Speaker 1: Hi, I'm Kristin Davis, and I want to know are
Speaker 1: you a Charlotte? Today we have a very special guest
Speaker 1: everybody on Are You a Charlotte? We have the incredible
Speaker 1: Cain Peterson. You may remember him from a very very
Speaker 1: fun episode in the middle of season three called Hot
Speaker 1: Child in the City. He plays the comic book store
Speaker 1: owner that Carrie ends updating, and there's pot involved and
Speaker 1: all kinds of fun things. Cain is a great guy.
Speaker 1: He's super interesting. He is a radio personality, an actor
Speaker 1: and a podcaster, and this is one of his biggest
Speaker 1: acting jobs. So it's really really fun to hear his
Speaker 1: take on the whole experience. He has a lot of memories.
Speaker 1: Please join me and listen to my conversation with the
Speaker 1: fantastic Kane Peterson.
Speaker 2: Hi, Hi, how are you?
Speaker 3: I'm good? How are you wow? Your sound is read
Speaker 3: a book?
Speaker 2: Is that good?
Speaker 3: Knew it would be.
Speaker 4: I use it as I have a podcast and I
Speaker 4: record my radio show out of here too, so it
Speaker 4: has to go.
Speaker 3: I saw.
Speaker 1: I'm so fascinated. I need to hear your whole story.
Speaker 2: I'll give it to you. I'll try not to bore you,
Speaker 2: but you know.
Speaker 3: You're not gonna bore me. Tell me everything.
Speaker 1: Go back, go back, go back in time. Okay too
Speaker 1: when you were on Sex and the City. Okay, because
Speaker 1: you're great.
Speaker 4: Really, because I just want thank you so much for
Speaker 4: saying that. I just watched it again, maybe like an
Speaker 4: hour ago, uh huh, And because I really i've probably
Speaker 4: seen it, like I sat down with the family the
Speaker 4: first time it premiered, and it was a big to
Speaker 4: do right. It was fantastic, and I was so critical
Speaker 4: that I couldn't really enjoy it, you know what I mean?
Speaker 4: Like I did, and so I would just see it
Speaker 4: in bits and pieces here and there. I'd watch part
Speaker 4: of it and go like, ah, I could have read that.
Speaker 2: Better, I could have done that better. And then I
Speaker 2: get embarrassed. I shut it off.
Speaker 4: And then I watched it this last time, now an
Speaker 4: hour ago, and I gave myself some grace. It was
Speaker 4: was a fantastic episode. And not just me though, but
Speaker 4: like the entire episode, every storyline was hilarious. I agree,
Speaker 4: you're Rebecca and schooing her, and I mean that whole
Speaker 4: thing was fantastic.
Speaker 3: I agree, I agree.
Speaker 1: I love that episode and I hadn't really remembered it
Speaker 1: that well, because it's kind of a bit of a
Speaker 1: departure from our norm in a really interesting way. And
Speaker 1: I don't ever think I met you, which I think
Speaker 1: because we just didn't work together.
Speaker 4: Right, No, Yeah, we didn't have any lines together, and
Speaker 4: I was hoping that I would get the chance. But
Speaker 4: there was one day where I thought I might because
Speaker 4: this is how great Sarah Jessica was and I'm probably
Speaker 4: gonna go all over the place here, but cool, I
Speaker 4: thought I would meet you here. She had found out
Speaker 4: I didn't tell her, but she had found out that
Speaker 4: it was my birthday.
Speaker 2: And so we're at Silver Cuff.
Speaker 4: Studios right right, and I get it's a lunch and
Speaker 4: I felt just like I was in junior high again,
Speaker 4: to never sit with the cool kids.
Speaker 2: I didn't know anybody. I didn't know where to.
Speaker 4: Go in all of a sudden, Yeah, all of a sudden,
Speaker 4: I hear, hey, Kane, and it was Sarah Jessica call
Speaker 4: me over to the table, and she had got me
Speaker 4: a birthday cake.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah.
Speaker 4: And there were so many people there, like crew and stuff,
Speaker 4: and it was it was fantastic.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's how you met her in the audition process.
Speaker 3: What was that like?
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: The first time I went in because I was always
Speaker 4: I was in VH one at the time, and I'm
Speaker 4: a radio guy at heart. And my agent called me
Speaker 4: one day and he goes, hey, do you want to
Speaker 4: go audition for Sex in the City. I'm like, what's that?
Speaker 4: You know, I'm a cool guy on Howard Stearn's rock
Speaker 4: radio station. You know, I don't know what that is
Speaker 4: my shirt?
Speaker 1: I'll go.
Speaker 4: And I auditioned, and you know, I just wore what
Speaker 4: I usually wear and didn't really give it much thought,
Speaker 4: and and my boss calls her. My agent calls me
Speaker 4: A couple days later, he goes, yeah, you got a
Speaker 4: call back. I'm like, oh, what does that mean? Because
Speaker 4: they want you to go read again. They want you
Speaker 4: to read with Sarah. I'm like, oh, all right, cool.
Speaker 4: So I show up then for that second audition, and
Speaker 4: I'm sitting in the lobby.
Speaker 2: You've probably had these experiences, maybe.
Speaker 4: Like way back, you know, Oh, yes, sitting there and
Speaker 4: you're looking at everybody. I recognize people who are in
Speaker 4: this audition. I'd never done this before. I'm sitting here
Speaker 4: going I'm never going to get this. There's a kid
Speaker 4: from Kids in the hall on one chair. Wow, there's
Speaker 4: Adam Goldberg, you know, the crazy roommate from Friends, Chandler's roommate.
