1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:05,600 Speaker 1: Now here's a highlight from Coast to Coast am on iHeartRadio. 2 00:00:05,160 --> 00:00:07,880 Speaker 2: And welcome back to Coast to Coast George Nori with you. 3 00:00:08,080 --> 00:00:11,680 Speaker 2: Eric Mantel with us acclaimed jazz musician with his group, 4 00:00:11,720 --> 00:00:16,960 Speaker 2: the Eric Mantel Quartet at Night. Eric Mantel Investigates the Paranormal. 5 00:00:17,680 --> 00:00:20,640 Speaker 2: Eric was invited to perform twice at the White House 6 00:00:20,800 --> 00:00:24,159 Speaker 2: for President Clinton back in nineteen ninety eight and for 7 00:00:24,239 --> 00:00:28,680 Speaker 2: then President Barack Obama in twenty eleven. Interested in the 8 00:00:28,720 --> 00:00:31,840 Speaker 2: paranormal from a very young age, Eric has led the 9 00:00:32,040 --> 00:00:38,600 Speaker 2: Eric Mantel Investigates since twenty sixteen, seeking out strange stories 10 00:00:38,640 --> 00:00:41,680 Speaker 2: to tell, whether it's ghosts, UFO's Bigfoot, or even the 11 00:00:41,760 --> 00:00:45,519 Speaker 2: dog Man. Fans of his music have eagerly followed him 12 00:00:45,520 --> 00:00:49,400 Speaker 2: into the paranormal world as well, and on many investigations, 13 00:00:49,560 --> 00:00:53,400 Speaker 2: Eric and his team have gotten groundbreaking video and captured 14 00:00:53,479 --> 00:00:58,840 Speaker 2: strange pernormal activity. Eric, welcome back. Have you been hey, George? 15 00:00:58,880 --> 00:01:01,160 Speaker 3: I'm doing great, man. You have to thank you for 16 00:01:01,160 --> 00:01:01,840 Speaker 3: having me back. 17 00:01:02,160 --> 00:01:03,800 Speaker 2: And you have a new book. I'll call it Eric 18 00:01:03,880 --> 00:01:05,160 Speaker 2: Mantel Investigates. 19 00:01:06,040 --> 00:01:08,839 Speaker 3: I know, man, I it was a long time coming. 20 00:01:08,880 --> 00:01:10,080 Speaker 1: It was yeah. 21 00:01:10,200 --> 00:01:16,280 Speaker 3: Eric intelling investigates, casebook investigations, encounters, stories and other worldly 22 00:01:16,400 --> 00:01:19,560 Speaker 3: contact and other wise all the stuff, all the stuff 23 00:01:19,600 --> 00:01:22,360 Speaker 3: in that book is true. That you can't write this stuff. 24 00:01:22,360 --> 00:01:26,319 Speaker 2: It just happened and it all flows perfectly. I've got 25 00:01:26,360 --> 00:01:28,560 Speaker 2: your CD by the way, that you send along with 26 00:01:28,640 --> 00:01:30,520 Speaker 2: the book. You guys do a good job. 27 00:01:31,120 --> 00:01:33,040 Speaker 3: Thank you man. Well, I knew you were a jazz 28 00:01:33,080 --> 00:01:34,880 Speaker 3: fan too, so I said, I wanted to send that 29 00:01:34,959 --> 00:01:37,480 Speaker 3: to you. And yeah, we thank you so much. 30 00:01:37,520 --> 00:01:37,800 Speaker 1: We do. 31 00:01:38,240 --> 00:01:40,560 Speaker 3: You know, thirty one years as a band leader, I 32 00:01:40,840 --> 00:01:43,399 Speaker 3: always say in this this group of mine's been together 33 00:01:43,440 --> 00:01:46,480 Speaker 3: twenty of those years. I always say that to my audience. 34 00:01:46,480 --> 00:01:48,440 Speaker 3: We've been together longer than most marriages. 35 00:01:50,440 --> 00:01:52,080 Speaker 1: So how did we still like each other? 36 00:01:52,920 --> 00:01:56,000 Speaker 2: How did you get involved in paranormal investigating from your 37 00:01:56,120 --> 00:01:56,880 Speaker 2: music career? 38 00:01:57,640 --> 00:02:01,840 Speaker 3: Oh? Man, you know, I being an only child, you know, 39 00:02:02,600 --> 00:02:05,440 Speaker 3: my father had so many stories as I was growing 40 00:02:05,520 --> 00:02:09,840 Speaker 3: up of things that he encountered and things here in 41 00:02:09,880 --> 00:02:14,840 Speaker 3: Bucks County, Pennsylvania, where where we're talking from. Bucks County 42 00:02:14,880 --> 00:02:19,880 Speaker 3: has a really rich history of a lot of paranormal activity, 43 00:02:20,320 --> 00:02:23,120 Speaker 3: ghost stories, and even Bigfoot sightings and a lot of 44 00:02:23,200 --> 00:02:26,440 Speaker 3: UFO sightings as well. So I kind of grew up 45 00:02:26,480 --> 00:02:28,960 Speaker 3: with