WEBVTT - One on One: John Kapelos 0:00:00.720 --> 0:00:03.080 I Am all In. 0:00:08.200 --> 0:00:19.000 Let's Kiss You, I Am all In with Scott Patterson, 0:00:19.239 --> 0:00:21.239 an iHeartRadio podcast, Hey. 0:00:21.120 --> 0:00:24.919 Everybody, Scott Patterson, I Am all In Podcast one eleven productions, 0:00:24.960 --> 0:00:31.480 iHeart Radio, iHeart Podcast, iHeartMedia. One on one interview with 0:00:32.400 --> 0:00:37.120 John A. Kippellis. John played the role of orientation leader 0:00:37.120 --> 0:00:39.840 for one episode in two thousand and five in Fight 0:00:39.920 --> 0:00:44.239 Face Season six, episode two. As the orientation Leader, his 0:00:44.360 --> 0:00:47.720 bio is quite extensive. He's best known for his portrayals 0:00:47.720 --> 0:00:51.159 of Janitor Carl Red in The Breakfast Club and Detective 0:00:51.200 --> 0:00:55.600 Donald Shank in Forever Night. And alumnus of Second City, Chicago. 0:00:55.720 --> 0:00:59.880 John theatrical work spans eight years from Second City's touring 0:00:59.880 --> 0:01:04.880 Company seventy eight to eighty two to six reviews as 0:01:04.880 --> 0:01:07.280 a member of the famed Resident Company eighty two to 0:01:07.319 --> 0:01:10.720 eighty six, and finally Second Citi's critically claimed returned to 0:01:10.880 --> 0:01:15.440 Off Broadway in Orwell That Ends Well in the former 0:01:15.520 --> 0:01:18.640 Village Gate in New York City. His appearances in three 0:01:19.319 --> 0:01:22.479 John Hughes film Sixteen Candles, Breakfast Club, and Weird Science 0:01:22.560 --> 0:01:26.040 earned him fame in the eighties as a character actor. 0:01:26.400 --> 0:01:29.320 He's at over two hundred film and TV appearances and 0:01:29.400 --> 0:01:31.680 worked on television shows such as Miami Vice as a 0:01:31.720 --> 0:01:36.320 corup public Defender, Desperate Housewife, Queer's Folk, The X File, Seinfeld, 0:01:36.319 --> 0:01:38.959 Home Improvement, Dead Like Me, e R, Boston Legal. The 0:01:39.000 --> 0:01:42.400 list of the films he appears includes of Shape of Water, Legally, 0:01:42.400 --> 0:01:46.600 Blonde rocksand Nothing in Common, The Boost, Internal Affairs. I 0:01:46.720 --> 0:01:50.960 give you, John Cappellis, how are you? Nice to meet you? 0:01:51.440 --> 0:01:55.000 Nice to meet you too, Thanks for coming on. I'm 0:01:55.120 --> 0:02:00.639 very very excited because you work your first your first 0:02:00.680 --> 0:02:04.480 gigs was maybe your first gig was working with Michael Mann. 0:02:06.480 --> 0:02:09.519 Yeah, way back when. It was for a brief moment. 0:02:10.000 --> 0:02:13.600 In Thief, one of my He's one of my favorite directors. 0:02:13.600 --> 0:02:14.880 It's one of my favorite movies. 0:02:15.000 --> 0:02:19.079 I've got a wonderful movie coming out now right and 0:02:19.919 --> 0:02:22.959 which I guess I'm going to go to the screening soon. 0:02:23.000 --> 0:02:24.800 Have you seen it? Have you seen the new film? 0:02:24.919 --> 0:02:26.840 No is? What is Oh Ferrari? No? 0:02:26.919 --> 0:02:29.440 I haven't seen it. I have not seen it, but 0:02:29.520 --> 0:02:31.440 I know there's going to be a heat too. It's 0:02:31.480 --> 0:02:37.120 like a prequel, so all very exciting stuff. 0:02:37.120 --> 0:02:40.760 But listen, let's he's a pretty dynamic guy, and obviously 0:02:40.840 --> 0:02:42.760 you know, with Miami Vice and a lot of stuff. 0:02:43.000 --> 0:02:46.240 I mean, I'm glad to see him doing something, you know, 0:02:46.240 --> 0:02:49.480 in twenty twenty three. Right, he's kind of I guess, 0:02:49.520 --> 0:02:51.799 part of the older guard now right. 