Speaker 2: He's there. I'm like, these are people that I know,
Speaker 2: who what am I doing here?
Speaker 4: Almost got up and left, and I went in and
Speaker 4: I auditioned whether and there's a room full of people,
Speaker 4: and I'm too stupid to be nervous, too ignorant to
Speaker 4: be nervous.
Speaker 3: Fantastic, You're right, I know.
Speaker 4: That's thank god. And we had some laughs and they
Speaker 4: laughed and clapped whatever. I left, and I get the call,
Speaker 4: It's like, yeah, you got it. And then talking to
Speaker 4: Sarah later, like during the filming, she said, by the way,
Speaker 4: we kind of knew you had it once you walked
Speaker 4: in the room before you even auditioned. They're like, Daddy,
Speaker 4: that's him. I guess you have see I didn't know
Speaker 4: how acting works. I'm like, apparently you guys have in
Speaker 4: your head already what the character looks like, and so
Speaker 4: what I brought to it. I guess she you would
Speaker 4: have really had to be super bad to.
Speaker 2: Not get that kid.
Speaker 3: But I do think I do think it's a weird thing.
Speaker 1: I think it's partly because you also weren't nervous, right,
Speaker 1: because sometimes I think people can really fit all of
Speaker 1: the parameters but then are so shut down, which I've
Speaker 1: definitely gone through myself, right, Like the nerves just shut
Speaker 1: you fully down, right, And that obviously doesn't help people
Speaker 1: feel like you like your vibe, but you were just
Speaker 1: so perfectly cast. You're just so great in it.
Speaker 2: Thank you.
Speaker 3: It's so good and you and she have such great chemistry.
Speaker 3: It was exciting.
Speaker 4: It was so great. I mean, like, thank you so
Speaker 4: much for saying that, because it's really it was. It
Speaker 4: was a highlight of my life. I remember being on
Speaker 4: the on set. I had a trailer with my name
Speaker 4: on it, like, oh my god, this so weird.
Speaker 3: Nice.
Speaker 1: Nice.
Speaker 4: We filmed over my birthday, July nineteenth of two thousand. Yeah,
Speaker 4: And I'm in the trailer and I call mom. You know,
Speaker 4: I go, Mom, I never guess, like the first time
Speaker 4: you got a cell phone in your car?
Speaker 2: Yes, where I am?
Speaker 4: I'm in my car, I was, I'm in a trailer
Speaker 4: with my name on it. I'm like, I told my mom.
Speaker 4: So I'm like, this is probably the apex. It's not
Speaker 4: going to get any better than this. There was a
Speaker 4: great moment we had in the phone, and not in
Speaker 4: a bad way. It was just like you know, and
Speaker 4: it turns out that was absolute highlight of my career.
Speaker 3: I'm so glad.
Speaker 1: I mean, this is why we wanted to talk to you,
Speaker 1: because you're You're a very unique, you know, character in
Speaker 1: our whole scheme of things. And that was one of
Speaker 1: the fun things about the show is that there weren't
Speaker 1: that many shows filming at the time in New York.
Speaker 1: There was like Law and Order, you know, so very cop,
Speaker 1: cop cop, and then us very different. And once we
Speaker 1: really got going and kind of found our vibe, our role,
Speaker 1: our niche, we really got to kind of pick and
Speaker 1: choose who we wanted to some extent, and You're just
Speaker 1: so perfect.
Speaker 3: And then I was like, where is that King guy?
Speaker 1: We got to talk to him, and you have this
Speaker 1: whole whole world that you have have created since then.
Speaker 3: It's super interesting.
Speaker 4: It wasn't really a stretch role wise for me. I mean,
Speaker 4: that was pretty much who I am. I'm kind of
Speaker 4: a goober. But can I ask you a question about
Speaker 4: the episode itself, because you mentioned it earlier you said, like,
Speaker 4: the episode was it's so very different from a lot
Speaker 4: of the other ones, and I looked it up. I
Speaker 4: remember his name was Alan, but the guy who wrote
Speaker 4: it was Alan Heinberg.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and so many people who have come up to
Speaker 2: me and told me.
Speaker 4: A lot of people say it's their favorite episode, and
Speaker 4: a lot of people also say it's so much different
Speaker 4: than all the other episodes. And I never really explained it,
Speaker 4: but in my head, and what other people have told
Speaker 4: me is because like Alan wrote this one episode and
Speaker 4: then didn't write any others. And I don't know why
Speaker 4: he never wrote any others, but it was that what
Speaker 4: you attributed.
Speaker 1: To is like, yes, you're absolutely correct. So Alan is
Speaker 1: a great guy. He is super into comic books and whatnot.
Speaker 1: He's gone on to run shows that are based on
Speaker 1: kind of comic novellas. I don't even know how I
Speaker 1: should be describing them. But he's had quite quite a
Speaker 1: career in his niche right, And I don't know how
Speaker 1: he came I should find Alan and ask him. I
Speaker 1: don't know how he came on to our show, but
Speaker 1: sometimes our writer's room, Michael Patrick King, our executive producer,
Speaker 1: would kind of just want another voice in right, because
Speaker 1: mostly we had women, and then we had Darren Starr
Speaker 1: and Michael Patrick Darren had created the show.