that and that was always in the background, like 46 00:02:29,080 --> 00:02:31,480 Speaker 3: always in the periphery. And then of course, you know, 47 00:02:32,200 --> 00:02:34,280 Speaker 3: when I was like fourteen, I found the music of 48 00:02:34,360 --> 00:02:37,639 Speaker 3: Dave Brubeck, and you know, usually other fourteen year old 49 00:02:37,680 --> 00:02:40,040 Speaker 3: kids were listening to heavy metal and whatnot. I'm listening 50 00:02:40,080 --> 00:02:43,400 Speaker 3: to day Brewed Beck, you know, Oscar Peterson and Duke 51 00:02:43,440 --> 00:02:46,720 Speaker 3: Gallington and all these great cats. And then went into 52 00:02:46,720 --> 00:02:50,320 Speaker 3: the jazz career, but always loved the paranormal and that 53 00:02:50,440 --> 00:02:53,040 Speaker 3: was I was something that was I was always fascinated with. 54 00:02:53,720 --> 00:02:57,840 Speaker 3: And like you said, in twenty sixteen, I was looking 55 00:02:57,840 --> 00:03:00,720 Speaker 3: at a lot of paranormal shows on TV. And I 56 00:03:00,760 --> 00:03:03,120 Speaker 3: had always been a filmmaker too. I was like film 57 00:03:03,160 --> 00:03:06,600 Speaker 3: and editing, and I said, you know, I could do that. 58 00:03:06,720 --> 00:03:09,640 Speaker 3: I could probably do something like that. And we started 59 00:03:09,639 --> 00:03:14,480 Speaker 3: out as Bucks County Paranormal Investigations and quickly changed it 60 00:03:14,520 --> 00:03:16,640 Speaker 3: to Eric and Tell Investigates because we're doing a lot 61 00:03:16,680 --> 00:03:20,160 Speaker 3: of traveling all over the country and it's been an 62 00:03:20,200 --> 00:03:24,280 Speaker 3: incredible journey and we're only getting started. Just some of 63 00:03:24,280 --> 00:03:26,840 Speaker 3: the stuff that we've encountered is so we're still you know, 64 00:03:26,919 --> 00:03:27,919 Speaker 3: wrapping our heads around. 65 00:03:28,639 --> 00:03:32,080 Speaker 2: Do you primarily investigate cryptids and creatures or do you 66 00:03:32,160 --> 00:03:33,920 Speaker 2: touch the ghost stories too? 67 00:03:34,600 --> 00:03:38,880 Speaker 3: Oh, George, we cover it all, man, it's everything. And 68 00:03:39,040 --> 00:03:42,160 Speaker 3: I worked with my He went to high school with me, 69 00:03:42,280 --> 00:03:46,400 Speaker 3: Dominic Seatel. He's our spirit medium, although in high school 70 00:03:46,400 --> 00:03:48,560 Speaker 3: I never knew he was a medium. You know, we 71 00:03:48,640 --> 00:03:51,400 Speaker 3: used to practice martial arts and stuff together, and we 72 00:03:51,480 --> 00:03:54,200 Speaker 3: worked on cars. I had like a seventy one Camaro. 73 00:03:54,360 --> 00:03:58,160 Speaker 3: He still has his nineteen eighty Firebird, and so we 74 00:03:58,240 --> 00:04:00,440 Speaker 3: used to work on cars together. But when he came 75 00:04:00,480 --> 00:04:03,880 Speaker 3: back into the mix back in twenty seventeen, he said, 76 00:04:03,880 --> 00:04:06,160 Speaker 3: you know, I might be good on some of your 77 00:04:06,160 --> 00:04:10,040 Speaker 3: investigations because I'm a spirit medium. And I'm like, wait minute, 78 00:04:10,040 --> 00:04:12,080 Speaker 3: I never knew that. You never told me that. And 79 00:04:12,360 --> 00:04:14,920 Speaker 3: he has been great on it. It's like ninety nine 80 00:04:15,120 --> 00:04:18,159 Speaker 3: percent of the time, right on the money with a 81 00:04:18,200 --> 00:04:20,560 Speaker 3: lot of the stuff that like, I'll get a lot 82 00:04:20,560 --> 00:04:24,039 Speaker 3: of the history from the people that are at these venues, 83 00:04:24,120 --> 00:04:26,280 Speaker 3: whether it's a bed and breakfast or a restaurant or 84 00:04:26,320 --> 00:04:30,400 Speaker 3: an inn, and I'll keep everything to myself as far 85 00:04:30,400 --> 00:04:33,719 Speaker 3: as the paranormal activity goes. And when he comes into 86 00:04:33,760 --> 00:04:37,920 Speaker 3: the location, he goes right to those hotspots. So it's 87 00:04:37,920 --> 00:04:41,800 Speaker 3: amazing to get that on camera and then we can 88 00:04:41,880 --> 00:04:45,599 Speaker 3: confirm what he's sensing to what is actually going on 89 00:04:45,680 --> 