WEBVTT - Fantasy Exit Interviews Part 7 - Texans, Rams, Ravens, and Lions

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<v Speaker 1>Wow, Hey everybody, It's Tuesday, February fourth, twenty twenty five.

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to the NFL Fantasy Football Podcast. We're big DIY

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<v Speaker 1>guys to be your rand MG Marcus grand Joy by

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<v Speaker 1>Michael F. Florio and Lakwan Jones. Are you guys? I mean

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<v Speaker 1>I say this. I basically put these things in there

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<v Speaker 1>because it applies to how I'm feeling in any given moment.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if either of you are actually DIY guys.

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<v Speaker 2>I love it, No, why not.

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<v Speaker 3>I'll do some stuff myself, but like once you get

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<v Speaker 3>past a certain point, I'm like, yeah, I can't do this.

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<v Speaker 1>I replaced the front door handle this morning. I'm like, hoday, yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I've done that a couple of times. Nice. Nice. I

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<v Speaker 2>replaced the belt on my washer at my old house, so.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, yeah see yeah see I'm like, yeah, maybe I

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<v Speaker 3>could change a door handle a little quons Like I

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<v Speaker 3>just take a a my dryer and putting back together,

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<v Speaker 3>like it's like it's nothing.

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<v Speaker 2>As a mechanic, I know labor and how much they upcharge,

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<v Speaker 2>and I'm like, I'm not paying this dude one hundred

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<v Speaker 2>and fifty bucks to come to my house or something

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<v Speaker 2>that I could just look up on YouTube and do myself.

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<v Speaker 2>It's all nuts and bolts at the end of the day.

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<v Speaker 2>That's one of the greatest things I learned as a

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<v Speaker 2>mechanic in my early years. It's like it's all nuhing

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<v Speaker 2>bolts at the end of the day. It's all ball bearings,

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<v Speaker 2>all ball bearings.

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<v Speaker 1>These days. Anyway, we're still doing our exit interviews. We've

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<v Speaker 1>got picks twenty five through twenty eight, and I mean

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<v Speaker 1>we're actually finish about this week. No surprise there if

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<v Speaker 1>you've been following along. But also a little bit of

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<v Speaker 1>trade news, not necessarily NFL trade news, but a trade

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<v Speaker 1>that certainly shook all of the sports world over the weekend.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll dive into that from an NFL perspective, but I

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<v Speaker 1>want to start with some news headlines because a lot

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<v Speaker 1>going on news wise, and I guess we have to

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<v Speaker 1>start with the moment of silence for the Kwan in

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<v Speaker 1>the Los Angeles Ran Cooper Cup announced on social media

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<v Speaker 1>on Monday that the Rams have informed him that they

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<v Speaker 1>are seeking to trade him immediately. I mean, this is

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<v Speaker 1>a guy who took the league by storm after getting

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<v Speaker 1>drafted in twenty seventeen out of Eastern Washington. He's a

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<v Speaker 1>Super Bowl MVP. He's a wide receiving triple crown winner. Lakwan,

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<v Speaker 1>how much in your feelings are you right now? And

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<v Speaker 1>if you can get out of your feelings? What does

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<v Speaker 1>this mean from an actual football perspective.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm in the fields last night. You know, I started

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<v Speaker 2>watching all his highlights from twenty seventeen all the way

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<v Speaker 2>up into this season, and like, I spent a good

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<v Speaker 2>amount of time just like embracing all the memories and

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<v Speaker 2>stuff that you know he's done for us and everything

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<v Speaker 2>that you know he put on the field, I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>his accomplishments. She went over him is just one of

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<v Speaker 2>the things, Like I remember the dark days of being

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<v Speaker 2>a Rams fan, Like it was one of those things

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<v Speaker 2>that like you're living week to week on each win,

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<v Speaker 2>like you're winning six to seven, eight and eight games,

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<v Speaker 2>and like you're excited for that. And then when you

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<v Speaker 2>get a guy like Cooper Cup in his first year

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<v Speaker 2>hit the ground running. He's mcvay's guy. You remember McVeigh

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<v Speaker 2>and Lesnie's excitement when they got him. And I was

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<v Speaker 2>actually at that draft in Philly when we selected him,

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<v Speaker 2>because you know, I had to go on day two

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<v Speaker 2>because we didn't have first round picks. But it's like

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<v Speaker 2>one of those things like you have your favorite running back,

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<v Speaker 2>Stephen Jackson announcing his name and it's like Cooper Cup

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<v Speaker 2>and you're like, who is this guy? But all those

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<v Speaker 2>years and everything he's done for the Rams and for me,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, personally, just not being able to say Coop

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<v Speaker 2>anymore is gonna feel so weird. Man, It's gonna feel nasty.

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<v Speaker 2>It hasn't hit me yet though, But you got poo,

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<v Speaker 2>you just signed Mari Cooper. No no, no.

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<v Speaker 1>I remember, you know, that year and watching his tape

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<v Speaker 1>out of Eastern Washington and really seeing him pop, right,

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<v Speaker 1>And he had a couple of games against some power fights.

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<v Speaker 1>I think they played Washington State, I believe, well his

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<v Speaker 1>final year there, and he went off in that game,

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<v Speaker 1>and I just remember like, this guy looks really really good,

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<v Speaker 1>sort of trying to take it with a grain of

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<v Speaker 1>salt because he was playing at Eastern Washington and you're

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<v Speaker 1>sort of wondering about the level of competition. I thought

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<v Speaker 1>he could be successful, but I really thought he was,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, a secondary receiver, right. I thought he would

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<v Speaker 1>be you know, you'd have a good career as kind

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<v Speaker 1>of a number two three receiver depending on the situation

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<v Speaker 1>wherever he went. Never thought he would do what he

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<v Speaker 1>has done so far in his career. The other part

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<v Speaker 1>that's wild is you go back a Cooper Cup only

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<v Speaker 1>has two one thousand yard seasons. Crim that's crazy, right.

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<v Speaker 3>I think Cooper Cup and Pooka Nakula are similar in

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<v Speaker 3>the sense of you were not alone in feeling that Marcus.

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<v Speaker 3>Like a lot of people liked Cooper Cup, a lot

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<v Speaker 3>of people liked Pooka Nakula. But I do think as

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<v Speaker 3>good as those two guys are, h Efford and Sean

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<v Speaker 3>McVay also helped highly elevate their wide receivers, So like

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<v Speaker 3>they were, it was just one of those situations that

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<v Speaker 3>happens in sports where like it was just like the

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<v Speaker 3>perfect fit of everything coming together at the same time.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I will say that, like for McVeigh to come

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<v Speaker 2>in and year one and like he turned the program

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<v Speaker 2>around and he drafted Cuff and he was like, I

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<v Speaker 2>got my guy, and like you bringing in a guy

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<v Speaker 2>like Stafford, obviously that's going to elevate it to where

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<v Speaker 2>it went now. So it's like we just were wanting

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<v Speaker 2>the right pieces and when they all came together. We

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<v Speaker 2>got eight amazing seasons out of him, and like, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>just thankful that he was on my team. I was

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<v Speaker 2>just thankful that he brung back the passion and spirit

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<v Speaker 2>to be a ramp. Like you guys don't understand how

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<v Speaker 2>dark it was, like me arguing, eyes read to my face. Man,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm a Bills fan, but it's different when all your

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<v Speaker 2>friends are Eagles and Cowboys fans and they're somewhat good

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<v Speaker 2>and relevant, And like I'm sitting here with four wins,

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<v Speaker 2>like ready to fight my friends, Like, no, we beat

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<v Speaker 2>pay we beat Payton Manning and the Broncos last week.

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<v Speaker 2>Like I know you guys remember when we did that

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<v Speaker 2>and like they went to the Super Bowl loss. But

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<v Speaker 2>I just feel like you just hold on to every

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<v Speaker 2>win that we had and then to be on this

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<v Speaker 2>winning streak, it kind of feels like it's not over.

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<v Speaker 2>But like I'm still, like I would say optimistic.

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<v Speaker 3>I know, from a football standpoint, it would be bad

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<v Speaker 3>business to just say, oh, we're gonna let Cooper Cup

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<v Speaker 3>retire here, but like, if I've learned one thing over

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<v Speaker 3>these years of working in an NFL network, any contract

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<v Speaker 3>in the NFL can.

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<v Speaker 2>Be restructured, reworked at all of that, like we've seen it. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 3>Maybe this is the fan in me and not like

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<v Speaker 3>the analysts, because the analyst knows that, like, yeah, the

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<v Speaker 3>right move is to trade him for what you could

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<v Speaker 3>get and move on and stuff. But like, I don't know,

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<v Speaker 3>there's something to seeing a franchise guy play only with

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<v Speaker 3>one team and retire with that franchise. And there's certain

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<v Speaker 3>players that I think, like Mike Evans should never play

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<v Speaker 3>anywhere about the Bucks Cooper Cup feels like that kind

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<v Speaker 3>of guy for me, for the Rams, like he should

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<v Speaker 3>retire as a Super Bowl MVP, everything that he's meant

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<v Speaker 3>to the team.

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<v Speaker 2>I know it's an outdated and it's.

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<v Speaker 3>More for other sports, like it's more of a baseball

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<v Speaker 3>thing nowadays, but like I don't know, to me, there's

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<v Speaker 3>something about a guy saying, like I am, I've only

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<v Speaker 3>played for this team and I'm gonna be a legend

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<v Speaker 3>for this team forever.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you know, it's just I don't even know if

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<v Speaker 1>it's a baseball thing anymore. I don't know that it's

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<v Speaker 1>a thing in professional sports. For it, it's really really

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<v Speaker 1>rare when that happened. Tom Brady played for multiple teams. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, even Tom Brady played for a second team. Like,

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<v Speaker 1>it's just it's a thing that's it's wonderful when it happens.

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<v Speaker 1>And I look, I say this to somebody who would

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<v Speaker 1>love to see Steph Curry finish his career with the Warriors,

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<v Speaker 1>it's increasingly unlikely that that may happen.

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<v Speaker 2>She's so frustrating because like he is the Warriors, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>like like like, for another example for soccer, Messi, I

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<v Speaker 2>thought he was gonna die in Barcelona. I thought that

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<v Speaker 2>was it, but then he's on PSG and then here

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<v Speaker 2>we are, now fast forward to MLS. He's he's on

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<v Speaker 2>a Miami.

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<v Speaker 3>I think it's a little different if the player is

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<v Speaker 3>like I want to go make money elsewhere or something

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<v Speaker 3>like that.

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<v Speaker 2>No, like MESSI lived and breathed like this is like

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<v Speaker 2>Derek Jeter of soccer, Like you thought he was gonna

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<v Speaker 2>stay in Barcelona, but then you see him in different

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<v Speaker 2>Like I have a PSG messy jersey that's number thirty.

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<v Speaker 2>It looks disgusting. I don't wear it often because it's

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<v Speaker 2>like my son's and messi jersey looks better with his

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<v Speaker 2>Barcelona Argentina. Like, I don't know, it just feels weird

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<v Speaker 2>and ugly to look at. But Floria, I get what

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<v Speaker 2>you're saying.

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<v Speaker 3>Man, Dude, Cooper cupping the Patriots jersey next year is

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<v Speaker 3>gonna be disgusting.

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<v Speaker 1>Also, the flaw in your argument there, Lakwan, is that

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<v Speaker 1>MESSI unlike Jeters? Not overrated?

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, yes, overrated Jeters.

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<v Speaker 1>Moving on, Miles Garrett apparently is not gonna finish his

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<v Speaker 1>career with the Cleveland.

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<v Speaker 2>Browns and that wasn't the plan.

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<v Speaker 1>He has requested a trade after eight seasons with the Browns,

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<v Speaker 1>sounding citing a desire to win. This was sort of

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<v Speaker 1>I mean coming for a while, Flory, I mean we'd

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<v Speaker 1>heard the rumblings that Miles Garrett was starting to get

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<v Speaker 1>frustrated with the organization and maybe wanted to get out.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm filibustering here as you pull the Bill's helmet

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<v Speaker 1>off the shelve.

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<v Speaker 2>Here Miles Garrett's next team, Baby.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna say, like, this is your your chance to

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<v Speaker 1>make a pitch for why Miles Garrett should be a

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<v Speaker 1>Buffalo Bill.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh.

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<v Speaker 3>He said his number one reason is he has a

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<v Speaker 3>desire to win. If I know anything about great players,

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<v Speaker 3>it's that they don't want to just go sign with

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<v Speaker 3>the Chiefs and win, so come to the team that's

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<v Speaker 3>been closest but cannot get over the home And the

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<v Speaker 3>biggest reason is, like and I've said him many times,

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<v Speaker 3>the Bill's playoffs, especially that D line tends to crumble

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<v Speaker 3>against the Chiefs in the playoffs. You put Miles Garrett

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<v Speaker 3>or Max Crosby. I'm cool with either one of those

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<v Speaker 3>two guys. You put them on that Bills D line.

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<v Speaker 3>We're talking about the Bills beat in the super Bowl

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<v Speaker 3>right now. I believe Josh Allen needs is Chris Jones,

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<v Speaker 3>Stafford had Aaron Donald.

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<v Speaker 2>There's always that.