Speaker 3: Michael was our showrunner, and he would think, you know.
Speaker 1: What, we need a straight guy's voice, or we need
Speaker 1: another guy's boss, or you know whatever. So he would
Speaker 1: bring different people in and they might only write one.
Speaker 1: Maybe they spent some time in the writer's room, just
Speaker 1: like you know, talking about ideas, right, but they would
Speaker 1: be assigned one. And this was his baby, where he
Speaker 1: got to just create what he wanted to create. And
Speaker 1: what I do remember about the episode, which is so trivial,
Speaker 1: but the summer before we had been filming in New
Speaker 1: York and it was one of those crazy hot summers.
Speaker 1: You know some summers are just like really hot and
Speaker 1: the whole city smells bad.
Speaker 3: And exactly the summer before had in that.
Speaker 1: And so this episode called the Hot Child in the
Speaker 1: City where you guys spray each other with the hose
Speaker 1: on your mom's balcony, which is all so hysterical.
Speaker 3: It was supposed to be really hot based on.
Speaker 1: Last summer, but it wasn't. That's what I remember about it.
Speaker 4: Oh really, it was hot enough to where I wasn't
Speaker 4: like bitching, am I getting wet?
Speaker 3: Right? Right? Right? Right?
Speaker 1: But it wasn't like the year before where we were
Speaker 1: just sweating, you know, just like just so uncomfortable. But
Speaker 1: I loved the episode because it is so different, and
Speaker 1: I love it right from the get go, when she
Speaker 1: goes she's going to try to find her dry cleaning,
Speaker 1: and like you have those moments where you go to
Speaker 1: somewhere in New York and it's gone.
Speaker 3: You're like, wait, wait, where's the place that I used
Speaker 3: to be? Right here?
Speaker 1: And in its place is your character's comic store, which
Speaker 1: is so adorable.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean.
Speaker 3: Did you love all that? Would you think?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 4: I mean, you know, here's what's funny about it is,
Speaker 4: I'm looking at it now and I'm remember you know
Speaker 4: how when you watch yourself in something and you can remember,
Speaker 4: it's hard to actually watch it for what it is
Speaker 4: because as you're watching it, you're thinking about what was
Speaker 4: going on that day or I remember filming that right, yes,
Speaker 4: And so I'm watching that now. I've been so far removed,
Speaker 4: So I'm watching it going like, God, why wasn't I
Speaker 4: Why wasn't I more nervous?
Speaker 2: I remember?
Speaker 4: Not even like I feel like I didn't appreciate it.
Speaker 4: I feel like I didn't soak it in because it
Speaker 4: was just so everyone's telling you what to do and
Speaker 4: it's new, and I go, oh, I go here, Oh,
Speaker 4: I go there.
Speaker 2: Like it was so.
Speaker 4: I don't know, just mechanical that that I really didn't
Speaker 4: appreciate it. Now watching it back now, I'm like, okay,
Speaker 4: I kind of get what I was thinking at the time.
Speaker 4: And but that was the very first thing we ever shot.
Speaker 4: We just started with that scene, and.
Speaker 1: Well, it's perfect, You're perfect, You're amazing, Thank you. I
Speaker 1: do think though, as an actor, because you're trying to
Speaker 1: do so many different things right and there are so
Speaker 1: many people telling you what you need to do, and
Speaker 1: then you have your own interior life, it's very hard
Speaker 1: to actually soak it in also and do your job.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, I don't remember getting a whole lot
Speaker 4: of direction. I would read the line and you know,
Speaker 4: i'd mess something up or whatever. And of course she
Speaker 4: never messed anything up. It was always me.
Speaker 2: And I. You know, they would just say, oh, do
Speaker 2: it again.
Speaker 4: But maybe with there wasn't like I was so worried
Speaker 4: about I'm not going to be able to follow their instruction.
Speaker 4: It's going to be totally opposite of what I what's
Speaker 4: coming natural, But no, there was none of that, and
Speaker 4: it was it was the best direction anybody gave me.
Speaker 4: It was Sarah the bedroom scene, yeah, or she takes
Speaker 4: me home for the first time, and like, so we're
Speaker 4: on our knees on the bed and right before they
Speaker 4: yell action, she leans in and she goes, no tongue, and.
Speaker 2: I go, I wasn't gonna, you know, I was like,
Speaker 2: I've never done it before, but I was aware.
Speaker 4: I knew that I've probably shouldn't stick my tongue down
Speaker 4: her to and I wasn't going to.
Speaker 1: But that was I think that's good. I think that's good.
Speaker 1: And she was just trying to be professional and polite.
Speaker 3: Maybe I should tell him, Yeah, I mean, I think
Speaker 3: that's good. That's really good.
Speaker 1: I'm glad that they didn't overdirect you, because I do
Speaker 1: think that's part of what is so incredibly winning about
Speaker 1: your performances, that you seem like a regular guy, and
Speaker 1: it's really refreshing on our show.
Speaker 2: You know, Yeah, thank you. I took that. I got
Speaker 2: a lot of auditions after that.
Speaker 3: Did you what happened?
Speaker 1: What was it? Like?
Speaker 4: Well, I got the taste and now all of a sudden,
Speaker 4: I'm like, well, maybe maybe I do want to be
Speaker 4: an actor. So you know, William Morris, my agent at
Speaker 4: the time, was all hopped up on me.
Speaker 2: Now you know I got.
