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Speaker 1: The following He's a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com

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Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. The Backfield, Flumbing down

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Speaker 1: the sideline. He's hanging with the Boys, broadcasting live from

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Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys World Headquarters at the Star in Frisco. Now

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Speaker 1: your host, Nate Newton, Kurt Daniels, and Shannon Gross Monday

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Speaker 1: at the Star. After a very how would you even

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Speaker 1: sum that game up? At the preseason game? There you go? Yeah, okay,

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Speaker 1: after after the third preseason game. That was more like

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Speaker 1: our fourth preseason and we still have to go through

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Speaker 1: one more of these ahole Thursday. Welcome to the show.

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Speaker 1: Brian brought us, that's us. Appreciate you guys. A man

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Speaker 1: down today, Kirk feeling a little under the weather, so

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Speaker 1: we recruited brought us today to come in and thank you.

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Speaker 1: So this is gonna be a good show. You know.

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Speaker 1: I can tell this is gonna be a good show

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Speaker 1: because before the show went on the air, we had

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Speaker 1: a mini show before the show started and brought us

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Speaker 1: to Nate. We're debating, and then the music started and

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Speaker 1: we got into the show. So you guys actually watched

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Speaker 1: the show, watched the game together yesterday during in the

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Speaker 1: studio right here at the Star. Yeah, the thing that

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Speaker 1: and Shannon Nate again, thanks for having me on the

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Speaker 1: thing that. I was disappointed, and I think Kick Garrison

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Speaker 1: said it today at lunch. Is our show for some

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Speaker 1: reason was not on on like periscope or Facebook or

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Speaker 1: is there's some rule about that, right, Shannon? We our

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Speaker 1: postgame show couldn't be on. We couldn't stream it for

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Speaker 1: for some reason. Yeah, there's some kind of rules. I'm sorry.

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Speaker 1: The postgame show last night, and it was a really

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Speaker 1: good post games and it wasn't all well, it was on,

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Speaker 1: it was on, but it wasn't on. We didn't stream

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Speaker 1: it live, We didn't stream of social media. Yeah yeah,

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Speaker 1: so now who is the rule? You can't just said

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Speaker 1: the rule as you can stream either the pre or

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Speaker 1: the post but not both. So we took the we

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Speaker 1: went there and can't. It was good yesterday too. You

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Speaker 1: can't have two live studio producer but they got too

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Speaker 1: live cruel they do that, you know what. I like that. Hey,

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Speaker 1: we all got the hell of a recruiter at Miami.

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Speaker 1: Where are you from? I am from Dallas. But anyway,

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Speaker 1: the show, yes, this show that we had yesterday on

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Speaker 1: the post I thought it was really it was good

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Speaker 1: because Nate and Night when we get together. If you've

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Speaker 1: ever watched Nate and I together, Nate is Nate loves

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Speaker 1: the way that I get mad. I get really mad. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: after a game, We're gonna install a camera and record

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Speaker 1: them watching the game together at the time, and we

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Speaker 1: get we get really I get mad, and Nate Nate

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Speaker 1: loves it when I get mad. So yeah, but now

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Speaker 1: our postgame show I thought was really really good. But

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Speaker 1: with the because there was some really good discussion about

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Speaker 1: you know, what you would do, how you would play things,

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Speaker 1: and so I'm sure we'll get in all that to

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Speaker 1: down on the shows. But you know, at halftime, I say,

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Speaker 1: brought us I ain't. I'm through, right, I'm through logging

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Speaker 1: them through whatever I'm through. Well, I usually tell Nate

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Speaker 1: it's like I usually keep on the pad, keep track Nate.

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Speaker 1: Nate wants to know where the ball is right, and

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Speaker 1: what was the game? What was the down in distance?

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Speaker 1: What's the game? So I'll say, like we got into

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Speaker 1: the third quarter and Nate, I said, Nate Gate of sixteen,

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Speaker 1: if you're falling along, yeah, I mean he'd be like

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Speaker 1: third quarter. Let it go. They put time back on

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Speaker 1: the clock. Yes, I thought Lindsay Draper was gonna lose

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Speaker 1: her mind. They like, please add something. He's like, why it.

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Speaker 1: I'm telling you, it's like why. Then we had uh Taylor,

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Speaker 1: did sweet? Yeah, tried something different on the show, had fun.

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Speaker 1: But that's just kind of the platform we have. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and get it right for Caroline because you are down

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Speaker 1: some safeties. But you know, overall, if you just look

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Speaker 1: it was after that fifty nine yard run where Huff

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Speaker 1: So I think the way to look at these football games, Nate,

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Speaker 1: Rashaw was doing was trying to reset the culture. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: You know, regardless of way you at, in what position

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Speaker 1: you play, and what team you're own, we expect for

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Speaker 1: you to do your job exactly. See it's one thing

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Speaker 1: holland next man up. Yeah, and then go out and

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Speaker 1: have special teams practices in Oxnard? Too many? Yeah, exactly,

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Speaker 1: especially offensive line must be in our room next door,

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Speaker 1: That is what separates the consistent teams from the from

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Speaker 1: the inconsistent teams. It's that basic depth. I know it's

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Speaker 1: four other guys that are slappies. Right, they find this success.

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Speaker 1: So I'm going off the fact that we got three guys.

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Speaker 1: four guys because Collins can play. Yeah, so we got

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Speaker 1: So that is my least concern. But when I see

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Speaker 1: and the getting sacks. Yeah, Chas Green, I'm not gonna

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Speaker 1: But you're you are concerned, you know, you feel like

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Speaker 1: Just for today's sake, there's five. You feel good about

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Speaker 1: Joe Looney right now, that's six. Okay. Nate just gave

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Speaker 1: the Sport Park. Was he were in the Romo jersey

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Speaker 1: didn't love it, but you guys, dude, right, No, we

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Speaker 1: Add Let's take a quick call and then we'll get

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Speaker 1: back into We'll get into yeah four tight end talk

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Speaker 1: with Nate. He bout rubbed a hole in his head

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Speaker 1: whenever Bron bought that. Let's go the phone real quick,

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Speaker 1: Phil A laugh yet, what's up? Phil? Hey, I'm back, guys.

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Speaker 1: I appreciate you taking my call. And Brian, uh, I

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Speaker 1: was listening to what you said, something that you said earlier,

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Speaker 1: maybe about sixteen twenty minutes back, about how you can't

537
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Speaker 1: get in love, you can't don't fall in love your team?

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Speaker 1: Yeah much? Yeah, but what what to me? And I

539
00:28:49,680 --> 00:28:53,000
Speaker 1: hit home to me It goes back to to Jerry

540
00:28:53,080 --> 00:28:56,520
Speaker 1: Jones's imprint on the team is is I know he

541
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Speaker 1: was he falls in love with certain players, but sure

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Speaker 1: I think his philosophy is to to you know, to

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Speaker 1: play up, not play up the players. But the perception

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Speaker 1: I have is the sense of urgency doesn't seem to be,

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Speaker 1: you know, a prevalent from what I hear, and and

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Speaker 1: I just think based on what you hear about the

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Speaker 1: decisions that are being made, and I can't I don't

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Speaker 1: know if there is one guy we lost him. I

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Speaker 1: don't know if there's a guy. But it just seemed

550
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Speaker 1: like the decision making process is too convoluted, like whenever

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Speaker 1: to add a guy or cut a guy, give me

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Speaker 1: a favorite of my friend, do me a favorite, Do

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Speaker 1: me a favorite next time. Just go right to the

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Speaker 1: heart of it. Just go right to say you don't

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Speaker 1: you're not trusting Jerry Jones right now to make decisions.

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Speaker 1: Is that kind of where we're going? Right? Yeah, there

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Speaker 1: we go. Now I understand where you're going. All right,

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00:29:49,800 --> 00:29:52,720
Speaker 1: that's what we need. Yeah, I'm sorry, no, no, no good.

