1 00:00:00,400 --> 00:00:02,719 Speaker 1: The Michael Berry Show. 2 00:00:02,759 --> 00:00:05,560 Speaker 2: Doctor Hale Kushner rolled in the US Army while a 3 00:00:05,600 --> 00:00:08,719 Speaker 2: medical student at the Medical College of Virginia in nineteen 4 00:00:08,800 --> 00:00:11,920 Speaker 2: sixty five. In August of sixty seven, he deployed the 5 00:00:12,000 --> 00:00:15,800 Speaker 2: Vietnam as an Army flight surgeon. Not four months later, 6 00:00:15,840 --> 00:00:18,239 Speaker 2: during a dark and rainy evening, Kushner was a board 7 00:00:18,239 --> 00:00:20,920 Speaker 2: of helicopter that crashed into the side of a mountain 8 00:00:20,960 --> 00:00:24,799 Speaker 2: in South Vietnam. Kushner was quickly picked up by enemy soldiers. 9 00:00:24,840 --> 00:00:26,840 Speaker 2: He spent the next few years in the jungles of 10 00:00:26,880 --> 00:00:31,400 Speaker 2: South Vietnam, surviving with other POWs on spoiled rice and 11 00:00:31,520 --> 00:00:37,920 Speaker 2: incredibly desolate conditions. In twenty eighteen, he gave an incredibly 12 00:00:38,040 --> 00:00:41,960 Speaker 2: powerful Memorial Day speech at the Vietnam Veterans Memorial. It's 13 00:00:41,960 --> 00:00:43,959 Speaker 2: a long one, but you're going to want to hear 14 00:00:44,000 --> 00:00:45,920 Speaker 2: the entire thing. We'll play some of it now and 15 00:00:45,960 --> 00:00:48,080 Speaker 2: then the conclusion in the next segment. You're going to 16 00:00:48,120 --> 00:00:48,639 Speaker 2: want to hear this. 17 00:00:48,720 --> 00:00:56,160 Speaker 3: Good afternoon, General MacNair, General Williamson, Colonel Black, Mister Knots, 18 00:00:57,240 --> 00:01:02,320 Speaker 3: my family, Sharon, Debbie, Maddie, Gail, thank you so much 19 00:01:02,360 --> 00:01:07,680 Speaker 3: for being here, and particularly you GoldStar parents. We're all 20 00:01:07,720 --> 00:01:12,319 Speaker 3: so grateful for your sacrifice. Thank you Jim Knotts in 21 00:01:12,360 --> 00:01:17,600 Speaker 3: the Vietnam Veteran's Memorial Fund for allowing me this singular honor. 22 00:01:18,560 --> 00:01:21,679 Speaker 3: I am humbled and privileged to be able to speak 23 00:01:22,760 --> 00:01:27,360 Speaker 3: on this sacred day at this sacred place where we 24 00:01:27,480 --> 00:01:31,920 Speaker 3: honor our fallen and particularly those from the Vietnam War. 25 00:01:33,200 --> 00:01:38,320 Speaker 3: I personally have a close association with many too many 26 00:01:38,720 --> 00:01:42,679 Speaker 3: names on this wall of polished granite. Memorial Day for 27 00:01:42,800 --> 00:01:48,840 Speaker 3: me is a time of somber reflection and profound gratitude. 28 00:01:49,120 --> 00:01:52,720 Speaker 3: As the Rabbi told us, the first Memorial Day was 29 00:01:52,760 --> 00:01:56,120 Speaker 3: called Decoration Day, and Major General John Logan of the 30 00:01:56,200 --> 00:01:59,080 Speaker 3: Union Army declared that it should be on May thirty, 31 00:02:00,240 --> 00:02:03,960 Speaker 3: sixty eight. And on that first Memorial Day, the new 32 00:02:04,120 --> 00:02:09,400 Speaker 3: Arlington Cemetery held the graves of about twenty thousand Union 33 00:02:09,480 --> 00:02:13,840 Speaker 3: dead and a few hundred Confederate dead, and the Custus 34 00:02:13,919 --> 00:02:18,440 Speaker 3: Lee Mansion, which had been owned by Confederate General Robert E. 35 00:02:18,520 --> 00:02:21,680 Speaker 3: Lee and his wife, who was the step great granddaughter 36 00:02:21,760 --> 00:02:29,520 Speaker 3: of George Washington, was solemnly bedecked with black mourning crape. 37 00:02:29,639 --> 00:02:34,760 Speaker 3: General and Missus Grant presided and after the speeches. The children, 38 00:02:35,560 --> 00:02:41,280 Speaker 3: newly orphaned by the war, walked through the cemetery, strewing flowers, 39 00:02:41,440 --> 00:02:47,760 Speaker 3: saying prayers, singing hymns, and honoring the fallen, honoring those 40 00:02:47,880 --> 00:02:49,560 Speaker 3: who made the ultimate. 41 00:02:49,240 --> 00:02:51,560 Speaker 1: Sacrifice for their country. 42 00:02:52,680 --> 00:02:56,600 Speaker 3: It was in an attempt at national reconciliation after a 43 00:02:56,720 --> 00:03:01,840 Speaker 3: very divisive war which ripped in two the fabric of 44 00:03:01,880 --> 00:03:07,400 Speaker 3: our nation. And now the gently rolling six hundred and 45 00:03:07,400 --> 00:03:11,560 Speaker 3: twenty four green acres just across the Potomac, with its 46 00:03:11,680 --> 00:03:16,800 Speaker 3: mute white stones, hold over three hundred thousand grave sites. 47 00:03:17,840 --> 00:03:19,760 Speaker 1: Many of those grave sites. 48 00:03:19,880 --> 00:03:23,960 Speaker 3: Enshrined the fallen from our conflict in Vietnam, which this 49 00:03:24,120 --> 00:03:30,080 Speaker 3: wall behind me commemorates in our time. The Vietnam War 50 00:03:30,480 --> 00:03:35,560 Speaker 3: was a terribly divisive conflict which became more acrimonious and 51 00:03:35,680 --> 00:03:39,400 Speaker 3: disruptive the longer it went on, and it went on 52 00:03:39,600 --> 00:03:43,520 Speaker 3: for a very long time, almost three times as long 53 00:03:43,880 --> 00:03:48,600 Speaker 3: as our Civil War. The Vietnam War was unique in 54 00:03:48,600 --> 00:03:52,720 Speaker 3: our history in that many Americans who were against the 55 00:03:52,760 --> 00:03:57,120 Speaker 3: war focused their anger on those in the military who 56 00:03:57,160 --> 00:04:00,040 Speaker 3: had answered the call of their government and gone and 57 00:04:00,080 --> 00:04:04,320 Speaker 3: halfway around the world to fight and die in jungles 58 00:04:04,360 --> 00:04:09,280 Speaker 3: and swamps and rice paddies in what became an increasingly 59 00:04:09,480 --> 00:04:10,680 Speaker 3: unpopular cause. 