1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:04,040 Speaker 1: First Date is follow up powered by the Advocates Injury 2 00:00:04,080 --> 00:00:06,680 Speaker 1: Attorneys online at Advocateslaw dot com. 3 00:00:06,960 --> 00:00:09,040 Speaker 2: Lorena is on the phone today for a First Date 4 00:00:09,080 --> 00:00:11,360 Speaker 2: follow up. She's getting ghosted by a dude named Ben, 5 00:00:11,440 --> 00:00:12,879 Speaker 2: so in a few minutes we'll call him and see 6 00:00:12,880 --> 00:00:14,440 Speaker 2: if he'll tell us why he's ghosting her and maybe 7 00:00:14,480 --> 00:00:16,599 Speaker 2: get her another date. But first, Serena, how long has 8 00:00:16,640 --> 00:00:17,680 Speaker 2: it been since you heard from Ben? 9 00:00:18,320 --> 00:00:21,440 Speaker 3: It's uh, it's been about three weeks. 10 00:00:22,320 --> 00:00:24,680 Speaker 4: Have you been trying to reach out to him? 11 00:00:24,800 --> 00:00:26,160 Speaker 5: Yeah? I have been. 12 00:00:26,760 --> 00:00:28,120 Speaker 2: Was the last time I tried to reach out to him? 13 00:00:29,320 --> 00:00:30,320 Speaker 2: It was this morning? 14 00:00:31,080 --> 00:00:31,560 Speaker 4: Okay? 15 00:00:31,680 --> 00:00:32,240 Speaker 2: Okay? 16 00:00:32,440 --> 00:00:33,240 Speaker 4: And still nothing? 17 00:00:33,760 --> 00:00:37,320 Speaker 3: Guys, Yeah, you know, times are desperate. What can I say? 18 00:00:37,400 --> 00:00:39,559 Speaker 3: But you know I haven't heard I haven't heard back 19 00:00:39,560 --> 00:00:40,160 Speaker 3: from him yet. 20 00:00:40,320 --> 00:00:41,440 Speaker 2: Have you been blowing him up? 21 00:00:42,280 --> 00:00:46,840 Speaker 3: I've tried not to, but honestly, like I haven't really 22 00:00:46,840 --> 00:00:48,760 Speaker 3: been able to stop thinking about him. 23 00:00:48,680 --> 00:00:49,760 Speaker 5: For the last three weeks. 24 00:00:50,000 --> 00:00:51,400 Speaker 2: Okay, Well, it must have been a really good date 25 00:00:51,400 --> 00:00:52,839 Speaker 2: if you haven't been able to stop thinking about him 26 00:00:52,840 --> 00:00:54,880 Speaker 2: and you still want to get in contact with him. 27 00:00:55,320 --> 00:00:59,120 Speaker 3: It was I mean, it was pretty like traditional, but 28 00:00:59,200 --> 00:01:03,040 Speaker 3: I really like it because it didn't feel like the apps, 29 00:01:03,200 --> 00:01:06,200 Speaker 3: you know, like it was really nice. Like our plan 30 00:01:06,440 --> 00:01:09,160 Speaker 3: was dinner and drinks and then maybe a little mini golf. 31 00:01:09,600 --> 00:01:11,520 Speaker 4: Okay, and is that what you did? 32 00:01:13,240 --> 00:01:15,720 Speaker 3: Well, we did dinner and drinks, but we didn't quite 33 00:01:15,720 --> 00:01:17,720 Speaker 3: make it to the mini golf part. 34 00:01:20,040 --> 00:01:20,280 Speaker 5: Yeah. 35 00:01:20,640 --> 00:01:24,640 Speaker 3: Probably stuff we didn't want to do in public. You know, 36 00:01:30,680 --> 00:01:32,520 Speaker 3: we definitely hooked up. 37 00:01:33,120 --> 00:01:35,759 Speaker 2: Okay, So you didn't make it to the mini golf 38 00:01:35,800 --> 00:01:37,640 Speaker 2: because you guys made it to do something else. 39 00:01:38,440 --> 00:01:42,360 Speaker 4: Yeah, gotch Were you at his place or yours? 