00:04:48,120 Speaker 3: as well. So he's kind of giving us a preview 90 00:04:48,200 --> 00:04:51,279 Speaker 3: for what's going on and you know, in what we're 91 00:04:51,279 --> 00:04:53,800 Speaker 3: in store for. So it's been amazing, and we work 92 00:04:53,839 --> 00:04:56,960 Speaker 3: with Julie Krause, who is another psychic medium as well. 93 00:04:57,560 --> 00:05:00,920 Speaker 2: It looks like you've got about seventeen different stories in 94 00:05:00,960 --> 00:05:04,680 Speaker 2: this book. The Eric Mantel investigates where did you get them? 95 00:05:04,680 --> 00:05:05,640 Speaker 2: How did they come to you? 96 00:05:06,640 --> 00:05:10,520 Speaker 3: They well, one was actually the very first story in 97 00:05:10,560 --> 00:05:14,200 Speaker 3: that is something that actually happened, and all of those 98 00:05:14,279 --> 00:05:16,920 Speaker 3: cases that are in the book are cases that we 99 00:05:17,600 --> 00:05:21,080 Speaker 3: have been asked to investigate. I have to make a 100 00:05:21,120 --> 00:05:24,000 Speaker 3: distinction that when I get people calling, like I get 101 00:05:24,000 --> 00:05:26,560 Speaker 3: a lot of people messaging me saying, you know, please 102 00:05:26,600 --> 00:05:29,479 Speaker 3: help us, our house is haunted and and things like that, 103 00:05:29,560 --> 00:05:32,280 Speaker 3: I don't do that. We don't go into people's homes 104 00:05:32,320 --> 00:05:35,760 Speaker 3: and and exercise the demon, so to speak. 105 00:05:35,800 --> 00:05:36,960 Speaker 1: But we will. 106 00:05:37,400 --> 00:05:39,640 Speaker 3: I will refer them to somebody that could go in 107 00:05:39,720 --> 00:05:42,279 Speaker 3: and you know, cleanse the house if need big, you know, 108 00:05:42,440 --> 00:05:45,920 Speaker 3: and and that's that way. But we are Basically, we're 109 00:05:46,000 --> 00:05:49,680 Speaker 3: kind of like a like a paranormal tourism and we're 110 00:05:49,880 --> 00:05:52,240 Speaker 3: we're going into a lot of these investigations and a 111 00:05:52,279 --> 00:05:56,000 Speaker 3: lot of those stories in the book are like bed 112 00:05:56,040 --> 00:05:58,920 Speaker 3: and breakfast. There was an inn, a seventeen fifty nine 113 00:05:59,000 --> 00:06:03,400 Speaker 3: farmhouse that we investigated which has a business attached to it, 114 00:06:03,440 --> 00:06:07,160 Speaker 3: which is an architectural salvage company. And when we did 115 00:06:07,200 --> 00:06:09,720 Speaker 3: this investigation of this farmhouse, the woman in there said 116 00:06:09,720 --> 00:06:14,040 Speaker 3: that her, you know, that there was a spirit in 117 00:06:14,080 --> 00:06:17,400 Speaker 3: the that she felt in the home and she really 118 00:06:17,400 --> 00:06:19,039 Speaker 3: couldn't put her finger on it. She knew it was 119 00:06:19,040 --> 00:06:21,960 Speaker 3: coming from the bedroom upstairs in one of these rooms, 120 00:06:22,440 --> 00:06:24,640 Speaker 3: and you know, so things like that, like we were 121 00:06:24,680 --> 00:06:27,240 Speaker 3: on the investigation and we're in the bedroom where she's 122 00:06:27,240 --> 00:06:32,159 Speaker 3: feeling this energy and she completely had a meltdown on 123 00:06:32,240 --> 00:06:34,960 Speaker 3: camera because it was like she got bum rushed by 124 00:06:34,960 --> 00:06:37,640 Speaker 3: the spirit that was in there. So things just and 125 00:06:38,200 --> 00:06:41,359 Speaker 3: like my show is completely unscripted. It's, you know, whatever 126 00:06:41,520 --> 00:06:45,080 Speaker 3: whatever is going on, we're capturing that on video, whether 127 00:06:45,120 --> 00:06:48,480 Speaker 3: it's ghosts or when we were out in Elkhorn, Wisconsin 128 00:06:49,040 --> 00:06:52,280 Speaker 3: investigating the Beast of Prey Road and capturing what we 129 00:06:52,320 --> 00:06:55,720 Speaker 3: captured on video there and Bigfoot in the New Jersey 130 00:06:55,720 --> 00:06:58,400 Speaker 3: Pine barrens. So I captured what I did was in 131 00:06:58,440 --> 00:07:01,320 Speaker 3: the book. I kind of like reiterated and kind of 132 00:07:01,320 --> 00:07:06,600 Speaker 3: recap what those like in short form, what those investigations 133 00:07:06,640 --> 00:07:09,119 Speaker 3: were like, and what actually happened on the on the 134 00:07:09,160 --> 00:07:13,840 Speaker 3: investigations and what we captured on video truly remarkable. 