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Speaker 1: with Ben Maller starts right now. Everywhere. Welcome into the

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Speaker 1: Friday Friday edition of the Fifth Hour with me Ben Maller,

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Speaker 1: flying solo today. It's Friday, Friday Friday. Because four hours

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Speaker 1: deep in the north Woods. And we thank you for

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Speaker 1: supporting the overnight show and finding this podcast. Tell a friend,

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Speaker 1: word of mouth. We have no advertising budget. You will

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Speaker 1: there's a few feud of food i'ms but nothing, nothing massive,

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Speaker 1: nothing massive. So on the podcast this week, we've talked

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Speaker 1: to professional athletes, we have talked to random figures, some politically.

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Speaker 1: going to go back, way back in the history of

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Speaker 1: the Ben Mallor Show to another one of my radio friends.

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Speaker 1: on our show, Danny G. Radio. He returned that Cooper

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430
00:24:16,400 --> 00:24:19,520
Speaker 1: but it's also it also takes years off your life.

431
00:24:20,520 --> 00:24:22,960
Speaker 1: You know, there's a price to be paid for it,

432
00:24:23,800 --> 00:24:27,639
Speaker 1: whether that's stress or ulcers or you know, like athletes

433
00:24:27,720 --> 00:24:29,959
Speaker 1: where they take some years off their life because of

434
00:24:29,960 --> 00:24:32,920
Speaker 1: what they do physically. Uh, there's something to be said

435
00:24:32,960 --> 00:24:36,520
Speaker 1: for having a peaceful life where you make enough money

436
00:24:36,560 --> 00:24:39,159
Speaker 1: to be comfortable, but you're not stressed out of your

437
00:24:39,160 --> 00:24:41,560
Speaker 1: mind and you you actually have good balance in a

438
00:24:41,640 --> 00:24:45,040
Speaker 1: life away from your job. So that that's what I've

439
00:24:45,040 --> 00:24:47,840
Speaker 1: been trying to figure out right now. After Clay Show

440
00:24:47,960 --> 00:24:50,959
Speaker 1: left and the new show took over, they brought in

441
00:24:51,000 --> 00:24:55,320
Speaker 1: their producer that they had on Sundays for Jonas and

442
00:24:55,400 --> 00:24:59,800
Speaker 1: Brady Quinn. Their longtime producer lead To Lap was able

443
00:24:59,840 --> 00:25:01,679
Speaker 1: to come along for the ride with them so that

444
00:25:01,720 --> 00:25:05,840
Speaker 1: they could start a brand new show fresh, and you know,

445
00:25:06,440 --> 00:25:09,360
Speaker 1: I have feelings about that where I'm like, well, I

446
00:25:09,400 --> 00:25:11,760
Speaker 1: did the hard work and I didn't do anything wrong,

447
00:25:11,840 --> 00:25:14,520
Speaker 1: So personally, I don't think I should have been moved.

448
00:25:15,280 --> 00:25:17,720
Speaker 1: But at the same time, it's radio. That kind of

449
00:25:17,720 --> 00:25:22,040
Speaker 1: stuff happens. So for me now, the challenges to find

450
00:25:22,040 --> 00:25:25,320
Speaker 1: the next Ben Mallar show or the next OutKick the coverage,

451
00:25:25,720 --> 00:25:28,080
Speaker 1: those shows don't come along every day, and that's the

452
00:25:28,119 --> 00:25:31,119
Speaker 1: hard part is, as you know, radio, a lot of

453
00:25:31,119 --> 00:25:33,720
Speaker 1: times it's a waiting game and you have to wait

454
00:25:33,760 --> 00:25:38,160
Speaker 1: it out and then things fall into place and then

455
00:25:38,200 --> 00:25:42,359
Speaker 1: the next the next journey begins. So right now, I

456
00:25:42,480 --> 00:25:45,159
Speaker 1: have just been hustling as much as I can to

457
00:25:45,240 --> 00:25:47,800
Speaker 1: pay the bills, and thank god I had a little

458
00:25:47,840 --> 00:25:50,040
Speaker 1: bit of money in the bank, and of course Clay

459
00:25:50,080 --> 00:25:56,160
Speaker 1: gave me of his Fox Corporation sale. I'm sure, I'm

460
00:25:56,160 --> 00:25:58,359
Speaker 1: sure he's still that was awesome. I mean I could

461
00:25:58,359 --> 00:26:00,520
Speaker 1: live off that money for years. I gave you some

462
00:26:00,520 --> 00:26:03,280
Speaker 1: of the limball money that he got, right and you know,

463
00:26:03,480 --> 00:26:05,919
Speaker 1: want of Russ one of the old gold microphones that

464
00:26:06,000 --> 00:26:09,000
Speaker 1: Rush left behind, you know, and all all that stuff.

