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Speaker 1: Good morning, sweet world, and welcome to the No Dunks

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Speaker 1: Podcast presented by Fanduels Wednesday, July eighth, twenty twenty six.

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Speaker 1: I'm Jay Skeets here in the Classic Factory and alongside me,

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Speaker 1: as always Test.

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Speaker 2: Mellis podcast listeners, this is for you.

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Speaker 1: Next to him, it's my top shot, Hot Baway, Trey Kirby, Hey,

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Speaker 1: hey yo, an over Yonder making the magic happen. Super

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Speaker 1: producer Jdo there he is nodding away. Hello to everybody

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Speaker 1: subscribe podcast listeners, five star ratings and reviews. We got

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Speaker 1: a lot to get to on today's show. I know

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Speaker 1: I say that a lot, but we actually do before

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Speaker 1: we get into the first topic though. Congrats to our

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Speaker 1: guide Tim Bontemps on officially joining the Atlanta Hawks front office.

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Speaker 1: He's going to be a strategic advisor. A kaka to you,

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Speaker 1: good timmy good times.

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Speaker 2: Oh.

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Speaker 1: I can't wait to hear Tim Bontemps drop a kaka.

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Speaker 1: I think that's what they have to do. The signing exactly.

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Speaker 2: That's what he's going to walk into meetings with. Opens

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Speaker 2: the door, yeah, no, the cause back, Yes, how it

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Speaker 2: is there?

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Speaker 1: I congrets the congrats. That's a that's great, and uh,

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Speaker 1: I assume we'll be down here in the Atlanta area

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Speaker 1: working for the Atlanta Hawks. That's exactly open. Invite he

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Speaker 1: knows anytime he wants to come on in no dunks,

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Speaker 1: swing by the Classic Factory and tell us all of

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Speaker 1: your plans, your strategic advice for the Atlanta Hawks. Huge

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Speaker 1: news other news yesterday last night, the Wizards are bringing

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Speaker 1: back Chris Middleton on a three year, seventeen point six

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Speaker 1: million dollars deal by way of a sign and trade.

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Speaker 1: Dallas is sending the fourteen year Vet to the Wizards

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Speaker 1: as part of a larger six team deal that includes

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Speaker 1: in total, the Mavericks, the Wizards, the Clippers, the Pistons,

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Speaker 1: the Bucks, and the Grizzlies. It involves previously agreed upon

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Speaker 1: deals such as John Collins, Gary Harris, and Torrian Prince

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Speaker 1: all going to Detroit, Santi Aldama and Marcus Sassar are

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Speaker 1: going to Dallas, Beef Stu and AJ Johnson are going

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Speaker 1: to Memphis, Karris LeVert is going to Milwaukee, and the

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Speaker 1: Tzards are also sending D'Angelo Russell and second round picks

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Speaker 1: to the Grizzlies. I should say there are a bunch

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Speaker 1: of second round picks. Oh yeah, they are going around here.

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Speaker 1: These things are getting swapped swapped around like saliva at

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Speaker 1: a Swingers party. Second round picks. So I think I

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Speaker 1: broke it down there sort of the moving pieces. A

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Speaker 1: lot of crappy teams and maybe at this point below

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Speaker 1: average players. But anything jump out to you from the

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Speaker 1: sixteen deal.

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Speaker 2: Well, the Wizards won this straight. They went from d'angela

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Speaker 1: I'm with you, he was already there right, yeah for

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Speaker 1: the Wings.

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Speaker 2: You know, debatsa this guy, this guy won a championship.

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Speaker 2: It was a very very very key part. Now will

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Speaker 2: we ever be in the Hall of Fame? No? All

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Speaker 2: very good? Yeah, I'm shoving Chris Milton in there. That

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Speaker 2: guy was really key. With Jannistetokoumpo, who will get to

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Speaker 2: a little later in this show. But we have to

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Speaker 2: help out Debats and Keishaw, Jordans and cool Bally. I

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Speaker 2: think when you look at this trade, six team trade,

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Speaker 2: that was a record just two years ago. So the

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Speaker 2: new CBA, these are flying out a little bit more

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Speaker 2: yet A six with Klay Thompson, a seventh with Kevin

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Speaker 2: twenty six, so there happened.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, will we remember this one like you remember those other.

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Speaker 2: Onesimon get in on one, but Atlanta Hawks to advise

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Speaker 2: on Will we remember it? No? No, no, the answer

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Speaker 1: Like, who's the best player from this entire thing? I

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think he's like the most important player going

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Speaker 3: forward here, because you know that's basically the Pistons only

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Speaker 3: move so far this offseason, throwing Isaiah Joe that, bringing

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Speaker 3: back Kevin Herder and actually thought the Pistons part of

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Speaker 3: this is kind of weird. Yeah, they are getting John Collins.

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Speaker 3: We knew that was the case, replacing Tobias Harris. But

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Speaker 3: in this trade, Marcus Sasser goes out, he is Kris

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Speaker 3: Lavert goes out, these guys are minor pieces in the

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Speaker 3: grand scheme of things. But this leaves Detroit very very

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Speaker 3: shallow for ball handlers. They got kid and they got

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Speaker 1: That's it. Yeah, So I guess they're assuming.

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Speaker 3: Some growth from Masar Thompson perhaps as a ball handler.

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Speaker 3: Maybe they see something with Ron Holland. I haven't necessarily

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Speaker 3: seen that so far in his career. But they're saving

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Speaker 3: some cap money here. Of course they're getting a trade exception,

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Speaker 3: but they paid two seconds to get off of Kris Lavert.

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Speaker 1: You're gonna need a backup point guard.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you're gonna need somebody else that can handle the

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Speaker 3: Ballkaid isn't gonna play eighty two games. He's not gonna

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Speaker 1: Dannis Jenkins was a two way player last year.

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Speaker 3: This is a strange stuff to me from the Pistons,

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Speaker 3: but that's kind of been the case for the entirety

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Speaker 1: Some people think maybe something else is coming, or maybe

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Speaker 1: that's hopeful wishful thinking. I don't know. With Detroit like that,

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Speaker 1: this is setting up for something else. I see a

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Speaker 1: lot of talk about the idea of maybe even brandon

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Speaker 1: Ingram still being a piece that could make its way

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Speaker 1: to detri He can make his way to Detroit as

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Speaker 1: obviously a scoring that's sort of not maybe a ball

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Speaker 2: That interesting funny wise, Yeah, they need a guy who

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Speaker 2: can score. And going from Tobias Harris to John Collins

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Speaker 2: is a step back. As good as John Collins is

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Speaker 2: at Rim running Tobias Harris could make place happen. So yeah,

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Speaker 2: this whole Piston's picture is interesting for sure, getting away

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Speaker 2: from Marcus s Aster. They do have a Buka Corey

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Speaker 2: getting away from Isaiah Stewart who was a lot of

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Speaker 2: it's kind of their backup center. And so yeah, what

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Speaker 2: is this Piston's team? I think that's a fair question

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Speaker 2: after seeing this, and it does set up the possibility

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Speaker 2: of another trade. That's a good right because now Asar

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Speaker 2: Thompson can be extended and the Jalen Duran thing, those

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Speaker 2: are the two guys that you're really looking at right here.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I keep forgetting Jill and Duran is not.

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Speaker 2: Right now and no one's signing him.

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Speaker 3: I'm signing him obviously not the Lakers were going to

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Speaker 3: potentially be one of the teams that could give him

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Speaker 3: a big offer sheet. I guess the Nets still could,

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Speaker 3: but if they haven't yet, like yeah, that they gave.

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Speaker 1: It to have already happened.

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Speaker 3: So I guess the Pistons are going to get a

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Speaker 3: good deal on Jayalen Duran is what it's going to

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Speaker 1: Are pinching pennies right now in Detroit.

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Speaker 3: So that's probably good news for them because they haven't

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Speaker 3: gotten better, They've gotten.

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Speaker 1: At the best.

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Speaker 3: They've gotten the same as they were last year, and

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Speaker 3: a lot of teams in the East have beefed right

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Speaker 2: Anything else on well, the quick one on the MAVs

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Speaker 2: kinde of things. It feels like they're going to eventually

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Speaker 2: move PJ. Washington out of there now, getting Aldama and

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, the draft rights.

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Speaker 2: To the draft rights to him, who according to our

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Speaker 2: Tarik be Beverich be Beverige is the most plug and

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Speaker 2: play euro I've seen for the NBA in years. He's

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Speaker 2: ready to be a rotation guy on day one with

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Speaker 2: the shooting. So there's PJ. Washington is available there. As

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Speaker 2: they get younger, sal Jerry said, all right, we're getting

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Speaker 2: younger're building around Cooper flag and that may sense with

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Speaker 2: an Aldama and other young guys, but they have some

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Speaker 2: parts that are going to be moving around.

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Speaker 1: And Sassar is there, I said, I mean, how long

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Speaker 1: he'll be there? Like you, all of these names that

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Speaker 1: I've thrown at you here, how many of them will

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Speaker 1: be on the roster they just got traded to by

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Speaker 1: the end of next season? How seriously? Like John Collins?

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Speaker 1: Maybe too. I'm telling you, I think you set the

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Speaker 1: line up over. Okay, so let's set the line.

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Speaker 2: Okay, I'm going over. Who are the other guys?

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Speaker 3: Christmas Beast is in this to?

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Speaker 2: Yes? Absolutely? How many guys were in this trade?

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Speaker 1: It's like, I don't know something.

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Speaker 3: But for the Miami Heat, like Chris Middleton, that seemed

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Speaker 3: like I was going to be a Heat, having the

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Speaker 3: relationship with Giannis and the opportunity there. The Wizards are

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Speaker 3: basically like, he's not even gonna play for us, He's

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Speaker 3: just coming to be a good guy and teach aj debantsa.

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Speaker 3: But I'm like, the Heat are gonna need players at

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Speaker 3: some point. They did get Tim Hardaway and his dad

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Speaker 3: is letting him wear his number. Now cool, that's what

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Speaker 3: I saw.

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Speaker 1: I don't know. I keep seeing conflicting reports on this. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: why would you not?

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Speaker 3: It's weird to say no, you can't wear my number.

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Speaker 3: I'm sorry, that's a weird thing, especially hard Away named

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Speaker 3: your kids after you, same thing, Larry Nance style as

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Speaker 3: we talked about. But I thought Chris Middleton would be

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Speaker 3: a heat and I thought, yes, there was a little

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Speaker 3: bit of an opportunity for him to do something at

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Speaker 3: the end of his career here. But now it's like,

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Speaker 3: this really ain't the year for Miami. Not that Middleton

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Speaker 3: was pushing him on the top, but.

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Speaker 2: Like fill it out, Patrick, We'll get to it a

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Speaker 2: little later. But I think Tomarto Rosen going to Miami,

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Speaker 2: there's a good opportunity there, very good. They need to score.

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Speaker 2: You could literally come off the bench for the Heat

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Speaker 2: and drop twenty if you're Demarta Rosen. So I think

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Speaker 2: that is a legitimate connection right there. Dollars wise, he

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Speaker 2: doesn't necessary really care because he's getting ten million dollars

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Speaker 2: from the Sacramento Kings already, So you just make a

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Speaker 2: minimum deal. I mean, if you're okay with coming off

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Speaker 2: the bench, because I think he would be ideal for that.

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Speaker 2: I was ever done that before.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I wonder how many of these teams when it

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Speaker 1: comes to de Rozan are just waiting to see where

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Speaker 1: the Lebron James piece falls, Like He could be a

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Speaker 1: sort of a backup plan for a lot of the

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Speaker 1: teams that maybe don't get Lebron and then you pivot

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Speaker 1: to a DeRozan, right, could be it could be tied

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Speaker 1: a little bit in terms of just waiting.

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Speaker 2: I guess well, I mean yeah, I think they would she.

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Speaker 1: Eat the Nuggets, the Warriors, stuff like this could could be.

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Speaker 1: All right, Let's get to our other piece of news here.

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Speaker 1: Kyle Lowry has officially announced his retirement after a twenty

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Speaker 1: year NBA career. The groat, the greatest Raptor of all times,

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Speaker 1: signed a one day contract yesterday to retire as a

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Speaker 1: member of the Raptors. He had promised this a while back,

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Speaker 1: and they followed through on it. He and the team

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Speaker 1: held a formal press conference yesterday. They just celebrated his

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Speaker 1: return and and I guess they did, say Toronto Mayor

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Speaker 1: Olivia Chouse said July seventh, twenty twenty six, hereby known

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Speaker 1: as Kyle Lowry Day seven seven. He wore number seven. Good,

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Speaker 1: there's that. GM Bobby Webster also told reporters that the

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Speaker 1: team will be, of course retiring Kyle Lowry's number seven

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Speaker 3: I liked that he was asked what the favorite charge

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Speaker 3: But yeah, I mean Lward said he was going to

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Speaker 1: Even to the point where the Raptors were trading him.

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Speaker 1: at but we were there. We were season ticket holders.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely. Yeah, the memories start to kind of blend all together,

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Speaker 2: But either way, oh that's where that's where you got

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Speaker 2: in because Christiaan was. That's funny. Yes, obviously, Kyle Lowry.

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Speaker 1: Just a special guy.

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Speaker 3: I didn't realize that. Uh when he was a Ricky

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Speaker 3: that was interesting to hear, especially considering, you know, the

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Speaker 3: the Raptors Mount Rushmore, the Mount raps More. Okay, Lowry's

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's easy building a mountain Mount Rushmore of the

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Speaker 2: Yeah. But as Alvin Williams said to Kyle Lowry, you

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Speaker 2: there wasn't Yeah fair enough, there was that huge gap

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Speaker 2: Another guy you'd include is Alvin Williams hit a big

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Speaker 1: We're shooting great percentages of the free throw line. I

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Speaker 3: good for Cleveland. I don't know about everything else. He's

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Speaker 1: Lot of similarities to Devin Booker I've seen as well,

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Speaker 1: Task What do you think they had to do it?

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Speaker 2: those two guys will be making one hundred and thirty

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Speaker 2: two mil. Those two individuals, that's who they're building around.