135 00:07:13,920 --> 00:07:16,920 Speaker 2: Have you ever been scared on a paranormal investigation? 136 00:07:18,440 --> 00:07:20,920 Speaker 3: You know, it's it's funny. I just was talking to 137 00:07:20,960 --> 00:07:24,200 Speaker 3: somebody about this, and it's when we had the encounter 138 00:07:24,280 --> 00:07:26,160 Speaker 3: with the Beast of Bray Road now the Beast of 139 00:07:26,160 --> 00:07:28,800 Speaker 3: Bray Road for your listeners, and I'm sure they know this, 140 00:07:28,920 --> 00:07:32,520 Speaker 3: but it's a supposed to be an upright canine on 141 00:07:32,920 --> 00:07:36,200 Speaker 3: that walks on two legs and that has red glowing 142 00:07:36,200 --> 00:07:39,160 Speaker 3: eyes or yellow glowing eyes, and people have seen this 143 00:07:39,320 --> 00:07:43,640 Speaker 3: for years. So when we're on that investigation, and I 144 00:07:43,760 --> 00:07:46,200 Speaker 3: had gone out there thinking that we weren't really going 145 00:07:46,280 --> 00:07:47,960 Speaker 3: to see anything. I just thought that we were going 146 00:07:48,000 --> 00:07:50,560 Speaker 3: to have, you know, great documentary. We're going to talk 147 00:07:50,600 --> 00:07:54,600 Speaker 3: to some great people and get this really great documentary happening, 148 00:07:54,960 --> 00:07:58,560 Speaker 3: never thinking once that we'd actually encountered this thing. And 149 00:07:58,760 --> 00:08:01,040 Speaker 3: the Night of October third. And I know I've said 150 00:08:01,080 --> 00:08:04,080 Speaker 3: this before, but it's just some something that I'll never 151 00:08:04,160 --> 00:08:07,720 Speaker 3: forget because my whole world changed that night when we 152 00:08:07,800 --> 00:08:10,920 Speaker 3: heard this thing and that made a sound, that made 153 00:08:10,960 --> 00:08:13,240 Speaker 3: a howl, that sounded like a man screaming in this 154 00:08:13,320 --> 00:08:15,440 Speaker 3: field that we were in. It was this like low 155 00:08:15,560 --> 00:08:20,520 Speaker 3: guttural scream, growl yell combination. And the fear factor was 156 00:08:20,520 --> 00:08:23,120 Speaker 3: there of like what are we hearing? You know? It 157 00:08:23,160 --> 00:08:26,160 Speaker 3: was like we were kind of stunned. And then what 158 00:08:26,360 --> 00:08:29,040 Speaker 3: really got me? And then what and again, George, we 159 00:08:29,120 --> 00:08:32,000 Speaker 3: had no protection either. We had like a flashlight and 160 00:08:32,040 --> 00:08:34,960 Speaker 3: a radio, that was it. But what really got me 161 00:08:35,080 --> 00:08:37,400 Speaker 3: was when Dominic said, and Dominic was with us on 162 00:08:37,440 --> 00:08:41,520 Speaker 3: this investigation as well, he said, shine the light over 163 00:08:41,600 --> 00:08:45,640 Speaker 3: to where we just heard the hell We shined it 164 00:08:45,679 --> 00:08:49,880 Speaker 3: over into the corn and there's two yellow eyes about 165 00:08:49,920 --> 00:08:53,920 Speaker 3: seven feet up in the corn, darting back and forth, yeah, 166 00:08:54,040 --> 00:08:56,520 Speaker 3: looking at us, And like that was when I said, Okay, 167 00:08:56,720 --> 00:08:59,559 Speaker 3: we're out of here. I said, and was basically saying, 168 00:08:59,800 --> 00:09:03,160 Speaker 3: this is my territory. Get out of here. And so 169 00:09:03,200 --> 00:09:05,440 Speaker 3: we hopped on the four wheelers and got back up 170 00:09:06,000 --> 00:09:09,000 Speaker 3: up to Lee Hample's farm and we got back to 171 00:09:09,040 --> 00:09:11,280 Speaker 3: the bar, and Lee couldn't believe we were back so soon. 172 00:09:11,320 --> 00:09:15,120 Speaker 3: But so things like that, you know, it's not so 173 00:09:15,240 --> 00:09:19,240 Speaker 3: much scared, it's like the the I guess you could 174 00:09:19,240 --> 00:09:22,080 Speaker 3: say it's scared, but I wasn't scared, per se. I 175 00:09:22,160 --> 00:09:24,800 Speaker 3: was more curious, like, you know, what is this thing? 