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Speaker 1: Rob Phillips, I'm Kyle Yeoman's. Everybody's in a good mood

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Speaker 1: this morning. I love this. Hey. Yeah, even though we

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Speaker 1: So I'm happy. Usually that's a pre show discussion. We

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Speaker 1: just shouldn't hear it. Yeah, just getting a sample. No,

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Speaker 1: that's good. Yeah, so many things in the breaking, so

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Speaker 1: and this is that's the fun thing about this show

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Speaker 1: is I feel like we all get along like legitimately,

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Speaker 1: game ready. Are you getting pro Shop modeling deals too?

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Speaker 1: So let's not kick the cans too far down the road.

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Speaker 1: With Nickma's fantastic looks um the pole. I don't want

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Speaker 1: to hear the poll right freaking free, because I want

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Speaker 1: to talk about a problem the Cowboys nation is having. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: we're all in a great mood this morning, and I

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Speaker 1: don't need to brag it drag it down any but

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Speaker 1: the Cowboys have lost to Marcus Lawrence for an extended

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Speaker 1: period of time. He suffered a broken foot in yesterday's practice,

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Speaker 1: and the edge rusher, former pro bowler, top end edge

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Speaker 1: rusher in the NFL, is now sidelined. Rob What it was,

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Speaker 1: some of the developments on this, and what does the

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Speaker 1: timeline look like at the moment. The report, I think

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Speaker 1: heck reminded me of that before the show, if that's correct.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if it's the exact same thing as

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Speaker 1: twenty fourteen, but it is a similar type of injury

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Speaker 1: from my understanding from his rookie year, right, Yes, And

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Speaker 1: so when that happened, it was like July twenty ninth

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Speaker 1: the moment. We'll get into some of the rest of

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Speaker 1: that here in a minute, But just how big of

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Speaker 1: a loss is this, Isaiah? I mean, I don't know

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Speaker 1: if it could be understated, especially whenever we spent yesterday

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Speaker 1: It seems like our first game was forever ago, and

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Speaker 1: it is, We don't know what they're going to require.

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Speaker 1: I'm probably in his little canoe or kayak by myself.

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Speaker 1: When I when I when I stand by behind the

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Speaker 1: d Law's pass rushing ability. I don't want to make

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Speaker 1: And I understand that I'm a lone ranger. I'm a

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Speaker 1: Have the tattoo on my back shoulder. U. D Law,

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Speaker 1: has not been productive in terms of pressure. Sure, Okay,

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Speaker 1: end and what a defensive ends supposed to do. They're

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Speaker 1: I do believe that can be duplicated. Now, how much

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Speaker 1: the tackle. Sometimes he got there, sometimes he didn't. Right,

425
00:21:48,040 --> 00:21:49,920
Speaker 1: And when those guys started trying to overset him, what

426
00:21:50,000 --> 00:21:52,359
Speaker 1: did he do? He spent back on the inside And

427
00:21:52,440 --> 00:21:54,239
Speaker 1: what were those guys there to do? Gibson was there

428
00:21:54,280 --> 00:21:56,399
Speaker 1: to bust him in his dog on mouth right, So

429
00:21:56,720 --> 00:21:58,840
Speaker 1: you have to be ready to be physical with this

430
00:21:58,960 --> 00:22:01,560
Speaker 1: dude and know that he has a motor. He's like

431
00:22:01,680 --> 00:22:04,400
Speaker 1: the new Age better at Clay Matthews. He just doesn't stop.

432
00:22:04,440 --> 00:22:06,360
Speaker 1: He's like the energizer Bunny. He's just gonna keep coming.

