1 00:00:01,639 --> 00:00:05,480 Speaker 1: All right, welcome back all you Traders and faithfuls too. 2 00:00:05,559 --> 00:00:09,680 Speaker 1: By order of the faithfuls, I'm wells, Adams. I'm alongside 3 00:00:09,720 --> 00:00:13,280 Speaker 1: the beautiful Dolores Catania. 4 00:00:13,360 --> 00:00:15,160 Speaker 2: Ah, thank you, Wells. 5 00:00:15,560 --> 00:00:18,520 Speaker 3: He's calling me beautiful because I was just complaining about 6 00:00:18,640 --> 00:00:23,040 Speaker 3: like her eMac, so like the gentleman. 7 00:00:22,640 --> 00:00:25,160 Speaker 2: He is, he's, you know, trying to build me up today. 8 00:00:25,200 --> 00:00:29,160 Speaker 3: But anyway, hello, this is an exciting episode for us, 9 00:00:29,520 --> 00:00:30,360 Speaker 3: don't you think. 10 00:00:30,840 --> 00:00:37,040 Speaker 1: Last one, final episode of season two programming note unfortunately 11 00:00:37,640 --> 00:00:42,320 Speaker 1: banished last night was it was Tamrock, So she's not 12 00:00:42,320 --> 00:00:45,440 Speaker 1: gonna make the show today. But we you're in good 13 00:00:45,520 --> 00:00:49,480 Speaker 1: hands with these two faithfuls. We will sure, we will 14 00:00:49,520 --> 00:00:52,840 Speaker 1: sure put you through this final episode of season two, 15 00:00:52,920 --> 00:00:58,480 Speaker 1: which was such a good season and such a fun ending. 16 00:00:58,520 --> 00:01:00,800 Speaker 1: I kind of forgot how it all went down and 17 00:01:00,880 --> 00:01:04,880 Speaker 1: the Trichelle and ct of it all, but reliving it 18 00:01:04,920 --> 00:01:05,640 Speaker 1: was very fun. 19 00:01:06,319 --> 00:01:10,039 Speaker 2: Well, yes it was. It was fun. And this was 20 00:01:10,120 --> 00:01:13,840 Speaker 2: the single most. 21 00:01:13,319 --> 00:01:16,800 Speaker 3: Addicting episode to me because this is what got me. 22 00:01:17,360 --> 00:01:19,520 Speaker 3: This is when I fell in love with the show. 23 00:01:20,480 --> 00:01:23,600 Speaker 3: This was when I realized there was something really special 24 00:01:24,600 --> 00:01:28,600 Speaker 3: about Traders, and it was in the end, which we're 25 00:01:28,600 --> 00:01:31,080 Speaker 3: going to get to but it was shocking. 26 00:01:31,120 --> 00:01:34,400 Speaker 2: It's very The thing is, it's very unpredictable. 27 00:01:34,480 --> 00:01:37,560 Speaker 3: See in my shows, you can look at patterns of 28 00:01:37,640 --> 00:01:41,600 Speaker 3: behavior and kind of predict how the person's going to 29 00:01:41,680 --> 00:01:46,360 Speaker 3: act next, or how the you know, we know the 30 00:01:46,480 --> 00:01:48,960 Speaker 3: end to these plays in our Fights and Housewives, right 31 00:01:49,080 --> 00:01:53,400 Speaker 3: ye most of the time. And this is just so 32 00:01:53,640 --> 00:01:57,560 Speaker 3: new and so unpredictable, and that's what I love about it. 33 00:01:58,080 --> 00:02:02,040 Speaker 1: Did you know that it was the last day of 34 00:02:02,080 --> 00:02:05,520 Speaker 1: filming when it was the last day of filming? Yeah, 35 00:02:06,080 --> 00:02:08,600 Speaker 1: you did, so they let you know, like it's this 36 00:02:08,720 --> 00:02:12,359 Speaker 1: is the last round table, and this is. 37 00:02:12,280 --> 00:02:14,560 Speaker 2: Going to be yes, oh yeah, yeah, you know. 38 00:02:15,440 --> 00:02:18,280 Speaker 1: Okay, all right, before we go to the end, Let's 39 00:02:18,320 --> 00:02:22,840 Speaker 1: go to the beginning. Kate is the last trader left 40 00:02:22,919 --> 00:02:26,520 Speaker 1: in the Tourettes. Alan joins her to discuss her plan 41 00:02:26,600 --> 00:02:31,000 Speaker 1: and she's kind of cross between Trischelle and Serie for 42 00:02:31,080 --> 00:02:33,920 Speaker 1: the final murder. I think that she made the right 43 00:02:34,000 --> 00:02:36,200 Speaker 1: decision in not killing Trischelle. 44 00:02:36,800 --> 00:02:40,919 Speaker 2: No, Rochelle is the better player. Yeah, so she may 45 00:02:40,960 --> 00:02:41,480 Speaker 2: have won. 46 00:02:41,800 --> 00:02:45,040 Speaker 3: It's so funny because every decision towards the end is 47 00:02:45,040 --> 00:02:48,000 Speaker 3: so crucial how it's going to end. You know what 48 00:02:48,040 --> 00:02:52,280 Speaker 3: I mean, so the smaller that circle gets, that round 49 00:02:52,360 --> 00:02:57,400 Speaker 3: table gets the Really that's when it's like really hard, 50 00:02:57,440 --> 00:03:01,520 Speaker 3: because your decisions are making breaking you in any second. 51 00:03:01,840 --> 00:03:04,560 Speaker 3: You know, along the way, we make a lot of 52 00:03:04,840 --> 00:03:08,160 Speaker 3: wrong choices, you being one of them. On our show, 53 00:03:08,560 --> 00:03:10,240 Speaker 3: you were a faithful We got right of you. But 54 00:03:10,320 --> 00:03:12,760 Speaker 3: there was so much room to play it wasn't going 55 00:03:12,840 --> 00:03:17,200 Speaker 3: to make a difference. Yet this is when things really really. 56 00:03:17,080 --> 00:03:17,920 Speaker 2: Make a difference. 57 00:03:18,440 --> 00:03:21,480 Speaker 1: I mean, I understand Kate's rational of like knocking off 58 00:03:21,600 --> 00:03:24,920 Speaker 1: another Bravo Club person to kind of like get the 59 00:03:25,040 --> 00:03:29,880 Speaker 1: stink off of her, But the amount of like bloodhounding 60 00:03:29,919 --> 00:03:33,120 Speaker 1: that I think Draschelle was doing, and especially towards Kate, 61 00:03:33,240 --> 00:03:35,600 Speaker 1: I'm not sure. I think I agree with you, and 62 00:03:35,600 --> 00:03:38,160 Speaker 1: I'm not sure if it was the best play for 63 00:03:38,280 --> 00:03:38,720 Speaker 1: her game. 64 00:03:39,640 --> 00:03:43,920 Speaker 3: For Kate's right, well, we could always say she could 65 00:03:43,920 --> 00:03:46,960 Speaker 3: have used the excuse if I was a trader, why 66 00:03:47,000 --> 00:03:48,920 Speaker 3: would I get rid of the one person gunning for 67 00:03:49,000 --> 00:03:50,920 Speaker 3: me that would make me look so bad? 68 00:03:51,240 --> 00:03:54,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, you know they were coming for her anyway. 69 00:03:54,760 --> 00:03:58,320 Speaker 3: I think she was damned if she did and damned 70 00:03:58,320 --> 00:04:01,000 Speaker 3: if she didn't, because she was the most credible person 71 00:04:01,040 --> 00:04:02,920 Speaker 3: to be a trader at by that point. 72 00:04:03,120 --> 00:04:08,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, and everyone seems to have their like finger pointed 73 00:04:08,720 --> 00:04:13,440 Speaker 1: at Kate after the way that she responded to Phedra 74 00:04:13,600 --> 00:04:15,360 Speaker 1: the night before at the round table. 