176 00:09:24,840 --> 00:09:27,520 Speaker 3: What are we hearing? And you know, and you go 177 00:09:27,600 --> 00:09:29,760 Speaker 3: to a point of like trying to figure out what 178 00:09:29,800 --> 00:09:32,760 Speaker 3: it is. And when you cross that one line where 179 00:09:32,800 --> 00:09:36,080 Speaker 3: you think, Okay, now we're getting into some territory. Who 180 00:09:36,120 --> 00:09:38,320 Speaker 3: knows what this thing is going to do. I'm not 181 00:09:38,400 --> 00:09:40,760 Speaker 3: going to go there because look again, we had nothing 182 00:09:40,800 --> 00:09:44,120 Speaker 3: to protect ourselves. And I've had other people call, you know, 183 00:09:44,280 --> 00:09:46,800 Speaker 3: message me and say you definitely need to get out there, 184 00:09:46,800 --> 00:09:49,120 Speaker 3: and next time you do that, you have to have protection. 185 00:09:49,280 --> 00:09:54,400 Speaker 3: And so you know, it was just a crazy, crazy night. 186 00:09:54,440 --> 00:09:58,439 Speaker 3: And then after that, a week later, after that Elkhorne investigation, 187 00:09:58,559 --> 00:10:01,800 Speaker 3: we did the U Bigfoot in the New Jersey Pine 188 00:10:01,800 --> 00:10:04,679 Speaker 3: Barns because we were getting a lot of reports of 189 00:10:04,800 --> 00:10:08,400 Speaker 3: that bigfoot researcher that I know, Eric Spinner and his 190 00:10:08,880 --> 00:10:14,440 Speaker 3: partner aren't Mack. They do incredible research of bigfoot in 191 00:10:14,480 --> 00:10:17,640 Speaker 3: the New Jersey Pine barons. No people will associate the 192 00:10:17,640 --> 00:10:21,280 Speaker 3: Pine barrens with the Jersey Devil, But the Jersey Devil 193 00:10:21,559 --> 00:10:26,320 Speaker 3: is I think is a misidentification of bigfoot because you know, 194 00:10:26,360 --> 00:10:29,160 Speaker 3: there's always been inconsistent reports with the Jersey Devil. It's 195 00:10:29,200 --> 00:10:32,400 Speaker 3: either a big wings type horse or you know, it 196 00:10:32,400 --> 00:10:35,200 Speaker 3: could be small as small as a turkey or as 197 00:10:35,520 --> 00:10:37,960 Speaker 3: you know, like a medium sized dog. So the reports 198 00:10:37,960 --> 00:10:42,240 Speaker 3: are inconsistent sometimes. But people have been seeing these creatures 199 00:10:42,280 --> 00:10:47,200 Speaker 3: going in neighborhoods on two legs, getting the garbage and 200 00:10:47,240 --> 00:10:50,160 Speaker 3: bringing it back out into the woods. So there had 201 00:10:50,160 --> 00:10:53,440 Speaker 3: been and they range in sizes from like you know, 202 00:10:53,559 --> 00:10:57,040 Speaker 3: four and a half five feet seven feet, so there's 203 00:10:57,080 --> 00:10:59,360 Speaker 3: been a lot of juvenile bigfoot sighting. So we went 204 00:10:59,400 --> 00:11:04,520 Speaker 3: down there and did an investigation, and again it was like, no, 205 00:11:04,679 --> 00:11:06,880 Speaker 3: sooner do we get there. Of twenty minutes into it, 206 00:11:07,400 --> 00:11:11,480 Speaker 3: we're getting whoops and hollers in the woods. And if 207 00:11:11,480 --> 00:11:14,560 Speaker 3: people know anything about the Pine barrens, it's thousands and 208 00:11:14,679 --> 00:11:19,839 Speaker 3: thousands of acres of just dnse bars. And we were 209 00:11:19,880 --> 00:11:23,880 Speaker 3: about five miles in on the into the barrens, and 210 00:11:24,400 --> 00:11:27,319 Speaker 3: we got out of the truck and went about six 211 00:11:27,400 --> 00:11:31,040 Speaker 3: hundred yards into where we set up base camp, into 212 00:11:31,080 --> 00:11:34,480 Speaker 3: the woods in this area in the Wharton State Forest, 213 00:11:34,679 --> 00:11:38,040 Speaker 3: and I mean all hell broke loose, like twenty minutes later. 