smart and then you think, okay, 305 00:15:00,720 --> 00:15:02,560 Speaker 1: now is the time to zag and get that one 306 00:15:02,560 --> 00:15:05,000 Speaker 1: guy to throw me over the top, which still brings 307 00:15:05,000 --> 00:15:06,720 Speaker 1: me the Steelers next year, like when they do have 308 00:15:06,800 --> 00:15:09,160 Speaker 1: cap space, I don't think the Steelers are gonna go 309 00:15:09,160 --> 00:15:12,360 Speaker 1: sign Gadeveon Clowney, you know what I mean. No, They're 310 00:15:12,360 --> 00:15:15,360 Speaker 1: gonna build it. They're gonna, you know, get a couple 311 00:15:15,400 --> 00:15:18,360 Speaker 1: of mid level free agents and they're gonna resign their 312 00:15:18,360 --> 00:15:21,920 Speaker 1: own guys. That's why I'm not concerned about that hundred million. 313 00:15:22,000 --> 00:15:24,560 Speaker 1: It's not like they're gonna go sign Dak Prescott. But 314 00:15:24,600 --> 00:15:28,000 Speaker 1: they can. But you know, they have the ability to 315 00:15:28,040 --> 00:15:30,880 Speaker 1: do that, but there's no reason to do that, you know, 316 00:15:31,120 --> 00:15:32,840 Speaker 1: and spend a quarter of your cap. Now they're gonna 317 00:15:32,840 --> 00:15:35,240 Speaker 1: have to pay t J want. But that's not good. 318 00:15:35,280 --> 00:15:38,640 Speaker 1: That's million. No, I mean, that's not going to break 319 00:15:38,680 --> 00:15:40,800 Speaker 1: the bank or anything. Like. You still have a hundred 320 00:15:41,360 --> 00:15:44,320 Speaker 1: million or hundred million, and depends what happens with your 321 00:15:44,360 --> 00:15:47,800 Speaker 1: quarterback situation if that was this year. I'm just using 322 00:15:47,840 --> 00:15:50,560 Speaker 1: this year because we know who they are. You keep 323 00:15:50,600 --> 00:15:52,680 Speaker 1: sutting right off the bat. I mean, like you're not fighting. 324 00:15:53,480 --> 00:15:55,320 Speaker 1: You can keep whoever you want from that right that's 325 00:15:55,320 --> 00:15:58,080 Speaker 1: the thing that still choose to let you walk. Maybe 326 00:15:58,080 --> 00:16:00,400 Speaker 1: you're not ready to pay Bud that money, but you 327 00:16:00,480 --> 00:16:02,960 Speaker 1: can if you think they're worth it. Where now this year, 328 00:16:03,000 --> 00:16:05,200 Speaker 1: you really can't. Right, even if you think that guy's 329 00:16:05,240 --> 00:16:07,560 Speaker 1: worth it, you can't afford him next year. That's not 330 00:16:07,600 --> 00:16:10,600 Speaker 1: the case. But like Sutton might already be signed next 331 00:16:10,640 --> 00:16:13,520 Speaker 1: year's version of sand or whoever emerges, you know. Yeah, 332 00:16:13,520 --> 00:16:15,040 Speaker 1: so it's gonna be interesting. I mean, they could do 333 00:16:15,080 --> 00:16:17,360 Speaker 1: a bunch of that, and we talked like they could. 334 00:16:17,560 --> 00:16:21,320 Speaker 1: They could extend Steven Nelson for example. Yeah, he's gonna 335 00:16:21,360 --> 00:16:23,280 Speaker 1: he's he's signed through the end of this year. You 336 00:16:23,360 --> 00:16:25,800 Speaker 1: extend him, you lower his cap hit this year, and 337 00:16:25,840 --> 00:16:29,680 Speaker 1: you lock up another player in future, and you don't 338 00:16:29,680 --> 00:16:31,520 Speaker 1: have a cornerback need as much because you don't have 339 00:16:31,560 --> 00:16:33,080 Speaker 1: to worry about the caps based down the road. You 340 00:16:33,120 --> 00:16:35,640 Speaker 1: can make that salary or you can structure that however 341 00:16:35,680 --> 00:16:37,720 