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<v Speaker 3>One elite player on both sides of the ball. The

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<v Speaker 3>Bills haven't had that. This is their chance. All I

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<v Speaker 3>want this offseason is for one of those two defensive

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<v Speaker 3>players to put on the white Buffalo helmet, not the

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<v Speaker 3>red one that I have.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, look, this is obviously a game changer, certainly,

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<v Speaker 1>and I know we don't talk a ton about individual

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<v Speaker 1>defensive players here or defense usually just because it's a

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<v Speaker 1>fantasy football show and it's more offensive centric. This is

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<v Speaker 1>a game changer. I mean, Miles Garrett I always say

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<v Speaker 1>he's like a real life Avenger when you watch him play.

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<v Speaker 2>He was made in a lab, not traditionally how people

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<v Speaker 2>were made.

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<v Speaker 1>Really was right. And wherever he goes, he is immediately

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<v Speaker 1>going to be an impact player. And how did he

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<v Speaker 1>immediately take I mean we're talking fantasy right. It makes

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<v Speaker 1>that a defense that you suddenly have a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>fantasy interest in.

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<v Speaker 2>Absolutely, and like I could definitely see him making a

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<v Speaker 2>Day one impact and like I tweeted yesterday, like I

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<v Speaker 2>think you should go to the commanders, gave with dan Quinn,

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<v Speaker 2>Give with that defense. They need some more spar And

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<v Speaker 2>then I really think Super Bowl sixty it's a lot

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<v Speaker 2>for the Commanders because, like Floria will explain, you have

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<v Speaker 2>at an elite on one side of the ball. You

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<v Speaker 2>need another. And there's not that guy over there on

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<v Speaker 2>the commander's defense that's popping up and dominating week after week.

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<v Speaker 2>You put Miles Garrett on that defense, man, boy, we're

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<v Speaker 2>gonna be looking at a whole different commander's team going

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<v Speaker 2>into next season.

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<v Speaker 1>I make the NFC East really really interesting if that

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<v Speaker 1>were to happen. But definitely some things will keep be

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<v Speaker 1>an eye on.

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<v Speaker 3>Just not Philly please, it's not.

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<v Speaker 1>The line is already stuck. I mean, obviously they find

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<v Speaker 1>room for him without a doubt, but their defensive line

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<v Speaker 1>is already loaded in Philadelphia for sure. But anyway, Cooper,

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<v Speaker 1>Cup Miles, Garrett, we will keep an eye on them

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<v Speaker 1>and whatever their potential landing spots are going to be

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<v Speaker 1>when we know more. Speaking of landing spots, and I

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<v Speaker 1>guess speaking of the Eagles, former Eagles head coach Chip

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<v Speaker 1>Kelly is now in Las Vegas. He's the offensive coordinator

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<v Speaker 1>for the Las Vegas Raiders. The AARP West continuing to

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<v Speaker 1>live up to its name. Pete Carroll brings in a

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<v Speaker 1>former Pac twelve rival. When the Pete was at USC,

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<v Speaker 1>Chip was at Oregon. Chip went to the forty nine ers,

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<v Speaker 1>where he took over for Jim Harbaugh, who's now in

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<v Speaker 1>Los Angle. It's a whole wicked web of things going

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<v Speaker 1>on to all these coaches. Time is a flat circle

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<v Speaker 1>and all that sort of stuff. There you go, obviously,

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<v Speaker 1>Florida last year, Zaveer White was a huge, huge disappointment

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<v Speaker 1>for everybody. Does this mean they maybe run it back

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<v Speaker 1>with Zamir White?

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<v Speaker 4>Does this do.

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<v Speaker 1>Anything for you? With Chip Kelly there in Vegas.

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<v Speaker 3>I think it makes you interested in the running game

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<v Speaker 3>there because four years Chip Kelly's been in the NFL.

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<v Speaker 3>I got to go look at his college numbers. But

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<v Speaker 3>in the years he's been in the NFL, he has

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<v Speaker 3>finished top seven in rushing attempts in three of the

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<v Speaker 3>four years and top eleven every year he's The passing numbers, though,

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<v Speaker 3>are not great and they're not what you want to see.

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<v Speaker 3>So I think that's kind of and that's Pete Carroll's

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<v Speaker 3>kind of mo as well, right Like he The biggest

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<v Speaker 3>knock we had with Pete Carroll and Russell Wilson was like.

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<v Speaker 2>Let Ross cook, Like, let him throw the ball more.

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<v Speaker 2>You're not letting him do that.

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<v Speaker 3>I expect a lot of running for the Raiders this season.

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<v Speaker 3>I just don't think the running back of who the

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<v Speaker 3>future running back is going to be is on their roster.

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<v Speaker 2>Yet.

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<v Speaker 3>I also don't believe the quarterback is because one player.

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<v Speaker 3>And I'll say it here that I'm going to pound

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<v Speaker 3>the table for the Raiders to bring in. Look, you

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<v Speaker 3>could draft someone if you want as well, but let's

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<v Speaker 3>get Justin Fields in the black and silver and see

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<v Speaker 3>what he could do with Chip Kelly in this offense

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<v Speaker 3>that obviously, Chip Kelly has had a running quarterback for

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<v Speaker 3>most of his tenure in the NFL, So to me,

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<v Speaker 3>that just seems like a perfect fit. And you could

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<v Speaker 3>put another quarterback there if you want to make it

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<v Speaker 3>a battle or something like that. But if you have

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<v Speaker 3>fields and a new running back there, I could get

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<v Speaker 3>excited for the running system in Vegas.

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<v Speaker 1>You talk about Chip Kelly in his college career, and

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<v Speaker 1>he really is a guy who has coached up great talent.

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<v Speaker 1>And when he was at Oregon he had a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of great talent and they were very high powered offense

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<v Speaker 1>there with the Ducks, Ucla not so much. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>he came in, they scored a little bit early his

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<v Speaker 1>last couple of years there, Offensively, they were not a

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<v Speaker 1>very good group. Then he goes to Ohio State last year.

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<v Speaker 1>Obviously they have a ton of talent, they score a

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<v Speaker 1>ton of points, they win a national championship. Now he's

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<v Speaker 1>back in the NFL with a roster that, aside from

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<v Speaker 1>Brock Bauers, doesn't have a ton of offensive talent. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sure he could do some things. With Jacobi Myers,

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<v Speaker 1>they definitely need a quarterback. As you mentioned, justin fields,

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<v Speaker 1>potentially a stop gap option for them. So a guy

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<v Speaker 1>who's very creative offensively. I think they sort of caught

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<v Speaker 1>up to him in the NFL because you know, his

0:14:42.000 --> 0:14:45.320
<v Speaker 1>Eagles offense has kind of started hot and then slowed

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<v Speaker 1>down as people kind of figured out what he was

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<v Speaker 1>doing a little bit. So very curious how this works

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<v Speaker 1>with Pete Carroll. They're in Las Vegas, you know it's

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<v Speaker 1>gonna be interesting there to watch. A couple of other

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<v Speaker 1>offensive coordinator related items. The Ravens signed Todd Monk him

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<v Speaker 1>to a contract extension, no surprise considering how well things

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<v Speaker 1>went for the Baltimore offense this year. Texans hiring Rams

0:15:08.800 --> 0:15:11.680
<v Speaker 1>assistant Nick Keeley as an offensive coordinator. I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>if you have any insights into that. LaQuan Oh, he's

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<v Speaker 1>from the McVeigh tree. I mean, he's what them will

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<v Speaker 1>bellot at for the two seasons he's seen success. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>obviously when we look at the coordinators or assistant coordinators

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<v Speaker 1>that's with McVeigh in the building, they find success. Zach Taylor,

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<v Speaker 1>Kevin O'Connell. I mean, look, Liam Coleman's now a head

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<v Speaker 1>coach of the Jaguars, Like you look at this as

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<v Speaker 1>an opportunity that he can make his name and go

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<v Speaker 1>out there and maybe two three years we see him

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<v Speaker 1>as a head coach who knows. But like when you're

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<v Speaker 1>under McVeigh tree, you're just oozing this success. So I'm like, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm all bored. Is Zach Taylor really successful?

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<v Speaker 4>Uh?

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<v Speaker 2>I would say maintaining the pieces then, I.

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<v Speaker 1>Mean, I know he got to the super Bowl, He's

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<v Speaker 1>been a conference championship game. Last two years have not

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<v Speaker 1>been great. First two years were not particularly great.

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<v Speaker 2>That story he is. He is a competitive.

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<v Speaker 1>Two out of six man, two years out of six.

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<v Speaker 2>I know.

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<v Speaker 3>I it called a hater for this, but Taylor and

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<v Speaker 3>Burrow are the two biggest winners of lou Ana Ronald's

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<v Speaker 3>defense being the only one that ever figured out how

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<v Speaker 3>to slow down Patrick Mahomes in the playoffs.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, you know got out to them.

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<v Speaker 1>Zach Taylor stood next to Sean McVay for twenty minutes

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<v Speaker 1>and got himself ahead. Coaching job. I tried to stand

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<v Speaker 1>next to Sean McVay once too. It didn't work out.

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<v Speaker 2>I just want to shake his hand.

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<v Speaker 3>I forget what offseason it was, but it was one

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<v Speaker 3>where like if you breathe the same era as McVeigh,

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<v Speaker 3>you you got a head coaching gig.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean it's wild.

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<v Speaker 2>It was why Thomas Brown he should be on his

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<v Speaker 2>way to find success and mean, it didn't work out

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<v Speaker 2>in Chicago, but he's the He's exactly the person that

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<v Speaker 2>Broun cam Akers back into the fold on the back

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<v Speaker 2>end of the season when he became more relevant, you

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<v Speaker 2>know what I mean. And I think that's what kind

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<v Speaker 2>of led to the transition of him following Kevin O'Connell

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<v Speaker 2>to still be employed. So it's like, you shout out

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<v Speaker 2>to Thomas Brown for doing that.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so again, Nick Kayleey part of that that coaching tree.

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<v Speaker 1>He'sc now in Houston after Bobby Slowick, who was the

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<v Speaker 1>new hotness for a couple of years, finds himself out

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<v Speaker 1>of a job.

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<v Speaker 2>Weird. Yeah, how quick he turned into the ugliest girl

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<v Speaker 2>at the prom.

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<v Speaker 1>Life comes at you fast, which actually is a perfect

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<v Speaker 1>segue to get back to our exit interviews. Picks twenty

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<v Speaker 1>five through twenty eight, and number twenty five is the

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<v Speaker 1>Houston Texans who went ten and seven this past year.

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<v Speaker 2>Went right.

0:17:25.240 --> 0:17:28.080
<v Speaker 1>Joe Mixon, who looked like he was gonna just be

0:17:28.280 --> 0:17:31.080
<v Speaker 1>straight up cut by the Bengals. He ends u getting

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<v Speaker 1>shipped over to Houston. I turned out to have a

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<v Speaker 1>pretty good season, over one thousand rushing yards, over three

0:17:35.720 --> 0:17:38.880
<v Speaker 1>hundred receiving yards. He was the RB thirteen. Did miss

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<v Speaker 1>some time with injury, but when he was on the field,

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<v Speaker 1>was very, very good for Houston this year. Nico Collins,

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<v Speaker 1>who really has ascended I think to being one of

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<v Speaker 1>the top wide receivers both in the NFL and in fantasy.

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<v Speaker 1>Only played twelve games, but sixty eight catches, thousand and

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<v Speaker 1>six yards, seven receiving touchdowns, and two hundred and ten

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<v Speaker 1>fantasy points. He was a wide receiver at twenty six.

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<v Speaker 1>Lakwan is Nico Collins an elite fantasy receiver. Yet I

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<v Speaker 1>wouldn't say elite because when we talk about the elites,

0:18:09.280 --> 0:18:11.879
<v Speaker 1>we're talking Jamar Chase, We're talking Justin Jefferson. You know,

0:18:12.160 --> 0:18:14.879
<v Speaker 1>guys would like Pokin Nako. I think he's right there.

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<v Speaker 2>It's just that A gotta stay healthy. B They need

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<v Speaker 2>to build that old line to protect Straute to even

0:18:19.680 --> 0:18:21.359
<v Speaker 2>be able to get time to get him the ball.

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<v Speaker 2>So it's like he can he's looking up at that

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<v Speaker 2>ceiling where he could be in the elite. But the

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<v Speaker 2>talent's there, the route running, what he brings outside of

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<v Speaker 2>the perimer. He brings everything to the table that you

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<v Speaker 2>want in a prototype of a wide receiver one. It's

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<v Speaker 2>just that some things around him are just out of

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<v Speaker 2>his control to make him as send to the elite status.

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<v Speaker 1>Floyd, where are you drafting him? I mean, are we

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<v Speaker 1>gonna have to spend what early second, mid second on

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<v Speaker 1>Nico Collins next year?

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<v Speaker 3>I'm thinking first to be honest, but I am someone

0:18:52.400 --> 0:18:54.879
<v Speaker 3>who likes wide receivers in the first round. But I,

0:18:55.200 --> 0:18:59.920
<v Speaker 3>like Lakwan said, the elite of the elite, I Jamar Chase, Justin, Jefferson,

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<v Speaker 3>Ceedee lamb Amanron Saint Brown, and we have Putpuka and

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<v Speaker 3>I think the only other wide receiver I'd put over

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<v Speaker 3>him after that is uh is aj Brown.

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<v Speaker 2>That's sixth right there.

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<v Speaker 3>Like, I think it'll be like Nico, maybe Malik Neighbors,

0:19:14.920 --> 0:19:17.439
<v Speaker 3>depending on what the Giants do at quarterback, maybe Brian

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<v Speaker 3>Thomas Junior.

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<v Speaker 2>That'll be like the late first, early second round wide receivers.

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<v Speaker 2>And I think it'll be a preference thing.

