1 00:00:00,400 --> 00:00:04,920 Speaker 1: Don't every day up waiting clicks up the breakfast club. 2 00:00:05,160 --> 00:00:06,400 Speaker 2: You don't finish for y'all dumb. 3 00:00:07,040 --> 00:00:08,559 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's the world most dangerous morning to show to 4 00:00:08,600 --> 00:00:11,200 Speaker 1: Breakfast Club. Charlamagne and God, DJ Mby and Jess aren't 5 00:00:11,240 --> 00:00:13,440 Speaker 1: in today, but Lauren Lorossa is here, and we got 6 00:00:13,480 --> 00:00:15,440 Speaker 1: a special guest, a legend. 7 00:00:15,120 --> 00:00:18,480 Speaker 3: Who made the MMA mainstream. Mitch ron de Rowsey is here. 8 00:00:18,880 --> 00:00:19,639 Speaker 4: Thank you for having me. 9 00:00:19,760 --> 00:00:21,520 Speaker 3: Good morning. How you feeling fantastic? 10 00:00:21,560 --> 00:00:23,160 Speaker 4: I mean it's still bitter earlier, but you know you 11 00:00:23,160 --> 00:00:25,880 Speaker 4: don't get up this early. I mean, my kids get 12 00:00:25,920 --> 00:00:27,520 Speaker 4: me up this early. I don't get up this early. 13 00:00:27,640 --> 00:00:29,440 Speaker 4: I'm on my own. But I haven't had a choice 14 00:00:29,480 --> 00:00:30,080 Speaker 4: in a long time. 15 00:00:30,240 --> 00:00:33,200 Speaker 1: Absolutely, But you got a comic book, got a graphic 16 00:00:33,280 --> 00:00:35,680 Speaker 1: novel called Expecting the Unexpected. 17 00:00:35,680 --> 00:00:38,160 Speaker 3: What made you want to step into the comic book world? 18 00:00:38,960 --> 00:00:39,240 Speaker 5: Uh? 19 00:00:39,600 --> 00:00:42,919 Speaker 4: You know what? I It wasn't like a conscious decision. 20 00:00:43,120 --> 00:00:46,199 Speaker 4: It was more of like I really wanted to be 21 00:00:46,280 --> 00:00:49,479 Speaker 4: able to tell the story, and I just kind of 22 00:00:49,479 --> 00:00:51,680 Speaker 4: became obsessed with it. And once I wrote the first 23 00:00:51,760 --> 00:00:54,640 Speaker 4: draft of it, and then like an eleven hour thumb typing, 24 00:00:54,720 --> 00:00:59,520 Speaker 4: I like in my notes, binge, I just became obsessed 25 00:00:59,520 --> 00:01:01,800 Speaker 4: with fining the story and getting it out there, and 26 00:01:02,360 --> 00:01:05,479 Speaker 4: once the idea of making into a graphic novel came up, 27 00:01:05,520 --> 00:01:09,520 Speaker 4: it was like I couldn't stop and a little bit 28 00:01:09,520 --> 00:01:11,759 Speaker 4: of an obsessive personality when it comes to like pursuing 29 00:01:11,760 --> 00:01:15,040 Speaker 4: goals and here we are and there's a physical copy, 30 00:01:15,200 --> 00:01:15,520 Speaker 4: right yere. 31 00:01:16,560 --> 00:01:19,160 Speaker 5: I feel like people have always looked at you and 32 00:01:19,280 --> 00:01:21,479 Speaker 5: everything that you've done is kind of like a mythical 33 00:01:21,880 --> 00:01:24,920 Speaker 5: like story, even your name. It's like if you've never 34 00:01:24,959 --> 00:01:27,959 Speaker 5: even like watched I fight, you know, Ronda Browsey, what 35 00:01:28,120 --> 00:01:30,200 Speaker 5: have been moments for you in your career where you're like, 36 00:01:30,280 --> 00:01:33,400 Speaker 5: oh wow, like this is happening and this is actually happening. 37 00:01:34,000 --> 00:01:35,959 Speaker 4: Oh god. Well, I think when I first won the 38 00:01:36,000 --> 00:01:39,640 Speaker 4: UFC title, I was like it was one of those 39 00:01:39,680 --> 00:01:42,720 Speaker 4: moments where like, don't quote that video from that kid 40 00:01:42,760 --> 00:01:45,679 Speaker 4: that just woke up from dental surgery and I had 41 00:01:45,680 --> 00:01:47,880 Speaker 4: to do it, you know. So that was one of 42 00:01:47,920 --> 00:01:51,240 Speaker 4: those it's like this is real life, you know. Joe 43 00:01:51,280 --> 00:01:53,240 Speaker 4: Rogan's like, what's your impression, I'm like, I need to 44 00:01:53,320 --> 00:01:56,200 Speaker 4: quote the dentist kid, and then that was That was 45 00:01:56,240 --> 00:01:58,760 Speaker 4: one of them. But there's been quite a few or 46 00:01:58,880 --> 00:02:02,080 Speaker 4: have been like I just feel like I'm just watching 47 00:02:02,120 --> 00:02:05,200 Speaker 4: somebody else's experience. It's making me believe in like simulation 48 00:02:05,360 --> 00:02:07,760 Speaker 4: theory kind of, you know, like, Ooh, if I got 49 00:02:07,800 --> 00:02:10,520 Speaker 4: to pick anyone's lifetime to live, I'm gonna pick the 50 00:02:10,560 --> 00:02:12,120 Speaker 4: Ronda Rousei lifetime. I'm gonna live that. 51 00:02:15,160 --> 00:02:19,560 Speaker 3: Jesus Seid gosh. But so you would, you would pick 52 00:02:19,600 --> 00:02:21,120 Speaker 3: it over and over what you're saying. 53 00:02:21,120 --> 00:02:23,480 Speaker 4: I don't know. I like the life I've lived is 54 00:02:23,480 --> 00:02:25,960 Speaker 4: so interesting. I'm like, man, I feel like if I 55 00:02:26,000 --> 00:02:28,519 Speaker 4: had to like select someone's lifetime to live, I'm like, oh, 56 00:02:28,520 --> 00:02:30,600 Speaker 4: I want to pick the Ronda Rousei lifetime, you know, 57 00:02:30,720 --> 00:02:33,400 Speaker 4: and try and live that because it's been so ridiculous. 58 00:02:33,440 --> 00:02:38,200 Speaker 4: I don't know, Like sometimes I can't even believe it's happening. 59 00:02:38,400 --> 00:02:41,760 Speaker 1: You were the first woman to sign with the UFC, right, 60 00:02:41,880 --> 00:02:44,240 Speaker 1: you put a woman's mma on the map. When you 61 00:02:44,280 --> 00:02:47,640 Speaker 1: look back, what do you think your real legacy is 62 00:02:47,680 --> 00:02:49,760 Speaker 1: it the winds au the walls you broke down. 63 00:02:50,160 --> 00:02:53,920 Speaker 4: I think it's giving women in combat sports a career, 64 00:02:54,280 --> 00:02:56,880 Speaker 4: and that didn't exist before. You know, I won an 65 00:02:56,919 --> 00:02:59,079 Speaker 4: Olympic medal and came home and was like, maybe I'll 66 00:02:59,120 --> 00:03:02,200 Speaker 4: be a cocktail waitress. You know, there was nothing you 67 00:03:02,240 --> 00:03:02,679 Speaker 4: need do? 68 00:03:02,960 --> 00:03:03,519 Speaker 3: Yeah. Wow. 69 00:03:03,600 --> 00:03:07,120 Speaker 4: And so now it's really leaked over not just from MMA, 70 00:03:07,320 --> 00:03:11,040 Speaker 4: but into you know, boxing and pro wrestling, that women 71 00:03:11,120 --> 00:03:14,560 Speaker 4: are really making like you know, record breaking paydays and 72 00:03:14,600 --> 00:03:17,240 Speaker 4: stuff like that, and actually able to make a living 73 00:03:17,240 --> 00:03:20,400 Speaker 4: in career from combat sports, which I feel like, you know, 74 00:03:20,960 --> 00:03:21,920 Speaker 4: I had a big part of that. 75 00:03:22,080 --> 00:03:23,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, I never thought about that. 76 00:03:23,240 --> 00:03:26,640 Speaker 1: I mean I read, you know, Don Staley's book Uncommon Favor, 77 00:03:26,680 --> 00:03:28,120 Speaker 1: and it was kind of a similar story. You have 78 00:03:28,200 --> 00:03:30,760 Speaker 1: this amazing career in college, you go off to the 79 00:03:30,800 --> 00:03:32,920 Speaker 1: Olympics and you win a medal, but then it's just 80 00:03:32,960 --> 00:03:35,160 Speaker 1: like it's like you come home and it's like, Okay, 81 00:03:35,280 --> 00:03:37,200 Speaker 1: what am I supposed to do? Now I've done everything 82 00:03:37,200 --> 00:03:38,480 Speaker 1: that they told me I was supposed to do, But 83 00:03:38,480 --> 00:03:39,920 Speaker 1: then what's the next phase of my life? 84 00:03:39,960 --> 00:03:41,560 Speaker 3: Looked like it's got to be like a mind fuck 85 00:03:41,640 --> 00:03:42,440 Speaker 3: for women, right. 86 00:03:42,520 --> 00:03:45,320 Speaker 4: I mean for everybody. It's like you call it like 87 00:03:45,360 --> 00:03:48,520 Speaker 4: post Olympic depression, and that you just spend your whole 88 00:03:48,560 --> 00:03:51,280 Speaker 4: life going after this one goal and you tell yourself, 89 00:03:51,320 --> 00:03:53,160 Speaker 4: if I achieved this one thing, it'll make me so 90 00:03:53,320 --> 00:03:56,240 Speaker 4: happy that that happiness will leak over into the rest 91 00:03:56,280 --> 00:03:58,120 Speaker 4: of my life and I'll just be happy forever because 92 00:03:58,160 --> 00:03:59,600 Speaker 4: I did this one thing. I mean, how could you 93 00:03:59,640 --> 00:04:03,200 Speaker 4: not be you want in the Olympics or whatever. And 94 00:04:03,280 --> 00:04:05,520 Speaker 4: then you go and achieve that goal and you're happy 95 00:04:05,520 --> 00:04:07,280 Speaker 4: for a little bit, and then you know, you return 96 00:04:07,360 --> 00:04:09,280 Speaker 4: to the rest of your life and you realize that 97 00:04:09,480 --> 00:04:12,920 Speaker 4: your happiness isn't a collection of accomplishments. It's a lifestyle. 98 00:04:13,000 --> 00:04:16,400 Speaker 4: And you know a lot of times that what you 99 00:04:16,520 --> 00:04:18,520 Speaker 4: build up that accomplishment to be and what it will 100 00:04:18,520 --> 00:04:20,800 Speaker 4: do for you is, you know, not not exactly what 101 00:04:20,839 --> 00:04:21,440 Speaker 4: you expected. 102 00:04:22,120 --> 00:04:24,080 Speaker 5: But is that is there a hard balance for you 103 00:04:24,120 --> 00:04:27,000 Speaker 5: of every moment is like, oh my god, I got 104 00:04:27,000 --> 00:04:29,080 Speaker 5: to do this so well because it may not happen 105 00:04:29,120 --> 00:04:31,920 Speaker 5: again because you've you've been the first doing so much 106 00:04:32,000 --> 00:04:35,320 Speaker 5: within this space, is there like a pressure of you 107 00:04:35,360 --> 00:04:37,480 Speaker 5: feel like, Okay, things are just happening as they should, 108 00:04:37,520 --> 00:04:39,680 Speaker 5: but also what if I don't get this chance again? 109 00:04:39,720 --> 00:04:41,480 Speaker 5: What if I don't get this opportunity to again because 110 00:04:42,279 --> 00:04:44,080 Speaker 5: they weren't they weren't out there in the beginning. 111 00:04:44,320 --> 00:04:48,240 Speaker 4: I mean, yeah, that that pressure I think exists all 112 00:04:48,279 --> 00:04:51,240 Speaker 4: the time. And it's not just that like in one 113 00:04:51,279 --> 00:04:54,000 Speaker 4: thing that you do, but if you fail once, then 114 00:04:54,160 --> 00:04:56,920 Speaker 4: everything that you've accomplished before that really, you know, gets 115 00:04:56,960 --> 00:04:59,040 Speaker 4: wiped wiped away. It means nothing. My mom had a 116 00:04:59,080 --> 00:05:00,760 Speaker 4: saying that you're only as good is your last fight. 