465
00:26:09,080 --> 00:26:10,720
Speaker 1: But uh yeah, I just want to be you know,

466
00:26:10,840 --> 00:26:13,360
Speaker 1: we're at the point you're around my age day. We're similar,

467
00:26:13,400 --> 00:26:14,960
Speaker 1: and I'm like, I want to get to the point

468
00:26:15,000 --> 00:26:18,679
Speaker 1: where I don't have to worry about this payment and

469
00:26:18,760 --> 00:26:21,640
Speaker 1: that payment. You know, I want to be and I'm

470
00:26:21,680 --> 00:26:23,720
Speaker 1: still I'm still chasing a lot of stuff, you know,

471
00:26:23,720 --> 00:26:25,720
Speaker 1: I'm still chasing a lot of stuff financially. So I

472
00:26:25,720 --> 00:26:27,560
Speaker 1: just want to get to that point. I don't have

473
00:26:27,640 --> 00:26:30,399
Speaker 1: to be Steve Harvey Rich you know where I have

474
00:26:31,080 --> 00:26:33,560
Speaker 1: the you know, the houses here there and everywhere. Not

475
00:26:33,600 --> 00:26:35,679
Speaker 1: that I wouldn't mind that, but I'm I'm good. I

476
00:26:35,760 --> 00:26:38,280
Speaker 1: just you know, I'm wanna be okay. But as it,

477
00:26:38,359 --> 00:26:41,680
Speaker 1: what's the old saying, what's the yeah, comfortable? Comfortable without

478
00:26:41,720 --> 00:26:45,520
Speaker 1: TMZ chasing you around? Yeah, exactly. I don't want someone

479
00:26:45,600 --> 00:26:48,080
Speaker 1: like you know, It's just like Jim Rome. When Jim

480
00:26:48,160 --> 00:26:50,760
Speaker 1: Rome or Colin Cowherd sell their house, it ends up

481
00:26:50,760 --> 00:26:53,960
Speaker 1: in the l A Times real estate section. When I

482
00:26:53,960 --> 00:26:56,960
Speaker 1: I just move, nobody knows where I live, Nobody cares

483
00:26:57,000 --> 00:26:59,960
Speaker 1: where I live. You know. It's that, it's so the end.

484
00:27:00,000 --> 00:27:05,600
Speaker 1: Animity is a a good thing, for sure, but it's

485
00:27:05,720 --> 00:27:08,359
Speaker 1: you know, and I made some good money too, I mean,

486
00:27:08,200 --> 00:27:12,360
Speaker 1: I mean when we got into radio before the salary

487
00:27:12,400 --> 00:27:14,720
Speaker 1: structure went to hell in a handbasket back in the

488
00:27:14,840 --> 00:27:18,159
Speaker 1: nineties went you know, it's really a late nineties started

489
00:27:18,160 --> 00:27:22,240
Speaker 1: to change and then it just continually got worse and

490
00:27:22,280 --> 00:27:26,040
Speaker 1: worse as the years went on. But you know, I

491
00:27:26,280 --> 00:27:28,720
Speaker 1: don't know. You started radio younger than I did, though,

492
00:27:28,720 --> 00:27:30,360
Speaker 1: did he didn't you start? How old are you? How

493
00:27:30,400 --> 00:27:34,480
Speaker 1: old were you? I was fifteen, So I just celebrated

494
00:27:34,480 --> 00:27:39,719
Speaker 1: my thirtieth year in broadcasting. Wow. Yeah, So it's been

495
00:27:39,760 --> 00:27:42,199
Speaker 1: a wild ride. I mean, I I was. We had

496
00:27:42,240 --> 00:27:45,200
Speaker 1: a high school radio station where I was at and

497
00:27:45,240 --> 00:27:48,440
Speaker 1: I started there when I was in junior high. I

498
00:27:48,480 --> 00:27:51,359
Speaker 1: would I would walk after school to the high school

499
00:27:51,359 --> 00:27:55,480
Speaker 1: and the the electronics teacher was the dude leading that

500
00:27:55,640 --> 00:27:58,159
Speaker 1: little radio station. But it wasn't a little radio station,

501
00:27:58,200 --> 00:28:00,800
Speaker 1: which was the cool part. It had a lot of

502
00:28:00,800 --> 00:28:04,080
Speaker 1: wattage for a you know, a station like that. It

503
00:28:04,119 --> 00:28:06,720
Speaker 1: covered the entire city. So if you had a show

504
00:28:07,040 --> 00:28:09,800
Speaker 1: on that high school radio station, you actually had listeners.

505
00:28:10,480 --> 00:28:13,840
Speaker 1: It didn't just cover the parking lot of the campus. Um.

506
00:28:14,040 --> 00:28:16,840
Speaker 1: So my older brother and I we took advantage of that.

507
00:28:16,880 --> 00:28:18,720
Speaker 1: We played some good hip hop and R and B.

508
00:28:18,920 --> 00:28:22,879
Speaker 1: Music and read everybody's dedications and requests a couple of

509
00:28:22,920 --> 00:28:26,840
Speaker 1: times a week when we did the afternoon radio shows there. Uh.

