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Speaker 1: Wow, Hey everybody, It's Tuesday, February fourth, twenty twenty five.

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Speaker 1: Welcome to the NFL Fantasy Football Podcast. We're big DIY

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Speaker 1: guys to be your rand MG Marcus grand Joy by

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Speaker 1: Michael F. Florio and Lakwan Jones. Are you guys? I mean

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Speaker 1: I say this. I basically put these things in there

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Speaker 1: because it applies to how I'm feeling in any given moment.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if either of you are actually DIY guys.

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Speaker 2: I love it, No, why not.

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Speaker 3: I'll do some stuff myself, but like once you get

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Speaker 3: past a certain point, I'm like, yeah, I can't do this.

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Speaker 1: I replaced the front door handle this morning. I'm like, hoday, yeah.

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Speaker 2: I've done that a couple of times. Nice. Nice. I

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Speaker 2: replaced the belt on my washer at my old house, so.

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Speaker 3: Okay, yeah see yeah see I'm like, yeah, maybe I

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Speaker 3: could change a door handle a little quons Like I

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Speaker 3: just take a a my dryer and putting back together,

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Speaker 3: like it's like it's nothing.

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Speaker 2: As a mechanic, I know labor and how much they upcharge,

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Speaker 2: and I'm like, I'm not paying this dude one hundred

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Speaker 2: and fifty bucks to come to my house or something

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Speaker 2: that I could just look up on YouTube and do myself.

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Speaker 2: It's all nuts and bolts at the end of the day.

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Speaker 2: That's one of the greatest things I learned as a

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Speaker 2: mechanic in my early years. It's like it's all nuhing

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Speaker 2: bolts at the end of the day. It's all ball bearings,

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Speaker 2: all ball bearings.

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Speaker 1: These days. Anyway, we're still doing our exit interviews. We've

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Speaker 1: got picks twenty five through twenty eight, and I mean

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Speaker 1: we're actually finish about this week. No surprise there if

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Speaker 1: you've been following along. But also a little bit of

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Speaker 1: trade news, not necessarily NFL trade news, but a trade

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Speaker 1: that certainly shook all of the sports world over the weekend.

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Speaker 1: We'll dive into that from an NFL perspective, but I

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Speaker 1: want to start with some news headlines because a lot

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Speaker 1: going on news wise, and I guess we have to

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Speaker 1: start with the moment of silence for the Kwan in

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Speaker 1: the Los Angeles Ran Cooper Cup announced on social media

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Speaker 1: on Monday that the Rams have informed him that they

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Speaker 1: are seeking to trade him immediately. I mean, this is

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Speaker 1: a guy who took the league by storm after getting

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Speaker 1: drafted in twenty seventeen out of Eastern Washington. He's a

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Speaker 1: Super Bowl MVP. He's a wide receiving triple crown winner. Lakwan,

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Speaker 1: how much in your feelings are you right now? And

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Speaker 1: if you can get out of your feelings? What does

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Speaker 1: this mean from an actual football perspective.

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Speaker 2: I'm in the fields last night. You know, I started

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Speaker 2: watching all his highlights from twenty seventeen all the way

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Speaker 2: up into this season, and like, I spent a good

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Speaker 2: amount of time just like embracing all the memories and

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Speaker 2: stuff that you know he's done for us and everything

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Speaker 2: that you know he put on the field, I mean,

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Speaker 2: his accomplishments. She went over him is just one of

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Speaker 2: the things, Like I remember the dark days of being

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Speaker 2: a Rams fan, Like it was one of those things

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Speaker 2: that like you're living week to week on each win,

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Speaker 2: like you're winning six to seven, eight and eight games,

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Speaker 2: and like you're excited for that. And then when you

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Speaker 2: get a guy like Cooper Cup in his first year

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Speaker 2: hit the ground running. He's mcvay's guy. You remember McVeigh

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Speaker 2: and Lesnie's excitement when they got him. And I was

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Speaker 2: actually at that draft in Philly when we selected him,

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Speaker 2: because you know, I had to go on day two

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Speaker 2: because we didn't have first round picks. But it's like

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Speaker 2: one of those things like you have your favorite running back,

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Speaker 2: Stephen Jackson announcing his name and it's like Cooper Cup

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Speaker 2: and you're like, who is this guy? But all those

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Speaker 2: you know, personally, just not being able to say Coop

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Speaker 2: It hasn't hit me yet though, But you got poo,

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Speaker 2: you just signed Mari Cooper. No no, no.

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Speaker 1: I remember, you know, that year and watching his tape

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Speaker 1: out of Eastern Washington and really seeing him pop, right,

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Speaker 1: And he had a couple of games against some power fights.

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Speaker 1: I think they played Washington State, I believe, well his

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Speaker 1: and I just remember like, this guy looks really really good,

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Speaker 1: wherever he went. Never thought he would do what he

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Speaker 1: that's wild is you go back a Cooper Cup only

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Speaker 3: I think Cooper Cup and Pooka Nakula are similar in

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Speaker 3: the sense of you were not alone in feeling that Marcus.

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Speaker 3: Like a lot of people liked Cooper Cup, a lot

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Speaker 3: of people liked Pooka Nakula. But I do think as

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I will say that, like for McVeigh to come

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Speaker 2: around and he drafted Cuff and he was like, I

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Speaker 2: it went now. So it's like we just were wanting

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Speaker 2: got eight amazing seasons out of him, and like, I'm

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Speaker 2: just thankful that he brung back the passion and spirit

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Speaker 2: to be a ramp. Like you guys don't understand how

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Speaker 2: dark it was, like me arguing, eyes read to my face. Man,

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Speaker 2: I'm a Bills fan, but it's different when all your

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Speaker 2: like ready to fight my friends, Like, no, we beat

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Speaker 2: Like I know you guys remember when we did that

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Speaker 2: But like I'm still, like I would say optimistic.

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Speaker 3: I know, from a football standpoint, it would be bad

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Speaker 3: business to just say, oh, we're gonna let Cooper Cup

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Speaker 3: these years of working in an NFL network, any contract

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Speaker 2: Be restructured, reworked at all of that, like we've seen it. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: Maybe this is the fan in me and not like

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Speaker 3: the analysts, because the analyst knows that, like, yeah, the

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Speaker 3: there's something to seeing a franchise guy play only with

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Speaker 3: anywhere about the Bucks Cooper Cup feels like that kind

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Speaker 3: of guy for me, for the Rams, like he should

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Speaker 2: I know it's an outdated and it's.

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Speaker 3: More for other sports, like it's more of a baseball

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Speaker 3: something about a guy saying, like I am, I've only

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, it's just I don't even know if

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Speaker 1: it's a baseball thing anymore. I don't know that it's

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Speaker 1: rare when that happened. Tom Brady played for multiple teams. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: And I look, I say this to somebody who would

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Speaker 1: it's increasingly unlikely that that may happen.

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Speaker 2: She's so frustrating because like he is the Warriors, you know,

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Speaker 2: like like like, for another example for soccer, Messi, I

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Speaker 2: thought he was gonna die in Barcelona. I thought that

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Speaker 2: we are, now fast forward to MLS. He's he's on

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Speaker 3: I think it's a little different if the player is

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Speaker 2: No, like MESSI lived and breathed like this is like

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Speaker 2: Derek Jeter of soccer, Like you thought he was gonna

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Speaker 2: Like I have a PSG messy jersey that's number thirty.

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Speaker 2: It looks disgusting. I don't wear it often because it's

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Speaker 2: like my son's and messi jersey looks better with his

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Speaker 3: Man, Dude, Cooper cupping the Patriots jersey next year is

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Speaker 1: Also, the flaw in your argument there, Lakwan, is that

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Speaker 1: MESSI unlike Jeters? Not overrated?

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Speaker 2: Yes, yes, overrated Jeters.

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Speaker 1: Moving on, Miles Garrett apparently is not gonna finish his

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Speaker 1: He has requested a trade after eight seasons with the Browns,

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Speaker 1: sounding citing a desire to win. This was sort of

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Speaker 1: I mean coming for a while, Flory, I mean we'd

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Speaker 1: And I'm filibustering here as you pull the Bill's helmet

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Speaker 2: Here Miles Garrett's next team, Baby.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna say, like, this is your your chance to

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Speaker 1: make a pitch for why Miles Garrett should be a

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Speaker 3: He said his number one reason is he has a

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Speaker 3: it's that they don't want to just go sign with

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Speaker 3: the Chiefs and win, so come to the team that's

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Speaker 3: been closest but cannot get over the home And the

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Speaker 3: biggest reason is, like and I've said him many times,

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Speaker 3: the Bill's playoffs, especially that D line tends to crumble

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Speaker 3: against the Chiefs in the playoffs. You put Miles Garrett

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Speaker 3: two guys. You put them on that Bills D line.

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Speaker 3: We're talking about the Bills beat in the super Bowl

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Speaker 3: right now. I believe Josh Allen needs is Chris Jones,

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Speaker 3: Stafford had Aaron Donald.

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Speaker 2: There's always that.

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Speaker 3: One elite player on both sides of the ball. The

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Speaker 3: Bills haven't had that. This is their chance. All I

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Speaker 3: want this offseason is for one of those two defensive

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Speaker 1: I mean, look, this is obviously a game changer, certainly,

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Speaker 1: and I know we don't talk a ton about individual

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Speaker 1: fantasy football show and it's more offensive centric. This is

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Speaker 1: a game changer. I mean, Miles Garrett I always say

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Speaker 1: he's like a real life Avenger when you watch him play.

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Speaker 2: He was made in a lab, not traditionally how people

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Speaker 1: I make the NFC East really really interesting if that

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Speaker 1: You talk about Chip Kelly in his college career, and

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Speaker 1: Two out of six man, two years out of six.

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Speaker 2: I know.

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Speaker 3: I it called a hater for this, but Taylor and

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Speaker 2: All right, you know got out to them.

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Speaker 1: Zach Taylor stood next to Sean McVay for twenty minutes

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Speaker 3: I forget what offseason it was, but it was one

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Speaker 2: It was why Thomas Brown he should be on his

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so again, Nick Kayleey part of that that coaching tree.

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Speaker 2: Weird. Yeah, how quick he turned into the ugliest girl

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Speaker 1: Life comes at you fast, which actually is a perfect

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Speaker 1: five through twenty eight, and number twenty five is the

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Speaker 1: Houston Texans who went ten and seven this past year.

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Speaker 2: Went right.

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Speaker 1: Joe Mixon, who looked like he was gonna just be

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Speaker 1: pretty good season, over one thousand rushing yards, over three

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Speaker 1: Only played twelve games, but sixty eight catches, thousand and

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Speaker 1: Lakwan is Nico Collins an elite fantasy receiver. Yet I

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Speaker 1: we're talking Jamar Chase, We're talking Justin Jefferson. You know,

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Speaker 2: It's just that A gotta stay healthy. B They need

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Speaker 2: So it's like he can he's looking up at that

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Speaker 2: just that some things around him are just out of

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Speaker 1: Floyd, where are you drafting him? I mean, are we

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Speaker 3: I'm thinking first to be honest, but I am someone

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Speaker 3: like Lakwan said, the elite of the elite, I Jamar Chase, Justin, Jefferson,

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Speaker 2: That's sixth right there.