433
00:22:06,480 --> 00:22:08,080
Speaker 1: You get him in his mouth, he's gonna get back

434
00:22:08,160 --> 00:22:10,120
Speaker 1: up right, and just know that that's what you're dealing

435
00:22:10,200 --> 00:22:12,639
Speaker 1: with all game and take the right approach, but know

436
00:22:12,800 --> 00:22:15,119
Speaker 1: that you have to outphysical him because you're not going

437
00:22:15,160 --> 00:22:18,000
Speaker 1: to out effort him. Yeah, and adding details to that, man,

438
00:22:18,280 --> 00:22:20,480
Speaker 1: I just feel as though bubble screens in a situation

439
00:22:20,640 --> 00:22:23,439
Speaker 1: like this on his side, and also running right at him,

440
00:22:23,560 --> 00:22:25,560
Speaker 1: you know, run at him, make him work for it,

441
00:22:25,680 --> 00:22:27,639
Speaker 1: like you're talking about, because both is one of those

442
00:22:27,680 --> 00:22:29,919
Speaker 1: guys on the slow developing run play. He'll get up

443
00:22:29,960 --> 00:22:31,879
Speaker 1: the field, but he'll come right back down. He has

444
00:22:31,960 --> 00:22:34,280
Speaker 1: that same attribute that Tank has as well, so we

445
00:22:34,400 --> 00:22:36,800
Speaker 1: have to watch out for that in his motor. Terrence

446
00:22:36,840 --> 00:22:39,920
Speaker 1: still scares me out there on an island because you

447
00:22:40,000 --> 00:22:43,200
Speaker 1: can't relegate your entire offense to help him the entire game,

448
00:22:43,480 --> 00:22:47,240
Speaker 1: so he's gonna have to win some individual matchups. The

449
00:22:47,359 --> 00:22:50,920
Speaker 1: wide nine worries me also because still had problems with

450
00:22:51,000 --> 00:22:54,200
Speaker 1: the wide nine with Garrett, you know it against Cleveland,

451
00:22:54,440 --> 00:22:56,760
Speaker 1: and so it's it's just one of those things for

452
00:22:56,840 --> 00:22:59,240
Speaker 1: a young guy that we're developing. He's man, he's got

453
00:22:59,320 --> 00:23:01,760
Speaker 1: to win that match up, and especially if this coaching

454
00:23:01,840 --> 00:23:03,800
Speaker 1: staff has that kind of confidence in him, he's got

455
00:23:03,880 --> 00:23:05,800
Speaker 1: to reward him in his play. Dude's got a first

456
00:23:05,840 --> 00:23:08,560
Speaker 1: step like DeMarcus Ware. He really does where you know

457
00:23:08,680 --> 00:23:11,000
Speaker 1: it's so it's so fast you almost think it's a penalty.

458
00:23:11,040 --> 00:23:13,959
Speaker 1: You almost think he's encroaching, and you know you're right.

459
00:23:14,119 --> 00:23:18,679
Speaker 1: Like the Washington didn't ship every time. I mean, they

460
00:23:19,040 --> 00:23:20,760
Speaker 1: there are snaps where you've just got to let them

461
00:23:20,800 --> 00:23:24,080
Speaker 1: try to handle it. And you you mentioned the wide

462
00:23:24,200 --> 00:23:27,679
Speaker 1: nine the run game. I still think watching watching their

463
00:23:27,960 --> 00:23:31,200
Speaker 1: their defense, there's gonna be some opportunities just because there's

464
00:23:31,200 --> 00:23:33,600
Speaker 1: some gaps in their life. Now maybe they shore that up,

465
00:23:33,640 --> 00:23:36,359
Speaker 1: but there's some gaps. And especially sometimes they'll blitz and

466
00:23:36,480 --> 00:23:38,800
Speaker 1: Washington would catch him in a draw, hand it off

467
00:23:38,840 --> 00:23:41,880
Speaker 1: and and yeah, and try to throw him off that way.

468
00:23:42,200 --> 00:23:44,200
Speaker 1: You would hope they get Zeke more involved in this game,

469
00:23:44,280 --> 00:23:47,400
Speaker 1: but he might be busy in pass protection. Again, it's

470
00:23:47,480 --> 00:23:50,280
Speaker 1: It's possible, you know he was. He was asked yesterday, like,

471
00:23:50,320 --> 00:23:51,840
Speaker 1: so you feel fresh because you didn't get a lot

472
00:23:51,880 --> 00:23:53,359
Speaker 1: of get a lot of touches in week one. He's like,

473
00:23:53,400 --> 00:23:56,160
Speaker 1: did I was out there quite a bit, like taking

474
00:23:56,240 --> 00:23:58,520
Speaker 1: on taking on the best D line in the league.

