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Speaker 1: Welcome to NFL Daily, where we're recreating Monday Nights on

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Speaker 1: Thursday mornings. Yes, I'm here with my Monday Night buddy,

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Speaker 1: Nick Shook, and we're gonna start really diving deep into

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Speaker 1: the off season. We're gonna talk about franchise tags. Nick.

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Speaker 1: We're also gonna throw to an interview we did last

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Speaker 1: week with Kobe Turner Jordan Rod Reagan. I that I

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Speaker 1: really enjoyed. But it is great to be talking to you, Nick.

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Speaker 1: I know you're playing hurt. Everyone got Everyone has a

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Speaker 1: flu game this week coming home from New Orleans.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, we're all battling something that we picked up.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I guess it's not a week in New

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Speaker 3: Orleans if you don't board the flight back with chills.

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Speaker 2: But we're here, baby, we're working.

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Speaker 4: I know.

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Speaker 1: Our producer Eric got stuck at the airport for about

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Speaker 1: seven hours after staying up all night because it was

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Speaker 1: a six am flight. That's a disaster, and apparently everyone

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Speaker 1: is playing hurt right now, not feeling strong. My poor

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Speaker 1: son puked in the cab on the way to the

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Speaker 1: airport and on the plane. There was something going on

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Speaker 1: in that superdome other than the most dominating defensive performance

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Speaker 1: I've ever seen. Look, Nick, we're gonna get right into it.

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Speaker 1: We're going to talk a little news. Like I said,

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Speaker 1: We're going to talk some tag primer, and I'm looking

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Speaker 1: forward to everyone hearing this Kobe Turner interview that was

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Speaker 1: so good that I just wanted to save it because

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Speaker 1: I thought it was going to get lost last week.

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Speaker 1: It had nothing to do with the super Bowl, so

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Speaker 1: our listeners hopefully will enjoy that. But let's talk about

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Speaker 1: a couple news items that dropped before the super Bowl

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Speaker 1: that I thought were worth actually mentioning. And the first

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Speaker 1: is that Aaron Rodgers, it started with Jay Glazer, is

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Speaker 1: unlikely to be back with the Jets next season. After

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Speaker 1: Glazer first reported this, basically every insider had a version

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Speaker 1: of this story. They all agreed, and it really sounds

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Speaker 1: like Rogers is done with the Jets, which to me

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Speaker 1: is a fascinating decision, and I'm actually a little surprised.

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Speaker 1: Maybe I shouldn't be.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I felt like any time that a new

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Speaker 3: that they'd be inclined to move on because he's not

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Speaker 3: their guy. He's also forty one years old, and there's

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Speaker 3: no real future with him. But you did think bridge

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Speaker 3: quarterback for a year. You don't have your replacement on

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Speaker 3: the roster right now, you're not quite in a position

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Speaker 3: So that's where the surprise does land. But otherwise, I mean,

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Speaker 3: he spent weeks, if not months, talking about, Yeah, I'd

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Speaker 3: love to be back if they'll have me, and ultimately

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Speaker 3: it seems like they won't have him.

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Speaker 1: And there's some debate whether it's his choice, their choice,

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Speaker 1: both their choice, mutual choice. Diane Rassini of The Athletic

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Speaker 1: had a great little item that the Jets said, if

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Speaker 1: you were going to come back, you would have to

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Speaker 1: be at all the mandatory practices. You would have to

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Speaker 1: give up your Pat McAfee show. Ooh. Really intriguing and

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Speaker 1: basically saying like this is not going to be the

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Speaker 1: regime kind of bows to Aaron Rodgers, which is really

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Speaker 1: interesting because any team, now that you think about that

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Speaker 3: Yeah, baggage is exactly what I would expect or what

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Speaker 3: I was thinking too. Luggage, plenty of luggage there and

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Speaker 3: some of it not really necessary or it would fit

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Speaker 3: the plan of most of these teams. I think you

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Speaker 3: accept that if the guy's thirty five or even thirty

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Speaker 3: But he's beyond that now, So I understand that it's

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Speaker 3: just now who's going to be willing to at this point.

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Speaker 4: I lack his baggage.

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Speaker 1: That's Terry Jones last week. I feel like we're going

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Speaker 1: to be reusing that one a lot. Part of the

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Speaker 1: fascination to me with Rogers is just, yes, the negatives

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Speaker 1: do not make it worth bringing him back. In my mind,

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Speaker 1: I think they're making the right choice. But then when

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Speaker 1: you look at all the quarterbacks that are available, we're

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Speaker 1: So it wouldn't have surprise me. Would have been a

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Speaker 1: maybe getting rid of Adam just kind of clears the deck,

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Speaker 1: But who knows. These two dudes are a little weird.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I know he's north of thirty, and

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Speaker 3: folks are going to wonder about the long term viability.

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Speaker 3: I get that, and the numbers high, like the existing

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Speaker 1: That's a thirty five million dollar base salary, So.

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Speaker 3: Maybe a lot of negotiation there, like you're gonna have

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Speaker 3: to convert a lot of that into bonus, tack on voidears,

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Speaker 3: same time, I still think that he is valuable. He

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Speaker 3: proved that down the stretch with Rogers, with some of

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Speaker 3: a couple of games where he became DeVante Adams Again,

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Speaker 3: I think he still carries value. The package deal idea

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Speaker 3: just that how do you negotiate or navigate that contract.

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Speaker 1: Although the more the more I look at it a

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Speaker 1: the year twenty twenty one, when Aaron Rodgers is winning

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Speaker 1: the greatest of players. Deebo Samuel over the weekend made

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Speaker 1: or maybe by the forty nine ers. Either way, he's

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Speaker 1: that show. Really looking forward to that, so we'll dive

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Speaker 1: into more of the particulars. But it really feels like

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Speaker 1: Not totally shocking when you look at what else is

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Speaker 3: He's not quite the guy that unlocks the offense that

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Speaker 3: and it sets up an interesting market for him because

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Speaker 3: I think he still does Carrius some value if he

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Speaker 1: Yeah, this is all where the agent and Deebo Samuel

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Speaker 1: and what they want to do helps determine the trade

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Speaker 1: value for the forty nine ers. Now, you wouldn't think

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Speaker 1: this year but it's almost a prove it year, then

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Speaker 1: that I mentioned. Speaking of trades like the offseason, just

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Speaker 1: doesn't wait around. Tom Pellisero reported Jermaine Pratt, of all

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Speaker 1: people of the Bengals, has requested a trade. He's not

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Speaker 1: the only Bengal that could be getting traded. We'll talk

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Speaker 1: about t Higgins in just a second. Talking about franchise tags,

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Speaker 1: I think Jermaine Pratt would have almost certainly been cut

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Speaker 1: this year. I can't imagine that lu Ayne Rumo loves

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Speaker 1: he'll just be cut. But it's trade request season. There

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Speaker 1: really informs this franchise tag preview we're going to do

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Speaker 1: right now, Nick, So I'm excited. I was saying at

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Speaker 1: the end of the show with bo Wolf, it's Greg's season.

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Speaker 1: The regular season is over. I love this season, Jordan

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Speaker 1: and you throughout this name. It sounds ridiculous for me

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Speaker 1: to say it, but I'm saying it. It's really about

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Speaker 1: five weeks long. The bulk of free agency and trades

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Speaker 1: will be done by about March nineteenth, twentieth. You know,

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Speaker 1: first big date that kicks it off in theory is

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Speaker 1: the franchise tag and that being allowed to happen. That

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Speaker 1: is actually next Tuesday where that opens up, and it

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Speaker 1: lasts a couple of weeks there. And so in advance

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Speaker 1: of the franchise tag being opened up, I thought we'd

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Speaker 1: It's not a great one. I have zero locks. I

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Speaker 1: put it in a bunch of different categories. I have locks,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we're also getting contributions from younger guys, like big

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Speaker 3: But that's never a problem for us.

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Speaker 2: We're going to find these now.

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Speaker 1: It's still fascinating. We saw how the Eagles completely transformed

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Speaker 1: it's one hundred and twenty percent of this year's salary.

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Speaker 1: Everyone is out there saying we want to sign T Higgins.

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Speaker 1: It's everyone's solution to their wide receiver problem. The Patriots,

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Speaker 3: comes down to market value. You know, if twenty six

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Speaker 2: They have it.

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Speaker 1: They have forty six million dollars in cap space. That

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Speaker 1: going off Joel Corey of CBS Sports two. Great job

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Speaker 1: doing estimated franchise text. Now T Higgins is one is

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Speaker 1: Jamar Chase has to get done. It actually would be

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Speaker 1: Higgins my number one wide receiver that would be available

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Speaker 1: It'd obviously be a big number for a tackle. It'd

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Speaker 3: after Stanley took that pay cut, the president has set

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Speaker 3: for him to not make that much money, and age

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Speaker 1: He'll get paid though, he'll get paid so much, and

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Speaker 1: So you're saying I should put down to that the

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Speaker 2: We can? You know, tag and trade? That's like the

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Speaker 3: They can also renegotiate their own deals and everything else,

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Speaker 1: my Maybi's Zach Bond. Talked about him with Bo Wolf

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Speaker 3: And I think that, you know, financially, number doesn't really

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Speaker 3: and that's way higher. But then again, he played such

434
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Speaker 3: an important role in this defense. He had an All

435
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Speaker 3: Pro year. He was just a transformative player that you

436
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Speaker 3: could justify it. I think instead, what they're going to

437
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Speaker 3: do is exactly what you just said, which is use

438
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Speaker 3: it as a deadline, use it as a last ditch

439
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Speaker 3: type of situation. I mean, for Zach, he's going to

440
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Speaker 3: get paid. He made three point five million dollars last year.

441
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Speaker 3: He's way outperformed that, and I think that they understand

442
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Speaker 3: that they need to get that deal done. They're also

443
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Speaker 3: not operating with the most cast base. According to over

444
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Speaker 3: the cap right now, it's eighteen million willion in next year,

445
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Speaker 3: So I.

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Speaker 1: Kind of stuff to do.

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Speaker 3: I think this is just a like a preservation method

448
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Speaker 3: where they're just like, all, we have a lot of

449
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Speaker 3: deals to get done. I think they'll ultimately get a

450
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Speaker 3: deal done with him, like you said, and they just

451
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Speaker 3: save that as a last ditch, make sure he doesn't

452
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Speaker 3: get out the building type of thing.