510
00:28:26,880 --> 00:28:30,240
Speaker 1: And then I parlayed that into the college radio station

511
00:28:31,000 --> 00:28:33,719
Speaker 1: uh there in northern California where I was at and

512
00:28:33,880 --> 00:28:38,120
Speaker 1: did this really popular Friday night rap show. And then

513
00:28:38,320 --> 00:28:41,520
Speaker 1: at sixteen years old, I got my first commercial radio job,

514
00:28:41,560 --> 00:28:45,200
Speaker 1: working weekends at a big station in our city. Um.

515
00:28:45,640 --> 00:28:48,600
Speaker 1: And it was my first paycheck from radio. It was awesome, uh,

516
00:28:48,720 --> 00:28:51,520
Speaker 1: you know. And from there that I was already doing

517
00:28:51,520 --> 00:28:54,000
Speaker 1: it all through high school. So as soon as I graduated,

518
00:28:54,640 --> 00:28:59,160
Speaker 1: packed up my bags, moved to Ventura and built helped

519
00:28:59,160 --> 00:29:02,440
Speaker 1: build a big pop station that still stands with big

520
00:29:02,520 --> 00:29:08,000
Speaker 1: ratings there today. Uh So, now what a wild fun ride, um,

521
00:29:08,040 --> 00:29:10,240
Speaker 1: you know. And and that's the part, that's the part

522
00:29:10,320 --> 00:29:12,760
Speaker 1: I love about it, is just connecting with the listeners

523
00:29:13,240 --> 00:29:16,080
Speaker 1: and making an impact in the community that you're in.

524
00:29:15,840 --> 00:29:18,800
Speaker 1: In our case, it's a network, so we're all over

525
00:29:18,840 --> 00:29:21,640
Speaker 1: the world the country, and you know, we have listeners everywhere,

526
00:29:21,640 --> 00:29:25,200
Speaker 1: which is even more amazing. Um. So, if the paycheck

527
00:29:25,280 --> 00:29:27,320
Speaker 1: is good enough to just cover your bills and for

528
00:29:27,360 --> 00:29:30,040
Speaker 1: you to be comfortable, then the bottom line and from

529
00:29:30,080 --> 00:29:32,360
Speaker 1: what I found out in thirty years of doing this,

530
00:29:33,080 --> 00:29:37,400
Speaker 1: when you have unscripted moments on live radio and all

531
00:29:37,440 --> 00:29:39,960
Speaker 1: of us are trying to not laugh like the other night,

532
00:29:40,440 --> 00:29:42,960
Speaker 1: but we can't help it, and we just are interrupting

533
00:29:43,040 --> 00:29:46,800
Speaker 1: Eddie's update because uh, you know, we're all just laughing

534
00:29:46,880 --> 00:29:50,320
Speaker 1: and we can't stop. When the show is over, you're

535
00:29:50,360 --> 00:29:52,680
Speaker 1: on like a natural high. I guess that's the best

536
00:29:52,720 --> 00:29:55,520
Speaker 1: best way I can describe it. It's like you smoked

537
00:29:55,560 --> 00:29:58,800
Speaker 1: some good bud, but none of us are smoking. You know,

538
00:29:58,880 --> 00:30:02,240
Speaker 1: we're all sober. But when you do really good radio,

539
00:30:02,600 --> 00:30:05,240
Speaker 1: you are buzzing afterwards. It is like a natural high

540
00:30:05,240 --> 00:30:08,440
Speaker 1: because we know that we have listeners out there that

541
00:30:08,520 --> 00:30:10,960
Speaker 1: might be having a hard day, a hard morning, a

542
00:30:11,040 --> 00:30:15,040
Speaker 1: hard life, a hard month. But you are that moment,

543
00:30:15,160 --> 00:30:17,800
Speaker 1: that bright spot in their day where you actually make

544
00:30:17,880 --> 00:30:20,760
Speaker 1: them smile and laugh. And that is the best part

545
00:30:20,760 --> 00:30:24,400
Speaker 1: of radio. I completely agree with. I could not say

546
00:30:24,440 --> 00:30:26,880
Speaker 1: it better than you, Danny. And you know I started.

547
00:30:26,920 --> 00:30:29,120
Speaker 1: I was nineteen years old, so you have four more

548
00:30:29,200 --> 00:30:33,520
Speaker 1: years on me. Um. But that's the I get email

549
00:30:33,560 --> 00:30:35,840
Speaker 1: from people and being on the overnight show, and you

550
00:30:35,880 --> 00:30:37,160
Speaker 1: know this, when you worked on the show, we have

551
00:30:37,200 --> 00:30:39,400
Speaker 1: a lot of people that are sick, a lot of

552
00:30:39,440 --> 00:30:41,959
Speaker 1: people that have bad health, that are going through some

553
00:30:42,080 --> 00:30:46,600
Speaker 1: really dark times in their lives. And it is when

554
00:30:46,600 --> 00:30:50,560
Speaker 1: you're alone late at night and there's no one around,

555
00:30:51,440 --> 00:30:53,640
Speaker 1: it is so bad. I mean, he just wants someone

556
00:30:53,680 --> 00:30:56,240
Speaker 1: to talk to. You can't call anybody, you can't, I mean,

557
00:30:56,320 --> 00:31:00,280
Speaker 1: just by yourself. And I always love when I get