475
00:23:58,960 --> 00:24:01,560
Speaker 1: He probably felt like he was less fresh after that

476
00:24:01,680 --> 00:24:04,360
Speaker 1: game than if you would have run for twenty five carries. Yeah,

477
00:24:04,680 --> 00:24:06,680
Speaker 1: I'm so again. I probably on this kay at a

478
00:24:06,680 --> 00:24:09,120
Speaker 1: little boat. By myself, I'm definitely worried about Bosa. I'm

479
00:24:09,200 --> 00:24:13,080
Speaker 1: not asked concerned with Bosa taking over this game as

480
00:24:13,160 --> 00:24:17,400
Speaker 1: I am concerned with Bosa and his boy, Kenneth Murray.

481
00:24:18,080 --> 00:24:20,760
Speaker 1: That combination. That combination scares a crap out of me.

482
00:24:21,240 --> 00:24:24,040
Speaker 1: Bosa by himself, we can scheme a defensive end, right,

483
00:24:24,240 --> 00:24:26,200
Speaker 1: one person on the edge is not going to just

484
00:24:26,400 --> 00:24:29,160
Speaker 1: destroy this game. He may get a sack, Right, most

485
00:24:29,200 --> 00:24:30,600
Speaker 1: of the time, we should be half him in check,

486
00:24:30,640 --> 00:24:33,040
Speaker 1: based upon chips, based upon our tight end sets, or

487
00:24:33,080 --> 00:24:34,879
Speaker 1: you know, all the different formations that we have cracked

488
00:24:34,920 --> 00:24:37,480
Speaker 1: backing on. We should we can throw off a defensive end. Now,

489
00:24:37,560 --> 00:24:41,240
Speaker 1: when they start running stunts with him and he crosses across,

490
00:24:41,359 --> 00:24:43,520
Speaker 1: you know, Zach Martin's facing and you bring me Matthews

491
00:24:43,560 --> 00:24:46,880
Speaker 1: on the outside and now he's going against Steel. He yeah,

492
00:24:47,240 --> 00:24:49,800
Speaker 1: that's when I have That's when I worry. Yeah, in

493
00:24:50,080 --> 00:24:53,320
Speaker 1: the running game and even looking at saying it stop

494
00:24:53,359 --> 00:24:56,639
Speaker 1: myself to Chargers, Uh, you know that I think that

495
00:24:56,760 --> 00:24:59,159
Speaker 1: we have some opportunity in the running game with what

496
00:24:59,400 --> 00:25:01,560
Speaker 1: Rob just pick. Backing off of what you said, especially

497
00:25:01,600 --> 00:25:05,440
Speaker 1: with their wide spit splits. Ronaldo Hill, their defensive coordinator

498
00:25:05,520 --> 00:25:08,080
Speaker 1: tenuere Vet in the league. Man is just a great

499
00:25:08,160 --> 00:25:12,920
Speaker 1: cornerback and I feel like he's bringing fresh energy to

500
00:25:13,119 --> 00:25:16,080
Speaker 1: this defense and just allowing his guys up front to

501
00:25:16,280 --> 00:25:19,480
Speaker 1: be who they are. Lyndelle Joseph, Let's look at this

502
00:25:19,640 --> 00:25:23,520
Speaker 1: matchup because he's a dog, yeah, and he's a guy,

503
00:25:23,760 --> 00:25:26,280
Speaker 1: and especially with the matchup that we had last week

504
00:25:26,359 --> 00:25:30,200
Speaker 1: with be honest, he sometimes had He's susceptible to the bullrush.