Speaker 1: you want, because as long as he doesn't drop off 342 00:16:37,720 --> 00:16:41,000 Speaker 1: a cliff, it's worth it. He's a serviceable starter or better, 343 00:16:41,160 --> 00:16:43,880 Speaker 1: he's worth it, and he's not very old. No, we're 344 00:16:43,920 --> 00:16:46,920 Speaker 1: also at some point later today we're gonna see in 345 00:16:46,960 --> 00:16:49,120 Speaker 1: the next at least in the next two days, the 346 00:16:49,200 --> 00:16:52,600 Speaker 1: compensatory picks finally come out. Oh yeah, interesting, And for 347 00:16:52,640 --> 00:16:55,480 Speaker 1: people that don't understand that, uh, they're gonna be thirty 348 00:16:55,480 --> 00:16:59,320 Speaker 1: two of them awarded there is every year, right, the 349 00:16:59,320 --> 00:17:02,680 Speaker 1: compensatory picks that were awarded this year for GM and 350 00:17:02,720 --> 00:17:05,920 Speaker 1: coach hir Rings don't count into that formula. They don't 351 00:17:05,960 --> 00:17:09,040 Speaker 1: doesn't matter in that And the most the team can 352 00:17:09,080 --> 00:17:13,000 Speaker 1: get is four, which is a hall. Yeah, but when 353 00:17:13,000 --> 00:17:15,080 Speaker 1: you think about there's thirty two, only thirty two of 354 00:17:15,080 --> 00:17:18,600 Speaker 1: them awarded on average, that's two per team. I'm sorry one. 355 00:17:20,000 --> 00:17:22,119 Speaker 1: So if you get two compensatory picks in a year, 356 00:17:22,160 --> 00:17:24,359 Speaker 1: you've done well. You've done well. Absolutely. I mean you 357 00:17:24,440 --> 00:17:26,560 Speaker 1: lost some guys to get there, but there's a reason 358 00:17:26,640 --> 00:17:28,800 Speaker 1: you got them. You know. Uh, if you know next 359 00:17:28,920 --> 00:17:31,119 Speaker 1: year people well the Steelers should get you know, four, 360 00:17:31,560 --> 00:17:35,560 Speaker 1: they could, but it's also going to get you know. 361 00:17:35,680 --> 00:17:38,960 Speaker 1: That's why when when free agency starts next week, you 362 00:17:39,000 --> 00:17:41,040 Speaker 1: know when when Bud Dupree signs, you want him to 363 00:17:41,080 --> 00:17:43,280 Speaker 1: sign for as much money as he can get. Oh yeah, 364 00:17:43,600 --> 00:17:45,560 Speaker 1: the same with Juju Smith Schuster. If al Villa in 365 00:17:45,560 --> 00:17:48,000 Speaker 1: the Wuava gets a big contract offer from some you 366 00:17:48,000 --> 00:17:51,960 Speaker 1: know contract, pay him like starting left tackle, somebody that 367 00:17:52,280 --> 00:17:54,720 Speaker 1: will pay off little things like people don't think about, 368 00:17:54,720 --> 00:17:58,160 Speaker 1: like Jesse James signing with the Lions. They got more 369 00:17:58,200 --> 00:18:00,920 Speaker 1: in return for him and what he would have given 370 00:18:00,960 --> 00:18:02,920 Speaker 1: him as a player and had to pay him. You 371 00:18:02,960 --> 00:18:05,199 Speaker 1: know what I mean. Um, you know the Steelers are 372 00:18:05,200 --> 00:18:07,320 Speaker 1: going to get there. They're expected to get a six 373 00:18:07,400 --> 00:18:10,200 Speaker 1: round draft pick as a competitory pick, a fourth for 374 00:18:10,280 --> 00:18:15,520 Speaker 1: Javon Hargrave, and a sixth for Nick Vanette, who they 375 00:18:15,520 --> 00:18:19,000 Speaker 1: gave up a fifth fight for basically, so yeah, you 376 00:18:19,080 --> 00:18:20,639 Speaker 1: rented them for a year and you get you know, 377 00:18:20,680 --> 00:18:22,520 Speaker 1: you get a six round draft pick back or Nick 378 00:18:22,640 --> 00:18:26,680 