214 00:11:38,040 --> 00:11:40,960 Speaker 3: It was crazy, and we got these whoops on video 215 00:11:42,440 --> 00:11:45,560 Speaker 3: and not and no disrespect to any of the bigfoot 216 00:11:45,600 --> 00:11:47,920 Speaker 3: researchers out there or anything like that. But when I 217 00:11:48,000 --> 00:11:50,199 Speaker 3: was watching those big foot shows back in the day 218 00:11:50,240 --> 00:11:53,040 Speaker 3: and I would hear these guys whooping and hollering for 219 00:11:53,080 --> 00:11:56,000 Speaker 3: these creatures, I would always have a little chuckle and say, 220 00:11:56,000 --> 00:11:58,520 Speaker 3: is that what they really sound like? But my whole 221 00:11:58,559 --> 00:12:01,440 Speaker 3: perspective changed that night when we heard when we heard 222 00:12:01,440 --> 00:12:05,160 Speaker 3: the same thing so and then and then Eric's wife 223 00:12:06,040 --> 00:12:09,800 Speaker 3: answers it back, and they're having a conversation back and forth, 224 00:12:10,120 --> 00:12:12,600 Speaker 3: and you could hear it plain a day on our 225 00:12:12,720 --> 00:12:16,240 Speaker 3: video on our YouTube channel, and Eric and Tell investigates 226 00:12:16,240 --> 00:12:19,480 Speaker 3: it's called Pine Baron's Bigfoot. And then we did another 227 00:12:19,520 --> 00:12:23,120 Speaker 3: follow up last year as well. But so many things, George, 228 00:12:23,120 --> 00:12:24,200 Speaker 3: I mean, unbelievable. 229 00:12:25,240 --> 00:12:27,679 Speaker 2: I'm going to take a couple of stories from your book, 230 00:12:27,800 --> 00:12:29,640 Speaker 2: not all of them, because I want to leave something 231 00:12:29,720 --> 00:12:33,360 Speaker 2: left for the reader. Of course, tell us about Lady 232 00:12:33,400 --> 00:12:34,400 Speaker 2: in the Woods. 233 00:12:34,960 --> 00:12:38,680 Speaker 3: Oh, man, man, this is something that happened to me, 234 00:12:38,880 --> 00:12:42,200 Speaker 3: and I still, you know, can't believe it. So back 235 00:12:42,320 --> 00:12:45,000 Speaker 3: in I want to say November of nineteen ninety seven, 236 00:12:45,640 --> 00:12:48,040 Speaker 3: that's what it was. I was on my way to 237 00:12:48,080 --> 00:12:52,120 Speaker 3: a gig. And you know, we live here in Bucks 238 00:12:52,160 --> 00:12:54,320 Speaker 3: County and there's a lot of back roads and things 239 00:12:54,400 --> 00:12:56,240 Speaker 3: like that. So I'm on this back road in Bucks 240 00:12:56,280 --> 00:12:59,920 Speaker 3: County going to this gig in Wycomb, Pennsylvania, and I 241 00:13:00,000 --> 00:13:03,160 Speaker 3: I'm traveling down this road and you know, it's fall 242 00:13:03,280 --> 00:13:05,880 Speaker 3: so it's dark, and I'm going at a pretty good 243 00:13:05,880 --> 00:13:09,400 Speaker 3: clip down this one road. It's called Pine Lane in Whitecomb. 244 00:13:09,480 --> 00:13:12,520 Speaker 3: So I'm going down. All of a sudden, a deer 245 00:13:12,600 --> 00:13:14,520 Speaker 3: runs down in front of me. Boom, and I hit 246 00:13:14,559 --> 00:13:17,160 Speaker 3: it and I was like, oh my god. So I 247 00:13:17,320 --> 00:13:22,800 Speaker 3: slid with the deer. We're sliding probably about sixty feet 248 00:13:23,000 --> 00:13:25,440 Speaker 3: and came to a stop and I felt terrible. I 249 00:13:25,480 --> 00:13:26,959 Speaker 3: was like, oh my god, man, you know, I got 250 00:13:27,000 --> 00:13:29,520 Speaker 3: out of the car. I'm looking at this port thing 251 00:13:30,120 --> 00:13:33,640 Speaker 3: just hit it dead. And I'm looking at this thing. 252 00:13:33,840 --> 00:13:36,720 Speaker 3: And now I'm a piano player, you know, as as 253 00:13:36,840 --> 00:13:41,680 Speaker 3: jazz musician, and I'm looking at this thing and it's dark, 254 00:13:41,880 --> 00:13:44,720 Speaker 3: and the lights are on it. From the car and 255 00:13:44,920 --> 00:13:47,720 Speaker 3: out of the woods. From behind me, I hear a 256 00:13:47,760 --> 00:13:53,360 Speaker 3: woman's voice say, house your hands. And I turned around 257 00:13:53,440 --> 00:13:57,559 Speaker 3: and here it was this one, this woman in white. 