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Speaker 1: This is our life, this is our passion. That's the

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Speaker 1: spirit we bring to this show. I'm Thomas, I'm Brian Campbell.

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Speaker 2: This this morning Combat.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, oh friggin yeah, no, hey no, no, no

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Speaker 1: gross French voice today. Okay, but get fired up, just

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Speaker 1: the same. It's back and it's the best, uh best selling.

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Speaker 1: damn combat sports show they ever created, the one you've

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Speaker 1: been waiting on. Well, it's here and it's in your face. Hole.

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Speaker 1: It's Friday, July fourteenth, twenty twenty three. Not a great,

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Speaker 1: not a great combat sports weekend ahead of us. But

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Speaker 1: your boys right here are gonna show you what the

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Speaker 1: UBL the upper bound limits of two forty something dads

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Speaker 1: can be getting you excited, entertaining you just the same.

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Speaker 1: Welcome on in. I'm the BBC with that Bde the

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Speaker 1: beij one, the American Alpha, Brian Campbell. You're here though

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Speaker 1: for the guy next to me. Right, he's cantankerous, right,

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Speaker 1: he's he's a lot of things, but he's the best

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Speaker 1: damn analyst today. Thomas.

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Speaker 2: Yes, yes, I'm definitely not, but I have hair that

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Speaker 1: So look, you put the A N A L in analyst.

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Speaker 2: So I had a friend in high school, who on

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Speaker 2: did you ever have to wrap your your textbooks in

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Speaker 1: He's probably the son of the same genius Luke who

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Speaker 1: invented those cocks, remember the white the game hats in

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Speaker 1: the nineties the University of South Carolina Cox. Baby right, this.

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Speaker 2: Will blow you away. He actually works for the Navy

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Speaker 1: I'm sure they propulsed there. Luke, we got a decent

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Speaker 1: show coming your way. Okay, bet look at the biggest

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Speaker 1: topic setting the stage, of course, for that much anticipated

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Speaker 1: UFC fight night this Saturday in the damn Apex Showtime

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Speaker 1: Championship Boxing. A few other scattered lingerers, and how about this,

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Speaker 1: Luke Thomas. In addition to standing trial for dead wrong,

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Speaker 1: today you and I are going to go head to

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Speaker 1: head in sort of a discord mma trivia. But Luke,

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Speaker 1: I gotta I gotta ask you now. We didn't do

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Speaker 1: stakes today and our head to head trivia? I believe

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Speaker 1: it's fourteen questions? Whoever gets the most right will be

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Speaker 2: I actually don't know the answer to that. I thought

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Speaker 2: we were just doing it for fun. Is there?

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Speaker 1: I don't do anything for fun, Luke. That's why I

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Speaker 1: almost get myself punched in basketball games. What about here's

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Speaker 1: what I want for your for your punishment. If you lose,

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Speaker 1: you should have to do the entirety of Monday's MK episode.

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Speaker 1: In that same Fred Durst Red Yankees hat at that

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Speaker 1: to nineteen ninety eight and put on this colored Yankees hat.

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Speaker 1: Get the swap meet loot.

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Speaker 2: No no, no, I got it at it. I got

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Speaker 1: Not enough. Here's what we should do, Luke. We're gonna

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Speaker 1: Can they can? You guys, you know, hit us up

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we'll see what we're doing there, Luke.

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Speaker 1: We've got a Like I mentioned, we got a lot

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Speaker 1: You never ever see Luke in the material, but he

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Speaker 1: the lea. You already saw those social handles there you

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Speaker 1: go right there, Mikey mor Miles, CBS Sports on the

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Speaker 2: Well up on TikTok BC. I'm telling you MK is

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Speaker 1: I'm not gonna do it, Luke, because of what it

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Speaker 1: There are people from my hometown of Naugatuck, Connecticut, Luke,

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Speaker 1: in the in the Ultimate Fighting Championships from the last

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Speaker 1: So it's tough to see that injury, and see that

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Speaker 2: It's done. His achilles is ruptured. Dude. There is no

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Speaker 2: if you don't get it right, it will manifestly impact

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Speaker 2: Out I was about to say, I was about to say, dude,

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Speaker 1: And you know he didn't. I mean, okay, like he

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Speaker 1: I am the champion, Luke. If Prohotska is close, I

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Speaker 1: But Luke, I have to believe if you're the UF

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Speaker 2: I feel like, worst case scenario, it's going to be

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Speaker 1: After that, I think, yeah, well, a wild turn of events.

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Speaker 1: You hate to see it for Jamal Hill, who you

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Speaker 2: It's I don't know how to answer that. I really

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Speaker 2: as shit. You know, there's just a lot of ways.

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Speaker 2: There's just a lot of ways this could go. So

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Speaker 2: you know, some some more than identity, some I don't know,

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Speaker 2: They don't, They don't need him.

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Speaker 2: to that in a year. Some people can't, a lot

427
00:20:31,880 --> 00:20:33,639
Speaker 2: of people can't. It is not a guarantee. And I

428
00:20:33,640 --> 00:20:36,520
Speaker 2: think the UFC was like, dude, we can't wait for that.

429
00:20:36,600 --> 00:20:39,200
Speaker 2: And I understand the UFC's perspective there actually, to be honest,

430
00:20:39,240 --> 00:20:42,040
Speaker 2: we cannot wait for this shit to happen, So let's

431
00:20:42,080 --> 00:20:44,399
Speaker 2: just put it in circulation and you'll get first dips

432
00:20:44,400 --> 00:20:46,240
Speaker 2: when you come back. I think that's pretty fair, to

433
00:20:46,240 --> 00:20:46,720
Speaker 2: be honest with you.

434
00:20:46,800 --> 00:20:49,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, And Jamal Hill did say in his video on

435
00:20:49,080 --> 00:20:51,440
Speaker 1: YouTube that the UFC has promised him a title shot

436
00:20:51,560 --> 00:20:54,280
Speaker 1: upon return. So if that's the deal, you get it.

437
00:20:54,320 --> 00:20:57,040
Speaker 1: We wish Jamal Hill the best, but this wild and

438
00:20:57,080 --> 00:21:00,000
Speaker 1: crazy wide open division is going to stay that way.

439
00:21:00,000 --> 00:21:02,240
Speaker 1: He luke what a time for Poeton. This could be,

440
00:21:02,800 --> 00:21:05,879
Speaker 1: you know, and what makes us crazy is the DDP

441
00:21:06,119 --> 00:21:09,480
Speaker 1: win obviously changes. Is he's direction right, that's going to

442
00:21:09,560 --> 00:21:11,439
Speaker 1: be a big fight we're going to get to. But

443
00:21:11,640 --> 00:21:14,320
Speaker 1: is he's what happens in the meantime, If is he's

444
00:21:14,320 --> 00:21:18,720
Speaker 1: old running mate Alex Padaeda turns this division upside down

445
00:21:18,840 --> 00:21:20,959
Speaker 1: as well. A lot of big fights could be in

446
00:21:21,000 --> 00:21:24,240
Speaker 1: our future, Luke, A lot of big wins, sorry, big

447
00:21:24,280 --> 00:21:26,840
Speaker 1: losses when it's talking about okay bet which is in

448
00:21:26,880 --> 00:21:30,920
Speaker 1: our future right now, Luke, let's look at well. First

449
00:21:30,960 --> 00:21:32,760
Speaker 1: of all, let's go to the opening animation. We go

450
00:21:32,840 --> 00:21:35,640
Speaker 1: head to head each week with five picks in five

451
00:21:35,680 --> 00:21:38,520
Speaker 1: different categories to find out who's worse at betting and

452
00:21:38,520 --> 00:21:41,560
Speaker 1: who has to watch a concert that they hate with

453
00:21:41,680 --> 00:21:44,840
Speaker 1: a documentary crew that no longer exists. This one's called

454
00:21:52,320 --> 00:21:55,520
Speaker 1: There we Go the last week standing exists.

455
00:21:55,880 --> 00:21:57,800
Speaker 2: The documentary crew technically exists.

456
00:21:58,720 --> 00:22:01,320
Speaker 1: Well, Luke, you went three and two last week on

457
00:22:01,440 --> 00:22:05,359
Speaker 1: UFC two ninety weekend. I went two and two because

458
00:22:05,440 --> 00:22:09,320
Speaker 1: Jack Della Maddalena's fight was canceled. He'll be by the

459
00:22:09,320 --> 00:22:12,920
Speaker 1: way in the co main event. Like we prophesized, this

460
00:22:12,960 --> 00:22:16,560
Speaker 1: weekend at UFC Fight Night in the Apex, arguably the

461
00:22:16,640 --> 00:22:20,359
Speaker 1: worst card in modern history, Luke, so I will do

462
00:22:20,400 --> 00:22:23,080
Speaker 1: an extra bonus pick this week in the same category,

463
00:22:23,119 --> 00:22:26,720
Speaker 1: which was KO or SUB, and hopefully that'll bring us

464
00:22:26,760 --> 00:22:29,159
Speaker 1: back even. Here is your updated standings as you briefly

465
00:22:29,200 --> 00:22:33,760
Speaker 1: saw there, Luke forty nine, forty seven and three, BC

466
00:22:33,920 --> 00:22:37,000
Speaker 1: forty three and fifty five. So I'm within striking distance

467
00:22:37,040 --> 00:22:39,800
Speaker 1: here very early in the second half of the year, Luke,

468
00:22:39,800 --> 00:22:44,040
Speaker 1: as the defending reigning CHAMPIONE are you going first or second?

469
00:22:44,359 --> 00:22:46,879
Speaker 2: Yes? I want to remind the audience I am basically

470
00:22:46,960 --> 00:22:50,119
Speaker 2: no better than flipping a coin, and BC is decidedly worse.

471
00:22:50,160 --> 00:22:51,120
Speaker 2: So please to be.

472
00:22:51,119 --> 00:22:53,679
Speaker 1: Fair, Luke, to be fair on that because people have

473
00:22:53,720 --> 00:22:56,320
Speaker 1: criticized this segment a lot of the categories we're picking

474
00:22:56,400 --> 00:22:59,080
Speaker 1: our straight up upset categories like.

475
00:22:59,200 --> 00:23:02,159
Speaker 2: Right, we're not going through the card and being like

476
00:23:02,480 --> 00:23:05,080
Speaker 2: X is gonna win all the way down. We're we're

477
00:23:05,080 --> 00:23:06,840
Speaker 2: playing a game in a way.

478
00:23:07,000 --> 00:23:10,520
Speaker 1: So people have also suggested, Luke that we're allowing ourselves

479
00:23:10,560 --> 00:23:14,080
Speaker 1: on the over under and KO sub too easy of

480
00:23:14,080 --> 00:23:16,400
Speaker 1: a layup potential by not playing the odds.

481
00:23:16,640 --> 00:23:19,200
Speaker 2: I know these people need to blow me because this

482
00:23:19,280 --> 00:23:21,080
Speaker 2: ship is hard and we need it. We need a

483
00:23:21,119 --> 00:23:21,920
Speaker 2: couple of gimmes.

484
00:23:21,960 --> 00:23:24,480
Speaker 1: So they would that you would.

485
00:23:25,880 --> 00:23:29,400
Speaker 2: Use your mouth to do things to me. Okay, there

486
00:23:29,400 --> 00:23:30,600
Speaker 2: you go, that's what I would say. I don't want

487
00:23:30,600 --> 00:23:32,239
Speaker 2: to get fired, all right. You see, if I can

488
00:23:32,280 --> 00:23:36,200
Speaker 2: go first here on on the main card pick, I mean,

489
00:23:36,440 --> 00:23:38,960
Speaker 2: you know, not really a ballsy pick, not really an

490
00:23:39,000 --> 00:23:41,240
Speaker 2: interesting one. I'm just gonna go with Holly Holme.

491
00:23:41,960 --> 00:23:42,080
Speaker 3: Uh.

492
00:23:42,359 --> 00:23:44,600
Speaker 2: You know, Wueno Silva I believe lost him in off

493
00:23:44,600 --> 00:23:46,840
Speaker 2: f R O. Who you know. We're just keeping her

494
00:23:46,880 --> 00:23:48,760
Speaker 2: at distance, kind of kicking her, which is something that

495
00:23:48,800 --> 00:23:52,280
Speaker 2: Holly Holm can do. Holly Holme's got pretty good tickdown defense.

496
00:23:52,320 --> 00:23:55,239
Speaker 2: I do think that if it gets to the ground, uh,

497
00:23:55,560 --> 00:23:58,359
Speaker 2: that Wueno Silva is decidedly better there and that to

498
00:23:58,400 --> 00:24:00,400
Speaker 2: me would not in any way be surprising. She can

499
00:24:00,440 --> 00:24:02,359
Speaker 2: get the fight to the ground and then you know,

500
00:24:02,760 --> 00:24:04,480
Speaker 2: work from there. But I don't know if she can.

501
00:24:04,600 --> 00:24:06,359
Speaker 2: I think Holly, even at age forty one, it's a

502
00:24:06,400 --> 00:24:09,320
Speaker 2: pretty good athlete. So yeah, not an interesting pick, not

503
00:24:09,359 --> 00:24:11,560
Speaker 2: an interesting fight. But I'm going to take Holly Holm

504
00:24:11,640 --> 00:24:12,639
Speaker 2: in the main event. Good sir.

505
00:24:13,520 --> 00:24:15,720
Speaker 1: I like that you did that, Luke, because It challenged

506
00:24:15,720 --> 00:24:18,760
Speaker 1: me to be bold, be different and stop getting you know,

507
00:24:19,040 --> 00:24:21,920
Speaker 1: stalemate picks against you. And as I look at Myra

508
00:24:22,200 --> 00:24:25,640
Speaker 1: Bueno Silva's odds here at plus one sixty against Holly Holme,

509
00:24:26,040 --> 00:24:28,800
Speaker 1: I started thinking about things, Luke. Holly Holm is getting

510
00:24:28,840 --> 00:24:32,440
Speaker 1: heavily criticized on the second half of this run where

511
00:24:32,440 --> 00:24:35,080
Speaker 1: she's staying very relevant in a weak division at forty one,

512
00:24:35,119 --> 00:24:36,640
Speaker 1: and a lot of people are saying, look, all she's

513
00:24:36,640 --> 00:24:38,439
Speaker 1: doing is holding against the cage.

514
00:24:38,440 --> 00:24:38,639
Speaker 3: You know.

515
00:24:38,840 --> 00:24:41,879
Speaker 1: Yeah, she's doing more, you know, grappling and takedowns, but

516
00:24:41,920 --> 00:24:45,400
Speaker 1: it's not really leading in to anything. It's very strategic, Luke.

517
00:24:45,480 --> 00:24:49,919
Speaker 1: We have seen her in big moments come up surprisingly empty.

518
00:24:50,240 --> 00:24:54,720
Speaker 1: I'm referencing, for example, the featherweight title fight against Jermaine Durandomy,

519
00:24:54,760 --> 00:24:57,720
Speaker 1: which we all kind of predicted and expected Holly to

520
00:24:57,760 --> 00:25:00,199
Speaker 1: win to set up a cyborg fight and and it,

521
00:25:00,640 --> 00:25:03,359
Speaker 1: you know, she came up very empty and kind of

522
00:25:03,400 --> 00:25:05,280
Speaker 1: dropped the ball that night. We've seen it before. Is

523
00:25:05,280 --> 00:25:07,879
Speaker 1: there a potential here with all the uncertainty in this

524
00:25:07,960 --> 00:25:10,359
Speaker 1: division where Home comes out plays it a little bit

525
00:25:10,400 --> 00:25:12,919
Speaker 1: too safe as she has of late, And considering as

526
00:25:12,960 --> 00:25:15,399
Speaker 1: you mentioned, Silva's on a three fight win streak, the

527
00:25:15,440 --> 00:25:17,760
Speaker 1: last two by submission. She can be a threat here,

528
00:25:18,440 --> 00:25:23,200
Speaker 1: can Silva equally being a stinker here with Holly Holm,

529
00:25:23,760 --> 00:25:27,440
Speaker 1: but outstink her in terms of control and timely striking

530
00:25:28,480 --> 00:25:32,560
Speaker 1: to pull a home versus GDR esque lame decision out

531
00:25:32,560 --> 00:25:35,000
Speaker 1: of here where nothing really advances. Well, here's we got

532
00:25:35,000 --> 00:25:38,480
Speaker 1: to ask ourselves here, Luke. This is Silva's opportunity, her

533
00:25:38,560 --> 00:25:41,359
Speaker 1: first really big opportunity to do something major. We don't

534
00:25:41,359 --> 00:25:43,680
Speaker 1: know what the future of the title is in this division.

535
00:25:43,840 --> 00:25:45,720
Speaker 1: Who's gonna fight for it? I mean, does this fight

536
00:25:45,720 --> 00:25:49,639
Speaker 1: being booked tell you it's probably Rocky Pennington versus Juliana Panna.

537
00:25:49,720 --> 00:25:51,840
Speaker 1: I mean, I guess, but it's not like people are

538
00:25:51,840 --> 00:25:53,040
Speaker 1: going to be going out of their way to see

539
00:25:53,040 --> 00:25:55,600
Speaker 1: that on a pay per view either. This could be

540
00:25:55,960 --> 00:25:59,720
Speaker 1: Myra Bueno Silva's chance to really crash the party and

541
00:25:59,760 --> 00:26:03,359
Speaker 1: make some difficult decisions happen. I'm gonna take her with

542
00:26:03,400 --> 00:26:05,960
Speaker 1: the plus money here to do that. Home is steady

543
00:26:06,200 --> 00:26:09,280
Speaker 1: and solid, but if we're being honest, she hasn't been

544
00:26:10,359 --> 00:26:11,960
Speaker 1: him the next level in a while, Luke, I mean

545
00:26:11,960 --> 00:26:13,920
Speaker 1: that Meg and Anderson win still stands up as being

546
00:26:14,000 --> 00:26:16,000
Speaker 1: solid a bunch of years back. And you know, if

547
00:26:16,359 --> 00:26:19,199
Speaker 1: if Betchkohy is gonna run into her with the with

548
00:26:19,240 --> 00:26:21,120
Speaker 1: the hands down like that, she can still head kick

549
00:26:21,119 --> 00:26:23,560
Speaker 1: her out of there. But sometimes she plays it a

550
00:26:23,600 --> 00:26:27,560
Speaker 1: little bit too safe. Let's give Mary Maira Ira Bueno

551
00:26:27,640 --> 00:26:29,760
Speaker 1: Silva a chance to have her moment here, Luke, I'm

552
00:26:29,760 --> 00:26:31,600
Speaker 1: gonna take that. What a shitty cart? Are we really

553
00:26:31,640 --> 00:26:32,840
Speaker 1: doing this right now? Wow? Okay?

554
00:26:32,880 --> 00:26:36,280
Speaker 2: Yeah? By the way, you think she can follow GDR's game.

555
00:26:36,119 --> 00:26:39,600
Speaker 1: Plan, not necessarily the game plan, but it's like I've

556
00:26:39,680 --> 00:26:42,520
Speaker 1: seen Home in a big spot before a couple of times,

557
00:26:42,600 --> 00:26:46,000
Speaker 1: you know, come up kind of disappointingly empty. Luke, what

558
00:26:46,080 --> 00:26:48,480
Speaker 1: if Silva makes this a real fight, what if Sylvia

559
00:26:48,480 --> 00:26:50,040
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? Or what if she has

560
00:26:50,040 --> 00:26:51,520
Speaker 1: her own moments of control.

561
00:26:51,840 --> 00:26:54,040
Speaker 2: I don't think she can follow the GDR game plan.

562
00:26:54,160 --> 00:26:56,560
Speaker 2: But at the same time I take your point that, like,

563
00:26:57,800 --> 00:27:00,159
Speaker 2: do I have like high confidence in Holly Holm in

564
00:27:00,200 --> 00:27:00,719
Speaker 2: this regard?

565
00:27:00,840 --> 00:27:04,000
Speaker 1: Probably she just lost the decision to Kelyn Viena in

566
00:27:04,000 --> 00:27:06,640
Speaker 1: a fight that wasn't awesome. Right, It's it's there, It's

567
00:27:06,680 --> 00:27:08,159
Speaker 1: there for you if you're gonna go out there.

568
00:27:08,160 --> 00:27:09,800
Speaker 2: I agree the odds are pretty close too, by the way,

569
00:27:09,800 --> 00:27:12,680
Speaker 2: so it's not like a runaway okay for my underdog

570
00:27:12,800 --> 00:27:16,080
Speaker 2: pick BC. I wasn't exactly sure which way to go

571
00:27:16,240 --> 00:27:20,280
Speaker 2: on this one. I might be making a mistake because

572
00:27:20,280 --> 00:27:23,960
Speaker 2: his opponent is in uzbek In Nazim Satakhov or how

573
00:27:24,040 --> 00:27:25,680
Speaker 2: you pronounce his last name. But I'm gonna go with

574
00:27:25,760 --> 00:27:28,679
Speaker 2: Terrence McKinnie. He's my underdog here. The odds makers are

575
00:27:28,720 --> 00:27:32,280
Speaker 2: friends over at Caesars. They've got him. Let me pull

576
00:27:32,359 --> 00:27:35,360
Speaker 2: up the numbers here. They've got him at a slight

577
00:27:35,560 --> 00:27:40,359
Speaker 2: underdog plus one twenty five to Satakov's or how you

578
00:27:40,400 --> 00:27:43,359
Speaker 2: pronounce it, minus one fifty, not a tremendous one. I

579
00:27:43,400 --> 00:27:45,520
Speaker 2: know he's coming off the Bond theme loss, which was

580
00:27:45,560 --> 00:27:48,639
Speaker 2: a terrible one for him. But Terrence mckennie, still heavy handed,

581
00:27:48,720 --> 00:27:50,960
Speaker 2: still gets after it. I guess the guy who doesn't

582
00:27:51,000 --> 00:27:53,360
Speaker 2: have a ton of experience, he's gonna get blitzed on.

583
00:27:53,480 --> 00:27:57,000
Speaker 2: McKenny can thump. He's he's got fast hands. He gets

584
00:27:57,040 --> 00:27:59,520
Speaker 2: right after it. I understand him being the underdog, but

585
00:27:59,520 --> 00:28:01,960
Speaker 2: says we're picking an underdog here. I don't know. I

586
00:28:02,480 --> 00:28:04,880
Speaker 2: think he's worth taking a flyer on. I don't normally

587
00:28:04,880 --> 00:28:06,440
Speaker 2: get these piccks right, although I got the one right

588
00:28:06,520 --> 00:28:10,280
Speaker 2: last week in Robbie Lawler. So give me that Lawlor energy.

589
00:28:10,280 --> 00:28:11,560
Speaker 2: Carrying over to Terrence McKinney.

590
00:28:11,840 --> 00:28:14,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, McKinney has been stopped two times in the last

591
00:28:14,760 --> 00:28:17,600
Speaker 1: three fights, last sixteen months, but he goes after it.

592
00:28:17,640 --> 00:28:19,320
Speaker 1: I mean he's a tough guy to bet on because

593
00:28:19,320 --> 00:28:21,880
Speaker 1: he goes big, Luke, and that that can that can

594
00:28:21,920 --> 00:28:24,160
Speaker 1: be you know, a big breakthrough win, or that can

595
00:28:24,200 --> 00:28:27,360
Speaker 1: be another sort of humbling, disastrous ending there. I don't

596
00:28:27,359 --> 00:28:30,120
Speaker 1: hate that. Pick my what you went underdog here, Luke.

597
00:28:30,119 --> 00:28:32,280
Speaker 1: You always flipped underdog in favorite. It's weird we go

598
00:28:32,320 --> 00:28:34,439
Speaker 1: favorite first. I don't I don't understand that. But I'm

599
00:28:34,440 --> 00:28:35,760
Speaker 1: gonna go to underdog here, Luke.

600
00:28:35,800 --> 00:28:37,840
Speaker 2: I'm feeling margaritas, I think.

601
00:28:37,880 --> 00:28:39,440
Speaker 1: So I'm gonna take the two zero nine here. I'm

602
00:28:39,440 --> 00:28:43,320
Speaker 1: gonna take Chelsea Chandler at plus one twenty against Norma Dumont.

603
00:28:43,400 --> 00:28:45,720
Speaker 1: Is this the last fight in women's featherweight history? I

604
00:28:45,760 --> 00:28:48,800
Speaker 1: don't know, Luke, but you know that there really isn't

605
00:28:48,800 --> 00:28:50,440
Speaker 1: a ton at steak here. We don't know if this

606
00:28:50,520 --> 00:28:53,480
Speaker 1: division is even going forward? Is normal? Dumont the better

607
00:28:53,520 --> 00:28:56,360
Speaker 1: fighter on paper from what we've known and seen. She's steady,

608
00:28:56,400 --> 00:28:59,480
Speaker 1: she's solid. I can argue with that. But Chandler at

609
00:28:59,520 --> 00:29:01,840
Speaker 1: twenty nine and Luke has been, you know, trying to

610
00:29:01,880 --> 00:29:03,760
Speaker 1: be bold of late in the in the way she

611
00:29:03,840 --> 00:29:06,000
Speaker 1: can come out of the DS army. She made those

612
00:29:06,200 --> 00:29:09,760
Speaker 1: comments that Rousey's coming back at one five and then

613
00:29:09,920 --> 00:29:12,320
Speaker 1: Ariel had to shoot those down. But she has won

614
00:29:12,400 --> 00:29:15,640
Speaker 1: five in a row. She won hers UFC debut by

615
00:29:15,720 --> 00:29:19,280
Speaker 1: first round TKO in October of last year against Stoli Orenko.

616
00:29:19,920 --> 00:29:22,600
Speaker 1: Give me Chelsea Chandler in the two oh nine, Luke

617
00:29:22,640 --> 00:29:24,520
Speaker 1: to make some noise and give me an upset pick

618
00:29:24,560 --> 00:29:27,280
Speaker 1: here at plus one twenty. Yeah, I got that. I

619
00:29:27,320 --> 00:29:29,120
Speaker 1: got that shit. I know what I'm doing, all right.

620
00:29:30,280 --> 00:29:34,320
Speaker 2: So for favorites, BC, you can't go crazy. So for example,

621
00:29:34,400 --> 00:29:37,120
Speaker 2: I none of us picked to Jack Dala Madelena, right,

622
00:29:37,160 --> 00:29:39,200
Speaker 2: he couldn't pick him as a favorite, even though Caesars

623
00:29:39,200 --> 00:29:41,800
Speaker 2: has him as a minus five hundred. I'm surprised it's

624
00:29:41,800 --> 00:29:43,440
Speaker 2: not even bigger than that, to be honest with you.

625
00:29:43,960 --> 00:29:47,240
Speaker 2: But okay, neither here nor there in my particular case, BC,

626
00:29:47,720 --> 00:29:49,640
Speaker 2: let me pull up my notes here. I am going

627
00:29:49,720 --> 00:29:52,840
Speaker 2: to go with taking a flyer for my favorite on

628
00:29:52,960 --> 00:29:57,840
Speaker 2: Alexander Munos. Alexander Munos in this particular regard, again, let

629
00:29:57,920 --> 00:30:01,520
Speaker 2: me pull up my notes here. Not exactly like blowing

630
00:30:01,560 --> 00:30:05,160
Speaker 2: me away, per se. Carl Deaton, his opponent has a

631
00:30:05,200 --> 00:30:09,480
Speaker 2: lot more experience, has an interesting look and whatnot. But

632
00:30:10,400 --> 00:30:13,760
Speaker 2: Muno's or Muno however he pronounces it. You know, I

633
00:30:13,840 --> 00:30:16,400
Speaker 2: understand he's coming off of two losses, but against much

634
00:30:16,440 --> 00:30:18,720
Speaker 2: better opposition. I would say this one and to me

635
00:30:18,840 --> 00:30:21,560
Speaker 2: is a bit of a step down Carl again relative

636
00:30:21,600 --> 00:30:24,200
Speaker 2: to who he has been fighting against. And yes, it's

637
00:30:24,240 --> 00:30:27,360
Speaker 2: true that Deeton's coming off of a loss to Joe Sileski,

638
00:30:27,400 --> 00:30:30,680
Speaker 2: who is really really good in his only UFC fight

639
00:30:30,760 --> 00:30:34,040
Speaker 2: to date. I just feel like Muno's a little bit

640
00:30:34,040 --> 00:30:36,240
Speaker 2: more physical the two, probably a better wrestler of the two,

641
00:30:36,320 --> 00:30:39,040
Speaker 2: and that's gonna matter in the end. So give me Munnos.

642
00:30:39,440 --> 00:30:41,960
Speaker 1: Interesting, Luke, I like what you've done there. We'll see

643
00:30:42,000 --> 00:30:44,520
Speaker 1: if that plays out for you. For my favorite, Luke,

644
00:30:44,560 --> 00:30:46,040
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go in an interesting one here. It's the

645
00:30:46,080 --> 00:30:48,680
Speaker 1: curtain jerker of the night on the prelim card Women's

646
00:30:48,720 --> 00:30:51,920
Speaker 1: bandonmweight division. Not a lot of fanfare on this one. Luke,

647
00:30:51,960 --> 00:30:54,560
Speaker 1: but Aileen Perez. How would you pronounce a L L

648
00:30:54,720 --> 00:30:58,640
Speaker 1: I N for a female? Is that Aileen? Aileen? Eileen,

649
00:30:58,840 --> 00:31:02,760
Speaker 1: Eileen Luke. She goes by the nickname Fiona. She's seven

650
00:31:02,800 --> 00:31:06,120
Speaker 1: and two, but did lose her UFC debut by second

651
00:31:06,200 --> 00:31:10,040
Speaker 1: round rear Naked Choke against Stephanie Egger last September. But

652
00:31:10,400 --> 00:31:13,600
Speaker 1: Luke Thomas. She is as a minus two twenty betting

653
00:31:13,640 --> 00:31:17,680
Speaker 1: favorite against thirty six year old Ashley Evan Smith, who's

654
00:31:17,720 --> 00:31:20,560
Speaker 1: coming in having lost four of her last five. And

655
00:31:20,640 --> 00:31:23,480
Speaker 1: you could argue, Luke, it's winner go home here. I'm

656
00:31:23,480 --> 00:31:25,760
Speaker 1: gonna take the younger, fresher fighter, though, I mean Ashley

657
00:31:25,800 --> 00:31:29,440
Speaker 1: Evan Smith makes an interesting podcast asking sexual questions of

658
00:31:29,480 --> 00:31:32,360
Speaker 1: fighters I follow on Instagram. Luke, but I can't listen

659
00:31:32,400 --> 00:31:33,880
Speaker 1: to the whole thing. It gets too deep. It's like

660
00:31:33,920 --> 00:31:35,800
Speaker 1: too much info. I didn't sign up for this only.