0:02:51.760 --> 0:02:56.760 Right, right, Yeah, he's but he's still you know, intense 0:02:57.080 --> 0:02:58.520 and demanding and. 0:03:00.120 --> 0:03:02.799 Nacious. He's a he's a he's a I think he's 0:03:02.800 --> 0:03:06.440 a a legendary filmmaker. I think he's you know, I 0:03:06.440 --> 0:03:09.480 think he's pretty darn good. You know, for sure, for 0:03:09.520 --> 0:03:14.160 sure that he doesn't need my affirmation. But you know, I, 0:03:15.000 --> 0:03:17.320 you know, I glanced off him. I you know, I 0:03:17.360 --> 0:03:22.040 honestly don't know whether he'd remember me, but I certainly 0:03:22.080 --> 0:03:24.919 remember him. You know, these guys work with a lot 0:03:25.040 --> 0:03:30.639 of people, right, sure, sure, but not to say I mean, 0:03:32.160 --> 0:03:36.760 my my experience on Thief was not that it was 0:03:36.800 --> 0:03:39.440 pre memorable in that it was a beginning thing for me. 0:03:39.480 --> 0:03:41.360 I didn't do really much. I'm sort of barely in 0:03:41.360 --> 0:03:46.440 the film. But my my real experience, not necessarily with him, 0:03:47.320 --> 0:03:53.400 although with his his company was Miami Vice per season, right, right, 0:03:53.800 --> 0:03:57.440 I did. I did an episode in Miami of course. 0:03:58.120 --> 0:04:01.960 Yeah, exciting series. It really took over television. It was 0:04:02.040 --> 0:04:04.720 kind of the series on TV when don't we? 0:04:04.800 --> 0:04:08.440 Yeah, you know, and it was that you know, MTV 0:04:08.600 --> 0:04:12.400 cops sort of right, you know, slash thing. Right. 0:04:14.120 --> 0:04:18.599 So when we watched fight Face and saw you playing 0:04:18.640 --> 0:04:22.479 the orientation leader, we we couldn't wait to have you on. 0:04:23.240 --> 0:04:23.640 Uh. 0:04:23.800 --> 0:04:28.559 Were you aware of the series before you were cast 0:04:28.600 --> 0:04:29.200 in that role? 0:04:29.640 --> 0:04:36.200 Oh? Yeah, oh you were of Gilmore Girls, yes? Oh yeah, Oh. 0:04:36.560 --> 0:04:39.440 I think I think the show was, you know, especially 0:04:39.520 --> 0:04:43.320 the first season was such a splash, right, and you know, 0:04:43.440 --> 0:04:46.800 I also really loved, you know, the performances in it. 0:04:46.880 --> 0:04:50.840 I mean, for me, there was a yeah, I mean 0:04:50.920 --> 0:04:54.799 I was aware of it as that. But you know, nowadays, honestly, 0:04:54.880 --> 0:04:57.960 with Netflix and all a lot of the ubiquity of stuff, 0:04:57.960 --> 0:05:01.039 I'm not aware of everything. So it's it's not surprising 0:05:01.120 --> 0:05:02.640 to not be something right. 0:05:02.839 --> 0:05:05.760 Right, right, right, for sure. But so you were aware 0:05:05.800 --> 0:05:10.200 of it, and I guess they contacted you the straight 0:05:10.240 --> 0:05:15.120 offer and it was did you know did they tell 0:05:15.160 --> 0:05:18.040 you that it was an homage to the breakfast club 0:05:18.120 --> 0:05:21.400 character at all or anything that you would have ever done. 0:05:21.880 --> 0:05:25.880 No, there was a hint of that, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, 0:05:25.920 --> 0:05:30.640 I mean they were I think that it was there 0:05:30.680 --> 0:05:35.080 in the writing, so I think that, you know, the 0:05:35.120 --> 0:05:36.839 subtlety of that was not lost on me. 0:05:37.640 --> 0:05:40.560 Right, So you got to work with Alexus. I think 0:05:41.600 --> 0:05:45.000 that's the only Gilmour actor you got to work with. 0:05:45.120 --> 0:05:45.280 Right. 0:05:45.640 --> 0:05:47.560 You were in two scenes with Alexis tell us her 0:05:47.960 --> 0:05:48.440 and it. 0:05:48.320 --> 0:05:51.080 Was it was kind of you know, obviously not an 0:05:51.080 --> 0:05:55.719 intimate setting, right, Yeah, it was fun. I mean we 0:05:55.760 --> 0:05:58.880 shot it, I believe over Warner Brothers, right, right, you 0:05:59.000 --> 0:06:03.039 tell me because all the not that they all become 0:06:03.120 --> 0:06:06.520 the same room, but I remember it being Warner Brothers, 0:06:07.200 --> 0:06:10.000 and yeah, I mean it was. It was a pretty 0:06:10.080 --> 0:06:11.800 quick in and out for me. I wasn't you know, 0:06:11.839 --> 0:06:15.480 a huge you know, I think I was only in 0:06:15.480 --> 0:06:20.279 for a day plus. But they were really nice, and 0:06:20.320 --> 0:06:23.800 you know, of course, you know the producers, you know, 0:06:23.839 --> 0:06:26.800 they're just sitting there watching and being really attentive and 0:06:27.640 --> 0:06:30.360 right giving their notes when they could. 