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Speaker 1: So I just met Gary Byrne. He's gonna join us

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Speaker 1: in an hour from right now. He is the former

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Speaker 1: White House Secret Service officer wrote the book Crisis of Character,

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Speaker 1: a White House Secret Service officer discloses his firsthand experience

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Speaker 1: with Hillary Bill and how they operate. Wow. Read the

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Speaker 1: book over the weekend. This is a powerful, powerful book,

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Speaker 1: an indictment on somebody in this presidential election year that

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Speaker 1: does not have the temperament to be the president of

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Speaker 1: the United States. But you know, let him tell the story.

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Speaker 1: And I also just warned him. I said, you know

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Speaker 1: that there is a whole team of paid, sick offensive

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Speaker 1: Hillary that are out there. Media matters right now is

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Speaker 1: out there scanning the book, every chapter, every verse. You're

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Speaker 1: a horrible human, You're a liar, he's a discredited books.

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Speaker 1: You know. I was watching David Gurgan the day Trump

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Speaker 1: the book. There was like one minor paragraph that needed

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Speaker 1: the one paragraph. And that's just the way the left works.

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Speaker 1: They smear, slander, be smirch. It's basically just a matter

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Speaker 1: election year, and people don't listen to me. I'll give

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Speaker 1: you an example of this. ABC this week, and you

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Speaker 1: had a top surrogate for Hillary Clinton claiming on national

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Speaker 1: television that Donald Trump saying America first, and and that

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Speaker 1: brand of nationalism is really racism. What do I say

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Speaker 1: every now, remember her mentor the person that she loves

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Speaker 1: these people are phony. But anyway, if you're too pro

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Speaker 1: American and you want to put America first, deep down,

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Speaker 1: what you're really saying is you're a racist. Anyway. That

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Speaker 1: was said by Michael Eric Dyson. Isn't he an NBC

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Speaker 1: contributor to I don't know what he does anyway, He said,

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Speaker 1: of racism that Americans should soundly reject. Alex Castellano's talked

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Speaker 1: Trump and his nationalism do. And nationalism is really white, racist,

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Speaker 1: supremacist nationalism. You know, it's just nonsense. And it's so

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Speaker 1: I promise Donald Trump, let's let's hit the checklist we

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Speaker 1: ought to have, you know, like a date and you

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Speaker 1: win a prize. When is Hillary gonna play the gender card?

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Speaker 1: When is Hillary gonna play Republicans want dirty air and

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Speaker 1: dirty water? In that card, when are they gonna play

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Speaker 1: saw in the Daily Caller today. The Democratic Party at

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Speaker 1: their convention is ready to stage their own global warming

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Speaker 1: The political agenda predicated on a belief that capitalism is bad.

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Speaker 1: You know. Steve Moore's book was pretty good on this.

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Speaker 1: The goal of climate policies is to eliminate the coal, oil,

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Speaker 1: It's also never been specifically shown to harm the environment,

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Speaker 1: you have an Obama phone, what is that doing for

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Speaker 1: your life and the opportunity? What is Hillary's you know,

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Speaker 1: economic policy that's gonna get you out of your situation

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Speaker 1: those disproportionately impacted negatively impacted by these policies interestingly happened

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Speaker 1: me again? Roy? He subs me, Well, Romney probably would

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Speaker 1: their basic complaint is that Corbin didn't campaign hard enough

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Speaker 1: kind of guy that makes Bernie Sanders look like a

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Speaker 1: right winger anyway. But the main point here is that

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Speaker 1: and it's a deeply uncertain future for what lies ahead

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Speaker 1: It's dance down three eleven today. You know they lost

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Speaker 1: in August, and then in earnest, you know, we got

427
00:26:16,040 --> 00:26:18,960
Speaker 1: the conventions coming up July eight. We're gonna be in

428
00:26:19,000 --> 00:26:22,040
Speaker 1: Cleveland for the week. We'll probably even be there before

429
00:26:22,240 --> 00:26:24,200
Speaker 1: and then the week after we're gonna be in Philly

430
00:26:24,280 --> 00:26:27,600
Speaker 1: for the week. And after the conventions, we're gonna know

431
00:26:27,640 --> 00:26:30,159
Speaker 1: a lot more about the campaigns. We're gonna know a

432
00:26:30,200 --> 00:26:32,800
Speaker 1: lot more about their team, their choice for vice president.

433
00:26:33,400 --> 00:26:37,800
Speaker 1: I mean Hillary, Hillary and Elizabeth Warren Pocahontas were together

434
00:26:37,840 --> 00:26:43,640
Speaker 1: today and uh, you know Trump wears goofy hats. Well,

435
00:26:43,680 --> 00:26:47,320
Speaker 1: you know, take a DNA test. She claimed when she

436
00:26:47,359 --> 00:26:49,280
Speaker 1: worked at Harvard to be a minority. She was not

437
00:26:49,320 --> 00:26:52,879
Speaker 1: a Native American, and it's an insult that she claimed

438
00:26:52,920 --> 00:26:56,640
Speaker 1: that she was. So Well, I'm actually gonna do something

439
00:26:56,640 --> 00:26:59,760
Speaker 1: this week. I'm gonna go We're gonna go after her record.

440
00:26:59,800 --> 00:27:02,119
Speaker 1: We're gonna we're gonna give you a little lesson on

441
00:27:02,160 --> 00:27:04,520
Speaker 1: Elizabeth Warren this week at some point. All right, I'll

442
00:27:04,520 --> 00:27:09,040
Speaker 1: get to that. Robbie is in Dallas. Robbie, Hi, how

443
00:27:09,080 --> 00:27:13,120
Speaker 1: are you glad you called? Thank you? Sir? Uh John,

444
00:27:13,200 --> 00:27:15,119
Speaker 1: I just wanted that I'm a World War Two that

445
00:27:15,800 --> 00:27:18,400
Speaker 1: and I just wanted to let you know that I'm

446
00:27:18,440 --> 00:27:21,280
Speaker 1: a member of a lot of Later an organizations share

447
00:27:21,280 --> 00:27:27,640
Speaker 1: in Dallas and that we really support Trump. I'm glad

448
00:27:27,640 --> 00:27:29,440
Speaker 1: to hear. You know, my father fought four years in

449
00:27:29,480 --> 00:27:33,440
Speaker 1: the Pacific, but I served in the Pacific, and then

450
00:27:33,480 --> 00:27:36,440
Speaker 1: I had three brothers that served in World War Two.

451
00:27:36,840 --> 00:27:41,199
Speaker 1: They served in Europe. Yeah, my sister gave me on

452
00:27:41,359 --> 00:27:46,159
Speaker 1: Father's Day a big poster framed of the ship that

453
00:27:46,240 --> 00:27:48,040
Speaker 1: my father served in in World War Two. I was

454
00:27:48,080 --> 00:27:51,639
Speaker 1: really glad to get it. Well. Good, Uh, I have

455
00:27:51,720 --> 00:27:54,760
Speaker 1: a good friend, it, don't you. It's certainly it certainly

456
00:27:54,800 --> 00:27:56,800
Speaker 1: beats when she gives me ties that I don't like

457
00:27:56,880 --> 00:28:00,800
Speaker 1: her shirts that I'll never wear. That a joke inside

458
00:28:00,800 --> 00:28:04,879
Speaker 1: family joke. Anyway, go ahead, Well, oh, well, I just

459
00:28:05,440 --> 00:28:08,240
Speaker 1: wanted you, wanted you to know they have strongly we

460
00:28:08,720 --> 00:28:12,040
Speaker 1: do that support Trump. Of course, there's a lot of

461
00:28:12,080 --> 00:28:14,080
Speaker 1: other things we do, and I want to thank you

462
00:28:14,160 --> 00:28:17,440
Speaker 1: for supporting to that. Well, listen, I want to thank you.

463
00:28:17,440 --> 00:28:23,080
Speaker 1: You're the ones that went and fought and defeated fascism, Nazism,

464
00:28:23,119 --> 00:28:28,320
Speaker 1: imperial Japan. I think referring to as the greatest generation

465
00:28:28,480 --> 00:28:31,679
Speaker 1: is true, and I think that, uh, you know, if

466
00:28:31,720 --> 00:28:33,560
Speaker 1: I can only be half the man my father was,

467
00:28:33,640 --> 00:28:39,040
Speaker 1: I would be a much better person. So well, we

468
00:28:39,040 --> 00:28:41,800
Speaker 1: we have a lot of veterans organizations here we really

469
00:28:41,840 --> 00:28:45,400
Speaker 1: strub support Trump, and uh, I just wanted to be

470
00:28:45,480 --> 00:28:47,960
Speaker 1: sure and get that across to you. Well, I appreciate

471
00:28:48,000 --> 00:28:50,600
Speaker 1: your service to your country. We'd live free because of you,

472
00:28:50,680 --> 00:28:52,560
Speaker 1: and and God bless you. And tell all the guys

473
00:28:52,600 --> 00:28:55,640
Speaker 1: I said, Hi, all right, yes, sir, all right, thank you,

474
00:28:56,240 --> 00:28:59,840
Speaker 1: we're a nice guy. You know those Listen, my father's

475
00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:02,880
Speaker 1: end up as soon as he turned eight, team boom.

476
00:29:03,000 --> 00:29:06,160
Speaker 1: I mean that's the way it worked back then. And uh,

477
00:29:06,240 --> 00:29:09,680
Speaker 1: let's get to Steve and Fayetteville, North Carolina. What's up, Steve?

478
00:29:09,720 --> 00:29:14,520
Speaker 1: How are you Andy? Thank you for taking my call. Yes, sir. Uh,

479
00:29:14,600 --> 00:29:16,600
Speaker 1: First of all, I just wanted to say, um, I

480
00:29:16,680 --> 00:29:19,440
Speaker 1: was just wondering because I'm not sure about Mrs Clinton's

481
00:29:19,440 --> 00:29:25,520
Speaker 1: security clearance. For I understand is if you're on her investigation,

482
00:29:25,600 --> 00:29:29,880
Speaker 1: your security clearance should be suspended if she If look

483
00:29:30,160 --> 00:29:35,080
Speaker 1: just based on what we know, the average government worker

484
00:29:35,760 --> 00:29:38,800
Speaker 1: would have had their security clearance revoked and they would

485
00:29:38,800 --> 00:29:42,480
Speaker 1: have lost their job. Right. But okay, so if she's

486
00:29:42,560 --> 00:29:47,600
Speaker 1: under investigation, and say she does win the presidency, how

487
00:29:47,600 --> 00:29:49,520
Speaker 1: would she be able to be commander in chief if

488
00:29:49,560 --> 00:29:52,120
Speaker 1: she doesn't, if for security cleans has been suspended it

489
00:29:52,200 --> 00:29:54,720
Speaker 1: or revoked. Oh, it's not suspended, it's not revoked. It's

490
00:29:54,720 --> 00:29:58,240
Speaker 1: an ongoing investigation. But based on what we know, you're

491
00:29:58,280 --> 00:30:02,000
Speaker 1: not allowed to mishandle classified information. And it was totally

492
00:30:02,040 --> 00:30:06,360
Speaker 1: and completely mishandled, and it was done so purposefully to

493
00:30:06,440 --> 00:30:10,680
Speaker 1: avoid any congressional oversight into what she was doing. And

494
00:30:10,760 --> 00:30:13,360
Speaker 1: it was done by design because the Clintons, you know,

495
00:30:13,520 --> 00:30:15,680
Speaker 1: that's the way they operate. And you're gonna hear a

496
00:30:15,680 --> 00:30:18,000
Speaker 1: lot more about this in the next hour with Gary Byrne,

497
00:30:18,040 --> 00:30:20,480
Speaker 1: who wrote the book Crisis of Character. He was outside

498
00:30:20,480 --> 00:30:23,200
Speaker 1: of the Oval Office for years when Bill Clinton was president.

499
00:30:23,600 --> 00:30:27,360
Speaker 1: He saw everything. I'm sorry, I just won't say. I thought,

500
00:30:27,400 --> 00:30:31,040
Speaker 1: once you were an under under the stigation, you're secirit

501
00:30:31,160 --> 00:30:35,480
Speaker 1: Charnce Whitney suspending until you were found guilty or innocence. Well,

502
00:30:36,120 --> 00:30:39,440
Speaker 1: I wish James Coley would get this investigation done soon.

503
00:30:40,320 --> 00:30:43,360
Speaker 1: Shure seems to be taken a long time, and I

504
00:30:43,400 --> 00:30:46,320
Speaker 1: think a lot of people are rightly speculating, well, what happens.

505
00:30:46,600 --> 00:30:50,760
Speaker 1: Uh if he announces this in September, the Democrats gonna

506
00:30:50,760 --> 00:31:00,760
Speaker 1: have an opportunity to replace her cat is chucking out

507
00:31:00,760 --> 00:31:05,160
Speaker 1: of my throat was fierce and chilling. Shekarned a little

508
00:31:05,200 --> 00:31:08,200
Speaker 1: hill in front of everybody, and anybody that stood up

509
00:31:08,200 --> 00:31:11,920
Speaker 1: and trying to stray to that idea smash there and

510
00:31:12,800 --> 00:31:17,080
Speaker 1: a little very personally. Did you ever throw a lamb

511
00:31:17,080 --> 00:31:19,200
Speaker 1: at trasment? No? I did? Did you ever throw of

512
00:31:19,200 --> 00:31:22,240
Speaker 1: five electras? No? I didn't. Do you have a terrible temper? No?

513
00:31:22,520 --> 00:31:24,440
Speaker 1: But I do get angry about things. I'm not going

514
00:31:24,480 --> 00:31:27,600
Speaker 1: to deny that. If you go to the end of

515
00:31:27,600 --> 00:31:30,200
Speaker 1: the line. Why don't you go to the end of

516
00:31:30,240 --> 00:31:33,640
Speaker 1: the line of the fact is we had four dead Americans?

517
00:31:33,680 --> 00:31:35,720
Speaker 1: Was it because of a protest? Or was it because

518
00:31:35,720 --> 00:31:37,560
Speaker 1: of guys out for a walk one night who decided

519
00:31:37,600 --> 00:31:41,080
Speaker 1: to go kill some Americans? What difference? At this point?

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00:31:41,160 --> 00:31:43,080
Speaker 1: Does it make you want me to tell you what

521
00:31:43,120 --> 00:31:46,760
Speaker 1: my husband thinks? My husband is not the secretary of State.

522
00:31:46,800 --> 00:31:53,320
Speaker 1: I am. So you asked my opinion. I will tell

523
00:31:53,320 --> 00:31:56,320
Speaker 1: you my opinion. I'm not going to be channeling my husband.

524
00:31:56,440 --> 00:32:01,960
Speaker 1: This woman, this little little soft spoken pardon me for

525
00:32:02,040 --> 00:32:08,160
Speaker 1: the phrase, dowdy woman that was seemed very unasserted, took

526
00:32:08,200 --> 00:32:10,880
Speaker 1: a hold of my hand and squeezed it and said,

527
00:32:10,920 --> 00:32:15,840
Speaker 1: do you understand everything that you do? I could have

528
00:32:17,000 --> 00:32:20,200
Speaker 1: passed out at that moment. And she held onto my

529
00:32:20,360 --> 00:32:25,040
Speaker 1: hand and she said, do you understand everything that you do?

530
00:32:25,080 --> 00:32:27,480
Speaker 1: I mean cold chills went in my spine. That's the

531
00:32:27,560 --> 00:32:32,600
Speaker 1: first time I became afraid of that woman had sent

532
00:32:33,000 --> 00:32:43,480
Speaker 1: the standers stand being flying about that. I am sick

533
00:32:43,560 --> 00:32:46,640
Speaker 1: and tired of people who say that if you debate

534
00:32:46,840 --> 00:32:51,040
Speaker 1: and you disagree with this administration, somehow you're not patriotic

535
00:32:51,080 --> 00:32:53,880
Speaker 1: and we should stand up and say we are America,

536
00:32:54,000 --> 00:32:56,520
Speaker 1: that we have a right to debate that disagreed with

537
00:32:56,720 --> 00:33:03,959
Speaker 1: that administration. I did not have sexual relations with that woman.

538
00:33:04,360 --> 00:33:08,160
Speaker 1: I never told anybody to lie, not a single time. Now,

539
00:33:08,160 --> 00:33:10,960
Speaker 1: don't you someday want to see a woman president of

540
00:33:11,160 --> 00:33:16,400
Speaker 1: United States of America. It depends upon what the meaning

541
00:33:16,440 --> 00:33:21,000
Speaker 1: of the word is. I'm just chilling in cedar rapids.