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Speaker 3: Like, I think it'll be like Nico, maybe Malik Neighbors,

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Speaker 2: That'll be like the late first, early second round wide receivers.

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Speaker 2: And I think it'll be a preference thing.

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Speaker 3: Like there'll be some drafts where if I'm in that room,

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Speaker 1: You're just you know, obviously Tank Dell in that injury

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Speaker 1: which obviously gets us the sort of what went sideways here?

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Speaker 1: fifty nine. Dalton Schultz underachieved tight end twenty. But maybe

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Speaker 1: And we went into the last season not sure which

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Speaker 1: front of him, or maybe did we crown him a

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Speaker 1: little bit too early.

437
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Speaker 3: I think everything broke right for him as a rookie

438
00:21:01,160 --> 00:21:05,040
Speaker 3: efficiency wise, especially, and we crowned him a little too early.

439
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Speaker 3: I also don't think he's this guy we saw in

440
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Speaker 3: year two. I think the truth is somewhere in the middle.

441
00:21:11,520 --> 00:21:14,280
Speaker 3: But to your play, everyone is gonna say all the

442
00:21:14,280 --> 00:21:16,520
Speaker 3: Texans a line was was really bad, and it was.

443
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Speaker 3: I'm not saying it wasn't. But like when you compare CJ.

444
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Speaker 3: Stroud's numbers under pressure this past year to his rookie year,

445
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Speaker 3: it's not all that different.

446
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Speaker 2: The stats are pretty similar.

447
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Speaker 3: Where to me, the biggest falloff was was on the

448
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Speaker 3: deep ball.

449
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Speaker 2: Like CJ.

450
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Speaker 3: Stroud went from his rookie year being i would say

451
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Speaker 3: the best deep ball thrower in the NFL to one

452
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Speaker 3: of the worst like As a rookie, his passer rating

453
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Speaker 3: on deep balls was one hundred and forty two point eight.

454
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Speaker 3: As a sophomore it was fifty two point nine. His

455
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Speaker 3: completion percentage was almost cut in half. The yards per

456
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Speaker 3: tentpt was down everything, like the yards despite having more attempts.

457
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Speaker 3: The yards were down almost four hundred yards to touch

458
00:22:00,000 --> 00:22:02,520
Speaker 3: stounds were cutting half. He threw way more inner city

459
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Speaker 3: zero interceptions on deep balls as a rookie six last

460
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Speaker 3: year as a sophomore, so I think I do think

461
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Speaker 3: he could get closer to that rookie year guy. The

462
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Speaker 3: deep ball is obviously going to be a factor, but

463
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Speaker 3: I do think it was one of those situations where,

464
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Speaker 3: like efficiency, just he caught everyone off guard that that

465
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Speaker 3: deep ball was working for him as a rookie. He

466
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Speaker 3: could get better as a junior, but I'm not sure

467
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Speaker 3: he's ever gonna be We're gonna be saying like he's

468
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Speaker 3: the best deep all thrower in the NFL like we

469
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Speaker 3: were after his rookie year.

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Speaker 1: I mean, it is wild how the gap between he

471
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Speaker 1: and Bryce Young closed quite a bit by the end

472
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Speaker 1: of the year, right, I mean, wow, at the end

473
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Speaker 1: of year one, it was well CJ. Shroud obviously was

474
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Speaker 1: was the pick, right. CJ. Shroud was the pick. Texans

475
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Speaker 1: got this one right, and then by the end of

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Speaker 1: the year two, it's like, alright, yeah, maybe let's let's

477
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Speaker 1: let's open this case again. Let's let's let's evaluate a

478
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Speaker 1: little bit further. So the one thing we all know,

479
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Speaker 1: the draft price on CJ. Stroud is going to be

480
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Speaker 1: a lot more manageable this year than it was last year.

481
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Speaker 2: Yeah, is he a QB one?

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Speaker 4: You think?

483
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Speaker 2: No? No, no, no, sir.

484
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Speaker 1: He could eventually work his way back to that, but

485
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Speaker 1: he's definitely not drafted as a QB one.

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Speaker 2: Him and Brace Young are on the same eye level

487
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Speaker 2: right now. For me when it comes to that, is

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Speaker 2: that a short joke? I was gonna say, there's a

489
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Speaker 2: pum there. I can make sure jokes because but uh, yeah,

490
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Speaker 2: I can't. I can't see myself take him as my

491
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Speaker 2: QB one and feel confident about that. Yeah, no, I'm

492
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Speaker 2: with you. Uh.

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Speaker 1: Let's move on to pick number twenty six, which belongs

494
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Speaker 1: to the Los Angeles Rams. Kyron Williams had himself a

495
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Speaker 1: year nearly thirteen hundred rushing yards fourteen rushing touchdowns. He

496
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Speaker 1: was the RB seven. Pukakua continues to be great and

497
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Speaker 1: in his first two years in the league, he only

498
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Speaker 1: played eleven games, but seventy nine catches nine hundred and

499
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Speaker 1: ninety yards was the wide receiver twenty one. So I

500
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Speaker 1: didn't ask you this. We talked about the the you know,

501
00:23:59,200 --> 00:24:03,040
Speaker 1: Cooper Cup fread issue, Lakwan, but you had said this before.

502
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Speaker 1: If Cooper Cup wasn't there, Pooka's your one dot oh one.

503
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Speaker 1: Are you prepared to make Pooka your one dot one

504
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Speaker 1: right now?

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Speaker 2: Yes, one hundred percent. I don't think they could bring

506
00:24:14,040 --> 00:24:16,760
Speaker 2: anybody in that can match Cooper Cup's pass production. So

507
00:24:16,840 --> 00:24:19,639
Speaker 2: it's like we're gonna be seeing a heavy, bunneled then

508
00:24:19,760 --> 00:24:22,320
Speaker 2: hyper focused Pookin Nakoula as long as he stays healthy.

509
00:24:22,400 --> 00:24:24,640
Speaker 2: There is risk in that at the one O one,

510
00:24:24,720 --> 00:24:27,359
Speaker 2: but there's risk with every single player with injury. So

511
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Speaker 2: therefore I'm just taking that out of the bag, like

512
00:24:29,680 --> 00:24:32,560
Speaker 2: I'm ready to just hit submit, enter, whatever the case

513
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Speaker 2: may be. On whatever draft platform we got, it's gonna

514
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Speaker 2: be Pooka Nakoua because honestly, the talent's there. Air Pooka

515
00:24:38,000 --> 00:24:39,679
Speaker 2: is what they call on him. So being that he

516
00:24:39,840 --> 00:24:42,480
Speaker 2: has the heart to be that alpha wide receiver one

517
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Speaker 2: and handle that workload while pushing down a Cooper cup

518
00:24:45,960 --> 00:24:48,960
Speaker 2: declining production. There's nothing else that I need to sell

519
00:24:48,960 --> 00:24:51,320
Speaker 2: anybody onto. Why I believe that he could be one

520
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Speaker 2: on one.

521
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Speaker 1: Is this contingent on Matthew Stafford coming back.

522
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Speaker 2: Matthew Stafford is coming back. I feel very confident about

523
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Speaker 2: that because there's no answer as a backup in the

524
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Speaker 2: draft this year or in free agency unless we get

525
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Speaker 2: Kirk Cousins on some type of you know, restructure deal

526
00:25:05,960 --> 00:25:07,879
Speaker 2: and he comes in and takes over the keys. But

527
00:25:07,960 --> 00:25:10,760
Speaker 2: that's still same, same but different, but still the same.

528
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Speaker 1: To me, it feels like kirk Cousins maybe not a doubt,

529
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Speaker 1: Maybe it isn't slight down grade. I mean just from

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Speaker 1: where Stafford is.

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Speaker 2: Like, to me, that's a comfort move, like the previous

532
00:25:22,359 --> 00:25:24,880
Speaker 2: history of McVeigh. Okay, he could be a McVeigh guy,

533
00:25:24,920 --> 00:25:26,960
Speaker 2: but then is he going to get his past a hump?

534
00:25:27,040 --> 00:25:28,440
Speaker 2: Is he as good as Matthew Stafford?

535
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Speaker 1: No?

536
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Speaker 2: But I just feel as though that's a slight, a

537
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Speaker 2: slight downgrade. You know, if we go from Stafford to

538
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Speaker 2: kirk Cousins, I.

539
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Speaker 1: Wouldn't do that no, Heaven's no.

540
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Speaker 2: Did you guys watch Kirk Cousins play football this year?

541
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Speaker 2: Like I actually, I actually watched Kirk Cousins interview this

542
00:25:43,680 --> 00:25:46,320
Speaker 2: morning and Good Morning Football. Apparently he had an ankle injury,

543
00:25:46,359 --> 00:25:49,639
Speaker 2: an elbow injury and a shoulder injury and trying to

544
00:25:49,680 --> 00:25:50,880
Speaker 2: keep the Achilles intact.

545
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Speaker 3: So Aaron Rodgers is playing the same card, like, not

546
00:25:54,400 --> 00:25:56,920
Speaker 3: only was I coming back from Achilles at an advanced

547
00:25:56,960 --> 00:25:59,159
Speaker 3: age I had, I was in a body cast and

548
00:25:59,240 --> 00:26:02,200
Speaker 3: no one knew it until after the Like maybe it's

549
00:26:02,240 --> 00:26:03,600
Speaker 3: maybe it's all factual.

550
00:26:04,400 --> 00:26:06,440
Speaker 2: I am not risking my Super Bowl.

551
00:26:06,240 --> 00:26:09,680
Speaker 3: Window on that, you know, Like I think Kirk Cousins

552
00:26:09,720 --> 00:26:13,320
Speaker 3: should firmly be a backup moving forward and maybe or

553
00:26:13,359 --> 00:26:15,040
Speaker 3: maybe he goes somewhere where he could battle for a

554
00:26:15,119 --> 00:26:18,320
Speaker 3: camp or whatever. I think, just like we're saying with

555
00:26:18,359 --> 00:26:20,240
Speaker 3: Aaron Rodgers, like where is he going to start next year?

556
00:26:20,280 --> 00:26:22,760
Speaker 2: Like like I don't know. My eyes don't lie to me.

557
00:26:22,840 --> 00:26:25,000
Speaker 2: I watched Kirk Cousins play and it was brutal.

558
00:26:25,520 --> 00:26:27,760
Speaker 1: It was rough. It was for sure rough. And if

559
00:26:27,800 --> 00:26:29,800
Speaker 1: I'm the Rams, like you've got a good thing with Stafford,

560
00:26:29,840 --> 00:26:32,080
Speaker 1: I wouldn't. I wouldn't toss that aside to try and

561
00:26:32,119 --> 00:26:33,280
Speaker 1: start over with Kirk Cousins.