40 00:01:42,760 --> 00:01:43,000 Speaker 2: Oh? 41 00:01:43,040 --> 00:01:43,919 Speaker 5: We were at mine? 42 00:01:44,680 --> 00:01:45,760 Speaker 4: So what happened there? 43 00:01:46,880 --> 00:01:48,880 Speaker 5: I think everything was fine. 44 00:01:48,920 --> 00:01:52,640 Speaker 3: I mean I had a great time, and you know, 45 00:01:52,720 --> 00:01:55,200 Speaker 3: I don't think it was my place. I try to 46 00:01:55,280 --> 00:01:58,720 Speaker 3: keep things pretty clean. But you know, I don't know, 47 00:01:58,760 --> 00:02:02,200 Speaker 3: he was maybe bit of a germophobe. 48 00:02:02,600 --> 00:02:02,960 Speaker 5: I don't know. 49 00:02:03,000 --> 00:02:06,000 Speaker 3: I'm just worried that maybe the hookup was bad for 50 00:02:06,080 --> 00:02:09,119 Speaker 3: him or maybe I mean, maybe he has a girlfriend. 51 00:02:09,120 --> 00:02:11,120 Speaker 5: I don't know. There's my mind has been kind of 52 00:02:11,160 --> 00:02:11,800 Speaker 5: running wild. 53 00:02:12,400 --> 00:02:14,080 Speaker 1: Did it seem like that was just kind of one 54 00:02:14,120 --> 00:02:16,160 Speaker 1: of those things like leading up to you guys going out, 55 00:02:16,240 --> 00:02:17,800 Speaker 1: that it was just kind of be maybe more of 56 00:02:17,840 --> 00:02:19,920 Speaker 1: a you know, one time deal. 57 00:02:20,919 --> 00:02:24,840 Speaker 3: I didn't get that feeling, but maybe I was reading 58 00:02:24,840 --> 00:02:25,359 Speaker 3: into it. 59 00:02:25,880 --> 00:02:28,280 Speaker 2: How did you leave things? Like? Did he stay the night? 60 00:02:28,360 --> 00:02:31,760 Speaker 2: Did he leave right after high five? Fist bomb? 61 00:02:33,320 --> 00:02:35,640 Speaker 5: I mean, I don't know. It was fine. 62 00:02:35,720 --> 00:02:38,280 Speaker 3: I mean I didn't think we left things weird, like 63 00:02:38,320 --> 00:02:39,480 Speaker 3: he did stay over? 64 00:02:39,560 --> 00:02:41,440 Speaker 5: He left the next morning, and. 65 00:02:41,440 --> 00:02:44,480 Speaker 2: He left normal. He didn't like, you know, wake up 66 00:02:44,520 --> 00:02:46,720 Speaker 2: and then try to sneak out or rush out like 67 00:02:46,800 --> 00:02:48,000 Speaker 2: he didn't want to talk to you. 68 00:02:48,040 --> 00:02:49,840 Speaker 5: No, don't, I don't think so. 69 00:02:50,800 --> 00:02:52,760 Speaker 4: Did he stay by? Were you still asleep? 70 00:02:53,960 --> 00:02:56,799 Speaker 3: It all seemed very I don't know how else to 71 00:02:56,840 --> 00:02:59,679 Speaker 3: describe it. It's like we clicked so well and I 72 00:02:59,720 --> 00:03:03,440 Speaker 3: didn't get any weird feelings. And when he left he 73 00:03:03,480 --> 00:03:07,160 Speaker 3: said bye. He didn't he didn't fist bump me or anything. 74 00:03:08,080 --> 00:03:09,239 Speaker 2: And you've been trying to get ahold of him a 75 00:03:09,240 --> 00:03:11,080 Speaker 2: lot for three weeks. Has he responded to anything. 