75 00:04:15,920 --> 00:04:18,480 Speaker 3: You know, moving forward, and I hate to give this 76 00:04:18,600 --> 00:04:21,919 Speaker 3: up because the newness of it all is still the 77 00:04:21,960 --> 00:04:24,520 Speaker 3: element of surprise. So as this show goes on, you'll 78 00:04:24,520 --> 00:04:28,719 Speaker 3: be able to predict things as well. Right, and we 79 00:04:28,839 --> 00:04:33,240 Speaker 3: still don't realize that it's only the second season, and 80 00:04:33,240 --> 00:04:36,120 Speaker 3: we still don't realize that traders come for traders. I 81 00:04:36,160 --> 00:04:39,880 Speaker 3: feel like it's still like we're kind of green to it, 82 00:04:40,720 --> 00:04:45,880 Speaker 3: and my, by my, by the end of season three, 83 00:04:45,960 --> 00:04:48,960 Speaker 3: you realize you can kind of figure it out when 84 00:04:48,960 --> 00:04:50,840 Speaker 3: two people are really going at each other at the 85 00:04:50,920 --> 00:04:53,359 Speaker 3: round table, but really going at each other. 86 00:04:53,520 --> 00:04:57,159 Speaker 2: With specific you're a macket trader. You are one hundred 87 00:04:57,200 --> 00:04:59,520 Speaker 2: percent trader, and now you really got to look at 88 00:04:59,520 --> 00:05:00,000 Speaker 2: the other person. 89 00:05:00,960 --> 00:05:03,840 Speaker 1: Seems like a very fun kind of like final mission, 90 00:05:05,040 --> 00:05:07,440 Speaker 1: did you gut? What was your final mission? Do you remember? 91 00:05:09,600 --> 00:05:10,839 Speaker 1: Was that hanging from a helicopter. 92 00:05:11,400 --> 00:05:15,760 Speaker 3: It was hanging from a helicopter, dangling underneath the helicopter 93 00:05:16,320 --> 00:05:19,359 Speaker 3: and dropping bags of gold into a ring of fire. 94 00:05:19,480 --> 00:05:21,880 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that looks so like so much fun. 95 00:05:22,200 --> 00:05:27,760 Speaker 2: It was so much fun. And then also the challenge 96 00:05:27,800 --> 00:05:31,080 Speaker 2: before right before that was a lot of walking, a 97 00:05:31,080 --> 00:05:31,719 Speaker 2: lot of running. 98 00:05:31,760 --> 00:05:34,800 Speaker 3: We had to walk through the woods and find all 99 00:05:34,839 --> 00:05:37,400 Speaker 3: these cute clues to get to the end where we 100 00:05:37,440 --> 00:05:41,479 Speaker 3: then got into you had to solve the riddle to 101 00:05:41,480 --> 00:05:43,120 Speaker 3: get to the next clue, and then we would get 102 00:05:43,120 --> 00:05:47,600 Speaker 3: into these old like old fashioned cars and then drive 103 00:05:47,680 --> 00:05:51,000 Speaker 3: us to the castle where then the helicopter comes. 104 00:05:51,480 --> 00:05:55,640 Speaker 1: Well, this was a pretty fun final mission. The helicopter 105 00:05:55,720 --> 00:05:57,719 Speaker 1: con but they're not hanging from it. They're actually going 106 00:05:57,800 --> 00:06:00,279 Speaker 1: to be kind of going on a treasure hunt that 107 00:06:00,400 --> 00:06:04,080 Speaker 1: kind of like leads them through the I guess the 108 00:06:04,200 --> 00:06:06,680 Speaker 1: hillsides of the locks where they can get deterred and 109 00:06:06,800 --> 00:06:11,359 Speaker 1: find more money and eventually have to get into a 110 00:06:11,480 --> 00:06:16,320 Speaker 1: dinghy and get out there raise the flag before thirty 111 00:06:16,360 --> 00:06:18,440 Speaker 1: minutes I think is up or sixty minutes is up. 112 00:06:19,160 --> 00:06:23,520 Speaker 1: It's so invaluable to have a workhorse like CT Like 113 00:06:23,920 --> 00:06:26,120 Speaker 1: that just was like you go do all of that 114 00:06:27,120 --> 00:06:30,520 Speaker 1: grunt worker, you know, Like I felt like he was 115 00:06:30,560 --> 00:06:33,040 Speaker 1: gonna last to the end because everyone was like, yeah, 116 00:06:33,120 --> 00:06:35,680 Speaker 1: but emissions, he will go like carry all the stupid 117 00:06:35,680 --> 00:06:38,040 Speaker 1: stuff or he'll like go run back to the beginning. 118 00:06:38,839 --> 00:06:42,480 Speaker 1: I'm wondering who was the CT of your season that 119 00:06:42,520 --> 00:06:47,880 Speaker 1: you think that was like the best pack mule for 120 00:06:47,920 --> 00:06:49,640 Speaker 1: the missions. 121 00:06:49,720 --> 00:06:56,040 Speaker 3: Well, to be honest, right until the end, I would 122 00:06:56,120 --> 00:07:00,719 Speaker 3: say with the last remaining of us would have been. 123 00:07:02,760 --> 00:07:04,760 Speaker 2: I was pretty pretty good. 124 00:07:05,520 --> 00:07:08,800 Speaker 3: But the pack of the missions was Dylan Ephron because 125 00:07:08,800 --> 00:07:11,960 Speaker 3: he was very considerate. But through the season, in the 126 00:07:12,000 --> 00:07:15,040 Speaker 3: beginning of the times, it was sam Ashgari. Yeah, I 127 00:07:15,360 --> 00:07:20,440 Speaker 3: played for himself, always took care of everybody, always a gentleman. 128 00:07:21,760 --> 00:07:24,800 Speaker 3: And you know, I think I think we had a 129 00:07:24,800 --> 00:07:29,920 Speaker 3: lot of pretty uh you know, pretty intense people that 130 00:07:29,960 --> 00:07:32,480 Speaker 3: were willing to get dirty and do whatever. And I'm 131 00:07:32,520 --> 00:07:35,560 Speaker 3: not gonna lie. I mean I kept up and I 132 00:07:35,680 --> 00:07:37,280 Speaker 3: was definitely one of them. 133 00:07:38,000 --> 00:07:40,720 Speaker 1: Absolutely. I mean the only two missions that I went on, 134 00:07:40,760 --> 00:07:44,880 Speaker 1: I remember seeing you you bust ass, so thank you. 135 00:07:45,000 --> 00:07:47,080 Speaker 1: I think it's funny seeing like you've got this kind 136 00:07:47,120 --> 00:07:50,600 Speaker 1: of giant meat head teddy bear who's like I'll run 137 00:07:50,640 --> 00:07:53,160 Speaker 1: and go do it, and like in this final mission, 138 00:07:53,640 --> 00:07:54,559 Speaker 1: it's so good. 139 00:07:54,800 --> 00:07:56,679 Speaker 2: It is a valuable you are right. 140 00:07:56,520 --> 00:07:58,119 Speaker 1: You are yeah, And you can't get rid of someone 141 00:07:58,160 --> 00:08:01,640 Speaker 1: like that, like you need you need brute force sometimes 142 00:08:01,680 --> 00:08:03,840 Speaker 1: with something like that, who also is just willing to 143 00:08:03,880 --> 00:08:08,520 Speaker 1: like never will never give up. Congratulations to them. They 144 00:08:09,160 --> 00:08:11,280 Speaker 1: end up winning I think the full fifty thousand dollars 145 00:08:11,320 --> 00:08:13,440 Speaker 1: in the challenge. The prize pots now at two hundred 146 00:08:13,440 --> 00:08:16,040 Speaker 1: and eight thousand dollars, So we head on back to 147 00:08:16,040 --> 00:08:21,560 Speaker 1: the castle. Kate is causing chaos by manufacturing mistrust between Trischelle, Sandra, 148 00:08:21,760 --> 00:08:24,640 Speaker 1: and CT. I got to give it to Kate. She's 149 00:08:24,640 --> 00:08:28,800 Speaker 1: doing a pretty good job of getting the stink off 150 00:08:28,840 --> 00:08:29,080 Speaker 1: of her. 151 00:08:29,320 --> 00:08:31,720 Speaker 2: Well's her second time in, so she knows the game. 152 00:08:32,320 --> 00:08:33,320 Speaker 2: She knows how to do it. 153 00:08:33,360 --> 00:08:36,600 Speaker 3: Now when you get that chance to go back after 154 00:08:36,640 --> 00:08:39,400 Speaker 3: you learn the game so well, you're a different kind 155 00:08:39,400 --> 00:08:42,880 Speaker 3: of player. You play differently, things hit differently, as they say. 156 00:08:44,120 --> 00:08:46,680 Speaker 3: So she, yes, she's good at it, but she's funny too. 157 00:08:46,880 --> 00:08:49,000 Speaker 3: I mean, even if I thought she was a trader, 158 00:08:49,040 --> 00:08:50,160 Speaker 3: I'd still listen to her. 159 00:08:50,800 --> 00:08:55,200 Speaker 1: Going into the final roundtable. I imagine at this point everyone's 160 00:08:55,240 --> 00:08:58,839 Speaker 1: just so exhausted. Tell me about how you felt about 161 00:08:58,840 --> 00:09:01,599 Speaker 1: going into the final round table and then in comparison 162 00:09:01,679 --> 00:09:03,840 Speaker 1: like to this one. 163 00:09:03,360 --> 00:09:04,240 Speaker 2: You want the truth. 