562
00:26:33,680 --> 00:26:37,719
Speaker 2: No, we need him, Like, come on, I'm feeling optimistic

563
00:26:37,760 --> 00:26:40,280
Speaker 2: next season, maybe this season after that. Don't don't rip

564
00:26:40,320 --> 00:26:42,359
Speaker 2: my heart out, Like, no, don't do that.

565
00:26:42,440 --> 00:26:44,720
Speaker 3: I will say, look, I didn't understand the whole, like

566
00:26:44,800 --> 00:26:47,160
Speaker 3: Stafford's coming back, but will it be Like if he's

567
00:26:47,200 --> 00:26:51,680
Speaker 3: coming back, you guys just say okay, like welcome back

568
00:26:51,680 --> 00:26:52,360
Speaker 3: for another year.

569
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Speaker 2: Like ten minutes after our lossing is to Eagles, they're

570
00:26:56,000 --> 00:26:58,440
Speaker 2: like every single year they try to retire. I don't

571
00:26:58,440 --> 00:27:00,240
Speaker 2: know why media does that, Like he's look, can you

572
00:27:00,280 --> 00:27:02,320
Speaker 2: be like why are you saying this? Like, yeah, I

573
00:27:02,359 --> 00:27:03,560
Speaker 2: still have football left.

574
00:27:03,760 --> 00:27:06,359
Speaker 1: Because he's thirty six years old, has taking a beating

575
00:27:06,400 --> 00:27:07,040
Speaker 1: in his career.

576
00:27:07,119 --> 00:27:10,440
Speaker 2: That's why I already made my case. When you look

577
00:27:10,480 --> 00:27:14,320
Speaker 2: a dog in him, it's a picture of Matthew Stafford

578
00:27:14,320 --> 00:27:16,960
Speaker 2: where that was created. There's no way age is playing

579
00:27:17,000 --> 00:27:18,840
Speaker 2: a factor with him in his head and he still

580
00:27:18,840 --> 00:27:21,760
Speaker 2: thinks he can go out there and play into his forties.

581
00:27:21,800 --> 00:27:26,240
Speaker 2: That's really what he's believing. Guys. Kirk Cousins is six

582
00:27:26,320 --> 00:27:30,879
Speaker 2: months younger than Matthew Stafford, and he's comfortable for Stenson.

583
00:27:30,920 --> 00:27:33,720
Speaker 3: Bennett is two years younger than Matthew Stafford.

584
00:27:33,880 --> 00:27:37,640
Speaker 2: Like, hey, we bring up Ben in projects.

585
00:27:37,680 --> 00:27:39,800
Speaker 1: So the question is that that question should then be

586
00:27:39,840 --> 00:27:43,159
Speaker 1: asked of Sean McVay and Less Snead, who still have

587
00:27:43,320 --> 00:27:46,560
Speaker 1: yet to formulate a plan for life after Stafford. I

588
00:27:46,560 --> 00:27:48,280
Speaker 1: don't care how much dog you got in you, father,

589
00:27:48,359 --> 00:27:49,520
Speaker 1: time comes for all of us.

590
00:27:50,080 --> 00:27:52,200
Speaker 2: I think that's the one slight that I have against

591
00:27:52,280 --> 00:27:54,600
Speaker 2: McVeigh and less Snead. We didn't plan properly at the

592
00:27:54,640 --> 00:27:57,399
Speaker 2: quarterback position, like the d line, the secondary, you know,

593
00:27:57,480 --> 00:28:00,159
Speaker 2: the running back, Like we hit on all cylinders, but

594
00:28:00,200 --> 00:28:03,160
Speaker 2: we have yet to bring in a quarterback that can

595
00:28:03,200 --> 00:28:06,360
Speaker 2: really take the mantle. Because honestly, it's like, all right,

596
00:28:06,400 --> 00:28:09,200
Speaker 2: we're looking at the clock. You know who two years left,

597
00:28:09,240 --> 00:28:11,239
Speaker 2: you know, like that's gonna be here before we know it.

598
00:28:11,440 --> 00:28:14,040
Speaker 1: Also, happy early thirty seventh birthday to Matthew Stafford. He

599
00:28:14,040 --> 00:28:15,400
Speaker 1: turns thirty seven on Friday.

600
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Speaker 3: They I don't think you need unless you're drafting a

601
00:28:20,160 --> 00:28:22,960
Speaker 3: rookie quarterback. This doesn't seem like a we're gonna have

602
00:28:23,000 --> 00:28:25,400
Speaker 3: a quarterback waiting in the like it seems like when

603
00:28:25,400 --> 00:28:29,320
Speaker 3: Matthew Stafford eventually retires, Sean McVay is just like, who

604
00:28:29,359 --> 00:28:31,840
Speaker 3: wants to be the next one to get.

605
00:28:31,560 --> 00:28:34,200
Speaker 2: All of the benefits of leading my offense? And someone

606
00:28:34,240 --> 00:28:38,240
Speaker 2: will come listen, I have PTSD being that I had

607
00:28:38,240 --> 00:28:40,720
Speaker 2: to watch football being played with Sam Braffner on the

608
00:28:40,800 --> 00:28:44,120
Speaker 2: sideline tearing his acl with Sean Hill, with Austin Davis

609
00:28:44,120 --> 00:28:47,040
Speaker 2: went bad, Nick Fole, Like, I am so scared to

610
00:28:47,040 --> 00:28:50,120
Speaker 2: go back to those dark hours that I literally probably

611
00:28:50,160 --> 00:28:51,200
Speaker 2: will not watch football.

612
00:28:51,520 --> 00:28:53,920
Speaker 3: I'm going to call you out, LaQuan. You keep talking

613
00:28:53,960 --> 00:28:55,959
Speaker 3: about how scarred you are as a fan. You are

614
00:28:56,000 --> 00:28:57,720
Speaker 3: the only one of us who have seen a Super

615
00:28:57,720 --> 00:28:59,760
Speaker 3: Bowl in the last three decades.

616
00:29:00,000 --> 00:29:04,120
Speaker 2: This is true. This is true. Hey, hey, listen, I'm

617
00:29:04,120 --> 00:29:06,440
Speaker 2: actually happy. You know, the Chiefs were kind enough to

618
00:29:06,520 --> 00:29:08,400
Speaker 2: us to step out and let us win one in

619
00:29:08,440 --> 00:29:10,480
Speaker 2: the middle of their dynasty run in Powerhouse.

620
00:29:10,520 --> 00:29:13,360
Speaker 3: So if anyone has suffered here, I don't know if

621
00:29:13,360 --> 00:29:14,160
Speaker 3: it's the Rams fan.

622
00:29:14,240 --> 00:29:15,000
Speaker 2: That's all I'm saying.

623
00:29:15,000 --> 00:29:20,080
Speaker 1: That's that's very true. That's very true. So you're violent away.

624
00:29:21,880 --> 00:29:23,800
Speaker 1: Let's take a break, take a break, come back dive,

625
00:29:23,840 --> 00:29:25,920
Speaker 1: and it's more of our exit interviews. We've got the

626
00:29:26,000 --> 00:29:27,920
Speaker 1: Ravens and the Lions, coming up next here on the

627
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Speaker 1: NFL Fantasy Football Podcast. Pick number twenty seven belongs to

628
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Speaker 1: the Baltimore Ravens who were twelve and five this past

629
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Speaker 1: year and the things that went right no surprise Lamar Jackson,

630
00:29:39,840 --> 00:29:44,120
Speaker 1: who right now still a candidate for MVP. They have

631
00:29:44,160 --> 00:29:46,600
Speaker 1: not yet announced the award. They'll announce that on Saturday

632
00:29:46,680 --> 00:29:50,120
Speaker 1: at NFL Honors. With Lamar over forty one hundred passing

633
00:29:50,200 --> 00:29:52,960
Speaker 1: yards over nine hundred rushing yards, he finished as the

634
00:29:53,240 --> 00:29:57,040
Speaker 1: QB one and his partner in crime in the Baltimore

635
00:29:57,080 --> 00:30:00,360
Speaker 1: backfield Derek Henry, who was just shy of two thousand

636
00:30:00,440 --> 00:30:04,440
Speaker 1: rushing yards for the season sixteen rushing touchdowns, He was

637
00:30:04,480 --> 00:30:08,280
Speaker 1: the RB four. Zay Flowers had himself a nice season

638
00:30:09,080 --> 00:30:12,520
Speaker 1: over one thousand receiving yards for receiving touchdowns, he was

639
00:30:12,520 --> 00:30:16,160
Speaker 1: the wide receiver twenty two. Mark Andrews latter half of

640
00:30:16,200 --> 00:30:19,320
Speaker 1: the season went right. Mark Andrews early half of the

641
00:30:19,360 --> 00:30:23,120
Speaker 1: season went wrong. And I know we've talked about whether

642
00:30:23,200 --> 00:30:27,080
Speaker 1: or not the car accident that he suffered during the

643
00:30:27,120 --> 00:30:29,760
Speaker 1: preseason may have had an impact on him. But remember

644
00:30:30,240 --> 00:30:33,560
Speaker 1: after Week one, when Isaiah likely caught like eleveny balls,

645
00:30:33,600 --> 00:30:35,640
Speaker 1: we were all like it's over. It's a wrap for

646
00:30:35,760 --> 00:30:38,960
Speaker 1: Mark Andrews. The year started badly for Mark Andrews. The

647
00:30:39,000 --> 00:30:42,120
Speaker 1: year ended poorly for Mark Andrews, but in between he

648
00:30:42,160 --> 00:30:44,960
Speaker 1: did find a little bit of redemption there. But I

649
00:30:44,960 --> 00:30:49,120
Speaker 1: guess I beg's the question. I'll ask this of you, Flora,

650
00:30:49,160 --> 00:30:52,280
Speaker 1: since your team sort of benefited from his foibles there

651
00:30:52,280 --> 00:30:55,720
Speaker 1: at the end of the season. Is Mark Andrews still

652
00:30:55,800 --> 00:30:58,960
Speaker 1: a he finishes the tight end six? Is he still

653
00:30:59,000 --> 00:31:01,520
Speaker 1: a top five tight Are we drafting him as such

654
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Speaker 1: next year?

655
00:31:03,520 --> 00:31:08,400
Speaker 3: I think so because the tight end position is so ugly.

656
00:31:09,120 --> 00:31:12,920
Speaker 3: I like, so after there's the top two in Bowers

657
00:31:13,120 --> 00:31:17,120
Speaker 3: and McBride. Obviously, I think Kittle goes in front of him.

658
00:31:17,160 --> 00:31:20,880
Speaker 3: I think Sam Laporta goes in front of him. After that, though,

659
00:31:21,720 --> 00:31:23,560
Speaker 3: it then becomes like a pre like I think you

660
00:31:23,560 --> 00:31:25,520
Speaker 3: can make the case for Andrews. You can make the

661
00:31:25,600 --> 00:31:29,720
Speaker 3: case for like maybe Kelsey or Hockinson or in Djoku.

