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Speaker 3: the week, all right. So in Thailand, this guy says
Speaker 3: he woke up around ten o'clock in the morning on
Speaker 3: a Sunday, you know when most people wake up for
Speaker 3: the day. The first thing they do is go to
Speaker 3: the bathroom. So he goes to the bathroom, and he
Speaker 3: said that just out of habit, he flushed the toilet
Speaker 3: because they have monsoons in Thailand and sometimes it could
Speaker 3: cause you know, like reptiles or little creatures to get
Speaker 3: in the plumbing. So he did take this step to
Speaker 3: flush the toilet first. So he sits down on the
Speaker 3: toilet and then almost immediately feels a sharp pain in
Speaker 3: his scrotum. Yeah, and the story, the way that the
Speaker 3: story describes, it's even better that it says snake chomps
Speaker 3: on nuts. So, yeah, a snake was in his toilet
Speaker 3: and bit his testicles. And there's photos of him and
Speaker 3: videos of him tackling this python that ended up being
Speaker 3: in his toilet. Luckily it was non venomous, but there
Speaker 3: was blood on the toilet seat, which you just have
Speaker 3: to assume came from his testicles, right, which is terribly scary.
Speaker 3: Do you actually remember back in April we talked about
Speaker 3: this that a rat bit somebody that was in the toilet. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 3: So apparently this is a problem in Thailand. I guess
Speaker 3: I never even heard of that. I just I was
Speaker 3: kind of blown away by the rat being in the toilet.
Speaker 3: I didn't really ever think about it, and now it's
Speaker 3: just it's really disturbing. But anatomically speaking, there's not a
Speaker 3: major artery there, like a carotid artery that would kill
Speaker 3: you if it got punctured. Obviously it drew some blood.
Speaker 3: I think the biggest thing is is the risk of
Speaker 3: infection here, because you're essentially and this is really gross,
Speaker 3: but toilet water isn't sterile, so there's remnants of a
Speaker 3: poop and pee in it, and you're essentially injecting it
Speaker 3: right into your testicle with the tooth of the snake.
Speaker 3: So I think infection would be his biggest problem to
Speaker 3: look for the next couple of days.
Speaker 2: Well, I was thinking, it really sucks to you know,
Speaker 2: be like kind of aware that this is a problem
Speaker 2: and take the steps to flush the toilet. But then
Speaker 2: he said after the bike, he tried to grip the
Speaker 2: snake and the snake was holding on so strongly, so
Speaker 2: I guess when he flushed, you know, the snake was
Speaker 2: able to you know, what, what is that little bit
Speaker 2: of water pressure gonna do to take the snake away?
Speaker 2: You know, when it's that large, so that didn't really
Speaker 2: work out. And then you know, he couldn't get the
Speaker 2: snake out, so he had to take a toilet brush
Speaker 2: and beat it to death until it died to just
Speaker 2: finally end the situation. So, I don't know, this sounds
Speaker 2: kind of reirable. I wonder if this is frowned upon.
Speaker 3: I was just I was just listening to a story
Speaker 3: in a new in the news about someone that killed
Speaker 3: a rat that was in their garden in New Jersey,
Speaker 3: and it was like this big scandal. He got in
Speaker 3: trouble for it. He might have even served some jail
Speaker 3: time for it.
Speaker 2: Jail tie.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and you're and you're like, what, what's the line
Speaker 3: of what you're allowed to do? I guess the thing
Speaker 3: injured him and he felt like his life was in
Speaker 3: danger because the thing bit his testicles, I don't know,
Speaker 3: chomped on his nutsack, as.
Speaker 2: The story says. I don't know, like, is he in
Speaker 2: trouble because it was outside, because doesn't everybody that uses
Speaker 2: a mouse or rat trap or rat poison.
Speaker 3: Well, that's exactly what I was thinking. I was like, Oh,
Speaker 3: it's cool if it's in your house and you use
Speaker 3: a trap.
Speaker 2: But I don't know. Yeah, whatever it was.
Speaker 3: So because believe me, if it's in my house, it's
Speaker 3: not coming back out. Well, I had a little mouse
Speaker 3: in my house yesterday in our office. It was so cute.
Speaker 2: Actually, it was a little baby, and.
Speaker 3: It's I just think it's kind of a weird time
Speaker 3: of year because usually they would come in when it
Speaker 3: gets cold out and it's still hot. I think it
Speaker 3: was because we had the door open all weekend. Yeah,
Speaker 3: like the kids were just in and out or whatever.
Speaker 3: But that my cat like torture and the shit out
Speaker 3: of this poor little guy. And finally Gabe took it
Speaker 3: outside and just because he was just like, he's not
Speaker 3: even killing it. The cat's not even killing it, she's
Speaker 3: just torturing it. So yeah, I don't I mean, nobody
Speaker 3: wants that shit in their house. All right, let's get
Speaker 3: started with celebrity news.
Speaker 2: So some really crazy news. So Mariah Carey released a
Speaker 2: statement yesterday that her mother and sister both died on
Speaker 2: the same day over the weekend. Yeah, and there's not
Speaker 2: really much details yet, so of course we'll have an
Speaker 2: update once that comes out. But we've heard about this
Speaker 2: before in rare circumstances where people in the same family
Speaker 2: die in the same day. And obviously in cases of
Speaker 2: like murder suicide, that would make sense, but in natural
Speaker 2: cases of death, it's it's it's very unusual and rare. Yeah, well,
Speaker 2: I don't hear. So her mother was eighty seven, the
Speaker 2: sister was sixty three. I'm not sure about the mother,
Speaker 2: but I know this sister. I read her book that
Speaker 2: came out in twenty twenty, and I know her sister
Speaker 2: had problems with drugs most of her life, so I
Speaker 2: don't know if that was a contributing factor. She actually
Speaker 2: has a quote from her book that was when I
Speaker 2: was twelve years old, my sister drugged me with valume,
Speaker 2: offered me a pinky nail full of cocaine, and then
Speaker 2: tried to sell me out to a pimp, to which
Speaker 2: her sister, who was twenty years old at the time
Speaker 2: of this accusation, so that she was twenty. Mariah was
Speaker 2: twelve when this went down. So Mariah recounts this in
Speaker 2: her twenty twenty memoir, and then her sister sued her
Speaker 2: after the book came out, saying it was outrageous to
Speaker 2: claim and she was trying to get a million dollars
Speaker 2: out of it, but her and her family had pretty
Speaker 2: tumultuous relationships.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean yeah, her sister was a strange I
Speaker 3: don't know if she was from her mom though, but
Speaker 3: she had I know that she had a home break
Speaker 3: in years ago and someone actually beat her with a baseball.
Speaker 2: Bat and she got break. No the sister.
Speaker 3: Oh, and she had brain trauma for a while, and
Speaker 3: like you said, said she was in and out of
Speaker 3: homelessness as well as drugs. So I did see an
Speaker 3: article that said that her death was expected.
Speaker 2: They knew it was coming.
Speaker 3: It seems like she was on some kind of hospice.
Speaker 3: So I'm not sure what happened with the mom too.
Speaker 3: But sometimes we see cases like this. The most famous
Speaker 3: one is Carrie Fisher and Debbie Reynolds died either on
Speaker 3: the same day or within a few days of each other,
Speaker 3: and their mother daughter actresses. And there is a condition
Speaker 3: that happens sometimes that you see that you have a
Speaker 3: heart You basically have a heart attack at a response
Speaker 3: to a severe emotional stress in your life, and it's
Speaker 3: called Takatsubo cardio my ideas, So it's a special thing
Speaker 3: that happens to certain people. We actually wrote it's also
Speaker 3: called heartbreak syndrome, which is more commonly referred to. Back
Speaker 3: at Valentine's Day time, I wrote a high profile death
Speaker 3: dissection on this particular cause of death and gave some
Speaker 3: real life examples and when it happened. Johnny Cash and
Speaker 3: his wife died within months of each other, the same
Speaker 3: with Barbara Bush and her husband, and they were married
Speaker 3: for such a long time. And there's this, there's this,
Speaker 3: It's not even just a theory. It could actually really
Speaker 3: be proven that you can die from a broken heart basically.
Speaker 3: So I don't know if the mom was close with
Speaker 3: the sister or it could just like straight up be incidental,
Speaker 3: like coincidental, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm sure more information will come out over time
Speaker 2: about it. Like you said, it could be the heartbreak thing.
Speaker 2: Like I don't know what was going on. I just
Speaker 2: can't imagine a loss like that. Even if you are
Speaker 2: estranged from, you know, a family member, it doesn't make
Speaker 2: it hurt any less that they pass away. So Yeah,
Speaker 2: and especially I always imagine for a parent that has
Speaker 2: a child that has all of these problems their entire life,
Speaker 2: that it is very it's very hard to deal with
Speaker 2: their death after a while, and maybe that just that
Speaker 2: was enough to set her into having issues. I don't know.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's just it's it sucks for Maria Carrey because,
Speaker 3: like you said, even though they were having problems and stuff,
Speaker 3: it's just like a lot to.
Speaker 2: Emotionally deal with at one time. No for sure. So
Speaker 2: this next story could truly be an entire episode in itself,
Speaker 2: but I'll try my best to summarize because it just
Speaker 2: gets like crazier and crazier as the story develops. So
Speaker 2: this guy, Mike Lynch, he's apparently like the Steve Jobs
Speaker 2: of the United Kingdom. He's just this mega tech entrepreneur.
Speaker 2: He's worth a lot of money. So he his family
Speaker 2: and some friends were on this mega yacht that his
Speaker 2: wife's company owned. They were in Italy and the weather
Speaker 2: was supposed to be like this awesome day. So the
Speaker 2: yachts captain decided to you know, anchor slightly off to port,
Speaker 2: which is not unusual for yachts. You always. I mean,
Speaker 2: I've never personally experienced being on a yacht, but I've
Speaker 2: seen pictures of them floating right off the port, so
Speaker 2: I only imagine that's a normal occurrence. So suddenly this
Speaker 2: extreme weather event happened called a water spout, which is,
Speaker 2: to my belief, this like tornado that happens over a
Speaker 2: body of water. So like, of course, you know, one
Speaker 2: of my number one fears is tornadoes. So all I'm
Speaker 2: thinking about is us going on this cruise next year
Speaker 2: and this happening totally irrational fear. So within minutes of
Speaker 2: this water spot occurring, the yacht sank, which it was
Speaker 2: supposed to be, this unsinkable ship. So there's all these
Speaker 2: questions about what happened. So twenty two people had been
Speaker 2: on board, only fifteen survived. All of those survivors were
Speaker 2: found on a life raft in the seven people that
Speaker 2: died was Mike Lynch, his daughter, his lawyer, three other guests,
Speaker 2: and a crew member. So when news broke up this
Speaker 2: yacht sinking, all these conspiracies started flying in because apparently
Speaker 2: Mike and his business partner had been in this twelve
Speaker 2: year long legal battle over the sale of their company.
Speaker 2: They were accused of fraud by the people that bought
Speaker 2: the company, and only days before the yacht sank and
Speaker 2: Mike died, his business partner had been on a run
Speaker 2: and hit by a car.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that I mean, listen, it would sound shady to me,
Speaker 3: but like you can't create a tornado to kill somebody.
Speaker 3: That's kind of ridiculous.
Speaker 2: No, totally. But also on their.
Speaker 3: Waterspout whatever you guys are calling it.
Speaker 2: So also somebody that died on the boat was their
Speaker 2: lawyer that helped them win this case. So apparently them
Speaker 2: going on this boat was like their way of celebrating
Speaker 2: this huge win after over a decade long legal battle.