60 00:04:11,920 --> 00:04:14,080 Speaker 1: Have we finally learned in the. 61 00:04:14,080 --> 00:04:19,200 Speaker 3: Last fifty years that the military's mission is to execute policy, 62 00:04:19,960 --> 00:04:23,520 Speaker 3: not to make it, and soldiers don't get to choose 63 00:04:23,560 --> 00:04:28,039 Speaker 3: their wars. I went to Vietnam on a United Airlines 64 00:04:28,120 --> 00:04:30,800 Speaker 3: contract flight as a twenty six year old doctor in 65 00:04:30,920 --> 00:04:31,920 Speaker 3: starch khakis. 66 00:04:32,680 --> 00:04:35,520 Speaker 1: I left Vietnam as a thirty three year. 67 00:04:35,480 --> 00:04:39,680 Speaker 3: Old in pow clothes who hadn't seen his family in 68 00:04:39,760 --> 00:04:44,920 Speaker 3: six years, but had seen unspeakable horrors and suffering. I 69 00:04:45,000 --> 00:04:48,240 Speaker 3: served with many soldiers whose names are ashed into this wall, 70 00:04:48,760 --> 00:04:52,760 Speaker 3: and ten of those ten I held their heads in 71 00:04:52,839 --> 00:04:57,440 Speaker 3: my hands as they passed to the other side. These 72 00:04:57,480 --> 00:05:00,760 Speaker 3: are the men who died in my arms and terrible 73 00:05:00,839 --> 00:05:07,160 Speaker 3: conditions in a pow camp. Francis Cannon panel thirty three, 74 00:05:07,279 --> 00:05:13,440 Speaker 3: E line eighty, Richard Williams panel forty three, W line 75 00:05:13,480 --> 00:05:19,279 Speaker 3: thirty two, Robert Sherman panel twenty two, east line fifty nine, 76 00:05:19,839 --> 00:05:25,760 Speaker 3: Russell Grissett panel four, east line eighty two, Fred Burns 77 00:05:26,240 --> 00:05:32,000 Speaker 3: panel thirty two, east line fifty six. William Port Medal 78 00:05:32,000 --> 00:05:37,680 Speaker 3: of Honor panel thirty four, east line thirty nine. Joe's 79 00:05:37,720 --> 00:05:44,040 Speaker 3: Autake panel thirty eight East line forty two, Dennis Hammond 80 00:05:44,600 --> 00:05:49,520 Speaker 3: Panel thirty eight East line twenty nine, and Captain William 81 00:05:49,560 --> 00:05:54,320 Speaker 3: Eisenbrown Panel two, East line twenty seven, who died shortly 82 00:05:54,400 --> 00:05:57,360 Speaker 3: before I arrived at the camp. And I know those 83 00:05:57,880 --> 00:06:01,479 Speaker 3: names mean a lot to my brother David Harker, who 84 00:06:01,520 --> 00:06:08,000 Speaker 3: is on this diace. These are the men who died 85 00:06:08,080 --> 00:06:13,960 Speaker 3: beside me before captivity. Steve Porcella Panel thirty one East 86 00:06:14,120 --> 00:06:20,080 Speaker 3: line sixteen, Griff Bedworth Panel thirty one, East line nine, 87 00:06:20,920 --> 00:06:28,239 Speaker 3: Kenneth McKee, Panel thirty one, East line fourteen. My name, 88 00:06:28,680 --> 00:06:32,520 Speaker 3: My name should be on panel thirty one East. But 89 00:06:32,600 --> 00:06:37,760 Speaker 3: I survived a non survivable helicopter crash, severe wounds, five 90 00:06:37,800 --> 00:06:41,640 Speaker 3: and a half years, sixty four months, one nine hundred 91 00:06:41,640 --> 00:06:45,560 Speaker 3: and thirty two days in a pow camp. I come 92 00:06:45,600 --> 00:06:49,640 Speaker 3: here today to honor all fallen warriors. But I think 93 00:06:49,680 --> 00:06:54,480 Speaker 3: about these very brave heroes who suffered and died, and 94 00:06:54,560 --> 00:06:58,120 Speaker 3: I realized how lucky I am, and how much I 95 00:06:58,200 --> 00:07:02,640 Speaker 3: owe my country and my fellow prisoners like David, for 96 00:07:02,760 --> 00:07:05,440 Speaker 3: if it hadn't been for all of us, none of 97 00:07:05,520 --> 00:07:11,400 Speaker 3: us would be alive today. I have been to this 98 00:07:11,440 --> 00:07:15,600 Speaker 3: wall many times, and I have looked with wondering gratitude 99 00:07:16,080 --> 00:07:20,160 Speaker 3: at the edge names shining in the black granite, and 100 00:07:20,240 --> 00:07:23,080 Speaker 3: I've placed my hands on it, and I have felt 101 00:07:23,240 --> 00:07:28,160 Speaker 3: its electric coolness, and I realized the miracle that my 102 00:07:28,360 --> 00:07:34,520 Speaker 3: name is not on it. This magnificent monument was almost 103 00:07:34,560 --> 00:07:39,000 Speaker 3: as controversial as the war itself. Maya Lin, the anonymous 104 00:07:39,000 --> 00:07:43,280 Speaker 3: applicant whose design was chosen, spoke of taking a knife 105 00:07:43,640 --> 00:07:47,320 Speaker 3: and cutting a great gash in the earth, the wound 106 00:07:47,800 --> 00:07:51,720 Speaker 3: which was Vietnam, which with time, she said, would heal 107 00:07:51,800 --> 00:07:56,200 Speaker 3: and bring reconciliation. And indeed it has become a place 108 00:07:56,240 --> 00:08:01,040 Speaker 3: of redemption and healing and resolution. But I don't see 109 00:08:01,080 --> 00:08:05,120 Speaker 3: this wall as a wound. I was here yesterday, I 110 00:08:05,160 --> 00:08:09,960 Speaker 3: looked at it. I see this wall as a giant chevron, 111 00:08:10,440 --> 00:08:15,400 Speaker 3: a PFC stripe, a Marine Corps lance corporal stripe that 112 00:08:15,640 --> 00:08:19,160 Speaker 3: honors all soldiers who left the comfort of their home 113 00:08:19,200 --> 00:08:22,640 Speaker 3: and family and went to a strange and distant land 114 00:08:23,240 --> 00:08:26,640 Speaker 3: to help in the global struggle against communism. 