661
00:31:36,000 --> 00:31:38,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, how much of them is like angry sex is

662
00:31:38,560 --> 00:31:40,880
Speaker 2: like therapy for whatever the hell happened.

663
00:31:41,080 --> 00:31:43,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, I realized I didn't actually want to be there

664
00:31:43,480 --> 00:31:45,160
Speaker 1: and I got out of it. But I think she's

665
00:31:45,200 --> 00:31:48,680
Speaker 1: gonna lose. Give me Eileen Alan Perez minus two twenty here,

666
00:31:48,760 --> 00:31:50,960
Speaker 1: I'm trying to win this competition, Luke, there you go.

667
00:31:51,320 --> 00:31:54,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's pronounced just like we would pronounce eileen, but

668
00:31:54,320 --> 00:31:56,680
Speaker 2: we just don't spell it that way. But they they

669
00:31:57,000 --> 00:31:59,880
Speaker 2: changed the spelling to like make it sound like the

670
00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:02,880
Speaker 2: English word eileen. I told you, bro, like they like,

671
00:32:02,920 --> 00:32:06,560
Speaker 2: you'll see Yessica's in Colombia, but they pronounce it Jessica.

672
00:32:06,760 --> 00:32:10,200
Speaker 1: You know, yeah, you see you see Juareggi's they pronounce

673
00:32:10,240 --> 00:32:12,880
Speaker 1: it horror guy, I know, Luke, right, the Portuguese own

674
00:32:12,960 --> 00:32:15,640
Speaker 1: all though I've been up and down this, yeah.

675
00:32:15,200 --> 00:32:20,600
Speaker 2: All right, we're doing just to clarify, we're doing over undernext, right, Yeah, yeah,

676
00:32:20,640 --> 00:32:22,920
Speaker 2: I mean BC, this is the easiest thing in the world.

677
00:32:22,960 --> 00:32:25,240
Speaker 2: This is something we've been whiffing on the entire time.

678
00:32:25,760 --> 00:32:27,360
Speaker 2: If you want to pick a fight that's going to

679
00:32:27,400 --> 00:32:30,520
Speaker 2: go the distance, in all likelihood, a women's bantamweight or

680
00:32:30,600 --> 00:32:33,760
Speaker 2: women's featherweight fight is probably going to go the distance, especially.

681
00:32:33,520 --> 00:32:35,880
Speaker 1: For you can have respect for yourself, Luke, in respect

682
00:32:35,920 --> 00:32:39,960
Speaker 1: for true competition and not not try to cherry pick

683
00:32:40,000 --> 00:32:41,760
Speaker 1: with the lead constantly.

684
00:32:42,200 --> 00:32:44,280
Speaker 2: Terrific with what with the lead?

685
00:32:44,480 --> 00:32:46,400
Speaker 1: You're like, not only am I in first place in

686
00:32:46,440 --> 00:32:49,280
Speaker 1: this week competition here where we're not doing well, I'm

687
00:32:49,320 --> 00:32:51,240
Speaker 1: going to try to take as many women's fights that

688
00:32:51,280 --> 00:32:52,560
Speaker 1: won't go the distance as I can.

689
00:32:53,280 --> 00:32:55,560
Speaker 2: Well, I'm predicting that it will go the distance.

690
00:32:55,360 --> 00:32:57,880
Speaker 1: Right because statistically it's like seventy something percent.

691
00:32:58,000 --> 00:33:00,320
Speaker 2: Right, that's right. I'm going to sand bag in this

692
00:33:00,360 --> 00:33:02,880
Speaker 2: category because the other one they do, having to pick

693
00:33:02,920 --> 00:33:05,200
Speaker 2: an underdog every week when you're not good at betting

694
00:33:05,280 --> 00:33:07,160
Speaker 2: is very difficult. Like that thing.

695
00:33:07,080 --> 00:33:09,760
Speaker 1: Comes not that hardly, really not that hard. You just do.

696
00:33:09,760 --> 00:33:13,280
Speaker 2: It as the guy who's forty three and fifty five.

697
00:33:13,360 --> 00:33:15,240
Speaker 2: You're literally worse than seping a coin.

698
00:33:15,640 --> 00:33:18,000
Speaker 1: I still sleep at night. You sound like you always

699
00:33:18,040 --> 00:33:20,120
Speaker 1: sound so upset. You're like, you know, they have rules

700
00:33:20,120 --> 00:33:22,160
Speaker 1: in this segment where I can't pick somebody who's minus

701
00:33:22,160 --> 00:33:24,040
Speaker 1: seven hundreds. Like remember we used to do those h

702
00:33:24,120 --> 00:33:26,160
Speaker 1: Q hits and they'd be like, Luke, what's your lock

703
00:33:26,240 --> 00:33:28,480
Speaker 1: of the week And you'd be like, sorry, I don't

704
00:33:28,480 --> 00:33:29,920
Speaker 1: you guys don't want me to do this, but I'm

705
00:33:29,960 --> 00:33:31,960
Speaker 1: gonna pick a minus twelve hundred favorite is.

706
00:33:31,960 --> 00:33:33,600
Speaker 2: My locker week, that's my lock of the week.

707
00:33:34,000 --> 00:33:36,120
Speaker 1: That's not the point of that. The point of that is,

708
00:33:36,160 --> 00:33:38,640
Speaker 1: like where can somebody potentially make money that you're really

709
00:33:38,680 --> 00:33:39,760
Speaker 1: confident is gonna happen.

710
00:33:40,120 --> 00:33:43,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm not. I don't. I'm not confident on not

711
00:33:43,040 --> 00:33:45,719
Speaker 2: betting picks or just straight up and down picks. MMA

712
00:33:45,760 --> 00:33:46,440
Speaker 2: is volatile.

713
00:33:46,560 --> 00:33:48,600
Speaker 1: I know you have, you have gaps, you have, you

714
00:33:48,600 --> 00:33:49,920
Speaker 1: have blind but tell me.

715
00:33:49,840 --> 00:33:52,280
Speaker 2: It is it is, it is. It sounds fun for

716
00:33:52,360 --> 00:33:54,000
Speaker 2: air to do, which is what we're doing. We're having

717
00:33:54,040 --> 00:33:55,000
Speaker 2: fun with none of those.

718
00:33:55,000 --> 00:33:57,440
Speaker 1: Really, you're pissing on the You're turning the segment into

719
00:33:57,440 --> 00:33:59,480
Speaker 1: a urinal cake by showing that you don't care.

720
00:33:59,840 --> 00:34:02,840
Speaker 2: Well, well, maybe the segment's ideas are not that interesting

721
00:34:03,760 --> 00:34:06,040
Speaker 2: for me. It's like asking people to predict the future

722
00:34:06,080 --> 00:34:09,520
Speaker 2: unless they're exceptionally good at it is not an effective

723
00:34:09,600 --> 00:34:10,080
Speaker 2: use of time.

724
00:34:10,160 --> 00:34:11,960
Speaker 1: That's just me thinking I could see that if your

725
00:34:12,000 --> 00:34:15,560
Speaker 1: counter wasn't you know, what's interesting? Picking minus eight hundred favorites.

726
00:34:15,600 --> 00:34:16,560
Speaker 1: That's that's interesting.

727
00:34:16,600 --> 00:34:18,520
Speaker 2: I mean that is also stupid. I mean, I want

728
00:34:18,520 --> 00:34:20,239
Speaker 2: to be clear. I mean there's no point to that either.

729
00:34:20,320 --> 00:34:21,800
Speaker 2: But I just really feel like a lot of people

730
00:34:21,800 --> 00:34:23,719
Speaker 2: in the space like to say what they know is

731
00:34:23,719 --> 00:34:25,600
Speaker 2: going to happen in games or in fights, and the

732
00:34:25,680 --> 00:34:27,320
Speaker 2: basket joy at the time. They have no fucking idea,

733
00:34:27,440 --> 00:34:30,640
Speaker 2: so neither here nor there. Here is my best guess

734
00:34:30,640 --> 00:34:34,000
Speaker 2: for over under. Give me Dumont and Chandler Norman Dumont

735
00:34:34,000 --> 00:34:35,880
Speaker 2: and Chandler going the distance. B see you feel like

736
00:34:35,920 --> 00:34:40,840
Speaker 2: that's a very safe sand bag e pick. Also like

737
00:34:40,920 --> 00:34:41,520
Speaker 2: my balls.

738
00:34:42,000 --> 00:34:44,560
Speaker 1: When I take over first place in this competition, Luke,

739
00:34:44,840 --> 00:34:48,439
Speaker 1: I will be betting only only UFC women's fights, taking

740
00:34:48,520 --> 00:34:53,359
Speaker 1: all layups the rest of the way because I Luke. Yeah, no, obviously, Luke,

741
00:34:53,360 --> 00:34:55,800
Speaker 1: comic competitor. Okay, I want to step on your throat

742
00:34:55,800 --> 00:34:57,920
Speaker 1: the proper way. Thank you. Let's go over to my

743
00:34:58,040 --> 00:35:00,080
Speaker 1: over under. I'm gonna go to the Showtime champ be

744
00:35:00,080 --> 00:35:01,759
Speaker 1: in your boxing main event. We'll have more on this

745
00:35:01,800 --> 00:35:04,880
Speaker 1: shortly to preview it. But give me lightweight Frank Martin

746
00:35:05,400 --> 00:35:10,240
Speaker 1: to not go the distance against Artem Harrtunian, the German

747
00:35:11,520 --> 00:35:15,040
Speaker 1: German living Armenian. Luke, I'm gonna take the under on

748
00:35:15,160 --> 00:35:18,160
Speaker 1: that fight. We'll get to more of those specifics coming up.

749
00:35:18,200 --> 00:35:19,520
Speaker 1: What's your KO or sub.

750
00:35:19,400 --> 00:35:23,040
Speaker 2: Pick another one, just gonna sandbag the balls off of

751
00:35:23,080 --> 00:35:26,760
Speaker 2: this one. Give me Dala Madelena Hafez ending in KO.

752
00:35:28,239 --> 00:35:32,239
Speaker 1: All right, Well, Luke, I looked up, Well, I'm trying

753
00:35:32,239 --> 00:35:35,200
Speaker 1: to win this. So I was like, hey, Jack, Bob

754
00:35:35,280 --> 00:35:38,160
Speaker 1: Dobbelina is coming off of submission win in the UFC.

755
00:35:38,280 --> 00:35:43,719
Speaker 1: Give Medla Maddelena versus Jafes to end in submission, Luke.

756
00:35:43,800 --> 00:35:44,919
Speaker 1: So I'm trying.

757
00:35:45,040 --> 00:35:47,080
Speaker 2: Okay, that's an interesting one. I like that pick.

758
00:35:48,320 --> 00:35:50,520
Speaker 1: And my bonus pick on Ko or something to make

759
00:35:50,560 --> 00:35:53,839
Speaker 1: up for Jack last week is going to be a

760
00:35:54,080 --> 00:35:58,799
Speaker 1: Ko Luke in the Otman Isatar Francisco Prado fight.

761
00:36:00,200 --> 00:36:04,879
Speaker 2: Okay, it's actually some bet the brothers are. They are

762
00:36:04,960 --> 00:36:05,520
Speaker 2: wild men.

763
00:36:06,000 --> 00:36:09,360
Speaker 1: They are bangers, Luke. They are bangers. But Luke, you

764
00:36:09,400 --> 00:36:12,680
Speaker 1: know we have it's you know, more than halfway through

765
00:36:12,719 --> 00:36:15,800
Speaker 1: the year and you talked about me looking nice in

766
00:36:15,880 --> 00:36:18,320
Speaker 1: this medium T shirt. Luke, And since the beginning of

767
00:36:18,320 --> 00:36:21,200
Speaker 1: the year, I've got to tell you my fitness journey

768
00:36:21,280 --> 00:36:24,960
Speaker 1: has had its ups and downs. But Luke, with Fitbod,

769
00:36:25,880 --> 00:36:29,360
Speaker 1: I can build a dynamic workout catered to whatever fitness

770
00:36:29,440 --> 00:36:30,799
Speaker 1: level I'm currently at.

771
00:36:31,320 --> 00:36:33,839
Speaker 2: That's right. You see, smart technology is all around us.

772
00:36:33,880 --> 00:36:36,080
Speaker 2: You wouldn't use a printed map when you have your

773
00:36:36,120 --> 00:36:39,560
Speaker 2: phone GPS, right, So using technology to improve your workout

774
00:36:39,960 --> 00:36:44,080
Speaker 2: is the same thing. Basically, Fitbot's technology improves my workout

775
00:36:44,120 --> 00:36:45,719
Speaker 2: by creating routines I can stick to.

776
00:36:46,360 --> 00:36:48,799
Speaker 1: And sometimes when we're working, Luke or out of fight

777
00:36:49,280 --> 00:36:51,839
Speaker 1: or just living life, I can often forget the types

778
00:36:51,880 --> 00:36:53,960
Speaker 1: of workouts I need to do at the gym, and

779
00:36:54,000 --> 00:36:56,480
Speaker 1: this app helps me keep track of that of what

780
00:36:56,640 --> 00:36:59,200
Speaker 1: I need to exactly work on to not look washed.

781
00:37:00,239 --> 00:37:02,440
Speaker 2: That is true. What's great is that the workouts on

782
00:37:02,480 --> 00:37:04,960
Speaker 2: the app improve as you get better. That's such a

783
00:37:04,960 --> 00:37:08,000
Speaker 2: cool feature. And it understands your abilities and studies past

784
00:37:08,000 --> 00:37:10,799
Speaker 2: workouts and adapts to the equipment that you have available

785
00:37:11,120 --> 00:37:13,000
Speaker 2: in your front yard like a real man.

786
00:37:13,400 --> 00:37:15,799
Speaker 1: Yeah, the real one. But Luke, doesn't this make like

787
00:37:15,920 --> 00:37:19,560
Speaker 1: all gym sessions suddenly fresh and fun by mixing it up?

788
00:37:19,600 --> 00:37:20,279
Speaker 1: Would you say that?

789
00:37:20,560 --> 00:37:22,560
Speaker 2: On the right hard I would say that you can

790
00:37:22,600 --> 00:37:25,279
Speaker 2: create a personalized workout plan design for your fitness level

791
00:37:25,320 --> 00:37:27,080
Speaker 2: and goals, and fit bod is easy because you can

792
00:37:27,120 --> 00:37:30,480
Speaker 2: never excuse me. You can also view over fourteen hundred

793
00:37:31,120 --> 00:37:34,279
Speaker 2: exercise demonstration videos. You can learn all of the right

794
00:37:34,320 --> 00:37:36,239
Speaker 2: movements right there on your phone, and.

795
00:37:36,280 --> 00:37:38,640
Speaker 1: Luke, you can track all your damn achievements right on

796
00:37:38,760 --> 00:37:41,840
Speaker 1: the app. You can build your fitness habit and stay

797
00:37:41,880 --> 00:37:45,440
Speaker 1: consistent all summer long, because Luke, it's time to take

798
00:37:45,480 --> 00:37:49,080
Speaker 1: that t shirt off. Summer sison is here. Okay, okay,

799
00:37:49,440 --> 00:37:51,640
Speaker 1: it's time. It's time for you to show the world

800
00:37:51,760 --> 00:37:52,920
Speaker 1: all of your chest tats.

801
00:37:54,000 --> 00:37:56,000
Speaker 2: Oh, by the way, I booked an appointment September seventh,

802
00:37:56,040 --> 00:37:59,120
Speaker 2: your boys getting another tattoo. So there were where Luke

803
00:37:59,440 --> 00:38:01,600
Speaker 2: on the inside out of the arm here, what are

804
00:38:01,640 --> 00:38:03,759
Speaker 2: you going to get? I am going to get a

805
00:38:04,400 --> 00:38:06,440
Speaker 2: American traditional knife through a rose.

806
00:38:07,440 --> 00:38:09,879
Speaker 1: Wow. It's very violent and loving at the same time

807
00:38:09,920 --> 00:38:12,600
Speaker 1: of you you know, you know, yeah, I heard Luke

808
00:38:12,680 --> 00:38:13,239
Speaker 1: that that.

809
00:38:16,239 --> 00:38:22,120
Speaker 4: Sorry I dropped my joke and trying to pick it up, Luke, I, Luke,

810
00:38:22,160 --> 00:38:25,759
Speaker 4: I heard that you like pleasure spiked with pain in

811
00:38:25,880 --> 00:38:29,480
Speaker 4: that uh, hardcore death metal music is your aeroplane.

812
00:38:29,520 --> 00:38:33,480
Speaker 2: Aeroplane, yes, last, but not least. BC just want to

813
00:38:33,480 --> 00:38:35,880
Speaker 2: remind folks you know you can track all your cheatments

814
00:38:35,880 --> 00:38:38,160
Speaker 2: on the app. Keep your fitness habit, and stay consistent

815
00:38:38,200 --> 00:38:41,040
Speaker 2: all summer long. So wherever you are in your fitness journey,

816
00:38:41,120 --> 00:38:43,879
Speaker 2: get the most out of every workout with Fitbod. Isn't

817
00:38:43,920 --> 00:38:44,439
Speaker 2: that right? BC?

818
00:38:44,840 --> 00:38:47,239
Speaker 1: Yeah? Why don't you get twenty percent off your subscription

819
00:38:47,320 --> 00:38:49,440
Speaker 1: right now by going to fit bod. That's f I

820
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Speaker 1: T b O D dot me E slash combat with

821
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Speaker 1: a k FITBOD dot m E slash combat.

822
00:38:57,920 --> 00:38:59,920
Speaker 2: Yes, f I T B O D. There you go,

823
00:39:00,040 --> 00:39:03,920
Speaker 2: whole thing you see. Would you like to know that

824
00:39:04,440 --> 00:39:07,120
Speaker 2: I am now working out in my front yard more

825
00:39:07,160 --> 00:39:09,880
Speaker 2: than ever? But here is the catch. Here's the catch.

826
00:39:11,520 --> 00:39:13,520
Speaker 2: I have been getting up at like four thirty in

827
00:39:13,560 --> 00:39:15,879
Speaker 2: the morning to go do it. So the only other

828
00:39:15,920 --> 00:39:18,360
Speaker 2: people out are people like running with their dogs.

829
00:39:18,360 --> 00:39:21,120
Speaker 1: Okay, shit, okay, let's get this right here. It's already

830
00:39:21,120 --> 00:39:22,839
Speaker 1: weird enough that you work out in the front yard

831
00:39:23,000 --> 00:39:25,319
Speaker 1: in a city. It's not like you live on a

832
00:39:25,360 --> 00:39:27,960
Speaker 1: farm and with Bryce Mitchell and his trailer and you're

833
00:39:28,000 --> 00:39:30,640
Speaker 1: just out there picking up hay bales over your head

834
00:39:30,760 --> 00:39:33,359
Speaker 1: with purple stains on your shoulders as you pull out

835
00:39:33,360 --> 00:39:37,319
Speaker 1: of fights. Luke, you're waking up at four thirty in

836
00:39:37,400 --> 00:39:39,480
Speaker 1: a city where there's people living close by up in

837
00:39:39,480 --> 00:39:43,400
Speaker 1: the window, and you're like clanging waits together like a

838
00:39:43,520 --> 00:39:47,879
Speaker 1: loud posh, not caring of Luke, do you not have

839
00:39:48,200 --> 00:39:52,120
Speaker 1: self respect for the decency of what that tells to

840
00:39:52,120 --> 00:39:56,239
Speaker 1: people that their sleep patterns. Mean shit, mean shit to you.

841
00:39:56,760 --> 00:39:59,200
Speaker 2: I don't think I'm that loud. I don't think I'm

842
00:39:59,200 --> 00:40:01,000
Speaker 2: not nearly as loud as you might imagine. All of

843
00:40:01,000 --> 00:40:04,799
Speaker 2: my plates are rubber, they're bumper plates, and I don't

844
00:40:05,040 --> 00:40:08,000
Speaker 2: I can't drop the dumbells because they're new abells, so

845
00:40:08,000 --> 00:40:11,920
Speaker 2: if you just drop them, they shatter, so I have

846
00:40:11,960 --> 00:40:14,280
Speaker 2: to be somewhat careful. But I do bring the Bluetooth

847
00:40:14,280 --> 00:40:17,120
Speaker 2: speaker and the dying Fetus gets going around four to

848
00:40:17,160 --> 00:40:19,400
Speaker 2: forty five am out there. That is a real thing.

849
00:40:19,480 --> 00:40:21,239
Speaker 1: Are you seriously this level of an asshole that you

850
00:40:21,280 --> 00:40:26,120
Speaker 1: were playing death metal at four thirty am audibly for

851
00:40:26,160 --> 00:40:27,960
Speaker 1: people to hear as you live with.

852
00:40:28,120 --> 00:40:30,600
Speaker 2: I don't think you can. I've checked it. So I

853
00:40:30,600 --> 00:40:34,400
Speaker 2: think if you're walking past my house, like on the sidewalk,

854
00:40:34,400 --> 00:40:36,360
Speaker 2: you can't actually hear. You have to be right up

855
00:40:36,400 --> 00:40:38,800
Speaker 2: where I'm at.

856
00:40:39,640 --> 00:40:43,160
Speaker 1: The more I learn you, Luke, the more I leave.

857
00:40:42,960 --> 00:40:45,799
Speaker 2: You my neighbors. My neighbors complain about lots of things,

858
00:40:45,880 --> 00:40:47,840
Speaker 2: like when I leave the light on overnight or something.

859
00:40:47,880 --> 00:40:49,920
Speaker 2: They have never once complained about that they know me.

860
00:40:49,920 --> 00:40:52,080
Speaker 2: I know my neighbors real well, so they.

861
00:40:51,920 --> 00:40:54,400
Speaker 1: Can complain that that time you decided for about a

862
00:40:54,440 --> 00:40:56,600
Speaker 1: decade not to care about sculpting your lawn at all.

863
00:40:56,640 --> 00:40:58,440
Speaker 2: They definitely, oh, you could get better about that. They

864
00:40:58,440 --> 00:41:00,480
Speaker 2: did get better about that. They were like, you know,

865
00:41:00,560 --> 00:41:02,600
Speaker 2: the city is complaining, we don't want to say anything.

866
00:41:02,640 --> 00:41:05,440
Speaker 2: And I'm like, yeah, you're probably right about that. But

867
00:41:05,440 --> 00:41:08,400
Speaker 2: they don't complain about me getting to getting to you know,

868
00:41:08,480 --> 00:41:09,879
Speaker 2: the waits early. No, they don't mind.

869
00:41:09,920 --> 00:41:12,399
Speaker 1: All right, Well, look, we had breaking news. We had okay, bet,

870
00:41:12,480 --> 00:41:15,160
Speaker 1: let's get into the meat of the show. Topic number one. Hey,

871
00:41:15,280 --> 00:41:20,120
Speaker 1: interesting piece of sound from one Michael Chandler. He may

872
00:41:20,239 --> 00:41:23,839
Speaker 1: or may not be headlining a December pay per view

873
00:41:23,840 --> 00:41:27,160
Speaker 1: with a Christmas tree emoji against Connor McGregor. I think, actually, Luke,

874
00:41:27,160 --> 00:41:29,279
Speaker 1: they should change the rules on tough Get this for

875
00:41:29,360 --> 00:41:32,359
Speaker 1: an idea. The coaches should have to fight each other

876
00:41:32,400 --> 00:41:36,120
Speaker 1: at the end of the steam like that. And if

877
00:41:36,120 --> 00:41:38,879
Speaker 1: you're wondering, I never thought of him that way. Hey,

878
00:41:39,640 --> 00:41:41,520
Speaker 1: And if you're wondering, where in the world is Connor

879
00:41:41,600 --> 00:41:44,160
Speaker 1: McGregor this week? Luke, he improved to oh and seven

880
00:41:44,320 --> 00:41:47,920
Speaker 1: as tough coach earlier this week. Well, Michael, I will

881
00:41:47,960 --> 00:41:48,319
Speaker 1: say this.

882
00:41:48,280 --> 00:41:51,160
Speaker 2: Hold, I will say this in defense of Connor right,

883
00:41:52,040 --> 00:41:55,160
Speaker 2: getting guys who made it to the UFC who washed out.

884
00:41:55,320 --> 00:41:57,399
Speaker 2: Some of them are gonna not be all that great,

885
00:41:57,440 --> 00:41:59,040
Speaker 2: but some of them are gonna be pretty good, Like

886
00:41:59,120 --> 00:42:01,719
Speaker 2: Roosevelt Roberts is pretty good. You know, there's some other

887
00:42:01,760 --> 00:42:04,600
Speaker 2: ones there too, Like they gave Connor a bunch of

888
00:42:04,680 --> 00:42:07,520
Speaker 2: guys who are very unproven against some guys who were

889
00:42:07,880 --> 00:42:10,880
Speaker 2: you know, also Rans. I understand, but it just feels

890
00:42:10,880 --> 00:42:13,640
Speaker 2: to me like, you know, is Connor a bad coach?

891
00:42:13,680 --> 00:42:15,440
Speaker 2: From what I can tell, yes, he doesn't seem to

892
00:42:15,480 --> 00:42:16,960
Speaker 2: be doing all for his team.

893
00:42:17,280 --> 00:42:21,360
Speaker 1: However, however, I three coaching.

894
00:42:21,440 --> 00:42:24,239
Speaker 2: I mean here, but here's what I would say, if

895
00:42:24,280 --> 00:42:27,880
Speaker 2: you switch teams, would he still be zero to seven?

896
00:42:28,000 --> 00:42:30,799
Speaker 2: I don't think he would be, right. I don't think he's.

897
00:42:30,480 --> 00:42:33,399
Speaker 1: An interesting proposition. But you know, as I've said before, Luke,

898
00:42:33,440 --> 00:42:37,440
Speaker 1: this is his coaching style. Punch him in the fucking

899
00:42:37,560 --> 00:42:40,480
Speaker 1: nose like it's just it's it's ridiculous, you know.

900
00:42:40,560 --> 00:42:46,520
Speaker 2: And apropos of Wednesday's episode, Tyson Fury has already called

901
00:42:46,520 --> 00:42:48,520
Speaker 2: Frances and Gano a big dawser. I just want you

902
00:42:48,560 --> 00:42:50,560
Speaker 2: to know that he called there you.

903
00:42:50,520 --> 00:42:53,120
Speaker 1: Go, oh, look, we'll get to that later. Let's stay

904
00:42:53,120 --> 00:42:55,160
Speaker 1: in this. We have sound for Michael Chandler. I'm not

905
00:42:55,160 --> 00:42:57,200
Speaker 1: sure where it's from. I'm sure we'll label that though.

906
00:42:57,840 --> 00:43:00,960
Speaker 1: Talking about one alex Volkanowski interesting, Let's listen in.

907
00:43:01,880 --> 00:43:07,719
Speaker 5: Is Alexander Volkanovsky unbeatable? Alexander the Great? Is just that?

908
00:43:07,840 --> 00:43:10,480
Speaker 5: I break it down to three seas of why I

909
00:43:10,560 --> 00:43:14,880
Speaker 5: think Alexander Volkanowski is the most unbeatable not just unbeatable champion,

910
00:43:14,920 --> 00:43:18,080
Speaker 5: but the most unbeatable guy in the entire world. There's

911
00:43:18,120 --> 00:43:21,120
Speaker 5: a reason why he's the pound four pound number one.

912
00:43:21,160 --> 00:43:26,319
Speaker 5: I break it down to three seas completeness, cardio, and composure.

913
00:43:27,000 --> 00:43:30,040
Speaker 5: He is the most complete fighter that we have on

914
00:43:30,080 --> 00:43:32,600
Speaker 5: the roster in the UFC, the most complete fighter in

915
00:43:32,640 --> 00:43:33,959
Speaker 5: the entire world.

916
00:43:35,360 --> 00:43:38,279
Speaker 1: There's three SE's Luke getting close to gimmick infringement on

917
00:43:38,320 --> 00:43:41,200
Speaker 1: Brendan Shaub's thick boy, Right. I mean, you know, I

918
00:43:41,239 --> 00:43:41,600
Speaker 1: think that.

919
00:43:41,840 --> 00:43:46,000
Speaker 2: You won't find any angle for skits and bits. I

920
00:43:46,560 --> 00:43:52,120
Speaker 2: honestly admire your orange faced commitment to this bit. It's

921
00:43:52,280 --> 00:43:53,280
Speaker 2: gonna say amazing.

922
00:43:53,760 --> 00:43:59,040
Speaker 1: Only those CS stand for comedy Connoissan right in Chombi's

923
00:43:59,080 --> 00:44:01,520
Speaker 1: there you go, look all right? Uh looke that's an

924
00:44:01,600 --> 00:44:05,360
Speaker 1: interesting Leave me out of the shit, please, Luke, Michael.

925
00:44:05,400 --> 00:44:08,239
Speaker 1: That was Michael Chandler's YouTube page. Hey, high production. All

926
00:44:08,239 --> 00:44:10,920
Speaker 1: these fighters are getting here. Look, they are making it

927
00:44:11,000 --> 00:44:13,120
Speaker 1: so the MMA media is not needed anymore.

928
00:44:13,440 --> 00:44:15,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, MMA media. I don't know, they haven't quite picked

929
00:44:15,680 --> 00:44:18,680
Speaker 2: up on the reality that they're definitely not in demand

930
00:44:18,840 --> 00:44:21,200
Speaker 2: at all. Like the fighters had just taken all their jobs.

931
00:44:21,520 --> 00:44:23,200
Speaker 1: Is this the darkest time for that? I mean, didn't

932
00:44:23,200 --> 00:44:24,800
Speaker 1: the New York Times just lay off their whole sports

933
00:44:24,840 --> 00:44:27,520
Speaker 1: department although they own the athletic. Is this the darkest

934
00:44:27,600 --> 00:44:29,200
Speaker 1: times for sports media?