164 00:09:04,559 --> 00:09:10,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, So the night before this round table, Danielle was 165 00:09:10,280 --> 00:09:12,200 Speaker 3: voted out and I didn't vote for her, and I 166 00:09:12,320 --> 00:09:15,960 Speaker 3: was so bitter and angry about that that the final 167 00:09:16,080 --> 00:09:18,920 Speaker 3: roundtable was the one round table where I said, I 168 00:09:18,960 --> 00:09:21,800 Speaker 3: don't give up who I'm friends with, how close I 169 00:09:21,840 --> 00:09:25,640 Speaker 3: am they're going because and I voted. 170 00:09:25,720 --> 00:09:28,480 Speaker 2: Of course you'll find out who I voted for, But. 171 00:09:29,640 --> 00:09:33,320 Speaker 3: It was up until then, like I finally played as 172 00:09:33,360 --> 00:09:36,959 Speaker 3: the player because I was ready for it. 173 00:09:37,360 --> 00:09:42,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, and you go in also really unsure because it's 174 00:09:42,360 --> 00:09:42,800 Speaker 2: the end. 175 00:09:43,080 --> 00:09:46,200 Speaker 3: You can make it to the very end, it's right 176 00:09:46,240 --> 00:09:49,000 Speaker 3: in front of you, and you still can't trust one 177 00:09:49,040 --> 00:09:53,120 Speaker 3: single person around you. Yeah, it's a really weird feeling 178 00:09:53,120 --> 00:09:56,160 Speaker 3: to Also, it's very eerie in the castle towards the 179 00:09:56,320 --> 00:10:01,520 Speaker 3: end when you don't when it's it seems like everyone's 180 00:10:01,559 --> 00:10:03,520 Speaker 3: gone right, and it's a weird. 181 00:10:03,679 --> 00:10:05,040 Speaker 2: I kind of like there was. 182 00:10:05,000 --> 00:10:07,480 Speaker 3: One point where I'm walking through the hallway and I 183 00:10:07,480 --> 00:10:11,359 Speaker 3: didn't know where to go to because there's only like four. 184 00:10:11,120 --> 00:10:14,240 Speaker 2: People left, five people? What room are you going in? 185 00:10:14,400 --> 00:10:15,520 Speaker 2: Every room is empty? 186 00:10:16,160 --> 00:10:20,480 Speaker 3: And I felt like, in a really like macab way, 187 00:10:21,200 --> 00:10:23,240 Speaker 3: is this what it feels like when you get older 188 00:10:23,640 --> 00:10:26,280 Speaker 3: and people start to leave you and you lose people 189 00:10:26,320 --> 00:10:28,760 Speaker 3: close to you, and then it's just kind of like 190 00:10:29,320 --> 00:10:30,480 Speaker 3: very sparse. 191 00:10:30,120 --> 00:10:31,040 Speaker 2: The people that you're around. 192 00:10:31,040 --> 00:10:32,800 Speaker 3: It was a weird feeling to me, and that just 193 00:10:33,200 --> 00:10:38,079 Speaker 3: crossed my mind at the time. But you know, it's 194 00:10:38,120 --> 00:10:40,199 Speaker 3: it's kind of like it's a lot there's a lot 195 00:10:40,240 --> 00:10:43,240 Speaker 3: of different emotions going on in that minute because you 196 00:10:43,240 --> 00:10:45,840 Speaker 3: don't it's almost surreal that you made it that far too. 197 00:10:46,280 --> 00:10:51,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, the final roundtable is pretty interesting. CT and Sandra 198 00:10:51,400 --> 00:10:54,360 Speaker 1: realized they were kind of pitted against one another by Kate, 199 00:10:54,400 --> 00:10:57,680 Speaker 1: which surprised me that the voting went the way it 200 00:10:57,720 --> 00:10:59,839 Speaker 1: did because it seemed pretty obvious that Kate was me 201 00:10:59,840 --> 00:11:04,679 Speaker 1: in manufacturing this. But regardless, Kate, MJ, Trichelle, and CT, 202 00:11:04,880 --> 00:11:09,079 Speaker 1: they all vote for Sandra and she's banished from the game. 203 00:11:09,760 --> 00:11:12,960 Speaker 1: Why do you think that they pivoted over? And you know, 204 00:11:13,800 --> 00:11:16,880 Speaker 1: CT and Trichelle had this kind of like packed beforehand, 205 00:11:16,920 --> 00:11:19,320 Speaker 1: they were going to go after Kate and they didn't. 206 00:11:19,360 --> 00:11:21,320 Speaker 1: Why do you think that they ended up pivoting in 207 00:11:21,360 --> 00:11:23,080 Speaker 1: the middle of that roundtable? 208 00:11:23,360 --> 00:11:24,040 Speaker 2: I don't know. 209 00:11:25,000 --> 00:11:27,920 Speaker 3: Again, and I would have never seen that coming. It 210 00:11:28,000 --> 00:11:29,240 Speaker 3: was unpredictable to me. 211 00:11:29,760 --> 00:11:32,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that there's a world in which it 212 00:11:32,960 --> 00:11:35,440 Speaker 1: doesn't really matter if we get someone out here at 213 00:11:35,480 --> 00:11:40,600 Speaker 1: the end of this roundtable, because like, if I'm CT, 214 00:11:41,280 --> 00:11:45,000 Speaker 1: I think the way that CT and Trischelle orchestrated this 215 00:11:45,040 --> 00:11:48,520 Speaker 1: whole thing was it should be us two at the end. 216 00:11:49,200 --> 00:11:53,040 Speaker 1: So let's get everyone out and us two are at 217 00:11:53,080 --> 00:11:53,880 Speaker 1: the end. That's the way. 218 00:11:53,880 --> 00:11:57,080 Speaker 2: That doesn't matter at this point. Yeah, it doesn't matter 219 00:11:57,120 --> 00:11:58,760 Speaker 2: what they are, but you got to get a trader. 220 00:11:59,280 --> 00:12:01,839 Speaker 1: Yeah, but it's also a great way of knowing who 221 00:12:01,840 --> 00:12:04,840 Speaker 1: a trader is, right, because if it isn't her, Like 222 00:12:05,080 --> 00:12:08,320 Speaker 1: if if all everything else else is equal, and you 223 00:12:08,360 --> 00:12:10,520 Speaker 1: know you're gonna get rid of kind of everyone except 224 00:12:10,520 --> 00:12:14,520 Speaker 1: you too, and you get rid of Sandra and she's 225 00:12:14,559 --> 00:12:17,040 Speaker 1: not a trader, well, then okay, we obviously know Kate's 226 00:12:17,080 --> 00:12:21,200 Speaker 1: the last one because someone had to have murdered what's 227 00:12:21,200 --> 00:12:23,959 Speaker 1: your name the night before, right, So like it gives 228 00:12:23,960 --> 00:12:26,560 Speaker 1: you an opportunity to like have an answer before you 229 00:12:26,600 --> 00:12:30,840 Speaker 1: need the answer, and so like I think that, like 230 00:12:31,880 --> 00:12:34,520 Speaker 1: that's my theory on why CT change it was. I 231 00:12:34,520 --> 00:12:36,600 Speaker 1: don't even care. It doesn't really matter. We can get 232 00:12:36,679 --> 00:12:39,000 Speaker 1: Kate out on the next one, we're gonna I'm gonna 233 00:12:39,080 --> 00:12:41,720 Speaker 1: chisel this down to us too, anyways. 