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<v Speaker 3>Like there'll be some drafts where if I'm in that room,

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<v Speaker 3>I'll take Nico Collins, say like tenth overall. But if

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<v Speaker 3>someone likes one of those other wide receivers a little

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<v Speaker 3>bit more and then Nico goes like second or third

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<v Speaker 3>pick in the second round, I think he'll be in

0:19:37.800 --> 0:19:41.320
<v Speaker 3>that range, like late first, early second. But I think

0:19:41.400 --> 0:19:44.720
<v Speaker 3>at this time next year we are talking about Nico

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<v Speaker 3>Collins being an absolutely elite fantasy wide receiver.

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<v Speaker 1>You're just you know, obviously Tank Dell in that injury

0:19:52.119 --> 0:19:56.040
<v Speaker 1>are significant. We'll see what happens with Stefan Diggs this offseason,

0:19:56.119 --> 0:19:58.400
<v Speaker 1>which obviously gets us the sort of what went sideways here?

0:19:58.440 --> 0:20:02.000
<v Speaker 1>Tank Dell suffering just a brutal injury at the mid

0:20:02.000 --> 0:20:04.920
<v Speaker 1>point of the season. He finishes this wide receiver forty nine.

0:20:04.960 --> 0:20:07.520
<v Speaker 1>Stefan Diggs hurt earlier in the season, He's wide receiver

0:20:07.600 --> 0:20:11.920
<v Speaker 1>fifty nine. Dalton Schultz underachieved tight end twenty. But maybe

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<v Speaker 1>the biggest disappointment in this Houston offense was CJ. Stroud

0:20:17.000 --> 0:20:22.840
<v Speaker 1>thirty seven hundred passing yards, twenty touchdowns, twelve interceptions QB nineteen.

0:20:23.800 --> 0:20:28.240
<v Speaker 1>And we went into the last season not sure which

0:20:28.359 --> 0:20:31.359
<v Speaker 1>Texans receiver we wanted to draft, but all of us

0:20:31.359 --> 0:20:34.359
<v Speaker 1>sort of feeling like, well, hey, if you just draft CJ. Shroud,

0:20:34.440 --> 0:20:36.480
<v Speaker 1>you get all of this baked in, right, you get

0:20:36.480 --> 0:20:41.040
<v Speaker 1>all the production baked into one that didn't really work out.

0:20:41.320 --> 0:20:47.080
<v Speaker 1>I mean Florio which CJ. Stroud, I mean, is the

0:20:47.080 --> 0:20:49.520
<v Speaker 1>guy that we saw his rookie years. He's still there.

0:20:49.720 --> 0:20:52.320
<v Speaker 1>Is it just a matter of getting that protection in

0:20:52.359 --> 0:20:55.119
<v Speaker 1>front of him, or maybe did we crown him a

0:20:55.119 --> 0:20:55.960
<v Speaker 1>little bit too early.

0:20:57.000 --> 0:21:00.439
<v Speaker 3>I think everything broke right for him as a rookie

0:21:01.160 --> 0:21:05.040
<v Speaker 3>efficiency wise, especially, and we crowned him a little too early.

0:21:05.160 --> 0:21:07.280
<v Speaker 3>I also don't think he's this guy we saw in

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<v Speaker 3>year two. I think the truth is somewhere in the middle.

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<v Speaker 3>But to your play, everyone is gonna say all the

0:21:14.280 --> 0:21:16.520
<v Speaker 3>Texans a line was was really bad, and it was.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not saying it wasn't. But like when you compare CJ.

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<v Speaker 3>Stroud's numbers under pressure this past year to his rookie year,

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<v Speaker 3>it's not all that different.

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<v Speaker 2>The stats are pretty similar.

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<v Speaker 3>Where to me, the biggest falloff was was on the

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<v Speaker 3>deep ball.

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<v Speaker 2>Like CJ.

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<v Speaker 3>Stroud went from his rookie year being i would say

0:21:36.640 --> 0:21:39.960
<v Speaker 3>the best deep ball thrower in the NFL to one

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<v Speaker 3>of the worst like As a rookie, his passer rating

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<v Speaker 3>on deep balls was one hundred and forty two point eight.

0:21:46.000 --> 0:21:49.159
<v Speaker 3>As a sophomore it was fifty two point nine. His

0:21:49.280 --> 0:21:53.600
<v Speaker 3>completion percentage was almost cut in half. The yards per

0:21:53.680 --> 0:21:57.560
<v Speaker 3>tentpt was down everything, like the yards despite having more attempts.

0:21:57.680 --> 0:22:00.000
<v Speaker 3>The yards were down almost four hundred yards to touch

0:22:00.000 --> 0:22:02.520
<v Speaker 3>stounds were cutting half. He threw way more inner city

0:22:02.840 --> 0:22:05.800
<v Speaker 3>zero interceptions on deep balls as a rookie six last

0:22:05.880 --> 0:22:10.760
<v Speaker 3>year as a sophomore, so I think I do think

0:22:10.800 --> 0:22:12.760
<v Speaker 3>he could get closer to that rookie year guy. The

0:22:12.800 --> 0:22:15.159
<v Speaker 3>deep ball is obviously going to be a factor, but

0:22:15.680 --> 0:22:17.760
<v Speaker 3>I do think it was one of those situations where,

0:22:17.800 --> 0:22:20.800
<v Speaker 3>like efficiency, just he caught everyone off guard that that

0:22:20.880 --> 0:22:23.240
<v Speaker 3>deep ball was working for him as a rookie. He

0:22:23.280 --> 0:22:26.400
<v Speaker 3>could get better as a junior, but I'm not sure

0:22:26.400 --> 0:22:28.400
<v Speaker 3>he's ever gonna be We're gonna be saying like he's

0:22:28.400 --> 0:22:30.560
<v Speaker 3>the best deep all thrower in the NFL like we

0:22:30.560 --> 0:22:31.800
<v Speaker 3>were after his rookie year.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, it is wild how the gap between he

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<v Speaker 1>and Bryce Young closed quite a bit by the end

0:22:38.160 --> 0:22:40.679
<v Speaker 1>of the year, right, I mean, wow, at the end

0:22:40.720 --> 0:22:43.359
<v Speaker 1>of year one, it was well CJ. Shroud obviously was

0:22:43.359 --> 0:22:46.440
<v Speaker 1>was the pick, right. CJ. Shroud was the pick. Texans

0:22:46.440 --> 0:22:48.280
<v Speaker 1>got this one right, and then by the end of

0:22:48.320 --> 0:22:51.360
<v Speaker 1>the year two, it's like, alright, yeah, maybe let's let's

0:22:51.400 --> 0:22:54.040
<v Speaker 1>let's open this case again. Let's let's let's evaluate a

0:22:54.040 --> 0:22:56.840
<v Speaker 1>little bit further. So the one thing we all know,

0:22:57.400 --> 0:22:59.480
<v Speaker 1>the draft price on CJ. Stroud is going to be

0:22:59.480 --> 0:23:02.560
<v Speaker 1>a lot more manageable this year than it was last year.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, is he a QB one?

0:23:04.880 --> 0:23:05.280
<v Speaker 4>You think?

0:23:05.640 --> 0:23:08.600
<v Speaker 2>No? No, no, no, sir.

0:23:08.880 --> 0:23:10.800
<v Speaker 1>He could eventually work his way back to that, but

0:23:10.840 --> 0:23:12.560
<v Speaker 1>he's definitely not drafted as a QB one.

0:23:13.080 --> 0:23:15.359
<v Speaker 2>Him and Brace Young are on the same eye level

0:23:15.400 --> 0:23:17.199
<v Speaker 2>right now. For me when it comes to that, is

0:23:17.240 --> 0:23:19.280
<v Speaker 2>that a short joke? I was gonna say, there's a

0:23:19.320 --> 0:23:26.520
<v Speaker 2>pum there. I can make sure jokes because but uh, yeah,

0:23:27.000 --> 0:23:28.960
<v Speaker 2>I can't. I can't see myself take him as my

0:23:29.000 --> 0:23:31.200
<v Speaker 2>QB one and feel confident about that. Yeah, no, I'm

0:23:31.200 --> 0:23:32.080
<v Speaker 2>with you. Uh.

0:23:32.119 --> 0:23:34.159
<v Speaker 1>Let's move on to pick number twenty six, which belongs

0:23:34.200 --> 0:23:38.000
<v Speaker 1>to the Los Angeles Rams. Kyron Williams had himself a

0:23:38.080 --> 0:23:42.760
<v Speaker 1>year nearly thirteen hundred rushing yards fourteen rushing touchdowns. He

0:23:42.880 --> 0:23:46.399
<v Speaker 1>was the RB seven. Pukakua continues to be great and

0:23:46.440 --> 0:23:48.320
<v Speaker 1>in his first two years in the league, he only

0:23:48.359 --> 0:23:51.919
<v Speaker 1>played eleven games, but seventy nine catches nine hundred and

0:23:52.040 --> 0:23:56.679
<v Speaker 1>ninety yards was the wide receiver twenty one. So I

0:23:56.680 --> 0:23:59.159
<v Speaker 1>didn't ask you this. We talked about the the you know,

0:23:59.200 --> 0:24:03.040
<v Speaker 1>Cooper Cup fread issue, Lakwan, but you had said this before.

0:24:04.080 --> 0:24:07.520
<v Speaker 1>If Cooper Cup wasn't there, Pooka's your one dot oh one.

0:24:08.000 --> 0:24:10.440
<v Speaker 1>Are you prepared to make Pooka your one dot one

0:24:10.520 --> 0:24:10.920
<v Speaker 1>right now?

0:24:11.800 --> 0:24:14.000
<v Speaker 2>Yes, one hundred percent. I don't think they could bring

0:24:14.040 --> 0:24:16.760
<v Speaker 2>anybody in that can match Cooper Cup's pass production. So

0:24:16.840 --> 0:24:19.639
<v Speaker 2>it's like we're gonna be seeing a heavy, bunneled then

0:24:19.760 --> 0:24:22.320
<v Speaker 2>hyper focused Pookin Nakoula as long as he stays healthy.

0:24:22.400 --> 0:24:24.640
<v Speaker 2>There is risk in that at the one O one,

0:24:24.720 --> 0:24:27.359
<v Speaker 2>but there's risk with every single player with injury. So

0:24:27.400 --> 0:24:29.359
<v Speaker 2>therefore I'm just taking that out of the bag, like

0:24:29.680 --> 0:24:32.560
<v Speaker 2>I'm ready to just hit submit, enter, whatever the case

0:24:32.600 --> 0:24:35.200
<v Speaker 2>may be. On whatever draft platform we got, it's gonna

0:24:35.200 --> 0:24:37.960
<v Speaker 2>be Pooka Nakoua because honestly, the talent's there. Air Pooka

0:24:38.000 --> 0:24:39.679
<v Speaker 2>is what they call on him. So being that he

0:24:39.840 --> 0:24:42.480
<v Speaker 2>has the heart to be that alpha wide receiver one

0:24:42.760 --> 0:24:45.720
<v Speaker 2>and handle that workload while pushing down a Cooper cup

0:24:45.960 --> 0:24:48.960
<v Speaker 2>declining production. There's nothing else that I need to sell

0:24:48.960 --> 0:24:51.320
<v Speaker 2>anybody onto. Why I believe that he could be one

0:24:51.359 --> 0:24:51.880
<v Speaker 2>on one.

0:24:52.760 --> 0:24:55.000
<v Speaker 1>Is this contingent on Matthew Stafford coming back.

0:24:55.680 --> 0:24:58.280
<v Speaker 2>Matthew Stafford is coming back. I feel very confident about

0:24:58.280 --> 0:25:00.280
<v Speaker 2>that because there's no answer as a backup in the

0:25:00.359 --> 0:25:02.760
<v Speaker 2>draft this year or in free agency unless we get

0:25:02.840 --> 0:25:05.920
<v Speaker 2>Kirk Cousins on some type of you know, restructure deal

0:25:05.960 --> 0:25:07.879
<v Speaker 2>and he comes in and takes over the keys. But

0:25:07.960 --> 0:25:10.760
<v Speaker 2>that's still same, same but different, but still the same.

0:25:10.800 --> 0:25:15.359
<v Speaker 1>To me, it feels like kirk Cousins maybe not a doubt,

0:25:15.400 --> 0:25:18.040
<v Speaker 1>Maybe it isn't slight down grade. I mean just from

0:25:18.040 --> 0:25:19.239
<v Speaker 1>where Stafford is.

0:25:19.280 --> 0:25:22.280
<v Speaker 2>Like, to me, that's a comfort move, like the previous

0:25:22.359 --> 0:25:24.880
<v Speaker 2>history of McVeigh. Okay, he could be a McVeigh guy,

0:25:24.920 --> 0:25:26.960
<v Speaker 2>but then is he going to get his past a hump?

0:25:27.040 --> 0:25:28.440
<v Speaker 2>Is he as good as Matthew Stafford?

0:25:28.520 --> 0:25:28.600
<v Speaker 1>No?

0:25:28.840 --> 0:25:30.879
<v Speaker 2>But I just feel as though that's a slight, a

0:25:30.960 --> 0:25:33.119
<v Speaker 2>slight downgrade. You know, if we go from Stafford to

0:25:33.200 --> 0:25:33.720
<v Speaker 2>kirk Cousins, I.

0:25:33.720 --> 0:25:35.879
<v Speaker 1>Wouldn't do that no, Heaven's no.

0:25:36.000 --> 0:25:38.520
<v Speaker 2>Did you guys watch Kirk Cousins play football this year?