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Speaker 1: Thanks for the call, Phil, appreciate it. Man. Yeah, I

560
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Speaker 1: mean to me, there's there's things about Jerry Jones, the

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Speaker 1: general man you can definitely you know, fault and especially

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Speaker 1: when he had a guy like me telling him what

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Speaker 1: to do. You know, when he had Brian brought us

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Speaker 1: nearly two thousands. Because we made a lot of bad decisions.

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Speaker 1: We were in a very good scouting department. We didn't

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Speaker 1: help Dave Campo. You could go back, you could go

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Speaker 1: back and watch the Parcels documentary. You could see a

568
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Speaker 1: lot of the problems we had. But I will say

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Speaker 1: this though, I think he has improved the listening aspect

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Speaker 1: of I mean, okay, I don't mean, because he's always

571
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Speaker 1: been a listener. But I think he trusts Will McClay more.

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Speaker 1: I think he trusts what the scouts are saying. I

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Speaker 1: don't think Will McClay I believe, agrees with me about

574
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Speaker 1: not falling in love with your team. His attitude is

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Speaker 1: about I've got to build the best fifty three, you know.

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Speaker 1: And there was a time where Jerry Jones, and that

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Speaker 1: comes from Al Davis. Al Davis was Jerry jones best

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Speaker 1: friend when he came into the league. Al Davis is

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Speaker 1: the one that took Jerry and said, listen, you don't

580
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Speaker 1: need a general manager. You could be the general manager.

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Speaker 1: I'm a general manager for my team. You don't have

582
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Speaker 1: to be that guy. So he's taken that out. And

583
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Speaker 1: Al Davis was a guy that fell in love with

584
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Speaker 1: his players too. But I think Jerry Jones later here

585
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Speaker 1: in his career, in his tenure as a general manager,

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Speaker 1: I think he realizes that, you know what, he's had

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Speaker 1: to make some he's had to make some tough decisions.

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Speaker 1: You've seen it with DeMarcus. You see it with Demartis.

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Speaker 1: You see it with DeMarcus, you see it with Tony,

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Speaker 1: you see it with DeMarco Murray. You've seen it with

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Speaker 1: they've they've made They've made some tough decisions. They got

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Speaker 1: rid of Dez Bryant. I don't think he really wanted

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Speaker 1: to get rid of Dez Bryant, but he knew what

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Speaker 1: he had to do for the team. So listening, understanding, adapting, earliness, earliness,

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Speaker 1: earliness general manager Tennis term won Super Bowls successful, then

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Speaker 1: we had that bad lull for him. But I think

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Speaker 1: he's gotten better at that. And I'm not trying to

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Speaker 1: defend him. I'm just saying that, you know, when when

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Speaker 1: it comes through the hard, fast decision, I think he's

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Speaker 1: done a better job with that. How much do you

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Speaker 1: think that's Stephen coming of age as a general manager?

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Speaker 1: And I think Steve, I think Steven's a big influence

603
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Speaker 1: with that. I think Steven, I think Will McClay is

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Speaker 1: a big influence as well. Well. When you when you've

605
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Speaker 1: taken the cap hits that this team is taken over

606
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Speaker 1: the years, that is uh, giving them great players, but

607
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Speaker 1: also handicapped when it comes time to get a great player.

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Speaker 1: And I think where Steven comes in, it's like, Okay,

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Speaker 1: I believe it's gonna be a point we Steven said, okay,

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Speaker 1: we we we are in a place now where we

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Speaker 1: can go get this guy if necessary. Right, But the

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Speaker 1: bottom line is this right here, and this is this

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Speaker 1: is whether it's a cap problem, and Brian, you can

614
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Speaker 1: speak on this whether it's a cap problem problem or

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Speaker 1: are we're just not hitting on the right guys. We

616
00:32:44,840 --> 00:32:51,600
Speaker 1: have a depth problem. And it hasn't hit us defensively

617
00:32:51,680 --> 00:32:54,640
Speaker 1: but only in one spot. But it's hit it keeps

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00:32:54,680 --> 00:32:58,360
Speaker 1: hitting us repeatedly on offense, and our offense is supposed

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Speaker 1: to be our core at this point. I'm not saying

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Speaker 1: gonna run into the same thing we run into every

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Speaker 1: to be alleviated through coaching, are scouting. So it's got

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Speaker 1: to be fixed because if unless we get fortunate enough,

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Speaker 1: like you said, look, get fortunate it, well, Albin's in line,

627
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Speaker 1: don't get injured. And we know that's probably not gonna happen.

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Speaker 1: But we're this crew right here. When we used to

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634
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Speaker 1: the evaluation of the team. They knew their team, they

635
00:33:48,840 --> 00:33:51,440
Speaker 1: knew the type of players, they had the coaching staff

636
00:33:51,440 --> 00:33:54,080
Speaker 1: in place. That can make a difference. If you did

637
00:33:54,120 --> 00:33:57,080
Speaker 1: bring in new players, you could you know, you could

638
00:33:57,480 --> 00:34:01,280
Speaker 1: survive that. So yeah, I I feel like though that

639
00:34:02,240 --> 00:34:07,200
Speaker 1: they haven't hit on they haven't hit on the the

640
00:34:07,280 --> 00:34:10,439
Speaker 1: college free agent yet they are. They haven't hit on

641
00:34:11,160 --> 00:34:15,160
Speaker 1: uh well, yeah, they haven't hit on the guy that

642
00:34:15,360 --> 00:34:18,600
Speaker 1: Parnell was a claim. I mean they really claim yea, Well,

643
00:34:18,640 --> 00:34:20,359
Speaker 1: if you think about pro, if you think about pro,

644
00:34:20,640 --> 00:34:23,280
Speaker 1: it looks like they hit on Joe Thomas and yeah,

645
00:34:23,360 --> 00:34:26,239
Speaker 1: Larry was at Larry was a college player right night,

646
00:34:26,320 --> 00:34:28,560
Speaker 1: that was but he had a bad knee and they

647
00:34:28,719 --> 00:34:31,360
Speaker 1: they they convinced him. They hit on a while Collins,

648
00:34:31,400 --> 00:34:33,400
Speaker 1: he was a free agent, should have been drafted. Yes,

649
00:34:33,719 --> 00:34:37,960
Speaker 1: but they but they to my point, they haven't really

650
00:34:38,200 --> 00:34:41,640
Speaker 1: hit on the multiple guys like they had in the past.

651
00:34:41,760 --> 00:34:45,000
Speaker 1: Like I'm talking about you know, the Tony Romos, the

652
00:34:45,760 --> 00:34:49,040
Speaker 1: Miles Austin. Yeah, the guys like that, you know, Patrick

653
00:34:49,120 --> 00:34:52,000
Speaker 1: Creighton's the guys that have made a difference, played four

654
00:34:52,080 --> 00:34:55,120
Speaker 1: or five six years that have either been debt players

655
00:34:55,200 --> 00:34:58,680
Speaker 1: or starting players. So you know, they don't have that

656
00:34:59,239 --> 00:35:01,800
Speaker 1: You maybe, like say Joe Looney on his own, his

657
00:35:01,960 --> 00:35:04,200
Speaker 1: kind of you know, Joe Looney was jumbo Joe really

658
00:35:04,280 --> 00:35:07,960
Speaker 1: kind of a you know, was one, one, one or

659
00:35:08,000 --> 00:35:10,879
Speaker 1: two meals away from maybe eating himself out of the league. Yeah,

660
00:35:11,080 --> 00:35:12,560
Speaker 1: you know that kind of guy. But you know, he's

661
00:35:12,560 --> 00:35:16,080
Speaker 1: remade himself. I keep saying that because he has, and

662
00:35:16,120 --> 00:35:19,319
Speaker 1: he's one of the reasons why. But they haven't been

663
00:35:19,360 --> 00:35:22,160
Speaker 1: able to were some of these guys that they've pulled in.