505
00:25:30,280 --> 00:25:32,680
Speaker 1: He may get set in the lap of Dak. Sodak

506
00:25:32,840 --> 00:25:36,000
Speaker 1: is gonna have to be cognizant obviously of all the

507
00:25:36,040 --> 00:25:38,040
Speaker 1: pressure that's coming this way. He would be anyway, but

508
00:25:38,240 --> 00:25:40,960
Speaker 1: especially now with tern Steel and all the pressure, because

509
00:25:41,000 --> 00:25:43,119
Speaker 1: you know, if they get any type of push up front,

510
00:25:43,400 --> 00:25:46,800
Speaker 1: that's gonna draw him out and make him easier to

511
00:25:46,920 --> 00:25:50,280
Speaker 1: get Tom from the outside. I agree completely, and that

512
00:25:50,480 --> 00:25:55,600
Speaker 1: that interior rush against Washington was was decent. It wasn't overpairing,

513
00:25:55,720 --> 00:25:58,840
Speaker 1: which is positive news I think for for Cowboys fans

514
00:25:58,880 --> 00:26:02,480
Speaker 1: looking into it. Some of that is Bosa creating that

515
00:26:02,760 --> 00:26:05,120
Speaker 1: by collapsing the pocket and then you see Justin Jones

516
00:26:05,200 --> 00:26:07,080
Speaker 1: being able to get home a little bit. So it

517
00:26:07,480 --> 00:26:09,760
Speaker 1: kind of all starts with Bosa. But real quick, I

518
00:26:09,800 --> 00:26:11,520
Speaker 1: mean they're they're kind of banged up on their injury

519
00:26:11,560 --> 00:26:14,840
Speaker 1: report at least for Wednesday. I mean, we'll see Derwin

520
00:26:14,960 --> 00:26:19,040
Speaker 1: James did not practice Chris Harris in the secondary natterly

521
00:26:19,200 --> 00:26:22,560
Speaker 1: their safety. So we talked about that. Yeah, see how

522
00:26:22,600 --> 00:26:25,080
Speaker 1: the week progresses. But I mean, Derwin James missed a

523
00:26:25,119 --> 00:26:28,720
Speaker 1: lot of time. That's Darren Woodson's pick, right, Yeah, yeah,

524
00:26:28,720 --> 00:26:30,800
Speaker 1: that was. It gave me chills. It really gave me

525
00:26:30,920 --> 00:26:33,240
Speaker 1: chills when and when Woody said that, because I think

526
00:26:33,320 --> 00:26:37,160
Speaker 1: as as far as the comparison between him and this guy,

527
00:26:37,280 --> 00:26:39,679
Speaker 1: I just think that, you know, he is so smart,

528
00:26:39,760 --> 00:26:41,800
Speaker 1: and he's so good in space, all the things that

529
00:26:41,880 --> 00:26:44,040
Speaker 1: Woody was, and so when you watch him on take thirty,

530
00:26:44,119 --> 00:26:47,000
Speaker 1: it just screams like whole much, jumps off like this guy.

531
00:26:47,080 --> 00:26:49,760
Speaker 1: Look how fast he's moving, and just his ability to

532
00:26:49,760 --> 00:26:51,520
Speaker 1: attack to the line of scrimmage and also what he

533
00:26:51,600 --> 00:26:54,760
Speaker 1: does in pass coverage, so he's in on every tackle. Versatility,

534
00:26:54,840 --> 00:26:56,919
Speaker 1: He's always around, always around the ball. I don't care

535
00:26:56,920 --> 00:26:58,800
Speaker 1: if the balls already the guy's already been tackled. He's

536
00:26:58,840 --> 00:27:01,240
Speaker 1: flying in there. He'll take his long. He's getting his

537
00:27:01,359 --> 00:27:03,800
Speaker 1: number on screen, it's on film now. We had a

538
00:27:03,880 --> 00:27:07,160
Speaker 1: question throughout the week from Big Jay and he said

539
00:27:07,240 --> 00:27:09,800
Speaker 1: a question for the show. With Washington rushing for over

540
00:27:09,840 --> 00:27:12,000
Speaker 1: one hundred yards last week, do you think that's the

541
00:27:12,160 --> 00:27:15,120
Speaker 1: key to this game for the Cowboys. Maybe they trust

542
00:27:15,160 --> 00:27:18,359
Speaker 1: steal a tackle because they're going to focus on establishing

543
00:27:18,480 --> 00:27:22,080
Speaker 1: the run more, especially knowing that we obviously can't throw

544
00:27:22,760 --> 00:27:26,440
Speaker 1: at any given moment with the pressure coming off the edge.