76 00:03:12,240 --> 00:03:13,679 Speaker 5: No, I haven't heard from him at all. 77 00:03:14,040 --> 00:03:16,480 Speaker 2: That's not a good sign. Okay, we'll try to figure 78 00:03:16,520 --> 00:03:18,440 Speaker 2: it out for you. Then we'll play a song, come back, 79 00:03:18,480 --> 00:03:19,720 Speaker 2: and then call him and see if he'll tell us 80 00:03:19,720 --> 00:03:21,920 Speaker 2: why he's ghosting you, and hopefully get you another date 81 00:03:21,960 --> 00:03:25,040 Speaker 2: if you still want. Okay, Okay, all right, Well play 82 00:03:25,080 --> 00:03:28,000 Speaker 2: a song, Come Back, get your first day follow up next. 83 00:03:36,600 --> 00:03:38,040 Speaker 2: Right in the middle of our first date follow up, 84 00:03:38,080 --> 00:03:40,200 Speaker 2: if you're just joining us, Serena is on the phone 85 00:03:40,280 --> 00:03:42,440 Speaker 2: and she's getting ghosted by a guy named Vince. We're 86 00:03:42,480 --> 00:03:44,480 Speaker 2: about to call him and see if we can get 87 00:03:44,520 --> 00:03:46,440 Speaker 2: him to tell us why he's ghosting her and maybe 88 00:03:46,440 --> 00:03:48,480 Speaker 2: get her another date. But first, Serena, why don't you 89 00:03:48,520 --> 00:03:49,640 Speaker 2: catch us up on your situation. 90 00:03:51,000 --> 00:03:55,240 Speaker 3: So we had a fantastic date. Everything went well, the 91 00:03:55,320 --> 00:03:59,520 Speaker 3: chemistry was amazing. We had all the pieces, emotional and 92 00:04:00,160 --> 00:04:04,160 Speaker 3: a goal. But I haven't heard from him for about 93 00:04:04,160 --> 00:04:05,720 Speaker 3: three weeks now, and. 94 00:04:05,720 --> 00:04:07,760 Speaker 2: You have no idea why he hasn't answered anything since 95 00:04:07,760 --> 00:04:10,320 Speaker 2: he left her house that morning. No, I don't know 96 00:04:10,680 --> 00:04:12,160 Speaker 2: how many times have you tried to get ahold of him? 97 00:04:12,200 --> 00:04:12,880 Speaker 2: Just like ballpark? 98 00:04:15,560 --> 00:04:17,440 Speaker 3: I mean too many times, I guess if I had 99 00:04:17,480 --> 00:04:19,760 Speaker 3: to put a number on it, you know. 100 00:04:19,920 --> 00:04:23,160 Speaker 4: Where he lost his phone for three weeks though? To 101 00:04:23,160 --> 00:04:26,320 Speaker 4: ignore somebody that much, though, I mean, if you had 102 00:04:26,360 --> 00:04:28,440 Speaker 4: a great time, you would find a way to get. 103 00:04:28,279 --> 00:04:30,440 Speaker 2: Here, Yeah, you would. All right, Well, let's see, let's 104 00:04:30,440 --> 00:04:31,200 Speaker 2: see if we get a hotel. 105 00:04:31,240 --> 00:04:33,559 Speaker 6: So you're ready for us to call him, Yeah, let's 106 00:04:33,560 --> 00:04:46,920 Speaker 6: do it okay. 107 00:04:47,440 --> 00:04:49,239 Speaker 2: Hello, Hi man, speak to Ben. Please. 108 00:04:50,080 --> 00:04:51,360 Speaker 7: This is Ben Ben. 109 00:04:51,400 --> 00:04:53,040 Speaker 2: Hey man, how are you? My name is Jewbell. I'm 110 00:04:53,040 --> 00:04:55,040 Speaker 2: calling from a radio show. It's called The Jebel Show. 111 00:04:55,160 --> 00:04:57,120 Speaker 4: Hi Ben, I'm Nina also on the show. Hi, and 112 00:04:57,120 --> 00:04:57,719 Speaker 4: I'm Victoria. 113 00:04:58,560 --> 00:05:00,640 Speaker 7: Hi. What's up? Good? 114 00:05:00,680 --> 00:05:01,080 Speaker 2: How are you? 115 00:05:02,200 --> 00:05:06,240 Speaker 7: I'm doing great? Just hanging out awesome. 116 00:05:06,279 --> 00:05:07,960 Speaker 2: Have you ever listened to the show before? 117 00:05:09,040 --> 00:05:13,239 Speaker 7: I can't say that I really have. What is just about? 