435
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Speaker 2: So it's a very different setup in ownership. If you're

436
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Speaker 2: comparing Boston to Cleveland, or you know, even to Philadelphia,

437
00:20:30,960 --> 00:20:34,240
Speaker 2: they're just so different. Now, they're still setting themselves up

438
00:20:34,520 --> 00:20:36,639
Speaker 2: to try and build around Mitchell and Mobile. You know,

439
00:20:36,680 --> 00:20:39,800
Speaker 2: they let Dean Wade go because that spot's right there

440
00:20:39,840 --> 00:20:43,520
Speaker 2: for Lebron James to start at small Ford when he wants.

441
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Speaker 2: But I wonder if this setting themselves up until literally

442
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Speaker 2: twenty thirty twenty thirty one means Lebron can stay there

443
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Speaker 2: for multiple years. Lebron can play multiple years, not just one.

444
00:20:56,560 --> 00:20:59,680
Speaker 2: So your team is Mitchell Mobley and Jared Allen. You're

445
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Speaker 2: way for Harden to still sign an extension. He'll be

446
00:21:02,280 --> 00:21:04,640
Speaker 2: just signed it. He will be for sure. There's talks

447
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Speaker 2: about Kaminga coming in maybe off the bench in Lebron

448
00:21:08,920 --> 00:21:10,399
Speaker 2: because they let go Dean Wade and they let go

449
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Speaker 2: Kean Ellis. So yeah, it's a lot of money, There's

450
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Speaker 2: no doubt. There's a lot of money for a team

451
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Speaker 2: that has gone to one conference finals.

452
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Speaker 1: Right just got there. Obviously, yes they got swept in

453
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Speaker 1: the end, blew that big lead, but I guess, yeah,

454
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Speaker 1: it's a lot of money. These contracts when you're at

455
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Speaker 1: this level of player, they're huge, and these these numbers

456
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Speaker 1: are still eye opening. Four years, two hundred and seventy

457
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Speaker 1: three million. But if he had waited, like we said,

458
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Speaker 1: TK got to the ten year vet, he could have

459
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Speaker 1: signed a five year, three hundred and fifty three million

460
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Speaker 1: dollar extension with the Cavs next summer. So when you

461
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Speaker 1: look at it like that, this is better for Cleveland

462
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Speaker 1: the last year the last year, and obviously, you know,

463
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Speaker 1: less money there. He's just opting right now for financial

464
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Speaker 1: security and I guess any sort of protection against injury

465
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Speaker 1: here as he ages up just to lock it in.

466
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Speaker 1: It's a lot of money.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly, it's a lot of money. But I don't

468
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Speaker 3: I don't know. To me, it means this year is

469
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Speaker 3: kind of the window for the Cavs maybe next year

470
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Speaker 3: as well, because Mitchell will start to tail off. Yeah, unfortunately,

471
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Speaker 3: that's true. He's not huge and he relies on athleticism.

472
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Speaker 3: He's a great shooter, so I think that that can

473
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Speaker 3: continue going up. But like this year, you've got sixty

474
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Speaker 3: percent of the cap tied up in Mobley and Mitchell.

475
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Speaker 3: Next year it's sixty six, and it just keeps going

476
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Speaker 3: up and up. After that, we literally just sat through

477
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Speaker 3: a press conference of a guy who won a championship

478
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Speaker 3: telling us, yeah, it's impossible to win a championship with

479
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Speaker 3: two year guys making seventy percent of the cap. And

480
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Speaker 3: the Cavs said, give us that. We're going to try.

481
00:22:38,119 --> 00:22:41,280
Speaker 3: They said, raise my rent. I love to grind, and

482
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Speaker 3: it's basically what the Cavs are going to have to do.

483
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Speaker 3: These are your stars, Donovan Mitchell and Evan Mobley. Can

484
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Speaker 3: they take you to the championship?

485
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Speaker 1: We'll see Ruy Hachimura. He's signed for a lot less

486
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Speaker 1: than Donovan Mitchell's contract extension, but he's not going to

487
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Speaker 1: have to travel far at all to his new team.

488
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Speaker 1: The Clippers and Ruey have agreed to a two year

489
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Speaker 1: deal twenty eight million dollars, so fourteen per there for

490
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Speaker 1: Ruly Hachamura going to the Clips.

491
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Speaker 2: Yeah, he likes la at Corner Shop Shrine and wanted

492
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Speaker 2: to stay right there. This is year eight and nine

493
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Speaker 2: under this contract for Ruiy etchem were I wonder if

494
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Speaker 2: he could have a twenty year career. Now it's pushing

495
00:23:18,880 --> 00:23:21,480
Speaker 2: him a long time because he's got into the NBA

496
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Speaker 2: at twenty one, so he'd literally be playing till forty one.

497
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Speaker 2: But he feels like one of those guys you can

498
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Speaker 2: put him on any team. He could fire away from three,

499
00:23:29,400 --> 00:23:31,800
Speaker 2: and he could play really well defensively, So it feels

500
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Speaker 2: like he could be one of those guys. Simple as that.

501
00:23:34,920 --> 00:23:39,120
Speaker 2: The Clippers roster really interesting. They know who they are

502
00:23:39,880 --> 00:23:42,720
Speaker 2: with Garland and Ingram at this point unless they trade

503
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Speaker 2: him plus Ruey and then the younger guys Keaton Woggler,

504
00:23:47,600 --> 00:23:50,920
Speaker 2: Meeor Hauser, Kobe Sanders, A, Grady Dick. Your bench is

505
00:23:51,000 --> 00:23:53,760
Speaker 2: Jordan Miller, Isaiah Jackson. There you've got Vets and done,

506
00:23:54,440 --> 00:23:55,960
Speaker 2: Derek John Junior, and Brook Lopez.

507
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Speaker 1: But well, I thought of you when this news came through.

508
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Speaker 1: I think it came through on Friday after our show

509
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Speaker 1: where you had said or Monday Chiefs whatever, where you

510
00:24:04,640 --> 00:24:07,960
Speaker 1: had said the Clipper's gotta pay somebody here like you

511
00:24:08,000 --> 00:24:10,000
Speaker 1: were looking at their they're obviously their books. I was like,

512
00:24:10,000 --> 00:24:11,760
Speaker 1: they've got to get to the floor, and so some

513
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Speaker 1: of it goes to Rui here TK.

514
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Speaker 2: Peyton Watson is still an option for Brandon.

515
00:24:17,359 --> 00:24:19,679
Speaker 3: Ingram still a trade piece for the Clippers. So we

516
00:24:19,680 --> 00:24:21,720
Speaker 3: don't exactly know what their team's gonna look like. But

517
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Speaker 3: with what they're putting together, at least here on July eighth,

518
00:24:24,680 --> 00:24:27,800
Speaker 3: that looks like maybe play and potential for the Los

519
00:24:27,800 --> 00:24:30,199
Speaker 3: Angeles Clippers. They got some players that, you know. But

520
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Speaker 3: the way I look at it is, this is a

521
00:24:32,760 --> 00:24:34,960
Speaker 3: very cheap deal for Ruey Hatchamura, who's been one of

522
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Speaker 3: the best high volume three point shooters for the past

523
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Speaker 3: three years. He's making less per year than John Collins,

524
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Speaker 3: less per year than Tobias Harris. I'm pretty sure that

525
00:24:42,680 --> 00:24:46,359
Speaker 3: Ruy's younger than both of those guys. You throw in

526
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Speaker 3: the fact that the Lakers basically chose Grimes and Mamu

527
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Speaker 3: over Ruy Hatchamura and Lebron, I'm just kind of shocked

528
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Speaker 3: that Ruey couldn't get a better deal somewhere. I know

529
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Speaker 3: he's a little bit flighty Defensively, he's like his one

530
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Speaker 3: skill is shooting basketball. But he's a great shooter, good skill,

531
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Speaker 3: and he always shows up in the playoffs. He's like

532
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Speaker 3: fifty percent from three in his career in the playoffs.

533
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Speaker 3: He has been a riser in the couple of chances

534
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Speaker 3: that he's gotten. So I don't know, I feel like

535
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Speaker 3: teams are going to regret not signing ruy Hachamran let

536
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Speaker 3: him go to the Clippers and just play some basketball.

537
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Speaker 2: But apparently he did have bigger offers and he wanted

538
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Speaker 2: to stay in LA. Yeah, yeah, I'll check my my

539
00:25:22,720 --> 00:25:25,959
Speaker 2: rumor sources. But yes, I did read somewhere he had

540
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Speaker 2: multiple bigger money too.

541
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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's true.

542
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Speaker 2: Was that was that a Steiner? But that sort of

543
00:25:33,200 --> 00:25:36,280
Speaker 2: makes sense because you're right, the best three point shooter

544
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Speaker 2: in NBA playoff history here because he's shot a lot

545
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Speaker 2: of them.

546
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Speaker 1: Contract what does Luke Carnard make? I know you would

547
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Speaker 1: know off the top of your head, But like, I

548
00:25:46,680 --> 00:25:48,440
Speaker 1: bring him up because I saw the stat that over

549
00:25:48,480 --> 00:25:52,840
Speaker 1: the last three full seasons with the Lakers, Ruychimura has

550
00:25:52,840 --> 00:25:55,480
Speaker 1: made nearly forty three percent of his three pointers, which

551
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Speaker 1: ranks second only to Luke Canard out of all of

552
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Speaker 1: the players with at least five hundred the tempts. So

553
00:26:00,960 --> 00:26:05,159
Speaker 1: high volume, great percentage over the last three years. But

554
00:26:05,240 --> 00:26:07,400
Speaker 1: that's really his one that sort of is his only

555
00:26:07,440 --> 00:26:09,040
Speaker 1: skill at this point. He can pump fake you off

556
00:26:09,040 --> 00:26:11,320
Speaker 1: that and step into a little midi but uh yeah,

557
00:26:11,400 --> 00:26:12,879
Speaker 1: not giving you much on the other end. Sort of

558
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Speaker 1: like Lukenard.

559
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Speaker 3: Two years thirteen mil for Luke Canard. Reruly's better and

560
00:26:17,600 --> 00:26:20,280
Speaker 3: younger and bigger, so he should make more. But he

561
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Speaker 3: should make more than twice what Luke Canard does.

562
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Speaker 1: I think. Okay, there you go.

563
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Speaker 2: He turned down offers from Golden State, Minnesota, Brooklyn, and

564
00:26:26,800 --> 00:26:29,520
Speaker 2: San Antonio. Now it's not clear how much those were

565
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Speaker 2: dollar figures.

566
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Speaker 1: This guy loves La. Yeah, I mean turn it down Brooklyn, fine, Yeah.

567
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Speaker 2: They have a ton of money to worry.

568
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Speaker 1: Yeah. The Spurs is pretty crazy, that is. I mean,

569
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Speaker 1: especially the Spurs. That'd be a good role for you.

570
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Speaker 1: They needed some clutch three point shooting in the postseason.

571
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Speaker 1: You'd be one of the more The Vet's gout Wow,

572
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Speaker 1: okay those reports. He loves he loves La. He bought

573
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Speaker 1: the shirt. Yeah, says my heart outa. He's like, I

574
00:26:56,000 --> 00:27:00,760
Speaker 1: gotta wear it all right. Speaking of the Lakers have

575
00:27:00,760 --> 00:27:04,080
Speaker 1: found a backup big man to compliment Walker Kessler. The

576
00:27:04,119 --> 00:27:06,439
Speaker 1: team has agreed to terms with Kevon Looney on a

577
00:27:06,480 --> 00:27:09,440
Speaker 1: one year deal for the vet minimum salary three point

578
00:27:09,520 --> 00:27:13,080
Speaker 1: nine million dollars. Looney spent ten seasons with the Warriors,

579
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Speaker 1: which I had to like triple check. I was like,

580
00:27:14,840 --> 00:27:18,399
Speaker 1: what hold on through that long won three championships. He

581
00:27:18,480 --> 00:27:21,399
Speaker 1: last played for the Pelicans and that was an injury riddled,

582
00:27:21,400 --> 00:27:23,240
Speaker 1: dear task. So he's going to the Lakers. Do you

583
00:27:23,320 --> 00:27:24,240
Speaker 1: like this little move here?

584
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Speaker 2: It's fine, it's it's a downgrade. It's a downgrade because

585
00:27:30,480 --> 00:27:33,720
Speaker 2: Kevon Looney didn't play basketball last year. He played twenty games.

586
00:27:34,400 --> 00:27:38,439
Speaker 2: So there's much on their top guys to reproduce a

587
00:27:38,480 --> 00:27:42,440
Speaker 2: fifty three win season. I don't think they do it.

588
00:27:43,119 --> 00:27:45,199
Speaker 2: You look at the fan duel line right now for

589
00:27:45,280 --> 00:27:48,280
Speaker 2: the twenty six to twenty seven Los Angeles Lakers regular

590
00:27:48,280 --> 00:27:55,200
Speaker 2: season wins, it's forty four and a half. Wow. Wow. Yeah,

591
00:27:55,280 --> 00:27:59,160
Speaker 2: because there's a lot on perimeter defense without Marcus Smart

592
00:27:59,200 --> 00:28:02,119
Speaker 2: there now it's Grimes. You're going to be doing it

593
00:28:02,119 --> 00:28:05,280
Speaker 2: as an undersized small forward beside Luca and Austin Reeves.

594
00:28:05,680 --> 00:28:09,360
Speaker 2: And then there's a lot on their bigs Beside those

595
00:28:09,359 --> 00:28:12,760
Speaker 2: three guys. It's either Mamu or Jake la Ravia starting

596
00:28:12,760 --> 00:28:14,760
Speaker 2: at the four along with Walker Kessler, who's going to

597
00:28:14,800 --> 00:28:18,879
Speaker 2: be awesome. But then yeah, they're lacking their bench is

598
00:28:18,880 --> 00:28:21,480
Speaker 2: now Sex and Jane Hardy. Either Mammou or La Ravia,

599
00:28:21,520 --> 00:28:25,320
Speaker 2: whoever starts and Looney Dalton connect four? Can you put it?

