WEBVTT - The Mirabal Sisters: For Freedom

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<v Speaker 1>Just a quick content warning before we start the show.

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<v Speaker 1>There is talk of sexual abuse, gender based violence, and

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<v Speaker 1>massacre in this episode, So if there are young ones around,

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<v Speaker 1>or if that's something that you don't want to hear,

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<v Speaker 1>please be aware of that. Something I think about, probably

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<v Speaker 1>entirely too often, is the role that faith plays in

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<v Speaker 1>my daily life. If you just rolled your eyes, know

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<v Speaker 1>that I don't mean this sentimentally. I mean a more

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<v Speaker 1>practical faith, you know, the kind that gives me confidence

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<v Speaker 1>to walk out into this world full of natural disaster

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<v Speaker 1>and human apathy, The one that keeps me from refusing

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<v Speaker 1>to ever take risks, and that doesn't let my anxiety

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<v Speaker 1>take over every time it wants to the trust that

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<v Speaker 1>I have every time I hop behind the will of

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<v Speaker 1>my car or in the passenger seat of someone else's.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe that word doesn't seem like it fits into a

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<v Speaker 1>conversation about people who challenge norms thought unconventionally, analyze problems

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<v Speaker 1>and found solutions, or lead revolutions with strategy and common sense.

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<v Speaker 1>The word faith is bedfellows with terms like optimism, faith, surrender, belief,

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<v Speaker 1>so on and so forth, Basically words that, when used together,

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<v Speaker 1>can make me seem like I'm trying to sell some

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<v Speaker 1>sort of snake oil ones that can make it seem

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<v Speaker 1>like logic and planning have no place here and all

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<v Speaker 1>we need to get things done is the one and

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<v Speaker 1>only the reliable faith. But I don't think the people

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<v Speaker 1>we talk about here on Unpopular would have the same

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<v Speaker 1>stories if some degree of faith wasn't part of their story,

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<v Speaker 1>if they didn't believe that what they were doing would

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<v Speaker 1>make some sort of meaningful difference, or they didn't trust

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<v Speaker 1>that their movements had a chance of succeeding. For folks

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<v Speaker 1>betting on a revolution or a complete reversal in society's

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<v Speaker 1>way of being, or thinking, there may be no one

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<v Speaker 1>to one precedent for the changes they're trying to make.

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<v Speaker 1>That means that they may have to believe in an

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<v Speaker 1>outcome for which there is no proof. There may be

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<v Speaker 1>doubts or adjustments along the way, but challenging a status

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<v Speaker 1>quo requires a person to envision a different future and

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<v Speaker 1>to have conviction that the charge they're leading will help

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<v Speaker 1>steer society in that direction. I'd say that pursuing a

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<v Speaker 1>goal or publicly supporting an idea so radical or exceptional

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<v Speaker 1>that people may shun you or view you as a

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<v Speaker 1>threat takes a leap of faith. I'm Eves Jeff Cote

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<v Speaker 1>and This is Unpopular a podcast about people in history

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<v Speaker 1>who didn't let the threat of persecution keep them from

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<v Speaker 1>speaking truth to power. Today we turn our attention to

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<v Speaker 1>the Meta Ball Sisters, Patria, Minerva, Maria and are collectively

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<v Speaker 1>known as the meat of Ball Sisters. They were born

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<v Speaker 1>in the nineteen twenties and nineteen thirties in the Dominican Republic,

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<v Speaker 1>a Caribbean country that borders Haiti on the island of Hispaniola.

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<v Speaker 1>The United States pie the Dominican Republic from nineteen sixteen

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<v Speaker 1>until nineteen twenty four, the year that the oldest meat

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<v Speaker 1>of all Sister Patria was born. That same year, the

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<v Speaker 1>US began withdrawing from the country, and Harasio Vasquez was

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<v Speaker 1>elected President of the Dominican Republic with the backing of

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<v Speaker 1>the United States. I'm leaving out a lot of history here,

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<v Speaker 1>but over the years, Hispaniola was the object of imperial lust,

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<v Speaker 1>a place of strategic and economic importance, a site of

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<v Speaker 1>racist violence, a breeding ground for rebellion and revolution, and

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<v Speaker 1>an island where political and economic instability were normal. So

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<v Speaker 1>we arrived at Vasquez presidency. He took office in October

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<v Speaker 1>of nineteen twenty four and held onto it until nineteen thirty,

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<v Speaker 1>after having extended the presidential term to six years rather

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<v Speaker 1>than four. His administration was corrupt and ineffective, and people

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<v Speaker 1>began to call for his outst As the nineteen thirty

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<v Speaker 1>elections approached, Raphael Estrea Na took power as provisional president

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<v Speaker 1>and Vasquez went into exile. General Raphael Leonita Trujillo Molina

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<v Speaker 1>then won the presidential election as the only candidate, as

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<v Speaker 1>he had forced the other candidates out of the election

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<v Speaker 1>through intimidation and harassment. Estrea was named vice president. Truilla

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<v Speaker 1>ruled the Dominican Republic as a dictator until nineteen sixty one.