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Speaker 1: Okay, Yeah, So all these free agents that people are

454
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Speaker 1: going to see on the list, like a lot of them,

455
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Speaker 1: aren't going to get there. March fourth is the day

456
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Speaker 1: that you have to have a franchise tag applied, buy

457
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Speaker 1: or they ultimately just enter free agency. So to me,

458
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Speaker 1: that's like a soft deadline for them. Tray Smith, just

459
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Speaker 1: the vibes in Kansas City all year was that they

460
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Speaker 1: were maybe gonna let their twenty six, twenty seven year

461
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Speaker 1: old former All Pro, Excellent Pro Bowl guard go. Some

462
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Speaker 1: football heads think maybe it wasn't his best year, but

463
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Speaker 1: I don't know if that's that important. He's had a

464
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Speaker 1: really great career so far. He'll make a killing on

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Speaker 1: the open market. But the Chiefs are kind of in

466
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Speaker 1: that position where you can't pay everyone. So if it

467
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Speaker 1: was any other team, I would have just said he's

468
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Speaker 1: close to a lock with them. I say, it's a

469
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Speaker 1: maybe twenty three million dollars would be their franchise deck.

470
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Speaker 3: It's a tough number to digest when they have so

471
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Speaker 3: many things to address, but we just saw their biggest

472
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Speaker 3: weakness in the Super Bowl cause them to right, which

473
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Speaker 3: is offensive line. I'm sorry, you know me, I invest

474
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Speaker 3: in the trenches. I think you do whatever you have

475
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Speaker 3: to do to keep him, and I think some other

476
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Speaker 3: contracts are going to be in play, Travis Kelsey's decision

477
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Speaker 3: on whether he wants to play in the future or not.

478
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Speaker 2: That could free up some cap space.

479
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Speaker 3: There are decisions that they have to make elsewhere in

480
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Speaker 3: order to kind of reorganize this salary cap situation. But

481
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Speaker 3: this is a guy you can't let leave. He's still young,

482
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Speaker 3: He's played very well over the course of his career.

483
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Speaker 3: It's a key position in my opinion, and I think

484
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Speaker 3: you have to do what you have to do to

485
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Speaker 3: keep him. I don't know if I would like to

486
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Speaker 3: pay that tag number, but because Joe Toney, you know,

487
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Speaker 3: he's tenth and average annual value at sixteen million dollars,

488
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Speaker 3: and you know what he brings to the table, this

489
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Speaker 3: would be a lot more. But just in terms of football,

490
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Speaker 3: you got to keep him. There's so much capsman's out there.

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Speaker 1: If Tray Smith gets to the open market, he's gonna

492
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Speaker 1: make oh tons twenty five million dollars a year. Yeah,

493
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Speaker 1: in the first couple of years of that deal.

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Speaker 3: All these justify them keeping him at that number because

495
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Speaker 3: of their own situation unfortunately that.

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Speaker 1: I'm thinking about last year and how they tagged and

497
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Speaker 1: traded Snead' I'm moving this up to leaning yes that

498
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Speaker 1: they it just even though the reporting is so strong

499
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Speaker 1: that he that they're going to like not pay him,

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Speaker 1: that they're going to let him go. So many times

501
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Speaker 1: I've seen over the years, what the totally on ed

502
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Speaker 1: educated person from the outside thinks is most logical to

503
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Speaker 1: happen is actually what happens and not what is reported

504
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Speaker 1: to happen. And to me, it's just not logical that

505
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Speaker 1: good players just don't get let go let him go.

506
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Speaker 1: So I think I'm moving him up to leaning yes.

507
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Speaker 1: And it could be at tag and trade too, where

508
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Speaker 1: at least they get something for him. Brett Veach is

509
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Speaker 1: saying that Carlton Davis, Look, there's not many cornerbacks that

510
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Speaker 1: would be available. He would be one of the best.

511
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Speaker 1: I think he's really important to what the Lions do.

512
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Speaker 1: It would be a huge number. I'm leaning more no

513
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Speaker 1: on this, but I put him in the maybe category.

514
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Speaker 1: He's coming off a broken jaw, which sounds like the

515
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Speaker 1: most unpleasant injury you could possibly have. But as as

516
00:24:39,880 --> 00:24:42,840
Speaker 1: a football you know, personnel, guy probably thinks about it

517
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Speaker 1: like his jaw is just gonna heal and that's not

518
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Speaker 1: a problem moving forward. The number at cornerback is twenty

519
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Speaker 1: million dollars for a guy who's getting close to thirty.

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Speaker 1: That's actually perfect. Give me a one year, twenty million

521
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Speaker 1: dollar Carlton Davis contract. They have plenty of cap space.

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Speaker 1: I actually think that makes a lot of sense, So

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Speaker 1: I'm going maybe on Carlton Davis.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I would lean on this as well.

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Speaker 3: I mean, it's kind of near the top, and Ramsey's

526
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Speaker 3: at the top at twenty four point one million in

527
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Speaker 3: average anyal value. But like it's worth it. It's a

528
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Speaker 3: one year thing. It's a position that you need. It's

529
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Speaker 3: an area that you spent a lot to address in

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Speaker 3: the offseason, and then you saw, you know, as the

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Speaker 3: injuries piled up on defense that eventually you couldn't get

532
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Speaker 3: a stop in the playoffs and that contributed to your

533
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Speaker 3: downfall and you were missing him, so I'd bring him back.

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Speaker 3: It's a one year thing, it's not like you're paying

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Speaker 3: multiple years. Why not do it.

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Speaker 1: I think they're in championship mode, and this is actually

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Speaker 1: kind of a championship mode move. Is you tag one

538
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Speaker 1: of your veterans that you're happy to keep for one

539
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Speaker 1: more year. The rest of the guys, and look, that's

540
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Speaker 1: a short list. Usually, like I said, there's five or

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Speaker 1: six locks. You know, there's anywhere between four and five

542
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Speaker 1: at the very low end, and in nine, ten to eleven,

543
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Speaker 1: twelve at the top end. You know, we just went

544
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Speaker 1: through six guys and I think only three or four

545
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Speaker 1: of them are going to be tagged, and those, to me,

546
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Speaker 1: are the most likely. It's going to be a small

547
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Speaker 1: group this year. Might probably not list. I just don't

548
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Speaker 1: think they're gonna pay that much on a one year

549
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Speaker 1: deal for Josh Sweats, as great as he's been. Paul

550
00:26:06,160 --> 00:26:08,760
Speaker 1: Senadebo coming off a terrible injury for the Saints, but

551
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Speaker 1: I just decided to throw him in there. Assante Samuel.

552
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Speaker 1: It's a new coaching staff and he's coming off an injury.

553
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Speaker 1: Justin Reid is really important for the Chiefs, So that

554
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Speaker 1: wouldn't totally shock me. I thought I'd write it down.

555
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Speaker 1: And then Milton Williams, who that was the one in

556
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Speaker 1: the probably not. I was like, if they could they

557
00:26:24,480 --> 00:26:26,840
Speaker 1: could free up enough money and you get bond on

558
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Speaker 1: a deal like that's it's not It wouldn't be shocking

559
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Speaker 1: to me for them to pay Milton Williams. But that's

560
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Speaker 1: a lot for a guy that's been like your fifth

561
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Speaker 1: or six defensive lineman to pay him twenty million dollars

562
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Speaker 1: a year whatever it would be for defensive tackle, twenty

563
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Speaker 1: five million dollars actually would be that would be That's

564
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Speaker 1: a tough call.

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Speaker 3: I mean, that would have to be a deal that

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Speaker 3: you backload in order to make it all fit. Right now,

567
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Speaker 3: I feel like he's the guy who's gonna make money

568
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Speaker 3: elsewhere ultimately. But because they have the depth there and

569
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Speaker 3: everything else, and Sweat, Sweat felt like it was we

570
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Speaker 3: were kind of headed toward this way a couple of

571
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Speaker 3: years ago, and they've drafted and developed accordingly to They made.

572
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Speaker 1: Him take a pay and the restructure, by the way,

573
00:27:01,560 --> 00:27:04,520
Speaker 1: so I don't think I don't think he was thrilled

574
00:27:04,520 --> 00:27:07,240
Speaker 1: about that, and he almost was super Bowl MVP. He

575
00:27:07,280 --> 00:27:09,440
Speaker 1: actually was quoted I think it was to Albert Breer

576
00:27:09,560 --> 00:27:12,040
Speaker 1: saying like, maybe I should have been super Bowl MVP.

577
00:27:12,160 --> 00:27:13,359
Speaker 1: So that's the guy that knows.

578
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Speaker 3: And teams like this, they tend to get pillaged. I mean,

579
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Speaker 3: I think about the Giants back when they beat the Patriots.

580
00:27:18,359 --> 00:27:20,240
Speaker 3: A ton of guys cashed in off of that victory.

581
00:27:20,240 --> 00:27:22,600
Speaker 3: Did they play that well elsewhere? No, but this is

582
00:27:22,680 --> 00:27:24,879
Speaker 3: tends what happened. People come in, they grab guys, they

583
00:27:24,920 --> 00:27:26,760
Speaker 3: overpay him, and they all cash in.

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Speaker 1: Sweat's a good player, maybe not a great player, but

585
00:27:30,440 --> 00:27:34,080
Speaker 1: a very good player, very like one, a very good season.

586
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Speaker 1: But he's thirty. Not the type of guy I think

587
00:27:36,600 --> 00:27:39,000
Speaker 1: the Eagles are gonna pay. So those are the probably

588
00:27:39,040 --> 00:27:40,840
Speaker 1: not just a few other names that I just thought

589
00:27:40,880 --> 00:27:43,119
Speaker 1: were interesting. If you were curious, you're out there, you

590
00:27:43,119 --> 00:27:45,879
Speaker 1: were for the team with these guys on them, Oh,

591
00:27:45,880 --> 00:27:48,040
Speaker 1: wouldn't they tag them? I don't even think these guys

592
00:27:48,080 --> 00:27:50,880
Speaker 1: are close. But Ernest Jones with the Seahawks, he did

593
00:27:50,920 --> 00:27:53,320
Speaker 1: make a big impact. Javon Holland, I just think, but

594
00:27:53,600 --> 00:27:56,360
Speaker 1: he would make sense in another scenario, but the Dolphins

595
00:27:56,359 --> 00:27:58,320
Speaker 1: in him didn't seem to have a great relationship, so

596
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Speaker 1: that that's a hard no for me. Oh A Diggi

597
00:28:01,000 --> 00:28:03,960
Speaker 1: Zua and DeMarcus Lawrence for the Cowboys. They're a little strapped.

598
00:28:03,960 --> 00:28:06,280
Speaker 1: They're not going to tag those guys. Julian Blackman for

599
00:28:06,320 --> 00:28:09,679
Speaker 1: the Chiefs, Keenan Allen Levi on Wuzurique DJ Reid the

600
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Speaker 1: cornerback for the Jets, and Alaric Jackson for the Rams.

