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Speaker 2: He is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com and

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Speaker 2: the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. Cowboys blowing out of the backfield.

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Speaker 3: They're flowing down the sidelines.

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Speaker 4: This He's Hanging with the Boys, presented by Wingstuck Where

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Speaker 4: Flavor gets its wings.

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Speaker 1: Now your hosts.

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Speaker 5: Nate Newton, Kirk Daniels, Jesse Holly, and Shannon.

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Speaker 6: Gross Live Thursday, look at Tostitos Championship Plaza outside Ford.

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Speaker 3: Center at the Star in Frisco, Texas. Maybe fall is here.

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Speaker 3: Maybe it's eighty one degrees.

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Speaker 5: The high is just a nice calm, mostly cloudy, eighty

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Speaker 5: three degrees.

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Speaker 3: The load of night is sixty six. Get the blankets out.

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Speaker 7: A little by to pull a little pullover on. You

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Speaker 7: know what I'm saying in the back. It's Chris being

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Speaker 7: keeping his lively local. He is three time Super Bowl champion.

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Speaker 7: Nate Newton, This is the bearded one. This is my guy.

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Speaker 7: Kurt three Pump Daniels. Get your fly though, Kurt three pumps,

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Speaker 7: get your fly too.

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Speaker 1: You're good. I am salt and pepper poppy.

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Speaker 7: Together we make Hanging with the Boys the sports talk

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Speaker 7: equivalent of the brow people.

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Speaker 5: When we speak to each and every show by when

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Speaker 5: you stop or flavor gets its wide.

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Speaker 3: This year, Kurt might just be out of business in

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Speaker 3: the NFL.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I got ten plane, no sauce, Jesse, Please this

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Speaker 2: dude like what he liked, right, but he will stick

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Speaker 2: his head.

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Speaker 8: Tell you I got a couple.

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Speaker 7: No, no, no, So the last time, remember the last time

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Speaker 7: we had wings, He's all, I ain't gonna be here.

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Speaker 7: I ain't gonna be We had already put the order in, right,

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Speaker 7: so they bring them. I'm like, say, he wasn't gonna

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Speaker 7: be here, so I snatched about three of them flats.

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Speaker 3: He showed up.

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Speaker 1: He shows up.

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Speaker 9: So now.

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Speaker 7: Let me let me just tell you you're gonna be

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Speaker 7: a little shot when you open your box.

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Speaker 1: I thought you wasn't.

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Speaker 8: Gonna be Did I say that? It's all good, man,

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Speaker 8: all good, because I'm telling you what chicken is chicken, baby,

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Speaker 8: Whether it's that the trailer funk had a high ride, baby, not.

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Speaker 3: All, not all chicken wings are created equal.

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Speaker 8: You're right about that.

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Speaker 3: I've got the market.

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Speaker 8: Right by that.

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Speaker 7: Now you this your first time trying their new fries. Yes,

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Speaker 7: I've had them ordered the first This is your first.

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Speaker 3: Order delivery all the time when you stopped. I like

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Speaker 3: the old ones better. I still like the old ones, man, I.

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Speaker 8: Like that skin job.

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Speaker 1: I like the new ones ones.

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Speaker 3: I like the sugar season and they had.

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Speaker 1: The new ones are good. They still do the sugar season.

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Speaker 5: It's not as it's not as poke. I still like

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Speaker 2: I can sit these new ones on my seat, not

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Speaker 3: Yeah, hey, when you order fries at wingstop, you get

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Speaker 5: Man, Yeah, Kurt, this year you might be out of business.

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Speaker 3: One pump, get your flag this year.

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Speaker 7: Not still too pumps. You can't pump in the direction

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Speaker 8: I get it, Like what if.

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Speaker 5: You what if you what if you turn around and

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Speaker 3: Yeah, almost a one one gotta do it out of

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Speaker 1: Year, I guess if you look back at it. Though,

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Speaker 2: What's amazing the things that they miss in the in

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Speaker 2: the petty things that they're attacking and it's god.

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Speaker 7: They hitting up for some fines too. Yeah, they hit

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Speaker 7: CD and in George last week for almost fifty grand.

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Speaker 7: You know what tho combined they had they had the

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Speaker 1: Yeah, the celebration that they did two weeks ago they had.

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Speaker 7: They hit him for They hit him for twelve thousand

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Speaker 3: For some CD got on the ground for the Yeah,

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Speaker 7: And then they got they got another like fourteen grand

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Speaker 5: You know, give you give the refs a lot of grief,

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Speaker 5: we all do. But the human element, as fast as

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Speaker 5: Mean when you slow it down and you watch it

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Speaker 5: But if you've ever been on a football field and

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Speaker 5: I don't The only one I don't I can't ever

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Speaker 3: You could call holding on every single.

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Speaker 7: Game sixteen hours, Oh my god, Like when here the

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Speaker 7: next Tuesday.

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Speaker 3: Every single play you could call a holding.

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Speaker 5: But I think they you know, we give him a

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Speaker 5: lot of crap, but they do a pretty good.

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Speaker 8: Job in real time. So you know, sometimes I just

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Speaker 2: I'm sorry, and this is already straight at you, Jesse,

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Speaker 2: and it's not bad.

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Speaker 8: I want to know what is the number one receiver?

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Speaker 1: Oh, don't do this.

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Speaker 5: Hell love when he comes here, you know what he did.

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Speaker 5: He heard something, he heard something last night or this morning,

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Speaker 5: and he gonna call him out my name or tell

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Speaker 3: But it's like, you know, I've heard like eight or

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Speaker 1: Just it's on his jersey, right, just one line. You

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Speaker 2: I don't think a lot of people understand. We throw well,

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Speaker 2: throw away, We throw around the words greatness, exation, generational,

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Speaker 2: and I'm like, are you just trying to get likes?

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Speaker 8: What? What's the new things? I don't want to miss

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Speaker 8: the new things that they.

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Speaker 1: Call it engagement.