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<v Speaker 1>Under his regime, the press was censored and dissenters were

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<v Speaker 1>tortured and killed. He appointed family members to important offices.

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<v Speaker 1>He controlled pretty much every part of society, including entertainment

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<v Speaker 1>and education. He even renamed the capital and landmarks after himself,

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<v Speaker 1>and he accumulated wealth by securing commissions on public works

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<v Speaker 1>projects and taking ownership of land, airlines, and manufacturers. He

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<v Speaker 1>even called for the massacre of thousands of Haitians and

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<v Speaker 1>Dominicans of Haitian dissent along the Dominican Haitian border. Despite

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<v Speaker 1>thruos oppressive, totalitarian, and brutal regime, he built an image

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<v Speaker 1>as a nationalist, upholder of Dominican values and a messiah

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<v Speaker 1>who people feared yet admired. He did bring a modicum

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<v Speaker 1>of political and economic stability to the country, though I'm

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<v Speaker 1>saying this with the huge asterisk that in no way

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<v Speaker 1>canceled out all the abuse, poverty, human rights violations, violence

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<v Speaker 1>and corruption rampant in the administration. It was under this

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<v Speaker 1>regime that the meta Ball sisters lived. They were born

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<v Speaker 1>in ojode Agua, a town in Salcedo and the Dominican Republic.

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<v Speaker 1>Their parents were Enrique and Mercedes Mirabal, and they were

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<v Speaker 1>part of a relatively well to do, middle class family.

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<v Speaker 1>The four sisters attended the Coleo Immaculata Concepcion, a Catholic

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<v Speaker 1>boarding school in La Vega. They all married and had children.

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<v Speaker 1>Maria Teresa studied math at the University of Santo Domingo

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<v Speaker 1>and Minerva studied law at the same university. In October

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<v Speaker 1>of nineteen four nine, thru Hio held a party at

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<v Speaker 1>his mansion in San Crustobal, the mayor of their town,

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<v Speaker 1>personally delivered the Meat of Ball Sister's invitation to the

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<v Speaker 1>party to them, so they felt obliged to go. Mineeva

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<v Speaker 1>had caught Thruhio's attention and he approached her, but she

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<v Speaker 1>rejected his advances. Through Rio's sexual abuse of women was

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<v Speaker 1>well known. He married three times and had mistresses. He

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<v Speaker 1>had people go out and find young women and bringing

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<v Speaker 1>them back to him to stay a night or longer

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<v Speaker 1>so he could rape them. Dominican families would make their

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<v Speaker 1>daughters hide when he was in town, so, needless to say,

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<v Speaker 1>her rejections did not go over well with thru Hio.

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<v Speaker 1>The Meat of Ball sisters father was soon imprisoned, and

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<v Speaker 1>he died. Soon after he was released, Mineeva and her

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<v Speaker 1>mother were held hostage in a hotel in Santo Domingo,

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<v Speaker 1>only to be released if Mineeva slept with thru Hillo,

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<v Speaker 1>though she refused. They eventually escaped, but through Yo's quest

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<v Speaker 1>for vengeance did not in there. Minativa's rejections led through

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<v Speaker 1>Hio to wage a vendetta against the Meat of Balls.

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<v Speaker 1>The family was put under surveillance by the government and

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<v Speaker 1>dinged for even the tiniest reported slights against thru Hio,

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<v Speaker 1>people in contact with them were locked up or brutalized.