234 00:12:41,880 --> 00:12:42,600 Speaker 2: Right, you goad. 235 00:12:42,640 --> 00:12:47,880 Speaker 3: But but essentially you have to be careful about wasting 236 00:12:48,920 --> 00:12:51,920 Speaker 3: the vote because there's not a lot of room. You 237 00:12:51,960 --> 00:12:55,679 Speaker 3: don't get a lot of there's not a big margin. 238 00:12:55,920 --> 00:12:58,720 Speaker 2: To screw up here. Yeah, so yeah, but how do 239 00:12:58,720 --> 00:13:00,600 Speaker 2: you know there's not two traders left? 240 00:13:01,000 --> 00:13:01,840 Speaker 1: Yeah? 241 00:13:01,880 --> 00:13:03,720 Speaker 2: They didn't know that they didn't. 242 00:13:03,760 --> 00:13:07,960 Speaker 1: And I also think that that is Trischelle's excuse to 243 00:13:08,120 --> 00:13:10,200 Speaker 1: MJ at the end is how how was I to 244 00:13:10,240 --> 00:13:12,000 Speaker 1: know that you weren't TILL a trader? 245 00:13:12,120 --> 00:13:14,839 Speaker 2: Right? And how would Rochelle know that CT wasn't? 246 00:13:15,280 --> 00:13:19,440 Speaker 1: Trischelle seemed pretty well. I mean, we'll get there, because 247 00:13:19,520 --> 00:13:22,480 Speaker 1: the way that CT does switch up in this roundtable 248 00:13:22,800 --> 00:13:26,880 Speaker 1: ends up putting doubt in Trischelle's mind later on down 249 00:13:26,880 --> 00:13:31,240 Speaker 1: the road. Right anyways, obviously Sandra is a faithful and 250 00:13:31,280 --> 00:13:36,920 Speaker 1: Trachelle is skeptical of CT for breaking their original plan. 251 00:13:37,040 --> 00:13:41,520 Speaker 1: The last four players join in the Fire of Truth. Now, 252 00:13:41,559 --> 00:13:43,920 Speaker 1: this is something that very few people get to experience. 253 00:13:43,960 --> 00:13:46,679 Speaker 1: But you have tell me all the behind the scenes 254 00:13:46,720 --> 00:13:49,520 Speaker 1: stuff the Fire of truth? How late is it? How 255 00:13:49,520 --> 00:13:51,960 Speaker 1: long you been sitting around? How annoyed are you? Are 256 00:13:52,040 --> 00:13:53,319 Speaker 1: you ready to get out of here and have a 257 00:13:53,360 --> 00:13:56,360 Speaker 1: glass of wine? What is happening at that moment. 258 00:13:57,120 --> 00:14:01,360 Speaker 3: Well, for me, when we're standing there in the circle 259 00:14:01,400 --> 00:14:03,679 Speaker 3: of truth, it's freezing. 260 00:14:04,160 --> 00:14:06,079 Speaker 2: It is so cold because it is so late. 261 00:14:06,120 --> 00:14:07,640 Speaker 3: Now you have to understand, I don't know if it's 262 00:14:07,640 --> 00:14:09,679 Speaker 3: one o'clock in the morning, I don't know if it's 263 00:14:09,720 --> 00:14:13,640 Speaker 3: one thirty in the morning. But you know what, at 264 00:14:13,640 --> 00:14:17,800 Speaker 3: that point, it's like, there's nothing more I can do. 265 00:14:17,960 --> 00:14:21,200 Speaker 3: I have done everything to win this game. I have 266 00:14:22,160 --> 00:14:27,160 Speaker 3: gone through every mission, I've showed up every day, and like, 267 00:14:27,920 --> 00:14:31,720 Speaker 3: let it faward it be at this point, and at 268 00:14:31,760 --> 00:14:36,360 Speaker 3: that point, you're also so tired of losing friends and 269 00:14:36,440 --> 00:14:41,400 Speaker 3: voting the wrong people out at times that you're just like, 270 00:14:42,840 --> 00:14:45,960 Speaker 3: you know whatever. We were kind of different because we 271 00:14:45,960 --> 00:14:50,400 Speaker 3: were all we all came to a decision. Yeah hopefully 272 00:14:50,520 --> 00:14:52,680 Speaker 3: so we thought that we could trust each other and say, 273 00:14:52,760 --> 00:14:57,640 Speaker 3: let's just all win here. But that was different here. 274 00:14:57,880 --> 00:15:00,920 Speaker 3: That was we were all of course, oh faithfuls too, 275 00:15:00,960 --> 00:15:04,880 Speaker 3: but it was just you have to at that point 276 00:15:04,960 --> 00:15:08,000 Speaker 3: either either give it up to God or just trust 277 00:15:08,000 --> 00:15:09,040 Speaker 3: who you're standing next to. 278 00:15:10,520 --> 00:15:16,280 Speaker 1: How long of a time is it between that last 279 00:15:16,400 --> 00:15:19,400 Speaker 1: roundtable and the buyer of truth? 280 00:15:20,480 --> 00:15:26,120 Speaker 3: It's an hours, see time, there is very weird because 281 00:15:26,160 --> 00:15:27,120 Speaker 3: you don't have a watch. 282 00:15:27,440 --> 00:15:29,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, you have no sense of time. 283 00:15:29,880 --> 00:15:31,760 Speaker 3: And by then you really don't have a sense of 284 00:15:31,800 --> 00:15:34,120 Speaker 3: time because now you've been there for over a month 285 00:15:34,560 --> 00:15:37,640 Speaker 3: with never knowing what time it is. So unless you're 286 00:15:38,560 --> 00:15:40,640 Speaker 3: cognizant of that, how do you know what's an hour? 287 00:15:40,800 --> 00:15:41,960 Speaker 3: That an hour has gone by? 288 00:15:42,040 --> 00:15:42,520 Speaker 2: You don't know? 289 00:15:43,000 --> 00:15:46,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't think it's hours, No, I really don't. 290 00:15:46,680 --> 00:15:49,320 Speaker 2: But I remember getting dressed up for it. 291 00:15:49,440 --> 00:15:53,000 Speaker 3: Now we're going to change, and we get dressed up, 292 00:15:53,120 --> 00:15:58,080 Speaker 3: and they have these really specific outfits for us, all picked. 293 00:15:57,800 --> 00:16:00,400 Speaker 1: Out and oh, so this wasn't your wardrobe for the 294 00:16:00,480 --> 00:16:02,240 Speaker 1: last thing, Well, this. 295 00:16:02,040 --> 00:16:03,720 Speaker 2: One was, but not the jacket. 296 00:16:04,160 --> 00:16:04,960 Speaker 1: Yeah. 297 00:16:05,000 --> 00:16:08,200 Speaker 3: And they put heaters in my shoes. Uh huh, those 298 00:16:08,280 --> 00:16:11,920 Speaker 3: heating things in my shoes. We had heaters, the heating 299 00:16:11,960 --> 00:16:16,480 Speaker 3: pouches in our pockets and yeah. And the biggest thing 300 00:16:16,560 --> 00:16:19,560 Speaker 3: is when you're throwing that pouch in the fire. Yeah 301 00:16:20,080 --> 00:16:22,280 Speaker 3: you're so, you looked at it fifty times because you 302 00:16:22,280 --> 00:16:23,800 Speaker 3: want to make sure you threw in the right color. 303 00:16:24,000 --> 00:16:25,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, throw it in the wrong color. 304 00:16:25,640 --> 00:16:27,280 Speaker 3: Now we had to vote somebody out, which we all 305 00:16:27,320 --> 00:16:28,720 Speaker 3: agreed we wouldn't be doing. 306 00:16:37,520 --> 00:16:40,240 Speaker 1: All right, So the last four players join the Fire 307 00:16:40,280 --> 00:16:42,440 Speaker 1: of Truth. Each person has an opportunity to decide if 308 00:16:42,480 --> 00:16:45,560 Speaker 1: they want to end the game or banish again. The 309 00:16:45,560 --> 00:16:48,520 Speaker 1: game can only end if they if all of them 310 00:16:48,560 --> 00:16:51,200 Speaker 1: choose to do the exact same thing. So Trichelle, CT, 311 00:16:51,360 --> 00:16:55,000 Speaker 1: and MJ all vote to banish again. I think Kate 312 00:16:55,120 --> 00:16:56,960 Speaker 1: probably can read the writing on the wall at this 313 00:16:57,120 --> 00:17:01,800 Speaker 1: point that they're all going to go after her. Alan 314 00:17:01,800 --> 00:17:03,960 Speaker 1: gives them the final option to end the game, or 315 00:17:04,119 --> 00:17:07,919 Speaker 1: so they banish Kate. I feel like Kate is just 316 00:17:08,040 --> 00:17:09,639 Speaker 1: relieved it's over at this point. 