Speaker 2: So of course, like to your point, you guess somebody
Speaker 2: could have hit the guy and killed him on purpose
Speaker 2: right with their car, but you can't like manifest this
Speaker 2: rare weather event. Except as of today, the yachts captain
Speaker 2: is now under investigation for manslaughter because they believed that
Speaker 2: maybe the crew didn't take the proper steps when the
Speaker 2: weather event was coming and they had had some warning
Speaker 2: of it and that's what caused the yacht to sink. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 3: This whole story is so outrageous. It's yeah, it's like
Speaker 3: it's like a rich people thing. I just can't really
Speaker 3: relate to going on some one of these kinds of
Speaker 3: crazy boats. I think the fanciest boat I've ever been
Speaker 3: on is like the ferry to Martha's vineyard. So they
Speaker 3: they found some of they haven't found everyone yet, right.
Speaker 2: I think they found six of the seven people.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so it's it's going to be a rough recovery
Speaker 3: because when you die in a body of water, that
Speaker 3: that just causes the body to decompose faster. And I
Speaker 3: believe that the water at this time has been up
Speaker 3: to eighty six degrees fahrenheit, which is really freakin' hot
Speaker 3: for water.
Speaker 2: I guess.
Speaker 3: So what happens is when the body's decomposing in water,
Speaker 3: it accelerates, and it definitely could accelerate when the temperature
Speaker 3: is increased that high, and once the bacteria and the
Speaker 3: body starts growing more and more, it puts off gases
Speaker 3: and essentially inflates the body like a balloon and they
Speaker 3: float up to the top. But in this case, it's
Speaker 3: less likely to happen when there's such a deep body
Speaker 3: of water that so this is fifteen meters or like
Speaker 3: one hundred and fifty feet deep, it's really deep, so
Speaker 3: there is a chance that that body will never float
Speaker 3: to the surface.
Speaker 2: Honestly.
Speaker 3: I mean that's where it might even be deeper than that,
Speaker 3: but that's how far down they found the yacht.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and now some authorities are coming out saying it
Speaker 2: wasn't a water spout, it was a downburst, which is
Speaker 2: I'm like, what's the freaking difference? When I was looking
Speaker 2: it up. A downburst So you know, when a tornado
Speaker 2: starts in the sky, it's like cycling wind, right, So
Speaker 2: a downburst is apparently a really strong gust of wind
Speaker 2: straight down instead of in a cycling motion. So I'm like,
Speaker 2: it's the same, It's the same weather event like these
Speaker 2: these this alleged conspira see that somebody killed them, right,
Speaker 2: It's like, you can't you can't create either natural disaster.
Speaker 3: Well people and people of the crew I'm assuming died
Speaker 3: as well.
Speaker 2: One crew member died, okay, so why would why would?
Speaker 3: I mean, I get that the guy is getting in
Speaker 3: trouble for manslaughter if he was being negligent, But I
Speaker 3: I think it's just coincidental.
Speaker 2: Maybe maybe they didn't deserve.
Speaker 3: To win the lawsuit and it's like a karma thing.
Speaker 2: I don't know, honestly. One of the worst details of
Speaker 2: the story for me is that one of the survivors
Speaker 2: was this woman that had a one year old baby
Speaker 2: and the baby also survived, but she fell in the
Speaker 2: water and held the baby above the water while she
Speaker 2: was trying to swim to safety.
Speaker 3: What wasn't wasn't one of the guy that died. Didn't
Speaker 3: he have a wife and a baby on there too?
Speaker 3: Was it that guy? Was it his wife? I don't
Speaker 3: know if I thought it was one of the guests babies.
Speaker 3: But his wife did survive, but their eighteen year old
Speaker 3: daughter did pass away with him. They found her as well,
Speaker 3: So it's real. It's really horrible.
Speaker 2: They're saying that because I think this happened in the
Speaker 2: middle of the night, that you know, most of the
Speaker 2: people that died on the ship were sleeping and didn't
Speaker 2: know was coming, and they were found in like the
Speaker 2: bedrooms of the boat underwater. But as far as this
Speaker 2: manslaughter charge goes, they can't, which I think is kind
Speaker 2: of crazy to be investigating this guy. But they're saying
Speaker 2: that they have to wait till they pull the remainder
Speaker 2: of the shipwreck out before they continue investigating it and
Speaker 2: like determine whether he was at fault or not for
Speaker 2: not taking proper procedure because a nearby boat that also
Speaker 2: would have been affected by the weather event came out
Speaker 2: totally fine. So they're like, well, what happened with this boat? Right? Yeah,
Speaker 2: I don't know. It's very weird, right, yeah, but I do.
Speaker 2: I do think this is purely just coincidence that this
Speaker 2: guy died. You know, you can you can theorize all
Speaker 2: you want about whatever happened with the business partner whatever,
Speaker 2: but like you can't like hire a hitman to create
Speaker 2: a tornado bed of water.
Speaker 3: So I tried to know, I'm like, just kind of stories,
Speaker 3: just kind of boring to me, honestly. All right, let's
Speaker 3: get on to an update with Richard Simmons.
Speaker 2: All right, So new information has come out about Richard Simmons'
Speaker 2: cause of death, So why don't you explain what the
Speaker 2: medical examiner had to say. So I guess back in.
Speaker 3: July he died, remember when we talked about that, But
Speaker 3: they really didn't have any information. They just said it
Speaker 3: was pending further investigation. So we did hear that he
Speaker 3: possibly fell, and then we also heard that he was
Speaker 3: having he didn't feel well.
Speaker 2: So what happened is he goes to.
Speaker 3: The medical examiner and maybe they did the autopsy and
Speaker 3: they couldn't tell exactly right away. So they say, pending
Speaker 3: for their studies, so they do toxicology and stuff too.
Speaker 3: His toxicology was negative except for the medications that he
Speaker 3: was taking, and they determined that his cause of death
Speaker 3: was accidental due to blunt force injuries, but there was
Speaker 3: also cardiovascular disease was a contributing factor. So it's likely
Speaker 3: that he could have had a heart attack or something
Speaker 3: and that would but survived it because people don't always
Speaker 3: die when they have a heart attack and fell and
Speaker 3: hit his head, and maybe when he fell and hit
Speaker 3: his head, he had more of a slow bleed inside
Speaker 3: of his head that took a while to really take
Speaker 3: him down, and that's and that was ultimately what caused
Speaker 3: his death. But they would have been able.
Speaker 2: I think they.
Speaker 3: Specifically said that he had, oh yeah, arterial sclerotic disease
Speaker 3: of his coronary arteries, so they were able to determine
Speaker 3: that he had he had, you know, natural heart damage
Speaker 3: that caused him to fall.
Speaker 2: So that's what that means, that he had naturally Yeah, okay.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so he just he had that that but they
Speaker 3: were saying that he so even though they see the
Speaker 3: heart damage, they're still going to say that what really
Speaker 3: killed them because the injury that looks the worst is
Speaker 3: whatever was happening in his head.
Speaker 2: I'm assume.
Speaker 3: I don't know if they really ever said that. I
Speaker 3: feel like last time they did say he hit his
Speaker 3: head when he fell, I don't remember. I mean, you
Speaker 3: could die from other blunt trauma too, but that's kind
Speaker 3: of a common one, when you hit your head and
Speaker 3: then you don't go get it checked out and you die,
Speaker 3: you know later, because it's it's more of a slow
Speaker 3: bleed from a vein rather than an artery.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Bob sag it, right.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean his was His was a little bit
Speaker 3: different though, because he that was fast, so he I'm
Speaker 3: sure if someone was in the room with him. I
Speaker 3: always say this, if someone was in the room with him,
Speaker 3: he could have probably survived that, but it was too
Speaker 3: late by the time someone found them after a whole
Speaker 3: night's sleep, you know what I mean. I still see
Speaker 3: all these people being like he was murdered, and I
Speaker 3: just really urge everybody to read the dissection we did
Speaker 3: on him, because I think you really, you know, explain
Speaker 3: how easily it could happen to anybody, and that's nothing
Speaker 3: nefarious was necessarily tied to it. So it just it
Speaker 3: happens a lot. And you know, when you think about
Speaker 3: whenever you get injured, especially you hit your head, right,
Speaker 3: think about going to the emergency room is like the
Speaker 3: worst thing in the world for everybody. It's just my
Speaker 3: dad fell down the porch steps at my house last
Speaker 3: summer and he hit his head on the sidewalk. And
Speaker 3: my first thing is when anybody hits their head, just like,
Speaker 3: go get it checked out. Especially he whacked his head
Speaker 3: on cement, like I watched it happen, right. But then
Speaker 3: it's like they don't feel like, what was it Sunday night,
Speaker 3: it was already dark out. They didn't feel like sitting
Speaker 3: in the er all night. It's just like this big hassle. Oh,
Speaker 3: we'll just watch them. And then what happens is people
Speaker 3: go to sleep and then they never wake up because
Speaker 3: a regular person might not know all the signs to
Speaker 3: look for when someone has like a serious head injury.
Speaker 3: That's why I always urge people if you hit your head,
Speaker 3: just get it checked out. But you understand that people
Speaker 3: just don't want.
Speaker 2: To deal with it.
Speaker 3: You know what media for sure, because going to the
Speaker 3: emergency room is like five to fifteen hours of your time.
Speaker 2: No, it sucks.
Speaker 3: It's for them to just say like, oh yeah, it's fine.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 3: So people take the risk and unfortunately it's doesn't work out.
Speaker 3: And someone, especially someone that's more famous like Richard Simmons,
Speaker 3: like he might not have wanted all the paparazzi and
Speaker 3: media attention that would have surrounded him going to the
Speaker 3: hospital for something, you know what. Oh yeah, so it's
Speaker 3: it's really sad. And he was he was such a
Speaker 3: cool guy, you know.
Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, freak accidents in California. These three hikers
Speaker 2: from Utah were trekking along this popular trail, so when
Speaker 2: they got to the end, one of them decided to
Speaker 2: jump into this quote little pool. Did you see the
Speaker 2: pictures of this thing?
Speaker 3: So honestly, I did see the pictures of it, and
Speaker 3: it looks really it looks like cool kind.
Speaker 2: Of no, it looks really cool. It's apparently this spot
Speaker 2: that's really photogenic. A lot of people go there to
Speaker 2: take cool pictures and stuff. And I underst just from
Speaker 2: seeing even the shitty picture of the article ahead, I'm like,
Speaker 2: I totally understand. You know, if the water looks beautiful,
Speaker 2: it's in a really cool part. So this woman jumps
Speaker 2: in the water, and then she doesn't resurface right away,
Speaker 2: so her friends start freaking out. They realized she was
Speaker 2: probably swept up by the undercurrent, and they jump in
Speaker 2: and try to save her, and they also got trapped
Speaker 2: because there was a whirlpool that nobody realized was happening.
Speaker 2: They thought this like log in the middle was creating
Speaker 2: this circular kind of current, but it was really this
Speaker 2: mini whirlpool happening. Yeah.
Speaker 3: I don't know anything about that. I always see videos
Speaker 3: of people jumping into things like that, and I always
Speaker 3: get scared because I think, like, how do you know
Speaker 3: there's not a giant rock like right under the surface
Speaker 3: of the water that you're going to hit or something.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 3: It just freaks me out, but I do. I can
Speaker 3: see the pictures so beautiful that people would want to
Speaker 3: do that. It looks cool, and it's just really unfortunate
Speaker 3: to be on a trip experience in just like fun
Speaker 3: with your friends and having to deal with something like that,
Speaker 3: you know.