558
00:31:00,280 --> 00:31:02,280
Speaker 1: an email or something from somebody who said so and

559
00:31:02,280 --> 00:31:05,440
Speaker 1: so listen and every night they were sick, they had this,

560
00:31:05,560 --> 00:31:07,480
Speaker 1: that and the other thing going on with them and

561
00:31:07,520 --> 00:31:10,440
Speaker 1: they love the show, and um, it's great. And I

562
00:31:11,000 --> 00:31:12,560
Speaker 1: you know, not that you don't get that during the

563
00:31:12,640 --> 00:31:14,480
Speaker 1: day per se, but I think it's more of a

564
00:31:14,560 --> 00:31:16,160
Speaker 1: nighttime thing. I think during the day it's more of

565
00:31:16,160 --> 00:31:18,920
Speaker 1: the hustle and bustle, and there's people in the car

566
00:31:19,040 --> 00:31:20,800
Speaker 1: on the way to work or on the way home

567
00:31:20,840 --> 00:31:23,280
Speaker 1: from work or whatever. And we have people that listen

568
00:31:23,360 --> 00:31:25,120
Speaker 1: overnight that are working. But I think there's a lot

569
00:31:25,120 --> 00:31:27,960
Speaker 1: of people that are by themselves, whether it's in a

570
00:31:28,000 --> 00:31:31,160
Speaker 1: hospital or at home or just dealing with the crap

571
00:31:31,240 --> 00:31:34,320
Speaker 1: that life throws at you. And it is it's one

572
00:31:34,360 --> 00:31:37,800
Speaker 1: of the great powers of radio. And I think, yeah, well,

573
00:31:38,280 --> 00:31:40,200
Speaker 1: I'm biased. I'm sure you're biased to Danny is a

574
00:31:40,200 --> 00:31:42,040
Speaker 1: lifetime radio guy. But I don't think you get that

575
00:31:42,160 --> 00:31:45,800
Speaker 1: same sense from any form any other form of media.

576
00:31:46,320 --> 00:31:48,840
Speaker 1: It's just different. There's something about radio and just having

577
00:31:48,840 --> 00:31:51,880
Speaker 1: somebody talk to you, or listening to music. When you

578
00:31:51,920 --> 00:31:54,440
Speaker 1: worked in music radio, you know, I have somebody. It's

579
00:31:54,480 --> 00:31:57,920
Speaker 1: just a different animal than television, and even like the Internet.

580
00:31:58,000 --> 00:32:00,280
Speaker 1: I mean, the Internet is great and wonderful, and I

581
00:32:00,320 --> 00:32:04,280
Speaker 1: can spend hours on YouTube, which is basically just television

582
00:32:04,320 --> 00:32:05,960
Speaker 1: when you choose what you want to watch and all

583
00:32:06,000 --> 00:32:09,320
Speaker 1: that stuff. But it's something about radio to me that

584
00:32:09,480 --> 00:32:12,360
Speaker 1: and and I guess I'm archaic because I believe that.

585
00:32:12,400 --> 00:32:14,400
Speaker 1: But you were doing a podcast right now. I think

586
00:32:14,440 --> 00:32:17,200
Speaker 1: it's a similar thing with a podcast, it's not quite

587
00:32:17,240 --> 00:32:19,120
Speaker 1: the same. One of the magic things about radio is

588
00:32:19,160 --> 00:32:21,920
Speaker 1: you're actually like, we're there, we're live. There's another human

589
00:32:21,960 --> 00:32:24,200
Speaker 1: being alive that's on in the middle of the night,

590
00:32:24,240 --> 00:32:26,000
Speaker 1: you know. I think that was always the big selling

591
00:32:26,040 --> 00:32:29,920
Speaker 1: point I thought was that we're actually there, We're not recorded,

592
00:32:29,960 --> 00:32:31,960
Speaker 1: we're doing it live. Do it live right? Do it

593
00:32:32,000 --> 00:32:34,640
Speaker 1: like like phil O'Reilly said back back in the day. No,

594
00:32:34,800 --> 00:32:37,320
Speaker 1: you're you're you're you know, you're spot on with that,

595
00:32:37,480 --> 00:32:40,920
Speaker 1: because as a kid, uh, you know, there was some

596
00:32:40,920 --> 00:32:44,120
Speaker 1: some pretty can I curse on that show or yeah

597
00:32:44,160 --> 00:32:47,719
Speaker 1: it's a podcast, say whatever the funk you want there.