117 00:05:01,640 --> 00:05:04,080 Speaker 4: And you know what I mean, like, what have you 118 00:05:04,120 --> 00:05:09,200 Speaker 4: done lately? Kind of a thing. And yeah, it's I 119 00:05:09,240 --> 00:05:12,520 Speaker 4: think every every one time that you come to that 120 00:05:12,520 --> 00:05:16,479 Speaker 4: that situation, those high pressure situations, it's it doesn't get 121 00:05:16,520 --> 00:05:19,880 Speaker 4: any less or any easier, but I guess you get 122 00:05:19,960 --> 00:05:22,800 Speaker 4: more more confident in your ability to deal with it. 123 00:05:22,839 --> 00:05:24,719 Speaker 4: I used to get really scared of my own nerves, 124 00:05:24,839 --> 00:05:27,360 Speaker 4: you know, and like when my heart would beat really 125 00:05:27,360 --> 00:05:29,479 Speaker 4: fast or something about like a little kid and I 126 00:05:29,520 --> 00:05:32,120 Speaker 4: was about to have like a fight or match or something, 127 00:05:32,760 --> 00:05:35,159 Speaker 4: and I would get like, oh, what if I get 128 00:05:35,200 --> 00:05:37,799 Speaker 4: tired because I've been nervous for so long, my heart's 129 00:05:37,800 --> 00:05:41,359 Speaker 4: been beating for so long, And I would get nervous 130 00:05:41,360 --> 00:05:44,240 Speaker 4: about the fact that I was nervous. And then eventually 131 00:05:44,760 --> 00:05:48,240 Speaker 4: you get in that situation and you succeed enough times 132 00:05:48,279 --> 00:05:50,680 Speaker 4: that you realize, Okay, this is what happens to my 133 00:05:50,720 --> 00:05:53,800 Speaker 4: body before I do something great, and my heart could 134 00:05:53,800 --> 00:05:55,359 Speaker 4: beat like this all day long and I'll still be 135 00:05:55,400 --> 00:05:58,640 Speaker 4: able to have enough, you know, and endurance to keep going. 136 00:05:58,720 --> 00:06:02,680 Speaker 4: And so I started thinking of like that feeling and 137 00:06:02,720 --> 00:06:05,640 Speaker 4: that fear is kind of not something to be scared of, 138 00:06:05,720 --> 00:06:07,919 Speaker 4: but like it's more of like the revving of my engine, 139 00:06:07,960 --> 00:06:10,000 Speaker 4: you know, before before I take off. 140 00:06:10,360 --> 00:06:13,480 Speaker 1: I've heard you speak about, you know, after losses. You 141 00:06:13,520 --> 00:06:15,440 Speaker 1: spoke about like being in a doc mental space and 142 00:06:15,480 --> 00:06:18,360 Speaker 1: having like I guess, an identity crisis. What do those 143 00:06:18,400 --> 00:06:23,000 Speaker 1: moments teach you about your self worth beyond just winning 144 00:06:23,040 --> 00:06:23,440 Speaker 1: and losing. 145 00:06:24,279 --> 00:06:29,720 Speaker 4: Well, I think when I lost, it wasn't just oh, 146 00:06:29,760 --> 00:06:32,080 Speaker 4: I lost a fight, you know, because people will be like, oh, 147 00:06:32,240 --> 00:06:34,880 Speaker 4: how could you feel get that depressed about just losing 148 00:06:34,920 --> 00:06:36,080 Speaker 4: a fight? It's not the big of a deal. It 149 00:06:36,160 --> 00:06:37,200 Speaker 4: was like, of course, it's not the big of a 150 00:06:37,200 --> 00:06:39,080 Speaker 4: deal to you because you've never been in that situation. 151 00:06:40,960 --> 00:06:44,080 Speaker 4: But to me, it was more of like I knew 152 00:06:44,080 --> 00:06:48,400 Speaker 4: my fighting career was over, and yeah, I knew because 153 00:06:48,400 --> 00:06:51,160 Speaker 4: I'd been dealing with I just had like a lot 154 00:06:51,200 --> 00:06:53,359 Speaker 4: of like neurological issues that I've been dealing with that 155 00:06:53,400 --> 00:06:56,800 Speaker 4: I hadn't been able to tell anyone about. Because you're 156 00:06:56,800 --> 00:06:58,719 Speaker 4: the chance you can't let anyone know that you have 157 00:06:58,760 --> 00:07:01,839 Speaker 4: any weakness, you know, if anything, like people thinking I 158 00:07:01,880 --> 00:07:04,320 Speaker 4: haven't a weakness that like that does a lot of 159 00:07:04,360 --> 00:07:06,760 Speaker 4: the work for me, you know, upfront, and so kind 160 00:07:06,760 --> 00:07:09,240 Speaker 4: of portraying that was really important and not letting anyone 161 00:07:09,279 --> 00:07:12,640 Speaker 4: know what was what was going on with me. So 162 00:07:13,160 --> 00:07:14,920 Speaker 4: when it finally cut up to me, I like I 163 00:07:15,000 --> 00:07:18,200 Speaker 4: knew that it was over, and I didn't really want 164 00:07:18,240 --> 00:07:21,800 Speaker 4: to own, you know, accept it. And I was like 165 00:07:21,880 --> 00:07:25,120 Speaker 4: that kind of identity crisis. If I'm not a fighter, 166 00:07:25,120 --> 00:07:28,280 Speaker 4: who am I? And you're so like especially if you're 167 00:07:28,320 --> 00:07:31,240 Speaker 4: into your expertise and you're you're so obsessed with it 168 00:07:31,280 --> 00:07:33,840 Speaker 4: for so long and you just become that fraction of 169 00:07:33,840 --> 00:07:37,520 Speaker 4: your personality, you know, and you forget of who you 170 00:07:37,560 --> 00:07:39,760 Speaker 4: are outside of it. And then suddenly it was like 171 00:07:40,120 --> 00:07:42,000 Speaker 4: ripped away from me and I didn't know who I 172 00:07:42,120 --> 00:07:44,080 Speaker 4: was if I wasn't a fighter and not just a fighter, 173 00:07:44,080 --> 00:07:44,760 Speaker 4: but a champion. 174 00:07:45,680 --> 00:07:49,440 Speaker 3: Do you believe elite athletes a condition to suppress vulnerability? 175 00:07:50,320 --> 00:07:53,280 Speaker 4: I mean, yeah, you kind of have to, especially like 176 00:07:53,400 --> 00:07:56,760 Speaker 4: a like a contact sport, but I think anybody that 177 00:07:56,920 --> 00:08:00,800 Speaker 4: is in a high pressure situation and that's that just 178 00:08:00,920 --> 00:08:01,600 Speaker 4: comes with it. 179 00:08:01,680 --> 00:08:02,840 Speaker 3: But you gotta think. 180 00:08:02,960 --> 00:08:06,040 Speaker 1: When you walk in that that ring, there's a chance 181 00:08:06,120 --> 00:08:07,640 Speaker 1: you could lose, right like it. 182 00:08:07,880 --> 00:08:11,320 Speaker 4: I mean, that's why you're in there wrestling, you know, 183 00:08:12,560 --> 00:08:15,000 Speaker 4: And that's that's part of it. That's like part of 184 00:08:15,000 --> 00:08:17,880 Speaker 4: what I think brings the best out of me. You know, 185 00:08:18,000 --> 00:08:22,640 Speaker 4: some people, they they they they do better in low 186 00:08:22,680 --> 00:08:25,040 Speaker 4: pressure situations. You know, they try to make it not 187 00:08:25,080 --> 00:08:26,960 Speaker 4: such a big deal, and that's when they're their best, 188 00:08:26,960 --> 00:08:30,240 Speaker 4: when they can really relax like that. And I just 189 00:08:30,600 --> 00:08:34,240 Speaker 4: realized I'm the kind of person that needs that that pressure. 190 00:08:34,360 --> 00:08:37,560 Speaker 4: You know. I fight above myself under under pressure. So 191 00:08:37,960 --> 00:08:40,439 Speaker 4: it's not exactly enjoyable, but it brings the best out 192 00:08:40,440 --> 00:08:40,599 Speaker 4: of me. 193 00:08:40,720 --> 00:08:43,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that's a present vulner Suppressing vulnerability eventually 194 00:08:43,920 --> 00:08:45,600 Speaker 1: breaks you down because I'm a person that deals with 195 00:08:45,720 --> 00:08:48,560 Speaker 1: like really bad anxiety, right like, I'm going in there 196 00:08:48,559 --> 00:08:51,080 Speaker 1: before for a long, long, long time. But I think 197 00:08:51,120 --> 00:08:54,520 Speaker 1: that Ryan Holliday, well, I love I love soul SYSM. 198 00:08:54,920 --> 00:08:57,520 Speaker 1: He you know, you got to remember, like one day 199 00:08:57,520 --> 00:08:59,880 Speaker 1: you're going to die, right like, and that gives you 200 00:08:59,880 --> 00:09:02,679 Speaker 1: just the sense of freedom knowing that you wake up 201 00:09:02,720 --> 00:09:05,240 Speaker 1: in the every day and just live your best because 202 00:09:05,240 --> 00:09:07,640 Speaker 1: anything could happen, it could potentially be your last day. 203 00:09:07,640 --> 00:09:09,760 Speaker 1: I would feel like if you're going to going through 204 00:09:09,760 --> 00:09:11,960 Speaker 1: the ring all the time thinking that you you know, 205 00:09:12,440 --> 00:09:14,760 Speaker 1: you're suppressing your vulnerability, eventually it could just break you 206 00:09:14,840 --> 00:09:15,760 Speaker 1: down mentally. 207 00:09:15,800 --> 00:09:16,800 Speaker 3: Outside the ring. 208 00:09:17,360 --> 00:09:20,360 Speaker 4: I think if you don't take any time away from it, 209 00:09:20,440 --> 00:09:23,040 Speaker 4: and if it's constant and NonStop, and I think that's 210 00:09:23,400 --> 00:09:28,560 Speaker 4: one of the one of the things that I didn't 211 00:09:28,600 --> 00:09:31,520 Speaker 4: do it was I didn't take any time away. And 212 00:09:32,640 --> 00:09:36,720 Speaker 4: you know, there's if you're holding up basically the whole 213 00:09:36,720 --> 00:09:39,120 Speaker 4: company at that point, you know, and I like took 214 00:09:39,120 --> 00:09:41,520 Speaker 4: a blood oath to Dana, like you sign me and 215 00:09:41,559 --> 00:09:43,439 Speaker 4: I will be your fucking girl and anything that you need. 216 00:09:43,440 --> 00:09:46,640 Speaker 4: I don't know if I can swear in here, but 217 00:09:48,040 --> 00:09:51,320 Speaker 4: it gets to a point where if you're trying to 218 00:09:51,320 --> 00:09:54,200 Speaker 4: be everything to everyone, you're not going to have much 219 00:09:54,320 --> 00:09:57,920 Speaker 4: much left for yourself. And you're in that in mind 220 00:09:57,920 --> 00:09:59,600 Speaker 4: space of like, oh, I want to be a champion, 221 00:10:00,080 --> 00:10:03,640 Speaker 4: and you can't admit any weakness and you can't ever 222 00:10:03,679 --> 00:10:05,240 Speaker 4: speak up and say, like, you know what, I need 223 00:10:05,240 --> 00:10:08,040 Speaker 4: a rest, you know, I need a moment to not 224 00:10:08,840 --> 00:10:12,760 Speaker 4: to not be on all the time. And it's uh, 225 00:10:13,520 --> 00:10:15,280 Speaker 4: I don't know, it's kind of hard, like you can't 226 00:10:15,360 --> 00:10:18,280 Speaker 4: really be in a place where you have no weakness, 227 00:10:18,320 --> 00:10:20,640 Speaker 4: you know, to admit yourself that you have no weaknesses, 228 00:10:20,679 --> 00:10:23,440 Speaker 4: and then at the same time be like, yeah, I 229 00:10:23,440 --> 00:10:28,080 Speaker 4: need a break badest a woman on the planet needs 230 00:10:28,080 --> 00:10:28,680 Speaker 4: to fucking sit. 231 00:10:29,800 --> 00:10:31,040 Speaker 2: But what do you do in those breaks? 232 00:10:31,040 --> 00:10:33,320 Speaker 5: So, like you said, you you talked about not knowing 233 00:10:33,320 --> 00:10:35,440 Speaker 5: who you were if you know, your career was taken 234 00:10:35,480 --> 00:10:38,079 Speaker 5: away from you, and having to discover that who are 235 00:10:38,120 --> 00:10:38,719 Speaker 5: you outside of this? 236 00:10:38,800 --> 00:10:40,240 Speaker 2: And what do you do when you need those breaks? 237 00:10:40,640 --> 00:10:44,320 Speaker 4: I think you need to Well, what I found was 238 00:10:44,760 --> 00:10:48,040 Speaker 4: I had to find something else outside of that that 239 00:10:48,280 --> 00:10:50,560 Speaker 4: you know, I could be passionate about and find find 240 00:10:50,640 --> 00:10:54,040 Speaker 4: value in. And that's what brought me into pro wrestling 241 00:10:54,080 --> 00:10:56,520 Speaker 4: and the WWE, and that's what, you know, brought me 242 00:10:56,559 --> 00:10:59,320 Speaker 4: into writing comics and stuff like that and being a 243 00:10:59,320 --> 00:11:03,000 Speaker 4: writer and seeing things that, like, you know, a lot 244 00:11:03,000 --> 00:11:05,680 Speaker 4: of people, all they wanted to see me do is 245 00:11:05,840 --> 00:11:08,160 Speaker 4: hurt other people, you know, and that's where they see 246 00:11:08,200 --> 00:11:12,040 Speaker 4: that My value is in, you know, is in fighting people. 