664
00:35:22,239 --> 00:35:24,680
Speaker 1: You know, we we sta have questions about Cam Fleming.

665
00:35:25,120 --> 00:35:27,799
Speaker 1: We we do have questions Marcus Martin. You know, he

666
00:35:27,840 --> 00:35:30,520
Speaker 1: was another guy that was added that all of a sudden,

667
00:35:30,560 --> 00:35:33,200
Speaker 1: now wait, he's not here anymore. That he got hurt,

668
00:35:33,239 --> 00:35:35,359
Speaker 1: he got a toe problem. But what happened to him

669
00:35:35,360 --> 00:35:37,640
Speaker 1: when he came in He wasn't in good physical condition.

670
00:35:38,040 --> 00:35:40,720
Speaker 1: You know, he wasn't ready to play. But it looks

671
00:35:40,719 --> 00:35:42,680
Speaker 1: like they've you know, they've looked like they've got something

672
00:35:42,800 --> 00:35:46,399
Speaker 1: here with with Joe Thomas. You know that that that

673
00:35:46,400 --> 00:35:50,800
Speaker 1: that looks positive, that looks positive. There hasn't there hasn't

674
00:35:50,840 --> 00:35:53,920
Speaker 1: been enough of those. And you know their their attitude

675
00:35:53,960 --> 00:35:56,400
Speaker 1: has been, Hey, we're not going to go and sign

676
00:35:56,960 --> 00:35:59,440
Speaker 1: a big name guy because they want to sign their

677
00:35:59,440 --> 00:36:01,719
Speaker 1: own guys. They paid money to Frederick, they paid money

678
00:36:01,719 --> 00:36:04,759
Speaker 1: to Martin, they paid money to Smith, They gave seventeen

679
00:36:04,840 --> 00:36:09,239
Speaker 1: million dollars or committed seventeen million dollars to to to

680
00:36:09,360 --> 00:36:12,960
Speaker 1: Marcus Lawrence let me. And they waited on Randy Gregory

681
00:36:13,040 --> 00:36:15,080
Speaker 1: that one, right there might be the one that that

682
00:36:15,080 --> 00:36:18,000
Speaker 1: that that give us the off is off big by

683
00:36:18,000 --> 00:36:19,879
Speaker 1: waiting on him the way they have So Nate, you're

684
00:36:19,920 --> 00:36:22,640
Speaker 1: rubbing your head earlier. Shan's gonna get you. I gotta,

685
00:36:22,800 --> 00:36:24,279
Speaker 1: I gotta, I have a question because I want to

686
00:36:24,320 --> 00:36:27,200
Speaker 1: know talking about tight ends, right, and when brought us

687
00:36:27,200 --> 00:36:29,880
Speaker 1: said four tight ends, you almost walked out of the

688
00:36:30,000 --> 00:36:32,880
Speaker 1: room keeping four tight ends. But here's what you got.

689
00:36:33,040 --> 00:36:35,759
Speaker 1: You got Swain, which we we I believe we all

690
00:36:35,760 --> 00:36:38,319
Speaker 1: in this room think he's the best blocker. Uh and

691
00:36:38,520 --> 00:36:41,160
Speaker 1: got hands that they just haven't been able to use yet, right,

692
00:36:41,239 --> 00:36:43,279
Speaker 1: so that you don't want to catching pass for the

693
00:36:43,320 --> 00:36:47,120
Speaker 1: first team. So okay, so that's you, that's your guy.

694
00:36:47,400 --> 00:36:51,360
Speaker 1: Then you've got the project Rico Gathers. That's we all know.

695
00:36:51,400 --> 00:36:54,400
Speaker 1: He's shown flashes. He just don't know, you don't know

696
00:36:54,440 --> 00:36:57,680
Speaker 1: if he's gonna be worried stuffed. Yeah right, Yeah. Then

697
00:36:57,680 --> 00:37:00,640
Speaker 1: you've got uh, you got jar One that from everything

698
00:37:00,680 --> 00:37:02,640
Speaker 1: we hear, they're really high on and they think his

699
00:37:02,719 --> 00:37:05,480
Speaker 1: potential is really high. And then you got a draft pick,

700
00:37:06,120 --> 00:37:08,759
Speaker 1: Shultz that you wasted a draft pick if you let

701
00:37:08,840 --> 00:37:11,000
Speaker 1: him go. What do you do it? Tight end? Do

702
00:37:11,040 --> 00:37:13,080
Speaker 1: you roll with two? Do you go with four? Do

703
00:37:13,120 --> 00:37:15,920
Speaker 1: you go with three? Ain't jumbo Joe. Part of that

704
00:37:15,960 --> 00:37:18,200
Speaker 1: package is now looks like he's gonna be playing at

705
00:37:18,280 --> 00:37:21,160
Speaker 1: least the first couple of games of the year. Lose

706
00:37:21,239 --> 00:37:23,839
Speaker 1: all the way you you're riding Joe all the way through.

707
00:37:24,239 --> 00:37:25,960
Speaker 1: I mean that's how you gotta look at that, because

708
00:37:26,200 --> 00:37:29,480
Speaker 1: one way or the other. Dogs center. Yeah, Now you

709
00:37:29,560 --> 00:37:32,759
Speaker 1: pick three tight ends and you go, you pick three

710
00:37:32,800 --> 00:37:35,120
Speaker 1: tight ends, and you go, pick three tight ends. Don't

711
00:37:35,120 --> 00:37:39,160
Speaker 1: look back back saying wide receiver. You get five guys

712
00:37:39,200 --> 00:37:42,279
Speaker 1: and you go, see, now you know, if you give me,

713
00:37:42,320 --> 00:37:45,239
Speaker 1: if you're if you don't keep six. If you don't

714
00:37:45,320 --> 00:37:47,399
Speaker 1: keep six wide. If you if you say we're going

715
00:37:47,480 --> 00:37:51,680
Speaker 1: five wide receivers and roll, I could take four tight ends.

716
00:37:52,520 --> 00:37:57,040
Speaker 1: I could take four tight ends. It's no need, Okay, okay,

717
00:37:57,040 --> 00:38:00,000
Speaker 1: but but you do we want to go heavy defensive line? Yeah,

718
00:38:00,080 --> 00:38:02,080
Speaker 1: you guys gonna have Okay, because if that's if that,

719
00:38:02,200 --> 00:38:07,480
Speaker 1: if that's no, no, hey, you cannot set up you

720
00:38:07,480 --> 00:38:12,879
Speaker 1: you Okay? What do you predicated everything? I'm predicated this

721
00:38:13,280 --> 00:38:17,319
Speaker 1: my decisions on is we going to the playoffs? Yeah, Now,

722
00:38:17,360 --> 00:38:20,919
Speaker 1: if we're saying we're gonna miss the playoffs, let's keep

723
00:38:20,960 --> 00:38:24,319
Speaker 1: seven wide receivers, let's kids keep eight tight ends. Let's

724
00:38:24,360 --> 00:38:28,840
Speaker 1: keep all these potentials, like if we know what I'm saying, no,

725
00:38:28,960 --> 00:38:31,200
Speaker 1: if we if we saying okay, let's gonna make a

726
00:38:31,280 --> 00:38:34,359
Speaker 1: run at the playoffs, let's now let's keep all these

727
00:38:34,400 --> 00:38:36,880
Speaker 1: projects and everybody that don't know what to do, and

728
00:38:36,960 --> 00:38:39,319
Speaker 1: a guy that maybe ain't developed in three years, let's

729
00:38:39,360 --> 00:38:41,880
Speaker 1: just keep him another year. But if we're trying to

730
00:38:41,920 --> 00:38:44,279
Speaker 1: make a serious run at the playoffs and go get

731
00:38:44,400 --> 00:38:48,440
Speaker 1: role Thomas. I haven't denied it. I played up to it.