542
00:33:22,520 --> 00:33:24,800
Speaker 1: All right, there you have it. You heard the voices

543
00:33:24,840 --> 00:33:28,240
Speaker 1: of George Stephanopolis, ded Myers, wanted to Roderick, and then

544
00:33:28,280 --> 00:33:31,520
Speaker 1: of course the vicious temper of the person that would

545
00:33:31,560 --> 00:33:34,880
Speaker 1: like to be your next president, Hillary Rodham Clinton. Now,

546
00:33:34,920 --> 00:33:37,120
Speaker 1: this is the book that everybody's been talking about his

547
00:33:37,200 --> 00:33:40,480
Speaker 1: first interview. It's called a crisis of character. A White

548
00:33:40,520 --> 00:33:44,479
Speaker 1: House Secret Service officer discloses his first hand experience with

549
00:33:44,560 --> 00:33:48,200
Speaker 1: Hillary Bill and how they operate. Let me go to

550
00:33:48,240 --> 00:33:51,720
Speaker 1: the introduction. I dreamed of becoming an elite White House

551
00:33:51,720 --> 00:33:55,640
Speaker 1: Secret Service officer, a member of its uniform division, nothing

552
00:33:55,680 --> 00:33:58,760
Speaker 1: more than, certainly nothing less. My dream came true. I

553
00:33:58,800 --> 00:34:02,719
Speaker 1: stood guard a pistol up my hip outside the Oval Office,

554
00:34:02,760 --> 00:34:06,520
Speaker 1: the last barrier before anyone saw Bill Clinton, the last

555
00:34:06,600 --> 00:34:10,719
Speaker 1: barrier before Monica Lewinsky saw Bill Clinton. Yes, I am

556
00:34:10,840 --> 00:34:14,839
Speaker 1: that Secret Service officer. I saw Monica, and I saw

557
00:34:14,880 --> 00:34:19,120
Speaker 1: a lot more. I saw Hillary too. I witnessed her obscenity,

558
00:34:19,239 --> 00:34:22,920
Speaker 1: lace tirades, or shifting of blame. How she berated Vince

559
00:34:22,960 --> 00:34:26,760
Speaker 1: Foster until he could stand no more, and how minor

560
00:34:26,800 --> 00:34:31,480
Speaker 1: incidents involving blue gloves and botched invitations sent her into

561
00:34:31,600 --> 00:34:36,560
Speaker 1: a tizzy and much more. Uh. We welcome to the program.

562
00:34:36,600 --> 00:34:40,239
Speaker 1: Former Presidential Secret Service officer Gary Burners with us. How

563
00:34:40,239 --> 00:34:42,319
Speaker 1: are you? I'm fine? Thank you so much for having me.

564
00:34:42,360 --> 00:34:46,440
Speaker 1: You ready for the media onslaught, left wing media onslaught

565
00:34:46,440 --> 00:34:48,040
Speaker 1: that has certainly come in your way. I spent the

566
00:34:48,080 --> 00:34:50,959
Speaker 1: whole weekend reading the book. I have no doubt when

567
00:34:51,000 --> 00:34:53,520
Speaker 1: you go on your media tour it's gonna be vicious.

568
00:34:53,640 --> 00:34:56,040
Speaker 1: You're gonna be put on trial. You ready, yes, I

569
00:34:56,080 --> 00:34:58,879
Speaker 1: think so. I've experienced a little bit before when this

570
00:34:58,880 --> 00:35:01,600
Speaker 1: first happened, when the story broke, So, um, I have

571
00:35:01,600 --> 00:35:03,280
Speaker 1: a little bit of experience with it. But I'm ready.

572
00:35:03,320 --> 00:35:06,200
Speaker 1: I've got my ducks in a row as we say, yeah, well,

573
00:35:06,280 --> 00:35:09,640
Speaker 1: you know you're telling your story, and why don't we

574
00:35:09,680 --> 00:35:11,920
Speaker 1: go to the heart before we even get started into

575
00:35:11,920 --> 00:35:14,040
Speaker 1: the facts of the story. Why do you think this

576
00:35:14,120 --> 00:35:17,640
Speaker 1: is important? You go? You do explain it especially and

577
00:35:17,680 --> 00:35:19,280
Speaker 1: I'll jump to the end of the book a little

578
00:35:19,280 --> 00:35:22,440
Speaker 1: bit here. Um, because this is so important to you,

579
00:35:22,480 --> 00:35:25,879
Speaker 1: actually go into great detail that you know you had

580
00:35:25,880 --> 00:35:30,440
Speaker 1: the answer the same question now that you answered. You

581
00:35:30,480 --> 00:35:34,000
Speaker 1: were asked to go before Ken Starr and what am

582
00:35:34,040 --> 00:35:36,400
Speaker 1: I gonna do about it? And you knew the answer

583
00:35:36,960 --> 00:35:39,800
Speaker 1: and that you have to speak up? Why? Yes? Well

584
00:35:40,239 --> 00:35:43,799
Speaker 1: it at that time when I was being investigated by

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00:35:43,880 --> 00:35:47,600
Speaker 1: Judge Starr was my fear was that if I didn't

586
00:35:47,640 --> 00:35:51,440
Speaker 1: tell the truth once I had to testify, that they

587
00:35:51,440 --> 00:35:53,600
Speaker 1: would jail me. And they told me they did, I mean,

588
00:35:53,920 --> 00:35:55,800
Speaker 1: if you were facing seven years in jail off he

589
00:35:55,840 --> 00:35:58,239
Speaker 1: didn't tell the truth at least. Yeah, And and a

590
00:35:58,239 --> 00:36:01,560
Speaker 1: couple of times FBI agents involved the investigation actually threatened

591
00:36:01,560 --> 00:36:06,560
Speaker 1: to arrest me. Um I uh, I came to this conclusion, Sean,

592
00:36:07,120 --> 00:36:12,799
Speaker 1: that telling the truth is important protect the Constitution and

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00:36:13,080 --> 00:36:14,960
Speaker 1: the oath that I took to the President of the

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00:36:15,000 --> 00:36:18,200
Speaker 1: United States and the Constitution, and that one man does

595
00:36:18,239 --> 00:36:23,160
Speaker 1: not supersede that all this happened because one man couldn't

596
00:36:23,160 --> 00:36:25,880
Speaker 1: step up. The man that was the president United States

597
00:36:26,040 --> 00:36:28,200
Speaker 1: at the time couldn't step up and be a man

598
00:36:28,320 --> 00:36:30,360
Speaker 1: and say what he did, and it all would have

599
00:36:30,360 --> 00:36:34,279
Speaker 1: been over. You sign no confidentiality agreement, so you have

600
00:36:34,360 --> 00:36:37,200
Speaker 1: every right to write this book that's correct. And the

601
00:36:37,239 --> 00:36:40,040
Speaker 1: reasoning I'm coming out now is called I want everybody

602
00:36:40,040 --> 00:36:41,920
Speaker 1: to know the truth. I want them to know how

603
00:36:41,960 --> 00:36:44,480
Speaker 1: these people function, and I want them to know about

604
00:36:44,480 --> 00:36:48,280
Speaker 1: the wake of destruction of people that they leave behind them.

605
00:36:48,280 --> 00:36:51,920
Speaker 1: This is the truth. Um, you know, I doubt I

606
00:36:51,960 --> 00:36:54,279
Speaker 1: don't know if I'm going to convince anybody how they're

607
00:36:54,280 --> 00:36:56,880
Speaker 1: going to vote. The most important thing about voting is

608
00:36:57,000 --> 00:36:59,319
Speaker 1: as soon as you become eight team register and vote,

609
00:36:59,400 --> 00:37:02,480
Speaker 1: vote your con and and get educated on it. And

610
00:37:02,520 --> 00:37:05,399
Speaker 1: I hope this my book, my true life story here

611
00:37:05,400 --> 00:37:09,680
Speaker 1: helps people, UM, young people especially understand really how they work.

612
00:37:10,160 --> 00:37:11,880
Speaker 1: At the end of the book, you said, what I

613
00:37:11,960 --> 00:37:14,920
Speaker 1: learned about the Clinton's first hand, the hard way is

614
00:37:15,040 --> 00:37:17,839
Speaker 1: very important. It's twenty sixteen, but with Hillary Clinton running

615
00:37:17,880 --> 00:37:21,880
Speaker 1: for president again, it feels uncomfortable like the nineteen nineties again,

616
00:37:22,239 --> 00:37:26,160
Speaker 1: as if America were trapped in some great cruel time machine,

617
00:37:26,680 --> 00:37:29,080
Speaker 1: uh literally hurling us back to the land of Monica

618
00:37:29,120 --> 00:37:32,840
Speaker 1: and Mogadishu and a thousand other Clinton era nightmares. Fool

619
00:37:32,880 --> 00:37:36,080
Speaker 1: me once, as the saying goes, your fault, fool me twice.

620
00:37:36,160 --> 00:37:38,640
Speaker 1: The bottom line, you go on to say, my job

621
00:37:38,680 --> 00:37:40,680
Speaker 1: in the nineties was to lay down my life for

622
00:37:40,760 --> 00:37:44,200
Speaker 1: the president. My obligation today is to raise my voice

623
00:37:44,239 --> 00:37:47,920
Speaker 1: to help safeguard the presidency from Bill and Hillary Clinton,

624
00:37:48,360 --> 00:37:51,120
Speaker 1: and to remind readers like you what happened back then.

625
00:37:51,560 --> 00:37:54,680
Speaker 1: We all remember, or should remember, what a Clinton White

626
00:37:54,719 --> 00:37:57,319
Speaker 1: House was like. If we board that time machine for

627
00:37:57,360 --> 00:38:01,200
Speaker 1: a return trip, it's our fault, yes, and that's true.

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00:38:01,640 --> 00:38:04,560
Speaker 1: I um. As we go on in the interview, I'm

629
00:38:04,600 --> 00:38:07,440
Speaker 1: gonna be able to um expand a little bit more.

630
00:38:07,520 --> 00:38:11,600
Speaker 1: But there's there's so many examples of of UM. For instance,

631
00:38:11,719 --> 00:38:14,319
Speaker 1: UM routinely in the very beginning in the early nine

632
00:38:14,400 --> 00:38:17,280
Speaker 1: is Mrs Clinton uses the term the right wing conspiracy.

633
00:38:17,520 --> 00:38:19,839
Speaker 1: There's no such thing. It's not the right wing conspiracy.

634
00:38:19,920 --> 00:38:23,319
Speaker 1: It's continuous bad behavior and bad decisions. And even when

635
00:38:23,320 --> 00:38:26,240
Speaker 1: they do to do try to do some kind of policy,

636
00:38:26,400 --> 00:38:29,399
Speaker 1: something maybe good for the country, it completely falls apart

637
00:38:29,440 --> 00:38:31,880
Speaker 1: because there's so many scandals going on, they can't focus

638
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Speaker 1: on running the country. I mean, I've used this analogy before, Sean.

639
00:38:36,440 --> 00:38:38,719
Speaker 1: If you took every scandal that President Bill Clinton was

640
00:38:38,760 --> 00:38:41,840
Speaker 1: involved in and put it on UM single spaces, you

641
00:38:41,880 --> 00:38:44,520
Speaker 1: couldn't fit it on two pieces of paper. It's incredible.

642
00:38:44,719 --> 00:38:50,160
Speaker 1: You describe her leadership style as volcanic, volcanic impulsive, enabled

643
00:38:50,160 --> 00:38:53,640
Speaker 1: by sycophantse disdainful of the rules set for everyone else

644
00:38:53,880 --> 00:38:59,360
Speaker 1: who hasn't changed a bit. I is true. I never understood.

645
00:38:59,480 --> 00:39:01,880
Speaker 1: It didn't take long to figure out how they worked

646
00:39:01,880 --> 00:39:04,520
Speaker 1: and how they acted. And you know, at the time, UM,

647
00:39:04,560 --> 00:39:06,560
Speaker 1: I was a member of the Secret Service Uniform Division,

648
00:39:06,560 --> 00:39:08,239
Speaker 1: and I just you know, watch what went on, and

649
00:39:08,280 --> 00:39:10,680
Speaker 1: I observed the way people acted around her and her

650
00:39:10,760 --> 00:39:13,399
Speaker 1: co workers, these people that we referred to back then

651
00:39:13,440 --> 00:39:17,200
Speaker 1: as the Arkansas Mafia friends from Arkansas. UM, they were

652
00:39:17,239 --> 00:39:19,680
Speaker 1: afraid of her. They were terrified and at first like,

653
00:39:19,800 --> 00:39:22,160
Speaker 1: I don't understand that. And by this time I had

654
00:39:22,200 --> 00:39:24,960
Speaker 1: I had been close to her proximity wise, when I

655
00:39:24,960 --> 00:39:27,000
Speaker 1: saw her lash out at somebody, and to me it

656
00:39:27,040 --> 00:39:29,120
Speaker 1: was almost comical. I was like, God, I've never seen

657
00:39:29,120 --> 00:39:33,480
Speaker 1: anybody so upset over something so simple, and her her

658
00:39:33,520 --> 00:39:37,000
Speaker 1: anger and rage isn't fixing anything. It never does it never.

659
00:39:37,480 --> 00:39:41,200
Speaker 1: I don't think anger or rage works for anybody. You said,

660
00:39:41,200 --> 00:39:45,239
Speaker 1: though portrayed as the long suffering spouse of an unfaithful

661
00:39:45,320 --> 00:39:49,480
Speaker 1: husband whose infidelities I personally observed and new to be true,

662
00:39:49,920 --> 00:39:54,200
Speaker 1: the Hillary Clinton I saw was anything but a sympathetic victim. Now,

663
00:39:54,239 --> 00:39:57,440
Speaker 1: those loyal to her kept coming back for these volcanic

664
00:39:57,680 --> 00:40:02,400
Speaker 1: eruptions of hers. Witness first hand Clinton's personal and professional dysfunction.

665
00:40:03,000 --> 00:40:06,560
Speaker 1: So consumed were they by scandals, so intent on destroying

666
00:40:06,600 --> 00:40:10,200
Speaker 1: their real or imagined enemies, governing was an afterthought, was

667
00:40:10,600 --> 00:40:12,960
Speaker 1: why don't you go into describing this temper that you're

668
00:40:12,960 --> 00:40:17,480
Speaker 1: describing so um. There's many examples of that. Um, the

669
00:40:17,520 --> 00:40:20,360
Speaker 1: one that I always comes to mind is um I

670
00:40:20,400 --> 00:40:23,799
Speaker 1: refer to as the blue Glove incident. And um, so

671
00:40:24,160 --> 00:40:26,040
Speaker 1: what what happened is is that a group of people

672
00:40:26,040 --> 00:40:28,920
Speaker 1: were coming in to visit with the President and his

673
00:40:29,000 --> 00:40:31,560
Speaker 1: senior staff. And you said he was very charming to people.

674
00:40:31,560 --> 00:40:33,359
Speaker 1: He would always want to give them extra time. He

675
00:40:33,400 --> 00:40:39,200
Speaker 1: was always accommodating to anybody that came by. Yes he could. Um,

676
00:40:39,360 --> 00:40:42,360
Speaker 1: he was incredibly charming. Um. I actually had the opportunity

677
00:40:42,360 --> 00:40:44,960
Speaker 1: to introduce some family members to him one time, and

678
00:40:45,000 --> 00:40:47,839
Speaker 1: my my father for five minutes couldn't open his mouth.

679
00:40:48,120 --> 00:40:50,600
Speaker 1: I mean, it was just incredible. And um so, anyway,

680
00:40:51,200 --> 00:40:54,479
Speaker 1: Mrs Clinton's anger at this time, these visitors were coming

681
00:40:54,480 --> 00:40:57,800
Speaker 1: in and through a series of errors with the Uniform Division,

682
00:40:58,200 --> 00:41:00,279
Speaker 1: as these guests were coming in, there was there was

683
00:41:00,320 --> 00:41:04,000
Speaker 1: about thirty to forty I think guests, and they were

684
00:41:04,320 --> 00:41:08,640
Speaker 1: representative members of the gang and lesbian coalition that helped

685
00:41:08,640 --> 00:41:12,200
Speaker 1: get President Cutting elected elected the first time. And so

686
00:41:12,480 --> 00:41:17,680
Speaker 1: um under the promise that he would immediately allow gays

687
00:41:17,680 --> 00:41:20,040
Speaker 1: in the military, and things were different back then, as

688
00:41:20,040 --> 00:41:21,799
Speaker 1: you well remember, I'm sure you know. And then it

689
00:41:21,800 --> 00:41:24,520
Speaker 1: became a compromise that don't asked right, and they were

690
00:41:24,560 --> 00:41:27,239
Speaker 1: furious about that. So the so the person bringing them

691
00:41:27,280 --> 00:41:31,200
Speaker 1: in was former Congressman Barney Frank. So I'm actually posted

692
00:41:31,200 --> 00:41:33,319
Speaker 1: at the overall Oval office and I get a phone

693
00:41:33,360 --> 00:41:35,400
Speaker 1: call from a friend of mine and he described to me.

694
00:41:35,600 --> 00:41:38,000
Speaker 1: He said, heads up, we just had an incident. And

695
00:41:38,000 --> 00:41:39,640
Speaker 1: and what he described to me was as the guests

696
00:41:39,640 --> 00:41:42,360
Speaker 1: were coming in, UM, the officers that were running the

697
00:41:42,400 --> 00:41:44,319
Speaker 1: MEDL detectors, they were putting all these blue gloves that

698
00:41:44,320 --> 00:41:46,920
Speaker 1: were required to wear. When Barne Barney Franks all them

699
00:41:46,920 --> 00:41:48,920
Speaker 1: putting the gloves on, he said, why are you putting

700
00:41:48,920 --> 00:41:52,640
Speaker 1: those gloves on? Officer? And the one guy, um I

701
00:41:52,719 --> 00:41:54,440
Speaker 1: referred to him in the book is crusty. He's this

702
00:41:54,680 --> 00:41:58,800
Speaker 1: great old marine from Vietnam era. Um he put the

703
00:41:58,800 --> 00:42:00,440
Speaker 1: gloves on. He looked the Congress right in the eye

704
00:42:00,440 --> 00:42:02,799
Speaker 1: and goes, why do you think. What Barney Frank didn't

705
00:42:02,800 --> 00:42:04,880
Speaker 1: know was the list that we had of who was

706
00:42:04,920 --> 00:42:08,720
Speaker 1: coming in. It actually said on the top HIV positive representatives.