598
00:32:47,760 --> 00:32:50,160
Speaker 1: There was some pretty shitty things going on when I

599
00:32:50,200 --> 00:32:53,720
Speaker 1: was a little kid, um, you know, between my mom

600
00:32:53,760 --> 00:32:57,000
Speaker 1: and dad and divorce at a young age, and my

601
00:32:57,000 --> 00:32:59,320
Speaker 1: mom was displaced and for a while we didn't have

602
00:32:59,360 --> 00:33:01,760
Speaker 1: any where to it for a long while, we didn't

603
00:33:01,760 --> 00:33:04,120
Speaker 1: have anywhere to stay when we were in southern California,

604
00:33:04,120 --> 00:33:07,000
Speaker 1: and it it was a real ship show, to put

605
00:33:07,000 --> 00:33:09,920
Speaker 1: it lightly. But one thing I did have, and you

606
00:33:10,080 --> 00:33:13,200
Speaker 1: laugh at this, it was a G I Joe transistor

607
00:33:13,320 --> 00:33:16,080
Speaker 1: radio and it was hooked up to like one of

608
00:33:16,080 --> 00:33:20,160
Speaker 1: those uh walkie talkies, so it had a base and

609
00:33:20,160 --> 00:33:22,200
Speaker 1: then it had like the walkie talkie you could take

610
00:33:22,200 --> 00:33:25,520
Speaker 1: off of it to be mobile. On the base was

611
00:33:25,560 --> 00:33:29,360
Speaker 1: an a MFM radio and I listened to Vince Scully

612
00:33:29,480 --> 00:33:33,560
Speaker 1: on that thing every night. And yeah, I mean, he's

613
00:33:33,560 --> 00:33:36,120
Speaker 1: calling a baseball game. But I still thought that that

614
00:33:36,200 --> 00:33:39,480
Speaker 1: was my dude. I thought like I knew that guy.

615
00:33:39,920 --> 00:33:42,240
Speaker 1: You know, you might as well have been my grandpa.

616
00:33:42,480 --> 00:33:45,760
Speaker 1: And and I had that every night, no matter what

617
00:33:46,000 --> 00:33:49,080
Speaker 1: crap was going on in life, I could count on

618
00:33:49,200 --> 00:33:52,000
Speaker 1: him and I could count on that time with my radio,

619
00:33:52,840 --> 00:33:55,320
Speaker 1: and it was awesome. Man. And then when I got

620
00:33:55,360 --> 00:33:58,160
Speaker 1: into music, when I got a couple of years older,

621
00:33:58,720 --> 00:34:01,800
Speaker 1: there was k DY Radio with the early hip hop

622
00:34:01,840 --> 00:34:05,600
Speaker 1: in k Poo and San Francisco, which did a lot

623
00:34:05,640 --> 00:34:09,600
Speaker 1: of live mixed shows and played unedited versions of rap songs,

624
00:34:09,640 --> 00:34:12,480
Speaker 1: which was pretty amazing at that time. And I listened

625
00:34:12,520 --> 00:34:15,760
Speaker 1: to all of those live turntable mixes on that radio.

626
00:34:16,280 --> 00:34:18,520
Speaker 1: I listened to Vince s Guli on that radio, Bill

627
00:34:18,640 --> 00:34:23,399
Speaker 1: King calling Raider games on that radio, and it made

628
00:34:23,400 --> 00:34:27,040
Speaker 1: a huge impact in my life. And you know, that's

629
00:34:27,120 --> 00:34:29,880
Speaker 1: that's why radio is so important. It has played a

630
00:34:29,920 --> 00:34:32,919
Speaker 1: big part in just about everybody's life. Yeah, When when

631
00:34:32,920 --> 00:34:35,840
Speaker 1: I was a kid, my mom used to listen to

632
00:34:35,920 --> 00:34:38,880
Speaker 1: Coast to Coast with Art Bell and uh, you know,

633
00:34:39,040 --> 00:34:42,440
Speaker 1: late at night, and he sold one of his advertisers

634
00:34:42,520 --> 00:34:47,160
Speaker 1: was this radio antenna that you could get to get

635
00:34:47,200 --> 00:34:49,879
Speaker 1: you know, listen to far away radio stations. And I

636
00:34:49,920 --> 00:34:51,840
Speaker 1: was all in on that, you know, and I begged

637
00:34:51,840 --> 00:34:54,080
Speaker 1: my mom. I said, Mom, you gotta hook me up

638
00:34:54,120 --> 00:34:56,720
Speaker 1: with that thing. And finally she did. It was pretty

639
00:34:56,760 --> 00:34:58,719
Speaker 1: pricey at the time. I don't remember how much, but

640
00:34:59,040 --> 00:35:01,799
Speaker 1: probably by today standards it would be dirt cheap, but

641
00:35:01,920 --> 00:35:03,600
Speaker 1: it was. It was a pretty pricey thing. And I

642
00:35:03,640 --> 00:35:07,040
Speaker 1: got that, and man, I was like, you know, a

643
00:35:07,040 --> 00:35:09,960
Speaker 1: pig and slop. I was listening to. You know, being

644
00:35:10,000 --> 00:35:12,120
Speaker 1: in the West, it's not as cool as I'm here

645
00:35:12,120 --> 00:35:14,400
Speaker 1: on the East listening to far away radio stations you

646
00:35:14,440 --> 00:35:17,160
Speaker 1: can get everything. But I got k O A out

647
00:35:17,160 --> 00:35:19,920
Speaker 1: of Denver eight fifty. I I heard a station I

648
00:35:20,000 --> 00:35:22,640
Speaker 1: used to listen to Utah jazz games on eight seventy

649
00:35:22,640 --> 00:35:25,239
Speaker 1: out of St. George. I think it was maybe ninety.