247 00:11:12,080 --> 00:11:15,840 Speaker 4: And and I had to try and look for something 248 00:11:15,880 --> 00:11:19,400 Speaker 4: in myself that other people weren't weren't asking for. And 249 00:11:19,440 --> 00:11:22,360 Speaker 4: that's kind of what this whole journey of becoming, you know, 250 00:11:23,200 --> 00:11:27,040 Speaker 4: a writer has been of, Like I nobody asked me 251 00:11:27,080 --> 00:11:28,960 Speaker 4: to do a comic. Nobody was expecting me to do 252 00:11:29,000 --> 00:11:31,200 Speaker 4: a comic. No one's expecting me to make a good comic. 253 00:11:32,320 --> 00:11:35,319 Speaker 4: But it was something that I just kind of became 254 00:11:35,600 --> 00:11:39,160 Speaker 4: obsessed with and it mattered to me, and I willed 255 00:11:39,200 --> 00:11:42,559 Speaker 4: it into reality and I'm so so proud of it. 256 00:11:42,600 --> 00:11:48,400 Speaker 4: And yeah, might not be like the it might not 257 00:11:48,440 --> 00:11:51,320 Speaker 4: be winning the Nobel Prize in Literature or anything like that, 258 00:11:51,400 --> 00:11:54,520 Speaker 4: but it really means a lot to me personally, and 259 00:11:55,000 --> 00:11:57,520 Speaker 4: I think that's something that I needed to find outside 260 00:11:57,559 --> 00:12:01,559 Speaker 4: of I don't know, just kind of like that achievement 261 00:12:01,640 --> 00:12:05,720 Speaker 4: hunting kind of mentality of like I'm not trying to 262 00:12:05,920 --> 00:12:08,480 Speaker 4: achieve something to convince myself for everyone else how awesome 263 00:12:08,520 --> 00:12:10,640 Speaker 4: I am. I won't trying to achieve something because I 264 00:12:10,720 --> 00:12:14,360 Speaker 4: find it personally fulfilling to me, which is a huge pivot. 265 00:12:14,520 --> 00:12:14,720 Speaker 4: You know. 266 00:12:14,920 --> 00:12:17,920 Speaker 3: Do you see the comic book as an evolution or escape? 267 00:12:18,360 --> 00:12:22,520 Speaker 4: Ooh, I think it is an escape in a way. 268 00:12:22,720 --> 00:12:24,240 Speaker 4: You know, I think a lot of time you say 269 00:12:24,320 --> 00:12:26,079 Speaker 4: that you deal with like a lot of anxiety and stuff. 270 00:12:26,080 --> 00:12:28,240 Speaker 4: I had had a lot of problems with like intruding, 271 00:12:28,440 --> 00:12:31,480 Speaker 4: intrusive thoughts and stuff like that, and not being able 272 00:12:31,559 --> 00:12:34,080 Speaker 4: to direct where my own my own thoughts would go. 273 00:12:34,160 --> 00:12:36,600 Speaker 4: And so whenever I found myself going down like kind 274 00:12:36,600 --> 00:12:40,400 Speaker 4: of like a destructive like path with whatever I was 275 00:12:40,440 --> 00:12:43,600 Speaker 4: thinking about, I would purposefully direct my mind back to 276 00:12:43,640 --> 00:12:46,920 Speaker 4: it what I was doing creatively, you know, when writing 277 00:12:46,960 --> 00:12:49,520 Speaker 4: the story or something like that. And so if I 278 00:12:49,559 --> 00:12:52,199 Speaker 4: started like picking at myself mentally, you know what I mean, 279 00:12:52,240 --> 00:12:54,320 Speaker 4: like just picking out your own scabs of your brain 280 00:12:55,120 --> 00:12:58,200 Speaker 4: and being like, you know, what's not that like slap 281 00:12:58,240 --> 00:13:00,480 Speaker 4: my own hand and be like, Okay, what's going on 282 00:13:00,920 --> 00:13:02,480 Speaker 4: your story? How can you make this better? How can 283 00:13:02,520 --> 00:13:05,280 Speaker 4: I make this line of dialogue land better? How can 284 00:13:05,679 --> 00:13:08,080 Speaker 4: what's not working in this part? And so this, this 285 00:13:08,200 --> 00:13:11,440 Speaker 4: comic was kind of my way to kind of take 286 00:13:11,480 --> 00:13:14,120 Speaker 4: all of that destructive mental energy and put it towards 287 00:13:14,120 --> 00:13:16,040 Speaker 4: something that that is creative. 288 00:13:16,320 --> 00:13:19,000 Speaker 5: I noticed on the cover of the book She's with Child, 289 00:13:19,920 --> 00:13:21,880 Speaker 5: which I think is a great play on the baddest 290 00:13:21,880 --> 00:13:23,960 Speaker 5: woman on the planet, because it's like, you know, we 291 00:13:24,000 --> 00:13:25,640 Speaker 5: see you in the ring, but also like you know, 292 00:13:25,840 --> 00:13:27,679 Speaker 5: women talk about the superpower that you get when you. 293 00:13:27,600 --> 00:13:28,719 Speaker 4: Become a mom. 294 00:13:28,760 --> 00:13:31,440 Speaker 5: So talk about choosing to have you Know that as 295 00:13:31,480 --> 00:13:33,160 Speaker 5: the cover art for the comic. 296 00:13:38,040 --> 00:13:42,400 Speaker 4: Well, I guess like how this started. It was strange. Well, 297 00:13:43,080 --> 00:13:46,840 Speaker 4: it was the go home before WrestleMania, where I was 298 00:13:46,880 --> 00:13:49,120 Speaker 4: meant I was said to be the first ever woman's 299 00:13:49,160 --> 00:13:53,080 Speaker 4: main event with Becky Lynch and Charlotte Flair and in 300 00:13:53,160 --> 00:13:56,520 Speaker 4: true w W design, I mean fashion, it was about 301 00:13:56,520 --> 00:13:59,320 Speaker 4: like seven o'clock. The doors had already opened in the 302 00:13:59,320 --> 00:14:01,760 Speaker 4: arena and Vince had torn apart the whole script of 303 00:14:01,800 --> 00:14:03,760 Speaker 4: the day and we didn't know what the hell we 304 00:14:03,760 --> 00:14:05,120 Speaker 4: were going to do, and we were about to be 305 00:14:05,320 --> 00:14:10,319 Speaker 4: out in the arena, yeah, for the last show before WrestleMania. 306 00:14:10,360 --> 00:14:13,679 Speaker 4: I saw it's the go home for WrestleMania, but the 307 00:14:13,720 --> 00:14:16,160 Speaker 4: mash of WrestleMania we put together the night before, they're 308 00:14:16,200 --> 00:14:20,560 Speaker 4: not that still, not that planning that much. So I 309 00:14:20,680 --> 00:14:23,720 Speaker 4: was kind of like freaking out and Paul Hayman pulled 310 00:14:23,720 --> 00:14:25,520 Speaker 4: me aside, and I think he was just trying to 311 00:14:25,560 --> 00:14:28,240 Speaker 4: like get me to stop being less nervous and thinking 312 00:14:28,280 --> 00:14:31,280 Speaker 4: about something else, and he was saying, what kind of 313 00:14:31,280 --> 00:14:32,840 Speaker 4: movie do you want to start in? I'm like, what 314 00:14:32,880 --> 00:14:34,120 Speaker 4: do you what? And he was like, what kind of 315 00:14:34,160 --> 00:14:36,840 Speaker 4: movie would you want to start in? And I never 316 00:14:37,920 --> 00:14:40,000 Speaker 4: thought about that because I'd been a little spoiled bratt 317 00:14:40,040 --> 00:14:41,960 Speaker 4: waiting for someone just to hand me my green light 318 00:14:42,120 --> 00:14:45,160 Speaker 4: green project, already ready to go, and I didn't realize 319 00:14:45,240 --> 00:14:47,440 Speaker 4: until that moment, like I don't know, what is the 320 00:14:47,520 --> 00:14:50,880 Speaker 4: role that I could play better than anybody else could. 321 00:14:51,120 --> 00:14:53,880 Speaker 4: And I'm not Meryl Streep. I don't have a huge range, 322 00:14:53,920 --> 00:14:55,960 Speaker 4: but a very narrow range I can. I can hit 323 00:14:56,080 --> 00:14:57,800 Speaker 4: like a bullet, you know what I mean. So I 324 00:14:57,840 --> 00:15:01,080 Speaker 4: was thinking, Okay, what would be I've always wanted to do, 325 00:15:01,160 --> 00:15:06,080 Speaker 4: like a martial arts film, and what would be a 326 00:15:06,240 --> 00:15:08,800 Speaker 4: character only I could do? And I was thinking that, 327 00:15:08,880 --> 00:15:11,120 Speaker 4: like my favorite martial arts films are usually like going 328 00:15:11,120 --> 00:15:13,160 Speaker 4: from point A to point B, like the Raid, You're 329 00:15:13,160 --> 00:15:14,520 Speaker 4: going from the bottom of the building at the top 330 00:15:14,520 --> 00:15:18,400 Speaker 4: of the building. And so I was like, Okay, well, 331 00:15:18,440 --> 00:15:22,160 Speaker 4: maybe the chick is pregnant and she you know, everyone's 332 00:15:22,160 --> 00:15:23,720 Speaker 4: trying to kill her. So she's trying to get rid 333 00:15:23,720 --> 00:15:27,120 Speaker 4: of the baby because it's not safe, and she has 334 00:15:27,160 --> 00:15:29,000 Speaker 4: to fight her way to the abortion clinic and by 335 00:15:29,040 --> 00:15:32,360 Speaker 4: the time she gets there, she's you know, had all 336 00:15:32,400 --> 00:15:34,640 Speaker 4: these like you know, close calls with the baby on 337 00:15:34,680 --> 00:15:36,560 Speaker 4: the way that by the time she gets there, you know, 338 00:15:36,640 --> 00:15:39,040 Speaker 4: like she's gone through this, this whole journey of whether 339 00:15:39,160 --> 00:15:41,640 Speaker 4: she wants to become a mother or not, and she 340 00:15:41,760 --> 00:15:43,360 Speaker 4: kind of like has. 341 00:15:43,240 --> 00:15:45,560 Speaker 3: To find it before you even get to the clinic. 342 00:15:45,880 --> 00:15:49,200 Speaker 4: Yeah, so all of the closet calls making her realize, 343 00:15:49,240 --> 00:15:51,200 Speaker 4: you know, how much she wants to keep it. And 344 00:15:51,520 --> 00:15:56,320 Speaker 4: I guess it was kind of confronting my own insecurity 345 00:15:56,400 --> 00:15:59,040 Speaker 4: is about becoming a mom and bringing a baby into 346 00:15:59,080 --> 00:16:02,800 Speaker 4: a hostile world and thinking like am I capable of 347 00:16:02,920 --> 00:16:05,200 Speaker 4: raising a person and keeping them safe in this kind 348 00:16:05,240 --> 00:16:09,440 Speaker 4: of world? And so and there's so many like women 349 00:16:09,520 --> 00:16:11,520 Speaker 4: that like get pregnant and then not only don't have 350 00:16:11,600 --> 00:16:13,840 Speaker 4: anyone to help, they just don't have anyone to help them. 351 00:16:14,040 --> 00:16:17,680 Speaker 4: And it's really scary and no one really thinks about 352 00:16:17,720 --> 00:16:19,840 Speaker 4: that journey from when you find out to you're pregnant 353 00:16:19,880 --> 00:16:22,400 Speaker 4: to when you decide to go in to be a mom. 354 00:16:23,080 --> 00:16:27,000 Speaker 4: And so this is kind of like her journey going 355 00:16:27,040 --> 00:16:29,960 Speaker 4: through that. Well, you know, everyone's trying to kill her. 356 00:16:30,000 --> 00:16:32,640 Speaker 4: So basically it's like you know, like when die Hard 357 00:16:32,680 --> 00:16:35,160 Speaker 4: came out like everything was die Hard and it was 358 00:16:35,160 --> 00:16:37,200 Speaker 4: like die Hard on a boat, die Hard on a bus. 359 00:16:37,240 --> 00:16:40,520 Speaker 4: It was like everything else. So this is like john Wick, 360 00:16:41,960 --> 00:16:43,960 Speaker 4: John Wick on the way to the abortion clinic. But 361 00:16:44,080 --> 00:16:46,280 Speaker 4: you know, it's also a romantic comedy. So it's like, 362 00:16:46,400 --> 00:16:48,520 Speaker 4: I like to say, it's like john Wick Wes knocked up. 363 00:16:48,880 --> 00:16:53,320 Speaker 1: That's so interesting because you're a fighter, right, So, but 364 00:16:53,480 --> 00:16:55,520 Speaker 1: you didn't feel like you were a natural protector. 365 00:16:56,920 --> 00:16:59,280 Speaker 4: Uh. I mean, I feel like I'm a natural protector. 