0:25:40.080 --> 0:25:43.639
<v Speaker 2>Like I actually, I actually watched Kirk Cousins interview this

0:25:43.680 --> 0:25:46.320
<v Speaker 2>morning and Good Morning Football. Apparently he had an ankle injury,

0:25:46.359 --> 0:25:49.639
<v Speaker 2>an elbow injury and a shoulder injury and trying to

0:25:49.680 --> 0:25:50.880
<v Speaker 2>keep the Achilles intact.

0:25:50.960 --> 0:25:54.360
<v Speaker 3>So Aaron Rodgers is playing the same card, like, not

0:25:54.400 --> 0:25:56.920
<v Speaker 3>only was I coming back from Achilles at an advanced

0:25:56.960 --> 0:25:59.159
<v Speaker 3>age I had, I was in a body cast and

0:25:59.240 --> 0:26:02.200
<v Speaker 3>no one knew it until after the Like maybe it's

0:26:02.240 --> 0:26:03.600
<v Speaker 3>maybe it's all factual.

0:26:04.400 --> 0:26:06.440
<v Speaker 2>I am not risking my Super Bowl.

0:26:06.240 --> 0:26:09.680
<v Speaker 3>Window on that, you know, Like I think Kirk Cousins

0:26:09.720 --> 0:26:13.320
<v Speaker 3>should firmly be a backup moving forward and maybe or

0:26:13.359 --> 0:26:15.040
<v Speaker 3>maybe he goes somewhere where he could battle for a

0:26:15.119 --> 0:26:18.320
<v Speaker 3>camp or whatever. I think, just like we're saying with

0:26:18.359 --> 0:26:20.240
<v Speaker 3>Aaron Rodgers, like where is he going to start next year?

0:26:20.280 --> 0:26:22.760
<v Speaker 2>Like like I don't know. My eyes don't lie to me.

0:26:22.840 --> 0:26:25.000
<v Speaker 2>I watched Kirk Cousins play and it was brutal.

0:26:25.520 --> 0:26:27.760
<v Speaker 1>It was rough. It was for sure rough. And if

0:26:27.800 --> 0:26:29.800
<v Speaker 1>I'm the Rams, like you've got a good thing with Stafford,

0:26:29.840 --> 0:26:32.080
<v Speaker 1>I wouldn't. I wouldn't toss that aside to try and

0:26:32.119 --> 0:26:33.280
<v Speaker 1>start over with Kirk Cousins.

0:26:33.680 --> 0:26:37.719
<v Speaker 2>No, we need him, Like, come on, I'm feeling optimistic

0:26:37.760 --> 0:26:40.280
<v Speaker 2>next season, maybe this season after that. Don't don't rip

0:26:40.320 --> 0:26:42.359
<v Speaker 2>my heart out, Like, no, don't do that.

0:26:42.440 --> 0:26:44.720
<v Speaker 3>I will say, look, I didn't understand the whole, like

0:26:44.800 --> 0:26:47.160
<v Speaker 3>Stafford's coming back, but will it be Like if he's

0:26:47.200 --> 0:26:51.680
<v Speaker 3>coming back, you guys just say okay, like welcome back

0:26:51.680 --> 0:26:52.360
<v Speaker 3>for another year.

0:26:52.560 --> 0:26:55.960
<v Speaker 2>Like ten minutes after our lossing is to Eagles, they're

0:26:56.000 --> 0:26:58.440
<v Speaker 2>like every single year they try to retire. I don't

0:26:58.440 --> 0:27:00.240
<v Speaker 2>know why media does that, Like he's look, can you

0:27:00.280 --> 0:27:02.320
<v Speaker 2>be like why are you saying this? Like, yeah, I

0:27:02.359 --> 0:27:03.560
<v Speaker 2>still have football left.

0:27:03.760 --> 0:27:06.359
<v Speaker 1>Because he's thirty six years old, has taking a beating

0:27:06.400 --> 0:27:07.040
<v Speaker 1>in his career.

0:27:07.119 --> 0:27:10.440
<v Speaker 2>That's why I already made my case. When you look

0:27:10.480 --> 0:27:14.320
<v Speaker 2>a dog in him, it's a picture of Matthew Stafford

0:27:14.320 --> 0:27:16.960
<v Speaker 2>where that was created. There's no way age is playing

0:27:17.000 --> 0:27:18.840
<v Speaker 2>a factor with him in his head and he still

0:27:18.840 --> 0:27:21.760
<v Speaker 2>thinks he can go out there and play into his forties.

0:27:21.800 --> 0:27:26.240
<v Speaker 2>That's really what he's believing. Guys. Kirk Cousins is six

0:27:26.320 --> 0:27:30.879
<v Speaker 2>months younger than Matthew Stafford, and he's comfortable for Stenson.

0:27:30.920 --> 0:27:33.720
<v Speaker 3>Bennett is two years younger than Matthew Stafford.

0:27:33.880 --> 0:27:37.640
<v Speaker 2>Like, hey, we bring up Ben in projects.

0:27:37.680 --> 0:27:39.800
<v Speaker 1>So the question is that that question should then be

0:27:39.840 --> 0:27:43.159
<v Speaker 1>asked of Sean McVay and Less Snead, who still have

0:27:43.320 --> 0:27:46.560
<v Speaker 1>yet to formulate a plan for life after Stafford. I

0:27:46.560 --> 0:27:48.280
<v Speaker 1>don't care how much dog you got in you, father,

0:27:48.359 --> 0:27:49.520
<v Speaker 1>time comes for all of us.

0:27:50.080 --> 0:27:52.200
<v Speaker 2>I think that's the one slight that I have against

0:27:52.280 --> 0:27:54.600
<v Speaker 2>McVeigh and less Snead. We didn't plan properly at the

0:27:54.640 --> 0:27:57.399
<v Speaker 2>quarterback position, like the d line, the secondary, you know,

0:27:57.480 --> 0:28:00.159
<v Speaker 2>the running back, Like we hit on all cylinders, but

0:28:00.200 --> 0:28:03.160
<v Speaker 2>we have yet to bring in a quarterback that can

0:28:03.200 --> 0:28:06.360
<v Speaker 2>really take the mantle. Because honestly, it's like, all right,

0:28:06.400 --> 0:28:09.200
<v Speaker 2>we're looking at the clock. You know who two years left,

0:28:09.240 --> 0:28:11.239
<v Speaker 2>you know, like that's gonna be here before we know it.

0:28:11.440 --> 0:28:14.040
<v Speaker 1>Also, happy early thirty seventh birthday to Matthew Stafford. He

0:28:14.040 --> 0:28:15.400
<v Speaker 1>turns thirty seven on Friday.

0:28:16.160 --> 0:28:20.080
<v Speaker 3>They I don't think you need unless you're drafting a

0:28:20.160 --> 0:28:22.960
<v Speaker 3>rookie quarterback. This doesn't seem like a we're gonna have

0:28:23.000 --> 0:28:25.400
<v Speaker 3>a quarterback waiting in the like it seems like when

0:28:25.400 --> 0:28:29.320
<v Speaker 3>Matthew Stafford eventually retires, Sean McVay is just like, who

0:28:29.359 --> 0:28:31.840
<v Speaker 3>wants to be the next one to get.

0:28:31.560 --> 0:28:34.200
<v Speaker 2>All of the benefits of leading my offense? And someone

0:28:34.240 --> 0:28:38.240
<v Speaker 2>will come listen, I have PTSD being that I had

0:28:38.240 --> 0:28:40.720
<v Speaker 2>to watch football being played with Sam Braffner on the

0:28:40.800 --> 0:28:44.120
<v Speaker 2>sideline tearing his acl with Sean Hill, with Austin Davis

0:28:44.120 --> 0:28:47.040
<v Speaker 2>went bad, Nick Fole, Like, I am so scared to

0:28:47.040 --> 0:28:50.120
<v Speaker 2>go back to those dark hours that I literally probably

0:28:50.160 --> 0:28:51.200
<v Speaker 2>will not watch football.

0:28:51.520 --> 0:28:53.920
<v Speaker 3>I'm going to call you out, LaQuan. You keep talking

0:28:53.960 --> 0:28:55.959
<v Speaker 3>about how scarred you are as a fan. You are

0:28:56.000 --> 0:28:57.720
<v Speaker 3>the only one of us who have seen a Super

0:28:57.720 --> 0:28:59.760
<v Speaker 3>Bowl in the last three decades.

0:29:00.000 --> 0:29:04.120
<v Speaker 2>This is true. This is true. Hey, hey, listen, I'm

0:29:04.120 --> 0:29:06.440
<v Speaker 2>actually happy. You know, the Chiefs were kind enough to

0:29:06.520 --> 0:29:08.400
<v Speaker 2>us to step out and let us win one in

0:29:08.440 --> 0:29:10.480
<v Speaker 2>the middle of their dynasty run in Powerhouse.

0:29:10.520 --> 0:29:13.360
<v Speaker 3>So if anyone has suffered here, I don't know if

0:29:13.360 --> 0:29:14.160
<v Speaker 3>it's the Rams fan.

0:29:14.240 --> 0:29:15.000
<v Speaker 2>That's all I'm saying.

0:29:15.000 --> 0:29:20.080
<v Speaker 1>That's that's very true. That's very true. So you're violent away.

0:29:21.880 --> 0:29:23.800
<v Speaker 1>Let's take a break, take a break, come back dive,

0:29:23.840 --> 0:29:25.920
<v Speaker 1>and it's more of our exit interviews. We've got the

0:29:26.000 --> 0:29:27.920
<v Speaker 1>Ravens and the Lions, coming up next here on the

0:29:28.040 --> 0:29:34.120
<v Speaker 1>NFL Fantasy Football Podcast. Pick number twenty seven belongs to

0:29:34.120 --> 0:29:36.720
<v Speaker 1>the Baltimore Ravens who were twelve and five this past

0:29:36.800 --> 0:29:39.800
<v Speaker 1>year and the things that went right no surprise Lamar Jackson,

0:29:39.840 --> 0:29:44.120
<v Speaker 1>who right now still a candidate for MVP. They have

0:29:44.160 --> 0:29:46.600
<v Speaker 1>not yet announced the award. They'll announce that on Saturday

0:29:46.680 --> 0:29:50.120
<v Speaker 1>at NFL Honors. With Lamar over forty one hundred passing

0:29:50.200 --> 0:29:52.960
<v Speaker 1>yards over nine hundred rushing yards, he finished as the

0:29:53.240 --> 0:29:57.040
<v Speaker 1>QB one and his partner in crime in the Baltimore

0:29:57.080 --> 0:30:00.360
<v Speaker 1>backfield Derek Henry, who was just shy of two thousand

0:30:00.440 --> 0:30:04.440
<v Speaker 1>rushing yards for the season sixteen rushing touchdowns, He was

0:30:04.480 --> 0:30:08.280
<v Speaker 1>the RB four. Zay Flowers had himself a nice season

0:30:09.080 --> 0:30:12.520
<v Speaker 1>over one thousand receiving yards for receiving touchdowns, he was

0:30:12.520 --> 0:30:16.160
<v Speaker 1>the wide receiver twenty two. Mark Andrews latter half of

0:30:16.200 --> 0:30:19.320
<v Speaker 1>the season went right. Mark Andrews early half of the

0:30:19.360 --> 0:30:23.120
<v Speaker 1>season went wrong. And I know we've talked about whether

0:30:23.200 --> 0:30:27.080
<v Speaker 1>or not the car accident that he suffered during the

0:30:27.120 --> 0:30:29.760
<v Speaker 1>preseason may have had an impact on him. But remember

0:30:30.240 --> 0:30:33.560
<v Speaker 1>after Week one, when Isaiah likely caught like eleveny balls,

0:30:33.600 --> 0:30:35.640
<v Speaker 1>we were all like it's over. It's a wrap for

0:30:35.760 --> 0:30:38.960
<v Speaker 1>Mark Andrews. The year started badly for Mark Andrews. The

0:30:39.000 --> 0:30:42.120
<v Speaker 1>year ended poorly for Mark Andrews, but in between he

0:30:42.160 --> 0:30:44.960
<v Speaker 1>did find a little bit of redemption there. But I

0:30:44.960 --> 0:30:49.120
<v Speaker 1>guess I beg's the question. I'll ask this of you, Flora,

0:30:49.160 --> 0:30:52.280
<v Speaker 1>since your team sort of benefited from his foibles there

0:30:52.280 --> 0:30:55.720
<v Speaker 1>at the end of the season. Is Mark Andrews still

0:30:55.800 --> 0:30:58.960
<v Speaker 1>a he finishes the tight end six? Is he still

0:30:59.000 --> 0:31:01.520
<v Speaker 1>a top five tight Are we drafting him as such

0:31:01.600 --> 0:31:02.080
<v Speaker 1>next year?

0:31:03.520 --> 0:31:08.400
<v Speaker 3>I think so because the tight end position is so ugly.

0:31:09.120 --> 0:31:12.920
<v Speaker 3>I like, so after there's the top two in Bowers

0:31:13.120 --> 0:31:17.120
<v Speaker 3>and McBride. Obviously, I think Kittle goes in front of him.

0:31:17.160 --> 0:31:20.880
<v Speaker 3>I think Sam Laporta goes in front of him. After that, though,

0:31:21.720 --> 0:31:23.560
<v Speaker 3>it then becomes like a pre like I think you

0:31:23.560 --> 0:31:25.520
<v Speaker 3>can make the case for Andrews. You can make the

0:31:25.600 --> 0:31:29.720
<v Speaker 3>case for like maybe Kelsey or Hockinson or in Djoku.