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00:28:12,600 --> 00:28:15,359
Speaker 1: Those are all hard nos in my mind. It is

602
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Speaker 1: a hard yes to this Kobe Turner interview that's coming

603
00:28:19,080 --> 00:28:21,640
Speaker 1: up after the break, But I'm not saying goodbye to Nick.

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Speaker 1: We'll say a little goodbye for the show. Nick. After

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Speaker 1: we take a quick break we come back. You're going

606
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Speaker 1: to listen to an interview Jordan rod Rieg of The

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Speaker 1: Athletic and I did with Kobe Turner. This guy's a

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Speaker 1: star just in terms of his personality, his intelligence, and

609
00:28:39,040 --> 00:28:41,080
Speaker 1: his play on the field. And I just thought it

610
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Speaker 1: was a cool interview that I kind of want to

611
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Speaker 1: didn't want to get lost. I hope you guys enjoy it.

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Speaker 1: Nick and I will be back on the other side

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Speaker 1: of this conversation, back on NFL Daily and thrilled to

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Speaker 1: be joined by a man that I now consider a

615
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Speaker 1: close friend because.

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Speaker 5: In one week, Yes, aren't you sick of us?

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Speaker 4: No, not at all. You guys are incredible.

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Speaker 1: Kobe Turner of course, the defensive lineman for the Los

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Speaker 1: Angeles Rams, And yes, we spent some time together as

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Speaker 1: part of the Mina Kimes benefit on That was Monday

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Speaker 1: night of super Bowl week in Los Angeles. And I

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Speaker 1: gotta say, Kobe, you you sang that night and you

623
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Speaker 1: you gave me chills. I'm not just saying that because

624
00:29:35,560 --> 00:29:40,920
Speaker 1: I didn't talk to you afterwards. Really, we went on stage,

625
00:29:40,800 --> 00:29:43,480
Speaker 1: he was out, We were ships crossing the night. You

626
00:29:43,480 --> 00:29:45,560
Speaker 1: were very nice, and we were watching the show earlier.

627
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Speaker 1: But man, watching people's faces and reaction to you that

628
00:29:52,240 --> 00:29:54,880
Speaker 1: night singing, I'm not kidding. I'm not just blowing smoke.

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Speaker 1: I got chills there. Yeah, props, because that's that's what

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00:29:58,640 --> 00:30:00,239
Speaker 1: music is all about. How does that feel to make

631
00:30:00,280 --> 00:30:01,400
Speaker 1: other people feel that way? Man?

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Speaker 4: It was It was cool. It was definitely different.

633
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Speaker 6: You know, go on acapella and you know, I of

634
00:30:07,360 --> 00:30:10,040
Speaker 6: course put that song out already on Spotify, and then

635
00:30:10,080 --> 00:30:12,680
Speaker 6: I'll have another song that should be coming out next Friday,

636
00:30:12,720 --> 00:30:16,600
Speaker 6: probably which little like name was praying so it'll be

637
00:30:16,600 --> 00:30:17,920
Speaker 6: a cover of Praying by Kasha.

638
00:30:18,040 --> 00:30:19,920
Speaker 7: Oh my god, that's one of my favorite songs.

639
00:30:20,000 --> 00:30:20,200
Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 6: So if you guys saw a House of the Rising

641
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Speaker 6: Sun was good, like this one is the one. Like

642
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Speaker 6: I'm super excited to be able to share this one

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Speaker 6: with you guys.

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Speaker 8: Because soby, like everybody saw you on Mass Singer. Everybody

645
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Speaker 8: knows what you're capable of. But also that's TV to

646
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Speaker 8: have you there in person. You didn't even have to

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Speaker 8: stand up. You hit the high notes. So I have

648
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Speaker 8: to tell you. So I saw Greg. Greg was watching

649
00:30:40,960 --> 00:30:42,800
Speaker 8: on the monitor backstage because we were getting ready to

650
00:30:42,800 --> 00:30:44,600
Speaker 8: come back out. We didn't want to be like looking

651
00:30:44,680 --> 00:30:47,080
Speaker 8: in to be like oh hi, you know, and distracting

652
00:30:47,120 --> 00:30:51,960
Speaker 8: whatever and watching Greg watch you and Greg and I'm sorry,

653
00:30:52,000 --> 00:30:52,920
Speaker 8: you're sorry.

654
00:30:52,760 --> 00:30:54,160
Speaker 7: I'm gonna blow you up here a little bit.

655
00:30:54,200 --> 00:30:56,280
Speaker 8: But Greg turns to me and he goes, he is

656
00:30:56,320 --> 00:30:58,880
Speaker 8: a star, and I was like, I know, I know,

657
00:30:59,120 --> 00:31:01,240
Speaker 8: and it just it was really cool and I love

658
00:31:01,280 --> 00:31:03,520
Speaker 8: that like I cover I cover you, you know when

659
00:31:03,560 --> 00:31:05,920
Speaker 8: I cover the rooms for the athletic and like it's

660
00:31:06,040 --> 00:31:07,800
Speaker 8: just something I'm not saying you get used to it

661
00:31:07,840 --> 00:31:08,440
Speaker 8: because you don't.

662
00:31:08,800 --> 00:31:10,480
Speaker 7: But you're just like this all the time.

663
00:31:10,640 --> 00:31:12,960
Speaker 6: Yeah, Yeah, it's really it's really cool to be able

664
00:31:12,960 --> 00:31:16,120
Speaker 6: to share that side. And yeah, and then from the

665
00:31:16,200 --> 00:31:18,520
Speaker 6: mass singer, you know, you're in this big costume, like

666
00:31:18,560 --> 00:31:22,440
Speaker 6: there's they don't change your voice too much, but obviously

667
00:31:22,480 --> 00:31:24,560
Speaker 6: you're singing through a costume, so there's different things that

668
00:31:24,560 --> 00:31:28,160
Speaker 6: they have to do to you know, to make it

669
00:31:28,440 --> 00:31:31,000
Speaker 6: sound coherent and to where you're not just hearing the

670
00:31:31,000 --> 00:31:34,280
Speaker 6: inside of the costume. But it is different being able

671
00:31:34,280 --> 00:31:36,520
Speaker 6: to do something live and then also to be able

672
00:31:36,520 --> 00:31:38,760
Speaker 6: to share all of my stuff out on like all

673
00:31:38,760 --> 00:31:41,240
Speaker 6: of the streaming platforms because it's like, you know, I

674
00:31:41,400 --> 00:31:43,680
Speaker 6: know that this is more of a passion project, but

675
00:31:43,720 --> 00:31:45,160
Speaker 6: this is something that I love to do and that

676
00:31:45,600 --> 00:31:48,440
Speaker 6: I believe I'm really good at and that could have

677
00:31:48,560 --> 00:31:51,200
Speaker 6: its own direction, but you know, I'm a football guy

678
00:31:51,200 --> 00:31:52,680
Speaker 6: and that's what I love to do. But it's it's

679
00:31:52,680 --> 00:31:54,200
Speaker 6: cool to do that on the side, for sure.

680
00:31:54,320 --> 00:31:55,120
Speaker 7: It's just so cool.

681
00:31:55,240 --> 00:31:57,800
Speaker 8: I just you know, for listeners, I mean, I know

682
00:31:57,880 --> 00:32:00,000
Speaker 8: you listen to me like wax poetic about all these

683
00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:01,920
Speaker 8: like superstars that I get to cover in the LA

684
00:32:02,040 --> 00:32:04,920
Speaker 8: but like Kobe's a team captain for a reason. You

685
00:32:04,960 --> 00:32:09,000
Speaker 8: know you you bring people with you and you're authentic

686
00:32:09,160 --> 00:32:11,960
Speaker 8: and fully yourself. And I love what Mina was talking

687
00:32:11,960 --> 00:32:14,880
Speaker 8: to you about on Monday, because that can be hard

688
00:32:14,920 --> 00:32:17,920
Speaker 8: to do in this league that wants to a take

689
00:32:17,960 --> 00:32:20,320
Speaker 8: from you, b beat you down physically. See it's very

690
00:32:20,360 --> 00:32:25,080
Speaker 8: mentally taxing as well. But you sort of float, if

691
00:32:25,080 --> 00:32:27,040
Speaker 8: that makes sense, And I guess I wonder like where

692
00:32:27,040 --> 00:32:27,840
Speaker 8: does that come from?

693
00:32:27,880 --> 00:32:29,000
Speaker 7: What's your support system?

694
00:32:29,040 --> 00:32:31,600
Speaker 8: And how do you stay so I mean again, you

695
00:32:32,000 --> 00:32:34,400
Speaker 8: just kind of float through it all like very gracefully,

696
00:32:34,400 --> 00:32:35,640
Speaker 8: if you don't mind me saying.

697
00:32:35,440 --> 00:32:39,800
Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm so grounded. And that comes back to my fiance.

698
00:32:40,120 --> 00:32:41,120
Speaker 6: You know, we're about to get.

699
00:32:41,440 --> 00:32:44,040
Speaker 8: By the way, and I was like, you rock so much,

700
00:32:44,080 --> 00:32:44,840
Speaker 8: by the way, it's a lot.

701
00:32:45,200 --> 00:32:46,480
Speaker 5: You're definitely gonna be a wife guy.

702
00:32:46,720 --> 00:32:47,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, I know.

703
00:32:47,760 --> 00:32:51,120
Speaker 6: I'm a huge like to be able to be a husband,

704
00:32:51,480 --> 00:32:54,080
Speaker 6: or to be able to be her man is something

705
00:32:54,120 --> 00:32:56,560
Speaker 6: that I take a lot of pride in being. So

706
00:32:56,600 --> 00:32:59,800
Speaker 6: she just completely grounds me. I mean she's there through everything,

707
00:33:00,280 --> 00:33:03,719
Speaker 6: everything behind the scenes, massing or everything, like she's here today.

708
00:33:04,680 --> 00:33:07,600
Speaker 6: She's just she's my person who grounds me. And I'm

709
00:33:07,640 --> 00:33:09,920
Speaker 6: so lucky to be able to have been able to

710
00:33:09,960 --> 00:33:13,960
Speaker 6: find her and yeah. So the way that I am

711
00:33:14,040 --> 00:33:16,240
Speaker 6: able to continue to be myself is to have people

712
00:33:16,280 --> 00:33:18,360
Speaker 6: like her who are in my corner and who are

713
00:33:18,480 --> 00:33:20,880
Speaker 6: cheering me on and being like yeah, like post that

714
00:33:21,000 --> 00:33:23,960
Speaker 6: wicked TikTok video or like go live and like go

715
00:33:24,160 --> 00:33:26,720
Speaker 6: because I'm already singing, like when I'm in the house,

716
00:33:26,800 --> 00:33:29,000
Speaker 6: I'm going to be playing my guitar, playing my piano.

717
00:33:29,040 --> 00:33:29,960
Speaker 4: But She's like, share that.

