1 00:00:01,280 --> 00:00:04,120 Speaker 1: Welcome to the Giants Huddle. Get him him in, Huddle 2 00:00:04,280 --> 00:00:07,920 Speaker 1: Him in New York Giants Podcast. My name is John Smolkin. 3 00:00:08,039 --> 00:00:11,719 Speaker 1: Welcome to another edition of the Giants Huddle podcast. Thank 4 00:00:11,720 --> 00:00:14,120 Speaker 1: you for being with us. If you're listening on Giants 5 00:00:14,160 --> 00:00:16,360 Speaker 1: dot Com or the Giants Mobile app, that's great. But 6 00:00:16,440 --> 00:00:18,840 Speaker 1: it's easier for you and it's better for us if 7 00:00:18,840 --> 00:00:21,520 Speaker 1: you go to your favorite podcast platform, subscribe, adds to 8 00:00:21,560 --> 00:00:24,400 Speaker 1: your favorites. If you're on Apple Podcast, leave a positive 9 00:00:24,440 --> 00:00:26,479 Speaker 1: review or a good rating. But we're on Google Play, 10 00:00:26,520 --> 00:00:28,880 Speaker 1: We're on Spotify, We're on tune In, We're on Stitcher. 11 00:00:29,320 --> 00:00:32,879 Speaker 1: Make sure you make us part of your feed. Today's 12 00:00:32,920 --> 00:00:36,800 Speaker 1: podcast features interviews with the Giants assistant coaches on the 13 00:00:36,880 --> 00:00:39,800 Speaker 1: defensive side of the ball. We'll talk to defensive backs 14 00:00:39,840 --> 00:00:44,240 Speaker 1: coach Everett Withers, outside linebacker coach Mike Dawson, inside linebackers 15 00:00:44,240 --> 00:00:48,600 Speaker 1: coach Bill McGovern, and defensive line coach Gary Emmanuel. Let's 16 00:00:48,640 --> 00:00:51,920 Speaker 1: start with one of the newest Giants assistants, and that's 17 00:00:51,960 --> 00:00:55,680 Speaker 1: Everett Withers, who has a very unique background. He spent 18 00:00:55,760 --> 00:00:58,560 Speaker 1: five years from two thousand and fourteen to two thousand 19 00:00:58,640 --> 00:01:02,400 Speaker 1: and eighteen being a head coaching college. Now he heads 20 00:01:02,400 --> 00:01:04,720 Speaker 1: back to the NFL, where he was last with the 21 00:01:04,760 --> 00:01:07,279 Speaker 1: Tennessee Titans from two thousand and one to two thousand 22 00:01:07,319 --> 00:01:11,160 Speaker 1: and six, and he returns to coaching positions. I started 23 00:01:11,160 --> 00:01:13,800 Speaker 1: an interview with him by asking him if it's fun 24 00:01:13,840 --> 00:01:17,039 Speaker 1: to be back coaching a position rather than being a 25 00:01:17,120 --> 00:01:19,680 Speaker 1: head coach. Well, I tell people this all the time. 26 00:01:19,800 --> 00:01:21,880 Speaker 1: You know, from for the last five years, I've been 27 00:01:21,920 --> 00:01:24,440 Speaker 1: a head coach, and I've missed coaching more more in 28 00:01:24,520 --> 00:01:26,959 Speaker 1: that time than in any other time in my career. 29 00:01:27,040 --> 00:01:29,720 Speaker 1: So to answer your question, yes, it's so much fun 30 00:01:29,760 --> 00:01:32,680 Speaker 1: to get back to actually uh doing X and exs 31 00:01:32,720 --> 00:01:35,920 Speaker 1: and ohs with a position group and uh and and 32 00:01:36,000 --> 00:01:38,600 Speaker 1: spending time with that group. Now I'm not sure if 33 00:01:38,640 --> 00:01:40,880 Speaker 1: they planned this, but they're gonna have a guy that's 34 00:01:40,880 --> 00:01:43,320 Speaker 1: been head coaching college coaching a bunch of guys last 35 00:01:43,319 --> 00:01:44,880 Speaker 1: time they've played have been in college. You have so 36 00:01:44,920 --> 00:01:47,880 Speaker 1: many new cornerbacks in your room. How can you help 37 00:01:47,920 --> 00:01:50,559 Speaker 1: those guys with your experience and you have prior coaching 38 00:01:50,560 --> 00:01:53,200 Speaker 1: experience in the NFL as well, help those guys make 39 00:01:53,240 --> 00:01:55,600 Speaker 1: the transition? And what's the toughest part for a cornerback? 40 00:01:55,640 --> 00:01:57,400 Speaker 1: To go from the college to the pros because a 41 00:01:57,400 --> 00:01:59,160 Speaker 1: lot of times it's it's a long transition time for 42 00:01:59,200 --> 00:02:02,880 Speaker 1: these guys. Well, you know, I do think that the 43 00:02:02,920 --> 00:02:07,320 Speaker 1: fact that I have just come from from the FBS level, Uh, 44 00:02:07,600 --> 00:02:10,920 Speaker 1: that will you know, obviously give them someone that they 45 00:02:10,919 --> 00:02:12,919 Speaker 1: can talk to, a talk you know about going from 46 00:02:13,000 --> 00:02:15,760 Speaker 1: FBS to the NFL and then haven't been in the 47 00:02:15,840 --> 00:02:19,760 Speaker 1: NFL understanding the NFL game. Hopefully I'll be an asset 48 00:02:19,840 --> 00:02:22,040 Speaker 1: to those players and and and you know, just try 49 00:02:22,120 --> 00:02:24,520 Speaker 1: to you know, get them to understand the games you know, 50 00:02:24,680 --> 00:02:27,079 Speaker 1: so much different from college in is to the NFL, 51 00:02:27,120 --> 00:02:29,519 Speaker 1: and maybe be able to help in some aspect, whether 52 00:02:29,520 --> 00:02:32,760 Speaker 1: it be schematically or whether it be just lifestyle and 53 00:02:32,800 --> 00:02:35,359 Speaker 1: how do you go about your business? How much more 54 00:02:35,400 --> 00:02:37,840 Speaker 1: important when they get to this level as technique, you know, 55 00:02:37,880 --> 00:02:40,400 Speaker 1: in college they're going against limited rout trees a lot 56 00:02:40,440 --> 00:02:41,840 Speaker 1: of the time. Right here you've got you know, world 57 00:02:41,840 --> 00:02:43,640 Speaker 1: class athletes doing a bunch of different stuff they've been 58 00:02:43,680 --> 00:02:46,519 Speaker 1: seen before. How important is to draw that proper technique 59 00:02:46,520 --> 00:02:48,880 Speaker 1: into them so they can have the success up here? Well, 60 00:02:48,960 --> 00:02:51,720 Speaker 1: it's it's