732
00:38:49,080 --> 00:38:51,719
Speaker 1: But I do know this. I like your attitude. I

733
00:38:51,760 --> 00:38:55,359
Speaker 1: do know this is you get the best three tight ends,

734
00:38:55,680 --> 00:38:59,080
Speaker 1: you get the best five wide receivers. You you, you,

735
00:38:59,080 --> 00:39:02,439
Speaker 1: you solidified your offensive line. You pray to God zeke,

736
00:39:02,480 --> 00:39:05,439
Speaker 1: don't get hurt. You You hope that what we've seen

737
00:39:05,520 --> 00:39:09,000
Speaker 1: on our quarterback don't get hurt either. You hope that

738
00:39:09,080 --> 00:39:12,120
Speaker 1: our defense is what we think it is. The growth

739
00:39:12,160 --> 00:39:15,080
Speaker 1: that is shown, that it continues to growth. And now

740
00:39:15,160 --> 00:39:19,240
Speaker 1: you run you you you. Then when the season starts,

741
00:39:19,719 --> 00:39:22,000
Speaker 1: a rap before the season start, you look at your

742
00:39:22,000 --> 00:39:24,759
Speaker 1: team and say, what let's put a priority. Do we

743
00:39:24,840 --> 00:39:29,960
Speaker 1: need safety first, our offensive line helped first? Or put

744
00:39:30,040 --> 00:39:33,040
Speaker 1: your things in part and then then go accordingly. But

745
00:39:33,080 --> 00:39:36,560
Speaker 1: if we get all these want to be hoped, hope

746
00:39:36,600 --> 00:39:39,879
Speaker 1: to make the team. Guys, you're not. You're not making

747
00:39:39,880 --> 00:39:43,160
Speaker 1: a run in the playoffs. You just yeah, you just

748
00:39:43,480 --> 00:39:46,000
Speaker 1: we're just setting up for another year or being a

749
00:39:46,120 --> 00:39:49,720
Speaker 1: top five pick. Yeah, because you can't continue to sign

750
00:39:49,800 --> 00:39:53,600
Speaker 1: guys keep guys that cannot help you win. It's win

751
00:39:53,680 --> 00:39:56,239
Speaker 1: and win in business, as we in the development of states,

752
00:39:56,239 --> 00:39:58,600
Speaker 1: so we can send them to another team. That's I

753
00:39:58,600 --> 00:40:01,400
Speaker 1: don't look thinking of Ryan Twitterer or traded from Oakland

754
00:40:01,400 --> 00:40:03,759
Speaker 1: to Pittsburgh a little fifth round pick about that? Yeah,

755
00:40:03,840 --> 00:40:06,440
Speaker 1: pretty good, Lisa picks keep getting better. Huh, yeah, you'd

756
00:40:06,520 --> 00:40:09,120
Speaker 1: get better before you know, it'll be a one. I

757
00:40:09,160 --> 00:40:11,960
Speaker 1: mean I should just Shannon, yeah, and and and that

758
00:40:12,120 --> 00:40:15,160
Speaker 1: this is probably this might be an unfair question. No, no, shoot, shoot,

759
00:40:15,160 --> 00:40:17,840
Speaker 1: I'll tell you who's played better, Rico Gathers or or

760
00:40:18,080 --> 00:40:24,120
Speaker 1: or our boys Schultz Dalton Schultz, who's played better? If

761
00:40:24,200 --> 00:40:26,480
Speaker 1: I'm I just eyeball eyeball tests, that's all you can

762
00:40:26,680 --> 00:40:30,239
Speaker 1: go to me, not not knowing it's always gonna be Rico.

763
00:40:30,719 --> 00:40:36,040
Speaker 1: I'm telling you it's always saw that. We couldn't decide

764
00:40:36,040 --> 00:40:39,440
Speaker 1: whether it was Chad's green, uh, Tommy Man or Dalton Schultz?

765
00:40:39,480 --> 00:40:42,000
Speaker 1: Who fought? Who was it? When you literally the find who? Who?

766
00:40:42,000 --> 00:40:44,440
Speaker 1: Did it? Look like seventy nine? Yeah, it was seventy

767
00:40:44,480 --> 00:40:46,120
Speaker 1: And I knew it was because what it is he

768
00:40:46,200 --> 00:40:47,799
Speaker 1: was supposed to squeeze now and there was a hang

769
00:40:47,920 --> 00:40:50,000
Speaker 1: block and the tight end was supposed to get something,

770
00:40:50,040 --> 00:40:51,920
Speaker 1: won't hey, but he didn't. Yeah, but he both of

771
00:40:52,040 --> 00:40:54,000
Speaker 1: both of both of them read both of him. Yeah,

772
00:40:54,000 --> 00:40:56,959
Speaker 1: So who's that? Who was it? And who gave the sack?

773
00:40:57,000 --> 00:40:59,120
Speaker 1: It was great? It was it was Schultz it was

774
00:40:59,120 --> 00:41:01,640
Speaker 1: Schultz and Green. Yeah, yeah, see that. And that's where

775
00:41:01,640 --> 00:41:05,040
Speaker 1: people say, well, well, gosh brought us Look Schultz busted there.

776
00:41:05,520 --> 00:41:09,000
Speaker 1: You're right because I keep talking about Rico Gathers busting. Yeah,

777
00:41:09,920 --> 00:41:13,560
Speaker 1: we all do. See that's the only thing, you know, folks,

778
00:41:13,560 --> 00:41:16,800
Speaker 1: we're not We're not making this up. We're not making this.

779
00:41:16,920 --> 00:41:19,680
Speaker 1: You just watch practice for twenty straight days like we do.

780
00:41:20,040 --> 00:41:23,239
Speaker 1: You will see how the coaches coach these guys. I

781
00:41:23,280 --> 00:41:25,319
Speaker 1: think that. I think the infatuation with the fans on

782
00:41:25,400 --> 00:41:28,600
Speaker 1: Rico though, is he always make a play that makes

783
00:41:28,640 --> 00:41:31,960
Speaker 1: some different and he's he's huge. You don't. You don't

784
00:41:31,960 --> 00:41:34,719
Speaker 1: put as much emphasis if you're watching a game, You

785
00:41:34,719 --> 00:41:37,280
Speaker 1: don't focus on the blocking. They just see the big

786
00:41:38,160 --> 00:41:41,520
Speaker 1: They fear Martella spinning all that's it. They fear. They

787
00:41:41,560 --> 00:41:48,160
Speaker 1: fear catch guys the exactly they fear. The minute you say, well,

788
00:41:48,160 --> 00:41:53,120
Speaker 1: hey we're gonna cut Rico Gathers. Oh gosh, why Martella

789
00:41:53,200 --> 00:41:56,000
Speaker 1: spinning all over again? Here, he's just gonna go. He

790
00:41:56,120 --> 00:41:58,520
Speaker 1: win a Super Bowl with New England. Get ready, we'll lose.

791
00:41:58,640 --> 00:42:02,440
Speaker 1: You know, trust me, your your mentions, I donate. You

792
00:42:02,480 --> 00:42:04,520
Speaker 1: don't do a lot with your Twitter. Na I stay

793
00:42:04,520 --> 00:42:07,840
Speaker 1: away from because I'm not getting into an argument. Like

794
00:42:07,920 --> 00:42:09,920
Speaker 1: you said, I've been out there for three weeks watching

795
00:42:09,920 --> 00:42:13,799
Speaker 1: these guys practice, and I do not want to go

796
00:42:14,239 --> 00:42:17,600
Speaker 1: into this season saying, Okay, we kept all of these

797
00:42:17,640 --> 00:42:21,720
Speaker 1: guys who ain't gonna play an ain't our special teams

798
00:42:21,719 --> 00:42:26,520
Speaker 1: are covered with secondary line and linebacker. So why would

799
00:42:26,560 --> 00:42:29,560
Speaker 1: we keep an extra wide receiver? Why would we keep

800
00:42:29,560 --> 00:42:33,640
Speaker 1: an extra tight end, especially a tight end. Two guys

801
00:42:33,680 --> 00:42:39,480
Speaker 1: that can't contribute this year? Is Schultz Enrico pet one

802
00:42:39,560 --> 00:42:42,480
Speaker 1: of them, and let's go do whatever you want. You're saying.