118 00:05:13,360 --> 00:05:15,480 Speaker 2: No worries? We do a segment on our show it's 119 00:05:15,480 --> 00:05:17,280 Speaker 2: called the first Date follow Up. What that is is 120 00:05:17,320 --> 00:05:18,839 Speaker 2: if where you go out on a day with someone 121 00:05:18,920 --> 00:05:21,680 Speaker 2: and you end up ghosting them, they can email us 122 00:05:21,839 --> 00:05:23,600 Speaker 2: to get you on the phone and ask why you're 123 00:05:23,640 --> 00:05:26,840 Speaker 2: being ghosted. So we got an email about you from 124 00:05:26,880 --> 00:05:31,479 Speaker 2: one of our listeners. I see, okay, you have any 125 00:05:31,520 --> 00:05:33,080 Speaker 2: idea who might be trying to get a hold of 126 00:05:33,120 --> 00:05:34,200 Speaker 2: you that you've been ghosting? 127 00:05:35,600 --> 00:05:37,080 Speaker 7: Yeah? I have an idea. 128 00:05:37,600 --> 00:05:38,560 Speaker 4: Who do you think it is? 129 00:05:39,640 --> 00:05:41,480 Speaker 7: Holly? Is it Serena? 130 00:05:42,200 --> 00:05:44,240 Speaker 2: You are one hundred percent correct? Congratulations. We don't have 131 00:05:44,279 --> 00:05:47,240 Speaker 2: anything to give you for being correct, but yes, it's Serena. 132 00:05:47,440 --> 00:05:49,440 Speaker 2: She told us about your date. She said that she 133 00:05:49,520 --> 00:05:52,320 Speaker 2: thought things went really well and great actually, and said 134 00:05:52,320 --> 00:05:53,960 Speaker 2: she liked you a lot, but she's confused because you 135 00:05:54,000 --> 00:05:55,640 Speaker 2: haven't talked to her for like three weeks and she's 136 00:05:55,680 --> 00:05:58,039 Speaker 2: wondering what the reason is. 137 00:05:58,080 --> 00:05:59,720 Speaker 4: Did you lose your phone? 138 00:06:00,120 --> 00:06:03,960 Speaker 7: No, I shouldn't lose my phone. I mean the day 139 00:06:04,080 --> 00:06:06,800 Speaker 7: was really good. You know, we just had great conversation, 140 00:06:07,440 --> 00:06:08,240 Speaker 7: clearly connected. 141 00:06:09,080 --> 00:06:10,960 Speaker 2: Okay, it sounds like a good reason to go somebody 142 00:06:10,960 --> 00:06:11,159 Speaker 2: to me. 143 00:06:13,560 --> 00:06:17,840 Speaker 8: Well, I mean, to be honest, it was the uh hands, 144 00:06:17,960 --> 00:06:20,560 Speaker 8: she has really wet hands. 145 00:06:23,080 --> 00:06:24,440 Speaker 2: She has wet hands. 146 00:06:25,200 --> 00:06:26,880 Speaker 8: Yeah, I you know, it's just a kind of a 147 00:06:26,920 --> 00:06:29,600 Speaker 8: personal pet peeve of mine and I just like, I 148 00:06:29,640 --> 00:06:31,599 Speaker 8: don't know, a little bit of a termophobe. 149 00:06:31,680 --> 00:06:34,080 Speaker 7: I like, keep eating clean and nice. 150 00:06:34,000 --> 00:06:36,120 Speaker 2: And like how wet are the hands? 151 00:06:36,160 --> 00:06:36,400 Speaker 6: Though? 152 00:06:36,560 --> 00:06:37,800 Speaker 2: Like where you would go to one? 153 00:06:38,880 --> 00:06:40,800 Speaker 7: I mean it was it was pretty moist. 154 00:06:40,839 --> 00:06:43,280 Speaker 8: I mean I remember one time she h came and 155 00:06:43,320 --> 00:06:45,960 Speaker 8: like caressed my face, and I swear to god, I 156 00:06:45,960 --> 00:06:48,080 Speaker 8: thought it was it was like a dog looking. 