718
00:33:29,920 --> 00:33:33,680
Speaker 6: With the world. And that's been one of my biggest goals,

719
00:33:33,800 --> 00:33:35,880
Speaker 6: is to just be able to share all that I

720
00:33:35,920 --> 00:33:37,840
Speaker 6: am with the world, and not to just present here's

721
00:33:37,880 --> 00:33:40,200
Speaker 6: the football side, but to be like, I would not

722
00:33:40,280 --> 00:33:42,600
Speaker 6: be the football side that I have if it wasn't

723
00:33:42,600 --> 00:33:44,640
Speaker 6: for the music side, if it wasn't for the man side,

724
00:33:44,640 --> 00:33:47,720
Speaker 6: if it wasn't for the fiance side. So to be

725
00:33:47,760 --> 00:33:50,000
Speaker 6: able to share the totality of all of who I

726
00:33:50,040 --> 00:33:52,720
Speaker 6: am and to have a support system starting off with

727
00:33:52,800 --> 00:33:56,480
Speaker 6: her is the reason why I am able to float through.

728
00:33:56,560 --> 00:33:59,200
Speaker 1: Now Jordan's given you in the listeners some of the

729
00:33:59,320 --> 00:34:02,160
Speaker 1: character reasons. It's like then the man behind the jersey

730
00:34:02,520 --> 00:34:04,320
Speaker 1: of why you're you're a leader on that team.

731
00:34:04,360 --> 00:34:06,360
Speaker 5: But the production matters a lot. It does.

732
00:34:10,520 --> 00:34:12,399
Speaker 1: If you could get on that field, if you weren't

733
00:34:12,440 --> 00:34:14,320
Speaker 1: making those sack getting those no doubts.

734
00:34:15,160 --> 00:34:16,480
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's a big part of it.

735
00:34:16,520 --> 00:34:19,320
Speaker 1: I wonder, is there a particular way that you like

736
00:34:19,400 --> 00:34:20,080
Speaker 1: to win the best?

737
00:34:20,280 --> 00:34:21,920
Speaker 5: Is there is there a way you win that is

738
00:34:21,960 --> 00:34:22,520
Speaker 5: your favorite.

739
00:34:22,719 --> 00:34:25,799
Speaker 6: So I take a lot of pride in whenever we're

740
00:34:25,840 --> 00:34:28,200
Speaker 6: in our overload fronts and I'm the penetrator who just

741
00:34:28,239 --> 00:34:31,680
Speaker 6: has to crease through the a because well one that's

742
00:34:31,760 --> 00:34:34,239
Speaker 6: and I know we might talk cadence and stuff, but

743
00:34:34,719 --> 00:34:37,200
Speaker 6: I'm able to see different keys from the center to

744
00:34:37,200 --> 00:34:38,719
Speaker 6: be able to let me know when to get off,

745
00:34:38,719 --> 00:34:41,440
Speaker 6: so that I'm the person who gets all fast the fastest,

746
00:34:41,719 --> 00:34:43,719
Speaker 6: and at times I get off faster than the old

747
00:34:43,760 --> 00:34:47,640
Speaker 6: lineman who know the snapcount. But it's something fun about

748
00:34:47,640 --> 00:34:50,319
Speaker 6: being able to club the center and when you like

749
00:34:51,000 --> 00:34:54,160
Speaker 6: when you catch his arm perfectly and boom you hit

750
00:34:54,200 --> 00:34:56,000
Speaker 6: it by and it's like the center misses. But that's

751
00:34:56,040 --> 00:34:57,520
Speaker 6: only half of the battle. And then now you have

752
00:34:57,560 --> 00:34:59,120
Speaker 6: to rip through and you have to get to the

753
00:34:59,160 --> 00:35:01,320
Speaker 6: back short of the guar and you trap them with

754
00:35:01,360 --> 00:35:03,480
Speaker 6: your elbow or you're either you know, pushing through the

755
00:35:03,480 --> 00:35:05,880
Speaker 6: back shoulder or I catch a club on the center's

756
00:35:05,920 --> 00:35:07,879
Speaker 6: elbow and then I catch the guard up and throw

757
00:35:07,920 --> 00:35:09,960
Speaker 6: them by and then now all I have to do

758
00:35:10,000 --> 00:35:11,840
Speaker 6: is run straight in the quarterbacks right there.

759
00:35:12,600 --> 00:35:15,160
Speaker 1: I'm watching, if you're watching on YouTube, Kobe is showing

760
00:35:15,239 --> 00:35:19,200
Speaker 1: how he's doing the club and I'm just I'm just everything.

761
00:35:19,239 --> 00:35:20,799
Speaker 4: You just you just grab you know what.

762
00:35:20,840 --> 00:35:21,760
Speaker 7: I'm gonna not comment.

763
00:35:22,960 --> 00:35:25,160
Speaker 8: It's not gonna comment. I'm not gonna come it. There's

764
00:35:25,160 --> 00:35:26,480
Speaker 8: a little size difference.

765
00:35:26,880 --> 00:35:27,920
Speaker 7: You know, no problem.

766
00:35:28,160 --> 00:35:31,160
Speaker 6: Yeah, but no, that's that's one of my favorite ways.

767
00:35:31,200 --> 00:35:33,879
Speaker 6: Like whenever I get lined up and I'm like, I'm

768
00:35:33,920 --> 00:35:36,920
Speaker 6: just creasing this gap from the from the nose technique

769
00:35:36,960 --> 00:35:39,600
Speaker 6: like I have. There's a certain mentality that's when I'm

770
00:35:39,600 --> 00:35:42,279
Speaker 6: at my best. And you know, I think it's was

771
00:35:42,320 --> 00:35:44,719
Speaker 6: really cool too as the season progressed to continue to

772
00:35:44,760 --> 00:35:46,279
Speaker 6: find ways to put me in that position and a

773
00:35:46,280 --> 00:35:47,600
Speaker 6: lot of our overload packages.

774
00:35:47,920 --> 00:35:50,239
Speaker 4: But you see it, you hear the communication.

775
00:35:50,600 --> 00:35:53,640
Speaker 6: You're like, okay, like we walked up, uh say, we

776
00:35:53,680 --> 00:35:56,000
Speaker 6: walk up Hoyt on the backside. He's a bigger body,

777
00:35:56,040 --> 00:35:57,759
Speaker 6: So that's gonna listen a five. Oh, so it's really

778
00:35:57,760 --> 00:35:59,120
Speaker 6: me in the center. If it's just me and the center.

779
00:35:59,160 --> 00:36:00,880
Speaker 6: I'm beating the center, and then I'll be able to

780
00:36:00,920 --> 00:36:04,680
Speaker 6: beat off. I'll be able to beat the backside guard

781
00:36:05,160 --> 00:36:07,560
Speaker 6: and come through, you know, clean through the A gap.

782
00:36:07,840 --> 00:36:10,200
Speaker 6: But then there's sometimes where they bring a four to

783
00:36:10,239 --> 00:36:12,080
Speaker 6: three slides, so the center sliding a little bit harder.

784
00:36:12,080 --> 00:36:14,680
Speaker 6: But all of those things I like to pick up

785
00:36:14,680 --> 00:36:17,239
Speaker 6: on it, and then I know, Okay, this is my opportunity.

786
00:36:17,320 --> 00:36:19,920
Speaker 6: And so I like increasing long winded version.

787
00:36:19,719 --> 00:36:21,520
Speaker 8: Of saying I like to we love that, we love that,

788
00:36:21,640 --> 00:36:24,719
Speaker 8: that's what we're all about.

789
00:36:24,880 --> 00:36:27,359
Speaker 1: I love how casual. By the way, he also says like, oh, well,

790
00:36:27,360 --> 00:36:28,359
Speaker 1: first I just beat the center.

791
00:36:28,600 --> 00:36:29,879
Speaker 7: Yeah, and did you see the side eye?

792
00:36:29,920 --> 00:36:31,600
Speaker 8: He gave a little side eye too, like you know

793
00:36:31,760 --> 00:36:34,879
Speaker 8: you know well, but that is correct because we see

794
00:36:34,920 --> 00:36:38,040
Speaker 8: you do it, snap in and snap out. Okay, here's

795
00:36:38,080 --> 00:36:41,319
Speaker 8: my pitch to you. Okay, so you write a book

796
00:36:41,360 --> 00:36:43,080
Speaker 8: at some point, because I believe you can do it.

797
00:36:43,080 --> 00:36:46,240
Speaker 8: You can do everything, and it from a d tackles

798
00:36:46,280 --> 00:36:50,880
Speaker 8: perspective secrets of an NFL center because you are studying

799
00:36:50,920 --> 00:36:54,919
Speaker 8: these guys. And that's something that Aaron Donald did too,

800
00:36:54,960 --> 00:36:55,680
Speaker 8: and I know you know.

801
00:36:55,640 --> 00:36:58,319
Speaker 7: That because we've talked about it, and like we to

802
00:36:59,200 --> 00:37:01,360
Speaker 7: get into their the way that you do.

803
00:37:01,840 --> 00:37:03,840
Speaker 8: First of all, take us through your process, because to

804
00:37:04,560 --> 00:37:08,680
Speaker 8: win like you do, you do have to know tendencies, cadences.

805
00:37:08,680 --> 00:37:11,600
Speaker 8: You have to look for little weaknesses. One time Aaron

806
00:37:11,880 --> 00:37:15,000
Speaker 8: showed me this and it was a frightening experience for

807
00:37:15,080 --> 00:37:17,560
Speaker 8: me because I was like, oh my god, and because

808
00:37:17,680 --> 00:37:19,600
Speaker 8: when he grabs you, you're just like, oh my god.

809
00:37:19,760 --> 00:37:21,680
Speaker 8: He was telling me about how he would just sometimes

810
00:37:21,719 --> 00:37:25,080
Speaker 8: walk down the hallways and just grab alignement by like, oh,

811
00:37:25,160 --> 00:37:25,920
Speaker 8: is that a weak spot?

812
00:37:26,040 --> 00:37:27,520
Speaker 7: Does that hurt? Is that a pressure point?

813
00:37:27,560 --> 00:37:30,239
Speaker 8: And he would look for different like soft spots for

814
00:37:30,320 --> 00:37:32,680
Speaker 8: these linemen. Yeah, but I know you're studying all of

815
00:37:32,680 --> 00:37:34,920
Speaker 8: that too, So where do you start and how do

816
00:37:35,080 --> 00:37:36,240
Speaker 8: you study?

817
00:37:36,320 --> 00:37:38,600
Speaker 7: Like what is your process of studying and what have

818
00:37:38,640 --> 00:37:39,120
Speaker 7: you learned?