600
00:28:25,359 --> 00:28:27,480
Speaker 2: Can you connect it all together? Wow? We still have

601
00:28:27,600 --> 00:28:31,359
Speaker 2: hoping him well yeah, but still they're undersized. You know,

602
00:28:31,400 --> 00:28:33,680
Speaker 2: I mentioned all was and Jared Vanderbilt. I loved you, man,

603
00:28:33,720 --> 00:28:36,800
Speaker 2: but it ain't happening right now offensively in today's NBA.

604
00:28:36,920 --> 00:28:39,680
Speaker 2: So I don't think they're coming to that fifty three

605
00:28:39,760 --> 00:28:44,080
Speaker 2: win total on last on last Lucas you know, otherworldly,

606
00:28:44,240 --> 00:28:45,720
Speaker 2: but there's a lot on those guys.

607
00:28:46,200 --> 00:28:48,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, I guess the Lakers basically decided we'd rather pay

608
00:28:48,840 --> 00:28:52,520
Speaker 3: Kevon Looney four million dollars than DeAndre eight and eight

609
00:28:52,560 --> 00:28:54,760
Speaker 3: million dollars, And they said, we just want a serious

610
00:28:54,760 --> 00:28:56,560
Speaker 3: guy around here, not somebody who's going to be chucking

611
00:28:56,600 --> 00:29:01,560
Speaker 3: up half court shops from his waist during pregame. Looney

612
00:29:01,560 --> 00:29:03,880
Speaker 3: will come in, he'll screen, he'll rebound and hill foul guys.

613
00:29:03,960 --> 00:29:06,640
Speaker 3: He looks older at age thirty than Al Horford does

614
00:29:06,680 --> 00:29:07,320
Speaker 3: at age forty.

615
00:29:07,400 --> 00:29:07,560
Speaker 2: Yeah.

616
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Speaker 3: I don't know how this is possible that he's still

617
00:29:09,240 --> 00:29:12,040
Speaker 3: this young, but he's a decent backup big man. There

618
00:29:12,080 --> 00:29:14,520
Speaker 3: are guys that I would have liked better earlier in

619
00:29:14,560 --> 00:29:18,360
Speaker 3: the transaction cycle, you know, like a dream would have

620
00:29:18,360 --> 00:29:21,040
Speaker 3: been Mitchell Robinson for the Lakers, and I know they

621
00:29:21,040 --> 00:29:24,120
Speaker 3: were just chasing Valentchunis. Potentially, I think Looney is a

622
00:29:24,160 --> 00:29:26,120
Speaker 3: better option than that. We'll see if he's able to

623
00:29:26,280 --> 00:29:29,320
Speaker 3: flashback at all to the Golden State days because the

624
00:29:29,360 --> 00:29:31,480
Speaker 3: New Orleans season was just kind of a lost season

625
00:29:31,520 --> 00:29:32,320
Speaker 3: for Cavan Looney.

626
00:29:32,360 --> 00:29:34,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, they told us they needed a backup big after

627
00:29:34,480 --> 00:29:36,040
Speaker 1: eight and got trade of the Wizard, So this is

628
00:29:36,080 --> 00:29:38,840
Speaker 1: their backup big, of course, and he can obviously still

629
00:29:38,840 --> 00:29:40,880
Speaker 1: set a screen. Like Trey said, he's a better offensive

630
00:29:40,880 --> 00:29:44,760
Speaker 1: rebounder than eighton definitely was even Jackson Hayes. But you know,

631
00:29:44,840 --> 00:29:47,360
Speaker 1: you just, yeah, I think we think he's forty years old.

632
00:29:47,400 --> 00:29:49,920
Speaker 1: He's not, and he had the injury riddle season, so

633
00:29:49,960 --> 00:29:51,840
Speaker 1: you're just hoping he bounces back. That's what they're hoping on.

634
00:29:51,880 --> 00:29:55,160
Speaker 1: And it's obviously cheap as hell, and he's he's playing

635
00:29:55,200 --> 00:29:57,840
Speaker 1: for another contract as well, to sort of get back

636
00:29:57,840 --> 00:30:00,000
Speaker 1: to the level maybe he was contributing with the Warriors.

637
00:30:00,280 --> 00:30:02,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, and he was a steady guy before last season.

638
00:30:03,320 --> 00:30:05,520
Speaker 2: As much as I poke a hole in that, he

639
00:30:05,560 --> 00:30:07,960
Speaker 2: did play a lot of games before that for several years.

640
00:30:08,040 --> 00:30:10,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, you weren't poking a hole really in Looney as

641
00:30:10,040 --> 00:30:11,959
Speaker 1: much as you are, Like, look at the Lakers. I've

642
00:30:11,960 --> 00:30:16,400
Speaker 1: found an interesting offseason here they have. It's a different

643
00:30:16,800 --> 00:30:19,080
Speaker 1: He's going to be a much different team in a

644
00:30:19,120 --> 00:30:21,880
Speaker 1: way because it's still Luca and Austin Reeves, but a

645
00:30:21,880 --> 00:30:24,400
Speaker 1: lot of other pieces. Yeah, and can they hold up

646
00:30:24,400 --> 00:30:28,240
Speaker 1: defensively and all that. Sacramento Kings have waived Demarta Rosen.

647
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Speaker 1: They did this on Monday. They made the six time

648
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Speaker 1: All Star one of the top free agents on the market.

649
00:30:33,080 --> 00:30:35,600
Speaker 1: DeRozan had a partial guarantee on his contract for next season,

650
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Speaker 1: but he and Sacramento worked on his release to allow

651
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Speaker 1: him to find a new home. So DeRozan hitting free

652
00:30:40,080 --> 00:30:43,240
Speaker 1: agency here TK is expected.

653
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Speaker 3: And Jake Fisher said it's kind of between Toronto and Miami.

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Speaker 1: Like tast mentioned, I think.

655
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Speaker 3: The Golden State Warriors are probably an option for DeRozan

656
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Speaker 3: as well. Better story going back to the Raptors, but

657
00:30:56,720 --> 00:30:59,080
Speaker 3: a better role for DeRozan, I would think in either

658
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Speaker 3: Miami or Golden State, which is why I think the

659
00:31:02,960 --> 00:31:05,080
Speaker 3: Toronto thing is more of like, oh, this would be cool,

660
00:31:06,000 --> 00:31:07,360
Speaker 3: then this is what's gonna happen.

661
00:31:08,160 --> 00:31:11,520
Speaker 2: They got me. They got me when they had that

662
00:31:11,640 --> 00:31:15,760
Speaker 2: video of Kyle Lowry getting called by everybody. The names

663
00:31:15,800 --> 00:31:18,240
Speaker 2: that jump on his phone that they throw in there.

664
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Speaker 2: DeMar DeRozan of course is one of them. Dwayne Casey,

665
00:31:21,480 --> 00:31:23,680
Speaker 2: the head coach that made him great, was also one

666
00:31:23,720 --> 00:31:27,240
Speaker 2: of them. And so yeah, nostalgia for sure, that's a

667
00:31:27,240 --> 00:31:30,720
Speaker 2: big part he Cavaliers I think are legitimate. I saw

668
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Speaker 2: Matt George, who works directly with the around the Sacramento

669
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Speaker 2: Kings throughout those two teams. Or does he stay in

670
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Speaker 2: LA with the Clippers because he likes La. I mean,

671
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Speaker 2: he doesn't stay in LA, but you know in that

672
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Speaker 2: area because he's from LA. That's a possibility there if

673
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Speaker 2: he wants to just get chucks, because he'll get whatever

674
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Speaker 2: shots he wants. I feel like with the Los Angeles

675
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Speaker 2: Clippers at this point.

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Speaker 1: You've listed a lot of the teams he's been linked to.

677
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Speaker 1: I'll throw out one more though, just because of his agency.

678
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Speaker 1: DeRozan I believe is represented by CIA, and the New

679
00:32:01,440 --> 00:32:07,600
Speaker 1: York Knicks love CIA clientele, So I just wondered, you know,

680
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Speaker 1: could there be a role from there if they you know,

681
00:32:09,840 --> 00:32:11,840
Speaker 1: you went off of Jordan Clarkson and you went more

682
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Speaker 1: with DeRozan as that guy. Maybe maybe, but I think

683
00:32:15,520 --> 00:32:18,400
Speaker 1: it's more Miami Toronto. I also think there's this weird

684
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Speaker 1: he is a bit of a maybe backup plan to

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Speaker 1: some of the teams chasing Lebron, Like I said, the

686
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Speaker 1: Miami of course, but the Nuggets, maybe the Warriors, something

687
00:32:26,640 --> 00:32:29,320
Speaker 1: like that. There's still a role for him. We think

688
00:32:29,360 --> 00:32:31,200
Speaker 1: we would love to see him in that six man role.

689
00:32:31,320 --> 00:32:32,880
Speaker 1: I think that would be very cool at the end

690
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Speaker 1: of his career here the last couple of years to

691
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Speaker 1: really embrace that. So we'll see.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and the Knicks still have spots that they can

693
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Speaker 2: fill in because I guess Dylan Jeans or Dylan Jones,

694
00:32:46,040 --> 00:32:49,000
Speaker 2: whatever you prefer, isn't on the roster. So yeah, I think

695
00:32:48,960 --> 00:32:52,200
Speaker 2: that's fun. Jeremy Soham don't think he's coming back, but yeah,

696
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Speaker 2: the Clarkson one, that's the kind of the one, right uh.

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Speaker 1: Jokich has reaffirmed his desire to finish his career with

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Speaker 1: the Denver Nuggets, but he said he plans to wait

699
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Speaker 1: to sign an extension. Why because he wants to wait

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Speaker 1: on his next contract to add another year of MAX

701
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Speaker 1: money to his deal, which would be another like eighty

702
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Speaker 1: million dollar extra, so he is gonna wait here until

703
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Speaker 1: next summer. Tests.

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Speaker 2: I believe this. I don't think this is just him

705
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Speaker 2: playing with American media because he said this in Serbian

706
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Speaker 2: and I went and watched the clip, and you know,

707
00:33:28,040 --> 00:33:30,760
Speaker 2: when you go to Europe, you're just yourself. He's out

708
00:33:30,800 --> 00:33:33,840
Speaker 2: there balling, and I think this is his legitimate self,

709
00:33:34,040 --> 00:33:36,840
Speaker 2: just talking, reading his body language as he said something

710
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Speaker 2: in Serbian, which I obviously didn't understand, but reading the

711
00:33:40,280 --> 00:33:43,040
Speaker 2: caption as they show up, you know, my idea is

712
00:33:43,080 --> 00:33:45,680
Speaker 2: to sign in Denver, whether they will sign me or not.

713
00:33:45,880 --> 00:33:48,040
Speaker 2: Ha ha ha. It's you know, it's a joke. It's basically,

714
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Speaker 2: are they going to sign me to an extension? Which

715
00:33:49,640 --> 00:33:51,720
Speaker 2: he was up for last year too and decided to

716
00:33:51,720 --> 00:33:54,040
Speaker 2: push it back to this year. And so you can say, well,

717
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Speaker 2: if he's pushing it back another year, then he's just

718
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Speaker 2: waiting to see what they built around him. But I

719
00:33:59,040 --> 00:34:02,840
Speaker 2: think he's a one team type of guy. If they're

720
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Speaker 2: willing to pay him, and they are willing to pay him,

721
00:34:04,960 --> 00:34:07,440
Speaker 2: I imagine they aren't willing to pay a lot of guys,

722
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Speaker 2: but I think they are willing to pay that guy.

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Speaker 1: By waiting until the twenty seven offseason, Yokich will be

724
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Speaker 1: eligible to sign a five year, three hundred and fifty

725
00:34:15,200 --> 00:34:17,160
Speaker 1: nine point five million dollar contract.

726
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Speaker 2: That's all.

727
00:34:18,440 --> 00:34:19,480
Speaker 1: That's a real number.

728
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Speaker 2: And take it back, he's not signing with Denver.

729
00:34:21,840 --> 00:34:23,640
Speaker 1: That is crazy.

730
00:34:23,960 --> 00:34:25,959
Speaker 3: That's the largest contract in league history.

731
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Speaker 1: And here was a second round pick. Yep, and he

732
00:34:28,160 --> 00:34:30,560
Speaker 1: will probably sign that. If you know it sounds like

733
00:34:30,600 --> 00:34:32,200
Speaker 1: he's gonna wait till then why wouldn't you? And you'll

734
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Speaker 1: sign that there.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, And in my perspective, zero reason to give the

736
00:34:36,640 --> 00:34:39,600
Speaker 3: Nuggets a discount because since they won the championship in

737
00:34:39,600 --> 00:34:42,360
Speaker 3: twenty twenty three, it's been all cost cutting, basically gearing

738
00:34:42,440 --> 00:34:46,040
Speaker 3: up to have to pay Jokic this gigantic deal alongside

739
00:34:46,160 --> 00:34:50,920
Speaker 3: Jamal Murray's gigantic deal, alongside Aaron Gordon's gigantic deal. So

740
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Speaker 3: this will be awesome for Jokic. I don't know if

741
00:34:54,680 --> 00:34:57,839
Speaker 3: it'll be awesome for Jamal Murray because once this kicks in,

742
00:34:58,200 --> 00:35:01,200
Speaker 3: this bumps the Nugs up to about sixty five percent

743
00:35:01,239 --> 00:35:05,000
Speaker 3: of the cap on just jokicchen Murray. That increases to

744
00:35:05,080 --> 00:35:07,919
Speaker 3: over seventy percent of the cap. That's the Brad Stevens number.

745
00:35:07,920 --> 00:35:09,680
Speaker 3: That I'm never going to forget you throw an Aaron Gordon.

746
00:35:09,680 --> 00:35:12,040
Speaker 3: You're talking about ninety percent of the cap, which means

747
00:35:12,080 --> 00:35:14,520
Speaker 3: Jamal Murray needs to start playing like a maximum player,

748
00:35:14,680 --> 00:35:16,600
Speaker 3: otherwise he will be the one that they look at

749
00:35:16,600 --> 00:35:19,880
Speaker 3: and say, how do we break this up into more pieces?