545
00:27:26,480 --> 00:27:28,440
Speaker 1: So that's my question to you guys, is do you

546
00:27:28,520 --> 00:27:31,800
Speaker 1: see an added emphasis And sure, I'm sure, I'm sure

547
00:27:31,840 --> 00:27:33,600
Speaker 1: the carriers are going to go up from last week.

548
00:27:33,760 --> 00:27:35,720
Speaker 1: We're not going to see eleven carries for Zeke again,

549
00:27:36,000 --> 00:27:37,639
Speaker 1: but are you going to see an added emphasis and

550
00:27:37,760 --> 00:27:40,760
Speaker 1: trying to establish that run early? I Hope. So, I

551
00:27:40,800 --> 00:27:42,600
Speaker 1: mean we should as the Dallas Cowboys, we should we

552
00:27:42,640 --> 00:27:45,560
Speaker 1: should be running over one hundred yards every game, not

553
00:27:45,720 --> 00:27:48,440
Speaker 1: even a question. But those two guys with our just

554
00:27:48,560 --> 00:27:51,040
Speaker 1: our whole offense in general, I mean, there's no reason

555
00:27:51,080 --> 00:27:52,639
Speaker 1: why we shouldn't. If if we don't run for one

556
00:27:52,680 --> 00:27:54,520
Speaker 1: hundred yard, if Zeke doesn't get close to one hundred

557
00:27:54,560 --> 00:27:57,680
Speaker 1: yards or over one hundred yards, then Kelly Moore, you

558
00:27:57,760 --> 00:27:59,520
Speaker 1: need to go look in the mirror because there's ways

559
00:27:59,560 --> 00:28:00,920
Speaker 1: that you can get him the ball. Now, whether that's

560
00:28:00,960 --> 00:28:03,040
Speaker 1: on the ground, whether that's receiving, he should be over

561
00:28:03,040 --> 00:28:05,199
Speaker 1: one hundred yards easy every game. I don't care who

562
00:28:05,280 --> 00:28:07,800
Speaker 1: you're playing, just based off of your ability to scheme

563
00:28:07,840 --> 00:28:11,320
Speaker 1: with all the personnel that we have against these guys. Absolutely,

564
00:28:11,359 --> 00:28:15,120
Speaker 1: we have to control the game. We have to because offensively,

565
00:28:15,800 --> 00:28:18,879
Speaker 1: the Chargers are going to control the clock. That's what

566
00:28:19,040 --> 00:28:21,920
Speaker 1: they do. As many big you know, we talked about it, Kyle,

567
00:28:22,040 --> 00:28:23,800
Speaker 1: you and I, as many deep threats as they have,

568
00:28:24,359 --> 00:28:26,879
Speaker 1: they don't hutilize them joints man as much as you

569
00:28:26,920 --> 00:28:30,159
Speaker 1: would think. Those guys want to move the chains right.

570
00:28:30,200 --> 00:28:32,480
Speaker 1: They're officer of coordinators from Seattle. He's a West Coast dude.