366 00:16:59,360 --> 00:17:02,920 Speaker 4: But I'll have my own insecurities of like, you know, 367 00:17:05,280 --> 00:17:09,439 Speaker 4: am I good enough to be somebody's mom, because that's like, 368 00:17:10,320 --> 00:17:12,680 Speaker 4: I don't know, it's a huge task and a huge 369 00:17:12,720 --> 00:17:14,560 Speaker 4: role to have in somebody's life. I mean, think about 370 00:17:14,560 --> 00:17:18,159 Speaker 4: how influential your mother has been on you. And my 371 00:17:18,240 --> 00:17:22,640 Speaker 4: mom is you know, she's she's a legend, like my mom. 372 00:17:22,720 --> 00:17:26,000 Speaker 4: She got a perfect score on the SATs at sixteen, 373 00:17:26,560 --> 00:17:30,800 Speaker 4: graduated college at nineteen. She was working as a single 374 00:17:30,840 --> 00:17:34,000 Speaker 4: mother engineer in the eighties while she was getting her 375 00:17:34,040 --> 00:17:36,399 Speaker 4: PhD and won the world championships in judo all at 376 00:17:36,400 --> 00:17:41,280 Speaker 4: the same time. Like yeah, and I'm like I only 377 00:17:41,320 --> 00:17:44,720 Speaker 4: got my ged Oh man, I don't know if I 378 00:17:44,720 --> 00:17:48,040 Speaker 4: could do this, and yeah, she's just like this the 379 00:17:48,160 --> 00:17:51,520 Speaker 4: super super mom, and I I don't know. I don't 380 00:17:51,520 --> 00:17:53,600 Speaker 4: know if I had on my own insecurities, if if 381 00:17:53,640 --> 00:17:56,399 Speaker 4: I could take up that mantle or not, And so 382 00:17:57,119 --> 00:17:59,600 Speaker 4: I don't know. This is like a funny kind of 383 00:17:59,600 --> 00:18:02,840 Speaker 4: an ex floration of all of that. And obviously it's 384 00:18:02,880 --> 00:18:06,919 Speaker 4: like my husband is in it and everything, and yeah 385 00:18:07,080 --> 00:18:09,800 Speaker 4: it's I still am writing it. I'm still obsessed with it. 386 00:18:09,840 --> 00:18:13,600 Speaker 4: I've already written a sequel to it. Wow, I can't stop. 387 00:18:13,640 --> 00:18:15,399 Speaker 4: And no one's asking no one's asked me to do it. 388 00:18:15,480 --> 00:18:16,840 Speaker 4: You know. It's the kind of thing like after I 389 00:18:16,880 --> 00:18:20,240 Speaker 4: put my babies down, I'll set up and keep writing 390 00:18:20,280 --> 00:18:22,840 Speaker 4: and just thinking about it all the time. And this 391 00:18:23,000 --> 00:18:25,359 Speaker 4: is like, I don't know, this is like my baby 392 00:18:25,400 --> 00:18:28,359 Speaker 4: and something that I just comes entirely from me and 393 00:18:28,440 --> 00:18:31,560 Speaker 4: hasn't been demanded from anybody else, but hopefully other people 394 00:18:31,600 --> 00:18:32,200 Speaker 4: with demand more. 395 00:18:32,480 --> 00:18:35,600 Speaker 1: You see it when you think about people's well, superheroes 396 00:18:35,680 --> 00:18:38,320 Speaker 1: origin stories, right, they either come from like pain, power 397 00:18:38,440 --> 00:18:38,920 Speaker 1: or purpose? 398 00:18:39,400 --> 00:18:42,439 Speaker 3: Oh, which one best describes your personal journey? 399 00:18:42,800 --> 00:18:48,480 Speaker 4: My personal journey, Oh god, I guess it is started 400 00:18:48,520 --> 00:18:52,439 Speaker 4: out his pain and then became power and then morphed 401 00:18:52,440 --> 00:18:55,200 Speaker 4: into purpose. I think I had my own phases with it, 402 00:18:55,280 --> 00:18:58,520 Speaker 4: but yeah, I think it started as you know, I 403 00:18:58,600 --> 00:19:02,600 Speaker 4: lost my dad really young and I just needed an outlet, 404 00:19:02,720 --> 00:19:06,520 Speaker 4: and fighting was well, judo is what I started with, 405 00:19:06,560 --> 00:19:09,280 Speaker 4: and that that really became a great way to be 406 00:19:09,320 --> 00:19:13,440 Speaker 4: able to vent all of everything that I couldn't say. 407 00:19:13,480 --> 00:19:15,720 Speaker 4: I also had a speech disorder growing up. I couldn't 408 00:19:15,760 --> 00:19:17,320 Speaker 4: really speak, and so it was just a great way 409 00:19:17,359 --> 00:19:20,040 Speaker 4: to communicate and it was everything that I needed. 410 00:19:20,600 --> 00:19:23,360 Speaker 3: You remember the first time you had that, I had to. 411 00:19:23,320 --> 00:19:25,399 Speaker 4: Defend myself, like in an actual confrontation. 412 00:19:25,560 --> 00:19:26,840 Speaker 3: What does your first fight period? 413 00:19:27,200 --> 00:19:30,879 Speaker 4: Oh God, some kid like grabbed me by the throat, 414 00:19:32,680 --> 00:19:36,879 Speaker 4: I like tossed him onto the ground, but like asphalt 415 00:19:36,920 --> 00:19:40,880 Speaker 4: on the back of his head. Yeah. And then then 416 00:19:40,920 --> 00:19:42,680 Speaker 4: the bell rung, so we all had to go to class. 417 00:19:42,800 --> 00:19:44,800 Speaker 2: Wage was this This was like great. 418 00:19:44,920 --> 00:19:49,119 Speaker 4: Sixth grade And and then the kid was so embarrassed 419 00:19:49,119 --> 00:19:51,080 Speaker 4: that I guess he was like bleeding down the back 420 00:19:51,080 --> 00:19:53,040 Speaker 4: of his head and didn't say anything. And then the 421 00:19:53,080 --> 00:19:56,040 Speaker 4: teacher found out that he was bleeding on the back 422 00:19:56,040 --> 00:19:58,920 Speaker 4: of his head, and yeah, then it all came out 423 00:19:58,960 --> 00:20:01,000 Speaker 4: then around me on the back of my head and 424 00:20:02,040 --> 00:20:03,920 Speaker 4: then I had to do community service for a week. 425 00:20:04,000 --> 00:20:06,280 Speaker 4: I never got away with a fight. I've never gotten 426 00:20:06,280 --> 00:20:08,760 Speaker 4: away with a fight. Everyone always has his stories about 427 00:20:08,760 --> 00:20:10,239 Speaker 4: Oh yeah I got this fight, this is and that, 428 00:20:10,359 --> 00:20:13,439 Speaker 4: Like how are people getting away with fights? I've never 429 00:20:13,680 --> 00:20:14,760 Speaker 4: ever gotten nowadays? 430 00:20:14,760 --> 00:20:16,360 Speaker 3: With this phone got their phones out? 431 00:20:16,520 --> 00:20:18,720 Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't know what did that give. 432 00:20:18,640 --> 00:20:19,159 Speaker 3: You a rep back? 433 00:20:19,240 --> 00:20:19,359 Speaker 4: Dan? 434 00:20:19,400 --> 00:20:20,720 Speaker 3: Though? Like did people see it that they were like, 435 00:20:20,760 --> 00:20:22,920 Speaker 3: oh shit, ron To just slam the ship? I just kid. 436 00:20:23,359 --> 00:20:26,480 Speaker 4: I mean kind of. I was like really muscular, it's 437 00:20:26,560 --> 00:20:29,159 Speaker 4: like you know, at that age. But it was the 438 00:20:29,240 --> 00:20:31,479 Speaker 4: kind of thing I got teased about a lot, and 439 00:20:31,520 --> 00:20:33,040 Speaker 4: so I was always like trying to cover it up 440 00:20:33,040 --> 00:20:35,919 Speaker 4: with like baggy clothing and and things like that. But 441 00:20:36,040 --> 00:20:38,480 Speaker 4: it was like a thing yeah, like oh yeah, Rondo's 442 00:20:38,480 --> 00:20:41,919 Speaker 4: fucking Ronda's jack or ron ron was really strong or 443 00:20:41,920 --> 00:20:43,840 Speaker 4: something like that. But it was kind of like something 444 00:20:43,880 --> 00:20:44,880 Speaker 4: I got teased for more. 445 00:20:45,000 --> 00:20:45,919 Speaker 3: But would you embrace it? 446 00:20:46,359 --> 00:20:48,440 Speaker 4: When did I embrace it? Oh god? I think in 447 00:20:48,600 --> 00:20:53,400 Speaker 4: my mid twenties when I realized I was sexy. Wait 448 00:20:53,480 --> 00:20:57,280 Speaker 4: a minute, I look great. Oh yeah, it was kind 449 00:20:57,280 --> 00:20:59,600 Speaker 4: of about that. I think it was when I was 450 00:20:59,640 --> 00:21:02,119 Speaker 4: switching over from Judo into MMA, and I had I 451 00:21:02,560 --> 00:21:07,160 Speaker 4: knew that there was a window there, but I had 452 00:21:07,160 --> 00:21:10,639 Speaker 4: to play up the you know, the sex appeal to 453 00:21:10,680 --> 00:21:13,639 Speaker 4: be able to bring people to look at the value 454 00:21:13,720 --> 00:21:16,800 Speaker 4: I think that there was in women's fighting. And so 455 00:21:17,040 --> 00:21:20,000 Speaker 4: I had to kind of step up and be that 456 00:21:20,040 --> 00:21:24,119 Speaker 4: person and embody that that confidence, and I kind of 457 00:21:24,160 --> 00:21:26,520 Speaker 4: had to fake it until until I made it. And 458 00:21:27,359 --> 00:21:29,760 Speaker 4: that was basically it. You know, you had to pretend 459 00:21:29,760 --> 00:21:33,560 Speaker 4: to sleep before you get to sleep. So I was like, whatever, 460 00:21:33,560 --> 00:21:36,640 Speaker 4: I'm gonna try and dress up. And see I used 461 00:21:36,640 --> 00:21:39,000 Speaker 4: to get like so self conscious about even putting makeup on, 462 00:21:39,160 --> 00:21:42,399 Speaker 4: even trying and or like trying to dress up or 463 00:21:42,440 --> 00:21:44,720 Speaker 4: anything like that. And I just kind of like bit 464 00:21:44,760 --> 00:21:47,280 Speaker 4: the bullet and put myself out there. And then I 465 00:21:47,359 --> 00:21:49,240 Speaker 4: just actually started to be like, well, you know what, 466 00:21:49,400 --> 00:21:52,880 Speaker 4: I actually I'm really happy with how I look and 467 00:21:52,880 --> 00:21:56,000 Speaker 4: and things like that, and and everything kind of came 468 00:21:56,040 --> 00:21:56,320 Speaker 4: from that. 469 00:21:57,200 --> 00:21:59,840 Speaker 5: I saw Dana White say somewhere recently because you know, 470 00:22:00,080 --> 00:22:02,000 Speaker 5: fans want you to come back, and he was asked 471 00:22:02,000 --> 00:22:03,680 Speaker 5: about it, and he was talking about how how good 472 00:22:03,720 --> 00:22:05,000 Speaker 5: you look right now on like how ripped you are 473 00:22:05,080 --> 00:22:07,280 Speaker 5: right now and people see you posting these videos on 474 00:22:07,320 --> 00:22:11,840 Speaker 5: your Instagram and all things, So what is there, Like, 475 00:22:11,880 --> 00:22:14,560 Speaker 5: what's happening? Are we going to see happening return somewhere 476 00:22:14,600 --> 00:22:16,560 Speaker 5: because these videos you're posting, it'd be like, Oh, just 477 00:22:17,119 --> 00:22:19,200 Speaker 5: having lunch with my friend and you're like in the ring, 478 00:22:19,720 --> 00:22:22,320 Speaker 5: like it's so casual in the caption. 479 00:22:22,760 --> 00:22:25,360 Speaker 4: Yeah, well I have I have a cage in my garage. 480 00:22:26,040 --> 00:22:27,960 Speaker 4: It's not like I went anywhere. I really did like 481 00:22:28,000 --> 00:22:30,359 Speaker 4: mosey on out there and like that's how you post it. 482 00:22:30,400 --> 00:22:33,960 Speaker 4: I'm like this video, yeah, the one where your baby 483 00:22:34,040 --> 00:22:35,879 Speaker 4: was sitting and watching you. I thought that was so 484 00:22:36,000 --> 00:22:39,320 Speaker 4: cute too. It's really awesome that like I get to 485 00:22:39,320 --> 00:22:41,040 Speaker 4: be like a kind of a spoiled brat now of 486 00:22:41,080 --> 00:22:42,480 Speaker 4: like I just want to build a cage in my 487 00:22:42,520 --> 00:22:44,639 Speaker 4: backyard and bring my friends over and do some karate, 488 00:22:44,880 --> 00:22:50,200 Speaker 4: you know, and yeah, I'm just having fun with it again. 