paramount, I think, Uh, you know, technique and 61 00:02:51,720 --> 00:02:56,160 Speaker 1: fundamentals at this level are truly important. Uh. Everybody's an 62 00:02:56,200 --> 00:03:00,880 Speaker 1: elite athlete here. Uh. And so your technique, in your fundamentals, 63 00:03:00,880 --> 00:03:03,240 Speaker 1: that's what you're gonna fall back to. Always say you're 64 00:03:03,240 --> 00:03:06,200 Speaker 1: gonna revert back to your training, and uh it's important 65 00:03:06,240 --> 00:03:09,079 Speaker 1: that that your training is good training, you're good fundamentals 66 00:03:09,080 --> 00:03:13,200 Speaker 1: and technique. Talk about DeAndre Baker. First, his production for 67 00:03:13,240 --> 00:03:15,600 Speaker 1: a corner in college is unbelievable. Then allow a touchdown 68 00:03:15,600 --> 00:03:18,440 Speaker 1: for two years, less than ten first downs last year? 69 00:03:18,520 --> 00:03:21,160 Speaker 1: What is it about his approach and ability as a 70 00:03:21,160 --> 00:03:24,119 Speaker 1: corner that you like? Well, you turn on his game 71 00:03:24,240 --> 00:03:26,360 Speaker 1: day tape and he's a competitor and that's the first 72 00:03:26,400 --> 00:03:29,600 Speaker 1: thing that jumps off to the tape is how much 73 00:03:29,680 --> 00:03:32,359 Speaker 1: he competes. Uh. And again he's playing at a high 74 00:03:32,440 --> 00:03:35,760 Speaker 1: level in the SEC and and uh each week he's 75 00:03:35,840 --> 00:03:40,200 Speaker 1: being challenged by you know, talented players. So his uh, 76 00:03:40,400 --> 00:03:44,880 Speaker 1: his competitive spirits uh truly high. Uh. He's got a 77 00:03:44,920 --> 00:03:49,000 Speaker 1: lot of uh this natural ability and uh, I think 78 00:03:49,040 --> 00:03:51,120 Speaker 1: that brings, you know a lot to the table. Now 79 00:03:51,160 --> 00:03:55,400 Speaker 1: it's about refining technique and fundamentals and understanding the NFL game. 80 00:03:55,480 --> 00:03:58,640 Speaker 1: And Uh, I think he's uh a guy that you 81 00:03:58,680 --> 00:04:00,920 Speaker 1: know we're really counting on to to help us this ue. 82 00:04:01,280 --> 00:04:03,440 Speaker 1: I loved watching Julian Love and Notre Dame. I'd like 83 00:04:03,480 --> 00:04:05,640 Speaker 1: to say he's not a cornerback. He's a football player. 84 00:04:05,680 --> 00:04:07,160 Speaker 1: He can do a little bit of everything. Right, you 85 00:04:07,160 --> 00:04:09,880 Speaker 1: can tackle his own man, slot inside, outside. Now you 86 00:04:09,880 --> 00:04:11,880 Speaker 1: guys are working with safety a little bit too. Can 87 00:04:11,920 --> 00:04:14,680 Speaker 1: he talking about what his versatility brings to your room? Well, 88 00:04:14,880 --> 00:04:17,440 Speaker 1: I think you just hit it all. He has versatility 89 00:04:17,480 --> 00:04:20,039 Speaker 1: to do a lot of different things. Play to Nickel, Uh, 90 00:04:20,080 --> 00:04:22,320 Speaker 1: he could go outside and play corner. Like you said, 91 00:04:22,360 --> 00:04:24,680 Speaker 1: we've used him at safety, so I'm doing doing many 92 00:04:24,760 --> 00:04:28,360 Speaker 1: camps so uh. And he's smart. And you know, it's 93 00:04:28,400 --> 00:04:30,880 Speaker 1: hard to be versatible if you're not smart. And uh, 94 00:04:30,920 --> 00:04:34,279 Speaker 1: he is smart. So we're excited about that. We're glad 95 00:04:34,320 --> 00:04:36,760 Speaker 1: we've got him. He'll he'll be a guy it uh 96 00:04:36,880 --> 00:04:40,880 Speaker 1: at depth every position and challenges for Nickel and and 97 00:04:40,880 --> 00:04:43,680 Speaker 1: and playing time all over the field. So um, we're 98 00:04:43,680 --> 00:04:45,680 Speaker 1: excited to have him. When you get your hands on 99 00:04:45,760 --> 00:04:49,640 Speaker 1: Corey Ballentine for going from Washburn to the New York Giants, 100 00:04:49,960 --> 00:04:52,240 Speaker 1: that's not one step, that's like four or five steps. Right, 101 00:04:52,600 --> 00:04:54,440 Speaker 1: what's the key for him? To get to to get 102 00:04:54,480 --> 00:04:58,040 Speaker 1: going early in his NFL career. Well, uh, you know, 103 00:04:58,080 --> 00:05:01,000 Speaker 1: I think first of all, you know, from you know 104 00:05:01,320 --> 00:05:04,839 Speaker 1: what he just went through with the tragedy, uh, with 105 00:05:04,960 --> 00:05:08,280 Speaker 1: losing his best friend. Uh, you know, the night the 106 00:05:08,400 --> 00:05:11,880 Speaker 1: night of the draft. Uh, you know, that's gotta be tough. 107 00:05:11,880 --> 00:05:13,640 Speaker 1: So we you know, first of all, our our thoughts 108 00:05:13,640 --> 00:05:16,400 Speaker 1: are off to his to his family, his friends, family, 109 00:05:16,960 --> 00:05:19,880 Speaker 1: and uh, you know, we're excited about getting him here 110 00:05:19,920 --> 00:05:22,640 Speaker 1: and getting him in the in the Giants family so 111 00:05:22,720 --> 00:05:25,080 Speaker 1: he can be part of that. But yeah, I think 112 00:05:25,080 --> 00:05:26,640 Speaker 1: it'll be fun to get him and get him back 113 00:05:26,680 --> 00:05:28,120 Speaker 1: on the field. He's got a lot of ability and 114 00:05:28,120 --> 00:05:30,280 Speaker 1: a lot of talent. Sam Bill is someone that's been 115 00:05:30,279 --> 00:05:31,640 Speaker 1: here a year, but he's kind of a mystery to 116 00:05:31,680 --> 00:05:33,600 Speaker 1: Giant fans because he was rehabbing most of the time. 117 00:05:33,600 --> 00:05:36,039 Speaker 1: He had three plays in one practice then he unfortunately 118 00:05:36,120 --> 00:05:38,039 Speaker 1: heard his shoulder. What did his team from him in 119 00:05:38,080 --> 00:05:40,240 Speaker 1: your exposure to him so far and just in terms 120 00:05:40,240 --> 00:05:41,800 Speaker 1: of his traits and how that might be able to 121 00:05:41,800 --> 00:05:45,200 Speaker 1: translate to the pros. Well, he's obviously got a lot 122 00:05:45,200 --> 00:05:51,200 Speaker 1: of natural athleticism, natural ability, just god given ability. Um, 123 00:05:51,240 --> 00:05:53,720 Speaker 1: you know, obviously we haven't seen much because it's in 124 00:05:53,800 --> 00:05:56,360 Speaker 1: an early stage of the off season. But what I'm 125 00:05:56,360 --> 00:05:58,480 Speaker 1: seeing so far as a guy is eager to work 126 00:05:58,520 --> 00:06:01,680 Speaker 1: and learn, and uh, hopefully that translate to a guy 127 00:06:01,720 --> 00:06:04,039 Speaker 1: that can add depth and continue to compete for for 128 00:06:04,120 --> 00:06:06,200 Speaker 1: playing time. Force. Finally, I got to ask you about 129 00:06:06,240 --> 00:06:09,920 Speaker 1: the safeties in your room too. Tribrio Peppers his versatiles hack. 130 00:06:09,960 --> 00:06:11,560 Speaker 1: He can do a lot of different things. Do you 131 00:06:11,600 --> 00:06:13,560 Speaker 1: see him as a Swiss army knife or you're gonna 132 00:06:13,560 --> 00:06:15,320 Speaker 1: try to figure out what he does best and use 133 00:06:15,400 --> 00:06:17,719 Speaker 1: him there. Well, I think the first, first of all, 134 00:06:17,760 --> 00:06:20,320 Speaker 1: we've we've got to get him, uh, you know, acclimated 135 00:06:20,360 --> 00:06:23,600 Speaker 1: to our schematics system. Uh. And I don't think that 136 00:06:23,640 --> 00:06:25,880 Speaker 1: will take long. He's such an eager guy to learn 137 00:06:26,000 --> 00:06:29,360 Speaker 1: and and the work. So once you do that, you know, obviously, 138 00:06:29,600 --> 00:06:32,040 Speaker 1: you know you want to build what he does, you know, 139 00:06:32,400 --> 00:06:34,919 Speaker 1: you know good and try to enhance that. And I 140 00:06:34,960 --> 00:06:37,599 Speaker 1: think we'll do that, uh, and then then from there, 141 00:06:37,640 --> 00:06:39,440 Speaker 1: if he can help us in some other roles, then 142 00:06:39,720 --> 00:06:41,520 Speaker 1: we'll build from there. But we want to know first 143 00:06:41,520 --> 00:06:44,920 Speaker 1: things first, and you know, getting playing good strong safety. Force. 144 00:06:45,200 --> 00:06:47,159 Speaker 1: You talk about a free safety being your last line 145 00:06:47,160 --> 00:06:48,520 Speaker 1: of defense. Well, you have a guy that's been doing 146 00:06:48,520 --> 00:06:50,560 Speaker 1: that a long time. It doesn't make a lot of mistakes. 147 00:06:51,040 --> 00:06:52,480 Speaker 1: How good it is that have like a safety net 148 00:06:52,520 --> 00:06:54,200 Speaker 1: back the every guy that you can just depend on 149 00:06:54,279 --> 00:06:56,160 Speaker 1: to know exactly what to do no matter what the 150 00:06:56,200 --> 00:06:58,960 Speaker 1: offense throws at. And because he's seen everything, well, you know, 151 00:06:59,320 --> 00:07:01,840 Speaker 1: a b is in those guys that Uh he's a 152 00:07:01,880 --> 00:07:04,480 Speaker 1: pros pro. H. He's a guy it every day comes 153 00:07:04,480 --> 00:07:08,599 Speaker 1: to work. Uh. He really helps run the meeting. Uh, 154 00:07:08,640 --> 00:07:10,880 Speaker 1: he's seen it all, like you said. And to have 155 00:07:11,000 --> 00:07:13,640 Speaker 1: that guy back there's really really special for a group, 156 00:07:13,920 --> 00:07:16,520 Speaker 1: not only just for for practicing game days, but for 157 00:07:16,560 --> 00:07:20,320 Speaker 1: the meeting and and helping young guys understand what's going 158 00:07:20,400 --> 00:07:23,160 Speaker 1: on within our system. Ever, good stuff. We appreciate it, 159 00:07:23,200 --> 00:07:25,400 Speaker 1: and well, thank you for having me. That's Everett Withers. 160 00:07:25,800 --> 00:07:29,320 Speaker 1: Now let's turn our attention to Mike Dawson, another new 161 00:07:29,320 --> 00:07:31,920 Speaker 1: addition to the Giants coaching staff this year. He's coaching 162 00:07:31,920 --> 00:07:36,040 Speaker 1: the outside linebackers, which is a little complicated because in 163 00:07:36,080 --> 00:07:38,440 Speaker 1: the Giant system, outside linebackers have to be able to 164 00:07:38,440 --> 00:07:40,120 Speaker 1: set the edge in the run, they have to be 165 00:07:40,120 --> 00:07:43,680 Speaker 1: able to cover and their virtual defensive lineman and have 166 00:07:43,760 --> 00:07:47,160 Speaker 1: to rush the passer, especially in sub package situations when 167 00:07:47,280 --> 00:07:49,840 Speaker 1: other teams are likely to throw the football. So he 168 00:07:49,920 --> 00:07:53,160 Speaker 1: started my interview with Mike by asking him about how 169 00:07:53,200 --> 00:07:57,520 Speaker 1: he balances the multiple responsibilities his players will have and 170 00:07:57,560 --> 00:08:00,480 Speaker 1: how he goes about coaching all those different skills. Yeah, 171 00:08:00,480 --> 00:08:02,640 Speaker 1: the unique thing about and coaching the outside backers in 172 00:08:02,680 --> 00:08:04,720 Speaker 1: a scheme like this is you're really coaching a guy 173 00:08:04,760 --> 00:08:06,600 Speaker 1: to be a defensive end, set the edge in the 174 00:08:06,720 --> 00:08:09,360 Speaker 1: run game, rush quarterback in the past game. You're also 175 00:08:09,400 --> 00:08:10,880 Speaker 1: a lot of times doing the same job that a 176 00:08:10,960 --> 00:08:13,320 Speaker 1: safety does and some of the coverage stuff where if 177 00:08:13,320 --> 00:08:15,400 Speaker 1: he was a come down, walk down safety, you're kind 178 00:08:15,400 --> 00:08:17,400 Speaker 1: of in the same spot. And then also you know 179 00:08:17,480 --> 00:08:19,880 Speaker 1: you're becoming a linebacker in certain defenses where you gotta 180 00:08:19,880 --> 00:08:21,640 Speaker 1: fall over the top, keep the ball inside you and 181 00:08:21,720 --> 00:08:23,440 Speaker 1: kind of squeeze the ball and stuff like that. So 182 00:08:23,440 --> 00:08:25,200 Speaker 1: you're really coaching all three levels, which for me is 183 00:08:25,240 --> 00:08:27,120 Speaker 1: coached awesome because you get to get your hands in 184 00:08:27,200 --> 00:08:28,920 Speaker 1: the front, you get your hands in the back end, 185 00:08:28,960 --> 00:08:31,240 Speaker 1: and you're kind of tied into the whole entire thing. 