0:31:29.880 --> 0:31:33.960
<v Speaker 3>But like, I think the fact that Andrews is who

0:31:34.000 --> 0:31:35.800
<v Speaker 3>he is and has been as good as he has

0:31:35.880 --> 0:31:38.560
<v Speaker 3>been for years, and even more than that, the quarterback

0:31:38.600 --> 0:31:41.000
<v Speaker 3>and the offense that he is tied to, I think

0:31:41.080 --> 0:31:43.160
<v Speaker 3>people will see and something you talk about a lot

0:31:43.200 --> 0:31:45.440
<v Speaker 3>Marcus like muscle memory. I think people will see the

0:31:45.520 --> 0:31:47.800
<v Speaker 3>name Mark Andrews after like the other four tight ends

0:31:47.840 --> 0:31:49.560
<v Speaker 3>are off the board and be like, this is my

0:31:49.640 --> 0:31:51.160
<v Speaker 3>last chance to get one of the top guys.

0:31:51.360 --> 0:31:53.360
<v Speaker 2>And I still think he'll he'll get drafted as one.

0:31:54.200 --> 0:31:56.600
<v Speaker 1>Lakwan Lamar Jackson. Is he your QB one? Have you

0:31:56.720 --> 0:31:58.640
<v Speaker 1>have you declared a QB one for this year? I

0:31:58.640 --> 0:31:59.440
<v Speaker 1>don't even know if you have.

0:32:00.440 --> 0:32:03.360
<v Speaker 2>I have not. Actually, I mean that that's actually one

0:32:03.360 --> 0:32:04.959
<v Speaker 2>of the things that I probably have to get on.

0:32:05.040 --> 0:32:08.120
<v Speaker 2>I mean, I feel though if you do make him

0:32:08.160 --> 0:32:10.520
<v Speaker 2>your QB one, it's based on Todd Monk and you know,

0:32:10.600 --> 0:32:13.560
<v Speaker 2>basically returning, you're hoping that he can basically mirror what

0:32:13.600 --> 0:32:16.680
<v Speaker 2>he did this season, putting up the most Fantasy points

0:32:16.720 --> 0:32:18.680
<v Speaker 2>ever you know, by a player. So I feel like,

0:32:18.960 --> 0:32:22.800
<v Speaker 2>you know, he could still be that elite quarterback next season,

0:32:22.960 --> 0:32:25.200
<v Speaker 2>even if you know they watch tape and try to

0:32:25.440 --> 0:32:28.240
<v Speaker 2>stop him and whatever that offense is. But he's he's

0:32:28.320 --> 0:32:30.440
<v Speaker 2>up there. I wouldn't argue if somebody today was like, yeah,

0:32:30.480 --> 0:32:32.480
<v Speaker 2>he's my QB one twenty twenty five. I think it's

0:32:32.480 --> 0:32:33.320
<v Speaker 2>a two man race.

0:32:33.880 --> 0:32:36.160
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I feel like, there's not there's not gonna be

0:32:36.160 --> 0:32:38.640
<v Speaker 1>a cute There's gonna be a consensus, right, It's gonna

0:32:38.640 --> 0:32:40.920
<v Speaker 1>sort of be a preference. Do you like Josh Allen?

0:32:41.240 --> 0:32:44.080
<v Speaker 1>Do you like Lamar Jackson? I don't think there's a

0:32:44.120 --> 0:32:45.120
<v Speaker 1>wrong answer.

0:32:45.800 --> 0:32:49.360
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I think Lamar will be in consensus. I think

0:32:49.440 --> 0:32:51.920
<v Speaker 3>I do agree. I think it'll be very preference space.

0:32:52.000 --> 0:32:54.240
<v Speaker 3>But I just feel like Lamar is gonna go one

0:32:54.440 --> 0:32:56.080
<v Speaker 3>more often than Josh.

0:32:56.120 --> 0:32:56.600
<v Speaker 4>Probably.

0:32:57.520 --> 0:33:00.800
<v Speaker 1>That being said, then how are we feel about his

0:33:01.200 --> 0:33:04.960
<v Speaker 1>wide receivers Zay Flowers seventy four catches, one hundred and

0:33:05.040 --> 0:33:08.920
<v Speaker 1>sixteen targets, but even then, I don't know, Floride still

0:33:08.960 --> 0:33:16.800
<v Speaker 1>feels like a fourth fifth round wide receiver at best.

0:33:17.440 --> 0:33:20.360
<v Speaker 3>I'm not as high on Like I like Zay Flowers

0:33:20.440 --> 0:33:24.120
<v Speaker 3>as a talent as a real life player, but for

0:33:24.280 --> 0:33:28.440
<v Speaker 3>fantasy like last year, it was very up or down.

0:33:28.680 --> 0:33:32.520
<v Speaker 3>Like he had numerous games where where he'd give you

0:33:32.560 --> 0:33:35.160
<v Speaker 3>like really big yardage or he I mean he only

0:33:35.160 --> 0:33:38.760
<v Speaker 3>scored three four touchdowns I believe receiving last year. And

0:33:38.800 --> 0:33:40.440
<v Speaker 3>then like you look at his game logs, there's a

0:33:40.480 --> 0:33:42.760
<v Speaker 3>lot of games where it's like fifty yards or fewer.

0:33:43.240 --> 0:33:46.800
<v Speaker 3>So to me, yeah, I agree. I like him a

0:33:46.840 --> 0:33:48.280
<v Speaker 3>lot more if you get him as say, like a

0:33:48.320 --> 0:33:52.520
<v Speaker 3>wide receiver three. But I'm looking at like early rankings

0:33:52.600 --> 0:33:55.520
<v Speaker 3>right now, and they have him the names in the

0:33:55.520 --> 0:33:59.200
<v Speaker 3>tier with him or like Mike Evans, DJ Moore, Devonte Rashi,

0:33:59.360 --> 0:34:04.360
<v Speaker 3>Rice Courtland, Sutton Pickins, Metcalf. That feels right, but there's

0:34:04.440 --> 0:34:06.760
<v Speaker 3>names in there I would rather have than say Flowers.

0:34:07.440 --> 0:34:11.160
<v Speaker 1>Absolutely, yeah, And I think that's it's another argument to

0:34:11.480 --> 0:34:14.960
<v Speaker 1>have in the offseason, just the volatility of some guys

0:34:15.080 --> 0:34:18.080
<v Speaker 1>right where it's you look and you look at, hey,

0:34:18.160 --> 0:34:20.200
<v Speaker 1>why's hever twenty two? That's not bad, But then, as

0:34:20.239 --> 0:34:23.239
<v Speaker 1>you mentioned, the week to week is a little bit

0:34:23.760 --> 0:34:26.719
<v Speaker 1>of a different story with some of these guys where

0:34:26.760 --> 0:34:28.839
<v Speaker 1>you have those spike weeks that help you win a week,

0:34:28.880 --> 0:34:30.920
<v Speaker 1>and then there are the weeks where he just is

0:34:31.280 --> 0:34:32.560
<v Speaker 1>no help at all.

0:34:33.239 --> 0:34:35.360
<v Speaker 2>You're not adding in the headaches of when you're gonna

0:34:35.360 --> 0:34:37.759
<v Speaker 2>start him or not, like you can never guess when

0:34:37.800 --> 0:34:39.600
<v Speaker 2>the matchup is in his favor. It's one of those

0:34:39.640 --> 0:34:41.880
<v Speaker 2>things that it happens at random, and I'm not drafting

0:34:41.880 --> 0:34:43.920
<v Speaker 2>a wide receiver where you know on a week to

0:34:43.960 --> 0:34:45.920
<v Speaker 2>week basis at the wonder which week, I'm going to

0:34:45.960 --> 0:34:47.600
<v Speaker 2>put him in. If I'm drafting him in the first

0:34:47.680 --> 0:34:49.640
<v Speaker 2>three to four rounds, that sounds insane.

0:34:49.880 --> 0:34:52.560
<v Speaker 3>If I get that player in as my wide receiver

0:34:52.640 --> 0:34:54.800
<v Speaker 3>three in like round six, I'm cool with it because

0:34:54.800 --> 0:34:56.839
<v Speaker 3>there's gonna be some weeks where he just goes off

0:34:56.840 --> 0:34:59.200
<v Speaker 3>and wins me the week. But if I'm paying a

0:34:59.280 --> 0:35:02.560
<v Speaker 3>premium price, I need you to be like that anchor

0:35:02.640 --> 0:35:03.280
<v Speaker 3>for my team.

0:35:03.800 --> 0:35:06.360
<v Speaker 2>Like he's a wide receiver one on the offense, he

0:35:06.520 --> 0:35:10.200
<v Speaker 2>is a flexing fantasy Like there's no way every single

0:35:10.239 --> 0:35:13.360
<v Speaker 2>week start. Like I hear people talk about Zay Flowers

0:35:13.400 --> 0:35:16.080
<v Speaker 2>how electric is, Like I love watching him play, but

0:35:16.120 --> 0:35:18.759
<v Speaker 2>he will never enter my fantasy rosters as a guy

0:35:18.800 --> 0:35:20.600
<v Speaker 2>I will plug and play in on a week to

0:35:20.640 --> 0:35:23.560
<v Speaker 2>week basis. The tier behind him that like this is

0:35:23.560 --> 0:35:26.360
<v Speaker 2>on Fantasy Pros early rankings right now, the tier behind

0:35:26.440 --> 0:35:31.680
<v Speaker 2>him has like DeVonta Smith, Jordan Addison, chrys Olave, Brandon

0:35:31.760 --> 0:35:34.880
<v Speaker 2>Aiyuk like Romo Dunes, And I'm like that probably feels

0:35:34.880 --> 0:35:35.480
<v Speaker 2>like the tiers A.

0:35:35.560 --> 0:35:38.040
<v Speaker 1>Flowers belongs in which one of you was out on Alave.

0:35:38.120 --> 0:35:40.600
<v Speaker 1>It's u lu kwan, this is your just done.

0:35:40.719 --> 0:35:43.919
<v Speaker 2>Done, done done. I had been done, he falls into

0:35:43.960 --> 0:35:45.400
<v Speaker 2>that Trevor Lawrence hate bag that I have.

0:35:46.360 --> 0:35:49.440
<v Speaker 3>I've done if he goes where he's been going in drafts,

0:35:49.440 --> 0:35:51.000
<v Speaker 3>but if we get a discount on him, like I

0:35:51.000 --> 0:35:52.320
<v Speaker 3>could see myself buy it back.

0:35:52.200 --> 0:35:54.680
<v Speaker 2>In and and to be clear about my hate bag,

0:35:54.760 --> 0:35:56.800
<v Speaker 2>like I don't want people thinking that I hate these players,

0:35:56.800 --> 0:35:58.760
<v Speaker 2>but it's one of those things where the fantasy streets

0:35:58.760 --> 0:36:01.239
<v Speaker 2>makes me dislike them where their ADPs end up, and

0:36:01.239 --> 0:36:03.319
<v Speaker 2>then I'll overhype and you constantly hear it, and I'm

0:36:03.360 --> 0:36:04.880
<v Speaker 2>just sitting there as the guy in the corner in

0:36:04.920 --> 0:36:07.359
<v Speaker 2>the dark lake. Does nobody see what I see? Like

0:36:07.719 --> 0:36:09.520
<v Speaker 2>one of those moments, it's like, what are we doing?

0:36:09.719 --> 0:36:11.120
<v Speaker 1>Don't hate the player, hate the ADP.

0:36:11.840 --> 0:36:15.960
<v Speaker 3>There's a twenty player wide receiver gap between Zay Flowers

0:36:16.000 --> 0:36:18.839
<v Speaker 3>and Jaden Reid, and that seems crazy to me. They're

0:36:18.960 --> 0:36:20.080
<v Speaker 3>very similar players in my.

0:36:20.040 --> 0:36:23.360
<v Speaker 2>Opinion, if not the exact same, in the same situations

0:36:23.400 --> 0:36:24.880
<v Speaker 2>as well, Like I don't get.

0:36:24.719 --> 0:36:28.040
<v Speaker 1>It, except Jay Flowers has less competition in his offense

0:36:28.160 --> 0:36:32.000
<v Speaker 1>than Jayden Reid does and has Lamar Jackson and as

0:36:32.080 --> 0:36:36.040
<v Speaker 1>Lamar Jackson. So there's that big number twenty eight, our

0:36:36.080 --> 0:36:39.360
<v Speaker 1>last one for this episode is the Detroit Lions fifteen

0:36:39.520 --> 0:36:42.480
<v Speaker 1>AM two A phenomenal season, which I know for Detroit

0:36:42.520 --> 0:36:45.880
<v Speaker 1>fans maybe doesn't lessen the sting of the way things ended,

0:36:45.920 --> 0:36:50.239
<v Speaker 1>but nonetheless Jared Goff, Jared Goof, if you will, for

0:36:50.520 --> 0:36:52.960
<v Speaker 1>forty six hundred passing year, I did that exactly as

0:36:53.040 --> 0:36:54.960
<v Speaker 1>Lakwan was taking a sip of cranberry juice to see

0:36:54.960 --> 0:36:55.880
<v Speaker 1>if I can maybe spit.

0:36:55.719 --> 0:37:01.440
<v Speaker 2>It out because I didn't expect it right, thank you.