0:06:30.680 --> 0:06:32.600 How'd you get started in your acting career. 0:06:33.880 --> 0:06:35.760 I did a play in high school. I did Guys 0:06:35.800 --> 0:06:38.800 and Dolls when I was in grade ten as we 0:06:38.839 --> 0:06:41.440 say in Canada, or tenth grade as basically in the 0:06:41.520 --> 0:06:48.560 United States. I grew up in London, Ontario, and yeah, 0:06:48.680 --> 0:06:51.080 and then you know it's I got bitten by the 0:06:51.120 --> 0:06:55.760 proverbial theater bug. And it's really true. I mean, when 0:06:55.800 --> 0:06:58.680 you when it happens to you, you sort of succumb 0:07:01.360 --> 0:07:03.920 And I sort of went for a few years thinking 0:07:03.960 --> 0:07:05.320 I was going to be something else. I went to 0:07:05.440 --> 0:07:07.880 university and college and thought I was going to be 0:07:07.880 --> 0:07:10.640 an English professor. And then at one point I sort 0:07:10.640 --> 0:07:13.120 of came out of the closet my friends and family 0:07:13.160 --> 0:07:17.000 I wanted to be an actor, and a lot of 0:07:17.000 --> 0:07:20.320 people I remember when I first told my friends, I 0:07:20.360 --> 0:07:23.640 was around seventeen or then. They all I was we 0:07:23.640 --> 0:07:25.360 were playing baseball. I said, you know, I think I 0:07:25.360 --> 0:07:28.720 want to be an actor, and they all, I'll never 0:07:28.760 --> 0:07:31.800 forget this. Four or five of them fell on the 0:07:31.840 --> 0:07:36.360 green grass and laughed on their backs. So, you know, 0:07:38.320 --> 0:07:41.160 to all the kids and people missing out there, nobody 0:07:41.160 --> 0:07:43.600 ever wants you to do this thing. You know, it's 0:07:43.640 --> 0:07:47.760 your own singular thing, you know, and everybody will always 0:07:47.840 --> 0:07:50.960 laugh at you. And indeed, you know, it was kind 0:07:50.960 --> 0:07:55.440 of laughable at the beginning, right, But you know, everybody, 0:07:56.480 --> 0:07:59.520 you know, unless you're really connected in show business, when 0:07:59.520 --> 0:08:01.720 you say you want to do something, you know, the 0:08:01.880 --> 0:08:03.920 kid at the age of whatever seven rate says I 0:08:03.960 --> 0:08:06.920 want to be an actor. Well, you know, all their 0:08:06.920 --> 0:08:09.040 friends and family throw up their hands and go, well, 0:08:09.080 --> 0:08:11.240 you know, what are we going to do? 0:08:11.720 --> 0:08:15.280 Very true, Very true. It is a common experience. 0:08:15.360 --> 0:08:20.119 But but you know, the Back to the Gilmore Girls, 0:08:20.160 --> 0:08:24.480 I mean, the the the there was a kineticism on 0:08:24.520 --> 0:08:25.760 the set which I really liked. 0:08:26.280 --> 0:08:28.840 And there are very very few times when you're working 0:08:28.840 --> 0:08:31.320 in a film or TV show when when you really 0:08:31.320 --> 0:08:34.360 get that. And I sort of want to mention that, 0:08:34.480 --> 0:08:37.679 because there's an energy when you work on shows that 0:08:37.720 --> 0:08:42.600 are particularly successful and also really really well written in 0:08:42.640 --> 0:08:46.200 people that you know, I don't know how to say it. 0:08:46.200 --> 0:08:48.000 It's kind of like, well, I do know how to say. 0:08:48.000 --> 0:08:51.160 It's kind of like being being in the center of 0:08:51.200 --> 0:08:53.320 a very very quiet room where you know that there 0:08:53.360 --> 0:08:57.240 are a lot of people paying attention, and that's basically 0:08:57.240 --> 0:08:59.280 a film set, right right, right. 