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Speaker 2: You're trying to get engagement for me, You're trying to

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Speaker 2: I'm the guy that can't pronounce words, but I do

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Speaker 2: know the definition definition of most of these words, and

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Speaker 2: y'all guys are using them wrong. I mean to me,

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Speaker 2: and I got to go with the guy I played with.

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Speaker 2: Michael Irvin was a number one receiver. Alvin Harper wasn't.

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Speaker 3: He was very good.

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Speaker 2: He was a specialty receiver. He ran certain routes. Well,

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Speaker 2: now let me go even further. I'm gonna use a

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Speaker 2: basketball analogy. When you play for a team that wins

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Speaker 2: twenty five games and you're the number one shooter, and

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Speaker 2: you shoot thirty times a game and average twenty points

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Speaker 2: a game, and then you go to the next team

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Speaker 2: and you're the fifth option, but you are the number

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Speaker 2: one on the other team. This ain't the other team, dog. Okay,

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Speaker 2: So I said a whole lot. Only the intelligent.

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Speaker 8: Will get it, and the rest of y'all.

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Speaker 2: Will continue to use the wrong definitions for certain words.

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Speaker 8: Thank you.

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Speaker 7: Don't need for me the same words now, man, we

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Speaker 7: just come on, fellas and girls, do you not watch football?

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Speaker 8: Do you not watch football?

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Speaker 2: I challenge and anybody that want to walk up to

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Speaker 2: me and explain to me what Michael Irvin looked like.

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Speaker 2: I played with him. Okay, I know what Jerry Rice

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Speaker 2: I know what the kid in Minnesota look like. I

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Speaker 2: know what CD look like. Don't you can't make everybody

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Speaker 2: these guys. Everybody ain't going to the Hall of Fame now.

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Speaker 2: They're gonna put some some duds in there. They're coming soon.

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Speaker 8: But hey, I like.

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Speaker 5: That.

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Speaker 8: All right, Well keep going, come through for the whole

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Speaker 8: show or just for now.

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Speaker 2: And I'm just just didn't want to ask some man,

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Speaker 2: I didn't want to answer, didn't want to answer.

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Speaker 1: I have a chance to You did what you had

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Speaker 1: to do. I got out the way.

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Speaker 10: We're over hyping folks here.

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Speaker 1: Nate just wants a clarification, man.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, man, cause Jesson I stopped. If Jesse was going

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Speaker 8: to eat, I like, jess it, what's going on here?

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Speaker 8: But anyway, Hey, come on, y'all, let's go. Let's go chant.

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Speaker 8: I'm sorry, y'all, let me do.

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Speaker 3: Let's just take a break.

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Speaker 5: Let's take a break, start to show, yeah, and then

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Speaker 5: we'll start over the week come back, okay.

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Speaker 3: Well, hanging with the boys be right back.

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Speaker 3: that first segment. Very inspiring, inspiring.

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Speaker 5: Speaking of inspiration, Jesse went into deep thought mode yesterday.

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Speaker 8: Yes he did two days ago.

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Speaker 3: He kind of went off somewhere in his mind.

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Speaker 5: He locked himself in the closet and he's back out today.

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Speaker 5: And I want to know, what were you thinking about yesterday.

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Speaker 3: That you got just real quiet? Yeah about coat is

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Speaker 5: Yes, so we got a whole segment dedicated to you.

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Speaker 7: Well, here's the thing when and you know, coach Schottenheimer

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Speaker 7: And you know, one of the things that I caution

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Speaker 7: thing was is about culture, right, like, oh, culture, culture, culture,

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Speaker 1: That only works well when there's wins behind that.

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Speaker 7: Keep talking about your culture has to be like your

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Speaker 7: Culture don't get you through this. I'm sorry what they're

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Speaker 1: My boy is running out.

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Speaker 7: We're in week four if you take because now first

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Speaker 1: We were close, right.

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Speaker 7: Then you kind of get a shoot out victory and

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Speaker 1: Right, it wasn't pretty.

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Speaker 7: You can pick a lot of things out of that

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Speaker 1: The proper way and go that wasn't good football.

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Speaker 7: Then you go on the road and you lose bad,

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Speaker 7: and that's another week of the communication, the execution. All

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Speaker 7: It's not like you're a coordinator in you know you're

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Speaker 7: But you now write these checks that we're going to

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Speaker 7: So I just I'm looking at this thing and the message,

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Speaker 1: For coach? And what now is your second pitch? Right?

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Speaker 7: Like you all right, we got the fastball, we get it.

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Speaker 7: You can talk game, but now what happens now? And

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Speaker 3: Every year, Belichick had a game or two that he.

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Speaker 7: a half. To me, here's the moment. Here's like you.

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Speaker 10: Big, your coach, first year head coach.

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Speaker 8: Do this.

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Speaker 7: You have to because you've talked such a great game

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Speaker 1: This is when you and and the win doesn't have

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Speaker 7: It's in these games where you're not expected to win

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Speaker 7: If it's a twelve eleven game, you want it because

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Speaker 7: You you you, you, You practice like you've never practiced before.

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Speaker 7: You've called on your other coaches to give me your best. Hey,

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Speaker 7: I'm just gonna I'm gonna script these things up. I'm

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Speaker 7: find that thing that Ben Johnson fouled on you.

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Speaker 1: Defensively, it said, oh nah, we went.

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Speaker 10: Would you consider it a success if like Philadelphia, they

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Speaker 7: You gotta win, you gotta because of the losses that

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Speaker 7: They gonna say, well, Kurt, aren't you the head.

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Speaker 7: You're the head of You're the head football coach. Everything

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Speaker 1: You want and one in that stretch, it's not good.

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Speaker 7: And and now the pressure is so heavy on you.

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Speaker 1: And they figure out away through coaching. So that that

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Speaker 7: I was just like, man, this is this is a heavy,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a tough you down. You know, one in three,

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Speaker 7: You're already down with two conference two conference games. Who

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Speaker 10: I'm much wonder though, that will he get in a

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Speaker 1: Like the playoff game a few years ago? I don't

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Speaker 7: Like if you if you go down to the wire

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Speaker 1: I didn't happen number one.