489 00:22:50,480 --> 00:22:52,119 Speaker 4: And it got to a point where I feel like 490 00:22:52,240 --> 00:22:54,199 Speaker 4: it kind of got hijacked from me and I was 491 00:22:55,480 --> 00:22:58,200 Speaker 4: fighting and training for for reasons other than my own. 492 00:22:58,280 --> 00:23:02,280 Speaker 4: And I think it's having my last baby. It just 493 00:23:03,280 --> 00:23:06,800 Speaker 4: being pregnant is it's fucking tough, you know. I literally 494 00:23:06,800 --> 00:23:10,480 Speaker 4: it felt like I was like handicapped just compared to 495 00:23:10,880 --> 00:23:14,000 Speaker 4: being finally tuned athletic machine. Right, you know, I feel 496 00:23:14,000 --> 00:23:16,399 Speaker 4: like I can do anything to suddenly like if I 497 00:23:16,400 --> 00:23:18,000 Speaker 4: did a forward role, I think I would throw my 498 00:23:18,040 --> 00:23:21,320 Speaker 4: back out. And so that's kind of where it just started, 499 00:23:21,320 --> 00:23:24,160 Speaker 4: of like I just wanted to get that my bodily 500 00:23:24,200 --> 00:23:29,000 Speaker 4: identity back from just being a vessel for creating another person. Yeah, 501 00:23:29,119 --> 00:23:33,439 Speaker 4: and just get that freedom of movement back. And so 502 00:23:33,520 --> 00:23:37,320 Speaker 4: then yeah, I started training in MMA again because I 503 00:23:37,320 --> 00:23:40,760 Speaker 4: feel like when I kind of lost that identity as 504 00:23:40,800 --> 00:23:43,960 Speaker 4: being a fighter, it I think it like broke my 505 00:23:44,000 --> 00:23:47,000 Speaker 4: heart too much to be anywhere near it because I 506 00:23:47,080 --> 00:23:49,440 Speaker 4: love it so much. And so I kind of went 507 00:23:49,480 --> 00:23:51,000 Speaker 4: to the extreme of like I don't want to train 508 00:23:51,040 --> 00:23:54,480 Speaker 4: on and want to do anything at all. And and 509 00:23:54,600 --> 00:23:56,480 Speaker 4: actually was a friend of mine who with one of 510 00:23:56,480 --> 00:23:59,520 Speaker 4: my coaches, who he was like, oh, well, I really 511 00:23:59,560 --> 00:24:01,320 Speaker 4: want to give my black belt in judo, can you 512 00:24:01,400 --> 00:24:03,399 Speaker 4: like help me get my black belt? And I'm like 513 00:24:03,440 --> 00:24:05,359 Speaker 4: all right, And so I had a couple of mats 514 00:24:05,400 --> 00:24:07,479 Speaker 4: in my garage, so you'd come over, I'd show them 515 00:24:07,520 --> 00:24:10,719 Speaker 4: some judo. And then then I started like getting like 516 00:24:11,160 --> 00:24:15,080 Speaker 4: enjoying it. You know again. And then you know he 517 00:24:15,600 --> 00:24:18,200 Speaker 4: does like wrestling in jiu jitsu and stuff, so like, oh, 518 00:24:18,280 --> 00:24:20,480 Speaker 4: you know, let's let's roll around a little bit. Let's 519 00:24:20,560 --> 00:24:23,400 Speaker 4: do that. And then my strength conditioning coach had been coming, 520 00:24:23,520 --> 00:24:26,440 Speaker 4: you know, throughout the years, and like, why don't you 521 00:24:26,480 --> 00:24:29,199 Speaker 4: hold some paddles for me and hit some mits and 522 00:24:29,240 --> 00:24:31,439 Speaker 4: stuff like that. And then so it just kind of 523 00:24:31,640 --> 00:24:35,760 Speaker 4: came from a place of just joy and I just 524 00:24:35,800 --> 00:24:38,640 Speaker 4: want to do it just because I enjoy it instead 525 00:24:38,640 --> 00:24:41,240 Speaker 4: of this is what I feel obligated to do or 526 00:24:41,680 --> 00:24:44,119 Speaker 4: you know, this is what I'm being coerced to be 527 00:24:44,160 --> 00:24:49,240 Speaker 4: doing for one reason or another and so and and 528 00:24:49,280 --> 00:24:51,879 Speaker 4: it's what my body really wants, you know, It's what 529 00:24:51,960 --> 00:24:53,520 Speaker 4: I've been training to do my whole life. And I 530 00:24:53,600 --> 00:24:57,960 Speaker 4: just feel healthier and better and I want to train again. 531 00:24:58,240 --> 00:25:00,959 Speaker 4: It makes me happy. And it it's really funny that 532 00:25:01,000 --> 00:25:03,240 Speaker 4: like I'm training and everyone's like, so what are you 533 00:25:03,359 --> 00:25:05,320 Speaker 4: what are you training for? What are you doing? And 534 00:25:05,359 --> 00:25:10,080 Speaker 4: I'm like, for my own joy? Is that is that bad? 535 00:25:10,080 --> 00:25:12,040 Speaker 3: They see you training, but they automatically think you want 536 00:25:12,040 --> 00:25:12,480 Speaker 3: to come back? 537 00:25:12,680 --> 00:25:15,560 Speaker 4: I mean, i mean they're like, well, you look so good. 538 00:25:15,640 --> 00:25:18,359 Speaker 4: I'm like, well, because I'm the greatest ever, Like, of course, 539 00:25:18,400 --> 00:25:19,960 Speaker 4: it is what I This is what happens when I train. 540 00:25:20,160 --> 00:25:23,600 Speaker 4: You know, I look great. Sorry, Like I don't have 541 00:25:23,680 --> 00:25:26,639 Speaker 4: to like have a plan for world domination in mind, 542 00:25:26,680 --> 00:25:29,919 Speaker 4: but you know, Mike Tyson coming back and being the 543 00:25:29,960 --> 00:25:32,879 Speaker 4: biggest fight of last year, it just kind of proves 544 00:25:32,920 --> 00:25:34,720 Speaker 4: that I don't think anyone's ever really done. 545 00:25:35,680 --> 00:25:38,000 Speaker 1: It's weird though, right, Like do you think the public 546 00:25:38,119 --> 00:25:41,679 Speaker 1: is addicted to watching people so called for? Because I 547 00:25:41,680 --> 00:25:44,080 Speaker 1: mean the reality of situation is, you only lost two fights, 548 00:25:44,600 --> 00:25:46,800 Speaker 1: but the media made it seem like it was just 549 00:25:46,960 --> 00:25:49,880 Speaker 1: completely over, like you could never win again. Like did 550 00:25:49,880 --> 00:25:51,359 Speaker 1: you think you think you let the media get to 551 00:25:51,400 --> 00:25:52,240 Speaker 1: you more than anything? 552 00:25:52,800 --> 00:25:54,919 Speaker 4: Uh? No, it was more of like what I was 553 00:25:54,960 --> 00:25:59,760 Speaker 4: dealing with personally and physically. I'd had uh so many 554 00:25:59,760 --> 00:26:02,640 Speaker 4: can Hians since I was a kid, and they were 555 00:26:02,680 --> 00:26:07,000 Speaker 4: getting progressively worse and worse, and I was getting concussion 556 00:26:07,080 --> 00:26:11,000 Speaker 4: symptoms easier and easier, and it got to the point where, 557 00:26:11,000 --> 00:26:14,720 Speaker 4: like any kind of impact at all, I was basically 558 00:26:14,840 --> 00:26:16,280 Speaker 4: like losing my vision. 559 00:26:16,800 --> 00:26:17,040 Speaker 3: Wow. 560 00:26:17,359 --> 00:26:22,440 Speaker 4: And I actually recently got some really great news about 561 00:26:22,480 --> 00:26:26,000 Speaker 4: that because Dana had me. You want to be part 562 00:26:26,040 --> 00:26:28,159 Speaker 4: of like this long term fighter study they're doing for 563 00:26:28,200 --> 00:26:30,560 Speaker 4: like neurological, you know everything. And so he sent me 564 00:26:30,600 --> 00:26:35,840 Speaker 4: to the Cleveland Clinic to get checked out, and the 565 00:26:36,440 --> 00:26:40,280 Speaker 4: doctor there he was like the first person to actually 566 00:26:40,280 --> 00:26:43,359 Speaker 4: give me good news because yeah, because a lot of 567 00:26:43,400 --> 00:26:46,320 Speaker 4: times it's just like neurologically, you're like, oh, well, you're 568 00:26:46,359 --> 00:26:49,000 Speaker 4: just going to deteriorate forever and it's just going to 569 00:26:49,080 --> 00:26:50,520 Speaker 4: get worse and worse and there's nothing you can do 570 00:26:50,560 --> 00:26:53,000 Speaker 4: about it. That's just what they always told you. And 571 00:26:53,040 --> 00:26:57,720 Speaker 4: he he said that I used to get migraines as 572 00:26:57,720 --> 00:27:03,240 Speaker 4: a kid, and he told me that people that get 573 00:27:03,240 --> 00:27:06,760 Speaker 4: migraines for some reason, it's easier for them to get concussions. 574 00:27:06,880 --> 00:27:11,120 Speaker 4: And what he thinks is happening is the more concussions 575 00:27:11,160 --> 00:27:13,800 Speaker 4: I got, the easier it was for an impact to 576 00:27:13,840 --> 00:27:16,280 Speaker 4: set off a migraine. And he thinks that because my 577 00:27:16,320 --> 00:27:19,400 Speaker 4: brain looks better than it should. And so he thinks, 578 00:27:19,440 --> 00:27:22,440 Speaker 4: what's happening is I haven't had as many concussions as 579 00:27:22,440 --> 00:27:25,920 Speaker 4: I think, and that a lot of times when I'm 580 00:27:26,040 --> 00:27:30,520 Speaker 4: getting hit, I'm not experiencing concussion symptoms. It's migraine symptoms. 581 00:27:30,840 --> 00:27:33,800 Speaker 4: So he says, because you can have a migraine without 582 00:27:33,800 --> 00:27:37,159 Speaker 4: a headache. So what's happening is I get hit and 583 00:27:37,200 --> 00:27:40,960 Speaker 4: then I lose a big chunk of my vision. Basically, 584 00:27:41,000 --> 00:27:44,720 Speaker 4: it's like I can't see and when I lose my 585 00:27:44,760 --> 00:27:47,600 Speaker 4: death perception and my ability to track moving objects or 586 00:27:47,680 --> 00:27:49,800 Speaker 4: like think quickly. So I'm like, oh, I'm knocked out. 587 00:27:50,600 --> 00:27:53,000 Speaker 4: I'm out of my feet. He's like, because you're not 588 00:27:53,080 --> 00:27:57,720 Speaker 4: stumbling around. He's like, I don't think it's a concussion. 589 00:27:57,760 --> 00:28:01,280 Speaker 4: I think it's what's happening is you're geting a and 590 00:28:01,320 --> 00:28:04,919 Speaker 4: so and so it's got to the point where, like 591 00:28:05,080 --> 00:28:09,200 Speaker 4: I I can't fight safely because if I get hit, 592 00:28:09,400 --> 00:28:13,080 Speaker 4: I basically can go blind. But the thing is there's 593 00:28:13,119 --> 00:28:16,000 Speaker 4: things I can also do about it. So I'm like 594 00:28:16,160 --> 00:28:19,560 Speaker 4: trying to address it like nutritionally and things like that. 595 00:28:19,760 --> 00:28:23,040 Speaker 4: But but yeah, it's it's kind of nuts because I thought. 596 00:28:23,160 --> 00:28:25,200 Speaker 4: I thought, I'm like, okay, well, I'm just gonna get 597 00:28:25,320 --> 00:28:28,400 Speaker 4: CT any day now, you know. And he was like, yeah, 598 00:28:28,440 --> 00:28:31,200 Speaker 4: I finally got some good news of like maybe there's 599 00:28:31,280 --> 00:28:33,560 Speaker 4: something you can do about it. And it's not a 600 00:28:33,840 --> 00:28:36,960 Speaker 4: you know, a the nail on the coffin of your 601 00:28:37,520 --> 00:28:40,760 Speaker 4: of being able to be able to fight. So that's 602 00:28:40,960 --> 00:28:43,360 Speaker 4: actually actually great news. But I don't know what I'm 603 00:28:43,360 --> 00:28:44,000 Speaker 4: going to do with that. 604 00:28:44,760 --> 00:28:48,240 Speaker 3: I would like, what's the point? 605 00:28:48,440 --> 00:28:50,400 Speaker 5: I don't think it sounds like you kind of are like, 606 00:28:50,480 --> 00:28:51,760 Speaker 5: I mean, not did you have anything to prove, But 607 00:28:51,800 --> 00:28:54,120 Speaker 5: it sounds like just in case you want to get 608 00:28:54,160 --> 00:28:56,320 Speaker 5: back into it, you're doing everything to make sure you're 609 00:28:56,560 --> 00:28:57,480 Speaker 5: safe to do. 610 00:28:57,520 --> 00:29:02,080 Speaker 4: So yeah, I mean, I I'm trying out what they're 611 00:29:02,080 --> 00:29:04,280 Speaker 4: trying to do, you know, I'm trying to like nutritionally 612 00:29:04,280 --> 00:29:06,600 Speaker 4: be able to address things and stuff like that. But 613 00:29:06,680 --> 00:29:09,560 Speaker 4: I also it's like, yeah, what's the point of going 614 00:29:09,560 --> 00:29:11,440 Speaker 4: out and taking head and packs to see if it 615 00:29:11,600 --> 00:29:13,320 Speaker 4: like if it works or not right? 