707
00:42:08,760 --> 00:42:11,280
Speaker 1: Now that we all knew that you can't get HIV

708
00:42:11,640 --> 00:42:13,720
Speaker 1: that way, but we still have to wear the gloves

709
00:42:13,760 --> 00:42:18,640
Speaker 1: because we're protecting ourselves some other stuff. So it was

710
00:42:18,760 --> 00:42:22,920
Speaker 1: absolutely so um. When they got in, they took advantage

711
00:42:22,960 --> 00:42:25,640
Speaker 1: of what happened there and they berated the staff, and

712
00:42:25,680 --> 00:42:27,839
Speaker 1: it got up to Mrs Clinton and she went off

713
00:42:27,840 --> 00:42:30,160
Speaker 1: the deep end. And I described it in the book.

714
00:42:30,239 --> 00:42:31,680
Speaker 1: Is on a scale of one to ten, this was

715
00:42:31,719 --> 00:42:34,160
Speaker 1: about a one, considering what goes on around the world

716
00:42:34,600 --> 00:42:37,960
Speaker 1: and what the presidency is responsible for. She so, I

717
00:42:38,000 --> 00:42:40,120
Speaker 1: get a heads up phone call from an officer on

718
00:42:40,200 --> 00:42:42,040
Speaker 1: the east side of the White House said, heads up,

719
00:42:42,080 --> 00:42:45,440
Speaker 1: here comes Mrs Clinton, and she's mad so um. She

720
00:42:45,480 --> 00:42:47,640
Speaker 1: came over, she went into the Oval Office and she

721
00:42:47,719 --> 00:42:50,680
Speaker 1: berated the President for about forty minutes. It's so loud

722
00:42:50,719 --> 00:42:53,279
Speaker 1: that the agent and I that were posted outside the

723
00:42:53,320 --> 00:42:57,640
Speaker 1: Oval Office um actually closed a doorway that blocked off

724
00:42:57,680 --> 00:43:01,000
Speaker 1: the Roosevelt Room and some mounter hallways because she was

725
00:43:01,040 --> 00:43:03,920
Speaker 1: so loud, and she she berated the president. She blamed

726
00:43:03,960 --> 00:43:07,960
Speaker 1: everything on us. She called us a bunch of um. Yeah,

727
00:43:08,120 --> 00:43:09,759
Speaker 1: don't worry, you can't say it. I'm radio. I know

728
00:43:09,760 --> 00:43:11,680
Speaker 1: what you're gonna say. She's caught us a bunch of

729
00:43:11,680 --> 00:43:15,760
Speaker 1: rear ends and and and used a lot of foul language,

730
00:43:15,920 --> 00:43:18,640
Speaker 1: and it was. It got so bad that at one

731
00:43:18,680 --> 00:43:21,439
Speaker 1: point the agent looked at me and realized she said,

732
00:43:21,840 --> 00:43:24,080
Speaker 1: the president is actually defending you guys, And it was

733
00:43:24,120 --> 00:43:25,919
Speaker 1: kind of a comical moment. I'm like, oh, my god,

734
00:43:26,200 --> 00:43:28,360
Speaker 1: the President's defending She wanted to get rid of you

735
00:43:28,400 --> 00:43:31,279
Speaker 1: because she said, Oh, they're loyal to George Herbert Walker Bush.

736
00:43:31,320 --> 00:43:33,359
Speaker 1: They were here with him, and they're disloyal to us.

737
00:43:33,360 --> 00:43:35,440
Speaker 1: They have been from day one. Sure, they did have

738
00:43:35,480 --> 00:43:39,360
Speaker 1: a weird paranoia about the Bush administration. They actually replaced

739
00:43:39,360 --> 00:43:41,320
Speaker 1: the phone system because they thought they had a tapped

740
00:43:41,480 --> 00:43:43,880
Speaker 1: almost the brand new phone system when they first got there,

741
00:43:43,880 --> 00:43:45,799
Speaker 1: and it was expensive and they didn't have a way

742
00:43:45,840 --> 00:43:48,080
Speaker 1: to pay for it at first. Yeah, well, you talk

743
00:43:48,160 --> 00:43:51,120
Speaker 1: at length to how they became, you know, spending a

744
00:43:51,120 --> 00:43:53,359
Speaker 1: lot of money was a big issue, and you had

745
00:43:53,400 --> 00:43:55,879
Speaker 1: to draw straws to give her the bad news. Tell

746
00:43:55,960 --> 00:44:00,799
Speaker 1: us about you start chapter one the vase. Yes. So, Um,

747
00:44:00,840 --> 00:44:02,799
Speaker 1: I come in to work one morning. I'm assigned to

748
00:44:02,840 --> 00:44:05,399
Speaker 1: the Oval office, that's my permanent post at the time,

749
00:44:05,760 --> 00:44:07,359
Speaker 1: and I come in earlier, I get my work out

750
00:44:07,360 --> 00:44:10,400
Speaker 1: in and as I'm heading over, I run into a

751
00:44:10,400 --> 00:44:13,280
Speaker 1: couple of the people that work in the mansion. Um,

752
00:44:13,360 --> 00:44:14,759
Speaker 1: and they said, oh, way do you get in there

753
00:44:14,760 --> 00:44:17,960
Speaker 1: and hear what happened. So I'm like, okay, So um,

754
00:44:18,000 --> 00:44:19,600
Speaker 1: I went over to the mansion and talked to my

755
00:44:19,680 --> 00:44:22,600
Speaker 1: buddy who worked in the on the mansion floor, and

756
00:44:23,440 --> 00:44:26,280
Speaker 1: I said, what's going on? I just saw George and

757
00:44:26,280 --> 00:44:29,640
Speaker 1: and and you know Santo that they said something happened.

758
00:44:29,640 --> 00:44:32,279
Speaker 1: They said, oh, the that the president the first lady

759
00:44:32,320 --> 00:44:35,160
Speaker 1: had had this huge fight last night and it was

760
00:44:35,239 --> 00:44:38,120
Speaker 1: so loud that the people that work in the mansion

761
00:44:38,120 --> 00:44:40,280
Speaker 1: that take care of the First family, like they backed

762
00:44:40,320 --> 00:44:42,640
Speaker 1: away downstairs and it was loud. And then there was

763
00:44:42,800 --> 00:44:45,440
Speaker 1: a loud noise, like a crashing sound. And when it

764
00:44:45,480 --> 00:44:48,520
Speaker 1: was up went up to be investigated. Um, there was

765
00:44:48,560 --> 00:44:50,479
Speaker 1: a broken vase on the floor and you know, nothing

766
00:44:50,480 --> 00:44:52,279
Speaker 1: at the one was across the hall from where it

767
00:44:52,320 --> 00:44:55,200
Speaker 1: was normally placed. It wasn't like it didn't fall over. No,

768
00:44:55,920 --> 00:44:58,759
Speaker 1: it was right, that's that appears to be. And the

769
00:44:58,840 --> 00:45:01,600
Speaker 1: next morning he had a black Yeah, the next time

770
00:45:01,640 --> 00:45:03,400
Speaker 1: I saw him, he had a black eye. You know,

771
00:45:03,600 --> 00:45:06,600
Speaker 1: I don't you know, I wasn't there, so I don't

772
00:45:06,640 --> 00:45:08,480
Speaker 1: know if he hit her, if she hit him, I

773
00:45:08,480 --> 00:45:11,360
Speaker 1: don't know she threw the vase at him, I don't know.

774
00:45:11,400 --> 00:45:13,160
Speaker 1: How he got the black eye. But I'm gonna tell

775
00:45:13,160 --> 00:45:15,080
Speaker 1: you this, the gardener didn't give it to him. Nobody

776
00:45:15,120 --> 00:45:17,839
Speaker 1: in the Secret Service hit him. And so when he

777
00:45:17,880 --> 00:45:20,160
Speaker 1: came down that that next morning, you know, you could

778
00:45:20,160 --> 00:45:22,480
Speaker 1: see they were trying to hide a black mark with

779
00:45:22,600 --> 00:45:25,000
Speaker 1: makeup and stuff, and right, it didn't it didn't work.

780
00:45:25,040 --> 00:45:27,320
Speaker 1: And you even asked, oh, and they said it's allergies,

781
00:45:27,360 --> 00:45:31,920
Speaker 1: and it was allergies and one eye on two and yeah, exactly.

782
00:45:32,120 --> 00:45:34,560
Speaker 1: We uh were joined by Gary Byrne. We have a

783
00:45:34,560 --> 00:45:36,600
Speaker 1: lot of time, another hour with Gary. He's gonna stay

784
00:45:36,640 --> 00:45:38,960
Speaker 1: with us. His brand new book. It's making a lot

785
00:45:38,960 --> 00:45:41,880
Speaker 1: of headlines. This first interview. It's called a Crisis of Character.

786
00:45:42,280 --> 00:45:46,080
Speaker 1: A White House Secret Service officer discloses his firsthand experience

787
00:45:46,120 --> 00:45:48,680
Speaker 1: with Hillary Bill and how they operate. You can get

788
00:45:48,680 --> 00:45:50,360
Speaker 1: the book at Amazon dot com. We have it on

789
00:45:50,360 --> 00:45:53,920
Speaker 1: our website, Hannity dot com and also in bookstores everywhere.

790
00:45:53,960 --> 00:45:56,840
Speaker 1: Starting tomorrow we continue. We're joined in studio today. His

791
00:45:56,920 --> 00:45:59,439
Speaker 1: first interview, Gary Burned. He has a brand new book

792
00:45:59,440 --> 00:46:02,640
Speaker 1: at Scott and a lot of press. A Crisis of Character,

793
00:46:03,080 --> 00:46:06,160
Speaker 1: a White House Secret Service officer disclose his firsthand his

794
00:46:06,280 --> 00:46:10,680
Speaker 1: experience with Hillary Bill and how they operate. In your introduction,

795
00:46:11,080 --> 00:46:17,680
Speaker 1: you refer to witnessing how Hillary berated Vince Foster until

796
00:46:17,760 --> 00:46:20,799
Speaker 1: he could stand no more, and you go into more

797
00:46:20,840 --> 00:46:23,560
Speaker 1: detail in the book. And you mostly saw Vince Foster

798
00:46:23,680 --> 00:46:26,400
Speaker 1: in the hallways, and and he and Mrs Clinton and

799
00:46:26,440 --> 00:46:30,120
Speaker 1: a lawyer, you know, close friends confidence. I guess words

800
00:46:30,160 --> 00:46:33,880
Speaker 1: circulated that she berated him mercilessly. Uh. And the first

801
00:46:33,880 --> 00:46:36,880
Speaker 1: time you saw Foster, you know, you figured he wouldn't

802
00:46:37,040 --> 00:46:40,880
Speaker 1: last a year. He was uncomfortable, unhappy there, and you

803
00:46:40,960 --> 00:46:43,200
Speaker 1: knew what it was like to be yelled at by superiors.

804
00:46:43,200 --> 00:46:46,960
Speaker 1: But Mrs Clinton never hesitated to launch a tirade. And

805
00:46:47,040 --> 00:46:50,120
Speaker 1: yet her staffers never dared say, I don't have to

806
00:46:50,160 --> 00:46:54,440
Speaker 1: take this. We'll say that. They reminded me of battered wives,

807
00:46:54,480 --> 00:46:58,080
Speaker 1: too loyal, too unwilling to acknowledge. They never assuage her,

808
00:46:58,719 --> 00:47:00,880
Speaker 1: and then they had no one to blame but themselves,

809
00:47:01,160 --> 00:47:03,880
Speaker 1: and they could never admit it. Now you really feel

810
00:47:03,960 --> 00:47:07,520
Speaker 1: that this pressed him or pushed him. I think I

811
00:47:07,560 --> 00:47:10,680
Speaker 1: think he came with a lot of baggage. I didn't know.

812
00:47:10,840 --> 00:47:12,720
Speaker 1: I like to be clearing this. It's not like Vincent

813
00:47:12,760 --> 00:47:14,719
Speaker 1: and were friends. I used to see Mr Foster around

814
00:47:14,719 --> 00:47:17,600
Speaker 1: the West thing like I did to everybody else. But um,

815
00:47:17,719 --> 00:47:20,680
Speaker 1: I do know that about him being burrated, and I

816
00:47:20,760 --> 00:47:23,520
Speaker 1: understand he had a high pressure job. But when I

817
00:47:23,560 --> 00:47:26,920
Speaker 1: when I described to you, um, how uncomfortable this this

818
00:47:26,960 --> 00:47:29,200
Speaker 1: man looked, I mean, he didn't look comfortable in his

819
00:47:29,239 --> 00:47:32,360
Speaker 1: own skin. He wanted nothing to do with the Washington

820
00:47:32,440 --> 00:47:35,880
Speaker 1: d C. And the pressure that I brought. And when

821
00:47:36,239 --> 00:47:38,759
Speaker 1: when the story that when I was actually working the

822
00:47:38,840 --> 00:47:40,560
Speaker 1: day he took his own life and they found him

823
00:47:40,560 --> 00:47:44,000
Speaker 1: in Fort Marcy Park, And um, when the message came out,

824
00:47:44,160 --> 00:47:46,080
Speaker 1: I will tell you I was sad that it happened,

825
00:47:46,080 --> 00:47:48,200
Speaker 1: But I was not stunned. I really wasn't, because you

826
00:47:48,239 --> 00:47:51,600
Speaker 1: saw this guy under pressure. She was constantly berating them

827
00:47:51,440 --> 00:47:55,520
Speaker 1: and sure beating him. Sure when when the staff, when

828
00:47:55,520 --> 00:47:58,680
Speaker 1: you hear the staff that worked in the in the

829
00:47:58,680 --> 00:48:01,600
Speaker 1: White House in the West Wing talking about how bad

830
00:48:01,680 --> 00:48:03,840
Speaker 1: she burrated Vince Foster as opposed to how bad she

831
00:48:03,920 --> 00:48:07,280
Speaker 1: braided anybody else, that's pretty significant. And these are things Sean,

832
00:48:07,320 --> 00:48:10,400
Speaker 1: that I swore, you know, years ago, of until recently

833
00:48:10,440 --> 00:48:11,960
Speaker 1: I was I was gonna take all this to my

834
00:48:12,040 --> 00:48:15,239
Speaker 1: grave because I said I would never talk about these things,

835
00:48:15,320 --> 00:48:18,640
Speaker 1: but clearly somewhere and I'm very uncomfortable bout talking about it,

836
00:48:18,680 --> 00:48:21,160
Speaker 1: but it's important for people to know the truth. Somewhere

837
00:48:21,200 --> 00:48:23,120
Speaker 1: in the last year and a half, I've crossed through

838
00:48:23,120 --> 00:48:26,960
Speaker 1: a threshold and I've changed my mind obviously. Um And

839
00:48:26,800 --> 00:48:28,560
Speaker 1: and it is what it is. There's no going back.

840
00:48:28,640 --> 00:48:31,200
Speaker 1: So your purpose is really to warn the American people

841
00:48:31,280 --> 00:48:34,279
Speaker 1: she is not as she seems. In other words, that

842
00:48:34,480 --> 00:48:37,120
Speaker 1: the temperament question has come up a lot in this

843
00:48:37,239 --> 00:48:40,640
Speaker 1: campaign as it relates to Donald Trump. You're describing somebody

844
00:48:40,640 --> 00:48:43,239
Speaker 1: that does not have the temperament to be president in

845
00:48:43,280 --> 00:48:46,440
Speaker 1: any way, shape, matter of form, and that she hides it.

846
00:48:46,960 --> 00:48:50,440
Speaker 1: And she puts on a public persona and a private persona,

847
00:48:51,040 --> 00:48:56,760
Speaker 1: and privately she berrates staff, berrates even secret service officers

848
00:48:56,800 --> 00:49:01,480
Speaker 1: like yourself. Uh says f f off to them, Yes, Uh,

849
00:49:01,600 --> 00:49:04,920
Speaker 1: tells them to go to hell. He tells two specific instances.

850
00:49:05,000 --> 00:49:07,680
Speaker 1: Talk about that. So the one that always bothered me

851
00:49:07,719 --> 00:49:11,480
Speaker 1: the most. And um, So we had a uniform division

852
00:49:11,520 --> 00:49:13,319
Speaker 1: officer who had been on the job a short period

853
00:49:13,360 --> 00:49:16,640
Speaker 1: of time, nice guy, Uh, top of the line type person.

854
00:49:16,719 --> 00:49:18,560
Speaker 1: He had been in the military, and he actually had

855
00:49:18,560 --> 00:49:22,080
Speaker 1: been wounded in Somalia. Now, he was wounded in Somalia

856
00:49:22,160 --> 00:49:24,520
Speaker 1: before what we would call today the black Hawk down

857
00:49:24,880 --> 00:49:27,719
Speaker 1: down right, So he was he was actually shot by

858
00:49:27,760 --> 00:49:31,239
Speaker 1: a sniper and he received the Purple Heart. Now, when

859
00:49:31,239 --> 00:49:33,359
Speaker 1: you're working at the White House in Uniform Division, people

860
00:49:33,400 --> 00:49:35,880
Speaker 1: don't know that you're have been in the military or

861
00:49:35,920 --> 00:49:37,880
Speaker 1: you you have won an award, but they do know

862
00:49:37,920 --> 00:49:40,279
Speaker 1: you're a police officer. You're wearing a uniform like the

863
00:49:40,320 --> 00:49:43,759
Speaker 1: Uniform Division officers do. And he was walking down the

864
00:49:43,760 --> 00:49:46,640
Speaker 1: West Colonnade and he said, good morning, first lady, and

865
00:49:46,880 --> 00:49:50,200
Speaker 1: she looked at him and said, go f yourself. And

866
00:49:50,280 --> 00:49:53,359
Speaker 1: so he couldn't believe it. And when he came back

867
00:49:53,400 --> 00:49:57,520
Speaker 1: to the to the break room and he was discussing

868
00:49:57,520 --> 00:50:00,879
Speaker 1: it and another officer who had something similar happened to him.