650
00:35:25,280 --> 00:35:27,560
Speaker 1: It was a station out of St. George, Utah that

651
00:35:27,640 --> 00:35:30,120
Speaker 1: I listened to. I got Sons games out of six

652
00:35:30,200 --> 00:35:33,719
Speaker 1: twenty k T A R. I got a station out

653
00:35:33,719 --> 00:35:36,880
Speaker 1: of Seattle, which was like a news station. So I

654
00:35:36,960 --> 00:35:39,319
Speaker 1: like all this, like it was like awesome. I was like,

655
00:35:39,520 --> 00:35:41,640
Speaker 1: you know, that was before the internet. That we're old, Danny,

656
00:35:41,640 --> 00:35:43,080
Speaker 1: and that was like before the Internet. You could hear

657
00:35:43,120 --> 00:35:47,279
Speaker 1: these far away stations and all that, and uh and

658
00:35:47,400 --> 00:35:51,000
Speaker 1: it was radio nerd. I respect that. Yeah, I'm I

659
00:35:51,160 --> 00:35:56,080
Speaker 1: was full nerd. I was full radio geek. I had. Yeah. Uh,

660
00:35:56,280 --> 00:35:59,640
Speaker 1: any any regrets, Danny, any gig that you had that

661
00:35:59,719 --> 00:36:02,160
Speaker 1: you would have gotten that, you didn't get that? You said,

662
00:36:02,160 --> 00:36:04,359
Speaker 1: Oh man, I wish I had taken that, or you

663
00:36:04,880 --> 00:36:09,000
Speaker 1: not a look back guy. I wish I could say

664
00:36:09,000 --> 00:36:12,360
Speaker 1: I'm not a look back guy. But unfortunately I passed

665
00:36:12,440 --> 00:36:15,080
Speaker 1: up on a one hundred thousand dollar a year job

666
00:36:15,239 --> 00:36:21,080
Speaker 1: in Honolulu. Oh yeah, so I was. I was programming

667
00:36:21,640 --> 00:36:25,319
Speaker 1: k c a Q Ventura Santa Barbara in the late

668
00:36:25,400 --> 00:36:29,520
Speaker 1: nineties and the station just blew up in a major way.

669
00:36:29,560 --> 00:36:32,680
Speaker 1: I I had an ulcer, I had hemorrhoids. I was

670
00:36:32,719 --> 00:36:37,600
Speaker 1: bleeding out the mouth in the ass. I mean it

671
00:36:37,960 --> 00:36:41,440
Speaker 1: because ben I worked ninety hours. I literally had a

672
00:36:41,440 --> 00:36:45,160
Speaker 1: cot in my office there and the programming offices. I mean,

673
00:36:45,600 --> 00:36:48,600
Speaker 1: to make it be a monster, I had to turn

674
00:36:48,640 --> 00:36:50,880
Speaker 1: into a monster, if you know what I'm saying, And

675
00:36:52,120 --> 00:36:54,560
Speaker 1: I mean you, as a program director, you have to

676
00:36:54,640 --> 00:36:57,839
Speaker 1: will your station to victory. It's kind of like, you know,

677
00:36:58,000 --> 00:37:00,600
Speaker 1: being a quarterback with a broken leg the field and

678
00:37:00,640 --> 00:37:03,520
Speaker 1: they are limping you up and down the uh the field,

679
00:37:03,560 --> 00:37:06,600
Speaker 1: they have to carry you. But at this station, I

680
00:37:06,640 --> 00:37:09,880
Speaker 1: had a bunch of talent that was screen. I had

681
00:37:09,920 --> 00:37:13,680
Speaker 1: no budgets for promotions. I didn't have much to work with.

682
00:37:14,239 --> 00:37:16,760
Speaker 1: But what I did have was really really good music.

683
00:37:17,640 --> 00:37:20,799
Speaker 1: I had a large signal, so that was good um,

684
00:37:20,880 --> 00:37:22,640
Speaker 1: and so I was able to put it all together.

685
00:37:22,960 --> 00:37:25,960
Speaker 1: And it was the toughest challenge of my life at

686
00:37:26,000 --> 00:37:29,160
Speaker 1: the time and still looking back, probably the biggest challenge

687
00:37:29,160 --> 00:37:32,160
Speaker 1: I've ever had, besides that early stuff my mom went

688
00:37:32,200 --> 00:37:35,959
Speaker 1: through as a kid, and I drew on on those experiences,

689
00:37:35,960 --> 00:37:38,040
Speaker 1: though I'm like, you know what, I'm not scared of this.

690
00:37:38,160 --> 00:37:41,359
Speaker 1: I had worst crap go on in my life. So

691
00:37:41,520 --> 00:37:44,439
Speaker 1: I had bad stuff going on in my personal life.

