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Speaker 1: Third hour of play and Buck kicks off right now.

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Speaker 1: At the bottom of the hour, We've got the President

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Speaker 1: in the meantime, Speaker of the House, Speaker Johnson is

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Speaker 1: with us now. Mister Speaker, appreciate you making the time

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Speaker 1: we can discuss some shutdown and other issues.

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Speaker 2: Buck. Great to be with you. I look forward to

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Speaker 2: that interview. That's timely stuff with Taiwan. We watch it

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Speaker 2: very closely, so I'm glad you got to go over

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Speaker 2: there and see it firsthand.

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Speaker 3: Thank you.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, please do listen in He had a I asked him,

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Speaker 1: I said, what's your message directly to President Trump? People

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Speaker 1: should know that we don't have an embassy there, we

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Speaker 1: So getting the word around, I think is really important

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Speaker 1: because things are heating up with China. But in the meantime,

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Speaker 1: mister Speaker, just bring us up to the latest here

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Speaker 1: on are we calling it the Schumer shutdown? I am,

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Speaker 1: but what's the latest on this government shutdown? What's happening?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I wish there were more developments to report that

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Speaker 2: we're stuck at a stalemate. It is the Schumer Democrat shutdown.

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Speaker 2: And I did a little press conference this morning, just

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Speaker 2: trying to lay out, once again reiterating the simple truths.

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Speaker 2: I mean, the truth has been obscured by all these Democrats.

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Speaker 2: There are relentless efforts at spinning what everybody knows to

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Speaker 2: be true. I mean, look, this is a clean, continuing resolution,

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Speaker 2: and what we mean by that is there's no part

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Speaker 2: simply trying to keep the lights on because as we

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Speaker 2: were going through the appropriations process, we ran out of

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Speaker 2: thirtieth and not the end of the calendar year at

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Speaker 2: December thirty one. So we needed more time. And Chuch

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Speaker 2: Schumer's always been a champion of the RS. He never

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Speaker 2: wanted to shut down the government because he knows how

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Speaker 2: dangerous it is. And I mean, but roll the tape.

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Speaker 2: I mean, he gave the most impassioned speeches on this

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Speaker 2: point out to everybody. It is very simple. It comes

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Speaker 1: All right, Well, so let's there's the politics of this

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Speaker 1: for Schumer, which because I want to talk about.

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Speaker 3: The healthcare piece too.

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Speaker 1: But your friend on the Republican side of the Senate,

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Speaker 1: Senator Cruz brought this up that there is some specific

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Speaker 1: political calculation here for Chuck Schumer. Can you just elucidate

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Speaker 2: I'll elaborate as briefly as I can, because it's pretty simple. Look,

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Speaker 2: Chuck Schumer is a far left progressive politician. Everybody knows

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Speaker 2: that he's been in Congress for forty four years. Brother,

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Speaker 2: about most of our lives, right, he's been serving here.

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Speaker 3: But it's actually longer than I've been alive, mister speaker.

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Speaker 4: But yeah, hey, there you go, all right, Yeah, I

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Speaker 4: a little credit here, but look, all of your life

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Speaker 4: he's been here, Okay, But he is yesterday's news.

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Speaker 2: He's the last generation of leadership. He's seventy four years

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Speaker 2: the problem. Chuck Schumer has plain and simple. The Marxists

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Speaker 2: trying to argue that this is suddenly a debate about healthcare.

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Speaker 2: Never was. This is about simple funding, a simple funding measure.

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Speaker 1: Now we've got that political piece of this can you

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Speaker 2: Thank you. There's a couple of very important facts that

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Speaker 2: We know that. Go back to rerund to twenty twenty,

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Speaker 2: that nonsense. We took the health care benefits away from illegals.

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Speaker 2: Go look at Chuck Chimber's document that he filed in

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Speaker 1: Now, can you just explain this we're speaking to Speaker

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Speaker 2: Well, there's a number of ways that's done, and it's

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Speaker 2: in a simple chart. Okay, the Democrat continuing Resolution Chuck

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Speaker 2: Schumer's gambit here would spend nearly two hundred billion dollars

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Speaker 2: there's six specific ways they do it. We reverse them

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Speaker 1: And yet here we are. What are we six days

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Speaker 1: into this shutdown? Seven to six days something like that?