317 00:17:09,960 --> 00:17:12,800 Speaker 3: Yes, and no, I don't think you're relieved it's over 318 00:17:13,480 --> 00:17:15,520 Speaker 3: because she's standing there saying this. 319 00:17:15,520 --> 00:17:19,680 Speaker 2: Is this money? How much is it? One hundred? 320 00:17:20,200 --> 00:17:23,520 Speaker 1: Well, two hundred and eight thousand if just she wins it. 321 00:17:24,080 --> 00:17:26,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, And at that point you're like, listen, everybody knows 322 00:17:26,640 --> 00:17:28,600 Speaker 3: what they signed up for. The guilt is over, the 323 00:17:28,680 --> 00:17:32,199 Speaker 3: conscience is over. You become now unconscionable. Now you're like 324 00:17:33,119 --> 00:17:35,919 Speaker 3: right there and you could just take it and run. 325 00:17:36,200 --> 00:17:38,560 Speaker 3: And at this point you're like, hey, why not? But 326 00:17:39,080 --> 00:17:42,680 Speaker 3: I think anyway, and yeah. 327 00:17:42,480 --> 00:17:43,919 Speaker 2: She was. It's just weird. 328 00:17:44,000 --> 00:17:46,280 Speaker 3: It's it's gotta be a weird feeling with her standing 329 00:17:46,280 --> 00:17:49,720 Speaker 3: there knowing I don't know. I know Kate very well, 330 00:17:49,720 --> 00:17:51,919 Speaker 3: and I don't think she'd want to take that money really, 331 00:17:52,119 --> 00:17:55,760 Speaker 3: to tell you the truth. Really, Yeah, she's so good 332 00:17:55,880 --> 00:18:00,480 Speaker 3: and she's she's so morally correct and everything. I think 333 00:18:00,760 --> 00:18:02,399 Speaker 3: she would have done it, but I don't think she 334 00:18:02,440 --> 00:18:04,879 Speaker 3: would have enjoyed it as much as somebody else would have. 335 00:18:05,880 --> 00:18:08,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, like CT and Chochelle. 336 00:18:09,080 --> 00:18:14,199 Speaker 1: Yeah, this is where it gets. It is a little dirty, 337 00:18:14,440 --> 00:18:20,479 Speaker 1: Like it feels a little dirty where MJ thinks that 338 00:18:20,560 --> 00:18:24,360 Speaker 1: they're all faithfuls correctfully so and that they're all going 339 00:18:24,400 --> 00:18:26,960 Speaker 1: to vote for it, and then she realizes. You can 340 00:18:27,160 --> 00:18:30,760 Speaker 1: you can see the moment when she realizes, oh my god, 341 00:18:31,520 --> 00:18:34,520 Speaker 1: you guys are colluding against me and I'm screwed. 342 00:18:35,520 --> 00:18:37,920 Speaker 2: First, she looks at them, she's like, guys, we made 343 00:18:37,960 --> 00:18:41,840 Speaker 2: I have chills. Oh so sickonding Yeah. She looks at them, 344 00:18:41,880 --> 00:18:47,439 Speaker 2: she's like, guys, we made it. And then she realizes 345 00:18:48,720 --> 00:18:51,560 Speaker 2: they look at her and they're like yeah. 346 00:18:51,040 --> 00:18:54,280 Speaker 3: No, and she's like, oh my god, now mind you. 347 00:18:54,359 --> 00:18:57,400 Speaker 3: She had a baby at home, she left to come here. 348 00:18:58,240 --> 00:19:01,320 Speaker 3: She made it through every challenge and she's gotten through 349 00:19:01,359 --> 00:19:05,000 Speaker 3: every roundtable. I don't agree with what they did. I'm sorry, 350 00:19:05,440 --> 00:19:06,200 Speaker 3: I just don't. 351 00:19:06,560 --> 00:19:10,199 Speaker 1: I don't either, I understand it. I'm surprised that they 352 00:19:10,240 --> 00:19:12,040 Speaker 1: didn't get more backlash for it. 353 00:19:13,920 --> 00:19:18,240 Speaker 2: Because gamers watched the show, and gamers know what you're 354 00:19:18,280 --> 00:19:19,000 Speaker 2: supposed to do. 355 00:19:19,119 --> 00:19:23,679 Speaker 3: That we got backlash for not voting each other out. Yeah, Dylan, 356 00:19:23,760 --> 00:19:26,760 Speaker 3: I know, I know, Dale. But bost and Rob probably 357 00:19:26,840 --> 00:19:28,880 Speaker 3: said to Dylan, were you stupid? 358 00:19:29,480 --> 00:19:33,320 Speaker 1: Well, yeah, you're damn if you do, and you're damned 359 00:19:33,320 --> 00:19:34,840 Speaker 1: if you don't. But the thing about it is is 360 00:19:34,880 --> 00:19:37,679 Speaker 1: that it came really really close to CT being the 361 00:19:37,680 --> 00:19:42,680 Speaker 1: one that got banished there at the end, and if 362 00:19:42,720 --> 00:19:45,160 Speaker 1: things had gone a little bit different, you know, MJ 363 00:19:45,720 --> 00:19:48,560 Speaker 1: all of a sudden realizes that, like you know, she 364 00:19:48,680 --> 00:19:53,160 Speaker 1: got got they're coming after me. And then they all 365 00:19:53,280 --> 00:19:56,040 Speaker 1: vote and MJ's like, well, I guess I'll vote for Trishelle. 366 00:19:56,560 --> 00:20:02,320 Speaker 1: Trischelle blips and goes on CT. CT sticks to the 367 00:20:02,359 --> 00:20:06,040 Speaker 1: plan of staying with MJ. Now, if MJ had had 368 00:20:06,240 --> 00:20:09,240 Speaker 1: had any idea what Chrischelle was going to do, or 369 00:20:09,800 --> 00:20:13,760 Speaker 1: if she had just picked CT instead, he would have 370 00:20:13,800 --> 00:20:17,680 Speaker 1: been out. Because Chrischelle made that weird, like last play 371 00:20:17,720 --> 00:20:18,360 Speaker 1: against him. 372 00:20:19,119 --> 00:20:24,240 Speaker 3: I feel like that was a leftover resentment from when 373 00:20:24,280 --> 00:20:28,879 Speaker 3: he didn't give her the torch. Yes, sorry, women hold grudges, bro, Yeah, 374 00:20:28,920 --> 00:20:31,600 Speaker 3: she was very hurt by that and never trusted him 375 00:20:31,640 --> 00:20:32,400 Speaker 3: again after that. 376 00:20:32,840 --> 00:20:34,600 Speaker 1: Well, I was just sitting there thinking like, wow, we 377 00:20:34,600 --> 00:20:37,840 Speaker 1: were so close to it going in a completely different way. 378 00:20:39,160 --> 00:20:43,840 Speaker 1: But regardless, they end up, you know, kind of finally 379 00:20:44,560 --> 00:20:48,760 Speaker 1: coming together. CT, I think, looks in her eyes and 380 00:20:48,880 --> 00:20:52,440 Speaker 1: is like, I'm so sorry. Let's vote for MJ here 381 00:20:52,520 --> 00:20:57,200 Speaker 1: and be the winner. And that's kind of how it ends. 382 00:20:57,680 --> 00:21:01,600 Speaker 1: As MJ's walking away. How angry would you be if 383 00:21:01,600 --> 00:21:02,439 Speaker 1: you were in her shoes? 384 00:21:03,040 --> 00:21:06,800 Speaker 2: I was angry for her. Yeah, I'm not an emotional person. 385 00:21:07,480 --> 00:21:09,960 Speaker 2: I felt like somebody punched me in the stomach. But hey, 386 00:21:10,359 --> 00:21:13,320 Speaker 2: you know what, I'm Jay, you didn't make a mistake. 387 00:21:13,400 --> 00:21:15,680 Speaker 2: You had the chance to win, and you want to 388 00:21:15,720 --> 00:21:21,199 Speaker 2: getst the wrong person. Sorry, you are partially culpable for this. 389 00:21:21,359 --> 00:21:25,360 Speaker 3: You are have to take accountability of your mistake, your 390 00:21:25,480 --> 00:21:26,720 Speaker 3: big mistake. 