115 00:08:27,640 --> 00:08:28,520 Speaker 1: That's why I went. 116 00:08:29,680 --> 00:08:33,160 Speaker 3: And these fifty eight thousand plus names remind us of 117 00:08:33,200 --> 00:08:36,200 Speaker 3: the costs and the sacrifice of that struggle. 118 00:08:36,840 --> 00:08:40,000 Speaker 1: You're listening to the Michael Berry's show. 119 00:08:41,080 --> 00:08:43,440 Speaker 2: Let's get right into the conclusion of doctor Hal Kushner's 120 00:08:43,440 --> 00:08:45,760 Speaker 2: twenty eighteen Memorial Day speech in front of the Vietnam 121 00:08:45,840 --> 00:08:46,600 Speaker 2: Veterans Memorial. 122 00:08:46,760 --> 00:08:50,200 Speaker 3: I went to Vietnam in nineteen sixty seven, and I 123 00:08:50,240 --> 00:08:52,840 Speaker 3: was assigned as flight surgeon for a very famous unit, 124 00:08:52,920 --> 00:08:56,600 Speaker 3: the Mighty first Squadron, ninth Cavalry, which was involved in 125 00:08:56,679 --> 00:09:01,760 Speaker 3: daily combat. I replaced Captain Carl Chanelle, killed in action 126 00:09:01,920 --> 00:09:05,880 Speaker 3: April sixty seven, Panel eighteen east, line thirty six. 127 00:09:07,600 --> 00:09:08,240 Speaker 1: Excuse me. 128 00:09:09,040 --> 00:09:11,839 Speaker 3: Each day my medics went out on operations, and they 129 00:09:11,880 --> 00:09:16,319 Speaker 3: returned with those gray green body bags and wounded soldiers 130 00:09:16,400 --> 00:09:20,880 Speaker 3: whom we treated and or evacuated. And we received enemy POWs, 131 00:09:20,880 --> 00:09:24,199 Speaker 3: which we treated just like our own, and evacuated them 132 00:09:24,240 --> 00:09:29,320 Speaker 3: to more advanced facilities if required. Too many of our 133 00:09:29,360 --> 00:09:33,120 Speaker 3: medics were killed or wounded badly enough to be evacuated 134 00:09:33,160 --> 00:09:36,960 Speaker 3: from the theater. Three days after a helicopter crash in 135 00:09:37,000 --> 00:09:40,600 Speaker 3: which I was the only survivor but very seriously injured, 136 00:09:41,280 --> 00:09:44,160 Speaker 3: I was captured by the viet com I was shot, 137 00:09:44,679 --> 00:09:47,640 Speaker 3: I was tied up. I was march barefoot for over 138 00:09:47,720 --> 00:09:52,599 Speaker 3: thirty days to a pow camp in the jungle, where. 139 00:09:52,320 --> 00:09:54,280 Speaker 1: We lived for three and a half years. 140 00:09:55,360 --> 00:09:58,680 Speaker 3: Most of the time we had nothing, no shoes, no clothes, 141 00:09:58,720 --> 00:10:02,760 Speaker 3: no medicine, no blanket, no tobacco, no soap, no toothpaste, 142 00:10:03,240 --> 00:10:06,760 Speaker 3: and very little food. And it was cold. It was 143 00:10:06,880 --> 00:10:11,040 Speaker 3: very cold. It was in the mountains. We were shackled, 144 00:10:11,160 --> 00:10:17,320 Speaker 3: beaten and starved. We suffered. Half of us died. The 145 00:10:17,440 --> 00:10:22,040 Speaker 3: enemy attempted to separate us by race and indoctrinated us differently. 146 00:10:22,600 --> 00:10:26,600 Speaker 3: They gave up on that early. We were Americans, and 147 00:10:26,640 --> 00:10:30,800 Speaker 3: we stuck together. We slept on the same bamboo palette 148 00:10:30,920 --> 00:10:34,079 Speaker 3: as much as twenty men, and we were sick together. 149 00:10:34,720 --> 00:10:39,280 Speaker 3: We nursed and we cleaned each other. We got no letters, 150 00:10:39,840 --> 00:10:44,040 Speaker 3: no Red Cross packages. We got nothing. We had one 151 00:10:44,120 --> 00:10:48,160 Speaker 3: book for a while, a Catholic missile that was issued 152 00:10:48,160 --> 00:10:51,960 Speaker 3: by the United States Marine Corps, from which the enemy 153 00:10:52,960 --> 00:10:55,840 Speaker 3: had torn out the first two pages, the one with 154 00:10:55,920 --> 00:10:58,800 Speaker 3: a picture of the American flag on page one and 155 00:10:58,880 --> 00:11:01,800 Speaker 3: the first stands of the star spangled banner on the 156 00:11:01,840 --> 00:11:07,679 Speaker 3: second page. When a man died, we wrapped him in bamboo. 157 00:11:08,280 --> 00:11:12,280 Speaker 3: We dug his grave, we buried him, we eulogized him. 158 00:11:12,720 --> 00:11:15,960 Speaker 3: We marked his grave with bamboo and rocks. 159 00:11:17,880 --> 00:11:23,199 Speaker 1: And I can report to you today that thanks to JPAK. 160 00:11:24,200 --> 00:11:29,640 Speaker 3: The Joint Pow Mia Accounting Command, every single one of 161 00:11:29,679 --> 00:11:35,000 Speaker 3: our dead brothers has been repatriated where they lie in 162 00:11:35,080 --> 00:11:38,480 Speaker 3: the shadow of their families, in the soil of their country, 163 00:11:38,960 --> 00:11:43,640 Speaker 3: where they belong. I remember each one of them, and 164 00:11:43,679 --> 00:11:50,360 Speaker 3: I remember the prayers we said over their graves. And 165 00:11:50,440 --> 00:11:53,960 Speaker 3: the mystic chords of memory which President Lincoln spoke about, 166 00:11:54,120 --> 00:11:55,360 Speaker 3: are not mystic at all. 167 00:11:55,920 --> 00:11:59,600 Speaker 1: They're real, and they're strong, and they never go away. 168 00:12:01,040 --> 00:12:03,200 Speaker 3: After three and a half years in the jungle and 169 00:12:03,320 --> 00:12:07,240 Speaker 3: thirteen desks, we walked five hundred and forty miles to 170 00:12:07,320 --> 00:12:08,080 Speaker 3: North Vietnam. 