Speaker 2: Yeah, So all three of them unfortunately ended up losing
Speaker 2: consciousness and they were able to be pulled out of
Speaker 2: the water and witnesses perform CPR, but Unfortunately none of
Speaker 2: them survived it, So such a bomber. It is a
Speaker 2: bummer because you're just trying to have like a nice
Speaker 2: fun day with some of your friends and then you know,
Speaker 2: just something so dumb.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and imagine, I mean, how many were on the trip.
Speaker 3: Imagine just how traumatic that is to lose three of
Speaker 3: your friends like that.
Speaker 2: That's terrible. Yeah. So this next story, I'm sure is
Speaker 2: one of your number one pet peeves. By the hot
Speaker 2: word used. It is in the title electrocution. So on
Speaker 2: Sunday in Indiana, two adults and three kids were swimming
Speaker 2: in a pool. Police were called to the house after
Speaker 2: all of them were quote electrocuted, even though they were
Speaker 2: technically only shocked because none of them died.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that word is overly used. But if it said
Speaker 3: if the titles had multiple people shocked in a swimming pool,
Speaker 3: nobody would open the article. That's why they do it,
Speaker 3: and they don't care that it's wrong there, you know
Speaker 3: what I mean, It's just more shocking to read an
Speaker 3: article about that. But they were saying that there was
Speaker 3: a wire from the pool pump that was pinched, causing
Speaker 3: the protective cover to be exposed, and then that wire
Speaker 3: had contact with the pool water, which caused all of
Speaker 3: these people to get shocked. I think the biggest thing
Speaker 3: that you need to be concerned about with getting an
Speaker 3: electric shock is obviously because your heart beats, and your
Speaker 3: heartbeat is based off of electrical activity in your heart,
Speaker 3: so it could cause an a rhythm or an irregular heartbeat,
Speaker 3: which could kill you. So that's a huge concern. You
Speaker 3: also can get burns from electric shocks, and they probably
Speaker 3: just I don't know. It doesn't say what happened to them.
Speaker 3: They didn't die, It didn't say how bad it was, but.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it just said they went to the hospital and
Speaker 2: the kids had gone to a separate hospital to receive
Speaker 2: further treatment. But so this gets me, So this gets
Speaker 2: me th A couple of people this weekend I had
Speaker 2: that I did like a porch and garden tour of
Speaker 2: my house for my side hobby, and a couple people
Speaker 2: were like.
Speaker 3: Oh, you should rent your pool out on this. There's
Speaker 3: like an app, yeah, like Airbnb for swimming pools. And
Speaker 3: of course, me being me, my first thought is, well,
Speaker 3: what happens when somebody drowns or hits their.
Speaker 2: Head exactly in my pool? Are they gonna assume me
Speaker 2: or something.
Speaker 3: And I didn't even really look into it to see
Speaker 3: what the deal is because I'm assuming with Airbnb's there's
Speaker 3: that could people could get hurt all the time in
Speaker 3: hot tubs or these extreme locations or something like that.
Speaker 3: So there must be some kind of thing. But that's
Speaker 3: just another worry that you can get shocked from the pool.
Speaker 3: And I think that we had a story I don't remember.
Speaker 3: It was a couple a couple of weeks or a
Speaker 3: couple of months ago about a couple that got electrocuted
Speaker 3: or they didn't die though, right, they got shocked in
Speaker 3: a hot tub and.
Speaker 2: No I thought one of I thought the husband did die.
Speaker 3: Yeah, one of them died, but that was in a
Speaker 3: hotel at some resort or something in Mexico, right, Yeah,
Speaker 3: so it does happen from time to time. I think
Speaker 3: if you have a regular poll set up by a
Speaker 3: professional people, all of that stuff is like underground and
Speaker 3: protected and stuff. I just am thinking that this might
Speaker 3: have been a situation where it was a person that
Speaker 3: kind of put their own pull up and the wires
Speaker 3: were somehow exposed out into the open.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know, So we'll try to I mean,
Speaker 2: it sucks.
Speaker 3: It sucks, and they were literally shocked when that happened
Speaker 3: to them, because why would you be expecting that.
Speaker 2: That's terrible. Yeah, so that your your comment about liability
Speaker 2: kind of leads into this next story. So in August
Speaker 2: twenty twenty two, a family had rented this lakefront airbnb
Speaker 2: on White Lake in New York. So the property had,
Speaker 2: you know, they're saying in this lawsuit that we're gonna
Speaker 2: talk about later, that the property had advertised itself as
Speaker 2: being quote safe and like you would want to assume
Speaker 2: that all airbemb's are safe, and it encouraged people to
Speaker 2: explore the lake and you know, go swimming and everything
Speaker 2: like that. So on the second day of this trip,
Speaker 2: the family was swimming in the lake off of a
Speaker 2: dock owned by the property. So one of the guys,
Speaker 2: who the family admits did not know how to swim well,
Speaker 2: was walking around and what he believed was way deep water,
Speaker 2: and he eventually reached a point where under the water
Speaker 2: it dipped off and went from I guess about five
Speaker 2: feet high to eighteen feet high or from eighteen feet
Speaker 2: under the water. So he lost his footing and then
Speaker 2: started to drown. To which two other family members that
Speaker 2: also admittedly didn't know how to swim very well, went
Speaker 2: to try to save him. They also lost their footing
Speaker 2: and started to drown, and unfortunately all three of them
Speaker 2: were not able to make it out.
Speaker 3: And listen, like, I think that this is a terribly
Speaker 3: sad story. We were just talking about with the other thing, right,
Speaker 3: but did you hear the other people like suing the
Speaker 3: state park that they were in or whatever because they
Speaker 3: were in a whirlpool and the drown Like, no, that's
Speaker 3: ridiculous because why would you do that. It's unfortunate that
Speaker 3: you would die on vacation, but there has to be
Speaker 3: some sense of self responsibility that you don't know how
Speaker 3: to swim, so why would you be in a body
Speaker 3: of water?
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, like you, I personally think it's so ridiculous
Speaker 2: to try to sue the Airbnb and that so they're
Speaker 2: suing the homeowner and Airbnb corporate for this, which it's like,
Speaker 2: all right, if you want to sue the homeowner. I
Speaker 2: also don't agree with that, but what does Airbnb corporate
Speaker 2: have anything to do with it? I think that's one
Speaker 2: hundred percent of stretch. But you know, water is at
Speaker 2: your own risk. I just I don't see how this
Speaker 2: is going to go through in the corporate if you so, if.
Speaker 3: You have a beach front condo and someone drowns in
Speaker 3: the beach because there's there's a rip current, that's your fault.
Speaker 3: I mean, it's just I just think the whole thing
Speaker 3: is is outrageous that they even think, and especially they're
Speaker 3: saying that the person didn't know how to swim.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's a it's a lake, so it's not
Speaker 2: a pond that suddenly, you know, went from a foot
Speaker 2: to eighteen feet under the water. I think lakes are
Speaker 2: pretty well known to be pretty deep bodies of water,
Speaker 2: so I think it was totally put boats in them. Yeah,
Speaker 2: boats are in them. There was a dock right there
Speaker 2: which alluded that it was deep enough that a boat
Speaker 2: could sit in it. So I don't really know. I
Speaker 2: definitely don't agree with this lawsuit. I think swimming is
Speaker 2: at your own risk. Even if the Airbnb listing and
Speaker 2: in the property is encouraging you to go swimming, you
Speaker 2: still have to just have kind of common sense about it, right.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I think it could be different from
Speaker 3: the story that we were just talking about. If if
Speaker 3: a person has a that they're doing a poll on
Speaker 3: an app like that and it's poorly maintained and this
Speaker 3: electric shock was a result, Yes, that's a different situation.
Speaker 3: It was just like the most outraged thing I ever heard.
Speaker 3: But see, this is why what scares me about doing
Speaker 3: an app like that, because people they don't want to
Speaker 3: take responsibility for everything, and they want to blame everything
Speaker 3: on you, you know, And how could you possibly even
Speaker 3: I wonder how many people rented this Airbnb with no problems?
Speaker 3: And as a person that's renting out a thing like that, like,
Speaker 3: how could you possibly encounter any scenario of like people
Speaker 3: going in a lake that don't know how to swim
Speaker 3: that are going to end up drowning on your property.
Speaker 2: It's just.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, well it's it's ridiculous.
Speaker 2: Well, also have to take into account like how many
Speaker 2: times has this property been rented before? How many you know,
Speaker 2: decades and hundreds of years have people been going into
Speaker 2: this lake? Like, you know, I just I don't agree
Speaker 2: with the decision to sue. I don't think it's a
Speaker 2: property owner's fault for trying to be like this house
Speaker 2: is on a lake. People have a really good time
Speaker 2: in this lake. I mean, not everybody going in this
Speaker 2: lake is drowning. So or it's not like the lake
Speaker 2: was filled with extremely toxic chemicals and they told you
Speaker 2: to go in and that it was okay. I mean,
Speaker 2: it's just a body of water and you went. You
Speaker 2: didn't know how to swim.
Speaker 3: So yeah, I know that we get accused of victim
Speaker 3: blaming sometimes, but I think that this is every victim
Speaker 3: isn't a victim, right, Like That's how I look at it.
Speaker 3: This is a situation like, sorry, it's not their fault.
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Speaker 2: So a couple of weeks ago, a family had asked
Speaker 2: police in Texas to check on their father because they
Speaker 2: had not heard from him in a couple of months.
Speaker 2: So when the police got to the property, a man
Speaker 2: had started speaking to them through the ring camera saying
Speaker 2: he was the dead. So the police officer didn't really
Speaker 2: feel right about the situation. So I guess he took
Speaker 2: the audio or you know, took a video of the interaction,
Speaker 2: showed it to the family and said, does this sound
Speaker 2: like you're dead? And they said, that's definitely not him.
Speaker 2: I'm wondering when in these situations, So if police get
Speaker 2: called for a well check, which is what that is,
Speaker 2: right the welfare chance.
Speaker 3: They don't. They don't have to. They don't have like
Speaker 3: I guess, you don't have to answer the door if
Speaker 3: a cop comes over. It's kind of I feel like
Speaker 3: it's kind of suspicious if you're like, yeah, it's me,
Speaker 3: I'm fine.
Speaker 2: Leave.
Speaker 3: You don't have to talk to a person in like
Speaker 3: face to face. I guess they don't have any right
Speaker 3: to to come into the property if they if they're
Speaker 3: just asking about somebody.
Speaker 2: I would say they probably have to encounter the person
Speaker 2: face to face to confirm to the family that they
Speaker 2: are okay, which is probably why the cop took the
Speaker 2: audio back and was like, they wouldn't open the door,
Speaker 2: but this person was talking to us from the property. Yeah.
Speaker 3: I just wonder in a normal circumstance, So like, let's
Speaker 3: say they didn't they didn't have this video, Like let's
Speaker 3: just say whatever that the guy answered the doorm was
Speaker 3: yelling through the door, and it was just like, it's
Speaker 3: not me or what.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 3: Just are they allowed to then go back and break
Speaker 3: into the house to see what's going on? Because I'm
Speaker 3: sure this has happened multiple times that someone shows up
Speaker 3: and there's like a dead person in the house and
Speaker 3: the person that killed them is there and doesn't want
Speaker 3: to let them in, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I would say if the person's not willing to
Speaker 2: present themselves face to face, they could probably get a
Speaker 2: warrant to go in in some capacity, I would have
Speaker 2: to imagine, because you can't just be like, oh, well
Speaker 2: somebody said hi through the door, so we're good here.