935
00:44:29,280 --> 00:44:32,239
Speaker 2: Luke, They didn't lay off their entire department. So the

936
00:44:32,280 --> 00:44:34,279
Speaker 2: Athletic is going to do their sports and I think

937
00:44:34,320 --> 00:44:37,399
Speaker 2: that they reassigned everyone who was on their sports desk.

938
00:44:38,120 --> 00:44:40,759
Speaker 2: But it's like Emmanuel Morgan was covering sports for them.

939
00:44:40,920 --> 00:44:42,120
Speaker 2: He was a great He was the guy who wrote

940
00:44:42,160 --> 00:44:44,840
Speaker 2: the Francis and Ganu big piece and everything else. It's like,

941
00:44:44,880 --> 00:44:46,360
Speaker 2: what the fuck is he going to do now? Like

942
00:44:46,719 --> 00:44:48,320
Speaker 2: science and technology, I don't know how they're going to

943
00:44:48,360 --> 00:44:51,520
Speaker 2: reassign them. So yeah, it's a horrible, horrible time. All

944
00:44:51,520 --> 00:44:53,680
Speaker 2: the athletes are taking all the jobs that media once had,

945
00:44:53,680 --> 00:44:55,799
Speaker 2: which you can be mad about it, but it ain't

946
00:44:55,800 --> 00:44:59,440
Speaker 2: gonna stop. And uh yeah, terrible, terrible, really terrible time.

947
00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:01,960
Speaker 1: All right. Back to Michael Chandler's comments, I did like

948
00:45:02,000 --> 00:45:05,160
Speaker 1: the three c's. He's right, is though he right about

949
00:45:05,160 --> 00:45:08,279
Speaker 1: this Luke Obviously Volkanovsky is the pomp for pound King,

950
00:45:08,640 --> 00:45:10,520
Speaker 1: or you could have Islam, he could have John Jones.

951
00:45:10,560 --> 00:45:13,680
Speaker 1: I get that, But he's right there. But sometimes beatability

952
00:45:14,000 --> 00:45:16,880
Speaker 1: is dependent upon the competition in your own division as well.

953
00:45:17,000 --> 00:45:18,920
Speaker 1: Would you say right now in the UFC that the

954
00:45:19,000 --> 00:45:23,080
Speaker 1: hardest champion to be the most unbeatable champion is exactly

955
00:45:23,120 --> 00:45:24,399
Speaker 1: that Alexander the Great.

956
00:45:24,960 --> 00:45:27,000
Speaker 2: I don't see how you could say it's anybody else.

957
00:45:27,000 --> 00:45:29,120
Speaker 2: I mean you could argue again, Number one, number two

958
00:45:29,120 --> 00:45:32,480
Speaker 2: based on accomplishment is if Vulk is at Islam, And

959
00:45:32,520 --> 00:45:35,680
Speaker 2: that's a fine debate. Again, there's gonna be differences of opinion,

960
00:45:35,719 --> 00:45:38,200
Speaker 2: and I'm okay with that. But what you can't say

961
00:45:38,360 --> 00:45:42,960
Speaker 2: is that I just don't feel like Islam is as

962
00:45:43,080 --> 00:45:45,279
Speaker 2: far ahead of the other one to fifty five vers

963
00:45:45,280 --> 00:45:46,920
Speaker 2: even though I think he is ahead of them in

964
00:45:47,000 --> 00:45:49,080
Speaker 2: the same way that I think Vulk is ahead of

965
00:45:49,080 --> 00:45:51,480
Speaker 2: his contemporaries. I mean Vulk is able to do things

966
00:45:51,880 --> 00:45:54,359
Speaker 2: in terms we talked about this before, in terms of computation,

967
00:45:54,480 --> 00:45:57,960
Speaker 2: in terms of strategy, in terms of adaptations. Folks just

968
00:45:57,960 --> 00:46:01,960
Speaker 2: don't appreciate this. It is not automatic that even a

969
00:46:02,040 --> 00:46:04,279
Speaker 2: high level fighter can look at what is happening in

970
00:46:04,280 --> 00:46:07,280
Speaker 2: front of them, make diagnoses about it and make slight

971
00:46:07,360 --> 00:46:11,880
Speaker 2: alterations in different ways, such as to problem solve for

972
00:46:11,920 --> 00:46:14,359
Speaker 2: them and maximize their own chances. This is by no

973
00:46:14,520 --> 00:46:17,200
Speaker 2: means a given. It's like some guys can do it,

974
00:46:17,200 --> 00:46:18,759
Speaker 2: some guys can do it well, and some guys can

975
00:46:18,760 --> 00:46:23,480
Speaker 2: do it extraordinarily well. Volkanovski is at that end. He's

976
00:46:23,480 --> 00:46:26,319
Speaker 2: at the guy who can do it like effortlessly is

977
00:46:26,360 --> 00:46:28,279
Speaker 2: what he can do at this point basically, And so

978
00:46:28,920 --> 00:46:31,759
Speaker 2: because of that, when you ask her who's unbeatable, you

979
00:46:31,920 --> 00:46:34,400
Speaker 2: marry that BC with the things like he made it

980
00:46:34,440 --> 00:46:37,160
Speaker 2: three c's, which is like easy to understand about cardio,

981
00:46:37,280 --> 00:46:39,960
Speaker 2: and then composure, which I think is important. But you

982
00:46:40,040 --> 00:46:43,280
Speaker 2: think of it this way. He is such a professional

983
00:46:43,840 --> 00:46:46,000
Speaker 2: that you're not going to catch him slipping on his

984
00:46:46,080 --> 00:46:48,799
Speaker 2: training in terms of is he in shape, he will

985
00:46:48,840 --> 00:46:51,480
Speaker 2: be in shape. You're not going to catch him slipping

986
00:46:51,800 --> 00:46:54,600
Speaker 2: like unable to make weight. He is going to make weight,

987
00:46:54,680 --> 00:46:59,000
Speaker 2: so all of the base layer conditions necessary for success,

988
00:46:59,120 --> 00:47:02,160
Speaker 2: those are all covered. He's a pros pro. He then

989
00:47:02,480 --> 00:47:06,800
Speaker 2: adds to that this adaptability, which is so next level.

990
00:47:07,239 --> 00:47:09,200
Speaker 2: I just I just don't know what guys are going

991
00:47:09,280 --> 00:47:11,680
Speaker 2: to be able to do with that. For sure, he

992
00:47:11,760 --> 00:47:14,000
Speaker 2: is the toughest champion to beat them in there right now.

993
00:47:14,160 --> 00:47:17,080
Speaker 1: For as long as that window lasts. And at thirty four,

994
00:47:17,200 --> 00:47:20,200
Speaker 1: even with that dooming stat you like to share lingering

995
00:47:20,239 --> 00:47:23,239
Speaker 1: out there. Obviously, like the fall off the cliff was

996
00:47:23,239 --> 00:47:24,560
Speaker 1: going to be is gonna calm, and the fall off

997
00:47:24,600 --> 00:47:26,560
Speaker 1: the cliff doesn't have to be knockout loss. The fall

998
00:47:26,600 --> 00:47:29,439
Speaker 1: off the cliff could just be going from super lead

999
00:47:29,560 --> 00:47:32,879
Speaker 1: all time great to just very very very very good.

1000
00:47:32,960 --> 00:47:35,560
Speaker 1: But you look at like that's why I've been comparing

1001
00:47:35,600 --> 00:47:37,600
Speaker 1: him to Demetrius Johnson of late. He's one of the

1002
00:47:37,680 --> 00:47:39,960
Speaker 1: rare fighters in history who, like across the board, has

1003
00:47:40,080 --> 00:47:43,400
Speaker 1: raised each and every part of the categories of what

1004
00:47:43,520 --> 00:47:45,839
Speaker 1: makes up a great fighter and build them all up

1005
00:47:45,840 --> 00:47:47,879
Speaker 1: to the super elite level where it's just like there's

1006
00:47:47,960 --> 00:47:52,080
Speaker 1: nothing he can't do in that regard. But the reality

1007
00:47:52,160 --> 00:47:55,200
Speaker 1: is that everyone's human nobody is unbeatable, and that's what

1008
00:47:55,280 --> 00:47:59,719
Speaker 1: makes upset so thrilling and so amazing when somebody implodes

1009
00:47:59,840 --> 00:48:02,839
Speaker 1: or gets caught or makes a big mistake. Because Luke

1010
00:48:02,920 --> 00:48:06,520
Speaker 1: as strong and dominant as Volkanovski is right now, and

1011
00:48:06,560 --> 00:48:08,759
Speaker 1: I do agree with you and Michael Chandler that he

1012
00:48:08,920 --> 00:48:10,880
Speaker 1: is the answer to the question of who is the

1013
00:48:10,880 --> 00:48:15,719
Speaker 1: most unbeatable champion at the moment? True or false to you, Valentino,

1014
00:48:15,800 --> 00:48:20,560
Speaker 1: Chefchenko before the Grosso fight, considering the division, even though

1015
00:48:20,600 --> 00:48:24,759
Speaker 1: it's getting better, in my opinion, was even more unbeatable

1016
00:48:24,800 --> 00:48:26,799
Speaker 1: if we're going to stick a label on that. And

1017
00:48:26,840 --> 00:48:29,400
Speaker 1: look what just happened to Alexa Grosso. It's got submitted.

1018
00:48:29,480 --> 00:48:32,399
Speaker 1: It's like, that's wild. But I actually would have said

1019
00:48:32,440 --> 00:48:35,800
Speaker 1: that compared to the level of competition, I almost considered

1020
00:48:35,880 --> 00:48:40,000
Speaker 1: Chefchenko even higher up of a distance separating them from

1021
00:48:40,000 --> 00:48:42,480
Speaker 1: those below them. I don't think that's an inaccurate statement.

1022
00:48:44,360 --> 00:48:52,360
Speaker 2: Oh that's interesting, So hold on, she's more unbeatable. Like so,

1023
00:48:52,400 --> 00:48:55,919
Speaker 2: the way you're imagining it is the distance between her

1024
00:48:56,320 --> 00:48:59,760
Speaker 2: base layer of ability and their base layer of ability.

1025
00:49:00,080 --> 00:49:02,520
Speaker 2: What is the actual distance between that? And in your mind,

1026
00:49:02,560 --> 00:49:05,440
Speaker 2: that's what made up the difference, not so much like

1027
00:49:05,920 --> 00:49:09,600
Speaker 2: particular fight ability or something.

1028
00:49:09,280 --> 00:49:11,000
Speaker 1: That that's part of it. You've got to be well

1029
00:49:11,080 --> 00:49:13,880
Speaker 1: rounded across the entire board so that you can solve

1030
00:49:13,920 --> 00:49:17,640
Speaker 1: every problem. But I think until recently this one twenty

1031
00:49:17,680 --> 00:49:20,440
Speaker 1: to five division like was almost historically bad, and then

1032
00:49:20,480 --> 00:49:21,879
Speaker 1: it got a little bit better, a little bit better.

1033
00:49:21,880 --> 00:49:24,759
Speaker 1: Now it's pretty damn good. But even within that, Luke,

1034
00:49:24,800 --> 00:49:27,120
Speaker 1: I don't know if you have the same level of

1035
00:49:27,160 --> 00:49:29,960
Speaker 1: finishing threats that you do at women's flyweight that you

1036
00:49:30,480 --> 00:49:33,080
Speaker 1: do in a killer division like men's featherweight at the moment,

1037
00:49:33,160 --> 00:49:36,479
Speaker 1: so that only adds to the danger. But I think

1038
00:49:36,600 --> 00:49:38,440
Speaker 1: even you know, it's a flawed point to even bring

1039
00:49:38,480 --> 00:49:40,320
Speaker 1: up Valentina because what did she do last fight. She

1040
00:49:40,400 --> 00:49:44,040
Speaker 1: just got completely bamboozled and finished. I mean, she tapped

1041
00:49:44,080 --> 00:49:48,440
Speaker 1: out to rear naked joke. No one is really unbeatable,

1042
00:49:48,600 --> 00:49:51,320
Speaker 1: but yeah, right now it's Volkanovsky. I do think Valentina

1043
00:49:51,360 --> 00:49:53,920
Speaker 1: and really at some point Amanda before her before the

1044
00:49:53,960 --> 00:49:57,439
Speaker 1: Pain You fight, maybe before the GDR rematch, it did

1045
00:49:57,480 --> 00:49:59,320
Speaker 1: feel for a bit like Amanda was going to be

1046
00:49:59,400 --> 00:50:01,759
Speaker 1: unbeatable for while, but that also again had to do

1047
00:50:01,800 --> 00:50:03,759
Speaker 1: with the competition level across from her.

1048
00:50:04,280 --> 00:50:07,399
Speaker 2: I mean, I've made this point before. Like champions, it's

1049
00:50:07,440 --> 00:50:10,640
Speaker 2: not that they never get tested, it's that that even

1050
00:50:10,640 --> 00:50:12,880
Speaker 2: when they get tested, they find ways to persevere. So

1051
00:50:12,920 --> 00:50:14,759
Speaker 2: I'll give you two great examples, and I go back

1052
00:50:14,760 --> 00:50:16,920
Speaker 2: to it all the time. You know, fad Or in

1053
00:50:16,960 --> 00:50:20,960
Speaker 2: his prime got his shit rocked by Kasuyuki Fujito, who

1054
00:50:21,040 --> 00:50:24,080
Speaker 2: was a guy he was widely expected to demolish, and

1055
00:50:24,120 --> 00:50:26,680
Speaker 2: even after he got rocked, he demolished him in the

1056
00:50:26,680 --> 00:50:29,320
Speaker 2: most brutal of ways. So it's one of the best bodykicker.

1057
00:50:29,440 --> 00:50:30,840
Speaker 2: I think it was a right hook combo. Maybe it

1058
00:50:30,840 --> 00:50:32,719
Speaker 2: was a left hook combo. I can't remember, but it

1059
00:50:32,760 --> 00:50:35,440
Speaker 2: was a bodykick and then a hook combo that just

1060
00:50:35,480 --> 00:50:38,279
Speaker 2: sent him crashing to the mat. But he got I mean,

1061
00:50:38,320 --> 00:50:40,719
Speaker 2: he was in horrible shape before that. He just found

1062
00:50:40,719 --> 00:50:43,560
Speaker 2: a way to persevere. ORBC for fight fans who may

1063
00:50:43,600 --> 00:50:45,680
Speaker 2: have missed that when it happened, how about Brian or

1064
00:50:45,719 --> 00:50:49,799
Speaker 2: Tagan merely squeezing the life out of Alexander Volkanowski. He

1065
00:50:49,920 --> 00:50:52,880
Speaker 2: just found a way to persevere. But boy, he was tested.

1066
00:50:52,920 --> 00:50:55,480
Speaker 2: He was pushed to the limit. They like so in

1067
00:50:55,520 --> 00:50:58,520
Speaker 2: that fragile sense, and that like unbeatable sense, it's not

1068
00:50:58,560 --> 00:51:00,760
Speaker 2: like that people are never able to send the mountain.

1069
00:51:00,800 --> 00:51:03,200
Speaker 2: It's like they are rarely able to ascend the mountain.

1070
00:51:03,239 --> 00:51:07,200
Speaker 2: But even when they do, the guy just finds or

1071
00:51:07,239 --> 00:51:11,440
Speaker 2: the lady one more little extra gear to get to

1072
00:51:11,520 --> 00:51:14,440
Speaker 2: He calls it composure in his list to move him

1073
00:51:14,440 --> 00:51:16,200
Speaker 2: with the list, So BC it actually makes me wonder, like,

1074
00:51:16,200 --> 00:51:18,680
Speaker 2: when we look at the champions, how would you rank

1075
00:51:18,760 --> 00:51:22,960
Speaker 2: them in terms of least beatable. We've got Volkanovsky at

1076
00:51:22,960 --> 00:51:26,560
Speaker 2: the top. I probably would put Islam number two, But

1077
00:51:26,680 --> 00:51:29,080
Speaker 2: where would you put number three? Would you put a

1078
00:51:29,080 --> 00:51:32,000
Speaker 2: guy at flyway Probably not certainly, not two zero five?

1079
00:51:32,040 --> 00:51:34,759
Speaker 2: You can, and in heavyweight maybe John Jones, but he's

1080
00:51:34,760 --> 00:51:36,359
Speaker 2: not gonna be a round long enough, so it's harder

1081
00:51:36,400 --> 00:51:39,480
Speaker 2: to say. So I was thinking, like, would you put

1082
00:51:39,520 --> 00:51:42,360
Speaker 2: Izzy three because we just saw him get beat and

1083
00:51:42,400 --> 00:51:44,200
Speaker 2: then he comes back and he wins, and he's been

1084
00:51:44,320 --> 00:51:47,040
Speaker 2: champion for a while, but you wouldn't call him unbeatable.

1085
00:51:47,440 --> 00:51:52,520
Speaker 2: Who's behind Vulk and Islam in that ranking of most unbeatable?

1086
00:51:52,800 --> 00:51:55,239
Speaker 1: I think it's easy. That seemed like a special case

1087
00:51:55,239 --> 00:51:58,239
Speaker 1: Scenario's not like Izzy is unbeatable, but the fact that

1088
00:51:58,280 --> 00:52:00,239
Speaker 1: he did lose. It did come in a fight, came

1089
00:52:00,239 --> 00:52:02,200
Speaker 1: in a fight in which he was leading clearly in

1090
00:52:02,239 --> 00:52:05,640
Speaker 1: the fifth round and against a rival who had his number.

1091
00:52:06,120 --> 00:52:07,880
Speaker 1: He obviously did the only thing you can do to

1092
00:52:07,920 --> 00:52:11,200
Speaker 1: completely change that scenario, which has come right back immediate

1093
00:52:11,239 --> 00:52:14,040
Speaker 1: rematch and knocked that guy the frick out. I think

1094
00:52:14,080 --> 00:52:16,839
Speaker 1: that puts him up into third in that regard. Even

1095
00:52:16,880 --> 00:52:18,440
Speaker 1: though he's not as well rounded as some of the

1096
00:52:18,480 --> 00:52:22,399
Speaker 1: guys in this contemporary listing, meaning Islam or Vulk, he's

1097
00:52:22,440 --> 00:52:25,400
Speaker 1: so strong he's closed the area is that he's not

1098
00:52:25,440 --> 00:52:27,839
Speaker 1: as strong at I'm saying, he's sort of figured out

1099
00:52:27,840 --> 00:52:30,080
Speaker 1: how to avoid getting into trouble in those areas. He's

1100
00:52:30,120 --> 00:52:33,120
Speaker 1: able to use his lead strengths in terms of striking,

1101
00:52:33,120 --> 00:52:34,960
Speaker 1: distance and timing and all of that to such a

1102
00:52:35,000 --> 00:52:37,560
Speaker 1: high degree to control the terms of the fight. I

1103
00:52:37,600 --> 00:52:40,080
Speaker 1: think it's okay to have Islam at too, because look,

1104
00:52:40,080 --> 00:52:42,399
Speaker 1: we have seen him lose before. He's better than that fight.

1105
00:52:42,440 --> 00:52:45,319
Speaker 1: We've just never seen Volk lose on this level at all.

1106
00:52:45,400 --> 00:52:47,000
Speaker 1: We just haven't, you know what I'm saying, So that

1107
00:52:47,080 --> 00:52:50,280
Speaker 1: separates that. But I do think Attasania with Valentina losing,

1108
00:52:50,320 --> 00:52:53,319
Speaker 1: with Amanda retiring I think Attasania is right there at three,

1109
00:52:53,360 --> 00:52:55,040
Speaker 1: and after that, it's like, well.

1110
00:52:55,000 --> 00:52:56,799
Speaker 2: Let me say after that. Let let me say after that,

1111
00:52:56,800 --> 00:52:59,120
Speaker 2: because I have an idea. I don't know where I

1112
00:52:59,160 --> 00:53:03,520
Speaker 2: would put Algae main Sterling right now, but after August nineteenth,

1113
00:53:03,520 --> 00:53:06,560
Speaker 2: if by August twenty, if al Jamain Sterling is still

1114
00:53:06,560 --> 00:53:08,920
Speaker 2: your bantamweight champion, if he beats Sean O'Malley, I mean,

1115
00:53:09,000 --> 00:53:11,759
Speaker 2: just consider this. For a second, BC number one rank

1116
00:53:11,800 --> 00:53:13,839
Speaker 2: contender is Morab. It looks like they're not going to fight,

1117
00:53:13,920 --> 00:53:15,759
Speaker 2: so that's not even a question we can really ask.

1118
00:53:16,320 --> 00:53:19,080
Speaker 2: Two would be Sean O'Malley, Three would be Sahudo, four

1119
00:53:19,080 --> 00:53:22,080
Speaker 2: would be Sandhagen, five would be yond He would have

1120
00:53:22,200 --> 00:53:25,279
Speaker 2: basically beaten and cleaned out the top five at that point,

1121
00:53:25,320 --> 00:53:27,359
Speaker 2: again not including Morab, who you might think could beat him.

1122
00:53:27,360 --> 00:53:29,160
Speaker 2: But they're not going to fight. How relevant is that?

1123
00:53:29,239 --> 00:53:32,680
Speaker 2: It's not, dude, I gotta tell you again, because we're

1124
00:53:32,719 --> 00:53:34,960
Speaker 2: not past the Shan O'Malley fight. I'm a little bit

1125
00:53:35,000 --> 00:53:38,400
Speaker 2: more unclear because you know, the Sahuto fight was he

1126
00:53:38,480 --> 00:53:40,520
Speaker 2: eked one out there. But if he goes and beat

1127
00:53:40,560 --> 00:53:43,120
Speaker 2: Sean O'Malley and you're beaten basically all the guys in

1128
00:53:43,200 --> 00:53:45,880
Speaker 2: the top five. You might have to put him number

1129
00:53:45,880 --> 00:53:47,799
Speaker 2: three after that, to be quite honest.

1130
00:53:47,480 --> 00:53:50,400
Speaker 1: With you, especially because he has been creeping up the

1131
00:53:50,440 --> 00:53:53,040
Speaker 1: Pofer Pould list with these victories. Even again, if some

1132
00:53:53,080 --> 00:53:55,239
Speaker 1: of them are you know, like the TJ fight you

1133
00:53:55,239 --> 00:53:57,400
Speaker 1: don't really learn anything from. But it's another big win

1134
00:53:57,480 --> 00:54:00,720
Speaker 1: against a big name. You know, he's ain't keep Aljoe

1135
00:54:00,719 --> 00:54:02,319
Speaker 1: out of the top five year pound for POUNDA at

1136
00:54:02,360 --> 00:54:04,279
Speaker 1: the moment, So I would agree. I want you to

1137
00:54:04,280 --> 00:54:06,359
Speaker 1: stop saying though John won't be around for long, Luke,

1138
00:54:06,400 --> 00:54:08,080
Speaker 1: you don't know that. You don't know that. You say

1139
00:54:08,120 --> 00:54:09,080
Speaker 1: it's so matter of fact.

1140
00:54:09,120 --> 00:54:11,600
Speaker 2: If he sticks around, then it's a different equation. But

1141
00:54:11,640 --> 00:54:14,560
Speaker 2: if he beats you know, Cyril God who was just

1142
00:54:14,719 --> 00:54:17,440
Speaker 2: utterly unprepared for that moment, and then a forty two

1143
00:54:17,520 --> 00:54:19,799
Speaker 2: year old or whatever world he'll be steep A then

1144
00:54:19,840 --> 00:54:22,000
Speaker 2: calls it quits. It's like how dominant a champion was

1145
00:54:22,880 --> 00:54:23,279
Speaker 2: after that.

1146
00:54:23,600 --> 00:54:24,920
Speaker 1: You don't know that he I think he made one

1147
00:54:24,960 --> 00:54:27,080
Speaker 1: comment and you're living and dying on that. But John

1148
00:54:27,200 --> 00:54:29,279
Speaker 1: is an interesting factor in this, Luke, only because we

1149
00:54:29,560 --> 00:54:31,200
Speaker 1: I'll say this again and I'll stand by it. We

1150
00:54:31,200 --> 00:54:33,280
Speaker 1: don't know who John Jones really is as a heavyweight

1151
00:54:33,280 --> 00:54:35,960
Speaker 1: because of the the way how quickly that godfight went.

1152
00:54:36,239 --> 00:54:38,399
Speaker 1: I don't actually know how unbeatable he is. He see

1153
00:54:38,400 --> 00:54:42,719
Speaker 1: obviously he has such deep and changeables from iq to

1154
00:54:42,960 --> 00:54:45,680
Speaker 1: chin that you know, he may just be more skilled

1155
00:54:45,719 --> 00:54:48,080
Speaker 1: than all these guys and and had and has retained

1156
00:54:48,120 --> 00:54:50,239
Speaker 1: some of that light heavyweight speed to just use that

1157
00:54:50,280 --> 00:54:52,480
Speaker 1: long reach and keep him away, or he could get

1158
00:54:52,560 --> 00:54:54,080
Speaker 1: knocked out by steep. I mean, we don't really know.

1159
00:54:54,120 --> 00:54:56,040
Speaker 1: You don't really know that. You don't really know that.

1160
00:54:56,239 --> 00:54:59,160
Speaker 1: But Luke, when we're talking about like who's an unbeatable champion,

1161
00:54:59,160 --> 00:55:01,480
Speaker 1: it's not in all time thing in terms of the

1162
00:55:01,560 --> 00:55:04,840
Speaker 1: totality of your career, because inevitably, unless you retire on

1163
00:55:04,880 --> 00:55:08,040
Speaker 1: top like Habib did, you're going to get to a

1164
00:55:08,040 --> 00:55:10,960
Speaker 1: point where you're beatable to some degree or just look bad.

1165
00:55:11,040 --> 00:55:12,919
Speaker 1: Luck will catch up to you. There's so many ways

1166
00:55:12,920 --> 00:55:15,400
Speaker 1: to lose. But when we ask each other, who do

1167
00:55:15,480 --> 00:55:18,120
Speaker 1: we think was the all time most unbeatable champion? I

1168
00:55:18,160 --> 00:55:19,839
Speaker 1: think correct me if I'm wrong. I think what we're

1169
00:55:19,840 --> 00:55:22,800
Speaker 1: asking is at the very peak of their powers. However

1170
00:55:22,840 --> 00:55:26,360
Speaker 1: long that was three to five years, one year one fight, however,

1171
00:55:26,400 --> 00:55:28,960
Speaker 1: it was at the very peak of their powers, and

1172
00:55:29,040 --> 00:55:31,200
Speaker 1: you look back and you're trying to debate who was

1173
00:55:31,239 --> 00:55:34,319
Speaker 1: the most unbeatable champion because you and I just did

1174
00:55:34,320 --> 00:55:36,759
Speaker 1: the resume review of Fador, and I got to go

1175
00:55:36,880 --> 00:55:40,680
Speaker 1: back fight after fight in order and relive that pride

1176
00:55:40,719 --> 00:55:44,280
Speaker 1: run against all killers, and see what he did against

1177
00:55:44,400 --> 00:55:48,239
Speaker 1: Prime Big Nog who was destroying all the other heavyweights

1178
00:55:48,239 --> 00:55:51,360
Speaker 1: in there, and see how he almost got finished but

1179
00:55:51,400 --> 00:55:53,839
Speaker 1: would come back miraculously after being dropped on his head,

1180
00:55:53,840 --> 00:55:56,640
Speaker 1: all that kind of stuff. It's Fador's my answer, how

1181
00:55:56,640 --> 00:55:57,239
Speaker 1: do you count of that?

1182
00:55:58,120 --> 00:56:01,400
Speaker 2: No, it would be BJ Penn when he was working

1183
00:56:01,440 --> 00:56:05,160
Speaker 2: for the Marinovitches. I just and here's why I say that.

1184
00:56:05,200 --> 00:56:07,520
Speaker 2: I bec because the fatal or choice is a good choice.

1185
00:56:07,560 --> 00:56:10,920
Speaker 2: It's not a bad choice. But the reason why I

1186
00:56:10,960 --> 00:56:13,359
Speaker 2: go with Penn is because, like for example, like after

1187
00:56:13,400 --> 00:56:16,200
Speaker 2: the Diego Sanchez fight or something, you because you could

1188
00:56:16,200 --> 00:56:18,120
Speaker 2: even say after the Shirk fight, whatever one you want.

1189
00:56:19,040 --> 00:56:22,719
Speaker 2: I remember thinking about what he was so good at

1190
00:56:22,800 --> 00:56:26,680
Speaker 2: and saying to myself at that time, I don't think

1191
00:56:26,880 --> 00:56:30,080
Speaker 2: anyone is going to beat this guy right now, like

1192
00:56:30,239 --> 00:56:32,399
Speaker 2: at that moment, and I still don't think Frank Acreer

1193
00:56:32,400 --> 00:56:34,200
Speaker 2: beat him the first time, although we obviously did the second.

1194
00:56:34,239 --> 00:56:38,239
Speaker 2: But he he he. There was a moment in time

1195
00:56:38,280 --> 00:56:40,840
Speaker 2: where he was working with the Marinovich Brothers where he

1196
00:56:41,000 --> 00:56:46,759
Speaker 2: was at at that moment fucking untouchable, untouchable, and I'd

1197
00:56:46,760 --> 00:56:48,640
Speaker 2: never seen a fighter quite like that. You know, you

1198
00:56:48,640 --> 00:56:50,920
Speaker 2: couldn't take him down. You're not gonna beat him. In

1199
00:56:50,960 --> 00:56:53,000
Speaker 2: jiu jitsu, he was working with Freddy Roach. He had

1200
00:56:53,000 --> 00:56:57,279
Speaker 2: a ridiculous jab. He punched hard. And if you watch

1201
00:56:57,360 --> 00:56:59,439
Speaker 2: the Nick Daz fight or the or even the John

1202
00:56:59,480 --> 00:57:01,120
Speaker 2: Fitch fight, but if you watch Thenigdas fight, you can't

1203
00:57:01,120 --> 00:57:03,719
Speaker 2: really appreciate it. But there was a time where bj

1204
00:57:03,960 --> 00:57:06,879
Speaker 2: was hard to scar. It was hard to lump him

1205
00:57:06,920 --> 00:57:08,840
Speaker 2: up even when you hit him. He had like just

1206
00:57:09,200 --> 00:57:12,600
Speaker 2: like not a rock chin and like tough skin, and

1207
00:57:12,640 --> 00:57:14,680
Speaker 2: when that faded, the whole thing went. But at that moment,

1208
00:57:14,680 --> 00:57:17,320
Speaker 2: like when he beat Takenori Gomi at Rumble on the Rock,

1209
00:57:17,400 --> 00:57:20,120
Speaker 2: I was like, holy fucking shit, you know, you just

1210
00:57:20,120 --> 00:57:22,040
Speaker 2: couldn't you couldn't fathom anyone beating him.