391 00:21:28,119 --> 00:21:32,919 Speaker 1: She also thought people were traders a lot that weren't, 392 00:21:33,920 --> 00:21:38,800 Speaker 1: and in my mind, I don't know if she if 393 00:21:38,840 --> 00:21:40,760 Speaker 1: I think that she played as good of a game 394 00:21:40,800 --> 00:21:45,879 Speaker 1: as Trischelle and CT did. I understand them doing what 395 00:21:45,920 --> 00:21:48,280 Speaker 1: they did. I think it's messed up and they probably 396 00:21:48,280 --> 00:21:49,960 Speaker 1: all should have sat there and taken it. 397 00:21:50,320 --> 00:21:53,560 Speaker 2: I think somebody lasting that far deserves something. 398 00:21:54,040 --> 00:21:58,520 Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, screen time, Trichelle and CT both reveal that 399 00:21:58,560 --> 00:22:02,600 Speaker 1: they are faithful. They when together, they'd take home one 400 00:22:02,680 --> 00:22:05,320 Speaker 1: hundred and four thousand fifty dollars each. 401 00:22:05,400 --> 00:22:07,240 Speaker 2: Any like humps her on the goals. 402 00:22:07,680 --> 00:22:09,680 Speaker 1: I know it was very sexual. 403 00:22:10,280 --> 00:22:12,640 Speaker 3: I need you to tell me something, because that's why 404 00:22:12,720 --> 00:22:16,640 Speaker 3: I said to Trochelle. Yeah, like all I thought about 405 00:22:16,720 --> 00:22:19,159 Speaker 3: at the time when I saw that was like I 406 00:22:19,200 --> 00:22:20,639 Speaker 3: would be at the bottom of the Hudson. 407 00:22:20,760 --> 00:22:24,880 Speaker 2: I would not come home. There's no way, Paul Connell 408 00:22:25,280 --> 00:22:28,560 Speaker 2: from Dublin. It would have been a war. 409 00:22:28,960 --> 00:22:31,840 Speaker 3: It would have been an absolute end of my relationship. 410 00:22:31,960 --> 00:22:35,520 Speaker 3: I am not kidding you. And I said to Trichelle, like, 411 00:22:35,960 --> 00:22:38,320 Speaker 3: I didn't even know. I don't know why I didn't 412 00:22:38,320 --> 00:22:39,280 Speaker 3: know her personal life. 413 00:22:39,280 --> 00:22:41,399 Speaker 2: And I'm sorry for that because I do know a 414 00:22:41,400 --> 00:22:43,760 Speaker 2: lot about her, but that I didn't know she was 415 00:22:43,800 --> 00:22:45,000 Speaker 2: married to a pilot whatever. 416 00:22:45,040 --> 00:22:47,800 Speaker 3: They have this big trust in their relationship and that's why, 417 00:22:47,920 --> 00:22:51,800 Speaker 3: like I said to her, like I got nervous for her. Yeah, 418 00:22:51,840 --> 00:22:54,000 Speaker 3: and no man, I ever been with that would. 419 00:22:53,840 --> 00:22:56,440 Speaker 2: Have allowed that. But let me ask you something you 420 00:22:57,240 --> 00:23:01,520 Speaker 2: live in a normal relationship, would you have been upset? 421 00:23:01,880 --> 00:23:05,320 Speaker 1: I mean, I guess I have to know the relationship 422 00:23:05,440 --> 00:23:10,720 Speaker 1: of my partner and that person. Here's what I'm thinking. 423 00:23:10,960 --> 00:23:13,720 Speaker 1: I'm thinking that they have been in the Challenge MTV 424 00:23:14,160 --> 00:23:18,520 Speaker 1: Real World road Rules thing for so long, that they 425 00:23:18,600 --> 00:23:23,560 Speaker 1: are close, and that CT's got like a little bit 426 00:23:23,600 --> 00:23:25,520 Speaker 1: of like a big brother thing. 427 00:23:26,160 --> 00:23:31,160 Speaker 2: Yes, I don't straddle my brother ever, and I'm very 428 00:23:31,200 --> 00:23:32,200 Speaker 2: close with my brother. 429 00:23:32,359 --> 00:23:37,639 Speaker 3: I've known him fifty five years. Yeah, anyway, I'm just 430 00:23:37,680 --> 00:23:38,840 Speaker 3: being a jerk about it. 431 00:23:39,520 --> 00:23:42,119 Speaker 1: I don't disagree with what you're saying. 432 00:23:42,160 --> 00:23:47,240 Speaker 3: No, I'm just saying because in my relationship, yeah, that would. 433 00:23:47,000 --> 00:23:51,800 Speaker 2: Not even fly at all. But okay, listen, it was fun. 434 00:23:51,960 --> 00:23:54,439 Speaker 2: It was funny to watch. Let's not lose sight of 435 00:23:54,480 --> 00:23:56,760 Speaker 2: this whole big thing. So they win the money, they 436 00:23:56,800 --> 00:23:58,119 Speaker 2: split the money. 437 00:23:58,720 --> 00:24:03,199 Speaker 3: It was an incredible, crazy ending for me. It was 438 00:24:03,359 --> 00:24:07,040 Speaker 3: a suspense to the last second. And then the cherry 439 00:24:07,040 --> 00:24:09,919 Speaker 3: on top was the mounting of the gold. 440 00:24:10,320 --> 00:24:13,159 Speaker 1: Yeah. By the way, when he jumps on the gold, 441 00:24:13,680 --> 00:24:15,960 Speaker 1: I'm sitting there thinking that doesn't hurt your back. 442 00:24:16,040 --> 00:24:21,520 Speaker 3: But I'm just first of all, dude, that's heavy and 443 00:24:21,600 --> 00:24:23,240 Speaker 3: Alan doesn't like you touching it. 444 00:24:23,640 --> 00:24:24,440 Speaker 1: Yeah. 445 00:24:24,560 --> 00:24:26,120 Speaker 2: Oh and then he kisses out like. 446 00:24:26,400 --> 00:24:29,120 Speaker 1: He kissed al a lot, like multiple times. 447 00:24:29,680 --> 00:24:34,160 Speaker 3: Okay, So where I come from, Yeah, before this relationship 448 00:24:34,200 --> 00:24:36,879 Speaker 3: that I'm in there, I would be like that. I 449 00:24:37,040 --> 00:24:39,159 Speaker 3: was always kissy, how like I would hang out and 450 00:24:39,200 --> 00:24:43,879 Speaker 3: it's totally innocent. Cet is like one of the guys 451 00:24:43,920 --> 00:24:46,640 Speaker 3: from Sake Valley High School I grew up with in 452 00:24:46,840 --> 00:24:49,920 Speaker 3: Patterson or Totoa, the guys that stand on the corner 453 00:24:49,920 --> 00:24:54,400 Speaker 3: with their friends. Ay, oh, everybody's family. The repo guy, 454 00:24:54,880 --> 00:24:58,840 Speaker 3: he's the Repo guy and that's that's it. 455 00:24:58,880 --> 00:25:03,600 Speaker 2: But all no harm, no foul, all good. 456 00:25:03,880 --> 00:25:06,879 Speaker 3: And I'm so happy that Michelle didn't get in trouble 457 00:25:06,920 --> 00:25:09,040 Speaker 3: for that, and I'm glad that they're still allowed to 458 00:25:09,080 --> 00:25:11,480 Speaker 3: be friends, and that's very important. 459 00:25:11,760 --> 00:25:16,120 Speaker 1: She's also got one hundred and four thousand reasons to 460 00:25:16,160 --> 00:25:19,080 Speaker 1: have her husband not be angry at her for what 461 00:25:19,200 --> 00:25:20,800 Speaker 1: happened at the end of the show. 462 00:25:21,280 --> 00:25:25,080 Speaker 3: I mean, if he did it because he was like, hey, listen, 463 00:25:25,119 --> 00:25:27,600 Speaker 3: take one for the team, baby. If you gotta do 464 00:25:27,640 --> 00:25:30,760 Speaker 3: what you gotta do to win, that's fine, but you're 465 00:25:30,840 --> 00:25:31,679 Speaker 3: not the man for me. 466 00:25:40,200 --> 00:25:43,159 Speaker 1: So now let's go through it. So season one a 467 00:25:43,240 --> 00:25:44,640 Speaker 1: trader one, right. 468 00:25:44,880 --> 00:25:49,960 Speaker 2: Yes, remember Sarring. She was amazing, she was a brilliant gamer. 