803
00:42:42,560 --> 00:42:46,640
Speaker 1: You're saying, you're saying one guy can't contribute. Whoever, the

804
00:42:46,640 --> 00:42:49,120
Speaker 1: third tight end's not going to contribute. Really he's not.

805
00:42:49,239 --> 00:42:54,800
Speaker 1: I mean, Schultz gotta learn, but ain't Rico gotta learn? Okay.

806
00:42:54,920 --> 00:42:56,879
Speaker 1: I thought the big thing about Schultz was he came

807
00:42:56,920 --> 00:42:59,680
Speaker 1: from a pro style college. Oh, there's no question that's

808
00:42:59,680 --> 00:43:03,759
Speaker 1: the you know what, broadest played at LSU. But did

809
00:43:03,800 --> 00:43:09,759
Speaker 1: he get drafted? I'm not being funny, I am you

810
00:43:09,800 --> 00:43:12,240
Speaker 1: know I played at Florida and him and played thirteen

811
00:43:12,280 --> 00:43:14,839
Speaker 1: years in the league, But did I get drafted? Yeah?

812
00:43:15,040 --> 00:43:17,040
Speaker 1: See what I'm trying to say is don't matter whether

813
00:43:17,080 --> 00:43:19,840
Speaker 1: you got drafted not drafted. If you ain't playing, you

814
00:43:19,840 --> 00:43:21,960
Speaker 1: ain't playing if you can't help right now, I got

815
00:43:21,960 --> 00:43:24,560
Speaker 1: cut from the washingt Rism because I could not help

816
00:43:24,600 --> 00:43:28,759
Speaker 1: them win. I couldn't help them wine. So if you

817
00:43:28,840 --> 00:43:31,000
Speaker 1: can't help me win, why are you on my team?

818
00:43:31,040 --> 00:43:34,440
Speaker 1: What click different for you? What? What? Okay? What's gonna?

819
00:43:34,560 --> 00:43:39,480
Speaker 1: What can click for? What can click for Kadeem Edwards? Uh? Strength?

820
00:43:39,840 --> 00:43:42,560
Speaker 1: The strength? You know his problem is he's a winning participant,

821
00:43:42,560 --> 00:43:44,600
Speaker 1: but he just don't having to strength. He got to

822
00:43:44,640 --> 00:43:48,759
Speaker 1: get that now, Canna, You're you're always a big guy. Yeah, yeah,

823
00:43:48,760 --> 00:43:50,880
Speaker 1: I was a hog from day one, right, you know

824
00:43:51,000 --> 00:43:53,360
Speaker 1: they had a vision for you. But yeah, but I

825
00:43:53,520 --> 00:43:56,480
Speaker 1: just want I wasn't smart as a player. See I've

826
00:43:56,480 --> 00:43:59,640
Speaker 1: been with Rico. Is that right now? When you're so

827
00:43:59,680 --> 00:44:02,400
Speaker 1: what do you feel like when someone says you're not

828
00:44:02,480 --> 00:44:06,279
Speaker 1: smart enough to play? Then it's insult. It's insult. And

829
00:44:06,360 --> 00:44:08,600
Speaker 1: even when I got to the Cowboys, I would have

830
00:44:08,600 --> 00:44:12,719
Speaker 1: never made it with with Dave Schuler's offense. It was

831
00:44:12,719 --> 00:44:15,920
Speaker 1: too much thinking, too much movement. To me, Yeah, I

832
00:44:15,920 --> 00:44:18,680
Speaker 1: would have never made it. Then North came in and

833
00:44:18,719 --> 00:44:21,960
Speaker 1: I'm like, Wow, Okay, he just calling it. I write

834
00:44:22,040 --> 00:44:24,359
Speaker 1: says and such one or two plays. I'm with that.

835
00:44:24,719 --> 00:44:26,880
Speaker 1: Whereas when Schuler was in it was like a paragraph.

836
00:44:27,040 --> 00:44:29,279
Speaker 1: I'm like, which part of this paragraph applies to me?

837
00:44:30,600 --> 00:44:32,839
Speaker 1: You get what I'm saying that Stepanowski helped you too.

838
00:44:34,400 --> 00:44:35,960
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, he was my He was my ace in

839
00:44:36,000 --> 00:44:39,520
Speaker 1: the hole. So you know so Riko nietzsch Stepanowski, Yeah

840
00:44:39,520 --> 00:44:42,960
Speaker 1: he does. He either get a step Nanowski getting your playbook.

841
00:44:43,160 --> 00:44:49,600
Speaker 1: See see Cowboy fans say they want to win. That's

842
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Speaker 1: what That's what we always talk about. You want to win. Yeah,

843
00:44:53,880 --> 00:44:56,719
Speaker 1: and you know I mean and then when it comes

844
00:44:56,719 --> 00:45:01,719
Speaker 1: time to choose the team to win, you got your favorites. Yeah,

845
00:45:01,800 --> 00:45:04,800
Speaker 1: you know, favorites. Don't get it. Bro's who can perform.

846
00:45:06,120 --> 00:45:10,440
Speaker 1: Potential is good for the practice squad to the Potential

847
00:45:10,920 --> 00:45:14,480
Speaker 1: is good for if you're the fifty third guy. Potential

848
00:45:14,640 --> 00:45:17,080
Speaker 1: is not good for the active squad. We need guys

849
00:45:17,080 --> 00:45:18,960
Speaker 1: that can play on the active squad. You don't need

850
00:45:19,000 --> 00:45:22,239
Speaker 1: a forty six potential guy. Right now, no man brought

851
00:45:22,280 --> 00:45:24,480
Speaker 1: us before we go to our last break. How many

852
00:45:24,480 --> 00:45:27,799
Speaker 1: tight ends you keeping I've kept three? Yeah, I've kept three,

853
00:45:27,800 --> 00:45:30,239
Speaker 1: But I will admit that Rico Gathers has played better

854
00:45:30,239 --> 00:45:32,800
Speaker 1: than Dalton Schultz. And I was very very high on

855
00:45:32,880 --> 00:45:35,400
Speaker 1: Dalton Schultz when he was drafted by the Dallas Cowboys.

856
00:45:35,640 --> 00:45:37,879
Speaker 1: I have not seen the same player that I saw

857
00:45:37,920 --> 00:45:40,960
Speaker 1: at Stanford, the point of attack, block or the nasty guy,

858
00:45:41,040 --> 00:45:43,839
Speaker 1: the finisher. He's feeling his way through a lot of things.

859
00:45:43,880 --> 00:45:47,040
Speaker 1: So maybe, as as Nate says, there's your potential, But

860
00:45:47,080 --> 00:45:49,400
Speaker 1: does your potential need to be on the fifty three

861
00:45:49,520 --> 00:45:51,160
Speaker 1: or does it need to be on the practice squad?