692
00:37:44,440 --> 00:37:47,239
Speaker 1: But the radio station was doing really, really well. So

693
00:37:47,840 --> 00:37:51,719
Speaker 1: suddenly they were building over a million dollars a month

694
00:37:51,880 --> 00:37:55,000
Speaker 1: in advertising revenue, and they're they're in Ventura, which was

695
00:37:55,080 --> 00:37:59,600
Speaker 1: market one nine at the time, and they're now building

696
00:38:00,040 --> 00:38:03,840
Speaker 1: know tons of money. Just it turned into their cash

697
00:38:03,880 --> 00:38:06,200
Speaker 1: cow for that company. So they were giving me a

698
00:38:06,280 --> 00:38:09,160
Speaker 1: nice salary. But it caught the attention of some other

699
00:38:09,280 --> 00:38:12,000
Speaker 1: radio stations and some other groups, and so I got

700
00:38:12,280 --> 00:38:14,840
Speaker 1: a plane ticket sent to me from this radio group

701
00:38:14,920 --> 00:38:19,239
Speaker 1: in Honolulu. They flew me in, they interviewed me. But

702
00:38:19,800 --> 00:38:22,719
Speaker 1: you know, I'm in my twenties, and here at k

703
00:38:22,880 --> 00:38:26,160
Speaker 1: c a Q, I had control over everything. I get

704
00:38:26,160 --> 00:38:28,680
Speaker 1: to Honolulu and they're like, oh, this is our in

705
00:38:28,800 --> 00:38:32,880
Speaker 1: house you know consultant. This guy is the programmer to

706
00:38:32,960 --> 00:38:36,319
Speaker 1: the programmer, this guy is the you know this to that,

707
00:38:36,440 --> 00:38:39,080
Speaker 1: And so to get one song on the radio, I

708
00:38:39,120 --> 00:38:41,120
Speaker 1: would have had to go through like four different people.

709
00:38:41,680 --> 00:38:44,640
Speaker 1: And I was like, Ah, the money is good, it's Hawaii.

710
00:38:45,320 --> 00:38:48,040
Speaker 1: But but I wasn't ready to retire. I was just

711
00:38:48,040 --> 00:38:51,400
Speaker 1: getting started. Now. If somebody came to me now and

712
00:38:51,600 --> 00:38:53,359
Speaker 1: you know the equivalent of that now would be two

713
00:38:53,440 --> 00:38:56,960
Speaker 1: hundred thousand dollars in Hollolulu, that obviously I would go

714
00:38:57,120 --> 00:39:01,080
Speaker 1: move there tomorrow. But in my twins, with everything going

715
00:39:01,120 --> 00:39:04,040
Speaker 1: on in Southern California the way it was back then,

716
00:39:04,239 --> 00:39:06,879
Speaker 1: I actually turned the job off or down. I did

717
00:39:06,920 --> 00:39:10,359
Speaker 1: get a raise from that group. When I got back

718
00:39:10,360 --> 00:39:12,640
Speaker 1: from Honolulu. They wanted to lock me in, so they

719
00:39:12,640 --> 00:39:15,120
Speaker 1: gave me a raise and locked me into a contract.

720
00:39:15,840 --> 00:39:18,640
Speaker 1: So it did help with the long term success I

721
00:39:18,640 --> 00:39:22,240
Speaker 1: had there. But I still look back in fact, um

722
00:39:23,080 --> 00:39:26,439
Speaker 1: my girl and I we have a little three four

723
00:39:26,520 --> 00:39:31,560
Speaker 1: day trip planned to Hawaii at the end of November. Yeah,

724
00:39:31,600 --> 00:39:35,040
Speaker 1: and then this is something I planned, not smartly because

725
00:39:35,120 --> 00:39:37,600
Speaker 1: I didn't know the shakeup was gonna happen without Kick

726
00:39:37,680 --> 00:39:40,200
Speaker 1: the coverage and all that. So, you know, I planned

727
00:39:40,200 --> 00:39:43,279
Speaker 1: this a few months back, and then when my life

728
00:39:43,280 --> 00:39:46,200
Speaker 1: I turned up upside down. The first thing my girl

729
00:39:46,239 --> 00:39:48,040
Speaker 1: did was look at me and she's like, what about

730
00:39:48,080 --> 00:39:52,360
Speaker 1: our Hawaii trip? You know you gotta do it. You

731
00:39:52,360 --> 00:39:55,240
Speaker 1: know we're gonna go to Hawaii while you're unemployed, because

732
00:39:55,239 --> 00:39:58,440
Speaker 1: then you're really on the beach. Well, now you're you

733
00:39:58,520 --> 00:40:01,280
Speaker 1: are you didn't ask the bigger veal. We were all shocked.