Speaker 2: I'm sure that also happens, and there's total negligence on
Speaker 2: that part, but so yeah, the family members eventually get
Speaker 2: access into the property and in there they see this
Speaker 2: what they are calling like this suspicious refrigerator. So they
Speaker 2: open the fridge and unfortunately, the father is decomposed inside
Speaker 2: of stuffed inside of the fridge, and they found out
Speaker 2: that his son had you know, been impersonating his voice.
Speaker 2: And it's unclear if the dad had died via homicide
Speaker 2: or had died naturally and the son, you know, put
Speaker 2: them in there, or what the son has been arrested for.
Speaker 3: So when they show this video to the who I'm
Speaker 3: assuming is this guy's sisters, yeah, and says and says like, hey,
Speaker 3: is this your dad's voice? And they say no, they
Speaker 3: don't realize that it's not there, that it's their brother's voice.
Speaker 2: Well, maybe he was like you know, changing his voice
Speaker 2: or doing like an alternate voice, and maybe they suspected
Speaker 2: it was the brother. I don't know. Clearly, there was
Speaker 2: something going on, but I don't know, so they'll so
Speaker 2: what they'll do.
Speaker 3: So, even though the remains are decomposed, they'll take they'll
Speaker 3: bring them to the medical examiner's office. So, assuming his
Speaker 3: body was chopped up in pieces, because who has a
Speaker 3: refrigerator that big too, I guess you could if you
Speaker 3: took the shelves out or whatever.
Speaker 2: Or if you had like a chess freezer or no,
Speaker 2: it was a fridge, right.
Speaker 3: It I thought the article, I think it said fridge
Speaker 3: and freezer, so I wasn't really sure.
Speaker 2: But yeah, I guess in theory.
Speaker 3: So they'll bring the body to the medical examiner and
Speaker 3: they'll look at it, and they'll be able to tell
Speaker 3: even if it's decomposed, they'll be able to tell if
Speaker 3: there were signs of blunt trauma, like if the guy
Speaker 3: beat him to death with a crowbar or something. You'll
Speaker 3: see signs of that. Even if there's not that much
Speaker 3: skin and soft tissue left, you'll be able to see
Speaker 3: that on the bones. And even if it's not really
Speaker 3: super decomposed, you can see evidence of a heart attack
Speaker 3: or something. Sometimes in the heart you could tell that
Speaker 3: the coronary arteries are clogged or there's you could see
Speaker 3: a pulmonary embolism if his chest was intact. There's things
Speaker 3: you could see that you could tell, so it's not
Speaker 3: as easy, but you can see some gross finding. So
Speaker 3: I mean, we'll never hear about this again. It sucks
Speaker 3: because we always hear these cases and you're like, okay, so,
Speaker 3: like what happened, and they don't. They don't ever tell
Speaker 3: us the rest of the story.
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly. So this next story, in California, police received
Speaker 2: a call that a quote blood soaked man was chasing
Speaker 2: around this maintenance worker. This is also at like seven
Speaker 2: o'clock in the morning, so imagine starting your Yeah, I
Speaker 2: assume that's when the police are coming on their shift.
Speaker 2: So they're probably like, yeah, awesome, this is this is
Speaker 2: how we're starting the day.
Speaker 3: They're like sitting there, drinking their coffee and like talking
Speaker 3: to the person that they're that they're relieving and just
Speaker 3: you know, catching up from the night before, and this
Speaker 3: is the call they get.
Speaker 2: Yeah, So when they got to the scene, the blood
Speaker 2: soaked man in question is seen on body cam like
Speaker 2: charging at the police officers and they keep telling him
Speaker 2: to stay away, but he keeps charging forward, so they
Speaker 2: had to shoot him. I think when they do this,
Speaker 2: they shoot somebody in the leg right so they can't
Speaker 2: keep walking, But it doesn't kill that I couldn't.
Speaker 3: Tell from the video where he got shot, just because
Speaker 3: he had blood all over him. In my just from
Speaker 3: looking at it, though, they had the guy lay on
Speaker 3: the ground on his belly and it looked like there
Speaker 3: was a lot of blood under his belly. Well, I
Speaker 3: think that on the on the page meant though, I
Speaker 3: think the blood on his body might have been someone else's,
Speaker 3: somebody else's because but the one the stuff on the street,
Speaker 3: it looks like he got shot somewhere in the abdomen
Speaker 3: or something, I guess.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so he got shot and in the body Camp
Speaker 2: footage you see he's lying on the ground. I would
Speaker 2: assume anybody that gets shot would be screaming, right, this
Speaker 2: guy's not screaming. He starts singing Tina Turner, Yeah, what's
Speaker 2: love got to do? Got to do with it? He's
Speaker 2: it is kind of We're gonna try to upload the
Speaker 2: got to try to add the audio in just so
Speaker 2: you could hear it for a second, but.
Speaker 3: Hopefully to replace me singing it. But it's it is
Speaker 3: really like outrageous. We got another one by the growing.
Speaker 2: And apparently he killed his parents. Yeah. So after this
Speaker 2: whole debago go down, they you know, arrest him and
Speaker 2: they find out, well, there he's accused of decapitating his
Speaker 2: two elderly parents and the family's chiuahua.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's clearly having some kind of psychotic issues, I'm assuming.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: So I don't know what the teen or Tina Turner song,
Speaker 3: it's just a random song to pick and see. When
Speaker 3: I first read this, I thought it was gonna be
Speaker 3: like a love triangle or something, or some kind of
Speaker 3: domestic dispute with a like a love interest, you know
Speaker 3: what I mean. I didn't think it was going to
Speaker 3: have to do with parents. So it's interesting.
Speaker 2: All right, let's get started with medical news. So the
Speaker 2: world's first vagina museum is open in London. This is
Speaker 2: a much needed vagina museum because apparently there is one
Speaker 2: in Iceland that is called the Falliological Museum, which is
Speaker 2: dedicated to penises. And it's just not fair that we
Speaker 2: don't have our own vagina museum. So now we do. Listen,
Speaker 2: nobody wants to be looking at a bunch of phoenixes.
Speaker 2: IM sorry, So.
Speaker 3: I know, right, just to just to make fun of
Speaker 3: them maybe, But in this museum there's these cool sculptures
Speaker 3: of Diva cups and tampons that are covered in glittery
Speaker 3: red paint. I think I do think it's a great
Speaker 3: idea for a museum though, because it's talking about a
Speaker 3: lot of history of things, and it's it's providing some education,
Speaker 3: and it's talking about like cultural things, which is very
Speaker 3: interesting to me, like when did pubic hair go out
Speaker 3: of style? And when you know, like mercans which were
Speaker 3: pubic tupays and things like that, and labioplasty and smells
Speaker 3: from the vagina and all these different things that are
Speaker 3: always controversial but are also cultural, Like some cultures shave
Speaker 3: all their pubic hair off, some don't shave any things
Speaker 3: like that. So I think it's I think it's it's
Speaker 3: kind of cool.
Speaker 2: So reports have come out that a Kentucky water park
Speaker 2: has been the source of a recent diarrhea outbreak.
Speaker 3: So there's this parasite called cryptosporidium, and it has this
Speaker 3: really tough outer shell that cannot be penetrated sometimes by
Speaker 3: things that we would necessarily consider to be like sterilizing
Speaker 3: things like chlorine that were in the pool, and it
Speaker 3: is contracted through fecal oral contamination. So someone with it
Speaker 3: on their butt or on their hands got in the pool,
Speaker 3: and then somebody's swallowing the pool water and then that's
Speaker 3: how they're getting this parasite new And it's like, listen,
Speaker 3: it sounds nasty, but like, what do you think happens
Speaker 3: in a public pool?
Speaker 2: People?
Speaker 3: You know, they always say to take a shower before
Speaker 3: going in the pool. Who the fuck takes a shower
Speaker 3: before they go into pool?
Speaker 2: Nobody does? Right? No? Do people? Do? People use the bull?
Speaker 2: I use the pool as the show.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so it's like you have they always have signs
Speaker 3: like make sure you take a shower before you go
Speaker 3: in the pool. So people people just aren't doing that,
Speaker 3: and you just have. You could just always have like
Speaker 3: a little bit of residue of poop leftover. It's not
Speaker 3: like you're going into a body of water with multiple people,
Speaker 3: especially children that don't even wipe their ass good, Like,
Speaker 3: what do you seriously, what are you expecting? So when
Speaker 3: you get this it causes like watery diarrhea for you
Speaker 3: to pee out of your butt. Basically, Yeah, some people
Speaker 3: that get it don't get it that bad.
Speaker 2: Other people, you know, it was.
Speaker 3: It makes me think because you know how sometimes there'll
Speaker 3: be like a couple of days that you just have
Speaker 3: like the runs like that really bad, and you're like.
Speaker 2: Hmm, that's weird.
Speaker 3: If you're pretty healthy, I don't you wouldn't really like
Speaker 3: maybe realize that you're having a problem. Especially people that
Speaker 3: have diarrhea once in a while just might be like, Okay,
Speaker 3: I must have just got a stomach bug. So it's
Speaker 3: it's it's gross, but like this is what happens, like
Speaker 3: humans are kind of gross people, you know, or gro
Speaker 3: gross animals as other animals.
Speaker 2: I'm just confused because in the beginning of the article
Speaker 2: it describes this as a chlorine resistant I guess parasite, right,
Speaker 2: And then later in the article it says the water
Speaker 2: parks shut down to do a quote super chlorination treatment.
Speaker 2: So if it's chlorine resistant, then well they're saying it is.
Speaker 2: It's chlorine resistant. But if you shock.
Speaker 3: A pool, right or you put in super hardcore chemicals,
Speaker 3: people shouldn't be going in it because it's not it's
Speaker 3: not safe. Yeah, So they're saying that they're putting like
Speaker 3: some high octane stuff to clear out the pool because
Speaker 3: for them to drain the pool, and like that would
Speaker 3: just not happen, especially since it's the end of the season.
Speaker 3: But they could put chemicals in it. It's just like
Speaker 3: that's they can't do that every day because otherwise people
Speaker 3: wouldn't be able to swim in it. So it's just
Speaker 3: resistant to the levels that we have that are safe
Speaker 3: for human consumption and swimming. Yeah, I mean, it's it's
Speaker 3: just it's just gross. But I mean that I I
Speaker 3: that's why whenever my kids are just not my kids.
Speaker 3: I think all kids in general are magnets to these
Speaker 3: water parks.
Speaker 2: Like every time we go on the boardwalk, they're like,
Speaker 2: I want to go there. I want to go there, in.
Speaker 3: That great Wolf Lodge place, which is the worst place
Speaker 3: on earth. And like, I don't even know how I
Speaker 3: got suckered into that, but the whole entire time I
Speaker 3: was just thinking, like, God is so great.
Speaker 2: I told you before you went that you were going
Speaker 2: to hate it there, and you were like, it's gonna
Speaker 2: be fine.
Speaker 3: Now, I well, I know I'm gonna hate it. I'm
Speaker 3: not going because I wanted to go. I thought that
Speaker 3: the kids would like to go. I do a lot
Speaker 3: of things because the kids want to do them, not
Speaker 3: because I want to do them, like taking old time
Speaker 3: pictures on the boardwalk that they try to charge me
Speaker 3: nine hundred dollars for.
Speaker 2: Side note anyway.