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<v Speaker 1>Me Natava was not allowed to go back to school

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<v Speaker 1>and put under arrest in her parents house for three years,

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<v Speaker 1>during which time she wrote poetry about social issues in

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<v Speaker 1>the Dominican Republic. In nineteen fifty seven, she was allowed

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<v Speaker 1>to return to law school if she praised through Hio

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<v Speaker 1>and his leadership. She did so and ended up graduating

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<v Speaker 1>summa cum laude. Still, she was refused a license to

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<v Speaker 1>practice law. Between the abuse they had suffered personally at

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<v Speaker 1>the hands of thru Hio, the atrocities they saw him

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<v Speaker 1>commit against other people, and the inspiration they received from

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<v Speaker 1>the Cuban Revolution, the Meat of All Sisters were moved

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<v Speaker 1>to join the move it against the dictator. When a

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<v Speaker 1>group of Dominican exiles who trained in Cuba with Fidel

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<v Speaker 1>Castro support, returned to the Dominican Republic in nineteen fifty

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<v Speaker 1>nine to topple through Hero's dictatorship, the activism of the

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<v Speaker 1>Meat of Ball Sisters, along with many other Dominican people,

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<v Speaker 1>was kicked into high gear. We'll be back after this

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<v Speaker 1>quick break. History repeats itself. We hear this phrase a lot,

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<v Speaker 1>a statement repeated as a hard fact, undeniable. It's clear

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<v Speaker 1>in war and fashion, But there are a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>things in history. We can largely agree that we don't

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<v Speaker 1>want to repeat the Black Death, for instance, Yet things

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<v Speaker 1>that happen are often things we don't want to happen.

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<v Speaker 1>When someone to sense and attempts to incite drastic or

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<v Speaker 1>at least meaningful change, they can work super hard to

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<v Speaker 1>reach that goal and still not attain the success they'd

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<v Speaker 1>hoped for. Hope, desire, and belief don't get the job

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<v Speaker 1>done alone. But sometimes it can feel like we're in

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<v Speaker 1>a hamster will, like we're stuck in a vicious cycle

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<v Speaker 1>of oppression. Like even when we take two steps forward,

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<v Speaker 1>we're taking more backward. How hard is it to maintain

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<v Speaker 1>any sort of sense of things being better or even

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<v Speaker 1>different when things have been bad for a long time,

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<v Speaker 1>Or what is the point in imagining a future at all? Hopelessness,

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<v Speaker 1>cynicism about the future, and settling for less can set

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<v Speaker 1>in easily, but hope could be a starting point. By that,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean the ability to see beyond the current state

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<v Speaker 1>of things and belief in the simple possibility for change.

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<v Speaker 1>At some point comes before action that drives change. Rather

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<v Speaker 1>than thinking of hope as a crutch of the naive

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<v Speaker 1>allible are innocent, maybe it's better to think about it

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<v Speaker 1>as a necessary part of empowering people to think differently

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<v Speaker 1>and consider political or cultural shifts they couldn't have bad

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<v Speaker 1>them before. By the end of the nineteen fifties, resentment

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<v Speaker 1>of thru Hio had reached a peak and people were

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<v Speaker 1>planning attempts to overthrow the regime. Minerovamabal was the first

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<v Speaker 1>of the Sisters to become active in the fight against

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<v Speaker 1>the dictatorship, even though it was dangerous business. She befriended

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<v Speaker 1>Peticleistroco Orniss, who founded the Popular Socialist Party and had

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<v Speaker 1>been imprisoned for his opposition to thru Hillo. She was

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<v Speaker 1>also drawn to leftist literature and intercepted radio stations out

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<v Speaker 1>of Cuba and Venezuela that discussed politics in the Dominican Republic.

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<v Speaker 1>Fidel Castro's leadership and the Cuban Revolution, which ended on

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<v Speaker 1>January first, nineteen fifty nine, with Cuban dictator full Hintsil

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<v Speaker 1>Bautista fleeing to the Dominican Republic, helped inspire hope in

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<v Speaker 1>Dominican people who wished to fight through Hio's oppressed of rule. Minaova,

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<v Speaker 1>Maria Teresa and their husbands spoke of launching a national

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<v Speaker 1>resistance movement against Trillo. Dominican exiles in Cuba had organized

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<v Speaker 1>in Cuba and trained in military guerrilla tactics with the

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<v Speaker 1>intent of overthrowing through Villo. On June fourteenth, nineteen fifty nine,

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<v Speaker 1>a Dominican named Enrique Humenes Moya led a group of

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<v Speaker 1>insurrectionists who landed in several Dominican cities. Besides Dominicans, Cubans, Spaniards,

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<v Speaker 1>Puerto Ricans, Venezuelans and Americans also took part in the insurrection,

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<v Speaker 1>but the Dominican Republic had been given a heads up

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<v Speaker 1>for the attack and the army and air force shut

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<v Speaker 1>it down. Most of the people who participated in the

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<v Speaker 1>uprising were killed and many were tortured in prison. This

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<v Speaker 1>uprising was the namesake for the Cotors de Junio movement

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<v Speaker 1>or fourteenth of June movement, also known as one j

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<v Speaker 1>four or one four j. Though the attempts to overthrow

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<v Speaker 1>Trullo had been unsuccessful, people in the Dominican Republic were

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<v Speaker 1>stirring up rebellion. The Meat of All Sisters and their

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<v Speaker 1>husbands helped form the fourteenth of June movement a year

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<v Speaker 1>after the revolutionaries victory in the Cuban Revolution. Manola travadez Usto,

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<v Speaker 1>a lawyer and Minerva's husband, was the president of the group.