469 00:25:51,240 --> 00:25:54,959 Speaker 3: Then there was then there's this that the two faithfuls 470 00:25:55,000 --> 00:25:58,600 Speaker 3: one but really sticking it to MJ in the end 471 00:25:58,720 --> 00:26:03,120 Speaker 3: when they swear honestly, what's the difference of the money. 472 00:26:03,200 --> 00:26:04,639 Speaker 2: Let's go over this really quick. 473 00:26:04,960 --> 00:26:07,159 Speaker 3: Wells, you're you're a smart guy, and I know that 474 00:26:07,200 --> 00:26:09,439 Speaker 3: you were much smarter than me, and you could do 475 00:26:09,480 --> 00:26:13,159 Speaker 3: the math. So instead oh look he's taking out his calculator. Okay, 476 00:26:14,400 --> 00:26:16,480 Speaker 3: at least you know how to use the calculator. So 477 00:26:17,000 --> 00:26:19,840 Speaker 3: we're splitting that money three ways instead of two. What's 478 00:26:19,880 --> 00:26:21,119 Speaker 3: the difference of the money. 479 00:26:21,880 --> 00:26:25,119 Speaker 1: It'll have been sixty nine thousand dollars each instead of 480 00:26:25,160 --> 00:26:29,119 Speaker 1: one hundred and four thousand dollars each, so effectively thirty 481 00:26:29,400 --> 00:26:33,440 Speaker 1: four thousand dollars more taxes. 482 00:26:33,880 --> 00:26:38,760 Speaker 3: Well, you have me Scotland and whatever date they live in, Yeah, taxes, 483 00:26:38,800 --> 00:26:46,639 Speaker 3: let's say twenty something, right, Yeah? Was it worth it? 484 00:26:46,680 --> 00:26:51,280 Speaker 3: Probably really worth it to stick it to MJ like that. 485 00:26:51,520 --> 00:26:56,160 Speaker 3: First of all, MJ's my friend number one CT. I've 486 00:26:56,200 --> 00:26:58,040 Speaker 3: never met Michelle. I like you very much, but it 487 00:26:58,119 --> 00:27:00,399 Speaker 3: wasn't nice. That was not nice to do. 488 00:27:00,840 --> 00:27:03,199 Speaker 1: Well, it's here's the thing. They were faithfuls, but that 489 00:27:03,320 --> 00:27:06,000 Speaker 1: was some traitorous behavior there at the end. 490 00:27:06,560 --> 00:27:08,639 Speaker 2: It was but I still have to go back to 491 00:27:08,880 --> 00:27:10,440 Speaker 2: mj up. 492 00:27:11,040 --> 00:27:14,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, should have stuck with Trischelle and then she probably 493 00:27:14,920 --> 00:27:16,159 Speaker 3: didn't feel bad after that. 494 00:27:16,800 --> 00:27:20,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, And so then you know, obviously the next season, 495 00:27:20,119 --> 00:27:23,080 Speaker 1: we know that you famously a bunch of faithfuls win. 496 00:27:23,359 --> 00:27:26,760 Speaker 1: So season four coming up at the beginning of next year, 497 00:27:27,560 --> 00:27:30,640 Speaker 1: it's it's right now, it's two faithfuls and one and 498 00:27:30,760 --> 00:27:33,240 Speaker 1: one trader have won. Do you think that there's a 499 00:27:33,359 --> 00:27:35,720 Speaker 1: chance that a trader wins season four? 500 00:27:36,000 --> 00:27:38,200 Speaker 2: There's always a chance a trader wins. 501 00:27:38,640 --> 00:27:42,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, a trader is actually due to win because one 502 00:27:42,200 --> 00:27:43,600 Speaker 3: hasn't won since season one. 503 00:27:44,160 --> 00:27:49,159 Speaker 4: So yeah, statistically statistically speaking, well, statistically speaking, that the 504 00:27:49,320 --> 00:27:57,760 Speaker 4: trader should always win because the informed minority always wins 505 00:27:57,880 --> 00:27:59,639 Speaker 4: over the uninformed majority. 506 00:28:01,040 --> 00:28:03,480 Speaker 2: How did you note see I told you were smart. 507 00:28:04,240 --> 00:28:07,600 Speaker 1: Well, so this whole this whole game and MC mafia 508 00:28:07,800 --> 00:28:14,520 Speaker 1: or Werewolf is based upon a Russian social experiment and 509 00:28:16,080 --> 00:28:18,679 Speaker 1: what they found was is that, I mean, it's so 510 00:28:18,720 --> 00:28:21,280 Speaker 1: it's a way to be able to manipulate your population. 511 00:28:21,640 --> 00:28:25,399 Speaker 1: But what they found was that the informed minority would 512 00:28:25,440 --> 00:28:30,280 Speaker 1: always be able to outsmart the uninformed majority. So here's 513 00:28:30,320 --> 00:28:35,760 Speaker 1: my thought. I think that we have now enough case 514 00:28:35,800 --> 00:28:38,920 Speaker 1: study for people who are going to be traders to 515 00:28:39,000 --> 00:28:41,720 Speaker 1: see what the pitfalls of the traders have been passed 516 00:28:42,080 --> 00:28:44,560 Speaker 1: to be able to play a much smarter game than 517 00:28:44,560 --> 00:28:47,840 Speaker 1: they have these first three seasons. So my thought is 518 00:28:47,840 --> 00:28:51,120 Speaker 1: is that a trader or traders will win this over 519 00:28:51,160 --> 00:28:52,480 Speaker 1: Faithful's what we shall see. 520 00:28:53,880 --> 00:28:57,400 Speaker 3: See I'm learning from you. That is so smart. What 521 00:28:57,560 --> 00:29:00,960 Speaker 3: you just said, it was so interesting. People need to 522 00:29:01,000 --> 00:29:05,080 Speaker 3: listen to this podcast because that was just amazing and 523 00:29:05,240 --> 00:29:07,680 Speaker 3: valuable information that you just told us. I need to 524 00:29:07,720 --> 00:29:10,080 Speaker 3: read more instead of doom scroll on my Instagram all 525 00:29:10,160 --> 00:29:16,440 Speaker 3: day and looking at dogs and ballroom dancing and people 526 00:29:16,440 --> 00:29:17,320 Speaker 3: I wish I looked like. 527 00:29:17,440 --> 00:29:20,960 Speaker 2: But I'm going to tell you that that is so 528 00:29:21,080 --> 00:29:23,920 Speaker 2: true and so interesting, and. 529 00:29:25,480 --> 00:29:28,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, we need to But this is my this is 530 00:29:28,680 --> 00:29:32,880 Speaker 3: my problem with the game is nothing's as good as 531 00:29:32,880 --> 00:29:35,440 Speaker 3: the first time, right, So we've seen, like the first time, 532 00:29:35,480 --> 00:29:38,920 Speaker 3: a trader wins, and we've seen two faithfuls win and 533 00:29:39,080 --> 00:29:41,800 Speaker 3: vote out the person at the last minute, and then 534 00:29:41,840 --> 00:29:43,320 Speaker 3: we see what we see on ours. 535 00:29:44,120 --> 00:29:45,600 Speaker 2: I just don't want to. 536 00:29:45,760 --> 00:29:49,040 Speaker 3: I don't want this to get so so good that 537 00:29:49,280 --> 00:29:52,680 Speaker 3: we lose the excitement of it, like what you're saying, 538 00:29:52,760 --> 00:29:56,600 Speaker 3: Like the more it goes on, the more people learn 539 00:29:57,040 --> 00:29:59,760 Speaker 3: patterns of what can happen and what can do and 540 00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:02,280 Speaker 3: kind of takes the excitement and the edge out of it. 541 00:30:02,440 --> 00:30:02,520 Speaker 2: No. 542 00:30:03,520 --> 00:30:06,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree with what you're saying. I do think though, 543 00:30:06,680 --> 00:30:11,440 Speaker 1: that the the production or the game makers have an 544 00:30:11,440 --> 00:30:14,000 Speaker 1: ace up there sleevers. They can always change things around 545 00:30:14,200 --> 00:30:16,800 Speaker 1: and make a very similar game be a lot different. 