1211
00:57:22,080 --> 00:57:24,120
Speaker 1: I'm glad you bring that up to remember that stretch.

1212
00:57:24,160 --> 00:57:25,800
Speaker 1: It's the same reason we have to bring up w

1213
00:57:25,960 --> 00:57:28,480
Speaker 1: EC version of Jose Aldo, who was just a next

1214
00:57:28,560 --> 00:57:31,440
Speaker 1: level beast and so far ahead of everybody. John Jones

1215
00:57:31,440 --> 00:57:33,439
Speaker 1: and the light heavyweight run as de factor in here Again,

1216
00:57:33,480 --> 00:57:36,440
Speaker 1: his intangibles pulled him out of very tough fights against

1217
00:57:36,440 --> 00:57:38,520
Speaker 1: Hall of famers, and he was able to get the

1218
00:57:38,640 --> 00:57:41,760
Speaker 1: edge all of the time. Amanda at her peak, Valentine

1219
00:57:41,800 --> 00:57:45,960
Speaker 1: at her peaker in this discussion, Rousey's interesting, Luke, because

1220
00:57:46,000 --> 00:57:48,920
Speaker 1: the the I mean, the women's game was so some

1221
00:57:48,960 --> 00:57:52,240
Speaker 1: of these some of these ladies were so overmatched. But yeah,

1222
00:57:52,280 --> 00:57:54,800
Speaker 1: and that dominant stretches started to feel like, who could

1223
00:57:54,840 --> 00:57:58,040
Speaker 1: she not submit in twenty thirty seconds? But I got

1224
00:57:58,040 --> 00:58:00,520
Speaker 1: to offer her beedback into here, Luke, because he did

1225
00:58:00,560 --> 00:58:03,160
Speaker 1: walk away at the very peak of his powers, and

1226
00:58:03,360 --> 00:58:06,040
Speaker 1: at that very point, at the very peak of his powers,

1227
00:58:06,680 --> 00:58:09,600
Speaker 1: it's really hard to make an argument for anyone historically

1228
00:58:09,640 --> 00:58:12,200
Speaker 1: in and around his weight class to have been able

1229
00:58:12,200 --> 00:58:14,840
Speaker 1: to figure him out and beat him. I mean, seriously,

1230
00:58:15,080 --> 00:58:18,439
Speaker 1: how great was the Habib who survived those leg kicks

1231
00:58:18,440 --> 00:58:21,360
Speaker 1: and then instantly submitted? Gayshee like that dude or the

1232
00:58:21,440 --> 00:58:25,560
Speaker 1: dude from the Poier fight before that, Who's beating that guy? Luke, anyone.

1233
00:58:25,680 --> 00:58:28,400
Speaker 2: I mean, here's how you know, and Mikey is saying,

1234
00:58:28,440 --> 00:58:31,040
Speaker 2: Anderson Silva, Dude, I remember when Anderson Silva, Like obviously

1235
00:58:31,120 --> 00:58:32,640
Speaker 2: you know it's funny, like when did he look the

1236
00:58:32,640 --> 00:58:36,800
Speaker 2: most unbeatable when he was fucking styling not just on

1237
00:58:36,920 --> 00:58:38,880
Speaker 2: chel Sona but even later Stephan Bonner at the late

1238
00:58:38,880 --> 00:58:40,880
Speaker 2: Stephan Bonner Rest in peace. But then of course he

1239
00:58:40,920 --> 00:58:42,720
Speaker 2: lost right after that. He lost to Chris Wyman right

1240
00:58:42,760 --> 00:58:44,760
Speaker 2: after that. So you know, it's these certain moments in

1241
00:58:44,800 --> 00:58:48,120
Speaker 2: time guys look like that. The John Jones one is interesting.

1242
00:58:48,120 --> 00:58:50,280
Speaker 2: But Habib, Like, here's what I mean about these guys,

1243
00:58:50,280 --> 00:58:53,280
Speaker 2: like with Penn and Habib, when they're beating the shit

1244
00:58:53,360 --> 00:58:56,280
Speaker 2: out of their contemporaries, and then they're using tools that

1245
00:58:56,360 --> 00:58:58,480
Speaker 2: the rest of the game hasn't caught up on, Like

1246
00:58:58,560 --> 00:59:00,640
Speaker 2: BJ Penn had a jab before people had a really

1247
00:59:00,680 --> 00:59:02,520
Speaker 2: good job he was using Even to this day.

1248
00:59:02,440 --> 00:59:02,640
Speaker 1: B J.

1249
00:59:02,760 --> 00:59:08,320
Speaker 2: Penn's ground game would still be considered advanced by today's standards.

1250
00:59:08,440 --> 00:59:12,000
Speaker 2: That is how far ahead he was in jiu jitsu,

1251
00:59:12,080 --> 00:59:16,000
Speaker 2: like him using octopus guard octopus guard back takes like

1252
00:59:16,040 --> 00:59:18,120
Speaker 2: the kind he hit on Matt Hughes. He actually separated

1253
00:59:18,120 --> 00:59:19,640
Speaker 2: his rib doing it at the time, which was I

1254
00:59:19,640 --> 00:59:22,040
Speaker 2: think the second or third Hughes fight. No, it's the

1255
00:59:22,080 --> 00:59:26,160
Speaker 2: second Hughes fight. Octopus guard back takes are only now

1256
00:59:26,200 --> 00:59:28,439
Speaker 2: coming into fashion or have been about the last year

1257
00:59:28,600 --> 00:59:31,240
Speaker 2: or so. Bj Penn was doing that over ten fucking

1258
00:59:31,320 --> 00:59:33,800
Speaker 2: years ago. This is what I mean. These guys and

1259
00:59:33,880 --> 00:59:35,720
Speaker 2: Habib too like guys are now catching up to the

1260
00:59:35,800 --> 00:59:38,880
Speaker 2: dagas Naani style of like risk control and and you know,

1261
00:59:38,960 --> 00:59:41,160
Speaker 2: and then wrapping the legs and elevating them and then

1262
00:59:41,280 --> 00:59:44,040
Speaker 2: using that to you know, control movement, like what Craig

1263
00:59:44,120 --> 00:59:47,040
Speaker 2: Jones has gotten. Guys like Maka excuse me, guys like

1264
00:59:47,120 --> 00:59:51,080
Speaker 2: Volkanofski to do. You know, they're ahead of their time, right,

1265
00:59:51,160 --> 00:59:53,360
Speaker 2: John Jones was ahead of his time, so ahead of

1266
00:59:53,360 --> 00:59:56,320
Speaker 2: his time, GSP ahead of his time. To what degree

1267
00:59:56,320 --> 00:59:58,680
Speaker 2: they were unbeatable, we can decide, But that to me

1268
00:59:58,800 --> 01:00:01,080
Speaker 2: is the common denominator. They're doing things in the game

1269
01:00:01,080 --> 01:00:03,680
Speaker 2: that their peers simply do not. It's not just that

1270
01:00:03,680 --> 01:00:05,920
Speaker 2: they're better, they're doing things differently.

1271
01:00:06,720 --> 01:00:08,560
Speaker 1: And I hate to dunk on our boy Rashad, but

1272
01:00:08,720 --> 01:00:12,080
Speaker 1: welcome to the Machidah era. It did feel like he

1273
01:00:12,200 --> 01:00:15,000
Speaker 1: wasn't gonna lose for a while after that title knockout win, Right,

1274
01:00:15,040 --> 01:00:17,480
Speaker 1: it did feel like it, Yeah, it did feel like it.

1275
01:00:17,520 --> 01:00:20,480
Speaker 1: To close on this category, Mikey has written down who's

1276
01:00:20,480 --> 01:00:23,480
Speaker 1: the most beatable champion of the moment. That sounds disrespectful.

1277
01:00:23,520 --> 01:00:26,160
Speaker 1: Who's the most vulnerable UFC champion at the moment based

1278
01:00:26,200 --> 01:00:30,320
Speaker 1: on either the parody in the division or maybe you know,

1279
01:00:30,400 --> 01:00:33,040
Speaker 1: the fact that sometimes people win the championship but aren't

1280
01:00:33,040 --> 01:00:34,600
Speaker 1: the best fighter in the division at that moment.

1281
01:00:35,680 --> 01:00:39,080
Speaker 2: Definitely feels like flyweight is up for grabs as and again,

1282
01:00:39,160 --> 01:00:41,080
Speaker 2: not none of these guys are bums. That's not what

1283
01:00:41,080 --> 01:00:42,400
Speaker 2: we mean. We just mean a lot of them are

1284
01:00:42,400 --> 01:00:45,800
Speaker 2: really good, but they're not really much much better than

1285
01:00:45,840 --> 01:00:48,080
Speaker 2: the other guy. Right. It kind of feels like Brandon

1286
01:00:48,120 --> 01:00:50,040
Speaker 2: Marino could have won that on a different night, you know,

1287
01:00:50,160 --> 01:00:52,960
Speaker 2: So that one certainly? Two five, I mean, who is

1288
01:00:52,960 --> 01:00:54,680
Speaker 2: the best guy two of five? I don't fucking know.

1289
01:00:54,720 --> 01:00:56,560
Speaker 2: I don't really have I kind of feel like, you know,

1290
01:00:56,560 --> 01:00:57,880
Speaker 2: I've got a champion.

1291
01:00:58,120 --> 01:01:01,120
Speaker 1: There's no champion, Luke, So that's that's it's a moot question.

1292
01:01:01,400 --> 01:01:03,840
Speaker 2: But even then, even if like there are even if

1293
01:01:03,880 --> 01:01:05,400
Speaker 2: none of the divisions had belts and I had to

1294
01:01:05,400 --> 01:01:06,920
Speaker 2: ask you, who do you think is the best guy

1295
01:01:06,960 --> 01:01:09,000
Speaker 2: to a five? You couldn't give me a definitive answer.

1296
01:01:09,040 --> 01:01:10,680
Speaker 2: You have to kind of guess at it. It's not

1297
01:01:11,160 --> 01:01:14,760
Speaker 2: it's not so clear. So so there's that. On the

1298
01:01:14,760 --> 01:01:18,320
Speaker 2: women's side, Grosso's pretty vulnerable because she has to beat

1299
01:01:18,360 --> 01:01:21,480
Speaker 2: Chevchenko twice back to back. That's fucking hard to do.

1300
01:01:21,720 --> 01:01:24,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, Wayley looks in a good spot even though she's been.

1301
01:01:24,720 --> 01:01:26,720
Speaker 2: She does, Yes, she does, she does. I'd say her

1302
01:01:26,760 --> 01:01:29,880
Speaker 2: position at least it feels more secure. I guess. We'll

1303
01:01:29,880 --> 01:01:30,560
Speaker 2: see what happens now.

1304
01:01:30,640 --> 01:01:32,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, Rose moved up in Wait, we've got a Mando

1305
01:01:32,680 --> 01:01:34,760
Speaker 1: lie most coming up for Whaley, you know, for better

1306
01:01:34,920 --> 01:01:38,600
Speaker 1: or for worse. Interesting topic posed by one Michael Chandler.

1307
01:01:38,640 --> 01:01:41,520
Speaker 1: Will see what his future brings. You want to see

1308
01:01:41,600 --> 01:01:44,200
Speaker 1: Chandler versus Volkanowski in any iteration, Luke, you think that

1309
01:01:44,200 --> 01:01:47,160
Speaker 1: could happen? Or no, in any form? Not next, I guess,

1310
01:01:47,200 --> 01:01:49,560
Speaker 1: but like no, not next for sure, But but in

1311
01:01:49,600 --> 01:01:50,200
Speaker 1: any form.

1312
01:01:50,080 --> 01:01:52,120
Speaker 2: I wouldn't say no to it. Yeah, I wouldn't say

1313
01:01:52,160 --> 01:01:53,920
Speaker 2: no to that at all. Again to your point next,

1314
01:01:53,960 --> 01:01:56,840
Speaker 2: I don't know, but in general sure, sure?

1315
01:01:57,000 --> 01:01:59,960
Speaker 1: All right? Topic number two Luke takes us to the

1316
01:02:00,200 --> 01:02:03,920
Speaker 1: inside the box right step three, put your wow wow.

1317
01:02:04,040 --> 01:02:06,600
Speaker 1: We will do that. Luke a couple cards of note

1318
01:02:06,600 --> 01:02:09,640
Speaker 1: this weekend, how about Las Vegas at the Cosmo Saturday

1319
01:02:09,720 --> 01:02:14,760
Speaker 1: night Showtime Championship Boxing has a tripleheader headlined by rising

1320
01:02:14,920 --> 01:02:20,320
Speaker 1: unbeaten lightweight Frank Martin Yes trained by Derek James, seventeen

1321
01:02:20,360 --> 01:02:23,760
Speaker 1: and oh with twelve KOs and fresh off a breakthrough

1322
01:02:24,160 --> 01:02:28,360
Speaker 1: dominant unanimous decision win over unbeaten Michelle Rivera to close

1323
01:02:28,480 --> 01:02:33,480
Speaker 1: last year. Luke will be welcoming Armenian born, German residing

1324
01:02:33,920 --> 01:02:38,520
Speaker 1: and unbeaten Artum Horrtunian twelve and oh with seven knockouts.

1325
01:02:38,800 --> 01:02:44,200
Speaker 1: He won Olympic bronze at the twenty sixteen Games for Germany,

1326
01:02:44,280 --> 01:02:46,760
Speaker 1: but this will be his US debut. Luke, it kind

1327
01:02:46,760 --> 01:02:50,400
Speaker 1: of feels in the you know, on paper, like let's

1328
01:02:50,400 --> 01:02:52,400
Speaker 1: set up a nice showcase here for Frank Martin, who

1329
01:02:52,440 --> 01:02:54,880
Speaker 1: could be a monster player in this one thirty five,

1330
01:02:55,000 --> 01:02:57,760
Speaker 1: one forty window with so many bright young stars. But

1331
01:02:58,200 --> 01:03:00,200
Speaker 1: you know we've done this before in boxing, and the

1332
01:03:00,280 --> 01:03:02,960
Speaker 1: reference point I always make when there's a tough fighter

1333
01:03:03,000 --> 01:03:05,400
Speaker 1: coming in making a US debut who we've never heard

1334
01:03:05,480 --> 01:03:08,880
Speaker 1: of is the slugger Ricardo Torres when he came in

1335
01:03:08,920 --> 01:03:11,080
Speaker 1: there against Miguel Coto back in two thousand and five,

1336
01:03:11,360 --> 01:03:14,920
Speaker 1: knocked him down, nearly upset him. Miguel Torres was a

1337
01:03:15,240 --> 01:03:19,840
Speaker 1: monster puncher, though I don't know if Artem Hartunian has

1338
01:03:19,880 --> 01:03:23,280
Speaker 1: that same reputation when you look at this matchup. We're

1339
01:03:23,280 --> 01:03:25,320
Speaker 1: going to tune in to see what Frank Martin's got.

1340
01:03:25,520 --> 01:03:28,400
Speaker 1: But can Armenia have a huge day with monster head

1341
01:03:28,400 --> 01:03:30,560
Speaker 1: movement and make this a real fight? What do your

1342
01:03:30,560 --> 01:03:31,520
Speaker 1: expectations come into?

1343
01:03:31,560 --> 01:03:33,360
Speaker 2: Say, No, I didn't see anything on tai I'm I'm

1344
01:03:33,360 --> 01:03:35,919
Speaker 2: not an expert Hartunian, but like having seen a few

1345
01:03:35,960 --> 01:03:39,200
Speaker 2: things what's online I didn't see. I mean, it's a

1346
01:03:39,200 --> 01:03:41,240
Speaker 2: tough fight against Frank Martin. Right, So for folks who

1347
01:03:41,240 --> 01:03:42,920
Speaker 2: don't know Frank, I mean you've kind of indicated. But

1348
01:03:42,960 --> 01:03:45,600
Speaker 2: Frank Martin, let's remind everyone this guy trains with Errol Spence,

1349
01:03:45,960 --> 01:03:48,520
Speaker 2: this guy trains with Jamel Charlow. Technically this is the

1350
01:03:48,520 --> 01:03:52,360
Speaker 2: same camp where Ryan Garcia is, where Anthony Joshua is,

1351
01:03:52,880 --> 01:03:55,400
Speaker 2: So like you know, he is in a very special

1352
01:03:55,440 --> 01:03:58,240
Speaker 2: elite camp for very special elite guys, and I like

1353
01:03:58,320 --> 01:04:01,040
Speaker 2: what his game brings. It's a little bit patient, it's

1354
01:04:01,280 --> 01:04:05,360
Speaker 2: very careful and yet still plenty offensive. And more importantly,

1355
01:04:05,440 --> 01:04:07,960
Speaker 2: you see, the thing that Frank Martin really thrives on

1356
01:04:08,160 --> 01:04:10,800
Speaker 2: is making guys make mistakes and then making them pay

1357
01:04:10,880 --> 01:04:13,520
Speaker 2: for it. He is very good at setting traps and

1358
01:04:13,520 --> 01:04:15,920
Speaker 2: then absolutely demolishing it. I've said it before, He's got

1359
01:04:15,960 --> 01:04:18,040
Speaker 2: maybe the best pull too counter I've seen in all

1360
01:04:18,080 --> 01:04:21,160
Speaker 2: of boxing. It's fucking absurd how good it is, how

1361
01:04:21,200 --> 01:04:23,480
Speaker 2: often he gets guys to make those over commitments and

1362
01:04:23,480 --> 01:04:26,840
Speaker 2: then he torches them for it in the most absurd ways.

1363
01:04:26,880 --> 01:04:31,920
Speaker 2: Frank Martin is. He's not the high IQ pressure fighter

1364
01:04:32,560 --> 01:04:35,400
Speaker 2: that Spence is. He's a little bit more careful and considerate.

1365
01:04:35,400 --> 01:04:37,560
Speaker 2: So this one could potentially go the distance. BCE, I

1366
01:04:37,560 --> 01:04:41,280
Speaker 2: don't think that's crazy. But he doesn't make a lot

1367
01:04:41,280 --> 01:04:44,920
Speaker 2: of errors. He is very fundamentally sound. He does have

1368
01:04:45,000 --> 01:04:48,560
Speaker 2: good power. He is excellent at setting traps and really

1369
01:04:48,880 --> 01:04:53,080
Speaker 2: really good at making guys pay for mistakes. I cannot

1370
01:04:53,160 --> 01:04:55,800
Speaker 2: overstate that enough. And I feel like Hartunian is gonna

1371
01:04:55,840 --> 01:04:57,840
Speaker 2: walk into a lot of shit. This is this is

1372
01:04:57,880 --> 01:05:00,800
Speaker 2: a fight where Frank Martin should win, and I'm gonna

1373
01:05:00,800 --> 01:05:02,000
Speaker 2: say by a comfortable margin.

1374
01:05:02,200 --> 01:05:05,080
Speaker 1: Well, Hartunian is aggressive, you know. It doesn't have a

1375
01:05:05,240 --> 01:05:07,919
Speaker 1: huge amount of power, but he is aggressive and makes

1376
01:05:08,000 --> 01:05:10,280
Speaker 1: fights happen. That's gonna mean that they're gonna collide in

1377
01:05:10,280 --> 01:05:12,200
Speaker 1: the center of the ring. And I'm picking the under

1378
01:05:12,200 --> 01:05:14,240
Speaker 1: here in the okay bet terms because I think Frank

1379
01:05:14,240 --> 01:05:17,720
Speaker 1: Martin is a better fighter and poised to continue this breakout.

1380
01:05:17,720 --> 01:05:20,960
Speaker 1: He's twenty eight years old, fights out of Indianapolis. Luke

1381
01:05:21,000 --> 01:05:24,920
Speaker 1: patrains there in Dallas and arguably the best camp in

1382
01:05:24,960 --> 01:05:27,400
Speaker 1: the sport. Right now, Why I love that a guy

1383
01:05:27,480 --> 01:05:30,560
Speaker 1: like Derek James is on top because he's a guy

1384
01:05:30,560 --> 01:05:33,360
Speaker 1: who he's the perfect kind of coach. He leans on

1385
01:05:33,440 --> 01:05:36,360
Speaker 1: defensive fundamentals. He was a former boxer himself. He's smart,

1386
01:05:36,840 --> 01:05:40,520
Speaker 1: but he trains killers who offensively can handle themselves. And

1387
01:05:40,680 --> 01:05:43,520
Speaker 1: in the second half of these fights, particularly, Dude, they

1388
01:05:43,560 --> 01:05:47,040
Speaker 1: go after it, right, Think Spence, think Jamel Charlo, think

1389
01:05:47,080 --> 01:05:49,960
Speaker 1: Frank Martin. But now we're adding in guys like Anthony

1390
01:05:50,040 --> 01:05:53,320
Speaker 1: Joshua and Ryan Garcia into the same gym. Dude, when

1391
01:05:53,320 --> 01:05:56,080
Speaker 1: you're rubbing elbows like that, you can only benefit that

1392
01:05:56,160 --> 01:05:58,000
Speaker 1: from that. If you're a guy like Frank Martin in

1393
01:05:58,120 --> 01:06:00,520
Speaker 1: this spot so pressures on him to come out and

1394
01:06:00,560 --> 01:06:02,919
Speaker 1: make a big statement. But that's what he's done. Last

1395
01:06:02,960 --> 01:06:05,800
Speaker 1: year he won three fights. He knocked out Romero, Duno,

1396
01:06:06,000 --> 01:06:08,160
Speaker 1: knocked out Jackson Marinez, a guy who we thought had

1397
01:06:08,200 --> 01:06:10,520
Speaker 1: beat Roly Romero for a world title, and then what

1398
01:06:10,560 --> 01:06:13,280
Speaker 1: he did to Michelle Rivera was like, Wow, open up

1399
01:06:13,320 --> 01:06:16,480
Speaker 1: your eyes. He's coming the hell on part of this

1400
01:06:16,480 --> 01:06:19,680
Speaker 1: triple header. By the way, Elvis Rodriguez, another one of

1401
01:06:19,720 --> 01:06:23,160
Speaker 1: these Dominican fighters, is making huge news. He did rebound

1402
01:06:23,160 --> 01:06:25,000
Speaker 1: from that upset loss he had to Kenneth Sims a

1403
01:06:25,000 --> 01:06:26,960
Speaker 1: few years back ago, but now he's welcome in former

1404
01:06:27,040 --> 01:06:29,080
Speaker 1: champ Victor post Stal. So this is a really good

1405
01:06:29,120 --> 01:06:31,480
Speaker 1: test of exactly where Elvis Rodriguez is.

1406
01:06:31,680 --> 01:06:31,800
Speaker 3: Uh.

1407
01:06:31,960 --> 01:06:33,960
Speaker 1: I believe Freddie Roach is his trainer. There's always you know,

1408
01:06:33,960 --> 01:06:36,480
Speaker 1: there's been big fanfare on him for years. Let's see

1409
01:06:36,480 --> 01:06:38,120
Speaker 1: if he can put that together. But if Frank Martin

1410
01:06:38,160 --> 01:06:40,520
Speaker 1: comes out of here, luke, so many big fights you

1411
01:06:40,520 --> 01:06:42,640
Speaker 1: can make for this guy at thirty five or forty

1412
01:06:42,680 --> 01:06:45,560
Speaker 1: if he wants to move up. I don't know. Man,

1413
01:06:45,800 --> 01:06:48,040
Speaker 1: could be could be a could be a monster breakthrough

1414
01:06:48,120 --> 01:06:49,960
Speaker 1: night Saturday evening showtime.

1415
01:06:50,520 --> 01:06:52,960
Speaker 2: I don't think it's next or how should I say this?

1416
01:06:53,960 --> 01:06:57,560
Speaker 2: If youre PBC and you have Tank Davis, you're probably

1417
01:06:57,640 --> 01:07:01,160
Speaker 2: thinking Davis hany maybe is a to get something whatever.

1418
01:07:01,280 --> 01:07:03,480
Speaker 2: But like if you're thinking in the PBC family, you

1419
01:07:03,520 --> 01:07:06,520
Speaker 2: could do the Cruise rematch. That's another one you could do.

1420
01:07:06,720 --> 01:07:08,439
Speaker 2: But the other one you could do is you could

1421
01:07:08,440 --> 01:07:11,880
Speaker 2: do Tank Davis versus Frank Martin. Now, I'll just be

1422
01:07:11,920 --> 01:07:15,040
Speaker 2: honest with you, that's a tough fight for Tank Davis.

1423
01:07:15,280 --> 01:07:18,120
Speaker 2: Tank obviously is a talent, an exceptional one, one of

1424
01:07:18,160 --> 01:07:19,880
Speaker 2: the best power punchers we have in all of boxing.

1425
01:07:19,880 --> 01:07:22,000
Speaker 2: But I'm gonna be I'm gonna stay it one more time, dude,

1426
01:07:22,040 --> 01:07:25,120
Speaker 2: Frank Martin has an air tight game, does not make

1427
01:07:25,160 --> 01:07:27,680
Speaker 2: a lot of mistakes. You never, I won't say never.

1428
01:07:27,920 --> 01:07:32,400
Speaker 2: You rarely see him get hit cleanly. He has good positioning,

1429
01:07:32,440 --> 01:07:35,200
Speaker 2: his balance is good, his distance management is good. Like

1430
01:07:35,240 --> 01:07:38,919
Speaker 2: he is fundam menally sound. That's a direction you could

1431
01:07:38,920 --> 01:07:40,640
Speaker 2: go too. I don't think it's crazy. BC. Tell me

1432
01:07:40,640 --> 01:07:42,360
Speaker 2: if I'm missing something. I know one thirty five. Maybe

1433
01:07:42,360 --> 01:07:43,480
Speaker 2: Tank doesn't want to go there. I wants to go

1434
01:07:43,480 --> 01:07:45,800
Speaker 2: to one forty. But if he's gonna stick around one

1435
01:07:45,880 --> 01:07:49,840
Speaker 2: thirty five. Tank Davis versus Frank Martin not the craziest.

1436
01:07:49,400 --> 01:07:51,400
Speaker 1: Idea, you know, No, No, that was the idea I

1437
01:07:51,440 --> 01:07:54,919
Speaker 1: had after Frank Martin beat Michelle, or year after Tank

1438
01:07:54,960 --> 01:07:57,720
Speaker 1: beat Ryan. It was, you know what, maybe we start

1439
01:07:57,760 --> 01:08:00,920
Speaker 1: building in that direction. That would be a very very difficult,

1440
01:08:00,920 --> 01:08:04,320
Speaker 1: look difficult fight for Tank and Tank. Lucas is currently incarcerated,

1441
01:08:04,320 --> 01:08:06,360
Speaker 1: but I have to assume when he comes out later

1442
01:08:06,400 --> 01:08:08,560
Speaker 1: this year, he's gonna be fired up to get back

1443
01:08:08,560 --> 01:08:10,400
Speaker 1: in the mix. And I mean, that's the best thing

1444
01:08:10,400 --> 01:08:13,680
Speaker 1: that can happen outside of they're trying, but outside of

1445
01:08:13,720 --> 01:08:16,240
Speaker 1: the best facing the best in this one thirty five

1446
01:08:16,320 --> 01:08:19,280
Speaker 1: to one forty window, regardless of side of the street

1447
01:08:19,560 --> 01:08:22,599
Speaker 1: they're trying, right, Ryan Garcia fought Tank. We're making you know, look,

1448
01:08:22,880 --> 01:08:25,599
Speaker 1: Fulton's fight in a new way off of a PBC

1449
01:08:25,680 --> 01:08:27,760
Speaker 1: network coming up on July twenty fifth. So we're seeing

1450
01:08:27,760 --> 01:08:30,000
Speaker 1: people try this. But the best thing that can happen

1451
01:08:30,080 --> 01:08:32,599
Speaker 1: if they can't fight each other is for each one

1452
01:08:32,640 --> 01:08:35,120
Speaker 1: to come out and one up one another and sort

1453
01:08:35,120 --> 01:08:37,439
Speaker 1: of like put the pressure on them to go out

1454
01:08:37,680 --> 01:08:42,160
Speaker 1: seek bigger names, create bigger moments, to continuously prove who

1455
01:08:42,240 --> 01:08:43,920
Speaker 1: is the best. And you know, I talk about it

1456
01:08:43,960 --> 01:08:45,720
Speaker 1: a lot, Luke that I feel like the climate has

1457
01:08:45,840 --> 01:08:48,080
Speaker 1: changed for the young American fighter fighters. Hunks and boots

1458
01:08:48,120 --> 01:08:50,439
Speaker 1: at us about that, and he agreed, like they want

1459
01:08:50,479 --> 01:08:52,519
Speaker 1: it now. I mean, look, you know, millennials, they don't

1460
01:08:52,520 --> 01:08:55,599
Speaker 1: want to wait, they want it now. That's gonna continue

1461
01:08:55,640 --> 01:08:57,880
Speaker 1: to play into our hands there as old wash guys

1462
01:08:58,040 --> 01:09:00,479
Speaker 1: who want to reclaim that glory of these seventies and

1463
01:09:00,560 --> 01:09:03,040
Speaker 1: eighties and nineties when you watch the sport. I want

1464
01:09:03,080 --> 01:09:06,639
Speaker 1: fighters to care too much about the Internet chatter and

1465
01:09:06,680 --> 01:09:08,720
Speaker 1: want to prove their greatness. You know, that's what we

1466
01:09:08,760 --> 01:09:12,200
Speaker 1: want for sure. Indeed, all right, Also this weekend, Luke,

1467
01:09:12,280 --> 01:09:16,719
Speaker 1: Saturday from the Masonic Hall, the historic one in Detroit.