869
00:50:01,200 --> 00:50:04,840
Speaker 1: They started discussing it, and Um, the sergeant overheard him,

870
00:50:04,960 --> 00:50:07,520
Speaker 1: and UM started pushing it up the chain of command.

871
00:50:07,560 --> 00:50:09,960
Speaker 1: It's not that it's not that it hadn't happened before.

872
00:50:10,480 --> 00:50:12,680
Speaker 1: It's just that the way it happened with this guy,

873
00:50:13,000 --> 00:50:14,400
Speaker 1: when it got up to the chain to command and

874
00:50:14,600 --> 00:50:16,480
Speaker 1: the senior agents found out who this guy was, they

875
00:50:16,480 --> 00:50:18,359
Speaker 1: felt bad about it. But there but there was a

876
00:50:18,400 --> 00:50:21,400
Speaker 1: phoniness about her. For example, she would she would treat

877
00:50:21,440 --> 00:50:23,959
Speaker 1: you one way when nobody was looking, and she would

878
00:50:23,960 --> 00:50:27,279
Speaker 1: be rate you, and then when guests were around, she'd

879
00:50:27,320 --> 00:50:29,400
Speaker 1: put her hand on your shoulder and say, oh, this

880
00:50:29,480 --> 00:50:32,880
Speaker 1: is my favorite agent. And then, for example, you described

881
00:50:32,920 --> 00:50:35,719
Speaker 1: the relationship with her husband. If the cameras came in,

882
00:50:35,920 --> 00:50:38,120
Speaker 1: oh they were lovey dovey, they were the closest couple

883
00:50:38,120 --> 00:50:40,279
Speaker 1: in the world, But in reality there were anything but

884
00:50:40,600 --> 00:50:44,080
Speaker 1: right that. That's that's what I experienced, That's what I saw. Um.

885
00:50:44,280 --> 00:50:49,280
Speaker 1: I saw a lot of examples of the um going

886
00:50:49,360 --> 00:50:55,000
Speaker 1: from normal Hillary, which is distant and cold, to here

887
00:50:55,000 --> 00:50:57,400
Speaker 1: comes a camera, here comes somebody that she needs to impress.

888
00:50:57,680 --> 00:51:00,799
Speaker 1: Say you know somebody who donates money or somebody who's

889
00:51:00,840 --> 00:51:04,080
Speaker 1: helping them, and immediately she switched. Flips of switch. I've

890
00:51:04,080 --> 00:51:06,520
Speaker 1: seen it many of times. Everybody in the Secret Service

891
00:51:06,520 --> 00:51:09,640
Speaker 1: that walked worked around them solves on the difference is

892
00:51:09,640 --> 00:51:13,000
Speaker 1: is they're not coming forward, And I understand why they're not.

893
00:51:13,080 --> 00:51:15,680
Speaker 1: But clear like I said before, clearly I've crossed some

894
00:51:15,760 --> 00:51:19,080
Speaker 1: threshold and things have changed. But Bill was different. Bill,

895
00:51:19,320 --> 00:51:23,279
Speaker 1: when she wanted all of you guys fired, he defended you.

896
00:51:23,280 --> 00:51:26,400
Speaker 1: You heard this conversation, You're right outside the door. Everybody

897
00:51:26,440 --> 00:51:30,120
Speaker 1: heard it. Everybody heard Yeah, and you heard them fight constantly?

898
00:51:30,520 --> 00:51:34,280
Speaker 1: Uh not constantly? Wouldn't be a lot? Yes, yes, absolutely,

899
00:51:34,360 --> 00:51:36,399
Speaker 1: And it's not just what I heard. You know, there's

900
00:51:36,400 --> 00:51:39,400
Speaker 1: a I know, as people read this book, you might

901
00:51:39,400 --> 00:51:41,920
Speaker 1: get the impression that the people that in the Secret Service,

902
00:51:41,920 --> 00:51:44,160
Speaker 1: the agents and officers, are a bunch of you know,

903
00:51:44,200 --> 00:51:46,920
Speaker 1: old ladies sitting around telling stories. When when I put

904
00:51:47,040 --> 00:51:49,359
Speaker 1: if you and I are working together, Sean and i'm

905
00:51:49,400 --> 00:51:51,600
Speaker 1: and I'm relieved and you're relieving me, I have to

906
00:51:51,640 --> 00:51:53,800
Speaker 1: tell you what's going on. And that's how this stuff.

907
00:51:53,880 --> 00:51:56,200
Speaker 1: We find out about this stuff. So the fact that

908
00:51:56,440 --> 00:51:58,920
Speaker 1: the way she behaved the night before in the holding

909
00:51:59,000 --> 00:52:01,640
Speaker 1: room at a to dinner, I would hear the next day,

910
00:52:01,640 --> 00:52:03,680
Speaker 1: Hey they sleep in the same room. I have no

911
00:52:03,800 --> 00:52:07,920
Speaker 1: idea nobody would know that. I certainly don't. You wouldn't

912
00:52:07,920 --> 00:52:10,879
Speaker 1: know based on where your position was, Well you I did.

913
00:52:11,400 --> 00:52:14,400
Speaker 1: I'm sorry. Yeah, I did have the opportunity. One of

914
00:52:15,000 --> 00:52:17,600
Speaker 1: because of the position I had outside the office, my

915
00:52:18,160 --> 00:52:20,799
Speaker 1: top secret security clearance had some things added to it,

916
00:52:21,000 --> 00:52:23,040
Speaker 1: and it also gave me the opportunity to do escort.

917
00:52:23,120 --> 00:52:25,960
Speaker 1: So let's say you're the guy they hired to come

918
00:52:25,960 --> 00:52:28,560
Speaker 1: in and fix the floors. Um, I would escort you

919
00:52:28,600 --> 00:52:30,840
Speaker 1: on a weekend while the first family wasn't there up

920
00:52:30,880 --> 00:52:32,520
Speaker 1: in the living course, And I've been up there, but

921
00:52:32,600 --> 00:52:35,840
Speaker 1: I didn't see anything that was out of the ordinary. Um,

922
00:52:35,880 --> 00:52:37,719
Speaker 1: you know, it looked like it's a beautiful place to

923
00:52:37,760 --> 00:52:39,440
Speaker 1: live in. It looked like a normal home to me.

924
00:52:39,640 --> 00:52:43,560
Speaker 1: Let's talk about the women. And it wasn't just Monica.

925
00:52:43,840 --> 00:52:46,799
Speaker 1: And Monica was not as slick as every everybody knew.

926
00:52:46,840 --> 00:52:49,879
Speaker 1: She was out to cook up with the president. Sure, sure,

927
00:52:49,920 --> 00:52:51,840
Speaker 1: she kind of left a trail bread comes. You know,

928
00:52:51,840 --> 00:52:53,880
Speaker 1: it was you had to be pretty switched off not

929
00:52:53,920 --> 00:52:57,080
Speaker 1: to understand why she was asking you, you know, where

930
00:52:57,080 --> 00:52:59,040
Speaker 1: the president is or how that your day's going in

931
00:52:59,239 --> 00:53:01,040
Speaker 1: and did he leave the mansion yet? And she was

932
00:53:01,200 --> 00:53:04,080
Speaker 1: purposely trying to place herself in his path. And and

933
00:53:04,120 --> 00:53:06,719
Speaker 1: that's what brought me, brought her to my attention and

934
00:53:06,760 --> 00:53:09,359
Speaker 1: why eventually, after a short period of time, I tried

935
00:53:09,400 --> 00:53:11,479
Speaker 1: to get her removed and it worked for a short

936
00:53:11,520 --> 00:53:13,800
Speaker 1: period of time, but then it didn't eat. Bill Clinton

937
00:53:13,800 --> 00:53:15,759
Speaker 1: personally got her the past to come back That's what

938
00:53:15,800 --> 00:53:17,839
Speaker 1: I believe absolutely. I mean, how else do you get

939
00:53:17,920 --> 00:53:19,879
Speaker 1: I mean, this is a big deal. When you get

940
00:53:19,920 --> 00:53:22,239
Speaker 1: that White House Pass, that's a big deal. That means

941
00:53:22,239 --> 00:53:24,120
Speaker 1: you have full access for the most part except for

942
00:53:24,160 --> 00:53:26,320
Speaker 1: the Oval office, so blue. You have that blue pass,

943
00:53:26,360 --> 00:53:28,759
Speaker 1: you have access to the to the west wing, to

944
00:53:28,840 --> 00:53:31,160
Speaker 1: the ground floor of the mansion. Right, Yeah, that's a

945
00:53:31,200 --> 00:53:34,080
Speaker 1: big deal, you know, and an intern doesn't usually get that.

946
00:53:34,760 --> 00:53:38,080
Speaker 1: But the other thing that that really shocked by you said,

947
00:53:38,120 --> 00:53:41,160
Speaker 1: there's many women involved here. Well, you talked about Eleanor

948
00:53:41,880 --> 00:53:47,920
Speaker 1: mandel U, former vice presidential candidate, former presidential candidate. Mondel's

949
00:53:47,960 --> 00:53:51,040
Speaker 1: taughter caught I think it was in the Blue room,

950
00:53:51,880 --> 00:53:55,239
Speaker 1: on the on the table making out with Bill and

951
00:53:55,400 --> 00:53:56,880
Speaker 1: they were in front of the table. But yeah, and

952
00:53:56,920 --> 00:53:59,759
Speaker 1: there were many others. How many others? So I don't

953
00:53:59,800 --> 00:54:04,040
Speaker 1: really know what the account is. Yeah, I'm aware of

954
00:54:04,760 --> 00:54:08,080
Speaker 1: easily three to four. These were regular people that he

955
00:54:08,080 --> 00:54:10,719
Speaker 1: would see that you knew he was having shenanigans. Well,

956
00:54:11,320 --> 00:54:14,279
Speaker 1: not not regular, but I know that he had had

957
00:54:14,360 --> 00:54:16,840
Speaker 1: contact with him. And also some of them were regular

958
00:54:17,040 --> 00:54:21,120
Speaker 1: because they were um people that traveled with him or

959
00:54:21,200 --> 00:54:22,759
Speaker 1: met him on the road when he would go on

960
00:54:22,800 --> 00:54:24,880
Speaker 1: the road, and so the agents knew that they were

961
00:54:24,920 --> 00:54:29,400
Speaker 1: meeting her absolutely. Um there there I heard quite a

962
00:54:29,440 --> 00:54:32,799
Speaker 1: few stories of from the agents about they actually when

963
00:54:32,840 --> 00:54:35,959
Speaker 1: I was trying to intervene with Monica and and before

964
00:54:35,960 --> 00:54:37,480
Speaker 1: I kind of put two and two together that it

965
00:54:37,520 --> 00:54:40,200
Speaker 1: was really happening that they were having this affair. That

966
00:54:41,080 --> 00:54:43,239
Speaker 1: one of the agents said to me, Gary, stay out

967
00:54:43,239 --> 00:54:44,920
Speaker 1: of this. You don't know what happens on the road.

968
00:54:45,000 --> 00:54:47,000
Speaker 1: I heard that many times. Gary, you don't know what's

969
00:54:47,000 --> 00:54:48,680
Speaker 1: going on in the road. You're not with us all

970
00:54:48,719 --> 00:54:50,520
Speaker 1: the time, and you don't you know, so they're trying

971
00:54:50,520 --> 00:54:52,279
Speaker 1: to look out for you. That was the heads up.

972
00:54:52,480 --> 00:54:55,160
Speaker 1: Don't get yourself and trus Listen, these guys maybe met

973
00:54:55,200 --> 00:54:57,200
Speaker 1: at me now for talking, but I had a great

974
00:54:57,200 --> 00:54:59,839
Speaker 1: working rapport with those agents, and especially let me ask

975
00:54:59,840 --> 00:55:01,799
Speaker 1: you out there because we I read some reports that

976
00:55:01,880 --> 00:55:03,279
Speaker 1: some of these guys are mad at you. But have

977
00:55:03,480 --> 00:55:06,399
Speaker 1: others contacted you and said, hey, thank you. Yeah, I'm

978
00:55:06,400 --> 00:55:09,120
Speaker 1: getting a lot of support from my uniform division brothers

979
00:55:09,120 --> 00:55:12,480
Speaker 1: and sisters. Um, but the agents are well. There might

980
00:55:12,520 --> 00:55:15,400
Speaker 1: have been a little bit of competitiveness between the agents

981
00:55:15,400 --> 00:55:17,560
Speaker 1: and officers. Yeah, there's always been a rift between the

982
00:55:17,560 --> 00:55:20,319
Speaker 1: agents and officers they actually run the Secret Service, and

983
00:55:20,520 --> 00:55:23,439
Speaker 1: um this The individual people that I work with are great,

984
00:55:23,480 --> 00:55:25,680
Speaker 1: but the Secret Service mentality, the way they manage the

985
00:55:25,800 --> 00:55:29,040
Speaker 1: people is horrendous. It's it's it's terrible and and I

986
00:55:29,040 --> 00:55:31,600
Speaker 1: don't this is not blaming the Clinton administration. This was

987
00:55:31,640 --> 00:55:34,200
Speaker 1: going on way before that. But the Secret Service management

988
00:55:34,200 --> 00:55:36,799
Speaker 1: style is tough. It's uh, it's do as I say,

989
00:55:36,800 --> 00:55:39,239
Speaker 1: not as I do sometimes, and they work you into

990
00:55:39,280 --> 00:55:41,239
Speaker 1: the ground. They're using the same procedures they've used for

991
00:55:41,239 --> 00:55:44,879
Speaker 1: seventy years and the same manpower statistics was so much

992
00:55:44,960 --> 00:55:47,319
Speaker 1: more work to do than there used to be. Who

993
00:55:47,320 --> 00:55:50,360
Speaker 1: got the Bible thrown at his head? So this agent

994
00:55:50,440 --> 00:55:52,600
Speaker 1: that I worked with, UM, I was working with them

995
00:55:52,640 --> 00:55:55,240
Speaker 1: on post one day and I heard the story, um,

996
00:55:55,280 --> 00:55:57,160
Speaker 1: from somebody else, and but I didn't know who it was.

997
00:55:57,200 --> 00:55:58,719
Speaker 1: And I turned to this guy and I said, Hey,

998
00:55:58,800 --> 00:56:00,839
Speaker 1: did you hear the story about one of you guys

999
00:56:00,920 --> 00:56:02,600
Speaker 1: get a Bible thrown at you? And he looked at

1000
00:56:02,640 --> 00:56:04,279
Speaker 1: me and he goes, yeah, it was me. And as

1001
00:56:04,280 --> 00:56:06,960
Speaker 1: soon as you told me, ain't got hit. That mean right,

1002
00:56:07,000 --> 00:56:09,360
Speaker 1: So it's target. They were on them in the limousine

1003
00:56:09,400 --> 00:56:10,800
Speaker 1: on the south grounds of the White House. And I

1004
00:56:10,840 --> 00:56:13,839
Speaker 1: don't know what she was piste off about. Sorry, that's fine,

1005
00:56:14,080 --> 00:56:16,400
Speaker 1: I say it all the time, mad about but she

1006
00:56:16,520 --> 00:56:18,759
Speaker 1: was piste off. She had a bible in her hand,

1007
00:56:18,840 --> 00:56:21,040
Speaker 1: and she lunched forward and hit him in the back

1008
00:56:21,040 --> 00:56:22,600
Speaker 1: of the head with it. Now he got out of

1009
00:56:22,600 --> 00:56:24,600
Speaker 1: the open the door, and he turned around and he

1010
00:56:24,680 --> 00:56:26,239
Speaker 1: made it very clear to her that that was not

1011
00:56:26,320 --> 00:56:28,560
Speaker 1: tolerable and it wasn't gonna happen again. And you even

1012
00:56:28,600 --> 00:56:31,600
Speaker 1: described in the book, you guys, if the first family

1013
00:56:31,680 --> 00:56:35,680
Speaker 1: struggling to pick up luggage, you are not, as protocol dictates,

1014
00:56:35,680 --> 00:56:37,560
Speaker 1: you're not allowed to reach down and help keep your

1015
00:56:37,560 --> 00:56:39,680
Speaker 1: hands free. You gotta have your hands free because if

1016
00:56:39,680 --> 00:56:42,160
Speaker 1: an incident occurs, I mean, I've carried a weapon all

1017
00:56:42,200 --> 00:56:44,640
Speaker 1: my life, You're not gonna be able to get to

1018
00:56:44,680 --> 00:56:46,480
Speaker 1: your weapon if you're picking up luggage. That's right, and

1019
00:56:46,600 --> 00:56:49,920
Speaker 1: and you're right about that. And the other thing, more

1020
00:56:49,960 --> 00:56:52,120
Speaker 1: importantly when it comes to protect easy is you've got

1021
00:56:52,200 --> 00:56:53,839
Speaker 1: to get your hands on them to get them moving.

1022
00:56:54,040 --> 00:56:56,120
Speaker 1: You got to move them away from the danger. And

1023
00:56:56,160 --> 00:56:59,319
Speaker 1: that's really the age's primary job. And and and that's

1024
00:56:59,360 --> 00:57:01,359
Speaker 1: what you're high it for. It you're willing to take

1025
00:57:01,400 --> 00:57:03,040
Speaker 1: a bullet, and you're willing to go down and give

1026
00:57:03,120 --> 00:57:05,279
Speaker 1: up your life for these people. That's why, you know,

1027
00:57:05,320 --> 00:57:07,719
Speaker 1: to be treated so horribly, go to go to hell.