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Speaker 7: This guy's you know, but if this thing if you

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Speaker 2: You don't and you don't get you don't get the

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Speaker 2: You know, uh, you gotta you gotta think. We lose

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Speaker 2: to Philadelphia. I'm like, wow, man, Wow, we lost to Philadelphia.

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Speaker 8: There.

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Speaker 2: I come to this job and everybody talking about man,

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Speaker 2: boy who if more victories count? Boy, we sure got one.

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Speaker 8: You know. Then we we we're gonna shootout with New York.

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Speaker 2: Oh man, well when as good as we thought, Oh,

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Speaker 2: but we're gonna get Chicago.

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Speaker 8: Then you get blowed out.

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Speaker 2: See the arrogance of our fans. Win, lose, a draw,

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Speaker 2: you're gonna get punished. You can't win good enough, and

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Speaker 2: you definitely can show enough lose bad enough.

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Speaker 8: So he's got to win. It's about one.

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Speaker 2: You know, we dot com come in here and build it up.

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Speaker 2: But the fans out there, oh, they finna come at them.

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Speaker 2: They're finna come at them.

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Speaker 8: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: It's it's a uh you know, it's it's.

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Speaker 7: I know your mind, yeah, because I don't I don't

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Speaker 7: know like to to to be facing because next, honestly,

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Speaker 7: because next what has to happen is that if we're

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Speaker 7: just kind of going in of usually how thing goes,

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Speaker 7: somebody gotta get fired. And we know it's not going

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Speaker 7: to be Shottenheimer, maybe an assistant, a court like somebody.

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Speaker 7: Because once, and I'm not saying after this game, but

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Speaker 7: once you get to that point where we've changed and

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Speaker 7: simplified the system, We've shuffled players in and out, and

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Speaker 7: it's still not yielding the results of winning, he.

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Speaker 10: Said, the kind of vibe you were getting when Wilson

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Speaker 10: or Phillips got fired in twenty ten.

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Speaker 1: It was Jason, Yeah, and Jerry said it.

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Speaker 7: He said it to us in the meeting, He said,

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Speaker 7: this is the this is the result of when things

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Speaker 7: don't go well, somebody has to pay the consequences. Can't

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Speaker 7: fire fifty three of us, all of us can't go.

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Speaker 1: You know what I mean.

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Speaker 8: So unless your clone is fifty two of you.

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Speaker 7: And Jason Garrets in case he wish he had fifty

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Speaker 7: three of the one he had left.

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Speaker 3: That one go.

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Speaker 5: I think the difference with that, Kurt is you had

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Speaker 5: reached a point in the season where that game it

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Speaker 5: looked like there was no effort. Everybody gave up this

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Speaker 5: you're still trying to figure it out. Now you don't

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Speaker 5: figure it out. I mean, this is uncharted territory.

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Speaker 7: That's why I'm saying that one maybe because it don't

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Speaker 7: look like one side of the ball is given the

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Speaker 7: greatest effort, so.

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Speaker 10: You think it's an effort. Issuear not to figure it out,

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Speaker 10: part because the new scheme new, no preseason.

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Speaker 8: Or what have you heard from players?

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Speaker 7: All I heard all off season this is all I

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Speaker 7: heard about this defense was how simple it was and

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Speaker 7: how it's not like ZIM had its last year and

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Speaker 7: it wasn't confusing, and we can line up and fly

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Speaker 7: around and you know we're gonna be back to getting

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Speaker 7: the turnovers.

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Speaker 1: And like, am I only one that heard? Am I

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Speaker 1: the only one that heard that?

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Speaker 8: I remember.

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Speaker 10: For sure.

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Speaker 7: But there were multiple players talking about how how much

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Speaker 7: this defense was more it was easier for them to

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Speaker 7: play under, and how they would be able to fly

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Speaker 7: around more and see the ball. You know, we could

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Speaker 7: see the ball now I want to attack the ball

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Speaker 7: and all that kind of stuff. We don't have our

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Speaker 7: back turned so much of the ball and all the

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Speaker 7: different kind of crazy schemes That's what I heard from

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Speaker 7: multiple players all off season.

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Speaker 2: Now, I don't want to I'm not trying to be funny,

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Speaker 2: and I promise you I'm not trying to be funny.

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Speaker 8: But and I'm and this is a fan question.

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Speaker 2: Do you think because coach Schottenheimer kept it so simple

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Speaker 2: during training camp and every preseason game was so simple to.

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Speaker 3: Our guys are confused now?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, because now teams we both know what the playbook

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Speaker 2: we run through doing training camp ain't the playbook I

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Speaker 2: saw when when when the real season lit up, the

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Speaker 2: things that we worked on the basics and all this

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Speaker 2: and you know, real quainting yourself with these certain routes

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Speaker 2: and combinations and blocking schemes and a few little new things.

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Speaker 2: But then we get to play with won't you know

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Speaker 2: spent when I was a young guy. You know, I'm like, wow,

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Speaker 2: this is this is something different. You know, when Shula

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Speaker 2: came in here, it was like I was already confused

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Speaker 2: from coach Landry. Then when Shular came in, I said, well,

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Speaker 2: don't get cut this year because I ain't gonna be

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Speaker 2: able to figure.

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Speaker 8: None of this out. And then then when Norv.

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Speaker 2: Came and I hate to say this, because we won

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Speaker 2: super Bowls in North but we had the simplest playbook,

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Speaker 2: I mean the simplest playbook talent.

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Speaker 8: Oh you fell for the bait.

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Speaker 8: Thank you, I've had my segment. Jesse's had his segment.

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Speaker 10: Kurt you open, Well, we should probably talk about hackers offense.

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Speaker 8: A little bit. No, no, no, no, no no, I've had

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Speaker 10: The don want to hear me breakdowns.

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Speaker 8: Well, well, let's go over to our best friend here.

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Speaker 5: All right, here's here's my thoughts. If Kurt won't participate.