1468
01:09:17,120 --> 01:09:20,160
Speaker 1: It's going to go down on his own. Alicia Baumgardner,

1469
01:09:20,600 --> 01:09:24,360
Speaker 1: your undisputed women's champion at one hundred and thirty pounds,

1470
01:09:24,360 --> 01:09:27,639
Speaker 1: will defend all four belts in against the only fighter

1471
01:09:27,680 --> 01:09:31,880
Speaker 1: to beat her as a professional. That's Christina Lenard to

1472
01:09:31,920 --> 01:09:35,559
Speaker 1: the two. I'm butchering that name, but Luke, they fought

1473
01:09:35,680 --> 01:09:39,240
Speaker 1: to an eight round decision back by the way in

1474
01:09:39,520 --> 01:09:41,840
Speaker 1: uh what was it three four years ago? I'm trying

1475
01:09:41,840 --> 01:09:43,479
Speaker 1: to read my own notes here. Look, I'm trying to

1476
01:09:43,479 --> 01:09:44,680
Speaker 1: get you excited about this.

1477
01:09:46,080 --> 01:09:49,639
Speaker 2: She won the split decision seventy seven to seventy five,

1478
01:09:50,080 --> 01:09:52,160
Speaker 2: onto the other way seventy five.

1479
01:09:52,240 --> 01:09:55,360
Speaker 1: So twenty eighteen, they fought very close fight. Leonardo too

1480
01:09:55,439 --> 01:09:58,280
Speaker 1: got the decision. Luke. From there, the thirty five year

1481
01:09:58,280 --> 01:10:00,320
Speaker 1: old from Greece has gone on to big things. She

1482
01:10:00,400 --> 01:10:02,559
Speaker 1: lost to Delphine pursued later that year, who of course,

1483
01:10:02,600 --> 01:10:05,160
Speaker 1: gave Katie Taylor to amazing fights, and then she worked

1484
01:10:05,160 --> 01:10:07,719
Speaker 1: her way back into a title unification bout with Katie

1485
01:10:07,720 --> 01:10:11,600
Speaker 1: Taylor and dropped that fight in twenty nineteen. So this

1486
01:10:11,680 --> 01:10:14,439
Speaker 1: is a big moment for Bombgartner Luke, who had unified

1487
01:10:14,479 --> 01:10:17,720
Speaker 1: titles in this division by upsetting Mikayla Mayer and that

1488
01:10:17,760 --> 01:10:20,479
Speaker 1: fun fight in twenty twenty two, and then she became

1489
01:10:20,520 --> 01:10:24,880
Speaker 1: the undisputed champion when she beat Elham Mekhaled in February

1490
01:10:25,160 --> 01:10:28,960
Speaker 1: for the fourth and vacant belt that fight. Look, in

1491
01:10:29,040 --> 01:10:31,559
Speaker 1: women's boxing, Luke, there's only a certain amount of e leits.

1492
01:10:31,560 --> 01:10:33,479
Speaker 1: We love when they fight each other. But I think

1493
01:10:33,479 --> 01:10:36,439
Speaker 1: Alicia Bamgardner is becoming musty in that degree that like

1494
01:10:36,920 --> 01:10:39,320
Speaker 1: there's a plus level to her game. I mean, she's

1495
01:10:39,360 --> 01:10:43,080
Speaker 1: figured out. She's always been elusive and quick, but she's

1496
01:10:43,120 --> 01:10:45,680
Speaker 1: really working on technique. Tony Harrison in her corner and

1497
01:10:46,080 --> 01:10:48,640
Speaker 1: she's becoming something right here. So hey, let's give her

1498
01:10:48,640 --> 01:10:50,439
Speaker 1: a chance to run back against the only person to

1499
01:10:50,439 --> 01:10:52,040
Speaker 1: beat her as a pro. I can get down with

1500
01:10:52,080 --> 01:10:52,720
Speaker 1: that storyline.

1501
01:10:52,800 --> 01:10:55,160
Speaker 2: You And she's a dog like she kind of out

1502
01:10:55,200 --> 01:10:57,720
Speaker 2: dogged Mikayla Mayor. Yes, there was more than that. It was.

1503
01:10:57,760 --> 01:11:01,000
Speaker 2: You know, obviously he's the sweet science, but you would

1504
01:11:01,000 --> 01:11:03,280
Speaker 2: be wrong to deny that she's got some dog in

1505
01:11:03,320 --> 01:11:07,000
Speaker 2: her and she's got some fire, and I think it's

1506
01:11:07,000 --> 01:11:09,720
Speaker 2: that carries her in fights, but also it carries her

1507
01:11:09,760 --> 01:11:12,960
Speaker 2: competitively as a mindset into what you're talking about exactly, BC,

1508
01:11:13,080 --> 01:11:14,639
Speaker 2: which is, I gotta get this one back, I gotta

1509
01:11:14,640 --> 01:11:16,880
Speaker 2: get the I gotta beat you, gotta do the GSP thing.

1510
01:11:16,920 --> 01:11:19,080
Speaker 2: I gotta beat all the guys who beat me in

1511
01:11:19,080 --> 01:11:20,240
Speaker 2: this particular case, the lady.

1512
01:11:20,320 --> 01:11:23,640
Speaker 1: So indeed, she's as a very dangerous counterpuncher. And she

1513
01:11:23,680 --> 01:11:25,680
Speaker 1: had a good quote in regards to the impact of

1514
01:11:25,720 --> 01:11:28,000
Speaker 1: that loss. She said it was needed for growth, and

1515
01:11:28,040 --> 01:11:30,840
Speaker 1: I want people to recognize what growth looks like it's ugly,

1516
01:11:31,160 --> 01:11:33,400
Speaker 1: it hurts, but there's light at the end of the tunnel,

1517
01:11:33,400 --> 01:11:36,599
Speaker 1: and it tells a story. Her story of coming back

1518
01:11:36,640 --> 01:11:38,400
Speaker 1: from that has been strong, Luke. She's one of the

1519
01:11:38,439 --> 01:11:40,120
Speaker 1: top pound for pump fighters in the game at the

1520
01:11:40,160 --> 01:11:43,320
Speaker 1: moment this car, though Luke got brutally depleted. We're supposed

1521
01:11:43,320 --> 01:11:45,640
Speaker 1: to see Richardson Hitchins versus Montana Love, which would have

1522
01:11:45,640 --> 01:11:47,599
Speaker 1: been a good you know, two up and coming guys

1523
01:11:47,600 --> 01:11:49,800
Speaker 1: against one another. That's one of three fights that just

1524
01:11:49,800 --> 01:11:53,360
Speaker 1: got canceled in the last few days. So eventually, even I

1525
01:11:53,479 --> 01:11:55,280
Speaker 1: was gonna say, eventually we're going to get a MICHAELA.

1526
01:11:55,360 --> 01:11:59,200
Speaker 1: May Or Bombgartner rematch because that fight was so disputed afterwards,

1527
01:11:59,280 --> 01:12:02,240
Speaker 1: but Ma moved on to one forty Luke. She said

1528
01:12:02,280 --> 01:12:05,719
Speaker 1: her body is naturally growing, so she went in that direction.

1529
01:12:05,840 --> 01:12:07,680
Speaker 2: They'll fight again, They'll fight again.

1530
01:12:07,840 --> 01:12:10,760
Speaker 1: All right, all right, Luke, time for topic three. I

1531
01:12:10,760 --> 01:12:13,240
Speaker 1: want to get some quick combat sports reactions out of

1532
01:12:13,240 --> 01:12:15,920
Speaker 1: you from some of the things that have sifted like

1533
01:12:16,080 --> 01:12:19,960
Speaker 1: sand through the screen here on the Combat Sports News sphere.

1534
01:12:20,520 --> 01:12:26,960
Speaker 1: Let's go to your new UFC flyweight champion, Alexandre Pantosia.

1535
01:12:27,479 --> 01:12:29,320
Speaker 1: How do you pronounce his first name? Collect correct?

1536
01:12:29,320 --> 01:12:33,320
Speaker 2: Delete Luke as I understand it. It's al A Chandre.

1537
01:12:33,320 --> 01:12:37,519
Speaker 1: Ala Chandre Pantosia. We had sort of referenced it, or

1538
01:12:37,520 --> 01:12:39,600
Speaker 1: maybe we didn't, but it needs referencing. He was on

1539
01:12:39,640 --> 01:12:43,840
Speaker 1: the MMR with Ariel Hawani talking about what this win

1540
01:12:44,040 --> 01:12:48,200
Speaker 1: means in terms of life changing financials from where he

1541
01:12:48,400 --> 01:12:51,240
Speaker 1: was just recently. This is if you didn't hear it,

1542
01:12:51,360 --> 01:12:52,720
Speaker 1: or even if you already heard, it's time to hear

1543
01:12:52,720 --> 01:12:53,960
Speaker 1: it again. This is a crazy story.

1544
01:12:54,000 --> 01:12:57,559
Speaker 6: Let's listen in and my wife he started to clean

1545
01:12:57,800 --> 01:13:02,439
Speaker 6: houses and I'm start to Ubert. But this is like

1546
01:13:02,479 --> 01:13:05,080
Speaker 6: a I do this again if you if I need

1547
01:13:05,160 --> 01:13:09,760
Speaker 6: you know, because it's not just about like myself. Just

1548
01:13:09,840 --> 01:13:12,400
Speaker 6: this about my family, you know, just about my kids.

1549
01:13:13,200 --> 01:13:16,800
Speaker 6: My two boys now both have the better English, much

1550
01:13:16,840 --> 01:13:20,400
Speaker 6: better what I have, what I'm never gonna have. And

1551
01:13:20,560 --> 01:13:26,000
Speaker 6: uh I give you like a h like a support

1552
01:13:26,040 --> 01:13:29,439
Speaker 6: for my kids, you know. And uh I drive Ubert,

1553
01:13:29,960 --> 01:13:35,519
Speaker 6: I make some jiu jitsus tournaments to help. And uh

1554
01:13:35,680 --> 01:13:38,040
Speaker 6: after the fight with the roy vout one week before

1555
01:13:38,080 --> 01:13:44,360
Speaker 6: that fight, I'm delivered uber uber ita and uh that's

1556
01:13:44,439 --> 01:13:48,559
Speaker 6: running and uh I'm sick and when I go to

1557
01:13:48,600 --> 01:13:51,639
Speaker 6: the fight week, I'm very sick and I'm very scared

1558
01:13:51,680 --> 01:13:55,680
Speaker 6: to take the COVID again, you know, and I just

1559
01:13:55,800 --> 01:13:59,360
Speaker 6: pray to it's not bit a COVID because I just

1560
01:13:59,439 --> 01:14:02,320
Speaker 6: have like a a month for my bills, you know,

1561
01:14:03,680 --> 01:14:07,120
Speaker 6: and the and then when I make the the the

1562
01:14:07,280 --> 01:14:11,200
Speaker 6: weights and everything's okay, I just say thank you for

1563
01:14:11,280 --> 01:14:14,760
Speaker 6: God because I have my injury and my knee, I

1564
01:14:14,760 --> 01:14:18,960
Speaker 6: have my cl like a computer broken, you know, and

1565
01:14:19,000 --> 01:14:21,880
Speaker 6: I have sick and but when I get the money

1566
01:14:21,880 --> 01:14:25,800
Speaker 6: off the fight, you know, I know, okay, that's good.

1567
01:14:25,880 --> 01:14:27,600
Speaker 6: I have like a six month to leave, you know.

1568
01:14:28,600 --> 01:14:31,280
Speaker 6: But then God gave me the fight. I win the fight,

1569
01:14:31,360 --> 01:14:35,200
Speaker 6: and I win the bonus and I can make my seriously,

1570
01:14:35,400 --> 01:14:38,400
Speaker 6: I can like a relax for a couple of months,

1571
01:14:38,400 --> 01:14:42,120
Speaker 6: you know, doing my serious and recover good. And uh,

1572
01:14:42,680 --> 01:14:45,200
Speaker 6: I have like the best wife of my side, you know,

1573
01:14:46,240 --> 01:14:49,920
Speaker 6: this issus woman give me all supports I have and

1574
01:14:50,000 --> 01:14:52,720
Speaker 6: give me all the power to keep going, you know.

1575
01:14:53,520 --> 01:14:56,439
Speaker 6: And if you have like a one good wife, you

1576
01:14:56,439 --> 01:14:57,320
Speaker 6: can do everything.

1577
01:14:59,400 --> 01:15:05,040
Speaker 1: I mean, that's it's humbling as shit. Obviously, his moment

1578
01:15:05,080 --> 01:15:08,080
Speaker 1: on Saturday was you know it touched you. It gave

1579
01:15:08,080 --> 01:15:10,000
Speaker 1: you the feels in so many real ways. But Luke,

1580
01:15:10,080 --> 01:15:15,960
Speaker 1: that's the current UFC fight structure on display, meaning they

1581
01:15:15,960 --> 01:15:19,479
Speaker 1: create this scenario where you can literally go from nothing

1582
01:15:19,560 --> 01:15:23,080
Speaker 1: to something and become that one percent overnight. That sometimes

1583
01:15:23,080 --> 01:15:27,600
Speaker 1: it creates insane performances like Pantosian Moreno put on now.

1584
01:15:27,640 --> 01:15:30,200
Speaker 1: On Pantosi's case, the reason I think he wanted Luke

1585
01:15:30,320 --> 01:15:34,880
Speaker 1: was will just constantly risking it all over and over

1586
01:15:35,000 --> 01:15:38,360
Speaker 1: again and pushing through. That's kind of what this structure

1587
01:15:38,479 --> 01:15:41,520
Speaker 1: for better or worse in a lot case, worse creates

1588
01:15:41,880 --> 01:15:45,719
Speaker 1: that like rabid hunger to produce these all time great fights.

1589
01:15:46,000 --> 01:15:47,840
Speaker 1: I'm so glad that he got over that hill and

1590
01:15:47,880 --> 01:15:51,400
Speaker 1: now he can reap the rewards. But like, think of

1591
01:15:51,439 --> 01:15:53,720
Speaker 1: the guys who give all and can't get over that.

1592
01:15:53,760 --> 01:15:56,160
Speaker 1: Think of Josh Emmittt, think of that. It's like, damn,

1593
01:15:56,240 --> 01:15:56,960
Speaker 1: is this the right way?

1594
01:15:58,200 --> 01:15:59,960
Speaker 2: Well, I mean it's quite obviously not the right way.

1595
01:16:00,280 --> 01:16:02,640
Speaker 2: We should just say what the truth is, which is

1596
01:16:02,680 --> 01:16:04,400
Speaker 2: that there is I want to be very clear, not

1597
01:16:04,439 --> 01:16:07,080
Speaker 2: that we're suggesting anything other than that, but I want

1598
01:16:07,120 --> 01:16:10,599
Speaker 2: to make my opinion very not murky. Right. There is

1599
01:16:10,640 --> 01:16:14,680
Speaker 2: not a thing in any way wrong with working for

1600
01:16:14,800 --> 01:16:17,719
Speaker 2: Uber Eats of course, or your wife having to clean homes,

1601
01:16:17,720 --> 01:16:21,200
Speaker 2: Like there's nothing disreputable or you should be looking down

1602
01:16:21,280 --> 01:16:25,519
Speaker 2: upon it. We had a family friend, in fact, they

1603
01:16:25,560 --> 01:16:28,160
Speaker 2: lost their job and couldn't do anything else, but you know,

1604
01:16:28,560 --> 01:16:31,600
Speaker 2: drive uber to so they didn't lose their apartment, you know,

1605
01:16:31,680 --> 01:16:32,880
Speaker 2: and it worked out for them. They now have a

1606
01:16:32,960 --> 01:16:34,920
Speaker 2: job on the other side. But like there's nothing wrong

1607
01:16:35,000 --> 01:16:36,920
Speaker 2: with that, or people who make it a career in general.

1608
01:16:37,080 --> 01:16:39,519
Speaker 2: Or dude, I know this guy who moved here from

1609
01:16:39,600 --> 01:16:43,800
Speaker 2: Venezuela and the only thing he really could do was

1610
01:16:43,880 --> 01:16:47,880
Speaker 2: drive Uber and he does it sixteen hours a day,

1611
01:16:47,920 --> 01:16:49,920
Speaker 2: every seven days a week. Like he's working himself, you know,

1612
01:16:50,000 --> 01:16:52,280
Speaker 2: to death, trying to provide for his family. Like I

1613
01:16:52,360 --> 01:16:54,559
Speaker 2: have great respect for people who hustle like that. That's

1614
01:16:54,560 --> 01:16:57,599
Speaker 2: a survivor's mentality that you saw. So I want to say,

1615
01:16:58,040 --> 01:17:00,120
Speaker 2: I'm about to say, like what he shouldn't be doing,

1616
01:17:00,120 --> 01:17:02,360
Speaker 2: he should not be driving ubreats. But I don't want

1617
01:17:02,400 --> 01:17:04,320
Speaker 2: people to say what I'm saying this is some kind

1618
01:17:04,360 --> 01:17:06,880
Speaker 2: of disreputable job. That's quite the opposite. Like this guy

1619
01:17:06,920 --> 01:17:09,320
Speaker 2: has a great husband and a great father, and he

1620
01:17:09,360 --> 01:17:13,000
Speaker 2: has a survivor's mentality, and that's what kept him afloat. Rather,

1621
01:17:13,080 --> 01:17:15,920
Speaker 2: what I am saying is he's having to do all

1622
01:17:15,960 --> 01:17:18,120
Speaker 2: of that while being one of the very best fighters

1623
01:17:18,160 --> 01:17:21,439
Speaker 2: in his weight class at a time in a year

1624
01:17:21,520 --> 01:17:23,880
Speaker 2: where the UFC that year he's talking about, they made

1625
01:17:23,880 --> 01:17:29,280
Speaker 2: three hundred and eighty seven million dollars in profit profit right,

1626
01:17:29,320 --> 01:17:32,000
Speaker 2: they had that to go around, and he has to

1627
01:17:32,040 --> 01:17:34,640
Speaker 2: show up and deliver people nachos, and he has his

1628
01:17:34,720 --> 01:17:37,400
Speaker 2: wife has to go in the clean people's bathrooms. And

1629
01:17:37,400 --> 01:17:41,040
Speaker 2: that's not disreputable, But why the fuck do they have

1630
01:17:41,160 --> 01:17:43,960
Speaker 2: to do that in a world where Dana White has

1631
01:17:44,080 --> 01:17:46,800
Speaker 2: a closet that is so full at his office he

1632
01:17:46,800 --> 01:17:50,160
Speaker 2: doesn't even have to go home to pack. Complex went

1633
01:17:50,200 --> 01:17:53,200
Speaker 2: through his sneakers in his office and he I mean,

1634
01:17:53,240 --> 01:17:55,720
Speaker 2: you could make a forty minute reel out of how

1635
01:17:55,720 --> 01:17:58,040
Speaker 2: many times he said, I've actually literally never worn those.

1636
01:17:58,040 --> 01:18:00,840
Speaker 2: And I'm not against Dana White being rich. We're having

1637
01:18:00,880 --> 01:18:05,000
Speaker 2: extraordinarily wealth, But who the fuck in their right mind

1638
01:18:05,520 --> 01:18:08,160
Speaker 2: can look at the same week a revelation where Dana

1639
01:18:08,160 --> 01:18:10,519
Speaker 2: White has a closet like this and that one of

1640
01:18:10,520 --> 01:18:13,240
Speaker 2: the very very best fighters on his roster, literally one

1641
01:18:13,280 --> 01:18:16,360
Speaker 2: of the very best fighters on his roster, doesn't know

1642
01:18:16,400 --> 01:18:18,639
Speaker 2: where the money is gonna come from if he gets

1643
01:18:18,640 --> 01:18:20,800
Speaker 2: derailed before he can even make it to fight week

1644
01:18:20,840 --> 01:18:23,840
Speaker 2: because Uber eats and cleaning houses is not enough. And

1645
01:18:24,080 --> 01:18:29,080
Speaker 2: think and really truly think that this is the best

1646
01:18:29,160 --> 01:18:32,320
Speaker 2: way to do things, that this is a fair share

1647
01:18:33,120 --> 01:18:35,519
Speaker 2: going to the guys putting the most on the line.

1648
01:18:35,560 --> 01:18:37,400
Speaker 2: You gotta be out of your fucking mind to think

1649
01:18:37,439 --> 01:18:41,040
Speaker 2: something like that that it means quite obviously, this is

1650
01:18:41,080 --> 01:18:45,280
Speaker 2: the worst fucking way to be doing this. So you know,

1651
01:18:45,400 --> 01:18:47,400
Speaker 2: you see, I mean, I please chime in here. I

1652
01:18:47,439 --> 01:18:49,880
Speaker 2: just want to add, we're not in any way putting

1653
01:18:49,880 --> 01:18:53,719
Speaker 2: down people who got to work hard and the laves

1654
01:18:53,720 --> 01:18:56,240
Speaker 2: we're living. No, no, because I'm what I'm saying is

1655
01:18:56,479 --> 01:18:58,479
Speaker 2: why the fuck is this guy working Uber eats? Not

1656
01:18:58,479 --> 01:19:00,720
Speaker 2: because it's shameful, but because he's a fun high level

1657
01:19:00,760 --> 01:19:02,000
Speaker 2: pro athletes.

1658
01:19:01,680 --> 01:19:04,040
Speaker 1: Right and he had been a high level guy. And

1659
01:19:03,560 --> 01:19:06,840
Speaker 1: I don't mean to do the Evil Empire UFC thing.

1660
01:19:06,840 --> 01:19:08,960
Speaker 1: While all these guys suffer, like, not every situation is

1661
01:19:08,960 --> 01:19:11,040
Speaker 1: the same. Not everybody manages their money that they do

1662
01:19:11,120 --> 01:19:13,840
Speaker 1: make the same. There's so many scenarios, but it was

1663
01:19:13,960 --> 01:19:16,240
Speaker 1: just a few years ago that I remember Jessica Andrage.

1664
01:19:16,320 --> 01:19:19,680
Speaker 1: After having been UFC champion, there was a headline that

1665
01:19:19,680 --> 01:19:22,000
Speaker 1: said she had to sell all of her memorabilia and

1666
01:19:22,040 --> 01:19:23,519
Speaker 1: the fight kids that she wore in the in the

1667
01:19:23,640 --> 01:19:27,400
Speaker 1: in the championship fights just to afford the next training camp.

1668
01:19:28,080 --> 01:19:30,080
Speaker 1: And then you also saw Look, I don't know if

1669
01:19:30,080 --> 01:19:33,000
Speaker 1: you remember that Jessica ended up posing nude for photos.

1670
01:19:33,160 --> 01:19:35,320
Speaker 1: I read a story in the past six months where

1671
01:19:35,720 --> 01:19:38,559
Speaker 1: she said she obviously deeply regret I mean obviously, which

1672
01:19:38,560 --> 01:19:41,040
Speaker 1: is because not a very you have my point. She

1673
01:19:41,200 --> 01:19:43,880
Speaker 1: regrets it. She felt forced into it, and looking back

1674
01:19:43,880 --> 01:19:46,639
Speaker 1: in that time, she said she was willing to get

1675
01:19:46,640 --> 01:19:48,920
Speaker 1: exploited and knew she was doing something that she didn't

1676
01:19:48,960 --> 01:19:51,599
Speaker 1: want to because she had had no literally no other

1677
01:19:51,640 --> 01:19:54,920
Speaker 1: way in that moment to kind of afford the lifestyle.

1678
01:19:54,960 --> 01:19:56,880
Speaker 1: You need to be at your peak to be able

1679
01:19:56,880 --> 01:20:00,880
Speaker 1: to win these fights. And that's where that's where the

1680
01:20:00,920 --> 01:20:03,479
Speaker 1: sypstems broken. That's where the structure's broken, you know, and

1681
01:20:03,680 --> 01:20:05,920
Speaker 1: and and so many fighters on the way up in

1682
01:20:05,960 --> 01:20:09,080
Speaker 1: all combat sports have to juggle sometimes full time jobs, right.

1683
01:20:09,120 --> 01:20:11,200
Speaker 1: I see it even on the showbox level, where guys

1684
01:20:11,200 --> 01:20:13,720
Speaker 1: are like, you know, full time manual labors. But you know,

1685
01:20:13,720 --> 01:20:15,160
Speaker 1: if they can win this fight, they can get to

1686
01:20:15,160 --> 01:20:16,840
Speaker 1: the title level and they can do it full time.

1687
01:20:17,320 --> 01:20:19,920
Speaker 1: Due a guy like Pantosia was like, already past that,

1688
01:20:20,040 --> 01:20:23,160
Speaker 1: already there, so to see this struggle, it's yeah, it

1689
01:20:23,200 --> 01:20:26,120
Speaker 1: is rough, Luke, It's it's pretty damn rough. What I

1690
01:20:26,160 --> 01:20:28,360
Speaker 1: loved about that complex interview was not just every pair

1691
01:20:28,360 --> 01:20:30,880
Speaker 1: of Daya's like I've never worn those. I've never worn those,

1692
01:20:30,880 --> 01:20:33,000
Speaker 1: and it became a montage. He would mix in a

1693
01:20:33,080 --> 01:20:35,479
Speaker 1: lot that was a gift from this famous person, and

1694
01:20:35,920 --> 01:20:37,720
Speaker 1: I never fucking be caught dead in those. So it

1695
01:20:37,760 --> 01:20:40,040
Speaker 1: was like one after another, like, oh yeah, if I

1696
01:20:40,120 --> 01:20:41,519
Speaker 1: never won those, I never.

1697
01:20:41,360 --> 01:20:43,880
Speaker 2: Would shit Like does Dana White have a right to

1698
01:20:43,880 --> 01:20:46,160
Speaker 2: be rich? Yes, of course, of course he has a

1699
01:20:46,240 --> 01:20:48,720
Speaker 2: right to be fabulously wealthy. Like I don't really take

1700
01:20:48,760 --> 01:20:51,120
Speaker 2: issue with any of that. But what I am saying

1701
01:20:51,200 --> 01:20:53,760
Speaker 2: is if the company that he is running in the

1702
01:20:53,920 --> 01:20:56,519
Speaker 2: year where one of their very best fighters is like

1703
01:20:56,680 --> 01:21:01,280
Speaker 2: living hand to mouth and they three hundred and eighty

1704
01:21:01,280 --> 01:21:03,559
Speaker 2: seven million dollars in profit, you have to be fucking

1705
01:21:03,720 --> 01:21:06,920
Speaker 2: deranged to think that the fighters are getting an equitable share.

1706
01:21:06,960 --> 01:21:08,639
Speaker 2: You have to be completely out of your mind.

1707
01:21:09,240 --> 01:21:12,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, indeed, Luke, George Saint Pierre, he had breaking news

1708
01:21:12,600 --> 01:21:15,639
Speaker 1: during International Fight Week from the standpoint that he'll be

1709
01:21:15,760 --> 01:21:18,960
Speaker 1: grappling in a UFC Fight Pass Invitational in the future.

1710
01:21:19,320 --> 01:21:21,880
Speaker 1: So a lot of fun fantasy matchmaking. If you get

1711
01:21:21,920 --> 01:21:23,760
Speaker 1: down like that, I know you do. I don't tend

1712
01:21:23,760 --> 01:21:26,439
Speaker 1: to get excited about these, Luke, but the matchups are

1713
01:21:26,479 --> 01:21:29,040
Speaker 1: interesting that are being thrown around, and then people ask

1714
01:21:29,120 --> 01:21:32,280
Speaker 1: GSP himself and by people. I believe it was Ariel saying,

1715
01:21:32,720 --> 01:21:35,879
Speaker 1: who would be your preferred opponent for this type of spectacle.

1716
01:21:35,960 --> 01:21:41,240
Speaker 7: Let's listen in the many guys that could be an

1717
01:21:41,280 --> 01:21:45,000
Speaker 7: option that there are guys that are vet iron fighters

1718
01:21:46,160 --> 01:21:47,919
Speaker 7: that I have a good grappling background.

1719
01:21:48,040 --> 01:21:48,800
Speaker 1: I'm talking about.

1720
01:21:48,800 --> 01:21:53,320
Speaker 7: Maybe the Diaz brothers could be a guy I don't

1721
01:21:53,320 --> 01:21:57,000
Speaker 7: know what, I'm a competitive guy and a something like that.

1722
01:21:57,080 --> 01:21:59,599
Speaker 7: Maybe I think that fans will will want one want

1723
01:21:59,640 --> 01:22:02,280
Speaker 7: at the or it could be someone that is active,

1724
01:22:02,520 --> 01:22:03,320
Speaker 7: you know right now that.

1725
01:22:03,400 --> 01:22:04,960
Speaker 1: Is truantly active.

1726
01:22:06,920 --> 01:22:10,160
Speaker 7: I don't know Usman Covict and something someone like this.

1727
01:22:12,360 --> 01:22:13,200
Speaker 2: You know, it depends.

1728
01:22:13,680 --> 01:22:17,080
Speaker 7: I want to give the I think it's up to

1729
01:22:17,080 --> 01:22:19,759
Speaker 7: to the audience to choose who they would like to see,

1730
01:22:20,360 --> 01:22:22,759
Speaker 7: and I think it needs to be a formidable upon

1731
01:22:22,680 --> 01:22:25,959
Speaker 7: it too, like someone that is from a grappling background.

1732
01:22:27,240 --> 01:22:30,120
Speaker 7: I'm not really an interest on fighting someone who's more

1733
01:22:30,240 --> 01:22:32,760
Speaker 7: like from only a striking background.

1734
01:22:34,720 --> 01:22:37,640
Speaker 1: Look, I saw a lot of fans say Habib was

1735
01:22:37,720 --> 01:22:39,920
Speaker 1: their choice. But doesn't this just feel like a tease

1736
01:22:40,000 --> 01:22:42,000
Speaker 1: though I don't know, I don't, I don't know, it's

1737
01:22:42,040 --> 01:22:43,760
Speaker 1: just like a tease. It's like we should have seen

1738
01:22:43,800 --> 01:22:45,880
Speaker 1: these guys fight in the MMA cage. I don't know.

1739
01:22:46,240 --> 01:22:49,439
Speaker 2: I'd still love to see them compete in grappling. Actually

1740
01:22:49,439 --> 01:22:52,320
Speaker 2: think that's a great idea. But I will say I saw, like,

1741
01:22:52,560 --> 01:22:55,519
Speaker 2: for example, this is one of the problems with like

1742
01:22:55,600 --> 01:22:57,680
Speaker 2: trying to get NIMA fighters to do grappling, which you know,

1743
01:22:57,680 --> 01:22:59,519
Speaker 2: Saint Pierre's a black belt and a very good one.