1028
00:57:08,160 --> 00:57:13,200
Speaker 1: F off Bible's throne. Total dismissal. She really treated the

1029
00:57:13,320 --> 00:57:16,439
Speaker 1: officers and agents like craps. Yeah, she did. And every

1030
00:57:16,520 --> 00:57:19,400
Speaker 1: day though this is this is a regular unless somebody

1031
00:57:19,440 --> 00:57:21,919
Speaker 1: was around, it was I hate Why do you think

1032
00:57:21,960 --> 00:57:25,320
Speaker 1: she hated agents that are assigned to protect her life

1033
00:57:25,320 --> 00:57:27,560
Speaker 1: so much? You know, I'm no psychologist, but you know

1034
00:57:27,600 --> 00:57:30,479
Speaker 1: I'm an expert in observation, So I'm gonna just say

1035
00:57:30,480 --> 00:57:33,360
Speaker 1: what I think here and and over over these years.

1036
00:57:33,400 --> 00:57:35,440
Speaker 1: I just think she she has an issue with men,

1037
00:57:35,960 --> 00:57:38,960
Speaker 1: and my whole thing with her and and even her

1038
00:57:39,040 --> 00:57:41,920
Speaker 1: husband to a certain extent. There the Clinton machine, as

1039
00:57:41,960 --> 00:57:44,680
Speaker 1: I call it, they don't like law enforcement, and they

1040
00:57:44,720 --> 00:57:48,080
Speaker 1: don't really like the military. I'm sorry, and I have,

1041
00:57:48,360 --> 00:57:51,320
Speaker 1: you know, opinions and stories of why I believe that,

1042
00:57:51,520 --> 00:57:54,760
Speaker 1: but they just don't seem to like them. And they'll say,

1043
00:57:54,800 --> 00:57:57,000
Speaker 1: obviously they say that, you know how much they support

1044
00:57:57,080 --> 00:57:59,960
Speaker 1: the military. But let's look at the incidents that have happened,

1045
00:58:00,120 --> 00:58:02,760
Speaker 1: and they weren't supporting them, and the same with law enforcement.

1046
00:58:03,000 --> 00:58:06,160
Speaker 1: Um so. And by the way, there was a distinct difference.

1047
00:58:06,200 --> 00:58:09,760
Speaker 1: You describe the time that you had in the White

1048
00:58:09,760 --> 00:58:14,040
Speaker 1: House with the Bushes, and they were lovely people. But

1049
00:58:14,040 --> 00:58:18,800
Speaker 1: you're you're not speaking politically here. I don't even know. Um,

1050
00:58:18,840 --> 00:58:20,520
Speaker 1: I mean, you don't want her to be elected president.

1051
00:58:20,600 --> 00:58:23,600
Speaker 1: So I assume that means you're gonna vote for Donald Trump. Well,

1052
00:58:23,640 --> 00:58:26,280
Speaker 1: I'm gonna I'm not gonna talk about who I'm gonna

1053
00:58:26,320 --> 00:58:29,000
Speaker 1: vote for you yet. But but the Bushes were nice.

1054
00:58:29,040 --> 00:58:32,640
Speaker 1: People were genuinely nice people. They were respected the officers

1055
00:58:32,640 --> 00:58:37,120
Speaker 1: and agents and sense of humor, great kind people. And

1056
00:58:37,320 --> 00:58:39,080
Speaker 1: you know, in hindsight, when I think about it now,

1057
00:58:39,120 --> 00:58:40,560
Speaker 1: so on, it kind of set me up for a

1058
00:58:40,640 --> 00:58:43,720
Speaker 1: huge shock when we changed administrations and the Clinton's end

1059
00:58:43,760 --> 00:58:46,200
Speaker 1: up being the way they are. And because the Bushes

1060
00:58:46,200 --> 00:58:48,640
Speaker 1: were like a family. Did Bill ever come out of

1061
00:58:48,680 --> 00:58:51,840
Speaker 1: the Oval Office like I'm really sorry, you know, I'm

1062
00:58:51,880 --> 00:58:54,840
Speaker 1: sorry you had to hear that. And no, But but

1063
00:58:55,000 --> 00:58:58,600
Speaker 1: one time along those lines, Sean, um he was he

1064
00:58:58,680 --> 00:59:00,680
Speaker 1: was in a meeting, the President was in the meeting

1065
00:59:00,720 --> 00:59:02,760
Speaker 1: in the Roosevelt Room, and he was crossing back over

1066
00:59:02,760 --> 00:59:04,880
Speaker 1: to the oval office, and whatever they were discussing in

1067
00:59:04,920 --> 00:59:07,600
Speaker 1: the meeting was pretty hot and contentious, and and he

1068
00:59:07,680 --> 00:59:09,960
Speaker 1: was upset about something. And as he walked out, he

1069
00:59:10,000 --> 00:59:13,240
Speaker 1: was brating somebody about getting something done. And clearly, you know,

1070
00:59:13,640 --> 00:59:16,520
Speaker 1: you could tell that who somebody dropped the ball whatever.

1071
00:59:16,640 --> 00:59:18,320
Speaker 1: As he was walking back into the oval office, he

1072
00:59:18,360 --> 00:59:21,920
Speaker 1: started screaming at this, raising his voice at this one. Uh,

1073
00:59:22,040 --> 00:59:24,200
Speaker 1: this man and this woman whose job it was to

1074
00:59:24,240 --> 00:59:27,600
Speaker 1: do whatever it was. So as he's yelling at them,

1075
00:59:27,600 --> 00:59:29,720
Speaker 1: he walked right by me and the agent posted there,

1076
00:59:29,720 --> 00:59:31,480
Speaker 1: and the door was already open for him. And as

1077
00:59:31,520 --> 00:59:34,200
Speaker 1: he walks in, he turns around and they said something

1078
00:59:34,200 --> 00:59:36,160
Speaker 1: to him, and he turned around and screamed at me

1079
00:59:36,240 --> 00:59:39,120
Speaker 1: closed that, you know, F and door and um, and

1080
00:59:39,120 --> 00:59:40,440
Speaker 1: I just kind of looked at him. I looked at

1081
00:59:40,480 --> 00:59:42,080
Speaker 1: the agent. We kind of smirked at each other. And

1082
00:59:42,120 --> 00:59:43,800
Speaker 1: I stepped in and grabbed the door and I pulled

1083
00:59:43,800 --> 00:59:46,600
Speaker 1: it shut. So UM. A little while later, he comes

1084
00:59:46,640 --> 00:59:50,520
Speaker 1: out into the um Stewart's little kitchen area to get

1085
00:59:50,560 --> 00:59:53,200
Speaker 1: himself a soda, and I walked back just because I

1086
00:59:53,200 --> 00:59:54,880
Speaker 1: heard a noise that the outer door was open. I

1087
00:59:54,880 --> 00:59:56,880
Speaker 1: walked back to check and it was him, and he

1088
00:59:56,880 --> 00:59:58,600
Speaker 1: looked over. He said, how are you doing today, young man?

1089
00:59:58,640 --> 01:00:00,440
Speaker 1: How's it going? I said, good, sir, how are you you?

1090
01:00:00,440 --> 01:00:02,600
Speaker 1: You know, and he didn't apologize, but he broke his

1091
01:00:02,680 --> 01:00:05,320
Speaker 1: way of saying, yeah, that's the way I interpreted it.

1092
01:00:05,360 --> 01:00:07,360
Speaker 1: And he was very friendly, and he was very nice,

1093
01:00:07,360 --> 01:00:09,200
Speaker 1: and once in a while he would ask you personal question,

1094
01:00:09,240 --> 01:00:10,960
Speaker 1: you know, your family, that kind of thing. It was.

1095
01:00:11,080 --> 01:00:13,560
Speaker 1: It was not always horrendous. All Right, News round up,

1096
01:00:13,600 --> 01:00:16,760
Speaker 1: Information Overload hour Here on the Sean Hannity Show. We

1097
01:00:16,880 --> 01:00:19,400
Speaker 1: have Senator Mike Lee's gonna stop by in studio coming up.

1098
01:00:19,440 --> 01:00:21,800
Speaker 1: At the bottom of this half hour, we continue with

1099
01:00:22,080 --> 01:00:25,200
Speaker 1: Secret Service Officer Gary Byrne. He's got a brand new

1100
01:00:25,240 --> 01:00:27,040
Speaker 1: book out. It's meant a lot of news. It's called

1101
01:00:27,040 --> 01:00:31,040
Speaker 1: a Crisis of Character. White House Secret Service officer discloses

1102
01:00:31,080 --> 01:00:34,920
Speaker 1: his firsthand experience with Hillary Bill and how they operate.

1103
01:00:35,200 --> 01:00:37,520
Speaker 1: Let me go back to the women part of it.

1104
01:00:37,840 --> 01:00:41,120
Speaker 1: You knew things were going on then there was the

1105
01:00:41,200 --> 01:00:44,360
Speaker 1: map room incident with eleanor Mondale. You know for a

1106
01:00:44,400 --> 01:00:47,000
Speaker 1: fact that there were other women as well that we

1107
01:00:47,040 --> 01:00:49,600
Speaker 1: don't know whose names they are, and you're not disclosing them.

1108
01:00:49,960 --> 01:00:54,640
Speaker 1: And you even at one point hit evidence for Bill Clinton. Sure,

1109
01:00:54,840 --> 01:00:57,120
Speaker 1: did you know you were breaking the law doing that? Well,

1110
01:00:57,440 --> 01:01:00,200
Speaker 1: it technically wasn't evans because I didn't know there was

1111
01:01:00,200 --> 01:01:02,960
Speaker 1: a there was an investigation going on? All right, No that,

1112
01:01:03,160 --> 01:01:05,919
Speaker 1: but yes there was. There was an incident, a couple

1113
01:01:05,960 --> 01:01:08,760
Speaker 1: of incidents is where the navy stewart brought to my

1114
01:01:08,800 --> 01:01:12,080
Speaker 1: attention that he had found some hand towels, white hand

1115
01:01:12,080 --> 01:01:14,480
Speaker 1: towels that were, in one case staying with lipstick, in

1116
01:01:14,520 --> 01:01:19,760
Speaker 1: another case staying with men's fluids. What appeared to be, oh, good,

1117
01:01:19,840 --> 01:01:24,040
Speaker 1: g um, this is the president, this is the oval office.

1118
01:01:24,240 --> 01:01:26,720
Speaker 1: Reagan wouldn't take his jacket off in that office, for

1119
01:01:26,760 --> 01:01:29,600
Speaker 1: crying out right, he wouldn't walk across the seal. So

1120
01:01:29,600 --> 01:01:31,440
Speaker 1: when I mentioned earlier that I've gone through some kind

1121
01:01:31,480 --> 01:01:33,960
Speaker 1: of threshold, there's a good example of what pushed me

1122
01:01:34,000 --> 01:01:36,720
Speaker 1: through it a little bit. It's just bizarre. So, um,

1123
01:01:36,840 --> 01:01:39,560
Speaker 1: the steward was described, so you knew who's you knew

1124
01:01:39,560 --> 01:01:41,960
Speaker 1: who was listen to any adult male those we were

1125
01:01:42,000 --> 01:01:44,280
Speaker 1: looking at, right, And my fear was that, you know,

1126
01:01:44,320 --> 01:01:46,360
Speaker 1: the only people that handled that stuff where the navy

1127
01:01:46,400 --> 01:01:50,440
Speaker 1: Stewart's downstairs that lost They're all laughing in there. That's

1128
01:01:50,480 --> 01:01:52,200
Speaker 1: you know what would stopped this crew has got us.

1129
01:01:52,240 --> 01:01:57,400
Speaker 1: That's my crew. Very bad people. They want the salacious details. Yeah,

1130
01:01:57,560 --> 01:02:01,360
Speaker 1: they they they they watched the the towels. They would know.

1131
01:02:01,480 --> 01:02:03,360
Speaker 1: These guys are navy men, they know what they would

1132
01:02:03,360 --> 01:02:05,280
Speaker 1: be looking at. And at this point I was trying

1133
01:02:05,320 --> 01:02:08,040
Speaker 1: to protect for many more rumors. So I told Nelvis

1134
01:02:08,360 --> 01:02:11,000
Speaker 1: I found the plastic bag out of the trash can liner.

1135
01:02:11,000 --> 01:02:13,200
Speaker 1: I told Nels to throw him in the bag, and

1136
01:02:13,320 --> 01:02:16,320
Speaker 1: I destroyed them. And then, of course, some time later

1137
01:02:16,480 --> 01:02:19,640
Speaker 1: when the story broke, uh broke by Matt Drudge, and

1138
01:02:19,680 --> 01:02:22,320
Speaker 1: then I heard about it on the Howard Stern Show,

1139
01:02:23,000 --> 01:02:26,840
Speaker 1: and I knew right there. I mean, the my stomach

1140
01:02:26,880 --> 01:02:29,440
Speaker 1: almost slipped out of my body. I was so terrified

1141
01:02:29,440 --> 01:02:32,360
Speaker 1: because I connected the thoughts instantly. You know, that story

1142
01:02:32,440 --> 01:02:35,240
Speaker 1: is true. It's out. They're gonna, they're gonna, they're gonna

1143
01:02:35,240 --> 01:02:37,680
Speaker 1: come after us. You know, it's just gotta be surreal.

1144
01:02:38,360 --> 01:02:40,480
Speaker 1: You know, here, you wanted to do this job your

1145
01:02:40,520 --> 01:02:42,760
Speaker 1: whole life, and the next thing you know, you're throwing

1146
01:02:42,800 --> 01:02:46,560
Speaker 1: out soiled towels of the president with his mistress. Yeah

1147
01:02:46,680 --> 01:02:49,560
Speaker 1: and uh and mistress is yeah and and and in

1148
01:02:49,640 --> 01:02:52,800
Speaker 1: the case of the intern by this time or at

1149
01:02:52,840 --> 01:02:55,439
Speaker 1: some point she becomes a government employee. So now she's

1150
01:02:55,440 --> 01:02:58,480
Speaker 1: a government paid mistress. It was bizarre when you think

1151
01:02:58,520 --> 01:03:01,120
Speaker 1: about it. In hindsight, it's just crazy, you know. Well,

1152
01:03:01,240 --> 01:03:04,440
Speaker 1: I mean it's certainly reckless on for a whole variety

1153
01:03:04,440 --> 01:03:07,480
Speaker 1: of reasons. Here, Um, let me ask you this question.

1154
01:03:07,520 --> 01:03:10,840
Speaker 1: You said during the shutdown, when the when Monica was

1155
01:03:11,000 --> 01:03:14,520
Speaker 1: visiting and she gained access that she wanted so badly,

1156
01:03:14,520 --> 01:03:17,440
Speaker 1: were you there at that point? You were outside the door?

1157
01:03:17,680 --> 01:03:19,880
Speaker 1: I was, Um, so when all those went on and

1158
01:03:19,920 --> 01:03:22,720
Speaker 1: she was there a lot more than we knew. Yeah, sure,

1159
01:03:22,920 --> 01:03:26,680
Speaker 1: the which are describing is uh. And the shutdown was

1160
01:03:26,720 --> 01:03:30,680
Speaker 1: actually kind of a windfall for Monica because the way

1161
01:03:30,720 --> 01:03:33,320
Speaker 1: it works is the only essential people would come in now,

1162
01:03:33,480 --> 01:03:35,440
Speaker 1: so the only essential people that were allowed to come

1163
01:03:35,480 --> 01:03:38,280
Speaker 1: in and help President Clinton was one assistant, which would

1164
01:03:38,320 --> 01:03:41,200
Speaker 1: have been Betty Curry and then leon Panetta, and he

1165
01:03:41,240 --> 01:03:44,280
Speaker 1: could have a couple interns, and she ended up being

1166
01:03:44,320 --> 01:03:46,920
Speaker 1: one of the interns. And in hindsight, it was like,

1167
01:03:46,960 --> 01:03:49,880
Speaker 1: it's almost comical. I mean, you can't write this, and

1168
01:03:50,000 --> 01:03:53,200
Speaker 1: so that's when she gets so during this time, these

1169
01:03:53,240 --> 01:03:55,960
Speaker 1: these interns. They were across from the Oval Office in

1170
01:03:55,960 --> 01:03:57,800
Speaker 1: the Roosevelt Room, and that's where they were kind of

1171
01:03:57,840 --> 01:03:59,840
Speaker 1: working at it. And when they needed something done you,

1172
01:04:00,080 --> 01:04:01,560
Speaker 1: they would go and find them there and then ask

1173
01:04:01,640 --> 01:04:04,400
Speaker 1: them to do it. And if Hillary came by during

1174
01:04:04,520 --> 01:04:07,600
Speaker 1: any of this, you were you were supposed to refuse

1175
01:04:07,720 --> 01:04:12,280
Speaker 1: Hillary entry. No, you can't refuse the first lady entry.

1176
01:04:12,320 --> 01:04:14,800
Speaker 1: But we certainly were paying attention to her movements when

1177
01:04:14,840 --> 01:04:17,120
Speaker 1: you're a protectee of the Secret Services, and they would

1178
01:04:17,120 --> 01:04:19,400
Speaker 1: talk to you saying, watch how she's on the warpath,

1179
01:04:19,480 --> 01:04:21,480
Speaker 1: and you would know before she came down, right, they

1180
01:04:21,480 --> 01:04:25,120
Speaker 1: would use her call sign. They'd say, you know, Evergreen moving. Uh,

1181
01:04:25,440 --> 01:04:27,680
Speaker 1: Evergreen moving. We already know she's in the mansion, so

1182
01:04:27,720 --> 01:04:30,479
Speaker 1: she's leaving the private living quarters. And then you would

1183
01:04:30,520 --> 01:04:33,040
Speaker 1: you know once she hit the ground floor, if they

1184
01:04:33,040 --> 01:04:35,880
Speaker 1: said Hillary west Wing, you know she was headed that way.