Speaker 4: I got an acting role the first time I ever
Speaker 4: tried out for one, which is heard unheard of.
Speaker 3: Absolutely, I'm sorry.
Speaker 4: I don't know how many actors I told that story too,
Speaker 4: and they just were so mad like that.
Speaker 2: That ain't how it works.
Speaker 4: But so I kept flying out to LA for pilot season,
Speaker 4: like you know, every year, and trying out for this
Speaker 4: and that, and you know, it's weird. You've probably gone
Speaker 4: I'm sure you've gone through this, things you've tried out
Speaker 4: for but maybe didn't get, And then you watch it.
Speaker 4: You see the movie and it comes to the scene
Speaker 4: that you read for, and that weird you Like I
Speaker 4: was watching it. I was watching a Kieran Culkin movie
Speaker 4: like this was like a few months ago, and all
Speaker 4: of a sudden there was a scene that was super familiar,
Speaker 4: and I'm like, because I saved all my scripts, I'm like, funny, Oh,
Speaker 4: I wouldn't I auditioned for it. It was just weird to
Speaker 4: hear those words I almost got remember will and Grace
Speaker 4: when yes, Grace's character date Woody Harrelson.
Speaker 2: Yes, that was mine.
Speaker 4: And then they were like, they were like, well, they
Speaker 4: called and said Woody Harrelson wants to do it.
Speaker 2: He said he would do it.
Speaker 4: Of course you got to go with Woody and they
Speaker 4: were afraid I was a bit too green still for
Speaker 4: an arc because it was multiple episodes, so that came.
Speaker 4: That was the closest I got to getting something else.
Speaker 4: And if I get that, who knows, maybe something else changes.
Speaker 4: I'm doing great now. I love radio, and I love
Speaker 4: all the stuff.
Speaker 2: That I'm doing.
Speaker 1: But I mean you're doing Will you have a podcast? Yeah,
Speaker 1: you're on the forefront of all the things that everybody
Speaker 1: is doing. You have a great voice, So I see,
Speaker 1: I see why all the things. But I'm sad they
Speaker 1: for us that you didn't work more because I think
Speaker 1: you're very interesting. You know, thank you on our side.
Speaker 1: But it's good that you get to do what you're
Speaker 1: doing and that you love it.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I got another another great Sarah because people always
Speaker 4: ask me is Sarah?
Speaker 2: How is Sarah?
Speaker 4: And so I think this is another great story that
Speaker 4: but the birthday story that talks speaks to about what
Speaker 4: a great person she is. So the first day that
Speaker 4: I show up. We're sitting in the makeup trailer and
Speaker 4: she's there, and she's already sitting there, and she was
Speaker 4: so friendly.
Speaker 2: First thing.
Speaker 4: One of the first things she said was like, wow,
Speaker 4: your arms, because I had I was working out a
Speaker 4: lot then, so right there, like sets me up for
Speaker 4: a great day, right, And we just start talking. We
Speaker 4: realize we have baseball and common and stuff, and yeah,
Speaker 4: she loves her Yankees and stuff. Probably still does. Right,
Speaker 4: of course, that's fandom. It was you're a fan, You're
Speaker 4: always a fan, totally. And I come back the next
Speaker 4: day and all of a sudden, she's rattling because she
Speaker 4: asked me what my favorite team was.
Speaker 2: I grew up in Minnesota, so I says, it's Minnesota Twins.
Speaker 4: So I sit down the next day and she's rattling
Speaker 4: off all these He goes, all, I see the Twins lost. Oh,
Speaker 4: but so and so had a great game. Oh and
Speaker 4: so and so pitched like four point seven and whatever
Speaker 4: it was. How do you know all my Twins players?
Speaker 4: She goes, I looked at the box score. I want
Speaker 4: her to be able to talk about it today. Wow,
Speaker 4: isn't that great?
Speaker 1: It's impressive because let me tell you, we were not
Speaker 1: talking to her about stuff like that. She could not
Speaker 1: get her her baseball facts into to our conversation.
Speaker 3: It was just been like whoosh, whoosh. So I do
Speaker 3: think I think the thing about Sarah.
Speaker 1: I mean, there's so many incredible things about her, and
Speaker 1: sometimes people are like, oh, you know, that's not real
Speaker 1: or rare.
Speaker 3: People are so cynical, you know.
Speaker 1: Now. I think they just think that everything's fake, right,
Speaker 1: and it's not. She's a good person. She was a
Speaker 1: good person before the show. She was a good person
Speaker 1: during the show. She's still a good person. She's a
Speaker 1: very professional person, you know, like she's been working since
Speaker 1: she was I think nine or something like this, and
Speaker 1: you know, yes, she knows her lines perfectly. It can
Speaker 1: be quite intimidating, right, Like I would always mess out
Speaker 1: mine and feel so bad because she had so many
Speaker 1: more than me, but I'm the one messing up, right.
Speaker 1: But on the other hand, it's a great example, like
Speaker 1: she's just so solid, you know, but she's also so
Speaker 1: kind of thoughtful and personable that she would think like, oh,
Speaker 1: he's coming on my show and he likes baseball.
Speaker 3: I'm going to read my StAst today. Like that's very hers.
Speaker 1: She's very thoughtful and it's lovely. And I feel sometimes
Speaker 1: like when people become really really really well known and
Speaker 1: they're on the cover of magazines and everything, they just
Speaker 1: seem bigger than life, like they're not really real.