862
00:45:51,560 --> 00:45:54,040
Speaker 1: You know, we had too many injuris Man. Yeah, to

863
00:45:54,120 --> 00:45:57,960
Speaker 1: take chances on our day on our active roster. The

864
00:45:58,040 --> 00:46:00,200
Speaker 1: active roster got to be a part of head from

865
00:46:00,280 --> 00:46:02,319
Speaker 1: us win. It can't be just a guy Oh in

866
00:46:02,360 --> 00:46:05,919
Speaker 1: a year he would be okay, yeah, and that ain't

867
00:46:05,920 --> 00:46:07,480
Speaker 1: winning football. How do you feel like that about a

868
00:46:07,560 --> 00:46:10,319
Speaker 1: bunch of wide receivers? Oh, it's five of them for me? Yeah,

869
00:46:10,320 --> 00:46:13,080
Speaker 1: it's five of them. So you're three is swaying Jarwin

870
00:46:13,160 --> 00:46:17,000
Speaker 1: and Rico? I think that right now? Yeah, I would

871
00:46:17,040 --> 00:46:19,280
Speaker 1: have to say that. I would probably go that way

872
00:46:19,320 --> 00:46:23,120
Speaker 1: because again, the problem I run into is, you know,

873
00:46:23,239 --> 00:46:26,160
Speaker 1: I don't want to give up on Schultz because personal guy. Again,

874
00:46:26,239 --> 00:46:28,239
Speaker 1: don't want to give up on guys you drafted. They

875
00:46:28,719 --> 00:46:31,759
Speaker 1: will protect the draft. That's why maybe a guy like

876
00:46:32,360 --> 00:46:35,600
Speaker 1: like both Scarborough Jackson has played better than both Scarborough

877
00:46:35,719 --> 00:46:39,480
Speaker 1: the last two weeks. But but they'll probably protect the

878
00:46:39,560 --> 00:46:42,080
Speaker 1: draft because that's what you do because you're you're, you're,

879
00:46:42,280 --> 00:46:45,400
Speaker 1: you said, we now this is where and he's laughing

880
00:46:45,480 --> 00:46:47,560
Speaker 1: right now, he's but you know, I don't disagree with

881
00:46:47,600 --> 00:46:50,200
Speaker 1: him because on that board, they might have picked both

882
00:46:50,239 --> 00:46:52,040
Speaker 1: Scarborough in the seventh round, but maybe they had him

883
00:46:52,040 --> 00:46:55,760
Speaker 1: on the fourth round. You know, maybe Blake, maybe Dalton

884
00:46:55,840 --> 00:46:57,839
Speaker 1: Schultz on that board was taken in the fourth round,

885
00:46:57,840 --> 00:47:00,160
Speaker 1: but they had the third round grade on him. They

886
00:47:00,440 --> 00:47:03,000
Speaker 1: they evaluated him to a point where they said, we

887
00:47:03,040 --> 00:47:05,960
Speaker 1: need to take him right now. See and you've seen

888
00:47:06,000 --> 00:47:10,360
Speaker 1: him protect these guys that just that fall as falling

889
00:47:10,360 --> 00:47:13,799
Speaker 1: a little bit your team. And see, like last night

890
00:47:13,800 --> 00:47:15,840
Speaker 1: we was doing the show. Shouldn't be that way because

891
00:47:15,840 --> 00:47:17,839
Speaker 1: the general manager is not going to get fired. Here

892
00:47:18,360 --> 00:47:22,000
Speaker 1: White White the quarterback, I'm you know, I'm laughing because

893
00:47:22,040 --> 00:47:24,640
Speaker 1: everybody talking like this guy. Do we keep three quarterbacks?

894
00:47:24,680 --> 00:47:27,560
Speaker 1: Of course not. We don't keep three quarterbacks. What White

895
00:47:27,600 --> 00:47:32,680
Speaker 1: should be doing is making them say okay, uh practice

896
00:47:32,680 --> 00:47:37,360
Speaker 1: squad and if another team say, hey, uh, this guy's

897
00:47:37,400 --> 00:47:39,719
Speaker 1: good enough to be better than that, well okay, well

898
00:47:39,800 --> 00:47:41,560
Speaker 1: let them get him in and they're developing. We just

899
00:47:41,560 --> 00:47:44,760
Speaker 1: get him back as a backup. We need to develop

900
00:47:44,800 --> 00:47:47,400
Speaker 1: out of these two or three years. Bring them on

901
00:47:47,520 --> 00:47:49,360
Speaker 1: back in it. That's what a lot of other teams do.

902
00:47:49,600 --> 00:47:52,960
Speaker 1: Like we was fortunate enough we lost Jackson. Didn't want

903
00:47:52,960 --> 00:47:56,000
Speaker 1: to lose Jackson. Jackson winning got hurt, came. Now he's

904
00:47:56,200 --> 00:47:57,759
Speaker 1: he's the guy. We think. You think it's a little

905
00:47:57,760 --> 00:48:01,880
Speaker 1: different than quarterbacks though, Nate, Yeah, I think he hasn't

906
00:48:01,920 --> 00:48:04,879
Speaker 1: beat that rush. See that that's what That's what. That's

907
00:48:04,920 --> 00:48:07,840
Speaker 1: what's so funny. Rush through. If they're gonna he's not

908
00:48:07,920 --> 00:48:10,480
Speaker 1: beat that rush. There's gonna be three potential spots of

909
00:48:10,520 --> 00:48:14,120
Speaker 1: the fifty three. They're gonna be protected picks, the tight end,

910
00:48:14,320 --> 00:48:18,319
Speaker 1: the running back, and the quarterback. Three potential. I don't think.

911
00:48:18,320 --> 00:48:19,440
Speaker 1: I don't know if they will. I don't know if

912
00:48:19,480 --> 00:48:22,960
Speaker 1: they'll protect I don't know if they'll protect are the

913
00:48:22,960 --> 00:48:26,279
Speaker 1: the linebacker. I don't know if they'll Yeah, I don't

914
00:48:26,320 --> 00:48:29,560
Speaker 1: know if they'll protect Covington. We'll see what about Armstrong.

915
00:48:30,239 --> 00:48:32,279
Speaker 1: But if yeah, if we had to pick out of

916
00:48:32,280 --> 00:48:36,239
Speaker 1: these three guys shouts, we had to pick out a

917
00:48:36,280 --> 00:48:39,560
Speaker 1: Covens and Shults, Scarborough and White? Who would be the

918
00:48:40,120 --> 00:48:42,600
Speaker 1: first guy to get on the field. That's how I

919
00:48:42,640 --> 00:48:45,719
Speaker 1: would look at it. Is Covington a better linebacker to

920
00:48:45,719 --> 00:48:47,680
Speaker 1: get on this get on the field, as as as

921
00:48:47,680 --> 00:48:53,959
Speaker 1: a special teams guy because Schultz? They would probably play

922
00:48:54,040 --> 00:48:59,239
Speaker 1: Schultz before they would play Covington. Special teams, yes, because yes, okay,

923
00:48:59,360 --> 00:49:01,960
Speaker 1: what no, No, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, No special teams

924
00:49:02,000 --> 00:49:04,359
Speaker 1: who can get on the field faster. Ye See, if

925
00:49:04,440 --> 00:49:07,279
Speaker 1: if I'm looking and I'm saying, okay, what gets us

926
00:49:07,320 --> 00:49:10,080
Speaker 1: to the playoffs? Well, Covingteam can be a special teams

927
00:49:10,080 --> 00:49:13,520
Speaker 1: player as as well as play his position. Schultz can

928
00:49:13,560 --> 00:49:15,319
Speaker 1: be a special team player. I don't know if we

929
00:49:15,320 --> 00:49:17,239
Speaker 1: can put him on the field. Yeah, you know what

930
00:49:17,239 --> 00:49:20,840
Speaker 1: I'm saying. White, White is White. He's gonna be sitting

931
00:49:20,920 --> 00:49:23,279
Speaker 1: right there regardless of what happened. The team can blow

932
00:49:23,360 --> 00:49:28,080
Speaker 1: up and he's still will be sitting there. If if

933
00:49:28,080 --> 00:49:34,000
Speaker 1: you were to keep Rico, would he would he get

934
00:49:34,080 --> 00:49:37,280
Speaker 1: more playing time during the regular season than the fifth

935
00:49:37,280 --> 00:49:41,720
Speaker 1: wide receiver? And should you just considering a wide receiver,

936
00:49:41,840 --> 00:49:44,200
Speaker 1: then that's that's probably how you would probably how you'd

937
00:49:44,200 --> 00:49:46,240
Speaker 1: analy that's probably how you look at because you'd probably

938
00:49:46,239 --> 00:49:48,920
Speaker 1: you'd probably carry four wide receivers to the game and

939
00:49:49,000 --> 00:49:52,600
Speaker 1: three tight ends and two backs with a full back.