1185
01:04:36,160 --> 01:04:38,800
Speaker 1: Wasn't the President at all embarrassed when he got caught

1186
01:04:38,880 --> 01:04:42,440
Speaker 1: with any of these women, or Eleanor Mondale or for example,

1187
01:04:42,480 --> 01:04:44,600
Speaker 1: you didn't you see them making out on the Oval

1188
01:04:44,640 --> 01:04:48,840
Speaker 1: Office desk? No, I saw Eleanor Mondale and the President

1189
01:04:49,360 --> 01:04:52,000
Speaker 1: making out in the map room, and uh, I mean

1190
01:04:52,000 --> 01:04:54,320
Speaker 1: it was like it was. Yes, they were like two

1191
01:04:54,400 --> 01:04:58,480
Speaker 1: high school seniors, um lip locked, you know, hugging each other.

1192
01:04:58,600 --> 01:05:00,760
Speaker 1: And what happened was is the uh, one of the

1193
01:05:00,840 --> 01:05:03,640
Speaker 1: one of the housemen, excuse me, navy stewarts went to

1194
01:05:03,640 --> 01:05:06,320
Speaker 1: go into the room to deliver a clean shirt to

1195
01:05:06,360 --> 01:05:08,200
Speaker 1: the president. He had a shirt in his hand, and

1196
01:05:08,240 --> 01:05:10,280
Speaker 1: as he started towards the door, you know, he said

1197
01:05:10,360 --> 01:05:11,960
Speaker 1: hi to us. I just happened to be standing there

1198
01:05:11,960 --> 01:05:13,920
Speaker 1: on my way back to my post, and he opened

1199
01:05:13,920 --> 01:05:15,439
Speaker 1: the door, but he was looking at us, and there

1200
01:05:15,440 --> 01:05:18,360
Speaker 1: they were. But everybody knew. How did he not think

1201
01:05:18,400 --> 01:05:21,000
Speaker 1: this was gonna come out? Everybody knew. You don't think

1202
01:05:21,040 --> 01:05:22,960
Speaker 1: he cared. I don't think he cared that people knew

1203
01:05:23,000 --> 01:05:25,480
Speaker 1: because it was used to being covered. He was used

1204
01:05:25,480 --> 01:05:27,160
Speaker 1: to being protected, he was used to getting away with

1205
01:05:27,240 --> 01:05:30,000
Speaker 1: so it was expected that your job is you're gonna

1206
01:05:30,000 --> 01:05:33,040
Speaker 1: be quiet about this. I think, in hindsight, I think

1207
01:05:33,080 --> 01:05:35,640
Speaker 1: that everything that I heard from markansa Off, from the

1208
01:05:35,640 --> 01:05:39,040
Speaker 1: troopers and sheriff's down there was true. And the one

1209
01:05:39,120 --> 01:05:41,360
Speaker 1: officer actually told you that everything you hear about them

1210
01:05:41,400 --> 01:05:43,360
Speaker 1: is true and worse. Yes, and when he did, I'm

1211
01:05:43,360 --> 01:05:46,240
Speaker 1: telling you it was like he was talking looking right

1212
01:05:46,280 --> 01:05:48,480
Speaker 1: through me, like he it was a significant I mean

1213
01:05:48,520 --> 01:05:50,000
Speaker 1: I only knew this guy for a couple of minutes,

1214
01:05:50,040 --> 01:05:51,560
Speaker 1: and when he told me that, I felt like it

1215
01:05:51,600 --> 01:05:53,680
Speaker 1: was somebody telling me something. You know, Gary, here's some

1216
01:05:53,760 --> 01:05:55,960
Speaker 1: good investment advice for your life. You know what I mean.

1217
01:05:56,000 --> 01:05:59,400
Speaker 1: He was serious and he meant it, and um, so yeah,

1218
01:05:59,440 --> 01:06:01,840
Speaker 1: it was very is our time, Sean. Uh, you talk

1219
01:06:01,920 --> 01:06:04,880
Speaker 1: in the book, for example, you we have become work friends.

1220
01:06:04,880 --> 01:06:07,000
Speaker 1: He knew that by serving the president, even a single

1221
01:06:07,040 --> 01:06:09,440
Speaker 1: cup of tea to ease his mind, he served as

1222
01:06:09,560 --> 01:06:12,280
Speaker 1: nation whatever the president needed, whenever he needed it. And

1223
01:06:12,320 --> 01:06:15,560
Speaker 1: you're talking about the White House, Uh, what's the position,

1224
01:06:15,640 --> 01:06:18,920
Speaker 1: So the Stewart Stewart, Yeah, I'm probably describing Nelvius there,

1225
01:06:18,920 --> 01:06:21,520
Speaker 1: but there were recorded now Stewarts. Yeah, there were quite

1226
01:06:21,520 --> 01:06:23,720
Speaker 1: a few Storaris. They have a great history there. Traditionally

1227
01:06:23,720 --> 01:06:26,440
Speaker 1: they were actually all the Filipino men and it was

1228
01:06:26,640 --> 01:06:29,480
Speaker 1: they have a great story behind that. So yeah, I

1229
01:06:29,520 --> 01:06:34,320
Speaker 1: mean you're describing a surreal tell us about the end

1230
01:06:34,360 --> 01:06:36,680
Speaker 1: of your relationship with him. He's getting ready to you know,

1231
01:06:36,800 --> 01:06:41,440
Speaker 1: when you were leaving, So leaving Nelvis, No, no, no,

1232
01:06:41,600 --> 01:06:44,720
Speaker 1: leaving you know, for example, you spent you left job

1233
01:06:44,960 --> 01:06:48,600
Speaker 1: right so with the president, so UM sometime before the

1234
01:06:48,880 --> 01:06:52,280
Speaker 1: story broke, UM, I had basically had enough of what

1235
01:06:52,320 --> 01:06:55,160
Speaker 1: was going on, and I didn't know what was coming,

1236
01:06:55,200 --> 01:06:57,280
Speaker 1: but I just I was tired of seeing some of

1237
01:06:57,280 --> 01:06:59,160
Speaker 1: the stuff that was going on, and it was time

1238
01:06:59,200 --> 01:07:00,920
Speaker 1: for me to move on. So I was trying to

1239
01:07:00,960 --> 01:07:03,480
Speaker 1: get into a position in the un Secret Service Uniform

1240
01:07:03,520 --> 01:07:06,280
Speaker 1: Division Tour section, and they do all the tours for

1241
01:07:06,480 --> 01:07:09,760
Speaker 1: the public and for the First Family and events. If

1242
01:07:09,760 --> 01:07:11,439
Speaker 1: you've ever been to the White House for an event,

1243
01:07:11,640 --> 01:07:15,200
Speaker 1: the Uniform Division people screen you in and out and

1244
01:07:15,200 --> 01:07:18,320
Speaker 1: and so anyway, I wanted to go to tours because

1245
01:07:18,360 --> 01:07:19,800
Speaker 1: I have had enough of what was going on at

1246
01:07:19,800 --> 01:07:22,960
Speaker 1: the Oval Office and then UM, and then eventually I

1247
01:07:23,040 --> 01:07:25,160
Speaker 1: left tours and went out to the training center, UM

1248
01:07:25,520 --> 01:07:27,520
Speaker 1: to to get away from it. And then of course

1249
01:07:27,560 --> 01:07:30,720
Speaker 1: when the when the story broke, all those relationships with

1250
01:07:30,720 --> 01:07:33,560
Speaker 1: those people are under a huge strain because everybody was

1251
01:07:33,640 --> 01:07:36,720
Speaker 1: terrified about testifying and and and so you didn't want

1252
01:07:36,760 --> 01:07:38,560
Speaker 1: to do it, No, I did not. I wanted nothing

1253
01:07:38,600 --> 01:07:40,680
Speaker 1: to do with it because I knew that I was

1254
01:07:40,680 --> 01:07:42,760
Speaker 1: gonna have to talk about stuff that I mean It

1255
01:07:42,840 --> 01:07:45,480
Speaker 1: sounds silly saying it now because I'm I'm coming out

1256
01:07:45,520 --> 01:07:48,360
Speaker 1: with all this, but it was really nobody's business. And

1257
01:07:48,400 --> 01:07:50,520
Speaker 1: I mean that as far as it could all been

1258
01:07:50,520 --> 01:07:53,240
Speaker 1: stopped by the President coming forward and and manning up

1259
01:07:53,240 --> 01:07:56,400
Speaker 1: and doing the right thing and saying, yes, this did happen. Um,

1260
01:07:56,440 --> 01:07:58,920
Speaker 1: here's the steps we're gonna take so it never happens again.

1261
01:07:59,000 --> 01:08:01,720
Speaker 1: And I'm sorry it on with running the government instead

1262
01:08:01,760 --> 01:08:05,240
Speaker 1: of that in huge debacle with Congress. It was incredible. Yeah,

1263
01:08:05,320 --> 01:08:07,640
Speaker 1: you were even threatened at one point that somebody would

1264
01:08:07,880 --> 01:08:10,080
Speaker 1: arrest you in front of your pregnant wife. Yes, the

1265
01:08:10,160 --> 01:08:13,920
Speaker 1: secret excuse me, the FBI agent that was um involved

1266
01:08:13,920 --> 01:08:16,840
Speaker 1: in one particular day when I was being deposed at

1267
01:08:16,880 --> 01:08:20,559
Speaker 1: the Judge Star's office temporary office, and they were trying

1268
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Speaker 1: to get me riled up, and they did, and um,

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01:08:23,160 --> 01:08:24,639
Speaker 1: you know, it was a little embarrassing that I let

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01:08:24,640 --> 01:08:25,960
Speaker 1: them get me riled up. But you know, you can

1271
01:08:25,960 --> 01:08:29,799
Speaker 1: only when you threaten them, you know, talk about somebody's

1272
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Speaker 1: spouse with your first kid. It's uh, that's a little Yeah.

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01:08:33,040 --> 01:08:34,560
Speaker 1: It was over the top, and he got what he

1274
01:08:34,600 --> 01:08:36,720
Speaker 1: wanted a reaction, and I gave him one. When we

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01:08:36,800 --> 01:08:39,600
Speaker 1: hear the stories and we go over, for example, the

1276
01:08:40,040 --> 01:08:44,160
Speaker 1: secret server, the secret server email thing of of Hillary.

1277
01:08:44,360 --> 01:08:46,280
Speaker 1: When we hear that, and you discussed a little bit

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01:08:46,280 --> 01:08:48,000
Speaker 1: in the book about Benghazi and some of the other

1279
01:08:48,040 --> 01:08:51,519
Speaker 1: current events. But that fits the character absolutely, It falls

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01:08:51,600 --> 01:08:55,680
Speaker 1: right into place. It's the same. It's the same mentality

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01:08:55,920 --> 01:08:58,200
Speaker 1: or or or actions that I that I saw the

1282
01:08:58,200 --> 01:09:01,439
Speaker 1: whole time I was there. I Hillary Clinton, I'm not Actually,

1283
01:09:01,560 --> 01:09:03,360
Speaker 1: I don't have to follow procedure. You do what I

1284
01:09:03,400 --> 01:09:04,840
Speaker 1: want when I do it, do as I say, not

1285
01:09:04,960 --> 01:09:06,880
Speaker 1: as I do. You say. All of this was such

1286
01:09:06,880 --> 01:09:10,040
Speaker 1: a distraction to such a big level that governing was

1287
01:09:10,200 --> 01:09:12,919
Speaker 1: last on their list. Yeah, that's exactly the way appeared.

1288
01:09:12,960 --> 01:09:15,680
Speaker 1: And this is somebody who watched close by the You

1289
01:09:15,720 --> 01:09:18,640
Speaker 1: know when when all your staff, when George Stefanopolis and

1290
01:09:18,680 --> 01:09:20,719
Speaker 1: Rahm Emanuel and these guys are doing nothing but putting

1291
01:09:20,720 --> 01:09:23,559
Speaker 1: out scandals and trying to fix stuff and twist it. Christ,

1292
01:09:23,560 --> 01:09:25,400
Speaker 1: they must have been exhausted when you think of all

1293
01:09:25,439 --> 01:09:28,639
Speaker 1: the scame. You even talked about leon Panetta and Dick

1294
01:09:28,720 --> 01:09:33,439
Speaker 1: Morris huddling. I'm sorry. Leon Panetta was was the target

1295
01:09:33,479 --> 01:09:36,880
Speaker 1: of Hillary and Dick Morris discussing how to get rid

1296
01:09:36,880 --> 01:09:39,000
Speaker 1: of him as the chief of staff. Well, I'm not

1297
01:09:39,360 --> 01:09:41,639
Speaker 1: I'm not sure if um, if they were actually trying

1298
01:09:41,640 --> 01:09:43,360
Speaker 1: to get rid of what they were doing is they

1299
01:09:43,360 --> 01:09:45,720
Speaker 1: were they were meeting with Dick Morris at night. Now,

1300
01:09:45,760 --> 01:09:48,360
Speaker 1: we would see Dick Morris come in, usually around ten

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01:09:48,360 --> 01:09:50,400
Speaker 1: o'clock at night. We'd get a phone call from the

1302
01:09:50,439 --> 01:09:52,599
Speaker 1: Southwest gate, you know, and the guy said, hey, Gary

1303
01:09:52,600 --> 01:09:54,479
Speaker 1: Morris is here, and he'd come up and he always

1304
01:09:54,479 --> 01:09:56,080
Speaker 1: looked like he was lost in the west wing. He'd

1305
01:09:56,080 --> 01:09:58,400
Speaker 1: come through the west side, and then if the President

1306
01:09:58,400 --> 01:10:00,680
Speaker 1: wasn't in the Oval office, we would, um, you know,

1307
01:10:00,760 --> 01:10:02,880
Speaker 1: we would give him directions to walk to the next officer,

1308
01:10:02,920 --> 01:10:05,200
Speaker 1: get him over the mansion. And then now, of course

1309
01:10:05,439 --> 01:10:07,400
Speaker 1: I used we used to see closer to Hillary or

1310
01:10:07,439 --> 01:10:10,040
Speaker 1: to Bill. Well, he was closer to Hillary. She apparently

1311
01:10:10,120 --> 01:10:12,920
Speaker 1: was his friend, and um, he was, you know, back then,

1312
01:10:12,960 --> 01:10:16,720
Speaker 1: a Republican operative or and he was teaching them what

1313
01:10:16,880 --> 01:10:19,840
Speaker 1: he had kind of claimed the inventor was you know, triangulation,

1314
01:10:20,120 --> 01:10:25,400
Speaker 1: excuse me, triangulation. And so now, of course we don't

1315
01:10:25,400 --> 01:10:27,919
Speaker 1: know what's going on. But when I read Leon Panetta's

1316
01:10:27,920 --> 01:10:31,120
Speaker 1: book and he talked about this, it fell right into place.

1317
01:10:31,600 --> 01:10:33,960
Speaker 1: We used to see Dick Morris coming in all the time.

1318
01:10:34,120 --> 01:10:36,479
Speaker 1: I mean we never said anything anybody. That's not our job,

1319
01:10:37,360 --> 01:10:39,800
Speaker 1: but um, it had to be a cool job though

1320
01:10:39,800 --> 01:10:41,320
Speaker 1: for you. I was thinking about this as I was

1321
01:10:41,360 --> 01:10:43,920
Speaker 1: reading about your life and background. I mean, every day

1322
01:10:43,960 --> 01:10:47,639
Speaker 1: you're seeing big names coming in and incredible, it's incredible.

1323
01:10:47,640 --> 01:10:50,040
Speaker 1: It was it was I never wanted to leave, and

1324
01:10:50,080 --> 01:10:53,040
Speaker 1: of course that changed when this bizarre stuff happened. Um,

1325
01:10:53,080 --> 01:10:56,200
Speaker 1: I would you know, in hindsight, Um, if that hadn't happened,

1326
01:10:56,280 --> 01:10:57,639
Speaker 1: they would have had to take me out of there

1327
01:10:57,640 --> 01:10:59,880
Speaker 1: in a wheelchair with the crowbar. What did you think

1328
01:10:59,880 --> 01:11:02,160
Speaker 1: of about Clinton when you knew he was lying to

1329
01:11:02,200 --> 01:11:04,920
Speaker 1: the nation? I was embarrassed, I was disgraced, and I

1330
01:11:05,000 --> 01:11:08,320
Speaker 1: was afraid because I was afraid. I mean, as far

1331
01:11:08,360 --> 01:11:12,360
Speaker 1: as the the relationship with the intern went, I was afraid.

1332
01:11:12,479 --> 01:11:14,360
Speaker 1: I knew it would come back to us, you know,

1333
01:11:14,680 --> 01:11:16,519
Speaker 1: you know, come out. There was just too many people

1334
01:11:16,560 --> 01:11:18,000
Speaker 1: that knew. You know. One of the one of the

1335
01:11:18,040 --> 01:11:19,680
Speaker 1: things that saved us, and I talked about this in

1336
01:11:19,720 --> 01:11:22,439
Speaker 1: the book, was that Linda Tripp did the right thing.

1337
01:11:22,920 --> 01:11:24,920
Speaker 1: Linda Trip did the right thing the way Linda Trip

1338
01:11:24,960 --> 01:11:27,919
Speaker 1: and and Monica wouldn't have met but for you pushing

1339
01:11:28,000 --> 01:11:30,640
Speaker 1: and forcing the issue of getting Monica out of it.