0:09:01.160 --> 0:09:03.560 Interesting, that's an interesting observation. 0:09:04.080 --> 0:09:08.520 My you know again, my memory of it was that 0:09:10.400 --> 0:09:13.920 was that I'm blanking on her name, the producer of her. 0:09:16.080 --> 0:09:20.040 Amy Amy, because she's a good friend of a friend 0:09:20.040 --> 0:09:23.120 of mine and I always want to call her by 0:09:23.120 --> 0:09:24.800 my friend's wife's name, which. 0:09:24.600 --> 0:09:30.360 Is a strange sort of fluidian thing. But Amy Amy 0:09:30.600 --> 0:09:33.280 is you know one of those people that doesn't let 0:09:33.320 --> 0:09:36.640 a fly go by her eye without you know, noticing 0:09:37.440 --> 0:09:39.880 what color jacket it has. You know, she's very, very 0:09:39.880 --> 0:09:45.680 attentive to detail. And the thing you realize around being 0:09:45.760 --> 0:09:49.600 really about being around really creative people is they have 0:09:49.760 --> 0:09:52.320 a remarkable eye for detail. It's almost like being with 0:09:52.400 --> 0:09:55.480 a to take the fly analogy to turn it around, 0:09:55.520 --> 0:09:58.400 it's like being with an insect that has this amazing 0:09:58.440 --> 0:09:59.720 ability to see everything. 0:10:00.360 --> 0:10:00.760 Mm hmm. 0:10:02.559 --> 0:10:09.600 So there, you know, nothing goes unnoticed. Sorry, go ahead, 0:10:09.679 --> 0:10:12.360 and in a similar vibe, let's say to working my 0:10:12.440 --> 0:10:15.440 experience with working with John Hughes or something, or even 0:10:15.480 --> 0:10:17.600 Guermo del Toro. I mean, when you're working with people 0:10:17.640 --> 0:10:19.000 that are sort of at the top of the game, 0:10:20.720 --> 0:10:22.440 pretty offing good, right. 0:10:31.800 --> 0:10:37.240 So you have so many TV and film credits, it's 0:10:37.040 --> 0:10:41.760 it took a while to get through the entire list. 0:10:42.240 --> 0:10:48.839 Me too, just reading them. 0:10:47.440 --> 0:10:51.160 Is the breakfast club uh more often the role you 0:10:51.200 --> 0:10:52.160 get recognized for. 0:10:53.280 --> 0:10:56.959 You know, it's funny, it depends on the and I'm 0:10:57.000 --> 0:10:59.800 not being facetious, but it depends on how I look, 0:10:59.880 --> 0:11:02.280 or the day of the week, whatever, how I look 0:11:02.320 --> 0:11:05.160 more than anything. I mean sometimes if I've been if 0:11:05.280 --> 0:11:09.360 my hair is longer, if I'm maybe heavier, you know, 0:11:09.520 --> 0:11:14.520 putting on a roll for Raging Bull or something. People 0:11:14.559 --> 0:11:18.720 recognize me from Seinfeld too, the sniffing to either Seinfeld 0:11:19.000 --> 0:11:25.040 or the Breakfast Club or some John Hughes variant, which 0:11:25.080 --> 0:11:28.000 I'm lucky, you know, I'm I'm happy to be recognized. 0:11:28.640 --> 0:11:31.080 There are actors I have met and ones that I 0:11:31.080 --> 0:11:36.079 have known totally escapes an me. What's going on in 0:11:36.160 --> 0:11:38.839 their heads when they get recognized. They get angry. It's like, really, 0:11:41.559 --> 0:11:44.959 my dad, I say that quite often. My dad had 0:11:44.960 --> 0:11:49.680 a small clothing store. And whenever I'm recognized, which is 0:11:50.200 --> 0:11:54.760 fairly frequently or infrequently whatever, you know, not to but 0:11:54.840 --> 0:11:58.880 you know, it happens. I they're immediately they're in my store, right, 0:11:58.920 --> 0:12:01.040 you know, they're all of a sudden, you're a customer 0:12:01.040 --> 0:12:03.679 in my clothing store. And like, you know, I have 0:12:03.800 --> 0:12:05.920 no reason not to be nice to people that all 0:12:05.920 --> 0:12:07.720 of a sudden, you know, I saw you in something. 