0:37:01.440 --> 0:37:04.520
<v Speaker 1>Following that, forty six hundred passing yards, thirty seven touchdowns,

0:37:04.520 --> 0:37:08.319
<v Speaker 1>twelve picks, he was the QB six. Jamiir Gibbs was fantastic.

0:37:08.360 --> 0:37:12.960
<v Speaker 1>He had over nineteen hundred scrimmage yards. Was the RB two.

0:37:13.880 --> 0:37:16.799
<v Speaker 1>David Montgomery another solid season. Seven hundred and seventy five

0:37:16.880 --> 0:37:20.200
<v Speaker 1>rushing yards, three hundred and forty one receiving yards. He

0:37:20.280 --> 0:37:25.080
<v Speaker 1>had thirteen well twelve rushing touchdowns and a passing touchdown,

0:37:25.400 --> 0:37:28.280
<v Speaker 1>so I guess thirteen total touchdowns if you will, RB seventeen.

0:37:28.320 --> 0:37:30.520
<v Speaker 1>I was despite missing some time with injury. I'm on

0:37:30.640 --> 0:37:34.400
<v Speaker 1>Ross Saint Brown fantastic again. Twelve hundred yards, twelve receiving

0:37:34.480 --> 0:37:37.400
<v Speaker 1>touchdowns are a wide receiver three at Jamison Williams a

0:37:37.400 --> 0:37:40.000
<v Speaker 1>little bit of a breakout season. Over one thousand receiving yards.

0:37:40.520 --> 0:37:44.480
<v Speaker 1>He had eight total touchdowns Wide receiver twenty three. Sam

0:37:44.600 --> 0:37:48.040
<v Speaker 1>Laporta sort of like Mark Andrews, kind of fits into

0:37:48.080 --> 0:37:50.560
<v Speaker 1>the what went right and what went wrong because early

0:37:50.600 --> 0:37:54.040
<v Speaker 1>in the season, Sam Laporta was a ghost. I'm a ghost,

0:37:54.360 --> 0:37:57.960
<v Speaker 1>like he was just not there at all. But late

0:37:58.000 --> 0:37:59.640
<v Speaker 1>in the season he started to come to life. He

0:37:59.680 --> 0:38:02.880
<v Speaker 1>finished just as the tight end eight, which is probably

0:38:02.920 --> 0:38:05.240
<v Speaker 1>not really making you feel any better if you drafted

0:38:05.320 --> 0:38:08.080
<v Speaker 1>him as the first tight end off the board. So

0:38:08.239 --> 0:38:10.760
<v Speaker 1>I guess that leads me to ask the question, Lakwan,

0:38:10.800 --> 0:38:12.960
<v Speaker 1>where are you drafting Sam Laporta next year?

0:38:13.239 --> 0:38:13.520
<v Speaker 2>Are you?

0:38:13.719 --> 0:38:15.640
<v Speaker 1>Obviously you know I drafted him as the tight end one,

0:38:15.760 --> 0:38:18.400
<v Speaker 1>but top three, top five tight end.

0:38:19.520 --> 0:38:21.680
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he could be a top five tight end. I'm

0:38:21.719 --> 0:38:24.080
<v Speaker 2>still a little worried about the identity of this line's

0:38:24.120 --> 0:38:26.879
<v Speaker 2>offense with Ben Johnson gone, but I still still think,

0:38:26.920 --> 0:38:28.759
<v Speaker 2>you know, the back end of the season, him making

0:38:28.760 --> 0:38:31.200
<v Speaker 2>an impact, it still will be relevant, you know. And

0:38:31.200 --> 0:38:33.000
<v Speaker 2>then I think more so that he will be a

0:38:33.000 --> 0:38:35.600
<v Speaker 2>comfort pick for me, Like if I don't want to

0:38:35.600 --> 0:38:37.239
<v Speaker 2>get to George Kittles, if I don't want to pay

0:38:37.320 --> 0:38:41.040
<v Speaker 2>up for trade McBride, brock Bauers, Sam reporter there, why not,

0:38:41.280 --> 0:38:42.120
<v Speaker 2>like I'll take him there.

0:38:42.880 --> 0:38:45.480
<v Speaker 1>So you mentioned Ben Johnson being gone, Florio, I mean,

0:38:45.480 --> 0:38:48.319
<v Speaker 1>how much does that change? Maybe not the guy's at

0:38:48.320 --> 0:38:50.440
<v Speaker 1>the top, right, I mean, I think we're still taking

0:38:50.560 --> 0:38:53.240
<v Speaker 1>I'm on raw, We're still taking Javier Gibbs first round.

0:38:53.640 --> 0:38:58.520
<v Speaker 1>But you know, Jamison Williams, Sam Laporta, how much do

0:38:58.600 --> 0:39:00.919
<v Speaker 1>you factor in the lack of Ben Johnson this year?

0:39:01.680 --> 0:39:04.360
<v Speaker 3>I think it has to be factored in. And I

0:39:04.400 --> 0:39:06.840
<v Speaker 3>mean Ben Johnson has been the most sought after OC

0:39:07.120 --> 0:39:09.560
<v Speaker 3>for the last two three years for a while now

0:39:09.600 --> 0:39:13.960
<v Speaker 3>because of how much. And it wasn't just like oh man,

0:39:14.000 --> 0:39:15.560
<v Speaker 3>he's gotten the most out of the passing game, Like

0:39:15.600 --> 0:39:19.200
<v Speaker 3>he elevated everything, the running game, the passing game, all

0:39:19.239 --> 0:39:22.400
<v Speaker 3>the secondary options there. So I agree with your assessment

0:39:22.440 --> 0:39:25.200
<v Speaker 3>markets like Gibbs a Manra, I'm out, although I do

0:39:25.280 --> 0:39:29.680
<v Speaker 3>think to me, with those top guys, it becomes a tiebreaker,

0:39:29.800 --> 0:39:33.200
<v Speaker 3>like if you're debating between a Manra Saint Brown and

0:39:33.200 --> 0:39:36.680
<v Speaker 3>like Lakwan's boy Pooka Nakoula. Let's say I'm gonna be like, well,

0:39:36.920 --> 0:39:40.520
<v Speaker 3>Pookah has everything coming back the same, whereas it's a

0:39:40.520 --> 0:39:42.640
<v Speaker 3>new play caller for a Monra. So I will use

0:39:42.640 --> 0:39:45.120
<v Speaker 3>that to take Puka, but I'm not gonna knock a

0:39:45.160 --> 0:39:48.240
<v Speaker 3>Manra out of the first round. I do have concerns

0:39:48.239 --> 0:39:51.600
<v Speaker 3>with Jared Goff though, because as great as Gough has

0:39:51.600 --> 0:39:54.040
<v Speaker 3>played these last couple of years, I think we all

0:39:54.080 --> 0:39:56.960
<v Speaker 3>would say like it's a lot of the system that

0:39:57.040 --> 0:39:59.799
<v Speaker 3>he played in and the talent around him so much,

0:40:00.320 --> 0:40:04.040
<v Speaker 3>not him just like going off and everything. So I

0:40:04.040 --> 0:40:06.680
<v Speaker 3>think he takes a hit and the secondary pass catchers

0:40:06.719 --> 0:40:08.480
<v Speaker 3>like Jamison and Laporta take a hit. And one thing

0:40:08.520 --> 0:40:10.880
<v Speaker 3>I was talking to the Kwan over the weekend, I

0:40:10.960 --> 0:40:13.439
<v Speaker 3>might just punk tight end next year, Like I don't

0:40:13.440 --> 0:40:15.840
<v Speaker 3>want to use a second round pick on Bowers or McBride.

0:40:16.160 --> 0:40:19.319
<v Speaker 3>I'm sick of taking like someone like Laporta in round

0:40:19.400 --> 0:40:21.840
<v Speaker 3>three or four thinking he could give me elite stats

0:40:21.840 --> 0:40:24.640
<v Speaker 3>and then he's just solid and then I don't know.

0:40:24.680 --> 0:40:26.879
<v Speaker 3>It's like I think this might be the year where

0:40:26.880 --> 0:40:29.040
<v Speaker 3>I just I'm the last person in my draft to

0:40:29.080 --> 0:40:29.759
<v Speaker 3>take a tight end.

0:40:30.200 --> 0:40:32.359
<v Speaker 1>I can't do it. I just I don't. I don't

0:40:32.400 --> 0:40:34.359
<v Speaker 1>want that headache of trying to stream a tight end

0:40:35.040 --> 0:40:35.560
<v Speaker 1>every year?

0:40:35.680 --> 0:40:40.320
<v Speaker 2>What do you mean I got you, man, Johnny Smith.

0:40:42.000 --> 0:40:46.560
<v Speaker 1>It went so well for you. I just you know,

0:40:46.840 --> 0:40:49.279
<v Speaker 1>I that's one of those things. It just seems like

0:40:49.320 --> 0:40:52.640
<v Speaker 1>a great thing to say in February, and then you

0:40:52.680 --> 0:40:55.800
<v Speaker 1>know in October when you're like, is this the dollon

0:40:55.840 --> 0:40:58.000
<v Speaker 1>Shoultz Week? And then you're like, I shouldn't have done this,

0:40:58.280 --> 0:41:01.680
<v Speaker 1>like you know, like I just I can't give.

0:41:01.560 --> 0:41:04.200
<v Speaker 2>Me dal Kinkaid And like Evan Ingram in rounds like

0:41:04.560 --> 0:41:05.839
<v Speaker 2>nine to ten, you.

0:41:05.800 --> 0:41:08.680
<v Speaker 1>Were ready to put dalcan k to the moon two

0:41:08.680 --> 0:41:09.239
<v Speaker 1>weeks ago.

0:41:09.400 --> 0:41:10.200
<v Speaker 4>What are we agreed?

0:41:11.680 --> 0:41:13.719
<v Speaker 3>I Like, I'm like, if I could get like an

0:41:13.760 --> 0:41:16.640
<v Speaker 3>eight round discount and get him at another tight end,

0:41:16.840 --> 0:41:17.840
<v Speaker 3>I'll take the up.

0:41:18.080 --> 0:41:19.920
<v Speaker 2>I feel like my teams are better when I have

0:41:20.000 --> 0:41:22.440
<v Speaker 2>more debt at the wide receiver running back position, where

0:41:22.560 --> 0:41:25.800
<v Speaker 2>I traditionally you'll take, like in that mid round like

0:41:25.840 --> 0:41:27.839
<v Speaker 2>a tight end. But if I could wait even later

0:41:27.960 --> 0:41:30.040
<v Speaker 2>and get a John Newe or a Cole Comet that

0:41:30.080 --> 0:41:32.400
<v Speaker 2>I've been screaming for the last month down that I

0:41:32.440 --> 0:41:35.840
<v Speaker 2>think he's gonna be really good this season. So I

0:41:35.880 --> 0:41:38.040
<v Speaker 2>don't know, man, it just feels different with that build

0:41:38.080 --> 0:41:40.120
<v Speaker 2>that you have when you wait on Titand.

0:41:40.120 --> 0:41:43.680
<v Speaker 3>This is years of chasing those upside tight ends, like

0:41:43.760 --> 0:41:46.560
<v Speaker 3>Dal Kinkaid in the fifth round, Kyle Pitts.

0:41:46.760 --> 0:41:48.880
<v Speaker 2>This goes all the way back to like Kyle Rudolph

0:41:48.920 --> 0:41:51.239
<v Speaker 2>as a sixth round pick, like a decade ago. For me,

0:41:51.360 --> 0:41:56.919
<v Speaker 2>like er Smith, I've constantly been chasing these upside tight ends,

0:41:56.920 --> 0:41:59.440
<v Speaker 2>and I'm just I'm over it. I guess the port

0:41:59.560 --> 0:42:00.040
<v Speaker 2>is better than.

0:42:00.120 --> 0:42:01.680
<v Speaker 3>All of those guys, So yes, I would take him

0:42:01.680 --> 0:42:03.880
<v Speaker 3>as a top five tight end depending on costs.

0:42:04.160 --> 0:42:06.840
<v Speaker 2>Higbee falls into that in the twenty season two because

0:42:06.840 --> 0:42:09.239
<v Speaker 2>of twenty nineteen him going off twenty twenty, people were

0:42:09.280 --> 0:42:11.160
<v Speaker 2>pushing Higbee all the way up in the mid round.

0:42:11.560 --> 0:42:14.799
<v Speaker 2>I was ain't on Higbee. I've been burned constantly by

0:42:14.800 --> 0:42:17.120
<v Speaker 2>these upsides. We weren't friends then, man, and we didn't

0:42:17.120 --> 0:42:18.279
<v Speaker 2>know each other. That would have stopped you.

0:42:18.400 --> 0:42:22.319
<v Speaker 1>What the sounds like, is it that your draft strategy

0:42:22.360 --> 0:42:26.120
<v Speaker 1>on tight ends is changing. It's that your mentality about

0:42:26.160 --> 0:42:29.239
<v Speaker 1>the tight ends you're drafting is different, because you're still

0:42:29.280 --> 0:42:32.239
<v Speaker 1>talking about punting and waiting until later to get a guy,

0:42:32.640 --> 0:42:33.920
<v Speaker 1>but now you're just gonna get a guy.

0:42:33.960 --> 0:42:35.319
<v Speaker 2>Where you're just like yeah, I know.

0:42:35.280 --> 0:42:37.839
<v Speaker 1>This dude's gonna be mid right as opposed to.

0:42:38.320 --> 0:42:41.120
<v Speaker 2>I don't have to pay the premium to get mid right.