Speaker 3: And I get that.
Speaker 1: I get that our culture kind of does that to them,
Speaker 1: you know, pop culture. But there's still a real person
Speaker 1: in there, you know, with feelings and thoughts, and they're
Speaker 1: thoughtful and they're complex, and they're all the things. And
Speaker 1: I'm so glad that.
Speaker 3: You had a great experience.
Speaker 1: I would have thought nothing less watching your chemistry, right
Speaker 1: Like when I watch you and her, she is so free,
Speaker 1: you know, like there's a freedom and a playfulness that
Speaker 1: you brought out in her. Oh cool, Yeah, it was
Speaker 1: really really I hadn't remembered all that watching And that's
Speaker 1: what's fun about rewatching right like.
Speaker 3: Much later, and I'm the same as you.
Speaker 1: Like when I rewatched myself, I'm like, oh, no, I
Speaker 1: was okay, I was okay, yeah, yeah, which is really
Speaker 1: nice because at the time I'm just like, oh, I
Speaker 1: don't like how I did that, yeah exactly, or I
Speaker 1: should have turned at this point or whatever, Like you
Speaker 1: can somehow redo it.
Speaker 3: Which obviously you can't.
Speaker 1: But yeah, now all these many years later, I can
Speaker 1: absolutely say, like that was really good. Oh my gosh,
Speaker 1: I didn't know. I was so happy.
Speaker 4: Yes, yeah, there was one scene where it was the
Speaker 4: we're walking through the arcade, Yeah, the barcode.
Speaker 2: You know, we're just code. Yeah, we got a beer.
Speaker 4: We're just you know, we're just shooting rerees and I'll
Speaker 4: talk whatever. And that was that was my favorite scene
Speaker 4: watching it because it was so.
Speaker 2: Natural.
Speaker 4: I was convinced watching that that, like, oh, yeah, these
Speaker 4: two are on a date and these two are these
Speaker 4: two are having a good time. And then I remember
Speaker 4: when we got in the ride at the end of
Speaker 4: that scene and it starts to close. I remember, I remember,
Speaker 4: look at it. That wasn't that wasn't in the script
Speaker 4: where I go, here we go and then she laughs
Speaker 4: and then she laughs. I just I don't know why
Speaker 4: I said that, but I was just in the mope, right,
Speaker 4: you know, I just love it. Yeah, I forgot I
Speaker 4: was acting. We're just hanging out. Here we go the ride.
Speaker 2: It's gonna be fun.
Speaker 4: So so that, you know, speaks to what you said
Speaker 4: about Yeah, just looking play and bringing out the playfulness
Speaker 4: and her.
Speaker 1: So the thing that I love about your character, and
Speaker 1: I assume also your actual just person. You're so now
Speaker 1: like that character, You've got the scooter. You're scooting through Barcode,
Speaker 1: which is like our whole world.
Speaker 3: Now, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: The comics, which then, like Marvel, wasn't even a thing,
Speaker 1: like it was a little culty thing or whatever. It
Speaker 1: wasn't the church, right, like the night this is two thousand.
Speaker 1: I think that we filmed this, yeah, two thousand. So
Speaker 1: it's you're very on the cusp of all of the
Speaker 1: things that came video.
Speaker 4: The games before you had to go to Barcoe, to
Speaker 4: the Arcade to play them.
Speaker 2: I would I would go to Barcode today. That place
Speaker 2: was awesome.
Speaker 3: I know it's still there.
Speaker 2: I think, is it No, I don't think it is.
Speaker 3: Is it not there? Okay, So this is not my area.
Speaker 1: You're in La, right, I'm in La But even when
Speaker 1: I'm in New York, I would not go to Times
Speaker 1: Square because it wasn't it like right in the middle
Speaker 1: of Times Square.
Speaker 4: Yeah, tourist, go to Times Square. I lived in Hell's
Speaker 4: Kitchen for ten years. I lived in Hell's Kitchen during
Speaker 4: the shooting of that and that's fine. You know that's
Speaker 4: the west side of Yeah, of course, I know. Clinton
Speaker 4: is what you're supposed to. It's what you a cab.
Speaker 4: They call it Clinton. I'm like, where why is that saying?
Speaker 3: I know, I do not like the new names. I
Speaker 3: do not. I do not. I find it very confusing.
Speaker 2: I don't know why is that offensive? Health kitchen? Why
Speaker 2: are we not allowed?
Speaker 3: But it's adorable.
Speaker 1: It's so evocative and like we have so many memories
Speaker 1: of you know, how it used to look, and now
Speaker 1: it's you know more, sheheshi. Of course, as is the
Speaker 1: entire city. Basically, I don't need to rename No.
Speaker 2: No, no. It was more dangerous than I remember.
Speaker 4: You couldn't go past ninth, you couldn't walk further, you
Speaker 4: couldn't walk west of ninth because it would get sketchy.
Speaker 2: Then eventually it was tenth. And now you can go
Speaker 2: all the way to the water and you don't.
Speaker 3: That is so true.
Speaker 1: I remember that too, because there are some weird little theaters,
Speaker 1: like smaller non Broadway theaters that are over there. But
Speaker 1: you had to kind of plan your ride because there
Speaker 1: was no uber, so you had to figure out, like, well,
Speaker 1: I've got to walk east because it's safer to get
Speaker 1: to the subway. Yeah, I remember all that.