819
00:37:39,360 --> 00:37:46,480
Speaker 4: Yeah, okay, so this is going to be multifaceted, so fast. One,

820
00:37:46,520 --> 00:37:49,799
Speaker 4: when we talk about weak spots on somebody's arm or

821
00:37:49,840 --> 00:37:52,560
Speaker 4: on somebody's body, that's a lot that I've actually learned

822
00:37:52,600 --> 00:37:56,800
Speaker 4: from Eighties Knife Guy. We talked about it on the meinaodcast.

823
00:37:55,840 --> 00:37:58,319
Speaker 7: So I called Eighties Knife Guy so I hit.

824
00:37:58,280 --> 00:38:00,759
Speaker 6: Him up right after NFL. Honest, that's a lot of

825
00:38:00,800 --> 00:38:03,600
Speaker 6: what he does it's how to break down different joints.

826
00:38:03,680 --> 00:38:07,000
Speaker 6: What are the weak spots? Where can you attack and

827
00:38:07,080 --> 00:38:10,040
Speaker 6: what's going to be weak on an offensive lineman or Okay, hey,

828
00:38:10,080 --> 00:38:13,359
Speaker 6: if I say I swipe out on offensive lineman, then

829
00:38:13,520 --> 00:38:15,160
Speaker 6: how is he going to replace his hand? Is he

830
00:38:15,200 --> 00:38:17,560
Speaker 6: gonna replace his hand back out and up under? And

831
00:38:17,600 --> 00:38:19,759
Speaker 6: if he does in that time where I'm swiping out

832
00:38:19,760 --> 00:38:21,879
Speaker 6: and he's replacing his hand, he doesn't have a hand

833
00:38:21,920 --> 00:38:23,560
Speaker 6: on me. So if I grab cloth and I'm able

834
00:38:23,600 --> 00:38:25,480
Speaker 6: to throw him by now I'm able to get back

835
00:38:25,480 --> 00:38:27,400
Speaker 6: to the quarterback. And so there's a lot of things

836
00:38:27,440 --> 00:38:30,600
Speaker 6: that you break down in that sense, and that's a

837
00:38:30,600 --> 00:38:32,040
Speaker 6: lot of what Poodi has helped me to do.

838
00:38:32,400 --> 00:38:35,520
Speaker 2: And then we ad.

839
00:38:36,520 --> 00:38:39,320
Speaker 6: And then when we just talk about like my film study,

840
00:38:39,400 --> 00:38:41,800
Speaker 6: there's a million and one things that I look through

841
00:38:42,640 --> 00:38:44,799
Speaker 6: people are probably if people sit in a film room

842
00:38:44,840 --> 00:38:46,560
Speaker 6: with me, they're probably going to be bored because they

843
00:38:46,640 --> 00:38:48,719
Speaker 6: might not be seeing what I'm seeing. But I'm replaying

844
00:38:48,719 --> 00:38:50,640
Speaker 6: the start of each play the end of each play

845
00:38:50,960 --> 00:38:54,520
Speaker 6: to see just exactly everything that I can take from it.

846
00:38:54,800 --> 00:38:56,879
Speaker 6: You know, a lot of times I'm looking first at

847
00:38:56,960 --> 00:38:59,359
Speaker 6: what are their tendencies, what are they doing past, how

848
00:38:59,360 --> 00:39:00,000
Speaker 6: do they like to play?

849
00:39:00,280 --> 00:39:00,959
Speaker 4: All of these things?

850
00:39:00,960 --> 00:39:03,200
Speaker 6: But then when you really get to the nitty gritty, right,

851
00:39:04,600 --> 00:39:07,120
Speaker 6: So I'll take you through a home game. We're playing

852
00:39:07,120 --> 00:39:08,640
Speaker 6: a home game at SOFI. A lot of teams are

853
00:39:08,680 --> 00:39:10,799
Speaker 6: going to be on a silent cadence. So that means

854
00:39:10,800 --> 00:39:13,040
Speaker 6: the sinner has to either a get tapped by the

855
00:39:13,040 --> 00:39:14,840
Speaker 6: guard to let him know snap the ball, or b

856
00:39:15,000 --> 00:39:17,440
Speaker 6: has to look through his legs get a visual cue

857
00:39:17,480 --> 00:39:21,760
Speaker 6: and then decide to go or see he'll and he'll

858
00:39:21,760 --> 00:39:23,080
Speaker 6: call out the cadence on himself.

859
00:39:23,120 --> 00:39:25,560
Speaker 7: We just stuck his head and listeners yet, right, so.

860
00:39:25,480 --> 00:39:29,600
Speaker 6: He'll call out the cadence himself. There's when you play

861
00:39:29,640 --> 00:39:32,799
Speaker 6: so much and when you really study the game, you

862
00:39:32,880 --> 00:39:35,399
Speaker 6: get to feel somebody's aura. And it's not something that

863
00:39:35,480 --> 00:39:39,040
Speaker 6: comes through so much on tape, but once you're in person,

864
00:39:39,120 --> 00:39:41,640
Speaker 6: you feel the aura. You feel, Okay, this person is

865
00:39:41,680 --> 00:39:44,040
Speaker 6: ready to go, or this person's not ready. And so

866
00:39:44,080 --> 00:39:47,200
Speaker 6: there's sometimes right where I'll watch the very beginning of

867
00:39:47,200 --> 00:39:49,000
Speaker 6: the play where it'll just barely be cut off and

868
00:39:49,040 --> 00:39:51,120
Speaker 6: it's like a fake cadence where the sinner's looking through

869
00:39:51,120 --> 00:39:52,919
Speaker 6: his leg but he's not ready. And so I'm looking

870
00:39:52,920 --> 00:39:55,600
Speaker 6: at his knees at how tensed his quad muscles are.

871
00:39:55,960 --> 00:39:59,160
Speaker 6: I'm looking all the way like I'm king the knee.

872
00:39:59,200 --> 00:40:02,200
Speaker 6: Some guys, you like, there's there's a couple of sinners

873
00:40:02,200 --> 00:40:05,120
Speaker 6: who maybe their hand is in the middle uh when

874
00:40:05,120 --> 00:40:07,759
Speaker 6: they're faking, and then by the time when they're when

875
00:40:07,760 --> 00:40:10,120
Speaker 6: they're trying to get out, they throw their hand back

876
00:40:10,239 --> 00:40:12,640
Speaker 6: as they're looking down under to kick back.

877
00:40:12,719 --> 00:40:14,319
Speaker 8: And so we're not going to say the name you

878
00:40:14,360 --> 00:40:16,279
Speaker 8: told me, and I'll take it to the.

879
00:40:16,239 --> 00:40:18,480
Speaker 4: Green right, because we got to use that one for

880
00:40:18,480 --> 00:40:20,320
Speaker 4: a little bit, I promise.

881
00:40:20,440 --> 00:40:23,040
Speaker 6: But it's it's so interesting to be able to see

882
00:40:23,040 --> 00:40:26,680
Speaker 6: these certain things, and you see it when they're stressed, right.

883
00:40:26,760 --> 00:40:29,959
Speaker 6: A lot of times people can control their movements when

884
00:40:30,040 --> 00:40:31,839
Speaker 6: there's not somebody who's about to get off the bar,

885
00:40:31,960 --> 00:40:34,360
Speaker 6: when they're not worried about who they're going up against.

886
00:40:34,520 --> 00:40:37,000
Speaker 6: But every time I look at some okay, when they

887
00:40:37,040 --> 00:40:39,840
Speaker 6: think this guy is about to shoot and jump the gap,

888
00:40:40,280 --> 00:40:42,239
Speaker 6: what are they doing within their body to give them

889
00:40:42,280 --> 00:40:45,920
Speaker 6: an extra extra step. Everybody in the NFL cheats, you know.

890
00:40:46,320 --> 00:40:48,319
Speaker 6: Coach Gift tells me all the time. If you're not cheating,

891
00:40:48,320 --> 00:40:50,520
Speaker 6: you're not trying, and so it's a matter of catching

892
00:40:50,560 --> 00:40:52,360
Speaker 6: the cheaters and catching what they do so that you

893
00:40:52,360 --> 00:40:54,640
Speaker 6: can cheat off of them. And you know, if you

894
00:40:54,719 --> 00:40:58,399
Speaker 6: listen to quarterbacks snap snap cadence or whatnot, like you're

895
00:40:58,560 --> 00:41:00,440
Speaker 6: laid off the ball every time. But because all of

896
00:41:00,440 --> 00:41:03,680
Speaker 6: the linemen are jumping out right before he says the cadence,

897
00:41:03,719 --> 00:41:06,360
Speaker 6: so to be able to key in on the particular pieces,

898
00:41:06,360 --> 00:41:08,399
Speaker 6: whether it be an arm, whether it be a leg,

899
00:41:08,440 --> 00:41:11,480
Speaker 6: whether it be the fact that some sinners, when you

900
00:41:11,520 --> 00:41:14,680
Speaker 6: know they're looking down when they're about to uh, when

901
00:41:14,680 --> 00:41:17,200
Speaker 6: they're actually about to snap it, they look down harder

902
00:41:17,239 --> 00:41:20,600
Speaker 6: so that they can reset themselves back and back up

903
00:41:20,640 --> 00:41:22,720
Speaker 6: to be able to get off the ball. So there's

904
00:41:22,800 --> 00:41:24,880
Speaker 6: so many, Like you said, you could write a book

905
00:41:24,920 --> 00:41:25,880
Speaker 6: on writing.

906
00:41:26,440 --> 00:41:28,640
Speaker 7: Yeah, I'll take I'll only take ten percent.

907
00:41:28,680 --> 00:41:31,800
Speaker 8: It's fine, No, But Kobe, it's cool because like what,

908
00:41:31,920 --> 00:41:33,440
Speaker 8: I don't think a lot of people on the outside

909
00:41:33,440 --> 00:41:35,680
Speaker 8: when they they're watching TV or whatever and they see

910
00:41:35,719 --> 00:41:38,160
Speaker 8: like their favorite team and like a d lineman all

911
00:41:38,239 --> 00:41:41,960
Speaker 8: starts jumps offside something like that, and it's like, oh,

912
00:41:42,000 --> 00:41:44,239
Speaker 8: he made a mistake. If they're very if they're a

913
00:41:44,239 --> 00:41:47,560
Speaker 8: good player, such as yourself, Actually that's not what's happening.

914
00:41:47,600 --> 00:41:50,799
Speaker 8: You saw something that you know is to be true

915
00:41:50,960 --> 00:41:53,239
Speaker 8: and you reacted to the thing that you'd studied, and

916
00:41:53,280 --> 00:41:56,000
Speaker 8: I think that is a misconception. Is like, I've heard

917
00:41:56,040 --> 00:41:58,400
Speaker 8: you take the blame for things sometimes and all this stuff,

918
00:41:58,400 --> 00:42:01,160
Speaker 8: and I know you're a captain post to I get that,

919
00:42:01,400 --> 00:42:03,840
Speaker 8: but like you're not messing up, like you saw that

920
00:42:03,960 --> 00:42:05,240
Speaker 8: Seattle Center do something.