0:42:41.120 --> 0:42:43.359
<v Speaker 1>Like I instead of like waiting and being like this guy,

0:42:44.200 --> 0:42:46.799
<v Speaker 1>Yeah he's at mid is the floor and like the

0:42:46.840 --> 0:42:49.360
<v Speaker 1>ceiling is the roof. Like now, like, you haven't changed

0:42:49.400 --> 0:42:52.359
<v Speaker 1>your strategy, You just changed your mentality, is all that is.

0:42:52.719 --> 0:42:55.040
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, Yeah, like I'm going to in and out for

0:42:55.640 --> 0:42:58.239
<v Speaker 3>that two ninety nine double stack rather than like.

0:42:58.719 --> 0:43:00.000
<v Speaker 2>I don't know, I was, what's a premium?

0:43:00.600 --> 0:43:02.080
<v Speaker 1>Like in and out.

0:43:05.080 --> 0:43:06.680
<v Speaker 3>That's what I'm doing right now. I'll be having the

0:43:06.719 --> 0:43:08.839
<v Speaker 3>in and out tight end strategy going this year.

0:43:08.880 --> 0:43:09.960
<v Speaker 1>I knew he was gonna say that.

0:43:10.000 --> 0:43:12.440
<v Speaker 2>I'll say Habit Burger, and then in and out you

0:43:12.600 --> 0:43:13.840
<v Speaker 2>decide which premium or not.

0:43:14.719 --> 0:43:16.880
<v Speaker 1>I've never had had I've never heard of Habit Burger,

0:43:17.040 --> 0:43:20.560
<v Speaker 1>So Habit's fine. It's been a long time. It's been

0:43:20.560 --> 0:43:22.320
<v Speaker 1>a long time since I've had one. I gotta go

0:43:22.400 --> 0:43:25.440
<v Speaker 1>back again. I guess the gourmet is like Bowers McBride.

0:43:25.680 --> 0:43:28.480
<v Speaker 1>Then there's like the middle burger chains or whatever, and

0:43:28.520 --> 0:43:29.080
<v Speaker 1>then there's.

0:43:29.160 --> 0:43:30.920
<v Speaker 3>Look, there's in and out there for two ninety nine

0:43:31.000 --> 0:43:33.279
<v Speaker 3>or three ninety nine whatever, it calls get yourself a

0:43:33.320 --> 0:43:33.799
<v Speaker 3>great meal.

0:43:33.920 --> 0:43:35.960
<v Speaker 2>But no, we talked about this over the weekend too,

0:43:35.960 --> 0:43:38.040
<v Speaker 2>Like Jonna Swift was on the waiver wire, zach Ertz

0:43:38.239 --> 0:43:40.239
<v Speaker 2>was on the waiver wire, like all these other guys

0:43:40.280 --> 0:43:42.680
<v Speaker 2>that were actually showing up and showing out were I

0:43:42.800 --> 0:43:45.200
<v Speaker 2>thought the waiver war. So punting completely is not a

0:43:45.200 --> 0:43:47.160
<v Speaker 2>bad idea. And just wait a couple of weeks for

0:43:47.200 --> 0:43:47.640
<v Speaker 2>these guys.

0:43:47.719 --> 0:43:50.800
<v Speaker 3>I'm looking at a Fantasy pro again. It's it's February.

0:43:50.840 --> 0:43:53.000
<v Speaker 3>This is gonna be very different from August. But they're

0:43:53.239 --> 0:43:56.440
<v Speaker 3>they're early ADP right now. Tight End ten and on

0:43:56.640 --> 0:44:00.000
<v Speaker 3>is like Evan ingram Kin, Kate Tuckercraft, Jake Ferguson, Dallas

0:44:00.080 --> 0:44:03.680
<v Speaker 3>Goddard Hunter, Henry Kyle Pitts, Brian Muth, Coolekmit. I'll take

0:44:03.719 --> 0:44:06.200
<v Speaker 3>two of those guys in the later rounds of my

0:44:06.280 --> 0:44:08.239
<v Speaker 3>draft rather than a fifth round tight End.

0:44:08.880 --> 0:44:10.880
<v Speaker 1>Here you go, man Mark Andrews is going to be

0:44:10.920 --> 0:44:12.759
<v Speaker 1>five guys where like, you got to pay up for it,

0:44:12.760 --> 0:44:15.600
<v Speaker 1>and you're like, it's fine, not worth it, not worth

0:44:15.600 --> 0:44:16.799
<v Speaker 1>the price I paid for it.

0:44:16.840 --> 0:44:18.480
<v Speaker 2>You don't got to put a small mortgage on your

0:44:18.480 --> 0:44:19.160
<v Speaker 2>house to get there.

0:44:19.280 --> 0:44:23.000
<v Speaker 1>To get it it's like I've done it now, I

0:44:23.080 --> 0:44:29.520
<v Speaker 1>don't know that I'll be back again soon. Speaking of premiums, uh,

0:44:29.680 --> 0:44:33.080
<v Speaker 1>the Lakers got a premium player not really paying a

0:44:33.080 --> 0:44:34.880
<v Speaker 1>premium price, and it sort of broke the internet for

0:44:34.880 --> 0:44:36.440
<v Speaker 1>a couple of days. We'll come back talk about that

0:44:36.520 --> 0:44:39.120
<v Speaker 1>in an NFL perspective as we wrap things up on

0:44:39.200 --> 0:44:46.680
<v Speaker 1>the NFL Fantasy Football Podcast. So, unless you've been living

0:44:46.840 --> 0:44:49.600
<v Speaker 1>under a rock for the last couple of days, you

0:44:49.719 --> 0:44:53.399
<v Speaker 1>know that things happened in the National Basketball Association over

0:44:53.520 --> 0:44:57.040
<v Speaker 1>the weekend. In fact, if you're like most of us,

0:44:57.760 --> 0:45:00.720
<v Speaker 1>you probably either saw something on social media that looked

0:45:00.760 --> 0:45:03.080
<v Speaker 1>like a reporter might have gotten hacked, or you got

0:45:03.080 --> 0:45:06.040
<v Speaker 1>a text message about it from a friend. But the

0:45:06.040 --> 0:45:09.920
<v Speaker 1>longest short of it is Luka Doncic, who by pretty

0:45:10.000 --> 0:45:13.760
<v Speaker 1>much everyone's estimation is a top five player in the NBA,

0:45:13.960 --> 0:45:15.800
<v Speaker 1>is just twenty five years old, is not going to

0:45:15.840 --> 0:45:18.759
<v Speaker 1>finish his career with the Dallas Mavericks. Instead, he's all

0:45:18.800 --> 0:45:21.400
<v Speaker 1>the move to Los Angeles was traded for Anthony Davis

0:45:21.400 --> 0:45:24.640
<v Speaker 1>in a blockbuster three team deal, which, by the way,

0:45:24.880 --> 0:45:27.279
<v Speaker 1>the Utah Jazz. In that trade they were the third

0:45:27.320 --> 0:45:29.920
<v Speaker 1>team there. They were sort of like the spillover bucket, Like,

0:45:29.960 --> 0:45:31.520
<v Speaker 1>hey man, we're trying to like we're trying to like

0:45:31.560 --> 0:45:33.440
<v Speaker 1>bail water out of this thing, and we just need

0:45:33.480 --> 0:45:35.520
<v Speaker 1>an extra bucket to help clean up to That was

0:45:35.520 --> 0:45:37.520
<v Speaker 1>the Utah jazz I here just come take like this

0:45:37.800 --> 0:45:40.720
<v Speaker 1>Jalen Hood Chaffino and a couple of draft picks or whatever.

0:45:42.880 --> 0:45:44.960
<v Speaker 1>That's neither here nor there. I'm not here to evaluate

0:45:45.000 --> 0:45:49.240
<v Speaker 1>the the merits of the trade. But oh it was awful,

0:45:51.920 --> 0:45:57.000
<v Speaker 1>nicky in here, But it was one of those moments

0:45:57.120 --> 0:46:03.239
<v Speaker 1>in sports that just complete Lee circover social media to

0:46:03.440 --> 0:46:07.600
<v Speaker 1>the point that Beyonce announced to her tour the same

0:46:07.800 --> 0:46:11.279
<v Speaker 1>time that the trade was being announced, and everybody's like, hey,

0:46:11.360 --> 0:46:14.000
<v Speaker 1>B not now, who has.

0:46:13.880 --> 0:46:17.239
<v Speaker 2>That ever happened? Like she gets stiffed on her announcement.

0:46:17.920 --> 0:46:21.359
<v Speaker 1>I mean literally everybody's like, B will deal with this

0:46:21.520 --> 0:46:23.919
<v Speaker 1>in just a little bit. We got to talk about

0:46:23.960 --> 0:46:27.080
<v Speaker 1>Ady and Luca. When when you see a move like

0:46:27.120 --> 0:46:30.319
<v Speaker 1>this across sports, it's kind of a meme on social media.

0:46:30.360 --> 0:46:33.000
<v Speaker 1>It's like, explain this to me in you know, in

0:46:33.120 --> 0:46:37.600
<v Speaker 1>baseball terms, in comic book terms, in reality TV show terms,

0:46:38.000 --> 0:46:40.080
<v Speaker 1>and so obviously for a lot of us is what

0:46:40.120 --> 0:46:44.239
<v Speaker 1>would be the NFL equivalent of this, And I mean

0:46:44.320 --> 0:46:46.800
<v Speaker 1>Lakwan the one name that kept popping up when everybody

0:46:46.840 --> 0:46:50.680
<v Speaker 1>said what's the NFL equivalent? Matthew Stafford's name kept showing up,

0:46:50.719 --> 0:46:54.279
<v Speaker 1>and like every different generation as like kind of the

0:46:54.320 --> 0:46:57.400
<v Speaker 1>a D version, right, like older player, like good player,

0:46:57.920 --> 0:46:59.000
<v Speaker 1>but older player.

0:46:59.680 --> 0:47:01.040
<v Speaker 2>I will not accept that?

0:47:01.080 --> 0:47:01.400
<v Speaker 4>Why not?

0:47:01.440 --> 0:47:03.560
<v Speaker 1>I mean if that's not I don't think that's accurate,

0:47:03.680 --> 0:47:08.839
<v Speaker 1>like good player, older player. Okay, then if that, if

0:47:08.880 --> 0:47:11.640
<v Speaker 1>you don't accept that, what would be your NFL equivalent

0:47:11.680 --> 0:47:12.280
<v Speaker 1>of this trade?

0:47:13.000 --> 0:47:15.440
<v Speaker 2>So how I looked at it was it was like

0:47:16.080 --> 0:47:19.960
<v Speaker 2>Joe Burrow traded for Cameron Jordan for the Saints. You

0:47:20.000 --> 0:47:22.719
<v Speaker 2>add in Bubb Memes and then a first round pick

0:47:23.120 --> 0:47:25.600
<v Speaker 2>next year. Like That's how I looked at it as

0:47:25.640 --> 0:47:29.920
<v Speaker 2>because Cam Jordan is a great defender, he's on the

0:47:29.960 --> 0:47:32.319
<v Speaker 2>back end of his career with age, like he's past

0:47:32.400 --> 0:47:36.480
<v Speaker 2>that peak, still a good player, but it's not Joe Burrow.

0:47:36.880 --> 0:47:40.200
<v Speaker 1>No, all right, I guess I could kind of get

0:47:40.239 --> 0:47:43.600
<v Speaker 1>down with that. I just don't know that Cam Jordan

0:47:43.680 --> 0:47:46.799
<v Speaker 1>is the same level of headliner like Ady is still

0:47:46.800 --> 0:47:50.879
<v Speaker 1>a headliner. You know, I don't know your your your

0:47:51.280 --> 0:47:52.360
<v Speaker 1>take on it. Florida.

0:47:54.200 --> 0:47:56.640
<v Speaker 3>I thought about this a lot on Sunday, and I

0:47:56.800 --> 0:47:59.040
<v Speaker 3>landed on it would be like trading Jayden Daniels for

0:47:59.120 --> 0:48:02.960
<v Speaker 3>Dak Prescott because Dak and Ad are about the same age.

0:48:03.000 --> 0:48:06.479
<v Speaker 2>I think they're both thirty one. Luca is like six

0:48:06.520 --> 0:48:08.960
<v Speaker 2>months older than Jade and Daniels. They're both under team

0:48:09.000 --> 0:48:10.080
<v Speaker 2>control for a little bit.

0:48:11.920 --> 0:48:15.279
<v Speaker 3>And yeah, like you're trading your franchise identity away, and

0:48:15.320 --> 0:48:17.000
<v Speaker 3>that's what Jayden is for the Commanders.

0:48:17.040 --> 0:48:17.239
<v Speaker 2>Now.

0:48:18.640 --> 0:48:20.880
<v Speaker 3>I try to think about this a lot, and me

0:48:20.920 --> 0:48:22.800
<v Speaker 3>and LaQuan we're talking about a little bit over the weekend.

0:48:22.840 --> 0:48:27.040
<v Speaker 3>But like, I think this was the most shocking sports

0:48:27.080 --> 0:48:30.240
<v Speaker 3>moment I can remember as a fan. Like the ones

0:48:30.280 --> 0:48:33.160
<v Speaker 3>that I think compare are like Mookie getting traded to

0:48:33.200 --> 0:48:36.640
<v Speaker 3>the Dodgers, your your team, Marcus a Rod to the

0:48:36.719 --> 0:48:40.600
<v Speaker 3>Yankees when Andrew Luck retired, like KD to the Warriors.