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Speaker 3: Maybe trus some questions at you'd be jumping there?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, is I've never heard a coach in my time here.

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Speaker 5: Our head coach is very He talks about what they're

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Speaker 5: doing like you said, why they're doing it?

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Speaker 3: All that stuff right, very open, very This is why

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Speaker 3: it tells a lot of stories. Like you know, that's

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Speaker 3: I think that's why you gravitate towards him because he's

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Speaker 3: he's a he's a you know, personable person. Right. A

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Speaker 3: lot of coaches aren't. A lot of coaches hold it

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Speaker 3: close to the desk. I've never heard a coordinator.

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Speaker 5: Say this is what like Eberflus, we've simplified this to

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Speaker 5: where what you said, it's one word calls right.

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Speaker 7: I'll give you another quote from another coordinator. We're not

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Speaker 7: a coordinator, but yeah, coordinator slash off the line of

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Speaker 7: Clayton Adams. Clayton Adams said, nobody cares about your injuries

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Speaker 7: and you're expected to play good. We expect the players

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Speaker 7: in the room when they are when they get the

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Speaker 7: opportunity to play well. It's like it's difficult, like he's saying,

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Speaker 7: basically saying, I expect the guys when they get the

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Speaker 7: opportunities to play well. So, whether that's George Pickens, whether

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Speaker 7: that's Ryan Floinoyd, whether that's TJ. Bass or who whatever

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Speaker 7: it is, and he's that's right, Nobody cares that you're injured.

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Speaker 5: So you're hearing multiple coaches basically calling out your players

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Speaker 5: and saying, hey, we're doing all we can do.

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Speaker 3: We can only do so much. The rest of it's

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Speaker 3: on you, guys.

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Speaker 1: And that's and here's here's where it becomes scary hours,

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Speaker 1: spooky hours because players hear that, and now they're like.

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Speaker 3: They're pissed at the coaches for throwing them under the bus.

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Speaker 7: And now it's like, you're telling people we got one

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Speaker 7: word called. You're telling people you don't care about. So

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Speaker 7: now players are like.

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Speaker 3: I ain't playing for you, Not only.

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Speaker 7: Am I I got to defend myself now. So now

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Speaker 7: I gotta defend myself in the media. If it goes.

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Speaker 3: Wrong, then I'm gonna say something about you.

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Speaker 7: Then I gotta say something about your scary you go right,

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Speaker 7: And now that's why I keep saying, like, then it

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Speaker 7: blows up. That's the difference between a culture in a way,

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Speaker 7: because if once you don't once you have one guy

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Speaker 7: that bucks the culture and he pulls another two guys,

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Speaker 7: it's done. It's finished. It is finished, opposed to it

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Speaker 7: being a certain way how you handle yourself. That's how

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Speaker 7: it is. And and and now that you have coaches

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Speaker 7: basically because because what it comes out to be is

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Speaker 7: let me protect my butt.

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Speaker 1: Well, those seats start getting hot. Folks ain't looking for you.

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Speaker 7: They ain't too many life preservers being thrown off. Everybody

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Speaker 7: is like, nah, this you know, Titanic, this is my door.

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Speaker 7: I almost I'm gonna sit on this door or stay

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Speaker 7: afloat when that when seas start getting hot. And again

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Speaker 7: you go into this game and you have a defensively

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Speaker 7: you have another defensive game where you with Jordan Love

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Speaker 7: and company is three four five hundred yards of total

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Speaker 7: offense and you they put up the light up the scoreboard.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, they don't get anything. I mean, what's the good

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Speaker 10: of doing that? The only thing that could happen. I

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Speaker 10: guess they hope that this will motivate the guys to

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Speaker 10: play better, But it seems like all it's gonna.

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Speaker 7: Do is That's That's why I said, Man, you're getting

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Speaker 7: to a point where you're running out of things to.

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Speaker 5: And you're kind of at that tipping point now, like

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Speaker 5: as the coaches, you've called out the players, players aren't

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Speaker 5: doing their job. Now it's like it goes one way

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Speaker 5: or the other from here right, three games, four games in.

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00:34:06,040 --> 00:34:09,080
Speaker 5: You you're going after this game, you're either going, we're

665
00:34:09,080 --> 00:34:10,960
Speaker 5: gonna get it together and we'll go or you go,

666
00:34:11,239 --> 00:34:14,960
Speaker 5: it just fractures and it's gonna be a long, ugly.

667
00:34:16,200 --> 00:34:18,960
Speaker 3: Name calling season between.

668
00:34:19,239 --> 00:34:21,000
Speaker 1: And that's the difference between winning and losing.

669
00:34:21,120 --> 00:34:25,000
Speaker 10: I hope they hope they're competitive in this game like

670
00:34:25,000 --> 00:34:26,879
Speaker 10: they were against Philly and then they you know, they

671
00:34:26,920 --> 00:34:29,560
Speaker 10: got some games coming up, you know at the Jets,

672
00:34:29,960 --> 00:34:30,960
Speaker 10: at Carolina.

673
00:34:31,120 --> 00:34:34,520
Speaker 7: Who knows and just to speak offensively and defensively, you know,

674
00:34:34,600 --> 00:34:37,759
Speaker 7: for the for the Green Bay Packers. When you start

675
00:34:37,800 --> 00:34:42,520
Speaker 7: talking about that, that basket of coaches in this league,

676
00:34:43,040 --> 00:34:51,000
Speaker 7: the mcveigh's, the Shanahan's, the h Stefanskis, and you can

677
00:34:51,040 --> 00:34:53,200
Speaker 7: add on the floor to that mix too, like he's

678
00:34:53,239 --> 00:34:56,440
Speaker 7: one of those guys that if the and it's it's

679
00:34:57,000 --> 00:34:59,960
Speaker 7: the timing of this game, like coming off the Bears

680
00:35:00,080 --> 00:35:04,280
Speaker 7: game and what happened in that game, This timing couldn't

681
00:35:04,320 --> 00:35:10,799
Speaker 7: have been more worse, more bad, more just because everything

682
00:35:10,840 --> 00:35:18,440
Speaker 7: that you struggle with, I discipline, lane, discipline, assignment, like

683
00:35:18,560 --> 00:35:21,319
Speaker 7: all of that is the stuff that the Green Bay

684
00:35:21,440 --> 00:35:30,080
Speaker 7: Packers tight bunch formations, motions, formations, They got receivers, they

685
00:35:30,080 --> 00:35:32,279
Speaker 7: got tight ends, they got a running back that you're

686
00:35:32,280 --> 00:35:34,719
Speaker 7: gonna have to tackle for four quarters. They have a

687
00:35:34,800 --> 00:35:40,400
Speaker 7: quarterback who's mobile and elusive and has a great, great arm.