171 00:12:08,920 --> 00:12:11,800 Speaker 1: We walked to jail. We spent two more years in 172 00:12:11,840 --> 00:12:15,240 Speaker 1: a cruel jail. In the summer, we roasted. In the winter, 173 00:12:15,360 --> 00:12:16,560 Speaker 1: we were cold and damp. 174 00:12:17,120 --> 00:12:20,720 Speaker 3: We had a thin pumpkin soup, bread, a little piece 175 00:12:20,720 --> 00:12:22,959 Speaker 3: of bread, and two cups of water. 176 00:12:23,120 --> 00:12:26,839 Speaker 1: Twice a day. We were six to a room. 177 00:12:27,320 --> 00:12:30,360 Speaker 3: We had a bucket for a latrine, and we were 178 00:12:30,400 --> 00:12:36,840 Speaker 3: forbidden from speaking to anyone not in the room. Finally, finally, 179 00:12:37,559 --> 00:12:42,400 Speaker 3: after the B fifty two bombing of Hanoi, Operation Linebacker two, 180 00:12:43,280 --> 00:12:49,760 Speaker 3: the piece was signed on twenty seven January nineteen seventy three. 181 00:12:50,160 --> 00:12:53,160 Speaker 3: I left Hanoi on the sixteenth of March. I returned 182 00:12:53,200 --> 00:12:57,640 Speaker 3: to American control. When I saw that magnificent C one 183 00:12:57,800 --> 00:13:01,600 Speaker 3: forty one Starlifter with our American flag on the tail 184 00:13:02,400 --> 00:13:05,960 Speaker 3: USAF on the fuselage, I was overcome. 185 00:13:06,400 --> 00:13:09,000 Speaker 1: I was absolutely overcome. I almost fainted. 186 00:13:09,559 --> 00:13:12,040 Speaker 3: I had not seen our flag in five and a 187 00:13:12,080 --> 00:13:17,400 Speaker 3: half years. I thought of that old Negro spiritual we 188 00:13:17,520 --> 00:13:22,240 Speaker 3: learned in grammar school. Swing low, sweet Cherriot coming forward 189 00:13:22,240 --> 00:13:27,120 Speaker 3: to carry me home. A little over a week later, 190 00:13:27,160 --> 00:13:30,280 Speaker 3: at Valley Fords General Hospital in Pennsylvania, I met my 191 00:13:30,400 --> 00:13:34,120 Speaker 3: five year old son for the first time, and I 192 00:13:34,160 --> 00:13:36,439 Speaker 3: saw my nine and a half year old daughter for. 193 00:13:36,400 --> 00:13:38,600 Speaker 1: The first time since she was three and a half. 194 00:13:39,679 --> 00:13:41,480 Speaker 3: I was in and out of the hospital for four 195 00:13:41,520 --> 00:13:45,160 Speaker 3: months in a casualty status. I had four surgeries, and 196 00:13:45,200 --> 00:13:49,920 Speaker 3: I went back to duty in August of nineteen seventy three. 197 00:13:50,520 --> 00:13:52,480 Speaker 3: I lost five and a half years of my life, 198 00:13:52,880 --> 00:13:58,520 Speaker 3: fifty pounds, seventeenth, ten brothers, and I missed my children 199 00:13:58,600 --> 00:14:03,000 Speaker 3: growing up. I have no bitterness at all. I feel fortunate, 200 00:14:03,559 --> 00:14:06,640 Speaker 3: I'm proud, and I'm honored that I could serve my 201 00:14:06,720 --> 00:14:11,800 Speaker 3: country under the most difficult circumstances, and I returned with 202 00:14:11,920 --> 00:14:18,319 Speaker 3: even more love and devotion for my and your exceptional America. 203 00:14:20,160 --> 00:14:23,400 Speaker 3: There were twelve survivors in our camp in the jungle. 204 00:14:24,000 --> 00:14:27,360 Speaker 1: Three have died, six were able to come to a. 205 00:14:27,320 --> 00:14:30,960 Speaker 3: Banquet that my wife, Gail and I hosted just a 206 00:14:30,960 --> 00:14:33,680 Speaker 3: few months ago in October twenty seventeen. 207 00:14:33,960 --> 00:14:34,600 Speaker 1: David came. 208 00:14:36,680 --> 00:14:40,760 Speaker 3: There were six men, three white, three black, with their families. 209 00:14:41,000 --> 00:14:44,160 Speaker 3: Several brought children and grandchildren, so there were sixteen of 210 00:14:44,240 --> 00:14:47,280 Speaker 3: us in all. We had a great banquet and a 211 00:14:47,320 --> 00:14:52,600 Speaker 3: fancy restaurant in Orlando, and each man, every single man, 212 00:14:53,120 --> 00:14:57,120 Speaker 3: spoke spontaneously of his love for the others, and how 213 00:14:57,160 --> 00:15:01,320 Speaker 3: we had nurtured and sustained each other, and how none 214 00:15:01,360 --> 00:15:04,080 Speaker 3: of us would have survived if it hadn't been for 215 00:15:04,160 --> 00:15:09,400 Speaker 3: all of us. In these days of racial division, identity politics. 216 00:15:09,440 --> 00:15:14,680 Speaker 3: I wish the whole country had seen our banquet. Shakespeare, 217 00:15:14,720 --> 00:15:19,520 Speaker 3: as usual has it rightew we happy few, We band 218 00:15:19,600 --> 00:15:23,400 Speaker 3: of brothers. For he that sheds his blood with me 219 00:15:24,080 --> 00:15:26,840 Speaker 3: this day shall be my brother. 220 00:15:27,600 --> 00:15:32,560 Speaker 1: And indeed those men, those six men, they are my brothers. 221 00:15:33,440 --> 00:15:34,520 Speaker 1: And Shakespeare knew. 222 00:15:34,400 --> 00:15:38,640 Speaker 3: About veterans too, for he says that he that survives 223 00:15:38,680 --> 00:15:42,840 Speaker 3: this day and comes safe, safe home, will stand a 224 00:15:42,920 --> 00:15:46,000 Speaker 3: tiptoe when this day is named, and. 225 00:15:46,040 --> 00:15:48,600 Speaker 1: Strip his sleeve and show his scars. 