0:48:40.680 --> 0:48:44.160
<v Speaker 3>But I think what's different about this is it came

0:48:44.200 --> 0:48:47.120
<v Speaker 3>out of nowhere. There was no build up and it

0:48:47.320 --> 0:48:50.239
<v Speaker 3>just happened randomly on a Saturday night, like and one

0:48:50.239 --> 0:48:52.560
<v Speaker 3>thing I love as a Nick fan is like the

0:48:52.640 --> 0:48:55.560
<v Speaker 3>Knicks have been trying for two decades to get this

0:48:56.160 --> 0:48:59.759
<v Speaker 3>caliber of player on their roster. The Lakers pick up

0:48:59.800 --> 0:49:02.960
<v Speaker 3>a phone on Saturday night, thinking it's a drunk.

0:49:02.719 --> 0:49:04.879
<v Speaker 2>Dial and they're like, you want to give us one

0:49:04.880 --> 0:49:07.800
<v Speaker 2>of the faces of the NBA for you haven't called

0:49:07.840 --> 0:49:12.480
<v Speaker 2>anyone else. You're accepting our first offer. Sure, we'll continue.

0:49:12.040 --> 0:49:14.960
<v Speaker 3>To play NBA on easy mode like that for the

0:49:15.000 --> 0:49:17.560
<v Speaker 3>Lakers smash, except.

0:49:17.280 --> 0:49:21.560
<v Speaker 1>I mean, it really is like the I think the

0:49:21.680 --> 0:49:25.400
<v Speaker 1>shock to that rippled through the sports world was amazing,

0:49:25.760 --> 0:49:31.640
<v Speaker 1>the point that when it first dropped, the universal reaction was, oh,

0:49:31.680 --> 0:49:35.640
<v Speaker 1>Sham's got hacked. Like that was that was what everyone's

0:49:35.800 --> 0:49:38.200
<v Speaker 1>Sham's got hacked. This can't there's no way this is real.

0:49:38.320 --> 0:49:41.120
<v Speaker 1>Sham's got hacked. Ha ha ha. This is really funny.

0:49:41.280 --> 0:49:43.759
<v Speaker 1>But let's like, you know, I mean, I saw a

0:49:43.920 --> 0:49:46.000
<v Speaker 1>video a clip of a live stream. These two guys

0:49:46.040 --> 0:49:48.680
<v Speaker 1>were doing a Laker live stream, and they're like, oh, yeah,

0:49:48.719 --> 0:49:50.440
<v Speaker 1>this is this is fake. Sham's got hacked. Ha ha.

0:49:50.880 --> 0:49:52.080
<v Speaker 1>But let's you know, let's.

0:49:51.880 --> 0:49:52.319
<v Speaker 4>Just for alive.

0:49:52.400 --> 0:49:54.080
<v Speaker 1>Let's just put this in the trade machine and see

0:49:54.080 --> 0:49:54.640
<v Speaker 1>how this would work.

0:49:54.680 --> 0:49:55.880
<v Speaker 2>Blah blah blah blah blah.

0:49:55.760 --> 0:49:58.200
<v Speaker 1>And then five minutes later just like oh wait, this

0:49:58.320 --> 0:50:01.440
<v Speaker 1>is real, Like this is this, this is really really real.

0:50:02.640 --> 0:50:02.920
<v Speaker 2>It was.

0:50:03.120 --> 0:50:06.000
<v Speaker 1>There's very much like a what's happening sort of thing.

0:50:06.360 --> 0:50:08.719
<v Speaker 3>I was at a bar watching Nicks Lakers and like

0:50:08.840 --> 0:50:10.759
<v Speaker 3>with a couple of Laker fan friends and they're like, yeah,

0:50:10.760 --> 0:50:12.440
<v Speaker 3>we're not gonna make any trades this year. If we do,

0:50:12.440 --> 0:50:15.319
<v Speaker 3>it's gonna be very small. And then like I walked home,

0:50:15.360 --> 0:50:17.400
<v Speaker 3>and in the walk home, like the game ended and

0:50:17.480 --> 0:50:20.759
<v Speaker 3>Luca got traded to the Lakers. Have you guys ever

0:50:20.840 --> 0:50:23.720
<v Speaker 3>seen a time where reporters like I have to ensure

0:50:23.760 --> 0:50:25.080
<v Speaker 3>you that this is real, Like.

0:50:25.480 --> 0:50:27.600
<v Speaker 1>I have to say I have to confirm that this

0:50:27.680 --> 0:50:31.560
<v Speaker 1>is actually really happening. Yeah, I mean, because at first

0:50:31.560 --> 0:50:32.960
<v Speaker 1>I was like, this is sort of it sort of

0:50:32.960 --> 0:50:35.560
<v Speaker 1>feels like the night Antonio Brown was a Buffalo bill

0:50:35.640 --> 0:50:39.000
<v Speaker 1>for like fifteen minutes. But this is even bigger than that.

0:50:39.520 --> 0:50:41.520
<v Speaker 2>I don't think we'll ever get an NFL trade to

0:50:41.600 --> 0:50:42.120
<v Speaker 2>this level.

0:50:42.600 --> 0:50:46.040
<v Speaker 1>No, I don't think so either, because the NBA is

0:50:46.280 --> 0:50:51.120
<v Speaker 1>very much about salary dump trades about superstars moving. There's

0:50:51.160 --> 0:50:54.719
<v Speaker 1>a lot more superstar movement, especially with trades in the

0:50:54.840 --> 0:50:59.359
<v Speaker 1>NBA than there is in the NFL. And yeah, I

0:50:59.400 --> 0:51:01.879
<v Speaker 1>just I can't imagine if you're an NFL team likes

0:51:01.920 --> 0:51:04.319
<v Speaker 1>you mentioned with Jade, Like, if you're in Washington and

0:51:04.360 --> 0:51:07.719
<v Speaker 1>you have Jayden Daniels on this rookie contract under team

0:51:07.800 --> 0:51:11.799
<v Speaker 1>control as the new face of your franchise, you're not

0:51:12.120 --> 0:51:16.160
<v Speaker 1>just gonna dump him for even a good player, but

0:51:16.239 --> 0:51:19.799
<v Speaker 1>an older player, right, He's just not gonna do it.

0:51:19.960 --> 0:51:21.680
<v Speaker 1>The contract dynamics are so different.

0:51:22.239 --> 0:51:25.919
<v Speaker 3>Miles Garrett, Aaron Rodgers, Russell will like, we've seen really

0:51:26.000 --> 0:51:29.520
<v Speaker 3>big name players move before, but it happens after two

0:51:29.520 --> 0:51:31.919
<v Speaker 3>to three months of coverage of like what this train

0:51:32.000 --> 0:51:33.600
<v Speaker 3>could look like, Whereas.

0:51:33.280 --> 0:51:37.120
<v Speaker 2>In the NBA, like literally no other gms didn't even

0:51:37.120 --> 0:51:39.640
<v Speaker 2>know that Luca was available, Like it just happened.

0:51:40.360 --> 0:51:42.239
<v Speaker 1>I talked about the Utah Yeah, Danny Ainge and the

0:51:42.320 --> 0:51:45.440
<v Speaker 1>Utah Jazz were involved. Afterwards, Age said, I didn't know

0:51:46.160 --> 0:51:49.759
<v Speaker 1>it was Luca ad that he's like by the time

0:51:49.800 --> 0:51:51.440
<v Speaker 1>I find out, and he's like I had it was

0:51:51.480 --> 0:51:53.759
<v Speaker 1>like I found out like thirty minutes before they posted it.

0:51:53.840 --> 0:51:55.080
<v Speaker 1>I was like, it was too late for me to

0:51:55.120 --> 0:51:55.720
<v Speaker 1>do anything.

0:51:57.120 --> 0:51:58.839
<v Speaker 2>That's amazing. There should be a doc.

0:51:59.200 --> 0:52:02.799
<v Speaker 1>None of the players involved New Right Ad didn't know.

0:52:03.200 --> 0:52:05.720
<v Speaker 1>Luca Lebron apparently was out to dinner with his family

0:52:05.760 --> 0:52:06.520
<v Speaker 1>when he found out.

0:52:07.160 --> 0:52:09.680
<v Speaker 3>It's a lot like fantasy trades, when like a trade

0:52:09.719 --> 0:52:12.200
<v Speaker 3>happens and you have other managers being like, we could

0:52:12.280 --> 0:52:15.840
<v Speaker 3>have topped that offer, like that was legitags.

0:52:16.120 --> 0:52:20.880
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's exactly what that is, absolutely absolutely wild. In fact,

0:52:21.480 --> 0:52:25.600
<v Speaker 1>just before we started recording this pod, the Luca introductory

0:52:25.640 --> 0:52:29.560
<v Speaker 1>press conference was happening in Los Angeles. The I mean

0:52:29.600 --> 0:52:33.680
<v Speaker 1>just photos of him with the the purple and gold

0:52:33.960 --> 0:52:35.240
<v Speaker 1>seventy seven jersey.

0:52:37.280 --> 0:52:39.440
<v Speaker 2>He's not to seventy, by the way, there's no way

0:52:39.560 --> 0:52:40.439
<v Speaker 2>you know what that is.

0:52:40.320 --> 0:52:43.480
<v Speaker 3>Though, right, like the whole Oh, he's overweight, he's to seventy.

0:52:43.560 --> 0:52:44.800
<v Speaker 2>He doesn't he's not committed.

0:52:44.840 --> 0:52:47.200
<v Speaker 1>And that's Dallas try to justify what they did.

0:52:47.320 --> 0:52:49.440
<v Speaker 2>Yep, it's Lamar can't stay healthy.

0:52:49.600 --> 0:52:52.080
<v Speaker 3>Running quarterbacks get hurt. Remember when no one wanted to

0:52:52.080 --> 0:52:53.160
<v Speaker 3>pay Lamar two years ago?

0:52:53.320 --> 0:52:55.360
<v Speaker 2>Like, yeah, that's all this is. It's saving face.

0:52:56.160 --> 0:53:00.880
<v Speaker 1>It's the Mavericks trying to play cya and and explain

0:53:01.000 --> 0:53:03.719
<v Speaker 1>why it is that they traded a generational talent. Of

0:53:03.800 --> 0:53:06.120
<v Speaker 1>all the weird, wild things about this trade, the one

0:53:06.200 --> 0:53:08.600
<v Speaker 1>thing that broke my wife was looking at a picture

0:53:08.640 --> 0:53:10.839
<v Speaker 1>of Luca and learning that he was twenty five years old.

0:53:13.160 --> 0:53:14.759
<v Speaker 1>She's like, she's like, what do you mean twenty five?

0:53:14.760 --> 0:53:16.360
<v Speaker 1>And like he's twenty five years old? She said, no,

0:53:16.400 --> 0:53:18.280
<v Speaker 1>you mean like thirty five. Like, no, he is twenty

0:53:18.280 --> 0:53:18.879
<v Speaker 1>five years old.

0:53:22.600 --> 0:53:24.280
<v Speaker 2>I couldn't look at him and say that either.

0:53:24.360 --> 0:53:27.080
<v Speaker 1>I was like, that is the thing that of all

0:53:27.160 --> 0:53:29.359
<v Speaker 1>the things that happened, that's the one that broke my wife.

0:53:30.880 --> 0:53:33.200
<v Speaker 2>Well, she's a Laker fan, right, she should be happy.

0:53:33.080 --> 0:53:36.400
<v Speaker 1>She's a Lebron fan. But okay, she did admit she's like,

0:53:36.440 --> 0:53:37.960
<v Speaker 1>you know, she's like I kind of phone off watching

0:53:38.000 --> 0:53:41.399
<v Speaker 1>the Lakers lately, like I'm back in. She's like, I'm

0:53:41.440 --> 0:53:42.680
<v Speaker 1>back watching the Lakers again.

0:53:42.800 --> 0:53:46.000
<v Speaker 3>They went from having literally once Lebron walked away, they

0:53:46.000 --> 0:53:49.320
<v Speaker 3>were gonna have probably the roughest decade in franchise history.

0:53:49.480 --> 0:53:52.759
<v Speaker 3>And now you would trade maybe two teams future for there,

0:53:52.920 --> 0:53:54.759
<v Speaker 3>like you would take two teams future over theres Like

0:53:54.760 --> 0:53:55.760
<v Speaker 3>it's crazy.

0:53:55.760 --> 0:53:59.560
<v Speaker 1>That is it so uh fun times one time and

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<v Speaker 1>it's why that the NBA stole even a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>of shine from the NFL leading up to Super Bowl

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<v Speaker 1>week just wild.

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<v Speaker 2>You know what if it was if the Bills were

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<v Speaker 2>in there, that might be different.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna go with No, I'm gonna go with Bill.

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<v Speaker 2>Everyone's fired up right now? Oh yeah, yeah, Look, me

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<v Speaker 2>and Floria will be the front man.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and by everyone we mean sixty seven percent of

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<v Speaker 1>this show. We will, of course, preview Super Bowl fifty

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<v Speaker 1>nine coming up on our show on Thursday. We'll finish

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<v Speaker 1>our exit interviews as well, so stick around for that.

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<v Speaker 1>Should be a whole lot of fun. But in the meantime,

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<v Speaker 1>that'll do it for this edition of the NFL Fantasy

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<v Speaker 1>Football Podcast. They happy, safe and healthy, do good and

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<v Speaker 1>live well, Enjoy the day is everybody, and we'll talk

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<v Speaker 1>to you again on Thursday.

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<v Speaker 4>Wow, I'm a ghost.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't help book as a whole