157 00:06:49,839 --> 00:06:52,839 Speaker 7: My eyes closed. Nothing against her, you know. 158 00:06:53,120 --> 00:06:55,320 Speaker 8: I guess that that's sometimes like a thing and a condition, 159 00:06:55,480 --> 00:06:57,760 Speaker 8: but I don't know, it's just not really for me. 160 00:06:57,800 --> 00:07:00,679 Speaker 8: I figured it would just be easier to say away from. 161 00:07:00,480 --> 00:07:02,320 Speaker 4: That It's like, what if it was just nerves. 162 00:07:02,360 --> 00:07:04,360 Speaker 1: It's the first time she spend time with you, so 163 00:07:04,400 --> 00:07:06,680 Speaker 1: she got nervous and maybe a little anxiety and got 164 00:07:06,839 --> 00:07:07,640 Speaker 1: sweaty palms. 165 00:07:07,680 --> 00:07:10,080 Speaker 4: That's supposed to be cute. That's a compliment. She was 166 00:07:10,120 --> 00:07:11,880 Speaker 4: so into you made her palm sweaty. 167 00:07:13,040 --> 00:07:13,600 Speaker 7: That's true. 168 00:07:13,720 --> 00:07:16,720 Speaker 8: But I don't know, it's just I guess I didn't 169 00:07:16,720 --> 00:07:18,040 Speaker 8: really want to continue that. 170 00:07:18,120 --> 00:07:20,400 Speaker 7: After that, I just couldn't get the hands out of 171 00:07:20,400 --> 00:07:20,920 Speaker 7: my head. 172 00:07:21,040 --> 00:07:23,240 Speaker 1: And you can treat that, though, But you can treat that. 173 00:07:23,280 --> 00:07:25,480 Speaker 1: You can get botox in your hands to make it stop. Well, 174 00:07:25,560 --> 00:07:27,840 Speaker 1: if you really like somebody, there's ways to get around 175 00:07:27,880 --> 00:07:28,760 Speaker 1: sweaty hands. 176 00:07:29,160 --> 00:07:32,120 Speaker 7: Well, I'm not sure we can do. I mean some 177 00:07:32,160 --> 00:07:36,240 Speaker 7: people maybe, but I don't know if we can't. She can't. Okay, 178 00:07:36,800 --> 00:07:37,560 Speaker 7: it was almost. 179 00:07:37,320 --> 00:07:40,440 Speaker 8: Supernatural, how much moisture was coming out of it. I 180 00:07:40,600 --> 00:07:45,200 Speaker 8: was very almost concerned about it. I mean, I've shicken 181 00:07:45,240 --> 00:07:47,160 Speaker 8: hands with people. Yes, I'm a bit of a German folk, 182 00:07:47,240 --> 00:07:50,360 Speaker 8: but I mean this was like on a whole other level, and. 183 00:07:50,280 --> 00:07:54,200 Speaker 2: You just can't. You can't overlook the sweaty palms. 184 00:07:54,240 --> 00:07:56,600 Speaker 8: Honestly, No, I mean I'm a bit of a particular guy, 185 00:07:56,640 --> 00:08:00,040 Speaker 8: and we all have our things, you know, so. 186 00:07:59,080 --> 00:08:01,480 Speaker 2: So you're not might be a sweaty palm person, you 187 00:08:01,480 --> 00:08:03,000 Speaker 2: know what I mean. It's like, hey, I'm I'm I 188 00:08:03,160 --> 00:08:06,240 Speaker 2: like but I like sweaty palms. It's not you. 189 00:08:06,920 --> 00:08:07,800 Speaker 7: Yeah, exactly. 190 00:08:07,960 --> 00:08:11,000 Speaker 2: You know, thank you for telling us. Appreciate it, and 191 00:08:11,360 --> 00:08:13,760 Speaker 2: I will let you know now though, that Serena is 192 00:08:13,800 --> 00:08:16,400 Speaker 2: actually on the phone listening and wants to talk to you. 193 00:08:17,480 --> 00:08:22,640 Speaker 5: Oh my gosh, Oh my god. I I'm so sorry. 