921
00:42:05,360 --> 00:42:07,719
Speaker 6: Yeah, it's whether it be that, whether it be to you.

922
00:42:07,920 --> 00:42:11,839
Speaker 6: There's some guys that'll move and the refs don't see

923
00:42:11,840 --> 00:42:14,040
Speaker 6: it because they're farther out. But being in tune, like

924
00:42:14,080 --> 00:42:16,920
Speaker 6: there's so many times on film where I'm pointing at

925
00:42:16,920 --> 00:42:19,520
Speaker 6: somebody and they snap the ball and it's not a

926
00:42:19,520 --> 00:42:22,200
Speaker 6: fallse Star say, we take the Vikings game, you know,

927
00:42:22,360 --> 00:42:25,759
Speaker 6: Jerry or Akello makes the big play, gets a strip, sack,

928
00:42:25,920 --> 00:42:26,560
Speaker 6: Verse takes.

929
00:42:26,400 --> 00:42:26,879
Speaker 4: It all the way.

930
00:42:27,160 --> 00:42:30,000
Speaker 6: So I'm I would have been all sides if I

931
00:42:30,040 --> 00:42:32,720
Speaker 6: was crowding the ball because I'm seeing the shot clock

932
00:42:32,760 --> 00:42:35,040
Speaker 6: go down and I'm like, they have to snap the ball.

933
00:42:35,440 --> 00:42:37,840
Speaker 6: I've heard von Miller talk about this. They have to

934
00:42:37,840 --> 00:42:40,080
Speaker 6: snap the ball. The balls at zero zero, and it

935
00:42:40,160 --> 00:42:42,920
Speaker 6: was at zero zero for a second, and normally the refs.

936
00:42:42,960 --> 00:42:44,920
Speaker 6: They'll let it get to zero zero and they'll give

937
00:42:44,960 --> 00:42:46,359
Speaker 6: them a chance to snap it. But if they're not

938
00:42:46,360 --> 00:42:48,960
Speaker 6: snapping it, then they're not doing anything. So I literally

939
00:42:49,000 --> 00:42:52,680
Speaker 6: stand up and I'm pointing out the shot clock, the clock,

940
00:42:52,760 --> 00:42:54,880
Speaker 6: and they and they, and they snapped the ball. And

941
00:42:55,040 --> 00:42:56,880
Speaker 6: actually I was talking to Verse about it. If you

942
00:42:57,000 --> 00:42:58,719
Speaker 6: watch that play, Verse doesn't get off the ball. He's

943
00:42:58,760 --> 00:43:01,359
Speaker 6: like I saw Kobe stand up and start pointing. If

944
00:43:01,400 --> 00:43:03,920
Speaker 6: he's pointing, then somebody did something wrong, like it's it's

945
00:43:03,960 --> 00:43:07,040
Speaker 6: off sides or false start. Sorry, And so I'm pointing.

946
00:43:07,120 --> 00:43:09,360
Speaker 6: And then they snapped the ball, and nobody's ready to

947
00:43:09,400 --> 00:43:11,680
Speaker 6: go because everybody thinks that it's a delay of game,

948
00:43:12,120 --> 00:43:14,439
Speaker 6: and you know, a kello ends up going there.

949
00:43:14,760 --> 00:43:15,479
Speaker 4: Verse ends up.

950
00:43:15,360 --> 00:43:17,200
Speaker 6: Hanging out at the line and then boom, there goes

951
00:43:17,239 --> 00:43:19,040
Speaker 6: the ball and he you know, hits his max speed

952
00:43:19,120 --> 00:43:20,480
Speaker 6: or whatnot and takes it to the crib.

953
00:43:20,520 --> 00:43:25,759
Speaker 5: But crazy Vikings fans are gonna have nightmares. But yeah,

954
00:43:25,840 --> 00:43:29,279
Speaker 5: you ruin their season, a couple teed off a couple

955
00:43:29,320 --> 00:43:30,840
Speaker 5: of different times. I'm wondering.

956
00:43:31,200 --> 00:43:33,759
Speaker 1: It's interesting hearing you talk because it's the thing I

957
00:43:33,800 --> 00:43:34,520
Speaker 1: love about football.

958
00:43:34,560 --> 00:43:36,719
Speaker 5: There there are so many levels to it.

959
00:43:36,800 --> 00:43:38,960
Speaker 1: You can enjoy it on the base level, and you

960
00:43:39,000 --> 00:43:42,080
Speaker 1: can listen to all the things that go into the

961
00:43:42,120 --> 00:43:45,759
Speaker 1: interior line play that. Yeah, I've covered the league for

962
00:43:45,920 --> 00:43:48,520
Speaker 1: twenty years and I have no idea, you know, I'm

963
00:43:48,600 --> 00:43:49,000
Speaker 1: learning that.

964
00:43:49,040 --> 00:43:51,240
Speaker 5: My point is, I'm like, I'm learning this stuff.

965
00:43:51,239 --> 00:43:53,520
Speaker 1: I don't I don't know about that stuff, of course, Yeah,

966
00:43:53,560 --> 00:43:57,360
Speaker 1: and it's great to learn about it. And as you're talking,

967
00:43:57,480 --> 00:43:59,680
Speaker 1: I am wondering, like, Okay, what is make what is

968
00:44:00,440 --> 00:44:04,440
Speaker 1: Kobe Turner? Make him like Kobe Turner? And I'm thinking

969
00:44:05,160 --> 00:44:08,120
Speaker 1: part of the equation might be that feeling of the aura.

970
00:44:08,000 --> 00:44:11,960
Speaker 4: One thousand percent. It's that it's the I'm very cerebral

971
00:44:12,000 --> 00:44:12,439
Speaker 4: with the game.

972
00:44:12,520 --> 00:44:15,760
Speaker 6: So you got these guys that are just super great athletes,

973
00:44:15,760 --> 00:44:19,480
Speaker 6: freak athletes, six seven long arms, you know, run a

974
00:44:19,200 --> 00:44:23,160
Speaker 6: for whatever, and those guys, you know, those are the

975
00:44:23,160 --> 00:44:25,640
Speaker 6: guys that get the power five offers out of high school.

976
00:44:25,640 --> 00:44:28,520
Speaker 6: Those are the guys that get into the league in

977
00:44:28,520 --> 00:44:31,680
Speaker 6: this game, right, And he's also a guy too who

978
00:44:31,719 --> 00:44:34,279
Speaker 6: he's combined that with you know, work ethic to be

979
00:44:34,320 --> 00:44:35,640
Speaker 6: able to get to where he's at and to be

980
00:44:35,680 --> 00:44:38,280
Speaker 6: able to impact the game at that level. But yeah,

981
00:44:38,360 --> 00:44:40,520
Speaker 6: and so for me, coming from a guy who is

982
00:44:40,560 --> 00:44:43,480
Speaker 6: a walk on, who is short, who has short arms,

983
00:44:43,920 --> 00:44:46,360
Speaker 6: all of these things, and I think it's a similar

984
00:44:46,600 --> 00:44:49,000
Speaker 6: path to what Ady has taken, and even a similar

985
00:44:49,040 --> 00:44:50,560
Speaker 6: path that I think if guys on our team like

986
00:44:50,760 --> 00:44:54,359
Speaker 6: Brandon Fisz Byron, young people who weren't looked at even

987
00:44:54,440 --> 00:44:57,480
Speaker 6: Jerry Verse, who weren't looked at as these star studded

988
00:44:57,480 --> 00:44:59,200
Speaker 6: athletes or anything like that, and who have had to

989
00:44:59,239 --> 00:45:02,279
Speaker 6: work their way up. You have to find everything that

990
00:45:02,320 --> 00:45:04,160
Speaker 6: you can do to make yourself great. And for me,

991
00:45:04,800 --> 00:45:08,479
Speaker 6: you know, I think that I put myself up there

992
00:45:08,520 --> 00:45:10,719
Speaker 6: because of the way that I approach the game and

993
00:45:10,760 --> 00:45:11,720
Speaker 6: the way that I'm prepared.

994
00:45:11,880 --> 00:45:14,840
Speaker 4: Right, you have so many people who go and watch.

995
00:45:14,600 --> 00:45:16,960
Speaker 6: The combine and they look at the forties and they're like, Okay,

996
00:45:17,040 --> 00:45:18,920
Speaker 6: whatever their ten split is, that's going to affect their

997
00:45:18,920 --> 00:45:21,520
Speaker 6: get off, Right, Whoever has the fastest ten split is

998
00:45:21,520 --> 00:45:23,439
Speaker 6: going to have the fastest get off. Well, I didn't

999
00:45:23,480 --> 00:45:25,239
Speaker 6: run the combine or I didn't run the forty. And

1000
00:45:25,280 --> 00:45:26,880
Speaker 6: the reason why I didn't run the forty is because

1001
00:45:26,920 --> 00:45:29,240
Speaker 6: it might have been in the five to two range

1002
00:45:29,400 --> 00:45:31,840
Speaker 6: or the five to three range, and somebody.

1003
00:45:31,440 --> 00:45:35,360
Speaker 7: From the normal humans, right, And somebody.

1004
00:45:35,000 --> 00:45:36,880
Speaker 4: Told me, don't do that. I don't have the fastest

1005
00:45:36,880 --> 00:45:37,319
Speaker 4: ten time.

1006
00:45:37,400 --> 00:45:39,160
Speaker 6: But then if you just look at the get off

1007
00:45:39,400 --> 00:45:42,600
Speaker 6: you know, in those past rushing situations, who's getting off

1008
00:45:42,640 --> 00:45:45,719
Speaker 6: the ball faster? And I can guarantee you that the

1009
00:45:45,800 --> 00:45:48,759
Speaker 6: reason why I can even put myself up there with

1010
00:45:49,040 --> 00:45:51,719
Speaker 6: getting off the ball fast and to even be, you know,

1011
00:45:52,000 --> 00:45:54,279
Speaker 6: beating most people off the ball, if not all people

1012
00:45:54,320 --> 00:45:56,080
Speaker 6: at the ball, is because of the things that I

1013
00:45:56,160 --> 00:45:59,080
Speaker 6: key on mentally that give me an extra advantage. So

1014
00:45:59,480 --> 00:46:01,920
Speaker 6: it's it's so interesting there. Like you said, there are

1015
00:46:01,960 --> 00:46:04,560
Speaker 6: so many different levels to the game of football. I

1016
00:46:04,600 --> 00:46:06,560
Speaker 6: have a I don't even think I have a master's

1017
00:46:06,600 --> 00:46:09,120
Speaker 6: degree in football. I have a PhD in football. Like,

1018
00:46:09,160 --> 00:46:11,400
Speaker 6: I study this game and that's what puts me in

1019
00:46:11,440 --> 00:46:12,400
Speaker 6: the positions.