226 00:15:49,360 --> 00:15:54,000 Speaker 3: We all have scars, physical scars, maybe mental ones. But 227 00:15:54,120 --> 00:15:57,840 Speaker 3: I am so grateful and so fortunate that I was 228 00:15:57,920 --> 00:16:02,160 Speaker 3: able to make a contribution, and unlike the over fifty 229 00:16:02,200 --> 00:16:07,480 Speaker 3: eight thousand men and eight women on this wall, I 230 00:16:07,640 --> 00:16:12,280 Speaker 3: came safe home. We have humble gratitude for their service 231 00:16:12,400 --> 00:16:17,560 Speaker 3: and their enduring sacrifice, not just Memorial. 232 00:16:17,120 --> 00:16:19,800 Speaker 1: Day, but every single day that we live. 233 00:16:21,160 --> 00:16:24,920 Speaker 3: President Reagan reminded us, He said, we see these soldiers 234 00:16:24,920 --> 00:16:27,400 Speaker 3: as old and wise, but most were boys. 235 00:16:27,440 --> 00:16:28,160 Speaker 1: When they died. 236 00:16:28,680 --> 00:16:31,400 Speaker 3: They gave up two lives for their country, the one 237 00:16:31,400 --> 00:16:34,440 Speaker 3: they were living and the one they would have lived. 238 00:16:34,960 --> 00:16:38,400 Speaker 3: They gave up their chance to be husbands and fathers 239 00:16:38,440 --> 00:16:42,680 Speaker 3: and grandfathers. They gave up their chance to be like us, 240 00:16:43,240 --> 00:16:47,360 Speaker 3: revered old men. They gave up everything for their country. 241 00:16:48,160 --> 00:16:53,240 Speaker 3: And all we can do is remember, remember and be grateful. 242 00:16:54,520 --> 00:16:59,280 Speaker 1: Thank you, God, Bless you, God, Bless America. You've got 243 00:17:00,240 --> 00:17:00,960 Speaker 1: Barry Show. 244 00:17:04,320 --> 00:17:09,640 Speaker 2: John Willing, known as Jocko, retired US Navy officer who 245 00:17:09,680 --> 00:17:13,000 Speaker 2: served in the Navy Seals. Former member of Seal Team three. 246 00:17:13,440 --> 00:17:16,920 Speaker 2: Willingk's military service includes combat actions in the Iraq War, 247 00:17:16,960 --> 00:17:20,560 Speaker 2: where he commanded Seal Team three's Task Unit Bruiser, the 248 00:17:20,640 --> 00:17:23,719 Speaker 2: unit that fought in the battle against the Iraqi insurgents 249 00:17:23,720 --> 00:17:27,280 Speaker 2: in Ramadi. Willing was honored with the Silver Star and 250 00:17:27,359 --> 00:17:30,200 Speaker 2: Bronze Star for his service. He's known now as a 251 00:17:30,240 --> 00:17:34,040 Speaker 2: podcaster and a motivational speaker. And you are about to 252 00:17:34,080 --> 00:17:34,879 Speaker 2: find out why. 253 00:17:35,160 --> 00:17:38,920 Speaker 4: In a country that most people would struggle to find 254 00:17:38,960 --> 00:17:43,439 Speaker 4: on a map, in a compound that few possessed the 255 00:17:43,600 --> 00:17:49,439 Speaker 4: courage to enter, men from my previous life took the 256 00:17:49,520 --> 00:17:56,639 Speaker 4: fight to our enemy. In that compound, they found men 257 00:17:56,640 --> 00:18:04,160 Speaker 4: that pray five times a day for your destruction. Those 258 00:18:04,280 --> 00:18:08,760 Speaker 4: praying men don't know me, they don't know you, and 259 00:18:08,800 --> 00:18:15,520 Speaker 4: they don't know America. They don't understand our compassion, our freedoms, 260 00:18:16,680 --> 00:18:22,280 Speaker 4: and our tolerance. I know it may seem as if 261 00:18:22,440 --> 00:18:26,679 Speaker 4: some of those things are currently missing, but they remain 262 00:18:27,119 --> 00:18:31,680 Speaker 4: at our core and always will. Those men don't care 263 00:18:31,720 --> 00:18:36,280 Speaker 4: about your religious beliefs. They don't care about your political opinions. 264 00:18:36,880 --> 00:18:39,040 Speaker 4: They don't care if you sit on the left or 265 00:18:39,080 --> 00:18:46,000 Speaker 4: the right, liberal or conservative, pacifist or warrior. They don't 266 00:18:46,080 --> 00:18:50,280 Speaker 4: care how much you believe in diversity, equality, or freedom 267 00:18:50,320 --> 00:18:56,760 Speaker 4: of speech. They don't care. I'm sorry you've never felt 268 00:18:56,800 --> 00:18:59,960 Speaker 4: the alarm bells ringing in your body, the combination of 269 00:19:00,160 --> 00:19:05,280 Speaker 4: fear and adrenaline as you move towards the fight instead 270 00:19:05,280 --> 00:19:10,399 Speaker 4: of running from it. I'm sorry you've never heard someone 271 00:19:10,480 --> 00:19:13,639 Speaker 4: cry out for help, or cried out for help yourself, 272 00:19:14,680 --> 00:19:18,440 Speaker 4: relying on the courage of others to bring you home. 273 00:19:21,520 --> 00:19:24,240 Speaker 4: I'm sorry you've never tasted the salt from your own 274 00:19:24,320 --> 00:19:28,880 Speaker 4: tears as you stand at flag draped coffins bearing men 275 00:19:29,000 --> 00:19:35,800 Speaker 4: you were humbled to call your friends. I don't wish 276 00:19:35,960 --> 00:19:48,080 Speaker 4: those experiences on you, but I do wish you had them. 277 00:19:48,160 --> 00:19:50,879 Speaker 4: If you had them, it would change the way you act. 278 00:19:52,240 --> 00:19:54,879 Speaker 4: It would change the way you value, It would change 279 00:19:54,920 --> 00:20:00,800 Speaker 4: the way you appreciate. You would become quick to open 280 00:20:00,840 --> 00:20:07,600 Speaker 4: your eyes and slow to open your mouth. Most will 281 00:20:07,600 --> 00:20:11,479 Speaker 4: never understand the sacrifice required to keep evil men like 282 00:20:11,520 --> 00:20:16,600 Speaker 4: those from that distant compound away from our doorstep. But 283 00:20:16,680 --> 00:20:21,240 Speaker 4: it would not hurt you to try and understand. It 284 00:20:21,359 --> 00:20:24,760 Speaker 4: would not hurt you to take a moment to think 285 00:20:25,080 --> 00:20:29,000 Speaker 4: of the relentless drain on family, friends, and loved ones 286 00:20:29,040 --> 00:20:33,840 Speaker 4: that are left behind, sometimes for weeks, sometimes for months, 287 00:20:34,640 --> 00:20:47,960 Speaker 4: sometimes for years, sometimes forever. Ideas are not protected by words. 