Speaker 3: Like sometimes when you're a mom, you just got to
Speaker 3: do a bunch of shit you don't want to do.
Speaker 2: That was an uncomfortable look.
Speaker 3: But a memory we will have is a family, so
Speaker 3: let's so let's explain that. So for Maria and Ricky
Speaker 3: were down the shore on my birthday and they were like, oh,
Speaker 3: come calm down for the day and we'll do something
Speaker 3: or whatever. And we went and I wanted to do
Speaker 3: these these bike ride things in Kate May, which is
Speaker 3: it seems really cool. I've never done it, but it's
Speaker 3: a They they put these specialized bikes on the old
Speaker 3: railroad and you can like ride these these bikes up
Speaker 3: the railroad and they didn't have any tickets. So my
Speaker 3: that was what I wanted to do. So I was like, Okay,
Speaker 3: next runner up is to get one of those huge
Speaker 3: bikes put on a surrey that you put on the boardwalk.
Speaker 3: I thought that that was kind of fun, actually like
Speaker 3: that that was fine, And then I was like, oh,
Speaker 3: we can finally get these old time photos done because
Speaker 3: Lucia has been bugging me to get these photos done
Speaker 3: for her whole entire life, and since we were all together,
Speaker 3: I was like, Okay, we could finally do it because
Speaker 3: we're all together here and we you know, we It
Speaker 3: just was it was kind of it was just kind
Speaker 3: of an awkward experience, like putting on all these outfits.
Speaker 3: And it was funny though for the most part, until
Speaker 3: until they tried to tell me how much it costs,
Speaker 3: and then all of a sudden, it got very unfunny.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I just I just can't, like, I'm sorry.
Speaker 3: I just especially that there's apps that I could pay
Speaker 3: ninety nine cents for and probably have gotten our picture
Speaker 3: just put into all these with some AI shit for
Speaker 3: ninety nine cents. I just can't see how you're trying
Speaker 3: to tell me a package of these pictures cost over
Speaker 3: one thousand dollars. I just was like, I thought it
Speaker 3: was like a joke.
Speaker 2: No, because you go in and then make you get
Speaker 2: in these like narstiest close. That's like I don't know
Speaker 2: where they were, like they were dusty. I don't know
Speaker 2: what the cleaning protoc with them. I don't know they
Speaker 2: all smelled weird, and like, of course the men, you know,
Speaker 2: just get to put these shirts on over their clothes.
Speaker 2: You and I and the kids have to get completely undressed.
Speaker 2: I had to sausage my body and do a flapper
Speaker 2: girl dress that didn't fit me at all, and they're like,
Speaker 2: I had to put on these weird ass fish nets.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, those were discussing.
Speaker 3: They were disgusting, and they didn't even have like a
Speaker 3: wasst It was just like a leg and a leg
Speaker 3: and they were all happed that they had thousands of
Speaker 3: holes in them, and the dress just had ties on
Speaker 3: the back. So my whole entire ass was hanging out.
Speaker 3: And then they're like, oh, here's a pair of shorts,
Speaker 3: So I put on some a random pair of shorts underneath.
Speaker 3: Like the whole thing was was weird, and it just
Speaker 3: the whole entire thing was just it was weird. I mean,
Speaker 3: it was fun and the picture came out funny, but
Speaker 3: I don't know, just like, for example, they give you
Speaker 3: a black and white photo, but then if you want
Speaker 3: it to be Sepia like old fashioned looking, it was
Speaker 3: fifteen dollars more like for them to hit a button.
Speaker 3: I'm like, do you know how iPhones work, Like I
Speaker 3: could change this picture from black and white to CPA
Speaker 3: right now by hitting a button, well, says, I cost
Speaker 3: fifteen dollars.
Speaker 2: They also take your picture in five different sets, and
Speaker 2: then they're just like, oh, go up to the computer
Speaker 2: and like the pictures that you want. So we picked
Speaker 2: eight shots, and I thought that was just narrowing it down,
Speaker 2: and then he was like, Okay, it's gonna be nine
Speaker 2: hundred dollars and we're like, yeah, okay, no, thank.
Speaker 3: You, so and then kept trying so so with the
Speaker 3: package itself, it was twenty dollars a person and you
Speaker 3: got one free photo, but it ended up costing a
Speaker 3: couple hundred dollars anyway just to do that. But he
Speaker 3: was he said, oh, I could send you all the
Speaker 3: digital files for one hundred dollars, and I was like, no, yeah,
Speaker 3: do you want it.
Speaker 2: Like at all of it? Like no matter what I did.
Speaker 3: It was gonna cost five hundred dollars if I got
Speaker 3: more than that one picture. And I just just like,
Speaker 3: my kids are holding like a Jack Daniel's bottle right now.
Speaker 3: I don't even want to hang this up in my house.
Speaker 3: It's just like everything I'm against all right.
Speaker 1: It just was.
Speaker 2: It just was. It was.
Speaker 3: It was memorable. It was it was we'll never do
Speaker 3: that again kind of moment.
Speaker 2: Let's get up to this night, okay, and this picture,
Speaker 2: this picture is never seeing the light of day. I'm sorry.
Speaker 2: I hate the way my face looks at it. This
Speaker 2: could be but it was either it was.
Speaker 3: It was the picture of the kids helping us escape
Speaker 3: from jail or the ones of them smoking cigarettes and
Speaker 3: drinking whiskey. So, like, which one was I going to choose?
Speaker 3: I picked the one of the kids breaking us out
Speaker 3: of jail because that's more likely a scenario for our family.
Speaker 2: This is my my decades, you know, going into my thirties,
Speaker 2: rat photo. So okay, two years it is not even bad, No,
Speaker 2: it's not bad. I just the whole experience, and I'm.
Speaker 3: Definitely posting it in like five minutes as soon as
Speaker 3: we're done rewarding this.
Speaker 2: All right, all right. Two years ago, this guy went
Speaker 2: to the hospital in Atlanta with a brain bleed and
Speaker 2: had to have an emergency surgery, and part of that
Speaker 2: emergency surgery involved removing a portion of his skull.
Speaker 3: Why, all right, So when you go to the hospital,
Speaker 3: if you have a brain bleed or something. So your
Speaker 3: skull is very rigid and your brain fills up most
Speaker 3: of it. So if you have a brain injury and
Speaker 3: your brain needs to swell up, or if there's blood
Speaker 3: accumulation in your skull, you need to kind of take
Speaker 3: a piece of the skull out in order for the
Speaker 3: brain to be able to swell as big as it
Speaker 3: needs to get, because if it swells too much and
Speaker 3: there's no room for it to move out, it'll herniate
Speaker 3: or press down like into close to your spinal column,
Speaker 3: and that could shut off your respiratory centers and kill you.
Speaker 3: So this is why they do it, and they do
Speaker 3: it a lot. It's called a craniotomy. What's really cool
Speaker 3: is so you know, Paul is in Indonesia right now
Speaker 3: for this Tan of Turaja thing, which is this it's
Speaker 3: a really cool cultural celebration of death, this funeral where
Speaker 3: they it's really hard to explain. You need to look
Speaker 3: at his Instagram account because he really documents it well.
Speaker 3: But basically, they have these really fancy, expensive funerals for
Speaker 3: people that live in their culture and they're not able
Speaker 3: to afford them, sometimes for years. So what they do
Speaker 3: is they keep the family member's dead bodies in their house.
Speaker 3: They preserve them and mummify them, and they keep them
Speaker 3: in their house while they're waiting to be able to
Speaker 3: get to afford these really elaborate funerals, and there's a
Speaker 3: lot of other things that are done there. But anyway,
Speaker 3: Paul was in a jungle in Indonesia, right, because this
Speaker 3: is what my friends do. They're just like in jungles
Speaker 3: in Indonesia, and he came across the cemetery that had
Speaker 3: a bunch of skulls laid out just chilling in the woods,
Speaker 3: and one of them had a skull cap that was
Speaker 3: replaced with hardware around it. It's like remember in remember
Speaker 3: in Christmas Vacation where Uncle Eddie knocks on his head
Speaker 3: because he has a steel plate in his head. Yeah,
Speaker 3: that's like, that's the kind of thing, except it's they
Speaker 3: put your your bone that they caught off back on you.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 3: So it was just really interesting because last week he
Speaker 3: was like, what the hell is this? And then I
Speaker 3: was like, oh, I was explaining to him all about
Speaker 3: this when this happens. So when they take off this
Speaker 3: chunk of your bone from your skull, they don't just
Speaker 3: put it right back on. They keep it off for
Speaker 3: sometimes weeks. So what do they do with it? They
Speaker 3: either this is actually really cool, they make a pocket
Speaker 3: in your abdomen and they like stick it in there
Speaker 3: for until they need it again, or they deep freeze it.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 3: So in this case, we have to assume that they
Speaker 3: they put it in the deep freezer because if it
Speaker 3: was in his body, then they wouldn't have had a
Speaker 3: problem identifying it. So they put it in the deep freezer,
Speaker 3: and they didn't label it, and apparently in the deep
Speaker 3: freezer there was like lots of skull flaps that weren't
Speaker 3: labeled and they didn't know which one was his. So
Speaker 3: then when they went to go close his skull back up,
Speaker 3: they had to give him an artificial one like an
Speaker 3: Uncle Eddie steel plate, right, And he had a lot
Speaker 3: of issues with it. He had he got infection, and
Speaker 3: he had to stay in the hospital longer because of it.
Speaker 3: And on top of that, it's the family saying it
Speaker 3: costs like one hundred and forty seven thousand dollars for
Speaker 3: them to be in this extended stay and everything.
Speaker 2: Like that, so we charged for the synthetic one.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I think that so this is like in
Speaker 3: my opinion, lawsuit worthy rights. Yeah, and so it's funny
Speaker 3: because I sent this story to Paul and I was
Speaker 3: thinking the same thing. He's like, well, if you pull
Speaker 3: a bunch of the skull flaps out of the freezer,
Speaker 3: like you should be able to figure out which skull
Speaker 3: flap goes with the guy, because it's like a puzzle piece, right,
Speaker 3: Like it's there's only going to be one that fits
Speaker 3: in there perfectly. But but and that's that's probably true,
Speaker 3: but you can't. You can't do that, yeah, for multiple reasons,
Speaker 3: Like you you're if it's not your body, then your
Speaker 3: body can reject it. It's just like you can't take
Speaker 3: that risk.
Speaker 2: But we're all the other ones in there related to
Speaker 2: recent patients or had they just been chilling in there.
Speaker 2: You know what.
Speaker 3: Honestly, what happens is that because this guy had a
Speaker 3: hemorrhagic stroke, okay, okay, and they're really deadly. It's different
Speaker 3: than like a stroke that a person they're The most
Speaker 3: common stroke is inn a schemic stroke when something like
Speaker 3: your crowded arteries get clogged off and you don't get
Speaker 3: enough oxygen to your brain. A hemorrhagic stroke is when
Speaker 3: you have a vessel in your brain that bursts and
Speaker 3: causes this big accumulation of blood and they're just they're
Speaker 3: just more deadly. Right, So what happens is when they
Speaker 3: do these cranny enomies at the hospital and they were
Speaker 3: obviously they're trying to keep a person alive, but maybe
Speaker 3: they take off the skull flap and then the person
Speaker 3: ends up dying and then they never get it back.