750
00:35:19,960 --> 00:35:23,040
Speaker 1: Just like the celth East did. Yep, And I said,

751
00:35:23,160 --> 00:35:25,800
Speaker 1: by waiting, you can make basically another eighty million dollars.

752
00:35:25,960 --> 00:35:29,800
Speaker 1: Our our friend Zach Harper looked it up and apparently

753
00:35:29,800 --> 00:35:33,320
Speaker 1: the most expensive race horse ever sold went for seventy

754
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Speaker 1: million dollars.

755
00:35:35,239 --> 00:35:35,560
Speaker 2: Horse.

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00:35:35,680 --> 00:35:38,239
Speaker 1: Yes, so Zach Harper's thinking, you know, maybe he's also

757
00:35:38,320 --> 00:35:40,880
Speaker 1: got his mind. He's got his eyes on a particular horse.

758
00:35:42,400 --> 00:35:44,480
Speaker 1: Just wait one more. You get that money, you put

759
00:35:44,520 --> 00:35:46,480
Speaker 1: it into the horse, it wins all your money back

760
00:35:46,480 --> 00:35:49,919
Speaker 1: for you. Right, So, I know that's how he looks

761
00:35:49,960 --> 00:35:52,280
Speaker 1: at it. He doesn't look at it in dollar figures.

762
00:35:52,880 --> 00:35:57,760
Speaker 1: He looks at it in oats. Yeah. So yeah, Denver's

763
00:35:57,760 --> 00:35:59,399
Speaker 1: also got things to do here. He talked about Peyton

764
00:35:59,400 --> 00:36:01,879
Speaker 1: Watson Enter Jones. I think is still a restricted.

765
00:36:01,560 --> 00:36:04,759
Speaker 2: Pre agent, everybody said on LinkedIn. He is negotiating for

766
00:36:04,880 --> 00:36:08,200
Speaker 2: a big contract right, way more than he could have

767
00:36:08,239 --> 00:36:10,759
Speaker 2: taken several months ago, getting back to the horses, how

768
00:36:10,840 --> 00:36:15,880
Speaker 2: much do horses make when they win? Said the.

769
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Speaker 1: Most expensive horse race ever sold, a horse ever sold

770
00:36:20,960 --> 00:36:21,600
Speaker 1: was seventy million.

771
00:36:21,680 --> 00:36:23,280
Speaker 2: Okay, but when you win the purse?

772
00:36:23,400 --> 00:36:26,360
Speaker 1: Oh Jesus, I don't know. They win big ones, but

773
00:36:26,480 --> 00:36:28,839
Speaker 1: not that. I mean, I can't imagine seventy.

774
00:36:29,560 --> 00:36:34,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, what's the biggest race horses with horses?

775
00:36:34,480 --> 00:36:38,000
Speaker 1: Man? Right, it's all DNA, baby, You're paid for the DNA.

776
00:36:38,920 --> 00:36:39,839
Speaker 2: Right right.

777
00:36:40,680 --> 00:36:43,719
Speaker 3: You gotta stut them out exactly. We all know who

778
00:36:43,719 --> 00:36:47,799
Speaker 3: could forget Romantic Warrior, that Irish horse. According to Wikipedia,

779
00:36:48,120 --> 00:36:51,520
Speaker 3: uh won thirty two point four to five million dollars

780
00:36:52,200 --> 00:36:56,040
Speaker 3: in their illustrious career. So about half of this horse.

781
00:36:56,719 --> 00:36:58,959
Speaker 3: But you got a factor in the stud fees, don't you?

782
00:36:58,960 --> 00:36:59,640
Speaker 1: You do you do?

783
00:36:59,719 --> 00:36:59,839
Speaker 3: Oh?

784
00:37:00,200 --> 00:37:02,359
Speaker 1: Yo kitch? I mean I'm using this Zach Carper line.

785
00:37:02,360 --> 00:37:05,279
Speaker 1: But Yo Kitches, he's into the what do you call it?

786
00:37:05,360 --> 00:37:08,000
Speaker 1: Harness racing? Yes, yeah, that's a whole different world.

787
00:37:08,120 --> 00:37:10,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, Yo, Kicch's horses have never won anything.

788
00:37:10,640 --> 00:37:12,560
Speaker 1: How do you know they did? I did? Oh?

789
00:37:12,600 --> 00:37:14,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, he was, he was.

790
00:37:14,640 --> 00:37:16,279
Speaker 1: He was more happy about winning that race than he

791
00:37:16,360 --> 00:37:16,920
Speaker 1: was the NBA JA.

792
00:37:17,880 --> 00:37:20,600
Speaker 2: They won four hundred thousand years.

793
00:37:20,800 --> 00:37:22,880
Speaker 1: He's the love of the game, for the love of

794
00:37:22,920 --> 00:37:23,280
Speaker 1: the horse.

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00:37:23,960 --> 00:37:25,960
Speaker 2: I know. It is interesting, well how they break down

796
00:37:25,960 --> 00:37:27,640
Speaker 2: the rest of their team though, that is for sure.

797
00:37:27,760 --> 00:37:33,560
Speaker 1: They've lost him Hardaway Junior. They've signed Higas Jones, Marvin Begley,

798
00:37:33,600 --> 00:37:35,640
Speaker 1: the third I think is on the Nuggets, and then,

799
00:37:35,719 --> 00:37:38,280
Speaker 1: like I said, we're waiting on Watson and Spencer Jones.

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00:37:39,719 --> 00:37:43,200
Speaker 1: I mean that's it, isn't it. Yeah, there's not much

801
00:37:43,200 --> 00:37:44,240
Speaker 1: else happening.

802
00:37:45,360 --> 00:37:49,319
Speaker 3: And they're gonna want to keep their clean until this

803
00:37:49,800 --> 00:37:52,640
Speaker 3: eighty million dollars a year deal comes up. So I

804
00:37:53,360 --> 00:37:55,319
Speaker 3: don't know that the Nuggets have done the greatest job

805
00:37:55,360 --> 00:37:57,960
Speaker 3: of building during Yo Kitch's prime. They nailed it with

806
00:37:58,000 --> 00:38:01,400
Speaker 3: the Aaron Gordon trade. They screwed when Jamal Murray went

807
00:38:01,440 --> 00:38:03,799
Speaker 3: out with an injury that season after they traded for him.

808
00:38:03,840 --> 00:38:06,600
Speaker 3: That was their window really to win multiple championships, and

809
00:38:06,640 --> 00:38:08,880
Speaker 3: now they're just kind of chasing it and it feels

810
00:38:08,920 --> 00:38:12,000
Speaker 3: like obviously teams have passed them by. Talent is going

811
00:38:12,040 --> 00:38:15,680
Speaker 3: out the door in the last three off seasons for Denver,

812
00:38:16,080 --> 00:38:20,080
Speaker 3: and they're getting more expensive starting next year. So interesting

813
00:38:20,120 --> 00:38:21,360
Speaker 3: times I think for the Nuggets.

814
00:38:22,000 --> 00:38:23,759
Speaker 1: All Right, we got lots more still we get to

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Speaker 1: to get started now. Let there be goals this summer

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Speaker 1: on fuel. Not a lot of goals on Monday Night

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00:39:03,080 --> 00:39:06,640
Speaker 1: for the American squad. A lot of goals against, but

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Speaker 1: not a lot.

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Speaker 3: Four Yeah, I mean more goals than we'll be scored today.

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Speaker 1: That's true. There are no games on today.

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Speaker 3: But a disappointing end for the US side, playing their

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00:39:17,040 --> 00:39:20,520
Speaker 3: most timid and worst game against their bust opponent, who

833
00:39:20,600 --> 00:39:24,200
Speaker 3: punished them for literally every mistake they made, which were many.

834
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Speaker 3: Oh God, that goalkeeper was freezy. He had a brain freeze.

835
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Speaker 3: I think just kick it out of there, buddy.

836
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Speaker 2: What happened to his left leg because he stopped it,

837
00:39:35,120 --> 00:39:40,440
Speaker 2: stopped moving, stopped moving of what happened, kicked it, but

838
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Speaker 2: just kicked it. I know, America said the rest of

839
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Speaker 2: the world.

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Speaker 1: Yes, yes, they were, Yeah, and you know, fair enough,

841
00:39:48,760 --> 00:39:50,919
Speaker 1: fair enough. I mean I was at a I went

842
00:39:50,960 --> 00:39:53,200
Speaker 1: to Decatur to for a little bit of a watch

843
00:39:53,200 --> 00:39:56,640
Speaker 1: party for the USA game. Obviously Belgium scores first, Like, okay,

844
00:39:56,719 --> 00:40:01,520
Speaker 1: vibes pretty low that America scores, that's right, that was yeah,

845
00:40:01,800 --> 00:40:04,200
Speaker 1: so the place you four, Oh my god, we're right

846
00:40:04,239 --> 00:40:06,440
Speaker 1: back in this. Of course it's tied up. That lasted

847
00:40:06,440 --> 00:40:09,319
Speaker 1: what three minutes? I think they scored like basically.

848
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Speaker 3: Or in like sixty one seconds after it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it faster minutes, Okay, it felt like three minutes.

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Speaker 2: That's what the broadcasters said. It was. Yeah, our team's

851
00:40:19,680 --> 00:40:22,680
Speaker 2: most vulnerable after scoring, because that's what the broadcasters say.

852
00:40:22,840 --> 00:40:26,359
Speaker 2: That's a that's a football thing. You score, and then maybe, yeah, they.

853
00:40:26,239 --> 00:40:30,480
Speaker 1: Waste all their energy run into the corner, chasing each other, celebrations,

854
00:40:30,480 --> 00:40:32,080
Speaker 1: they're all gas that they line back up.

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00:40:32,320 --> 00:40:34,600
Speaker 3: Happened to Mexico too, right, like they tied their game

856
00:40:34,680 --> 00:40:37,959
Speaker 3: up one to one, and then gave up a goal

857
00:40:38,040 --> 00:40:41,920
Speaker 3: to England three minutes in. Yeah, right after that as well,

858
00:40:41,920 --> 00:40:42,640
Speaker 3: So maybe they're right.

859
00:40:43,719 --> 00:40:47,120
Speaker 1: Did you watch Argentina Egypt yesterday? Yeah?

860
00:40:47,120 --> 00:40:52,239
Speaker 2: What happened? What happened? Three goals and their down twelve.

861
00:40:51,640 --> 00:40:53,759
Speaker 1: Thirteen minutes or something. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, they were

862
00:40:54,320 --> 00:40:54,960
Speaker 1: like they were losing.

863
00:40:55,040 --> 00:40:55,520
Speaker 2: It was over.

864
00:40:56,160 --> 00:40:57,680
Speaker 1: It looked like it was over. It was like, Wow,

865
00:40:57,680 --> 00:41:00,000
Speaker 1: this is gonna be a huge upset, Egypt beating Argentina.

866
00:41:00,160 --> 00:41:03,040
Speaker 1: Messi gone, last World Cup appearance was here in Atlanta.

867
00:41:03,239 --> 00:41:06,040
Speaker 1: The game and then just like Messi got to work.

868
00:41:06,200 --> 00:41:08,520
Speaker 1: I think he set up one, scored the second on

869
00:41:08,560 --> 00:41:11,359
Speaker 1: a beauty third one. They scored right at the end,

870
00:41:11,360 --> 00:41:18,719
Speaker 1: and extra time and they won. It's awesome. But yeah,

871
00:41:18,800 --> 00:41:20,960
Speaker 1: no games on today, first time since the start of

872
00:41:20,960 --> 00:41:27,600
Speaker 1: the tournament. I guess, I guess. Okay, let's get into

873
00:41:27,800 --> 00:41:33,759
Speaker 1: fill in the blank. All right, a few topics here

874
00:41:33,800 --> 00:41:36,200
Speaker 1: from the NBA World fill in the blank fun. First one,

875
00:41:36,480 --> 00:41:40,719
Speaker 1: we alluded to it earlier. Celtics President of Basketball Operations

876
00:41:40,719 --> 00:41:44,080
Speaker 1: Brad Stevens says the team traded Jellen Brown to boost

877
00:41:44,360 --> 00:41:49,200
Speaker 1: roster flexibility and add draft capital, calling the franchise's forward

878
00:41:49,239 --> 00:41:53,160
Speaker 1: path more challenging than in recent seasons. Him and team

879
00:41:53,160 --> 00:41:57,359
Speaker 1: owner Bill Chisholm denied the move was financially motivated. That

880
00:41:57,400 --> 00:41:59,440
Speaker 1: definitely was brought up. But this was a long press

881
00:41:59,480 --> 00:42:02,200
Speaker 1: conference forty forty five minutes, so I want you to

882
00:42:02,200 --> 00:42:04,000
Speaker 1: fill in the blank. I'll start with u TK. Brad

883
00:42:04,040 --> 00:42:07,600
Speaker 1: stevens explanation for trading Jalen Brown.