0:12:07.720 --> 0:12:10.880 It's like that. But again, there are other performers that 0:12:10.920 --> 0:12:13.240 I behave otherwise and it's a total head scratch to 0:12:13.240 --> 0:12:14.920 me why they do that. But that is not my 0:12:16.240 --> 0:12:18.959 m O. That's not how I'm wired. But it's most 0:12:19.000 --> 0:12:22.040 often I think Breakfast Club or I don't know. I mean, 0:12:22.080 --> 0:12:23.680 you know, there are lots of people that have never 0:12:23.679 --> 0:12:27.640 seen the movie. You know, you meet there are fourteen, 0:12:27.720 --> 0:12:30.160 fifteen year olds, ten year olds, you know, twenty five 0:12:30.240 --> 0:12:32.440 year olds, thirty year olds that you know, that's an 0:12:32.440 --> 0:12:33.280 old movie to them. 0:12:33.360 --> 0:12:35.920 Man, right, what do you remember about filming that movie? 0:12:35.920 --> 0:12:37.120 And I was over forty years ago, what do you 0:12:37.160 --> 0:12:37.839 remember filming that? 0:12:38.040 --> 0:12:40.240 I remember a lot about that film because it was 0:12:40.280 --> 0:12:42.280 a seminal experience and it was, you know, one of 0:12:42.320 --> 0:12:46.160 the very first I had just done. I done miamif 0:12:46.160 --> 0:12:47.520 ice don't think I had even done. 0:12:47.320 --> 0:12:48.320 Myne No, I don't think. 0:12:48.360 --> 0:12:48.440 So. 0:12:49.880 --> 0:12:53.080 You did Thief, and I think Breakfast Club right after that. 0:12:53.280 --> 0:12:58.160 Yeah, and I had done a small, unremarkable turn in 0:12:58.240 --> 0:13:01.480 Tutsie and right, well that's a whole different story, right, 0:13:02.720 --> 0:13:05.120 that was not in the credits, and I protested that 0:13:05.160 --> 0:13:13.960 beginning you they Dustin and Billy Dot it was. I 0:13:14.000 --> 0:13:19.200 think Breakfast Club was was was rememorable because I was 0:13:19.240 --> 0:13:21.839 replacing an actor and they had been in there for 0:13:21.880 --> 0:13:24.040 a long time, and I had done a film before 0:13:24.080 --> 0:13:27.280 that with John sixteen Candles, and he had told me 0:13:27.360 --> 0:13:29.600 before that, oh, you're going to do the Breakfast Club. 0:13:29.679 --> 0:13:31.640 I mean, I got this part in this movie. And 0:13:31.679 --> 0:13:34.400 then I saw in the trade papers that they were 0:13:34.400 --> 0:13:36.080 doing the movie and I went, oh, well, I guess 0:13:36.080 --> 0:13:39.040 that ship has sailed. And then literally the next day 0:13:39.040 --> 0:13:40.959 after I saw it in the papers, they I got 0:13:41.000 --> 0:13:43.360 a call up saying that they've changed their mind with 0:13:43.400 --> 0:13:46.640 regards to Rick Moranis, who was playing the part, and 0:13:47.040 --> 0:13:49.960 was that right? Yeah, he had been cast and they 0:13:50.000 --> 0:13:53.200 shot for several days and Rick wanted to play the 0:13:53.280 --> 0:13:58.720 character as a Russian guy with thick accent and lots 0:13:58.760 --> 0:14:02.200 of gold teeth and big lot of keys between his legs, 0:14:02.480 --> 0:14:06.520 and John said, well, you know, actually the character was, 0:14:06.640 --> 0:14:08.520 you know, went to the school, and that's not the 0:14:08.520 --> 0:14:11.240 way we see it. So they really, you know, had 0:14:11.240 --> 0:14:14.760 a party of the waves, and that was fortuitous for me. 0:14:15.000 --> 0:14:19.600 And I've never met nor talked to Rick Moranis about this, 0:14:19.720 --> 0:14:25.520 so you know, he's had a wonderful career and he's 0:14:25.560 --> 0:14:28.480 a great actor. So I was happy to pick up 0:14:28.480 --> 0:14:31.840 the crumbs. And I had been in New York working 0:14:32.080 --> 0:14:34.360 at the Village Gate and was second City at the time, 0:14:34.920 --> 0:14:41.200 So flew back into Chicago and shot for whatever eight days, 0:14:41.240 --> 0:14:43.960 five days, eight days and the Vectors Club, and it 0:14:44.000 --> 0:14:48.600 was a little bit like showing up. Yeah, you know, 0:14:48.760 --> 0:14:51.760 coming into a classroom in the middle of a semester 0:14:51.960 --> 0:14:55.200 and he knows one another. It's like I'm the new kid. 0:14:55.520 --> 0:14:57.160 But a lot of my I mean a lot of 0:14:57.160 --> 0:15:00.400 my career is like that. You know, I show up 0:15:00.400 --> 0:15:02.440 on a TV show and then you know, I did 0:15:02.560 --> 0:15:05.000 Justified and they've shot five seasons and you know, I'm 0:15:05.040 --> 0:15:07.440 coming on as a guest so's you're always kind of 0:15:07.440 --> 0:15:09.240 an interloper when you're a guest actor. 0:15:09.720 --> 0:15:10.160 Mm hmm. 0:15:11.200 --> 0:15:13.360 Kind of get used to that. And you know, similar 0:15:13.400 --> 0:15:16.560 with Gilmore Girls. You know, you come in and as 0:15:16.800 --> 0:15:19.040 I only get to work with one of the main characters, 0:15:19.080 --> 0:15:23.480 and right, you know, you know, and I've worked on 0:15:23.600 --> 0:15:25.600 when I did suits, you know I did, and I've 0:15:25.640 --> 0:15:29.800 done a lot of That's kind of been my I want, 0:15:29.840 --> 0:15:32.320 I hate to say my career because I've done other stuff, 0:15:32.360 --> 0:15:34.840 but it's been a lot of my television career has 0:15:34.880 --> 0:15:36.440 been guest appearances on a lot of. 0:15:37.720 --> 0:15:40.000 Yeah, I saw you have a lot of one episode 0:15:40.040 --> 0:15:42.800 you got a forty eight episode there on what was 0:15:42.800 --> 0:15:48.960 that You were on the series for a while. Oh, 0:15:49.000 --> 0:15:50.960 you were play the detective. 0:15:52.280 --> 0:15:53.400 Right right right? 0:15:53.920 --> 0:15:54.880 Forty eight episodes. 0:15:54.920 --> 0:15:58.960 Yeah, yeah, yeah, that was well, you know, that was 0:15:59.000 --> 0:16:02.480 the sort of thing you know forever Night. I credit 0:16:03.400 --> 0:16:05.320 you know a lot of things. It was really really 0:16:05.360 --> 0:16:07.720 a good experience in a lot of ways. And also 0:16:07.760 --> 0:16:10.680 I credit with it getting comfortable in front of a camera, 0:16:12.640 --> 0:16:14.640 you know, hitherto I mean when you talk about Thief 0:16:14.720 --> 0:16:18.560 and when I think about TOUTSI and those early experiences, 0:16:18.920 --> 0:16:23.680 even Miami Vice, when I worked on that, I didn't 0:16:23.840 --> 0:16:26.960 really really wasn't too savvy with what the camera was. 0:16:26.960 --> 0:16:30.160 So if the camera was over my shoulder and it's 0:16:30.320 --> 0:16:32.360 shooting the person in front of me, you know where 0:16:32.400 --> 0:16:35.840 the computer is or where you are. If I tilt 0:16:35.880 --> 0:16:38.080 my head a little bit, then I'm blocking. So you 0:16:38.160 --> 0:16:41.080 have to be aware of the lens they've got and 0:16:41.120 --> 0:16:44.360 what they're shooting out tight they are and all that stuff. 0:16:44.360 --> 0:16:46.760 And on Miami Vice, I had a little experience where 0:16:46.840 --> 0:16:49.400 Don Johnson got a little bit ticked off at me 0:16:49.520 --> 0:16:51.560 because he thought I was messing with this close up 0:16:51.600 --> 0:16:54.920 when in fact I had no idea what the lens was. 0:16:55.560 --> 0:17:01.120 Did you ever think that those movies that John Hughes 0:17:01.160 --> 0:17:03.880 films would blow up the way they have. 0:17:05.119 --> 0:17:08.359 You know, it's funny. I mean to answer this in 0:17:08.400 --> 0:17:11.480 the long lens. When my dad, when I first told 0:17:11.480 --> 0:17:14.440 my dad I was going to be an actor, my 0:17:14.560 --> 0:17:17.000 dad was kind of you know, he was a good 0:17:17.040 --> 0:17:20.399 guy who was intelligent, and he had he had a 0:17:20.440 --> 