571
00:28:32,480 --> 00:28:34,960
Speaker 1: So what's he running West Coast offense? That dude is

572
00:28:35,040 --> 00:28:37,760
Speaker 1: dncon duncan dncan dunk, dncon dunk, dncan dunk. Move the

573
00:28:37,840 --> 00:28:39,320
Speaker 1: chains and as soon as he lulls you to sleep,

574
00:28:39,520 --> 00:28:41,480
Speaker 1: then he's gonna take a shot. Right. So these guys

575
00:28:41,600 --> 00:28:45,000
Speaker 1: gonna have eight, ten, twelve, twelve plays sustained drives. So

576
00:28:45,240 --> 00:28:46,760
Speaker 1: when we get the ball on offense, guess what we

577
00:28:46,840 --> 00:28:49,160
Speaker 1: need to do. We need to have some sustained drives

578
00:28:49,240 --> 00:28:53,040
Speaker 1: because our defense is gonna be dog tired Chargers. But

579
00:28:53,080 --> 00:28:55,920
Speaker 1: by the way, in terms of time of possession last week,

580
00:28:56,000 --> 00:28:59,360
Speaker 1: thirty six to twenty four, they won that. That's pretty nuts.

581
00:28:59,440 --> 00:29:02,800
Speaker 1: That's a lee lopsided time of possession battle for all

582
00:29:03,000 --> 00:29:05,160
Speaker 1: or excuse me, for an NFL game. It would be

583
00:29:05,240 --> 00:29:08,080
Speaker 1: for a college game too, And either way, yeah, I

584
00:29:08,080 --> 00:29:11,120
Speaker 1: mean that's just showing their balance. Showing their balance. Uh,

585
00:29:11,440 --> 00:29:13,560
Speaker 1: it does the Chargers. But you know, when I look

586
00:29:13,560 --> 00:29:15,600
Speaker 1: at this matchup, you look at two former Rookies of

587
00:29:15,680 --> 00:29:18,959
Speaker 1: the Year, and you know, for for Dak, it's got

588
00:29:19,080 --> 00:29:21,360
Speaker 1: to be you know, monop just like it was last

589
00:29:21,400 --> 00:29:24,400
Speaker 1: week Tom versus Dak, Dak versus Herbert, you know, and

590
00:29:24,520 --> 00:29:26,600
Speaker 1: so This is a situation where both of these guys,

591
00:29:26,640 --> 00:29:29,000
Speaker 1: if you look at them, statistically, they throw the ball

592
00:29:29,120 --> 00:29:31,320
Speaker 1: more than any quarterback in the league. So I think

593
00:29:31,680 --> 00:29:34,320
Speaker 1: we want to talk about establishing the run. But once

594
00:29:34,400 --> 00:29:36,960
Speaker 1: Kellen Moore showed you exactly who he is, believe him,

595
00:29:37,040 --> 00:29:39,280
Speaker 1: that's who he is, He's gonna throw the ball. So

596
00:29:39,480 --> 00:29:43,400
Speaker 1: I think though I'm saying, I mean, I think, I

597
00:29:43,520 --> 00:29:46,960
Speaker 1: think it sounds good in theory, but what happens once

598
00:29:47,120 --> 00:29:49,160
Speaker 1: you know the game plan and they start showing you

599
00:29:49,280 --> 00:29:51,840
Speaker 1: certain things. Look, there are certain things about their secondary

600
00:29:51,920 --> 00:29:54,479
Speaker 1: that sticks out like an eyesore. They have some rookies

601
00:29:54,560 --> 00:29:56,920
Speaker 1: back there that I think we could possibly try and

602
00:29:56,960 --> 00:30:01,000
Speaker 1: attack with our veteran veteran veteran wide receive group, you know,

603
00:30:01,200 --> 00:30:03,960
Speaker 1: and so you know, they're not as ironclad as the

604
00:30:04,040 --> 00:30:07,000
Speaker 1: guys that we went against before, so I still expect

605
00:30:07,080 --> 00:30:09,440
Speaker 1: to shootout. They got some vets back there too. Yeah,

606
00:30:09,560 --> 00:30:14,600
Speaker 1: Chris Harris is a good player. Michael Davis Sunday, Samuel

607
00:30:14,600 --> 00:30:17,320
Speaker 1: played well in that first kid playing on the outside.