884
00:42:07,680 --> 00:42:12,759
Speaker 3: Was too much cap, too much usage, which is weird

885
00:42:12,760 --> 00:42:14,920
Speaker 3: to me because Brad Stevens was hitting at hard on

886
00:42:14,960 --> 00:42:17,719
Speaker 3: the seventy percent of the cap figure. Talking about the

887
00:42:17,760 --> 00:42:20,920
Speaker 3: Celtics winning in twenty twenty four when they had a

888
00:42:21,000 --> 00:42:24,040
Speaker 3: completely stacked team and Tatum and Brown were making about

889
00:42:24,040 --> 00:42:26,680
Speaker 3: forty five percent of the cap, which allowed the Celtics

890
00:42:26,680 --> 00:42:28,759
Speaker 3: to go out and get guys like Drew Holliday. Chris

891
00:42:28,760 --> 00:42:32,040
Speaker 3: STAPs porzingis like they're bringing out Horford off the bench

892
00:42:32,160 --> 00:42:34,160
Speaker 3: right like they had an awesome team when they won

893
00:42:34,200 --> 00:42:38,720
Speaker 3: a championship. As the contracts got more expensive, having seventy

894
00:42:38,760 --> 00:42:41,120
Speaker 3: percent of the cap go to Brown and Tatum means

895
00:42:41,160 --> 00:42:43,319
Speaker 3: that you're losing out on guys like Drew Holliday, who's

896
00:42:43,360 --> 00:42:46,560
Speaker 3: now a Trailblazer. Chris that porzingis He's been on a

897
00:42:46,560 --> 00:42:48,400
Speaker 3: couple of teams, the Hawks and then the Warriors, so

898
00:42:48,440 --> 00:42:51,040
Speaker 3: you're seeing talent go out. So it's a little weird

899
00:42:51,040 --> 00:42:53,200
Speaker 3: to me that Bill Chishom's like, it's not financial. But

900
00:42:53,239 --> 00:42:55,399
Speaker 3: then Brad Stevens is coming on and telling us it's

901
00:42:55,400 --> 00:42:59,360
Speaker 3: about finances. I guess he's talking percentages and cap and

902
00:42:59,400 --> 00:43:01,960
Speaker 3: team building, but it all factors in together. And basically

903
00:43:01,960 --> 00:43:04,200
Speaker 3: what Brad Stevens was saying, we can't have all of

904
00:43:04,200 --> 00:43:06,120
Speaker 3: our money tied up in these top two players. So

905
00:43:06,160 --> 00:43:07,880
Speaker 3: then of course a Celtics reporter hit him back with

906
00:43:07,880 --> 00:43:09,600
Speaker 3: was saying, wait a second, Paul George makes it time

907
00:43:11,280 --> 00:43:13,640
Speaker 3: great follow up, you got me, but he makes it

908
00:43:13,640 --> 00:43:16,000
Speaker 3: for one last year. So I guess that's the thing.

909
00:43:16,040 --> 00:43:18,400
Speaker 3: They got these picks, they got the optionality.

910
00:43:18,440 --> 00:43:20,239
Speaker 1: And as we.

911
00:43:20,239 --> 00:43:22,320
Speaker 3: Said the day that the Jalen Brown trade went down,

912
00:43:22,520 --> 00:43:24,760
Speaker 3: these sort of things are going to become more common

913
00:43:24,840 --> 00:43:28,160
Speaker 3: where it becomes an albatross to sign your homegrown player,

914
00:43:28,200 --> 00:43:31,440
Speaker 3: which is why Brad Stevens was hinting at maybe teams

915
00:43:31,520 --> 00:43:35,160
Speaker 3: should get a discount on the cap figure for a

916
00:43:35,160 --> 00:43:37,800
Speaker 3: player like Jalen Brown, Like he gets all of his money,

917
00:43:37,800 --> 00:43:40,319
Speaker 3: he gets his thirty five percent number, but it only

918
00:43:40,360 --> 00:43:44,200
Speaker 3: counts as twenty seven, twenty eight, thirty percent of the cap,

919
00:43:44,280 --> 00:43:46,680
Speaker 3: so it makes sense to keep them around rather than

920
00:43:46,880 --> 00:43:48,960
Speaker 3: having to do the deal and then instantly being like.

921
00:43:49,320 --> 00:43:50,840
Speaker 1: Buyer's remorse, what are we going to do?

922
00:43:51,520 --> 00:43:53,879
Speaker 3: So I thought this was kind of interesting because it's

923
00:43:54,200 --> 00:43:57,040
Speaker 3: like the first look at the new era of the league,

924
00:43:57,520 --> 00:44:01,040
Speaker 3: a GM coming out and saying, look, the owners won

925
00:44:01,080 --> 00:44:03,360
Speaker 3: the CBA negotiations. We got a hard cap, and that

926
00:44:03,440 --> 00:44:05,520
Speaker 3: changes everything about the way we build teams. And that

927
00:44:05,800 --> 00:44:07,600
Speaker 3: changed the way we built this team.

928
00:44:08,200 --> 00:44:11,200
Speaker 2: Yeah. To me, he was talking in circles, sort of

929
00:44:11,200 --> 00:44:13,360
Speaker 2: saying that it wasn't about money, while also at the

930
00:44:13,360 --> 00:44:15,920
Speaker 2: same time saying it was about money. You know, he

931
00:44:15,960 --> 00:44:18,960
Speaker 2: did a good job of that. And so as as

932
00:44:18,960 --> 00:44:22,640
Speaker 2: you said, he said, quote, we may not be sitting

933
00:44:22,640 --> 00:44:24,759
Speaker 2: here if there was a rule in the CBA that said, guys,

934
00:44:24,800 --> 00:44:27,360
Speaker 2: you drafted and signed to thirty five percent super Max's

935
00:44:27,440 --> 00:44:31,520
Speaker 2: count for twenty five percent against the cap, very very

936
00:44:32,000 --> 00:44:36,360
Speaker 2: particular rule. You know, it was great for basketball geeks,

937
00:44:36,360 --> 00:44:39,560
Speaker 2: CBA geeks getting in on it, but you know the

938
00:44:39,600 --> 00:44:43,320
Speaker 2: lines where he was basically, you know, circling the wagons

939
00:44:43,320 --> 00:44:45,800
Speaker 2: saying Jason Tatum and Jaylen Brown were forty seven percent

940
00:44:45,840 --> 00:44:48,480
Speaker 2: of the cap when we won it, also saying the

941
00:44:48,520 --> 00:44:50,440
Speaker 2: path looked a little bit more challenging to me with

942
00:44:50,520 --> 00:44:52,800
Speaker 2: seventy percent of our cap in such a high usage

943
00:44:52,840 --> 00:44:56,000
Speaker 2: into two players. And then the question that got me.

944
00:44:56,080 --> 00:44:57,920
Speaker 2: So you would say the trade is primarily a move

945
00:44:57,960 --> 00:45:01,799
Speaker 2: to restructure the books. The answer is yeah, but he

946
00:45:01,840 --> 00:45:03,480
Speaker 2: said no. I would say it's a move to keep

947
00:45:03,520 --> 00:45:05,879
Speaker 2: us at a very competitive level and give us optionality

948
00:45:05,920 --> 00:45:06,560
Speaker 2: moving forward.

949
00:45:06,640 --> 00:45:10,799
Speaker 1: Well, optionality was a keyword. I wrote, optionality maxing is

950
00:45:10,840 --> 00:45:13,839
Speaker 1: what he was doing there. Though he was fairly transparent,

951
00:45:13,920 --> 00:45:16,080
Speaker 1: I will say, I mean he's good at this. That

952
00:45:16,120 --> 00:45:17,600
Speaker 1: was my big thing. I was like, damn, he's pretty

953
00:45:17,600 --> 00:45:19,960
Speaker 1: good at at selling you on at least the vision

954
00:45:20,080 --> 00:45:22,520
Speaker 1: or the reason for trading a very talented player in Jelen.

955
00:45:22,680 --> 00:45:22,839
Speaker 3: Right.

956
00:45:22,960 --> 00:45:25,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, and here we are Paul George two years the

957
00:45:25,520 --> 00:45:29,920
Speaker 2: one year plus option. So that's what you got instead

958
00:45:29,920 --> 00:45:31,840
Speaker 2: of instead of Jalen Brown had a lot of money,

959
00:45:32,000 --> 00:45:35,400
Speaker 2: different than what Philly's doing, different than what Dan Gilbert

960
00:45:35,480 --> 00:45:40,000
Speaker 2: is doing in Cleveland, you know, paying guys upfront. It's different,

961
00:45:40,600 --> 00:45:42,760
Speaker 2: and that's a lot to do with the private equity

962
00:45:42,840 --> 00:45:46,320
Speaker 2: in Boston, simple as that. But Brad did what he could,

963
00:45:46,520 --> 00:45:49,120
Speaker 2: you know, and when he referenced the two previous champions

964
00:45:50,160 --> 00:45:56,239
Speaker 2: in ok See and now the Knicks, that part kind

965
00:45:56,239 --> 00:45:58,280
Speaker 2: of was interesting because they're not paying you two guys

966
00:45:58,280 --> 00:46:02,200
Speaker 2: seventy percent, they're giving them optionality. As he said, So yeah,

967
00:46:02,280 --> 00:46:04,600
Speaker 2: he did a good job of it. But again that's

968
00:46:04,600 --> 00:46:07,040
Speaker 2: what it was about. Well also saying that's what it

969
00:46:07,320 --> 00:46:09,560
Speaker 2: wasn't about. But doing a good job.

970
00:46:09,640 --> 00:46:12,279
Speaker 1: He said a couple other things here, just to address them.

971
00:46:12,440 --> 00:46:15,840
Speaker 1: He admitted that advanced analytics played a role in the

972
00:46:15,880 --> 00:46:19,880
Speaker 1: decision making, but a limited one, he said, quote, I

973
00:46:19,880 --> 00:46:22,160
Speaker 1: would say that was a small piece of information because

974
00:46:22,160 --> 00:46:24,839
Speaker 1: remember that became a huge debate, this analytics and these

975
00:46:24,840 --> 00:46:28,200
Speaker 1: anonymous sources saying, oh, Jayleen Brown actually ranks quite low

976
00:46:28,239 --> 00:46:30,120
Speaker 1: on all these boards and all that. He also shot

977
00:46:30,160 --> 00:46:33,480
Speaker 1: down Stevens did some of the off court rumors that

978
00:46:33,640 --> 00:46:39,640
Speaker 1: surrounded the jail and trade the twitch stream, his thoughts

979
00:46:39,640 --> 00:46:42,240
Speaker 1: and confidence and self confidence and all that. He I thought,

980
00:46:42,440 --> 00:46:44,839
Speaker 1: at least in this play like big ed up Jillen Brown.

981
00:46:44,880 --> 00:46:46,600
Speaker 1: He's like, it's not because of any of that. It

982
00:46:46,719 --> 00:46:48,360
Speaker 1: was really like, you guys, are saying here, it's this

983
00:46:48,400 --> 00:46:51,080
Speaker 1: idea of having two max players in this news HEBA

984
00:46:51,239 --> 00:46:53,280
Speaker 1: or as the CBA is unfolded here in the second

985
00:46:53,280 --> 00:46:56,800
Speaker 1: Aprons and it's tough. That's their thinking. He also conceded

986
00:46:56,880 --> 00:46:59,439
Speaker 1: that if the exact same deal came from a team

987
00:46:59,480 --> 00:47:02,719
Speaker 1: out West, he would have gone with it instead, but

988
00:47:02,800 --> 00:47:04,560
Speaker 1: that's not the way it worked out. You know, this

989
00:47:04,680 --> 00:47:07,200
Speaker 1: idea of like you're trading him to a rival in

990
00:47:07,239 --> 00:47:09,400
Speaker 1: Philadelphia who just beat you by the way in the

991
00:47:09,400 --> 00:47:12,120
Speaker 1: first round a little weird. I guess he's sort of like, yeah,

992
00:47:12,320 --> 00:47:15,319
Speaker 1: not our not the ideal spot we'd want to send him.

993
00:47:15,360 --> 00:47:18,160
Speaker 1: But that was a fun Not a lot of trade offers.

994
00:47:17,960 --> 00:47:19,839
Speaker 2: Out there there was. That was a fun Jolen Brown

995
00:47:19,880 --> 00:47:23,240
Speaker 2: clip going around where he was talking to somebody saying Philadelphia,

996
00:47:23,880 --> 00:47:25,600
Speaker 2: of all the teams, Philadelphia.

997
00:47:27,239 --> 00:47:31,120
Speaker 1: Yeah. So the Sixers have ninety seven percent of their

998
00:47:31,160 --> 00:47:34,000
Speaker 1: projected cap tied up in Embid Brown and Maxi in

999
00:47:34,040 --> 00:47:36,880
Speaker 1: the twenty seven to twenty eight season, and the Celtics

1000
00:47:36,920 --> 00:47:40,480
Speaker 1: projected twenty seven to twenty eight cap eighty eight percent

1001
00:47:40,520 --> 00:47:43,760
Speaker 1: will be tied up to Tatum, Paul George, and Derek White.

1002
00:47:44,040 --> 00:47:46,080
Speaker 1: I just bring that up to contrast the two here,

1003
00:47:46,160 --> 00:47:48,920
Speaker 1: it's the sixers are really going like you were saying

1004
00:47:48,920 --> 00:47:51,480
Speaker 1: this idea of like, well, okay, Brad's saying that, that's

1005
00:47:51,480 --> 00:47:54,000
Speaker 1: all right, we'll give it a go, We'll try it out.

1006
00:47:55,280 --> 00:47:56,719
Speaker 1: And a part of it, you've already made your bed

1007
00:47:56,760 --> 00:47:58,880
Speaker 1: with the EMBIID contracts, like you, like, how do you

1008
00:47:58,920 --> 00:48:01,040
Speaker 1: even get off of that? So maybe just maybe you

1009
00:48:01,080 --> 00:48:03,960
Speaker 1: do just double down. As silly as that baby sounds,

1010
00:48:04,040 --> 00:48:07,040
Speaker 1: you sort of get the reasoning too. Yeah, next one,

1011
00:48:07,560 --> 00:48:10,360
Speaker 1: The Honest Trade became official on Monday, ending his thirteen

1012
00:48:10,400 --> 00:48:12,480
Speaker 1: year career with the Bucks. The Greek Freak released a

1013
00:48:12,560 --> 00:48:15,160
Speaker 1: video on his social media accounts where he said goodbye

1014
00:48:15,160 --> 00:48:18,000
Speaker 1: to Milwaukee expressed his love for the city. Quote, I

1015
00:48:18,040 --> 00:48:20,439
Speaker 1: hope bringing a trophy to the city meant something to them,

1016
00:48:20,480 --> 00:48:22,960
Speaker 1: because it meant so much to me. He said this

1017
00:48:23,040 --> 00:48:25,439
Speaker 1: during the video. A lot of nice parts in this task,

1018
00:48:25,480 --> 00:48:27,919
Speaker 1: and obviously the Bucks released a statement as well. Fill

1019
00:48:27,960 --> 00:48:32,400
Speaker 1: in the blank. Favorite part from Jannis's Goodbye to Milwaukee post.