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Speaker 3: What is yours? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: What is your sense, mister speaker for where this is going?

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Speaker 1: And also can you speak to mister speaker the possibility

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Speaker 2: Well, there's two good and important questions I think with

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Speaker 2: So we'll see it goes probably at least another week.

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Speaker 1: Mister speaker, hold on a sec did did you did

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Speaker 3: Yes it is? There we go crystal clear, keep going.

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Speaker 2: We're in this situation and it's causing real pain to

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Speaker 1: Welcome back in to Clay and Buck. So that's a

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Speaker 1: But I think that for anybody who believes, well, it's

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Speaker 1: But this is a critical, critical series of issues that

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Speaker 5: Is this not the case in a lot of American cities.

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Speaker 5: And it's inspiring to tell Americans about how the Taiwanese

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Speaker 6: First of all, I'm very glad that you have seen

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Speaker 6: In the international community, Taiwan is often lauded its being

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Speaker 6: The second pillar was enhancing our economic resilience. In twenty ten,

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Speaker 6: eighty three point eight percent of Taiwan's outbound investments went

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Speaker 6: to China, but last year this number was only seven percent.

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Speaker 6: The United States is now Taiwan's largest destination for outbound investments.

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Speaker 6: In other words, we are not putting all of our

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Speaker 6: eggs in the same basket. We hope that Taiwan's industries

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Speaker 6: will be rooted in Taiwan, deploy globally, and market across

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Speaker 6: the world. This will not only strengthen our economy, but

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Speaker 6: also make it more resilient, thereby safeguarding Taiwan's security. The

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Speaker 6: third pillar is standing together with the United States and

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Speaker 6: other free and democratic countries to bolster joints to Terrance.

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Speaker 6: This will allow us to prevent war by preparing for one.

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Speaker 6: And Fourthly, Taiwan is willing to engage in dialogue with

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Speaker 6: China based on parity and dignity. Through exchanges and cooperation,

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Speaker 6: we can achieve the goal of peace at mutual prosperity.

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Speaker 6: We hope that Taiwan will continue to enjoy the support

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Speaker 6: of President Trump. Is able to convince Xi Jinping to

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Speaker 6: permanently renounce the use of force against Taiwan, President Trump

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Speaker 6: will surely win the Nobel Peace Prize.

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Speaker 5: If I could ask you, if you could speak directly

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Speaker 5: to President Trump about the situation of Taiwan right now,

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Speaker 5: the security situation. More specifically, what would you want him

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Speaker 5: to know about ways to bolster the US Taiwan relationship and.

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Speaker 7: What would you view as goals that could be achieved

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Speaker 7: in this very important partnership.

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Speaker 6: I would suggest that he take note of the fact

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Speaker 6: that Chi Jinping is not just holding ever larger military

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Speaker 6: exercises in the Taiwan Strait, but expanding China's military deployment

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Speaker 6: in the South and East China seas. China's military exercises

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Speaker 6: now extend across the Indo Pacific region, Its aircraft carriers

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Speaker 6: are moving beyond the First Island Chain and Second Island Chain,

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Speaker 6: and its Northern fleet even sailed around Japan for a week.

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Speaker 6: Chinese naval vessels also conducted live fire exercises in Australia's

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Speaker 6: Exclusive Economic Zone. The situation in the Indo Pacific region

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Speaker 6: is changing constantly and tensions are rising. So the issue

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Speaker 6: is not only a possible annexation of Taiwan. If it

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Speaker 6: is able to annex Taiwan, China will be in a

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Speaker 6: stronger position to compete with the United States and alter

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Speaker 6: the rules based international order. This would eventually also impact

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Speaker 6: US interests. So we hope that President Trump can continue

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Speaker 6: to maintain peace and stability in the Indo Pacific. Taiwan

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Speaker 6: is determined to ensure its national security. We will fulfill

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Speaker 6: our responsibility and work with free and democratic countries to

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Speaker 6: maintain regional peace and stability.