Speaker 1: Vanett Nick Vanette, right right right. So the other thing 379 00:18:26,680 --> 00:18:29,520 Speaker 1: that you know, when we've talked about this before, but 380 00:18:29,600 --> 00:18:33,119 Speaker 1: when when the free agency period starts, And it's until 381 00:18:33,640 --> 00:18:36,080 Speaker 1: right before I think the week before the draft is 382 00:18:36,080 --> 00:18:39,800 Speaker 1: when the compensatory line cuts off. So there that ye, 383 00:18:40,680 --> 00:18:44,840 Speaker 1: that first wave of free agents, all those big signings, Um, 384 00:18:44,880 --> 00:18:47,639 Speaker 1: the guys who are actual free agents, not guys who 385 00:18:47,680 --> 00:18:50,159 Speaker 1: have been released by other teams, counting the equation they got, know, 386 00:18:50,240 --> 00:18:51,960 Speaker 1: the guys who yeah, the guys who have been released 387 00:18:52,000 --> 00:18:54,399 Speaker 1: don't count the guys who are actual free agents counting 388 00:18:54,480 --> 00:18:58,200 Speaker 1: contract coming up. And then you balance those things out. 389 00:18:58,240 --> 00:19:01,199 Speaker 1: So if your team signs a big name guy and 390 00:19:01,240 --> 00:19:03,320 Speaker 1: loses a big name guy, you could get nothing. You 391 00:19:03,320 --> 00:19:06,919 Speaker 1: could get nothing. But if you sign someone monstrous and 392 00:19:06,960 --> 00:19:10,439 Speaker 1: don't nobody leaves, you're definitely not getting You're not getting anything. 393 00:19:11,160 --> 00:19:14,120 Speaker 1: But this year you're the stealers. Are gonna lose more 394 00:19:14,119 --> 00:19:16,720 Speaker 1: than they gain, for sure. I mean, that's a that's 395 00:19:17,640 --> 00:19:21,159 Speaker 1: I think that was part of the reason the the 396 00:19:21,160 --> 00:19:23,600 Speaker 1: the Patriots traded with the Raiders to get Trent Brown 397 00:19:23,680 --> 00:19:27,320 Speaker 1: back and then signed him to a one year deal. 398 00:19:28,080 --> 00:19:29,920 Speaker 1: Some for some reason, they get Trent Brown to agree 399 00:19:29,920 --> 00:19:31,280 Speaker 1: to a one year deal. I don't know. Yeah, I'm 400 00:19:31,280 --> 00:19:33,960 Speaker 1: not sure how that all went. But so Trent Brown 401 00:19:34,000 --> 00:19:35,880 Speaker 1: now gets to be a free agent again next year. 402 00:19:37,560 --> 00:19:40,840 Speaker 1: The Patriots then if he leaves, get to recoup another 403 00:19:40,960 --> 00:19:45,639 Speaker 1: draft pick, another compensatory pick, presumably for Trent Brown, who 404 00:19:45,680 --> 00:19:48,639 Speaker 1: they've already gotten a compensatory pick for once. They basically 405 00:19:48,640 --> 00:19:50,800 Speaker 1: got a third for him because he signed a monster 406 00:19:50,880 --> 00:19:54,040 Speaker 1: deal with the Raiders a year later. You give up 407 00:19:54,080 --> 00:19:57,840 Speaker 1: like a fifth to bring him back like they've they've wanted. 408 00:19:57,880 --> 00:20:00,480 Speaker 1: It's the most Patriot deal ever. Yeah, they've now if 409 00:20:01,080 --> 00:20:04,640 Speaker 1: could only draft, if you made the pick work, if 410 00:20:04,640 --> 00:20:07,280 Speaker 1: he was a good draft which he's not, which which 411 00:20:07,320 --> 00:20:10,120 Speaker 1: is just completely one of the most underreported things in 412 00:20:10,280 --> 00:20:15,159 Speaker 1: the history of the last twenty years. I don't know 413 00:20:15,160 --> 00:20:17,879 Speaker 1: if if there's a I mean, there've been worse guys 414 00:20:17,880 --> 00:20:22,560 Speaker 1: than than Belichick, but