1744
01:22:59,680 --> 01:23:02,439
Speaker 2: But even then, like folks, you know, you got to appreciate,

1745
01:23:02,479 --> 01:23:06,200
Speaker 2: like the guys who do this professionally are you know,

1746
01:23:06,240 --> 01:23:08,880
Speaker 2: they're gonna toy with guys like Saint Pierre. So you

1747
01:23:08,880 --> 01:23:11,320
Speaker 2: have to find the right level of competition. And so

1748
01:23:11,360 --> 01:23:13,320
Speaker 2: for example, I saw Gilbert Burns being like, Hey, I'd

1749
01:23:13,320 --> 01:23:16,240
Speaker 2: love to do it, and I'm like dude, Gilbert Burns

1750
01:23:16,320 --> 01:23:18,639
Speaker 2: was like a multiple time black belt world champion. He's

1751
01:23:18,680 --> 01:23:20,920
Speaker 2: going to roast Saint Pierre. Like, No, I don't want

1752
01:23:20,920 --> 01:23:23,840
Speaker 2: to see that at all. So the Nick Diaz one

1753
01:23:23,920 --> 01:23:25,639
Speaker 2: is the one that I like the most. I actually

1754
01:23:25,640 --> 01:23:27,519
Speaker 2: feel like that's a really good one.

1755
01:23:27,720 --> 01:23:29,599
Speaker 1: I mean, that could be a fun spectacle just because

1756
01:23:29,640 --> 01:23:31,439
Speaker 1: it's too you know, huge name.

1757
01:23:31,680 --> 01:23:35,400
Speaker 2: No no, no, Nick is real good on the ground, obviously excellent.

1758
01:23:35,479 --> 01:23:37,479
Speaker 1: But you know, I don't I guess, I guess I'm

1759
01:23:37,600 --> 01:23:39,280
Speaker 1: I'm putting out there Luke that when I look at

1760
01:23:39,280 --> 01:23:42,040
Speaker 1: these matchups, it's not necessarily about like the competitive side

1761
01:23:42,080 --> 01:23:43,680
Speaker 1: of the grappling and who would win. It's just sort

1762
01:23:43,680 --> 01:23:45,720
Speaker 1: of like, oh wow, they're doing this thing, Like could

1763
01:23:45,760 --> 01:23:47,800
Speaker 1: that make me care about it? Maybe? I don't know.

1764
01:23:47,880 --> 01:23:50,519
Speaker 1: I yeah, that's just me. I got white belt on

1765
01:23:50,560 --> 01:23:53,040
Speaker 1: my mind. Look, you know that got my mind on

1766
01:23:53,200 --> 01:23:55,559
Speaker 1: my money in a white belt knowledge of em man

1767
01:23:55,560 --> 01:23:58,040
Speaker 1: on my mind there. But GSP is going to grapple,

1768
01:23:58,120 --> 01:24:01,439
Speaker 1: whether you care or not. Uh, maybe he'll grapple with

1769
01:24:01,479 --> 01:24:03,679
Speaker 1: coach Craig Luke and then then the cameras will follow

1770
01:24:03,760 --> 01:24:05,800
Speaker 1: them to the Hukkissan afterwards.

1771
01:24:05,840 --> 01:24:09,800
Speaker 2: For no spirit coach Coach Craig would sub him in

1772
01:24:10,000 --> 01:24:12,720
Speaker 2: under five minutes, like under three maybe you.

1773
01:24:12,720 --> 01:24:17,040
Speaker 1: Know, okay, okay, uh, Luke, So here's the deal when

1774
01:24:17,120 --> 01:24:21,320
Speaker 1: when we when we debated the in cage face off

1775
01:24:21,360 --> 01:24:24,519
Speaker 1: between Israel at Asnia and a victorious Streacus duplets see

1776
01:24:25,000 --> 01:24:28,200
Speaker 1: and obviously it's spilled into into the race elements of it.

1777
01:24:28,280 --> 01:24:30,519
Speaker 1: And you know, I'm we talked about it the other day.

1778
01:24:30,560 --> 01:24:33,200
Speaker 1: I made a quick editorial on that. Some of the

1779
01:24:33,240 --> 01:24:37,959
Speaker 1: reaction there, thanks everybody who was nice. But the basis

1780
01:24:38,000 --> 01:24:43,280
Speaker 1: of my of my issues with Izzy did center upon

1781
01:24:43,320 --> 01:24:47,639
Speaker 1: the idea of the look of that situation, the language

1782
01:24:47,680 --> 01:24:49,920
Speaker 1: that he chose. I get why, but it it's sort

1783
01:24:49,960 --> 01:24:52,439
Speaker 1: of that. But also Luke, some of the whole idea

1784
01:24:52,880 --> 01:24:55,720
Speaker 1: of pot and kettle. Here's this we'll I'll explain it

1785
01:24:55,760 --> 01:24:59,040
Speaker 1: better when we look back on UFC history on the

1786
01:24:59,160 --> 01:25:02,479
Speaker 1: pre fight in embedded sort of documentary series of when

1787
01:25:02,560 --> 01:25:05,920
Speaker 1: Adustania first won the Middleway Championship by knocking out Robert

1788
01:25:05,920 --> 01:25:10,800
Speaker 1: Whitaker and some criticisms he had about Big Rob there,

1789
01:25:11,320 --> 01:25:14,920
Speaker 1: about being raised in New Zealand but moving his life

1790
01:25:15,040 --> 01:25:18,679
Speaker 1: and becoming a champion in Australia. Let's let's take a look.

1791
01:25:19,640 --> 01:25:25,360
Speaker 3: Unlike Israel, Adissania is a longtime resident of Auckland. It

1792
01:25:25,400 --> 01:25:29,000
Speaker 3: takes issue at the self proclaimed keywing visiting. I'm across

1793
01:25:29,040 --> 01:25:35,320
Speaker 3: the ditch. He's completely Australian. He disowned New Zealand in

1794
01:25:35,360 --> 01:25:38,920
Speaker 3: a way. I live in often and often's my home.

1795
01:25:38,920 --> 01:25:42,400
Speaker 3: New Zealand's my home. In australia's his home. There's a

1796
01:25:42,400 --> 01:25:44,599
Speaker 3: line in the scent, and you're on that side.

1797
01:25:44,800 --> 01:25:46,519
Speaker 2: You know. I'm on this side. So if you're on

1798
01:25:46,560 --> 01:25:48,280
Speaker 2: the other side, the other side.

1799
01:25:48,160 --> 01:25:53,120
Speaker 8: I don't have to prove my New Zealand heritage. You

1800
01:25:53,160 --> 01:25:54,880
Speaker 8: can go back and look at my news. I am

1801
01:25:54,920 --> 01:25:57,639
Speaker 8: so proud of my New Zealand heritage and his strength.

1802
01:25:58,080 --> 01:26:01,000
Speaker 8: I droll from my Moori side. It's it's there, you

1803
01:26:01,040 --> 01:26:03,120
Speaker 8: can see it, and I'm very proud of that. But

1804
01:26:03,160 --> 01:26:06,160
Speaker 8: I'll leave in Australia. I was raised in Australia, my

1805
01:26:06,280 --> 01:26:10,680
Speaker 8: kids were born in Australia. I'm possible to Astralian, but

1806
01:26:10,760 --> 01:26:13,040
Speaker 8: I'm proud of it. Now I don't have to pick

1807
01:26:13,120 --> 01:26:18,280
Speaker 8: one screeze.

1808
01:26:19,920 --> 01:26:23,479
Speaker 1: So Luke, here's the thing I can't just say, isn't

1809
01:26:23,479 --> 01:26:27,400
Speaker 1: that exactly what DDP did to him? Because the whole

1810
01:26:27,400 --> 01:26:30,639
Speaker 1: point of the way that Usman and Adusnia took umbrage

1811
01:26:30,680 --> 01:26:33,599
Speaker 1: with the original comments from Dupless was obviously their deterre.

1812
01:26:34,040 --> 01:26:36,720
Speaker 1: They are interpreting a deeper meanor behind that, and that's

1813
01:26:36,760 --> 01:26:40,960
Speaker 1: what's fueling this larger debate on race and with GDP

1814
01:26:41,120 --> 01:26:43,479
Speaker 1: trying to spin you know, stir it up or whatever

1815
01:26:43,520 --> 01:26:47,040
Speaker 1: to begin with. Or was aud Asnia's counter just about

1816
01:26:47,120 --> 01:26:49,680
Speaker 1: the mental warfare and the build to this fight. But

1817
01:26:50,400 --> 01:26:52,720
Speaker 1: that is exactly what DP did to him, and it's

1818
01:26:52,720 --> 01:26:55,320
Speaker 1: not different than what Leon Edwards did tobizping from winning

1819
01:26:55,320 --> 01:26:57,960
Speaker 1: the championship and saying, Michael moved to the US to

1820
01:26:58,040 --> 01:26:59,920
Speaker 1: do that. You know, I did it in the UK,

1821
01:27:00,439 --> 01:27:02,600
Speaker 1: even though he's not even from that country. Can we

1822
01:27:02,640 --> 01:27:05,320
Speaker 1: shut up about this? After? Well, well, that doesn't make

1823
01:27:05,360 --> 01:27:07,120
Speaker 1: Easy look great, It doesn't make him look great.

1824
01:27:07,280 --> 01:27:09,760
Speaker 2: Well here's what I would say. It doesn't make to

1825
01:27:09,800 --> 01:27:12,479
Speaker 2: your point, It doesn't make Izzy wrong about the DDP

1826
01:27:12,680 --> 01:27:15,000
Speaker 2: thing in my mind, but it makes him wrong about Whittaker.

1827
01:27:15,800 --> 01:27:18,080
Speaker 2: Like it's like that that to me is like you're right,

1828
01:27:18,120 --> 01:27:20,439
Speaker 2: like Whittaker's right, Like I don't have to prove that

1829
01:27:20,479 --> 01:27:22,639
Speaker 2: I'm New Zealand or that I have New Zealand roots

1830
01:27:22,680 --> 01:27:23,840
Speaker 2: so that I'm proud of them. I don't have to

1831
01:27:23,840 --> 01:27:27,439
Speaker 2: pick one. He's right, he is very right. He doesn't

1832
01:27:27,439 --> 01:27:31,000
Speaker 2: have to do that. That's totally true. And so I

1833
01:27:31,040 --> 01:27:35,400
Speaker 2: don't understand exactly the whole Mallory New Zealand Australian thing

1834
01:27:35,520 --> 01:27:37,559
Speaker 2: very well, but it does appear on his face to

1835
01:27:37,560 --> 01:27:40,720
Speaker 2: be quite contradictory from Izzy. So I can say that,

1836
01:27:40,960 --> 01:27:45,120
Speaker 2: but it's still like nobody should be second guessing anyone

1837
01:27:45,120 --> 01:27:49,120
Speaker 2: else's attachment to places they're from or represent and BC.

1838
01:27:49,680 --> 01:27:52,160
Speaker 2: I actually really take issue with the Leon Edwards Bisping

1839
01:27:52,200 --> 01:27:55,600
Speaker 2: one because it's like, dude, I remember when Bisping was

1840
01:27:55,640 --> 01:27:58,280
Speaker 2: on the come up, the fucking idea he was gonna

1841
01:27:58,280 --> 01:28:02,080
Speaker 2: be champions staying in the UK at that time was

1842
01:28:02,160 --> 01:28:05,160
Speaker 2: just absurd. There weren't the people around him, it was

1843
01:28:05,320 --> 01:28:08,120
Speaker 2: there was not gonna be the infrastructure. It's just nonsense.

1844
01:28:08,600 --> 01:28:11,479
Speaker 2: Like the real way to say it is like, so,

1845
01:28:11,560 --> 01:28:14,799
Speaker 2: for example, should Leon Edwards be proud that he stayed

1846
01:28:14,800 --> 01:28:17,559
Speaker 2: in the UK and became champion in that way? Yes,

1847
01:28:17,640 --> 01:28:20,840
Speaker 2: of course, But the reason that there exists a UK

1848
01:28:21,080 --> 01:28:26,280
Speaker 2: infrastructure for guys to stay is in not like totality,

1849
01:28:26,280 --> 01:28:30,400
Speaker 2: but in big part because of guys like Michael Bissbing,

1850
01:28:30,840 --> 01:28:34,200
Speaker 2: because of guys being able to create this buzz and

1851
01:28:34,320 --> 01:28:37,640
Speaker 2: foundation and like show a path and the idea that

1852
01:28:37,640 --> 01:28:39,479
Speaker 2: that was gonna come from the UK and a granted

1853
01:28:39,520 --> 01:28:42,439
Speaker 2: he got the title on what twenty fifteen or sixteen

1854
01:28:42,520 --> 01:28:45,120
Speaker 2: or so, you know, yes, by that point there was

1855
01:28:45,160 --> 01:28:47,880
Speaker 2: there were some better gyms, but on his come up, no,

1856
01:28:48,240 --> 01:28:50,519
Speaker 2: like there wasn't gonna happen, Like, why are we taking

1857
01:28:50,560 --> 01:28:53,240
Speaker 2: this from him? It drives me nuts. I hate it.

1858
01:28:53,439 --> 01:28:56,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, look, the race element does change the

1859
01:28:56,080 --> 01:28:58,280
Speaker 1: comparison to some degree depending on how you interpret it.

1860
01:28:58,280 --> 01:29:00,120
Speaker 1: And I do have to say us being so so

1861
01:29:00,800 --> 01:29:03,280
Speaker 1: I guess honest and open and trying to properly debate

1862
01:29:03,320 --> 01:29:06,040
Speaker 1: this based on how well we can understand it from

1863
01:29:06,040 --> 01:29:07,920
Speaker 1: where we come from, has led to some of our

1864
01:29:07,920 --> 01:29:10,240
Speaker 1: own MK listeners reaching out to me telling their story,

1865
01:29:10,280 --> 01:29:13,439
Speaker 1: people that live in South Africa actually but were born

1866
01:29:13,479 --> 01:29:16,479
Speaker 1: in other African countries and just sort of saying, Luke

1867
01:29:16,520 --> 01:29:19,160
Speaker 1: that hearing DDP say the comments he did and the

1868
01:29:19,240 --> 01:29:22,679
Speaker 1: voice he did, you know, definitely stung them and reminded

1869
01:29:22,720 --> 01:29:28,200
Speaker 1: them of of, you know, some awful instances and experiences

1870
01:29:28,240 --> 01:29:29,960
Speaker 1: they had, and I never want to look over that.

1871
01:29:30,000 --> 01:29:31,960
Speaker 1: And also some people have said, and it could be true,

1872
01:29:31,960 --> 01:29:34,439
Speaker 1: this could be just Izzy trying to stir things up

1873
01:29:34,520 --> 01:29:37,160
Speaker 1: himself and just kind of come back and get himself

1874
01:29:37,479 --> 01:29:39,479
Speaker 1: fired up to beat this guy. And if he needs

1875
01:29:39,520 --> 01:29:42,720
Speaker 1: this angle Luke to do that. In that regard, it's

1876
01:29:42,720 --> 01:29:44,800
Speaker 1: all going to conspire together to make this a very

1877
01:29:44,800 --> 01:29:47,519
Speaker 1: big fight. But some of this does seem pot and

1878
01:29:47,600 --> 01:29:48,439
Speaker 1: kind of like who cares?

1879
01:29:48,479 --> 01:29:48,639
Speaker 2: What?

1880
01:29:48,840 --> 01:29:51,559
Speaker 1: Like, look, do people really get on you for for

1881
01:29:51,760 --> 01:29:54,640
Speaker 1: leaving India and never looking back? You know what I mean?

1882
01:29:54,720 --> 01:29:59,160
Speaker 2: Just here's a question for you. My daughter speaks Spanish

1883
01:29:59,200 --> 01:30:04,360
Speaker 2: as well, she speaks English. Is my daughter Colombian? We were, well,

1884
01:30:04,439 --> 01:30:07,240
Speaker 2: we can give her citizenship like tomorrow. It's not that hard,

1885
01:30:07,280 --> 01:30:10,600
Speaker 2: Like is she Colombian? Like probably in ways most Colombians

1886
01:30:10,600 --> 01:30:14,000
Speaker 2: would recognize, maybe not, you know, maybe not. But I

1887
01:30:14,080 --> 01:30:16,880
Speaker 2: always tell her, you know, she always asks like, you know,

1888
01:30:16,960 --> 01:30:18,720
Speaker 2: we we talk like you know, where am I from?

1889
01:30:18,760 --> 01:30:20,080
Speaker 2: What am I like? In these sort of like fun

1890
01:30:20,120 --> 01:30:22,920
Speaker 2: little ways, And I always tell her you you are

1891
01:30:23,080 --> 01:30:25,640
Speaker 2: as American as you are Colombian in my mind, and

1892
01:30:25,680 --> 01:30:27,400
Speaker 2: I treat her that way. I don't want to deprive

1893
01:30:27,479 --> 01:30:29,920
Speaker 2: her of that identity. So in the end, people will

1894
01:30:29,960 --> 01:30:32,320
Speaker 2: make up their own mind. But people who live in

1895
01:30:32,360 --> 01:30:34,880
Speaker 2: two worlds, it's not easy to navigate all of them.

1896
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Speaker 2: And I just feel like if people say they are

1897
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Speaker 2: from a place and they live there, you know, give

1898
01:30:39,439 --> 01:30:39,840
Speaker 2: it to them.

1899
01:30:40,240 --> 01:30:42,679
Speaker 1: Those where global citizens. All right, I think the closer

1900
01:30:42,720 --> 01:30:46,639
Speaker 1: we can get to that idealism helps to some degree. Yeah,

1901
01:30:46,680 --> 01:30:48,839
Speaker 1: it's just I don't know. Look, I don't really.

1902
01:30:48,680 --> 01:30:51,760
Speaker 2: It's complicated, dude. Identity is complicated. People think it's a

1903
01:30:51,800 --> 01:30:53,840
Speaker 2: neat category. It's not so neat, and it.

1904
01:30:53,800 --> 01:30:56,960
Speaker 1: Does fuel fight storylines. Like you know, this was fine,

1905
01:30:57,000 --> 01:30:59,240
Speaker 1: I mean, but Mikey brought up a good point. Luke.

1906
01:30:59,240 --> 01:31:02,439
Speaker 1: Do you think that Kane Velaska's got kind of forgotten

1907
01:31:02,479 --> 01:31:05,200
Speaker 1: by the UFC when originally he was you know, yeah,

1908
01:31:05,439 --> 01:31:08,280
Speaker 1: first Mexican descent champion. But then Brandon Marino is the

1909
01:31:08,280 --> 01:31:11,000
Speaker 1: first Mexican born, so suddenly it's like Cane never happened.

1910
01:31:11,000 --> 01:31:12,920
Speaker 2: But yeah, it was weird, dude, this is weird too.

1911
01:31:13,000 --> 01:31:14,600
Speaker 2: Like I've told you, I've said the story before. I

1912
01:31:14,600 --> 01:31:16,599
Speaker 2: didn't occur to me back then, but my wife would

1913
01:31:16,600 --> 01:31:18,479
Speaker 2: hear Kane Velaska speak Spanish. I don't know how it

1914
01:31:18,520 --> 01:31:20,160
Speaker 2: is today, but like back when he was a champion,

1915
01:31:20,600 --> 01:31:22,680
Speaker 2: and she said, it was like nails on a chalkboard,

1916
01:31:22,720 --> 01:31:24,800
Speaker 2: Like his accent was terrible. She said, for Brizio o

1917
01:31:24,840 --> 01:31:29,280
Speaker 2: Verdom spoke much better Spanish, like way way better, you know,

1918
01:31:29,439 --> 01:31:31,680
Speaker 2: And so like that was a weird thing just for

1919
01:31:31,720 --> 01:31:34,800
Speaker 2: I think other Mexicans to hear, was like, you know,

1920
01:31:34,960 --> 01:31:38,000
Speaker 2: this this guy with like a clearly American accent sort

1921
01:31:38,000 --> 01:31:42,080
Speaker 2: of working through the language. But you know, Mexican Americans

1922
01:31:42,120 --> 01:31:45,240
Speaker 2: are one audience that's that's kind of distinct from Mexicans,

1923
01:31:45,280 --> 01:31:46,920
Speaker 2: it's kind of distinct from the rest of America. There's

1924
01:31:46,920 --> 01:31:50,160
Speaker 2: a lot of differenties. Let people be who they are, man.

1925
01:31:50,560 --> 01:31:53,160
Speaker 1: I mean, deep in the boxing history, right, like there's

1926
01:31:53,160 --> 01:31:56,120
Speaker 1: always been there's always been built in rivalries. If a

1927
01:31:56,240 --> 01:31:59,800
Speaker 1: great Mexican born star like Julio Cesar Chavez Senior takes

1928
01:32:00,040 --> 01:32:03,519
Speaker 1: on a rising Mexican American like Oscar de la Hoya

1929
01:32:03,520 --> 01:32:07,000
Speaker 1: in their two fights, which had such like hatred and

1930
01:32:07,280 --> 01:32:09,880
Speaker 1: you know in there because it was like, well, here's

1931
01:32:09,880 --> 01:32:12,759
Speaker 1: a real Mexican against a guy who's you know, leaning

1932
01:32:12,760 --> 01:32:14,920
Speaker 1: into the American side. I mean, so Hudo's been through

1933
01:32:14,920 --> 01:32:18,639
Speaker 1: that battle too, Luke. I mean, I guess it works,

1934
01:32:18,800 --> 01:32:21,559
Speaker 1: it raises the attention, but I would like to see

1935
01:32:21,600 --> 01:32:24,600
Speaker 1: DDP as he slide deeper into who's gonna win this

1936
01:32:24,640 --> 01:32:26,240
Speaker 1: fight and why let's get into that, Luke.

1937
01:32:26,240 --> 01:32:27,800
Speaker 2: All right, yeah, fair enough. I mean I'm a little

1938
01:32:27,840 --> 01:32:29,760
Speaker 2: sick of this too, but it is part of the fight,

1939
01:32:29,840 --> 01:32:33,519
Speaker 2: especially in boxing too, where it's like Mexican versus Puerto

1940
01:32:33,600 --> 01:32:36,800
Speaker 2: Rican and everyone is just you know, identitied out. It

1941
01:32:36,840 --> 01:32:38,800
Speaker 2: gets it makes it good, but it makes it old too,

1942
01:32:38,840 --> 01:32:40,080
Speaker 2: you know, Luke.

1943
01:32:40,120 --> 01:32:43,040
Speaker 1: Speaking of boxing, staying with these headlines here and our reactions.

1944
01:32:43,640 --> 01:32:46,600
Speaker 1: Undisputed lightweight champion recently moved up to one hundred and

1945
01:32:46,640 --> 01:32:51,240
Speaker 1: forty pounds. Devin Haney arrested yesterday in Hollywood on felony

1946
01:32:51,240 --> 01:32:54,559
Speaker 1: gun charges for carrying a concealed weapon. So He was

1947
01:32:54,600 --> 01:32:57,360
Speaker 1: in the backseat of a car he owned, driven by

1948
01:32:57,360 --> 01:33:00,760
Speaker 1: friends on the way to a popular rooftop catch La

1949
01:33:00,880 --> 01:33:05,080
Speaker 1: Hollywood restaurant. The driver told police officers, according to the report,

1950
01:33:05,080 --> 01:33:08,040
Speaker 1: that Hani was packing heat. They found a semi automatic

1951
01:33:08,080 --> 01:33:11,040
Speaker 1: repon released on thirty five thousand dollars bond. He is

1952
01:33:11,080 --> 01:33:14,600
Speaker 1: a court date next month. If the felony charge was

1953
01:33:15,040 --> 01:33:17,240
Speaker 1: prosecuted to the full extent of a law. There is

1954
01:33:17,280 --> 01:33:21,080
Speaker 1: a one year prison sentence, but that does appear unlikely here, Luke,

1955
01:33:22,240 --> 01:33:25,800
Speaker 1: how do we react to this? It's not a overly like,

1956
01:33:25,920 --> 01:33:28,720
Speaker 1: aggressive and dangerous scenario. It's not great either. It's a

1957
01:33:28,760 --> 01:33:31,240
Speaker 1: felony offense, Luke, So what do you do here?

1958
01:33:31,439 --> 01:33:32,920
Speaker 2: Listen? I'm not going to sit here and beat these

1959
01:33:32,920 --> 01:33:35,400
Speaker 2: guys up. This is America. People roll with guns, like

1960
01:33:35,600 --> 01:33:37,559
Speaker 2: you know. I don't think that's great, but it's the reality.

1961
01:33:37,720 --> 01:33:41,000
Speaker 2: This is the only thing I would ask, Like, this

1962
01:33:41,040 --> 01:33:42,880
Speaker 2: is the thing that drives me nuts about firearms people,

1963
01:33:42,880 --> 01:33:45,880
Speaker 2: because I've been around firearms my whole life, don't I

1964
01:33:45,920 --> 01:33:48,160
Speaker 2: don't know if people understand this. You can one hundred

1965
01:33:48,240 --> 01:33:53,680
Speaker 2: percent be like a super hardcore pro firearms person and

1966
01:33:53,960 --> 01:33:58,559
Speaker 2: also be pro safety like they're not in any way

1967
01:33:58,680 --> 01:34:02,679
Speaker 2: mutually exclusive whatsoever. And in fact, some of the most

1968
01:34:02,800 --> 01:34:06,080
Speaker 2: enthusiastic firearms people I've ever met in my life were

1969
01:34:06,240 --> 01:34:09,080
Speaker 2: very good about it. So all I really ask is

1970
01:34:09,120 --> 01:34:11,639
Speaker 2: one of two things. If you're gonna have someone who's strapped,

1971
01:34:11,640 --> 01:34:14,000
Speaker 2: because what happened was the cops founded in the car

1972
01:34:14,040 --> 01:34:15,720
Speaker 2: and no one took ownership of it. Here's what I

1973
01:34:15,760 --> 01:34:19,639
Speaker 2: would say. Put someone in your entourage who is allowed

1974
01:34:19,680 --> 01:34:22,400
Speaker 2: to carry, right and have them carry it so there's

1975
01:34:22,400 --> 01:34:26,360
Speaker 2: no fucking question about it. More to the point, get

1976
01:34:26,520 --> 01:34:30,479
Speaker 2: security if you need. If you're Devin Haney, you can

1977
01:34:30,520 --> 01:34:33,080
Speaker 2: afford security right. B See. I'm not saying he's Deontay

1978
01:34:33,080 --> 01:34:35,760
Speaker 2: Wilder Rich who also had this issue, right, But if

1979
01:34:35,760 --> 01:34:38,320
Speaker 2: you're young and you feel like someone needs to be

1980
01:34:38,360 --> 01:34:41,200
Speaker 2: strapped wherever you go, fine, I get that to an

1981
01:34:41,240 --> 01:34:45,240
Speaker 2: extent anyway, Make it a professional just dude, PC, this

1982
01:34:45,280 --> 01:34:48,880
Speaker 2: is all I'm asking. Professionalize the gun use, either by

1983
01:34:48,920 --> 01:34:51,240
Speaker 2: having someone who's got a right to carry for whatever reason,

1984
01:34:51,360 --> 01:34:53,519
Speaker 2: or having someone who's going to right to carry and

1985
01:34:53,800 --> 01:35:00,240
Speaker 2: is designated as security personnel. Simple, easy, done legal. How

1986
01:35:00,240 --> 01:35:04,160
Speaker 2: hard is that? How hard is that? Not that hard? Luke?

1987
01:35:04,200 --> 01:35:06,120
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know tough to see this,

1988
01:35:06,280 --> 01:35:09,920
Speaker 1: but I get it to some degree. Well more Hani

1989
01:35:10,040 --> 01:35:12,479
Speaker 1: news and it ties into Tao Femal Lopez. Luke, who

1990
01:35:12,920 --> 01:35:15,720
Speaker 1: is apparently not retired the head of the WBO, put

1991
01:35:15,720 --> 01:35:19,160
Speaker 1: out a tweet basically basically saying the game is over,

1992
01:35:19,600 --> 01:35:21,840
Speaker 1: that he has talked to Lopez and Lopez will now

1993
01:35:21,920 --> 01:35:24,240
Speaker 1: keep the title and come back. No one really believed

1994
01:35:24,320 --> 01:35:27,599
Speaker 1: Luke that he's retired. Some had pondered whether that had

1995
01:35:27,640 --> 01:35:29,759
Speaker 1: something to do with his custody hearing with his ex wife.

1996
01:35:29,800 --> 01:35:32,479
Speaker 1: I don't know, but Hane's in a great spot as

1997
01:35:32,520 --> 01:35:35,519
Speaker 1: we know, coming off the disputed win over Lomachenko, because

1998
01:35:35,560 --> 01:35:38,800
Speaker 1: Devin Haney is a network and promotional free agent and

1999
01:35:38,840 --> 01:35:41,599
Speaker 1: one of the big time suitors looks to be Tayo

2000
01:35:41,680 --> 01:35:44,840
Speaker 1: Femo Lopez, who tweeted, Yo, real Devin Haney, since you

2001
01:35:44,880 --> 01:35:47,200
Speaker 1: were so quick to jump in the mix for my belt,

2002
01:35:47,280 --> 01:35:49,479
Speaker 1: Let's make the fight happen so the world can see

2003
01:35:49,680 --> 01:35:52,040
Speaker 1: who is about that action. And no, you will not

2004
01:35:52,120 --> 01:35:54,360
Speaker 1: be the a side. I hold the king title of

2005
01:35:54,400 --> 01:35:58,519
Speaker 1: the division as well, so don't run away batch. Devin

2006
01:35:58,560 --> 01:36:04,160
Speaker 1: Haney quote tweeted and said, let's do it. The conversation

2007
01:36:04,240 --> 01:36:07,040
Speaker 1: would continue with Tao Femo tweeting came out of retirement

2008
01:36:07,080 --> 01:36:10,439
Speaker 1: because the next move was for Hani to fight sorry

2009
01:36:10,479 --> 01:36:14,559
Speaker 1: as Arnold Barboza for my title. F that I'm tired

2010
01:36:14,600 --> 01:36:16,960
Speaker 1: of helping this kid be something that he's not and

2011
01:36:17,000 --> 01:36:19,599
Speaker 1: that's a real champion. Well, Haney would quote tweet that

2012
01:36:19,640 --> 01:36:22,960
Speaker 1: message and say, your whole ass never retired in the

2013
01:36:22,960 --> 01:36:25,479
Speaker 1: first place. Let's see, if you really want the smoke,

2014
01:36:25,640 --> 01:36:28,479
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be one forty champ regardless. You asked for

2015
01:36:28,520 --> 01:36:31,880
Speaker 1: twenty million last time my pops talked to you. So Luke.