288 00:20:49,880 --> 00:20:54,159 Speaker 4: Paper and ink may outline the foundation and principles of 289 00:20:54,200 --> 00:21:01,560 Speaker 4: this nation, but it is blood, only blood that protects it. 290 00:21:05,080 --> 00:21:09,120 Speaker 4: In that dusty compound, a man you have never met 291 00:21:09,920 --> 00:21:14,600 Speaker 4: gave everything he had so that you have the freedom 292 00:21:14,720 --> 00:21:22,840 Speaker 4: to think, speak, and act however you choose. He went 293 00:21:22,880 --> 00:21:27,040 Speaker 4: there for all of us, whether you loved or hated 294 00:21:27,200 --> 00:21:32,720 Speaker 4: what he stood for. He went there to preserve the 295 00:21:32,800 --> 00:21:36,600 Speaker 4: opportunity and privilege to believe, to be and to become 296 00:21:36,920 --> 00:21:47,200 Speaker 4: what we want. This country, every single person living inside 297 00:21:47,240 --> 00:21:49,520 Speaker 4: of its borders and under the banner of its flag, 298 00:21:50,200 --> 00:21:57,520 Speaker 4: owe that man. We owe that man everything. We owe 299 00:21:57,640 --> 00:22:03,520 Speaker 4: him the respect that his sacrifice deserves. Saying thank you 300 00:22:04,359 --> 00:22:12,480 Speaker 4: is not enough. We send our best and lose them 301 00:22:12,880 --> 00:22:15,960 Speaker 4: in the fight against the worst evil this world has 302 00:22:16,000 --> 00:22:21,800 Speaker 4: to offer. If you want to respect and honor their sacrifice, 303 00:22:21,960 --> 00:22:24,679 Speaker 4: it needs to be more than words. You have to 304 00:22:24,760 --> 00:22:32,040 Speaker 4: live it. Take a minute and look around, soak it 305 00:22:32,080 --> 00:22:37,639 Speaker 4: in all of it, the good, the bad, and the ugly. 306 00:22:40,440 --> 00:22:44,040 Speaker 4: Do you have the choice every day as to which 307 00:22:44,080 --> 00:22:47,080 Speaker 4: category you want to be, in which direction you want 308 00:22:47,119 --> 00:22:54,120 Speaker 4: to move you have that choice because the best among us, 309 00:22:54,920 --> 00:22:59,720 Speaker 4: the best we ever had to offer, fought and bled 310 00:23:01,080 --> 00:23:07,320 Speaker 4: and died for it. Don't ever forget that. 311 00:23:08,359 --> 00:23:11,760 Speaker 5: This is me, Michael Berry the show. 312 00:23:13,920 --> 00:23:18,040 Speaker 2: Gunnery Sergeant Nick Popaditch had a moment of fame during 313 00:23:18,040 --> 00:23:22,480 Speaker 2: the Iraq War. Then staff sergeant Popoditch was assigned as 314 00:23:22,520 --> 00:23:25,960 Speaker 2: a tank commander and platoon sergeant participating in the two 315 00:23:26,000 --> 00:23:29,520 Speaker 2: thousand and three invasion of Iraq. His unit gained fame 316 00:23:29,560 --> 00:23:32,239 Speaker 2: when it helped topple the statue of Saddam Hussein. On 317 00:23:32,320 --> 00:23:36,600 Speaker 2: April ninth, two thousand and three, Popoditch was photographed in 318 00:23:36,640 --> 00:23:39,840 Speaker 2: his tank's kappola smoking a cigar with a statue of 319 00:23:39,840 --> 00:23:43,479 Speaker 2: Saddam looming in the background. The image, which earned him 320 00:23:43,480 --> 00:23:47,399 Speaker 2: the nickname the Cigar Marine, appeared on the front pages 321 00:23:47,400 --> 00:23:51,320 Speaker 2: of newspapers around the world to describe the Battle of Baghdad. 322 00:23:51,840 --> 00:23:54,280 Speaker 2: He would later reveal that his smoking was a celebration 323 00:23:54,359 --> 00:23:57,920 Speaker 2: of his and his wife's twelfth wedding anniversary, as well 324 00:23:57,960 --> 00:24:00,720 Speaker 2: as the victory. Following his return the US, he was 325 00:24:00,720 --> 00:24:03,760 Speaker 2: promoted to gunnery sergeant and volunteered to return to Iraq 326 00:24:04,560 --> 00:24:05,600 Speaker 2: in two thousand and four. 327 00:24:05,720 --> 00:24:06,480 Speaker 1: The following year. 328 00:24:08,000 --> 00:24:11,080 Speaker 2: During his second deployment, Popaditch commanded tanks again in the 329 00:24:11,080 --> 00:24:14,359 Speaker 2: First Battle of Fallujah in April of four. During the 330 00:24:14,400 --> 00:24:18,359 Speaker 2: Battle of April seventh, supported dismounted infantry with a pair 331 00:24:18,440 --> 00:24:21,919 Speaker 2: of M one one abrams and turning onto a narrow street, 332 00:24:22,760 --> 00:24:25,399 Speaker 2: he opened his hatch for better visibility to despite the 333 00:24:25,520 --> 00:24:30,359 Speaker 2: constant RPG seven attacks, he was wounded in action in 334 00:24:30,400 --> 00:24:33,320 Speaker 2: an ambush when a rocket propelled grenade struck him in 335 00:24:33,359 --> 00:24:38,440 Speaker 2: the head. Blinded and deafened, he struggled to maintain consciousness 336 00:24:38,520 --> 00:24:41,600 Speaker 2: until his