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Speaker 5: What would you say, Because in America, given some difficult

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Speaker 5: lessons we have learned about foreign policy and foreign policy intervention,

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Speaker 5: there's a focus on partners who will carry their weight

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Speaker 5: for their own defense and have a willingness to fight.

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Speaker 5: If anyone in America, whether policy or voter citizen, has

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Speaker 5: a question about whether Taiwan is willing to defend its

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Speaker 5: own sovereignty, what would you say to that question?

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Speaker 6: I would tell them that Taiwan is absolutely determined to

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Speaker 6: ensure its own national security, peace and stability across the

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Speaker 6: Taiwan Strait are indispensable elements in global security and prosperity.

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Speaker 6: So when Taiwan looks after its own national security, it

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Speaker 6: shows that Taiwan is committed to protecting regional peace and

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Speaker 6: stability as well. That is why, as I mentioned before,

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Speaker 6: we are continuing to increase our national defense budget. So

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Speaker 6: during former President Tying Winds term, the national defense budget

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Speaker 6: was increased from one point nine per cent of GDP

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Speaker 6: to two point five percent. Next year it will reach

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Speaker 6: three point three two percent, and we hope to increase

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Speaker 6: this to five percent by twenty thirty. This would be

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Speaker 6: five years earlier than NATO's olden goal. I also convened

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Speaker 6: a high level national security meeting in which we defined

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Speaker 6: the Chinese Communist Party regime as a foreign hostile force,

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Speaker 6: and I proposed seventeen strategies to address the five major

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Speaker 6: threats we faced from China. These will translate into more

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Speaker 6: than one hundred amendments to our national security laws, which

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Speaker 6: will be reviewed by the Legislative un during the current session.

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Speaker 6: This will put Taiwan on a stronger legal footing, bolster

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Speaker 6: its national defense, and allow people to contribute to their

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Speaker 6: power towards safeguarding our nation and protecting regional peace and stability.

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Speaker 6: I believe that people help those who help themselves, So

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Speaker 6: I very much agree with your idea that Taiwan and

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Speaker 6: other countries should meet their own responsibilities. And when we

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Speaker 6: show unity and work together, that is when deterrence is

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Speaker 6: at its strongest, and that is when we will be

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Speaker 6: able to safeguard peace and stability in the world.

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Speaker 1: All right, So we're going to come back and do

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Speaker 1: more of this interview and touching on something I think

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Speaker 1: something that Taiwan is focused on, along with, of course

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Speaker 1: artificial intelligence its role in the world of semiconductors, but

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Speaker 1: All right, here's more of my interview with the President

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Speaker 1: of Taiwan, President lie On Well, the future of his country.

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Speaker 3: Let's dive into.

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Speaker 5: As part of our trip here, we were able to

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Speaker 5: spend some time with people from TSMC. Obviously, there's a

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Speaker 5: tremendous global and American specifically interest in artificial intelligence. It

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Speaker 5: was also very interesting to.

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Speaker 7: Learn in detail about the incredible facility that TSMC has

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Speaker 7: built and is building out more in Arizona. I would

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Speaker 7: like to ask you to speak to the economic partnership,

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Speaker 7: specifically in advanced technology, microchip manufacturing, artificial intelligence, the relationship

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Speaker 7: between Taiwan and America going forward, and how you view

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Speaker 7: that to grow and bring prosperity for both countries.

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Speaker 6: Taiwan, so we all know that Taiwan's technology industry has

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Speaker 6: performed well. This is the result of decades of cooperation

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Speaker 6: among Taiwan's industries, government, academia, and R and D, as

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Speaker 6: well as the support of the Taiwanese people. But I

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Speaker 6: must also note, with appropriate humility, that TSMC and the

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Speaker 6: Taiwanese semiconductor industry are still only one part of a

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Speaker 6: bigger ecosystem and do not represent the whole system. So

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Speaker 6: if you look at the entire semiconductor ecosystem, the United

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Speaker 6: States is strong in areas such as innovation, R and D,

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Speaker 6: and design, and it is also the biggest market. Japan

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Speaker 6: is strong in raw materials and related equipment, and the

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Speaker 6: Republic of Korea they have flash memory. Taiwans strength is

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Speaker 6: in waifer manufacturing, and the Netherlands makes the critical equipment

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Speaker 6: that is used to make semiconductors. But in the whole ecosystem,

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Speaker 6: you can see that around eighty percent of profits go

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Speaker 6: to the United States. So for semiconductors, I would say

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Speaker 6: the United States is still the leader in this ecosystem.