0:17:22.880 bit of a futuristic view. He said, you know, John, 0:17:23.359 --> 0:17:25.360 not a bad choice because there's going to be more 0:17:25.440 --> 0:17:29.280 room for there's going to be more room for entertainment 0:17:29.320 --> 0:17:35.080 in the future, leisure time, I thought, you know, and 0:17:35.160 --> 0:17:38.720 he was right. So my hope in the early eighties, 0:17:39.040 --> 0:17:41.800 you know, cable was burgeoning, and my thought when I 0:17:41.840 --> 0:17:43.600 did the movie is like, god, I hope they show 0:17:43.640 --> 0:17:46.479 this on cable. You know. That was my immediate Like 0:17:46.520 --> 0:17:48.600 they hope that you know, there's this new thing called cable. 0:17:48.600 --> 0:17:50.520 It was nineteen eighty three, Like, I just hope that 0:17:50.640 --> 0:17:53.280 shit they show this on you know, cable TV, and 0:17:53.359 --> 0:17:57.120 maybe you know, they'll show the movie there as well 0:17:57.160 --> 0:18:01.439 as in the movie themes. But to answer your question, 0:18:02.119 --> 0:18:04.919 whenever anybody, you know, and I was twenty seven when 0:18:04.960 --> 0:18:08.119 I did The Breakfast Club twenty whatever, you know, you 0:18:08.160 --> 0:18:10.400 always think, God, I hope that this is going to be, 0:18:10.520 --> 0:18:14.159 you know, a member forever. And as Woody Allen I 0:18:14.200 --> 0:18:17.080 read recently said, you know, nothing's going to be remembered forever. 0:18:17.560 --> 0:18:23.680 You know. That's so as much as I thought this 0:18:23.760 --> 0:18:27.800 is going to do well after sixteen Candles with John Hughes, 0:18:27.840 --> 0:18:32.160 I thought, yeah, you know, this guy's got some juice 0:18:32.200 --> 0:18:35.800 in this biss you know, and there was a vibe 0:18:35.840 --> 0:18:39.359 around him that, you know, things were happening, so thought, 0:18:40.359 --> 0:18:44.639 but I had no real idea my experience when I 0:18:44.720 --> 0:18:46.840 first saw the movie, The Breakfast Club was in a 0:18:46.880 --> 0:18:51.000 suburban theater in Chicago with an audience. There's a beautiful theater, 0:18:51.040 --> 0:18:55.080 a huge theater filled with teenagers, and I sat in 0:18:55.119 --> 0:18:59.359 the middle of that and I went, Holy shit, is 0:18:59.760 --> 0:19:02.919 this is It was like being in the middle of 0:19:02.960 --> 0:19:06.919 a wave, right, It's sort of like a Holy Moly. 0:19:07.880 --> 0:19:11.679 And that's when I thought, Wow, this movie's got some power. 0:19:14.000 --> 0:19:17.640 Little did I know, and you know, the movie's got 0:19:17.720 --> 0:19:20.119 issues in terms of, you know, there are some things 0:19:20.160 --> 0:19:23.520 with it that that are not perfect, but you know, 0:19:24.880 --> 0:19:28.919 teenage years are not perfect, and slutshaming and all that 0:19:28.960 --> 0:19:31.760 stuff will continue to go on regardless of people thinking 0:19:31.760 --> 0:19:37.560 it's incorrect, which it is. But you know, behavior will 0:19:37.560 --> 0:19:42.200 not stop. Bad behavior will not stop, or marginal behavior. 0:19:42.880 --> 0:19:45.879 So you know what happens with me with the movie 0:19:47.320 --> 0:19:49.520 is that it happened to me when you know a 0:19:49.520 --> 0:19:51.240 lot of my friends had kids they were younger. Now 0:19:51.280 --> 0:19:55.280 it's happening to me with my friends grandkids. Is you know, 0:19:55.400 --> 0:19:58.399 some kid will be born and it'll blubber till the 0:19:58.400 --> 0:20:00.280 age of three or four, and then I'll I'll know 0:20:00.280 --> 0:20:01.879 it till the age of nine or ten, and all 0:20:01.920 --> 0:20:03.640 of a sudden, my friend will pull me said, Hey, 0:20:04.840 --> 0:20:07.880 my son Jeff just turned thirteen and saw The Breakfast 0:20:07.880 --> 0:20:10.399 Club and now wants to speak to you, like, all 