186 00:08:31,280 --> 00:08:33,040 Speaker 1: But it puts a lot of stress on the guys 187 00:08:33,040 --> 00:08:34,320 Speaker 1: as far as what they have to know. They gotta 188 00:08:34,360 --> 00:08:36,520 Speaker 1: learn the whole package, not like they weren't. Weren't learning 189 00:08:36,559 --> 00:08:38,080 Speaker 1: just the front end or the back end. They gotta 190 00:08:38,120 --> 00:08:40,640 Speaker 1: kind of do both with that versatility. Then what are 191 00:08:40,640 --> 00:08:43,120 Speaker 1: the most important traits do you think for someone to 192 00:08:43,120 --> 00:08:45,880 Speaker 1: be successful at that position in this defense? Well, I 193 00:08:45,880 --> 00:08:47,520 Speaker 1: think the three things you kind of always look at 194 00:08:47,600 --> 00:08:50,080 Speaker 1: is can a guy rush quarterback? Number one? Can you 195 00:08:50,080 --> 00:08:52,240 Speaker 1: set the edge in a run game? Number two? And 196 00:08:52,240 --> 00:08:54,760 Speaker 1: then can he play some coverage for you? Uh? Those 197 00:08:54,920 --> 00:08:57,040 Speaker 1: be the three kind of my guess prongs that you 198 00:08:57,120 --> 00:08:58,520 Speaker 1: want to look at and a guy and the more 199 00:08:58,559 --> 00:09:00,240 Speaker 1: successful you can be to each one of those. Now, 200 00:09:00,280 --> 00:09:02,760 Speaker 1: obviously it's like an assets and liabilities thing. He's better 201 00:09:02,760 --> 00:09:04,719 Speaker 1: at one thing is he's much better at it than 202 00:09:05,040 --> 00:09:06,920 Speaker 1: you can kind of live with some deficiencies in the 203 00:09:06,960 --> 00:09:08,719 Speaker 1: other end. But you've gotta be smart and what you're 204 00:09:08,760 --> 00:09:09,959 Speaker 1: doing and make sure you put the guys in the 205 00:09:10,040 --> 00:09:12,520 Speaker 1: right positions to be successful. Now you're really in an 206 00:09:12,559 --> 00:09:15,280 Speaker 1: interesting spot because you have experienced coaching in the NFL 207 00:09:15,559 --> 00:09:17,960 Speaker 1: and you just recently came from college. Right, you have 208 00:09:18,000 --> 00:09:20,440 Speaker 1: Oceans zim As coming in. You have Lorenzo Carter in 209 00:09:20,440 --> 00:09:22,400 Speaker 1: a second year to get these guys to make the 210 00:09:22,520 --> 00:09:24,520 Speaker 1: jump from college to the pros, What do you think 211 00:09:24,559 --> 00:09:26,200 Speaker 1: the most important thing is that they have to do 212 00:09:26,280 --> 00:09:29,240 Speaker 1: better to make that type of transition. Yeah. I've been 213 00:09:29,320 --> 00:09:30,920 Speaker 1: very fortunate in my career to be around a lot 214 00:09:30,960 --> 00:09:33,640 Speaker 1: of great coaches at both the professional level end in 215 00:09:33,679 --> 00:09:35,439 Speaker 1: the college level, so I kind of have seen it 216 00:09:35,480 --> 00:09:37,560 Speaker 1: from both ends of it. And when guys are making 217 00:09:37,559 --> 00:09:40,000 Speaker 1: the transition there, really you're going from being a college 218 00:09:40,000 --> 00:09:42,360 Speaker 1: student athlete where you're worrying about school. You got a 219 00:09:42,360 --> 00:09:45,200 Speaker 1: bunch of different things going on, and really for these guys, 220 00:09:45,240 --> 00:09:47,560 Speaker 1: it's going to be about diving in and truly becoming 221 00:09:47,600 --> 00:09:50,199 Speaker 1: a professional, and you're getting to compete against the best 222 00:09:50,200 --> 00:09:53,319 Speaker 1: people in the world at this profession. And for them 223 00:09:53,320 --> 00:09:55,040 Speaker 1: to be successful, they're gonna have to dive in head 224 00:09:55,080 --> 00:09:57,800 Speaker 1: first and kind of submerse themselves and not only what 225 00:09:57,840 --> 00:09:59,760 Speaker 1: they already know, but continue to kind of have that 226 00:09:59,760 --> 00:10:03,000 Speaker 1: big Jenner's mindset and keep learning different things and keep 227 00:10:03,000 --> 00:10:06,359 Speaker 1: getting better at their craft. Obviously, that position contact physicality 228 00:10:06,400 --> 00:10:08,600 Speaker 1: is so important. What can you do with them before 229 00:10:08,640 --> 00:10:10,839 Speaker 1: you get the training camp, before the pads get on 230 00:10:11,200 --> 00:10:13,240 Speaker 1: to help them technique wise and do whatever you need 231 00:10:13,280 --> 00:10:14,960 Speaker 1: to do. So when they hit camp, hit preseason games, 232 00:10:14,960 --> 00:10:16,760 Speaker 1: they're ready to go. Yeah, I think my job as 233 00:10:16,800 --> 00:10:18,680 Speaker 1: a coach is partially to be more of a trainer. 