662
00:31:29,880 --> 00:31:33,960
Speaker 3: But like, I think the fact that Andrews is who

663
00:31:34,000 --> 00:31:35,800
Speaker 3: he is and has been as good as he has

664
00:31:35,880 --> 00:31:38,560
Speaker 3: been for years, and even more than that, the quarterback

665
00:31:38,600 --> 00:31:41,000
Speaker 3: and the offense that he is tied to, I think

666
00:31:41,080 --> 00:31:43,160
Speaker 3: people will see and something you talk about a lot

667
00:31:43,200 --> 00:31:45,440
Speaker 3: Marcus like muscle memory. I think people will see the

668
00:31:45,520 --> 00:31:47,800
Speaker 3: name Mark Andrews after like the other four tight ends

669
00:31:47,840 --> 00:31:49,560
Speaker 3: are off the board and be like, this is my

670
00:31:49,640 --> 00:31:51,160
Speaker 3: last chance to get one of the top guys.

671
00:31:51,360 --> 00:31:53,360
Speaker 2: And I still think he'll he'll get drafted as one.

672
00:31:54,200 --> 00:31:56,600
Speaker 1: Lakwan Lamar Jackson. Is he your QB one? Have you

673
00:31:56,720 --> 00:31:58,640
Speaker 1: have you declared a QB one for this year? I

674
00:31:58,640 --> 00:31:59,440
Speaker 1: don't even know if you have.

675
00:32:00,440 --> 00:32:03,360
Speaker 2: I have not. Actually, I mean that that's actually one

676
00:32:03,360 --> 00:32:04,959
Speaker 2: of the things that I probably have to get on.

677
00:32:05,040 --> 00:32:08,120
Speaker 2: I mean, I feel though if you do make him

678
00:32:08,160 --> 00:32:10,520
Speaker 2: your QB one, it's based on Todd Monk and you know,

679
00:32:10,600 --> 00:32:13,560
Speaker 2: basically returning, you're hoping that he can basically mirror what

680
00:32:13,600 --> 00:32:16,680
Speaker 2: he did this season, putting up the most Fantasy points

681
00:32:16,720 --> 00:32:18,680
Speaker 2: ever you know, by a player. So I feel like,

682
00:32:18,960 --> 00:32:22,800
Speaker 2: you know, he could still be that elite quarterback next season,

683
00:32:22,960 --> 00:32:25,200
Speaker 2: even if you know they watch tape and try to

684
00:32:25,440 --> 00:32:28,240
Speaker 2: stop him and whatever that offense is. But he's he's

685
00:32:28,320 --> 00:32:30,440
Speaker 2: up there. I wouldn't argue if somebody today was like, yeah,

686
00:32:30,480 --> 00:32:32,480
Speaker 2: he's my QB one twenty twenty five. I think it's

687
00:32:32,480 --> 00:32:33,320
Speaker 2: a two man race.

688
00:32:33,880 --> 00:32:36,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, I feel like, there's not there's not gonna be

689
00:32:36,160 --> 00:32:38,640
Speaker 1: a cute There's gonna be a consensus, right, It's gonna

690
00:32:38,640 --> 00:32:40,920
Speaker 1: sort of be a preference. Do you like Josh Allen?

691
00:32:41,240 --> 00:32:44,080
Speaker 1: Do you like Lamar Jackson? I don't think there's a

692
00:32:44,120 --> 00:32:45,120
Speaker 1: wrong answer.

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00:32:45,800 --> 00:32:49,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think Lamar will be in consensus. I think

694
00:32:49,440 --> 00:32:51,920
Speaker 3: I do agree. I think it'll be very preference space.

695
00:32:52,000 --> 00:32:54,240
Speaker 3: But I just feel like Lamar is gonna go one

696
00:32:54,440 --> 00:32:56,080
Speaker 3: more often than Josh.

697
00:32:56,120 --> 00:32:56,600
Speaker 4: Probably.

698
00:32:57,520 --> 00:33:00,800
Speaker 1: That being said, then how are we feel about his

699
00:33:01,200 --> 00:33:04,960
Speaker 1: wide receivers Zay Flowers seventy four catches, one hundred and

700
00:33:05,040 --> 00:33:08,920
Speaker 1: sixteen targets, but even then, I don't know, Floride still

701
00:33:08,960 --> 00:33:16,800
Speaker 1: feels like a fourth fifth round wide receiver at best.

702
00:33:17,440 --> 00:33:20,360
Speaker 3: I'm not as high on Like I like Zay Flowers

703
00:33:20,440 --> 00:33:24,120
Speaker 3: as a talent as a real life player, but for

704
00:33:24,280 --> 00:33:28,440
Speaker 3: fantasy like last year, it was very up or down.

705
00:33:28,680 --> 00:33:32,520
Speaker 3: Like he had numerous games where where he'd give you

706
00:33:32,560 --> 00:33:35,160
Speaker 3: like really big yardage or he I mean he only

707
00:33:35,160 --> 00:33:38,760
Speaker 3: scored three four touchdowns I believe receiving last year. And

708
00:33:38,800 --> 00:33:40,440
Speaker 3: then like you look at his game logs, there's a

709
00:33:40,480 --> 00:33:42,760
Speaker 3: lot of games where it's like fifty yards or fewer.

710
00:33:43,240 --> 00:33:46,800
Speaker 3: So to me, yeah, I agree. I like him a

711
00:33:46,840 --> 00:33:48,280
Speaker 3: lot more if you get him as say, like a

712
00:33:48,320 --> 00:33:52,520
Speaker 3: wide receiver three. But I'm looking at like early rankings

713
00:33:52,600 --> 00:33:55,520
Speaker 3: right now, and they have him the names in the

714
00:33:55,520 --> 00:33:59,200
Speaker 3: tier with him or like Mike Evans, DJ Moore, Devonte Rashi,

715
00:33:59,360 --> 00:34:04,360
Speaker 3: Rice Courtland, Sutton Pickins, Metcalf. That feels right, but there's

716
00:34:04,440 --> 00:34:06,760
Speaker 3: names in there I would rather have than say Flowers.

717
00:34:07,440 --> 00:34:11,160
Speaker 1: Absolutely, yeah, And I think that's it's another argument to

718
00:34:11,480 --> 00:34:14,960
Speaker 1: have in the offseason, just the volatility of some guys

719
00:34:15,080 --> 00:34:18,080
Speaker 1: right where it's you look and you look at, hey,

720
00:34:18,160 --> 00:34:20,200
Speaker 1: why's hever twenty two? That's not bad, But then, as

721
00:34:20,239 --> 00:34:23,239
Speaker 1: you mentioned, the week to week is a little bit

722
00:34:23,760 --> 00:34:26,719
Speaker 1: of a different story with some of these guys where

723
00:34:26,760 --> 00:34:28,839
Speaker 1: you have those spike weeks that help you win a week,

724
00:34:28,880 --> 00:34:30,920
Speaker 1: and then there are the weeks where he just is

725
00:34:31,280 --> 00:34:32,560
Speaker 1: no help at all.

726
00:34:33,239 --> 00:34:35,360
Speaker 2: You're not adding in the headaches of when you're gonna

727
00:34:35,360 --> 00:34:37,759
Speaker 2: start him or not, like you can never guess when

728
00:34:37,800 --> 00:34:39,600
Speaker 2: the matchup is in his favor. It's one of those

729
00:34:39,640 --> 00:34:41,880
Speaker 2: things that it happens at random, and I'm not drafting

730
00:34:41,880 --> 00:34:43,920
Speaker 2: a wide receiver where you know on a week to

731
00:34:43,960 --> 00:34:45,920
Speaker 2: week basis at the wonder which week, I'm going to

732
00:34:45,960 --> 00:34:47,600
Speaker 2: put him in. If I'm drafting him in the first

733
00:34:47,680 --> 00:34:49,640
Speaker 2: three to four rounds, that sounds insane.

734
00:34:49,880 --> 00:34:52,560
Speaker 3: If I get that player in as my wide receiver

735
00:34:52,640 --> 00:34:54,800
Speaker 3: three in like round six, I'm cool with it because

736
00:34:54,800 --> 00:34:56,839
Speaker 3: there's gonna be some weeks where he just goes off

737
00:34:56,840 --> 00:34:59,200
Speaker 3: and wins me the week. But if I'm paying a

738
00:34:59,280 --> 00:35:02,560
Speaker 3: premium price, I need you to be like that anchor

739
00:35:02,640 --> 00:35:03,280
Speaker 3: for my team.

740
00:35:03,800 --> 00:35:06,360
Speaker 2: Like he's a wide receiver one on the offense, he

741
00:35:06,520 --> 00:35:10,200
Speaker 2: is a flexing fantasy Like there's no way every single

742
00:35:10,239 --> 00:35:13,360
Speaker 2: week start. Like I hear people talk about Zay Flowers

743
00:35:13,400 --> 00:35:16,080
Speaker 2: how electric is, Like I love watching him play, but

744
00:35:16,120 --> 00:35:18,759
Speaker 2: he will never enter my fantasy rosters as a guy

745
00:35:18,800 --> 00:35:20,600
Speaker 2: I will plug and play in on a week to

746
00:35:20,640 --> 00:35:23,560
Speaker 2: week basis. The tier behind him that like this is

747
00:35:23,560 --> 00:35:26,360
Speaker 2: on Fantasy Pros early rankings right now, the tier behind

748
00:35:26,440 --> 00:35:31,680
Speaker 2: him has like DeVonta Smith, Jordan Addison, chrys Olave, Brandon

749
00:35:31,760 --> 00:35:34,880
Speaker 2: Aiyuk like Romo Dunes, And I'm like that probably feels

750
00:35:34,880 --> 00:35:35,480
Speaker 2: like the tiers A.

751
00:35:35,560 --> 00:35:38,040
Speaker 1: Flowers belongs in which one of you was out on Alave.

752
00:35:38,120 --> 00:35:40,600
Speaker 1: It's u lu kwan, this is your just done.

753
00:35:40,719 --> 00:35:43,919
Speaker 2: Done, done done. I had been done, he falls into

754
00:35:43,960 --> 00:35:45,400
Speaker 2: that Trevor Lawrence hate bag that I have.

755
00:35:46,360 --> 00:35:49,440
Speaker 3: I've done if he goes where he's been going in drafts,

756
00:35:49,440 --> 00:35:51,000
Speaker 3: but if we get a discount on him, like I

757
00:35:51,000 --> 00:35:52,320
Speaker 3: could see myself buy it back.

758
00:35:52,200 --> 00:35:54,680
Speaker 2: In and and to be clear about my hate bag,

759
00:35:54,760 --> 00:35:56,800
Speaker 2: like I don't want people thinking that I hate these players,

760
00:35:56,800 --> 00:35:58,760
Speaker 2: but it's one of those things where the fantasy streets

761
00:35:58,760 --> 00:36:01,239
Speaker 2: makes me dislike them where their ADPs end up, and

762
00:36:01,239 --> 00:36:03,319
Speaker 2: then I'll overhype and you constantly hear it, and I'm

763
00:36:03,360 --> 00:36:04,880
Speaker 2: just sitting there as the guy in the corner in

764
00:36:04,920 --> 00:36:07,359
Speaker 2: the dark lake. Does nobody see what I see? Like

765
00:36:07,719 --> 00:36:09,520
Speaker 2: one of those moments, it's like, what are we doing?