Speaker 3: I mean they should they should send the skull flap
Speaker 3: with the patient to the mark or to the medical
Speaker 3: examiner or whatever, because especially for persons having an open
Speaker 3: casket or something, you kind of need that so they
Speaker 3: don't have a dent in their head. But that that
Speaker 3: could possibly be how it's getting lost, is that maybe
Speaker 3: a body's going to get cremated and they don't even
Speaker 3: get the other piece of them that's in the fridge. Still,
Speaker 3: that's all I could assume.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so I do agree with you. This is lawsuit worthy.
Speaker 2: I mean, you certainly shouldn't be getting charged for the
Speaker 2: synthetic one when it wasn't even your fault in the
Speaker 2: first place. I mean, they lost it, that's their fault. Yeah,
Speaker 2: and all the you know, could could they argue that
Speaker 2: could the hospital argue that he might have had infection
Speaker 2: and stuff anyway, or was that directly correlated to the
Speaker 2: synthetic one. But I don't I don't know.
Speaker 3: Yeah, like he could have had he could have gotten
Speaker 3: an infection either way. That that really just doesn't matter
Speaker 3: of it, because you can't really just assume that he
Speaker 3: would have had an infection either way. I mean, we've
Speaker 3: gotten these pathology several times that people get them removed
Speaker 3: and get them replaced with synthetics or whatever. I don't
Speaker 3: work in neurology, so I don't know what the pros
Speaker 3: and cons are having the original versus the synthetic, because
Speaker 3: they have to put plates in your head, you know,
Speaker 3: to insert to kind of put the puzzle piece back
Speaker 3: in place, you know. And I do remember one time
Speaker 3: we got one in pathology and they were like, we
Speaker 3: need to come take that back because we're going to
Speaker 3: put it in the patient. We didn't mean to send
Speaker 3: it down and you're like, okay.
Speaker 2: Not asking any questions.
Speaker 3: So but at any time you put something from the OAR,
Speaker 3: I mean I just think they put it right in
Speaker 3: a bag with the patient's name and stuff on it.
Speaker 3: But listen like, I worked in pathology for a long
Speaker 3: time and things happen. I've gotten specimens that have no
Speaker 3: label on them. I've gotten specimens that have another patient's
Speaker 3: label on them. It's not common, but it happens, you
Speaker 3: know what I mean. You don't understand how happen. And
Speaker 3: it's always like some weird circumstance, like a person was
Speaker 3: working there that doesn't normally work there, or the printer
Speaker 3: broke and printed to with the same patient and it
Speaker 3: didn't come out in a row and they ended up
Speaker 3: taking the wrong labels or something like. Yeah, so that's
Speaker 3: that's likely what happened, all right, other death news. So
Speaker 3: for the price of two hundred and twenty three thousand
Speaker 3: dollars and a fifty five dollars monthly membership, you could
Speaker 3: freeze your body. This thing is such bullshit, you know that.
Speaker 3: It's like it's geared towards people that have a fear
Speaker 3: of death. It's I feel like it's preying on people
Speaker 3: that want to live forever and have a fear of
Speaker 3: death and also are rich, right because yeh, normal people
Speaker 3: don't have that.
Speaker 2: Is that nice? Is it not totally ironic? Because you
Speaker 2: have to die to do this in hopes of being
Speaker 2: like reanimated later. As they're trying to advertise it, they've
Speaker 2: they've already convinced six people and five pets like to
Speaker 2: do this in the hopes that they could be reanimated
Speaker 2: in the future. Like, first of all, like, why do
Speaker 2: you think that you're so important that you need to
Speaker 2: like be brought back again? It's kind of narcissistic. Well,
Speaker 2: there's also so they're saying there's six hundred and fifty
Speaker 2: people on the wait list for this too, and the
Speaker 2: average age for these people is thirty six. So if
Speaker 2: you're afraid of dying, you're gonna essentially like you know,
Speaker 2: die by some form of suicide right at like thirty
Speaker 2: six year old, to freeze your body and hopes of
Speaker 2: no no, no, no, no no, I'm confused by this.
Speaker 3: Okay, Okay, so when so you sign this and when
Speaker 3: you when you're getting it.
Speaker 2: Can't it can't.
Speaker 3: Happen for everyone because you have to be froze. You
Speaker 3: have to get frozen as soon as you die, okay,
Speaker 3: like right after you die, right, So it has to
Speaker 3: be in a situation like let's say, for example, I
Speaker 3: was doing an autopsy once on a patient that had MS,
Speaker 3: and they really wanted to do research on her brain,
Speaker 3: but they needed it like as fresh as possible taken
Speaker 3: out of her body, like as soon as possible after
Speaker 3: she died for whatever research they were doing.
Speaker 2: Right, So they.
Speaker 3: Knew she was dying, and they would call me every
Speaker 3: couple hours and be like, it's happening soon. It's happening soon,
Speaker 3: like be ready, it's probably happening tonight. And then it happened,
Speaker 3: like in the middle of the night.
Speaker 2: I had to go. It was I'll never forget.
Speaker 3: It was a Friday night and I was working at
Speaker 3: the hospital and I was like, all right, I'll stay
Speaker 3: around till like seven or eight. And then she didn't die,
Speaker 3: and I was like, all right, I guess she's not
Speaker 3: going to die till tomorrow or whatever. I'll go in
Speaker 3: the morning. And then they called me at like midnight
Speaker 3: and they were like, okay, she died. You have to
Speaker 3: come in right now and take out her brain. Right.
Speaker 3: So it's the same kind of thing, like someone needs
Speaker 3: to be aware that they want this done when they die,
Speaker 3: and they have to be monitoring it and ready to
Speaker 3: bring them wherever they need to go to get their
Speaker 3: body frozen shortly after they die.
Speaker 2: Okay, the way I was perceiving this article, the way
Speaker 2: it was written, and I don't know, I was writing
Speaker 2: a lot of notes at the same time. We all
Speaker 2: know that I'm just a little dumb. So like when
Speaker 2: I was reading it, you're not dumb.
Speaker 3: Stop.
Speaker 2: No. When I was reading it, I was under the
Speaker 2: assumption that people were scared of dying, so they were
Speaker 2: essentially like getting this injection to die early so that
Speaker 2: they could continue living later on in life. Like that's
Speaker 2: the way I was reading it, is that the average
Speaker 2: of a thirty six year old was just like, I'll
Speaker 2: just freeze myself now, so when I'm unfrozen, i'll be
Speaker 2: my same age, reanimated as they like to.
Speaker 3: No, they just it's just it's just the thirty six
Speaker 3: year old that thinks they're mister important and they need
Speaker 3: to live longer than the average person.
Speaker 2: I guess. So I'm thinking it's people being like, well,
Speaker 2: I want to be young when they, you know, bring
Speaker 2: me back to life in however many years, So I'm
Speaker 2: just gonna to freeze myself now. But I was like,
Speaker 2: that makes no sense that you would kill yourself right now.
Speaker 2: So like I don't know.
Speaker 3: These people would never kill themselves. They're very opposite of this.
Speaker 3: So the disturbing part of this procedure is that so
Speaker 3: once once you die and you're freshly dead, they inject
Speaker 3: you with what's called medical grade anti freeze so there's
Speaker 3: not a freezing effect or frozen damage to your tissues,
Speaker 3: and then they store you in liquid nitrogen like keep
Speaker 3: you uber uber frozen. And this is all in the
Speaker 3: hopes that in the future they're going to be able
Speaker 3: to pull up so you could even just donate your
Speaker 3: brain and they hope to reanimate it one day. Now,
Speaker 3: what are they going to do with it after that?
Speaker 3: They're going to just like take someone's shell of a
Speaker 3: body and put your brain in it. Like, why why
Speaker 3: would you even be doing.
Speaker 2: Research for this?
Speaker 3: Honestly, it's just not even necessary. But I just think
Speaker 3: it's I really think it's a scam. It's just to
Speaker 3: prey on people that have a fear of death.
Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, And I read something. I read something that said, wait,
Speaker 2: it's a if a person has successfully revived after the
Speaker 2: Captain America procedure and their investment hasn't been fully used
Speaker 2: in treatment, then they get their remaining money back, Like
Speaker 2: I don't know when, And what's this fifty five dollars
Speaker 2: monthly fee. Well, it's to store, it's the storage fee.
Speaker 2: I get that, But like, like, if you're the thing.
Speaker 3: You're paying for, the big thing you're paying for. Well,
Speaker 3: I think from the company's perspective, that makes sense because
Speaker 3: let's say you are, especially if you're doing it on
Speaker 3: a thirty five year old person versus a sixty five
Speaker 3: year old person, Like a thirty five year old person,
Speaker 3: if they pay for it now, well no, no, no,
Speaker 3: I'm lying because you wouldn't have to start paying for
Speaker 3: it until you die, So I'm lying.
Speaker 2: I don't. I don't, But who's paying for it if
Speaker 2: you're dead? That's the So this whole thing is totally
Speaker 2: confusing to me. I don't know.
Speaker 3: Maybe it's like some automatic subscription service that you're found.
Speaker 2: I don't know. And what if they figure it out
Speaker 2: in two years, but then they don't reanimate you for
Speaker 2: ten years, so then you're paying fifty five dollars a
Speaker 2: month or ten years. This is this is a scam
Speaker 2: if I've ever heard one. Yeah, I don't.
Speaker 3: I really don't know how the how the business would
Speaker 3: collect money afterwards. That's interesting. Actually, it would have to
Speaker 3: come from trust. I would listen if the if the
Speaker 3: business is making fifty five dollars a month off of
Speaker 3: all these people, why would they ever figure out how
Speaker 3: to reanimate them? Because once they did, yeah, then it's
Speaker 3: like no, yeah.
Speaker 2: Because what if what if they figured it out quick
Speaker 2: and then they just are like, we're not going to
Speaker 2: get to you for a couple of years and then
Speaker 2: you just keep paying the fee. I don't know, I
Speaker 2: don't I don't like it one bit. Praying, praying on
Speaker 2: people's if he dies, he dies, if phobias, Yeah, all right.
Speaker 2: Last year in California, a woman had been admitted to
Speaker 2: the hospital after having a diabetic episode. So first I
Speaker 2: wanted to ask, like, what what could that be a
Speaker 2: diabetic episode?
Speaker 3: She probably so it looks like she has a history
Speaker 3: of diabetes, and she probably just had like a really
Speaker 3: extremely high blood sugar. I think during that hospital visit
Speaker 3: she ended up getting an amputation of some sorts or
Speaker 3: had some kind of wound on her foot.
Speaker 2: So you know that.
Speaker 3: That's definitely a risk if especially if you have I mean,
Speaker 3: because she's young, thirty one, but she obviously has some
Speaker 3: kind of uncontrolled diabetes.
Speaker 2: Yeah, So during this visit, she calls her mother and says,
Speaker 2: can you come pick me up? And then the mom
Speaker 2: shows up to the hospital and they're like, oh, she
Speaker 2: checked herself out even though the doctors told her not to.
Speaker 2: So after this point the family, she essentially goes missing,
Speaker 2: and the family's looking for her for an entire year.
Speaker 2: They have no idea where she is. They're under the
Speaker 2: assumption because the hospital told her that she checked out,
Speaker 2: that she left. They don't know anything. They're assuming the
Speaker 2: absolute worst. And it turns out that after a year,
Speaker 2: the family was alerted by police that she had actually
Speaker 2: been in the morgue of the hospital the entire time,
Speaker 2: over a year.
Speaker 3: I don't I just don't know how this happened. They're
Speaker 3: saying that she was in an off site warehouse Morgan
Speaker 3: in California.
Speaker 2: I don't even know what the hell that is.