234 00:10:18,920 --> 00:10:20,600 Speaker 1: You want to train them just kind of like if 235 00:10:20,640 --> 00:10:23,520 Speaker 1: if you're gonna box for the heavyweight Championship of the 236 00:10:23,520 --> 00:10:25,760 Speaker 1: World or something like that, you you wouldn't you wouldn't 237 00:10:25,800 --> 00:10:27,680 Speaker 1: go out and fight for six months straight. You would 238 00:10:27,720 --> 00:10:30,240 Speaker 1: train to win, and you do the different things. Hit 239 00:10:30,320 --> 00:10:32,679 Speaker 1: to beg bag, hit the heavy bag, being the ropes, 240 00:10:32,760 --> 00:10:35,079 Speaker 1: be and doing different things. So my job to kind 241 00:10:35,080 --> 00:10:37,040 Speaker 1: of find those techniques within the drills where all of 242 00:10:37,080 --> 00:10:38,640 Speaker 1: a sudden they go out there they don't have to 243 00:10:38,679 --> 00:10:41,080 Speaker 1: think about, oh, I need to get this type of leverage, 244 00:10:41,160 --> 00:10:43,040 Speaker 1: or I need to be lower, my hands have to 245 00:10:43,040 --> 00:10:45,320 Speaker 1: be placed here or there. I've already trained that way, 246 00:10:45,320 --> 00:10:46,679 Speaker 1: I've already done it. So now when I go out 247 00:10:46,679 --> 00:10:48,360 Speaker 1: there on the field, that just happens naturally, and the 248 00:10:48,400 --> 00:10:50,080 Speaker 1: guys can play as fast as they can play, and 249 00:10:50,480 --> 00:10:53,040 Speaker 1: um be as successful as they can. Hit. A couple 250 00:10:53,040 --> 00:10:55,439 Speaker 1: of players specifically, it's so Lorenzo Carter, he played a 251 00:10:55,480 --> 00:10:57,280 Speaker 1: lot of off ball stuff when he was in college, 252 00:10:57,280 --> 00:10:59,240 Speaker 1: trying to transition to more of a pass rushing role. 253 00:10:59,520 --> 00:11:01,559 Speaker 1: Where the things that you think he can make a 254 00:11:01,640 --> 00:11:03,240 Speaker 1: jump at and where are you really trying to work 255 00:11:03,240 --> 00:11:05,040 Speaker 1: with him on. Yeah. The exciting thing working with the 256 00:11:05,080 --> 00:11:07,079 Speaker 1: Lorenzo so far in a little bit I've got to 257 00:11:07,120 --> 00:11:09,480 Speaker 1: spend with him is that he's such a dynamic athlete. 258 00:11:09,480 --> 00:11:12,439 Speaker 1: He's get great size, great length. Uh, he's super explosive, 259 00:11:12,720 --> 00:11:15,160 Speaker 1: he can bend really well. So I think that he 260 00:11:15,240 --> 00:11:16,920 Speaker 1: kind of is a guy that that that holds all 261 00:11:16,920 --> 00:11:18,439 Speaker 1: the keys to to what you want to do. Now 262 00:11:18,480 --> 00:11:21,840 Speaker 1: for him, it's it's about experiences. You're never staying the same. Uh. 263 00:11:21,880 --> 00:11:24,360 Speaker 1: He gained some valuable experience last year and now being 264 00:11:24,360 --> 00:11:26,280 Speaker 1: able to kind of digest it over the off season 265 00:11:26,360 --> 00:11:29,000 Speaker 1: and uh kind of know and understand what his training 266 00:11:29,480 --> 00:11:32,000 Speaker 1: is exactly about and what he's trying to get accomplished 267 00:11:32,000 --> 00:11:34,439 Speaker 1: within that training throughout the course of the off season, 268 00:11:34,480 --> 00:11:36,160 Speaker 1: I think is only gonna help him going into next 269 00:11:36,240 --> 00:11:38,680 Speaker 1: year be a better pass rusher, be a little bit 270 00:11:38,760 --> 00:11:40,719 Speaker 1: more confident in the coverages, so you're not to think 271 00:11:40,720 --> 00:11:43,640 Speaker 1: about those things. And obviously, uh, as he continues to 272 00:11:43,920 --> 00:11:46,160 Speaker 1: work in a way room get more and more physical 273 00:11:46,200 --> 00:11:47,839 Speaker 1: at the point of attack and run game what's you 274 00:11:47,880 --> 00:11:50,640 Speaker 1: look about the X man coming out of old dominion. Yeah, 275 00:11:50,640 --> 00:11:52,800 Speaker 1: the X Man, he's uh, he's a guy that's got 276 00:11:52,800 --> 00:11:54,880 Speaker 1: a lot of quickness. Um, you can see his first 277 00:11:54,920 --> 00:11:57,559 Speaker 1: step quickness is real well is real good. And uh, 278 00:11:57,600 --> 00:11:59,280 Speaker 1: he's a guy that's been coached really hard. I know 279 00:11:59,360 --> 00:12:01,199 Speaker 1: his college coach a good friend of mine, So we've 280 00:12:01,240 --> 00:12:03,640 Speaker 1: kind of crossed passed that way. And I'm excited to 281 00:12:03,679 --> 00:12:04,959 Speaker 1: get my hands on him. And kind of it's like 282 00:12:05,000 --> 00:12:07,080 Speaker 1: getting a new ball clay you get to work with 283 00:12:07,160 --> 00:12:09,600 Speaker 1: and kind of help shape. And I'm excited for him. He's, Uh, 284 00:12:09,840 --> 00:12:11,760 Speaker 1: you guys are gonna love his personality. He's a great guy. 285 00:12:11,800 --> 00:12:14,920 Speaker 1: And uh, he'll come ready to work and he's gonna 286 00:12:14,920 --> 00:12:16,240 Speaker 1: be a hard working guy. I'm excited to get my 287 00:12:16,280 --> 00:12:18,640 Speaker 1: hands on him. Final question, Marcus Golden. He's a guy 288 00:12:18,679 --> 00:12:20,440 Speaker 1: that had double juge it sex a couple of years ago, 289 00:12:20,640 --> 00:12:22,560 Speaker 1: had an injury and sometimes it takes a year for 290 00:12:22,600 --> 00:12:24,280 Speaker 1: a guy like that to get back. What do you 291 00:12:24,320 --> 00:12:26,160 Speaker 1: think the ceiling is for a guy like him now 292 00:12:26,160 --> 00:12:28,120 Speaker 1: that he's a couple of years off that injury. Yeah, Well, 293 00:12:28,360 --> 00:12:29,880 Speaker 1: with a guy like Marcus, the one thing that you 294 00:12:29,960 --> 00:12:32,800 Speaker 1: kind of recognize with him really quickly right off the bat. 295 00:12:32,840 --> 00:12:34,280 Speaker 1: However you want to say it is that guy is 296 00:12:34,320 --> 00:12:36,600 Speaker 1: gonna work his tail off. I mean he is a worker, 297 00:12:36,679 --> 00:12:39,160 Speaker 1: and you know, when you're having a significant injury like that, 298 00:12:39,280 --> 00:12:41,880 Speaker 1: especially to the lower half, it's gonna take a little 299 00:12:41,880 --> 00:12:43,240 Speaker 1: bit of time. He and I have talked about getting 300 00:12:43,240 --> 00:12:44,840 Speaker 1: the sea legs back. Can you just get back to 301 00:12:45,200 --> 00:12:47,120 Speaker 1: being all the train as hard as he does, and 302 00:12:47,160 --> 00:12:49,120 