766
00:36:09,719 --> 00:36:11,120
Speaker 1: Don't hate the player, hate the ADP.

767
00:36:11,840 --> 00:36:15,960
Speaker 3: There's a twenty player wide receiver gap between Zay Flowers

768
00:36:16,000 --> 00:36:18,839
Speaker 3: and Jaden Reid, and that seems crazy to me. They're

769
00:36:18,960 --> 00:36:20,080
Speaker 3: very similar players in my.

770
00:36:20,040 --> 00:36:23,360
Speaker 2: Opinion, if not the exact same, in the same situations

771
00:36:23,400 --> 00:36:24,880
Speaker 2: as well, Like I don't get.

772
00:36:24,719 --> 00:36:28,040
Speaker 1: It, except Jay Flowers has less competition in his offense

773
00:36:28,160 --> 00:36:32,000
Speaker 1: than Jayden Reid does and has Lamar Jackson and as

774
00:36:32,080 --> 00:36:36,040
Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson. So there's that big number twenty eight, our

775
00:36:36,080 --> 00:36:39,360
Speaker 1: last one for this episode is the Detroit Lions fifteen

776
00:36:39,520 --> 00:36:42,480
Speaker 1: AM two A phenomenal season, which I know for Detroit

777
00:36:42,520 --> 00:36:45,880
Speaker 1: fans maybe doesn't lessen the sting of the way things ended,

778
00:36:45,920 --> 00:36:50,239
Speaker 1: but nonetheless Jared Goff, Jared Goof, if you will, for

779
00:36:50,520 --> 00:36:52,960
Speaker 1: forty six hundred passing year, I did that exactly as

780
00:36:53,040 --> 00:36:54,960
Speaker 1: Lakwan was taking a sip of cranberry juice to see

781
00:36:54,960 --> 00:36:55,880
Speaker 1: if I can maybe spit.

782
00:36:55,719 --> 00:37:01,440
Speaker 2: It out because I didn't expect it right, thank you.

783
00:37:01,440 --> 00:37:04,520
Speaker 1: Following that, forty six hundred passing yards, thirty seven touchdowns,

784
00:37:04,520 --> 00:37:08,319
Speaker 1: twelve picks, he was the QB six. Jamiir Gibbs was fantastic.

785
00:37:08,360 --> 00:37:12,960
Speaker 1: He had over nineteen hundred scrimmage yards. Was the RB two.

786
00:37:13,880 --> 00:37:16,799
Speaker 1: David Montgomery another solid season. Seven hundred and seventy five

787
00:37:16,880 --> 00:37:20,200
Speaker 1: rushing yards, three hundred and forty one receiving yards. He

788
00:37:20,280 --> 00:37:25,080
Speaker 1: had thirteen well twelve rushing touchdowns and a passing touchdown,

789
00:37:25,400 --> 00:37:28,280
Speaker 1: so I guess thirteen total touchdowns if you will, RB seventeen.

790
00:37:28,320 --> 00:37:30,520
Speaker 1: I was despite missing some time with injury. I'm on

791
00:37:30,640 --> 00:37:34,400
Speaker 1: Ross Saint Brown fantastic again. Twelve hundred yards, twelve receiving

792
00:37:34,480 --> 00:37:37,400
Speaker 1: touchdowns are a wide receiver three at Jamison Williams a

793
00:37:37,400 --> 00:37:40,000
Speaker 1: little bit of a breakout season. Over one thousand receiving yards.

794
00:37:40,520 --> 00:37:44,480
Speaker 1: He had eight total touchdowns Wide receiver twenty three. Sam

795
00:37:44,600 --> 00:37:48,040
Speaker 1: Laporta sort of like Mark Andrews, kind of fits into

796
00:37:48,080 --> 00:37:50,560
Speaker 1: the what went right and what went wrong because early

797
00:37:50,600 --> 00:37:54,040
Speaker 1: in the season, Sam Laporta was a ghost. I'm a ghost,

798
00:37:54,360 --> 00:37:57,960
Speaker 1: like he was just not there at all. But late

799
00:37:58,000 --> 00:37:59,640
Speaker 1: in the season he started to come to life. He

800
00:37:59,680 --> 00:38:02,880
Speaker 1: finished just as the tight end eight, which is probably

801
00:38:02,920 --> 00:38:05,240
Speaker 1: not really making you feel any better if you drafted

802
00:38:05,320 --> 00:38:08,080
Speaker 1: him as the first tight end off the board. So

803
00:38:08,239 --> 00:38:10,760
Speaker 1: I guess that leads me to ask the question, Lakwan,

804
00:38:10,800 --> 00:38:12,960
Speaker 1: where are you drafting Sam Laporta next year?

805
00:38:13,239 --> 00:38:13,520
Speaker 2: Are you?

806
00:38:13,719 --> 00:38:15,640
Speaker 1: Obviously you know I drafted him as the tight end one,

807
00:38:15,760 --> 00:38:18,400
Speaker 1: but top three, top five tight end.

808
00:38:19,520 --> 00:38:21,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, he could be a top five tight end. I'm

809
00:38:21,719 --> 00:38:24,080
Speaker 2: still a little worried about the identity of this line's

810
00:38:24,120 --> 00:38:26,879
Speaker 2: offense with Ben Johnson gone, but I still still think,

811
00:38:26,920 --> 00:38:28,759
Speaker 2: you know, the back end of the season, him making

812
00:38:28,760 --> 00:38:31,200
Speaker 2: an impact, it still will be relevant, you know. And

813
00:38:31,200 --> 00:38:33,000
Speaker 2: then I think more so that he will be a

814
00:38:33,000 --> 00:38:35,600
Speaker 2: comfort pick for me, Like if I don't want to

815
00:38:35,600 --> 00:38:37,239
Speaker 2: get to George Kittles, if I don't want to pay

816
00:38:37,320 --> 00:38:41,040
Speaker 2: up for trade McBride, brock Bauers, Sam reporter there, why not,

817
00:38:41,280 --> 00:38:42,120
Speaker 2: like I'll take him there.

818
00:38:42,880 --> 00:38:45,480
Speaker 1: So you mentioned Ben Johnson being gone, Florio, I mean,

819
00:38:45,480 --> 00:38:48,319
Speaker 1: how much does that change? Maybe not the guy's at

820
00:38:48,320 --> 00:38:50,440
Speaker 1: the top, right, I mean, I think we're still taking

821
00:38:50,560 --> 00:38:53,240
Speaker 1: I'm on raw, We're still taking Javier Gibbs first round.

822
00:38:53,640 --> 00:38:58,520
Speaker 1: But you know, Jamison Williams, Sam Laporta, how much do

823
00:38:58,600 --> 00:39:00,919
Speaker 1: you factor in the lack of Ben Johnson this year?

824
00:39:01,680 --> 00:39:04,360
Speaker 3: I think it has to be factored in. And I

825
00:39:04,400 --> 00:39:06,840
Speaker 3: mean Ben Johnson has been the most sought after OC

826
00:39:07,120 --> 00:39:09,560
Speaker 3: for the last two three years for a while now

827
00:39:09,600 --> 00:39:13,960
Speaker 3: because of how much. And it wasn't just like oh man,

828
00:39:14,000 --> 00:39:15,560
Speaker 3: he's gotten the most out of the passing game, Like

829
00:39:15,600 --> 00:39:19,200
Speaker 3: he elevated everything, the running game, the passing game, all

830
00:39:19,239 --> 00:39:22,400
Speaker 3: the secondary options there. So I agree with your assessment

831
00:39:22,440 --> 00:39:25,200
Speaker 3: markets like Gibbs a Manra, I'm out, although I do

832
00:39:25,280 --> 00:39:29,680
Speaker 3: think to me, with those top guys, it becomes a tiebreaker,

833
00:39:29,800 --> 00:39:33,200
Speaker 3: like if you're debating between a Manra Saint Brown and

834
00:39:33,200 --> 00:39:36,680
Speaker 3: like Lakwan's boy Pooka Nakoula. Let's say I'm gonna be like, well,

835
00:39:36,920 --> 00:39:40,520
Speaker 3: Pookah has everything coming back the same, whereas it's a

836
00:39:40,520 --> 00:39:42,640
Speaker 3: new play caller for a Monra. So I will use

837
00:39:42,640 --> 00:39:45,120
Speaker 3: that to take Puka, but I'm not gonna knock a

838
00:39:45,160 --> 00:39:48,240
Speaker 3: Manra out of the first round. I do have concerns

839
00:39:48,239 --> 00:39:51,600
Speaker 3: with Jared Goff though, because as great as Gough has

840
00:39:51,600 --> 00:39:54,040
Speaker 3: played these last couple of years, I think we all

841
00:39:54,080 --> 00:39:56,960
Speaker 3: would say like it's a lot of the system that

842
00:39:57,040 --> 00:39:59,799
Speaker 3: he played in and the talent around him so much,

843
00:40:00,320 --> 00:40:04,040
Speaker 3: not him just like going off and everything. So I

844
00:40:04,040 --> 00:40:06,680
Speaker 3: think he takes a hit and the secondary pass catchers

845
00:40:06,719 --> 00:40:08,480
Speaker 3: like Jamison and Laporta take a hit. And one thing

846
00:40:08,520 --> 00:40:10,880
Speaker 3: I was talking to the Kwan over the weekend, I

847
00:40:10,960 --> 00:40:13,439
Speaker 3: might just punk tight end next year, Like I don't

848
00:40:13,440 --> 00:40:15,840
Speaker 3: want to use a second round pick on Bowers or McBride.

849
00:40:16,160 --> 00:40:19,319
Speaker 3: I'm sick of taking like someone like Laporta in round

850
00:40:19,400 --> 00:40:21,840
Speaker 3: three or four thinking he could give me elite stats

851
00:40:21,840 --> 00:40:24,640
Speaker 3: and then he's just solid and then I don't know.

852
00:40:24,680 --> 00:40:26,879
Speaker 3: It's like I think this might be the year where

853
00:40:26,880 --> 00:40:29,040
Speaker 3: I just I'm the last person in my draft to

854
00:40:29,080 --> 00:40:29,759
Speaker 3: take a tight end.

855
00:40:30,200 --> 00:40:32,359
Speaker 1: I can't do it. I just I don't. I don't

856
00:40:32,400 --> 00:40:34,359
Speaker 1: want that headache of trying to stream a tight end

857
00:40:35,040 --> 00:40:35,560
Speaker 1: every year?

858
00:40:35,680 --> 00:40:40,320
Speaker 2: What do you mean I got you, man, Johnny Smith.

859
00:40:42,000 --> 00:40:46,560
Speaker 1: It went so well for you. I just you know,

860
00:40:46,840 --> 00:40:49,279
Speaker 1: I that's one of those things. It just seems like

861
00:40:49,320 --> 00:40:52,640
Speaker 1: a great thing to say in February, and then you

862
00:40:52,680 --> 00:40:55,800
Speaker 1: know in October when you're like, is this the dollon

863
00:40:55,840 --> 00:40:58,000
Speaker 1: Shoultz Week? And then you're like, I shouldn't have done this,

864
00:40:58,280 --> 00:41:01,680
Speaker 1: like you know, like I just I can't give.