Speaker 3: I know, like every single hospital that I've ever worked at,
Speaker 3: and granted it's only been in Pennsylvania, New Jersey, so
Speaker 3: I can't say what happens in the rest of the country.
Speaker 3: But when we have a body that doesn't get picked
Speaker 3: up for like a week, like not a very long time.
Speaker 3: I think our limit was at the one hospital I
Speaker 3: worked at, was like seven days. Like, if that body
Speaker 3: doesn't get picked up by a funeral home in seven days,
Speaker 3: we call the medical examiner, and the medical Examiner's office comes,
Speaker 3: yeah and takes the body.
Speaker 2: And didn't we cover in the interview we did about
Speaker 2: that book the unclaimed that only they hold onto the
Speaker 2: bodies for about like ninety days or something and then
Speaker 2: they are automatically cremated if nobody claims them. Yeah, And
Speaker 2: didn't that book take place in California?
Speaker 3: Yeah, So I My whole point of saying this, though,
Speaker 3: is that I don't know what an off site warehouse
Speaker 3: morgue is because in the hospital, like at the bigger
Speaker 3: hospitals that I've worked at, we had an off room
Speaker 3: for like six to ten bodies in some different locations,
Speaker 3: and then smaller hospitals might only be able to fit
Speaker 3: like one or two bodies.
Speaker 2: That's it.
Speaker 3: Like when they don't fit the bodies anymore, we would
Speaker 3: just call the medical examiner and just be like, we
Speaker 3: don't have anywhere to put bodies we need because they
Speaker 3: because at the medical Examiner's office they have like huge
Speaker 3: walk in fridges that they could accommodate more bodies, right,
Speaker 3: So I never heard of a hospital having an off
Speaker 3: site morgue like that. That's weird to me. So it
Speaker 3: doesn't it doesn't make any sense. And I also don't
Speaker 3: know how somehow paperwork said that what happened was the
Speaker 3: lady was probably like, I want to leave, but then
Speaker 3: and maybe she was going to leave, because you know,
Speaker 3: when you're getting ready to leave the hospital, it still
Speaker 3: takes two hours for them to do your paperwork.
Speaker 2: Maybe she maybe she died in that period. So she
Speaker 2: she died two hours after the phone call. So that's
Speaker 2: what their records reflect, is that.
Speaker 3: Okay, so that's probably what happened. Then she she died
Speaker 3: while right, yeah, like she said she was going to
Speaker 3: leave or something I don't know.
Speaker 2: In the middle of the discharge like period. Then she died.
Speaker 2: But you know, then they're saying to the parents, oh,
Speaker 2: she did leave, but she never actually left. I don't know.
Speaker 3: There's just something that doesn't make sense here, because, like,
Speaker 3: let's say that happened at any any of the hospitals
Speaker 3: I worked at. The body went to the morgue at
Speaker 3: some point, because why would it go to an off
Speaker 3: like an off in a warehouse, it would go down
Speaker 3: to the refrigerator that's in the hospital because that's the
Speaker 3: nurse would have to bring the body down there, right,
Speaker 3: That's just what happens. So then me, the person that
Speaker 3: works in the morgue would be like, Okay, there's a
Speaker 3: body here and I don't have paperwork for it.
Speaker 2: Who is this? Ye? Right? And then the investigation would
Speaker 2: start that day. Well, so they it just doesn't make
Speaker 2: sense to me. It said they didn't fill out her
Speaker 2: death certificate for an entire year, which like how and
Speaker 2: then the police notified the family. So I'm thinking, like,
Speaker 2: is there like some major scandal going on there where
Speaker 2: the police had to get involved and then they discovered
Speaker 2: these people? And how many people are dying at the
Speaker 2: hospital that it requires an off site morgue? Like how
Speaker 2: many people could you keep? You worked at a major hospital,
Speaker 2: so like how many people could fit in that more there? Oh?
Speaker 3: Well, because the hospital was old, we were only able
Speaker 3: to hold six bodies. But then we had another little
Speaker 3: hospital that was attached. I had a fridge that could
Speaker 3: hold two to three bodies, and sometimes a rare times
Speaker 3: we had to use that as like an overflow. It
Speaker 3: usually happened like on Memorial Day weekend or something because
Speaker 3: we were closed for a three day weekend and then
Speaker 3: we just didn't have that extra day to like release
Speaker 3: bodies to the funeral home and stuff that was that
Speaker 3: particular hospital.
Speaker 2: But most hospital.
Speaker 3: Security releases them, so it happens every single day. But
Speaker 3: I like, I just I really just don't know.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 3: I don't know why there was why there is an overflow,
Speaker 3: because you would assume that when there's bodies that aren'tetting
Speaker 3: picked up, they're going to the medical Examiner's office.
Speaker 2: So could you could you see a world in which
Speaker 2: that they had a similar situation where they had like
Speaker 2: another smaller house hospital taking them and they were referring
Speaker 2: to that as an off site site morgue, Like they're
Speaker 2: just not correctly addressing it.
Speaker 3: Listen, anything could have happened. But the thing is is
Speaker 3: that there's whoever was working I guess this is my point,
Speaker 3: whoever was working at this other morgue.
Speaker 2: Why why weren't.
Speaker 3: They like who is this yeah? And why aren't they
Speaker 3: getting picked up? And they should be Like when we
Speaker 3: had people that weren't picked up for only two days,
Speaker 3: I would start calling around and being like, cause you
Speaker 3: have information and family members phone numbers and stuff, and
Speaker 3: you know when you fill out those papers when you
Speaker 3: go in the hospital, like who's an emergency contact? I
Speaker 3: would start calling people and being like, did you start
Speaker 3: setting up funeral arrangements? We only could keep her here
Speaker 3: for another five days and then she's gonna have to
Speaker 3: get transported to the Medical Examiner's office. Do you want
Speaker 3: to send somebody over here? Like figure this out? And
Speaker 3: then it Sometimes they would be like, oh, we can't financially,
Speaker 3: we can't do it. We're just trying to figure it out.
Speaker 3: Just give us a couple more days. And we would
Speaker 3: always bend and accommodate people as much as we could.
Speaker 3: But then there were other times where people you just
Speaker 3: clearly knew that nobody was ever coming to get them,
Speaker 3: so we were like, all right, well we'll just send
Speaker 3: them to the emme's office. And and that's that. That's
Speaker 3: why I don't understand hospital wise, But whoever worked there
Speaker 3: should have should have just been just know, like been
Speaker 3: trying to figure out like why nobody was picking this
Speaker 3: person up? Well, yeah, and like why did I don't
Speaker 3: So I don't know what I don't know what what
Speaker 3: goes on over there? Like I never worked over there.
Speaker 3: It says a Sacramento County Detective's office is the or
Speaker 3: the people that notified the family, So like a what
Speaker 3: point did the detective get involved? Like they clearly didn't
Speaker 3: have information about her or something, and then they were
Speaker 3: saying she was really decomposed and there the whole thing is.
Speaker 3: The thing is when you with refrigeration, though, is that
Speaker 3: it slows down decomposition, but it doesn't stop it. So
Speaker 3: for example, I have like a little mini fridge outside
Speaker 3: that I put some like pork in like three weeks
Speaker 3: ago that I was cooking on the grill that I
Speaker 3: was like, oh, I'll just stick it in there for
Speaker 3: a minute until I go in the house and then
Speaker 3: I just forgot about it.
Speaker 2: Mm hm.
Speaker 3: And like Gabe opened up the freezer the other day
Speaker 3: the fridge and was just like what the f Like
Speaker 3: it smells terrible backyard. Yeah That's what I'm saying though,
Speaker 3: but like a raw person in the fridge, like the
Speaker 3: if the pork was on the counter like sitting outside,
Speaker 3: it would have smelled in a day, but it took
Speaker 3: a couple of weeks for that to happen. Outside because
Speaker 3: it was in the refrigerator, you know what I mean,
Speaker 3: the same thing happens to people like it slows it down,
Speaker 3: but it doesn't stop it. So you're going to be
Speaker 3: if you're in a refrigerator and you're dead for a year,
Speaker 3: you're going to be decomposed.
Speaker 2: Well, the family suing, which I would agree with this, I.
Speaker 3: Think it is a hundred I one hundred percent agree
Speaker 3: with this, and it's it's like multiple departments and they
Speaker 3: need they have a procedure problem here of who's in
Speaker 3: charge here, who's in charge here. That's why I'm so
Speaker 3: mind blown by it because every single hospital I worked,
Speaker 3: there's so many boxes to check between departments, so something
Speaker 3: like this could never happen that I can't even understand
Speaker 3: how it happens. It has to be a failure on
Speaker 3: the part of multiple different people working at this place,
Speaker 3: not just one.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean just.
Speaker 3: They absolutely should sue, and I'm sure there's a detective
Speaker 3: involved because it's probably likely that there's other people that
Speaker 3: are having issues with this as well.
Speaker 1: Well.
Speaker 2: People came forward saying that, I mean, I don't know,
Speaker 2: this has to still be proven, but they're saying this
Speaker 2: is not the first time this hospital has mishandled the decedent.
Speaker 2: So I'm wondering if this is going to expose some
Speaker 2: really large problem they're having their.
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 2: All right, let's move on to our last story. So
Speaker 2: this one's local to us out of West Philly. So
Speaker 2: last week Agaen sent me this.
Speaker 3: Actually, oh Jen sent you this, so and I was like, oh,
Speaker 3: this this has a good learning tidbit to it.
Speaker 2: So last week a woman said she began smelling something
Speaker 2: really horrible near her house. So finally this past Sunday,
Speaker 2: it just kept getting worse over the week and she
Speaker 2: went to investigate it, and in this park behind her house,
Speaker 2: she found a decomposing body hanging from a tree.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so I like, listen, there could be lots of
Speaker 3: different things that happened here, but I think we could
Speaker 3: safely roll out a natural cause of death. It's more
Speaker 3: than likely suicide, and the person probably just hung themselves
Speaker 3: and or hanged themselves and that's it, like they just
Speaker 3: got found that in that way. I mean it could
Speaker 3: be a homicide as well too, but I think that
Speaker 3: it's pretty safe to say that we could roll out
Speaker 3: a natural cause of death or an accident cause it day. Yeah,
Speaker 3: though you never know, I guess, but I mean this,
Speaker 3: This happens sometimes because people don't want their family members
Speaker 3: to find them, so they go out into the woods
Speaker 3: and they do something like this, and they'll send the
Speaker 3: body to the medical examiner's office and they'll do an
Speaker 3: autopsy and see what the cause of death was. They'll
Speaker 3: be able to tell by the ligature mark on the
Speaker 3: neck if it's if there's enough soft tissue left, which
Speaker 3: there probably is, if it smelled that bad, and they'll
Speaker 3: be able to see, you know, the scene and everything.
Speaker 3: They'll take pictures and see how everything looked, if there
Speaker 3: was like a chair underneath the body, for example, or
Speaker 3: so something like that. So it's it's unfortunate that someone
Speaker 3: had to find somebody like that. No, it's very disturbing
Speaker 3: to see.
Speaker 2: Okay, on New Questions of the Day every Friday at
Speaker 2: the at Mother Knows Death Instagram account, we put up
Speaker 2: a story and you guys could ask what every question
Speaker 2: you want. So first, what's a medical word that people
Speaker 2: always mispronounced that drives you nuts? This person says, there's
Speaker 2: is larynx? Did I say it? Ritt?
Speaker 3: I know, I'm like, so, Okay, this is an interesting story.