Speaker 3: I remember that.
Speaker 1: It's funny to think back because the city's so different,
Speaker 1: but you know, what can you do?
Speaker 4: It was great watching the episode now I understood what
Speaker 4: everyone meant by like the city was an actual star
Speaker 4: of the show. Yeah, because having lived there all that
Speaker 4: time and now watching it, because when I shot it,
Speaker 4: I was living there. I didn't really appreciate what I'm
Speaker 4: looking at. But like every scene, like with the braces
Speaker 4: and they're just walking there eating ice cream in front
Speaker 4: of a park, and I'm like, oh, I'm looking at
Speaker 4: all these.
Speaker 2: Like look at that. That is our New York.
Speaker 4: What was the actual In my opinion, that was like
Speaker 4: the heyday of Donor.
Speaker 1: I agree, I agree, I mean in so many different ways.
Speaker 1: Like the year two thousand to me literally was the
Speaker 1: Heyday because two thousand and one, you know, in September,
Speaker 1: we know what happened, right, and everything changed. So I
Speaker 1: feel like two thousand and two thousand and one were
Speaker 1: like the glory, Like everything was in super bright colors.
Speaker 1: You know, it just seemed like things were popping and
Speaker 1: beautiful and fun and active, you know, and kind of
Speaker 1: like things hadn't been built up yet, but they were beautiful. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and now it's very built up. And I hate to
Speaker 1: complain about it because I still love it, but I
Speaker 1: do miss I do miss the old and the olden days.
Speaker 1: Was there any other thing, like do you remember where
Speaker 1: the hours really crazy?
Speaker 3: Were you like, oh this is weird or no?
Speaker 4: It was just all fun. There was nothing that I
Speaker 4: was ever complaining about. You know, I didn't care how
Speaker 4: many takes it took, because again, mostly my fault.
Speaker 2: And no one said she ever give me a scowl. No,
Speaker 2: don't worry about it. Oh, don't worry about it. I'm
Speaker 2: sure she was like that with all you guys.
Speaker 4: But like the barcode, we were there late, you know,
Speaker 4: that went into the wee hours, and man, I had
Speaker 4: that stupid scooter. Now they kind of cut it out,
Speaker 4: but I had to start. We started that scene with
Speaker 4: me on top of this giant escalator right, oh my god,
Speaker 4: that came out the door and they had it where
Speaker 4: right as the escalator, right as I'm about to get off,
Speaker 4: I had to pull the scooter out of the bag.
Speaker 2: And and like there.
Speaker 3: Was a weird guy.
Speaker 4: There was a way to like undo it coolly with
Speaker 4: just one fell swoop, like grab the handles and throw
Speaker 4: it up, and it's supposed to snap into place, and
Speaker 4: it wouldn't. I kept getting it wrong, and then I
Speaker 4: would get it right, but then screw something else up.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, because you're so focused on getting the scooter right.
Speaker 4: But then as soon as you get the scooter right
Speaker 4: and you step on it, you go, hush, Well, what
Speaker 4: am I supposed to say? Ah? You know, you got
Speaker 4: to go up again and back down again and all fun,
Speaker 4: all fun.
Speaker 1: I mean that sounds challenging. That sounds really challenging. I
Speaker 1: would not want to have to do that with the scooter. No,
Speaker 1: but you you seemed whatever they edited in or out,
Speaker 1: it seemed very adept at your scootering. Because I was
Speaker 1: surprised by the scooter. I don't really remember scooters back then. Obviously,
Speaker 1: Now they're you know everywhere, righted, yeh exactly, yeah, And
Speaker 1: that's what I mean.
Speaker 3: You were like so on the forefront.
Speaker 1: But it's so interesting and it's such a different carry
Speaker 1: that we see with you, like kind of a young
Speaker 1: you know, there's like a younger vibe, like almost like
Speaker 1: a high school vibe, which I kind of goes with
Speaker 1: your character too, because you're still living with your parents.
Speaker 1: It's so funny and also so now right, Yeah, you know.
Speaker 4: What I saidn't know. I didn't know that I'm working
Speaker 4: with a legend. She is, like was a legend in
Speaker 4: the business.
Speaker 3: Yes, Anita Gillette.
Speaker 1: We had a really fun time when we got to
Speaker 1: hire the legends like that were kind of like theatrical
Speaker 1: people everyone in the theater world knew and it was
Speaker 1: wonderful to be able to hire them. And that went
Speaker 1: on until we just finished the our I don't know
Speaker 1: what we're supposed to call it, continuation show. We had
Speaker 1: a couple of really incredible old timey theater actors on,
Speaker 1: which was really fun.
Speaker 4: Let me ask you when you saw that script, like
Speaker 4: you said, Carrie was like this difference, You got to
Speaker 4: be this different person. Do you feel like you got
Speaker 4: that too out of that episode because it was so different?
Speaker 3: What do I do in that episode? I can't remember.
Speaker 2: Oh you know you have the schooner and the Rebecca.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah I did.
Speaker 1: I mean Charlotte does a lot of funny things like that,
Speaker 1: like sometimes they have me tap dancing and like creat
Speaker 1: crazy things. Judy Bean but I feel like the thing
Speaker 1: that I liked about it was that it was just
Speaker 1: a enough different that it got your attention, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Like you were like, oh, this is fun,
Speaker 1: this is this is it's still my character right, Like
Speaker 1: it wasn't so far out, but it.