865
00:41:01,560 --> 00:41:04,200
Speaker 2: Me dal Kinkaid And like Evan Ingram in rounds like

866
00:41:04,560 --> 00:41:05,839
Speaker 2: nine to ten, you.

867
00:41:05,800 --> 00:41:08,680
Speaker 1: Were ready to put dalcan k to the moon two

868
00:41:08,680 --> 00:41:09,239
Speaker 1: weeks ago.

869
00:41:09,400 --> 00:41:10,200
Speaker 4: What are we agreed?

870
00:41:11,680 --> 00:41:13,719
Speaker 3: I Like, I'm like, if I could get like an

871
00:41:13,760 --> 00:41:16,640
Speaker 3: eight round discount and get him at another tight end,

872
00:41:16,840 --> 00:41:17,840
Speaker 3: I'll take the up.

873
00:41:18,080 --> 00:41:19,920
Speaker 2: I feel like my teams are better when I have

874
00:41:20,000 --> 00:41:22,440
Speaker 2: more debt at the wide receiver running back position, where

875
00:41:22,560 --> 00:41:25,800
Speaker 2: I traditionally you'll take, like in that mid round like

876
00:41:25,840 --> 00:41:27,839
Speaker 2: a tight end. But if I could wait even later

877
00:41:27,960 --> 00:41:30,040
Speaker 2: and get a John Newe or a Cole Comet that

878
00:41:30,080 --> 00:41:32,400
Speaker 2: I've been screaming for the last month down that I

879
00:41:32,440 --> 00:41:35,840
Speaker 2: think he's gonna be really good this season. So I

880
00:41:35,880 --> 00:41:38,040
Speaker 2: don't know, man, it just feels different with that build

881
00:41:38,080 --> 00:41:40,120
Speaker 2: that you have when you wait on Titand.

882
00:41:40,120 --> 00:41:43,680
Speaker 3: This is years of chasing those upside tight ends, like

883
00:41:43,760 --> 00:41:46,560
Speaker 3: Dal Kinkaid in the fifth round, Kyle Pitts.

884
00:41:46,760 --> 00:41:48,880
Speaker 2: This goes all the way back to like Kyle Rudolph

885
00:41:48,920 --> 00:41:51,239
Speaker 2: as a sixth round pick, like a decade ago. For me,

886
00:41:51,360 --> 00:41:56,919
Speaker 2: like er Smith, I've constantly been chasing these upside tight ends,

887
00:41:56,920 --> 00:41:59,440
Speaker 2: and I'm just I'm over it. I guess the port

888
00:41:59,560 --> 00:42:00,040
Speaker 2: is better than.

889
00:42:00,120 --> 00:42:01,680
Speaker 3: All of those guys, So yes, I would take him

890
00:42:01,680 --> 00:42:03,880
Speaker 3: as a top five tight end depending on costs.

891
00:42:04,160 --> 00:42:06,840
Speaker 2: Higbee falls into that in the twenty season two because

892
00:42:06,840 --> 00:42:09,239
Speaker 2: of twenty nineteen him going off twenty twenty, people were

893
00:42:09,280 --> 00:42:11,160
Speaker 2: pushing Higbee all the way up in the mid round.

894
00:42:11,560 --> 00:42:14,799
Speaker 2: I was ain't on Higbee. I've been burned constantly by

895
00:42:14,800 --> 00:42:17,120
Speaker 2: these upsides. We weren't friends then, man, and we didn't

896
00:42:17,120 --> 00:42:18,279
Speaker 2: know each other. That would have stopped you.

897
00:42:18,400 --> 00:42:22,319
Speaker 1: What the sounds like, is it that your draft strategy

898
00:42:22,360 --> 00:42:26,120
Speaker 1: on tight ends is changing. It's that your mentality about

899
00:42:26,160 --> 00:42:29,239
Speaker 1: the tight ends you're drafting is different, because you're still

900
00:42:29,280 --> 00:42:32,239
Speaker 1: talking about punting and waiting until later to get a guy,

901
00:42:32,640 --> 00:42:33,920
Speaker 1: but now you're just gonna get a guy.

902
00:42:33,960 --> 00:42:35,319
Speaker 2: Where you're just like yeah, I know.

903
00:42:35,280 --> 00:42:37,839
Speaker 1: This dude's gonna be mid right as opposed to.

904
00:42:38,320 --> 00:42:41,120
Speaker 2: I don't have to pay the premium to get mid right.

905
00:42:41,120 --> 00:42:43,359
Speaker 1: Like I instead of like waiting and being like this guy,

906
00:42:44,200 --> 00:42:46,799
Speaker 1: Yeah he's at mid is the floor and like the

907
00:42:46,840 --> 00:42:49,360
Speaker 1: ceiling is the roof. Like now, like, you haven't changed

908
00:42:49,400 --> 00:42:52,359
Speaker 1: your strategy, You just changed your mentality, is all that is.

909
00:42:52,719 --> 00:42:55,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, Yeah, like I'm going to in and out for

910
00:42:55,640 --> 00:42:58,239
Speaker 3: that two ninety nine double stack rather than like.

911
00:42:58,719 --> 00:43:00,000
Speaker 2: I don't know, I was, what's a premium?

912
00:43:00,600 --> 00:43:02,080
Speaker 1: Like in and out.

913
00:43:05,080 --> 00:43:06,680
Speaker 3: That's what I'm doing right now. I'll be having the

914
00:43:06,719 --> 00:43:08,839
Speaker 3: in and out tight end strategy going this year.

915
00:43:08,880 --> 00:43:09,960
Speaker 1: I knew he was gonna say that.

916
00:43:10,000 --> 00:43:12,440
Speaker 2: I'll say Habit Burger, and then in and out you

917
00:43:12,600 --> 00:43:13,840
Speaker 2: decide which premium or not.

918
00:43:14,719 --> 00:43:16,880
Speaker 1: I've never had had I've never heard of Habit Burger,

919
00:43:17,040 --> 00:43:20,560
Speaker 1: So Habit's fine. It's been a long time. It's been

920
00:43:20,560 --> 00:43:22,320
Speaker 1: a long time since I've had one. I gotta go

921
00:43:22,400 --> 00:43:25,440
Speaker 1: back again. I guess the gourmet is like Bowers McBride.

922
00:43:25,680 --> 00:43:28,480
Speaker 1: Then there's like the middle burger chains or whatever, and

923
00:43:28,520 --> 00:43:29,080
Speaker 1: then there's.

924
00:43:29,160 --> 00:43:30,920
Speaker 3: Look, there's in and out there for two ninety nine

925
00:43:31,000 --> 00:43:33,279
Speaker 3: or three ninety nine whatever, it calls get yourself a

926
00:43:33,320 --> 00:43:33,799
Speaker 3: great meal.

927
00:43:33,920 --> 00:43:35,960
Speaker 2: But no, we talked about this over the weekend too,

928
00:43:35,960 --> 00:43:38,040
Speaker 2: Like Jonna Swift was on the waiver wire, zach Ertz

929
00:43:38,239 --> 00:43:40,239
Speaker 2: was on the waiver wire, like all these other guys

930
00:43:40,280 --> 00:43:42,680
Speaker 2: that were actually showing up and showing out were I

931
00:43:42,800 --> 00:43:45,200
Speaker 2: thought the waiver war. So punting completely is not a

932
00:43:45,200 --> 00:43:47,160
Speaker 2: bad idea. And just wait a couple of weeks for

933
00:43:47,200 --> 00:43:47,640
Speaker 2: these guys.

934
00:43:47,719 --> 00:43:50,800
Speaker 3: I'm looking at a Fantasy pro again. It's it's February.

935
00:43:50,840 --> 00:43:53,000
Speaker 3: This is gonna be very different from August. But they're

936
00:43:53,239 --> 00:43:56,440
Speaker 3: they're early ADP right now. Tight End ten and on

937
00:43:56,640 --> 00:44:00,000
Speaker 3: is like Evan ingram Kin, Kate Tuckercraft, Jake Ferguson, Dallas

938
00:44:00,080 --> 00:44:03,680
Speaker 3: Goddard Hunter, Henry Kyle Pitts, Brian Muth, Coolekmit. I'll take

939
00:44:03,719 --> 00:44:06,200
Speaker 3: two of those guys in the later rounds of my

940
00:44:06,280 --> 00:44:08,239
Speaker 3: draft rather than a fifth round tight End.

941
00:44:08,880 --> 00:44:10,880
Speaker 1: Here you go, man Mark Andrews is going to be

942
00:44:10,920 --> 00:44:12,759
Speaker 1: five guys where like, you got to pay up for it,

943
00:44:12,760 --> 00:44:15,600
Speaker 1: and you're like, it's fine, not worth it, not worth

944
00:44:15,600 --> 00:44:16,799
Speaker 1: the price I paid for it.

945
00:44:16,840 --> 00:44:18,480
Speaker 2: You don't got to put a small mortgage on your

946
00:44:18,480 --> 00:44:19,160
Speaker 2: house to get there.

947
00:44:19,280 --> 00:44:23,000
Speaker 1: To get it it's like I've done it now, I

948
00:44:23,080 --> 00:44:29,520
Speaker 1: don't know that I'll be back again soon. Speaking of premiums, uh,

949
00:44:29,680 --> 00:44:33,080
Speaker 1: the Lakers got a premium player not really paying a

950
00:44:33,080 --> 00:44:34,880
Speaker 1: premium price, and it sort of broke the internet for

951
00:44:34,880 --> 00:44:36,440
Speaker 1: a couple of days. We'll come back talk about that

952
00:44:36,520 --> 00:44:39,120
Speaker 1: in an NFL perspective as we wrap things up on

953
00:44:39,200 --> 00:44:46,680
Speaker 1: the NFL Fantasy Football Podcast. So, unless you've been living

954
00:44:46,840 --> 00:44:49,600
Speaker 1: under a rock for the last couple of days, you

955
00:44:49,719 --> 00:44:53,399
Speaker 1: know that things happened in the National Basketball Association over

956
00:44:53,520 --> 00:44:57,040
Speaker 1: the weekend. In fact, if you're like most of us,

957
00:44:57,760 --> 00:45:00,720
Speaker 1: you probably either saw something on social media that looked

958
00:45:00,760 --> 00:45:03,080
Speaker 1: like a reporter might have gotten hacked, or you got

959
00:45:03,080 --> 00:45:06,040
Speaker 1: a text message about it from a friend. But the

960
00:45:06,040 --> 00:45:09,920
Speaker 1: longest short of it is Luka Doncic, who by pretty

961
00:45:10,000 --> 00:45:13,760
Speaker 1: much everyone's estimation is a top five player in the NBA,

962
00:45:13,960 --> 00:45:15,800
Speaker 1: is just twenty five years old, is not going to

963
00:45:15,840 --> 00:45:18,759
Speaker 1: finish his career with the Dallas Mavericks. Instead, he's all

964
00:45:18,800 --> 00:45:21,400
Speaker 1: the move to Los Angeles was traded for Anthony Davis

965
00:45:21,400 --> 00:45:24,640
Speaker 1: in a blockbuster three team deal, which, by the way,

966
00:45:24,880 --> 00:45:27,279
Speaker 1: the Utah Jazz. In that trade they were the third

967
00:45:27,320 --> 00:45:29,920
Speaker 1: team there. They were sort of like the spillover bucket, Like,

968
00:45:29,960 --> 00:45:31,520
Speaker 1: hey man, we're trying to like we're trying to like

969
00:45:31,560 --> 00:45:33,440
Speaker 1: bail water out of this thing, and we just need

970
00:45:33,480 --> 00:45:35,520
Speaker 1: an extra bucket to help clean up to That was

971
00:45:35,520 --> 00:45:37,520
Speaker 1: the Utah jazz I here just come take like this

972
00:45:37,800 --> 00:45:40,720
Speaker 1: Jalen Hood Chaffino and a couple of draft picks or whatever.