he's decided he's decidedly average. Yes, 415 00:20:22,760 --> 00:20:24,560 Speaker 1: when it comes to draft about this, I mean I 416 00:20:24,600 --> 00:20:26,560 Speaker 1: just saw a blurb on my phone like five minutes ago. 417 00:20:26,920 --> 00:20:29,880 Speaker 1: Nikill Harry's being shocked. Now. Yeah, he was the first 418 00:20:29,960 --> 00:20:32,520 Speaker 1: round pick a year ago. He's cheap labor at the 419 00:20:32,560 --> 00:20:36,000 Speaker 1: position there. Yeah, you don't have anybody. Don't have anybody there, right, 420 00:20:36,080 --> 00:20:38,400 Speaker 1: I mean somebody. They'll probably get a third round, fourth 421 00:20:38,520 --> 00:20:40,520 Speaker 1: round pick for him, don't they make him up there? 422 00:20:40,560 --> 00:20:43,840 Speaker 1: Maybe a fifth. I mean, that's a terrible investment. But 423 00:20:44,160 --> 00:20:46,520 Speaker 1: it's not like they need the cap space. No, right 424 00:20:46,640 --> 00:20:48,760 Speaker 1: right in Brown's the opposite though. They've won on that 425 00:20:48,800 --> 00:20:50,920 Speaker 1: transaction like three times, and he's gonna be there starting 426 00:20:50,920 --> 00:20:53,560 Speaker 1: retackle this year and he's still good. Yeah, well, Marcus 427 00:20:53,600 --> 00:20:55,320 Speaker 1: Cannis coming back to So maybe I don't know who, 428 00:20:55,840 --> 00:20:58,960 Speaker 1: Maybe they put maybe they put Bran and left because 429 00:20:59,520 --> 00:21:01,560 Speaker 1: their draft picked there that the kid they drafted out 430 00:21:01,560 --> 00:21:05,640 Speaker 1: of Georgia hasn't worked out and someone's gonna move into 431 00:21:05,680 --> 00:21:07,640 Speaker 1: guard because they did find that kid with a bunch 432 00:21:07,640 --> 00:21:09,639 Speaker 1: of owls, his name, I forget his name. Who's was 433 00:21:09,680 --> 00:21:12,760 Speaker 1: there starting tackle this year? They did dig a diamond 434 00:21:12,760 --> 00:21:15,520 Speaker 1: in the rough out, which they do, but odd, I mean, 435 00:21:15,560 --> 00:21:18,640 Speaker 1: there's the whole calm thing is interesting. Um. The other 436 00:21:18,640 --> 00:21:21,080 Speaker 1: thing about the compics just when they do become released people, 437 00:21:21,119 --> 00:21:22,679 Speaker 1: I'm sure most of you know this, but they're at 438 00:21:22,680 --> 00:21:24,119 Speaker 1: the very end of the round if you get a 439 00:21:24,119 --> 00:21:25,680 Speaker 1: third round or it's the very end of the round, 440 00:21:26,240 --> 00:21:28,480 Speaker 1: and they are tradeable now and growing up they weren't 441 00:21:28,480 --> 00:21:29,800 Speaker 1: a couple of years ago. They weren't with and that's 442 00:21:29,840 --> 00:21:32,320 Speaker 1: what makes it more valuable. I mean, you know, when 443 00:21:32,320 --> 00:21:34,240 Speaker 1: I have to make a pick there, you know. Yeah, 444 00:21:34,400 --> 00:21:36,560 Speaker 1: so again, if the Steelers get what's expected, that would 445 00:21:36,560 --> 00:21:39,280 Speaker 1: be a fourth and a sixth that would add to 446 00:21:39,280 --> 00:21:41,720 Speaker 1: what they've got already on the books here and and 447 00:21:42,240 --> 00:21:46,399 Speaker 1: uh again, if you've got you know, the fourth and 448 00:21:46,440 --> 00:21:48,120 Speaker 1: the six will be on the on the final day 449 00:21:48,119 --> 00:21:51,520 Speaker 1: of the draft. Obviously you're not getting it. But that's 450 00:21:51,520 --> 00:21:55,359 Speaker 1: a fourth round pick that's valuable. That's valuable. I mean, 451 00:21:55,440 --> 00:21:58,960 Speaker 1: that's an inside linebacker, that's a center that you like 452 00:21:59,160 --> 00:22:01,199 Speaker 1: that you don't need to And we've done a lot 453 00:22:01,240 --> 00:22:05,760 Speaker 1: of mock drafts obviously, and that area from from the 454 00:22:05,800 --> 00:22:08,680 Speaker 1: time they make their fourth round pick until the sixth 455 00:22:08,720 --> 00:22:10,200 Speaker 1: round when when they come back up as they don't 456 00:22:10,200 --> 00:22:12,320 Speaker 1: have a fifth round pick. There's a lot of good 457 00:22:12,359 --> 00:22:14,240 Speaker 1: guys going off the board there, and you're like, I'd 458 00:22:14,280 --> 00:22:17,159 Speaker 1: love to have a pick in this area. Now you do, 459 00:22:17,320 --> 00:22:19,600 Speaker 1: Now you do? Yeah, either way, we have been doing it. 460 00:22:19,600 --> 00:22:23,440 Speaker 1: It's almost like, Okay, after that huge gap, you take 461 00:22:23,480 --> 00:22:25,520 Speaker 1: a couple of flyers, you know, and you have no 462 00:22:25,640 --> 00:22:27,800 Speaker 1: hopes for those dudes, and all the ones before that 463 00:22:27,840 --> 00:22:30,159 Speaker 1: are really your draft. Well, now you kind of have 464 00:22:30,200 --> 00:22:32,359 Speaker 1: a more of a flow, you know, where you're torn 465 00:22:32,400 --> 00:22:34,760 Speaker 1: between two guys and one might fault you or whatever, 466 00:22:35,119 --> 00:22:37,000 Speaker 1: or you trade up, you know, or trade back or 467 00:22:37,080 --> 00:22:41,120 Speaker 1: trade future picks. And you know, this is massive speculation 468 00:22:41,160 --> 00:22:43,400 Speaker 1: because there's only thirty two of them, But a year 469 00:22:43,440 --> 00:22:46,280 Speaker 1: from now, I think there's a chance they have two thirds. Yeah, 470 00:22:46,400 --> 00:22:48,640 Speaker 1: there's there's definitely potential for them. They could. They could 471 00:22:48,680 --> 00:22:52,320 Speaker 1: wind up before because they're not gonna they're not gonna 472 00:22:52,359 --> 00:22:56,440 Speaker 1: sign anybody. They're right, maybe a center, but that's not 473 00:22:56,480 --> 00:22:59,639 Speaker 1: gonna kill them. Um. I've heard some people speculate the 474 00:22:59,640 --> 00:23:02,040 Speaker 1: Steaders have two thirds a fourth and a fifth next year, 475 00:23:02,200 --> 00:23:05,800 Speaker 1: which would be that's massive, unbelievable, unbelievable and in addition 476 00:23:05,840 --> 00:23:10,600 Speaker 1: to your already picks they have. Yeah, so a good situation. Yeah. 477 00:23:10,640 --> 00:23:12,800 Speaker 1: One other thing that has happened here, and we talked 478 00:23:12,840 --> 00:23:14,520 Speaker 1: about this a little bit a few weeks ago, is 479 00:23:14,560 --> 00:23:17,239 Speaker 1: they have restructured to contract of j J or not 480 00:23:17,320 --> 00:23:19,640 Speaker 1: j J. What Derek what? Yeah, that just happened today 481 00:23:19,720 --> 00:23:22,200 Speaker 1: or yesterday. Yeah, close to a million now, Yeah, that 482 00:23:22,400 --> 00:23:25,880 Speaker 1: that cleared up about eight and change eight hundred thousand 483 00:23:25,920 --> 00:23:27,560 Speaker 1: and change, which is what we thought it would and 484 00:23:27,880 --> 00:23:30,879 Speaker 1: he'll be back. Yeah, he'll be back. Freeze up some cash. 485 00:23:31,040 --> 00:23:34,240 Speaker 1: I expect to see something similar happened at some point 486 00:23:34,240 --> 00:23:35,880 Speaker 1: with stuff on to it or maybe they just talk 487 00:23:35,960 --> 00:23:38,760 Speaker 