940
00:49:53,160 --> 00:49:56,759
Speaker 1: So yeah, we play we played last to see this

941
00:49:56,800 --> 00:50:01,120
Speaker 1: is what's disturbing. We played last year will with Durant

942
00:50:01,239 --> 00:50:03,719
Speaker 1: who didn't play special teams, and then we played with

943
00:50:03,719 --> 00:50:07,240
Speaker 1: Sean Lee who didn't space special teams, and then Jayleen

944
00:50:07,320 --> 00:50:09,960
Speaker 1: Smith didn't play special teams. That did not make us

945
00:50:09,960 --> 00:50:13,919
Speaker 1: a better overall team because now we had the guy

946
00:50:13,960 --> 00:50:16,680
Speaker 1: that we traded for an assigned to the Raiders. Uh

947
00:50:17,320 --> 00:50:19,239
Speaker 1: what we know? They got him as a free agent,

948
00:50:20,560 --> 00:50:23,480
Speaker 1: the outside linebacker that we didn't want him to play snaps.

949
00:50:23,800 --> 00:50:25,880
Speaker 1: I can't think he was a special team's guru. I

950
00:50:25,920 --> 00:50:29,399
Speaker 1: liked him. Oh Keith Smith, No, Keith Smith is another

951
00:50:29,400 --> 00:50:31,400
Speaker 1: guy we shouldn't have lost. But it was a Devin's

952
00:50:31,400 --> 00:50:35,439
Speaker 1: even slash linebacker. Oh. Kyle Wilber, Yeah, Kyle Wilber. Kyle

953
00:50:35,480 --> 00:50:37,480
Speaker 1: Wilber is a type of guy. They didn't want him

954
00:50:37,480 --> 00:50:40,360
Speaker 1: on the field as a player every down player, but

955
00:50:40,400 --> 00:50:43,120
Speaker 1: they wanted him. Want to feel as a special teams guy. Well,

956
00:50:43,880 --> 00:50:46,160
Speaker 1: isn't it better to have a guy that can play

957
00:50:46,200 --> 00:50:48,440
Speaker 1: a position and get on the field if somebody get

958
00:50:48,520 --> 00:50:51,359
Speaker 1: hurt and build special teams? Guy, Ain't that's how you're

959
00:50:51,400 --> 00:50:54,520
Speaker 1: developing bill Guys, it ain't the other way around. Well,

960
00:50:54,920 --> 00:50:57,040
Speaker 1: he's good enough to see when I played, it wasn't

961
00:50:57,040 --> 00:50:59,279
Speaker 1: on Sarah count. So you can have a Kenny game

962
00:50:59,400 --> 00:51:02,719
Speaker 1: even though he play nickelback. You can have a two

963
00:51:02,840 --> 00:51:06,480
Speaker 1: or three guys like that. That was just team guys. Yeah,

964
00:51:06,520 --> 00:51:08,960
Speaker 1: but now you don't. You can't afford to do that.

965
00:51:10,280 --> 00:51:12,439
Speaker 1: I'll go back to this, and I don't keep saying that.

966
00:51:12,560 --> 00:51:15,040
Speaker 1: What are we trying to build here? We're trying to

967
00:51:15,080 --> 00:51:17,759
Speaker 1: build a team that's consistently can get us to the playoffs?

968
00:51:18,000 --> 00:51:20,440
Speaker 1: Are we trying to develop a bunch of guys that

969
00:51:20,800 --> 00:51:25,640
Speaker 1: on potential? Well maybe he'll get there? Oh no, maybe? Question? Okay,

970
00:51:25,880 --> 00:51:30,200
Speaker 1: well we all we got a guy like that. Gregory

971
00:51:30,320 --> 00:51:33,680
Speaker 1: is that guy? Yeah, you know where he's went through

972
00:51:33,719 --> 00:51:36,560
Speaker 1: and fought some demons. He's that guy. We got another one,

973
00:51:36,760 --> 00:51:40,040
Speaker 1: his name is David Irvy. We got guys like that.

974
00:51:40,040 --> 00:51:45,600
Speaker 1: They got super ungodly potential and they and they come

975
00:51:45,680 --> 00:51:53,320
Speaker 1: as they come. But guys like Rico Sholtz White who

976
00:51:53,680 --> 00:51:55,640
Speaker 1: may not get on the field for us this year,

977
00:51:55,680 --> 00:52:00,600
Speaker 1: Scarborough and we got more pressing kneeds at safety at

978
00:52:01,040 --> 00:52:04,719
Speaker 1: offensive line that can help us win. Now, make up

979
00:52:04,800 --> 00:52:08,200
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980
00:52:08,239 --> 00:52:11,200
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981
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982
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983
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984
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985
00:52:20,520 --> 00:52:24,799
Speaker 1: we can get rather Rico. Well, really, all right, let's

986
00:52:24,800 --> 00:52:26,719
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987
00:52:26,760 --> 00:52:29,439
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Speaker 1: up our whole culture around here. All right, we got

1049
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Speaker 1: about three minutes and we're gonna go to the phone room.

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00:55:38,000 --> 00:55:39,799
Speaker 1: It was the best time break I've ever seen in

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00:55:39,840 --> 00:55:43,160
Speaker 1: my life. Curtis in Vegas. You got like thirty seconds

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00:55:43,200 --> 00:55:45,920
Speaker 1: before and they cut you off. What's up? Man? I

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00:55:45,960 --> 00:55:50,719
Speaker 1: just wanted to let Curtain know that everybody's playing for him. Everybody. Hey,

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00:55:51,120 --> 00:55:53,440
Speaker 1: I've been I've been through some stuff myself and man,

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00:55:53,560 --> 00:55:56,320
Speaker 1: is glad you announced that on the air, because people

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00:55:56,320 --> 00:55:57,800
Speaker 1: that believe in the Lord, we're gonna play for you,

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00:55:57,880 --> 00:56:02,319
Speaker 1: all righty for real, man for real now, uh, And

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Speaker 1: I'm glad you didn't get on trying to talk about

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00:56:04,120 --> 00:56:08,560
Speaker 1: full wide receivers. Thank you for not doing that, all right.

1060
00:56:08,640 --> 00:56:10,680
Speaker 1: But but you know you already know. Like I said

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00:56:10,840 --> 00:56:13,000
Speaker 1: last time, I thought the certain wide receiver I want

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00:56:13,040 --> 00:56:15,080
Speaker 1: to see go go ahead and we can get it

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00:56:15,120 --> 00:56:17,120
Speaker 1: on Thomas for him. I wish that we can make

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00:56:17,160 --> 00:56:20,279
Speaker 1: that happen, or Rico Gagos, even if if we're gonna

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00:56:20,280 --> 00:56:22,279
Speaker 1: cut him and somebody else is gonna get him, and

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00:56:22,360 --> 00:56:24,319
Speaker 1: we might as well trade him and get something for him,

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00:56:24,400 --> 00:56:27,399
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah something, Yeah, but you better trade him

1068
00:56:27,440 --> 00:56:30,200
Speaker 1: with a second round pick. And Rico, that's the one

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00:56:30,239 --> 00:56:33,840
Speaker 1: where you start talking about getting that guy from Seattle.

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00:56:33,920 --> 00:56:36,839
Speaker 1: I promise you that thank you curse if that if

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00:56:36,840 --> 00:56:38,480
Speaker 1: we're gonna cut him and somebody gonna get him for

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00:56:38,480 --> 00:56:42,200
Speaker 1: nothing and we're not, what what's that curse? They'll try.