616 00:29:13,480 --> 00:29:15,240 Speaker 3: You know, unless you can find like a YouTuber, like 617 00:29:15,280 --> 00:29:18,760 Speaker 3: maybe there's a female YouTuber that wants to get it popping. 618 00:29:18,800 --> 00:29:21,920 Speaker 2: I don't know, Like why, how scared were you? 619 00:29:21,960 --> 00:29:24,440 Speaker 5: Because there were fans that were saying that the retirement 620 00:29:24,920 --> 00:29:28,840 Speaker 5: was like abrupt. In hearing all this, it's like, I mean, yeah, 621 00:29:29,320 --> 00:29:32,360 Speaker 5: but how scared were you once you started, like when 622 00:29:32,360 --> 00:29:34,320 Speaker 5: you felt that loss of vision and you know, all 623 00:29:34,360 --> 00:29:36,000 Speaker 5: these things are happening, your body is changing. 624 00:29:36,880 --> 00:29:40,520 Speaker 4: I mean, it's just it's more. I mean, I don't 625 00:29:40,520 --> 00:29:42,640 Speaker 4: know if you can go into like scared, because that's 626 00:29:42,720 --> 00:29:44,600 Speaker 4: kind of not like the headspace that you're in when 627 00:29:44,640 --> 00:29:48,320 Speaker 4: you're out there. It's just more of like disabled and 628 00:29:48,480 --> 00:29:51,760 Speaker 4: like trying not to panic and. 629 00:29:52,240 --> 00:29:53,840 Speaker 5: Not even in the moment in the ring though, just 630 00:29:53,920 --> 00:29:56,800 Speaker 5: like in life of like like I want to be healthy, 631 00:29:56,840 --> 00:30:00,360 Speaker 5: I want to be okay, and I'm exp into these 632 00:30:00,440 --> 00:30:02,760 Speaker 5: things I've never experienced before that are making me take 633 00:30:02,800 --> 00:30:05,680 Speaker 5: a step back. Like what was your personal conversation with 634 00:30:05,720 --> 00:30:07,680 Speaker 5: yourself about this is not okay? 635 00:30:07,840 --> 00:30:08,680 Speaker 2: Like I'm not okay. 636 00:30:08,920 --> 00:30:12,840 Speaker 4: Well, personally, I was more worried about the long term effects, 637 00:30:13,040 --> 00:30:17,000 Speaker 4: you know, like everyone knows that Ali is the greatest, 638 00:30:17,040 --> 00:30:19,800 Speaker 4: but everyone knows what happened to Muhammad Ali, you know, 639 00:30:20,240 --> 00:30:23,440 Speaker 4: like I. And that's I think every fighter's fear is 640 00:30:23,480 --> 00:30:25,320 Speaker 4: you don't know when you've taken one hit too many 641 00:30:25,440 --> 00:30:29,480 Speaker 4: until you know decades later. And so that was more 642 00:30:29,520 --> 00:30:31,920 Speaker 4: of what I was worried about than how it was 643 00:30:32,000 --> 00:30:34,600 Speaker 4: affecting me in the fights itself. It was more of 644 00:30:34,760 --> 00:30:39,280 Speaker 4: I didn't want to keep fighting if I couldn't keep 645 00:30:39,280 --> 00:30:42,680 Speaker 4: fighting at the highest level, and when dealing with that, 646 00:30:42,960 --> 00:30:45,360 Speaker 4: I didn't know how that would be possible. And I'm 647 00:30:45,400 --> 00:30:49,040 Speaker 4: also a representative for the whole sport, So like, if 648 00:30:49,680 --> 00:30:53,760 Speaker 4: I'm not doing well physically, then people would be like, oh, 649 00:30:53,760 --> 00:30:56,560 Speaker 4: women shouldn't do mma because that'll that's what will happen 650 00:30:56,600 --> 00:30:59,080 Speaker 4: to you, right, you know, so I have to kind 651 00:30:59,080 --> 00:31:02,840 Speaker 4: of think about that. Aging gracefully is actually pretty important 652 00:31:03,000 --> 00:31:05,480 Speaker 4: for the sport because I represent the sport. 653 00:31:06,000 --> 00:31:07,680 Speaker 1: It's just it's just interesting because, like, you know, you 654 00:31:07,720 --> 00:31:11,760 Speaker 1: even think about somebody like Mike Tyson, he's lost multiple fights. God, 655 00:31:11,880 --> 00:31:14,080 Speaker 1: that's day. Muammad Ali lost multiple fights. You know, somebody 656 00:31:14,080 --> 00:31:16,360 Speaker 1: like Izzy. We love Izzy, we love all of them, 657 00:31:16,360 --> 00:31:18,480 Speaker 1: but they've lost multiple fights. You lost two fights, So 658 00:31:18,520 --> 00:31:21,480 Speaker 1: why like why why is it different when they lose 659 00:31:21,560 --> 00:31:24,920 Speaker 1: multiple fights and still get held as the greatest ever. 660 00:31:24,960 --> 00:31:26,400 Speaker 1: But you lose a couple of fights and people like 661 00:31:26,400 --> 00:31:29,600 Speaker 1: like it's in the world, it's over, she's done, she's finished. 662 00:31:30,000 --> 00:31:31,800 Speaker 4: Well, what do you think the difference is. 663 00:31:32,080 --> 00:31:32,640 Speaker 3: I don't know. 664 00:31:32,880 --> 00:31:38,600 Speaker 4: Oh, that's true. 665 00:31:38,800 --> 00:31:41,680 Speaker 5: I mean when you decided to walk away after those fights, 666 00:31:41,720 --> 00:31:44,200 Speaker 5: people were talking about this changing the trajectory of your 667 00:31:44,440 --> 00:31:47,760 Speaker 5: Like those fights single handedly changed the trajectory of your career. 668 00:31:47,800 --> 00:31:50,320 Speaker 1: Nobody even took into consideration all the other things that 669 00:31:50,360 --> 00:31:53,200 Speaker 1: you're telling us now, yeah, mental issues, it could be 670 00:31:53,240 --> 00:31:56,480 Speaker 1: physical issues. It's just it was it literally felt like 671 00:31:56,600 --> 00:31:58,440 Speaker 1: it's over, no longer the bad it someone on the 672 00:31:58,440 --> 00:31:59,000 Speaker 1: planet done. 673 00:31:59,880 --> 00:32:03,280 Speaker 4: I mean I didn't want to like go out. I 674 00:32:03,320 --> 00:32:05,480 Speaker 4: don't want people think I was making excuses, you know, 675 00:32:06,440 --> 00:32:09,800 Speaker 4: So I was just like, what's the point. 676 00:32:10,240 --> 00:32:13,800 Speaker 2: Do you feel like people threw you away? In a sense? 677 00:32:14,760 --> 00:32:18,120 Speaker 4: I mean I don't know, Like it's not really what 678 00:32:18,160 --> 00:32:21,120 Speaker 4: I've concerned myself with. I think it like it really 679 00:32:21,160 --> 00:32:25,920 Speaker 4: taught me to like separate public perception from my self perception, 680 00:32:26,440 --> 00:32:28,640 Speaker 4: which I think is the best thing that I got 681 00:32:28,680 --> 00:32:32,040 Speaker 4: out of it, you know. And I think that's like 682 00:32:32,080 --> 00:32:34,360 Speaker 4: a trap that a lot of people fall down, that 683 00:32:34,360 --> 00:32:39,320 Speaker 4: they're trying to constantly keep that fame at a certain 684 00:32:39,400 --> 00:32:41,680 Speaker 4: level because they feel like if that goes down, then 685 00:32:41,680 --> 00:32:45,960 Speaker 4: their self worth goes down. And that's kind of like 686 00:32:46,040 --> 00:32:49,120 Speaker 4: Tommy of like, you know what, actually didn't enjoy being 687 00:32:49,160 --> 00:32:51,760 Speaker 4: that famous, you know what I mean, like not being 688 00:32:51,800 --> 00:32:54,320 Speaker 4: able to do normal stuff and go to the grocery 689 00:32:54,320 --> 00:32:57,000 Speaker 4: store and go to a restaurant or even be in 690 00:32:57,080 --> 00:32:59,360 Speaker 4: the line in and out drive through. I mean it 691 00:32:59,440 --> 00:33:01,400 Speaker 4: was crazy for a while. I remember once I was 692 00:33:01,400 --> 00:33:03,880 Speaker 4: in the in the line for in and out to 693 00:33:03,920 --> 00:33:07,840 Speaker 4: get you know animal, Yeah, not even in the store, 694 00:33:07,840 --> 00:33:10,320 Speaker 4: in the car, and someone noticed me in the in 695 00:33:10,400 --> 00:33:12,840 Speaker 4: the car and like a whole mob flooring around the car, 696 00:33:13,000 --> 00:33:15,040 Speaker 4: you know, with my kids in there and everything like that. 697 00:33:15,200 --> 00:33:19,480 Speaker 4: And yeah, I couldn't go into a restaurant without everybody 698 00:33:19,600 --> 00:33:21,880 Speaker 4: standing up and lining up at the table, or go 699 00:33:21,960 --> 00:33:26,480 Speaker 4: to the grocery store. And I I kind of realized that, like, 700 00:33:26,640 --> 00:33:29,320 Speaker 4: I don't think that anybody would want to be that 701 00:33:29,440 --> 00:33:32,240 Speaker 4: famous unless you know, there's something wrong with them. Like 702 00:33:33,680 --> 00:33:36,160 Speaker 4: I enjoy being able to live a normal life, and 703 00:33:36,440 --> 00:33:39,000 Speaker 4: I've I entered into that like nostalgia phase where people 704 00:33:39,000 --> 00:33:41,360 Speaker 4: are like, oh, yeah, I remember you. You know. It's 705 00:33:41,400 --> 00:33:43,600 Speaker 4: so it's like it's so great to see you again 706 00:33:43,760 --> 00:33:48,880 Speaker 4: kind of a thing and instead of being like an event, 707 00:33:49,320 --> 00:33:52,360 Speaker 4: you know, two people and so yeah, I think it 708 00:33:52,440 --> 00:33:55,280 Speaker 4: kind of made me realize that that that lifestyle actually 709 00:33:55,360 --> 00:33:58,200 Speaker 4: wasn't really something that I personally wanted. And maybe it's 710 00:33:58,200 --> 00:34:01,400 Speaker 4: something that like, you know, fan of my ego, but 711 00:34:01,480 --> 00:34:03,960 Speaker 4: it didn't like, you know, feed my soul kind of 712 00:34:03,960 --> 00:34:06,000 Speaker 4: a thing. Like I want to just be be with 713 00:34:06,000 --> 00:34:08,120 Speaker 4: my kids and be with my family, and not have 714 00:34:08,200 --> 00:34:11,280 Speaker 4: to be like going through the back doors of everywhere 715 00:34:11,320 --> 00:34:12,240 Speaker 4: for the rest of my life. 716 00:34:12,320 --> 00:34:13,920 Speaker 3: So you're definitely not fighting at the UFC, have been 717 00:34:13,920 --> 00:34:15,040 Speaker 3: at the White House because people. 718 00:34:14,920 --> 00:34:16,880 Speaker 2: Think you are on They think that that is the 719 00:34:16,920 --> 00:34:17,600 Speaker 2: next one coming. 720 00:34:18,160 --> 00:34:21,680 Speaker 4: That's so funny. I literally said that I wasn't. Yeah, 721 00:34:21,760 --> 00:34:24,200 Speaker 4: they're like, that's exactly what you would say if you were. 722 00:34:25,040 --> 00:34:28,759 Speaker 4: But I had a baby like nine months ago. I'm 723 00:34:28,800 --> 00:34:29,759 Speaker 4: still walking it off. 724 00:34:29,880 --> 00:34:33,680 Speaker 5: You know, did you receive an actual like invite because 725 00:34:33,680 --> 00:34:35,880 Speaker 5: you never specifically said if you got an invite or not, 726 00:34:35,920 --> 00:34:37,239 Speaker 5: people as soon you didn't. 727 00:34:37,000 --> 00:34:42,200 Speaker 4: Because we open invitation at all times, you know what. 728 00:34:42,200 --> 00:34:42,440 Speaker 3: I think. 729 00:34:42,480 --> 00:34:46,040 Speaker 5: It's interesting, Like I know Dana White like in everything 730 00:34:46,040 --> 00:34:48,080 Speaker 5: that he's doing and at the White House and stuff 731 00:34:48,080 --> 00:34:50,680 Speaker 5: like that, Like a lot of people I remember Elon 732 00:34:50,760 --> 00:34:52,920 Speaker 5: Musk and people were like destroying the Teslas and all 733 00:34:52,920 --> 00:34:54,560 Speaker 5: that because they didn't like the fact that he was 734 00:34:54,600 --> 00:34:57,240 Speaker 5: like so involved with politics and all these things. 