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<v Speaker 1>Leandro Gusman, Maria Theres's husband was named treasurer. Many of

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<v Speaker 1>the people involved in the movement, including peasants, factory workers,

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<v Speaker 1>the wealthy, and intellectuals, were from Puerto Plata, an industrial

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<v Speaker 1>northern city. Trullo flexed his muscle against the city by

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<v Speaker 1>cutting off rail services to the area and isolating his

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<v Speaker 1>shipping ports. Many of the people in the movement were

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<v Speaker 1>also members of prominent families and relatives of Thruvio himself.

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<v Speaker 1>Despite Throo's attempts to suppress his opposition, criticism and defiance

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<v Speaker 1>of the dictator and his policies only grew. We're going

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<v Speaker 1>to take a quick break. The meet of Ball sisters

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<v Speaker 1>and their husbands began organizing the resistance. They got hundreds

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<v Speaker 1>of people to pass out pamphlets detailing the crimes the

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<v Speaker 1>regime had committed. They began gathering guns and bombs, and

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<v Speaker 1>through their work in the resistance, they were incarcerated several times.

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<v Speaker 1>The sisters were given the underground name Las Mariposas or

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<v Speaker 1>in English, the Butterflies. The movement planned to assassinate thru

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<v Speaker 1>Heio using a bomb at a cattle fair on January one,

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen sixty, but the plan was foiled when the Servicita,

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<v Speaker 1>or military intelligence service, rounded up supporters of the movement

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<v Speaker 1>the day before the assassination was supposed to happen. Trhio's

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<v Speaker 1>regime arrested and tortured people, brutality that many people rejected.

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<v Speaker 1>Me Not and Maria Teresa, their husbands, and Patria's husband

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<v Speaker 1>named Pedro Gonzalez, were jailed. The Catholic Church protested the

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<v Speaker 1>witchhood and denounced the dictatorship. But despite all the atrocities

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<v Speaker 1>through Hio had already been complicit in, it took Trujillo

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<v Speaker 1>attempting to assassinate Venezuelan President Romolo Betancourt before other nations

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<v Speaker 1>decided to draw the line. Beaton Court was vehemently anti Trujillo,

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<v Speaker 1>and Trullillo had tried to have him overthrown many times before. Regardless,

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<v Speaker 1>when through Hio's people put a bunch of dynamite in

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<v Speaker 1>a car that exploded and injured beaton court, and killed

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<v Speaker 1>a person. The Organization of American States condemned his regime's actions,

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<v Speaker 1>imposed sanctions, and sent representatives to Dominican jails on a

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<v Speaker 1>fact finding mission. Because of this investigation, many women prisoners

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<v Speaker 1>were freed, including the Meta Balls. Their husbands were sent

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<v Speaker 1>to a prison in Puerto Blata. Trujillo responded to his

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<v Speaker 1>growing opposition and his sworn enemies, the Meata Balls, with vengeance.

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<v Speaker 1>He made it clear that the Catholic Church and the

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<v Speaker 1>Meat of Ball Sisters were his main foes, problems that

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<v Speaker 1>he needed to get rid of. When it came to

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<v Speaker 1>the Meat of Ball sisters, that meant death. Friends of

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<v Speaker 1>the sisters warnant them not to visit their husbands in prison,

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<v Speaker 1>but even though they knew the visits were dangerous, they

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<v Speaker 1>had already made the trip to the north coast without

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<v Speaker 1>any problems. They had even decided that they were going

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<v Speaker 1>to rent a house in Puerto Plata so they could

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<v Speaker 1>be closer to their husbands. November nine sixty, Patria Maria

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<v Speaker 1>were leaving Plata after visiting their husbands in prison. As

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<v Speaker 1>they drove down a desolate road, some of Trujillo's agents

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<v Speaker 1>ordered their driver to stop. Patria was able to get

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<v Speaker 1>out of their jeep and tell a passing truck driver

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<v Speaker 1>that the agents were about to murder them, and told