Speaker 3: Was different enough.
Speaker 1: And I remember Alan and I remember him being really
Speaker 1: fun to be around, and I.
Speaker 3: Don't really know.
Speaker 1: I feel like he we had a few writers where
Speaker 1: they then became a hot commodity themselves and got stolen away,
Speaker 1: you know, basically to do their own show, and I
Speaker 1: do think that's what happened with Alan Heinberg. And I
Speaker 1: have to find out because I know he's like a
Speaker 1: big show runner now.
Speaker 4: You know, Oh is he really yeah? Wow, we hit
Speaker 4: it off. I should call him see what's going.
Speaker 1: Totally totally. He's a great guy. I haven't seen him
Speaker 1: in years.
Speaker 3: Though.
Speaker 1: I was thinking after after I talk to you, because
Speaker 1: you were my big person, where I was like, I
Speaker 1: need to talk to that guy Kane, because he's super
Speaker 1: interesting and it's fun to It's fun to talk to
Speaker 1: the guys because I love to hear people's experience. Because
Speaker 1: I wasn't I didn't get to interact with you. You know,
Speaker 1: it's fun to hear. Yeah, your take on it all.
Speaker 2: What's great about that episode?
Speaker 4: Like, well, the show itself is every year Well Publication
Speaker 4: will write a new article about the show and rank
Speaker 4: the episodes or rank the boyfriends, and everyone always sends
Speaker 4: that stuff to me, and I like the boyfriend the
Speaker 4: latest boyfriend rank, I did pretty good. I was above
Speaker 4: John bon Jovie. So I was like, okay, I know.
Speaker 4: But then then you see these threads. I stumbled upon
Speaker 4: this thread that was like like somebody said I was ugly.
Speaker 4: I'm like, oh, well, you know, I mean, I wasn't
Speaker 4: the hottest boyfriend she had.
Speaker 2: I get that, I understand it. But that's what people are.
Speaker 2: That's how the internet is.
Speaker 4: I'm like, you don't want to if you don't want
Speaker 4: to see it, don't look totally totally totally.
Speaker 3: That's fun that you can see it. What happened?
Speaker 1: Like so, so, acting wise, you were the hot commodity
Speaker 1: and you were flying to LA. Were people recognizing you
Speaker 1: on the street?
Speaker 3: Was he talking to you? Was it positive?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 4: Always positive? You know God, I mean, because that was
Speaker 4: such a huge show and you're right in the throes
Speaker 4: of it. In season three, you know, and so that
Speaker 4: was Hey, I got into uh a lot of clubs
Speaker 4: because of that show, a lot of lines because.
Speaker 2: Of that show.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, Wow, you had a pretty good boyfriend where
Speaker 1: you didn't have to do anything too horribly embarrassing.
Speaker 3: Do you know what I'm saying, Like you weren't the
Speaker 3: funky spunk boyfriend or do you know what I mean?
Speaker 3: Like you had it pretty good?
Speaker 2: You know, Yeah, it was pretty normal.
Speaker 4: The only thing I had to do and they cut
Speaker 4: it out was like because I told people, like, well,
Speaker 4: there's more to that scene and dead that I had
Speaker 4: with her, but they didn't air it.
Speaker 2: I guess it maybe didn't look real.
Speaker 4: I don't know, but no, she was like we were
Speaker 4: rolled on top of each other and I forget what
Speaker 4: the dialogue was. I don't think there maybe was any
Speaker 4: but like you know, rolling over after the phone call
Speaker 4: and stuff, and I'm like, uh, they took it out,
Speaker 4: but whatever, that's how TV works. Things get edited something
Speaker 4: to stay in. But yeah, I know, nothing was really Yeah,
Speaker 4: it was pretty good. It was really good. Yeah, in
Speaker 4: that in that episode where he had to like his
Speaker 4: pants were down but he's pretending to master baby embarrassed.
Speaker 3: I don't, oh, I know, it was a lot. It
Speaker 3: was a lot. He was very brave. He was very
Speaker 3: very brave. It did bring out the craziness of the
Speaker 3: crew that day though.
Speaker 2: That was what happened.
Speaker 1: I can't even tell you everything that happened, but you know,
Speaker 1: we were these crazy hours right also, so like no
Speaker 1: one slept and then you're doing like crazy scenes like
Speaker 1: that with a Jugs magazine, you know, with my face like,
Speaker 1: oh my god, it's so embarrassing. So I was like
Speaker 1: kind of uh, anxious, anxious about it all, and I
Speaker 1: think Kyle was just trying to, you know, get through
Speaker 1: it right. And like all the prop guys and the
Speaker 1: camera crew and everything were in there with them, and
Speaker 1: then I had to open the door and they had
Speaker 1: put all these sex toys and stuff like just things
Speaker 1: to shock me. And they thought it was going to
Speaker 1: help me, but it made me so mad. I was like, Kyle,
Speaker 1: why did you let them? He's like, I don't, I
Speaker 1: don't know, you know, I mean everyone's just trying to
Speaker 1: get through it, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3: It's one comfortable stuff.
Speaker 4: Yeah, No, I mean like I would have needed the
Speaker 4: set cleared. I'm like could you get everybody out of here?
Speaker 4: Because uh, and then the mirror. I was like, I
Speaker 4: was looking because he was facing a mirror.
Speaker 3: Yes.