2016
01:36:31,920 --> 01:36:34,240
Speaker 1: For those who don't know, Tayo Femo Lopez is still

2017
01:36:34,240 --> 01:36:37,920
Speaker 1: aligned and under contract with Top Rank Slash ESPN. There

2018
01:36:37,960 --> 01:36:40,600
Speaker 1: had been some belief that Hani was headed to de

2019
01:36:40,760 --> 01:36:44,160
Speaker 1: Zone to take on Regisprogra immediately for a one hundred

2020
01:36:44,160 --> 01:36:46,479
Speaker 1: and forty pound title. What do you make of this

2021
01:36:46,520 --> 01:36:49,120
Speaker 1: A little back and forth? You'd love the fight right

2022
01:36:49,160 --> 01:36:51,920
Speaker 1: first and foremost, you'd love it. You'd love it right, yeah.

2023
01:36:51,960 --> 01:36:56,559
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm amazed at people's not knowing the difference

2024
01:36:56,600 --> 01:37:00,800
Speaker 2: between to and too, but neither here nor there. I

2025
01:37:00,840 --> 01:37:02,960
Speaker 2: think my biggest pet peeve on Twitter BC. I know

2026
01:37:03,040 --> 01:37:05,879
Speaker 2: this is not what you asked in any capacity whatsoever.

2027
01:37:05,920 --> 01:37:07,400
Speaker 2: I'm just gonna say it just the same. If you

2028
01:37:07,479 --> 01:37:11,920
Speaker 2: don't know how to conjugate the word someone is not bias,

2029
01:37:12,520 --> 01:37:16,519
Speaker 2: someone is bias. B I A s ed. You have

2030
01:37:16,600 --> 01:37:20,680
Speaker 2: to conjugate it, right, all right? So being biased.

2031
01:37:21,000 --> 01:37:23,280
Speaker 1: In combat sports, we don't really conjugate. We just put

2032
01:37:23,320 --> 01:37:24,519
Speaker 1: the message out there, right.

2033
01:37:24,400 --> 01:37:27,520
Speaker 2: So Yeah, here's what I'll say. First of all, Wowma

2034
01:37:27,600 --> 01:37:29,519
Speaker 2: Lopez the shortest retirement ever. And by the way, he

2035
01:37:29,520 --> 01:37:31,400
Speaker 2: didn't give up all of his titles. I think he's keeping.

2036
01:37:31,800 --> 01:37:34,759
Speaker 2: Which one BCWBO I think is the one he's keeping.

2037
01:37:34,840 --> 01:37:36,600
Speaker 1: That's the only one he has. Luke Tayo Femo, he

2038
01:37:36,640 --> 01:37:38,160
Speaker 1: just won a onety pound title.

2039
01:37:38,760 --> 01:37:40,640
Speaker 2: I thought he gave one of them back already. Well,

2040
01:37:40,640 --> 01:37:42,920
Speaker 2: whatever the fuck doesn't matter either way. I was gonna

2041
01:37:42,920 --> 01:37:45,559
Speaker 2: say this. I love the fight. I love it. What

2042
01:37:45,680 --> 01:37:48,360
Speaker 2: is there not to like about this fight? Two young guys,

2043
01:37:48,800 --> 01:37:53,840
Speaker 2: different styles, different ways of approaching the game, good style

2044
01:37:53,960 --> 01:37:56,840
Speaker 2: matchup in particular, Sign me up.

2045
01:37:56,880 --> 01:37:58,879
Speaker 1: It's a great fight and I love everything about Certainly,

2046
01:37:59,240 --> 01:38:01,360
Speaker 1: certainly it'll come down to money and if hany will

2047
01:38:01,400 --> 01:38:04,559
Speaker 1: re sign with ESPN. But Lopez did quote tweet the

2048
01:38:04,640 --> 01:38:07,760
Speaker 1: Yoho ass message and said, what twenty million? I didn't

2049
01:38:07,800 --> 01:38:12,040
Speaker 1: even broken English, broken English, let alone put a price

2050
01:38:12,080 --> 01:38:14,360
Speaker 1: on it. Start losing weight and we'll figure out the

2051
01:38:14,360 --> 01:38:16,599
Speaker 1: rest so we can give the fans a dream that

2052
01:38:16,640 --> 01:38:18,800
Speaker 1: will take over the sport of boxing. Using both of

2053
01:38:18,840 --> 01:38:21,760
Speaker 1: their nicknames creatively. But look, just the day before, by

2054
01:38:21,800 --> 01:38:25,760
Speaker 1: the way, Tayo Femo had tweeted at Loma Chank who

2055
01:38:25,760 --> 01:38:28,040
Speaker 1: tweeted that was it, No, it was it was Shaker

2056
01:38:28,200 --> 01:38:31,880
Speaker 1: Stevenson who tweeted at Lomachenko trying to get him into

2057
01:38:31,920 --> 01:38:35,160
Speaker 1: a big fight now that Hani might be leaving either way,

2058
01:38:35,360 --> 01:38:38,400
Speaker 1: we want the best to fight the best. This is

2059
01:38:38,560 --> 01:38:41,960
Speaker 1: playing into that. We'll see which direction Hani goes. Look

2060
01:38:42,000 --> 01:38:44,519
Speaker 1: how about this? So we remember the PFL, which has

2061
01:38:44,800 --> 01:38:48,719
Speaker 1: playoffs coming up, had a somewhat controversial situation with Natan

2062
01:38:48,800 --> 01:38:52,719
Speaker 1: Schult in the fight with his teammate. Schultz was supposed

2063
01:38:52,760 --> 01:38:55,280
Speaker 1: to advance to the playoffs after winning in a fight

2064
01:38:55,360 --> 01:38:58,400
Speaker 1: that lacked action. Then we found out the PFL suspended

2065
01:38:58,439 --> 01:39:01,840
Speaker 1: both fighters and took the much more TV friendly Shane

2066
01:39:01,840 --> 01:39:05,000
Speaker 1: Burgos of UFC fame and plugged him in the playoffs.

2067
01:39:05,479 --> 01:39:09,240
Speaker 1: Natan Schult had originally called out Francis and Ghano, saying, look,

2068
01:39:09,280 --> 01:39:13,520
Speaker 1: if you're the you know, PFL head of players organization,

2069
01:39:13,880 --> 01:39:16,880
Speaker 1: do something about it. Apparently it's been crickets. Here's a

2070
01:39:16,920 --> 01:39:19,200
Speaker 1: tweet from Shuler an ig post saying I am very

2071
01:39:19,280 --> 01:39:21,959
Speaker 1: unsatisfied with the decision that was taken by the PFL

2072
01:39:22,320 --> 01:39:25,280
Speaker 1: to favor Burgos's entry. Oh this was his original thing

2073
01:39:25,320 --> 01:39:30,080
Speaker 1: about Gano and Luke. He would go on to say, basically,

2074
01:39:30,400 --> 01:39:35,679
Speaker 1: where are you Francis Luke? Francis has Tyson Fury coming

2075
01:39:35,760 --> 01:39:38,080
Speaker 1: up in a fight that the PFL is not involved in.

2076
01:39:39,600 --> 01:39:43,720
Speaker 1: What responsibility do you think Francis has after that big

2077
01:39:43,760 --> 01:39:47,240
Speaker 1: PFL MMA announcement to actually this was part of the

2078
01:39:47,240 --> 01:39:50,720
Speaker 1: onus to be fair in him leaving the UFC and

2079
01:39:50,760 --> 01:39:54,360
Speaker 1: getting into a more fighter friendly deal. He's the he's

2080
01:39:54,360 --> 01:39:56,360
Speaker 1: the union rep so to speak for a union and

2081
01:39:56,360 --> 01:39:59,160
Speaker 1: that's not even alive. But should he step in here

2082
01:39:59,400 --> 01:40:01,920
Speaker 1: or should he be like yo, Natan fuck off, I

2083
01:40:01,920 --> 01:40:03,200
Speaker 1: don't fight there till next year.

2084
01:40:03,760 --> 01:40:06,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think he should. I mean a responsibility. I

2085
01:40:06,600 --> 01:40:08,360
Speaker 2: don't know what the word would be there, Like legal

2086
01:40:08,439 --> 01:40:11,040
Speaker 2: responsibility he has none is what I'm more of. But like,

2087
01:40:12,280 --> 01:40:16,000
Speaker 2: you know, making everything about fighter rights and then picking

2088
01:40:16,120 --> 01:40:19,280
Speaker 2: organization because it was like fighter friendly and then they

2089
01:40:19,280 --> 01:40:21,040
Speaker 2: do all this shit. Like I don't it's not his

2090
01:40:21,240 --> 01:40:22,880
Speaker 2: problem to fix. But I don't think he should be

2091
01:40:22,880 --> 01:40:26,000
Speaker 2: silent PC right, That's my only issue. Just don't be silent,

2092
01:40:26,640 --> 01:40:29,160
Speaker 2: like say something, And the fact that he said nothing

2093
01:40:29,240 --> 01:40:31,720
Speaker 2: is kind of not great. Uh.

2094
01:40:31,840 --> 01:40:34,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, I was trying to find the updated exactly what

2095
01:40:34,880 --> 01:40:36,519
Speaker 1: Schultz said this time to call him out.

2096
01:40:36,520 --> 01:40:38,559
Speaker 2: But yeah, I don't know if we're gonna make it

2097
01:40:39,640 --> 01:40:42,160
Speaker 2: at the pace we're going because Mikey's gotta get out

2098
01:40:42,160 --> 01:40:43,360
Speaker 2: of here at one twenty, my guy.

2099
01:40:43,280 --> 01:40:44,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, we're gonna bang. We're gonna get out of this.

2100
01:40:45,240 --> 01:40:48,280
Speaker 1: So look at Schultz said, he's still training for the playoffs.

2101
01:40:48,600 --> 01:40:50,519
Speaker 1: Was my point here, and that's why he's calling out

2102
01:40:50,520 --> 01:40:53,040
Speaker 1: and Ghano to do something to fix it. But he's

2103
01:40:53,080 --> 01:40:55,880
Speaker 1: not scheduled for the playoffs. We have found out the

2104
01:40:55,880 --> 01:40:59,120
Speaker 1: new dates from the PFL August eighteenth and the twenty third.

2105
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Speaker 1: They will be at the Theater at MSG in New

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01:41:01,439 --> 01:41:03,559
Speaker 1: York City. August eighteenth will give us in the main

2107
01:41:03,560 --> 01:41:06,000
Speaker 1: event a heavyweight playoff bout with number two hen In

2108
01:41:06,040 --> 01:41:10,479
Speaker 1: Fejeda against the Crochet King Maurice Green, Larissa Piateko, You're

2109
01:41:10,479 --> 01:41:14,640
Speaker 1: defending women's featherweight champions in the comane against Olena Kolesnik,

2110
01:41:15,080 --> 01:41:18,160
Speaker 1: Goitsavet heavyweight in a playoff against Jordan Heiderman, and a

2111
01:41:18,200 --> 01:41:20,919
Speaker 1: reminder that the couple of those divisions were so ravaged

2112
01:41:20,960 --> 01:41:24,160
Speaker 1: by USADA Luke or ravaged by a lack of USADA

2113
01:41:24,160 --> 01:41:26,880
Speaker 1: at that PFL recently signed. And on the twenty third,

2114
01:41:26,920 --> 01:41:29,599
Speaker 1: we'll get Clay Collard your number one lightweight seed against

2115
01:41:29,640 --> 01:41:34,200
Speaker 1: Shane Bergos, the aforementioned and Am against Bruno Miranda and

2116
01:41:34,240 --> 01:41:38,160
Speaker 1: the Comane along with Sadabusi against Carlos Lal And how

2117
01:41:38,160 --> 01:41:42,920
Speaker 1: about this for the all Magamed matchup, Magomed Magomed Karamov

2118
01:41:43,479 --> 01:41:50,840
Speaker 1: against Magomed you Malatov. There's a lot of Magomed going

2119
01:41:50,880 --> 01:41:53,000
Speaker 1: on there. I know you don't care, do you care?

2120
01:41:53,080 --> 01:41:53,519
Speaker 1: You don't care?

2121
01:41:53,960 --> 01:41:56,200
Speaker 2: No, I mean I like Clay Collard. I'm interested in

2122
01:41:56,240 --> 01:41:58,240
Speaker 2: his stories, a couple other good fights at one fifty five.

2123
01:41:58,280 --> 01:42:01,640
Speaker 2: Shane Burgos is a fun fighter, obviously, but no, I

2124
01:42:01,680 --> 01:42:03,400
Speaker 2: don't really give a shit. I mean unlessen the ask

2125
01:42:03,520 --> 01:42:05,840
Speaker 2: Jeeves cage. I've been waiting for Francis to get into

2126
01:42:05,840 --> 01:42:06,800
Speaker 2: the ask Jeve's cage.

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Speaker 1: All right, I'll put this car into drive now, Luke,

2128
01:42:09,320 --> 01:42:11,640
Speaker 1: and we'll go to the one time per week that

2129
01:42:12,160 --> 01:42:14,960
Speaker 1: we humbly get on our knees and take what's coming.

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Speaker 6: Luke.

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01:42:15,320 --> 01:42:24,160
Speaker 1: It's called dead wrong, Luke. We say a lot of

2132
01:42:24,200 --> 01:42:26,559
Speaker 1: shit into the microphone. Sometimes we're wrong, but at least

2133
01:42:26,600 --> 01:42:28,360
Speaker 1: we give you the chance. But you better come hard

2134
01:42:28,560 --> 01:42:31,040
Speaker 1: and you better come with receipts. This is Owen from

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01:42:31,120 --> 01:42:33,080
Speaker 1: the Netherlands. He says, Hey, guys, the two of you

2136
01:42:33,120 --> 01:42:37,559
Speaker 1: have some wonderful idiosyncrasies that we are all pretty familiar

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01:42:37,640 --> 01:42:40,360
Speaker 1: with by now. Luke, for example, cannot contain himself to

2138
01:42:40,560 --> 01:42:43,240
Speaker 1: just marinate you and his knowledge any chance he gets.

2139
01:42:43,479 --> 01:42:46,720
Speaker 1: You want to lecture on ddp's Dutch ancestors and how

2140
01:42:46,720 --> 01:42:50,280
Speaker 1: they fucked up South Africa. Luke's your guy. BC, on

2141
01:42:50,360 --> 01:42:54,360
Speaker 1: the other hand, constantly and inexplicably goes back to the

2142
01:42:54,400 --> 01:42:58,559
Speaker 1: well of Kobe Bryant is deceased, Middle Dog is not elite,

2143
01:42:59,080 --> 01:43:03,320
Speaker 1: and Justine shat herself in the cage. He also represents

2144
01:43:03,560 --> 01:43:07,840
Speaker 1: a reps Lithuania to a fault to a grammatical fault.

2145
01:43:07,840 --> 01:43:10,599
Speaker 1: This time at one hour and one minute of last Friday,

2146
01:43:10,640 --> 01:43:16,920
Speaker 1: BC referred to unbeaten Walterwaite. I'mantis Staniosis as his Lithuanian brethren. BC.

2147
01:43:17,160 --> 01:43:23,000
Speaker 1: That's dead wrong. Brethren is plural and Staniosis is just one. Dude.

2148
01:43:23,360 --> 01:43:25,960
Speaker 1: I know Luke has been calling you CBS sports brethren

2149
01:43:26,000 --> 01:43:28,920
Speaker 1: for years, but that doesn't make that shit right. Please

2150
01:43:28,960 --> 01:43:32,920
Speaker 1: never change, guys, not too much though. Owen from the Netherlands.

2151
01:43:32,920 --> 01:43:36,200
Speaker 1: So Luke, the pedantic police here are telling me that

2152
01:43:37,240 --> 01:43:40,680
Speaker 1: that was a plural reference of brethren. He's still Lithuania,

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01:43:40,720 --> 01:43:41,519
Speaker 1: and Luke, who cares.

2154
01:43:41,960 --> 01:43:44,200
Speaker 2: You know what I would say is when Chamelionaire told

2155
01:43:44,400 --> 01:43:48,000
Speaker 2: called Paul Wall his brethren. Yeah, I didn't. I didn't

2156
01:43:48,000 --> 01:43:50,679
Speaker 2: fact check him. You know what I'm saying. I believed him.

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01:43:51,280 --> 01:43:53,280
Speaker 1: Well, okay, was I wrong? I guess I was. Luke,

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01:43:53,280 --> 01:43:55,719
Speaker 1: I'll take the l Thank you Owen for playing. Let's

2159
01:43:55,720 --> 01:43:59,240
Speaker 1: go over to JB. He says, good day. MKA. Don't

2160
01:43:59,400 --> 01:44:02,920
Speaker 1: think I've forgot about UBC. During episode four sixty three,

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01:44:02,960 --> 01:44:06,879
Speaker 1: at an hour thirteen, our beloved Factory Town fight commenter

2162
01:44:07,400 --> 01:44:11,040
Speaker 1: mentioned tay to Ivasa admitted to rushing his last fight

2163
01:44:11,280 --> 01:44:14,880
Speaker 1: due to wanting more money for his daughter during the holidays. Well, BC,

2164
01:44:15,520 --> 01:44:17,240
Speaker 1: we all know you look at the world through those

2165
01:44:17,280 --> 01:44:20,520
Speaker 1: one hundred and twenty five pound women's flyweight tinted glasses.

2166
01:44:21,240 --> 01:44:23,920
Speaker 1: But that child next to tie, that's his only child,

2167
01:44:24,160 --> 01:44:28,519
Speaker 1: and it's a son named Carter Tuivasa. Ultimately, this maintains

2168
01:44:28,560 --> 01:44:31,960
Speaker 1: your title to the best director chair Tumblin' mail bag

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01:44:32,000 --> 01:44:38,400
Speaker 1: Sniffin dead wrong beloviator of our era chairs. JB. Yeah, Luke,

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01:44:38,439 --> 01:44:41,320
Speaker 1: apparently I mixed up the You ever noticed, like your

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01:44:41,360 --> 01:44:43,360
Speaker 1: parents or your aunts and uncles, once they get past

2172
01:44:43,400 --> 01:44:46,439
Speaker 1: age sixty, they can't identify the sex anymore of an animal.

2173
01:44:46,520 --> 01:44:48,439
Speaker 1: Every like male is suddenly a female to them. I

2174
01:44:48,439 --> 01:44:50,679
Speaker 1: apparently did that early on Luke, early on set.

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01:44:51,320 --> 01:44:54,519
Speaker 2: Sorry, sorry I haven't noticed that.

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01:44:54,920 --> 01:44:57,320
Speaker 1: Oh watch closely, Luke. Next time you're around grandparents or

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01:44:57,320 --> 01:44:59,559
Speaker 1: great uncles or your parents and your dad, you know,

2178
01:44:59,600 --> 01:45:02,280
Speaker 1: and you know your your female dog will run by

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01:45:02,320 --> 01:45:03,840
Speaker 1: that he's known for ten years. It'll be like, oh,

2180
01:45:03,880 --> 01:45:06,160
Speaker 1: look at him, he's so cute, and you're like, yo, dad,

2181
01:45:06,200 --> 01:45:06,719
Speaker 1: what's wrong?

2182
01:45:08,439 --> 01:45:10,600
Speaker 2: Okay, I'll be on the lookout.

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01:45:10,479 --> 01:45:12,400
Speaker 1: All right, thanks JB. I guess I'm over for two.

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01:45:12,439 --> 01:45:14,920
Speaker 1: To start off here, let's hear from uh. I believe

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01:45:14,920 --> 01:45:17,920
Speaker 1: this is Leo. He says at episode four sixty two,

2186
01:45:18,000 --> 01:45:21,120
Speaker 1: at fourteen minutes, Luke states that Vulk is making guys

2187
01:45:21,160 --> 01:45:25,479
Speaker 1: with significant heightened reach advantages. Yes, the distance battle, he

2188
01:45:25,560 --> 01:45:27,799
Speaker 1: may be shorter, but Vulk has had a reach advantage

2189
01:45:27,840 --> 01:45:31,400
Speaker 1: over every single one of his UFC opponents except TKZ,

2190
01:45:31,880 --> 01:45:34,160
Speaker 1: who had a longer reach by a half inch. Luke,

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01:45:34,200 --> 01:45:36,400
Speaker 1: I thought you were the guy who cares about stats.

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01:45:36,800 --> 01:45:39,920
Speaker 1: Stick to the thirty five and underline you washed piece

2193
01:45:39,960 --> 01:45:41,920
Speaker 1: of shit, love y'all it's Leo.

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01:45:42,560 --> 01:45:44,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's fair. He is the shorter guy. I mean,

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01:45:44,479 --> 01:45:48,080
Speaker 2: you know, they max Holloway's arms got shorter as they

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01:45:48,080 --> 01:45:51,120
Speaker 2: measured him. So like, whether Volkanowski literally has a less

2197
01:45:51,439 --> 01:45:54,000
Speaker 2: reach advantage, I don't know, but certainly on paper it's

2198
01:45:54,040 --> 01:45:56,679
Speaker 2: not quite true short. But you know, here's what's interesting.

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Speaker 1: Volkanovski's greatness of late Luke has had a couple people make,

2200
01:46:00,040 --> 01:46:03,880
Speaker 1: almost like Floyd Mayweather references in that regard. Both Floyd

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01:46:03,920 --> 01:46:07,200
Speaker 1: and Vulk have deceptively long reaches and it's been a

2202
01:46:07,320 --> 01:46:10,160
Speaker 1: key to their success. Like like Floyd has looked at

2203
01:46:10,240 --> 01:46:13,599
Speaker 1: as a smaller, right, not heavy hitting guy, but that

2204
01:46:13,600 --> 01:46:16,040
Speaker 1: that not only does he have an insane knowledge of

2205
01:46:16,720 --> 01:46:20,679
Speaker 1: commanding reach and playing chess, having that sneaky long reach

2206
01:46:20,760 --> 01:46:23,080
Speaker 1: is sometimes the difference looking big sequences.

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01:46:23,120 --> 01:46:26,479
Speaker 2: You know, I agree, No wet I made that compare well,

2208
01:46:26,520 --> 01:46:28,960
Speaker 2: not the one you're making, but the Floyd Mayweather comparison

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01:46:29,000 --> 01:46:31,679
Speaker 2: on the post fight show. Yep.

2210
01:46:31,960 --> 01:46:35,040
Speaker 1: Look here's our final ones from JB Good Day, Team MK.

2211
01:46:35,600 --> 01:46:38,400
Speaker 1: I have the most pedantic uncivilized and idiotic, dead wrong

2212
01:46:38,439 --> 01:46:42,080
Speaker 1: to submit. During episode four sixty two, at an hour seventeen,

2213
01:46:42,240 --> 01:46:45,759
Speaker 1: Darth Thomas claims the greatest heavyweight in UFC history, step

2214
01:46:45,800 --> 01:46:50,200
Speaker 1: A Miocicch is forty one. Unfortunately for Lieutenant Douche flu,

2215
01:46:50,640 --> 01:46:54,639
Speaker 1: that's dead wrong. With Steve Bay's birthday being August nineteenth,

2216
01:46:54,720 --> 01:46:57,720
Speaker 1: nineteen eighty two, that would make him forty. I know

2217
01:46:57,840 --> 01:47:00,920
Speaker 1: you're rounding up those numbers like you wish the bud

2218
01:47:01,000 --> 01:47:04,800
Speaker 1: tenders at your favorite local DC dispensary would do to

2219
01:47:04,840 --> 01:47:09,040
Speaker 1: your orders of sour bailbag cush. But details matter. Stepe

2220
01:47:09,040 --> 01:47:12,679
Speaker 1: A's forty, You, my vaping comrade, are still a DoD

2221
01:47:12,840 --> 01:47:17,280
Speaker 1: Jomny cheers, best regards, JB. You're gonna take that out.

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01:47:17,760 --> 01:47:20,439
Speaker 2: He will be forty one in a month, but I'll take.

2223
01:47:20,320 --> 01:47:23,360
Speaker 1: The l all right, Rooke. We close with a fun segment.

2224
01:47:23,760 --> 01:47:26,880
Speaker 1: We're gonna do a little MK Discord trivia. We have

2225
01:47:26,920 --> 01:47:30,000
Speaker 1: a message here from Captain V. Listener of the show

2226
01:47:30,040 --> 01:47:34,200
Speaker 1: says to Mikey, So I run the official MK discord account.

2227
01:47:34,439 --> 01:47:37,680
Speaker 1: I'm running an MMA trivia. I'm curious how Luke and

2228
01:47:37,760 --> 01:47:40,920
Speaker 1: BC would do on the first iteration. So Luke I

2229
01:47:41,000 --> 01:47:45,000
Speaker 1: believe they have fourteen questions in total. You and I

2230
01:47:45,040 --> 01:47:46,240
Speaker 1: are going to go head to head. There is a

2231
01:47:46,320 --> 01:47:50,040
Speaker 1: fifteenth if we need a tiebreaker. How we did this

2232
01:47:50,680 --> 01:47:53,639
Speaker 1: was Mikey independently asked you and I seven of them,

2233
01:47:53,720 --> 01:47:55,840
Speaker 1: half of them, and we will read the other half

2234
01:47:55,880 --> 01:47:58,600
Speaker 1: to each other in real time and keep updating the

2235
01:47:58,600 --> 01:48:00,840
Speaker 1: scorecard as we go along. I know we're gonna do

2236
01:48:00,880 --> 01:48:02,960
Speaker 1: this in twenty eight minutes or less. So let me

2237
01:48:03,000 --> 01:48:04,960
Speaker 1: ask you this, Luke. What are the steaks?

2238
01:48:06,800 --> 01:48:08,000
Speaker 2: Do we get one from? Mikey?

2239
01:48:08,840 --> 01:48:11,439
Speaker 1: Mikey? Did the people put some steaks on this on

2240
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Speaker 1: this grill?

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01:48:12,200 --> 01:48:12,320
Speaker 2: All?

2242
01:48:12,400 --> 01:48:16,000
Speaker 1: Right? Did they? Did they put some shrimp on the bobby?

2243
01:48:16,560 --> 01:48:18,759
Speaker 2: Didn't they? They don't care. They don't show, right, Look.

2244
01:48:18,640 --> 01:48:20,800
Speaker 1: You have to wear that DC hat on Monday, the

2245
01:48:20,840 --> 01:48:21,360
Speaker 1: whole show.

2246
01:48:21,600 --> 01:48:22,559
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't care about that.

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01:48:22,600 --> 01:48:23,960
Speaker 1: Fine, all right? What do I have to do, Luke?

2248
01:48:24,000 --> 01:48:26,519
Speaker 2: You tell me you gotta blow bread Kamoto? I mean,

2249
01:48:26,560 --> 01:48:27,360
Speaker 2: you just gotta go that.

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Speaker 1: I just wouldn't do that. It's just not what I'm

2251
01:48:29,640 --> 01:48:32,800
Speaker 1: interested in, Luke. Okay, all right, all right, Well maybe

2252
01:48:32,840 --> 01:48:36,920
Speaker 1: we won't get there. Uh So for for Luke, they say,

2253
01:48:37,000 --> 01:48:39,479
Speaker 1: here's what Mikey wants you to have to wear the

2254
01:48:39,479 --> 01:48:42,200
Speaker 1: the one love Bob Marley reggae hat the next time that.

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01:48:42,240 --> 01:48:44,120
Speaker 2: It's not gonna fit my melon. I got a Tito

2256
01:48:44,200 --> 01:48:45,800
Speaker 2: sized milling. It's not gonna work.

2257
01:48:46,120 --> 01:48:47,760
Speaker 1: I had. I wore seven and five as in high

2258
01:48:47,760 --> 01:48:49,880
Speaker 1: school and it's only gotten much bigger since then. Dude,

2259
01:48:49,880 --> 01:48:50,880
Speaker 1: I've got to I've.

2260
01:48:50,720 --> 01:48:53,160
Speaker 2: Got to what size is this one that fits?

2261
01:48:53,760 --> 01:48:55,439
Speaker 1: That's like a nine and a half? I bet, Luke,

2262
01:48:55,479 --> 01:48:58,040
Speaker 1: I bets what size does that say? I can't read

2263
01:48:58,080 --> 01:49:02,000
Speaker 1: it seven and seven eights? Yeah, we probably have the

2264
01:49:02,000 --> 01:49:04,040
Speaker 1: same size. I'm not as you would say, I'm not

2265
01:49:04,080 --> 01:49:07,360
Speaker 1: doing a bit. Every adult in my family on both

2266
01:49:07,400 --> 01:49:08,920
Speaker 1: sides has huge melons, Luke.

2267
01:49:09,120 --> 01:49:11,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean my head is you know, I look

2268
01:49:11,200 --> 01:49:15,320
Speaker 2: like I I've got some kind of special needs issue.

2269
01:49:15,360 --> 01:49:16,120
Speaker 2: I look terrible.

2270
01:49:16,200 --> 01:49:18,519
Speaker 1: So you know, all right, Luke, we're gonna ask the question.

2271
01:49:18,560 --> 01:49:20,360
Speaker 1: We're also going to reveal how we did on it.

2272
01:49:20,400 --> 01:49:23,840
Speaker 1: We've got fourteen questions. I'm calling up the questions right now,

2273
01:49:24,680 --> 01:49:27,160
Speaker 1: and here we will begin. Do you want to alternate

2274
01:49:27,160 --> 01:49:28,880
Speaker 1: reading ours? Luke? I'll go with number one. Here we

2275
01:49:28,920 --> 01:49:32,559
Speaker 1: go first one, Luke Thomas. Question number one, who has

2276
01:49:32,600 --> 01:49:37,600
Speaker 1: the most all time consecutive UFC title defenses.

2277
01:49:39,080 --> 01:49:43,040
Speaker 2: All time most consecutive UFC title defenses, that would be

2278
01:49:43,080 --> 01:49:44,120
Speaker 2: Anderson Silva.