735 00:34:57,239 --> 00:35:00,279 Speaker 2: But it hasn't affected Dana White in his business. Why 736 00:35:00,280 --> 00:35:01,160 Speaker 2: do you think that that is? 737 00:35:03,160 --> 00:35:06,520 Speaker 4: Probably because the people that he's selling to is a 738 00:35:06,640 --> 00:35:10,120 Speaker 4: very different group, you know what I mean. UFC fans 739 00:35:10,120 --> 00:35:13,640 Speaker 4: and Tesla fans or that that Benn diagram is not a. 740 00:35:16,800 --> 00:35:17,640 Speaker 2: Stark difference. 741 00:35:17,719 --> 00:35:22,960 Speaker 3: But yeah, yeah, how has motherhood changed your relationship with 742 00:35:23,120 --> 00:35:24,200 Speaker 3: competition and ego? 743 00:35:25,040 --> 00:35:28,480 Speaker 4: Oh god, I don't know. I guess I won't know 744 00:35:28,560 --> 00:35:32,880 Speaker 4: until my kids start competing in something, you know, but 745 00:35:33,040 --> 00:35:37,680 Speaker 4: my own competition, my own ego, I think. I don't know. 746 00:35:37,719 --> 00:35:39,680 Speaker 4: I think it's a great It's had a great effect 747 00:35:39,680 --> 00:35:44,560 Speaker 4: on my own ego because I was just getting tired 748 00:35:44,600 --> 00:35:47,080 Speaker 4: of myself. I don't know if this is like one 749 00:35:47,080 --> 00:35:52,040 Speaker 4: of my niche one of my random, like deep cut 750 00:35:52,160 --> 00:35:56,160 Speaker 4: movie references. But remember and Jerry maguire with Cush, the 751 00:35:56,200 --> 00:35:59,160 Speaker 4: guy he was representing, and he was asking how his 752 00:35:59,280 --> 00:36:01,600 Speaker 4: day was, and he not a press conference all day, 753 00:36:01,640 --> 00:36:03,720 Speaker 4: and he said he was so tired of talking about himself, 754 00:36:03,719 --> 00:36:07,759 Speaker 4: and he got cushlash. Is that cushlash, cush slash. I 755 00:36:07,800 --> 00:36:10,239 Speaker 4: had a big time cush lash. I was tired of 756 00:36:10,239 --> 00:36:13,080 Speaker 4: my self. I don't want to talk about myself anymore. 757 00:36:13,120 --> 00:36:15,560 Speaker 4: We focus on my own ship. And so I think 758 00:36:16,200 --> 00:36:18,759 Speaker 4: the great one of one of the great things while 759 00:36:18,760 --> 00:36:22,000 Speaker 4: being a mom is like I'm not the focus in 760 00:36:22,040 --> 00:36:27,080 Speaker 4: the center anymore. Yeah, And so I think that that's 761 00:36:27,080 --> 00:36:29,240 Speaker 4: one of the great things I did for my ego 762 00:36:29,680 --> 00:36:33,960 Speaker 4: is I'm not ruminating over my own crap. You know, 763 00:36:34,200 --> 00:36:35,960 Speaker 4: I am dealing with actual crap. 764 00:36:38,680 --> 00:36:42,360 Speaker 1: So do you think like true confidence comes from I 765 00:36:42,360 --> 00:36:44,120 Speaker 1: guess being dominance or surrenders. 766 00:36:45,400 --> 00:36:50,440 Speaker 4: Does confidence come from dominance? True dominance or true confidence? 767 00:36:52,520 --> 00:36:55,520 Speaker 3: Confidence? I'm sorry, true confidence? Yes? You think true confidence 768 00:36:55,560 --> 00:36:56,840 Speaker 3: comes from dominance? Are surrender? 769 00:36:57,600 --> 00:36:57,960 Speaker 4: Oh? 770 00:36:58,120 --> 00:36:58,440 Speaker 3: God? 771 00:36:59,120 --> 00:37:03,160 Speaker 4: I think it comes from experience. You know, my mom 772 00:37:03,200 --> 00:37:06,680 Speaker 4: had a saying that winning is a habit, and I 773 00:37:06,680 --> 00:37:10,720 Speaker 4: think that the experience of being through something and knowing 774 00:37:10,760 --> 00:37:13,759 Speaker 4: that you're capable. I think that's where that confidence comes from. 775 00:37:13,760 --> 00:37:18,080 Speaker 4: And I think that's something that that's missing a lot 776 00:37:18,480 --> 00:37:20,600 Speaker 4: in MMA today is that a lot of people are 777 00:37:20,600 --> 00:37:26,360 Speaker 4: coming in and that's their first sport. Iam had, you know, competition, 778 00:37:26,440 --> 00:37:30,480 Speaker 4: sperience in something else where they have that confidence from 779 00:37:30,920 --> 00:37:36,200 Speaker 4: having hundreds of matches doing something else. And yeah, So 780 00:37:36,640 --> 00:37:39,120 Speaker 4: like that's where a lot of my confidence came from, 781 00:37:39,280 --> 00:37:43,040 Speaker 4: was I'd been in hundreds and thousands of matches and 782 00:37:43,120 --> 00:37:46,799 Speaker 4: that that experience of I am in these scary situations. 783 00:37:46,880 --> 00:37:49,560 Speaker 4: But when I'm in these scary situations, I do my best. 784 00:37:49,680 --> 00:37:54,160 Speaker 4: That's where a lot of that confidence comes from. 785 00:37:54,320 --> 00:37:56,600 Speaker 3: What does peace look like for Ronda Rowley today. 786 00:37:57,320 --> 00:38:01,280 Speaker 4: Peace, Oh man, I want to go. Well, my younger, 787 00:38:01,440 --> 00:38:07,600 Speaker 4: my youngest son is he just committed to Boise and yeah, 788 00:38:07,680 --> 00:38:12,520 Speaker 4: and so we're going to be moving to Hawaii and 789 00:38:12,600 --> 00:38:15,200 Speaker 4: I'm going to go, you know, wrinkle under the sun 790 00:38:15,239 --> 00:38:17,640 Speaker 4: in paradise and bang out some babies and that is 791 00:38:17,880 --> 00:38:19,520 Speaker 4: that's that's that's my peace. 792 00:38:20,600 --> 00:38:22,440 Speaker 2: I love that. Yeah, I love that you had that 793 00:38:22,480 --> 00:38:23,040 Speaker 2: place in life. 794 00:38:23,040 --> 00:38:24,640 Speaker 5: A lot of times when you have such a big 795 00:38:24,719 --> 00:38:27,680 Speaker 5: career as a woman, you don't always get to this 796 00:38:27,760 --> 00:38:29,879 Speaker 5: place of like peace where that can be your piece, 797 00:38:29,880 --> 00:38:30,760 Speaker 5: where it's like family. 798 00:38:31,080 --> 00:38:32,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, you have to settle for other things. 799 00:38:32,880 --> 00:38:36,080 Speaker 4: Well, I think like my mom, she she got married 800 00:38:36,120 --> 00:38:38,680 Speaker 4: and had kids really young, and she always told us like, 801 00:38:38,719 --> 00:38:42,239 Speaker 4: don't get married young, and don't get married young. He 802 00:38:42,360 --> 00:38:46,239 Speaker 4: don't have kids young? Why not? Well she I think 803 00:38:46,280 --> 00:38:48,959 Speaker 4: she felt pressured at a young age. She got married 804 00:38:48,960 --> 00:38:52,799 Speaker 4: at like nineteen and you know, Catholic upbringing, felt like 805 00:38:52,840 --> 00:38:55,800 Speaker 4: she was living in sin and had had to marry 806 00:38:55,800 --> 00:38:58,319 Speaker 4: the guy, you know what I mean. And so I 807 00:38:58,320 --> 00:39:01,440 Speaker 4: think he just you're still getting to know yourself at 808 00:39:01,440 --> 00:39:05,760 Speaker 4: that age and you're not gonna I think you're lucky 809 00:39:05,840 --> 00:39:10,319 Speaker 4: if you find the one, because otherwise it's like, how 810 00:39:10,320 --> 00:39:11,800 Speaker 4: are you gonna know what you're gonna want for the 811 00:39:11,800 --> 00:39:13,399 Speaker 4: rest of your life? You don't even know who you are. 812 00:39:14,239 --> 00:39:17,520 Speaker 4: And so she always told us to make sure that 813 00:39:17,560 --> 00:39:20,760 Speaker 4: we wait. And so I'm really glad that I waited, 814 00:39:20,800 --> 00:39:22,759 Speaker 4: and I got wanted all my career stuff to be 815 00:39:22,840 --> 00:39:26,360 Speaker 4: done upfront so then I could just focus on my 816 00:39:26,440 --> 00:39:28,920 Speaker 4: kids because I saw my mom having three jobs and 817 00:39:29,000 --> 00:39:32,319 Speaker 4: raising us and you know, just doing doing everything on 818 00:39:32,360 --> 00:39:35,640 Speaker 4: expert level, because having kids makes everything expert level, and 819 00:39:35,680 --> 00:39:37,920 Speaker 4: I want to do the career on easy level. And 820 00:39:37,960 --> 00:39:42,919 Speaker 4: then do you know, momming on easy level, which I think, yeah, 821 00:39:42,960 --> 00:39:46,239 Speaker 4: well it's easy level compared to having three jobs and 822 00:39:47,120 --> 00:39:49,719 Speaker 4: being a mom, you know, but having three jobs of 823 00:39:49,719 --> 00:39:53,000 Speaker 4: being a mom compared to like, I could just focus 824 00:39:53,040 --> 00:39:55,319 Speaker 4: on being a mom, and if I need someone to 825 00:39:55,360 --> 00:39:58,239 Speaker 4: help me, like clean the house or something like that, 826 00:39:58,360 --> 00:40:00,520 Speaker 4: or help me like watch the kids, I'm not like 827 00:40:01,640 --> 00:40:03,799 Speaker 4: I have the means to do it, you know. And 828 00:40:05,800 --> 00:40:08,000 Speaker 4: that's what my mom wanted for us, is she. I 829 00:40:08,040 --> 00:40:11,000 Speaker 4: think she didn't want us to have to be working 830 00:40:11,040 --> 00:40:12,719 Speaker 4: three jobs and have her kids at the same time 831 00:40:12,760 --> 00:40:15,160 Speaker 4: and have it be as difficult as it was for her, 832 00:40:15,280 --> 00:40:18,160 Speaker 4: you know, she wants every generation to have it easier 833 00:40:18,200 --> 00:40:20,359 Speaker 4: than the one before that, and so that was kind 834 00:40:20,400 --> 00:40:23,359 Speaker 4: of like now now it's like, oh, I've done it all, 835 00:40:23,520 --> 00:40:25,879 Speaker 4: and I can go I can do I can mom 836 00:40:25,960 --> 00:40:28,400 Speaker 4: real hard right now, and I can just focus on 837 00:40:28,480 --> 00:40:30,600 Speaker 4: that and not worry about it. 838 00:40:30,760 --> 00:40:32,799 Speaker 3: And you know, you talked about writing the sequel to 839 00:40:32,840 --> 00:40:35,839 Speaker 3: Expect Unexpected. Do you see storytelling as a new form 840 00:40:35,840 --> 00:40:36,520 Speaker 3: of healing for you? 841 00:40:37,160 --> 00:40:40,399 Speaker 4: Yeah, I think that's a really great way to put it. 842 00:40:40,440 --> 00:40:42,640 Speaker 4: And why I got into it. I didn't get into 843 00:40:42,680 --> 00:40:47,440 Speaker 4: comics to be the next great comic book writer. Like 844 00:40:47,480 --> 00:40:50,080 Speaker 4: this is something that like really feeds my soul and 845 00:40:50,120 --> 00:40:52,239 Speaker 4: makes me happy and I'm just obsessed with it and 846 00:40:52,280 --> 00:40:54,560 Speaker 4: i can't walk away from it and I can't stop 847 00:40:54,600 --> 00:40:57,480 Speaker 4: doing it. And I'm just really lucky to be in 848 00:40:57,480 --> 00:41:00,400 Speaker 4: a situation where I can find people like the you know, 849 00:41:00,520 --> 00:41:03,480 Speaker 4: the guys at Awa that that I can use my 850 00:41:03,600 --> 00:41:05,439 Speaker 4: name or even just get them to read it and 851 00:41:05,840 --> 00:41:08,000 Speaker 4: get you know, Axel Alonzo as a former like you 852 00:41:08,000 --> 00:41:10,879 Speaker 4: know editor in Cheat at Marvel to like look at 853 00:41:10,880 --> 00:41:13,960 Speaker 4: my scripts and and help me out with it and 854 00:41:14,640 --> 00:41:17,000 Speaker 4: get like said, like a dream team of people to 855 00:41:17,040 --> 00:41:20,360 Speaker 4: make this as good as possible. And you know I 856 00:41:20,360 --> 00:41:22,439 Speaker 4: am able to do that because of the other things 857 00:41:22,480 --> 00:41:25,520 Speaker 4: that I accomplished before, but I'm also not going to 858 00:41:25,600 --> 00:41:28,839 Speaker 4: try and just like you know coast On that I 859 00:41:28,880 --> 00:41:32,720 Speaker 4: want this to be able to exceed every expectation, because 860 00:41:32,760 --> 00:41:35,040 Speaker 4: you know, I'm not really good at half assing things. 