1020
00:48:32,280 --> 00:48:35,200
Speaker 2: Was well, my favorite part was all the clips that

1021
00:48:35,239 --> 00:48:40,040
Speaker 2: were taken from his love for Milwaukee. It was filmed

1022
00:48:40,120 --> 00:48:43,560
Speaker 2: during an interview that was totally set up for pr

1023
00:48:43,680 --> 00:48:46,480
Speaker 2: and I loved watching that part because he was sitting

1024
00:48:46,480 --> 00:48:50,600
Speaker 2: with Jim Pashke, longtime Bucks play by play guy who

1025
00:48:50,640 --> 00:48:53,319
Speaker 2: he loves and Paschi loves him, but they didn't show

1026
00:48:53,400 --> 00:48:56,080
Speaker 2: Jimp Pashke. Once I went and watched the whole clip

1027
00:48:56,239 --> 00:48:59,560
Speaker 2: and saw that it was all pr and I troll

1028
00:48:59,760 --> 00:49:02,560
Speaker 2: to he did believe everything coming out of Yeah, it's

1029
00:49:02,640 --> 00:49:06,560
Speaker 2: his love of Milwaukee and how it's blue collar and

1030
00:49:06,600 --> 00:49:09,160
Speaker 2: everything that he went through. I will say I did

1031
00:49:09,200 --> 00:49:11,520
Speaker 2: also like some of the video clips of him working

1032
00:49:11,560 --> 00:49:14,359
Speaker 2: out as a kid doing a leg press where there

1033
00:49:14,400 --> 00:49:18,319
Speaker 2: was just one plate on either side. That's ninety pounds.

1034
00:49:18,920 --> 00:49:22,799
Speaker 2: He can he can lift ninety pounds with his head

1035
00:49:22,800 --> 00:49:24,520
Speaker 2: if he wanted to now like that would be like

1036
00:49:24,520 --> 00:49:28,319
Speaker 2: five hundred pound. Yeah, he was super So that was

1037
00:49:28,400 --> 00:49:32,040
Speaker 2: really fun. All the words meant something to me and

1038
00:49:32,120 --> 00:49:34,600
Speaker 2: they were real. They were real, and that was all

1039
00:49:34,640 --> 00:49:37,799
Speaker 2: part of the plan this year, giving this city one

1040
00:49:37,880 --> 00:49:41,319
Speaker 2: more full year of instead of gooomple playing basketball and

1041
00:49:41,360 --> 00:49:42,279
Speaker 2: now he's ready to go.

1042
00:49:42,600 --> 00:49:45,920
Speaker 1: Fortunately, that year wasn't great by both sides. I don't

1043
00:49:45,960 --> 00:49:48,400
Speaker 1: think it was not a story book ending, I would say.

1044
00:49:48,320 --> 00:49:51,520
Speaker 2: But he was there and he did say put me

1045
00:49:51,560 --> 00:49:54,160
Speaker 2: on the floor. I don't care if you want to

1046
00:49:54,200 --> 00:49:56,680
Speaker 2: make sure I'm healthy and I don't get injured to

1047
00:49:56,719 --> 00:49:59,920
Speaker 2: trade me and all that. But lots of good night,

1048
00:50:00,560 --> 00:50:03,320
Speaker 2: nice moments of him on the mic, but it was

1049
00:50:03,360 --> 00:50:08,200
Speaker 2: all Pierre And in the end, I guess you'll like

1050
00:50:08,239 --> 00:50:09,520
Speaker 2: the video if you're a Bucks fan.

1051
00:50:09,680 --> 00:50:13,200
Speaker 1: In the end, him leaving, you.

1052
00:50:13,160 --> 00:50:17,360
Speaker 2: Know the video the video specifically like, yeah, him leaving now.

1053
00:50:18,160 --> 00:50:21,120
Speaker 2: But as I said, he made sure that he put

1054
00:50:21,160 --> 00:50:25,040
Speaker 2: in every single moment of sweat and blood and tear

1055
00:50:25,120 --> 00:50:27,960
Speaker 2: into the season to say goodbye afterwards.

1056
00:50:28,000 --> 00:50:30,480
Speaker 1: You know, I don't think Giannis is coming back in

1057
00:50:30,520 --> 00:50:32,319
Speaker 1: his first game in the Miami Heat uniform and being

1058
00:50:32,360 --> 00:50:35,480
Speaker 1: booed in Milwaukee. He shouldn't be. I don't think so.

1059
00:50:36,000 --> 00:50:37,400
Speaker 3: I mean, I'm not a Bucks fan, but that's a

1060
00:50:37,400 --> 00:50:40,919
Speaker 3: weird season, man, Sea. He's giving thumbs down to the fans.

1061
00:50:40,920 --> 00:50:42,600
Speaker 3: I remember that, Yeah.

1062
00:50:42,600 --> 00:50:44,240
Speaker 2: When they were booming, when they were booming.

1063
00:50:44,320 --> 00:50:46,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, he did get boot at home during his

1064
00:50:46,600 --> 00:50:47,120
Speaker 3: last season.

1065
00:50:47,160 --> 00:50:48,680
Speaker 1: But the best part is seeing like young Jannis.

1066
00:50:48,719 --> 00:50:50,839
Speaker 3: This guy looked like a literal baby when he came

1067
00:50:50,840 --> 00:50:52,799
Speaker 3: into the league, probably couldn't even grow a mustache, and

1068
00:50:52,800 --> 00:50:55,000
Speaker 3: now he's got all these muscles. I also don't think

1069
00:50:55,040 --> 00:50:58,680
Speaker 3: of him as a guy whose draft pick was announced

1070
00:50:58,680 --> 00:51:01,720
Speaker 3: by David Stern. I that just seems too far away

1071
00:51:01,760 --> 00:51:04,120
Speaker 3: for me to remember it was Jannis, but I mean

1072
00:51:04,160 --> 00:51:06,600
Speaker 3: he was twenty thirteen drafts. I guess Stern left after

1073
00:51:06,600 --> 00:51:10,479
Speaker 3: the twenty fourteen season. Maybe during the twenty thirteen fourteen season.

1074
00:51:10,520 --> 00:51:13,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, they may have been his last one, yeah Stern. Yeah,

1075
00:51:13,080 --> 00:51:17,520
Speaker 2: because Silver was dealing with Donald Sterling in twenty fourteen. Yeah,

1076
00:51:17,560 --> 00:51:18,000
Speaker 2: it must have been.

1077
00:51:18,040 --> 00:51:19,120
Speaker 1: It must have been mid season.

1078
00:51:19,280 --> 00:51:21,759
Speaker 3: I think right that he left left in February or

1079
00:51:21,760 --> 00:51:24,359
Speaker 3: something like that. So yeah, I mean it's been around

1080
00:51:24,400 --> 00:51:26,920
Speaker 3: a long time. Yeah, that was the takeaway from me.

1081
00:51:26,960 --> 00:51:31,279
Speaker 2: When David Stern announced it. He said selected, Yeah, next

1082
00:51:32,239 --> 00:51:33,440
Speaker 2: Milakee Bucks Select.

1083
00:51:33,600 --> 00:51:35,279
Speaker 1: I thought he did a pretty good Yiannis though.

1084
00:51:35,440 --> 00:51:38,319
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, it was on that yeah, and not on

1085
00:51:38,440 --> 00:51:42,040
Speaker 2: the World Select. The Milwaukee Bucks has selected.

1086
00:51:43,160 --> 00:51:45,440
Speaker 1: Uh, And we learned that Jannis will wear number seven.

1087
00:51:45,760 --> 00:51:48,920
Speaker 1: Yeah with the Miami Heat, so he is switching it up.

1088
00:51:49,239 --> 00:51:51,600
Speaker 2: Why is he wearn' seven? I didn't notice that loves

1089
00:51:51,640 --> 00:51:52,240
Speaker 2: Kyle Lowry.

1090
00:51:55,480 --> 00:51:58,359
Speaker 1: I don't know if there's a reason that he's wearing

1091
00:51:58,440 --> 00:52:00,800
Speaker 1: number seven. And you can buy that jersey ready and

1092
00:52:00,880 --> 00:52:02,120
Speaker 1: I'm sure they'll say a lot of them.

1093
00:52:02,160 --> 00:52:03,960
Speaker 3: And I thought they said that they were working on

1094
00:52:04,000 --> 00:52:06,879
Speaker 3: a plan to have some sort of redress for people

1095
00:52:06,880 --> 00:52:09,800
Speaker 3: who have already ordered an onto thirty four jerseys.

1096
00:52:09,840 --> 00:52:12,279
Speaker 1: Oh I didn't see that because people were like right away,

1097
00:52:12,320 --> 00:52:13,160
Speaker 1: I guess so yeah.

1098
00:52:14,280 --> 00:52:18,279
Speaker 3: Can you can you name before Miami Heat whoever wore

1099
00:52:18,360 --> 00:52:20,879
Speaker 3: number thirty four? You could probably name one of them?

1100
00:52:20,920 --> 00:52:22,000
Speaker 3: Did Butler?

1101
00:52:22,120 --> 00:52:24,239
Speaker 2: No, the shack was thirty four?

1102
00:52:24,600 --> 00:52:26,560
Speaker 1: Thirty four thirty yeah.

1103
00:52:26,920 --> 00:52:27,240
Speaker 2: Seven.

1104
00:52:27,719 --> 00:52:31,040
Speaker 1: There's a lot of sevens, a lot of thirty fours.

1105
00:52:31,080 --> 00:52:32,480
Speaker 1: One of them is dragis probably huge.

1106
00:52:32,560 --> 00:52:33,600
Speaker 2: Name No.

1107
00:52:33,680 --> 00:52:36,799
Speaker 1: Thirty four? No, I know, I just want drag.

1108
00:52:36,840 --> 00:52:39,239
Speaker 3: Its was seven okay, dragis lowry khalil Ware are the

1109
00:52:39,280 --> 00:52:40,640
Speaker 3: most recent recent sevens?

1110
00:52:40,640 --> 00:52:43,680
Speaker 1: Okay, thirty four thirty four on the Heat you said

1111
00:52:43,680 --> 00:52:45,480
Speaker 1: there's only a hand. I think you could only.

1112
00:52:45,320 --> 00:52:48,920
Speaker 3: Get one Doliac Nope, I bet he was forty two.

1113
00:52:49,200 --> 00:52:53,279
Speaker 3: Now he's fifty one. Apparently cool number it just one guy.

1114
00:52:53,320 --> 00:52:55,279
Speaker 3: He's a legend, he's a Hall of Famer. He hit

1115
00:52:56,120 --> 00:52:58,160
Speaker 3: the biggest shot in history, that's right.

1116
00:52:58,960 --> 00:52:59,280
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1117
00:53:00,080 --> 00:53:02,480
Speaker 3: And Eddie Curry, Willie Burton, Todd Mitchell.

1118
00:53:03,040 --> 00:53:05,359
Speaker 1: Wow, he's scored fifty he did.

1119
00:53:05,760 --> 00:53:08,879
Speaker 3: He did good. You mentioned Milwaukee's a blue collar city.

1120
00:53:08,920 --> 00:53:11,680
Speaker 3: I agree, but I think every city is a blue

1121
00:53:11,680 --> 00:53:16,200
Speaker 3: collar city in this kind of a video. M the

1122
00:53:16,200 --> 00:53:18,040
Speaker 3: only city that you do not call a blue collar

1123
00:53:18,080 --> 00:53:23,360
Speaker 3: city has lost Los Angeles literally, Memphis a blue collar city.

1124
00:53:23,719 --> 00:53:24,160
Speaker 1: New York.

1125
00:53:24,200 --> 00:53:26,200
Speaker 3: They love putting on their hard hat and going to work.

1126
00:53:26,280 --> 00:53:29,319
Speaker 3: Check out my boots Toronto. Even Lowry was alluding to

1127
00:53:29,480 --> 00:53:33,240
Speaker 3: collar city. Yeah, San Francisco, blue collar city.

1128
00:53:33,480 --> 00:53:34,319
Speaker 1: That one's pretty good.

1129
00:53:34,400 --> 00:53:36,960
Speaker 2: Oh, come on, blue collar we go up to our

1130
00:53:37,040 --> 00:53:39,640
Speaker 2: tech office. Hearts.

1131
00:53:39,920 --> 00:53:42,240
Speaker 1: That's just the easiest thing to say about the city.

1132
00:53:42,360 --> 00:53:45,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, for sure, you believe it.

1133
00:53:45,840 --> 00:53:49,520
Speaker 1: With Milwaukee, you should have called it cream city. That's true.

1134
00:53:49,600 --> 00:53:53,280
Speaker 2: And it's believable with theis because he went from literally

1135
00:53:53,360 --> 00:53:57,799
Speaker 2: like pressing one one plate aside. It's pretty different now

1136
00:53:58,200 --> 00:53:58,840
Speaker 2: for the big.

1137
00:53:58,680 --> 00:54:03,799
Speaker 1: Guy, next one here. According to ESPN's Ramona Shelburne, the

1138
00:54:03,840 --> 00:54:06,840
Speaker 1: way the Lakers approached the free agency of Lebron James

1139
00:54:06,920 --> 00:54:10,320
Speaker 1: was the deciding factor in why Lebron decided to leave

1140
00:54:10,360 --> 00:54:15,200
Speaker 1: the franchise this offseason. Again ESPN article, it's sort of

1141
00:54:15,239 --> 00:54:17,600
Speaker 1: a now you tell me article a little bit, but

1142
00:54:18,000 --> 00:54:20,560
Speaker 1: Trey fill in the blank, ESPN's why Lebron broke up

1143
00:54:20,560 --> 00:54:21,200
Speaker 1: with the Lakers.

1144
00:54:21,239 --> 00:54:25,320
Speaker 3: First article was confirmation that the hand theory is correct.

1145
00:54:25,480 --> 00:54:27,640
Speaker 3: Lebron broke up with the Lakers before the Lakers could

1146
00:54:27,640 --> 00:54:30,759
Speaker 3: break up with Lebron. Basically, he's been around the league

1147
00:54:30,800 --> 00:54:31,760
Speaker 3: for such a long time.