194 00:08:22,760 --> 00:08:23,120 Speaker 4: I know. 195 00:08:23,440 --> 00:08:27,520 Speaker 3: I know that my hands get super sweaty, but only 196 00:08:27,640 --> 00:08:28,360 Speaker 3: when I'm nervous. 197 00:08:28,400 --> 00:08:31,000 Speaker 5: I promise they're not like that all the time. I promise. 198 00:08:31,120 --> 00:08:34,400 Speaker 3: I was just I was so excited and really nervous. 199 00:08:34,960 --> 00:08:36,200 Speaker 7: Yeah, I'm sorry. 200 00:08:36,200 --> 00:08:38,880 Speaker 8: I I kind of feel bad now just not even 201 00:08:38,960 --> 00:08:40,280 Speaker 8: talking to you about it. 202 00:08:40,679 --> 00:08:43,400 Speaker 2: Well, that's an awkward conversation to have, Like I feel 203 00:08:43,440 --> 00:08:46,360 Speaker 2: like that would be a weird thing to ask somebody 204 00:08:46,400 --> 00:08:47,120 Speaker 2: on a first date. 205 00:08:47,440 --> 00:08:47,640 Speaker 7: You know. 206 00:08:48,280 --> 00:08:50,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, I have to say, like, I totally get it, 207 00:08:50,960 --> 00:08:55,840 Speaker 3: and I mean I really like you and I thought 208 00:08:55,840 --> 00:08:56,920 Speaker 3: we had a lot of fun. I mean, you could 209 00:08:57,080 --> 00:08:58,760 Speaker 3: you could tell how much I like you. You could 210 00:08:58,800 --> 00:08:59,480 Speaker 3: feel it when I. 211 00:08:59,440 --> 00:09:05,120 Speaker 1: Touched you, how much I love It's actually really sweet. 212 00:09:05,280 --> 00:09:07,640 Speaker 8: You know, I guess I never I never was able 213 00:09:07,679 --> 00:09:10,760 Speaker 8: to take that as a compliment, but you know, to 214 00:09:11,080 --> 00:09:14,800 Speaker 8: how your horizons brought and you know, I never really 215 00:09:14,840 --> 00:09:18,320 Speaker 8: thought that, uh, sweaty Palms could be refined for me. 216 00:09:18,400 --> 00:09:21,560 Speaker 8: But you know, I really had an amazing time on 217 00:09:21,760 --> 00:09:22,920 Speaker 8: our date too. 218 00:09:22,720 --> 00:09:25,280 Speaker 7: And you know I really thought about great connection. 219 00:09:26,960 --> 00:09:30,080 Speaker 2: Look at that, Serena. You're helping change his whole outlook 220 00:09:30,120 --> 00:09:32,719 Speaker 2: on sweaty Palms. When would you like to go out 221 00:09:32,720 --> 00:09:34,120 Speaker 2: with Serena again? We'll pay for it. 222 00:09:35,200 --> 00:09:37,600 Speaker 7: Yeah I would, I would, honestly. 223 00:09:38,480 --> 00:09:41,680 Speaker 1: Another lesson here. Three weeks does not mean it's over. 224 00:09:42,080 --> 00:09:44,599 Speaker 1: You just keep calling until you get ahold of Thatson. 225 00:09:44,920 --> 00:09:46,560 Speaker 2: Congratulations, Serena. 226 00:09:47,720 --> 00:09:51,000 Speaker 3: We'll figure something out for the sweaty Palms. Maybe, I 227 00:09:51,040 --> 00:09:51,400 Speaker 3: don't know. 228 00:09:51,880 --> 00:09:53,800 Speaker 5: Maybe next time we'll just look up in the shower. 229 00:09:56,200 --> 00:09:59,880 Speaker 7: I know what. That sounds really great? All right? 230 00:10:00,200 --> 00:10:02,680 Speaker 2: Congratulations. 231 00:10:03,320 --> 00:10:05,040 Speaker 5: Jubile's first date follow up