973
00:45:42,880 --> 00:45:44,960
Speaker 1: That's neither here nor there. I'm not here to evaluate

974
00:45:45,000 --> 00:45:49,240
Speaker 1: the the merits of the trade. But oh it was awful,

975
00:45:51,920 --> 00:45:57,000
Speaker 1: nicky in here, But it was one of those moments

976
00:45:57,120 --> 00:46:03,239
Speaker 1: in sports that just complete Lee circover social media to

977
00:46:03,440 --> 00:46:07,600
Speaker 1: the point that Beyonce announced to her tour the same

978
00:46:07,800 --> 00:46:11,279
Speaker 1: time that the trade was being announced, and everybody's like, hey,

979
00:46:11,360 --> 00:46:14,000
Speaker 1: B not now, who has.

980
00:46:13,880 --> 00:46:17,239
Speaker 2: That ever happened? Like she gets stiffed on her announcement.

981
00:46:17,920 --> 00:46:21,359
Speaker 1: I mean literally everybody's like, B will deal with this

982
00:46:21,520 --> 00:46:23,919
Speaker 1: in just a little bit. We got to talk about

983
00:46:23,960 --> 00:46:27,080
Speaker 1: Ady and Luca. When when you see a move like

984
00:46:27,120 --> 00:46:30,319
Speaker 1: this across sports, it's kind of a meme on social media.

985
00:46:30,360 --> 00:46:33,000
Speaker 1: It's like, explain this to me in you know, in

986
00:46:33,120 --> 00:46:37,600
Speaker 1: baseball terms, in comic book terms, in reality TV show terms,

987
00:46:38,000 --> 00:46:40,080
Speaker 1: and so obviously for a lot of us is what

988
00:46:40,120 --> 00:46:44,239
Speaker 1: would be the NFL equivalent of this, And I mean

989
00:46:44,320 --> 00:46:46,800
Speaker 1: Lakwan the one name that kept popping up when everybody

990
00:46:46,840 --> 00:46:50,680
Speaker 1: said what's the NFL equivalent? Matthew Stafford's name kept showing up,

991
00:46:50,719 --> 00:46:54,279
Speaker 1: and like every different generation as like kind of the

992
00:46:54,320 --> 00:46:57,400
Speaker 1: a D version, right, like older player, like good player,

993
00:46:57,920 --> 00:46:59,000
Speaker 1: but older player.

994
00:46:59,680 --> 00:47:01,040
Speaker 2: I will not accept that?

995
00:47:01,080 --> 00:47:01,400
Speaker 4: Why not?

996
00:47:01,440 --> 00:47:03,560
Speaker 1: I mean if that's not I don't think that's accurate,

997
00:47:03,680 --> 00:47:08,839
Speaker 1: like good player, older player. Okay, then if that, if

998
00:47:08,880 --> 00:47:11,640
Speaker 1: you don't accept that, what would be your NFL equivalent

999
00:47:11,680 --> 00:47:12,280
Speaker 1: of this trade?

1000
00:47:13,000 --> 00:47:15,440
Speaker 2: So how I looked at it was it was like

1001
00:47:16,080 --> 00:47:19,960
Speaker 2: Joe Burrow traded for Cameron Jordan for the Saints. You

1002
00:47:20,000 --> 00:47:22,719
Speaker 2: add in Bubb Memes and then a first round pick

1003
00:47:23,120 --> 00:47:25,600
Speaker 2: next year. Like That's how I looked at it as

1004
00:47:25,640 --> 00:47:29,920
Speaker 2: because Cam Jordan is a great defender, he's on the

1005
00:47:29,960 --> 00:47:32,319
Speaker 2: back end of his career with age, like he's past

1006
00:47:32,400 --> 00:47:36,480
Speaker 2: that peak, still a good player, but it's not Joe Burrow.

1007
00:47:36,880 --> 00:47:40,200
Speaker 1: No, all right, I guess I could kind of get

1008
00:47:40,239 --> 00:47:43,600
Speaker 1: down with that. I just don't know that Cam Jordan

1009
00:47:43,680 --> 00:47:46,799
Speaker 1: is the same level of headliner like Ady is still

1010
00:47:46,800 --> 00:47:50,879
Speaker 1: a headliner. You know, I don't know your your your

1011
00:47:51,280 --> 00:47:52,360
Speaker 1: take on it. Florida.

1012
00:47:54,200 --> 00:47:56,640
Speaker 3: I thought about this a lot on Sunday, and I

1013
00:47:56,800 --> 00:47:59,040
Speaker 3: landed on it would be like trading Jayden Daniels for

1014
00:47:59,120 --> 00:48:02,960
Speaker 3: Dak Prescott because Dak and Ad are about the same age.

1015
00:48:03,000 --> 00:48:06,479
Speaker 2: I think they're both thirty one. Luca is like six

1016
00:48:06,520 --> 00:48:08,960
Speaker 2: months older than Jade and Daniels. They're both under team

1017
00:48:09,000 --> 00:48:10,080
Speaker 2: control for a little bit.

1018
00:48:11,920 --> 00:48:15,279
Speaker 3: And yeah, like you're trading your franchise identity away, and

1019
00:48:15,320 --> 00:48:17,000
Speaker 3: that's what Jayden is for the Commanders.

1020
00:48:17,040 --> 00:48:17,239
Speaker 2: Now.

1021
00:48:18,640 --> 00:48:20,880
Speaker 3: I try to think about this a lot, and me

1022
00:48:20,920 --> 00:48:22,800
Speaker 3: and LaQuan we're talking about a little bit over the weekend.

1023
00:48:22,840 --> 00:48:27,040
Speaker 3: But like, I think this was the most shocking sports

1024
00:48:27,080 --> 00:48:30,240
Speaker 3: moment I can remember as a fan. Like the ones

1025
00:48:30,280 --> 00:48:33,160
Speaker 3: that I think compare are like Mookie getting traded to

1026
00:48:33,200 --> 00:48:36,640
Speaker 3: the Dodgers, your your team, Marcus a Rod to the

1027
00:48:36,719 --> 00:48:40,600
Speaker 3: Yankees when Andrew Luck retired, like KD to the Warriors.

1028
00:48:40,680 --> 00:48:44,160
Speaker 3: But I think what's different about this is it came

1029
00:48:44,200 --> 00:48:47,120
Speaker 3: out of nowhere. There was no build up and it

1030
00:48:47,320 --> 00:48:50,239
Speaker 3: just happened randomly on a Saturday night, like and one

1031
00:48:50,239 --> 00:48:52,560
Speaker 3: thing I love as a Nick fan is like the

1032
00:48:52,640 --> 00:48:55,560
Speaker 3: Knicks have been trying for two decades to get this

1033
00:48:56,160 --> 00:48:59,759
Speaker 3: caliber of player on their roster. The Lakers pick up

1034
00:48:59,800 --> 00:49:02,960
Speaker 3: a phone on Saturday night, thinking it's a drunk.

1035
00:49:02,719 --> 00:49:04,879
Speaker 2: Dial and they're like, you want to give us one

1036
00:49:04,880 --> 00:49:07,800
Speaker 2: of the faces of the NBA for you haven't called

1037
00:49:07,840 --> 00:49:12,480
Speaker 2: anyone else. You're accepting our first offer. Sure, we'll continue.

1038
00:49:12,040 --> 00:49:14,960
Speaker 3: To play NBA on easy mode like that for the

1039
00:49:15,000 --> 00:49:17,560
Speaker 3: Lakers smash, except.

1040
00:49:17,280 --> 00:49:21,560
Speaker 1: I mean, it really is like the I think the

1041
00:49:21,680 --> 00:49:25,400
Speaker 1: shock to that rippled through the sports world was amazing,

1042
00:49:25,760 --> 00:49:31,640
Speaker 1: the point that when it first dropped, the universal reaction was, oh,

1043
00:49:31,680 --> 00:49:35,640
Speaker 1: Sham's got hacked. Like that was that was what everyone's

1044
00:49:35,800 --> 00:49:38,200
Speaker 1: Sham's got hacked. This can't there's no way this is real.

1045
00:49:38,320 --> 00:49:41,120
Speaker 1: Sham's got hacked. Ha ha ha. This is really funny.

1046
00:49:41,280 --> 00:49:43,759
Speaker 1: But let's like, you know, I mean, I saw a

1047
00:49:43,920 --> 00:49:46,000
Speaker 1: video a clip of a live stream. These two guys

1048
00:49:46,040 --> 00:49:48,680
Speaker 1: were doing a Laker live stream, and they're like, oh, yeah,

1049
00:49:48,719 --> 00:49:50,440
Speaker 1: this is this is fake. Sham's got hacked. Ha ha.

1050
00:49:50,880 --> 00:49:52,080
Speaker 1: But let's you know, let's.

1051
00:49:51,880 --> 00:49:52,319
Speaker 4: Just for alive.

1052
00:49:52,400 --> 00:49:54,080
Speaker 1: Let's just put this in the trade machine and see

1053
00:49:54,080 --> 00:49:54,640
Speaker 1: how this would work.

1054
00:49:54,680 --> 00:49:55,880
Speaker 2: Blah blah blah blah blah.

1055
00:49:55,760 --> 00:49:58,200
Speaker 1: And then five minutes later just like oh wait, this

1056
00:49:58,320 --> 00:50:01,440
Speaker 1: is real, Like this is this, this is really really real.

1057
00:50:02,640 --> 00:50:02,920
Speaker 2: It was.

1058
00:50:03,120 --> 00:50:06,000
Speaker 1: There's very much like a what's happening sort of thing.