1340
01:11:30,640 --> 01:11:32,439
Speaker 1: It didn't last too long, but long enough her to

1341
01:11:32,479 --> 01:11:35,200
Speaker 1: meet Linda. Yeah. I believe that's correct when she went

1342
01:11:35,280 --> 01:11:39,759
Speaker 1: over there, so um but um yeah, so um Linda trip.

1343
01:11:40,000 --> 01:11:43,600
Speaker 1: Excuse me, uh yeah, Linda Trip. By encouraging Monica to

1344
01:11:43,640 --> 01:11:45,120
Speaker 1: keep the dress and then getting hold of it, that

1345
01:11:45,200 --> 01:11:47,479
Speaker 1: was evidence. And if that wasn't there, it would have

1346
01:11:47,520 --> 01:11:50,800
Speaker 1: just been our word against his and the ideal that

1347
01:11:50,880 --> 01:11:53,719
Speaker 1: you can go in there. I mean, maybe the president

1348
01:11:53,760 --> 01:11:55,920
Speaker 1: and Mrs Clinton and high up government people can get

1349
01:11:55,960 --> 01:11:59,040
Speaker 1: away with answering under oath of I don't remember, I

1350
01:11:59,040 --> 01:12:01,200
Speaker 1: don't recall, but somebody in the Secret Service is not

1351
01:12:01,200 --> 01:12:03,120
Speaker 1: going to get away with that. One of the things.

1352
01:12:03,200 --> 01:12:05,680
Speaker 1: I've been to the Oval Office maybe four times. I

1353
01:12:05,720 --> 01:12:09,200
Speaker 1: don't you would have been gone by that. Um. But

1354
01:12:09,280 --> 01:12:11,360
Speaker 1: I remember the first time I walked in there, it

1355
01:12:11,400 --> 01:12:14,479
Speaker 1: was like a surreal experience. You don't really feel like

1356
01:12:14,520 --> 01:12:17,800
Speaker 1: it seems like everything is in slow motion. It never

1357
01:12:17,840 --> 01:12:21,639
Speaker 1: goes away that feeling because I almost felt like, wait

1358
01:12:21,680 --> 01:12:24,160
Speaker 1: a minute, this isn't really the president. Yeah, it must

1359
01:12:24,160 --> 01:12:26,439
Speaker 1: be a double Yeah. No, that did anyone ever tell

1360
01:12:26,479 --> 01:12:28,880
Speaker 1: you that before. Yes, yes, And I've experienced it myself

1361
01:12:28,920 --> 01:12:31,120
Speaker 1: where it's almost like one one evening, I actually had

1362
01:12:31,120 --> 01:12:35,759
Speaker 1: the opportunity, um to introduce my parents and some family

1363
01:12:35,800 --> 01:12:38,960
Speaker 1: friends to President Clinton and and then we were taking

1364
01:12:38,960 --> 01:12:41,360
Speaker 1: a tour and he was coming back and from the

1365
01:12:41,400 --> 01:12:43,680
Speaker 1: East Side. He was doing some public service announcements and

1366
01:12:43,720 --> 01:12:45,800
Speaker 1: the agents said, hey, we're bringing him over. Just have

1367
01:12:45,880 --> 01:12:48,240
Speaker 1: your family standing here, you know, And he came up

1368
01:12:48,280 --> 01:12:50,360
Speaker 1: and talked to them, and they were just floored and

1369
01:12:50,400 --> 01:12:52,479
Speaker 1: it was great, and it was a great experience. And

1370
01:12:52,479 --> 01:12:54,639
Speaker 1: it's one of those things when I talked about having

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01:12:54,680 --> 01:12:57,360
Speaker 1: a hard time coming out and whatever pushed me forward

1372
01:12:57,360 --> 01:12:59,479
Speaker 1: to do this, that was one of those experiences where

1373
01:12:59,479 --> 01:13:02,000
Speaker 1: I felt, you know, I certainly feel like the word

1374
01:13:02,040 --> 01:13:04,680
Speaker 1: betrayed comes in there, but clearly, um, I think it's

1375
01:13:04,720 --> 01:13:06,920
Speaker 1: more important for the American people to know the truth

1376
01:13:06,960 --> 01:13:09,479
Speaker 1: about these And you're ready for what's coming your way

1377
01:13:09,479 --> 01:13:12,320
Speaker 1: out in this interview, I am, And you don't care.

1378
01:13:12,439 --> 01:13:15,000
Speaker 1: You already thought that through. I care, But but you know,

1379
01:13:15,280 --> 01:13:16,800
Speaker 1: when you do the kind of work that I've done,

1380
01:13:16,880 --> 01:13:19,640
Speaker 1: and people that do what I do, you know, you

1381
01:13:19,640 --> 01:13:21,640
Speaker 1: look at your goal and you look what's important, and

1382
01:13:21,680 --> 01:13:23,920
Speaker 1: then you you do, you take the acogen. You think

1383
01:13:23,960 --> 01:13:26,680
Speaker 1: the country needs to know this before they go and

1384
01:13:26,760 --> 01:13:29,400
Speaker 1: vote in November. I do, I absolutely do. So. The

1385
01:13:29,439 --> 01:13:31,880
Speaker 1: person that we know when Hillary Clinton is a phony,

1386
01:13:32,000 --> 01:13:35,000
Speaker 1: it is a it is a mirage. It's not real, No,

1387
01:13:35,560 --> 01:13:40,840
Speaker 1: it is, it's a it's a carefully manufactured political basically,

1388
01:13:40,960 --> 01:13:44,639
Speaker 1: it's not even cashually carefully manufactured. If you really pay

1389
01:13:44,680 --> 01:13:50,640
Speaker 1: attention and you're not completely um um, a Democrat or

1390
01:13:50,920 --> 01:13:55,160
Speaker 1: a Clinton uh follower, you see these things I'm talking about.

1391
01:13:55,200 --> 01:13:57,720
Speaker 1: You know it's true. You see the ages, You've you've

1392
01:13:57,760 --> 01:14:00,559
Speaker 1: heard these stories. And if somebody the does what I

1393
01:14:00,600 --> 01:14:03,000
Speaker 1: did and is taking the risk, you know, I'm not

1394
01:14:03,040 --> 01:14:05,479
Speaker 1: taking this risk for any other reason but the truth.

1395
01:14:06,120 --> 01:14:07,640
Speaker 1: You know, by the time this is all over with,

1396
01:14:07,680 --> 01:14:09,800
Speaker 1: who knows what's going to be left to me so

1397
01:14:09,880 --> 01:14:13,280
Speaker 1: to speak. So um, but I think it's important people

1398
01:14:13,320 --> 01:14:17,400
Speaker 1: need to know this, and um um, you know, if

1399
01:14:17,439 --> 01:14:21,000
Speaker 1: what I've done is really not right, well then I'll

1400
01:14:21,000 --> 01:14:23,479
Speaker 1: deal with that someday when I'm judging, you know. Uh

1401
01:14:23,479 --> 01:14:26,519
Speaker 1: in Evan so well, the book is phenomenal. I couldn't

1402
01:14:26,560 --> 01:14:29,320
Speaker 1: put it down, honestly, I opened it up this weekend

1403
01:14:29,320 --> 01:14:31,240
Speaker 1: and I'm like half of sleep, but I'm still reading it.

1404
01:14:31,280 --> 01:14:33,479
Speaker 1: You know, we're fighting sleep and reading a book. You

1405
01:14:33,840 --> 01:14:36,680
Speaker 1: like we wrote some of it like that. Crisis of

1406
01:14:36,760 --> 01:14:38,800
Speaker 1: Character is the name of the book. A White House

1407
01:14:38,840 --> 01:14:42,439
Speaker 1: Secret Service officer discloses his firsthand experience with Hillary Bill

1408
01:14:42,479 --> 01:14:45,160
Speaker 1: and how they operate. He'll join us on Hannity tonight

1409
01:14:45,240 --> 01:14:48,240
Speaker 1: at ten. The book is available on Amazon dot com,

1410
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Speaker 1: Hannity dot Com, and as of today at tomorrow tomorrow

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Speaker 1: the latest in bookstores all around the country. Gary number one,

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Speaker 1: Thank you for your service. You are one of the

1413
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Speaker 1: guys that makes the country great, and you served your

1414
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Speaker 1: country with real honor and distinction. And I think what

1415
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Speaker 1: you're doing here is a public service, although the Hillary people,

1416
01:15:07,040 --> 01:15:09,880
Speaker 1: I'm sure we won't view it that way. Um. Anyway,

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Speaker 1: thanks so much for being with us. Look forward to

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Speaker 1: seeing you tonight. Thank you for having me. Hey, listen,

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Speaker 1: Senator Mike Lee is with us as we continue as

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Speaker 1: our friends. Senator Mike Lee of Utah. By the way,

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Speaker 1: he just released a paperback version of his book Our

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Speaker 1: Lost Constitution, The Willful Subversion of America's Founding Document, And uh, welcome, sir,

1447
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Speaker 1: how are you doing great, Sean? Thank you very much. Um.

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Speaker 1: You know what, were you surprised when Donald Trump put

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Speaker 1: your brother's name on his list of potential Supreme Court nominees.

1450
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Speaker 1: I was very pleased, and when he put my brother's

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Speaker 1: name on it, and I was pleased at the list

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Speaker 1: as a whole. I mean, I love that list, not

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01:16:46,520 --> 01:16:49,679
Speaker 1: just because of my brother's name, although he is particularly awesome,

1454
01:16:50,240 --> 01:16:53,679
Speaker 1: but every name on that list, uh, was a great one.

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Speaker 1: And this is probably the best Supreme Court list I've

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Speaker 1: ever seen put forward by a Republican presidential candidate. I

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01:17:00,320 --> 01:17:05,080
Speaker 1: am angry that some Republicans like Paul Ryan and Lindsey Graham,

1458
01:17:05,160 --> 01:17:08,040
Speaker 1: basically it seemed to be doing everything they can do

1459
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Speaker 1: to sabotage Donald Trump's chances. Am I wrown. Well, Look,

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Speaker 1: I I do think we need to focus as a

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Speaker 1: party on finding a path towards coming together. I understand

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01:17:19,040 --> 01:17:21,720
Speaker 1: that their differences of opinion within the party, but we've

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Speaker 1: got to find ways to reconcile those and to move forward. Um,

1464
01:17:26,800 --> 01:17:29,960
Speaker 1: I don't want to see a president Hillary Clinton scorn

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01:17:30,000 --> 01:17:33,160
Speaker 1: into office in January. Well, I don't want to see

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Speaker 1: it either. And what I don't understand is the very tepid,

1467
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Speaker 1: timid support from people in Washington. And I'm pretty piste

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Speaker 1: off about it, because you know, Donald Trump was the

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Speaker 1: one that was pressured this. You know, he was the

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Speaker 1: only guy in the first debate that wouldn't raise his

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Speaker 1: hand and with the pledge of loyalty, and then the

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Speaker 1: full brunt of every Republican came down on him. If

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Speaker 1: you're gonna run, you've got a pledge you'll support the

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Speaker 1: eventual winner. And now he wins. And now people like

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01:17:59,120 --> 01:18:02,519
Speaker 1: all Governor bull Ohan, others, Lindsey Graham, now they're not

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01:18:02,600 --> 01:18:05,360
Speaker 1: standing by their promise. Why is that? I'm not sure.

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Speaker 1: You know, I'm always careful not to speak for anybody else,

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Speaker 1: including another officeholder, so they'll have to answer that on

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01:18:11,479 --> 01:18:13,839
Speaker 1: their own. I know that there have been some concerns

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01:18:13,880 --> 01:18:17,479
Speaker 1: expressed by some Republicans I've heard from their not sure

1481
01:18:18,880 --> 01:18:23,680
Speaker 1: how Donald Trump would end up behaving under certain circumstances,

1482
01:18:23,680 --> 01:18:26,080
Speaker 1: whether he might end up being an authoritarian somebody would

1483
01:18:26,080 --> 01:18:29,200
Speaker 1: wield executive orders to liberally. There was an article in

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01:18:29,240 --> 01:18:32,439
Speaker 1: Bloomberg today, uh, speculating about some of those things. And

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01:18:32,479 --> 01:18:34,519
Speaker 1: so I think this is an opportunity for Mr Trump

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01:18:34,520 --> 01:18:37,639
Speaker 1: to come out. And why did you say he scares

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Speaker 1: you to death? Um? You know, I had at the

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01:18:41,200 --> 01:18:43,360
Speaker 1: time I made that comment. I have been campaigning with

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01:18:43,400 --> 01:18:47,320
Speaker 1: my friend Ted Cruz for a number of weeks, and

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01:18:47,479 --> 01:18:50,280
Speaker 1: at the time that happened, Uh, Tom, that statement had

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01:18:50,320 --> 01:18:53,040
Speaker 1: been made. You've been making a number of statements about

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01:18:53,040 --> 01:18:56,840
Speaker 1: my friend Ted that I found concerning and so, um.

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01:18:57,240 --> 01:18:59,240
Speaker 1: Now I interviewed both of them at the time, and

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01:18:59,280 --> 01:19:02,200
Speaker 1: they were both on at each other pretty hard. And

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01:19:02,800 --> 01:19:05,720
Speaker 1: you know, for example, here's I've interviewed Trump as much

1496
01:19:05,720 --> 01:19:09,040
Speaker 1: as anybody, and here's what I think is agenda is alright,

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01:19:09,080 --> 01:19:12,120
Speaker 1: he named his Supreme Court justices. That that's there. He's

1498
01:19:12,160 --> 01:19:15,080
Speaker 1: been very clear about energy and dependence that means coal

1499
01:19:15,160 --> 01:19:18,680
Speaker 1: and fracking and drilling and nuclear and new technology. I've

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01:19:18,720 --> 01:19:22,439
Speaker 1: asked him probably fifty times. He's very clear about getting

1501
01:19:22,479 --> 01:19:26,720
Speaker 1: rid of Obamacare, leaning towards health savings accounts. He even

1502
01:19:26,800 --> 01:19:29,200
Speaker 1: likes the Penny Plan, which I pushed for years and

1503
01:19:29,200 --> 01:19:31,280
Speaker 1: and has talked at length about the need to balance

1504
01:19:31,320 --> 01:19:34,759
Speaker 1: a budget, to fix the v A, UH, to build

1505
01:19:34,840 --> 01:19:38,240
Speaker 1: up our military as a deterrence, to build the wall, UH,

1506
01:19:38,280 --> 01:19:41,080
Speaker 1: to not let in refugees from countries if we can

1507
01:19:41,200 --> 01:19:44,400
Speaker 1: vet people. That seems like a pretty conservative Mike Lee

1508
01:19:44,520 --> 01:19:47,360
Speaker 1: kind of agenda. Sure, And there's a whole lot more

1509
01:19:47,360 --> 01:19:49,680
Speaker 1: in there that did I did I life, and I'm

1510
01:19:49,720 --> 01:19:51,439
Speaker 1: ever going to find out of Hillary Clinton. And that's

1511
01:19:51,439 --> 01:19:52,960
Speaker 1: one of the reasons why I maintained we've got to

1512
01:19:53,000 --> 01:19:57,639
Speaker 1: make sure that she's not our president. And UH. I

1513
01:19:57,680 --> 01:20:00,639
Speaker 1: think there is a path forward here in which Mr

1514
01:20:00,640 --> 01:20:04,479
Speaker 1: Trump can rally a lot more people behind him if

1515
01:20:04,560 --> 01:20:10,920
Speaker 1: he embraces a conservative reform agenda based on the structural

1516
01:20:10,960 --> 01:20:14,160
Speaker 1: protections of the Constitution, if he becomes an outspoken advocate

1517
01:20:14,680 --> 01:20:18,000
Speaker 1: for actually eight separation of powers. He talked about that

1518
01:20:18,040 --> 01:20:19,880
Speaker 1: at length in his speech last week. Were you happy

1519
01:20:19,920 --> 01:20:22,320
Speaker 1: with those remarks? Yeah, I'm happy that he seems to

1520
01:20:22,360 --> 01:20:24,320
Speaker 1: be talking more in that direction. The more of that

1521
01:20:24,400 --> 01:20:25,960
Speaker 1: we can hear from him, I think the better off

1522
01:20:26,000 --> 01:20:28,320
Speaker 1: he's going to be. Because you know, as as I

1523
01:20:28,360 --> 01:20:30,920
Speaker 1: explained in my book, Our Lost Constitution, I think the

1524
01:20:31,080 --> 01:20:34,320
Speaker 1: country has drifted substantially over the last eighty years away

1525
01:20:34,360 --> 01:20:38,240
Speaker 1: from these twin fundamental protections in the Constitution, federalism that

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01:20:38,280 --> 01:20:41,439
Speaker 1: tells us to govern locally and separation of powers, which

1527
01:20:41,479 --> 01:20:43,720
Speaker 1: tells us that, you know, Congress is supposed to make

1528
01:20:43,760 --> 01:20:46,360
Speaker 1: the law, the president is supposed to enforce the law. Well,

1529
01:20:46,360 --> 01:20:48,960
Speaker 1: that's what the Supreme Court ruled last week on the

1530
01:20:49,000 --> 01:20:54,080
Speaker 1: issue of Obama's illegal, unconstitutional executive amnesty, which, by the way,

1531
01:20:54,439 --> 01:20:56,599
Speaker 1: just like Obamacare. I don't think either one of those

1532
01:20:56,640 --> 01:20:58,519
Speaker 1: issues should have even made it to the courts. I

1533
01:20:58,560 --> 01:21:01,559
Speaker 1: think Republicans being timid, they were unwilling to use the

1534
01:21:01,560 --> 01:21:04,720
Speaker 1: power in the purse in both the instances which they

1535
01:21:04,720 --> 01:21:07,960
Speaker 1: would have had the ability to dismantle parts of Obamacare

1536
01:21:08,280 --> 01:21:10,840
Speaker 1: which would have rendered it impotent. They would have had

1537
01:21:10,880 --> 01:21:14,479
Speaker 1: the ability to defund the Department of Homeland Security like

1538
01:21:14,560 --> 01:21:17,240
Speaker 1: they promised, and then they passed the Chromlebous Bill. Don't

1539
01:21:17,240 --> 01:21:20,519
Speaker 1: you think that's led to the rise of people like Trump. Yes,

1540
01:21:20,640 --> 01:21:23,679
Speaker 1: yes I do. And in fact, the arguments you're making

1541
01:21:23,880 --> 01:21:26,040
Speaker 1: that lead me to believe you must have been reading

1542
01:21:26,080 --> 01:21:29,439
Speaker 1: our lost Constitution, because these are very similar to the

1543
01:21:29,520 --> 01:21:32,759
Speaker 1: arguments I make in my book, which are that uh.