258 00:13:57,840 --> 00:14:02,080 Speaker 3: It was like floating like white robes and flowing ropes 259 00:14:02,120 --> 00:14:05,040 Speaker 3: like that kind of thing. And she moved in front 260 00:14:05,040 --> 00:14:07,520 Speaker 3: of the car. And when she did you know, when 261 00:14:07,640 --> 00:14:09,480 Speaker 3: if you if someone was standing in front of the 262 00:14:09,520 --> 00:14:11,920 Speaker 3: car and you get like a silhouette of that person, 263 00:14:12,320 --> 00:14:14,480 Speaker 3: that's what she looked like, just this kind of blurred 264 00:14:14,559 --> 00:14:17,440 Speaker 3: image in front of the car. But what really got 265 00:14:17,480 --> 00:14:20,720 Speaker 3: me was when she bent down and took this two 266 00:14:20,800 --> 00:14:23,800 Speaker 3: hundred pound deer by the ear and dragged it off 267 00:14:23,840 --> 00:14:25,720 Speaker 3: the road like it was like light as a feather, 268 00:14:26,520 --> 00:14:28,800 Speaker 3: and then turned around and said, you better get your 269 00:14:28,800 --> 00:14:30,360 Speaker 3: car and get off the road. 270 00:14:30,680 --> 00:14:33,560 Speaker 2: Did she look Did she look physical to you, Eric? 271 00:14:34,400 --> 00:14:34,800 Speaker 1: She did. 272 00:14:35,680 --> 00:14:38,200 Speaker 3: It was a physical thing. It was a physical person. 273 00:14:39,080 --> 00:14:42,040 Speaker 3: And you know, the voice kind of cut through the 274 00:14:42,080 --> 00:14:43,960 Speaker 3: noise of the motor and all that kind of stuff, 275 00:14:45,760 --> 00:14:47,920 Speaker 3: and I just I got back in my car. I 276 00:14:47,920 --> 00:14:50,720 Speaker 3: didn't say a word, I didn't say anything. I just 277 00:14:50,800 --> 00:14:53,280 Speaker 3: kind of got in the car and I left and 278 00:14:53,320 --> 00:14:56,200 Speaker 3: I went that and I went to the gig and 279 00:14:56,320 --> 00:14:59,200 Speaker 3: told the guys what happened. They were freaked out. I 280 00:14:59,280 --> 00:15:03,200 Speaker 3: went back the next day. The deer's gone, and I 281 00:15:03,320 --> 00:15:05,680 Speaker 3: was thinking to myself, well, maybe there's a house back here. 282 00:15:05,720 --> 00:15:07,560 Speaker 3: Maybe somebody was in the woods and they spooked the 283 00:15:07,560 --> 00:15:10,200 Speaker 3: steer out and that's why I hit it. But then 284 00:15:10,880 --> 00:15:12,760 Speaker 3: I went back to that that part of the road. 285 00:15:13,160 --> 00:15:16,200 Speaker 3: I was looking around. There was no houses anywhere. It 286 00:15:16,240 --> 00:15:19,040 Speaker 3: was all nothing but woods. There's houses now, you know 287 00:15:19,120 --> 00:15:21,440 Speaker 3: since then that have been that have been built, but 288 00:15:21,440 --> 00:15:24,400 Speaker 3: but back then there was nothing there, and so it 289 00:15:24,440 --> 00:15:29,200 Speaker 3: was something I consider her my guardian angel. But here's 290 00:15:29,240 --> 00:15:32,000 Speaker 3: the thing, George, this is the most incredible thing. Now, 291 00:15:32,680 --> 00:15:35,120 Speaker 3: come to find out there is a lady in white 292 00:15:35,200 --> 00:15:37,880 Speaker 3: that has been seen in Bucks County that I didn't 293 00:15:37,920 --> 00:15:40,520 Speaker 3: even know about at that time. And I only found 294 00:15:40,560 --> 00:15:43,200 Speaker 3: out about this, you know, maybe just a couple of 295 00:15:43,240 --> 00:15:47,400 Speaker 3: years ago. But but my father also had this this 296 00:15:47,640 --> 00:15:52,560 Speaker 3: encounter in the mid seventies and also here in Upper 297 00:15:52,560 --> 00:15:55,200 Speaker 3: in uh Bucks County, in Upper Black Eddy with the 298 00:15:55,280 --> 00:15:58,800 Speaker 3: same well I don't know it was the same thing, 299 00:15:58,920 --> 00:16:02,320 Speaker 3: but he you know, he uh. Let's state that my 300 00:16:02,400 --> 00:16:05,480 Speaker 3: dad was a little bit of a partier in the seventies, 301 00:16:05,560 --> 00:16:07,720 Speaker 3: let's just put it that way. And he'd come home 302 00:16:07,800 --> 00:16:11,400 Speaker 3: late at night and it was about two in the morning. 303 00:16:11,440 --> 00:16:15,160 Speaker 3: He swears he was stone sober this night. And so 304 00:16:15,960 --> 00:16:18,520 Speaker 3: he's he's sitting on the front porch of our We 305 00:16:18,600 --> 00:16:21,720 Speaker 3: had like a little house, little apartment type house, and 306 00:16:21,760 --> 00:16:23,480 Speaker 3: there was we were on the bottom floor, there was 307 00:16:23,480 --> 00:16:27,400 Speaker 3: a family on top floor. And we lived across the 308 00:16:27,400 --> 00:16:30,680 Speaker 3: street from the Delaware River, you know where Washington cross 309 00:16:30,760 --> 00:16:34,160 Speaker 3: the Delaware. So we're in upper Black. Eddy he's sitting 310 00:16:34,200 --> 00:16:36,880 Speaker 3: on the porch and he's cooking a steak on this 311 00:16:37,000 --> 00:16:41,360 Speaker 3: little grill, this little habachi grill, and he's looking at 312 00:16:41,400 --> 00:16:43,760 Speaker 3: the water, and all of a sudden he sees this 313 00:16:43,880 --> 00:16:47,640 Speaker 3: white something or other on the water, and he's as 314 00:16:47,640 --> 00:16:50,560 Speaker 3: he's looking at it's floating down the river and he's looking. 