1059
00:50:06,360 --> 00:50:08,719
Speaker 3: I was at a bar watching Nicks Lakers and like

1060
00:50:08,840 --> 00:50:10,759
Speaker 3: with a couple of Laker fan friends and they're like, yeah,

1061
00:50:10,760 --> 00:50:12,440
Speaker 3: we're not gonna make any trades this year. If we do,

1062
00:50:12,440 --> 00:50:15,319
Speaker 3: it's gonna be very small. And then like I walked home,

1063
00:50:15,360 --> 00:50:17,400
Speaker 3: and in the walk home, like the game ended and

1064
00:50:17,480 --> 00:50:20,759
Speaker 3: Luca got traded to the Lakers. Have you guys ever

1065
00:50:20,840 --> 00:50:23,720
Speaker 3: seen a time where reporters like I have to ensure

1066
00:50:23,760 --> 00:50:25,080
Speaker 3: you that this is real, Like.

1067
00:50:25,480 --> 00:50:27,600
Speaker 1: I have to say I have to confirm that this

1068
00:50:27,680 --> 00:50:31,560
Speaker 1: is actually really happening. Yeah, I mean, because at first

1069
00:50:31,560 --> 00:50:32,960
Speaker 1: I was like, this is sort of it sort of

1070
00:50:32,960 --> 00:50:35,560
Speaker 1: feels like the night Antonio Brown was a Buffalo bill

1071
00:50:35,640 --> 00:50:39,000
Speaker 1: for like fifteen minutes. But this is even bigger than that.

1072
00:50:39,520 --> 00:50:41,520
Speaker 2: I don't think we'll ever get an NFL trade to

1073
00:50:41,600 --> 00:50:42,120
Speaker 2: this level.

1074
00:50:42,600 --> 00:50:46,040
Speaker 1: No, I don't think so either, because the NBA is

1075
00:50:46,280 --> 00:50:51,120
Speaker 1: very much about salary dump trades about superstars moving. There's

1076
00:50:51,160 --> 00:50:54,719
Speaker 1: a lot more superstar movement, especially with trades in the

1077
00:50:54,840 --> 00:50:59,359
Speaker 1: NBA than there is in the NFL. And yeah, I

1078
00:50:59,400 --> 00:51:01,879
Speaker 1: just I can't imagine if you're an NFL team likes

1079
00:51:01,920 --> 00:51:04,319
Speaker 1: you mentioned with Jade, Like, if you're in Washington and

1080
00:51:04,360 --> 00:51:07,719
Speaker 1: you have Jayden Daniels on this rookie contract under team

1081
00:51:07,800 --> 00:51:11,799
Speaker 1: control as the new face of your franchise, you're not

1082
00:51:12,120 --> 00:51:16,160
Speaker 1: just gonna dump him for even a good player, but

1083
00:51:16,239 --> 00:51:19,799
Speaker 1: an older player, right, He's just not gonna do it.

1084
00:51:19,960 --> 00:51:21,680
Speaker 1: The contract dynamics are so different.

1085
00:51:22,239 --> 00:51:25,919
Speaker 3: Miles Garrett, Aaron Rodgers, Russell will like, we've seen really

1086
00:51:26,000 --> 00:51:29,520
Speaker 3: big name players move before, but it happens after two

1087
00:51:29,520 --> 00:51:31,919
Speaker 3: to three months of coverage of like what this train

1088
00:51:32,000 --> 00:51:33,600
Speaker 3: could look like, Whereas.

1089
00:51:33,280 --> 00:51:37,120
Speaker 2: In the NBA, like literally no other gms didn't even

1090
00:51:37,120 --> 00:51:39,640
Speaker 2: know that Luca was available, Like it just happened.

1091
00:51:40,360 --> 00:51:42,239
Speaker 1: I talked about the Utah Yeah, Danny Ainge and the

1092
00:51:42,320 --> 00:51:45,440
Speaker 1: Utah Jazz were involved. Afterwards, Age said, I didn't know

1093
00:51:46,160 --> 00:51:49,759
Speaker 1: it was Luca ad that he's like by the time

1094
00:51:49,800 --> 00:51:51,440
Speaker 1: I find out, and he's like I had it was

1095
00:51:51,480 --> 00:51:53,759
Speaker 1: like I found out like thirty minutes before they posted it.

1096
00:51:53,840 --> 00:51:55,080
Speaker 1: I was like, it was too late for me to

1097
00:51:55,120 --> 00:51:55,720
Speaker 1: do anything.

1098
00:51:57,120 --> 00:51:58,839
Speaker 2: That's amazing. There should be a doc.

1099
00:51:59,200 --> 00:52:02,799
Speaker 1: None of the players involved New Right Ad didn't know.

1100
00:52:03,200 --> 00:52:05,720
Speaker 1: Luca Lebron apparently was out to dinner with his family

1101
00:52:05,760 --> 00:52:06,520
Speaker 1: when he found out.

1102
00:52:07,160 --> 00:52:09,680
Speaker 3: It's a lot like fantasy trades, when like a trade

1103
00:52:09,719 --> 00:52:12,200
Speaker 3: happens and you have other managers being like, we could

1104
00:52:12,280 --> 00:52:15,840
Speaker 3: have topped that offer, like that was legitags.

1105
00:52:16,120 --> 00:52:20,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's exactly what that is, absolutely absolutely wild. In fact,

1106
00:52:21,480 --> 00:52:25,600
Speaker 1: just before we started recording this pod, the Luca introductory

1107
00:52:25,640 --> 00:52:29,560
Speaker 1: press conference was happening in Los Angeles. The I mean

1108
00:52:29,600 --> 00:52:33,680
Speaker 1: just photos of him with the the purple and gold

1109
00:52:33,960 --> 00:52:35,240
Speaker 1: seventy seven jersey.

1110
00:52:37,280 --> 00:52:39,440
Speaker 2: He's not to seventy, by the way, there's no way

1111
00:52:39,560 --> 00:52:40,439
Speaker 2: you know what that is.

1112
00:52:40,320 --> 00:52:43,480
Speaker 3: Though, right, like the whole Oh, he's overweight, he's to seventy.

1113
00:52:43,560 --> 00:52:44,800
Speaker 2: He doesn't he's not committed.

1114
00:52:44,840 --> 00:52:47,200
Speaker 1: And that's Dallas try to justify what they did.

1115
00:52:47,320 --> 00:52:49,440
Speaker 2: Yep, it's Lamar can't stay healthy.

1116
00:52:49,600 --> 00:52:52,080
Speaker 3: Running quarterbacks get hurt. Remember when no one wanted to

1117
00:52:52,080 --> 00:52:53,160
Speaker 3: pay Lamar two years ago?

1118
00:52:53,320 --> 00:52:55,360
Speaker 2: Like, yeah, that's all this is. It's saving face.

1119
00:52:56,160 --> 00:53:00,880
Speaker 1: It's the Mavericks trying to play cya and and explain

1120
00:53:01,000 --> 00:53:03,719
Speaker 1: why it is that they traded a generational talent. Of

1121
00:53:03,800 --> 00:53:06,120
Speaker 1: all the weird, wild things about this trade, the one

1122
00:53:06,200 --> 00:53:08,600
Speaker 1: thing that broke my wife was looking at a picture

1123
00:53:08,640 --> 00:53:10,839
Speaker 1: of Luca and learning that he was twenty five years old.

1124
00:53:13,160 --> 00:53:14,759
Speaker 1: She's like, she's like, what do you mean twenty five?

1125
00:53:14,760 --> 00:53:16,360
Speaker 1: And like he's twenty five years old? She said, no,

1126
00:53:16,400 --> 00:53:18,280
Speaker 1: you mean like thirty five. Like, no, he is twenty

1127
00:53:18,280 --> 00:53:18,879
Speaker 1: five years old.

1128
00:53:22,600 --> 00:53:24,280
Speaker 2: I couldn't look at him and say that either.

1129
00:53:24,360 --> 00:53:27,080
Speaker 1: I was like, that is the thing that of all

1130
00:53:27,160 --> 00:53:29,359
Speaker 1: the things that happened, that's the one that broke my wife.

1131
00:53:30,880 --> 00:53:33,200
Speaker 2: Well, she's a Laker fan, right, she should be happy.

1132
00:53:33,080 --> 00:53:36,400
Speaker 1: She's a Lebron fan. But okay, she did admit she's like,

1133
00:53:36,440 --> 00:53:37,960
Speaker 1: you know, she's like I kind of phone off watching

1134
00:53:38,000 --> 00:53:41,399
Speaker 1: the Lakers lately, like I'm back in. She's like, I'm

1135
00:53:41,440 --> 00:53:42,680
Speaker 1: back watching the Lakers again.

1136
00:53:42,800 --> 00:53:46,000
Speaker 3: They went from having literally once Lebron walked away, they

1137
00:53:46,000 --> 00:53:49,320
Speaker 3: were gonna have probably the roughest decade in franchise history.

1138
00:53:49,480 --> 00:53:52,759
Speaker 3: And now you would trade maybe two teams future for there,

1139
00:53:52,920 --> 00:53:54,759
Speaker 3: like you would take two teams future over theres Like

1140
00:53:54,760 --> 00:53:55,760
Speaker 3: it's crazy.

1141
00:53:55,760 --> 00:53:59,560
Speaker 1: That is it so uh fun times one time and

1142
00:53:59,600 --> 00:54:02,759
Speaker 1: it's why that the NBA stole even a little bit

1143
00:54:02,760 --> 00:54:05,080
Speaker 1: of shine from the NFL leading up to Super Bowl

1144
00:54:05,160 --> 00:54:06,800
Speaker 1: week just wild.

1145
00:54:07,040 --> 00:54:09,400
Speaker 2: You know what if it was if the Bills were

1146
00:54:09,400 --> 00:54:10,600
Speaker 2: in there, that might be different.

1147
00:54:13,480 --> 00:54:15,520
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go with No, I'm gonna go with Bill.

1148
00:54:16,000 --> 00:54:19,520
Speaker 2: Everyone's fired up right now? Oh yeah, yeah, Look, me

1149
00:54:19,560 --> 00:54:20,799
Speaker 2: and Floria will be the front man.

1150
00:54:21,080 --> 00:54:24,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, and by everyone we mean sixty seven percent of

1151
00:54:24,000 --> 00:54:29,720
Speaker 1: this show. We will, of course, preview Super Bowl fifty

1152
00:54:29,760 --> 00:54:32,640
Speaker 1: nine coming up on our show on Thursday. We'll finish

1153
00:54:32,680 --> 00:54:35,600
Speaker 1: our exit interviews as well, so stick around for that.

1154
00:54:35,640 --> 00:54:37,560
Speaker 1: Should be a whole lot of fun. But in the meantime,

1155
00:54:37,600 --> 00:54:39,840
Speaker 1: that'll do it for this edition of the NFL Fantasy

1156
00:54:39,880 --> 00:54:42,160
Speaker 1: Football Podcast. They happy, safe and healthy, do good and

1157
00:54:42,280 --> 00:54:44,560
Speaker 1: live well, Enjoy the day is everybody, and we'll talk

1158
00:54:44,560 --> 00:54:45,800
Speaker 1: to you again on Thursday.

1159
00:54:46,239 --> 00:54:57,240
Speaker 4: Wow, I'm a ghost.

1160
00:55:05,920 --> 00:55:12,279
Speaker 1: Don't help book as a whole