688
00:35:41,120 --> 00:35:46,160
Speaker 5: The only thing you, I guess my hope this week

689
00:35:46,520 --> 00:35:48,640
Speaker 5: is your Cowboys.

690
00:35:48,719 --> 00:35:50,719
Speaker 3: The worst thing you got going for usual defense in

691
00:35:50,760 --> 00:35:51,440
Speaker 3: your secondary.

692
00:35:52,000 --> 00:35:54,359
Speaker 5: The only thing that gives me a little hope is

693
00:35:55,120 --> 00:35:59,200
Speaker 5: Green Bay's offense is really good and solid everywhere.

694
00:35:58,719 --> 00:36:01,160
Speaker 3: But they're not explosive.

695
00:36:02,200 --> 00:36:06,080
Speaker 5: But if you need somebody to fix your explosiveness, this

696
00:36:06,160 --> 00:36:07,120
Speaker 5: is the right place.

697
00:36:07,560 --> 00:36:11,799
Speaker 1: The Giants didn't. Prior to the Giants playing.

698
00:36:11,520 --> 00:36:14,400
Speaker 3: The Cowboys, trying to hang on this they they didn't.

699
00:36:14,160 --> 00:36:16,600
Speaker 7: Have over two hundred yards of passing they played the

700
00:36:16,600 --> 00:36:17,719
Speaker 7: Cowboys have four fifty.

701
00:36:17,760 --> 00:36:20,479
Speaker 1: They don't play the Cowboys. They have nothing two hundred again, just.

702
00:36:20,400 --> 00:36:21,760
Speaker 3: Trying to hang on to something.

703
00:36:22,040 --> 00:36:28,000
Speaker 2: Their offensive line and I know Cleveland defensive line man

704
00:36:28,000 --> 00:36:29,840
Speaker 2: for man right now, right now is better.

705
00:36:30,760 --> 00:36:32,680
Speaker 1: Oh, they got a generational passions.

706
00:36:33,000 --> 00:36:41,359
Speaker 2: Yeah, but the thing is they they whooped green Bay's line.

707
00:36:41,440 --> 00:36:43,960
Speaker 2: Green Bays line has been beat up. The center to

708
00:36:44,080 --> 00:36:50,239
Speaker 2: me struggled number seventy four. Uh, he struggled Elton Jenkins

709
00:36:50,440 --> 00:36:53,680
Speaker 2: and and then and one of their tackles struggled. I

710
00:36:53,680 --> 00:36:57,960
Speaker 2: think it was the right tackle struggle. So and I

711
00:36:58,000 --> 00:37:00,799
Speaker 2: know that we don't we haven't. You know, you got

712
00:37:00,800 --> 00:37:03,839
Speaker 2: to add the defensive line to the defense because they

713
00:37:03,880 --> 00:37:08,560
Speaker 2: haven't showed up yet either. They have been exempt from

714
00:37:08,680 --> 00:37:15,600
Speaker 2: the the onstraught that the secondary has been taken. That's

715
00:37:15,640 --> 00:37:21,839
Speaker 2: your chance. That's your chance because looking at the film,

716
00:37:21,960 --> 00:37:24,879
Speaker 2: and Jesse tell me if you feel the same, they

717
00:37:24,920 --> 00:37:27,799
Speaker 2: are two and one. But if you look at take

718
00:37:27,840 --> 00:37:32,040
Speaker 2: out the film against Cleveland, and take out the film

719
00:37:32,400 --> 00:37:34,759
Speaker 2: against Detroit or Washington and just.

720
00:37:34,680 --> 00:37:37,880
Speaker 8: Look only at the defense, you would have swore that

721
00:37:37,960 --> 00:37:39,760
Speaker 8: won the game. Am I correct?

722
00:37:40,440 --> 00:37:44,120
Speaker 2: If you look only at their defense, you would have

723
00:37:44,200 --> 00:37:50,760
Speaker 2: sworn they beat Cleveland to death. And they lost because

724
00:37:50,880 --> 00:37:56,560
Speaker 2: Cleveland defensive line took over and whooped Green Bay. I

725
00:37:56,600 --> 00:38:00,520
Speaker 2: mean whooped them five sacks, maybe.

726
00:38:00,320 --> 00:38:01,839
Speaker 8: Ten or fifteen hits on the court.

727
00:38:01,880 --> 00:38:04,919
Speaker 2: They was after him and that kept him at bay

728
00:38:05,800 --> 00:38:08,080
Speaker 2: and he missed some plays and they shot down the

729
00:38:08,160 --> 00:38:11,080
Speaker 2: running game number eight. I like him, man, Josh Jay,

730
00:38:11,160 --> 00:38:14,200
Speaker 2: that boy is the pure I think he had thirty

731
00:38:14,239 --> 00:38:16,960
Speaker 2: yards rushing, another forty receiving.

732
00:38:17,040 --> 00:38:18,800
Speaker 8: So they took away their weapons.

733
00:38:19,360 --> 00:38:22,560
Speaker 2: So and I'm not saying the Cowboys are going to

734
00:38:22,680 --> 00:38:26,760
Speaker 2: do that, but they're gonna have to play a sound

735
00:38:27,280 --> 00:38:31,359
Speaker 2: defensive game, you know, and sometimes.