1020
00:46:11,960 --> 00:46:12,399
Speaker 4: That I'm in.

1021
00:46:12,480 --> 00:46:15,440
Speaker 7: Can you imagine us talking to you three years from

1022
00:46:15,480 --> 00:46:17,120
Speaker 7: now and what you'll know, I mean, you.

1023
00:46:17,080 --> 00:46:18,120
Speaker 2: Already know so much.

1024
00:46:18,520 --> 00:46:19,120
Speaker 7: So here's the thing.

1025
00:46:19,200 --> 00:46:20,640
Speaker 8: So here's the thing that's cool. So I was in

1026
00:46:20,680 --> 00:46:23,120
Speaker 8: the draft house when they selected you, and I watched

1027
00:46:23,160 --> 00:46:25,440
Speaker 8: Henny like FaceTime, and he was so excited and like,

1028
00:46:25,520 --> 00:46:27,480
Speaker 8: I know that's your guy, and like he's he was

1029
00:46:27,560 --> 00:46:30,279
Speaker 8: keyed on you. Yeah, for so long, and a lot

1030
00:46:30,320 --> 00:46:32,520
Speaker 8: of their scouts were keen on you for a really

1031
00:46:32,560 --> 00:46:33,080
Speaker 8: long time.

1032
00:46:33,120 --> 00:46:35,480
Speaker 7: And I just remember them walking.

1033
00:46:35,200 --> 00:46:39,560
Speaker 8: Through and like and raw saying, we just got bleeping

1034
00:46:39,640 --> 00:46:40,400
Speaker 8: Grady Jarrett.

1035
00:46:40,600 --> 00:46:41,440
Speaker 7: Yeah, like that.

1036
00:46:41,560 --> 00:46:45,080
Speaker 8: They they already saw the ten year plan for you

1037
00:46:45,239 --> 00:46:48,439
Speaker 8: because of how impressed they were, not just with how

1038
00:46:48,520 --> 00:46:50,640
Speaker 8: you showed up on tape, because they don't really and

1039
00:46:50,760 --> 00:46:52,759
Speaker 8: you know this about their ams. Obviously you play there,

1040
00:46:52,760 --> 00:46:54,440
Speaker 8: but like they don't really look at a lot of

1041
00:46:54,440 --> 00:46:56,759
Speaker 8: the testing in terms of what they hold the most

1042
00:46:56,760 --> 00:46:59,160
Speaker 8: weight on. They watched tape and they go meet you

1043
00:46:59,239 --> 00:47:01,120
Speaker 8: and like they talk to you and all of these things,

1044
00:47:01,920 --> 00:47:06,440
Speaker 8: and they were so excited and so fired up to

1045
00:47:07,640 --> 00:47:11,239
Speaker 8: just they already had this vision for who you could

1046
00:47:11,320 --> 00:47:15,160
Speaker 8: be long term. And I think even to be a

1047
00:47:15,200 --> 00:47:18,640
Speaker 8: captain as as young as you are, it's not just

1048
00:47:18,680 --> 00:47:20,920
Speaker 8: really because I mean it's it's a young team, but

1049
00:47:20,960 --> 00:47:27,080
Speaker 8: it's there's some old guys on there too, But you're wait,

1050
00:47:31,040 --> 00:47:34,440
Speaker 8: fiance comes first, you know, are you gonna come?

1051
00:47:38,719 --> 00:47:39,520
Speaker 4: Okay? PEPSI.

1052
00:47:43,920 --> 00:47:46,239
Speaker 8: So also he knew you were I mean, I know

1053
00:47:46,280 --> 00:47:48,719
Speaker 8: you he you didn't tell anybody I know, but he

1054
00:47:48,840 --> 00:47:53,239
Speaker 8: recognized your voice, didn't didn't unmasked singer like ye, I know,

1055
00:47:53,239 --> 00:47:56,280
Speaker 8: because I know you didn't tell a soul, right, but

1056
00:47:56,280 --> 00:47:58,200
Speaker 8: but I know he reckoned. I feel like he recognized

1057
00:47:58,239 --> 00:47:59,759
Speaker 8: your voice when he was watching the show.

1058
00:48:00,080 --> 00:48:03,760
Speaker 6: Yeah, I didn't tell a soul that he's he's family,

1059
00:48:04,000 --> 00:48:08,120
Speaker 6: So I didn't tell a soul. Yeah, but no, all

1060
00:48:08,120 --> 00:48:10,319
Speaker 6: the all the all the homies, all of the all

1061
00:48:10,360 --> 00:48:13,000
Speaker 6: of the family and people, all of the family knows

1062
00:48:13,040 --> 00:48:14,880
Speaker 6: that right away, and he's family.

1063
00:48:14,960 --> 00:48:16,879
Speaker 5: That's a good point. If he has a pH D. Now,

1064
00:48:17,560 --> 00:48:19,680
Speaker 5: I don't know what happened. What's PhD?

1065
00:48:20,160 --> 00:48:22,920
Speaker 3: I don't know, but I'm looking forward to findings in

1066
00:48:23,040 --> 00:48:25,080
Speaker 3: advance on your future job as commissioner.

1067
00:48:27,520 --> 00:48:30,880
Speaker 1: Although I'm it's stuck in my head because I have

1068
00:48:31,040 --> 00:48:34,600
Speaker 1: just this image of it after you said it, Aaron

1069
00:48:34,640 --> 00:48:37,720
Speaker 1: Donald going through the hallway and just randomly like grabbing

1070
00:48:37,800 --> 00:48:40,239
Speaker 1: people's fairs to feel weakness points.

1071
00:48:39,920 --> 00:48:42,240
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's going to give me nightmares.

1072
00:48:42,400 --> 00:48:44,759
Speaker 7: Yeah, it happened to me.

1073
00:48:47,480 --> 00:48:52,040
Speaker 5: Anybody behavior, But I'm kind of like afraid of that.

1074
00:48:52,920 --> 00:48:56,000
Speaker 4: I would be afraid of that to one of the

1075
00:48:56,480 --> 00:48:57,200
Speaker 4: man's hands.

1076
00:48:57,239 --> 00:48:59,719
Speaker 7: But he would do this like he would go through

1077
00:48:59,760 --> 00:49:02,120
Speaker 7: walk through and stuff, and he would like traumatize these

1078
00:49:02,160 --> 00:49:02,840
Speaker 7: poor alignment.

1079
00:49:03,160 --> 00:49:06,000
Speaker 8: Although but like also Rob Havenstein was telling me it

1080
00:49:06,040 --> 00:49:08,000
Speaker 8: made them all better because they were like, oh am,

1081
00:49:08,000 --> 00:49:10,240
Speaker 8: I showing that, you know, is that obvious?

1082
00:49:10,280 --> 00:49:11,719
Speaker 7: And so I was asking him about it. That's when

1083
00:49:11,719 --> 00:49:14,120
Speaker 7: he demonstrated, and I was like, I did not sign.

1084
00:49:14,040 --> 00:49:14,359
Speaker 4: Up for this.

1085
00:49:15,800 --> 00:49:17,839
Speaker 6: I didn't think this was what I was, you know,

1086
00:49:18,040 --> 00:49:19,680
Speaker 6: signing up for when I lasked.

1087
00:49:20,000 --> 00:49:22,719
Speaker 1: So we're learning how you went off the snap, how

1088
00:49:22,800 --> 00:49:25,759
Speaker 1: you watch the centers, and we're even learning a little

1089
00:49:25,760 --> 00:49:28,200
Speaker 1: bit how the greatest of all time one one little

1090
00:49:28,200 --> 00:49:30,960
Speaker 1: piece of how he became the greatest of all time.

1091
00:49:31,000 --> 00:49:34,279
Speaker 1: He was Kobe Turner's mentor, and now Kobe Turner's has

1092
00:49:34,320 --> 00:49:36,240
Speaker 1: taken that mantle with the rams.

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00:49:36,280 --> 00:49:39,560
Speaker 5: Appreciate the time. This was awesome. It's been a great week.

1094
00:49:39,640 --> 00:49:42,760
Speaker 5: You know, it's spending the time to multiple times.

1095
00:49:42,880 --> 00:49:44,960
Speaker 6: This one went by very fast, so we have to

1096
00:49:45,040 --> 00:49:46,799
Speaker 6: We'll have to run this back sometimes we can.

1097
00:49:47,160 --> 00:49:49,480
Speaker 7: We're going to get you in studio. We've talked about this.

1098
00:49:49,520 --> 00:49:51,520
Speaker 8: We really want to get you in studio back in

1099
00:49:51,560 --> 00:49:52,880
Speaker 8: Los Angeles and all of that.

1100
00:49:52,920 --> 00:49:53,799
Speaker 7: It's going to be a lot of fun.

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00:49:53,880 --> 00:49:55,160
Speaker 5: Let's go appreciate you, Kobe.

1102
00:49:55,239 --> 00:49:55,680
Speaker 4: Thank you.

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00:49:55,719 --> 00:49:56,280
Speaker 7: Thanks, Kobe.

1104
00:49:56,400 --> 00:49:58,879
Speaker 1: All right, that was a lot of fun last week.

1105
00:49:59,000 --> 00:50:03,160
Speaker 1: I already both miss New Orleans and I'm very happy.

1106
00:50:03,200 --> 00:50:06,800
Speaker 1: My body is happy that I'm back home in rainy

1107
00:50:06,920 --> 00:50:12,480
Speaker 1: southern California. And Nick, before we go, I want to

1108
00:50:12,520 --> 00:50:17,080
Speaker 1: bring Eric back into the show because I had a

1109
00:50:17,160 --> 00:50:21,280
Speaker 1: major mental malfunction. Oh yeah, wrapping up in that trailer.

1110
00:50:21,320 --> 00:50:22,359
Speaker 1: Do you know what I'm talking about?

1111
00:50:22,440 --> 00:50:25,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, I know exactly what you're talking about. Time to

1112
00:50:25,080 --> 00:50:25,919
Speaker 2: make amends.

1113
00:50:26,320 --> 00:50:29,960
Speaker 1: So I go through and I thank everyone for the

1114
00:50:29,960 --> 00:50:34,320
Speaker 1: great week, really the great season we had. I'm staring

1115
00:50:34,440 --> 00:50:37,719
Speaker 1: straight at my notes because I you know, I did

1116
00:50:37,719 --> 00:50:39,160
Speaker 1: make sure. I just didn't. I was didn't want to

1117
00:50:39,160 --> 00:50:42,759
Speaker 1: forget anyone in a big moment. But one one name

1118
00:50:42,800 --> 00:50:45,040
Speaker 1: I did not write down because I just assume that's obvious.