tank was moved out of danger, then he 337 00:24:41,720 --> 00:24:46,399 Speaker 2: was evacuated to Germany. After a prolonged stay, he was 338 00:24:46,440 --> 00:24:49,040 Speaker 2: sent to the United States, ultimately losing his right eye 339 00:24:49,119 --> 00:24:51,879 Speaker 2: due to damage to the optic nerve and hearing in 340 00:24:51,880 --> 00:24:55,280 Speaker 2: his right ear. At Naval Medical Center San Diego, some 341 00:24:55,320 --> 00:24:57,440 Speaker 2: of the vision in his remaining left eye was restored 342 00:24:57,440 --> 00:25:00,720 Speaker 2: by the hospital's medical professionalst God Bless them, while his 343 00:25:00,800 --> 00:25:04,520 Speaker 2: ocular prosthesis features the eagle globe and anchor instead of 344 00:25:04,560 --> 00:25:07,720 Speaker 2: a pupil. He was awarded the Silver Star for Actions 345 00:25:07,720 --> 00:25:11,240 Speaker 2: in combat and medically retired at the rank of gunnery searching. 346 00:25:11,760 --> 00:25:14,040 Speaker 2: When you hear his Memorial Day speech. It will be 347 00:25:14,240 --> 00:25:18,560 Speaker 2: immediately obvious you've ever seen a single movie portraying this 348 00:25:18,640 --> 00:25:20,880 Speaker 2: type of character, that he was a gunnery search. 349 00:25:21,240 --> 00:25:30,560 Speaker 6: Allah, I run, thank you. I am honored. 350 00:25:30,560 --> 00:25:32,879 Speaker 7: I'm humbled to be up here in front of so 351 00:25:32,960 --> 00:25:36,720 Speaker 7: many great Americans, amongst so many honorable veterans, so many 352 00:25:36,760 --> 00:25:39,399 Speaker 7: great Americans, and to be able to speak with you 353 00:25:39,440 --> 00:25:43,320 Speaker 7: today on this Memorial Day. I love our veteran history. 354 00:25:43,920 --> 00:25:45,959 Speaker 7: I went to recruit training not too far from here, 355 00:25:45,960 --> 00:25:47,840 Speaker 7: a couple of miles from here, and that's when I 356 00:25:47,880 --> 00:25:50,919 Speaker 7: first started learning about our veterans history. They told us 357 00:25:50,920 --> 00:25:53,720 Speaker 7: about great Americans. In World War One and Bella Woods. 358 00:25:54,200 --> 00:25:56,520 Speaker 7: As the French forces were retreating out of the woods 359 00:25:56,760 --> 00:25:58,240 Speaker 7: under the fire of German. 360 00:25:58,000 --> 00:25:59,720 Speaker 6: Machine guns, a Marine. 361 00:25:59,440 --> 00:26:03,120 Speaker 7: Captain said, retreat, hell, we just got here, and into 362 00:26:03,160 --> 00:26:08,280 Speaker 7: the breach they went. World War Two, the Japanese said 363 00:26:08,280 --> 00:26:10,800 Speaker 7: he would Gimo would last for a thousand years. We 364 00:26:10,880 --> 00:26:18,120 Speaker 7: raised a flag out in three days. In Korea, forces 365 00:26:18,200 --> 00:26:22,400 Speaker 7: surrounded by communist Chinese out number twenty to one, Colonel. 366 00:26:22,160 --> 00:26:24,000 Speaker 6: Chesney Puller said, fellas. 367 00:26:23,880 --> 00:26:25,560 Speaker 7: We got him right, we want and we could shoot 368 00:26:25,600 --> 00:26:32,359 Speaker 7: any direction hit the enemy. In Vietnam, Quisan five hundred 369 00:26:32,400 --> 00:26:34,480 Speaker 7: Americans stood on a hill and said, you will not 370 00:26:34,600 --> 00:26:35,400 Speaker 7: take us off. 371 00:26:35,320 --> 00:26:37,600 Speaker 6: Here out number thirty to one. 372 00:26:37,840 --> 00:26:41,560 Speaker 7: North Vietnamese force attacked him for seventy seven days and 373 00:26:41,640 --> 00:26:42,840 Speaker 7: finally said, forget it. 374 00:26:43,080 --> 00:26:45,320 Speaker 6: We can't take them. You can have it. They went home. 375 00:26:46,920 --> 00:26:52,600 Speaker 7: I rah, that's the history passed down to our generation. 376 00:26:52,960 --> 00:26:55,159 Speaker 7: And when it came my time, I was honored. I 377 00:26:55,200 --> 00:26:57,560 Speaker 7: was privileged to serve with the first Mareen Division. I 378 00:26:57,640 --> 00:26:59,640 Speaker 7: was part of the march up to Baghdad in this war. 379 00:26:59,680 --> 00:27:02,520 Speaker 7: On ten we got to bad Dad. That's where a 380 00:27:02,520 --> 00:27:05,679 Speaker 7: Memorial Day truly came home for me. We were in 381 00:27:05,680 --> 00:27:09,159 Speaker 7: a place called Ferno Square. The Iraqi people embraced us 382 00:27:09,200 --> 00:27:12,159 Speaker 7: as an ally, and together we toppled a dictator. And 383 00:27:12,200 --> 00:27:14,600 Speaker 7: when I watched these people in that street of Baghdad, 384 00:27:15,160 --> 00:27:16,440 Speaker 7: I watched them celebrate. 385 00:27:17,200 --> 00:27:18,400 Speaker 6: I watched them rejoice. 386 00:27:18,440 --> 00:27:21,320 Speaker 7: I looked in their faces, and what I realized I 387 00:27:21,400 --> 00:27:24,520 Speaker 7: was looking at was liberty. I was looking at people 388 00:27:24,520 --> 00:27:28,000 Speaker 7: who grown up under a dictator, had never known a 389 00:27:28,119 --> 00:27:31,880 Speaker 7: day's freedom their entire lives. I was in my late thirties. 390 00:27:31,920 --> 00:27:34,040 Speaker 7: I realized I had never known a day in my 391 00:27:34,080 --> 00:27:37,439 Speaker 7: life without it. I had never known a day in 392 00:27:37,480 --> 00:27:40,120 Speaker 7: my life that was their daily reality, and that freedom 393 00:27:40,200 --> 00:27:40,960 Speaker 7: was not free. 394 00:27:41,600 --> 00:27:43,320 Speaker 6: I was born in nineteen sixty seven. 