Speaker 3: So when I went to I was at the medical
Speaker 3: examiner's office on one of my rotations and we went
Speaker 3: to I went to court with one of the medical
Speaker 3: examiners who was testifying on a manual strangulation case, and
Speaker 3: he was talking about everything that happened when you get
Speaker 3: strangled and stuff like that, and then the defense attorney
Speaker 3: he kept saying, so.
Speaker 2: You're mean to say when they squeezed the.
Speaker 3: Larnings, and he kept saying larnings, and then it just
Speaker 3: was it just sounded so bad because he kept mispronouncing it.
Speaker 3: And I'm like, you're not trying to win your case
Speaker 3: because you act like you don't even really know what
Speaker 3: you're talking about because you're not even saying the word right.
Speaker 3: Kind of Yeah, But I like, I honestly, I don't.
Speaker 3: I don't get annoyed when people mispronounce stuff because I'm
Speaker 3: mispronounced everything all the time. I get that from my father.
Speaker 3: I don't quite have it as bad as him, but
Speaker 3: he's also almost eighty, so I'm slowly getting there. I'm
Speaker 3: not too much of a you know, on people like that,
Speaker 3: but that the the larynx thing is what made me
Speaker 3: think of the LARNNX story because a lot of people
Speaker 3: do say LARNNX.
Speaker 2: So do you have a word that people no, I don't.
Speaker 2: I don't. I don't care when people like I don't
Speaker 2: like that.
Speaker 3: I honestly I don't like that because like when I was,
Speaker 3: when I was growing up and stuff, It's just like
Speaker 3: I feel like I've heard adults like kind of correcting
Speaker 3: my dad if he says something wrong, or like people
Speaker 3: correct me if I'm said something wrong, and I just think,
Speaker 3: you know, pop Up has this line that's like what's
Speaker 3: the difference, and it's true.
Speaker 2: It's like, you know what I meant? Like who cares
Speaker 2: like it? It's it's just like there's bigger I don't know.
Speaker 2: I just don't really care. Okay, So this list asked
Speaker 2: I can queef on demand what is the pathology behind us?
Speaker 2: So they're asking what the pathology behind that is and
Speaker 2: is it air going into her uterus?
Speaker 3: Yeah it is, there's not really I wouldn't consider it.
Speaker 3: It's not the same as like a fart, because a
Speaker 3: fart is created is bacteria that's in the bow that's
Speaker 3: creates gas and that's what comes out and that's why
Speaker 3: it smells. Because it's from bacteria breaking down the food.
Speaker 3: But there's no bacteria inside of the uterus under normal circumstances,
Speaker 3: so it's not cause of that. It's more because of
Speaker 3: air that gets pushed up there. So I think in
Speaker 3: women that have never given childbirth vaginally and their cervical
Speaker 3: oss is pretty that's like the opening to get up
Speaker 3: inside the uterus is pretty closed tight, they are less
Speaker 3: likely to experience a quef I hate that word, though,
Speaker 3: I do a vaginal fart, flagulence, whatever you want to
Speaker 3: call it, because air has a harder time getting up there.
Speaker 3: But if you have a cervical os that has been
Speaker 3: opened because a baby came through it, and it's a
Speaker 3: little bit wider, and then you do things like insert
Speaker 3: tampons or sex or dildos or anything, you're like pushing
Speaker 3: air up into there. Then it goes up into the
Speaker 3: uterus and then like if you sit down or something,
Speaker 3: it could just come out and it sounds like a fart,
Speaker 3: but just really it's just a transfer of air. And
Speaker 3: you know, again, congrats that you could do that, that
Speaker 3: you could do that on command. There is a rare
Speaker 3: circumstance where that could be a like pathology and sometimes
Speaker 3: you can get something called a fistula, which is a
Speaker 3: communication between either the bladder, so the bladder sits in
Speaker 3: front of your vagina and your rectum sits on the
Speaker 3: other side of your vagina, which is like why when
Speaker 3: you get your period you get that weird butthole.
Speaker 2: Pain and stuff, you know.
Speaker 3: But sometimes there could be a communication between the ractum
Speaker 3: and the vagina where the bladder in the vagina, so
Speaker 3: like p would come out of your vagina, or poop
Speaker 3: can come out of your vagina, which could cause gas
Speaker 3: to come out of your vagina.
Speaker 2: But that would be.
Speaker 3: Obviously like a more serious situation, but that doesn't happen
Speaker 3: very often, so it's more than likely you just have
Speaker 3: like a big open cervical oss that's letting the air
Speaker 3: in when you have sex or and then you could
Speaker 3: push it out.
Speaker 2: All right, all right, last question, what are our favorite
Speaker 2: things to discuss.
Speaker 3: Like when like on the show? Probably so this is
Speaker 3: this is an interesting question.
Speaker 2: So I had one of our.
Speaker 3: Grocery members that's that's very active in the grocer room,
Speaker 3: had sent me a story this week about a terrible
Speaker 3: case that would fit underneath of the true crime section.
Speaker 3: I'll just tell you about it. It just had something
Speaker 3: to do with like parents handcuffing their child and like
Speaker 3: letting a pit bull attack the child, and there's this
Speaker 3: like I had it there and then I took it
Speaker 3: out because I'm just like, you know what, I know
Speaker 3: that we talk about a lot of heavy, upsetting material,
Speaker 3: but there's certain things that I just don't even we
Speaker 3: can't even talk about and like try to make it lighthearted,
Speaker 3: and I just I'm choosing not to even add certain
Speaker 3: stories in anymore because they're so gross and disturbing, and
Speaker 3: especially with like children getting abused and things like that.
Speaker 3: So we my like, my favorite story in the true
Speaker 3: crime section this week is the guy singing the Tina
Speaker 3: Turner songs like fun like not very disturbing, but at
Speaker 3: the same time kind of funny or unusual or things
Speaker 3: like that. And obviously, like I love medical stuff, so
Speaker 3: anything that has to do with anything medical or natural
Speaker 3: pathology is my favorite to talk about on this show,
Speaker 3: how about you.
Speaker 2: I like the celebrity category a lot, just because I'm
Speaker 2: very naturally into pop culture stuff. True crime, again, like
Speaker 2: it's it's very heavy, so those stories aren't always easy
Speaker 2: to talk about. But sometimes when we get into some
Speaker 2: of the more you know, like sensationalized cases like Brian
Speaker 2: Koberger and stuff. I enjoy talking about those because they're
Speaker 2: so involved. My favorite kinds of talk about are probably
Speaker 2: ones like you know on this week's episode, like the
Speaker 2: yacht sinking, just because there's so many like layers to
Speaker 2: the story, and even that one might be at face value,
Speaker 2: but when, for example, like when the uh Titanic or
Speaker 2: the tight and submersible thing happened last year, Like, those
Speaker 2: stories to me are so weird and unusual and one
Speaker 2: of a kind situations that I find them very fascinating.
Speaker 2: So another question we got that I had cut was
Speaker 2: was are there cases that you've been interested in but
Speaker 2: then when you started looking into it, you've started like
Speaker 2: getting really invested in deep diving. And I would say,
Speaker 2: those are the cases things like that that are weird
Speaker 2: and sensationalized and don't happen often and you know, just
Speaker 2: have like a million things going on behind the scenes,
Speaker 2: like I could have. I know you found the yacht
Speaker 2: story boring, but I probably couldn't.
Speaker 3: I'm like, this is why this is maybe why our
Speaker 3: podcast works, because I have like absolutely no interest in
Speaker 3: that story. It makes me want to fall asleep when
Speaker 3: you're talking about it's just like, okay, like I don't
Speaker 3: know just you, you're you're you, You've been like this
Speaker 3: your whole life, Like you're very into like.
Speaker 2: What celebrities are doing, person like that you are, and
Speaker 2: I'm just like, who gives a fuck? Like they're regular,
Speaker 2: Like I don't. I don't roll over. You know.
Speaker 3: People are always like what celebrity would you want to meet?
Speaker 3: And this and that, and I'm just like, I don't
Speaker 3: care that. It does nothing for me. But Maria is
Speaker 3: just like the kind of person that would cry at
Speaker 3: a Beatles concert.
Speaker 2: Like I don't do that anymore. And I hate the Beatles.
Speaker 2: Sorry controversial statement. I don't like them.
Speaker 3: Well, I love them, so yeah, I know that my
Speaker 3: chemical romance is just like way more usually talented thirteen.
Speaker 3: When I tried I like them, you I still like. No.
Speaker 2: I never said I didn't like them. I listened to
Speaker 2: them all the time. I cried when I was thirteen
Speaker 2: years old at their concert.
Speaker 1: No.
Speaker 2: I think that's why our dynamic work. So because like
Speaker 2: for me, the medical stories are painful for me to
Speaker 2: write notes, I don't care about half of them, so
Speaker 2: that's like your favorite category. Where for me, I was
Speaker 2: late writing notes today because I was searching the yacht
Speaker 2: story alone for probably like an hour and a half,
Speaker 2: so I could.
Speaker 3: Have done we're really into the the Titanic one was
Speaker 3: was semi interesting me for five minutes, but then all
Speaker 3: the stuff that kept coming out, like I just like,
Speaker 3: I just I don't know, I just kind of turn off,
Speaker 3: like I don't care.
Speaker 2: When that happened that week, I was going on vacation
Speaker 2: to Tennessee for a week and we decided to cover it.
Speaker 2: It happened, I think a couple of days. It happened
Speaker 2: a week before I was leaving on a Tuesday to
Speaker 2: go on vacation, and we decided Saturday we were going
Speaker 2: to do it is the dissection that week. So I
Speaker 2: was like, okay, like on Sunday, because I want to
Speaker 2: make sure I get all my stuff done before I leave,
Speaker 2: I'm going to just do it my quick write up
Speaker 2: about it. And of course it ended up being like
Speaker 2: a twelve hour day for me because then as I
Speaker 2: started researching more and more and more, all this other
Speaker 2: crazy shit started coming out about you know, how the
Speaker 2: thing was made, And then I'm like I can't just
Speaker 2: write a quick summary about this, like I have to.
Speaker 2: I have to write everything about it. And then everybody
Speaker 2: thought it exploded, but then it imploded and then that
Speaker 2: had a whole different element to it and the water pressure,
Speaker 2: Oh my god, Like just like, who cares, Kara, I
Speaker 2: think these stories are so fascinating, Okay, but on that
Speaker 2: they are. On that note, uh, we will be back
Speaker 2: eventually with six shocking stories. So make sure to submit
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm looking I'm looking forward to seeing the reviews, honestly,
Speaker 3: and so I think this week on Thursday, we're going
Speaker 3: to do another news episode because we didn't record for
Speaker 3: what it's been a while since we did the last
Speaker 3: news episode.
Speaker 2: We didn't record last week, so we had a.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we had a lot of stories which I moved
Speaker 3: over for Thursday, so we have still have and whatever
Speaker 3: is going to happen in the next three days, which
Speaker 3: you never know in.
Speaker 2: This crazy world.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so yeah, Well we'll be back on Thursday with
Speaker 3: some more news stories. Thanks for being here, guys. Bye,
Speaker 3: Thank you for listening to Mother nos Death. As a reminder,
Speaker 3: my training is as a pathologists assistant. I have a
Speaker 3: master's level education and specialize in anatomy and pathology education.
Speaker 3: I am not a doctor and I have not diagnosed
Speaker 3: or treated anyone dead or alive without the assistance of
Speaker 3: a licensed medical doctor. This show, my website, and social
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Speaker 3: on my experience working in pathology, so they can make
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Speaker 2: Thanks