608
00:30:17,360 --> 00:30:19,719
Speaker 1: It looked like so yeah, but you're right, I mean,

609
00:30:19,800 --> 00:30:23,200
Speaker 1: they're every week the Cowboys have favorable matchups on the outside.

610
00:30:24,080 --> 00:30:28,120
Speaker 1: It's their personnel. But I'm with heck, like I think

611
00:30:28,360 --> 00:30:31,040
Speaker 1: Zeke's gonna be more involved. I mean, I'd be surprised

612
00:30:31,040 --> 00:30:33,320
Speaker 1: to your point if it's as few carrious as this.

613
00:30:33,400 --> 00:30:35,800
Speaker 1: But if if the Chargers sell out and say we're

614
00:30:35,840 --> 00:30:38,760
Speaker 1: just we're not letting him run, then you have to adjust.

615
00:30:38,880 --> 00:30:40,840
Speaker 1: And that Kellen Moore said it this week, like, I

616
00:30:40,920 --> 00:30:43,120
Speaker 1: don't care, it's just we gotta get the yards of

617
00:30:43,160 --> 00:30:45,240
Speaker 1: the points however it comes. And Zeke doesn't seem to

618
00:30:45,240 --> 00:30:47,640
Speaker 1: have a problem with that, so we'll see. They got

619
00:30:47,760 --> 00:30:50,320
Speaker 1: to get him more involved somehow. Yeah, whether it's screens,

620
00:30:50,360 --> 00:30:52,840
Speaker 1: whether it's something, let him feel the game a little bit,

621
00:30:52,880 --> 00:30:55,000
Speaker 1: get a rhythm, and and that's that's my point, right,

622
00:30:55,080 --> 00:30:58,320
Speaker 1: even if I do foresee the Charger stacking the box,

623
00:30:58,680 --> 00:31:01,000
Speaker 1: because that that number thirty three Derwin James, he is

624
00:31:01,040 --> 00:31:03,000
Speaker 1: gonna fight, He's gonna have a presence, he's gonna let

625
00:31:03,120 --> 00:31:05,600
Speaker 1: Zeke know, Hey, I'm here all game long. You have

626
00:31:05,680 --> 00:31:06,840
Speaker 1: to deal with me. So what do we have to do.

627
00:31:06,920 --> 00:31:08,720
Speaker 1: We have to win on the outside, Right, we're missing

628
00:31:08,760 --> 00:31:11,280
Speaker 1: one of our go boys, right, We're missing Gallup, so

629
00:31:11,400 --> 00:31:13,640
Speaker 1: we don't have the juice on both ends, like we like,

630
00:31:13,720 --> 00:31:16,240
Speaker 1: we typically do. Now, obviously we still got CD, don't know,

631
00:31:16,440 --> 00:31:19,520
Speaker 1: and y'all chill out, okay, got CD? Okay, all right,

632
00:31:19,600 --> 00:31:21,640
Speaker 1: But CD does not have the speed of Gallup. Let's

633
00:31:21,720 --> 00:31:24,040
Speaker 1: let's not let's not even and the big playability is

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Speaker 1: Power ranking for Week two of the NFL season, and

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Speaker 1: both of the quarterbacks in this matchup are up there.

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Speaker 1: And this is kind of it stuck out to me

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Speaker 1: Then it's Dak Prescott and Justin Herbert five and six,

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Speaker 1: touching tags right up in there. I mean, if you

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Speaker 1: I don't know if I would agree with that specifically.

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Speaker 1: I've got to look at the rest of the games

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Speaker 1: in terms of how high both of those guys are.