0:20:10.440 --> 0:20:12.000 of a sudden, I haven't been on the map for 0:20:12.040 --> 0:20:14.760 fourteen years. With my friends kids and then all of 0:20:14.800 --> 0:20:17.200 a sudden, you know, they go, I just saw this movie, 0:20:17.200 --> 0:20:21.080 you know, John, you know, and that's when the movie 0:20:21.200 --> 0:20:24.040 sort of all of a sudden, I go, wow, you know, 0:20:24.119 --> 0:20:27.359 it's kind of a coming at age thing. And I 0:20:27.400 --> 0:20:29.680 know this is a long answer for you, but you know, 0:20:29.760 --> 0:20:32.240 when I grew up in the sixties, the movies for 0:20:32.320 --> 0:20:34.840 teenagers were shit for the most part. I mean, there 0:20:34.880 --> 0:20:37.119 was Disney stuff and all the stuff that was like, 0:20:37.240 --> 0:20:40.560 you know, supposed to speak to you, like generational stuff. 0:20:40.600 --> 0:20:43.760 There's this movie Wild in the Streets. It was they 0:20:43.840 --> 0:20:46.560 talked down. They were written by old guys in la 0:20:46.640 --> 0:20:50.600 that had no idea how to talk to teenagers. And 0:20:50.640 --> 0:20:56.200 that was John Hughes's appeal because John Hughes basically said, 0:20:56.400 --> 0:20:59.320 he one of my analogies. He was kind of like 0:20:59.480 --> 0:21:01.600 the hip Arlie Brown and that, you know, the adults 0:21:01.600 --> 0:21:06.399 were all and he was just talking to yeah, teenagers 0:21:08.280 --> 0:21:09.200 for better for worse. 0:21:10.720 --> 0:21:12.320 Interesting. What are you working on now? 0:21:14.240 --> 0:21:20.919 Boom boom? Interesting, I've managed to I'm working on the 0:21:20.920 --> 0:21:23.480 soap opera. I just finished a round, right. I saw 0:21:23.520 --> 0:21:26.520 that days of our lives have been playing this Greek 0:21:26.600 --> 0:21:30.880 character named Constantine. I came on, did one episode last year. 0:21:30.920 --> 0:21:36.159 Then John John Aniston sadly died and they decided to 0:21:36.200 --> 0:21:38.880 bring my character back and make him a real thing 0:21:39.880 --> 0:21:44.000 and an experience. And it's probably coming to an end soon. 0:21:46.320 --> 0:21:47.920 It's a lot of work and a lot of page 0:21:47.960 --> 0:21:49.040 a lot of pages per day. 0:21:50.040 --> 0:21:52.320 Well, I mean, I'm glad you're you know, you know 0:21:52.440 --> 0:21:57.720 it's I never condescended the work. It's a soap, right, 0:21:57.800 --> 0:22:01.480 so it's got it's its own meat him. But man, 0:22:01.480 --> 0:22:04.480 oh man, it has been challenging, and a lot of 0:22:04.520 --> 0:22:06.760 the actors on the show are quick to tell me. 0:22:06.800 --> 0:22:08.439 You know, there are a lot of actors that have 0:22:08.480 --> 0:22:10.320 come in here and just run kicking and screaming and 0:22:10.400 --> 0:22:14.240 can't do it. So I'm just happy that I can 0:22:14.240 --> 0:22:14.560 do it. 0:22:23.520 --> 0:22:26.000 All right, So we're going to do something called rapid fire. 0:22:26.000 --> 0:22:27.360 You ready, I'm here? 0:22:27.920 --> 0:22:30.480 Does it doesn't mean you have to answer these questions 0:22:30.560 --> 0:22:33.400 quickly that we just call it rapid fire. Don't ask 0:22:33.440 --> 0:22:39.879 me why you can tell your time? How do you 0:22:40.000 --> 0:22:40.800 like your coffee? 0:22:42.680 --> 0:22:45.159 It's a bit strong, but I kind of like it. 0:22:46.960 --> 0:22:50.040 Are you team Logan, Team Jess or team Dean? If 0:22:50.080 --> 0:22:53.680 you know what that means? 0:22:53.720 --> 0:22:54.679 Logan Paul. 0:22:56.800 --> 0:22:58.159 Logan on the show? 0:23:00.119 --> 0:23:02.760 Because I had kids that liked Logan Paul many years 0:23:02.800 --> 0:23:05.879 ago and I found it, I would say team Logan. 0:23:06.760 --> 0:23:10.639 Yeah. Uh, who's your favorite Gilmore Girls couple? Luke and 0:23:10.680 --> 0:23:14.800