1: extension with stuff onto it period. Just a straight extension 488 00:23:38,800 --> 00:23:40,920 Speaker 1: with him when you need the money, like you've laid 489 00:23:40,960 --> 00:23:43,320 Speaker 1: that out. Well, they could do that with Nelson, they 490 00:23:43,320 --> 00:23:45,840 Speaker 1: could do that with two and Ebron Boswell. I mean 491 00:23:45,840 --> 00:23:47,560 Speaker 1: Boswell to me is the easiest one of them. Yeah, 492 00:23:47,600 --> 00:23:50,000 Speaker 1: I mean he's giving me on the team. Although we did, 493 00:23:50,080 --> 00:23:52,560 Speaker 1: like Dan Carpenter got cut and every couple of kickers 494 00:23:52,560 --> 00:23:54,960 Speaker 1: that got cut in the last few days that Uh, 495 00:23:55,240 --> 00:23:57,600 Speaker 1: you're looking and go, boy, that's not a position you know, 496 00:23:57,640 --> 00:23:59,840 Speaker 1: I get it. You want to Yeah, you want to 497 00:24:00,119 --> 00:24:01,960 Speaker 1: save a little money there, but that's not a position 498 00:24:02,000 --> 00:24:04,240 Speaker 1: to do it at No, not if you have a guy. 499 00:24:04,440 --> 00:24:06,840 Speaker 1: You know, we saw that one year where he was shaky. 500 00:24:06,880 --> 00:24:09,000 Speaker 1: What a feeling that is. But the most part of 501 00:24:09,000 --> 00:24:13,640 Speaker 1: Steeler fans have been pretty spoiled with a consistent kicker. Yeah. Absolutely, 502 00:24:13,680 --> 00:24:17,120 Speaker 1: but we are going. Oh, the compensatory picks are out 503 00:24:17,200 --> 00:24:20,040 Speaker 1: as we sit here late breaking news. I'll read you 504 00:24:20,040 --> 00:24:22,760 Speaker 1: to see what. Let's suit the Steelers got here. They 505 00:24:22,840 --> 00:24:27,840 Speaker 1: got a fourth round compensatory pick, which is pick I 506 00:24:27,840 --> 00:24:29,800 Speaker 1: think we've actually had picked one for you one before 507 00:24:29,840 --> 00:24:33,840 Speaker 1: we traded for that one, and that is actually it 508 00:24:34,200 --> 00:24:38,760 Speaker 1: only they only got the fourth Again, it's some competition. 509 00:24:38,760 --> 00:24:41,400 Speaker 1: I mean, everyone's playing this game to get comp pics 510 00:24:41,520 --> 00:24:44,600 Speaker 1: and a lot of people speculating it's a twisted car, 511 00:24:44,960 --> 00:24:47,520 Speaker 1: a strange formula of how they actually come up with it. 512 00:24:47,520 --> 00:24:49,520 Speaker 1: It's not just the dollars you signed for, it's also 513 00:24:49,760 --> 00:24:51,640 Speaker 1: you know your snap again, you only give up thirty, 514 00:24:51,680 --> 00:24:54,520 Speaker 1: you only give them, Yeah, I pick of an extra 515 00:24:54,520 --> 00:24:56,760 Speaker 1: fourth though. Yeah, so they I mean they lost Sean 516 00:24:56,840 --> 00:24:59,199 Speaker 1: Davis then signed him back. Yeah, that's kind of a 517 00:24:59,200 --> 00:25:03,240 Speaker 1: Patriot move. Lost b J. Finney, lost Javon Hargrave, Tyler Mandakavich, 518 00:25:03,400 --> 00:25:06,159 Speaker 1: Nick Venette, They signed Eric E. Brunn and Derek Watt, 519 00:25:07,000 --> 00:25:09,680 Speaker 1: and then in respond to a year later, you can 520 00:25:09,720 --> 00:25:12,040 Speaker 1: get a fourth round pick. Yeah, and next year when 521 00:25:12,080 --> 00:25:14,080 Speaker 1: we have this conversation, is gonna be a lot more fun. Yeah. 522 00:25:14,160 --> 00:25:16,080 Speaker 1: So that's a nice pick up. That's good. I would 523 00:25:16,119 --> 00:25:18,520 Speaker 1: have liked the four and a six, but such his 524 00:25:18,600 --> 00:25:20,919 