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00:56:42,360 --> 00:56:44,520
Speaker 1: I mean, you take your list of guys and you try,

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00:56:44,560 --> 00:56:46,279
Speaker 1: and they'll break three or four guys. You try and

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Speaker 1: ship Thanks Curt the call before we get here. So Yeah,

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00:56:49,600 --> 00:56:51,040
Speaker 1: what do you what do you do you think there's

1077
00:56:51,520 --> 00:56:53,600
Speaker 1: do you think there's any guys right now on this roster?

1078
00:56:53,680 --> 00:56:55,440
Speaker 1: Brought us and Nate brought this up. We got a

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00:56:55,440 --> 00:56:58,600
Speaker 1: couple of minutes left that you could trade and get something,

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00:56:58,640 --> 00:57:03,839
Speaker 1: get somebody for and be for real or seis, Jordan

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00:57:03,920 --> 00:57:07,239
Speaker 1: Lewis thank you? Maybe Anthony Brown thank you? Why didn't

1082
00:57:07,640 --> 00:57:11,759
Speaker 1: did Anthony Brown? He played? Okay? Last night? How much

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00:57:11,800 --> 00:57:14,840
Speaker 1: did he played? He was the first half type of

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00:57:14,840 --> 00:57:17,280
Speaker 1: a guy. Okay, he came up on a forced play,

1085
00:57:17,360 --> 00:57:19,800
Speaker 1: forced it back inside, He had a Paul he knocked down.

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00:57:19,840 --> 00:57:22,200
Speaker 1: He was in in coverage, so a lot better. Him

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00:57:22,200 --> 00:57:24,600
Speaker 1: and Jordan Lewis both were much. It's funny how either

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00:57:24,960 --> 00:57:28,120
Speaker 1: either they both play well together or they both Let

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Speaker 1: me ask you about Anthony Brown, it seems like and

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00:57:30,800 --> 00:57:33,920
Speaker 1: just from my eye, every time he plays, he's always

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00:57:33,920 --> 00:57:37,920
Speaker 1: around the ball. Yeah, like he's always making an interception

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00:57:38,040 --> 00:57:40,120
Speaker 1: or batting something down. What is it about him? What

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00:57:40,200 --> 00:57:42,000
Speaker 1: can he figure out? Why can't he get on the field?

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00:57:42,000 --> 00:57:44,920
Speaker 1: Anthony Brown? Yeah, the problem is you remember last year

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00:57:44,920 --> 00:57:47,360
Speaker 1: as a starter, he hells he held way too much.

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00:57:47,400 --> 00:57:51,760
Speaker 1: He needs a real handsy, grabby kind of a uh

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00:57:51,800 --> 00:57:54,760
Speaker 1: you know, defensive back. If in the Bengals game the

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00:57:54,760 --> 00:57:57,040
Speaker 1: other day, they get off the field and what happens.

1099
00:57:57,080 --> 00:57:58,760
Speaker 1: He gets a defensive holding point and then they go

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00:57:58,800 --> 00:58:02,360
Speaker 1: eleven plays and score a touchdown after that. So, yeah,

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00:58:02,480 --> 00:58:05,440
Speaker 1: he's one of those guys. His confidence probably got shook

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00:58:05,480 --> 00:58:07,720
Speaker 1: a little bit as a as a starter. Last year.

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00:58:08,040 --> 00:58:09,960
Speaker 1: They took him off as a starter and put him

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Speaker 1: into Nickels stuff, and he actually played pretty good the

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Speaker 1: last month of the season. Brother, hold On, hold on,

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Speaker 1: hold on, I got I gotta say this, Hey, what

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00:58:17,680 --> 00:58:23,000
Speaker 1: New York just got smarter paid ninety five for five years.

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00:58:23,040 --> 00:58:26,640
Speaker 1: I was guarantee. I'm sorry for sixty five sixty five million.

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00:58:26,640 --> 00:58:28,840
Speaker 1: I think it's a guaranto. He's gives some money back

1110
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Speaker 1: to LSU. That's what he needs to do, buy some

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00:58:31,880 --> 00:58:36,200
Speaker 1: more players Alabama. Yeah, no, I think that you know,

1112
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Speaker 1: there's there's there's there's certain players on this team. Yes,

1113
00:58:39,280 --> 00:58:41,680
Speaker 1: you can trade. I think if somebody needs some linebacker

1114
00:58:41,800 --> 00:58:44,320
Speaker 1: depth that maybe you have one or two guys that

1115
00:58:44,360 --> 00:58:46,720
Speaker 1: you can move. Now you have vander Esh you know,

1116
00:58:46,800 --> 00:58:48,760
Speaker 1: you really don't know what you mean. You think you

1117
00:58:48,840 --> 00:58:50,680
Speaker 1: know what you have with him just looking at his

1118
00:58:50,720 --> 00:58:53,480
Speaker 1: college reports, but you know, if you if you wanted

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Speaker 1: to move Joe Thomas. Oh no, oh no, but see

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Speaker 1: this is okay. This is the reaction. This is the

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00:59:00,920 --> 00:59:06,360
Speaker 1: reaction that personnel guys just put aside because if I

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Speaker 1: move somebody it's good, just like I say, Joe Thomas

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Speaker 1: or somebody like when the cornerbacks, I want a good

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Speaker 1: player back. Yeah, I am not going to be able

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Speaker 1: to trade Chaz Green and get Earl Thomas. That doesn't

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Speaker 1: work in the NFL. They watch tape two in New York,

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00:59:24,960 --> 00:59:30,040
Speaker 1: both New York teams. Joe Thomas replaces Sean Lee. There

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Speaker 1: you go. Joe Thomas replaces the Mike Backer, and I

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Speaker 1: think he goes in from my assumption ahead of vendoris

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Speaker 1: that's what I would do. See, But I'm just saying

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Speaker 1: I made him heavy reaction of no way I would

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Speaker 1: do that. But I know, deep down inside, if he

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Speaker 1: was at the other end, he'd ask me for Joe Thomas,

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Speaker 1: and I'd ask him for something just as good. Yeah,

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00:59:52,400 --> 00:59:55,200
Speaker 1: and my reaction and his reaction would be, man, I

1136
00:59:55,240 --> 00:59:57,160
Speaker 1: am not you know he I'm trying to give him

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Speaker 1: something better that he needs. That's how this is gonna work.

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Speaker 1: You cannot. That's why Seattle's whole. Seattle doesn't have to

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01:00:03,680 --> 01:00:07,040
Speaker 1: trade Earl Thomas. Seattle knows that Earle time he's gonna

1140
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Speaker 1: play right. Seattle knows that rule Thomas is not gonna

1141
01:00:09,240 --> 01:00:11,800
Speaker 1: leave eight hundred thousand dollars a week on the table. Yeah,

1142
01:00:11,800 --> 01:00:15,120
Speaker 1: it's not gonna happen. So he could, he could, he can,

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01:00:15,480 --> 01:00:18,640
Speaker 1: He could kick moan, bitch and scream all he wants,

1144
01:00:19,440 --> 01:00:22,080
Speaker 1: But when those checks start not coming around every Tuesday,

1145
01:00:22,280 --> 01:00:23,960
Speaker 1: he'll be on the field, be on the field, and

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01:00:24,000 --> 01:00:25,840
Speaker 1: he'll be winning to work something so he can get

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Speaker 1: some of that bad right from well broad us man.

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Speaker 1: It's always great when you thank you. Thanks Austin, Nate,

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Speaker 1: thanks for bringing it. The potential is good when when

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01:00:36,120 --> 01:00:39,240
Speaker 1: it's being drafted, not after it gets drafted. A net

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Speaker 1: before four tight ends for Douglas, thank you for pushing

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Speaker 1: the buttons. G't thanks for doing what you do. We

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Speaker 1: will be I don't know what the show schedule is

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Speaker 1: this week. I think we're talking about it today at

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Speaker 1: four o'clock, So check the website. Yeah, check the website

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Speaker 1: and it'll be up sometime today or tomorrow. And we'll

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Speaker 1: see you when we see you and hanging with a boys.

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Speaker 1: This has been a prettycution of Dallas cowboys dot com

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