734
00:40:01,320 --> 00:40:03,600
Speaker 1: We were talking about that last night actually, Danny the

735
00:40:03,640 --> 00:40:06,120
Speaker 1: other night on the show that you know, Danny g

736
00:40:06,360 --> 00:40:09,000
Speaker 1: I mean, we've known you forever and you know, you've

737
00:40:09,040 --> 00:40:12,360
Speaker 1: always been the bachelor guy, and now you're you're engaged,

738
00:40:12,440 --> 00:40:16,759
Speaker 1: which is outstanding. Congratulations on that. Now, would if you're

739
00:40:16,800 --> 00:40:18,920
Speaker 1: in Hawaii, where are you going to Honolulu? Are you

740
00:40:19,000 --> 00:40:21,479
Speaker 1: going to one of the other islands? So we're gonna

741
00:40:21,520 --> 00:40:26,520
Speaker 1: go to mah Yeah, yeah, we're gonna try to avoid people. Okay, Um,

742
00:40:26,680 --> 00:40:30,920
Speaker 1: so we're going to Maui. Okay, that's great. I recommend

743
00:40:31,000 --> 00:40:33,960
Speaker 1: I got married in Kawaii if you ever If that's

744
00:40:34,160 --> 00:40:37,440
Speaker 1: that's the garden. Hardly anyone there's like forty miles of roads.

745
00:40:37,480 --> 00:40:40,360
Speaker 1: That's it. It's all uh, it's all crazy. But I've

746
00:40:40,400 --> 00:40:43,960
Speaker 1: heard wonderful things about Maui. I've never been to Maui.

747
00:40:44,080 --> 00:40:46,280
Speaker 1: I've heard good things. But when you're there, are you gonna,

748
00:40:46,360 --> 00:40:48,880
Speaker 1: you know, knock on the doors of some radio stations,

749
00:40:48,960 --> 00:40:52,000
Speaker 1: Danny and see see what's going on? Where your Hawaiian

750
00:40:52,040 --> 00:40:54,439
Speaker 1: shirt and all that. Yeah, I live that dream again,

751
00:40:54,520 --> 00:40:57,120
Speaker 1: be like, hey, I'm ready for you now. No, I don't.

752
00:40:57,239 --> 00:40:59,760
Speaker 1: I don't think so. I think I'm in a good place,

753
00:41:00,080 --> 00:41:03,440
Speaker 1: um in southern California right now. Um. You know, I

754
00:41:04,000 --> 00:41:06,440
Speaker 1: was able to come to an agreement with Fox Sports

755
00:41:06,520 --> 00:41:09,920
Speaker 1: Radio Network to stay on and kind of kind of

756
00:41:09,960 --> 00:41:13,360
Speaker 1: float and produce the shows that need an executive producer,

757
00:41:13,920 --> 00:41:16,960
Speaker 1: which was how I got to fill in for Coop Um.

758
00:41:17,080 --> 00:41:20,520
Speaker 1: And so that's okay for the time being. I'm not

759
00:41:20,600 --> 00:41:23,480
Speaker 1: in a rush to rush into anything else right now.

760
00:41:23,520 --> 00:41:26,839
Speaker 1: And and you know, radio, Ben, if you don't have

761
00:41:27,040 --> 00:41:30,560
Speaker 1: friends inside the building, you're just really not going to

762
00:41:30,680 --> 00:41:33,960
Speaker 1: get a job at that radio station. Yeah. It's not

763
00:41:34,080 --> 00:41:38,240
Speaker 1: what you know, it's who you know. Is so Yeah,

764
00:41:38,600 --> 00:41:41,919
Speaker 1: unfortunate unfortunately. And the other thing that I hate about

765
00:41:41,960 --> 00:41:45,920
Speaker 1: this business, Danny, is when you're unemployed or whatever, when

766
00:41:45,920 --> 00:41:48,359
Speaker 1: you're nobody wants to talk to you, like it's like

767
00:41:48,400 --> 00:41:52,200
Speaker 1: you got or whatever, and they like you got COVID

768
00:41:52,360 --> 00:41:55,520
Speaker 1: and you're coughing exactly exactly, all right. I know you

769
00:41:55,560 --> 00:41:58,160
Speaker 1: gotta go, Danny, but listen, thanks for doing this. I

770
00:41:58,200 --> 00:42:02,200
Speaker 1: appreciate this, and it was fun catching up with you,

771
00:42:02,640 --> 00:42:05,239
Speaker 1: and yeah, for sure, man, I look forward to the

772
00:42:05,280 --> 00:42:07,560
Speaker 1: next time I'm on your show. And you know I

773
00:42:07,560 --> 00:42:09,560
Speaker 1: didn't tell I didn't tell you this when we ended

774
00:42:09,560 --> 00:42:11,160
Speaker 1: the show the other day. Man, I'm not I'm not

775
00:42:11,200 --> 00:42:13,640
Speaker 1: sure if Coop would give me the green light on

776
00:42:13,640 --> 00:42:14,920
Speaker 1: this or if you knew I did this, but I

777
00:42:14,960 --> 00:42:19,280
Speaker 1: give them. I gave away thirty seven Golden Chicks answering

778
00:42:19,280 --> 00:42:21,960
Speaker 1: the phones together night, So you guys have fun answering

779
00:42:21,960 --> 00:42:23,880
Speaker 1: those calls next to Yeah, I can't wait. I'm sure

780
00:42:23,920 --> 00:42:26,120
Speaker 1: you're giving all the blind Scott to that that the

781
00:42:26,239 --> 00:42:32,920
Speaker 1: lunatic anyway, have fun, all right, Thanks Danny, all right,

782
00:42:33,040 --> 00:42:33,640
Speaker 1: love you guys,