Speaker 1: work as hard as he does, with no limitations, no 303 00:12:49,280 --> 00:12:51,600 Speaker 1: worrying about Uh, you know I have to worry about him. 304 00:12:51,600 --> 00:12:53,440 Speaker 1: I gonna step like this if this is gonna happen, 305 00:12:53,520 --> 00:12:55,600 Speaker 1: or that's gonna happen, and just get back to play 306 00:12:55,679 --> 00:12:56,840 Speaker 1: as hard as he does. If he can play as 307 00:12:56,880 --> 00:12:59,880 Speaker 1: hard as he did early in the crib before pre injury, 308 00:12:59,920 --> 00:13:01,560 Speaker 1: I guess the best way to say it, and uh, 309 00:13:01,880 --> 00:13:04,120 Speaker 1: keep on running to the ball the way that he has. 310 00:13:04,160 --> 00:13:06,120 Speaker 1: I think his production is going to happen naturally just 311 00:13:06,160 --> 00:13:08,480 Speaker 1: because of how hard he works. Coach, appreciate the time. 312 00:13:08,520 --> 00:13:10,840 Speaker 1: All right, thank you very much. That's outside linebacker coach 313 00:13:10,920 --> 00:13:14,680 Speaker 1: Mike Dawson. Now let's go through the inside linebackers, Bill McGovern. 314 00:13:15,160 --> 00:13:18,120 Speaker 1: I started my conversation with Bill asking him about the 315 00:13:18,200 --> 00:13:20,880 Speaker 1: value of alec Ogiltree. Well, I think you see from 316 00:13:20,880 --> 00:13:24,280 Speaker 1: Alex as his leadership down and you know, every down, Um, 317 00:13:24,320 --> 00:13:27,840 Speaker 1: he's out there, he's communicating, he's talking, uh, and then 318 00:13:27,840 --> 00:13:30,640 Speaker 1: he's performing, you know, and he's producing, which is big, 319 00:13:30,760 --> 00:13:33,400 Speaker 1: and he's you know, he's a guy that guys the 320 00:13:33,520 --> 00:13:35,880 Speaker 1: guys in the room and the guys on the defensive 321 00:13:35,960 --> 00:13:38,000 Speaker 1: I can count on. Is he a guy that you're 322 00:13:38,000 --> 00:13:39,680 Speaker 1: always trying to get downhill? Because I feel like his 323 00:13:39,720 --> 00:13:41,199 Speaker 1: speed in his tray line once he gets to go 324 00:13:41,240 --> 00:13:43,800 Speaker 1: when he could be pretty he dis a real damage. Well, 325 00:13:43,800 --> 00:13:46,520 Speaker 1: you'd like to get everybody down. Hell, you're doing well 326 00:13:46,520 --> 00:13:49,160 Speaker 1: with that, but it's um. Obviously you like to try 327 00:13:49,160 --> 00:13:52,160 Speaker 1: to take advantage of everybody's strengths and uh, you know, 328 00:13:52,200 --> 00:13:54,600 Speaker 1: give them a chance to go make plays. Alex doing 329 00:13:54,600 --> 00:13:57,000 Speaker 1: a nice job when we can get him going um 330 00:13:57,080 --> 00:13:59,880 Speaker 1: on certain things. He has great anticipation, he sees things 331 00:14:00,040 --> 00:14:03,080 Speaker 1: well and he's quick the trigger. So we're excited about 332 00:14:03,080 --> 00:14:05,120 Speaker 1: what he's been doing. We know how important coverage is 333 00:14:05,160 --> 00:14:07,560 Speaker 1: now for linebackers in this league with all the shallow crosses, 334 00:14:07,559 --> 00:14:09,280 Speaker 1: the running backs out of the backfield though that sort 335 00:14:09,280 --> 00:14:11,240 Speaker 1: of stuff, picking up guys in the zone. How was 336 00:14:11,280 --> 00:14:14,520 Speaker 1: Alec made progress as a coverage linebacker, but he's on 337 00:14:14,559 --> 00:14:17,200 Speaker 1: the field for you guys all three downs. Well, it's 338 00:14:17,280 --> 00:14:18,720 Speaker 1: it's one of the things we're trying to take again 339 00:14:18,920 --> 00:14:21,320 Speaker 1: of taking out taking advantage of all the things that 340 00:14:21,360 --> 00:14:23,640 Speaker 1: Alex brings to the table in terms of his leadership, 341 00:14:23,760 --> 00:14:26,200 Speaker 1: his playmaking ability and all that stuff. So there'll be 342 00:14:26,200 --> 00:14:28,800 Speaker 1: different times, at different times we'll ask him to do 343 00:14:28,840 --> 00:14:31,720 Speaker 1: different things, whether it be blitzing, whether it be coverage, um, 344 00:14:32,040 --> 00:14:33,920 Speaker 1: whatever it may be in terms of a pass rush. 345 00:14:34,280 --> 00:14:36,360 Speaker 1: So it's gonna be uh things that we're gonna just 346 00:14:36,400 --> 00:14:38,320 Speaker 1: gonna continue to try to find his strengths and try 347 00:14:38,360 --> 00:14:40,680 Speaker 1: to make the most of them. Watching b J Goodson 348 00:14:40,720 --> 00:14:42,240 Speaker 1: they last year, it seemed like you find a little 349 00:14:42,320 --> 00:14:44,840 Speaker 1: niche for him as a blitzer. He blew up a 350 00:14:44,840 --> 00:14:46,720 Speaker 1: couple of running backs on the way to the quarterback 351 00:14:46,800 --> 00:14:48,400 Speaker 1: last year. Is that one of the roles where you 352 00:14:48,440 --> 00:14:51,120 Speaker 1: see him growing in? Well, uh, we like to see 353 00:14:51,160 --> 00:14:53,600 Speaker 1: him just continue to grow overall. But it's one of 354 00:14:53,640 --> 00:14:56,400 Speaker 1: those things again, finding the guys what they do best 355 00:14:56,520 --> 00:15:00,360 Speaker 1: and getting getting familiar everything would betch his scheme allow 356 00:15:00,440 --> 00:15:02,480 Speaker 1: you know, we're trying to take advantage of guy's skill 357 00:15:02,560 --> 00:15:05,320 Speaker 1: sets and UM. You know, obviously b J can play 358 00:15:05,360 --> 00:15:07,640 Speaker 1: with some power, and UH has shown that he can 359 00:15:07,680 --> 00:15:09,960 Speaker 1: strike people. What are you working on with him in 360 00:15:10,040 --> 00:15:12,280 Speaker 1: terms of taking that next step as a player? Everything, 361 00:15:12,480 --> 00:15:14,320 Speaker 1: it's like everybody comes back. There's about you know, we've 362 00:15:14,320 --> 00:15:16,000 Speaker 1: given each guy a couple of things that they need 363 00:15:16,040 --> 00:15:18,480 Speaker 1: to particularly work on, and we kind of go through 364 00:15:18,520 --> 00:15:20,480 Speaker 1: with those guys, and now as we're in the off season, 365 00:15:20,680 --> 00:15:22,160 Speaker 1: those guys have been trying to work on them. So 366 00:15:22,200 --> 00:15:24,920 Speaker 1: we're looking at seeing UH, trying to see gradual approvement 367 00:15:24,960 --> 00:15:26,960 Speaker 1: each and every day. And edded rookie in the room, 368 00:15:27,000 --> 00:15:29,680 Speaker 1: calmly from Wisconsin, what did you like from him coming 369 00:15:29,680 --> 00:15:31,880 Speaker 1: out of college when he looked at his table, Well, again, 370 00:15:31,920 --> 00:15:33,640 Speaker 1: we thought him I saw him as a playmaker. So 371 00:15:33,720 --> 00:15:37,800 Speaker 1: a guy who's smart, intelligent, UM plays fast and plays 372 00:15:37,840 --> 00:15:40,360 Speaker 1: and game speed and just shows good instincts and awareness 373 00:15:40,360 --> 00:15:42,720 Speaker 1: on the field. So we're excited to have them finally 374 00:15:42,760 --> 00:15:44,920 Speaker 1: second year in BET your system a lot of new personnel. 375 00:15:44,960 --> 00:15:46,680 Speaker 1: I know that, but how much can it help your 376 00:15:46,800 --> 00:15:49,880 Speaker 1: group overall as a whole unit, linebackers, everybody together being 377 00:15:49,920 --> 00:15:52,240 Speaker 1: in this defense for a second year it's for everybody. 378 00:15:52,280 --> 00:15:54,880 Speaker 1: It helps everybody helps everybody in it helps the players, 379 00:15:54,880 --> 00:15:58,480 Speaker 1: helps the coaches, helps all the guys in it um. 380 00:15:58,000 --> 00:16:00,440 Speaker 1: It gives people a chance to kind of understand the 381 00:16:00,440 --> 00:16:03,960 Speaker 1: subtle uh uh, the subtleties of of all the defenses 382 00:16:04,000 --> 00:16:05,560 Speaker 1: and a little ins and outs that you've got to 383 00:16:05,600 --> 00:16:07,760 Speaker 1: be alert for, or who might have the hard down 384 00:16:07,840 --> 00:16:09,720 Speaker 1: or who's you know, they should just make sure you 385 00:16:09,800 --> 00:16:11,520 Speaker 1: take care of this and we'll will be in good shape. 386 00:16:11,800 --> 00:16:13,880 Speaker 1: So it allows those guys to play faster. When they're 387 00:16:13,920 --> 00:16:16,040 Speaker 1: confident and they understand what you're supposed to do, they 388 00:16:16,560 --> 00:16:21,360 Speaker 1: play faster. Thank you. That's John's inside linebackers coach Bill McGovern. 389 00:16:21,520 --> 00:16:24,880 Speaker 1: Now let's go to the defensive line and Gary Emmanuel 390 00:16:25,000 --> 00:16:28,640 Speaker 1: where he has a new edition first round pick Dexter Lawrence. 391 00:16:29,040 --> 00:16:32,200 Speaker 1: I talked to Gary about how Lawrence will interchange with 392 00:16:32,240 --> 00:16:35,360 Speaker 1: both Dalvin Tomlinson and b J. Hill and how he 393 00:16:35,440 --> 00:16:38,840 Speaker 1: might utilize those three in the base three fore front. Well, 394 00:16:38,840 --> 00:16:40,600 Speaker 1: we'll see how it all plays out, but they are 395 00:16:40,640 --> 00:16:43,480 Speaker 1: interchangeable pizzas. That's why we love about them are they're 396 00:16:43,760 --> 00:16:46,800 Speaker 1: very good football players. They're great guys. They love football 397 00:16:46,840 --> 00:16:48,400 Speaker 1: and they study and work hard in the game. So 398 00:16:48,440 --> 00:16:50,520 Speaker 1: we'll see how it all shapes up. When you watch 399 00:16:50,560 --> 00:16:53,080 Speaker 1: a dexter at Clemson, you did see him play a 400 00:16:53,120 --> 00:16:55,320 Speaker 1: lot of different places. What did you see from him 401 00:16:55,360 --> 00:16:57,400 Speaker 1: at Clemson that makes you think he can develop into 402 00:16:57,720 --> 00:17:01,560 Speaker 1: a consistent interior pastor Sure? Well, he's a big guy 403 00:17:01,640 --> 00:17:03,800 Speaker 1: who's a good athlete. He has a great size, he 404 00:17:03,840 --> 00:17:06,240 Speaker 1: has great get off, and he's a student in the game, 405 00:17:06,320 --> 00:17:09,320 Speaker 1: and he loves to play football. So I think but 406 00:17:09,480 --> 00:17:12,440 Speaker 1: those things built in will help him become a great 407 00:17:12,440 --> 00:17:14,920 Speaker 1: player at this level. When he walked in here, I 408 00:17:14,920 --> 00:17:16,800 Speaker 1: saw him like, all right, he's three hundred forty pounds. 409 00:17:16,800 --> 00:17:19,280 Speaker 1: I get it. The guy is a lean. You don't 410 00:17:19,280 --> 00:17:24,400 Speaker 1: seem many lean three pound guys. He's pretty amazing exactly. 411 00:17:24,480 --> 00:17:26,720 Speaker 1: When you look at the guy at that size, you 412 00:17:26,960 --> 00:17:31,960 Speaker 1: see a bigger uh not as athletic looking guys he is, 413 00:17:32,000 --> 00:17:34,000 Speaker 1: and he's a great athlete. He's a basketball player in 414 00:17:34,080 --> 00:17:36,720 Speaker 1: high school. Uh, so we expect some good things out 415 00:17:36,720 --> 00:17:39,480 Speaker 1: of him. When Snacks was here last year, Tomlinson played 416 00:17:39,560 --> 00:17:41,240 Speaker 1: d end a lot of the time to move move 417 00:17:41,280 --> 00:17:44,560 Speaker 1: it inside as well. And then now you have Lawrence, 418 00:17:44,560 --> 00:17:46,800 Speaker 1: He's gonna move around. Where do you see Tomlinson's the 419 00:17:46,840 --> 00:17:48,919 Speaker 1: greatest strength in terms of his ability and how that 420 00:17:48,960 --> 00:17:51,879 Speaker 1: can translate in your number three for him, Well, I 421 00:17:51,920 --> 00:17:54,360 Speaker 1: think Dlvin, with all the rest of the guys, he's 422 00:17:54,400 --> 00:17:56,520 Speaker 1: just working every day to get better at his craft. 