2279
01:49:46,320 --> 01:49:50,799
Speaker 1: In correct, Luke. Anderson's ten was passed by my correct

2280
01:49:50,840 --> 01:49:55,559
Speaker 1: answer of Demetrius Johnson, who had eleven consecutive before the

2281
01:49:55,680 --> 01:49:59,720
Speaker 1: one championship trade. I believe John Jones might be able

2282
01:49:59,760 --> 01:50:02,080
Speaker 1: to eat that in terms of total title wins, Luke,

2283
01:50:02,120 --> 01:50:05,439
Speaker 1: but his reigns were all interrupted. So the one nothing

2284
01:50:05,560 --> 01:50:08,040
Speaker 1: BC after the first one go ahead, Luke.

2285
01:50:07,960 --> 01:50:10,880
Speaker 2: As right first, uh so the one this is? I

2286
01:50:10,880 --> 01:50:13,719
Speaker 2: didn't they gave me this, so this one's pretty easy.

2287
01:50:13,840 --> 01:50:18,560
Speaker 2: Name all the current UFC champions.

2288
01:50:17,200 --> 01:50:22,240
Speaker 1: Okay, uh vacant, vacant, bantamweight and featherweight. On the women's side,

2289
01:50:22,280 --> 01:50:26,040
Speaker 1: Alexa Grosso is the one twenty five or Jean Way

2290
01:50:26,120 --> 01:50:28,840
Speaker 1: Lee is the one one five. On the men's side,

2291
01:50:28,880 --> 01:50:33,479
Speaker 1: we can go alex Chandre Pantosia at one twenty five.

2292
01:50:33,920 --> 01:50:38,799
Speaker 1: Bantamweight is al Jamaine Sterling. Featherweight at one is Alexander

2293
01:50:38,840 --> 01:50:44,840
Speaker 1: Volkanowski Mahachev at lightweight, uh Leon Edwards at welterweight, is

2294
01:50:44,880 --> 01:50:48,840
Speaker 1: he at middleweight, vacant at light heavyweight. John Jones is

2295
01:50:48,840 --> 01:50:51,000
Speaker 1: the greatest of all time. That's a point for BC.

2296
01:50:51,800 --> 01:50:53,679
Speaker 2: Yes, also I got that one right as well.

2297
01:50:54,000 --> 01:50:56,920
Speaker 1: Okay, so our updated standings, Luke, two to one.

2298
01:50:56,960 --> 01:50:59,200
Speaker 2: I mean, Mikey is Mikey is counting the ones we've

2299
01:50:59,360 --> 01:51:02,759
Speaker 2: just done. But we've already done seven of these already,

2300
01:51:02,760 --> 01:51:04,400
Speaker 2: so I'm not sure how the point total is supposed

2301
01:51:04,439 --> 01:51:06,200
Speaker 2: to look. Oh he's oh, he's gonna ad him up

2302
01:51:06,240 --> 01:51:07,639
Speaker 2: in real time. Oh okay, I'll see.

2303
01:51:07,439 --> 01:51:09,240
Speaker 1: Okay, Yeah, you know, we just we just had this

2304
01:51:09,280 --> 01:51:11,160
Speaker 1: conversation to kick off the segment, Luke, which.

2305
01:51:11,000 --> 01:51:12,360
Speaker 2: Is it's a weird way to do it, but I

2306
01:51:12,400 --> 01:51:13,760
Speaker 2: don't like it, but you know, whatever it is, what

2307
01:51:13,800 --> 01:51:14,000
Speaker 2: it is?

2308
01:51:14,320 --> 01:51:16,240
Speaker 1: What else would you do? How else would you do it?

2309
01:51:16,320 --> 01:51:16,519
Speaker 2: Luke?

2310
01:51:16,800 --> 01:51:19,080
Speaker 1: Bringing my I mean the thing, I get it.

2311
01:51:19,160 --> 01:51:21,040
Speaker 2: You want to save it. They don't want to reveal

2312
01:51:21,120 --> 01:51:23,680
Speaker 2: the scores up front from the seven we've already done.

2313
01:51:23,720 --> 01:51:27,639
Speaker 2: I understand. Just fucking ask the question. Just fucking asked

2314
01:51:27,640 --> 01:51:28,000
Speaker 2: the question.

2315
01:51:28,120 --> 01:51:29,840
Speaker 1: I was giving you more room to complain, Luke.

2316
01:51:30,200 --> 01:51:32,320
Speaker 2: You could have it. I'm going I'm okay, I'm okay,

2317
01:51:32,320 --> 01:51:32,639
Speaker 2: all right.

2318
01:51:32,800 --> 01:51:35,240
Speaker 1: Question number two on my list, Luke, here we go.

2319
01:51:35,600 --> 01:51:39,639
Speaker 1: Rosnami Unis has a KO loss in a title fight.

2320
01:51:40,000 --> 01:51:41,840
Speaker 1: Who beat her and how did it happen?

2321
01:51:42,360 --> 01:51:43,960
Speaker 2: Just gone Drage slammed her on her head.

2322
01:51:44,880 --> 01:51:48,280
Speaker 1: That would be correct, Luke, I had the same answer, correct,

2323
01:51:48,520 --> 01:51:54,559
Speaker 1: ding ding ding our updated scoreboard BC three LT two. Luke,

2324
01:51:54,640 --> 01:51:56,160
Speaker 1: let's go to the second question on your list.

2325
01:51:56,720 --> 01:51:59,799
Speaker 2: Very good? Uh, GSP has only lost to two people?

2326
01:52:00,120 --> 01:52:02,559
Speaker 2: Name them?

2327
01:52:02,680 --> 01:52:12,200
Speaker 1: Okay, GSP has lost to BJ Pennin. No, wait, okay,

2328
01:52:12,240 --> 01:52:15,559
Speaker 1: definitely Matt Sarah? Is it BJ Penner? Matt Hughes, Luke,

2329
01:52:15,600 --> 01:52:18,160
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go with Matt Hughes and Matt Sarah are

2330
01:52:18,200 --> 01:52:20,679
Speaker 1: the only people that beat him because he beat BJ twice. Yes,

2331
01:52:20,760 --> 01:52:22,320
Speaker 1: the mats there you go?

2332
01:52:22,520 --> 01:52:22,840
Speaker 2: Correct?

2333
01:52:22,880 --> 01:52:24,519
Speaker 1: All right, Luke Thomas, did you get.

2334
01:52:24,439 --> 01:52:26,400
Speaker 2: That one right as well? Yes? I got that one right.

2335
01:52:26,640 --> 01:52:28,280
Speaker 1: Four to three in real time. We'll go to the

2336
01:52:28,320 --> 01:52:32,360
Speaker 1: next one. Luke, is the Autosnia has had one split

2337
01:52:32,400 --> 01:52:34,200
Speaker 1: decision win in his UFC career?

2338
01:52:34,400 --> 01:52:36,559
Speaker 2: Who did that come against Marvin Vttori?

2339
01:52:37,760 --> 01:52:41,280
Speaker 1: Correct? Luke, and I also got that right, But I

2340
01:52:41,320 --> 01:52:43,800
Speaker 1: was nervous about Joel Romero. I thought that was a

2341
01:52:43,800 --> 01:52:45,400
Speaker 1: split decision in my mind, but I.

2342
01:52:45,320 --> 01:52:47,439
Speaker 2: Did say it's a split decision. It is a split

2343
01:52:47,479 --> 01:52:48,679
Speaker 2: decision in your mind.

2344
01:52:48,840 --> 01:52:50,439
Speaker 1: Yeah, In my mind because I gave it three to

2345
01:52:50,439 --> 01:52:52,080
Speaker 1: two to Romero and people still hate me for it.

2346
01:52:52,120 --> 01:52:54,560
Speaker 1: Your updated standings are five to four. Luke, read me

2347
01:52:54,600 --> 01:52:55,960
Speaker 1: your third question, please.

2348
01:52:55,760 --> 01:52:59,000
Speaker 2: Third question? Who coached the fighter nicknamed Platinum to victory

2349
01:52:59,000 --> 01:53:02,400
Speaker 2: against Mickey gall Uh?

2350
01:53:02,520 --> 01:53:07,080
Speaker 1: That would be Lotry Gonzalez.

2351
01:53:08,600 --> 01:53:11,439
Speaker 2: It's correct, it's correct. I also got that one correct

2352
01:53:11,439 --> 01:53:11,800
Speaker 2: as well.

2353
01:53:12,240 --> 01:53:15,439
Speaker 1: Okay, there you go, coach Lotri the miss Luke, he

2354
01:53:15,520 --> 01:53:18,280
Speaker 1: has made an honest woman out of her. Congratulations once again, she.

2355
01:53:18,280 --> 01:53:19,760
Speaker 2: Has made an honest man out of him.

2356
01:53:20,120 --> 01:53:23,280
Speaker 1: That is a great point at his ocean's daddy. Right there,

2357
01:53:23,600 --> 01:53:29,280
Speaker 1: Luke named the fighter who just wanted to bang. Let

2358
01:53:29,360 --> 01:53:30,920
Speaker 1: him bang, bro.

2359
01:53:31,120 --> 01:53:32,080
Speaker 2: Please, Julian Lane.

2360
01:53:33,280 --> 01:53:37,200
Speaker 1: He got it, Luke. I also got that correct. The

2361
01:53:37,280 --> 01:53:40,799
Speaker 1: updated standings or BC seven Luke six. This is tighter

2362
01:53:40,800 --> 01:53:42,519
Speaker 1: than the junior prom Right now, Luke, I'll go to

2363
01:53:42,560 --> 01:53:43,280
Speaker 1: my next question.

2364
01:53:43,760 --> 01:53:46,000
Speaker 2: No, no, no, is it mine? Is it mine?

2365
01:53:46,760 --> 01:53:49,040
Speaker 1: Yeah? You're right, Thank you, thank you, Phil, Please, thank

2366
01:53:49,040 --> 01:53:49,400
Speaker 1: you mich.

2367
01:53:49,439 --> 01:53:52,920
Speaker 2: Okay, So question number four correct? Question number four? Who

2368
01:53:53,000 --> 01:53:56,479
Speaker 2: has absorbed the most significant strikes in UFC history to date?

2369
01:53:58,880 --> 01:54:03,160
Speaker 1: That's a very interesting question, es. I would have to

2370
01:54:03,200 --> 01:54:05,000
Speaker 1: be have somebody who has been in there a ship

2371
01:54:05,560 --> 01:54:08,200
Speaker 1: load of time. So I'm going to my two answers

2372
01:54:08,200 --> 01:54:13,240
Speaker 1: would be Max Holloway or Frankie Edgar. I have to

2373
01:54:13,280 --> 01:54:15,000
Speaker 1: pick one. I'm going to pick Luke.

2374
01:54:16,479 --> 01:54:21,920
Speaker 2: Max Holloway that is correct, also had a correct so good.

2375
01:54:22,520 --> 01:54:26,160
Speaker 1: You see in the lead, Luke, who has the most

2376
01:54:26,479 --> 01:54:35,240
Speaker 1: leg kick finishes in UFC history. Ed's in Borbosa correct

2377
01:54:35,360 --> 01:54:38,280
Speaker 1: and you pull even in the standings. Luke, I had

2378
01:54:38,320 --> 01:54:40,800
Speaker 1: guessed Jose Aldough and as soon as I.

2379
01:54:40,680 --> 01:54:43,160
Speaker 2: Almost said all though, I almost, but then Favor didn't

2380
01:54:43,200 --> 01:54:44,800
Speaker 2: go down, you know what I mean, Like Favor just

2381
01:54:44,880 --> 01:54:45,800
Speaker 2: kind of took it right.

2382
01:54:46,040 --> 01:54:49,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, as soon as as soon as he said, uh Barbosa,

2383
01:54:49,600 --> 01:54:52,720
Speaker 1: I was like, damn eight to eight, Luke, your next

2384
01:54:52,800 --> 01:54:53,480
Speaker 1: question please?

2385
01:54:53,800 --> 01:54:56,640
Speaker 2: All right? Bj Penn lost twice to this fighter as

2386
01:54:56,640 --> 01:54:58,440
Speaker 2: a challenger for a UFC title.

2387
01:54:58,440 --> 01:55:02,720
Speaker 1: Who was it, Frankie Edgar?

2388
01:55:04,000 --> 01:55:05,360
Speaker 2: That is totally incorrect.

2389
01:55:05,640 --> 01:55:08,400
Speaker 1: Oh, as a challenger, frick frick.

2390
01:55:08,200 --> 01:55:11,560
Speaker 2: It was you submitted it, fucker, You're off. Sorry, I

2391
01:55:11,560 --> 01:55:14,760
Speaker 2: got that one right, Go, let's go.

2392
01:55:15,160 --> 01:55:18,440
Speaker 1: It was what George sat Pierre Saint Pierre Saint Pierre

2393
01:55:19,480 --> 01:55:23,600
Speaker 1: ah Man, I went too quickly right there, Luke. Premature, premature,

2394
01:55:23,760 --> 01:55:27,040
Speaker 1: Jack on me updated score nine to eight LT. Wow,

2395
01:55:27,200 --> 01:55:28,840
Speaker 1: this made a turn for the worst here. It's like

2396
01:55:28,840 --> 01:55:30,440
Speaker 1: our free throw contest, remember.

2397
01:55:30,120 --> 01:55:33,160
Speaker 2: That, Yeah, the one that never made the light.

2398
01:55:33,080 --> 01:55:37,360
Speaker 1: Of day, Luke. This fighter appeared in season five of

2399
01:55:37,520 --> 01:55:41,040
Speaker 1: Cobra Kai barely had any lines, but he will still

2400
01:55:41,120 --> 01:55:43,320
Speaker 1: quote beat yo ass. Who is he?

2401
01:55:43,880 --> 01:55:44,640
Speaker 2: Tyron Woodley?

2402
01:55:45,600 --> 01:55:47,760
Speaker 1: Correct? And so did I. I believe I should have

2403
01:55:47,760 --> 01:55:50,080
Speaker 1: gotten a bonus point for mentioning that his name was

2404
01:55:50,120 --> 01:55:52,040
Speaker 1: sense Odell in that show, Luke.

2405
01:55:51,840 --> 01:55:53,680
Speaker 2: But I did not know that I would have missed

2406
01:55:53,680 --> 01:55:54,080
Speaker 2: that one.

2407
01:55:54,400 --> 01:55:57,200
Speaker 1: Ten to nine LT. While this thing's hot right now.

2408
01:55:57,160 --> 01:55:59,640
Speaker 2: Luke, I gotta tell you I haven't seen it because

2409
01:55:59,640 --> 01:56:01,720
Speaker 2: I don't care about the lives of teenagers, all right.

2410
01:56:01,760 --> 01:56:03,879
Speaker 2: I don't find teenagers. You're not interesting.

2411
01:56:03,920 --> 01:56:05,920
Speaker 1: You're such an old band, Luke. I mean, I'm sure

2412
01:56:05,920 --> 01:56:07,640
Speaker 1: if I checked your search history, there'd be a few

2413
01:56:07,640 --> 01:56:12,040
Speaker 1: teens that fell in there. All right, Larry, go ahead,

2414
01:56:12,080 --> 01:56:12,520
Speaker 1: go to you guys.

2415
01:56:12,760 --> 01:56:14,560
Speaker 2: You might find some you might find some milks of

2416
01:56:14,640 --> 01:56:15,320
Speaker 2: that search history.

2417
01:56:15,360 --> 01:56:19,200
Speaker 1: I'm just saying possible, all right, all right, all.

2418
01:56:19,160 --> 01:56:22,240
Speaker 2: Right, Question number six BC. This one's a hard one.

2419
01:56:22,520 --> 01:56:25,120
Speaker 2: Who was the first UFC women's flyweight champion? Who did

2420
01:56:25,160 --> 01:56:26,320
Speaker 2: she beat to win the title?

2421
01:56:26,360 --> 01:56:31,680
Speaker 1: Two porter That would be the Ultimate Fighter champion, Nico Montano,

2422
01:56:32,080 --> 01:56:38,480
Speaker 1: who defeated late replacement Roxanne Mada Furry once once rolled

2423
01:56:38,520 --> 01:56:39,800
Speaker 1: with Missus Thomas.

2424
01:56:39,960 --> 01:56:43,240
Speaker 2: You know she did several times. We both got that right.

2425
01:56:43,760 --> 01:56:46,400
Speaker 1: Eleven to ten, Luke in the lead, I've got one

2426
01:56:46,440 --> 01:56:48,360
Speaker 1: more question and then you have one more question right,

2427
01:56:48,400 --> 01:56:51,000
Speaker 1: So we got I got I gotta get both right

2428
01:56:51,480 --> 01:56:53,560
Speaker 1: and you've got to get one wrong. Here, Let's see

2429
01:56:53,600 --> 01:56:59,080
Speaker 1: what happens, Luke, who was the first UFC lightweight champion.

2430
01:57:01,760 --> 01:57:03,600
Speaker 2: Jen's pulver damn.

2431
01:57:04,840 --> 01:57:07,560
Speaker 1: Not only did you get that right, Luke, I had said,

2432
01:57:07,640 --> 01:57:09,880
Speaker 1: I had panicked and said Pat Militage. And then as

2433
01:57:09,880 --> 01:57:12,960
Speaker 1: soon as Mikey said, Jens, I know, but I thought

2434
01:57:12,960 --> 01:57:15,320
Speaker 1: it was one of those scenarios where it was called

2435
01:57:15,400 --> 01:57:17,760
Speaker 1: lightweight back then, but it was really walter weight weight

2436
01:57:17,840 --> 01:57:20,160
Speaker 1: because there was smases.

2437
01:57:20,320 --> 01:57:20,720
Speaker 2: Yeah.

2438
01:57:20,920 --> 01:57:23,800
Speaker 1: Uh so I got that wrong, Luke. You now have

2439
01:57:23,880 --> 01:57:27,040
Speaker 1: a two point lead entering the final question, which means

2440
01:57:27,080 --> 01:57:28,840
Speaker 1: you have already won. But let's play it out.

2441
01:57:29,520 --> 01:57:31,320
Speaker 2: Uh this one, actually, I feel like you can get

2442
01:57:31,320 --> 01:57:35,160
Speaker 2: some redemption. You can get some redemption. Uh Okay. Connor

2443
01:57:35,200 --> 01:57:37,600
Speaker 2: McGregor threw a dolly at a bus that we know

2444
01:57:38,640 --> 01:57:42,520
Speaker 2: name three fighters on the bus, Ray.

2445
01:57:42,360 --> 01:57:50,200
Speaker 1: Boorg, Rose, Nama Unis.

2446
01:57:55,400 --> 01:57:59,240
Speaker 2: So so are you you? You zeroed out on my screen?

2447
01:57:59,280 --> 01:58:04,120
Speaker 1: Do it again, Michael Kiessa question mark correct?

2448
01:58:04,320 --> 01:58:06,800
Speaker 2: You got them? So did I Very good? Very good?

2449
01:58:06,800 --> 01:58:07,200
Speaker 1: All right?

2450
01:58:07,200 --> 01:58:11,880
Speaker 2: So the final score thirteen to eleven. I win again.

2451
01:58:12,760 --> 01:58:15,280
Speaker 1: So, Luke, what's my punishment? You didn't agree, You didn't

2452
01:58:15,480 --> 01:58:17,680
Speaker 1: you didn't stipulate, you didn't put it out there.

2453
01:58:18,240 --> 01:58:20,920
Speaker 2: I'm gonna call Bretto Kimoto and we're gonna figure this out.

2454
01:58:22,360 --> 01:58:24,480
Speaker 1: All right. How about the instead Brett has to appear

2455
01:58:24,480 --> 01:58:25,600
Speaker 1: on Monday show, Luke.

2456
01:58:26,720 --> 01:58:29,440
Speaker 2: I don't mind that. That's fine, that's fine if you

2457
01:58:29,440 --> 01:58:30,720
Speaker 2: can figure out you know.

2458
01:58:30,960 --> 01:58:33,200
Speaker 1: Oh wait, that's not a punishment to bring my old friends.

2459
01:58:33,240 --> 01:58:37,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know. You know what, I'm making you

2460
01:58:37,160 --> 01:58:39,160
Speaker 2: a hot way next time we're in studio or some shit.

2461
01:58:39,240 --> 01:58:39,640
Speaker 2: I don't know.

2462
01:58:40,080 --> 01:58:42,480
Speaker 1: All right, no fullatio, but thank you very much, thank

2463
01:58:42,520 --> 01:58:44,560
Speaker 1: you Mikey for setting this up in our Hey.

2464
01:58:44,640 --> 01:58:45,720
Speaker 2: Thanks for the discord folks.

2465
01:58:45,800 --> 01:58:48,760
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, Captain v over there at the MK discord.

2466
01:58:48,840 --> 01:58:52,520
Speaker 1: Overall final score twelve for Luke, ten for BC. That's

2467
01:58:52,560 --> 01:58:53,960
Speaker 1: your fantastic show.

2468
01:58:54,000 --> 01:58:54,360
Speaker 2: For today.

2469
01:58:54,400 --> 01:58:56,160
Speaker 1: I mean, how good is this show? Right? Those the

2470
01:58:56,200 --> 01:58:57,760
Speaker 1: best two hours of your week, guaranteed.

2471
01:58:58,400 --> 01:59:02,320
Speaker 2: It's a long show. It's a long show and.

2472
01:59:02,360 --> 01:59:05,560
Speaker 1: All the good ways, Luke right, all the phallic ways. Yeah,

2473
01:59:06,200 --> 01:59:10,320
Speaker 1: what a fallacy this show is. You can get Showtime

2474
01:59:10,400 --> 01:59:13,040
Speaker 1: right now, thirty days free. We got Showtime Championship Boxing

2475
01:59:13,080 --> 01:59:15,240
Speaker 1: back with a bang this weekend and so much more.

2476
01:59:15,320 --> 01:59:18,240
Speaker 1: Check that out by our merch fantastically over here at

2477
01:59:18,240 --> 01:59:22,360
Speaker 1: Morning Coombat dot store. Look, what would you say, honestly,

2478
01:59:22,440 --> 01:59:24,480
Speaker 1: is your favorite piece of MK merch that you own?

2479
01:59:24,680 --> 01:59:26,760
Speaker 1: What's the if you had to throw them all away?

2480
01:59:26,800 --> 01:59:27,480
Speaker 1: Except for one?

2481
01:59:27,600 --> 01:59:33,120
Speaker 2: Which one with bomber jacket? Bomber jacket black or green? Green?

2482
01:59:33,320 --> 01:59:35,040
Speaker 2: Because it's military green. I like it.

2483
01:59:35,360 --> 01:59:37,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, if you're gonna keep the green, I'm gonna keep

2484
01:59:37,640 --> 01:59:39,720
Speaker 1: the black. Yeah, that's great. That's probably our best ship

2485
01:59:39,880 --> 01:59:42,240
Speaker 1: right there. We have a drug rug that's tremendous as well.

2486
01:59:42,280 --> 01:59:44,120
Speaker 2: I would have loved to get Izzy in studio and

2487
01:59:44,160 --> 01:59:46,600
Speaker 2: then him just call you the N word like six times,

2488
01:59:46,640 --> 01:59:47,960
Speaker 2: just to see what you would do to you, you

2489
01:59:48,040 --> 01:59:48,480
Speaker 2: know what I mean?

2490
01:59:49,320 --> 01:59:52,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, I know, I know. Look, I'm just a yeah,

2491
01:59:52,600 --> 01:59:56,040
Speaker 1: I'm just a yeah, I'm just all that stuff. Thank you,

2492
01:59:56,120 --> 01:59:58,720
Speaker 1: Mikey Moore Mile for having our back as always. Not

2493
01:59:58,760 --> 02:00:01,160
Speaker 1: a just in today's show, but life right there. Look,

2494
02:00:01,200 --> 02:00:03,560
Speaker 1: Mikey's one of those warriors, right, I mean that.

2495
02:00:03,520 --> 02:00:06,120
Speaker 2: Guy will go to right or die.

2496
02:00:07,160 --> 02:00:09,320
Speaker 1: He will go to bat for the brand, for the MK.

2497
02:00:09,480 --> 02:00:11,520
Speaker 1: I mean, Gaff's got an MK tattoo on his arm.

2498
02:00:11,520 --> 02:00:12,800
Speaker 1: How come no one talks about that?

2499
02:00:14,840 --> 02:00:17,360
Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't know. That's actually a good question.

2500
02:00:17,480 --> 02:00:19,240
Speaker 2: But Mikey is definitely in the trenches, you know what

2501
02:00:19,280 --> 02:00:19,680
Speaker 2: I'm saying.

2502
02:00:19,800 --> 02:00:21,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, the other guy who got a tattoo on his

2503
02:00:22,160 --> 02:00:24,360
Speaker 1: body of MK just disappeared off the side of the earth.

2504
02:00:24,400 --> 02:00:27,400
Speaker 1: Does that mean he's incarcerated? Luke? Where is Damien the Donk?

2505
02:00:30,360 --> 02:00:33,640
Speaker 2: Probably in a van down by the river, right, No,

2506
02:00:33,760 --> 02:00:34,120
Speaker 2: he's like.

2507
02:00:34,080 --> 02:00:36,280
Speaker 1: A single dad. I'm hoping that guy's held it together

2508
02:00:36,320 --> 02:00:37,880
Speaker 1: and then maybe he just hates us in like a

2509
02:00:38,520 --> 02:00:40,720
Speaker 1: like a JP type way, Luke. That'd be nice, you know,

2510
02:00:40,800 --> 02:00:42,360
Speaker 1: because we can fix that. We can fix that.

2511
02:00:42,840 --> 02:00:45,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, do we want to fix that? I mean with JP? Yes,

2512
02:00:45,960 --> 02:00:48,400
Speaker 2: with Damien. I'm all right?

2513
02:00:48,440 --> 02:00:51,080
Speaker 1: Final question about our donks. This will end Friday Show.

2514
02:00:51,920 --> 02:00:54,839
Speaker 1: If we had a WWF in your house MK contest

2515
02:00:55,280 --> 02:00:59,560
Speaker 1: and the winning donk got to spend a weekend living

2516
02:00:59,560 --> 02:01:02,480
Speaker 1: in sleep in the guest room and being in the

2517
02:01:02,520 --> 02:01:05,520
Speaker 1: house for a weekend. But you get to pick the

2518
02:01:05,600 --> 02:01:08,760
Speaker 1: donk Luke, non fighter, non broadcaster. I'm talking about an

2519
02:01:08,840 --> 02:01:11,400
Speaker 1: MK donk, and you can't pick o'tell either. All right,

2520
02:01:11,520 --> 02:01:14,360
Speaker 1: give me a real MK donk. Who is spending the

2521
02:01:14,360 --> 02:01:15,360
Speaker 1: weekend in your house?

2522
02:01:15,920 --> 02:01:17,720
Speaker 2: Well the answer would be w camal Bell. But if

2523
02:01:17,720 --> 02:01:20,640
Speaker 2: we're talking about non famous people, non famous people, non

2524
02:01:20,680 --> 02:01:23,360
Speaker 2: famous people, oh boy, that is a good one.

2525
02:01:23,800 --> 02:01:25,760
Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah, give me the lead singer Portugal, the man.

2526
02:01:25,800 --> 02:01:27,520
Speaker 1: I'll have John hang out in my office all weekend.

2527
02:01:27,640 --> 02:01:29,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a big one. I would say, Like, you know, dude,

2528
02:01:29,400 --> 02:01:31,640
Speaker 2: average Joe Art has been kind of on fire recently.

2529
02:01:31,760 --> 02:01:36,920
Speaker 2: Obviously it has to be happy, right because you don't

2530
02:01:36,920 --> 02:01:38,320
Speaker 2: know if you're gonna wake up and your house is

2531
02:01:38,320 --> 02:01:40,320
Speaker 2: going to be on fire or he's gonna be drunk

2532
02:01:40,360 --> 02:01:41,120
Speaker 2: by six.

2533
02:01:41,360 --> 02:01:43,280
Speaker 1: Well, that's not reason to pick him, Luke, that's not

2534
02:01:43,320 --> 02:01:44,200
Speaker 1: a reason to pick them.

2535
02:01:44,360 --> 02:01:48,320
Speaker 2: Sort of like watch this despair of a human man

2536
02:01:48,600 --> 02:01:51,680
Speaker 2: just you know, collapsing on itself like a dying star

2537
02:01:51,840 --> 02:01:52,280
Speaker 2: or something.

2538
02:01:52,840 --> 02:01:54,960
Speaker 1: What about doc. Was it Doctor Mike, the guy from

2539
02:01:54,960 --> 02:01:56,840
Speaker 1: Arizona with the tattooed wife from the live show.

2540
02:01:57,120 --> 02:01:58,680
Speaker 2: They were very friendly, but they were very They were

2541
02:01:58,760 --> 02:02:01,560
Speaker 2: very friendly, normal people like I'm kind of looking for, Like,

2542
02:02:01,600 --> 02:02:03,240
Speaker 2: if I'm gonna have an MK doc, I want to see,

2543
02:02:03,400 --> 02:02:05,560
Speaker 2: you know, I want to see some weirdness. If I

2544
02:02:05,560 --> 02:02:06,240
Speaker 2: can be honest with.

2545
02:02:06,160 --> 02:02:08,040
Speaker 1: You, all right, I'd like to extend the conversation to

2546
02:02:08,280 --> 02:02:11,040
Speaker 1: MK fan couples and Luke. You'd have to be the

2547
02:02:11,120 --> 02:02:13,760
Speaker 1: meat and a donk sandwich in your own bed. Oh,

2548
02:02:13,840 --> 02:02:15,680
Speaker 1: this is this is great, really reality TV.

2549
02:02:16,120 --> 02:02:18,520
Speaker 2: Okay, we're good here.

2550
02:02:18,560 --> 02:02:21,000
Speaker 1: This is better than tough Luke, all right for everyone

2551
02:02:21,040 --> 02:02:23,520
Speaker 1: I mentioned, thank you. Thank you to the listeners out there.

2552
02:02:23,600 --> 02:02:26,480
Speaker 1: Enjoy this weekend. Guys. Take care of your mental health.

2553
02:02:26,520 --> 02:02:30,080
Speaker 1: Put it first. It's not selfish, right, take charge, take control.

2554
02:02:30,400 --> 02:02:33,840
Speaker 1: We love you, but you know, hose are a different breed.

2555
02:02:34,240 --> 02:03:00,520
Speaker 1: They're never loyal. We're out of here. Thank you,