1148
00:54:32,160 --> 00:54:32,960
Speaker 1: He's got.

1149
00:54:34,239 --> 00:54:37,239
Speaker 3: An agent in Rich Paul, who is connected with everybody.

1150
00:54:37,600 --> 00:54:40,520
Speaker 3: He knows the way that the cap works, and he

1151
00:54:40,600 --> 00:54:43,000
Speaker 3: knew it was going to be Cap Space or Lebron,

1152
00:54:43,239 --> 00:54:45,320
Speaker 3: and if it was going to be Lebron, they wanted

1153
00:54:45,360 --> 00:54:47,400
Speaker 3: him to take a discount. And Lebron said, showed me

1154
00:54:47,400 --> 00:54:49,960
Speaker 3: some plans, and they never showed him plans. So he said, fine,

1155
00:54:50,000 --> 00:54:52,399
Speaker 3: I'm leaving, but not until you signed my son.

1156
00:54:53,160 --> 00:54:55,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, I guarantee of a couple.

1157
00:54:55,160 --> 00:54:57,560
Speaker 3: Of million bucks and I'm out of here. And this

1158
00:54:57,760 --> 00:54:59,600
Speaker 3: was not very surprising at all to me.

1159
00:55:00,040 --> 00:55:02,800
Speaker 1: I did write my phone in the bank exactly as expected,

1160
00:55:02,840 --> 00:55:05,000
Speaker 1: and this is sort of what we expected and thought

1161
00:55:05,000 --> 00:55:05,640
Speaker 1: with this article.

1162
00:55:06,320 --> 00:55:08,600
Speaker 2: But you but he didn't answer the first phone call.

1163
00:55:09,440 --> 00:55:11,960
Speaker 2: Apparently he said he was unavailable.

1164
00:55:12,080 --> 00:55:12,640
Speaker 1: No Zoom.

1165
00:55:13,680 --> 00:55:16,280
Speaker 2: Well, that was the shocking part to me. Speaking of Zoom,

1166
00:55:16,640 --> 00:55:19,680
Speaker 2: was that Rich Paul wanted to use a selfie stick

1167
00:55:20,440 --> 00:55:23,520
Speaker 2: while at Wimbledon to record his podcast.

1168
00:55:23,480 --> 00:55:26,000
Speaker 1: Weird That's how it started.

1169
00:55:26,200 --> 00:55:31,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, still shocking that selfie sticks are that useful,

1170
00:55:31,680 --> 00:55:34,560
Speaker 2: but it's true they are useful. He wanted to sit

1171
00:55:34,640 --> 00:55:38,080
Speaker 2: there in the stands, essentially holding a selfie stick, recording

1172
00:55:38,160 --> 00:55:41,879
Speaker 2: himself during the podcast. But in Wimbledon it's you can't

1173
00:55:41,920 --> 00:55:44,239
Speaker 2: take calls and there's no work around, even for an

1174
00:55:44,280 --> 00:55:47,200
Speaker 2: agent to go around the word calls. You know, a

1175
00:55:47,280 --> 00:55:53,799
Speaker 2: zoom meeting podcast doesn't apply. I guess. So yeah, just

1176
00:55:53,920 --> 00:55:58,000
Speaker 2: questions about where did he film it because they don't

1177
00:55:58,000 --> 00:55:59,920
Speaker 2: do it live, so why not just go in your

1178
00:56:00,040 --> 00:56:03,920
Speaker 2: hotel room or whatever? And I guess he did. But

1179
00:56:03,960 --> 00:56:07,200
Speaker 2: that was the surprising part to me. Selfie sticks are useful.

1180
00:56:07,320 --> 00:56:09,920
Speaker 2: Like you probably see people run on your in your

1181
00:56:09,960 --> 00:56:13,200
Speaker 2: algorithm and they have their hand out filming themselves, but

1182
00:56:13,200 --> 00:56:15,759
Speaker 2: a selfie stick is better and then you just put

1183
00:56:15,760 --> 00:56:17,439
Speaker 2: it in your belt and just keep going. Selfie sticks

1184
00:56:17,480 --> 00:56:20,160
Speaker 2: are still useful even since Leelis used it a decade ago.

1185
00:56:20,280 --> 00:56:21,640
Speaker 2: I think they're still useful.

1186
00:56:22,719 --> 00:56:26,399
Speaker 1: Gives you that I feel like, yeah, yeah, maybe for sure,

1187
00:56:26,560 --> 00:56:29,319
Speaker 1: because now, if anything, I guess they are a version

1188
00:56:29,360 --> 00:56:32,080
Speaker 1: of a selfie stick like the one that like disappears,

1189
00:56:32,160 --> 00:56:33,839
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, how do you describe it?

1190
00:56:34,560 --> 00:56:37,040
Speaker 1: JD jump in and helped me here, But like, I

1191
00:56:37,040 --> 00:56:38,600
Speaker 1: don't know, I just see a lot of footage now

1192
00:56:38,600 --> 00:56:41,000
Speaker 1: where it's like it's your phone or your camera is

1193
00:56:41,040 --> 00:56:44,080
Speaker 1: obviously on a stick of some sort. Okay, but the stick.

1194
00:56:44,120 --> 00:56:47,239
Speaker 1: You don't see the sticks. Yeah, three sixty, thank you,

1195
00:56:47,280 --> 00:56:51,760
Speaker 1: three sixty camera. Yeah, it's pretty trippy. It was pretty cool. Yeah,

1196
00:56:52,000 --> 00:56:56,480
Speaker 1: how's that doing that? It's the technology.

1197
00:56:56,920 --> 00:57:01,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, well it's she's some three sixties, so it the

1198
00:57:01,080 --> 00:57:02,960
Speaker 4: frame sort of you can cancel it out.

1199
00:57:03,200 --> 00:57:04,919
Speaker 1: Oh okay, it's pretty neat.

1200
00:57:05,280 --> 00:57:07,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that's cool.

1201
00:57:07,480 --> 00:57:10,600
Speaker 1: My favorite part from this article let me just read

1202
00:57:10,600 --> 00:57:13,760
Speaker 1: it to you. Quote. This is from Ramona Shelburne on ESPN.

1203
00:57:14,120 --> 00:57:18,360
Speaker 1: Customized pillows and blankets were designed and presented to Austin Reeves.

1204
00:57:19,040 --> 00:57:22,880
Speaker 1: Steaks were ordered in his favorite country music was played.

1205
00:57:24,120 --> 00:57:26,560
Speaker 1: Soon afterward, he agreed to a new four year, one

1206
00:57:26,600 --> 00:57:29,320
Speaker 1: hundred and eighty five million dollar deal Lebron James didn't

1207
00:57:29,320 --> 00:57:32,160
Speaker 1: want any of that. After the season, sources close to

1208
00:57:32,240 --> 00:57:35,120
Speaker 1: James said the most important factor in him resigning would

1209
00:57:35,120 --> 00:57:38,760
Speaker 1: be how the Lakers approached him. But what a hilarious

1210
00:57:39,360 --> 00:57:42,640
Speaker 1: counter there. So that's how they got Austin Reeves customized

1211
00:57:42,760 --> 00:57:47,760
Speaker 1: blankets and pillows, a steak. How's Austin Reeves like his steak?

1212
00:57:47,840 --> 00:57:50,360
Speaker 1: Something told me well done for some reason. And then

1213
00:57:51,320 --> 00:57:53,960
Speaker 1: on country music and he was like, baby, where do

1214
00:57:54,000 --> 00:57:57,400
Speaker 1: I sign? Run? Didn't want that. He's done this before, Tas.

1215
00:57:57,680 --> 00:57:59,480
Speaker 1: That's how you were approaching all the whole thing is

1216
00:57:59,480 --> 00:58:02,400
Speaker 1: he already knew he was gone, yeah.

1217
00:58:01,920 --> 00:58:04,320
Speaker 3: Like, that's that's what this is, not hopping on as

1218
00:58:04,360 --> 00:58:04,600
Speaker 3: a zoo.

1219
00:58:04,800 --> 00:58:07,760
Speaker 1: And so then it becomes how do we how do

1220
00:58:07,880 --> 00:58:10,680
Speaker 1: we get relay this message to the public so everybody

1221
00:58:10,720 --> 00:58:13,640
Speaker 1: comes out, Okay, you know what I mean that I

1222
00:58:13,760 --> 00:58:15,880
Speaker 1: look like I chose to leave first, but you don't

1223
00:58:15,920 --> 00:58:18,240
Speaker 1: look bad. You've got your plan or building around Luca.

1224
00:58:18,320 --> 00:58:18,480
Speaker 2: You know.

1225
00:58:18,520 --> 00:58:21,520
Speaker 1: That was the massaging of the talk about PR. This

1226
00:58:21,640 --> 00:58:22,760
Speaker 1: is the ultimate PR.

1227
00:58:22,920 --> 00:58:25,800
Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, last week it was Lebron is informing the

1228
00:58:25,840 --> 00:58:27,920
Speaker 2: team that he's leaving early so he can go out

1229
00:58:27,960 --> 00:58:32,040
Speaker 2: and sign guys. This one Ramona's first line about him

1230
00:58:32,040 --> 00:58:34,120
Speaker 2: not answering the first call. A little bit on the

1231
00:58:34,160 --> 00:58:37,880
Speaker 2: other side, Lebron, you know, I wanted to do his

1232
00:58:37,920 --> 00:58:41,960
Speaker 2: thing and was unavailable for that call. So yeah, everybody's

1233
00:58:42,000 --> 00:58:45,960
Speaker 2: happy now, though I did. If you watched Austin Rivers

1234
00:58:46,200 --> 00:58:48,560
Speaker 2: go off on the Jeffatigue podcast. I know this is

1235
00:58:48,600 --> 00:58:52,040
Speaker 2: a little different here, but Austin Rivers went off about

1236
00:58:52,880 --> 00:58:55,320
Speaker 2: our man Rich Paul doing a podcast in general.

1237
00:58:55,240 --> 00:58:58,160
Speaker 1: Well it is why when you start to think, and

1238
00:58:58,560 --> 00:59:01,480
Speaker 1: especially when he's commenting on other guy's money and so

1239
00:59:01,640 --> 00:59:04,880
Speaker 1: that's that's strange. Yeah, that's what Teague said.

1240
00:59:05,040 --> 00:59:07,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, if he's a good giving you insights into the

1241
00:59:07,440 --> 00:59:10,880
Speaker 3: way being an agent works, the way negotiations work, that's

1242
00:59:10,920 --> 00:59:13,440
Speaker 3: one thing. But like talking about what teams who have

1243
00:59:13,600 --> 00:59:15,920
Speaker 3: his clients on it should be doing, is I think

1244
00:59:15,960 --> 00:59:17,240
Speaker 3: Jeff Teage said out of pocket.

1245
00:59:17,360 --> 00:59:21,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I agree. Didn't he talk about Austin Reeves?

1246
00:59:21,560 --> 00:59:21,720
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1247
00:59:21,800 --> 00:59:23,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, so you got trade them for Jared Jackson g Yeah.

1248
00:59:23,960 --> 00:59:26,560
Speaker 1: So it's like what Yeah, no.

1249
00:59:26,400 --> 00:59:29,320
Speaker 2: It's interesting, weird, and that he's the only one essentially

1250
00:59:29,400 --> 00:59:34,480
Speaker 2: doing a podcast, the only agent really I imagine anyway.

1251
00:59:34,400 --> 00:59:37,640
Speaker 1: Game over Man, game over, Game Over, that's the same

1252
00:59:37,680 --> 00:59:38,919
Speaker 1: in the podcast. Yeah.

1253
00:59:39,160 --> 00:59:43,000
Speaker 3: I also liked, uh, that's that's the Rich Paul podcast. Yeah,

1254
00:59:43,000 --> 00:59:45,320
Speaker 3: what's the Austin Rivers called? Oh I don't know, Yeah, same.

1255
00:59:45,440 --> 00:59:48,160
Speaker 1: I got no idea running the running point. Somebody's somebody's

1256
00:59:48,200 --> 00:59:51,440
Speaker 1: his name that I don't know. I also liked the

1257
00:59:51,840 --> 00:59:53,200
Speaker 1: off guard off guard maybe guard.

1258
00:59:53,360 --> 00:59:56,320
Speaker 3: Yeah. I like the detail that the Caves have been doing,

1259
00:59:56,360 --> 00:59:59,600
Speaker 3: like their ten year anniversary trip for winning the championship.

1260
00:59:59,600 --> 01:00:03,400
Speaker 3: They this golf trip with like Lebron, Tristan Thompson j R. Smith,

1261
01:00:03,440 --> 01:00:06,600
Speaker 3: all these guys, and they have matching jackets that say

1262
01:00:06,840 --> 01:00:07,560
Speaker 3: chosen family.

1263
01:00:07,760 --> 01:00:08,920
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1264
01:00:09,280 --> 01:00:14,320
Speaker 3: Even millionaires like to make a matching clothing.

1265
01:00:14,000 --> 01:00:16,360
Speaker 1: For a pro trip. You know, Well, you got a

1266
01:00:16,360 --> 01:00:19,120
Speaker 1: bro trip coming up. That's exactly right. Do you have

1267
01:00:19,160 --> 01:00:20,440
Speaker 1: any clothing items?

1268
01:00:20,440 --> 01:00:24,720
Speaker 3: Well? Our clothing item is two guys every year have

1269
01:00:24,800 --> 01:00:27,320
Speaker 3: to buy each other the most brutal polo shirt they

1270
01:00:27,360 --> 01:00:28,520
Speaker 3: can find for the next year.

1271
01:00:28,840 --> 01:00:30,040
Speaker 1: Oh, because you do a golf trip.

1272
01:00:30,120 --> 01:00:33,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, golf trip. It's a Devil's Hog. Okay, so

1273
01:00:33,440 --> 01:00:36,880
Speaker 3: we're formerly Devil's Had now Devil's Hog. Serious, Well, we've

1274
01:00:36,880 --> 01:00:37,520
Speaker 3: rebranded it.

1275
01:00:39,000 --> 01:00:42,240
Speaker 1: Okay, Now have you ever bought the shirt? So I've

1276
01:00:42,280 --> 01:00:43,120
Speaker 1: never been the shirt buyer.