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<v Speaker 1>him to send word to the meat of all family

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<v Speaker 1>in their hometown. But the agents beat the sisters and

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<v Speaker 1>their driver, strangled them and put them back in the jeep,

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<v Speaker 1>pushing it over a cliff to make it look like

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<v Speaker 1>an accident. Dede, who was the least politically engaged of

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<v Speaker 1>the four sisters and who had not been in the

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<v Speaker 1>car at the time of the assassination, was the only

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<v Speaker 1>surviving sister. It didn't take long for news of the

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<v Speaker 1>assassinations to spread. It was pretty obvious that the deaths

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<v Speaker 1>were not an accident but murder ordered by Trujillo. There

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<v Speaker 1>were reportedly still fingerprints on their necks where they had

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<v Speaker 1>been strangled when they were brought into a hospital for autopsy.

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<v Speaker 1>The assassinations intensified resistance in the Dominican Republic even more,

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<v Speaker 1>not the effect that Trujillo had intended. On May thirtieth nine,

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<v Speaker 1>Trujillo was ambushed as he was heading home and killed

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<v Speaker 1>some of the people who murdered him were part of

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<v Speaker 1>his armed forces. The assassins who killed the Meat of

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<v Speaker 1>All Sisters went to trial in nineteen sixty two. They

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<v Speaker 1>were sentenced to twenty to thirty years of heart labor,

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<v Speaker 1>but they did not serve out their sentences as they

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<v Speaker 1>had escaped from prison during the Dominican Civil War of

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen sixty five. Dada ensured the persistence of her sister's

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<v Speaker 1>legacy and helped raise their children. Minatava, Maria, Teresa, and

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<v Speaker 1>Patria died tragically under the thumb of a cruel dictatorship

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<v Speaker 1>that they risked their lives to subvert. They mobilized women

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<v Speaker 1>to join the resistance movement. They injected a sense of

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<v Speaker 1>hope for social and political progress into the Dominican people,

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<v Speaker 1>though the rule that followed their deaths was nowhere near revolutionary.

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<v Speaker 1>But the Meat of Ball Sisters stand as a model

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<v Speaker 1>for middle and upper class young folks who wished to

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<v Speaker 1>reject silence and complacency in favor of action and optimistic

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<v Speaker 1>resistance when rebellion is necessary. The Meat Up Ball Sisters

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<v Speaker 1>weren't the only people who took part in the fourteenth

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<v Speaker 1>of June movement or the resistance against through Heeo's dictatorship.

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<v Speaker 1>Though they played a major role in the road towards

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<v Speaker 1>through Heeo's downfall, it wasn't their actions alone that put

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<v Speaker 1>an end to the oppressive regime. I don't say that

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<v Speaker 1>to diminish the importance of their leadership and movement work.

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<v Speaker 1>I just like to acknowledge the huge amount of work

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<v Speaker 1>and people it takes to transform our tear down massive establishments.

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<v Speaker 1>But one person's actions can have a rebel effect. It

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<v Speaker 1>is definitely easy to just accept things as they are

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of the time. That's the case when issues

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<v Speaker 1>don't directly affect us, or when they do directly benefit us.

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<v Speaker 1>When we don't have enough knowledge of an issue or

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<v Speaker 1>have not taken the time to research it and are

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<v Speaker 1>not emotionally affected by it. When the prospect of harsh

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<v Speaker 1>punishment seems too scary, when we don't know what the

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<v Speaker 1>outcome of a challenge would be so we don't want

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<v Speaker 1>to risk putting in the work. When something seems so

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<v Speaker 1>impossible to change that it doesn't seem worth putting any

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<v Speaker 1>effort into it. The meat of All Sisters and all

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<v Speaker 1>the other Dominicans who resisted the regime were up against

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<v Speaker 1>a dictatorship that stripped away civil liberties and killed people ruthlessly,

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<v Speaker 1>and that did so while exalting itself. They could not

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<v Speaker 1>and did not accept the way things were, even though

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<v Speaker 1>the terrorism that surrounded them was a constant reminder of

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<v Speaker 1>the horrible consequences their actions could have. Tria was in

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<v Speaker 1>power for thirty one years, and those years were characterized

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<v Speaker 1>by a lot of violence and death. The Meat of

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<v Speaker 1>All Sisters activism not only ignited and effective movement, but

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<v Speaker 1>also showed that a life without violence was within the

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<v Speaker 1>realm of possibility and influenced later activists to strive for liberation.

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<v Speaker 1>They helped make the other side conceivable. Thanks again for listening.

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