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Speaker 1: But man, I mean that's a matchup we haven't really

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Speaker 1: talked about because Dak Prescott's gonna have to throw the

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Speaker 1: ball a little bit more to this week, Kacma and

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Speaker 1: throw the ball more, not more, but throw the ball more,

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Speaker 1: but more, not more than last week. Just he has

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Speaker 1: to do it again. Well, let's see it. I mean,

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Speaker 1: let's see And I was talking about the average for

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Speaker 1: both of these quarterbacks before we went to break, and

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Speaker 1: I'm just telling you that this guy stole the ball

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Speaker 1: around a lot. And as much as we are as

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Speaker 1: a as a base wanting to see Zeke become more involved,

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Speaker 1: I think if this game is even close, it turns

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Speaker 1: into a shootout. Do you see any similarities, Isaiah, when

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Speaker 1: you look at Dak Prescott and Justin Herbert anything into

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Speaker 1: I think offensively, you can see similarities between kelln moore

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Speaker 1: scheme and the Chargers and what they run, not as

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Speaker 1: West Coastie, but keeping it underneath, they're similarities though similarities Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's not the same exact thing. I don't see a

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Speaker 1: whole lot of similarities between the two of them, aside

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Speaker 1: from their ability to make, you know, be good decision makers. Okay,

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Speaker 1: I think, I mean, I think they do it. They

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Speaker 1: both do a good job of that. They don't put

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Speaker 1: their teams in bad situations. I think there's some other

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Speaker 1: quarterbacks as you look through the league who are risk takers.

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Speaker 1: I don't think either one of these guys are risk takers.

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Speaker 1: Not yet. I mean, so I got to go off.

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Speaker 1: They're both big quarterbacks who maybe deceptive Lea can buy

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Speaker 1: more time than you would think. Roethlisberger has been like

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Speaker 1: that over his career. I'd say both are kind of

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Speaker 1: in that category. I mean, they don't use Herbert like.

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Speaker 1: We'll see how much Dak does in the in the

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Speaker 1: RPO type stuff as we go here. But I don't,

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Speaker 1: I think being able to extend time in the pocket.

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Speaker 1: They both can do that, and they both can make

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Speaker 1: pretty much any throw you need to make need him

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Speaker 1: to make compared to the last go for it. I'm

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Speaker 1: just saying, justin Herbert is not afraid to create with

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Speaker 1: get out on you. And you know it, Tom wasn't

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Speaker 1: so I think the defense is definitely gonna have to

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Speaker 1: the perfect mix of a pocket passer who and be

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Speaker 1: which is I think that's a great combination. I was

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Speaker 1: going to ask you this, Rob, compared to last week's

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Speaker 1: Bay secondary, do you feel much better about this matchup

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Speaker 1: or do you feel worse about the matchup with the secondary? Um?

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Speaker 1: I actually think the Chargers secondary might be a little

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Speaker 1: more challenging. I think so too then than Tampa Bay.

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Speaker 1: If there's if Tampa's got a weakness moving forward, it's

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Speaker 1: it's their depth back there. Um. I still think there's

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Speaker 1: opportunities there, and I think where it helps the Cowboys

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Speaker 1: again is their ability maybe to be a little bit

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Speaker 1: more balanced with opportunities in the run game. That can

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Speaker 1: only help Dak maybe get the play action going a

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Speaker 1: little bit. Um. But yeah, I think so. I think

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Speaker 1: it's a better matchup Isaiah or tough matchup. Yeah, I agree.

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Speaker 1: I mean Tampa didn't have a what we would consider

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Speaker 1: every every team has good players. But when as you

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Speaker 1: That boy is around, obviously, we just talked about it

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Speaker 1: he you have to find him. It's kind of like

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Speaker 1: you need. I think there as you play as a Chargers,

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Speaker 1: I think there's there's at all three levels. There's a

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Speaker 1: you need to find Murray, you need to find James.

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Speaker 1: You better know where to heck those guys are. That's

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Speaker 1: a great point. That's hard to do offensively. I'm saying

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Speaker 1: lit Coop be coop. You know, let him, let him

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Speaker 1: what I felt comfortable about last week was DA's ability

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Speaker 1: Coop be coop and find the big playability this week

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Speaker 1: is going to be there for the Cowboys. But the

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Speaker 1: red zone issues, but we should we should be running

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Speaker 1: but if they tend, if they want to run that,

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Speaker 1: be able to run the ball down there all day long. Yeah,

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