Speaker 1: life late six isn't worth that much. No, but that 525 00:25:21,000 --> 00:25:23,960 Speaker 1: fourth round pick is certainly valuable. And the team that 526 00:25:24,040 --> 00:25:28,360 Speaker 1: got the uh, just see looking here, Dallas. Dallas ended 527 00:25:28,440 --> 00:25:31,440 Speaker 1: up with four. I don't think who they lost, Well, 528 00:25:31,560 --> 00:25:37,320 Speaker 1: Dallas lost. Uh. They lost Randall Cobb, MALIEK. Collins, Jeff Heath, 529 00:25:37,440 --> 00:25:43,920 Speaker 1: Byron Jones, Robert Quinn, uh Cffolo, Xavier and Jason Witten. Yeah, 530 00:25:44,359 --> 00:25:48,119 Speaker 1: Byron Jones a big one. But that's a lot um 531 00:25:48,520 --> 00:25:51,240 Speaker 1: any thirds were given out. Atlanta got three, green Bay 532 00:25:51,280 --> 00:25:52,960 Speaker 1: got three, and then there are a bunch of teams 533 00:25:52,960 --> 00:25:55,720 Speaker 1: you've got to Baltimore only got one. This year. The 534 00:25:56,800 --> 00:26:00,439 Speaker 1: third round picks were New England got the highest one 535 00:26:00,440 --> 00:26:07,080 Speaker 1: at ninety six, the Chargers at New Orleans at Dallas 536 00:26:07,080 --> 00:26:10,720 Speaker 1: at ninety nine. I'm assuming that is four Bio. Tennessee 537 00:26:10,720 --> 00:26:12,760 Speaker 1: got one at the hundredth pick in the draft, the 538 00:26:12,880 --> 00:26:15,800 Speaker 1: Rams got one oh one. San Francisco got one oh 539 00:26:15,840 --> 00:26:20,959 Speaker 1: two and one oh three. Yeah, the Rams got one 540 00:26:21,040 --> 00:26:24,760 Speaker 1: oh four, Baltimore got one oh five, and the Saints 541 00:26:24,760 --> 00:26:28,080 Speaker 1: got one oh six. Interesting. That brings us up a 542 00:26:28,119 --> 00:26:30,080 Speaker 1: lot about the Rams. But people kill them for not 543 00:26:30,119 --> 00:26:33,040 Speaker 1: having first round picks, and they're very odd team construction. 544 00:26:33,440 --> 00:26:36,600 Speaker 1: They always pick up a couple of compicks. It was Baltimore. 545 00:26:36,760 --> 00:26:40,760 Speaker 1: Baltimore lost Michael Pearson and Seth Roberts and signed Derek Wolfe. 546 00:26:41,080 --> 00:26:43,560 Speaker 1: Michael Pierce did he opted out last year. They got 547 00:26:43,560 --> 00:26:45,400 Speaker 1: a third round pick for a guy didn't play last year. 548 00:26:46,520 --> 00:26:49,479 Speaker 1: That's a little strange. Yeah, I'm not saying's fishy. It's 549 00:26:49,520 --> 00:26:51,679 Speaker 1: just a little strange because he didn't even sign that 550 00:26:51,680 --> 00:26:55,280 Speaker 1: big a deal. It wasn't It wasn't a huge one. No, Um, 551 00:26:55,359 --> 00:26:59,040 Speaker 1: it wasn't bigger than the Hardgrave deal. No, not even close. 552 00:26:59,200 --> 00:27:00,840 Speaker 1: And hard Grave play at a year and he played 553 00:27:00,840 --> 00:27:05,840 Speaker 1: and playtime is actually factored. That's odd. And Wolf's not 554 00:27:05,920 --> 00:27:09,199 Speaker 1: a joke. I mean Wolves. Somebody that they brought in 555 00:27:09,359 --> 00:27:12,480 Speaker 1: is and the Patriots. Patriots essentially got a third round 556 00:27:12,480 --> 00:27:21,199 Speaker 1: pick because Tom Brady signed with the Tampa Bay Fair enough. Anyways, 557 00:27:21,240 --> 00:27:23,720 Speaker 1: we're gonna take a break. He is Matt Williamson. I'm 558 00:27:23,800 --> 00:27:25,800 Speaker 1: Dale Lolly. You've been listening to the Drive here on 559 00:27:25,840 --> 00:27:28,280 Speaker 1: Steelers Nation Radio. 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