1544
01:21:32,840 --> 01:21:34,760
Speaker 1: Even though it's great when the Supreme Court is able

1545
01:21:34,800 --> 01:21:36,240
Speaker 1: to step in from time to time and say no,

1546
01:21:36,360 --> 01:21:39,320
Speaker 1: the President overstepped here or there. Most of the time,

1547
01:21:39,320 --> 01:21:40,800
Speaker 1: I shouldn't get that far. And most of the time

1548
01:21:40,800 --> 01:21:42,920
Speaker 1: when the Court does that, for every one instance where

1549
01:21:42,920 --> 01:21:45,280
Speaker 1: the Court steps in, there might be a hundred that

1550
01:21:45,400 --> 01:21:47,759
Speaker 1: don't get challenged, or that for one reason or another,

1551
01:21:48,160 --> 01:21:50,760
Speaker 1: have some jurisdictional problem such that they can't make it

1552
01:21:50,800 --> 01:21:53,439
Speaker 1: all the way to the Supreme Court. Uh. Congress has

1553
01:21:53,439 --> 01:21:56,600
Speaker 1: got to start taking the Constitution seriously enough so that

1554
01:21:56,640 --> 01:22:02,719
Speaker 1: Congress itself addresses constitutional were succeeded their power, haven't they. Yes,

1555
01:22:02,880 --> 01:22:05,160
Speaker 1: Over the course of the last eighty years, as I

1556
01:22:05,160 --> 01:22:08,599
Speaker 1: explained in my book, Congress has delegated the lawmaking power

1557
01:22:09,040 --> 01:22:12,400
Speaker 1: such that, as I explained in our loss Constitution, I've

1558
01:22:12,439 --> 01:22:14,599
Speaker 1: got these two stacks of documents in my office. One

1559
01:22:14,680 --> 01:22:17,320
Speaker 1: is eighty thousand pages long and eleven feet tall. The

1560
01:22:17,360 --> 01:22:19,160
Speaker 1: other is a few inches tall and a few hundred

1561
01:22:19,160 --> 01:22:22,000
Speaker 1: pages long. The short stack of documents or the laws

1562
01:22:22,000 --> 01:22:25,200
Speaker 1: passed by Congress last year. The long stack eighty thousand pages.

1563
01:22:25,240 --> 01:22:30,440
Speaker 1: Those are the federal regulations issued last year. So uh,

1564
01:22:30,680 --> 01:22:34,519
Speaker 1: Congress is making a lot less law and is impacting

1565
01:22:34,520 --> 01:22:38,200
Speaker 1: the economy a lot less than these than these executive

1566
01:22:38,200 --> 01:22:42,200
Speaker 1: branch bureaucrats who never stand for election, are not accountable

1567
01:22:42,240 --> 01:22:44,560
Speaker 1: to the people, and yet are making so much of

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01:22:44,600 --> 01:22:46,960
Speaker 1: the law of that's costing the American people two trillion

1569
01:22:46,960 --> 01:22:49,680
Speaker 1: dollars a year, making every one of us poorer, particularly

1570
01:22:49,720 --> 01:22:53,639
Speaker 1: the poorer middle class. Well, all the numbers bear that out. Um,

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01:22:53,960 --> 01:22:57,280
Speaker 1: I'm just I guess what's frustrating to me. I'm trying

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01:22:57,280 --> 01:23:00,519
Speaker 1: to understand. If Donald Trump has said old these things,

1573
01:23:00,600 --> 01:23:06,160
Speaker 1: why is there this real, mysterious resistance towards him. You know,

1574
01:23:06,240 --> 01:23:09,040
Speaker 1: we saw with the Brexit vote last week in Great

1575
01:23:09,040 --> 01:23:12,280
Speaker 1: Britain there there certainly is a feeling among Americans that

1576
01:23:12,360 --> 01:23:16,519
Speaker 1: we have been too globally oriented. I think people look

1577
01:23:16,560 --> 01:23:19,479
Speaker 1: at the last Iraq War and they see, just like Vietnam,

1578
01:23:19,600 --> 01:23:22,280
Speaker 1: we keep politicizing wars. We send men and women to

1579
01:23:22,320 --> 01:23:24,280
Speaker 1: go fight and die and give up their limbs, and

1580
01:23:24,320 --> 01:23:26,640
Speaker 1: they do it, and they win, and then we we

1581
01:23:26,760 --> 01:23:29,800
Speaker 1: literally robbed them of their victory again. And I think

1582
01:23:30,040 --> 01:23:32,240
Speaker 1: and the issue of trade and some of these other issues.

1583
01:23:32,280 --> 01:23:34,439
Speaker 1: I'm a free trader, but I'm also a fair trader,

1584
01:23:34,720 --> 01:23:37,479
Speaker 1: and I think Americans are losing jobs because you know,

1585
01:23:37,520 --> 01:23:40,759
Speaker 1: a lot of American companies want to sort of send

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01:23:40,760 --> 01:23:43,640
Speaker 1: off their their labor costs and reduce them dramatically by

1587
01:23:43,640 --> 01:23:47,000
Speaker 1: sending them to poor countries. Right. And you know, we

1588
01:23:47,040 --> 01:23:48,679
Speaker 1: don't get we don't even get a chance to sell

1589
01:23:48,720 --> 01:23:53,400
Speaker 1: our automobiles in Japan without a a really ridiculously high tax,

1590
01:23:54,600 --> 01:23:57,840
Speaker 1: right and and and as I reviewed that exit poll

1591
01:23:58,000 --> 01:24:03,000
Speaker 1: data it was released day after the vote, I became

1592
01:24:03,000 --> 01:24:05,479
Speaker 1: more and more convinced that regardless of what issue people

1593
01:24:05,560 --> 01:24:09,440
Speaker 1: identified as the single most important political issue, the unifying

1594
01:24:09,479 --> 01:24:12,040
Speaker 1: theme behind those who were voting to exit the European

1595
01:24:12,160 --> 01:24:16,000
Speaker 1: Union was that they didn't like where their decisions were

1596
01:24:16,000 --> 01:24:18,879
Speaker 1: being made. So for some, for instance, it was about immigration.

1597
01:24:18,880 --> 01:24:20,800
Speaker 1: For others, maybe it was about trade, for others, it

1598
01:24:20,880 --> 01:24:26,519
Speaker 1: was uh several issues in combination, but the unifying uh

1599
01:24:26,760 --> 01:24:30,280
Speaker 1: theme behind the vote of basically everyone who voted to

1600
01:24:30,320 --> 01:24:33,800
Speaker 1: exit was they didn't like their decisions being made by

1601
01:24:33,840 --> 01:24:39,880
Speaker 1: a centralized, increasingly bureaucratic authority that was not accountable to

1602
01:24:39,880 --> 01:24:43,439
Speaker 1: the people because those making the policy were not ever

1603
01:24:43,520 --> 01:24:47,639
Speaker 1: subject to election. And so while those are distinct decisions,

1604
01:24:47,680 --> 01:24:50,000
Speaker 1: there are some unifying themes with what we're seeing here

1605
01:24:50,000 --> 01:24:53,600
Speaker 1: in the United States, the American people are understandably frustrated

1606
01:24:53,640 --> 01:24:56,920
Speaker 1: with the fact that they are increasingly subject to these

1607
01:24:57,000 --> 01:25:00,639
Speaker 1: laws made by unelected, unaccountable bureaucrats who was well intentioned

1608
01:25:00,680 --> 01:25:03,360
Speaker 1: as they might be, will never stand for election, and

1609
01:25:03,439 --> 01:25:05,760
Speaker 1: so they're they're not accountable to the people in the

1610
01:25:05,800 --> 01:25:08,360
Speaker 1: same way that members of Congress are. But for that

1611
01:25:08,400 --> 01:25:10,120
Speaker 1: to work, you've got to have members of Congress who

1612
01:25:10,160 --> 01:25:14,080
Speaker 1: are willing and even eager to exercise their constitutional authority

1613
01:25:14,120 --> 01:25:18,280
Speaker 1: even when it's difficult. Well, John Baynard accumulated while speaker

1614
01:25:18,360 --> 01:25:21,479
Speaker 1: nearly five trillion in new debt. That doesn't sound you know,

1615
01:25:21,560 --> 01:25:25,080
Speaker 1: that's the incredibly shrinking Congress that you talk about running

1616
01:25:25,120 --> 01:25:28,880
Speaker 1: from their constitutional authority and duty. But the same was

1617
01:25:28,920 --> 01:25:32,800
Speaker 1: with Obamacare, the same was with illegal, unconstitutional immigration. And

1618
01:25:32,880 --> 01:25:35,720
Speaker 1: let's be frank here. I think the reason that Congress

1619
01:25:36,040 --> 01:25:39,479
Speaker 1: is has the lowest approval numbers ever is because they've

1620
01:25:39,520 --> 01:25:42,559
Speaker 1: earned it, and they've been unwilling to fight their fear

1621
01:25:42,680 --> 01:25:45,519
Speaker 1: and their timidity when it comes to standing on their

1622
01:25:45,520 --> 01:25:49,240
Speaker 1: principles is non existent. Well, I think that's right, and

1623
01:25:49,240 --> 01:25:52,519
Speaker 1: I think it has become too common a theme for

1624
01:25:52,640 --> 01:25:55,760
Speaker 1: members of Congress to care more about their ability to

1625
01:25:55,880 --> 01:25:59,160
Speaker 1: seek and obtain perpetual re election than they are about

1626
01:25:59,160 --> 01:26:02,280
Speaker 1: performing their custom usual obligation. The fact is shown the

1627
01:26:02,280 --> 01:26:05,200
Speaker 1: the legislative power is a non delegable power. It's something

1628
01:26:05,240 --> 01:26:07,720
Speaker 1: that we're not supposed to be able to delegate to

1629
01:26:07,800 --> 01:26:10,680
Speaker 1: the executive branch. And that is exactly what we've been

1630
01:26:10,720 --> 01:26:14,680
Speaker 1: doing now for decades. Uh. You look at laws like

1631
01:26:14,680 --> 01:26:17,640
Speaker 1: Obamacare and Dodd Frank, each of which contained hundreds and

1632
01:26:17,760 --> 01:26:23,360
Speaker 1: hundreds of individual delegations of power to an executive branch agency,

1633
01:26:23,439 --> 01:26:26,439
Speaker 1: and everything that happens thereafter is in the complete control

1634
01:26:26,479 --> 01:26:29,479
Speaker 1: of the executive branch agency, especially when you've got a

1635
01:26:29,520 --> 01:26:33,519
Speaker 1: Congress that doesn't withhold spending, doesn't withhold funding. Using Congress

1636
01:26:33,560 --> 01:26:37,160
Speaker 1: is spending power that becomes an unchecked power within the

1637
01:26:37,200 --> 01:26:39,720
Speaker 1: executive Tell me if this is a true perception on

1638
01:26:39,760 --> 01:26:42,920
Speaker 1: my part, I look at Congress now as more willing

1639
01:26:42,960 --> 01:26:46,200
Speaker 1: to be outspoken against Donald Trump than they are against

1640
01:26:46,240 --> 01:26:49,479
Speaker 1: Hillery or the Obama agenda. True or false? Well, I

1641
01:26:49,520 --> 01:26:52,160
Speaker 1: wouldn't say that every member of Congress, Uh, alright, the

1642
01:26:52,720 --> 01:26:56,160
Speaker 1: vast majority. I would say there are certainly some who

1643
01:26:56,200 --> 01:26:59,880
Speaker 1: fit into that category. Um and um, you know I

1644
01:27:01,120 --> 01:27:03,960
Speaker 1: certainly think we need to be expressing agreement where agreement

1645
01:27:04,000 --> 01:27:05,840
Speaker 1: has had. We need to be looking for ways to

1646
01:27:05,920 --> 01:27:08,759
Speaker 1: unify the party whenever we can. Yeah, I think so.

1647
01:27:08,760 --> 01:27:12,519
Speaker 1: So tell us about where people can get your Well,

1648
01:27:12,560 --> 01:27:14,760
Speaker 1: you can buy our Lost Constitution on Amazon, you can

1649
01:27:14,800 --> 01:27:17,120
Speaker 1: buy it at Barnes and Noble. Um, you can buy

1650
01:27:17,160 --> 01:27:21,920
Speaker 1: it a number of retail brick and mortar locations as well.

1651
01:27:22,360 --> 01:27:26,160
Speaker 1: But this is uhh, this is an affordable version of

1652
01:27:26,240 --> 01:27:28,599
Speaker 1: this book. It's a it's cheaper because it's a paperback,

1653
01:27:28,640 --> 01:27:31,360
Speaker 1: but it's a great book. And uh it's a book

1654
01:27:31,400 --> 01:27:34,240
Speaker 1: that can help you answer questions, whether it's around the

1655
01:27:34,240 --> 01:27:37,799
Speaker 1: watercolor or around the dinner table. Um. You can answer

1656
01:27:37,880 --> 01:27:40,439
Speaker 1: questions to people about key provisions of the Constitution that

1657
01:27:40,479 --> 01:27:44,920
Speaker 1: have been neglected. The book also contains um stories telling

1658
01:27:45,000 --> 01:27:47,920
Speaker 1: us where some of these provisions came from, why they're

1659
01:27:47,920 --> 01:27:51,519
Speaker 1: so important, And it contains a detailed analysis of how

1660
01:27:51,600 --> 01:27:55,840
Speaker 1: we can uh discern whether a particular candidate for federal office,

1661
01:27:55,840 --> 01:28:00,000
Speaker 1: whether somebody running for president or Senate or Congress, uh

1662
01:28:00,320 --> 01:28:03,880
Speaker 1: believes in the Constitution and is dedicated to restoring it. Well,

1663
01:28:03,920 --> 01:28:06,519
Speaker 1: I think all those things are important, uh to me.

1664
01:28:06,680 --> 01:28:09,160
Speaker 1: I think the agenda. The Republicans ought to be simple,

1665
01:28:09,240 --> 01:28:13,080
Speaker 1: stop robbing our kids blind, and balance the budget, conservative

1666
01:28:13,160 --> 01:28:16,160
Speaker 1: justices because that's going to impact the country for generations

1667
01:28:16,200 --> 01:28:19,519
Speaker 1: to come. I like health savings accounts, energy and dependent

1668
01:28:19,600 --> 01:28:21,719
Speaker 1: should be a goal that we should be energy independent

1669
01:28:21,760 --> 01:28:24,920
Speaker 1: in four years. Education should go back to the States,

1670
01:28:24,920 --> 01:28:28,360
Speaker 1: and elimination of common core. Secure our borders, fix the

1671
01:28:28,439 --> 01:28:31,320
Speaker 1: v A, which is broken, build up our military, define

1672
01:28:31,960 --> 01:28:34,479
Speaker 1: radical Islam for what it is. And you know, I

1673
01:28:34,720 --> 01:28:36,760
Speaker 1: don't think any of these things are hard, But I

1674
01:28:36,760 --> 01:28:40,960
Speaker 1: don't hear anyone articulating that list that simply in the

1675
01:28:41,000 --> 01:28:45,439
Speaker 1: communication levels very low. Yeah, I think that happens to

1676
01:28:45,479 --> 01:28:47,880
Speaker 1: some extent. I think that the more we can boil

1677
01:28:47,920 --> 01:28:50,200
Speaker 1: things down to their essence, the better off we will be.

1678
01:28:50,280 --> 01:28:52,200
Speaker 1: That's one of the reasons why I've chosen to boil

1679
01:28:52,240 --> 01:28:53,720
Speaker 1: things down the way I do, and which is to

1680
01:28:53,760 --> 01:28:56,040
Speaker 1: say that almost all of our problems within the federal

1681
01:28:56,080 --> 01:28:59,200
Speaker 1: government today can be traced in one way or another

1682
01:28:59,320 --> 01:29:02,400
Speaker 1: to our review result to adhere to these twins structural

1683
01:29:02,439 --> 01:29:06,120
Speaker 1: protections in the Constitution, the vertical protection we call federalism,

1684
01:29:06,120 --> 01:29:08,920
Speaker 1: which tells us to govern locally, and the horizontal protection

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Speaker 1: that we call separation of powers, separation of powers, coequal

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Speaker 1: branches of government. You know anyway, Senator Mike Lee, Our

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Speaker 1: lost Constitution, the wilful subversion of America's founding document. Thank

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Speaker 1: you so sir for being willness. We appreciate it.