736
00:38:31,000 --> 00:38:34,640
Speaker 7: But I will say the thing that helped Cleveland be

737
00:38:34,719 --> 00:38:39,040
Speaker 7: able to do that, we can't gloss over it. They

738
00:38:39,080 --> 00:38:43,480
Speaker 7: have arguably the best pass rusher in the football. You

739
00:38:43,520 --> 00:38:47,200
Speaker 7: can say, you can say Michael, say Miles, however you

740
00:38:47,239 --> 00:38:48,920
Speaker 7: want to put it there in the conversation of the

741
00:38:48,960 --> 00:38:53,239
Speaker 7: two that matters. When he's going crazy, other guys get opportunities.

742
00:38:53,280 --> 00:38:55,480
Speaker 8: On top of that, it was the left tackle that

743
00:38:55,480 --> 00:38:55,919
Speaker 8: got beat.

744
00:38:56,000 --> 00:38:58,040
Speaker 7: Yeah, on top of that, you know, when you look

745
00:38:58,080 --> 00:39:00,880
Speaker 7: at Cleveland, they had to go some man sometimes how

746
00:39:00,920 --> 00:39:02,800
Speaker 7: they was able to bring the pressure to get to

747
00:39:03,800 --> 00:39:06,680
Speaker 7: Jordan Love. So those are things that we're saying like

748
00:39:07,719 --> 00:39:09,880
Speaker 7: it's there, But we said that the last two weeks,

749
00:39:09,920 --> 00:39:12,959
Speaker 7: like leading up to this particular game against Green Bay,

750
00:39:13,440 --> 00:39:17,080
Speaker 7: the Cowboys defensive front had went up against probably one

751
00:39:17,080 --> 00:39:20,040
Speaker 7: of the worst offensive line in the Giants and then

752
00:39:20,440 --> 00:39:23,920
Speaker 7: there was some holes in that Bears offensive line that

753
00:39:24,000 --> 00:39:27,479
Speaker 7: other teams exploited, not even bringing the house or bringing

754
00:39:27,520 --> 00:39:29,759
Speaker 7: extra pressure, just one on one whooping up on them.

755
00:39:30,080 --> 00:39:32,200
Speaker 7: And we didn't give up. We didn't get there. The

756
00:39:32,600 --> 00:39:35,040
Speaker 7: one guy who we should have been attacking. He didn't

757
00:39:35,040 --> 00:39:38,920
Speaker 7: give up one pressure that was left and and the

758
00:39:39,000 --> 00:39:41,400
Speaker 7: quarterback didn't get sacked for the first time in his career.

759
00:39:41,920 --> 00:39:46,600
Speaker 10: Well, well, the clowny is not you know, Miles Garrett level.

760
00:39:46,600 --> 00:39:49,319
Speaker 10: But having him there and not knowing how they might

761
00:39:49,400 --> 00:39:51,359
Speaker 10: use him, is that any kind of advantage.

762
00:39:52,000 --> 00:39:54,560
Speaker 2: No, because you have to come out and be an impact.

763
00:39:56,080 --> 00:40:00,040
Speaker 2: You know, when you when a guy has missed a

764
00:40:00,200 --> 00:40:04,560
Speaker 2: lot of time, whether it's two months or whether it's

765
00:40:04,600 --> 00:40:08,720
Speaker 2: seventeen months from an injury, you don't know what type

766
00:40:08,760 --> 00:40:13,200
Speaker 2: of shape he's in. He can been boxing four rounds

767
00:40:13,239 --> 00:40:16,520
Speaker 2: a day at the gym. It's different being on that

768
00:40:16,560 --> 00:40:20,960
Speaker 2: football field. And so until we know what clown he is,

769
00:40:21,160 --> 00:40:23,719
Speaker 2: until we know exactly how they can use it, you

770
00:40:23,880 --> 00:40:28,040
Speaker 2: hoping that he can come and when he rushed, I

771
00:40:28,040 --> 00:40:31,440
Speaker 2: hope he has no responsibilities that can free him a

772
00:40:31,440 --> 00:40:32,160
Speaker 2: little bit better.

773
00:40:32,239 --> 00:40:33,520
Speaker 8: But now if he got to say that.

774
00:40:33,640 --> 00:40:35,759
Speaker 2: Hey man, we want you to get two hands in

775
00:40:35,760 --> 00:40:37,879
Speaker 2: the middle of the guy before you start your move,

776
00:40:38,200 --> 00:40:40,120
Speaker 2: well he's gonna beat you like the rest of the guys.

777
00:40:40,280 --> 00:40:42,840
Speaker 2: Because tackles in this league they praying that you just

778
00:40:42,880 --> 00:40:45,000
Speaker 2: get him one second to get both their hands on you.

779
00:40:45,680 --> 00:40:48,399
Speaker 2: So if he working a half man and being able

780
00:40:48,400 --> 00:40:53,000
Speaker 2: to go inside and outside, yeah, if he's only rushing

781
00:40:53,040 --> 00:40:55,440
Speaker 2: the past, but if he's getting in there and they

782
00:40:55,560 --> 00:40:56,280
Speaker 2: run at him.

783
00:40:56,120 --> 00:41:00,600
Speaker 8: And he got a bar down and then go game over.

784
00:41:00,719 --> 00:41:02,480
Speaker 10: You guys been talking about how our guys are just

785
00:41:02,560 --> 00:41:05,799
Speaker 10: going right at their chest. Is that a scheme thing?

786
00:41:05,880 --> 00:41:06,400
Speaker 1: In anyway?

787
00:41:06,920 --> 00:41:10,239
Speaker 2: I thought it was the first game. I really thought

788
00:41:10,239 --> 00:41:13,120
Speaker 2: it was. But I just couldn't see doing that. Russell

789
00:41:13,160 --> 00:41:16,759
Speaker 2: Wilson just making sure you just stay in the lane,

790
00:41:17,040 --> 00:41:17,239
Speaker 2: you know.

