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Speaker 1: Welcome to the Therapy for Black Girls Podcast, a weekly

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Speaker 1: conversation about mental health, personal development, and all the small

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Speaker 1: of ourselves. I'm your host, Doctor Joy Harden Bradford, a

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Speaker 1: licensed psychologist in Atlanta, Georgia. For more information or to

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Speaker 1: find a therapist in your area, visit our website at

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Speaker 1: Therapy for Blackgirls dot com. While I hope you love

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Speaker 1: listening to and learning from the podcast, it is not

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Speaker 1: meant to be a substitute for a relationship with a

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Speaker 1: licensed mental health professional. Hey, y'all, thanks so much for

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Speaker 1: joining me for session four forty four of the Therapy

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Speaker 1: for Black Girls Podcast. We'll get right into our conversation

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Speaker 1: after a word from our sponsors. I'm really glad you're

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Speaker 1: here for this very special year. In episode, as I've

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Speaker 1: been reflecting on this year, all of his challenges, it's

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Speaker 1: to two conversations that felt like medicine for this exact moment.

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Speaker 1: These are conversations about what it means to fall apart

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Speaker 1: enough to understand its wisdom about setting intentions that honor

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Speaker 1: who we're becoming, not just who we think we should be.

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Speaker 1: So today I'm bringing you a curated collection of insights

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Speaker 1: from two remarkable women, Debbie Brown, author of Living in Wisdom,

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Speaker 1: and Dora Camal, meditation teacher and wellness expert. Think of

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Speaker 1: this as your year in reflection guide, part permission slip,

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Speaker 1: part practice session, all heart. Whether this year broke you

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Speaker 1: and let's close out this year together with some real

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Speaker 1: talk about transformation. You know what's interesting about the end

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Speaker 1: needs to complete first? What about the things we've been

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Speaker 1: with Debbie earlier this year, she had just finished a

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Speaker 1: book that had been living in her mind and body

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Speaker 1: what completion can open up for us.

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Speaker 2: You know what has been bringing me a lot of joy, truly,

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Speaker 2: the feeling of completion. This book that I'm going to

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Speaker 2: And as soon as that happened, I feel like I've

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Speaker 1: Bit divine timing. That phrase keeps showing up, doesn't it.

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Speaker 2: Do you know the feeling is mutual? I think I

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Speaker 1: So let's talk about what happened this year. Maybe you

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Speaker 1: Like one of the first chapters is you have Permission

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Speaker 1: So we've talked about completion, about divine timing, about permission

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Speaker 1: because transformation is beautiful in theory. But what about Monday morning?

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Speaker 1: What about when your body feels like it's betraying you

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Speaker 1: to hear just a little bit about how you got

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Speaker 1: very good care of yourselves. Happy New Year, y'all. So Jackson,

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Speaker 3: The new year, keep going, keep doing what you gotta do,

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Speaker 1: Thank you, Jackson. So, Julian, how do you feel like

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Speaker 1: So what do you feel like has been really good

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Speaker 6: A better year for everybody and a happy year for everybody.

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Speaker 6: I hope that y'all have a great, happy new years,

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