861 00:41:35,080 --> 00:41:36,959 Speaker 4: I want. If I want to make like a graphic novel, 862 00:41:36,960 --> 00:41:39,040 Speaker 4: I'll make the best fucking graphic novel I can make, 863 00:41:39,080 --> 00:41:42,319 Speaker 4: and make the best universe possible and make it the 864 00:41:42,360 --> 00:41:47,200 Speaker 4: best sequel possible, and if possible, like make it into 865 00:41:47,360 --> 00:41:49,400 Speaker 4: like make it into a film, make it into whatever, 866 00:41:50,360 --> 00:41:52,520 Speaker 4: create something out of nothing, out of just your mind. 867 00:41:52,680 --> 00:41:57,000 Speaker 4: I think that that that's incredible, especially when everything that 868 00:41:57,680 --> 00:42:00,000 Speaker 4: I've done that people really value has been so physical. 869 00:42:00,239 --> 00:42:02,840 Speaker 4: To be able to do something stable like this is, uh, 870 00:42:03,000 --> 00:42:04,000 Speaker 4: it's really valuable to me. 871 00:42:04,600 --> 00:42:08,080 Speaker 3: So what still drives you now, legacy? Love? Something deep? 872 00:42:08,800 --> 00:42:12,879 Speaker 4: Oh, I don't know, I guess, I guess love. I'm 873 00:42:12,960 --> 00:42:14,960 Speaker 4: very much in love with my amazing husband and my 874 00:42:15,000 --> 00:42:19,959 Speaker 4: amazing kids. And yeah, it's I think trying to find 875 00:42:20,000 --> 00:42:22,719 Speaker 4: things that are are our self fulfilling instead of looking 876 00:42:22,760 --> 00:42:26,600 Speaker 4: for that fulfillment outside of myself. Has been the real 877 00:42:26,680 --> 00:42:30,320 Speaker 4: lesson that I've gleaned from all of this and real happiness, 878 00:42:30,360 --> 00:42:33,960 Speaker 4: you know, and it's it's really nice to be able 879 00:42:34,000 --> 00:42:36,960 Speaker 4: to kind of, like, I don't know, separate myself from 880 00:42:36,960 --> 00:42:41,960 Speaker 4: that having to feel like I have to like perform 881 00:42:42,040 --> 00:42:44,600 Speaker 4: my life for people watching and just be like, you 882 00:42:44,600 --> 00:42:47,840 Speaker 4: know what, I'm really happy not not posting anything for 883 00:42:47,840 --> 00:42:50,000 Speaker 4: for weeks on end, instead of being like, oh, what's 884 00:42:50,000 --> 00:42:52,040 Speaker 4: gonna be like my post today? How do I make 885 00:42:52,040 --> 00:42:54,200 Speaker 4: sure that people know that I'm I'm doing stuff and 886 00:42:54,239 --> 00:42:56,759 Speaker 4: looking good and you know, still in the mix or 887 00:42:56,800 --> 00:42:59,680 Speaker 4: something like that, and it's otherwise being like what I 888 00:42:59,719 --> 00:43:00,960 Speaker 4: really I don't want to think about it. Me and 889 00:43:01,000 --> 00:43:03,319 Speaker 4: my husband we all got all new phones when we 890 00:43:03,360 --> 00:43:05,680 Speaker 4: moved to Hawaii, and we're just going to have to 891 00:43:05,840 --> 00:43:08,840 Speaker 4: start over again and not have you know, we have 892 00:43:08,880 --> 00:43:10,840 Speaker 4: our work phone with all of our stuff and stuff 893 00:43:10,840 --> 00:43:14,280 Speaker 4: on it, but have something with no social media, know anything, 894 00:43:14,520 --> 00:43:16,920 Speaker 4: you know, just give the number to people that are 895 00:43:16,920 --> 00:43:19,319 Speaker 4: close to us, and then once a day go and 896 00:43:19,400 --> 00:43:21,799 Speaker 4: check the work phone and check everything out. Instead of 897 00:43:21,880 --> 00:43:26,720 Speaker 4: just being like mentally stuck in this like yeah. 898 00:43:26,760 --> 00:43:29,400 Speaker 5: I was just wait, I get to that point in 899 00:43:29,480 --> 00:43:34,240 Speaker 5: career that was cute. Yes, start over a fresh phone 900 00:43:34,480 --> 00:43:35,560 Speaker 5: laid on the beach. 901 00:43:35,360 --> 00:43:39,440 Speaker 4: On my side, Yeah exactly. Oh yeah, it's so close 902 00:43:39,520 --> 00:43:40,640 Speaker 4: I can I can taste it. 903 00:43:40,719 --> 00:43:42,640 Speaker 2: You know, I really believe you not getting back in 904 00:43:42,680 --> 00:43:43,239 Speaker 2: the ring now. 905 00:43:43,560 --> 00:43:45,399 Speaker 5: After talking to you. At first, I was like, it's 906 00:43:45,400 --> 00:43:47,480 Speaker 5: no because you're posting these videos. But after talking to you, 907 00:43:47,760 --> 00:43:49,640 Speaker 5: I mean, if you would, I'd be confused because you're. 908 00:43:49,480 --> 00:43:50,279 Speaker 2: So happy right now. 909 00:43:50,320 --> 00:43:50,960 Speaker 4: Oh thank you. 910 00:43:51,160 --> 00:43:52,160 Speaker 2: You seem happy anyway. 911 00:43:52,320 --> 00:43:55,360 Speaker 4: Yeah, if I if I would, it wouldn't be in 912 00:43:55,400 --> 00:43:57,640 Speaker 4: a place to like I'm trying to patch up my 913 00:43:57,719 --> 00:44:00,520 Speaker 4: happiness and try to like find an antidote. I think 914 00:44:00,560 --> 00:44:03,320 Speaker 4: that's what it was before. If like, oh if I 915 00:44:03,440 --> 00:44:05,440 Speaker 4: get this fight, if I win this, then I'll be happy. 916 00:44:05,920 --> 00:44:08,759 Speaker 4: You know. I think like if it would come from 917 00:44:08,800 --> 00:44:11,600 Speaker 4: an entirely different space, if ever, if ever came at all, 918 00:44:12,680 --> 00:44:17,880 Speaker 4: that it might happen. Okay, that Mike Tyson, you can 919 00:44:17,960 --> 00:44:18,839 Speaker 4: never say never. Now. 920 00:44:19,880 --> 00:44:22,160 Speaker 3: Look at the shitty gets though, like like, oh you 921 00:44:22,200 --> 00:44:22,600 Speaker 3: come out there. 922 00:44:22,560 --> 00:44:24,400 Speaker 4: You got he got twenty million dollars. 923 00:44:24,440 --> 00:44:28,120 Speaker 3: I mean some ship I wasn't get for whatever reason. 924 00:44:29,000 --> 00:44:30,520 Speaker 3: You're right, it is agenda thing. You just got to 925 00:44:30,520 --> 00:44:31,520 Speaker 3: tell them what it is. End thin. 926 00:44:31,719 --> 00:44:33,359 Speaker 1: It's just different for them, Like they can come out 927 00:44:33,400 --> 00:44:36,440 Speaker 1: there fight the youtubeers. Nobody says, oh, it's a trash 928 00:44:36,480 --> 00:44:39,040 Speaker 1: ass fight. Nobody says, you just collecting a check like 929 00:44:39,440 --> 00:44:41,160 Speaker 1: it's and he still gets tired. 930 00:44:41,239 --> 00:44:42,480 Speaker 3: It's the baddest man on the planet. 931 00:44:42,640 --> 00:44:45,280 Speaker 4: Baddest man on the planet. One hundred and eight million views, 932 00:44:46,760 --> 00:44:50,160 Speaker 4: So fucking comment whatever you want. That's the most watched 933 00:44:50,160 --> 00:44:53,799 Speaker 4: fight of all time. And he was almost sixty. Yeah, 934 00:44:53,840 --> 00:44:56,680 Speaker 4: like that's that's and that's how much his legacy means, 935 00:44:56,760 --> 00:44:59,719 Speaker 4: how much his name, his name means you know like 936 00:44:59,760 --> 00:45:03,520 Speaker 4: that that that was really inspiring to me personally to 937 00:45:03,200 --> 00:45:05,000 Speaker 4: to see to see him do that. 938 00:45:05,120 --> 00:45:07,400 Speaker 1: We need a popular female YouTube with a turn m 939 00:45:07,480 --> 00:45:10,399 Speaker 1: m a fighter real quick, all right, that's real quick. 940 00:45:10,400 --> 00:45:11,560 Speaker 3: Who's who is it? 941 00:45:11,680 --> 00:45:12,320 Speaker 4: Jenna Marbles? 942 00:45:12,360 --> 00:45:16,880 Speaker 5: I'm coming for you, demol Jenn State right there in 943 00:45:16,880 --> 00:45:17,600 Speaker 5: front of that camera. 944 00:45:18,960 --> 00:45:21,040 Speaker 3: Just get the money on Netflix. That'll be a quick. 945 00:45:20,840 --> 00:45:23,799 Speaker 5: Little you know, who is she don't need to be 946 00:45:23,800 --> 00:45:28,680 Speaker 5: in the ring with keeping getting like house tours and 947 00:45:28,719 --> 00:45:30,400 Speaker 5: all those stream. 948 00:45:33,760 --> 00:45:37,600 Speaker 3: Who do you think you lie? Krishan Rock versus Ronda Rowsey? 949 00:45:37,640 --> 00:45:38,120 Speaker 3: What were doing? 950 00:45:38,200 --> 00:45:39,480 Speaker 4: Netflix? Zeus? 951 00:45:39,480 --> 00:45:47,160 Speaker 1: What's up? Versus Randa Rousey. Everybody will tune in to 952 00:45:47,160 --> 00:45:47,520 Speaker 1: watch that. 953 00:45:48,360 --> 00:45:49,759 Speaker 2: Do you know who Christian is? 954 00:45:51,360 --> 00:45:54,319 Speaker 4: Am I aging myself by saying no, you're not, No, 955 00:45:54,400 --> 00:45:54,759 Speaker 4: you're not. 956 00:45:55,719 --> 00:45:57,680 Speaker 5: There are people of all ages that may not be 957 00:45:57,760 --> 00:45:59,880 Speaker 5: into the Chris Shawan Rock of Things. 958 00:46:00,520 --> 00:46:02,799 Speaker 1: She's younger than you and she can scrap, but I 959 00:46:02,800 --> 00:46:03,759 Speaker 1: got my money on you. 960 00:46:04,200 --> 00:46:05,719 Speaker 3: But everybody will tune in for that. 961 00:46:06,040 --> 00:46:09,640 Speaker 1: Okay, Kashan Rock versus Ronda Rowsey, Dana White, what's up? 962 00:46:10,000 --> 00:46:13,560 Speaker 3: Netflix? What's up? Zeus? What's up? Let's make that happen. 963 00:46:14,080 --> 00:46:16,359 Speaker 1: We'll come out there, host it, getting on all the 964 00:46:16,360 --> 00:46:22,839 Speaker 1: iHeart stations promoting crazy Shan Rock versus Ronda Rowsey. I'm 965 00:46:22,840 --> 00:46:24,000 Speaker 1: putting everything on Ronda. 966 00:46:24,040 --> 00:46:24,400 Speaker 3: What's up? 967 00:46:25,080 --> 00:46:25,319 Speaker 2: Heart? 968 00:46:26,719 --> 00:46:28,880 Speaker 3: That's the matchup you would if you can make it happen. 969 00:46:29,040 --> 00:46:33,200 Speaker 4: Well, what's what's like? Sean's like logline like. 970 00:46:33,480 --> 00:46:36,839 Speaker 5: Who is just this? 971 00:46:36,880 --> 00:46:39,000 Speaker 2: And blue face? You know who blue faces down? 972 00:46:39,719 --> 00:46:44,879 Speaker 4: No, listen, Miss Rachel is like my whole universe right now. 973 00:46:49,680 --> 00:46:50,360 Speaker 4: She's beautiful. 974 00:46:51,360 --> 00:46:53,879 Speaker 3: She fights, he's fighting like street fight. 975 00:46:54,239 --> 00:46:55,440 Speaker 2: Got to God though. 976 00:46:55,480 --> 00:46:58,840 Speaker 1: She reasonedly got twenty five, got a couple of kids, 977 00:46:58,840 --> 00:46:59,640 Speaker 1: suit the matchup. 978 00:46:59,880 --> 00:47:01,960 Speaker 4: I don't know she found God him. I have to 979 00:47:02,000 --> 00:47:03,720 Speaker 4: go like hit up Azalea Banks or something. 980 00:47:05,040 --> 00:47:10,280 Speaker 3: Oh my god, now we were shot the rock banks. 981 00:47:10,640 --> 00:47:12,200 Speaker 3: Oh my god, we're. 982 00:47:12,080 --> 00:47:14,320 Speaker 2: Doing some great, great. 983 00:47:16,080 --> 00:47:16,839 Speaker 3: Banks. What were doing? 984 00:47:16,920 --> 00:47:17,359 Speaker 2: I'm there. 985 00:47:18,480 --> 00:47:20,040 Speaker 4: I'd walk out to her song, just. 986 00:47:21,640 --> 00:47:22,680 Speaker 3: We gotta make this happen. 987 00:47:22,760 --> 00:47:26,160 Speaker 1: It's Ronda Rowsey Expecting the unexpected is available now. 988 00:47:26,160 --> 00:47:27,280 Speaker 3: Thank you for joining us. 989 00:47:27,120 --> 00:47:28,719 Speaker 4: Thank you for having me. It's a great time. 990 00:47:28,800 --> 00:47:32,279 Speaker 3: Absolutely. It's the Breakfast Club, every. 991 00:47:32,080 --> 00:47:35,120 Speaker 1: Day, a week ago, up the Breakfast Club. 992 00:47:35,360 --> 00:47:36,600 Speaker 3: You don't finish, y'all done,