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Speaker 6: Looking ahead, as we face the AI era, every nation

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Speaker 6: in the semi doctor ecosystem will be extremely important and

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Speaker 6: the United States will continue to lead the world in this.

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Speaker 6: So Taiwan is very willing to work with the United

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Speaker 6: States to achieve this goal. We want to help the

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Speaker 6: United States reindustrialize and become a global AI hub. We

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Speaker 6: want the United States to continue to lead the world

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Speaker 6: in this new AI era, and we want to help

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Speaker 6: make America great again. So with regard to Taiwan's semiconductor industry,

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Speaker 6: we see it as an important responsibility in terms of

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Speaker 6: ensuring the world's future prosperity. That is why the Taiwan

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Speaker 6: government has been very supportive of TSMC's investments in the

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Speaker 6: United States and Japan, as well as Germany. In the future,

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Speaker 6: when the United States has reindustrialized and become a global

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Speaker 6: ai hub. I am sure that TSMC will continue to

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Speaker 6: play a crucial role.

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Speaker 5: Over the course of meetings with various members of your government,

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Speaker 5: I learned something that was very interesting to me, and

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Speaker 5: it has to do with a problem we have also

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Speaker 5: started to look at in America of family formation. It's

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Speaker 5: very interesting, I think, to the American audience to hear

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Speaker 5: of countries that are trying to use policy to address

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Speaker 5: issues like encouraging marriage and even more encouraging children so

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Speaker 5: that a society can replenish, so there's resiliency and there's replenishment.

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Speaker 5: Could you please speak to some of the ways that

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Speaker 5: you are encouraging people to have more kids here, because

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Speaker 5: this is something that in America we're also considering the

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Speaker 5: Trump administration through tax policy, but also culturally, there's a

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Speaker 5: sense that we need to bring those numbers up. How

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Speaker 5: are you doing that here and how are those initiatives

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Speaker 5: going so far?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I am very glad that you look positively at

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Speaker 6: what we have been doing in Taiwan. Actually, Taiwan's policies

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Speaker 6: were made with reference to what the United States and

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Speaker 6: other countries have been doing concerning our strategies First, the

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Speaker 6: government is supporting families in jointly raising children from birth

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Speaker 6: to six years old by providing monthly subsidies. Tuition is

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Speaker 6: also free for both public and private high schools and

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Speaker 6: vocational schools. Young people who want to get married and

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Speaker 6: have children are given priority in applying for social housings.

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Speaker 6: If they want to buy a home, they can get

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Speaker 6: government funding to subsidize the interest on their mortgage, and

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Speaker 6: if they are renting, they can get a rent subsidy

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Speaker 6: from the government. For couples who are having problems conceiving,

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Speaker 6: the government subsidizes fertility treatment. Taiwan's government is currently investing

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Speaker 6: more in our society and cutting taxes by more than

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Speaker 6: ever before in our history. These initiatives will help our

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Speaker 6: young people feel confident that they can get married, have children,

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Speaker 6: and will be able to raise them. I notes that

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Speaker 6: President Trump is also cutting taxes. We want to reduce

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Speaker 6: the burden on households so that more people can start

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Speaker 6: a family. This will promote social stability and continual growth

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Speaker 6: for the country.

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Speaker 5: Mister President, just want to say it's a beautiful country

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Speaker 5: with wonderful people who have been so welcoming to us,

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Speaker 5: and the alliance between our countries is to me and

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Speaker 5: to many others so important. Thank you for taking the time,

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Speaker 5: and we wish you and all of the taiwan Is

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Speaker 5: people well.

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Speaker 6: Thank you.

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Speaker 1: We'll have more on this, of course, throughout the week.

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Speaker 1: We'll be talking about it. Send me your thoughts, your emails,

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Speaker 1: and I'll be back with you so tomorrow Shield tie