546 00:30:17,640 --> 00:30:19,440 Speaker 1: And I think that that's what's going to happen this season. 547 00:30:19,480 --> 00:30:21,120 Speaker 1: I think there's going to be a big switch up 548 00:30:21,160 --> 00:30:24,840 Speaker 1: than we've had in the past in which will change gameplay. 549 00:30:25,200 --> 00:30:28,440 Speaker 1: And also Alan has said this is like the most 550 00:30:28,480 --> 00:30:31,360 Speaker 1: dramatic season or like one of the craziest seasons coming. 551 00:30:31,200 --> 00:30:33,120 Speaker 2: Up, and he said that about ours. 552 00:30:33,400 --> 00:30:37,200 Speaker 3: I know it was, though, Okay, but he's gonna say 553 00:30:37,200 --> 00:30:38,240 Speaker 3: that all the time. 554 00:30:38,640 --> 00:30:40,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a little Chris Harrison, this is the most 555 00:30:41,000 --> 00:30:44,440 Speaker 1: dramatic season ever, right, I get yeah? All right, So 556 00:30:44,560 --> 00:30:47,640 Speaker 1: that is the end of season two. We will start 557 00:30:47,720 --> 00:30:51,120 Speaker 1: up next week with season three. This season not I 558 00:30:51,160 --> 00:30:54,360 Speaker 1: want to spoil it, but the beautiful lady sitting across 559 00:30:54,360 --> 00:30:56,520 Speaker 1: from me right now may or may not have walked 560 00:30:56,520 --> 00:30:59,240 Speaker 1: away with a lot of money. But please go watch 561 00:30:59,280 --> 00:31:02,480 Speaker 1: the first couple episodes because we'll be recapping that as well. 562 00:31:02,480 --> 00:31:06,080 Speaker 1: Follow us on social media at by Orders of the Faithful. 563 00:31:06,240 --> 00:31:09,960 Speaker 1: And lastly, you're going to bravocon. Tell me what that's like, 564 00:31:10,040 --> 00:31:13,760 Speaker 1: because it's no, I don't. I don't work for Bravo. 565 00:31:13,920 --> 00:31:16,480 Speaker 2: I know you should be there because they're doing a 566 00:31:16,480 --> 00:31:17,760 Speaker 2: trader's panel. 567 00:31:18,360 --> 00:31:20,240 Speaker 1: I was well on it. I think you have to 568 00:31:20,240 --> 00:31:22,240 Speaker 1: be on the show to be on the panel. 569 00:31:22,400 --> 00:31:27,200 Speaker 2: But but you were, and you were such a great 570 00:31:27,240 --> 00:31:31,560 Speaker 2: part of it. Everyone missed you. But Bravocon is insane. 571 00:31:31,560 --> 00:31:34,920 Speaker 3: So if you've ever been to com con or yeah, 572 00:31:34,960 --> 00:31:39,680 Speaker 3: whatever con you go to, uh, it's thousands of people. 573 00:31:39,760 --> 00:31:42,880 Speaker 3: It sells out, tickets sell out wells. I think, like 574 00:31:42,960 --> 00:31:46,560 Speaker 3: in within a minute, I think maybe twenty thirty thousand 575 00:31:46,600 --> 00:31:49,200 Speaker 3: people forty thousand, I don't know how many come. And 576 00:31:49,600 --> 00:31:55,160 Speaker 3: it's crazy fans every day, meet and greets, lines, panels, 577 00:31:56,200 --> 00:32:00,720 Speaker 3: watch what happens, live appearances on the stage, whatever, housewife 578 00:32:01,080 --> 00:32:05,120 Speaker 3: from everywhere. It's like bra if, Like if you're a 579 00:32:05,200 --> 00:32:10,840 Speaker 3: Bravo person. It's Bravo heaven. Yeah, because every single housewife 580 00:32:10,960 --> 00:32:13,360 Speaker 3: that you want to be or look up to, or 581 00:32:13,960 --> 00:32:16,280 Speaker 3: or you're a fan of is under one roof. 582 00:32:17,160 --> 00:32:20,360 Speaker 1: I also feel like though it grants a lot of 583 00:32:20,440 --> 00:32:24,520 Speaker 1: access to fans who might be a little crazy, Like 584 00:32:25,000 --> 00:32:27,640 Speaker 1: can stalkers show up there? Have they shown up there? 585 00:32:27,640 --> 00:32:29,040 Speaker 1: As security really tight? 586 00:32:30,000 --> 00:32:32,320 Speaker 2: Security is not as tight as it should because it's 587 00:32:32,360 --> 00:32:35,840 Speaker 2: hard to like, I've never there's a bizarre there's vendors, 588 00:32:35,960 --> 00:32:38,160 Speaker 2: and I've never gotten to walk through it because they 589 00:32:38,200 --> 00:32:39,400 Speaker 2: can't get through the door. 590 00:32:39,600 --> 00:32:40,840 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, because. 591 00:32:40,640 --> 00:32:46,280 Speaker 2: They give us like the guards are like kids from 592 00:32:46,600 --> 00:32:49,560 Speaker 2: like college, yeah yeah, or are looking for like a 593 00:32:49,640 --> 00:32:51,400 Speaker 2: job for the week. You know, they're not like they 594 00:32:51,400 --> 00:32:55,360 Speaker 2: don't know how to handle the cos Yeah yeah, not 595 00:32:55,520 --> 00:32:59,040 Speaker 2: even not even and they don't know how to like 596 00:32:59,360 --> 00:33:02,120 Speaker 2: like I don't know, have like a big bouncer with 597 00:33:02,160 --> 00:33:03,040 Speaker 2: me walking through. 598 00:33:03,520 --> 00:33:09,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, I have a handler, Danielle Trulio, one of my dearest, 599 00:33:09,160 --> 00:33:12,120 Speaker 3: most amazing people in my life, and she happens to 600 00:33:12,120 --> 00:33:13,400 Speaker 3: be my handler this year. 601 00:33:13,840 --> 00:33:14,320 Speaker 1: That's nice. 602 00:33:14,400 --> 00:33:16,280 Speaker 3: She'll be like more of a bodyguard to me than 603 00:33:16,320 --> 00:33:21,640 Speaker 3: a bodyguard will be. I'm bringing my assistant to take pictures. 604 00:33:21,680 --> 00:33:26,360 Speaker 3: Frankie Funachelli. The tickets are very like you. They're unattainable, 605 00:33:27,320 --> 00:33:28,000 Speaker 3: they really are. 606 00:33:28,200 --> 00:33:33,240 Speaker 2: So there's backstage passes, there's the regular passes, but all 607 00:33:33,280 --> 00:33:37,280 Speaker 2: of it is really cool and the fans deserve it, 608 00:33:37,600 --> 00:33:40,440 Speaker 2: they really do. They ride hard for us and they're 609 00:33:40,560 --> 00:33:41,160 Speaker 2: very loyal. 610 00:33:41,640 --> 00:33:43,560 Speaker 1: Well, I'm excited for you. Have fun over there. Make 611 00:33:43,560 --> 00:33:46,040 Speaker 1: sure to tell everyone that will listen that they should 612 00:33:46,040 --> 00:33:50,520 Speaker 1: listen to this podcast because yeah, it's a fun show 613 00:33:50,720 --> 00:33:53,720 Speaker 1: and season four is coming out very very soon. 614 00:33:54,240 --> 00:33:58,080 Speaker 3: Yeah so wells, I will announce it at Bravo Con 615 00:33:58,200 --> 00:34:00,560 Speaker 3: at every panel I'm on, I will. 616 00:34:00,520 --> 00:34:03,520 Speaker 2: Let them know about us and get the word out. 617 00:34:03,840 --> 00:34:06,520 Speaker 1: All right, all you Faithfuls and Traders out there, thanks 618 00:34:06,520 --> 00:34:08,840 Speaker 1: so much for listening to by Order of the Faithfuls. 619 00:34:08,840 --> 00:34:11,080 Speaker 1: We'll see you all again next week, where we break 620 00:34:11,120 --> 00:34:14,320 Speaker 1: down a new season, season three of The Traders.