395 00:27:43,680 --> 00:27:46,640 Speaker 7: I was born those Vietnam veterans, you Vietnam veterans out 396 00:27:46,640 --> 00:27:49,080 Speaker 7: there when you were off fighting the spread of communism. 397 00:27:49,240 --> 00:27:51,480 Speaker 7: I was born on your watch under the liberty you 398 00:27:51,520 --> 00:27:55,920 Speaker 7: were providing. That generation before that fought in Korea stopping 399 00:27:55,920 --> 00:27:59,600 Speaker 7: the spread of communism, that greatest generation that stopped those 400 00:27:59,640 --> 00:28:03,919 Speaker 7: totalitarian regimes, that not only defended liberty around the world 401 00:28:04,359 --> 00:28:06,119 Speaker 7: in the Gray Wars, but came home and built the 402 00:28:06,119 --> 00:28:08,160 Speaker 7: greatest prosperity this nation's ever known. 403 00:28:09,040 --> 00:28:09,440 Speaker 4: All wrong. 404 00:28:09,520 --> 00:28:16,520 Speaker 6: I like that. So we have a motto in the 405 00:28:16,560 --> 00:28:17,040 Speaker 6: Marine Corps. 406 00:28:17,119 --> 00:28:20,640 Speaker 7: We say Semper five always faithful, faithful to God, Country 407 00:28:20,640 --> 00:28:21,119 Speaker 7: and Corps. 408 00:28:21,520 --> 00:28:23,240 Speaker 6: And i'm Memorial Day. I want to tell you a 409 00:28:23,280 --> 00:28:24,359 Speaker 6: story of Semper five. 410 00:28:24,960 --> 00:28:26,560 Speaker 7: I want to tell you of a man named Corporal 411 00:28:26,600 --> 00:28:29,320 Speaker 7: Evnen's just sort of a marine that won't be written 412 00:28:29,320 --> 00:28:30,399 Speaker 7: about in history books. 413 00:28:30,560 --> 00:28:32,920 Speaker 6: In a battle that you'll never read about. And it 414 00:28:33,040 --> 00:28:34,400 Speaker 6: was at a place called al Coot. 415 00:28:35,000 --> 00:28:36,960 Speaker 7: We were assaulted from the flank and we did what 416 00:28:37,040 --> 00:28:38,400 Speaker 7: we did what Americans do. 417 00:28:38,880 --> 00:28:41,040 Speaker 6: We turned their ambush side into their kill zone. 418 00:28:41,080 --> 00:28:45,480 Speaker 7: We turned in and attacked into the ambush, Amtrak's dropped ramps, 419 00:28:45,520 --> 00:28:48,160 Speaker 7: marines charging to the Palm Grove. Corporal Evening was one 420 00:28:48,160 --> 00:28:51,160 Speaker 7: of those marines on his way into the grove because 421 00:28:51,160 --> 00:28:54,360 Speaker 7: it was a horrible fight. It was close range, hand grenades, 422 00:28:54,400 --> 00:28:58,320 Speaker 7: machine guns, nasty fight. On Eviden's way in, he was 423 00:28:58,360 --> 00:29:01,280 Speaker 7: struck down by an AK forty seven around just below 424 00:29:01,320 --> 00:29:03,800 Speaker 7: the flat jacket, right in the lower abdomen region. Bad 425 00:29:03,840 --> 00:29:07,400 Speaker 7: wound was still alive. He was pulled out onto the road, 426 00:29:07,480 --> 00:29:10,160 Speaker 7: Meta backed out onto the road. Marines around him, corman 427 00:29:10,200 --> 00:29:11,880 Speaker 7: around him were applying first aid. 428 00:29:12,440 --> 00:29:14,560 Speaker 6: But it was a horrible wound. He was probably not 429 00:29:14,600 --> 00:29:15,280 Speaker 6: gonna survive. 430 00:29:16,000 --> 00:29:19,160 Speaker 7: Those individuals admitting the first administering the first aid knew it, 431 00:29:20,000 --> 00:29:23,400 Speaker 7: and more importantly, Corporal Evnon knew it. We all talk 432 00:29:23,440 --> 00:29:27,640 Speaker 7: about courage, honor, commitment, but the real deal, American, that 433 00:29:27,760 --> 00:29:30,480 Speaker 7: real deal, guys at one, when you're up against the wall, 434 00:29:30,760 --> 00:29:31,960 Speaker 7: up against adversity, do. 435 00:29:31,960 --> 00:29:32,640 Speaker 6: You believe in it? 436 00:29:32,680 --> 00:29:32,880 Speaker 4: Then? 437 00:29:33,720 --> 00:29:35,640 Speaker 7: So they looked down at Corporal Evnon, knowing he was 438 00:29:35,680 --> 00:29:37,720 Speaker 7: going to die, and they just wanted to make his 439 00:29:37,760 --> 00:29:39,600 Speaker 7: life a little bit more comfortable. On the way out 440 00:29:39,640 --> 00:29:42,680 Speaker 7: the door and they said, Ebnen, is there anything we 441 00:29:42,720 --> 00:29:45,360 Speaker 7: can do for you anything, just trying to ease the pain. 442 00:29:46,200 --> 00:29:50,440 Speaker 7: Evnen looked up with the clarity, the courage, honor, commitment 443 00:29:50,480 --> 00:29:52,600 Speaker 7: that we all hope we have at that moment, and 444 00:29:52,640 --> 00:29:55,080 Speaker 7: he said, no, I'm right where I want to be. 445 00:29:55,320 --> 00:29:59,000 Speaker 7: I'm here with my brothers and corporal evening passed. 446 00:30:00,240 --> 00:30:00,400 Speaker 3: Day. 447 00:30:00,880 --> 00:30:04,880 Speaker 7: I'm privileged to stand in front of so many great 448 00:30:04,920 --> 00:30:08,480 Speaker 7: Americans as you honor those fallen and say thank you, 449 00:30:09,080 --> 00:30:12,080 Speaker 7: thank you for my freedom, thank you for this great nation. 450 00:30:12,520 --> 00:30:14,280 Speaker 6: God bless America, God bless you. 451 00:30:16,600 --> 00:30:19,600 Speaker 5: If you like the Michael Berry Show and Podcast, please 452 00:30:19,840 --> 00:30:23,960 Speaker 5: tell one friend, and if you're so inclined, write a 453 00:30:24,080 --> 00:30:29,120 Speaker 5: nice review of our podcast. 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