1119
00:50:45,120 --> 00:50:47,759
Speaker 1: You don't need to write down. This name is the

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00:50:47,800 --> 00:50:51,600
Speaker 1: man that keeps this show on the track, our producer,

1121
00:50:52,440 --> 00:50:59,200
Speaker 1: Eric Roberts. No one puts more into this show. And look,

1122
00:50:59,880 --> 00:51:03,640
Speaker 1: you did a great job on around the NFL, and

1123
00:51:04,440 --> 00:51:08,960
Speaker 1: this shows has been even more on your plate and

1124
00:51:09,160 --> 00:51:11,640
Speaker 1: you just handled it and handle it all in like

1125
00:51:11,719 --> 00:51:15,840
Speaker 1: the coolest la Hey, it's no big deal, way possible.

1126
00:51:16,160 --> 00:51:18,800
Speaker 1: You got your bills. You got your Dodgers winning titles,

1127
00:51:18,840 --> 00:51:20,839
Speaker 1: you got your bills winning a lot of games, and

1128
00:51:21,560 --> 00:51:24,200
Speaker 1: I felt like such an idiot. Like five minutes after,

1129
00:51:24,280 --> 00:51:27,640
Speaker 1: I'm just apologizing to the guy. Eric Roberts. The guy

1130
00:51:27,640 --> 00:51:30,480
Speaker 1: should be thanking first. So Eric, you're the man. I

1131
00:51:30,560 --> 00:51:33,319
Speaker 1: just needed the listeners to know how much he's the man. Well,

1132
00:51:33,320 --> 00:51:34,000
Speaker 1: I appreciate it.

1133
00:51:34,040 --> 00:51:35,719
Speaker 9: The best part is when you did realize it, and

1134
00:51:35,760 --> 00:51:37,839
Speaker 9: I'm like standing in a parking lot trying to get

1135
00:51:37,880 --> 00:51:40,719
Speaker 9: files transferred and it's like holding a laptop trying to

1136
00:51:40,719 --> 00:51:43,279
Speaker 9: find Wi Fi, and you're like so apologetic. Oh my dude,

1137
00:51:43,320 --> 00:51:46,359
Speaker 9: it's okay, it's okay, it's not that big a deal.

1138
00:51:46,680 --> 00:51:49,160
Speaker 3: I'm standing there drinking, and I'm drinking an orange juice.

1139
00:51:49,360 --> 00:51:52,640
Speaker 3: We're all like on the verge of just careening towards sickness.

1140
00:51:53,200 --> 00:51:55,759
Speaker 3: Eric's got his laptop holding it up. It's dark, we're

1141
00:51:55,760 --> 00:51:58,640
Speaker 3: outside a trailer. We're in like the back corner of

1142
00:51:58,640 --> 00:52:01,359
Speaker 3: where all this setup is. And Greg's like, oh my god,

1143
00:52:01,400 --> 00:52:03,840
Speaker 3: I can't believe I forgot him. And as he was

1144
00:52:03,880 --> 00:52:06,320
Speaker 3: reading those things off, I'm like thinking, did he already

1145
00:52:06,320 --> 00:52:06,560
Speaker 3: say it?

1146
00:52:06,600 --> 00:52:09,240
Speaker 2: And I just missed it? No, And we totally understood.

1147
00:52:09,239 --> 00:52:12,200
Speaker 3: And Eric as always just like dude, no worries, and

1148
00:52:12,239 --> 00:52:15,359
Speaker 3: he's more focused on uploading than anything, which is classic Eric.

1149
00:52:15,640 --> 00:52:17,600
Speaker 3: The same guy that I saw in the concourse at

1150
00:52:17,640 --> 00:52:21,200
Speaker 3: the Superdome twelve hours earlier, who couldn't be happier and

1151
00:52:21,280 --> 00:52:24,640
Speaker 3: more excited to take on the day, finishing strong, and

1152
00:52:24,680 --> 00:52:26,759
Speaker 3: it just rolls right off his back. He knows Greg,

1153
00:52:26,800 --> 00:52:28,759
Speaker 3: he doesn't hear the words of affirmation, and.

1154
00:52:28,680 --> 00:52:30,600
Speaker 1: I think you had a great week. You're in that

1155
00:52:30,760 --> 00:52:33,400
Speaker 1: ox box, he had those nice seats. It was like,

1156
00:52:34,520 --> 00:52:35,760
Speaker 1: it is very cool.

1157
00:52:36,040 --> 00:52:36,960
Speaker 5: You know, you.

1158
00:52:38,760 --> 00:52:42,520
Speaker 1: Keep this show going. And look, we need to get you.

1159
00:52:43,320 --> 00:52:45,439
Speaker 1: We need to get you a full time job. I'm

1160
00:52:45,520 --> 00:52:47,560
Speaker 1: just putting this out there publicly. Yeah, I don't care

1161
00:52:47,680 --> 00:52:51,640
Speaker 1: the NFL manifest it not coming correct. It's absolutely ridiculous.

1162
00:52:51,760 --> 00:52:55,719
Speaker 1: And I just appreciate you and everything you do. And

1163
00:52:55,960 --> 00:52:58,799
Speaker 1: Chris Babona and Gavin Cansell who came in late in

1164
00:52:58,800 --> 00:53:01,359
Speaker 1: the season. Chris was about half way through. Obviously, Randy

1165
00:53:01,440 --> 00:53:05,200
Speaker 1: Chavez contributed a ton to this show and we thanked

1166
00:53:05,280 --> 00:53:08,160
Speaker 1: him when he left. But Chris and Gavin we're back

1167
00:53:08,239 --> 00:53:11,399
Speaker 1: in LA helping with the edits and working really hard

1168
00:53:11,400 --> 00:53:16,040
Speaker 1: and obviously filling in for Eric too when necessary. So

1169
00:53:16,120 --> 00:53:18,319
Speaker 1: they were awesome all year long. But yeah, we're not

1170
00:53:18,360 --> 00:53:19,839
Speaker 1: We're not done. Like I said, we got a show

1171
00:53:19,880 --> 00:53:25,040
Speaker 1: on Friday. I actually saw a note on Threads by

1172
00:53:25,080 --> 00:53:26,920
Speaker 1: Tom Brady. We can we can put that up if

1173
00:53:26,960 --> 00:53:31,360
Speaker 1: you're watching on YouTube, and he just he sends it

1174
00:53:31,400 --> 00:53:35,200
Speaker 1: out how long until football season? And I just wanted

1175
00:53:35,280 --> 00:53:38,799
Speaker 1: to say, officially, Nick, football is not back. It's too old.

1176
00:53:39,200 --> 00:53:39,920
Speaker 1: You can't ask that.

1177
00:53:40,480 --> 00:53:44,640
Speaker 2: You're right, it's uh, we have officially hit the is it?

1178
00:53:44,719 --> 00:53:47,600
Speaker 2: Is it true? The off season is that thing?

1179
00:53:47,840 --> 00:53:51,000
Speaker 1: It's actually greg season. We're going with this free agency period,

1180
00:53:51,719 --> 00:53:54,799
Speaker 1: but no football. Sorry, Tom, that was that was too premature.

1181
00:53:55,040 --> 00:53:56,560
Speaker 1: I don't know how much you're getting paid to like

1182
00:53:56,760 --> 00:53:59,400
Speaker 1: still post on Threads. I only saw that because you

1183
00:53:59,400 --> 00:54:02,680
Speaker 1: know on instat they put the little messages in between,

1184
00:54:02,960 --> 00:54:05,319
Speaker 1: and I was like, how I was thinking how much

1185
00:54:05,360 --> 00:54:08,880
Speaker 1: percentage of Threads traffic is just from people clicking on that,

1186
00:54:08,920 --> 00:54:12,040
Speaker 1: because that's one hundred percent of my Threads involvement over

1187
00:54:12,080 --> 00:54:14,239
Speaker 1: the last few years. I'm like, well, maybe that'd be

1188
00:54:14,280 --> 00:54:18,920
Speaker 1: good for the show. Let's click on Tom Brady there, it's.

1189
00:54:18,760 --> 00:54:21,600
Speaker 3: My traffic as well, and you know what. I'll say this,

1190
00:54:22,160 --> 00:54:24,040
Speaker 3: We've all earned a bit of a break, but NFL

1191
00:54:24,120 --> 00:54:26,279
Speaker 3: Daily does not stop, and football may not be back,

1192
00:54:26,320 --> 00:54:27,760
Speaker 3: but it's right around the corner.

1193
00:54:27,880 --> 00:54:29,960
Speaker 2: So don't you worry. We'll be here the whole time

1194
00:54:30,440 --> 00:54:30,719
Speaker 2: it is.

1195
00:54:30,760 --> 00:54:32,880
Speaker 1: We're gonna we have a lot of great shows planned.

1196
00:54:32,960 --> 00:54:36,319
Speaker 1: I was really excited because the daily format offers us

1197
00:54:36,320 --> 00:54:37,920
Speaker 1: a chance to kind of attack it in a different way.

1198
00:54:37,960 --> 00:54:39,560
Speaker 1: I used to do it with writing, with all these

1199
00:54:39,560 --> 00:54:41,640
Speaker 1: different articles of who's going to get cut? Like today

1200
00:54:41,840 --> 00:54:43,520
Speaker 1: the tag primer, We're going to talk about some trades

1201
00:54:43,520 --> 00:54:45,200
Speaker 1: coming up, We're going to do some off season previews.

1202
00:54:45,320 --> 00:54:47,200
Speaker 1: Really excited for all that that's coming up in the

1203
00:54:47,239 --> 00:54:49,759
Speaker 1: next couple of weeks. As we head to the Combine too,

1204
00:54:51,480 --> 00:54:53,280
Speaker 1: that's only a week and a half away. I can't

1205
00:54:53,800 --> 00:54:57,600
Speaker 1: freaking believe it. Yes, for Eric killing it all year long,

1206
00:54:57,680 --> 00:55:01,080
Speaker 1: and Chris and Gavin and Nick, you don't you don't

1207
00:55:01,080 --> 00:55:05,399
Speaker 1: even seem like you're you're playing hurt. Yeah, when Aaron

1208
00:55:05,480 --> 00:55:08,640
Speaker 1: Rodgers has burned bridges with a new team, it's sick.

1209
00:55:08,680 --> 00:55:10,200
Speaker 1: Oh season, It's Greg's season.

1210
00:55:11,080 --> 00:55:14,920
Speaker 8: H m hm.