315 00:16:50,600 --> 00:16:53,320 Speaker 3: It's about a half a mile away, and he's looking 316 00:16:53,320 --> 00:16:55,920 Speaker 3: at this thing and here it's he says, oh my god, 317 00:16:55,960 --> 00:16:58,960 Speaker 3: it so it looks like a woman all in white. 318 00:16:59,720 --> 00:17:03,520 Speaker 3: And then she turned her head and looked at him, 319 00:17:04,160 --> 00:17:07,160 Speaker 3: and when she turned her head, her face came right 320 00:17:07,240 --> 00:17:09,040 Speaker 3: up to his form, like a quarter a mile away. 321 00:17:10,119 --> 00:17:13,000 Speaker 3: And then she turned back went and it went back 322 00:17:13,040 --> 00:17:16,040 Speaker 3: to the water and as she's got floating down the river, 323 00:17:16,600 --> 00:17:20,040 Speaker 3: she's saying, I'm going home, I'm going home. And he said, 324 00:17:20,080 --> 00:17:23,560 Speaker 3: you could hear these words echoing through the valley. Now 325 00:17:23,680 --> 00:17:25,879 Speaker 3: I asked him, even on his deathbed a couple of 326 00:17:25,960 --> 00:17:29,080 Speaker 3: years ago, I said, Dad, is did that story? Did 327 00:17:29,080 --> 00:17:32,280 Speaker 3: that really happen? And he swears that it happened, And 328 00:17:33,040 --> 00:17:36,040 Speaker 3: so he had an encounter with her too, or something 329 00:17:36,080 --> 00:17:40,200 Speaker 3: of that nature. And I'm just getting goosebumps talking about 330 00:17:40,200 --> 00:17:42,720 Speaker 3: it because it was just, you know, that's something that 331 00:17:42,760 --> 00:17:46,560 Speaker 3: I had heard my entire life, and then they had 332 00:17:46,560 --> 00:17:49,560 Speaker 3: that happen to me, which was which was really crazy. 333 00:17:49,600 --> 00:17:53,080 Speaker 3: And then also here in Bucks County there's a restaurant 334 00:17:53,119 --> 00:17:56,680 Speaker 3: called the Black Bess in there is a story in 335 00:17:56,720 --> 00:18:01,320 Speaker 3: there about a woman in white who was I guess 336 00:18:01,359 --> 00:18:05,639 Speaker 3: she found her husband cheating Back in eighteen hundreds, she 337 00:18:05,840 --> 00:18:07,960 Speaker 3: caught her husband cheating on her. She went out of 338 00:18:08,040 --> 00:18:13,040 Speaker 3: killing the husband and the mistress and herself. And I'm 339 00:18:13,080 --> 00:18:15,280 Speaker 3: wondering if there's a connection there, so that we've been 340 00:18:15,280 --> 00:18:16,280 Speaker 3: looking into that as well. 341 00:18:17,320 --> 00:18:18,919 Speaker 2: Did she look angelic to you? 342 00:18:20,920 --> 00:18:24,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, you know a little bit. You know, in the book, 343 00:18:24,080 --> 00:18:26,320 Speaker 3: I put some pictures, and it was hard to describe 344 00:18:27,080 --> 00:18:31,800 Speaker 3: how to how she looked, but she did. And it 345 00:18:31,840 --> 00:18:35,200 Speaker 3: was more like it's hard to describe like how she 346 00:18:35,280 --> 00:18:37,919 Speaker 3: looked because it was it was a physical form, but 347 00:18:38,000 --> 00:18:42,600 Speaker 3: I couldn't see physical features. I could see the I 348 00:18:42,600 --> 00:18:46,119 Speaker 3: could see the blurriness that the outline of this person 349 00:18:46,560 --> 00:18:48,720 Speaker 3: that was there, but it was it was more of 350 00:18:48,800 --> 00:18:51,639 Speaker 3: like an obscure kind of like physical form. 351 00:18:51,960 --> 00:18:55,240 Speaker 1: Listen to more Coast to Coast AM every weeknight at 352 00:18:55,240 --> 00:18:58,520 Speaker 1: one am Eastern, and go to Coast to coastam dot 353 00:18:58,520 --> 00:18:59,320 Speaker 1: com for more