791
00:41:17,520 --> 00:41:20,799
Speaker 7: I just I don't think I think they lack I

792
00:41:20,800 --> 00:41:25,040
Speaker 7: think they lack moves. They don't have guys who are

793
00:41:25,120 --> 00:41:28,680
Speaker 7: confident in the moves that they have. You know, they

794
00:41:28,800 --> 00:41:30,239
Speaker 7: run in the middle of the guys, or they try

795
00:41:30,239 --> 00:41:32,200
Speaker 7: to get guys and then late try to rip underneath

796
00:41:32,200 --> 00:41:36,080
Speaker 7: and all that. By that time once once, once that

797
00:41:36,160 --> 00:41:38,760
Speaker 7: once you get inside close to that tackle.

798
00:41:39,480 --> 00:41:40,160
Speaker 1: Because so.

799
00:41:42,320 --> 00:41:45,400
Speaker 7: If you're not, if I'm a tackle and I shouldn't

800
00:41:45,400 --> 00:41:47,480
Speaker 7: probably be talking about offensive line, yeah go ahead and

801
00:41:47,760 --> 00:41:51,120
Speaker 7: you're good. But if you're a tackle and I know

802
00:41:51,239 --> 00:41:57,479
Speaker 7: that this guy that I'm facing is fast speed and

803
00:41:57,680 --> 00:41:59,600
Speaker 7: I broke, I have a second on my other show,

804
00:41:59,640 --> 00:42:03,280
Speaker 7: deals called It's called kbbus, No No Ball, Better University,

805
00:42:03,920 --> 00:42:07,759
Speaker 7: And I'm breaking down how the front of the Green

806
00:42:07,800 --> 00:42:11,560
Speaker 7: Bay Packers, how they run this front where they are

807
00:42:11,600 --> 00:42:13,520
Speaker 7: dictating who gets still one on one, not you.

808
00:42:14,400 --> 00:42:15,759
Speaker 8: They are, yes, they are.

809
00:42:16,160 --> 00:42:21,040
Speaker 7: They're dictating it, especially if you know on third downs

810
00:42:21,560 --> 00:42:23,920
Speaker 7: and it's passing downs, they're dictating who gets still on

811
00:42:23,920 --> 00:42:24,239
Speaker 7: on one.

812
00:42:24,920 --> 00:42:25,799
Speaker 1: And so they did it.

813
00:42:25,840 --> 00:42:29,120
Speaker 7: And one of Micah's and uh, one of Micah's half sacks.

814
00:42:30,760 --> 00:42:34,080
Speaker 7: People are so worried about his speed. And I show

815
00:42:34,120 --> 00:42:37,879
Speaker 7: on the clip where he's going up and under. When

816
00:42:37,920 --> 00:42:41,319
Speaker 7: he gets up the field, his foot is planted in

817
00:42:41,400 --> 00:42:44,879
Speaker 7: the ground ready for the under move, and you see

818
00:42:44,920 --> 00:42:47,960
Speaker 7: the left tackle's foot still in the air. So just

819
00:42:48,120 --> 00:42:52,399
Speaker 7: you think about that, I'm already planted shifting my weight

820
00:42:52,440 --> 00:42:56,080
Speaker 7: for the under and your outside foot hasn't touched the

821
00:42:56,080 --> 00:42:56,720
Speaker 7: ground yet.

822
00:42:57,239 --> 00:42:58,400
Speaker 1: So by the time your.

823
00:42:58,320 --> 00:43:01,799
Speaker 7: Foot touched the ground and you react, I'm already half

824
00:43:01,800 --> 00:43:06,840
Speaker 7: a body around you with momentum and speed even in leaving.

825
00:43:07,160 --> 00:43:11,239
Speaker 7: And you know what happened on that particular play. Not

826
00:43:11,440 --> 00:43:14,600
Speaker 7: only did Micah get the sack, he also got the

827
00:43:14,640 --> 00:43:17,960
Speaker 7: flag for holding because he beat him so bad, so

828
00:43:18,440 --> 00:43:22,160
Speaker 7: if a tackle doesn't have to think about you whooping

829
00:43:22,200 --> 00:43:24,799
Speaker 7: him on the outside with speed, then I just set

830
00:43:24,840 --> 00:43:27,239
Speaker 7: and wait for you. That's a difference when I made

831
00:43:27,239 --> 00:43:29,320
Speaker 7: when you're when you're able to give a tackle, some

832
00:43:29,320 --> 00:43:32,000
Speaker 7: some thinking, oh man, he gonna beat me around the corner.

833
00:43:32,360 --> 00:43:34,160
Speaker 7: Now he got to shoot out there to get there.

834
00:43:34,400 --> 00:43:36,680
Speaker 7: What to leave the inside susceptible. So whether I want

835
00:43:36,680 --> 00:43:39,319
Speaker 7: to spin back like Dwight Freeni, or whether I want

836
00:43:39,320 --> 00:43:41,919
Speaker 7: to up and under, you know, or you know, whether

837
00:43:42,000 --> 00:43:44,319
Speaker 7: I want to go hard inside, you go and and I.

838
00:43:44,320 --> 00:43:47,239
Speaker 1: Readgie White, hump you because I got you. I got

839
00:43:47,320 --> 00:43:47,719
Speaker 1: you leaning.

840
00:43:47,719 --> 00:43:50,320
Speaker 7: The hump only work when I get you leaning because

841
00:43:50,320 --> 00:43:53,160
Speaker 7: you were so threatened by that. We don't have a

842
00:43:53,239 --> 00:43:56,840
Speaker 7: guy that's on our defensive line that threatens a tackle.

843
00:43:57,239 --> 00:44:00,479
Speaker 7: No tackle is like Sam Williams. He's so he gonna

844
00:44:00,480 --> 00:44:02,560
Speaker 7: beat me around the edge. So now he's just he's

845
00:44:02,560 --> 00:44:05,120
Speaker 7: just setting. He just he doing his normal kicks, and

846
00:44:05,160 --> 00:44:08,920
Speaker 7: he's waiting for you. And all you have is what

847
00:44:09,080 --> 00:44:13,080
Speaker 7: you have. Alaraku Fouler. None of the guys bring that

848
00:44:13,320 --> 00:44:16,800
Speaker 7: level of of.