1277
01:00:43,360 --> 01:00:46,800
Speaker 3: This could be my year. I think Tommy Porol actually

1278
01:00:46,880 --> 01:00:48,840
Speaker 3: is one of the shirt briers buyers this year, as

1279
01:00:48,880 --> 01:00:51,520
Speaker 3: well as Bryce and uh Bryce is the weirdest guy

1280
01:00:51,560 --> 01:00:51,840
Speaker 3: we know.

1281
01:00:52,120 --> 01:00:54,280
Speaker 1: So this should be a nice brutal shirt.

1282
01:00:54,360 --> 01:00:56,960
Speaker 2: Nice, excellent. So how weird is it going to get?

1283
01:00:57,040 --> 01:00:58,960
Speaker 2: Will anybody pull out their hog.

1284
01:01:03,360 --> 01:01:05,080
Speaker 1: Golf course? I'm being quite honest.

1285
01:01:05,120 --> 01:01:07,760
Speaker 3: The Manngina is more popular in this friend group.

1286
01:01:13,720 --> 01:01:14,240
Speaker 2: Interesting?

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Speaker 1: Interesting, So is it out? I don't know that's true? Workaround?

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Speaker 1: I got one more. I got one more. Las Vegas

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Speaker 1: Summer League begins on Thursday. That's tomorrow, and per usual,

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Speaker 1: we're getting a matchup of the top two picks in

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Speaker 1: the most recent NBA draft. Immediately, AJ debantsa Darren Peterson

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Speaker 1: nine pm on ESPN. We won't be there. We are

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Speaker 1: not going to summer league this summer. He's got to

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01:01:40,120 --> 01:01:43,760
Speaker 1: show his man China to his friends. He's traveling anyway.

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Speaker 1: We were not going to summer league, but I did

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Speaker 1: want you to fill in the blank. Number one thing

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Speaker 1: you're gonna miss about Vegas Summer League is you can say,

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Speaker 1: uh no.

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Speaker 2: I was gonna go ahead. Listen. The dry heat is

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01:01:58,040 --> 01:02:03,919
Speaker 2: what I'll miss. Oh gosh, it's so damp here where

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Speaker 2: we live.

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Speaker 1: Call me Eric because it's damp here. Did he play

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01:02:09,320 --> 01:02:09,760
Speaker 1: for the Heat?

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01:02:10,080 --> 01:02:15,760
Speaker 2: Oh? Yeah, yeah, it's sec An eighty percent humidity every

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01:02:15,760 --> 01:02:19,120
Speaker 2: single day. Give me the extra ten degrees of heat

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01:02:19,600 --> 01:02:23,960
Speaker 2: minus fifty percent of that humidity. I'm laughing, I'm laughing.

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01:02:24,040 --> 01:02:27,280
Speaker 2: But how about that. Darren Peterson looking good already?

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01:02:27,360 --> 01:02:28,600
Speaker 1: Oh my god, he's pretty good.

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01:02:28,680 --> 01:02:29,400
Speaker 2: He's good.

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01:02:29,880 --> 01:02:32,120
Speaker 1: He looks good. And Utah looking good. Right, Well, we'll

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Speaker 1: talk about more Summer League stuff on Friday's podcast. By

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Speaker 1: the way, I've seen some people saying, why are you

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01:02:36,520 --> 01:02:40,120
Speaker 1: talking about Summer League? You know, the California Classic, the

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01:02:40,160 --> 01:02:42,439
Speaker 1: Salt Lake City Classic. We don't usually dive into those,

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01:02:42,480 --> 01:02:45,040
Speaker 1: but we're watching the highlights and Peterson and even Boozer

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01:02:45,080 --> 01:02:47,240
Speaker 1: and the guys that have played a few games. They

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Speaker 1: look pretty solid so far. Number one thing you're gonna

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Speaker 1: miss about Vegas Summer.

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Speaker 3: League, Well, the number one things I'm really going to

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01:02:52,160 --> 01:02:54,280
Speaker 3: miss are the large group dinners in the Bamboo Boys.

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01:02:54,400 --> 01:02:57,720
Speaker 3: Of course, like by far, I will say, the marqu

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01:02:57,760 --> 01:03:01,200
Speaker 3: he buzz is very exciting, like that first big game

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01:03:01,400 --> 01:03:04,360
Speaker 3: usually between one and two. I'm thinking specifically back to

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01:03:04,400 --> 01:03:07,000
Speaker 3: the Wemby year that was awesome, but like the Lonzo

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01:03:07,080 --> 01:03:09,560
Speaker 3: Ball year was really cool. When there are big rookies

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01:03:09,600 --> 01:03:12,920
Speaker 3: coming in, it's very exciting. So debansa versus Peterson should

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01:03:12,920 --> 01:03:15,880
Speaker 3: be awesome. And I'm really gonna miss seeing the one

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01:03:15,920 --> 01:03:20,800
Speaker 3: free throw for two. The g League rule that they're

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01:03:20,800 --> 01:03:23,680
Speaker 3: testing out in Summer League should make those games just fly.

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Speaker 1: Oh my god, I would think, so, JD. Do you

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01:03:26,080 --> 01:03:28,480
Speaker 1: have an answer for this? Is it the Dinners? Is

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Speaker 1: it the Bamboo Dinner?

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Speaker 4: Is this the Bamboo Boys? It's the pageantry of Summer League, honestly.

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Speaker 4: And the heat, I mean, the dry heat is nicer

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01:03:36,840 --> 01:03:38,080
Speaker 4: than the wet heat, that's for sure.

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01:03:38,160 --> 01:03:39,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, still hot as shit.

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Speaker 4: No bugs, no bugs, which is what I really really.

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Speaker 1: That is nice, great point. It's a good point.

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01:03:46,080 --> 01:03:47,880
Speaker 2: It's a good name for the podcast out there.

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01:03:48,440 --> 01:03:53,360
Speaker 1: No bugs. But are you really missing us? Not going to.

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01:03:55,120 --> 01:03:55,680
Speaker 2: Not really?

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01:03:56,360 --> 01:04:00,880
Speaker 4: Yeah's we'll save our pennies for the in Manchester.

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01:04:01,640 --> 01:04:03,960
Speaker 2: There you go, there you go too, the cities.

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01:04:04,040 --> 01:04:05,640
Speaker 1: It didn't feel like we were there last year, but

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01:04:05,680 --> 01:04:09,960
Speaker 1: we were, I know, Cooper, Yeah, but yeah, it's strange.

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01:04:10,000 --> 01:04:11,160
Speaker 1: Doesn't feel like it was last year.

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01:04:11,400 --> 01:04:12,640
Speaker 4: That feels like five years ago.

1348
01:04:12,720 --> 01:04:14,280
Speaker 1: I know, so long ago.

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01:04:14,360 --> 01:04:14,720
Speaker 2: But yeah.

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Speaker 1: My answer was the Bamboo Boys. For those that don't know,

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01:04:16,880 --> 01:04:21,880
Speaker 1: the Bamboo Boys are daily safe to say, daily gathering

1352
01:04:22,160 --> 01:04:27,200
Speaker 1: at the pool started at the Bamboo Pool at Cosmo.

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01:04:27,240 --> 01:04:31,240
Speaker 1: Thank you. I caught on fire. Then I hope it's okay.

1354
01:04:31,240 --> 01:04:33,440
Speaker 1: I hope it's back. But we just call that for

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01:04:33,520 --> 01:04:37,439
Speaker 1: any pool now, any gathering. The text goes out, Hey,

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01:04:37,480 --> 01:04:40,480
Speaker 1: bamboo boys, let's go see at one o'clock. All right,

1357
01:04:40,760 --> 01:04:42,760
Speaker 1: pull it up for a bit. Yep, that's always fun.

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01:04:43,640 --> 01:04:43,840
Speaker 2: Yep.

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Speaker 3: Well, in the New York Times that the Las Vegas

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01:04:47,880 --> 01:04:51,640
Speaker 3: Buffet is dying circa twenty nineteen, there was like seventy

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01:04:52,320 --> 01:04:55,960
Speaker 3: of these gigantic buffets on the strip. Now they're down

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Speaker 3: to six.

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01:04:57,080 --> 01:04:59,800
Speaker 1: Wow. I mean we never were we were ever a buffet,

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01:04:59,840 --> 01:05:01,800
Speaker 1: but the buffet boys never really existed.

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01:05:01,840 --> 01:05:03,920
Speaker 3: Now it never existed. I do remember. I think we

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01:05:03,960 --> 01:05:06,760
Speaker 3: went once. We went to Wicked Spoon, and it was

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01:05:06,800 --> 01:05:11,800
Speaker 3: when Lebron signed with the Cavaliers. I think fourteen one.

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Speaker 1: I think you're right. That's the only I can remember

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01:05:15,920 --> 01:05:18,560
Speaker 1: going together. Yeah, Wicked Spoon.

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01:05:18,720 --> 01:05:20,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, we never went to him. And I was reading

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01:05:20,280 --> 01:05:22,760
Speaker 3: this New York Times article and the author is like

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01:05:22,840 --> 01:05:25,040
Speaker 3: going to a buffet and getting stuff, and I was like, man,

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01:05:25,160 --> 01:05:26,040
Speaker 3: we should have done that.

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Speaker 1: We should have done that. I should call all these

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01:05:28,160 --> 01:05:31,960
Speaker 1: crowd legs. It's like ninety bucks a plate. Yeah, that's well,

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01:05:32,000 --> 01:05:33,640
Speaker 1: so I don't have much of an appetite, but it's

1377
01:05:35,560 --> 01:05:39,760
Speaker 1: I can barely eat. It's the weirdest thing. Never hungry,

1378
01:05:40,360 --> 01:05:41,160
Speaker 1: you're just thirsty.

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Speaker 2: There's lots of good food out there.

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Speaker 1: For good meals.

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01:05:46,240 --> 01:05:46,640
Speaker 2: In Vegas.

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Speaker 1: We were in buffets, but restaurants missed that duck. I

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01:05:51,240 --> 01:05:54,200
Speaker 1: think about that duck. We were all day man thirty two.

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Speaker 1: I'm good, We'll take thirty ship. We should go. We

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01:05:57,120 --> 01:05:59,000
Speaker 1: should go, just just go to eat.

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01:05:59,480 --> 01:06:03,200
Speaker 2: Technical foul, let's.

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01:06:03,080 --> 01:06:04,800
Speaker 1: Call it there. Well, fill in the blank fun Hope

1388
01:06:04,840 --> 01:06:07,080
Speaker 1: you played along there in the stream team play along

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01:06:07,120 --> 01:06:10,200
Speaker 1: in the comments Spotify comments as well. Fill in the

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Speaker 1: blanks that are talking about Brad Stevens explanation about trading

1391
01:06:13,400 --> 01:06:18,000
Speaker 1: Joan Brown. You're honest is goodbye the Lebron article on ESPN.

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Speaker 1: And if you're not going to Vegas, number one thing

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01:06:21,120 --> 01:06:23,240
Speaker 1: you're gonna miss if you've been there before, hopefully your

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01:06:23,240 --> 01:06:26,400
Speaker 1: answer is to us, because we did do live shows

1395
01:06:26,400 --> 01:06:28,280
Speaker 1: when we were there and always had had a fun time.

1396
01:06:28,360 --> 01:06:31,640
Speaker 1: I did see randomly. I think I got a photo memory.

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01:06:31,640 --> 01:06:36,040
Speaker 1: It must have been when Maddio joined us. Uh, more

1398
01:06:36,080 --> 01:06:38,880
Speaker 1: recent on stage, and he brought the visors. We had

1399
01:06:38,880 --> 01:06:41,640
Speaker 1: like the poker visors on. He had like a Vegas

1400
01:06:41,640 --> 01:06:44,760
Speaker 1: shirt on the funny look funny. At least there's like

1401
01:06:44,760 --> 01:06:48,040
Speaker 1: a behind us is a still from the hangover where

1402
01:06:48,080 --> 01:06:50,880
Speaker 1: they're in the element. It's been one of our questions

1403
01:06:50,880 --> 01:06:52,680
Speaker 1: we were talking about. I think had some good times,

1404
01:06:52,840 --> 01:06:55,720
Speaker 1: good times, good times. Indeed. All right, well we're gonna

1405
01:06:55,760 --> 01:06:58,880
Speaker 1: take a break here back on Friday. That's the plan

1406
01:06:59,200 --> 01:07:03,480
Speaker 1: with the drop podcast, rapid fire fun anything else that

1407
01:07:03,480 --> 01:07:07,400
Speaker 1: happens here in the free agency cycle. And yeah, maybe

1408
01:07:07,400 --> 01:07:09,080
Speaker 1: we'll hit the beach too. So get your questions at

1409
01:07:09,120 --> 01:07:11,880
Speaker 1: No Dunks, Inc. That's i NC at gmail dot com.

1410
01:07:11,960 --> 01:07:14,360
Speaker 1: Until then, Clipper bros. You heard it here first, have

1411
01:07:14,440 --> 01:07:15,680
Speaker 1: a great time, turn up.

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Speaker 3: Love you guys, awesome.

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01:07:17,280 --> 01:07:21,800
Speaker 2: Thanks for joining us. And remember Spain's winning this thing

1414
01:07:21,920 --> 01:07:25,560
Speaker 2: right France? Okay, both look awesome.

1415
01:07:25,680 --> 01:07:28,880
Speaker 1: Argentina, who I just want to say something. They got

1416
01:07:28,880 --> 01:07:31,360
Speaker 1: a nice path, man. I'll tell you that it's broken

1417
01:07:31,400 --> 01:07:32,680
Speaker 1: well for them, rigged.

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01:07:33,520 --> 01:07:38,640
Speaker 3: Maybe they rigged it by putting the greatest soccer player

1419
01:07:38,640 --> 01:07:40,360
Speaker 3: of all time on this team.

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01:07:41,160 --> 01:07:43,680
Speaker 1: That's very very good. We'll talk a little World Cup

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Speaker 1: probably on Friday, see you. Then embrace the day people