Speaker 4: I wonder if they messed up. I wonder if they
Speaker 4: accidentally got a little root in the in the scene
Speaker 4: or whatever. But they didn't. They were good about it.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I don't know why he was facing that mirror when
Speaker 1: you think about it, like, that's kind of odd.
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh. Yeah, right, he's looking at himself.
Speaker 3: Ew coll A slash Tray has some issues. I didn't
Speaker 3: even think about that.
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, it was you know, we were always
Speaker 1: just right on that line of like, yes, these things
Speaker 1: are real and we want to show them, but also
Speaker 1: they need to be funny and like sometimes it would
Speaker 1: just get like crazy. But that's where I love about
Speaker 1: your part, is that you were this kind of outlier,
Speaker 1: right that she stumbles into your world. Yeah, and then
Speaker 1: she just kind of has like a frolic in your world.
Speaker 1: And then in the end she can't make it work
Speaker 1: because you're living with your mom, which is kind of adorable.
Speaker 3: And I threw her under the bus totally exactly.
Speaker 1: She has to ten that the pot was hers, which
Speaker 1: is said, but so cute.
Speaker 3: It was just incredibly charming.
Speaker 4: That's the line that most people when I would get recognized,
Speaker 4: that's the line they always say.
Speaker 2: And I'm taking it with me when I go. I
Speaker 2: have heard that so many times.
Speaker 3: That's a good one. That's a good one. I like that.
Speaker 3: I like that very much.
Speaker 4: Or they would do the thing like this, like they're
Speaker 4: throwing the chicken wings and you put your arms up
Speaker 4: and try to deflect the wings.
Speaker 2: They would do that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so that's so cute, so cute. I'm so glad
Speaker 1: you had a good experience.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Oh, when I met Ferris, I met her husband.
Speaker 3: Oh you met Matthew.
Speaker 2: Yeah, a weird way. So I say Ferris because that's
Speaker 2: what I was saying.
Speaker 4: No, because we get done with the bedroom scene and
Speaker 4: you can't see because lights are on stuff, and I'm
Speaker 4: focused on what I'm doing. And then so I get
Speaker 4: off the bed and the first person that comes up
Speaker 4: to me to extend the hands, he says, great scene.
Speaker 2: I look up and it was him. It was Matthew Roderick. Wow.
Speaker 2: Her husband is the first one to tell me. He
Speaker 2: just watched me roll around in the sack with this. Again.
Speaker 2: I'm new to all this this is normal for you guys.
Speaker 4: You know, I just roll around and to pretend Hey
Speaker 4: with his wife and he's telling me great scene, and
Speaker 4: then my head of like, my.
Speaker 3: God, oh my gosh, yeah, that's just funny.
Speaker 2: Stars.
Speaker 1: Can I tell you a little funny Matthews story. Matthew
Speaker 1: does a lot of Broadway and he's great at it,
Speaker 1: and he did a very serious play once. It was
Speaker 1: not a musical, and I went to see it on
Speaker 1: the weekend and you know, we were in production and
Speaker 1: I wanted to support Matthew, so I went to see it.
Speaker 1: And in the middle of a scene of this very
Speaker 1: serious play, these fans who were in the balcony of
Speaker 1: the Broadway theater had brought a huge banner that said
Speaker 1: Ferris on it and they unfurled it on all.
Speaker 3: The middle of this scene.
Speaker 1: Was like, oh, for matthe like that's prob, you know,
Speaker 1: and you just have to ignore it and keep going.
Speaker 1: And you know, those fans love him, right, but like
Speaker 1: not really appropriate.
Speaker 4: No, I mean, he's much more than that. He's Matthew
Speaker 4: Brodrick and now he's doing this and like, you know,
Speaker 4: but that's how much.
Speaker 2: People love that character.
Speaker 4: And you get I don't know, do you get mad
Speaker 4: when you're associated so much with one character?
Speaker 3: It's hard to know.
Speaker 1: I think you go through every feeling, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying Like, I think you go through every feeling
Speaker 1: over time. And the nice thing that I that I
Speaker 1: just heard from Sarah he just did a movie with
Speaker 1: Ellen Ruck who plays his.
Speaker 3: Best friend and Farish Fueler.
Speaker 1: Oh, so they've worked together again, and I can't wait
Speaker 1: to see it. I mean, sometimes I feel like you
Speaker 1: circle back, you know what I'm saying, Like, maybe for
Speaker 1: a while you're like, I don't want to be associated
Speaker 1: with that anymore. It's too much, and then after a
Speaker 1: while you're like, no, No, that was incredible and I
Speaker 1: love this person.
Speaker 3: I want to work with them again.
Speaker 2: I think that's exactly it, right.
Speaker 1: Yeah, So I love them both, and obviously for me,
Speaker 1: that was a huge movie. So I totally understand and
Speaker 1: I'm glad. I mean, it's very rare that Matthew came
Speaker 1: to the set. That's interesting. That's an interesting story.
Speaker 2: Well he's like, who's this? Who's this?
Speaker 3: I think, and I think it might have been. I
Speaker 3: think it could have been.
Speaker 1: But that that just goes to show that you were
Speaker 1: fantastic thank you, thank you for your time.
Speaker 3: Game so much. I just love to hear from the guys.
Speaker 3: Thank you, thank you, thank you.
Speaker 2: Thanks for the invite. This was so much sure yay
Speaker 2: yay for a long time. I'm so glad.
Speaker 3: Thank you for joining us.
Speaker 2: You're welcome.