849
00:44:16,760 --> 00:44:18,120
Speaker 1: Speed to him.

850
00:44:18,200 --> 00:44:20,760
Speaker 7: And and and then where it works, where it works

851
00:44:20,760 --> 00:44:22,200
Speaker 7: well for you to go down the middle of a

852
00:44:22,239 --> 00:44:25,399
Speaker 7: guy again is if he know, if he thinks I'm

853
00:44:25,440 --> 00:44:29,320
Speaker 7: coming off quick, and he goes to soup, so squiping outside.

854
00:44:30,600 --> 00:44:32,319
Speaker 1: Boom, Now I can walk down. Now I can walk

855
00:44:32,360 --> 00:44:34,560
Speaker 1: him back to the quarterback because he's off balance and

856
00:44:34,600 --> 00:44:35,000
Speaker 1: I got him.

857
00:44:35,000 --> 00:44:37,040
Speaker 7: I'm in his chest. He can't, he can't anchor down.

858
00:44:37,120 --> 00:44:39,000
Speaker 7: He's now, he's just trying to keep his feet go

859
00:44:39,239 --> 00:44:39,400
Speaker 7: so he.

860
00:44:39,400 --> 00:44:41,279
Speaker 1: Don't fall over. We don't.

861
00:44:41,560 --> 00:44:45,440
Speaker 7: We don't have anybody that presents that level of pressure

862
00:44:46,080 --> 00:44:48,160
Speaker 7: to the opposing teams left or right tackle.

863
00:44:48,280 --> 00:44:53,600
Speaker 8: And then you look at the kid for Cleveland, Miles Garrett. Garrett.

864
00:44:54,280 --> 00:44:58,840
Speaker 2: He crunches hisself like a leopard. He on all fours

865
00:44:59,320 --> 00:45:03,200
Speaker 2: and he can run, block, run, defend, all rush the

866
00:45:03,280 --> 00:45:06,560
Speaker 2: past and he's down, crunched. He'll do it from tight

867
00:45:06,680 --> 00:45:09,239
Speaker 2: five all the way out to a wide nine and

868
00:45:09,360 --> 00:45:12,440
Speaker 2: each time he's crushed. So it's no red. It's like

869
00:45:12,480 --> 00:45:16,480
Speaker 2: a great picture. There's no red. Only thing you see

870
00:45:16,560 --> 00:45:20,080
Speaker 2: is something springing at you. I'm serious, that's ugly.

871
00:45:20,120 --> 00:45:23,200
Speaker 8: Man. When you see a man at six seven, I'm.

872
00:45:22,840 --> 00:45:25,080
Speaker 2: Six foot two, bro, So I see a man a

873
00:45:25,200 --> 00:45:28,319
Speaker 2: six seven springing out at me, and he already got

874
00:45:28,320 --> 00:45:31,359
Speaker 2: an arm on my shoulder and my I got that's

875
00:45:31,360 --> 00:45:32,640
Speaker 2: probably I want to dragon.

876
00:45:32,640 --> 00:45:33,279
Speaker 8: I had short on.

877
00:45:34,000 --> 00:45:38,520
Speaker 2: Come on, man, and when you go look at the

878
00:45:38,520 --> 00:45:45,680
Speaker 2: film at Parsons, he is so scary to the quick.

879
00:45:45,880 --> 00:45:47,359
Speaker 2: This is when I know a guy on gave him

880
00:45:47,360 --> 00:45:50,239
Speaker 2: a sack. As soon as I see his butt turned

881
00:45:50,280 --> 00:45:51,239
Speaker 2: to the sideline.

882
00:45:52,239 --> 00:45:52,920
Speaker 8: If I can.

883
00:45:52,800 --> 00:45:57,960
Speaker 2: Stay between my quarterback and Parsons, I'm good. That means

884
00:45:58,000 --> 00:46:02,239
Speaker 2: my butt is pointed towards the quarterback, right outside the quarterback.

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00:46:02,680 --> 00:46:05,359
Speaker 2: But as soon as I turn this way, that means

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00:46:05,360 --> 00:46:08,080
Speaker 2: Parsons is going right there. That mean Miles Garrett is

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00:46:08,120 --> 00:46:10,480
Speaker 2: going right there. Because my butt is turned. I have

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00:46:10,600 --> 00:46:13,000
Speaker 2: no surface. I have no surface.

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Speaker 8: Look at it. Watch the game.

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00:46:15,360 --> 00:46:17,680
Speaker 2: If somebody give up a sat nine times out of

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00:46:17,680 --> 00:46:20,360
Speaker 2: seen it, if they bust the game with two guys,

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Speaker 2: somebody gonna be.

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00:46:21,120 --> 00:46:25,560
Speaker 8: Turned like this sideways every time because there's no surface.

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Speaker 3: Good stuff today, fellows.

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Speaker 5: Can't wait for tomorrow because we got the absolutely nothing

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00:46:32,960 --> 00:46:34,000
Speaker 5: on the run sheet today.

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00:46:34,040 --> 00:46:36,080
Speaker 3: But it was worth it. It was worth it.

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Speaker 5: Very rarely do we get a full segment of Nate,

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Speaker 5: a full segment of Jesse and Me and Kurt get

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Speaker 5: to talk somewhere in between.

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Speaker 3: Man, This is a good show. Tune in tomorrow game predictions.

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Speaker 5: I don't You're probably not gonna like it based off

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Speaker 5: today's conversation, but tune in anyway.

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Speaker 3: Maybe the count calls. I got some special uh by

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Speaker 3: a quarter of a point this week, Chris, thanks for

906
00:46:58,160 --> 00:46:59,040
Speaker 3: keeping us on the record.

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Speaker 8: We will be set.

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00:47:00,080 --> 00:47:02,920
Speaker 3: She's not back there today. We will be back tomorrow,

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00:47:03,160 --> 00:47:04,799
Speaker 3: same time, same place.

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Speaker 1: Were we out.

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