423 00:17:56,560 --> 00:17:58,920 Speaker 1: You know, he's working better against the run, he's working 424 00:17:58,960 --> 00:18:01,359 Speaker 1: better against improving pass for us. He's working better than 425 00:18:01,400 --> 00:18:04,160 Speaker 1: his footworking technique and all the things that's going there. 426 00:18:04,200 --> 00:18:05,800 Speaker 1: So I think he'll be able to help us out 427 00:18:06,080 --> 00:18:08,400 Speaker 1: wherever we place him in the defensive line. Again, he's 428 00:18:08,400 --> 00:18:11,240 Speaker 1: a great young man who works hard and is getting 429 00:18:11,240 --> 00:18:13,320 Speaker 1: better every time out. How about b J Hill? He 430 00:18:13,320 --> 00:18:15,040 Speaker 1: had a good sack production as a rookie. He's a 431 00:18:15,040 --> 00:18:17,080 Speaker 1: good athlete. Um, he was a guy that was a 432 00:18:17,200 --> 00:18:20,239 Speaker 1: three technique rusher in college. Where do you think the 433 00:18:20,280 --> 00:18:22,760 Speaker 1: next jump comes for him as he heads into a 434 00:18:22,800 --> 00:18:25,639 Speaker 1: second year? Well, would Bj with all the guys, is 435 00:18:25,680 --> 00:18:28,560 Speaker 1: just about being consistent and improving on where you were 436 00:18:28,880 --> 00:18:31,360 Speaker 1: last year, just working on the craft, which he's doing 437 00:18:31,440 --> 00:18:33,840 Speaker 1: like the rest of the guys, he's working improving his footwork, 438 00:18:33,880 --> 00:18:37,160 Speaker 1: improving his hands, improving his run technique, improving his pass 439 00:18:37,200 --> 00:18:39,680 Speaker 1: for us. So he's trying to improve his overall game. 440 00:18:39,760 --> 00:18:42,320 Speaker 1: So I think the future is bright for him. You 441 00:18:42,359 --> 00:18:44,879 Speaker 1: guys brought at Olson Pierre, a free agent from Arizona. 442 00:18:44,920 --> 00:18:46,199 Speaker 1: Where do you think he fits in and what do 443 00:18:46,240 --> 00:18:49,120 Speaker 1: you like from him in his experience in Arizona. Well, 444 00:18:49,440 --> 00:18:51,639 Speaker 1: he Olsen somebody who's been in the in the scheme 445 00:18:51,720 --> 00:18:55,840 Speaker 1: and systing there. Uh. He brings some versatility to the defense. 446 00:18:55,880 --> 00:18:58,280 Speaker 1: He can play defensive and he can play defensive tackle, 447 00:18:58,520 --> 00:19:01,000 Speaker 1: to play five three techno, you can play inside on 448 00:19:01,080 --> 00:19:03,560 Speaker 1: the sub stuff, he can play outside of the tight end. 449 00:19:03,600 --> 00:19:05,800 Speaker 1: So he brings a lot of versatility to the package. 450 00:19:06,119 --> 00:19:07,920 Speaker 1: I think he'll just fitting great with the rest of 451 00:19:07,920 --> 00:19:10,720 Speaker 1: you guys. Again, he's another good, hard working guy who's 452 00:19:10,720 --> 00:19:13,640 Speaker 1: a great young man. Final question, just in terms of schematically, 453 00:19:13,640 --> 00:19:15,280 Speaker 1: you play a three man front and base, then you 454 00:19:15,320 --> 00:19:16,840 Speaker 1: go to a four or five man front if you 455 00:19:16,880 --> 00:19:19,159 Speaker 1: count the outside linebackers right then and you know a 456 00:19:19,160 --> 00:19:20,880 Speaker 1: lot of times in nicol and Dam you'll four down 457 00:19:20,920 --> 00:19:24,680 Speaker 1: defensive lineman. How much of the responsibilities of those players 458 00:19:24,760 --> 00:19:27,639 Speaker 1: change from base to sub or they generally have to 459 00:19:27,680 --> 00:19:29,679 Speaker 1: do the same things as it switched based on how 460 00:19:29,720 --> 00:19:31,960 Speaker 1: they're where they're put on the line. Just how does 461 00:19:32,000 --> 00:19:35,040 Speaker 1: that work schematically for you guys. Well, if you're playing 462 00:19:35,080 --> 00:19:37,159 Speaker 1: a shade on the center, you're playing a shade on 463 00:19:37,200 --> 00:19:40,159 Speaker 1: the center rights three down on a four down. If 464 00:19:40,200 --> 00:19:42,160 Speaker 1: you're playing the three technique over the guard, you're playing 465 00:19:42,160 --> 00:19:43,960 Speaker 1: a three technique, whether it's three down a four down. 466 00:19:44,280 --> 00:19:48,080 Speaker 1: So everybody gets, uh, mislead or what it is, but 467 00:19:48,200 --> 00:19:50,399 Speaker 1: it's just playing football. You know, if you're playing a 468 00:19:50,400 --> 00:19:52,840 Speaker 1: five technique, you can play a five technique on the 469 00:19:52,880 --> 00:19:55,120 Speaker 1: tackle as as an outside lineback, or you can play 470 00:19:55,119 --> 00:19:58,840 Speaker 1: a fire technique as a defensive end. Uh So, it 471 00:19:58,920 --> 00:20:01,160 Speaker 1: just it just varies. You know, a lot of people 472 00:20:01,160 --> 00:20:04,160 Speaker 1: think you're at a three man front, you're alos put 473 00:20:04,200 --> 00:20:06,440 Speaker 1: some pain to two gap system, but that's not the case. 474 00:20:06,440 --> 00:20:08,360 Speaker 1: For you guys. Write whether you're three down or four down, 475 00:20:08,400 --> 00:20:09,919 Speaker 1: you're playing in one gap system where you want the 476 00:20:09,920 --> 00:20:12,879 Speaker 1: guys to penetrate up the field. Right, correct, Absolutely correct. 477 00:20:12,880 --> 00:20:17,000 Speaker 1: We are a single gap defense. We don't have pretty 478 00:20:17,040 --> 00:20:20,240 Speaker 1: much no schemes were two gaping in coach, good stuff, 479 00:20:20,280 --> 00:20:22,720 Speaker 1: We appreciate the time, best luck. Thank you. That's Giants 480 00:20:22,720 --> 00:20:25,720 Speaker 1: defensive line coach Gary Emmanuel. 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